lineup-help

[pale kettle]

Please

[maiden marsh]

Buy them for daimon if it won't run you out of gold

[rain mural]

#classic-questions pinned please

[rain mural]

Mk sounds good!

[south folio]

Show Ur stage

[frozen harness]

Thoran talene daimon rowan mirael

[south folio]

I mean the enemies

[pale kettle]

I changed it a bit rn

[frozen harness]

Try that

[pale kettle]

Will do thank you

[south folio]

Thoran in front of golus

[pale kettle]

It workedddd thank you!

[frozen harness]

Nice, daimon is rarely 1strow so now u know for future stages

[native wave]

@frozen harness
rc 120 as you can see, I just need 2 Saveas to breakthrough Lv. 121

[frozen harness]

Drop gwyn for mirael and place her at pos 4. Daimon pos 3

[native wave]

middle back?

She dies almost instantly, like the rest of my team...

[zinc island]

Same here…

[tepid heron]

Any advise for this stage?

[zinc island]

Omg Lyca my bbg😍😍

Let Lyca stay purr

[native wave]

Daimon

Thoran
Mirael
Hogan
Oden
I presume?

[zinc island]

Ion know the rest like dat😞

[zinc island]

I need help too.🥴✌🏿

[native wave]

With?

[frozen harness]

Yes

[native wave]

I showed you iirc

[native wave]

Instant wipeout

[normal sigil]

GODDAMN IT TALENE EXPIRED

Trial hero expired bro goddamn it

Now Unless I get really lucky and pull a cool ass celestial, im gonna have a hell of a time fighting off enemies in ch 10

[zinc island]

😍😍

[native wave]

.

[zinc island]

They had me using this team.😟😟

No matter how much you changed the positions they kept dying…

[normal sigil]

Wait how are you still at ch 7 when im in ch 10 and youre only 4 lvls below me

[frozen harness]

Does eironn pull enemies at lvl120, I forgor. U could try him at pos 4

[zinc island]

That’s not bad??

[zinc island]

I’m playing the game slowly alr💀

[normal sigil]

Damn I didnt know I was going faster than a regular beginner lmfao

[zinc island]

And stuff like this that people recommend is the reason I’m so far behind..

[frozen harness]

Show ur box again

[zinc island]

I actually reset everyone but Daimon..

[normal sigil]

??? Why

[zinc island]

Anywho..😟😟😟

I accidentally overlevel mirael and wizard dude and was taking me all over places…

[normal sigil]

Ayo remember to not lvl more than 5 heroes in your box

[zinc island]

I would never 😍😍

[normal sigil]

[zinc island]

I was using the crystal.

😟

[normal sigil]

Why didnt nobody tell me I was going faster than a regular beginner? Lol

[zinc island]

My plan for that stage was this but ion think Gwen all that-

[normal sigil]

Thats kinda awesome

[zinc island]

Is that bad🥴🥴

[frozen harness]

Drop Antandra & raku out of rc and put lyca oden in there tomorrow

[zinc island]

Alr.

I always have crystals to skip time😍😍

[zinc island]

I actually have 2 spots open rn-

🤩🤩

[frozen harness]

If u rlly want to know how good you are at min-max u can check afkhelper and see lowest clear

[normal sigil]

minmax?

[frozen harness]

Thats great, would still drop both out and get silas and Grezhul or kren

[zinc island]

We love going faster than me😍😍

[zinc island]

Drop who-

[frozen harness]

Term for pushing maximal with lowest investment

[frozen harness]

Antandra raku

[normal sigil]

I have never heard of that term till now lmao. Very interesting word too ill try and add that to my vocabulary in my mind

[normal sigil]

Wait how do you go to afkhelper i dont see that in channels

[frozen harness]

It's a Website u have to google it

[native wave]

He does

Also squishy though

[frozen harness]

U should have 5 heroes that u lvl up

[native wave]

Daimon barely holds on until his ult if I'm lucky

[zinc island]

Ik they been reset for a while

For being stuck on this s stage with all 3-skilled characters 😍😍

[faint current]

It's pinned in this channel

[native wave]

Fucking Khasos!

[frozen harness]

Try ferael instead of oden

[normal sigil]

I dont understand the website what do I do just type in the chapter and stage that Im in?

[tepid current]

Need help with this. The cc chain is always broken then rosa and mehira die. I suspect my issue is my gear isnt good enough?

[maiden marsh]

Yes

[native wave]

Yikes I'm getting d e s t r o y e d...

[frozen harness]

Yep u will see different formations then rlly handy for your future struggles. U can also upload ur own clears

[frozen harness]

Yea I think rosa needs more investment. U still can use a merc? U have windbinder on mehira and call on rowan/rosa?

[tepid current]

Windbinder on mehira and call on both of them. What kind of investment wud Rosa need? Her si only increases atk/def which shouldn't matter.

[normal sigil]

Okay I see how the website is now…. But wow people actually had a crystal lvl of 153 before they defeated my stage in ch 10 isnt that kinda bad competitively?

[gaunt quiver]

I need some help with this stage

[unreal plover]

Need help

[frozen harness]

Dont know about early game on there. Later in Chapter like 30+ it makes more sense

[frozen harness]

Skreg&brutus with barricade. Safiya, skriath, kren, brutus, skreg formation

[frozen harness]

Drop tasi for daimon. Brutus lyca silas eironn daimon formation

[native wave]

How do I get more mauler fodders!

[unreal plover]

Didn’t work

[gaunt quiver]

It doesn't work.. Brutus invulnerability too op then i die to him and khasus

[frozen harness]

Drop eironn for Fereal

[frozen harness]

U tried a bunch? Then try kren in safiya position and drop safiya for numisu

[gaunt quiver]

I think my daimon is just week as fuck.. after like 5 seconds he gets crit and dies in 1 hit

[silk ibex]

Play the game. You'll get them, or Mauler Tower

[unreal plover]

Still didn’t work

[icy parcel]

have you gotten Nara? also you could put Mirael at the top, so her Ult deals extra damage to Khasos and get rid of him early

[native wave]

The fight barely lasts 5s

No Nara

[icy parcel]

show Box

[frozen harness]

@timid ermine the box

[native wave]

I did show it?

#lineup-help message
@icy parcel

[icy parcel]

cool, you do have 3 Daimon copies, make him L if you have the fodder

[round moth]

How can i use this?

[native wave]

Yeah once I'm at ch. 12

[icy parcel]

since you can get him to L+ with the Chest from clearing ch12

[icy parcel]

nah, like make him L in order to reach 12

[native wave]

I'll have 4 copies at ch. 12, which is soon if I clear 11-23!

I can't?

[icy parcel]

do you got the free E+ Shemira ?

[native wave]

I did

[gaunt quiver]

You use them on faction specific banner, you should mostly use it on graveborn

[icy parcel]

are you somewhat close to making a E+ GB fodder?

[native wave]

I have E Thoran, do I just feed E+ Thoran to Daimon?

Is it worth it?

[frozen harness]

Try that formation and change oden with a different hero. Try 5 times everytime

[icy parcel]

nah, Thoran is a good hero, show your GB page

[icy parcel]

okay, you are not in a bad spot, go grind King Tower for blue stones, hopefully you get a Silvina, then make R+ Silvina, which turns into E, then E+, and you feed that Silvina and Shemira to Daimon

[native wave]

S T U C K (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[gaunt quiver]

Why feed shemira?

[icy parcel]

kek, people tend to be lazy with KT so I thought you still had room there

[native wave]

What a coincidence... another fucking Khasos in tower...

[icy parcel]

go into Lab store and buy the Silvina then

[native wave]

He's my nemesis rn

[frozen harness]

Try that formation and change out Oden pos with other heroes. It will work 100%

[native wave]

Not mauler fodder?

[icy parcel]

Why would you botter with Mauler fodder?

[native wave]

Cause rc 121 is better...?

[icy parcel]

nah, what you need is L Daimon which can also be 121

[icy parcel]

ignore maulers, go buy Silvina and do what I told you above

[native wave]

Sure ig

[frozen harness]

DonoWall

[native wave]

Reset someone to get Daimon to 121?

