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Ye thats why its consume so much time meanwhile red chest is important and you can do beat hard stage in 1 punch using

Since you have daimon .. you can tank with brutus and rowan ...
Alna Grezz thoran arthur is gud tank rn
And its catchable
Just focus on daimoning make him ascended
Yeah I have grezz. I just can’t take him to leg+. Stuck at epic+
I am right now yeah
Ye dont make legendary if you lack of copies
I might just have to wait two days to get a merc to help me
You shud ascended any heroes if you have enough copies cus it wud be open wishlist pull
No matter how useles they are
I mean hero choice pack xD
What do you mean?
@raven egret
And that’s from getting one ascended?
1 ascended = 1 choice
5 ascended = 2 choices
@raven egret check on here ita on library
Working on ascending daimon
What can I change to optimize against this boss?
what boss is that?
Twisted realm burning brutus
check leaderboard and copy
for TR just merc the damage dealer and usually the supports can work at E
you can usually get legend every time if you copy leaderboard
how you short term a hero
have you loked at beginner wishlist on #classic-questions ?
I've glance at it and copy it
make sure to stop making L+ heroes that aren't fodder*
👌
Any help with this?
daimon
>brutus
rowan
>lyca
oden/talene
Oh yeah I forgot about resetting her. Thanks!
Need help with creating 5 teams for campaign, 5 for HoE and 3 for Arena of hero’s
Tried that for hours. I finally beat it by garrisoning PoP
Any advice for my lineup? I’ve tried a few combos and it’s like throwing myself against a wall. I think it might be my gear as well?
look at pinned guide in #classic-questions
Alright. Thanks
Trying to beat my servers whale, almost 100 level deficit. Is it possible? His investments are extremely odd
2 weeks now, I can't pass theses two anyone to figure what is wrong ?
I'm doing the same lineup as on Afkhelper With the same lvl
Edit : thoran no chest
RED PEGGY?
Cant beat this stage should i just wait to level up my characters more or is there other stuff i can do in the meantime
swap rowan and mirael then swap rowan with kelthur
then swap talene and lyca
Lyca in the front line?
yh lyca doesn't do much damage early game and she is used to provide haste and energy then die
Well now i think im just being dealt too much damage
And gotta wait for more levels
do talene event btw you get like 20M xp plus
and it goes down to your level so you can just get a merc or use the lineup you currently have and get free xp
Do you mean the arena of trials one
nah the A Flame Reborn one
do the arena of trials one as well since you use your guildmates heroes and it's very easy
With the flame reborn is 500 of the orange orbs enough to do everything or is there a way to get more
yh that's more than enough
It is very long though I'll send the map here if it helps @slim spindle
Thank you
just defeat all the boss stages and you clear it and collect feathers*
you don't have to beat all the mini fights
Should i be going for all the chests too
you can yh but you can get them after all the fog clears as well it's up to you
read beginner guide in #classic-questions pls
So the main goal is just attack the source of inner demons
yh and then once you beat the bosses and collect feathers all the fog goes away what server are you btw @slim spindle
it helps a lot if you read it properly
942
Which specific part?
the wishlist predominantly
and the fact you need to stop ascending A tier heroes past E+
I've read it, I don't get it
@native wave You have too many Heroes stuck at L+
for a lineup id recommend
daimon
>brutus
nemora
>estrilda
ferael
what do you not get
Because I'm not getting dupes, that's why they're stuck L+
@iron latch this wishlist is top 5 prios for each fac
exactly why you don't get them to L+
You're spreading your fodder too thin by ascending everything as soon as you can instead of planning ahead like this
explain what do you not understand about this @native wave
Exactly this
to go from L+ to M you require an L+ hero
Why shouldn't I ascend to L+?
If I don't ascend, they'll be stuck at 140 or below
thats why you ascend fodder heroes to 160
the only ones safe to ascend to M early game are rowan and daimon
Which are the best lightbearers?
So what do I do?
rowan and raine
Do not ascend when I get dupes?
5
stop ascending any heroes past E+ then build fodder heroes
You're wasting fodder on Ascending everything as soon as possible instead of waiting for 4/8 copies to get them to Mythic or Ascended in one go. When the time comes and you do have enough copies everything will be stuck cause you don't have fodder to Ascend anything
make fodder heroes to L+ arshy
This is the early game deathtrap for a lot of new players
Which are?
is your daimon L or L+?
L
fodder tier heroes are the legendary tier heroes
Saveas?
There are Heroes that cap out at L+ instead of A, and only have 3 skills. They're considered fodder.
their lowest tier is rare and they can be ascended to L+
They're the blue rarity Heroes you get
yh saveas is one
I meant best light. team
for LB tower?
Alright so I don't ascend A tiers, but rn what do I do?
For all
@native wave Did you follow the guide in #classic-questions
you don't want to make a full LB lineup they are worst faction in the game
@native wave That doesn't really explain why everything's Ascended to L and L+ tho
(Last updated: 9th December 2021 - added Eironn and Framton to supports) I’m Bok#8372 on Discord. This guide is meant to complement Phoenix’s Beginner Guide in the official AFK Discord #questions channel (https://discord.gg/wFHwpaU3Tn). It is for the period where you’re levelling 5 heroes up t...
don't send that one too much info for a beginner
picture one is much easier to comprehend
Im doing a lb only
@safe hazel Stop sending that image guide to new players. I've been watching players screw up so much, it's not enough to fix what he's done
it is
if they read the guide properly they will understand everything
I don't understand... ?
