lineup-help

[royal stag]

And redeem all active codes

[fleet pewter]

Did it but my luck is ass so I barely had 3 skill heroes to ascend gwyn

I’m gonna see if I get better pulls

[limpid drift]

Have you tried Talene front, luc back?

[fleet pewter]

🤔

[limpid drift]

Need him to ult

[fleet pewter]

I’ll try that

[limpid drift]

I know he’s a tank but I used to run him on the back line to be of any use until he’s more built

[fleet pewter]

holy it worked

[limpid drift]

Nice

[fleet pewter]

let’s see if this formation works for ATLEAST the rest of the chapter🤔

I really need a healer smh

[limpid drift]

🤞

[primal mist]

good luck!

[languid flame]

Which one of these guys do i make legendary and build up?
I will also be sacrificing two of them

[primal mist]

no don't

NEVER use a 4-skill hero as fodder unless you have 18+ copies of them

[fleet pewter]

I got wrecked in 9-24 smh my heroes suck ass

[languid flame]

whats a 4-skill?

I'm new so I don't know these terms

[primal mist]

If you go to your hero's page and tap on skills, some of them have 4 skills while others have 3

[limpid drift]

Sometimes Rosa works front line too because she just runs away.

[primal mist]

The 4-skill heroes are also referred to as Ascended tier heroes, and 3-skill heroes are fodder (or Legendary tier heroes in the game)

[languid flame]

ohhh

[fleet pewter]

I’ll go ahead and try that!

[primal mist]

Have you checked out the guides pinned in #classic-questions by Bok? They'll help you a lot with terminology and knowing what to do and what to avoid early on

[languid flame]

i have no clue what to do with this box

[fleet pewter]

It worked, but only telene survived with her shield from her ult

[limpid drift]

Awesome!

[fleet pewter]

I’m gonna assign Rosaline to telene instead of gwyn

[worthy helm]

Should I use awakened talene or normal talene?

[primal mist]

That's a pretty solid box to start with

I recommend
Daimon

Grez
Rowan
Thoran
Ferael

[languid flame]

No clue What a good besides damian

[languid flame]

so grez and thoran upfront?

[primal mist]

Beyond that, check out Bok's guide in his pin

[fleet pewter]

Reset everyone, who’s the best for a team?

[primal mist]

dump levels into Gwyn and 4 fodders, and RC useful heroes: Brutus, Rosa, Cecilia

[fleet pewter]

So do I do, backline: Gwyn, Rosa, telene and front Brutus and Cecilia?

[languid flame]

Grez and thoran ufront?

[primal mist]

For now, probably. You might try rotating Rosa, Talene, and Cecilia depending on enemy formation

[primal mist]

For now, until you get somebody to replace Grez. Grez is one of the best heroes in the game, but not in early game. Either get lucky and get a Brutus copy, or level up a Hogan/Golus

[dim raft]

lineup help pls, thanks

[pale kettle]

Too many legendaries But use Lucius Belinda front
Isabella Daimon and Rowan back maybe

[maiden turret]

Any tips?
I need help passing 14-31
Really pushing for 16-1 to open all those extra stuff from event

[rotund idol]

This really feels like it can work but I'm falling just a little short, is it the lack of odens 9f? Grez needs +30 maybe? Astar with better gear and maybe some furniture?

[royal stag]

Get Daimon's si up to +20

And stop making L heroes

[feral stag]

How do I beat this. Seems impossible. I can't put my dps on back line due to althia clones but thoran on front line guards against that. Putting aside I think it's bs ai is allowed clones...advice?

Thinking the heroes I have can't beat this bs wall

[hoary sierra]

No Peggy oof

Have you tried pushing rose on rowan

Turns him into energy factory

[feral stag]

The main issue is my dps dying

Nope didn't work. Lasted longer but Gwyneth and Belinda still get blown up in the first 10 seconds

[hoary sierra]

Hmmmm

[feral stag]

I may just have to wait till I get better LBs

[hoary sierra]

I'm 10 floors away, I'll ping you if/when I pass 240
And what I used

[feral stag]

What I got right now.

[hoary sierra]

@feral stag

[feral stag]

Yeah doesn't help me much though. No where close to having morrow and Peggy ascended

[slender elbow]

35-48 fight 2

[tight juniper]

Alright, so can you show his (Thoran) gear?

[slender elbow]

Call on Thoran - but he rarely reaches the point where he fights alone against Flora and obviously never wins it 😉

Gear

[tight juniper]

Maybe replace that talene merc with an elite or low tier talene. I'm unsure if a merced talene would help. Not awakened

[slender elbow]

Ok, will try

Ty!

[tight juniper]

It worked?

[wispy notch]

Someone recommended me this comp daimon, lyca, tasi,rowan,ferael but idk what order to put them in and where should this get me in campaign? Ferael is mythic Rn all the others are ascended but none of them have a +30 or much furniture

[fiery wing]

play around formations

[west path]

I have Daimon as my Mythic carry, but what should I generally focus on to aid him? CC, Buffing him, getting 5 or 3+2 formation buff, something else?

And what champions work well with him? Any example lineups?

[stable ember]

Most of my comps are thoran/daimon/ferael/rowan with last slot either oden, lyca, or nara situationally

[west path]

So you forsake the formation buff then.

[stable ember]

Yep. Not worth losing the utility of rowan or lyca particularly. Haste from lyca is much more valuable than the few extra percent. Same with Nara, she can interrupt high value abilities for the enemies.

For example

[proven gulch]

Can someone help me with this lineup?

[west path]

Thanks

[pale karma]

Absolute noob here, currently using the 5 lvl 41 heroes. Is there anything I should change?

[stable ember]

Make sure you read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions. They will answer and explain everything progression wise early game and how to avoid wasting resources etc. Follow the typical wu-kong carry until 100+ levels

Also you only have to level 5 heroes, and can safely reset the others at rickety cart as they will be put on the resonating crystal to match their levels to your highest 5

[fierce vessel]

Returner, been browsing the beginner guides to get an idea for what I should aim for. Any advice otherwise?

[native wave]

Help please
stuck 13-22

[steady rain]

Trying to push forsaken Necro 80, kinda stuck :/

[fleet pewter]

White box is my current team, who do I replace just in cAse?

[silk ibex]

@fleet pewter Have you setup your wishlist yet? Or are you just unlucky with pulling Graveborns

[fleet pewter]

I set my wishlist to the guide wishlist, and I can’t pull Gravenborns as often 😭

[silk ibex]

It's fine, but honestly you don't have much to work with, just switch around your Heroes and positions if you get stuck, the game's all about experimenting

[fleet pewter]

Is it okay if I send my current gear just in case some other hero would use it better?

[silk ibex]

Just put your best gear on whoever you're using

[fleet pewter]

okay! I think that’s better, but when it comes to artifacts I don’t k ow who should use it

I have these, who should use them?

[silk ibex]

Call on carry, Grace on whoever needs to stay alive. Not sure about Eye, maybe Cecilia

[fleet pewter]

Okay! I’ll put call on gwyn, grace on Rosa because she allows gwyn to do her ult quickly and eye on ceci

[sacred vale]

Any recommendations on what should My lineup be? I seem to be having trouble on 9-16, my current lineup is thoran rosa rowan talene daimon

[silk ibex]

@sacred vale Take a screenshot of the enemies as well

It depends more on the enemies when you're stuck

[silk ibex]

@sacred vale For future reference, take them like this

[sacred vale]

Ooh thanks, i only need brutus now ig

[silk ibex]

But I'd try Golus/Rowan/Thoran/Talene at front, Daimon at the back. Arden is helpful too. Just try any combination of those. Maybe Rowan/Talene at the back next to Daimon if they can't survive

[silk ibex]

You get a free Brutus after Ch14

[sacred vale]

Okay thanks alot^°

[silk ibex]

@sacred vale Also when I said take them like this I mean take the screenshots like that

[sacred vale]

Oh

XD i will in the future when I have more questions

[silk ibex]

You're gonna have to experiment with Hero positioning if it doesn't work out. Again, game's all about experimenting when it comes to fights

[sacred vale]

Noted. Thank ^°^ imma go play with lineups

[silk ibex]

@sacred vale You'll get the hang of it if you keep track of what works and what doesn't. I'll give you a tip. Later on you'll get a chest that lets you pick Nara and she absolutely hard-counters Isabelle. Later on Isabelle cannot Ult no matter what otherwise she one-shots your whole team. Unfortunately it's a balance issue that came as a result of her getting buffed a while ago and the only solution is to make sure she doesn't Ult at all. Nara/Athalia help with that

[fleet pewter]

Just got her, should I replace someone for her? (White is current team)

[silk ibex]

I think you should replace Ankha with Arden for levels, don't really know about Estrilda tho. She can be useful especially pair with Call on Gwyneth but it's assuming you have some tank gear to spare. That or you can give her all tank gear since Brutus doesn't really need it at all

Word of warning tho, don't invest too much into Lightbringer. You'll be glad you saved your resources for Graveborns

Tho you should get more Graveborns than that... Did you use the 50 scroll Gift Code?

