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But what is the problem? Thoran doesn't have enough damage? Not able to use the ultimate skill?
Not enough damage, but i've seen people with way lower power clear it
With the same setup
Put the Dura eye on him, it can greatly increase his damage if he deals a critical attack. And take off his armor and helmet
If the opponent dodges, I recommend wearing the dura sword on him, because it increases the accuracy of the Thoran + and by itself it adds 15 accuracy points if I remember correctly
When I write armor, I mean the chest
Thank you this made the difference I didn't know about removing his hat and chest
why u merc kelthur
Powercapped or not enough accuracy so enemies keep dodging with e+ probably
I’m trying to figure out who to focus on. Currently stuck on 12-16. I read the guide about getting 5 fodder hero’s to L+ in order to max crystal, but wanted to check hère if I should just focus someone else instead. I was stuck on 11-40 for a while
Kinda hardstuck on this stage. I can get it down to just Grez and Flora with a comp but my team just gets wiped in ~10 seconds. Nothing on AFK helper worked either
mine lvl 1 and no room on crystal cause don't wanna waste diamonds for it
read beginner guide in #classic-questions
Any help with this stage imma have Arthur in like 3 days so ig I can wait a bit and I’ll have albedo 30
Brutus seems to be my only solid tank but I have to use him to counter athalia
Wait for bedo and arthur imo, dont stress this shit
Oh ok athalia was destroying me more than usual
Hey all. Tried to follow the guide, but found a lot of codes and got a lot of new heroes. Can someone give me an advice what should I do next? Should I reset wukong and upgrade daimon as much as I can? What other heroes should I upgrade and which comp to play?
Keep levelling wu Kong to 100
Put daimon on crystal if he is only at 2 copies
What about talena? Is she good?
Yh she’s good but put her in crystal since he will be level capped at 140
I still need to level up fodder like hogan/arden/mirael?
And when should I stop xd
Keep levelling fodder heroes until you can’t
They cap at 160
Then reset them and up useful heroes?
And what heroes better to use in battles rn?
No you can just fodder them to A tier heroes then resources get given
Daimon works well just put in crystal after wu Kong carry starts becoming worse
And with whom can I combine him?
Don’t ascend A tier heroes past e plus for now
Yeah I got it from the guide, I mean which team would be good to play with him for me
Post box
What do you mean
Heroes
Wu Kong lyca frontline can work and daimon mirael Arden can work backline
any advice?
Read beginner guide in #classic-questions
Thank you a lot :3
Yeah I'm kinda falling off mid chapter 10, who should I be investing in?
Read beginner guide in #classic-questions in pins
just remember that that formation won’t always work and it’s stage dependant so you’ll need to change it from time to time
It’s just pretty hard to understand which heroes synergies with other when you are newbie
I guess.
We need to analyze it a little more maybe. Other than ultimate IT's rather hard to get to know a hero
And therefore connect then with each other via some synergy
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If i send my box can someone put me together a general team?
yes
yeah i understand that i think everyone has gone through that. after a while when you start seeing what heroes do what you’ll start to be able to tell what goes with what, it’s all about time. so in the meantime always ask as many questions as you can
focus leveling up daimon, solid early game carry, and u already have legendary , so
Possible ?
@gentle gulch You’ll almost always want Daimon in the back line . And probably switch Ainz for Ferael (or another crowd control unit) imo
that legendary daimon at the bottom kinda hurts. also i agree with them
Leave brutus in #2 for sav, id place lyca in #1, then play around w/ the backline to see where daimon will live longest.
I know lol
U can reset that btw
Go to the rickety cart and reset the legendary daimon
"Revert heroes"
Help
lyca, brutus, daimon, eironn, flex
How do I kill that isabella
Anything I put on the bottom across grez and Isabella takes to long to kill grez before they target isabella
nara and burst
Rip I don’t think I have much burst but I’ll try Nara out
you have brutus/lyca, and a nara can pull isa
I tried this, brutus Luca Nara dies in a few seconds
they aren't meant to live, just decrease rng for your daimon
And daimon is struggling, he can just barely kill grez before everyone gets wiped
what order are you using
I tried that, shemira lasers her son to death
I’ll keep trying. Maybe just need good rng
tbh, i had the winning team for 1 stage but had to retry 60 times for rng kek
@long vapor then try lyca, brutus, nara, daimon, flex, give it a few tries
Alright. I’ll try that. And I feel u benca, lmao it took me 137 retries to clear a multistage once
@long vapor XD, wait till you hit that 10k+ mark
Tbh the stage I’m at on my main, I probably will have to
my main is struggling in off meta
any help here tho? nothing seems to work atm. maybe havent tried hard, but all lineups i try kinda shreds me
take out thoran for lyca and put brutus in front of thane
1 try is worse than the other one lol, thanks tho. i will try more in the morning
please
daimon-1, grezhul -2, rowan 3, eironn-4, brutus -5
ok i ll try it thanks
Hello, I'm new to the game and I just want to ask if there's any beginner's guide here or any wishlist recommendations, thank you for your response🙏
Do the 3 dimensionals that are always $99 ever go on sale?
they were half price previously when they were first introduced. and now since they are in lab store and chall store i doubt they will go on sale again, side note go to #classic-questions next for this type of question
Got to pins in #classic-questions channel
How do you get this to work? Thoran can't reflect back damage
And sometimes, he dies to Skreg before even using his ult
downloading for the first time rn. probably missed loads of freebies from past big events but I’m completely drawn to the art. any specific units to look out for? planning to be ftp but I can spend if I end up liking this game a lot. Can any unit be viable? I REALLY LOVE Solice’s design and I’d love to use her
First and foremost, read the pinned guides in #classic-questions . The best early/mid game carry is daimon. There are some others that are somewhat viable early if you don’t get daimon copies, but solise is not really one of those. If you’re okay going at a slower pace and just want to build who you think is fun then go for solise, but your progress will be much slower and you’ll have a harder time when asking for help/strategy
I checked the guide and it said Brutus was good to use but should I consider someone else for a tank?