Then why are his Heroes at L/L+? Obviously there wasn't enough emphasis on why you shouldn't always Ascend everything you can
there is nothing in Bok's guide the picture one doesn't cover and they can ask questions if they don't understand
he didn't read the guide before
The guide doesn't specify anything for my situation
so look at this if you take a hero from e+ to L you are stuck waiting for two copies
@safe hazel Stop. Sending. It.
so you are wasting two e+ fodder on it
you do realise most beginners will give up if you send them a detailed essay on a mobile game
rn you change your wishlist to the one on pins
I have Daimon L, Brutus L+, Rosaline L+
then you try to push campaign KT PoT and try and fix your roster and do 10x summons
I already did that fgs
send your box and the stage again
you should be able to beat it with the lineup I sent
do
daimon
>brutus
nemora
>estrilda
ferael
maybe athalia instead of ferael
Why Estrilda?
best tank after brutus since lucius is trash
Lucius a moderate-investment backline tank iirc?
Oh? I was investing into Lucius this is tragic...
i think fera/athalia will help him more then lucius though
I mean keep what you have for now just don't ascend anyone and slowly try and change your roster there's not much you can do since it's an afk game
however anyone who is L+ can go to M since you have already wasted fodder on them
Also is it better to use Fawkes for a Brutus counter or... ?
idk I doubt it though
but remember buy arthur from Lab store and LDV from chall store
Fawkes ult removes his buff?
but he doesn't do as much damage as others and that will usually not change the outcome of the fight
@native wave make sure you're not buying athalia from store not worth it
I forced it from ch. 12 to 14 with Fawkes as counter for Brutus though
Any better option?
I mean if it works sure but usually backline you want
daimon
rowan
Crowd Control (CC)
but since you didn't have beginner wishlist your A tier heroes are different than usual
CC? Like Tasi?
yh tasi would work
I have beginner wishlist
I merely returned after a while
this is an example of early game daimon comp
what server?
S376
ask in #classic-questions if you should restart I think
Prince of Persia?! Since when lmao
dimensional lol
@native wave you can continue on that account but you may lack resources like chall coins from that server maybe post your box and ask the people in #classic-questions they are more knowledgeable then me
Alright
im a bit stuck at stage 10 rn, any reccs?
im using daimon, eironn, rowan, aster and estrilda rn-
Hi, stuck from 3 days at 20-12, any ideas/advices? Thanks 😊
Stuck at 12-38!! Help any tips
Priority list of strongest LBs to weakest, just set your WL like that, unless you're a really experienced player who made an Alt to do LB only for fun
I really like your box cause it does everything right
Show the stage btw
I do for fun but I’m no a really experienced player but okay i guess
Ok
Start with Rowan/Morrow/Raine/Rosaline/Estrilda with 1 copy of Cecilia then
Okay see you in a week
@royal oyster Try
Oden
Lyca
Daimon
Brutus
Arden
Ok thanks!
you will get bored quickly if you want you can do a GB or a wilder account
Maybe
but that still takes some lineup knowledge + Rng
What should i focus on?
If you're doing LB only probably Morrow A and Rowan M with SI30 I guess, maybe ask in #classic-questions
Oaky
Sure
r1, low rng kren go brr
r2, i had this work, but if it doesnt just try the other 4 man clear
r4, this round sucks, lyca needs to live for a long time
Thank you
Btw whats the first Team called ?
idk thats just my go to kren comp but i really love the name Mona Lisa for LDV centric comps
ty to @primal jolt for that one 
Makes sense lol
Hi guys. Been stuck on this for a couple of days now. Any suggestions? Seems the healing and initial damage is too much.
Hi I’ve been stuck on this lvl forever now. I would really like if someone could help me
If you can then Dm me. Thank you
Daimon
Golus
Mirael
Wukong/Hogan
Arden/Tasi
Also dude you need to correct your leveling. 5 fodders up to L+/lv 160
Dont ascend anyone else past E+
Ummmmmm
Can you explain
Pls
Umm confused
Check pinned guide on #classic-questions
Use Golus and wukong in the front lines then daimon mirael (middle back) tasi/arden at the back
swap daimon and silvina then swap silvina with nara
awk talene might also help as well
Will try! Also thanks for your suggestion earlier. It's so close but not quite 😅 my Talene trial has expire unfortunately, but I pulled one and plan to put her on RC
yh i think you need awk talene it looks you don't have a silvina replacement otherwise your comp is perfect for early game your going in the right track
Want me to use tasi? And who is mirael?
replace wu kong with mishka swap golus for tasi
Ummm ok
you can swap daimon and tasi if that helps as well
Didn’t work
Finally finished it with:
Daimon
Hogan
Mirael
Lyca
Nara
What a relief. Thank you for your help!
Sometimes you need to try a few times cos rng. Also swap them around
Ok
GJ
don't retry just once rng is a big thing in this game so do at least 4-5 retries
Who should I replace to squeeze more survivability to deal more overall damage?
Better question how did you get so good
Mercenary deals the most damage there. 😅
Give it a month and you'll get there. 🙂
isn't lucrieta way better than saurus here?