[gaunt quiver]

If it's one of ur 5 rc people then i wouldn't do it, it'll bring down ur rc to lvl 1

[icy parcel]

yes, reset Golus (the non L mauler)

[native wave]

Alright damn I get destroyed still

With Talene expired, this is tough...

[deft stream]

Remove Hogan from team, Frontline Daimon, put Oden where Ferael currently is

[native wave]

Oden and Fera both...? or who is the 5th?

[deft stream]

Play around with the 5th, Eironn is better than Fera early on

[round moth]

thx i got 4 epic

[silk ibex]

Laughs in Estrilda, Ezizh, Tasi, Isabelle and Flora

[round moth]

sadly no legendary

[silk ibex]

Wait what do you mean by this

[native wave]

Lol?

[deft stream]

No L Talene most likely

[silk ibex]

@deft stream Definitely not, the person was asking what Faction Scrolls were used for

[round moth]

oh i just realized there is no legendary in it

[deft stream]

Correct

[round moth]

lmao

[silk ibex]

@round moth The only Hero that starts out as Legendary as of now is the newest one, Awakened Talene. Did you use the scrolls on Graveborn?

[round moth]

yes

[native wave]

Does added haste, hasten the hero's ult?

[deft stream]

What do you mean?

[silk ibex]

Makes them attack faster = Ult faster iirc?

[deft stream]

^

[silk ibex]

Like it makes them cycle through their attacks faster or something? I forgot how it works

[native wave]

Should I add haste artifact to Mirael? 🤔

[silk ibex]

Dura's Call?

[native wave]

Eye

[deft stream]

Yes

[silk ibex]

Wouldn't Call be better if he's not using Daimon? More Ult spam and stuff

[native wave]

I am using Daimon??

[deft stream]

Eye on Mirael, The other thing on Daimon

[silk ibex]

Doesn't particularly matter that early on since it's Mirael but yeah if you're using Daimon, Call on Daimon, Eye on Mirael

[silk ibex]

Yeah that's perfectly fine

[native wave]

And yet I die

[silk ibex]

Probably not the greatest idea to get Daimon to Legendary so quickly tho, you're still pretty early on in the game

[deft stream]

He will get 4th copy, perfectly good move

[native wave]

11-23, ch. 12 next copy

Ahh this annoying KHASOS!

[deft stream]

Have you tried swapping thoran and Daimon placing?

[native wave]

I did

[silk ibex]

@native wave Is the next copy the 4th?

[deft stream]

Also Silvina kinda sucks

Do you have Lyca?

[silk ibex]

Silvina's pretty bad yeah, dogshit compared to Nara and Athalia who do her job way better, heck Cecilia

[native wave]

Yeah I tried Eironn, Fera, Arden, Hogan, no Lyca
Next is 4th copy yes

[deft stream]

Do you got Silas?

[native wave]

Yes I got him

[fathom iron]

Pray for rng I guess?

[native wave]

Free rc slot also
I just need Mirael to ult!

[deft stream]

Put Silas where Silvina is, that should do

[silk ibex]

There's a cheese comp with Eironn you can use early on

Eironn mid-back, Lyca in front of Daimon

[native wave]

No Lyca big sad

[silk ibex]

Daimon can hit 3 enemies at once and Ult more often, tested by someone who's currently around my progression level

[native wave]

Cool Silas is useless
Dies in 1 hit

[silk burrow]

silas op

[native wave]

Tell that to mine

[silk burrow]

show box and stage

[silk ibex]

@native wave If campaign progression stresses you out you can always wait till you're overleveled lol

[native wave]

Yikes

[silk ibex]

I was kinda like you back in the Estrilda days when she was just the most impossible enemy I faced

[fathom iron]

how about upgrading your gear yes? unless you have them up

[silk burrow]

oden

thoran
mira
hogan
daimon

[silk burrow]

not worth

[fathom iron]

oh

[silk ibex]

Took me 310 tries on one of the Estril stages @fathom iron Also I doubt he should invest in non-Mythic gear

[native wave]

Legendary barely dropping rn

[fathom iron]

Even though it gives faction bonus one? I only leveled it to 2 tho mine

[silk ibex]

Nope. Mythic gears come soon enough

[silk burrow]

no not worth even then

[fathom iron]

Aha I see.

[silk ibex]

I've been playing for less than 2.5 months and my Daimon's at T2 investment

[silk burrow]

also uh off topic but what’s your pfp from?

[silk ibex]

My full team's pretty much at Mythic Gear, half with faction bonus

[fathom iron]

Its Valorant's agent, Jett. A fanart

[silk burrow]

ah ty

[deft stream]

I was gonna tell you to do it on ch 12, but since we are already this deep, Garrison Prince of Persia and link him to Silvina

[native wave]

Garrison?

[deft stream]

Yes, the tab next to Mercenaries

[native wave]

How do I get those tokens

[silk ibex]

@deft stream ... I think he doesn't have the resources to Garrison PoP

[fathom iron]

Wait thats new to me how does Garrison work?

[silk ibex]

@fathom iron You rent a Dimensional from a friend for one month and you technically own it as your own separate Hero, renting it for 6 months in total makes it free to rent

[native wave]

Woah
Free rent, is no rent.

[silk ibex]

@deft stream Ideally if he hasn't traded for his Arthur frags this month or doesn't have 40k Hero coins I don't recommend Garrisoning

[deft stream]

Do the plus on the first 3 to the max BUT don't tap Exchange, just to see how much you can get

[native wave]

I didn't trade for Arthur, seems a waste

[fathom iron]

So the moment lets say I rented it I still need to level up it or what?

[silk ibex]

@native wave Arthur or the Garrison? Cause Arthur's one of the strongest Dimensionals

[deft stream]

Is an investment, by progressing he will make the coins back

[native wave]

Arthur in lab store, 15 shards for 60k? Yeah no thanks.

[silk ibex]

Dimensionals are linked to a Hero of your choice, and they inherit that Hero's levels and Ascension Tier, but for Engravings, Furniture, SI and Gear you still need to make your own investment, it only copies Ascension Tier and Levels

[silk ibex]

Dude. Play it right, lol

[native wave]

Not enough for prince

[silk ibex]

We're not kidding when we say Arthur is someone you can't afford to not have

[deft stream]

Imagine it becomes full Ascended hero once you exchange the 4 times

[silk ibex]

The sooner you get him built the better. I'd prioritize getting your Arthur before doing any heavy investment on Garrison cause you free up that store slot for Dim Emblems

[fathom iron]

Getting those Lab coins will be fast so about in 4 months it's worth to spend those on Arthur

[deft stream]

Nah, Arthur is not gonna do anything without Albedo anyway, Prince is straight busted early game

[silk ibex]

@native wave Trust me, the cost of Dimensionals is entirely justified. Normal Heroes take 18 copies to max out, Celepogeans and Awk Talene take even more. Imagine if you get a 5* Arthur from trading one copy of him

[native wave]

5*? Only if I have a 5* hero

[silk ibex]

@deft stream It takes 4 months to get Arthur. I'd still say getting his resources set up and prepped > early PoP Merc

[deft stream]

You do Pop for the first month only

[native wave]

Not enough to exchange for prince though

[deft stream]

Yeah, you need to clear that stage by yourself then summon more to get more hero coins

[silk ibex]

I managed without PoP, I'm still firmly in the "Trade for Arthur" camp

[deft stream]

You got the tools, just watch the actual battle and see what to move

[deft stream]

"managed" what, and in how much time?

[silk ibex]

I'm currently starting investment in Ainzbedo comp so that might be a bias on my end

[silk ibex]

Started around 70 days ago

[native wave]

Nothing to move tbf, Ankhira webs someone, Khasos kills it, sniper kills my tank, Daimon alone not enough

[silk ibex]

Faster Arthur = faster you can get Dim Emblems no?

[deft stream]

Welp, I'm already at ch 24 in 32 days

[native wave]

Damn.

[deft stream]

Faster campaign = faster Towers, Dust, Gear, Everything

[silk ibex]

Oh it'll slow down

[native wave]

Wtf do I do! 😭

[fathom iron]

Any line up suggestions for beating this stage?