[fleet pewter]

yes but my dumbass was like “woah livhbringer I want fire girl yes!!!” I should of comed here sooner

is this a good team? I use the graveborn girl to kill the back enemies she does her job good

[silk ibex]

@fleet pewter Arden's a bit better since he can CC 2 instead of Silvina's 1

Later on at higher levels he can CC 3

[silk ibex]

Well you're only at Stage 10, you can reroll lol

[fleet pewter]

reroll?

[silk ibex]

Make a new account

[fleet pewter]

I did, multiple times, can show you my heroes there just in case any can work

[silk ibex]

Graveborns are the strongest of the 4 Factions and Lightbringers are the weakest, if you wanna restart better to do it sooner than later

The 50 Scrolls could have helped a lot

I know someone on this server who got 6 Daimon copies from those 50 scrolls and got Ascended Daimon in 5 days

[fleet pewter]

I’m gonna show you my other teams in my other accs just in case

[fleet pewter]

if that were my luck I would her here less

[silk ibex]

That's an extreme example but yeah GBs > Wilders = Maulers >>>>>>>>>> Lightbringers

[fleet pewter]

so basically lightbringers are ass

[silk ibex]

There's like a handful of them that are good enough to compete with the other Factions pretty much

[fleet pewter]

this is my heroes in my re roll acc

[silk ibex]

@fleet pewter Did you get 50 Scrolls?

[fleet pewter]

should I make another one and use the codes? Or does this one have a little potential

[silk ibex]

Oden and Thoran are a good start

[fleet pewter]

ye I used that code on the reroll acc

[silk ibex]

You don't have to reroll this one, Oden and Thoran are among the 5 best Graveborns. If you really care about getting Daimon then reroll but this is more than a good enough start. You can use Oden as a carry, but follow the pinned guide in #classic-questions if you're unsure

[fleet pewter]

I’m gonna use my main to collect afk rewards and if need codes use them for graveborn, and use this acc as my new main?

[silk ibex]

I'm pretty sure your resources aren't shared between accounts...? Someone verify this for me? I'm like 99% sure but I've never made an Alt

[past urchin]

Ofc they are not.

[fleet pewter]

they aren’t, sadly

[silk ibex]

I mean why keep the other account then

[fleet pewter]

to remind me of my mistakes because I made my first mythic there 😔

[silk ibex]

I feel like it was a bit of a waste to use all those scrolls on LB especially when you've just started, but it's not like it's unsalvageable?

[silk ibex]

Mythic isn't really special tho, especially Mythic Gwyneth

[fleet pewter]

is she bad?

[silk ibex]

If it was a Mythic Rowan then yeah definitely don't have to reroll

[past urchin]

What did you get with them anyway.
I see no LBs either.

[silk ibex]

She's not horrible, decent for a LB if you get her, but I still feel like it's a big waste to not invest in GB off the bat

[fleet pewter]

on my main, I used them all on LB because I wanted to get a mythic, and on my alt I used them on graveborn

[silk ibex]

@past urchin He was talking about this. I'm guessing Rosa, Cecilia, Estril and Gwyneth were his pulls

[fleet pewter]

yup

[fiery wing]

gwyn isnt bad tho, my first A was a gwyn too

[fleet pewter]

I’m stuck on 10-3, I think I regret my decision

[silk ibex]

It's not really about getting a Mythic, it's about getting the right Mythic. Gwyneth isn't horrible, yeah. I just see it as a waste when you're not capitalizing on 50 free GB scrolls on that other account. I mean you got Oden and Thoran, that's an excellent start.

[fleet pewter]

When I did that I had 0 idea of this discord, I should of done it sooner

[past urchin]

Ew Gwyneth carry.
Wouldnt suggest if you value your sanity.
Not as a main carry at least.

[silk ibex]

My E Gwyneth is collecting dust somewhere in my box lol

[fiery wing]

i mean atleast its not walker

[fleet pewter]

so basically gwyn is bad

Im gonna end it all and here I thought she was good

[silk ibex]

Don't say that name, everytime someone says it on this server I get a copy of him, shut up

[past urchin]

Shes not.
But she is limited in a million ways and hard countered in another 2 million.
In short - you can make her work, its not hopeless BUT you will have a much easier time with someone else.

[fiery wing]

she's not bad, but comparing to Daimon capabilities .. uhm meh

[silk ibex]

@past urchin I feel like that Oden on his other account will more than make up for lost time

[fleet pewter]

okay so do I discard my current main or use my alt?

1 is alt 2 in main

[silk ibex]

Use Oden as your carry on your Alt is my personal opinion, up to you if you really love Gwyn lol

[fiery wing]

do this instead and follow the pinned guide dont do misktakes that will hinder your progression and make sure your wishlist is right

[fleet pewter]

got it, I’m gonna use this acc as my main instead

[silk ibex]

Start on your Alt, farm some Diamonds, reset Thoran, Oden and Mirael, claim your free Wukong and follow the pinned guide

[fiery wing]

the prob with gwyn is she sucks at deficits

[silk ibex]

@fiery wing Meanwhile Daimon gets stronger with higher deficits lol

The stronger they are the stronger Daimon gets, up to a point I guess

[past urchin]

Main is kinda doomed, sorry.
Not only you dont have a reliable, fast pushing carry but also you cant even use Mirael for the time being as you likely fed her to your LBs.

[silk ibex]

I've never tried pushing with Oden as main carry before

I pulled Oden and used him as a support-y type for my Wukong and eventually Mirael

Then I pulled a Daimon and started using him instead, now he's still my carry

[fleet pewter]

okay, I reset everyone

[silk ibex]

Okay, now follow the pinned guide in #classic-questions

[fleet pewter]

okay!

which one

[past urchin]

Is this going to be an Oden carry account?

[fleet pewter]

unless I get the other graveborn, yes

[past urchin]

Interesting.

[fleet pewter]

is that bad

[silk ibex]

No, Oden's probably the second best GB early game carry behind Daimon

[fiery wing]

i'm still using daimon until this day lmao he's carrying my ass since chapter 1

[past urchin]

I have no idea tbh.
When I was at that stage in the game Oden was a useless hero.
Ive no idea how he does early on, sorry.

[fleet pewter]

daimon = doraemon

[silk ibex]

@fiery wing Wasn't lucky enough to pull him early, I only pulled him after I was almost done with the Wukong levelling method, but the 50 scrolls helped me get both him and Ferael to A which is nice

[fleet pewter]

I’m gonna reroll and get daimon just in case

[silk ibex]

I got Oden early on and I can say he's decent

@fleet pewter No don't, you have Thoran and Oden. You'll catch up, better than your Gwyneth account at least

[fiery wing]

i managed to get him to M at chapter 11 and A at chapter 18 so yea begginer's luck

[fiery wing]

no rerolling is bad trust me

[silk ibex]

@fleet pewter I didn't get Daimon at the beginning, I used Wukong and then Mirael before I even got a single copy of Daimon

[fleet pewter]

ok, I’m not gonna reroll and stick to my alt

[fiery wing]

i had an alt who got daimon on first summons but i quit on chapter 7

[silk ibex]

You think that's beginner's luck? Someone recently asked a few things in #classic-questions and we found out he pulled 6 fucking Daimons from his 50 scrolls and got the next 2 copies soon after from early game Diamonds. So yeah, F2P got an A Tier Daimon in 5 days smh

[fiery wing]

dang lucky tho

[worn spire]

Hey someonr have a picture with top meta heros for a new friend

[fiery wing]

wdym top meta heroes? for early game?

[silk ibex]

Just send them the wishlist if it's a new player

[worn spire]

The wishlist yes

But I dont find it here in the tchat

[fiery wing]

check the pins on #classic-questions

[worn spire]

Thx

[mild hawk]

Vurk deals so much damage and I can't reach it because of Brutus, same for the ferael, protected by golus and they kill me before I kill the tank

[flint sinew]

So I finished rerolling (after 4-5 hours) and I have these accounts,
Which should I go for and main?

1. x4 Morrow
2. x4 Raku
3. x4 Astar
4. x4 Eironn
5. x1 New Talene + x2 Daimon
6. x4 Daimon

[maiden marsh]

6 is head and shoulders above the rest but 5 is decent as well in terms of value

[flint sinew]

I see, I kinda like the new talene, Ill try to go for #5 then since its "okay". just hope that I pull for more daimons. Thanks man!

[rugged wagon]

What should I focus on now? I'm using rowan, lucius/saurus/thoran, lyca, eironn, tasi

[safe hazel]

Do number 6 dont reroll too much though

[fiery wing]

i'd go for 6 since its a gurranteed M which will progress u a lot, 5 is good but you still need to rely on 4th daimon copy

[faint mantle]

Which support heroes would be BIS for campaign?

[safe hazel]

BIS?

[worldly apex]

best in slot

[mossy galleon]

Who should I use my swap scroll on

[worldly apex]

depends on the stage but everything listed there is useful

[mossy galleon]

I feel like tidus ain't doing much for me.. I never use him outside factional tower

[worldly apex]

nobody

[faint mantle]

Best in slot

[faint mantle]

Gotcha

[narrow sleet]

currently stuck at 31-53

should i be going for 5 stars on my ascended characters?