Who is the best hero
5 retries is nothing
It is to me
I saw Screenshots with 20k retries
Not sure but I guess I'll try to merc for a Lucretia.
I mean early game not as much rng + idk if he wants to retry large amounts
@digital skiff Got a solution to this one? Once again overleveled Estrilda is being an asshole
True but 5 retries in early game is still nothing
I retried an early chapter 320 times, 5 really is nothing lol
Is there a retry counter in-game?
really ig i need to start retrying more then lol
I usually give up after 10-20 retries
it says it in your tales after a lot of tries
50 or 51
Thank you!

22-26 after 94 attempts lol
not that bad
@silk burrow Want me to send you box for this one? Estril is most a problem for me when she's overlevelled like in this stage, I don't really know why I'm pushing so hard tbh, I feel like my Daimon is close to being able to hit Ch30 but stages like these give me a headache
Yeah, ch10scum is a god at stage clears lol
I swear I was stuck at a stage for 200 retries and they gave me a comp that cleared it first try lol
@silk burrow Here you go
Tbh this game is more like a puzzle game at this point than an Idle RPG or whatever the genre's supposed to be
can you send the stage one again im too lazy to scroll up and down lmao
@silk burrow
why don't you just swap rowan for lyca
and then swap brutus and lyca
I mostly use Daimon/Fera/Oden/Rowan/Brutus/Lyca yeah, Nara extremely situational
I can already guess what'll happen but I'll entertain the suggestion lol
uhh
oden
brutus
rowan
lyca
daimon
Yep. As predicted lol. @safe hazel Estrilda charges Daimon at the beginning and chunks him down to 10% HP and he gets killed before he can stand back up
did you put brutus in front of daimon?
try switching lyca and brutus aswell
@safe hazel She charges through everything in front of her, she doesn't just stop at Brutus
do what @silk burrow said
That's the problem with putting Daimon anywhere near Estrilda
Could be doable with that, I'll retry spam for a bit
Didn't see the actual kill but it worked with Lyca and Brutus swapped from the original, thanks @silk burrow

Any suggestions?
check pinned guides in #classic-questions for a lineup i'd go:
belinda
>brutus
safiya
>lyca
awk talene
Swap brutus and rowan
@digital skiff Oh I cleared that one, now I'm stuck on this one
Which characters should I be using?
read guide on #classic-questions
ideally you should be using mirael carry or daimon carry
Again, swap brutus wit lyca
Oden wit daimon
Any help ?
Trying to beat my servers whale, almost 100 level deficit. Is it possible? His investments are mostly extremely dumb.
desira in ainz team for ezio. pop for safiya in 5pull and maybe ezio for lyca then
Which people should I use
read beginner guide
at that stage powerlevelling wu kong is best
Bro he always dying first tho
not if you level him instead of thane
reset all heroes except 5
preferably you should keep wu kong mirael daimon astar arden
rickety cart
where can I find the beginners guide ?
#classic-questions check pins
ty
if you have any questions free feel to ask me
thank you 😄
np
What are the best Heros I should focus on ? ( I am f2p )
wu kong level 1-100
daimon is the best carry from ch1 to ch30/31
Is there a good tier list somewhere ?
tier lists are not accurate the wishlist on beginner guide is basically top 5 heroes in all the 4 main factions tho
for you in early game daimon is basically S+
okay ty 😄
np just don't take A tier heroes past e+ and you should be rolling through campaign
What is this supposed to mean " Grab a copy of these heroes using slot 5 of the wishlist (get a Lyca first though) ?
so slot out the 5th hero on wishlist for that hero but get an e copy of lyca first
so all 3 factions apart from wilder you sub out the 5th hero and put in that hero to get them at E
what does E mean ?
Elite
oh okay
that is the base ascencion of A tier heroes and a lot of supports can work at this ascencion
@safe hazel do I focus on upgrading monkey man and get his max skill
ty @safe hazel
yh
I have 1077k xp for all 5 of my characters so what should I level my monkey guy to
level monkey man so that all the other heroes are 20 levels below him
Ok I’ll try
once monkey man reaches 100 reset him and level others
also don't buy monkey man from lab store only buy arthur from there
What about Shemira, how good is she ?
trash don't use her
okay
Who is the best hero
@safe hazel did I do it right
yeah combine your rares to rare + btw gj tho you should be able to push campaign easily like that
make sure you have wishlist from beginner guide though @pale kettle
since your hero pool looks weird
Can someone help me
Can someone help me get a good team
send your hero box and the stage
Was that the right wishlist
Ok
Bc the image in pins I don’t understand but that’s what I got from YouTube man
In dm?
here
that's very bad wishlist go on #classic-questions and look at wishlist on beginner guide
your hero pool will affect your hero progression a lot so it's best to stick to the one in beginner guide @pale kettle
read beginner guide if you haven't btw
I have
The image? Or the links
Both
image one is fine but the others go into more depth
Help
wait so did you get wu kong from lab store or elite soulstones?