Lost in 7-8
brutus unlocks his immunity at level 61 brutus be your best tank, all other tanks in the early are either carries or thrash
can someone who’s willing to take some time to help me please gimme advice? I’m on 21-60 and I can’t beat it. I die to quickly. My team right now is daimon, oden, skreg, Brutus and I switch between a bunch of other characters
Lyca Eironn Oden Flex Daimon. Maybe try Scarlet?
Flex?
Oh okay also @west walrus which artifacts do I put on who
Oden Eye, Daimon Call, Eironn Eye ig idk whatever you're running now,
Can run Ferael as flex, but not sure how good he is at just E
Lorsan also a good contender. As well as Anoki/Safiya, granted you have at least one copy of them and they're on the crystal
Im fact I'd replace your Arden Belinda Thoran to these 3 from your crystal
Okay
Help!
Stuck 12-34
https://streamable.com/3w1h7l
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I feel like you just need retry spam, like how many times do you usually retry before you ask here?
About every few hours
But when I know I can't beat it, I just ask here :x
I merely put an artifact on Oden and I did it, cool...
Which one?
Which one artifact?
I think you need to look up how to make a retry-spam macro, I can sometimes leave mine overnight and it'll be like 4 stages the next morning through sheer RNG
Damn rng hates you
I look at the Tales tab and usually it'll say somewhere along the lines of 100-200 tries, in some cases that one Estrilda stage took 310 and I recently had one that was 702 tries on Ch26
I'd say it's an alright progression speed, later on some people can be stuck for weeks on a single stage
Speaking of retry spam I just passed a stage, just from AFK'ing over my macro lol
How to do macro?
Any tips please
use rowan instead of scarlett
Kill him first or kill him last if you're overleveled, you won't kill Niru through multitasking
Help
Wtf is this nightmare, Saveas too op
If I'm lucky, PoP is not 1 shot
https://streamable.com/jcyfn1
Hey there, any tips for this?
is there a comp for Soren using Scarlet? ive tried a couple times but the team dies quite fast
Greetings, I haven't played in about a year and a half-ish and i'm wondering how I should progress. I'm currently on stage 27-52 and in my main lineup i use
Shemira - Lyca - Lucius - Tasi - Rosaline
I'm not sure if Shemira is still considered to fall off a clif at around stage 30 or not. So my question is, is there a better f2p comp i can make out of what i currently have (i have a swap scroll so i can transfer Shemira stuff to someone else) and what I should focus on for the future. Thanks in advance
She already fell off a cliff earlier than that, so she's a great candidate for a swap scroll use for sure. What's her SI level?
Aah, but she's engraved, forgot that, you can't swap anyone that has any engravings whatsoever
oh...can i undo that?
Swap scroll was added before engravings were a thing, and they haven't bothered fixing that at all. No idea if they plan on doing it either
Sadly, no. So for now, you're completely stuck with that Shemira
The others don't really look worth swapping for anything, so I'd just hang on to the scroll for now and not spend it on anything. Maybe they let engraved heroes be swapped eventually
Many of your units are useful, so your account isn't in terrible shape for being that old, you pretty much just need to find a new main carry
Daimon, Kren, Grezhul, Oden, Raku, add all of them to your wishlists if you don't have them there already
Actually, the easiest way for you to get a new carry online asap would be to just garrison Ainz, and link him to Shemira
i unfortunatelly do not have Ainz and i don't think i can get him anymore
raine
scarlet
warek
belinda
twins(oceanic strings)
Garrison Ainz, start working on getting his SI to +20, and keep him on the furniture wishlist until you have 9F.
Work on getting Rowan to +30 SI
The run with a team like Ainz, Rowan, Rosa, Lyca, Brutus
You can, they added a feature that let you get all old dimensional units. Similar to mercenary hires, just "permanent", and you get your own copy that you upgrade as if you owned it yourself. You find it in the Friends page, under Garrison
Ooh, and i own him forever then or?
Kind of yes, kind of no. You do need to hire him every single month, but besides that, he will be as if you owned him in almost every other sense.
You need to spend 100 garrison tokens each month to keep refreshing the hire, and after you've done that six times, all future hires will cost nothing at all. So you need to spend resources for six months to keep him, but after that, all you have to do is press the rehire button, at no cost at all. Garrison tokens can be bought with hero coins, lab coins, challenger coins, and guild coins
Getting 66 garrison tokens with guild coins and 34 with hero coins each month is most likely the most cost-effective choice
Okay, did not know that. Thank you very much for the help and info :)
Are there any downsides if i forget to refresh the hire or something like that?
None at all, you just stop being able to use the hero until you refresh it again. Doesn't matter who you hire it from, you can hire from different people every time if you want, all upgrades, items, furnitures, SI levels etc will be kept
Awesome, thanks again for the help
Np, welcome back 😉
Any idea for this fight? 🤔
Can you link your heroes as well? So we know what you have to work with
Perfect
I think you can toss Silvina from your own team at least, she doesn't do much there. Put Talene in her position instead
Adding Arden in Talenes position to add more CC might help
Is Mirael or Talene your main damage dealer? Which one generally tends to get most damage done?