[pale kettle]

No

And why engrave Rowan

[fiery wing]

actually you can play around them but imo rowan is the best for daimon but he needs SI 30, on the other hand silas can be a greaet healer for daimon, and oden can displace enemy formations

[fiery wing]

no, i dont even have 5* heroes, if i can do it so do you

[gaunt dragon]

Do you have clears for 35-56 and 35-60?

[silk burrow]

ah sorry i just got out of 35 so i can’t check anymore

[feral stag]

Have anything to yoink vurk or lock him down?

[mild hawk]

Idk not sure about that, gonna look if I find something

[feral stag]

Work towards merlin and albedo. Ainz really needs them to shine

Albedo is the glue that ties dimensional together. I use Arthur ezio aniz albedo merlin am beating guys in arena who are 40 levels above me. It's carried me into 33. Only issue is eventually you have to kill 3 teams and I think 5 later

[gaunt dragon]

Can I add u so I can see them

[silk burrow]

yeah sure my name is the same as here

[narrow sleet]

how do i get merlin isn't he gated through a paywall?

[hollow basalt]

Am I missing a better comp?

[feral stag]

Hmm I thought he was here?

[narrow sleet]

nah he ain't there for me

😔

[royal stag]

Shop

[feral stag]

Oh nevermind then :/ but you DO need albedo for ainz

I don't see him there. I bought him. Maybe he's not in dimensional stones yet?

[royal stag]

Challenger store

[steady rain]

18-33, stuck on 3 different accounts (other two on 18-32), similar lineups

[hollow basalt]

Good talk

[royal stag]

Put Daimon in ur Crystal

[feral stag]

You just need patience and more heroes at this point. Focus on GB. Daimon is a great carry

And once you can garrison things get ainz and albedo

Your still super early in the game. If you try to rush this game you will burn out

[cunning warren]

any ideas to beat this?

[limpid flume]

what are the best lineup for PvE ?

[feral stag]

Hmm Brutus lined up with Cecilia, ainz top back corner, eironn front top, Rosalind back middle, albedo bottom front?

For @cunning warren

[cunning warren]

doesn’t work ainz is useless

[feral stag]

Ah well you need gear >_<

[cunning warren]

doesn’t do anything even with gear

[feral stag]

Ainz will nuke his way all the way to chapter 30 I'd you get him and albedo powered up

He's one of the best in the game. Everything just takes time

[cunning warren]

he’s not +30 and has no furni

[cunning warren]

I haven’t used him in campaign once

[feral stag]

Right. Like I said once powered up he is one of the best. If you got him already work on him

[cunning warren]

that still doesn’t help me

[feral stag]

The main thing you need is time dude. There are walls in this game that you won't pass till you power up

This is the kind of thing ainz can do when powered up. Granted they aren't using a good comp but ainz IS one of the best and you definitely should work on him

When I first got him I was the same way "this dude sucks." It really doesn't take long for him to start being good though. And you got his other main piece alebdo

Maybe others are smarter but right now with what you got I don't see a way to beat that if ainz isn't ready. sorry I can't be more help

[mild hawk]

Nevermind idk how my saurus killed them all when retrying

Probably crit luck

[feral stag]

Sure was one of my carries before ainz. He's good

[mild hawk]

Yeah

[feral stag]

Also a main hero for twisted

[fallow sun]

Any team recommendations to start with?

[feral stag]

Daimon thoran fereal grez are all definite heroes to work on. Daimon most of all for carry purposes

[keen abyss]

Help pwease

[royal stag]

Brutus, Talene, Daimon, Rowan, Nara

[keen abyss]

Thank you very much

It worked

[feral stag]

Ideas? I assume "get better light bearers" is it lol

Can't put my damage dealer's in back cause althia clones kill them can't put them in front cause thoran clones kill them

[stuck rampart]

How can I improve my lineup? I'm level 185 and chapter 29

[whole cliff]

any idea on how to beat this? i kill everyone but then its ainz vs brutus and his last grasp isnt even popped

[feral stag]

Tried ezio in place of lyca?

Also line up your Brutus with his so Estrella doesn't have a type advantage

[royal stag]

U still have ur Swap scroll ?

[stuck rampart]

Yes

I didnt know what i should do with it so I just kept it

Do you want to see my heroes then? To see who to use it on?

[royal stag]

Post ur box in #classic-questions and ask if its worth to Swap anyone

[stuck rampart]

Ok

[pale kettle]

Hi there wonderful people ! Was wondering if someone has any idea of a talene centered comp with those ?

[gaunt dragon]

Sent

[silk burrow]

accepted it

[silk burrow]

you won’t be able to use her for long so it’s kinda pointless to do that. read the beginner guide in #classic-questions pins

[worthy helm]

What maulers should I aim for?

[silk burrow]

kren. focus on getting daimon and rowan tho

[dull flame]

although you should just try and get daimon

[worthy helm]

Should I upgrade Sarita and Satrana?

*safiya

[dull flame]

are you only building maulers? cause the faction itself is kinda bad

[worthy helm]

Nah

I just noticed that my team is really unbalanced

[dull flame]

don't think about maulers. You don't need to balance the amount of heroes in each faction. Graveborns and wilders are naturally better than lighbearers and maulers. Focus on graveborns

[worthy helm]

K

[dull flame]

read this too, check your wishlist

[worthy helm]

I just remembered I still have this

Flora maybe?

[pale kettle]

Any chance?

[cyan fossil]

Here’s my current box. Currently in chapter 23. What would be the best team for just helping me get through the story?

[prime cairn]

Pls help me with this level

[primal mist]

Try
Ferael

Thoran
Rowan
Brutus/Lyca/Awakened Talene
Daimon

[prime cairn]

Ok thanks

[prime cairn]

Didn‘t worked that good. Any other tips for this level?

[steady rain]

Did people already tell you to read the pins? Also stop ascending heroes to L, you are spreading your fodder too thin, get Daimon to M, level to 180, SI 20+, it'll easily carry you to 18-32 (at least)

[leaden turtle]

Probably to chap 28 even...

[leaden turtle]

You could try pulling Arden with Nara or eironn if he's the issue

[grave sigil]

still newbie am i using the correct champions

for my lineup

[limpid drift]

I’d be using Shem

[prime cairn]

But how and where do I get emblems in chapter 17 quickly?

[safe hazel]

Read the beginner guide in #classic-questions

[safe hazel]

Don’t cap to new players they’ll believe it

[limpid drift]

At that level I actually would. She saw me well into the 20’s. I know others are way better now but in early game you’re kind of limited to what you pull.

[leaden turtle]

That's the meta 2 years ago, things have change, Shem is ass, end of discussion

[limpid drift]

I didn’t ask for your opinion

[leaden turtle]

I don't care

[limpid drift]

That’s pretty much how I feel about your comments 👍

[safe hazel]

She shouldn’t be on your wl so doesn’t matter

If you’re limited to what you pull she’s not even an option

[limpid drift]

He’s got her at e+ rn, so for the heroes he currently has she is a better option to use than most of the rest he currently has. I’m not suggesting to build her but use her while she’s the best option.

He didn’t ask what to build, he asked who he should be using in his line up rn.

[pale tendon]

I don’t really know what I’m doing when it comes to getting a good line up where they work well together, are any of these good

[fleet pewter]

I think you should use the fallen king, he revives after dying for 1 time only at I think level 61?

[safe hazel]

Still not the best option but I don’t want to argue

You keep thinking Shem is good just don’t advise anyone in this server to use Shem

Over daimon as well

[limpid drift]

Who said over Daimon???

Don’t tell me what to do

[fleet pewter]

hey copper Lilly! I need your help once again

I’m stuck once again..

[limpid drift]

Apparently I don’t know what I’m talking about

[fleet pewter]

who said that

[limpid drift]

No-one important

[fleet pewter]

u helped me pass levels .. idk WHAY they are talking about smh

[tight juniper]

Do you, by any chance, have any other heroes off the crystal like lyca? Show your full heroes.

[fleet pewter]

will do! I’ll show the crystal and all my heroes a

and the heroes

I’m low key the richest player in diamonds tbh

[limpid drift]

What happens? Who dies first?

[fleet pewter]

I’ll just send a vid, I’m horrible at explaining

[tight juniper]

Oh, so no Lyca. You can replace Rosa with Arden to cc Vedan or Ankhira. But who seems to cause more trouble?

[fleet pewter]

this happens

That dammed reaper looking guy ruins it all

[limpid drift]

You’re actually getting in some decent damage

[fleet pewter]

mostly because of gwyn but then everything goes downhill

[limpid drift]

If the reaper is causing most issue try to kill him first

[fleet pewter]

I tried many formations, but nothing seems to kill him first

[limpid drift]

How does cecilia hold up? Have you tried her opposite him?

[fleet pewter]

hm.. I could try that

[tight juniper]

You can try to reposition Brutus Talene, Arden, Gwyn, and Silvinia. I'm unsure if Lorsan is used early game but you can put him in position of Arden or Silvinia to link damage.