Ummm when I joined there was a event where if you invite someone I think you get him
Idk tbh
yh it was the share one did you buy him from the store to make him e+ though?
for a lineup i'd do
nemora
>estrilda
tasi
>mishka
daimon
Yea
always buy arthur from lab store
People say he’s bad
no everyone says he's good early-midgame he's just seen a decline due to LDV coming out but that's very late game
Oh ok
but regardless he's still the best option to buy for lab coins early game
So this is my lineup?
yeah stop making L A tiers as you probably know if you've read the guide
maybe golus instead of mishka though
and you can swap tasi and nemora if that doesn't work
Ok
None of them worked
@safe hazel
Where do I put who
you sure you retried enough times?
swap mirael and astar then swap arden and wukong
looks like you should reset wu kong and level mirael
Thanks I'll give it a go
Put daimon back line
Yes
Why
wu kong is trash past 100 mirael is good
then you can place mirael back middle and get rid of tasi/nemora
How do I deal with ezizh blocki my my ult and Tasi banishing me?
You sure
yea wu kong is useless no need to take him above E he doesn't even want to be on crystal
Btw mirael is only elite +
Ok
@safe hazel if I lvl up mirael to max she will only be lvl 100
Also what should my team be
I thought you said she was e+?
e+ goes to 120
She is
nemora/tasi
>estrilda
mirael
>brutus
daimon
thesku is bad and astar is a good healer + damage dealer
post your box again idk who you have
Ok
but is that from elite shards or summons cuz those shouldn't be on your wishlist
I can show you my wishlist
why'd you take daimon off crystal?
How do I combine
temple of ascencion 3 of same rares make rare +
For some reason it went back to lvl one so when I get a open space again I’ll put him on the crystal again ur for now I leveled him up to max
can you get mishka to 120 as well?
try that now then it should work
It did
otherwise aim to make mirael L+
oh ok make sure your wishlist is set to the one in the beginner guide on #classic-questions
I can’t
i cannot tell you how important this is for your progress
I meant eventually
Lol
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568025210498842633/931638309862670376/image0.jpg how do I deal with ezizh and Tasi together
Can anyone help me with 13-36? Estrilda one shots me and I've been stuck a couple of days
have you read beginner guide?
Kind of
daimon
>brutus
rowan
>lyca
kren could work
maybe eirron instead of rowan but @inland light stop making ascending A tier heroes past elite+
don't ascend anymore of them unless you get 8 copies and makes sure to copy the wishlist as that is very important
I just dont agree with that
wdym
Who shouldnt have i made?
all your M heroes except daimon and rowan
unless they are at 6/7 copies rn but i doubt that's the case
if you constantly make M heroes you start to lack fodder for your other heroes
you have to remember that gems and summons slow down due to progression slowing down at around the point your at
and copies are also very RNG which is a major downside to making M heroes
M daimon and M rowan are good choices though you shouldn't regret doing those since that is recommended @inland light
Halp pls
I mean ill need kren eventualy and i dont plan to build anyone else in that faction so i dont think thats hurting me
yes but it doesn't matter what you want to build since to break crystal cap you need 5A
Making silas m helped me push 3 chapters
you probably didn't need it though daimon and rowan will get you very far
like this formation will probably work @inland light
I mean thanks for advice but i gave up playing optimaly very early on since its way to stressfull for me, i just play more casualy and just like combining heroes, i dont expect to make it very far very fast but i dont mind that
i mean what you've done isn't very bad most are meta heroes so you'll be fine
just if you carry on like this you will defo be stuck since fodder slowly starts to become the problem for you
Can someone help me maybe? For stage 13-36
stuck on 12-24
Any way for me to beat this? I have 2 crystal slots available
Should not be very hard, try lyca daimon, ferael prince rowan @naive remnant
This is basically my ainz comp currently just fera instead of Nara who would I replace with Arthur?
@brave oriole do I get rid of Brutus or do I put albedo back line and get rid of fera or daimon?
Well, move ainz down from there. Leave Brutus ferael front, and Backline albedo lyca ainz , try to see how's going @safe hazel
Why do I get rid of ainz?
Oh yh nvm I’m just blind
Lyca haste helps, just athalia may be hard to stop this stage, deppends how fast ainz ult
Seems to let ainz ult once but not enough damage
Usually daimon is my sub dps and ainz cleans up with ult or ults twice at low deficit
I think I need to get albedo +30 and I’m good
Ok ainz frontline worked lol thx for that comp though albedo backline was the strat
@safe hazel well, its hard to tell exactly, but sometimes it just needs a small adjustment
Brutus it's good when there's heavy dps as saveas, other than that u can replace it for other fights, u can keep rowan behind I guess, and sacrifice lyca Frontline, as about ainz artifact, I've used eye on early
Yh true I can’t get use out of rowan
I’ve been using call on ainz is that not better? @brave oriole
Well, it deppends, eye gives some pr crit etc, I liked it more, so I could use call for rowan daimon etc. Too many calls have a diminishing effect, not sure on how many stars
On one star I don’t really use rowan since he’s only E+
It helps still
Put it back of ainz
So try a team with lyca ainz front, by situation up down, and rowan back of ainz daimon middle and albedo
Sometimes just use Brutus instead of lyca if too heavy dps, a few sec helps
If ainz dies, daimon should finish them anyway
Dam bro you pinged me for this!!? I’m sitting here scrolling to receive some formations. 😭
Saw someone 50 rc levels lower clear 279 lt with this comp, only real difference being their morrow had 9f.
I'm 80+ retries in, various comps, can't seem to get it. I don't have 3f estrilda or an invested shield guy yet
Any advice?