Talene
In that case, you might be able to drop Mirael for more cc as well, like Safiya
You're so close to getting Arden to L+ as well, once you get him to level 141 he becomes an incredible cc monster
Yeah being E+ makes him so hard to use bc anything murders him
Not sure what else to do without seeing how the fight actually ends up going, give it a go with safiya and arden in talenes position, and put talene in the spot where silvina is, and see how it works
Which boss?
Replace Rowan with Warek in the team you're using already, and you'll do great I think. Rosa following Saurus instead of Mortas might be a damage increase as well
WIll se if i can do anything to get some extra pull and try to fish for that extra arden
And make sure to get max value out of the Scarlet trial when you use it, if you can gimmick your way to being able to hire her with a +30 SI she will melt them
Tossing out heroes from the RC and making sure that Raku, Oden, Lucretia, Rowan and Merlin are the heroes with the highest CP should give the hired version +30 SI as well I think
The hired trial unit inherits SI and furn levels based on your five highest CP units, so you need to remove everyone with higher CP than any of the ones I mentioned above. You basically need your five highest CP heroes to have +30SI, so that the average is 30 SI as well.
Not sure, the whole average thing is a bit "magical" to me, I'm not sure which factors actually play a part. But someone tested by throwing them out of the crystal earlier today, so that does work at least
Intuitively I would assume removing gear should work as well though, but I'm not sure
Could someone help me with this; i keep dying with every single formationn
can you post screenshots of all your units so we can see what you have to work with?
alrrr
don't mind him posing; he felt his camera moment 😫
this is totally my unit cough cough
Oh lol, I didn't mean every single individual unit, just a screenshot of your total box xD
OH LIKE THAT XDD okay one sec
i have the feeling i lack for my chapter; but they work so who cares
perfect, ty
Right, first thing; mandatory unsolicited advice time: Don't ascend so many units to L, it really hamstrings your progress because you end up with a ton of fodder burned away on units that you won't get any use out of. In almost every single case, you want to save fodder and hero copies until you have enough to instantly bring someone all the way from E to A in one grand slam
The difference between an E+ unit and a L or L+ unit is almost zero
Ahh okayy
What's done is done, can't do anything about it now, but at least stop doing more of it, and start saving your fodder so you can build more A units instead
kk
so for now my characters r done and i need to save to get them to ascended in one big slam or what?
Grezhul can stay at his current SI level as well, he doesn't need to go all th eway to +30. Start ranking up Rowans SI to +30 instead
Mhm im planning to level rowans; i lately realised grezhul's 30+ thingy is jackass
As for that particular stage, try something like this maybe?
Scarlet
-- Awk Talene
Rowan
-- Lyca
Tasi
ooo i love the way u put it for me to understand XD
Hard to tell what might work without seeing what goes wrong to begin with
they just die
yup; dead again they keep overpowering me
this was the exact same situation at 22-50
wait ima try and screen record it
Do you have Brutus?
YH UH ABT THAT; when i started out i fed leg+ brutus to anoki 💀 his shield would be nice yh
Yikes, lmao
ima charge my phone; so i can screen record and send it here alr?
Well, a plain E Brutus would do the same trick as a L+ one, so all is not lost
oof
I gotta go offline for a while in a few minutes so can't follow up much more, so don't stress it, but I'll try to check in later if nobody else comes around
oh i have an e+ brutus
Try slamming him in front of Estrilda, that might help slowing things down enough for your carries to get going as well
Okay; have fun with whatever ur gonna do alrr even if it's hell U UNDERSTAND MY POINT XDD
alr i will; cyaa
@spare robin YOUR PLAN WORKED, WOOOOOO TYY
heheee
Nice! :D
Thank you
Who should I put in my rc?
Daimon, Rowan and Eironn
Hi hi could someone help me bc this is hard af 😭
what’s happening like is arden ccing Scarlett or what bc u might want to nara him or something
well she goes to him; then after like 5 seconds brutus' dead then athalia goes to the rest and then everyone dies
yea I’m not rlly sure but without seeing the fight I feel like arden is rooting ur team
lemme film the fight; i'll send it here then if it fits, otherwise i'll just cut the vid in diff parts
o ya that’s tough it doesn’t even look close
I KNOW 😭 i've tried so many comps yet athalia keeps killing everybody
Should I move anyone around or is everyone good where they are, I’m considering swapping Silas and Ainz bc Ainz dies pretty quick since I still need to upgrade his gear
Struggling at this part of the campaign—any tips for lineup to plow through a bit more of the stages?
Would using ainz and Albedo work any better
I’ve been doing something like this every stage, but I’m assuming fawkes caged ur daimon and you lose so you could prob nara him and have rowan front line
meantto attach image but oh well
Currently stuck on 10-10. Any input on what I can do different? My frontline just doesn't seem to last. Perhaps I just need to wait for more xp since I'm on zero.
What are good counters to the god comp besides Ainz? I consistently lose to it with 5 pull or GB+Raku and I don't have twins or ezizh high enough for pvp
I could def push through with this but was hoping to save it for when I’m actually stuck (since I know this is just a team synergy issue)
Lemme give this a try the
*thank you
but yeah try nara cc fawkes or if u have another unit more dmg than daimon put it in as well so fawkes targets that instead
Ik ppl say not to dual carry but maybe daimon instead of desira idk
Lol I threw eironn in the back middle, moved Rowan like you said, and it worked ez clap
Fair
That’s good to know. I read somewhere he gets a lot of utility in back center, but I didn’t actually fact check that, and never knew about throwing him up front, so thanks for that tip
Whoever I put there seems to just get almost one shot either way, so it's probably just the levels that are too low?
