#lineup-help
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No competition honestly
I feel like anywhere besides top level ainz comp rules all
Is it possible to get ainz now or is he kinda gone?
I started when he first got released
i started at hodgkin/merlin release
is getting them from garrison permanent? i saw that its only a 30 day thing
when u borrowed him 6x it becomes free so 30 days forever is permanent
oh
Yeah only real disadvantage is its more expensive then when they first released
And you have to have a friend with that character
do they ahve to be online? i have too many friends that are long gone
They have to be able to except the request
You can add me my buddy borrows my ainz and I can still lend it to 4 others
How do I do this stage? Silas keeps dieing from the assassin girl
No matter where I put him
dont use silas 
should i put him frontline and sac him
then she targets belinda
Yep
If you could level a Brutus just till he get invincibility
oh hes already 120
He needs to be lowest hp though
yeah now it took belinda
So Maybe give him no gear
Nice, God tier on my suggestion game tonight lol
I abuse cheese methods like Brutus invincibility
lmao everytime my belinda dies it doesnt affect much
maybe, though when he dies instead of belinda i still win, maybe i just dont need more than 1 person to die
Some people go a different route and build daimon (who I admit is a beast) but I built izold as my first carry besides ainz
yeah i heard daimon is good and ainz is a close 2nd or something sad i dont have either
oh
is it worth getting the purple equipment for coins?
If you mean gold then yes
yea gold
Might as well, but don't waste too much on upgrading it, it's all useless once you get mythic
But upgrade armour sometimes to get through a hard level, you can use as upgrade material later anyway
Funny thing by the way
Izold is a warrior but tanks better than daimon, and daimon is a tank but does damage quicker than izold
should i worry about arena of heroes? the lowest power level thing i see is 950k
even if i lose every single one?
And save the replay tickets for when you care
Honestly yes, it completes daily quest quick, you lose Nothing and if you win you get loot
And weekly diamonds when they reset ranks
oh huh it says I’m rank 86 is that good?
Top 100 in your server
so it is good
purple equipment from where
ah ok yeah i thought so, its like 4000k per piece
I used it to get through slumps but I was a super noob
Had like no help
Star gazed for wukong
Picked free zaph over free lucretia TWICE
I was a fool
oh btw i have almost a leveled yellow wukong have i fucked up or am i ok
like the ascend level before red
That's good, in all choice chest pick the celestial
if you’ve been buying him from the stores or gazed for him then yes
But in the store with wukong you need to buy arthur first
ah then yeah i fucked up
I don't think he's unlocked gazing
cant stargaze but I’ve gotten him from store
yeah you kinda messed up don’t continue buying him buy arthur instead
Honestly that's not too bad he's useful rn, but arthur is a must
also a free one for returnee bonus or some shit
he’s not good past 100 so yes it’s bad
Yeah but I'm sure he was decently useful since he's legendary, plus he just did a push with him
What do i do for this stage? After eironn pulls people he dies
why is he frontline
idk i tried him backline and same thing
belinda out put hogan frontline
Still doesn't work spear guy kills everyone and nothing really stops him
Even if i put eironn to pull him he just dies
Did you put eirron in the last spot behind the rank?
Yes
Ah
oh astar
It worked ty
it didn’t end up working, seems they just heal too much
Have her front line?