Pretty much a gwyn bel stage, it's a shitty stage
I remember that I had gwyn with Rosa front down, rowan middle and ive forgot the rest
As about the shield guy, he doesn't need any investment
They're all shitty.
Its LB tower 
Try to see Rosa rowan, fawkes Lucius/something else gwyn
Should Rosa be on gwyn?
Fawkes I remember that coffined kelthur and slowed antandra, middle I had maybe Lucius on my fight
Yeah, follow gwyn
Wait for faction towers you need to actually build heroes? I thought it was just pick 5 best heroes from each faction and go
It's hard to have 5 good heroes of the same faction built 
Lbs are the most ones that doesn't fit together as a faction 
Like it keeps almost working and then everyone dies instantly lol, and I can't get fawkes to coffin Kelthur no matter where I put him
Maybe he's too low acc so kelthur dodge it
who do i put on my RC, i have wukong carry
Well, the best it's one hero from each faction, bcs it's the easiest
I mean he's coffin'ing people just the wrong person lol
Who ever u want to build l+ as fodder
It's a shitty stage, u would need a +30 gwyn maybe. I will see if I can find my ss with the stage
yeah I just can't get it, this is my last stage before I'm 280+ an all 4f, and I'm pretty sure I can hit 300 on the other 3, hoping that Scarlet helps carry
@rotund idol I could only find an old ss from my main, but I will look for the alts ss too
YOOOOO that didn;t work but I swapped belinda for morrow and that worked 2nd try
tyty
Possible?
Brutus back/middle, farael front/top
@safe hazel
What team should I run for my chapter (in my name)
send stage
What should I use for the event?
There
WHY DO YOU HAVE THAT MANY HEROES LEVELED UP??
Cuz I was new and dumb
Go to the rickety cart
I’ve already been flamed by the people in the question chat just tell me what line up I should use for the circus event
Please and thank.you :)
I’m pretty new I suck lol
But your wasting valuable recourses doing that stop being stuck up and stubborn and got reset them
Just use random team it doesn’t matter about damage just doing the fight you get the rewards
Rip. Try skreg talene oden rowan daimon
Lmao
@ocean pawn who gets what artifacts
Oh okay
Eye oden call daimon grace skreg and rowan talene blade
Idk then sry
any way i can beat this ?
@beNca√#1337
Try
Brutus thoran
Daimon rowan silas or
Daimon thoran
Lorsan silas nara/lyca
Who’s a better support? Raine, Gwyneth, or Mirael?
Gwyn and mirael are primarily carries, so naturally raine
Kk, thanks man
This is my current Lineup and all my current cards, any tips or ideas on how to make it better?
I suggest following what all beginner guides say: focus on getting 5 fodders to L+ and lvl 160 and don't ascend A-tier past E+
Best solution?
@zinc island @ruby helm Best to follow this first
K
Pls dont upgrade to leg tier if u dont have enough for ascended
Yeah, I know that now
I’ve been stuck on this for a couple weeks, how should I beat this?
Any recommendations for general progression?
I think I might add Rosaline, Morrow if its good
Where are your wilder fodders
On the way to do so
On mauler
Wait dont make l+ mauler
Why?
Safiya is not for fodder
Ur missing one more e+
How many copies of rowan do you have?
2 copies
Yea you cant do much about than just level mirael which ur not be using coz u have daimon l+
What ch are you on
Now 12-17
But I think I can push a little further
Ahh stuck at 12-21 with this team
Any suggestions for the ideal king tower pushing team ? I can get alna to 9/9 at any point if needed
Im in the early game but im looking for a good comp i can start building early
For real though, I'm struggling with 15-40. I've been on it for about a day now, tried anything I could think of. Anyone have advice?
Any idea for this fight? tried with arden and everythingg and just cant beat 
Hi! I just started the game yesterday, and I was wondering a good team comp with the heroes I have. Can anyone recommend a good team?
Thoran cheese basically
This is good
Can’t seem to beat it no matter my combos I try
Can someone help me creat a good team?
Silvina
>awaken talene
Mirael
>daimon
Ferael
Antandra
>Lucius
Wukong
>Awakened Talene
Flex (Brutus or daimon)
never do that
Make sure to hardly ascend anyone save those fodder and E+ for people that will be good later on. Try to focus on daimon. Brutus good at E+ for a while.
I would check out the beginner guide in #classic-questions . You only need to level up 5 heroes because of resonating crystal
I didn’t catch that. @worldly hearth you need to reset those hero’s and put more levels into your good ones.
Which ones do you recommend resetting
The only 5 you should have levels in rn are Lucius talene antndra daimon and maybe hogan
Everyone else doesn’t need levels rn. Reset everyone except those 5.
Then slowly start putting your stronger hero’s into the Chrystal. Notice my screenshot above. Only 5 have white levels the rest are Chrystal
I’m doing a lb only
This is ok?
Yes that should get you a good ways through the early game
Alright, awesome! Thank you so much 😊 🙏
Of course! I’m still new ish to the game so some of these guys will help you a lot better if you need more in depth guidance
any help just starting the game what would be the best starting team i could make
Read guides in pin
Daimon and Pipps is actually pretty good
I have a processing and reading disorder half that guide makes no sense to me 
Focus on daimon for sure. Don’t waste A tier hero’s to ascend other hero’s. Only use fodder
I learned that the hard way
Very bad your better off getting resources to take rowan to + 30 if you wanna do LB only
I’d do dimensional + LB as well cuz I remember seeing a Reddit post of gwyneth and PoP working to like ch 30
is this okay? or should i reroll in another server?