[deft stream]

Your rooster is good kiddo, learn to use it, see how oden portal works

[silk ibex]

@silk burrow Need a judgement call here

[silk burrow]

what’s up

[silk ibex]

@native wave Worth to start Garrisoning PoP when he's far from 40k Hero coins saved up and hasn't traded for his Arthur Frag this month?

[native wave]

Not enough either way, I started 4 days ago ._.

[silk burrow]

i’d prioritize arthur tbh

[silk ibex]

I recommended that he get his Arthur frags sooner rather than later since it does kinda take while, plus he gets Dim Emblems from store sooner

You can't get Dim Emblems unless you have an Arthur, it's best to get him out of the way within your first 4 months of playing imo

[deft stream]

One month is more than enough time to gather 60k lab coins, new player gets the bonus coins from Quests...

[silk ibex]

Maybe, but I'd spend Guild Coins on Dims before Lab coins lol

[deft stream]

I garrisoned AND bought Arthur on first month

[silk ibex]

Same, maybe wait till close to shop refresh to see if he has enough?

He doesn't need PoP, not desperately at least imo

[silk burrow]

depending on how many days his store has to reset then i would do pop first

[native wave]

https://streamable.com/x19670

[deft stream]

He will need him on ch12, just not good way to avoid getting deleted by Isabella without him

[native wave]

Absolute wreck

[deft stream]

Lab store always refreshes 30 days after first lab run, is not based on month calendar

[native wave]

Lab store refreshes in 26d

[silk ibex]

Yeah you probably have enough time for both

[silk burrow]

you’d prolly have enough time

[native wave]

Maybe

[silk ibex]

Do PoP first so you start building those Garrison months

Don't do Ainz like dumb me

[native wave]

Lol, so what's wrong here?

[silk burrow]

i mean at most you’re only supposed to do like 2 months of pop

[native wave]

I put Oden opposite of Ankhira, but webbed

[silk ibex]

Hang on why is Ankhira webbing Silas of all people

[deft stream]

Oden at top, Silas middle, Mirael bottom

[silk ibex]

Doesn't Ankhira web the highest attack

[silk burrow]

take mira out tbh she aint even getting her ult off

[silk ibex]

I thought you're supposed to continue it once you get a little further into multis

[deft stream]

Highest HP

[native wave]

Ikr Mirael poor ult

[silk ibex]

Ah

[deft stream]

Nah, only one month, then hoard Dim stones

[silk burrow]

nah you’re better off doing ainzbedo later on

[silk ibex]

Which is what I'm doing rn

[silk burrow]

yeah where you’re at you should be fine to do it

[silk ibex]

Gotta card Grez Furn to 9F first tho, my Arthur and Bedo are at 3F so it's just Ainz and some SI levelling

[native wave]

Omg yes!

gg Silvina ftw!

Cool next is a boss stage... wow this was not even a boss?!

[silk ibex]

Tip to troubleshooting stages you're stuck on btw, try to pay attention to any variation in what happens with a few retry spams

If there's no variation whatsoever prolly not the right comp

Tip is to keep Daimon away from Heroes that make life hell for him, like Grezhul and Estrilda

Oh god you're not at that stage yet, you're gonna cry if you don't use Nara for those

[native wave]

What a coincidence, next boss is Estrilda...

[silk ibex]

Estrilda's still my 2nd most hated Hero

Nothing tops Tasi at this point.

[solid stirrup]

i just use lyca face tank the stun

[silk ibex]

Lyca doesn't even get stunned by her iirc?

[solid stirrup]

o idk but i also put daimon opposite side of her

[native wave]

Thanks to this the boss was easier 👌🏻

Note to self:

Always keep Daimon at bay from Estrilda

[silk ibex]

I learnt that lesson too late lol. Also funnily enough I'm currently retry-spamming an Estrilda stage

And failing miserably. The only reason she's even a problem is cause she's an overleveled statstick

@native wave Oh yeah, also helps to know what types of RNG can be with which Heroes

Enemy Arden/Ferael CCs at random, Mirael's fireballs target random Heroes

iirc Tasi's blink is also random?

[native wave]

Fera is not opposite? 0.o

[silk ibex]

He fears 3 people at once later on

[native wave]

Lv. 121 he does 3 at once mhm

[silk ibex]

@native wave Imagine fighting the best GB support in the game

[native wave]

Which is?

[rain mural]

Help me… and where should I put my characters

[native wave]

Isn't it down for maintenance? 0.o

[rapid rampart]

Yup

[rain mural]

I still need help

[silk ibex]

@rain mural Server's down for maintenance, post a screenshot of the actual enemy lineup later

[rain mural]

Oh shoot yeah that’s important alright lemme Dm you

[proven chasm]

Uhhh it should be that, if it helps haha

[trail prawn]

arden annoying

[rain mural]

Oh yes can you please show the replay?

[arctic laurel]

Need some help, this is a headache, that Isabella hits hard

[vital mist]

How to cheese this?

[spare robin]

Cheesing Ezizh teams is extremely difficult - or even borderline impossible, I'd try cheesing one of the other stages instead

[vital mist]

All have Ezizh

Lucretia does her things and Ainz goes prr

But he struggles a bit

[pale kettle]

Can someone gimme a good line up for like Story/arena

Thats my Team rn

[tepid current]

I need help with this. Cc chain is always broken. Do I need more investment?

[pale kettle]

what should i do?

[vital mist]

Wait unless you Can ascend someone

[amber beacon]

Looking for lineups to try. TIA!

[pale kettle]

Currently stuck and these are the heroes I have

[amber beacon]

I'd try
Daimon

Talene
Rowan
Thoran
Arden

[silk ibex]

Wait for 8 copies, just build up fodder for now

[silk ibex]

Daimon Ferael Lyca Nara Silas Golus Mirael Arden, all good picks. Tasi if you have an RC slot for her

[pale kettle]

Thanks just switched Arden to kren it worked

[keen abyss]

Help pleaseeeezz

[silk ibex]

@keen abyss Try

LDV

Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

[digital skiff]

Silas
Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Lyca

[keen abyss]

I ll try them both thank you two

[silk ibex]

Listen to @digital skiff he's much better than me

[keen abyss]

I think your comp sourds great too

[silk ibex]

Yeah but ch10 literally once solved a 200-attempt stage of mine with 1 comp suggestion that worked first try lmao

[keen abyss]

Your comp worked gg and thank you

[pale kettle]

@silk ibex there

[silk ibex]

np

[keen abyss]

At the first try lmao

[silk ibex]

It's the exact same comp that I use but Fera instead of LDV, I'm guessing LDV is better

[pale kettle]

Cat^^^

[silk ibex]

Does Golus survive at all if you gear him?

[pale kettle]

Golus?

[silk ibex]

@pale kettle Also did anyone warn you not to take heroes to L/L+ without being able to take them to M or was that an early mistake?

Golus = Centaur dude

[pale kettle]

Yeah early mistake lol

[silk ibex]

Gets tankier the lower his HP, can sometimes survive on good gear

[pale kettle]

Fair enough

I fell like I’m ass at this game because I don’t understand much lol

[silk ibex]

@pale kettle It's fine, learning curve, you'll get used to it

[pale kettle]

gonna take awhile. also dont understand alot of terms that people use

[silk ibex]

Such as?

[pale kettle]

like the one u said and uhh... cant remember, is it fon??

[silk ibex]

Fodder?

Or FoS?

[pale kettle]

yeah that xd. sorry im braindead

[silk ibex]

Which one lol, FoS means Field of Stars

[pale ether]

how do i win this stage?

[pale kettle]

fodder

[silk ibex]

Show full box

[silk ibex]

@pale kettle Some terminology if you wanna read through that

[pale kettle]

thanks

[silk ibex]

Do you have slots in RC?

[pale ether]

no hahaha sorry im pretty new to the game, think i use the wrong units in the RC

[pale kettle]

daimon in there???