I feel like u could probably push past that since only 20 or so lvl deficit but idk
yeah u only want the cart just make sure if u front line have daimon same side for the potions
That’s awesome to know thanks for the help fr
How does a mirael comp look like?
Golus, hogan, daimon, mirael, arden/rowan
Any lineups?
need help on this, best i’ve gotten with this comp is daimon in 1v3 all full hp
Wouldnt Rosa be better instead of rowan? Or is she too low lvl
The arden/rowan is basically flex, depends if you need heals or cc. So rosa can work
Thing is, mirael doesn't survive enough to ult at least once, unfortunately
I would try rowan across from athalia, brutus across from thane and daimon across from lucius
Rowan is a pretty good healer early game
Looking For Campaign Comp
Khasos is what kills my team at the start, with an axe throw
Been stuck on campaign 13-23 for a moment, just reset all of my heroes, looking for a team line-up with what I already have, any help is greatly appreciated
Do I have better team options? Half way through ch36 right now, my 4th team is crap, and I was thinking of building a real thoran cheese?
Need advice on teams, and who to prioritize for better team options
Pretty new to Game stuck on 6-20 any pointers on leveling the guys up faster
Hey! Should I make Ainz or Daimon to 240? Or maybe both to 220?
check pins in #classic-questions
Hey! Should I make Ainz or Daimon to 240? Or maybe both to 220?
(posting again question to make this legible)
read beginner guide in #classic-questions if you haven't btw
but it's up to you ig whichever carry you are using more
you should be buying arthur shards from lab store if you wanna build ainz
At this point both and that's why I wonder and yeah, I will be about to go for Arthur
what were you buying before arthur?
Probably daimon, what is ainz linked to?
Basically nothing - I play lab like 12 times by now (started recently doing so) and all tokens went on Ainz/Albredo
@dim pecan what's your furn looking like on Arthur albedo ainz
Raine
Arthur none, Ainz 3, Albredo 1
you mean estrilda?
you should probably do daimon then you can get much further with that roster btw as well
Alright, I will try to do that. Thank you both for help! :)
Any tips are greatly appreciated
Would putting thoran in a rc slot work?
have you read beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
Yup.
try scarlet trial instead of rowan there
your crystal looks fine
Tried, she doesn't survive enough to actually ult
try lyca instead of golus
Tried oden instead of daimon too
do
scarlet
lyca
mirael
hogan
daimon
And tbh without rowan's heal mirael can barely survive to ult
1 level difference mirael will be fine
put call on her and if you don't have call merc a lucrieta and do the Peaks of Times
golus for hogan?
Tried, still dieing like a dog
maybe just wait to get mirael to 141 then i'm not sure
Was wondering if this formation was a good all around to use
where’s your carry
lyca is the main dmg dealer
so no carry then
im trying to get shemira to ascnded just need another legendary plus to get her from mythic to mythic plus, i have enough copies of her
Shemira is horrible she won’t help
o
do you not have daimon?
I’m guessing you didn’t read a single guide
nope lmao
Read beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
is there any1 in this discord that can help me get an old account back? no1 in in-game support is getting back to me, i havent played on it since october 31st 2020 and it wasnt linked to google or facebook
Any way to get this to 100B?
Any line up suggestions
Any advice on a way I can win this. Been trying different things but I might not be able to with what I have.
Hero’s on the board are all I can use in my 1st row.
Could someone tell me how i should do this- Ive tried adding Nara in places but it doesnt seem to work
oh my god that is a yellow box
Whats that-
well don’t do it anymore
Okay-
I didnt know 🧍🏻♀️ I dont really take this game seriously as other people do so i dont really know that much 😀
well if you don’t really care then just keep playing like you do lol i was just saying in case you were taking it a bit more seriously and wanted to progress faster
nara opposite of isa and gwyn middle
Anyone have a comp for scarlet trial level 541 round 4 without frampton
Im pretty new any lineup ideas
Any lineup suggestions?
Is this a good general line up? Kind of struggling on this stage
A better general lineup I used was
Rowan Brutus
Daimon eironn fereal
why are you leveling 2 talenes
read beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions if you haven’t
Idk I have the resonating crystal and once I bring it to level 1 all the things that are on the crystal stick to that level one talene
I don’t wanna level it up cause I know. It’s useless
I can ascend her to L rn should I?
you can ascend her all the way to L+ use the one you have leveled and use 1mirael and 1shotgun guy
if you’re pre 160 that was a good decision. read beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
make her L+
Using what
the other e+ copy you had
nothing
:/ it’s not L+ tho
you can’t make her L+
Did I do something wrong
yes you used both e+ copies of her
Bruh what I didn’t even notice
:/ sorry about that.
Should I level up shemira to L+
when you get another e+ copy of her make her L+
no.
also if you need more help that isn’t related to lineup help go to #classic-questions
Ok
Should I get rosaline to L+
i rather wait for rowan
This has happened like five times.....sauveus keeps healing ...
And the timer runs out and I lose
Any changes I should make
Eironn
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi
Help please
Swap Nara and Rowan placement, Rowan potions are not reaching Daimon
Okay
Also get Mirael to 121 if you can
Umm I can but I would have to this
Sacrifice one elite plus copy which I don't want to for now
though u could since if I’m not mistaken u have an L+ kren
ye that’s fair
Also hogan is like sacrifice for ferael sometimes
Do u still need help w this
Yeah my nara died
Ok
also if I were you I’d swap rowan and daimon position if u choose to add ferael instead of nara
if u add tank instead, put daimon back line and make sure rowan is middle
Hmm okay will try
OR u can do a sick mirael daimon combo wombo op duo carry that ppl say u shouldn’t do and just put mirael middle
also if u want to add me so u can see my clears (I think that’s how it works?) my id is 137122952
This is driving me insane. I hate Tasi.