[fleet pewter]

ez

but now here comes a bigger problem

[limpid drift]

Nicely done

[tight juniper]

grats

[fleet pewter]

I do not know who I should actually use, I feel like my team is bad even tho I have some ok ish heroes like Phoenix woman

[limpid drift]

Yeah so many heroes doing so many things it’s really hard to get a grip on.

[fleet pewter]

My old team used to be

[limpid drift]

Some people seem so much better at it than others.

[tight juniper]

Talene is helpful if you need to heal. You should definitely try to get a Lyca, would boost up Gwyn.

[fleet pewter]

this used to be my old team and it used to held up alright

[limpid drift]

I generally try to get rid of problem heroes first.

[fleet pewter]

but then the monkey dude JUSY fell off

sigh, I rlly need some better heroes like doremon or whatever it’s make was

[limpid drift]

Some heroes are really bad a lower ascension as well but are beasts later on.

[fleet pewter]

like who?

I feel like gwyn and Silvina carry my team

[limpid drift]

Well when I started playing eironn was so terrible at e and e+ that I used to use him for fodder. Then I realised he was like the main man later on. Other heroes have surpassed him now but that was about a year ago I guess

[fleet pewter]

Who should I try to prioritize, I feel like Brutus could be a beat at ATLEAST Elite+ or legendary because of the skill that gives him a shield

[limpid drift]

I never used Brutus. Until chapter 20+ I used tanky damage dealers in my front line. I never pulled the copies for Brutus and by the time I did, I didn’t need him.

Who’s on your wishlist?

[fleet pewter]

would you look at that, I’m stuck and I e tried to get rid of the problem, yet my heroes still die..

and I’ll show my wishlist rn

[royal stag]

Use this wishlist

[fleet pewter]

I have the purple/pink haired lightbringer girl, should I use her?

[limpid drift]

I would have rowan there for sure. Also Kren is a main carry for maulers. Probably mishka for wilders instead of that first guy.

[fleet pewter]

okay, I changed my wishlist to that instead

[limpid drift]

I really like morrow too, just can’t comment on how he is at lower ascension. Although should be decent if he’s on the beginners guide I guess

[fleet pewter]

okay, I don’t think my dcutrent team can even pass 10-40

but I changed my wishlist to that so that’s a step forwaed

[royal stag]

Do u have the chest with Nara and 10 faction scrolls?

[fleet pewter]

nope, used them all on livhtbeinger)yes I know bad( before I knew, then used the extra 10 from rewards and got nothing on GB

[royal stag]

Nara would be ur best bet there

[astral wagon]

I feel like i need oden

[royal stag]

Rowan, Arthur, Daimon, Oden, Nara

[fleet pewter]

I think I found my new team

[astral wagon]

Oop--worked, thank u kad!

[fleet pewter]

This team workes extremely well as of now, both heroes go back and kill either a mage or someone else

[midnight cave]

Merlin, Queen (front), Awakened Talene, Gorvo (front), Haelus

Rowan, Albedo (front), Ainz, Peggy (front), Prince

Isabella, Mishka (front), Desira, Alna(front), Oden

I'm working on CH 36+ drafts but up to now i've mostly just been using my strength, what do you think of these (note I own most non-Celesgeons in the game as E+ and am looking for what I should be upgrading)

[fleet pewter]

That didn’t take long. Stuck once again

[midnight cave]

try swapping rosa with the Graveborn L+ and put Cecelia in the middle so she hits the Saveas

[midnight cave]

🤷‍♀️ It's been a while since I did early game draft stuff I mostly just blew everything up with Daimon then Belinda later on, then Oden up until now

soz

[fleet pewter]

it’s okay, I’ll see if maybe with some time my team improves

[midnight cave]

I guess I'll try, I lack most those meta picks tho

[midnight cave]

You'll get there, I'm not sure how reluctant you are to do this but somebody advised me at a lower lvl to reset a bunch of random heros I had lvl'd up back to lvl 1 and dump everything into a L+ Mireal and she carried me to pretty late in the game

[shy onyx]

Is classical 5pull okay? I use Safiya instead of Queen (don't have Queen)

[shy onyx]

Oh nvm I just red the description

[hollow fractal]

Chapter 6 new lineups thoughts or just stick to what I currently have

[thorny fulcrum]

Looking for help beating ch 14, sitting at 14-38. I have one spot on my resonating crystal open. I've tried full GB team, full LB team, mix of LB/GB, and mix of my two Mauler tanks (Golus and Brutus) with LB and GB. The Golus/Brutus with Mirael, Rowan and Rosa did the best.

[astral wagon]

[royal stag]

Arthur, Rowan, Nara, Talene, Daimon

[astral wagon]

Thank u!

[pure flare]

[median parcel]

I’m decently far along, but I never really do challenger stuff was wondering what lineups would be best utilizing the heroes i have

[gusty matrix]

Can someone help with how to beat? Have slots available in short term aswell

I don’t die just can’t out damage the healing

[stable ember]

Drop grez or thoran, put daimon up front and add Oden. Optionally can play around with Nara pulling probably numisu

If you have lyca, also an option to try to get ahead of healers setting up.

[gusty matrix]

Cheers that helped

[astral wagon]

tried several versions swapping places and such, kinda stumped

[primal mist]

Try Thoran/Brutus/Lyca for Oden, and Rowan for Talene

[astral wagon]

None worked, i almost ended it once but isa remained, now everyone keeps dying within seconds again ill have to see what elsei can fix

[primal mist]

If Isa is your probelm, run Thoran on bottom front for the extra stun on her

It'll take a few retries such that Nara gets her full CC off, and Thoran dies at the right time to keep Isa from ramping

[astral wagon]

Aaa, alright

[rapid rampart]

Should I reset Daimo and ascend Tasi?

[astral wagon]

bro 😭 dont touch daimon, he's a great carry for like..everything

[rapid rampart]

Well, my thought process is that I don't have a copy of him yet so he's stuck at 100.
Meanwhile I can get Tasi to 120 and also get Talene to 120 as well for another day and a half xD

[astral wagon]

daimon doesnt have to be reset for that, just keep him as is and wait for copies to keep boosting him--hes the strongest carry u could get so u just gotta b patient

that dude carried me through a few chapters early on

[rapid rampart]

👌

[fiery wing]

focus on getting daimon copies and ascending your fodders, and don't ascend A tier heroes without 4 copies

[foggy crest]

I need help, ive been stuck at 11-16 for soooo long

[fiery wing]

send stage and hero box

[foggy crest]

Alright

Stage 16

[fiery wing]

bruh send the stage

[sacred vale]

Hello what can I do to pass this stage? I'm stuck. Or do i just wait for hero essence to build up so i can level up more

[warm yew]

Frontline brutus/hogan

Daimon

Brutus/Hogan
Rowan
Lyca(or hogan/brutus if you have both and dont have lyca yet)
Ferael/Arden

@sacred vale ^

[sacred vale]

I dont have brutus

[warm yew]

@astral wagon 132698632 follow me, I have the clear on that

[astral wagon]

wut-

[pale kettle]

aight hows misty valley stage 15 "kill two backline first" get done

oh RNG is how apperently lol

[lament night]

any advice? I can stop Arden roots and tasi banish with nara and ferael but can't kill fast enough to generate energy and keep daimon ultimg

[pale kettle]

lyca instead of thoran?

or rowan, and put him in slot 1brutus slot 2

[warm yew]

I got it with easy rng on this

[warm yew]

Have you tried oden backline instead of nara? Wont stop the roots or anything but will help u win

If that doesnt work then move ferael down one and out in rowan with lyca frontline together with brutus

[lusty spindle]

This guy struggling with a 3x gap and im stuck with just a 200 k gap

[warm yew]

Why not gwyn center?

[pale kettle]

Yeah I got it immediately after I asked because ring lol

[pale kettle]

Im seeing all these huge levels on chara ters amd im here with measly characters.

Hi im new and i would like to know more about lineups and would like help lining up characters with this image

[royal stag]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

Oh mb then!

[fiery wing]

i did Ainz comp but replaced rowan with lucretia

[silk ibex]

I'm copying a winning formation from someone, but they have 20 RC levels more than I do, unless it's outdated and one of the enemies got buffed cause they're one-shotting me with normal attacks alone

[coral pier]

Well that explain why you don't have Ainz damage. Of course 000 Ainz does no damage.

[digital skiff]

That deficit isnt shit so you can def push 27/28 with your box

[silk ibex]

I don't have Arthur yet so I can't get a good amount of Dim Emblems, also unlocked Inn at like Ch20 so I didn't get many chances to pull Furn

[coral pier]

How is their Oden investment? Oden also gets a massive boost from signature and furni.

[silk ibex]

@coral pier He just hit A a few weeks ago, not much investment. I don't have many Emblems

[coral pier]

I mean the guy you are copying.

[silk ibex]

I get a lot of Furn for stuff I don't use like Grez (not bad by any means, he's just not A), Albedo at 3 Furn and Arthur at 3

The weird thing is aside from his RC levels I think I'm better geared than them...?

[coral pier]

Did you copy artifacts?