[silk ibex]

Remove Saurus and Lucius, put Brutus and Ferael in there, you're doing well so far. I'm assuming you read the pinned guide cause you have your 5 fodder. Your choice of fodder is technically correct but all it has is damage and no utility.

For example, Arden is one of the best early game supports cause of his triple-root but you picked Ira to level up in his place. Saveas isn't a bad choice for your Mauler fodder but you need a tank and that's why the guide recommends Golus. If you didn't have Brutus you wouldn't really have a good frontline.

Brutus in RC makes up for lack of frontline since he's one of the best tanks to push campaign up till Ch30+, Ferael's the best Graveborn support and you should probably start using his Fear because you don't have Arden root

[pale ether]

wow okay this helps alot. Thanks for your help @silk ibex!

[silk ibex]

Mirael can only go in mid-back cause of her Ult. Daimon should go in the back as a carry, that's why you need a decent frontline. You also might want some CC to distract Isabelle since her Ult in campaign is absolutely busted

[pale ether]

ahhh i see i assumed mirael's ulti is whole map and daimon's suppose to tank for me. yeah my characters pretty much melts after 5 seconds into the stage

[silk ibex]

You can have both Mirael and Daimon early on but remember you only need one carry in a team. I recommend once you get the other two in RC

Ferael

Hogan/Niru
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

Swap the two frontlines if it doesn't work

Ferael will be replacing Arden as CC since you don't have him. Brutus really works to stall and he'll be relevant for a long long time

If it doesn't work try Oden and get him to teleport two people in front of Brutus so Daimon can whack from a safe distance and get more Ults off, Daimon gains more energy against multiple clumped targets

[arctic laurel]

I could really use some help here, got stuck, that Saveas eats me

[silk ibex]

Don't put Daimon frontline. He needs to Ult

[arctic laurel]

Then who should I put in there? I thought Eironn would help to pull saveas in so he dies faster but all he does is he kills my team faster lmao

[silk ibex]

@arctic laurel Golus probably. Try Oden and use this trick except with Golus. This is a tough stage. I remember early on Khasos+Saveas was a pain

Not sure what Kren can do to Saveas or if he even survives but you can throw him in for a few tries and see if he does anything

Out of curiosity who does Silvina blink to? I'm guessing not Saveas

[arctic laurel]

Ankhira

[silk ibex]

There's no Ankhira in that lineup tho

[arctic laurel]

I'm at a different stage now, sorry lol. Somehow managed to break through

[silk ibex]

Lmao, nice job

[arctic laurel]

Now I'm stuck here

Talene doesn't stay alive enough to cast her shield + heal, maybe I should be moving her in the backline too

[silk ibex]

Is Golus not working at all for you even with your best gear?

[arctic laurel]

Golus dies in 3 hits.

[pale kettle]

Lol fr even my golus is bad

[silk ibex]

Can Daimon do anything during those 3 hits? @arctic laurel

Yeah there's an awkward fall-off point for Golus around Ch12-14, and if you haven't pulled a Brutus by then it's pure suffering

[pale kettle]

I am stuck in this stage can u suggest anything

[silk ibex]

Use Rowan to distract Silvina and pull Isabelle with Nara if she's causing you problems

[pale kettle]

Yeah she is two shotting my scarlet and Mirael thanks will do

[arctic laurel]

It was about goddamn time

I'm still not sure how did daimon survive there

[silk ibex]

Golus stalled for a very long time at low HP cause of his passive, Daimon was hitting 3 people at the same time so his Ult came up really quick. He gets a shield after a brief delay after Ulting

Plus he temporarily steals the health of your enemies for his own use

[arctic laurel]

This is what happens most of the time, unfortunately

[silk ibex]

The focus is killing Golus early or making sure he can't Ult, his Ult stun is screwing Daimon over

[arctic laurel]

This is tilting

Nevermind, the same exact line-up won the next time

[native wave]

Hot damn
I'm stuck again 11-35
https://streamable.com/67o8q2

Ok you know what nvm, I just redid for the 20th time, I was lucky...

[silk ibex]

Retry spam will work eventually if the comp looks close to beating it

[native wave]

Mine was nowhere near close... Praise RNG 🙏🏻

[arctic laurel]

I hate niru with all my heart and soul

[native wave]

My new nemesis is Estrilda officially

[silk ibex]

YES JOIN US

[cursive wasp]

Hello im newbie

[silk ibex]

You'll make some new enemies soon enough

[silk ibex]

Read the pinned beginner's guide in #classic-questions

[cursive ruin]

İs this a great lineup or shoud i change something i am like a new olayer

[native wave]

Like Khasos or Estrilda...

[silk ibex]

@cursive ruin You too, beginner guide will answer your question

[native wave]

Beginner's luck!

[arctic laurel]

He's just too tanky and heals too much, that's all. Isabella needs to die as soon as the round starts

[native wave]

I don't even have Lyca or Rosaline

[arctic laurel]

Wrong reply, whoops

[cursive wasp]

Btw i played this game since the first relalese of the game but i quit and back again

[silk ibex]

He heals every time an ally dies, you either CC him and deal with him last or one-shot him before he scales

[native wave]

Yeah

Iirc I still had event Talene when I did that, my Talene ulted at least 5 times to end it

[arctic laurel]

All I need is daimon to sustain until talene revives and buffs him / ults

[native wave]

That's why it's rng, just keep trying, it's doable from what I saw in the recording

[arctic laurel]

But then niru ults, daimon dies. Rip.

I'm at 10-36

[native wave]

You have any artifacts?

[arctic laurel]

Grace and call

[native wave]

Yeah ik?
Look at my battle here lol

[arctic laurel]

Grace on daimon

[native wave]

Call should be on Daimon

[arctic laurel]

I thought 10 energy is a pretty trashy amount

[native wave]

For that extra shield, it's not

[arctic laurel]

That's why I didn't bother but I'll try

[native wave]

Let me show you, this bit here

That extra energy was what was needed and haste

[arctic laurel]

And grace on?

[silk ibex]

Call on Daimon 100% @arctic laurel

[native wave]

A tank or someone who needs dodge also hp

[silk ibex]

Grace on Tank or whoever you wanna be alive longer

[arctic laurel]

At this point, arden / oden are just silvina baits lol

They die too fast to do anything

[native wave]

Oden should live longer tbf

Game changer with that energy neutraliser

[silk ibex]

Wait till you get Rowan

[arctic laurel]

Thing is, if silvina jumps him ( and she always does ) he's 2-3 shot

[native wave]

Up his def

[arctic laurel]

I have her e+

[silk ibex]

Straight "fuck you" to Silvina's starting blink

[native wave]

Or remove def from Arden

[pale kettle]

Silvina is really annoying any counters?

[silk ibex]

Lmao, literally just talking about that

@pale kettle Rowan hard-counters Silvina

[pale kettle]

Okay

[native wave]

You should front Talene

She can die and revive in 12s

[pale kettle]

But he dies in the beginning and yeah I was trying talene in the front

[arctic laurel]

@silk ibex I need another rc slot for rowan fml

[pale kettle]

These are just random placements

[native wave]

Hahaha rc slots, always some free

[arctic laurel]

The wilders there are just for peak quest

But eironn does help with grouping for daimon lol

[native wave]

I did it with Lv. 1 wilders tbh...

[silk ibex]

Pippa's not bad but Rowan's higher priority yeah, idk if you can get much use out of Kren for this stage

[native wave]

True Eironn was a big help early on

[pale kettle]

I put my Scarlett in rc lol trying new stuff

[silk ibex]

It's a cheese, expect it to stop working around Ch14-15

[native wave]

This dude got a Scarlett?

Even doesn't work at ch. 11

If I group, they'll gangbang Daimon or Thoran

[silk ibex]

Yeah Daimon has to have a bit of investment, prolly with his SI

[pale kettle]

Scarlett is bad....?

[silk ibex]

Not sure yet since she was literally released today lol

[pale kettle]

Oh okay

[native wave]

At ch. 12 I can get him M, for now I have 5 stages blocking me to him!