Have you looked at beginner guide in #classic-questions
no im not really beginner im kinda like early mid
even if i have id rather just ask here since you guys know what you're talking about
just follow the guide and dont rush and rerolling isnt advisable
alright
The guide has a good wishlist which basically makes rerolling useless that’s why it’s advised to follow
alright
I have these and 3 available spots in my crystal, what should I bring to the circus?
Can i create any good team comps with these
I really need help pleaseeeee
Read beginner guide first of all
But for a lineup best one is probably daimon rowan LDV lyca Brutus
i ve already read it i really tried my best 🥲
How do you already have LDV I’m curious
i m an old player
I’m at 22-60 rn
Oh ok just abuse LDV plus daimon backline and you should be good
Rowan back middle is very good as well
Swap Arden and rowan
Swap Arden and rowan
If that doesn’t work then swap daimon and Arden and replace Arden for your best tank
@safe hazel should I swap anyone out?
Keep levelling wu Kong to 100
Keep the other at 60?
Depends you can ride the rest to 80
Zi just got this guy and I think he was on wishlist so do I change him out with anyone
Put on crystal
Wait for another spot
Is there any other way to get xp other than story
yea afk, events
you'll get many of them eventually
Xp is easy to obtain from the talene event dust will probably be more of an issue
Read the pinned guide in #classic-questions, don't level more than 5 Heroes
Easier to send them a screenshot of the "If you have Daimon" leveling progression imo, they shouldn't be leveling both Wukong and Daimon
Where is the talene event
Can someone help me with a stage
Nah wu Kong is better than daimon until 100
On the left hand side it says a flame reborn
Send ss
Thank you
And how does that help the fact they shouldn't be leveling Daimon and Wukong at the same time?
daimon is better
wukong is a consistently acquirable option though
Can I put a picture in here for help because I'm stuck right now on a stage
yes
Is he not better pre 100?
Oh wow I thought daimon was worse cuz his skills aren’t unlocked a lot and wu Kong has some nice dodge stats
Any tips? Stuck at 20-12
Do you have Nara? From my experience you either pull Shemira or Isabelle and have Daimon fight the other. Oden also makes it easier. Play around with the positions a bit. Thoran's revive Fear can combo nicely with Nara in some stages when it comes to stopping Isabelle Ult
Try nemora instead of gwyn and lyca instead of thoran
Nemora charm may help if fera fear is a big issue
Haven’t got Nara, I got like 10 Shemira but 0 fodders.. and also I got already 6 daimon but waiting for fodders for him!
Yeah fear is destroying my oden 😅 I’ll try tho, thanks!
@willow kraken Try getting Oden to put Grezhul in front of Brutus, and keep Grezhul as far away as possible from Daimon since he nerfs him
Swap ainz and Arden then swap lyca with Arden
What do I do here?
@stoic lynx try to cc safiya with nara or athalia and see how's going
Dying mostly to the red top right
I tried using lyca where kelthur is but to no avail
If i switch with the red she just focuses my talene and no one goes for her
Hey is it good to upgrade astar to S30 9/9?
Nvm i beat it by putting mezoth where lyca is
just wondering, can i get a good lineup for campaign/arena defence?
@slim spindle @topaz condor Fix your wishlist to the one in the pins of #classic-questions, and read the other pins before asking for help otherwise people won't care because you ignored information that is widely available
My wish list is already set to the ones at pins
I also already beat it so idm
Just fyi, out of the couple E+ gb heroes you have, you have almost no high priority heroes but instead have kelthur and torne
Otherwise, your celepogean luck is really good so far :o
Celepogean?
You are doing a good job with ascensions too, just keep ascending the 5 fodder heroes
Celestial and Hypogean, you have 2 by chapter 8, thats pretty lucky'
Ah
If you get daimon, I would highly recommend using him, he is an insane carry
Im doing the ascendings if only the game would give me more rares honestly
Rares and summons will come with time and chapter pushing
Are you only using factional summon scrolls and cards on gb?
Yea
Mkay, just keep doing that and pushing with time 👍
Yeup, thats perfect
I only asked for help because im still new on alot of character synergys for supports and such
Luckily my luck with talene and mezoth just makes it easier
Did you finish the talene event? I think you can get a free copy of talene once the event map is cleared
I still need to get to ch 16 for the last one
Temple of time ive cleared the other two
Seems like your more focused on damage than support tbh
Your also not upgrading fodders
Yeah, I just read the guide you sent above. I joined this server like 5 minutes ago should i reset my heroes to upgrade the fodder?
That would be a smart choice
Okay, team comp is good?
You have alot of damage
But not alot of support that might be ok up to an extent but it’ll crumble eventually
Im not someone to ask on team comp i’m still learning myself but looking at a characters skills and the roles they have help
Ah ok thank you
For example my team currently is
Talene lyca and rohan are my supports
Mirael is my dps and mezoth is my tank
@soft mulch
Hmmm
I guess i should wait more, just realized i dont even have enough xp to level up my guys
Thats why you upgrade fodder costs less
Or be a man and have your alt f2p account be hypoceledims only
ahhh smart
it doesn’t cost less
pretty much brand new player, idk who to run and to lvl up
read the pins in #classic-questions
rares dont cost less?
no
Could someone please help
New to the game, wondering what I should use or focus on getting?