Yep
make rowan frontline if she dies
Yeah I was gonna say if it doesn't work move up rowan
Yep
Why haven't you built Oden? 🤨
I had a strange intro to this game
Never built Oden nor shemeria
Oden carried me while I saved for ainz though
I kept trying to phase him out but he kept doing too good
i live a bit longer with that but i dont think im strong enough to win still
What do I do here
I've tried moving eironn everywhere in the vackling nothing worked
Move gorvo up and eirron to top
Worked ty
Gorvo has a stun that can keep eirron alive
Especially when they're grouped up by him
usually daimon gets banished by tasi, is there a way around it
Yeah gorvo fucked off to narnia but eironn didn't die somehow
also no one is getting their ult off besides daimon
No I think she targets highest attack rating
ig ill just spam retry sinec i had one which actually killed a few units
You could also try tasi front daimon back
ive been stuck here for like 5 days help 
wdym
assassin targets isabella since the silvina teleports away before athalia can get to her
The girl in the top right of your screen shot, she teleports to lowest hp unit on your team at the start of battle
assassin targets silas
Wait you have ainz
ye. he will be M+ soon
Take out Silas put luscious front row and slap in ainz
Assassin should target athalia
ainz got targeted
No he just must have no hp
he has 131k
Give him an hp relic
and no gear athalia has 86k
Oh
Well damn, have athalia gear back up and place get across from the assassin and see if she can stop her
silvina doesnt get cc'd by athalia lock thing
hes elite+ at lvl 160
Can you get ainz to have more hp than him
did it
Replace athalia or thoran with him
Get rid of ainz and put in anyone else strong
she either teleports to ainz and gets rid of half his hp or goes to silas and deletes him
But keep low hp brutus
i dont rlly have anyone else besides an L+ eiiron and izold
Try both
i got a ferael too
Since you're not using ainz you can use horse girl if you need that
Who does she target?
brutus
Does she get sucked by eirron?
Switch eirron and daimon
And Brutus and lusuis switch
I can't spell rn
i can kill almost all except isabelle whoops daimon on ult
Ight I think we gotta see relics
i got other relics on my original layout
Give everyone a relic but keep daimon with only call, and make sure Brutus is only target
Unless you don't have dupe relics yet
still didnt work
Dang
idk how ppl pass these
i got a guild mate who uses gwyneth and kren and they fly through the stages
You're 2 chapters ahead of me and I've got ascended Daimon with lvl20 stitchy
I'm sure they just need an acensension and they'll wreck
i started when lucretia and zaphrael was realeased and stopped for like a year so i got ainz then
help thanks
nvm cleared
Send the stage your struggling on
You should be flying through campaign unless your still using Lucius
i’m stuck on 9-18
daimon
Look at beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
Thank you both
yw :)
Level 5 fodder is the main thing you need to focus on rn
Replace tasi with Arden
should i use thoran instead of brutus
Use both and see what’s better for you rn
If that doesn’t work swap daimon and lyca so lyca can be used as a sacrifice
ok ty :)
@trail prawn try
Thoran brutus
Daimon fera oden/nara/lyca/lorsan
Keep tryn .. if thoran doesnt cursed anyone moved him to backline
My Thoran is only getting 1 ult off anything I could change to get 2?
I think you just need to wait for him to get enough kills, so he can gain his energy back. Or maybe your artifacts are wrong?
What can I do here? Belinda/Gwyn get fawked and Rosa doesn't know what to do until they get back out. But then they either die instantly or Belinda is a bit too slow to kill everyone because everyone is spread on the field.
Who i should put in resonate crystal? Right now my team comp is Daimon, thoran, oden, rowan, astar. But i feel like overall performance is not okay
I have too many GB units. Any suggestions for besting this stage? I have 1 crystal slot open if I need somebody else
Let me see all your units
lyca wouldn’t be a bad choice
You should put Silas on the RC.
Another GB 🙃 should I remove anyone?
I've tried using the twins but they're so soft that I've never seen their ult
Athalia and Silvina shred my backline heroes no matter who I put and it’s always Belinda/Shemira left with 10% health or less. Any suggestions?
rowan
shemira
brutus
talene
belinda
Anyone able to help me with a lineup here?