[silk ibex]

You got this, I'm noticing a pattern with the last 4 stages of each chapter not being as brutal as some of the early and middle ones

[native wave]

And I did it, 4 more to go
Prince of Persia was worth it

I made Silvina Lv. 140 just for the extra oof

[silk ibex]

Like for Ch26 I don't think Tasi was in the last 4, and Tasi griefs my whole experience in this game lol

[silk ibex]

Breakpoint is at Lv141 :^)

Any multiple of 20 + 1 is a breakpoint early on

[native wave]

She was 120 before, so 121 is passive upgrade

140 for the stats

[arctic laurel]

Am I not doing enough damage? They outheal me hard

[native wave]

Swap Rowan with Lyca

As for Talene, I think she should be down front

[arctic laurel]

This was painful to watch, but I did it

Video is too big LOL

[native wave]

Nice

I told you it's doable, my Talene ult'd many times

[arctic laurel]

https://imgur.com/a/r2pN8cQ

Look at their health, I was cheering for them LOL

[native wave]

That's how rng works... 🤷🏻‍♀️

My Niru was healing constantly though, my Talene somehow got enough energy to ult continuously :x

Some serious damage...

[polar whale]

How do you see post battle stats?

[native wave]

You can't

[arctic laurel]

I just can't anymore

10-40 is cancer.

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions....please I am tired

[silk ibex]

Vedan and I think Saveas have lifesteal, Niru is Niru, only other source of healing is Daimon giving back their stolen health to them after duration

[silk ibex]

You literally just showed post-battle stats...

[silk ibex]

Bottom right, there's a small button after winning or losing

[silk ibex]

Use Arden for CC and slap some gear on Golus to stall Brutus' immune.

[native wave]

Oh? I read it as "last battle stats"

[silk ibex]

Wait till 16-32 lmao, 320 attempts for me to clear that one

I have the solutions to these difficult stages screenshotted for the most part dw

[silk ibex]

Try Oden, Arden or Rowan instead of Eironn

[arctic laurel]

Eironn is mostly there there pull that goddamn isa in

[twilit python]

stuck on 10-22, any tips?

[silk ibex]

Really nice box, anyway try

Arden

Golus
Mirael
Talene/Hogan/Thoran
Oden

Sadly you can't use Silas or Rowan since Mirael's in mid-back and she's pretty much your only carry

[twilit python]

thanks! even tho idk who is good in my box haha

[silk ibex]

@twilit python Use Ferael for your next RC slot, he's the best Graveborn support

[twilit python]

will do, ty!

[arctic laurel]

Does anyone have any good mercs? I'm bored

[silk ibex]

@arctic laurel Use Oden and see who he teleports

Try to get him to clump 2 enemies in front of Golus so Daimon can gain energy faster

Maybe move Lyca to front and Talene to back. She can take a hit or two, she doesn't need to live long at all

[arctic laurel]

Oden teleports either the top mage or vedan

[silk ibex]

Onto where?

[arctic laurel]

Thing is, daimon ults but his shield goes down instantly

[silk ibex]

Daimon doesn't have to be mid-back, try swapping him with Talene?

[arctic laurel]

He actually gets killed by the bottom mage if I do that lmao

[silk ibex]

Retry spam to see if there's a different outcome

[twilit python]

new wall. 10-24. same lineup and try again or make changes?

silvina hurts oden a lot lol

[digital skiff]

[digital skiff]

Put rowan in odens place

[silk ibex]

Got another Tasi stage for you lmao

[twilit python]

oh wow, thanks

[silk ibex]

Followed some AFKHelper ones but I think those were retry spams in the thousands lol

[digital skiff]

Daimon
Brtus
Rowan
Lyca
Oden/ fera (whichever works

[silk ibex]

Fera weapon off?

[digital skiff]

Ya, or you can

Put thoran instead of lyca

[silk ibex]

I feel like Tasi banishes faster than Fera can Fear now

I don't think I've seen Daimon not banished first

[digital skiff]

Ayo how do you have 5 mercs

[silk ibex]

Mentor

[digital skiff]

What the fuck

[silk ibex]

Mentor gives 2 Merc slots

[digital skiff]

shit

[alpine charm]

What are some good team comps to get the most out of Astar?

[digital skiff]

Asstar is pretty new

[pale kettle]

Not working :(

Tried some formations too

[mossy galleon]

Could someone please help

[silk ibex]

@digital skiff Your time to shine

[pale kettle]

Once I got very close but nuri started flying around hitting and healing I lost...

[silk ibex]

DONE

OmaFUCK I hate Tasi. I think she'd be a more balanced Hero if she was fucking removed from the game

[twilit python]

@silk ibex i just pulled lyca, does ferael still go on RC first?

[silk ibex]

Lyca's better cause of Haste, Fera can wait a while

[twilit python]

alright, new wall, i put lyca on my RC

[pale kettle]

Scarlett is doing fine but like ....I don't know what to use

[silk ibex]

Sometimes you might need to AFK or just wait for stuff

Have you unlocked the dumb Candy Crush thing? You can do King's Tower or Peaks of Time, dunno if you've unlocked the current voyage. Guild Hunt? Lab?

[pale kettle]

All of it

[silk ibex]

Maybe you can do those to pass the time, the rewards aren't bad at all

[pale kettle]

Okay

[twilit python]

is it possible to beat this or do i just wait

[rough frigate]

Been stuck 28-12 for a few days now

[pale kettle]

I cleared it thank you just had to level up some of the heroes

Scarlett pretty good I guess

[silk ibex]

Nice

[keen abyss]

I defenetly Haye Athalia

[silk ibex]

Brutus across from her to stall her

[keen abyss]

Front lane or back lane ?

[silk ibex]

@keen abyss Directly across from Athalia

[keen abyss]

Oh i see i ll try it thanks

[keen abyss]

It workeddd thank you very much

[silk ibex]

@keen abyss Yep, simplest Athalia counter early game

[twilit python]

stuck 10-40. just got daimon so not sure if i should use him over mirael rn.

[digital skiff]

How many tries

[silk ibex]

Not enough to show up on Tales surprisingly

[digital skiff]

Oden
Lyca
Mirael
Lyca
Daimon

[twilit python]

lyca x2?

[pale kettle]

Pls help I’m stuck

[safe hazel]

Retry more you shouldn’t have made daimon L btw

[zinc island]

@silk ibex the team I used to defeat that horrible stage 😍😍

Brutus was eating bullets…

[silk ibex]

Just get used to experimenting and retry-spamming and you'll be good

[zinc island]

Literally, eating every bullet alive

[silk ibex]

And yeah, now you know why Brutus can hold his own at E+ in Ch30+

[zinc island]

😍😍

[pale kettle]

I’m dying on 8-8 now

I tried 3 times

[twilit python]

3 times isnt enough lol

[pale kettle]

Bro

[twilit python]

sometimes rng sucks so u gotta do it wayyyy more

[safe hazel]

Not enough try to counter opponents as well

[pale kettle]

I die really fast tho

Like 3 or 4 are left when I die

[safe hazel]

Post stage

[pale kettle]

This?

[safe hazel]

Reset astar level Arden and replace her in formation

[pale kettle]

Arden isn’t leveled and a star in on resonating crystal

[safe hazel]

Yh astar is fine in resonating crystal

[pale kettle]

Who am I replacing with who

[safe hazel]

Level Arden reset astar and put her in crystal

[pale kettle]

Who do I get rid of on the team to use Arden or astar

[safe hazel]

Use both and experiment

[copper reef]

Hi all, just started playing and this is what I have

team I'm currently using

should I switch anyone out?