Read the pinned beginners guides in #classic-questions , they will outline the early game pretty much entirely. You're going to want to run wukong and fodder heroes early on.
Ty, that also show daimon as a good early carry. Is wukong still better?
how to beat?
Daimon will be a carry for a long time later, but early on he isn't as good because you won't have all his skills unlocked. That's why Wukong is just the early option until he gets worse past level 100 ish when you switch to a fifth fodder like Mirael to carry 'till 160.
28-60 help
Picture the lineup too
Probably something like
Ferael
Thoran
Lyca
Daimon
Rowan
Let either rowan or lyca take the athalia target
what's the problem here?
i lose
is it fawkes are your tanks getting destroyed?
my tanks always get destroyed generally
which tank dies first?
bedo
you can try bedo backline with brutus frontline
try replace lyca or daimon
alright
post your box and the stage again further below pls
swap mishka and albedo then swap mishka with brutus
it worked

Idk how u don’t win
^
Put daimon in where that dumb “tank” that’s dying instantly is and put rosa on daimon
This one's getting annoying. Ideas? (besides mercing an izold that I'll probably do before reset if nothing else)
And could try putting Lyca on the assassin to stun her
Raku snipe
honestly havent tried that even once somehow, worth a shot
any recommendations?
Too much CC, halp
Reset your non-Daimon heroes and level them back to 60, and then dump the levels into Daimon. Also, take a look at the pins in #classic-questions
afk helper not helping?
I've tried some of their formations, none have clicked yet. Still working on it though, there's one that seems promising
hello guys, i think i have a shot at ro64 this time. Here are the comps im going for, i can take someone to si30 before the time runs out. Any advice welcome, ty!
stuck on 9-30. do i just wait for mats to level or can i make some changes
Try:
Silvina
Thoran
Mirael
Golus
Talene
didnt work. seems like my tanks dont tank enough dmg and they just fall apart
You can try rearranging. Also try maybe 5-10 times per lineup. Rng is a thing in the harder stages
help? need a formation
For LC, is there a best order for the 6 Teams? Assume I field Ainz, Stall, GB, God Comp, Invade, Burst
I feel like majority is starting from strongest to weakest team so maybe u can counter like that
Right on thanks
Hi! Wondering if there's something else I can try while farming for lv 140 crystal
Try swapping Mirael for Ferael, and put Silas in the middle
You rarely want more than 1 carry in your lineup, and Daimon is better than Mirael since he's less squishy
You could also swap daimon out for Rosa and see if you can double Mira ult
Alright. Thanks for the tips!
Lyca also makes for a surprisingly good frontline unite because her haste is really, really good
Silas + Daimon is nasty. Thanks for this!
Silas is probably the best healer in the game
Hey guys I just started today and really like the game and know that it gets much more challenging. What people should i use to make a solid team
Read the pinned beginners guides in #classic-questions. They completely outline the early stage of the game including what to build
I just completed that stage using Damion, Rowan, lyca, prince, and Nara in that order. We have the same levels so it should work.
Oh sweet, I'll give that a try. Was trying with Thoran and Fera, I'll swap for Lyca/PoP. Thanks!
Daimon works better on backline after about 160. Swap with Lyca, she doesn't need to live for very long. You can also try Fera for Tasi, he's better CC. Nara can also help with Arden if he's the issue
Is that Rowan/PoP frontline or Daimon/Rowan frontline?
Artifacts? I currently have call on Daimon/Rowan/PoP, eye on the other two
Rowan had grace. Lyca had eye.
np
Need help with this battle. Tried over 40 times but I cant get through because of niru and isabella
Take off oden, lyca go front, sylvina back to kill isabella?
Stuck at 12-38. I know I messed up my ascensions in the beginning, tried to repair it as well as I could according to beginner's guide. My goto comp is Grezhul and Thoran frontline, with Talene Mirael Nemora backline. Any suggestions or tips for lineups in general or 12-38 in particular would be greatly appreciated!
I just finished 12-38, this is what I used.
Thanks for the recommendation!
Alright buddy, here is the problem. Silvina is not going to attack isabella. Ever. It only attacks those squishy ass dreafs. Also why put lyca in the front? She always dies first. I definitely get why you said take off oden
Dead chat
@normal sigil
Show champ list.
Lyca doesn't need to be alive to be useful. The initial haste is just really really good.
Show champ list so we can see what you have.
Alright
My RC is full btw…. So ill have to reset heroes if I have to lvl one up to max.
Here
Have u tried Brutus Talene front Brutus against Niru and Daimon Oden lyca backrow?