I beat that one w rowan front line and ferael instead of lyca
Something like that though I’d prob have oden behind brutus so he lives longer
but I usually do a variation of those units in different places to pass the levels
U got a stacked thoran tho so maybe that’s better than brutus? Idk I don’t have good thoran
Damn
Is there any other way too complete this campaign stage ?
Any suggestions how to deal with fawkes
How to get maximum damage here?
Anyone except suarus for now
Scarlet, but given your progression your free Scarlet isn't the strongest. I wouldn't worry about it if you don't have good supports like Rowan, Twins, Mortas, Raine or Warek
I have her unlocked not the free one..I use an artifact on her maybe she is decent
Don't worry, doesn't take much to start getting 2k-3k Guild Coins a day not counting Soren
Fereal, arden or Oden instead of scarlet. You have very little cc in that lineup
Do you have lyca?
Nara opposite Saveas
Arden instead of Scarlet,
probably Lyca instead of Rowan, or put Rowan in Hogans spot
Daimon frontline at the top instead of Thoran if he survives
Nara dies too quick against saveas I tried that
Lyca will help against that
Don't have her
Hm. Do you have brutus?
I guess it is a level problem everyone is just dying quick except daimon...I don't have Brutus
The last ones on the field are sauveus daimon and the horse lady
Most of the time
Does Nara survive long enough to hook Saveas at all, or does she die before she hooks?
Naah she can hook
Okay it almost worked...sauveus targets thoran first which was what I planned
Nara
-- Daimon
Rowan
-- Thoran
Arden/Ferael/Tasi/someone with cc
Daimon will melt fall low quick infront of sauveus that is why I was using thoran
Everyone melts if you don't kill him asap
So daimon needs to be as close as possible so you can nuke him down
Alternatively, something like this
Nara
-- Thoran
Daimon
-- Rowan
someone with cc
I tried oden almost won
Spam some retries, sometimes a little streak of good rng can do the trick
If you find a lineup where things almost work out
Whew won thanks a lot just tried ferael instead of oden
Nice!
I hate sauveus
Hehe, yeah he can push some incredible amounts of damage sometimes
Nara will very often be the answer to situations like that, whenever you get into fights where a single unit deals an overwhelmingly large proportion of the damage to you
You'll start running into Isabelle eventually, she's even worse, lol
Either you kill her before she ults, or you die
I think Isabelle is more prominent in chapter 9 or ten
Could use a hand here, or should I just wait until I can level mirael more? Silvana is there just because she's 140 and I hoped she could draw aggro at least
Just wait until start running into tasi every other level in chapter 27+
Mirael should be able to handle that I'd imagine, Daimon probably doesn't do much. Who does Silvina jump on? Bard guy?
On second thought, take out Golus, put Daimon in his spot. Add some kind of CC like Arden, Ferael, Tasi, maybe Nara here opposite Mirael as well
She jumps on enemy mirael. Also, she might be able to, but the front line dies too fast and she can't get enough energy to ult. I used to go with daimon carry but I switched items around once I got mirael to L+
soemthing like
Nara
-- Daimon
Mirael
-- Golus
Lyca
maybe? Or Brutus instead of Golus if you have him
Unfortunately I didn't pull him yet
My team can't stall enough yet to draw aggro for mirael to gather energy
That's what I've got atm
R u on the same stage as me :o
Any ideas? Brutus as usually destroying everything
Literally tired of him being everywhere, especially Divine Realm lol
No Nara, no Fawkes
Who should i focus to lvl up or what hero line up should i play?
Read guides in pins in #classic-questions
U only should be levelling up five main heroes rest goes into rc
Daimon or Mirael will be ur carry ...I prefer daimon
Stuck 13-14
3 hypo mages... hell
https://streamable.com/aq7thg
I have 1 rc slot if need be
Any ideas on how to stop morvus from ulting Mirael?
Arden, Oden or Silvina
Silvina jumps enemy mirael, arden doesn't survive enough to root, will try oden, but instead of who? I need rowan for the heals
Daimon can't sustain?
He dies the 4th but can't really sustain properly, the frontline can take 2-3 hits at most
Thoran?
He's only epic, would that be enough
Yup
When does your lab store reset?
26 days
Ok good
I garrison'd Prince of Persia at ch. 11
Mirael falls compared to Daimon imo
You have Rowan, that's more than enough to help Daimon sustain
Mirael is higher lvl atm, daimon will take the place once he can carry his own weight
He won't, you need supports lol
I do not have the resources to garrison yet though
Not enough? You're 4 days in...?
I have none? I have no idea where to get those from
How much can you get?
Friends, last tab on the left
Click apply then exchange
Do not exchange, just show me how much you can get
Rip
I had no idea that's how it works
You spent your lab coins on Arthur?
Yeah, I was told that's a good call
Bad call
Welp, lab resets in 11 hrs
Well yeah it is, but rn you need pop to bruteforce chapters :x
Well wait until next month for garrison ig
How is Ainz that good though
God bless Oden ulting Morvus
Get 10x pulls every time i get 2.7k dias?
Weekly reset for what exactly
Ahh
Good call to spend lab on arthur
Yes it is, but what if you garrsioned?
Garrison using other resources, not lab coins
As a beginner?
As a beginner it's questionable to even be garrisoning at all, let alone with lab coins
Well lab store resets monthly, 20+ days to get 60k coins is not enough?