[safe hazel]

Read beginner guide in pins on #classic-questions

[ivory sable]

im stuck at chapter 24, i think my heroes are too low level but would like confirmation/guidance on what to do next

[safe hazel]

Read beginner guide in #classic-questions

You have a good enough level to push more you just need to get a better lineup

Try use Brutus more and rowan back middle will work well

[frozen harness]

yea make sure ur wishlist is up to date and pushing campaign is ur main goal for now

[safe hazel]

For you daimon rowan Albedo/shem as your backline could work and lyca Brutus is a solid frontline

[digital skiff]

Replace asstar with rowan

[ivory sable]

i put my albedo on shem soul 😭i could only use one

[digital skiff]

Definitely not underlevelled, You can hit ch27+ with 240 rc

[safe hazel]

Yh it’s fine use either or but tbh both aren’t that good for you rn

[elfin cloak]

should put rowan in back and brutus in front of daimon ig

[safe hazel]

Shem is trash and albedo wants ainz to work

Look at this for furniture wishlist as well @ivory sable

=furniture

[cloud nexus]

(23rd December 2021 - added LDV, moved stuff around)

Bok's Guide for Beginner Furniture Wishlists (PVE).
Ainz Grezhul Lucretia Mishka should stay on, even if you don't have a single copy of them. Swap the rest around depending on your current ascensions (ask if you're unsure).
Faction tower furniture are of lower priority than campaign ones (notice the arrow before LB tower). You might not want to do some faction tower furniture in favour of other modes, depending on what you're interested in.
Use red cards (aka Mythic Order Forms) on Grezhul > Ainz/Skriath/Alna/Mishka > Lucretia.

Initial furniture wishlist for beginners
Ainz 9, Grezhul 9, Lucretia 9, Mishka 9, for the remaining 6 empty slots take your pick from below depending on which heroes are closest to being Ascended
Thoran 3 or 9 (notes), Daimon 3, Raku 3, Oden 9, Silas 3, Albedo 3, Ferael 9, Skriath 3, Kren 3, Leonardo da Vinci 3, Silas 9, Kren 9, Raine 3, Leonardo da Vinci 9, Prince of Persia 3, Arthur 3, Merlin 9, Nemora 9, Alna 9 (notes), Zolrath 3, Brutus 3, Estrilda 3 (Dark Nemora TR) > Gwyneth&Morrow 3 (LB tower), Tidus 3 and Skreg 9 (Mauler tower), Eironn&Tasi 3 (Wilder tower), Desira 3 and Izold 9 (GB tower)

Notes
Thoran - 9 reduces retry RNG; I advocate going for early event 5* Call frags (after Rowan and 2 carries' +30s). If you're willing to put up with more retries, then stop at 3.
Alna - 9 deserves red cards but the problem is that she's usually the second celepog for beginners (Lucretia is usually first to be done). This means you'll only get her to Ascended after about 1 year of playing, hence her "low" priority.
If you eventually gain an interest in competitive AE (Top 100 ranks) and/or PVP, ask other people for recommendations. This guide does not focus on those.

[digital skiff]

Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Shemira

[elfin cloak]

^

[ivory sable]

thank you all i appreciate it really gonna go read the guides and try the comps

[rapid crag]

Hey I am trying on how to decide to put together my second team as I have been hard stuck chapter 32 for like 2 months. Would anyone be willing to look at my units and suggest some comps?

[safe hazel]

Post box in #classic-questions

[rapid crag]

So thats my main team and then here are the units i have to work with

Oh i thought this was the channel for this kinda help?

[pale kettle]

Astar isn’t on the team tho

[safe hazel]

Ask in #classic-questions id say

[rapid crag]

Ok ill head over there

[safe hazel]

You’re missing some important units but you’re box looks pretty good

You can go on afkhelper as well

[rapid crag]

I had originally planned to use portal party as my second team but idk cant seem to win with that comp so idk where to head from there

[safe hazel]

If you can grez should be your next hcp and get his 9F

[safe hazel]

Maybe thoran cheese but idk how big your deficit is

[rapid crag]

I outa try thoran cheese since i had him upgraded (before i replaced him with alna)

[safe hazel]

Like I said just ask in #classic-questions maybe charm is your best option or smth else I’m missing

[blissful needle]

Hi guys, can u help me with better lineup?)

[safe hazel]

pins on #classic-questions

[supple mantle]

Try something like this blue and red team

Maybe swap something around but the general idea is to let daimon hard carry (kinda cheesy) with one team and oden hard carry with a good frontline in the other

Probably change thoran tho I didn’t know what to put 2nd frontrow slot in team red (first is Rowan in front of daimon)

[polar whale]

Which 3 should I put in the resonating crystal? Trying to make some teams for the Challenger Arena thingy.

Guessing I'll just have to stick with 2 teams and pray.

[safe hazel]

read pinned guides in #classic-questions if you use the recommended supports tanks carries there you should be good

you need more crystal spots to have 3 full teams but that will come over time

[vapid wadi]

Anyone have any ideas for a good team all I wanna do is complete chapter 15

[blissful bloom]

Anyone see anything good I can make with these

[rain mural]

HELP ME MY LAST STAGE TOOK 189 TRIES

[distant plume]

Is there a way I can easier handle god comp with merlin? GB Alna was really consistent towards it without him, but now I'm not sure what to do

[mental glen]

daimon frontline isn't going to work sometimes it does which is why I suggested it

[finite tapir]

@rain mural go back to your first line-up with eiron, brutus, daimon, oden, and put thoran infront of eiron. that is your best bet imo, its what ive been doing to clear the same chapter with less combat power than you

can also try thoran infront of nara

[rain mural]

Okay

[gloomy frigate]

I would put Lyca, Brutus, Oden, Nara (if you have her) and Daimon

Oden teleports Kaz in front of Brutus

[finite tapir]

yeh lyca was a big help on some stages, sometimes you need heals too

[rain mural]

Nara does really quickly, if if she doesn’t, everyone else does

[gloomy frigate]

Nara just need to hook Tasi so she does not banish Daimon

[rain mural]

She banished oden

Lemme try lyca

[finite tapir]

i wish there was a way to go back and look at my clear... legit beat that stage 20 hrs ago lol

[rain mural]

Nope nothing worked

[mental glen]

I would start to work on rowan m to unlock si. you can try daimon 200 and oden 180. most of the afk helper clears have si10 m rowan, I think I cleared it with m rowan and m daimon too.

[finite tapir]

yeh 200 daimon clears... swap levels from oden or just wait for xp

sometimes in an afk game you just gotta wait for more resources

[gloomy frigate]

I probably used the team I suggested.. but I had ascended Daimon SI 20 at that point.. so that might be a difference

[subtle canyon]

Should I ascend anything rn?

[rain mural]

Rowan? Okay

[pale kettle]

I wanna make a GB team who should I use

[mental glen]

rowan si gives energy to the ally hero with the most energy, daimon gets energy and ults faster

[rain mural]

Is there a replacement? For Rowan cause there’s no way I’ll be able to get him M

[mental glen]

not really, rowan is pretty unique in the fact he gives energy to his allies

[rain mural]

How about for this stage

[mental glen]

I was looking on afk helper because I cannot remember how I cleared it. But I think I had shemira A, rowan M and daimon M.

Most of the clears on afk helper without rowan have daimon A

[mental glen]

brutus, daimon,ferael,rowan, oden

[sage pewter]

oden gets one tapped

[mental glen]

oh wait oden is a mage, eironn or another ranger

[sage pewter]

W

[mental glen]

nice congrats

[sage pewter]

no thank you

[rocky river]

stuck at 10-40, any tips?

[sly talon]

=engraving

[cloud nexus]

Engraving is a Hero upgrade method that further enhances their abilities and stats, available only for heroes once they're ascended to Ascended 1 Star.

Below is listed how much it costs to engrave a hero to each level for each glyph type, also listed are our recommendations for the top 6 units to engrave:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/917789215914328094/ee.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618027271906918400/930098588112007268/engravings.jpg

[rocky river]

Yea I tried some comps or atleast making it as identical to their lineups but my characters just gets bursted like its a destiny boss

[hoary dome]

Can anyone help pls

[bright sigil]

Been stuck for ages, do i really have to invest in Flora to be able to beat it?

[silent epoch]

Need tips on how to actually clear this part. Just pray to RNGesus?

5* Call on Lorsan, Pippa and Ezizh.
4* Eye on Thoran
Mage hat on Flora

[warm yew]

get 209 ainz with Albeo 300(3) and arthur 200(3) with rowan si 30 and ferael and ur set for a while

[little quartz]

Regarding losing my account, is there a section or anyone from the staff than can help me recover it?