You could get skriath mythic right now
i'm actually opting for rowan M more
No, I'm missing some fodder
Yeah just realized
Same for fereal, I can make him A when I get 13 more GB rares
I never fodder non fodder units
Me neither. I just need to pull something like 40 rares to make Rowan M, skriath M, and Fereal A
So close
But no diamonds or scrolls
wait for MV
What's that?
oh nvm ur c14
Chapter
What is MV though?
misty valley
a great way to get fodders
actually the best way
but its a monthly reset
the best way
Anyone able to help me figure out who i should use the exchange scroll on? Currently in ch 24 for it, should have it by the end of today
Some save it
I had a trash character and wanted another carry so I used mine
Did ascended anoki into izold
Im just hard stuck in tower floor 300 and want to clear it
You really need to upgrade ainz and albedo sig items
Have both to mythic tier, just waiting on dimensional frags for the rest at the moment
For who to switch, maybe numasu or whatever for maybe daimon
What does ot feel like you're lacking
At current moment back line is being fried due to assassins jumping on them, ainz survives enough for one ult, but no time for the second one
Tried repositioning him to out of line
Same results
I'd switch either totem guy, belinda, Brutus or rosaline for daimon
Daimon is the zombie guy with the moving hulk right?
Yeah
Alright, ill try that, Thank you!
The floating one
I am just terrible with names XD
Crippled dio brando
Not orthos lol
Orthros is the world, not dio
Asking again, anyonr think this is doable? My box is just below the linked photo
Try lb fodder and mauler fodder front row then the other two fodder back row with daimon
Funny, that's what I've been trying the last 15 minutes 
They last between 1 and 2 seconds
Do i make rain legendary + here
I think so, is there a list in here?
I'm not sure here
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Should i use her as fodder and feed it to lucius
I don't use anyone besides fodder as fodder cause I'm a horder
Plus she has niche boss use
she does she increases my boss dmg by 40% but she sucks for most other uses
Im kinda stuck so i dont know where to go
No
You're going to fodder an actual good hero to a shit hero. 
show me the stage
I was missing 1 code, pulled a rare ankhira and some unneeded fodder. Still can't make skriath M
i see
Damn
Put Mirael in the middle.
lucius*
Which tank, do you recommend i dont uave many and might have to add to crystal
@whole cliff
ill take a look now thanks limo
If that doesn't work try tracking daimon
Or put Brutus wherever shemeria targets so someone doesn't just get deleted
daimon top mirael swap with old man
Damn my exact suggestion 😳
😉
Do you have Nara?
How do yall know these things and what class is he so i can check
I know because I'm at ch14 and recently completed 13-19
My go-to has been:
Fereal
thoran
Rowan
Daimon
Oden
Nara? She's graveborn hook girl.
your gb looks fine
Did you use the mythic chest early game? The Lucius, Khasos, Nemora, Nara, or scrolls chest yet?
How many Rowan copies ?
Or is it this one
No
No, this specific chest. Did you use it?

Save this chest for ur 4th Rowan copy
Nemora isn't bad but she's a bad healer. She's only good for her charm or 9f effect.
Ah i see
Put Eironn in ur Crystal
Who should i take out, prolly one of the gb right
Ulmus
Ok thanks!
Any ideas how to clear this one
Fereal
. Thoran/hogan/golus
Nara/Rowan
. Daimon
Oden
maybe replace arden with mirael so she can hit belinda and everyone else
Thanks any ideas on this one? Lol
Any advice on this guy?
this is easy deficit just work on the idea that ideally you should have 1 carry 1 tank and 3 supports and just experiment (sometimes 2 tanks 2 supports) otherwise you have to rely on #lineup-help
ideally you should avoid using lucius as well since he's very weak
swap arden and rowan
and lucius and astar and you'll probably be able to clear this one
need help with this stage, as well as what to put on who
remove fereal weapon then switch brutus and thoran place then try again
Sorry, who to replace ferael with?
no just remove fereals weapon
Oh! What for?
just try it first then reply here after
or
fereal (remove weapon)
thoran
nara
daimon
rowan
show full hero box
This one got me a bit closer but no luck yet.
try rng
fera
brutus
nara
rowan
daimon
Thanks @silk burrow and @fiery wing! Combo of your suggestions did the trick. Fera, thoran, Nara, Rowan, Daimon did the trick!

Any teams
Wait for more people to chime in, but I'd reset Rowan and put all the character xp into Daimon instead. Also, have you read the beginner guide in #classic-questions? It doesn't look like it
What would be my ideal line up?
Idk what to put there im hardstuck here, everything gets wiped in seconds .
team comp suggestions?