As a brand new player, maybe, maybe not
Point is, arthur is #1 priority with lab coins
Garrison is a distant second
How's Arthur that good though
Dimensional tank
70% damage reduction, buffs allies behind him, counts towards albedo's sig
You'll want to have him later
Help please
what happens
Everyone dies 🤷🏽♂️
The main problem is the girl with the knives
help plz
put rowan across from athalia lol
i was stuck here for like 3 days lol
Help
just ascend the fodders the use ur wukong carry, and follow the guide in #classic-questions check pins there
Help with lineup
w who?
same heros I put there?
I will test now
I’m on ch11
successful
noice
not lineup but dont make so many heroes legendary if you cant make them legendary+
well
mister tremble wheres your trial scarlet girl
u have lots of tanks s he would be very useful for you for those 3 days
i'd guess talene + lucius in the front and daimon + shemira + scarlet trial in the back
events then trial
In that order?
ye
you have way too many legendary heroes btw
u shouldnt make legendary heroes that ur not gonna use you need food to make legendary+ and mythic
u need a lot of fodder to make a mythic hero btw
what is LCT ?
Legendary challenger tournament
from event ?
yeah i have no idea what legendary challenger tournament is
thats just 3v3 arena
oh you meant you wanna get athalia from event and challenger store
Yeah
im probably saving 1 milion challenger coins for one of the bearded dimensionals
merlin i guess
not sure tbh i think a few weeks
i like dimensionals my goal is to have an all dimensional team
ainz albedo arthur merlin
Depends on your coin output. But generally you have enough for 250k a month
Looking for some guidance on which heroes to ascend next. I feel stuck waiting on one more daimon and row an but outside of that I feel there may be others I can work on now that are useful but I'm afraid to waste fodder.
Right now I need something to help me counter Isabella, only stages with her give me any real trouble.
Any ideas? I've beaten the other two stages. Daimon is just way too squishy
Read the guide pinned in #classic-questions, you might have to scroll a bit
I have read them and I think I have taken the generic starting advise to the max. I'm just shy of 160 on my main 5, trying to figure out where to focus after that. I feel like I have a lot purple+ waiting but iffy on what to use em on
Help
Silvina,thoran,nara,rowan,daimon
Pull whom
What heroes are closest to A for you?
I only have one M+, daimon so I am assuming him. I need one more epic+ to get him to A
In copies I meant
Shem shouldn’t be in crystal btw
Try daimon brutus rowan lyca ferael from top down
Brutus lyca Arden fareal Diamon
Brutus lyca daimon Arden fareal
Yea try with shacy comp also
Never position ur daimon infront of saivas or what his name is
As you progress daimon will be in the backline more
okay formations create imma try them out and okie so have tanks late on like brutus and thoarn
that worked like a charm wth
thankss 🙂
Get rowan si30 also that will help a lottt
Working on the SI 😌, didn't expect to get 3 copies in the expand of 1.5 day
Who should I replace nara with on the crystal @lunar gulch
Tidus morrow mishka
Why shouldn't Shem be there? I had been swapping people in and out to try to help w/ some stages I got stuck. I don't use her often. Also I think in terms of copies, the most I have is 2 E+ of Niru and Shem, 2 for Ira, 2 for Arden (but hes not ascended tier so i think he's just fodder?)
Help pls
You sure you’ve looked at beginner guide in #classic-questions?
I've read through all the guides multiple times (here and on reddit, some are the same), but I'm clearly missing something. Can you be more specific and I'll go review
Shem is not a good pick is why he says that
Post your box it just seems like you don’t have beginner wishlist
I believe overall I am looking for 8 E copies of the ones I want to get to A. Daimon I think in theory I have used 4, have a E+ (so 2 more) and I need one more E+ (2 more) to get to A.
Don't place daimon infront of saveus line of sight
U tried afk.helper?
This is just random placements
I don’t know all of the heroes you have but you have heroes like hendrik etc so idk if you’ve got the beginner wishlist @full carbon
Saveus is gonna melt daimon in seconds, been there.
What's that
That's not gonna help for ch11
I know this is just a random placement
Post your box @full carbon
What yall mean by "box"?
Hero's sort by faction screenshot
From in-game or is there a website?
A Website u can see winning formations
The only update I just made was adding scarlet. Also I posed my heroes in the original post (4 pics)
My box
I tried seeing my friends formations who had cleared it....everyone is using a talene
Try golus or izold
Is izold worth it though? Golus dies kinda fast too, even with his passive
Or daimon
You dont have better tanks so just have to try what work i guess
Let's goo I cleared it
🥳
Hero box not temple of ascencion
Silvina and Scarlett was the play
Go on heroes
Ah sry
Nice heroes
Keep levelling daimon to 200 and rest to 160
You will most likely get a hero to 7/8 copies soon and then you can ascend them
Don’t make L heroes as well
I feel like progression has been rather good with exception of any Isabella team who fucks my daimon ult. I just feel like I'm at the point I need to start looking at who to ascend next
I have one mistake with the extra mirael I think
Nah you don’t you haven’t got enough copies yet
You don’t really have anyone clear to ascend when you get daimon to 200 and rest to 160 then you can think about ascending
Make Arden 160 first
Early dealing with isabell is placing nara opposing her
I think I'll have them all 160 by tomorrow
I don't have a nara yet
Idk how not but I don't lol
Use Eironn
Theres a chapter completion chest that has nara iirc, I dont remember what chapter tho
Or you can put nara in your wishlist til you get one copy then drop her off
Thanks I'll Check. I may have used hero select chest before I knew better
.