[mental glen]

Idk too much about this but I heard it is difficult. But you should swap lorsan and ezizh I think

[subtle canyon]

Should I ascend any or keep waiting

[silk ibex]

Keep Ascending fodders, also level them instead of your 4-skill units

[subtle canyon]

Why do I need to ascend them instead of keeping them lvl1?

[silk ibex]

@subtle canyon I'm assuming you didn't understand the pinned guide

[potent tide]

Do I need more supports in here? If so who should I look for and who should I replace in my lineup

[silk ibex]

I think you need to read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions

[potent tide]

Yeah I have, I’m just not sure who to replace. Also it doesn’t mention talene

[silk ibex]

It doesn't mention her cause she's new, she needs high investment and is just gonna be another Wukong who gets reset and unused if you have her at L

[silk ibex]

You level and Ascend your fodders and put your other 4-skill Heroes in RC

[outer frigate]

Anyone have a idea on how to beat this? Lol

I've tried like 50 Lineups and this one was the most consistent in getting somewhat close.

[twilit python]

10-40

[outer frigate]

Lol if u keep going at it u should be able to win because daimon is a hard carry.

[twilit python]

damn. daimon is barely dishing out dmg though.

[silk ibex]

Try switching Oden for Arden for CC

[twilit python]

jk, daimon dishes out damage.

might have to wait til i get stronger bc nothing is rly working atm

[outer frigate]

I'm pretty new at the game myself I just know I've been relying on daimons heavy damage so far and I'm at stage 29. Lol

[silk ibex]

New

I have 240 Daimon and I'm stuck at Ch27 smh

[outer frigate]

Same here lol do u use Brutus? He saves him a little time to use his ult

I finally got a mentor to help me with alot of this stuff but she's asleep lmao

[silk ibex]

Brutus just stands there in his passive while the world burns around him lmao

Either too much CC or the other half of the fight one-shots my other 3 Heroes and collapses onto Daimon ignoring Brutus

[outer frigate]

Lol yeah but it's all u need so daimon has time to ult.

Nara is decent at like taking out one of the healers for a few seconds or someone on the back line who's powerful so not bad to use her

[silk ibex]

It's a pretty bad situation cause a lot of my Heroes are locked onto the comp, the only thing I can change right now pretty much is their positions

[outer frigate]

Yeah lol I use rowan and silas to but they don't do much rn

[silk ibex]

It's hard to deviate from Rowan, Lyca, Ferael, Daimon and Brutus

[outer frigate]

Need to get them ascended

[silk ibex]

For Rowan I think he just needs T2 Gear for dodge-machine

[outer frigate]

I literally have a impossible time getting ferael copies but I literally got everything for daimon in like a month lmao

This is him rn. Lol was told not to upgrade his skill to 30 but eh I decided to do it anyway

I'm probably not going to do his ingrave tho

[silk ibex]

I have the same problem with Grez, playing for under 2.5 months and I have all the 4 GBs Ascended except Grez at 7 copies only very recently

At one point Izold and Hodgkin overtook Grez in copies

[outer frigate]

I use to use grez as fodder 😭 I didn't know better then the mentor told me to stop lmao

I played when the hero thesku was new

Idk how long ago that was tbh

[silk ibex]

Wait did you start playing later than me

[outer frigate]

I looked it up so I've probably been playing for a month and a half

[silk ibex]

I played when Treznor was new, and that was just before Thesku

How did you even get past the barren hell that is Ch26-29

[outer frigate]

Lol

I literally would grind untill I won

I had 200 plays on acouple stages

[silk ibex]

I had 700 on one last Chapter :')

[solemn creek]

Anyone wanna help me form 5 comps? DM plz

[outer frigate]

Lol daimon was the only reason I've come far. I'm trying to get lucretia ascended now

[silk ibex]

My Lucretia's at E+ just on pure luck, I'm far from Luc comp so I'm working on Ainz comp since I get Arthur next month

[outer frigate]

Oh nice

[native wave]

Help!
Stuck 12-4
https://streamable.com/pp329t

[sly talon]

Need five team comps for multi-fight.

[silk ibex]

By any chance are you able to raise Silas' defense higher than Tasi's? Silvina might be able to force her to blink away

[native wave]

Yeah I can

I didn't think of that 🤔

Nvm 2 hit, Tasi is dead

[silk ibex]

@native wave Before even blinking? Probably can't use her then. Does she banish anyone?

[old oar]

Any Ideas

[native wave]

If I keep her alive, she banishes Brutus briefly

https://streamable.com/msvy5y

[silk ibex]

It's not Silvina that's wiping your team I've noticed. It's Isabelle

[native wave]

Yeah

I don't have anything to prevent her from doing so

Silvina wipes the cc though, plus mages

So my tanks without support, they have great sustain, but 4 v 1 with a freaking injury sapping mage... yeah no chance

[dusky estuary]

Replace Rigby with Brutus. Replace skiriath with lorsan. Swap pos of Lyca and luc.

[outer frigate]

U can put Brutus in her way. How I deal with her

[native wave]

No Brutus

[outer frigate]

Oh. Rip

If u have nara she can take out isabelle to. Or stop her for a little bit

[silk ibex]

Trick to Isabelle is to kill her before she Ults since she's currently really broken for campaign - her Ult deals way too much damage at those inflated campaign levels and it usually enough to one-shot your whole team

[native wave]

Isabella is my current nemesis!

[silk ibex]

Tasi: "Soon..."

Think one-shotting your whole team is broken? Try one-shotting your whole team, invulnerability and banishing your carry

[native wave]

Alright did it with Lv. 140 units, Silas barely survived Silvina attacks and healed a lot

[proven river]

Larson
-----lyca
Eiron
-----Brutus
Some lvl 1 hero

[winged mica]

Need help i dont know how to deal with eiron And red devil who i dont know name

[harsh urchin]

Does anyone know a lineup?

[dusty narwhal]

What can I use to pass that ?

[craggy tinsel]

help build team pls i come back after 5 months

[silk ibex]

@craggy tinsel Beginner guide in pins #classic-questions

[arctic laurel]

Any tips so I can pass this cancer?

[pale kettle]

nara opposite of isabella daimon in front behind him rowan use oden on the last backline spot

anyone?

[arctic laurel]

Tried, still slaughter

[pale kettle]

your problem is only with isabella
u need nara opposite from her
try it untill nara stun isabella and see the results

[arctic laurel]

I tried with both Nara and eironn, same results

[silk ibex]

@arctic laurel Retry spam

This game has mad RNG, don't try it a few times and think it won't work indefinitely, took me 702 tries to beat one stage in Ch26, maybe you just need a macro

[sly talon]

=engraving

[cloud nexus]

Engraving is a Hero upgrade method that further enhances their abilities and stats, available only for heroes once they're ascended to Ascended 1 Star.

Below is listed how much it costs to engrave a hero to each level for each glyph type, also listed are our recommendations for the top 6 units to engrave:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618027271906918400/917789215914328094/ee.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618027271906918400/930098588112007268/engravings.jpg

[proven river]

Oden
------Grezhul
Rowan
------Thoran
Nara(duras call)

And Eziz btw

[proven river]

Nara
------Thoran
Silas
------Daimon
Oden

[next falcon]

any tip? when lyca dies i lack dmg and cant finish solice for like 1 sec ,and when lyca lives she ults ,push back thane and make mehira turn arround....

[harsh urchin]

got destroyed

[arctic laurel]

Macro? On the phone?