I have 1 open RC slot. Asked earlier and was told Morrow but I pulled a few more units so I’m wondering if I should still do Morrow.
Brutus
Why use him over Thoran?
Best early game tank he has 4+ seconds immunity when he dies
can someone help me with a good team comp
Team comp suggestions? Stuck on stage 8-32
Team comp help I’m stuck on this
that’s kinda hard to help with since none of those are carries. i would honestly recommend starting over but this time reading the beginner guide that’s pinned in #classic-questions
Damn I gotta start all over 😭
The thing is you literally will get past where you are in a few days if you follow the efficient start plan, you've already wasted some precious resources to make Ls
Without a carry you're gonna be stuck pretty hard
yeah lol that’s like a days worth of progress
it’ll be easier once you actually get good heroes
Yup lol my alt from two days ago is on ch11
Also imo the best part of starting over will be to play in a way where you learn how the game mechanics work
and how to maximize your resources that are quite limited for F2P
I am currently using grezhul and lucius as tank and back line are shemira and belinda
Who should I have on the third slot?
shemira belinda lucius out don’t invest in them also we can’t even help you with that question since we don’t know what you have
what chapter are you?
25
hm you hero roster is kinda hard to make teams out of since they’re all heroes that aren’t meta no more except grez
Any ideas? Can't seem to build around this one
why are you mercing a 203 izold lol merc a maxed one
Who should I use as my 3 supports and should I use thoran or lucius
have you read the beginner guide?
Yeah at least boks
then don’t use either shem or lucius
Who is shem
shemira
yes and level up fodder like in the beginner guide
Ok but who should I use for supports
Other than oden in the guide it says lyca is good but it talks about having daimon and I don’t have daimon
a healer like rowan or silas would be good
Unfortunately I don’t have them
just keep pushing and you’ll get more diamonds to be able to do more summons
I don’t have any of the supports mentioned in the beginners guide so would this be an ok lineup? (For the future after I unlock the crystal thingy)
what should campaign line up be? I was originally using daimon/thoran/silas/athalia/lucius

Now that i have the resonating crystal which ascended heroes should i put on it.
I'm not that pro at the game, but my suggestion is Daimon, Thoran, Silas, Oden
and maybe Pippa
I'm not sure 😅
But definitely Daimon and Thoran imo
i will try that and see how it goes ill tell you when ive tried it
my turn :)
help please
whatever works works
fereal
thoran
rowan
brutus
daimon
ty
fereal (no weap)
grez
nara
daimon
oden
help pls
Try this @swift cairn
okay ill try it out
Does anyone have a no cheese run of 37-28? I can't stand using thoran and his rng
very new to this game, any advices on my lineup for my campaign, arena and bosses? Thanks
You should read the beginner guide, doesn't look like you're following the recommended path. It's pinned in #classic-questions
15 heros for temporal rift?
1 daimon
2 grez
3 hodgkin
4 silas
5 disera
6 ainz
7albeepboop(albedo)
8 merlin
9 da vinky
10 arthur
11
12
13
14
15
i suggest use heroes from your beacon
lucretia 5 pull for third temporal team or replacements for ainz and gb
okay so no 5 pull, replacement supports?
who else works in gb and/or ainz team
my beacon is tank>mage>support
try asking in #923167176477773874
oh thanks
Suggestions? Mirael just destroys me 🥲
put rowan middle back, and replace astar with golus
also read the pins in questions for Some extra tips on who to build and stuff
Got destroyed even more 😅 I already read the pins 😃 @dull bay
daimon
-thoran
rowan
-brutus
oden
Hard stuck here.. Can someone please help?
Fawks coffins daimon and thane destroys my team
@pale kettle this actually worked somehow, tyvm
Eizizh si30 needed ?
or these, its much better than cheesing talene i tell u
It's costly
and no, ezizh is fine at E
I tried with e ezizh my thoran ults but only 2 dying I tried this from today morningoning
Before getting to ch 31 and past what characters should i start building for more than one team?