[silk ibex]

Yes

[coral pier]

Your Daimon is level 220 and theirs is 240. If you take Fera to level 200 is that enough for Daimon 240?

Daimon level 240 should be your first priority anyway.

[silk ibex]

You need RC Lv200 to get any Heroes to Lv240

My RC level is 180 and I'm barely breaking out of my dust-wall on Oden, need like 3k Dust to get Oden to 220

[coral pier]

Oh yes I see you are missing 2 heroes... how many retries deep are you?

[silk ibex]

Not many but 90% of my retries Daimon dies to Estrilda

Mirael can look at anyone and decide they die

[coral pier]

It's the 10% that counts. Is there anyone in the team that is not doing anything ever?

[silk ibex]

It depends on if they Crit but they all do a bit, they just have an insanely high Crit, willing to bet it's close to 100

Mirael keeps Fireballing Daimon and Critting him 3 times in a row

[coral pier]

Do you ever get close to winning?

[silk ibex]

Nope, again, they're consistently one-shotting my team with normal attacks alone

My Daimon has full 5* Graveborn Mythic Gear with T1 boots

[coral pier]

Did you experiment with using your Lyca instead of Oden or Fera?

[silk ibex]

Everything just dies immediately, their damage is just way too high for any of my units to handle

Stuck on Towers, can't beat Lv310 bosses on the last 2 PoTs, waiting for Framton Merc next week for MV, Campaign's one-shotting me, I think I just need to wait a bit

There's nothing else to do for now if that's the case

[coral pier]

It's hard one. I guess I would start by doing a few more retries to see if you get close and maybe it is possible to win with good luck. If that doesn't work you can experiment with using Lyca. If Daimon dying too fast is the problem you can also try swapping places with him and Rowan. I guess you could also try Silas to see if he can land a ult on Daimon.

[silk ibex]

Silas probably would die very quickly to AoE

If it's a high chance for anything on the enemy team to 100-0 all my units I think I'm just underlevelled to tackle this stage

I'll try to wait for more fodder and Ascend Thoran, see if I get any luck with my 5th Ascended, since Grezhul's lagging behind on copies

[coral pier]

Sure

[sacred vale]

Hello, im hardstuck on this level, i cant seem to pass no matter what i do. Do I just wait for more hero essence to get all my heroes to 120?-? Xd

[silk ibex]

@sacred vale Try Awk Talene? Swap out Ferael for Arden maybe and change around the positions, replace Hogan with Golus

Make sure they're at best gear and use any Artifacts you have

[sacred vale]

Okaay thanks

[lusty spindle]

Gwyn center didnt work due to talene being too squishy, otherwise i would have, need lucius to get to level for it to work better

[digital skiff]

Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Iden

[digital skiff]

Get mirael t 120

[digital skiff]

Show box to

[silk ibex]

@digital skiff Artifact on Lyca?

Nevermind holy shit it worked 1st try, @digital skiff How did you do that lol you're a God

[sacred vale]

All my box?

[silk ibex]

No seriously how tf did you do that, it actually worked 1st try without breaking a sweat

[unreal plover]

I’m stumped

[pale kettle]

Been there a few days ago, if farael doesn't do the job with isabella, you'll need fawkes, eironn or nara to grab her and make daimon kill everything while they occupy isabella time

[sacred vale]

Ic ic

[pale kettle]

If you have room in RC put one of them there and give it a try, also daimon in front row to grab more energy and faster ultimates is good. Make him a few leves above there rest

[silk ibex]

@sacred vale Combo Nara with Thoran later on for Isabelle

[sacred vale]

Thanks ^^ ill test it out

[silk ibex]

@digital skiff Got an answer for this one? It's literally all my hated Heroes on one team lmao

Daimon

Oden
Brutus
Lyca
Ferael

Did the trick, typing this out for future reference, sorry for unnecessary @

[fiery wing]

how to make this work? thanks

[coral pier]

Is that from afk helper?

[fiery wing]

yea

[coral pier]

What's the problem? Thoran doesn't ult?

[fiery wing]

i tried equipping all call except for flora he ults but safiya lived

[coral pier]

What if Thoran has eye instead of call? Still can get ult?

[royal stag]

U tried ur Ainz Team?

[fiery wing]

it worked now with rng thanks

[coral pier]

With no changes?

[fiery wing]

no changes

[coral pier]

Thoran cheese do be like that sometimes, actually most of the time. I hate it.

[fiery wing]

yea i hate the rng of thoran cheese but when it works its satisfying

[mossy galleon]

Can someone help please?

[warm yew]

@mossy galleon found in my camera roll lol

[mossy galleon]

@warm yew lol.. I'll use it then thnx

@warm yew also should I use my swap scroll?

[digital pumice]

Hey guys who should I use instead of Numisu I can’t get him past 100 no fodder

[limpid drift]

Make Silas L+

How does the crow do at lower ascension levels?

Tbh honest people will start talking trash but your L bel or Shem will do far better than Numisu at this point.

[warm geode]

who should i get or level up or ascend

current team is ainz rowan rosaline lucius and daimon/prince

[digital skiff]

Told ya your rc was high enough to fuck these people up. Pro tip, dont frontline daimon against
Hendrick
Estrilda
Ghrezul
Nara
Shemira.
They either stun you at the start or deal a shit ton of damage at the start

[digital skiff]

Ya

[silk ibex]

Yeah, I pushed through and now I'm in Ch25, thanks man

Tho I'm guessing with this level of damage I probably would have to start investing into T1 or even T2 gear

[digital skiff]

You wont win 220 lb without belinda

[digital skiff]

Ping or dm me when you need help and pro tip
Brutus is frontline, always. If atha is backline then have rowan tank that. Oden and Daimon should be backline 99% if the time

[digital skiff]

#classic-questions for more in depth answer

[silk ibex]

@digital skiff If there's stuff that randomly attacks or attacks the backline like Mirael Fireball or just Silvina, Rowan gets one-shot cause it's two big hits in a row. Rowan can tank one hit with immunity but gets immediately killed by the other. At what point does he start becoming a dodge-machine?

[digital skiff]

Full t2, Atleast t2 3* weapon, boots min

[silk ibex]

Still trying to figure out that one, the Athalia vs another backline-hunter thing

[warm yew]

Hell nah, too early so save it, I haven't used mine yet, but your best bet would be gwyn-raku swap

[fiery wing]

wow you really collecting clears

i always forgot to screenshot my clears when I need it xD

[warm yew]

yeah I have a shit ton of screenshots

I started when I noticed my rc clears were lower than the usual I found on afkhelper and ingame clears

[limpid flume]

What is the best line up for The Twisted Realm Kane Boss

[muted pasture]

Hey i want help with my lineup if i can change stuff to make it better ive been using this lineup for a bit was able to beat everyone even 3x more than my combat ability because of talene and that middle character of healing id love to know if there’s way more better options i can do specially for first 2heros that guy aint good that epic girl with her wolves saved me countles times

[tight juniper]

You should add a carry into your team.

[fiery wing]

warek

talene
silas
grez
twins

how to kill flora?

[muted pasture]

What’s a carry

[tight juniper]

A carry, the hero who deals the most damage. The carry who helps you carry your whole team.

[muted pasture]

Which one is it cuz now only talene is the one doing it

[tight juniper]

You tell me. Read pins in #classic-questions so you know more about the game for beginners.

[royal stag]

Ainz Team or Alna+GB should work

[digital pumice]

How should my lineup be? For this

[royal stag]

Any Nara copy ?

[pale kettle]

Could Tasi work there too?

[digital pumice]

None @royal stag

[pale kettle]

Tasi?

[royal stag]

Eironn maybe to interrupt Belinda

[pale kettle]

@digital pumice Can you send damage chart?

[digital pumice]

No tasi rip

[ashen ivy]

King Arthur will be better than Lucius, when i get him?

[royal stag]

100%, E/E+ Brutus would be even better

[limpid flume]

What is the best line up for The Twisted Realm Grotesque Mage

[silk burrow]

check your leaderboards

[royal stag]

Or ur pms

[mossy galleon]

Can someone help please

[rough frigate]

Any advice for 24-28? Stuck

[silk ibex]

I do the same if I clear a Stage that took me 50+ tries

[silk ibex]

Try Nara in middle back to yoink Mirael maybe? Replace Thoran and move Lyca to the front, see if that works, I'm pretty sure I used M Rowan with SI30 for my clear tho, but since you don't have that might need some other combinations

[rough frigate]

I think the bigger problem is the feral

[digital skiff]

Alna gb it

[rough frigate]

From what I see, Daimon gets CC and Brutus can’t stall long enough without any other dps so he dies, then their Hogan smashes me

[amber rapids]

Can someone make me 3 good challenger arena teams? Ty

[silk ibex]

Maybe try Oden to warp Estrilda away from Daimon, you should focus on three things:

1. Killing Mirael before she gets to spam Ult
2. Keeping Daimon as far away as possible from Estrilda so he can Ult multiple times
3. Making sure Daimon's hitting as many things as possible so his energy gain can counteract Ferael's energy reduction

[prime cairn]

Pls help me finishing this level

[royal stag]

Unlock Daimon's signature item and bring it up to +20

And stop making L heroes

[trail prawn]

could someone help me on this stage

[split oasis]

Can someone make me a team for Raku pre ch30 (cuz no windbinder)
Not make one, just a meta team that I can work towards for campaign and KT

[pale kettle]

my problem is that wu kong

for some reason he tanks a ton

[wise wagon]

Need suggestions for PvP lineup

[split oasis]

How can I cheese this, I'm a newbie cheeser, still learning

[fleet pewter]

I’m stuck once again, any help?