Appreciate all the help, I'll sit tight on ascentiions, level to cap and see if I can grab nara/eironn to use for vs isabellas
@worldly robin used daimon carry until now, just switched to mirael as she's higher lvl, will switch back once I'm able to get all the fodders to L+
What do you need help with?
whom to pump? what team to put together?
Have you read the pins in #classic-questions ?
No
With where I am at, should I still be doing normal 10x pulls, or move to scamgazer pulls to try for specifics (like Daimon to get my first A)
Summons defo
Yh it should be then mortas after
Give it a read it is very helpful
Ok, thank
Never gaze for 4f heroes
What does 4f mean though
got it, thx. i just didnt know if it was worth while when you are like.. just 1 away from a big milestone
4 main facs LB wilder mauler GB
so you are only gazing for.. celestials and shit
I thought you had 6 daimon copies?
you are right, i was just asking in general as an example of if there are exceptions to what to stargaze fpr
Yh even then you should only gaze with diamonds after you have minimum 10 A and it can go up to more
ok cool
Look at SG prio in beginner guide and just follow that celehypos are only thing worth gazing
sounds good
@arctic laurel Wait why was Arthur a bad call
Idek
Suppose it was 'cause I could've used the lab coins for garrison resources
Who tf
Would you rather rent two high-investment Dimensionals you can't even use
Or permanently possess one of the best tanks in the game
It wasn't me who called it a bad call
I'm explaining it to you now since that advice was clearly not true lol
Ignore whoever said that lol Arthur is good
Stage + heroes
Worked with Fera, you're a God as always lol
I suck lol
post the lineup
Aight bet
read beginnner guide pinned in #classic-questions . stop making so many legendary heroes
Got it
put that daimon in your resonating crystal
I see that I messed up bad
How do I get the Rowan skin
it's not toooooooooooo bad but yeah you kinda messed up. shouldn't be to hard to fix tho
you'll get it when the event for it comes
Awesome
Oh it ain’t out yet
no not yet
daimon
----hogan
silas
----thoran
pop
try to keep daimon away from estrilda
you don't have any better tank
Like who...? Brutus?
Brutus is good yh
brutus would definitely be better
Tough luck no maulers so far
But you get 1 for completing ch 14 so no point getting a copy from summons
you get him as a chapter clear reward
ch 14? bruh...
Ya
I'm at 13 come on, not even a Lyca
You get lyca as a clear reward too
Yeah but so far not so lucky with anything but gravers
That's great
if you dont want to use hogan use grezhul or hodge for a 4 piece faction buff
Rng jt
Yeah with Daimon as 1 v 5?
the game has a lot of rng so do it 10 times or so if you see no progression try something else
Try what though? Nothing I need to rc?
I got a hypo, is he worth investing into?
do you have the artifact duras call?
alright then try a full team of gravborns and put daimon in front of the enemy hogan so you have a 5 faction buff if you have any left over xp and gold level daimon
All the way to 160?
yeah if you can
Alright
youll clear it now
Shem and Lucius is too strong
159 how sad
thats fine
what have you tried? so i dont assume the common teams
Ainz comp, alna/daimon comp, lucretia 5 pull
basic 5pull or like eirron skriath then 2 hypos for the bonuses?
Both 😩
oof
charm comp? or ldv raku?
Not the charm comp, I tried some sort of raku comp but I don't know the best formation
could merc a khazard and try charm comp
I used my merc for the week on 37-20
next week maybe unless you can pump some levels out
Alna Grez Oden, Lyca, Ferael perhaps. 
I'll try that again
Usually goes like this
I'd replace Oden's artifact with warden of the arcane. My clear but replace Mishka with Alna. I'd put shroud on Ferael too.
I guess I should start building mishka then 🥲
My stuff got deleted?
I'll keep re trying, I could just stall for the level increase I guess
id imagine its just a rng thing honestly with alna grez
Yeah, I'll keep trying 🚶♀️
? you havent posted anything in regards to a line up recently other then when you were asking about your boxes
Fair
Grezhul, Alna, Oden, Tasi, Raku
I'll try that
Need help
Any ideas? Im currently struggling with tasi dimension skill, nemora heal, or athalia one shot depending on formation
Could someone help build a team? The team I use right now feels a bit outdatef
Except from the hogan and arden those don't
brutus where cecilia is
you want brutus wherever athalia dives to
Holy cow… that worked 😂😳
np just make sure to read beginner guide in #classic-questions and take off heroes when they reach A
i'm 24-44 rn and I'm much lower levelled than you
Any help on this stage? Stuck for 2 week on the 5th battle and can't pass it
Help pweassseeee
silas
daimon
rowan
grezhul
lyca
i ll try it thanks
Should i pik lucius from hero box, i cannot seem to make him Legend to tank better lol
depends on fodder and other things daimon is really good so entirely up to you
Yeah im sticking into tanks that is high sustain for themselves and doesnt get blown up probably
My current roster doesnt have that much tanks yet
rowan can even go in the front row honestly and thatll help with your belinda needing to go in the back mid slot as well so do
shemira
rowan
belinda
brutus
lyca
then you can use other heros like lyca for the haste for the first 8 seconds of battle or arden to root enemies and stun them and so on
Look at beginner guide in #classic-questions
Who has a Scarlet team comp for Soren?
scarlet saurus raine rosa twins
^
Rosa with the blade?
yee
reine eye?
be warned retries will be needed and yeah raine eye
Yeah don't expect your twins to live before their 1st ult most times
merc a 30 si saurus otherwise it wont work honestly you need his healing
chaos blade ideally
hmm, can get the 309e60 with the eye
oh then yeah thats fine
same
kk
Cant really pass this
Rowan needs to stay as mirael doesn't survive without the heals
if you have xp and dust laying around level the slvina and slot her in for someone just to have something in there back line making them focus her down, thats what i would do
are you keeping up with your peaks of time and tower?