Thoran si30
Raku30 mehira e+ windbinder
Lucretia 30
Daimon team
These are easy and strong one
Please help, it's the last stage before I can get some furniture
Numisu seems to be the biggest issue, he can stall Daimon forever
Every time I ask for help rng suddenly kicks in. Been trying to beat this for an hour, now it just suddenly worked
stuck in ch26, need a good campaign team, have a bunch of fodder saved up but idk who to invest in
I want my team to have ainz and rosaline, so far i have grezhul and rowan as tanks and tasi with them, any other ideas ?
I cannot beat this stage, suggestions?
Idk what to do I'm just stuck here
why are you doing ainz so early lol
i like overlord!
have you read the beginner guide in #classic-questions
What should I do?
OK
@silk burrow @primal mist https://imgur.com/a/T0WEsKB
why don’t you use rowan
I've tried a bunch of setups, this is just what jhawk said he almost beat it with
oh well keep in mind his heroes might be more invested in
Mine are less, actually. I'm only ahead on the support hero levels
nara isn't that useful there
i use that exact lineup just ainz instead
make sure stitchy follows thoran and you should be good if you replace nara
How do I make him follow thoran?
What did you use in place of Nara? Lyca? Rowan? Rosa?
help pls
What do you need help with?
i just want to know what the best lineup i could get from these characters is
cus im starting to struggle in chapter 9
thanks
Something like this
Daimon
Thank
Support
Tank
Support
Tanks: Toran, Golus, Brutus, Hogan
Supports: Arden/Pippa/Tasi/Lyca/Numisu/Rowan/Oden/Rosaline/Ferael/silas/Eironn/Silvina
I'd RC Farael and Thoran soon, they're good cc support for Daimon comps
oh ic
Eironn can work well with Daimon but generally requires Daimon to outlevel the rest of your team
Any suggestions for what I should try?
can you send a normal pic of the stage
daimon
rowan
arden?
lyca/brutus/talene
fera
idk how arden works so switch him and fera if you need to
Time to reequip everyone
Does Rowan work as a tank at such a low level, without T2 gear?
maybe? mine was able to tank a bit without good gear iirc
No difference, ran it 15 times
sry my phone died, but tysm
Need help
is this fine
i used ainz
and daimon as a sub dps/tank whilst thoran was resurrecting behind him
Hard to explain but he always goes for the frontline most downward
So if he’s back right he goes for right back middle he goes right and back left he goes left if that makes sense
Yh that’s good
Didn't really understand. What's back right?
Here daimon would be back right
So if I swapped daimon and ainz stitch goes to thoran
But if I swap daimon and fera it goes to Brutus
I see. Still confused why it's called back right, but what you're saying is stitch goes downward diagonally?
Yeah
I just call it back right since I just see frontline as right and left units
Is that shared terminology in here? I've just been referring to numbers 1-5
Nope it is not
Idk what the numbers are in formation lemme check
3
1
4
2
5
Yeah, that’s a solid formation to save. It won’t work automatically all the time, but it’s a great starter
ok ty :)
ty too
could someone help me with a lineup to clear. I've been stuck here all week lol
Brutus thoran daimon ainz fera
Like this
Read pins on #classic-questions as well
I'm still a little new, bit of help?
Just something I would recommend is trying to get shemira higher ascended and put her on the resonating crystal as she can carry you through a lot of chapters you may need to drop her in chapter 25 or 28 someone can correct me if I’m wrong
What should I do with the rest of my team?
Bad advice @plush raven look at pins on #classic-questions
stop getting heroes L if you cant L+. L+ fodder and when you get hero copies, save them at e+ unless its daimon. Try to get daimon since he can get you to chap 35 i think at ascended. for now use kren, mirael, rowan, satrana, and alna/brutus. correct me if im wrong
since im not the best at line up formations
Not sure about that I haven’t really used most of those
But I wouldn’t recommend mirael and rowan in same formation until later since they both go back middle early game
alr so instead of mirael they could use respen? I dont know alot about him but i think he can do good dmg
or is mirael just used for hero fire shield thing
If I were him I’d go satrana mirael solise alna wu kong
don't do that shemira is thrash
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stop making A tier heroes at L, only the L tier heroes make them L+ ASAP
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don't use shemira or try to get shemira from any means
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afk, do dailies, do candy crush, do PoT, merc an Ainz
Yo that helped alot thanks
Np just follow the guide otherwise you’re progress will stunt I ignored it kinda and now my progress has slowed because i made some dumb decisions
@exotic ore look there’s another moose
Can someone help please
Is this a good comp so far?