[silk burrow]

that’s hard to cheese cuz your deficit is small

[pale kettle]

Some help pls

[split oasis]

@near plover

Oh and I'll get him to Si30 dw

[near plover]

hm?

brutus there i think is too much

in that fight

i would frontline ferael and middle pos rowan

[stable scroll]

Hiii

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me with a good formation for campaign, stuck on 12-16

[stable scroll]

I am totally new too.

[limpid drift]

What’s the enemy formation? What have you tried? What happened?

[pale kettle]

Backline always dies nearly immediately (except talene) then shemira, Lucius and talene just don't have the DPS to win

[pale kettle]

i believe isabella is one of the problems there, to fix i usually get nara to grab her and waste her time, yours is legendary, might help. Also i think i read somewhere that tank vs warrior is a bad idea, so probably move lucius to tank Golus, just don't make shemira tank brutus, play a little with that should do the trick

[limpid drift]

Rowan can be quite tanky, sometimes worth a try on the front line.

[pale kettle]

Still struggle with Nara

Guess I just need to be higher level maybe?

[fluid spoke]

hielp

[limpid flume]

what is the best lineup for Cursed Realm

[safe hazel]

swap daimon and rowan

[safe hazel]

look at leaderboard

[rapid rampart]

Help please. Can I change anything up?

[smoky lava]

Hi guys can I have some team composition advice? The guides say I should be 70% of the levels I'm defeating at most and yet I'm struggling when I'm on par

Currently running Talene + Call, Thoran + Grace, Rosaline following Talene, Mirael + Eye, Silas

11-33 so maulers and lb

[primal yacht]

Any team comp advice? Desperately need a tank, I use a borrowed Wukong in anything except campaign and tower
Currently wanna asc shemira + brutus passively

[safe hazel]

look at beginner guide on #classic-questions

and i'd post your box in #classic-questions and ask what should you swap belinda to

[primal yacht]

Oh ok thx

[fiery wing]

i don't have alna

[digital skiff]

Yikes, luc?

[echo basin]

Advice?

[prisma kestrel]

if u have nara, shes great to pull belinda so u can try to burst her down

[echo basin]

Thx!

[strange tide]

i need some help please! i m stuck on 15-40 hard... been here a while

I’m getting really angry with it

please?

[harsh urchin]

Does anyone know what formation i could use for this

[astral wagon]

My god this chapter whoopin my ass at every turn

[foggy crest]

Help please, been stuck here for a while now

[primal mist]

Try Daimon backline - swap with Talene. Also, if enemy Nemora or Arden are giving yo utrouble, try Nara. Get Golus off backline, try Oden or Silas instead

[high marlin]

Put Mirael in center so her ult can hit all 5

[primal mist]

Tbh your box is a mess and you have way too many heroes at L. Take a look at the pins in #classic-questions

[foggy crest]

K

[high marlin]

Also take shemira out for another support

[foggy crest]

Alright

[primal mist]

That's a rough fight tbh. Share a pic of your whole box instead of just maulers, might be ale to come up with other ideas. Your current lineup is about as good as it'll get though

[primal mist]

We'll need a picture of the enemy lineup to help properly

[harsh urchin]

Ah nvm i thought i had tried everything but then i tried something random and i destroyed it for some reason

[primal mist]

Put daimon backline and remove Shemira. Put Brutus/Thoran/Lyca frontline (try each pair in each order a few times). Maybe try Raine for Rowan, though Rowan is generally better. Arden for Oden might also help, though he adds more RNG and will take more tries for his root to pop off

[primal mist]

Noice. If you get stuck again, take a look at my suggestions

[primal mist]

What do you need a lineup for?

[primal mist]

You might want to try Ferael in for Silvina. Alternatively, if you need more burst and less sustain, try Tasi/Ferael for Silas

[astral wagon]

I thought maybe someone had more luck with other heroes they could suggest

[primal mist]

Oh, my mistake. I was trying to help so many others I forgot I asked for your box. Lemme take a look

[primal mist]

Your lineup does look about as solid as it can get. I'm not sure how well Arthur holds up, but you might want to try swapping him and Brutus, and then swapping him out for Thoran. Nara + Thoran can apply some solid CC on Arden and Brutus can tank for a guaranteed amount of time against Estrilda. You might also try Ferael or Oden in for Nara, but their CC isn't quite as good against a single target. If you need faster Daimon ults, you can also try Lyca on the frontline with Brutus/Thoran/Arthur for some haste

[astral wagon]

Oooh, alright! Ty

[primal mist]

good luck

[harsh urchin]

Aaaand im stuck on the very next stage

[astral wagon]

I made it to 21-57 😩

[harsh urchin]

I made it to the same cancerous teamwiper as the stage before

[astral wagon]

getting my ass whooped 2 pain

[harsh urchin]

Yh im out here with not even 50% of the enemys combat power what am i even supposed to do

[high marlin]

You'll get used to that

[foggy crest]

Im able to kill them but not before the time runs out

[high marlin]

Also I noticed all your heros are the same level

[primal mist]

Progress!

[high marlin]

Your carry needs to be 20-40 levels ahead of the rest of your team until you break the cap

[primal mist]

Try swapping Astar out for Shemira. Also, take a look at the pins in #classic-questions, especially the new player guides

[foggy crest]

Alright

[primal mist]

Try swapping Daimon and Thoran, swap Nara and Talene, and then swap out Nara for Silvina

[harsh urchin]

Got it on the 2nd try thx

[primal mist]

Noice. In general, keep tanks on the frontline, your carry (Daimon) on the backline along with supports

[harsh urchin]

Ah vedan is finally gone thank god

[vital kernel]

Unfortunately he made the beginner mistake of 5 legendary heroes so he's stuck at 140

[harsh urchin]

Yeah i still had that setup from just trying random things

[foggy crest]

Is daimon a good carry?

[high marlin]

Ah

[harsh urchin]

Yes

I hate this game

Im back to vedan again

[copper anvil]

Wondering what hero to take to mythic next.

I currently have enough copies for:
Rosaline, Kren, Pippa, Lyca, Grezhul, and Thoran.

I am at 14-34 currently

[silk ibex]

The best

[harsh urchin]

@primal mist anything here? Tried about everything i think

[primal mist]

Daimon

Thoran
Nara
Talene/Hogan/Golus
Arden/Silvina/Silas

[primal mist]

The best, for a long time

[foggy crest]

Who is it now?

[harsh urchin]

Daimon

[primal mist]

As in, he's the best carry until chapter 32, at least

[high marlin]

In early/mid game yes

[silk ibex]

@high marlin iirc you switch to Lucretia at some point?

[steady rain]

@primal mist sorry for pings :(

[high marlin]

Well this is end game boss fights so you can't have just 1

[harsh urchin]

Didnt work at first but then i did
Daimon
Talene
Nara
Thoran
Salis
And i got it

[high marlin]

Btw you can't use the same hero for more than 1 fight. Also links are a thing to remember as well

[fiery wing]

i tried to copy r3 including the arti but when i tried it, it always that flora at full health was left and thoran dies.. is there anything that I can do?

[harsh urchin]

@primal mist idk how to do all this man wtf is this ira and ogi

Even silvana

Honestly just every single one of them

[steady rain]

put talene frontline, put daimon backline

[harsh urchin]

Doesnt work

[high marlin]

Thoran strats can be very rng so just give it some time

Could also be your gear. What are you running on Thoran?

[fiery wing]

only t2 weap and boots

[high marlin]

Try to get a helmet on him. Nothing special just like a base t1

[primal mist]

Nara on Belinda. Also, if you have a mythic weapon on Fera, try swapping it for a legendary, it'll get his cc off before his other skill. Otherwise, that's a solid, standard lineup. You could also try to use Lyca instead of Fera

[frozen harness]

Use call in lorsan&ezizh and eye on thoran

[high marlin]

Holy crap didn't see the 5* call

[fiery wing]

aight wait

[frozen harness]

Ye 5*call in chap 35 is strong only got it like early 37

[fiery wing]

FUUUUUUUUUU

[frozen harness]

Does he lose against flora in the end?

[harsh urchin]

Can anyone help?

[high marlin]

Don't frontline diamon

[fiery wing]

he died at flora

[harsh urchin]

If i run this with daimon anywhere else it still loses

[frozen harness]

U used all active codes yet? Purely upgrading your heroes would be the key

[harsh urchin]

I have

[molten verge]

Hey guys, so I've been stuck for some days now and I'm thinking about changing Hendrik in my team. He really carried me for a while protecting my Daimon or my Desira but now he dies really fast and cannot do anything. I got a swap scroll and I don't really know how I should use it, i thought about changing Hendrik to something else and to change Desira to Silas but idk if it will make a difference

I also thought about waiting for a new hero then using a swap scroll if it's really good

[trail prawn]

could someone help. I looked at every lineup in afk helper but they didnt work or didnt have the heroes to do them. I dont have nara since i stopped playing for a while so i couldnt do boot camp.