Make Daimon eplus
Kinda stuck, been teying differwnt positions and sometimes other heroes, but nothing seems to work. Got any ideas? I could pass it with merc but then id probably just be stuck at next stage
If u want to use Gwen,she works better with Rosaline and she is usually placed in the spot of rowan
Try putting rowan in front of Brutus and lyca behind
Don’t invest too much in gwyn she’s not that good
Also you shouldn’t ascend anyone yet it’ll just make you more stuck later on
Gwynt so 25 3f is needed to boost lb tower
Read beginner guide in #classic-questions if you haven’t as well @short salmon
ye I read it but I kinda messed up I feel like still lol
Gwen is what I got, she doing some work but frontline dies to fast. I should have focused more on the graveborn for Daimon
Try and level fodder to L+ to get to 160
do I reset oden and level up niru`?
wait no, I cant reset him, so I just level my saveas to 160, reset lyca or rowan and get niru to 160 and that should be 2/5 to 160 and both food
passed it with taking saveas to 160
wow gwyn 20 impressive
Do I change my team at all
huh
@safe hazel do I still stick with same team I got like 6 new people
Yh you can stick with that
When you can though reset wu Kong and put his resources into a fodder hero
i can reset him rn
Try and level hogan as he is a solid tank
Is there an E/E+ fodder hero you can put the resources into?
uhh what is a fodder hero..
a hero that doesnt go past legendary+
Legendary tier hero
i dont have any legendary
Level hogan
and use him on the team?
He is a legendary tier heroes they are CAPPED at legendary plus but can be rare
Yh you should get rid of Arden and move daimon backline you need 2 tanks
Like this? but level him up
Yh that’s good
Hello guys, can someone please help me do a team, ive been playing since yst and now im really stuck, i can share my screen and vocal, plz help me
How do you beat verdans hes always the last one and just destroys me raw
You guys see anything I could be doing differently? My back line dies in 2 seconds. This lineup wrecked chapter 16.4 to 16.36 where I am now stuck
Do i have what it takes to go on or shall i wait for other stuff i can grind daily
Drop mezoth for thoran and nara for lyca
First mistake you made for upgrading so many ascendeds to L and not L+
Not to mention your levelling more characters then you need to
Stop upgrading to legendary tier if u dont have enough copies for mythic/ascended. Reset all heroes except silvina and pump all into her
alr i will
Dont level more than like 5 characters
wait imma do it rn
The rest that you’ll use goes into crystal
damn thats not alot XP
The amount you need goes up so it’ll be useful when you go up to the 160’s
Im sitting at like 20M
wait so what am i supposed to do now
kinda overwhelmed or im just dumb so i reset all of them ?
I'm sorry I'm only seeing this now, generally you want ezio 9f. The zolrath should also be 3f, burst doesn't work without that
Tried that now get mowed down just as fast
Shit mb
Thoran is lvl120? Try like 5-10times
Does mirael get to ult? Or she dies against silvina?
She hits ults but dies before launching it
Most cases they kill talene rowan then target the mirael
talene
lyca
mirael
mezoth/thoran
rowan
try replace rowan with daimon though if you have him or just another good support
Sadly still no daimon
Yea talene backrow would be my next suggestion
Tried that too
maybe fera instead of rowan?
Fera gets webbed and slain fast
idk then maybe push KT and try to get mirael to 141
Read beginner guide in questions
3 tanks is too many
Put Silas in middle
Or put a tank in the middle so your gwen and Silas don’t die to the axe guy
if you havent check the questions tab and the pinned messages there look for the beginners guide and that should get you situated
Holy fuck, there is so much, but so I need to reset all Heros past L, and focus on 5 heros, which 5 hero’s should it be, I saw recommendations for supports as well as who I should use in general.
But general isn’t catered to my options so I’d like to find the best for that
just dm me
Okay
I’m fairly new to the game. These are my heroes and my general lineup. Any tips or pointers? I really like Tasi and Shemira. Brutus is good but I haven’t gotten him that strong. And I’ve ascended everyone I can. As well as level up people to basically max that I can.
Also ignore the campaign lvl I just haven’t played in a while
also i normally switch in wukong off and on
As far as supports go should I run Merlin or Rosaline?
The rest of my team is Brutus(SI20), Arthur(SI30), Shemira(SI20), Rowan(SI30)
answer is in your name >:)
spicy chicken nuggies
more concerningly, who is the carry here?
My Shamira is all my dmg lol, I’ve actually made it decently far to the last node of 23
@maiden marsh
Slowly trying to build up my Daimon thi
yeah you'll want to drop her for either that daimon or any other competent carry asap
Is that new Talene a good carry or no?
under 200 deficit yes
Spicy
help me pleasse i'm stcuk
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You are stuck Here ?
More where to put my line up
First
Replace wu Kong with talene
And then try tu up talent fait she's really op in early with 1 copy
What's my best team right now?? I'm on stage 2-20
I only have her for a little bit
See the timer
Ah yes mb i forgot about that
So maybe you should up wu Kong but later you i ll need to reset him but i think he could be good now
Brutus thoran talen rowan eiron should be good
Aye!
No the others characters aren t good now or usefull in campaign
Aye ?
Now wu Kong is better just up him and then when you get thoran copies reset wu Kong and up thoran
Alr bet
?
Can I ask for help here about a reroll question?
I am in doubt about this 2 accounts to use as a main account
rerolling doesn't matter
But you think that new Angel character is a must for a starter? Or should I go with the more balanced one?
What should I use and what should I sell/ reset or stop upgrading or ascend? Pls help for a cookie :))
go with first one but in the long run it won't save you much time anyway
the only character I see being useful is Mortas in the first screenshot
@low lance Did you spend your Faction Scrolls on Lightbearer instead of Graveborn?
Honestly both accounts had good pulls but why do you have so much Lightbearer fodder...
@subtle canyon Stop leveling Shemira, follow the pinned beginner's guide in #classic-questions