Peaks is up to date, in Tower I walled at 141
sounds like waiting for afk rewards is the best option which happens
Fml
anyone albe to tell me best lineups for legends challenger tournament attacking and defending if i dm u my heroes? if so dm me
Hello everyone. Was looking for a few pointers in my lineup. Currently I have the top five in my campaign grind but they've kinda been my go-to for everything else as well. Any pointers for pvp, etc? I've been playing a while but still feel a bit daunted when it comes to proper meta
anyone albe to tell me best lineups for legends challenger tournament attacking and defending if i show my heroes
In single team pvp it mostly comes down to who has the better ainz comp
im talking legends challenger.
Wasn’t talking to you specifically
ohhh lmao my bad
Yeah I noticed the ainz/albed tend to rule it but for the other 3 I wasny sure
But I was gonna mention for lct people tend to just do Ainz, Alna GB, and Lucretia. Hyper specific metas for f2p VS big boy whales/krakens are gonna be slightly different from versions used in campaign but realistically the normal comps will do just fine
what about legends chalenge woffle
can u tell me lineups for attacking and or deffending?
I’m not super well versed in if there’s really even a reason to have different lineups for defending/attacking, but with ainz it’s mostly gonna be ainz/albedo/arthur, then treznor/mortas if you have them very well built, or Merlin/ferael is what I use
mk ion got treznor built and mortas is chillin at L rn.
Desira also works instead of ferael pretty sure
Read the beginner guides in #classic-questions
.
u can swap out fareal for tasi. and maybe switch oden around
what are you even asking
check the tier list to have an idea on what to build
Lineup
bro i’m so bad at this game id appreciate it sm if someone could help me with my lineup
ik that i’ll probably have to reset my characters and level them up the right way but idk which ones to choose
read beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
ok cool thanks
Hey guys. My last screencaps were too dark. Resending in case anyone has suggestions for this stage while I farm enough dust for rc lv 160 :)
do u have brutus ?
Help please
from what i see try, rowan thoran daimon fareal nara in thta order
Not yet, sadly. Don't have Rowan too. Closest I got is Alna, Thoran and Silas.
alna is good enough to hold for a lil
@amber beacon i'd say try lyca alna awakenTalene daimon and any of those l+ fodder u have
Alright. Will try that. Thank you!
Is this team good or bad?
There fr has to be something i havent tried, no matter what I've done from everyone else's lineups, everyone dies in 5 seconds flat
its annoying af
i only took him out bc of the other lineups i saw in here for this stage but
they obviously didnt work
Maybe try Mehira/fereal combo as well
i did that before, it failed miserably--everyone dies quickly, the only 1 whose left standing is rowan, oddly enough
Well what ever you do brutus/rowan/daimon is probably core and just flex around the other 2 slots. run it til you see light a possible win and spam retry for god rng.
also who is rosa following 4 that lineup? im using the 1st one u gave me and daimon lasts long enough to get a second ult but he goes down soon after
Daimon is the main early game carry and everything should be built around him
o SHIT nvm it worked
FINALLY GOD
feels like i aged 5 years dealing with that stage x_x ty
it only gets worse from here
pain
if you've invest on daimon instead on shemira your life will be easier
?
build a team of my heroes for companies
Use wukong hogan lyca ferael and Mirael I guess....u can use Arden sometimes too
Thoran is a good tank but u need to have a rc slot first
Which of these hero inventories are better? I just started playing, and this account is brand new, so I don't know anything about what is as isn't good.
Is there any way to actually pass this or do I have to wait for afk drops? This is annoying me already, tried different combos
Saveas and morvus are high damage so I dont think rowan will be able to frontline. Try hogan frontline and rowan backline and remove lyca.
Already did, still not working properly
Can i know which of these heroes are worth the investment?
Oden is here mostly so he'll drain morvus' energy ( if he ever gets to ult ) so morvus won't snipe mirael
And mirael is sometimes getting killed mid ult animation somehow
Which units should I put in my lineup?
Use Auto-Ascend on everything btw, not Smart Ascend, Auto Ascend just compresses your duplicate Heroes and saves some box space
Wait theres an auto ascend option? 👀 i did not see it
Stop Ascending Heroes to L, first of all. Brutus does not need L, heck he doesn't need E+. Ferael's worth investment but save your judgement until you get 4 copies of one Hero.
It sometimes decides to be stupid
Better to check your Ascensions after every pull and check manually for yourself
If you press smart ascend when you get copies it compresses the copies. If not, it ascends randomly
There is 'auto ascend' and 'smart ascend' look closely.
Auto is fine, it just does obvious things for you.Its safe.
Smart is....far from smart.Dont do it.
im sorry but whats judgement?
Like decision-making
I suppose since I'm just ascending fodder atm I can feed all ive got into them right now, correct?
Put Golus up.
He gets tankier as his hp drops so Saveas wont tear him apart.
Put Rowan front opposite Estrilda.
His cart doesnt refill until lvl 121 so he may as well just die.
Drop Eironn and use a crowd control unit like Arden (rng.Need to retry until he roots the right heroes).
Golus is 2-3 hits for Saveas, unfortunately
Thats normal.
And from what I've tried up until now, arden dies before he can do much. I've been trying to use oden instead
I think you can't Ascend your Fodders any further rn right?