[molten verge]

How do so much people have Ainz lol

[spark iris]

I've been stuck on this for a few weeks - any thoughts?
budget charm is the weakest of my teams, so I'm using them for team 4 (the others are ainz/alna gb/lucretia 5 pull)
(the power gap isn't big enough for thoran 🧀 , so I haven't used that)

I guess another option is to be less of a coward, and throw budget charm at one of the stronger teams, but I'm not sure what types of teams they do well against

[spark iris]

probably garrison

[primal mist]

Swap Scrolls are a question for #classic-questions - we're really not equipped to deal with that here

[primal mist]

Share box? Try
Daimon/Ainz

Tank
Healer/CC/Ainz
Tank
Brutus
For reference, I cleared it with basically that. Frontline was Lyca/Thoran, backline was Daimon, Rowan, Brutus. Took a lot of retries

[drowsy gazelle]

isnt this a cheese comp

[spark iris]

what do you mean? there are other 🧀 besides thoran & lucretia?

[drowsy gazelle]

no i mean, arent this r4 supposed to be cheesed by thoran

[spark iris]

does thoran 🧀 even work at 55 deficit?

[drowsy gazelle]

i think so? why wouldnt it

[vagrant ibex]

Try
Brutus rowan
Lyca/daimon/oden mehir raku

[drowsy gazelle]

@spark iris did u even check afkhelper man

[spark iris]

I did, but haven't tried most of the options
eg brutus is dim linked to someone important
or I can't use thoran 🧀
or etc

I'll play around with other budget charm variants
thx

[spark iris]

worked like a charm
many thanks

I really need to spend the diamonds to unlink brutus or deal with gimped ainz team

[vagrant ibex]

Its ok i think cuz Brutus is rarely used on 35 above but on that enemy set up id saw satrana there and u pick charm team to used so i suggest brutus :)

Especially when you have 5* call you dont need bruty anymore i guess

[spark iris]

so brutus is good for countering satrana?

[scarlet pebble]

Any suggestions for this stage? Or am I basically stuck until I get some more levels/ascension?

[full finch]

can I get some help how to beat ainz comp in pvp without mirroring? Albedo, Arthur, Merlin, Ezio (or Ferael), Ainz

[vagrant ibex]

Ye since satrana burn is sick af so bruty immune is a nice counter

@scarlet pebble if you have nara try to pull isabel or just used arden.. honestly ainz is not a gud carry early on

@full finch alna grezz or do something with lorsan haste and link

[scarlet pebble]

Oh yeah, I just threw him in for one try then went back to Oden. I tried Arden, but he just gets interrupted then dies before getting to use the vines.

[timber cape]

Any way to beat this stage or do I need to level up charas? Till now I heavily relied on luck but now it seems I can't get it with best Pippa skill rolls

[safe hazel]

Read beginner guide in #classic-questions you need to stop ascending A tier heroes

[safe hazel]

Suggestions I’m over 1M power so I think it should be doable

[sacred vale]

Hello, suggestions? Im stuck

[final hazel]

It prob the assassin lady messing u up so if uheroes just dying switch them out

[supple marten]

hey I haven't played this game in over a year but the top row is my team as of now. what should I run? I have 50 scrolls to spend and want to make sure my wishlist has what I need

[royal stag]

Start a new account

[supple marten]

why

what's the point of that? @royal stag

[royal stag]

Ur server is older then mine what means everyone is way stronger then u @supple marten

[smoky lava]

I'm getting smacked and I'm only 90% of their level

[vapid blade]

whats a good team that can use Morrow?

[harsh urchin]

Anyone know a way to beat this stage because damn

They dont fucking die because of that damn sheep and shields its so triggering

[safe hazel]

Swap talene and hogan

Them swap Arden for silvina

[harsh urchin]

Arden insta dies because of silvina btw but ill try

Yh nah i got destroyed

[safe hazel]

Level mirael instead of daimon

[limpid drift]

Kill the sheep!

[harsh urchin]

cant

doesnt die

[limpid drift]

Have you tried nara opposite?

[harsh urchin]

yep

[limpid drift]

Damn

Have you used a merc already?

[safe hazel]

I think you should use mirael + daimon carry

Daimon needs cc but you don’t have any tbh

[harsh urchin]

nah im trying to save it for the boss

[safe hazel]

Put daimon in your crystal and level mirael for now

[oblique lava]

Who should I focus on lvling up?

[safe hazel]

Read beginner guide

[harsh urchin]

alright

[safe hazel]

In #classic-questions

[safe hazel]

You just need more xp as well tbh

[harsh urchin]

yeahh but its hard to get any rn because ive done like everything already

[safe hazel]

You pushed PoT with luc?

Luc with red star is broken for PoT

[harsh urchin]

luc?

[safe hazel]

Or any lab style thing where health carries over battles

[safe hazel]

Lucrieta

[harsh urchin]

no not yet

ill merc her then

[safe hazel]

I’d say merc saurus and lucrieta every week

[harsh urchin]

alright

saurus is good for bosses right?

[safe hazel]

You wanna use him in guild boss primarily as well

[harsh urchin]

ill try that then

[digital pumice]

I’m having some troubles and suggestions

[frigid aspen]

i feel like this is prob easy or smth but i’m pretty new so idk. please help :,)

[digital pumice]

Use throan as your tank

[safe hazel]

Read pinned guide in #classic-questions

[safe hazel]

Hogan instead of rosa

[vagrant ibex]

@digital pumice if you have nara try to pull isabela .. also put thoran ,lorsan , brutus on crystal

[harsh urchin]

Dont have anyone on my friendslist with luc red star u got someone?

[woven mason]

Need help with this one, everything on Afk helper has at least something different then I have

[safe hazel]

Join a good guild

[harsh urchin]

I was stuck on this lol

[safe hazel]

You need one for TR and for hunting fields

[harsh urchin]

Alright

How do i find good guilds tho

Oh there is a guild channel

[safe hazel]

Yh if you want I can give you mine it’s pretty good and they let beginners in

[harsh urchin]

Sure thing

[safe hazel]

Code is 895403

[harsh urchin]

Ill apply in 1 hour i guess

[woven mason]

^

[safe hazel]

Who’s the penguin?

[ebon hazel]

Skriath

[safe hazel]

Doesn’t he just need to ascend kren to A then

[ebon hazel]

And Warek

And a better Brutus too

[fiery wing]

its hard to eirron pull that cause nara

rowan

grez
mirael
brutus
rosa follows mira

[harsh urchin]

cant join because im not lvl 50 yet

[safe hazel]

Rip didn’t realise that was a requirement

[harsh urchin]

yep :/

[safe hazel]

Join any level 9 guild then and you should be fine

If your other guild didn’t have a lucrieta merc they were probably bad anyway

[harsh urchin]

there were a couple good guys in there but mostly beginners

[sullen warren]

Need help pls

[harsh urchin]

how did u get past 37

[sullen warren]

37? Why

[harsh urchin]

im stuck at 9-37

[sullen warren]

I did the 37 like that

[plush skiff]

@sullen warren this is how I did 9-40

[harsh urchin]

damn wish i had rowan then

[harsh urchin]

how are u so low in campaign

[safe hazel]

read the guide in #classic-questions that box is 💀

[plush skiff]

I just didnt play campaign much when I first started now im just grinding it out ig

[plush skiff]

Ok sure, but tbh i just play the game the way I find it the most fun and didn’t join here for people to be judgmental

[safe hazel]

nah its all good it doesn't matter you can play how you want

i'd just recommend you to read the guide since it helps a lot

[plush skiff]

Ok will do

[sullen warren]

Gg Chapter 10

Yesss

Lol

[glad ledge]

Any ideas for a better lineup in campaign?

Kinda need Aster so the Frontlinie stays alive in any way for more then 1second but dont know if this is optimal.
(I wouldn't mind changing up the RC Heroes or stuff if I missed any got options rn...)

[royal stag]

Grezhul, Brutus, Daimon, Oden, Ferael

[worthy helm]

What should I pick?

[thorny wyvern]

Hey guys! So I'm doing a new account for fun and I wanted to run pretty much what I'm running right now. The 5 characters leveled up are what I'm running. But Trenzor feels a little underwhelming, any suggestions on other options that might fit his role or does he get better as you invest more into him?

Additionally, anyone from any faction that fits the rest of the team well would be appreciated. I'm buffing Silas and Desire with attack buffs for more healing, and Thorne's there as he's the best candidates for multiple buffs for my purposes.

[worthy oracle]

What 3 teams should I use for legends tournament?
Luc is 1 copy from a, and 9f, izold is 1 fodder from a and 3f.
2nd pic is current setup.