[silk ibex]

Yeh

[winged mica]

Grezhul dies so fast why u suggest him front line ? Aaand i dont have nara 🙂

[arctic laurel]

No i mean, wym by macro, I didn't even knew you could do that on the phone lol

[silk ibex]

Yeah you can, you didn't expect people to do those thousands of retries manually did you lol

[arctic laurel]

That's what I'm doing? LOL

[winged mica]

I search it so much there is no iOS macro exist

But u can try to play game on PC 👍🏻

[arctic laurel]

That's what I'm doing rn ( or trying ), eironn pulls 3, oden teleports the 4th on top of the 3

[solid stirrup]

what happens if u use rowan front line instead of talene

[arctic laurel]

They survive a bit more, but daimon still not able to cast the 2nd ult

[solid stirrup]

nvm u don’t have si I’m dumb

also I like nara more than eironn just bc the GB buff tho ik most people say it doesn’t matter

what I did for those stages was get oden to tp enemy front line and have daimon target the hypogean mage on back line and win that way

so you could try having daimon oden swap? I think that would tp fat guy down and daimon targets top hypo mage

[delicate reef]

your eironn might actually die if u pull 3 though so shud give nara a few tries . also try to overlevel your daimon

[worthy island]

you can try manual and not let lyca ult if that's the case, i've done that once or twice before

[keen abyss]

Help pleaseeeee

[arctic laurel]

@solid stirrup

[solid stirrup]

daimon rowan grez thoran and mess around with it

[solid stirrup]

ok yeah so swap rowan talene I think that’ll make the brute be put onto vedan instead

[arctic laurel]

@solid stirrup look at this bs

[solid stirrup]

I’d go with daimon grez thoran rowan oden and just mess around with the positioning (mainly thoran for max fear)

[solid stirrup]

lol vedans nasty like that, but it seems like with a bit more rng u can beat it with that formation

[arctic laurel]

FUCK YOU VEDAN

[solid stirrup]

heyyy nice!

[arctic laurel]

That bit of hp left on oden and rowan made the enemy aggro them and let daimon ult again and tank for talene

[solid stirrup]

just remember that whenever there’s an isabella just put nara opposite and try to keep oden alive as well since he can do a lot

[severe mason]

Any advice on this one ?

[solid stirrup]

brutus where thoran is and daimon where brutus is

maybe swap daimon oden positioning based on how fights looking

[severe mason]

Athalia ults and kills all

[solid stirrup]

every time?

[severe mason]

Nope...sometimes oden ults her

But i still lose anyways

[solid stirrup]

I mean if it’s close and the fights aren’t exactly the same I’d prob just spam retry or you could just mess around with positioning

[mossy galleon]

Can someone help please

[severe mason]

Nvm...got ...thx

[solid stirrup]

but I’m pretty sure I beat those stages using that exact lineup

[severe mason]

Yea i kept retrying ..it worked

[solid stirrup]

👍

[arctic laurel]

Alright, I've got another 10 faction scrolls but I'm on maulers week, do I just use gems to switch back to gb and use them?

Wrong question channel whoops

[solid stirrup]

no just wait a few days the faction things change daily

[pale kettle]

Any good talene alternatives? This is the present comp I use

I am looking for aoe damage stuff I guess

[solid stirrup]

prob pretty strong for where ur at, I rlly personally like oden idk how much scarlett does

[pale kettle]

Yeah she is the reason I have come so far

Maybe oden instead of talene?

[solid stirrup]

nah

[pale kettle]

But then front row is a problem

[solid stirrup]

Rowan can also front line

cause you really only use him for the cart

[pale kettle]

Hmm I can try that

[solid stirrup]

Make sure thoran is stunning a lot of the enemy as well

[pale kettle]

I don't know why but when I use rowan in front all my heroes die quick

[solid stirrup]

Ya idk hard to say without looking but just mess around and retry the same comp a couple times since rng plays a big role

^unless it’s not even close

[pale kettle]

Hmm okay

I guess I will be stuck for a few days without talene

[severe mason]

Is it possible ?

[solid stirrup]

ye

O I was gonna suggest ferael for cc and hope that it stops banish but maybe nara cc can stop it?

[severe mason]

So nara for who ?

[pale kettle]

anyone?

[solid stirrup]

Could try rowan, I didn’t rlly use him much for most stages 25-26

[fallen garden]

I just started the game and this is all i got from the giftcodes but what line up should i use?

[solid stirrup]

Read pins in questions and follow

[fallen garden]

I tried to understand the pinned document but i still not really know

[solid stirrup]

Level wukong more than the others

And use him as carry for now

[fallen garden]

Okay ty

[pale kettle]

no one?

[pale kettle]

thanx

[pale kettle]

Pls help I’m hard stuck

[silent moss]

arden
daimon
mireal
wukong
astar

[pale kettle]

I am stuck at this stage any recommendations? Can't use nara rn cuz she is not high levelled

[pale kettle]

In this order?

[polar whale]

Would you move Talene frontline and go with another support? Asking for both PvE (Campaign/Floors) and PvP (Arenas)

[silent moss]

no the order i typed and showed for you above with my response

[silent moss]

drop thoran and use your talene trial

[pale kettle]

I am trying not to rely on her cuz she will be gone tommorow

[silent moss]

use her while you can no point in not

[pale kettle]

Ok

[silent moss]

drop grez move talene front then slot in daimon

[pale kettle]

Holy it worked thank you u r a genius

[safe hazel]

Read beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions

[polar whale]

Yes yes, I have, my question was tailored to this particular situation.

[pale kettle]

Now I’m stuck at 8-16

[safe hazel]

Why are you using Lucius then he’s horrible

[safe hazel]

Use Brutus instead of Lucius and make sure your wishlist is set to the one in beginner guide

[polar whale]

He's done as fine a job as anything else I have tanking, and provides the LB buff.

[safe hazel]

Hes bad dw about fac bonuses

[polar whale]

I just got Brutus back to back almost, going to resonate crystal him next chance I get.

[safe hazel]

From where?

[silent moss]

sometimes retries are needed this game is heavy rng if you can level your daimon some more

[safe hazel]

Switch Arden and daimon then replace Arden with hogan

[polar whale]

I believe one was default from completing a stage, the other just random drop from the tavern.

[safe hazel]

Set your wishlist it’ll make a big difference

[polar whale]

I have.

[safe hazel]

And use elite cards only GB

[winged mica]

Athalia hitting one shot daimon 🙈

Need help guys 26-60 pls i wanna be 27

[safe hazel]

Brutus instead of thoran should work or just wherever athalia is attacking

[winged mica]

Yeap i tried it too 😦

[silk burrow]

switch daimon and rowan change thoran for brutus try replacing tasi with oden

[winged mica]

Let me try 👍🏻

[silk burrow]

switch thoran and rowan and keep lyca where she was

[severe mason]

Possible?

[winged mica]

X30 fail now even close:((((

[winged mica]

Yeap i did

[lean furnace]

Hi I love graveborn but wondering what should I switch and what to focus on for campaign this is my team for now like what would I have to switch

[safe hazel]

make sure you've read beginner guide in #classic-questions GB (graveborn) is strongest faction is strongest faction in the game btw just don't ascend shemira she's trash

daimon is best early game carry just make sure to set wishlist to one in pins in #classic-questions and follow the progression guide there

[lean furnace]

oki

[safe hazel]

if you have any questions feel free to ask

[lean furnace]

will do

[arctic laurel]

Tips for beating the cringe healing here? I can't outdamage

Tried Nara pulling Nemora, not working

Nevermind, oden back mid, Nara back top, managed to deal

[solid stirrup]

ezizh :( pls help

[winged mica]

Can u help me 26-60 how did u pass ?

[solid stirrup]

Pretty sure I used grez instead of thoran and dropped rowan for ferael

if u add me can u see my replay? I’m not sure

[winged mica]

I dont know 😄 send me your id 😅

[solid stirrup]

137122952

[winged mica]

Thx

[solid stirrup]

added u, lmk if u can see ig

[keen abyss]

I need help again 😅

[pale kettle]

halp

[winged mica]

Yeap i can see clearly

[mental glen]

um everyone is placed in the wrong position.
pippa
thoran
lorsan
flora
ezizh

[pale kettle]

following what @drowsy gazelle did

[mental glen]

hmm interesting does pippa teleport thoran?

[pale kettle]

yea? why wouldnt she

[gloomy lagoon]

Who to use for graveborn team for now?

[mental glen]

try these artifacts

[final hazel]

Let the wilder guy suck her up

[gloomy lagoon]

Who to use for graveborn team?

[bold igloo]

Pls help;-;

[slender ibex]

Is there something I'm doing wrong here I've been retrying this forever

[bold igloo]

show artifacts