[gaunt pasture]

What should I run for PvE? Talene its the try one ,not mine

[mossy galleon]

Can someone help please

[sharp horizon]

Hello guys I need help and some advices, what should I focus on to upgrade or buying please

[limpid drift]

Oof, you need to stop making L’s

Wait until you have another e+ of the hero to go straight To L+ otherwise you will stall your progress

[sharp horizon]

Aye

So what should I do now to lvl up :(

[safe hazel]

save both for when you need last copy

[safe hazel]

read beginner guide in #classic-questions what ch are you?

[sharp horizon]

S525

[viscid plume]

I'm fairly new so can someone give tips on my lineup?

[pale kettle]

Some ideas?

[viscid plume]

I have orthos, gwenyth, thoron, thane and talene

[safe hazel]

chapter in campaign

[safe hazel]

read guide in #classic-questions

[final hazel]

Try moving them around?

Not much help you can get here with just that

[cunning warren]

why is wu kong ascended and why do you have so many Ls

[limber mortar]

Just unlocked stargazing and got twins. Should I change my team now? I’m using a eirron suck to thoran stun team

@ me if you have an answer bc I’ll probably forget I posted this

[fluid spoke]

passed it bu ty

[fleet pewter]

Currently stuck, can anyone help?

[safe hazel]

twins isn't used in campaign

[limber mortar]

mk

[safe hazel]

Beatable?

Ainz and daimon both have +20 and I’m working on getting albedo +30

[shadow steeple]

Stuck in the mud :)

[limpid drift]

I think my comp was AAA Silas and ezio at this point. Defo doable.

Is it close?

[summer cedar]

Daimon Golus Astar Mira Arden

[primal mist]

I’m quite stuck on this one, any ideas?

[summer cedar]

Luc belongs in 5p or invade. She has no synergy with Arthur or Albedo other than as barricade carriers. you can drop Luc for Ainz and prolly clear this, or you can swap the whole comp out for something that fits Luc better

[summer cedar]

unlikely with this comp. it's half a daimon comp, half an ainz comp, and combined they're less than what they can be.
Since gres provides teamwide MR, a Daimon comp will likely have more success.

[summer cedar]

not enough CC in this comp to warrant joker. try checking the site

[wooden bison]

The site?

[summer cedar]

you've largely outgrown an E+ Thoran. the bottom side appears to be light on damage so you can front Daimon most likely.
Try Brutus Daimon Oden PoP Fera

[summer cedar]

pinned, afkhelper

[wooden bison]

I put Joker only to avoid athalia chain

[summer cedar]

you can just as easily put Lyca there for haste, or Fera there since his passive works after death.

[wooden bison]

I see

Does multi fight mean the fights in campaign with 5 different teams or a team for multiple fights like voyages

[summer cedar]

all AGI heroes have similar dodge rates (barring kelthur kaz ezio). so in that case, and be honest, I'm sure Joker dies almost instantly every time, you'd prefer an AGI hero who also provides utility after death, or even an Ezizh bc again, utility after death. Or Brutus cuz he can stall Atha. Point is, Joker fits in comps with more CC, not a comp where he's primed to die instantly

[summer cedar]

it means campaign

[primal mist]

I've kept E+ Thoran for the AOE fear, didn't realize that he really wasn't helping much until you pointed it out. Not sure if Oden will work on this stage since Silvi goes after him instantly, but I'll give it a shot. Thanks!

[wooden bison]

I wasn't lying man. He dodges her chain pretty much every retry

Times at the top for proof to

Btw whats an agi?

[tight juniper]

Agility

[summer cedar]

oh derp mb. i forget ab silvi a lot these days. she's completely gone from my chapters. You can try playing either rowan or Lyca instead then. Rowan can often tank the first strike

[wooden bison]

Ah

[primal mist]

Makes sense, I'll try them out

[hollow basalt]

Hlep

[summer cedar]

it's not the first strike I care about. The point is, does Atha kick him around the field like a ragdoll? Does he ever get to proc AoA or his ult? Does he live past 1:20, and if he does, what utility does his survival provide?

[primal mist]

Try Oden instead of Lucretia - she needs to be at least M before she's good

[hollow basalt]

Ty I'll try that

[wooden bison]

Ah I see. Honestly I can't answer that since I think the deficit is to high. Everyone gets insta killed including the tanks

[hollow basalt]

Rosaline behind talene

[glad ledge]

Without the faction bonus everything just instadies on my side, golus that much better then thoran?

[summer cedar]

exactly. So, what utility is Joker providing here that can't be replaced? If he's not CC'ing, he doesn't belong.
Lyca belongs. Even if she dies instantly, she provides teamwide haste and energy before death.
Ezizh belongs. Even after dying, he provides continuous teamwide energy.
Brutus belongs. He's guaranteed to stall Atha for at least 8s.
Get the idea?

[hollow basalt]

No dice, talene, thoran and wu Kong get 2-3 shot ko too quick

[wooden bison]

Yehh Makes sense. Joker would regularly do like 1/3 of ainzs damage so I thought of him as a viable sub dps I guess.

[summer cedar]

he's two ascensions higher, so he should be. Arden should also be rooting Saveas

[summer cedar]

and he can be - just not on this stage bc of the position you put him in. nobody's going to be a good sub DPS when played across an enemy atha - they'll struggle just to survive. so get some utility out of that position anyway.

[glad ledge]

Yeah Arden is rooting saveas, but saveas 2 shots the daimon, before the root even starts. Golus dies in the same timely manner. I just suppose I have to wait to level more

[fresh raven]

I need 3 formations for temporal rift please

https://afkhelper.nax.is/the_brutal_citadel.php?floor=429

^^for whoever asked that last question and deleted, those are all winning lineups people had sorted by theyre level for campaign and towers

[pure flare]

Any helpers? Got few slots in resonating crystal

[primal mist]

Lyca worked! Took some retries to get lucky with the fragility and some dodges and crits

[summer cedar]

there's always luck involved

[safe hazel]

Been stuck on this for a while nothing works

[primal mist]

Try CC/haste for Daimon?

[safe hazel]

Like what lyca?

[primal mist]

Yeah, or if you have it, Fera or Oden or PoP

[sage yarrow]

or dont double down on ainz+albedo this early
i'd just do Daimon Tasi Fereal if you have Tasi, frontline can be Brutus and something else that stalls like Thoran early on

[thorny fulcrum]

Helpe get to floor 40 of each factions tower! Looking for suggestions on what changes I can make to my resonator crystal to help me get to floor 40. I am at 20 on each tower so far, was easy to get there.

[primal mist]

Your lineups are pretty good, you might just need to get rc 180

[swift linden]

Anyway I could beat this?

[warm yew]

@safe hazel i was actually stuck on that one, follow me through my id

132698632, my clear is there (that's a boss stage right?)

[primal mist]

I'd take Desira off for Fera, Saurus off for Lyca, Lucius off for Morrow

[primal mist]

Shemira falls off around ch15/16 as a carry, I'd take her out. Put Eironn backline and add Thoran on the front. Also, I recommend taking a look at Bok's early game guide pinned in #classic-questions, it'll help you reform your lineup and RC and make some easy progress

[swift linden]

Damn taking my highest hero off lmao I would have never thought of that I’ll try it

I got rolled think ima just need to afk for a few days and hopeful get good roles

[primal mist]

Happens. Don't give up, Shemira is still decent enough that you might be able to eke out wins with some retries

[swift linden]

yeah just a few days ago i pushed like maybe 2 chapters and now im stuck on this

So she did me good for a bit

[spark iris]

she really only has 2 uses

1. rush ascensions (most ppl say it's not worth it though)
2. evil sheep TR (I have her at A, but I still have to merc anyway)

[astral horizon]

im prolly gonna use a swap for her n swap the awakened talene and my shemiras tier

[spark iris]

you can't swap cele/hypos

swapping for tiers alone is also not generally advised

[astral horizon]

big oof

[stone lantern]

What would be a good lineup here, been playing for a little bit and I know I’m not high up there but any team would do, don’t know what the current “meta” is

[primal mist]

Check out the pins in #classic-questions, they’ve got a good explanation of the meta. In particular, Bok’s 4-page early game guide is fantastic

There’s gonna be a good chunk of info that’s gonna make you sad about your current box choices, but it’s all salvageable

[wheat wigeon]

Any idea how to beat this stage?

[spark iris]

thx

[lusty spindle]

Anyone have full line up for the talene guild trials that works for 500?

[stoic lynx]

What comps should I be building for pve

my comp rn is daimon brutus rowan fareal lyca and switch in tasi for something if needed

[cedar lotus]

help please :') new player but I want a good line-up that can just mow through almost every level in arena / story line

[primal mist]

Share box

[primal mist]

I highly recommend the Early Game guide by Bok. It's pinned in #classic-questions, and will give the same directions I will just in better detail and without forgetting random important facts

[wheat wigeon]

i have 4 free slots in RC

[primal mist]

Was just about to ask 😄

I recommend, for that fight and many through ch 22 or so, that you use something like this
Daimon

Brutus/Thoran/Lyca
Rowan (Raine or Silas can work but are worse)
Brutus/Thoran/Lyca
Nara/Ferael/Arden (Nara for stages with single high dps units, like Isa/Mira/Belinda)