Cleared with some additional mythic gear on Ferael
I need the 5 best possible pvp teams please
For tower of light I have Hendrik and Rowan frontline. Backline Belinda Rosaline Gwyneth. Should I also build Morrow for backline? To replace who? Gwyneth has almost no investment at L as of now due to poor RNG so almost no copies 😔 but hopefully soon
Who should I prioritize to ascend next? Just did Daimon and replaced him with Silas on the wishlist. Should I be doing the 3000 gem pull with the selectable rate up or still do the 2700 gem pulls?
Who should I level and put in my team? Btw I don’t know names of people so pls tell me like what number left to right thx
Morrow will easily replace Gwyneth in that lineup but I’m not sure how high priority he is to invest in. You don’t have enough copies of anyone yet to consider investing fodder in them, and if you were going to HCP anyone I’d recommend Raine
I also have the chest to select either Astar or 10 stargaze scrolls.
stargaze
I guess I'll try to ascend Hendrik and Rosaline, if no one else worth still has copies then Lucius too, cheers
Thanks. Got Mortas from it.

Good lineup?
What teams y'all using for dismal maze, no dim/gb is a rough one
Thali Saurus Tasi Mehira Raku and Alna Lucre Ezizh Talene Twins; only casualty was raku on 3rd floor final boss
Yaight, was it first or second team you used for floor 1-2
Actually second team is dope I've never used luc and alna together before lol
oh wait im also dumb i have a luc merced and a teamates luc to use 
thesku antandra cycle and raku 5-pull 
nope luc and luc time 
my raku in my second team just out-dps'd a 309e60 luc with 4 more stars 
First team; i have a good Thali XD
o reallllly
i couldnt have guessed by looking at something such as your name
XD
need help, also have 1 more spot for resonating crystal
Someone help please?
i would take out meriha put in brutus then swap brutus and rowan
any help
I doubt that Talene is doing much there. First thing I would do is experiment with a team that doesn't include her.
ok thank u. any suggestions of team comps
Can anyone give me some tips to build 2 teams for temporal rift? Im at floor 100
Please help
Well right now you are missing the proper investments to make one of the real top meta comps, which is fine of course. Your best course of action is slapping supports on Ainz and/or Daimon. Your current support core of Brutus-Rowan-Ferael looks pretty decent. Your last hero could be someone like Daimon/Silas or even Rosaline or Oden. You should try if your Rowan can survive frontline so you can move one of those squishier heroes to the back.
ok thank u so much for the help
👍
Focus on 3 hero classes so you can get the highest beacon levels possible with as little essence as possible. I think with your heroes the best bet is forming the 2 teams from mage, tank and support heroes. That will mean you can make an Ainz comp as well as a comp with Grez+Daimon+supports.
What have you tried so far?
A lot, I don't really have a strategy. Daimon dies while thoran is resurrecting, and thoran dies almost immediately so there's not much difference whoever I put in the lineup
Do you need to use a Thoran? What does your usual comp look like?
Try this @naive remnant
Get fera to 181 if you can as well his cc becomes much better
Do rowan instead of ainz though
Yeah I got Mage tank and support as highest
Can't, missing L+ GB fodder
What's my best setup for guild hunting Wrizz?
Something like this you can use rowan or mortas as well (put rowan in middle here)
Most important thing is to merc a good saurus
Should I still be focusing my faction scrolls on GB? Who should my next ascended be?
Yea gb and next asc maybe oden ferael or rowan not to sure tho
always gb. gb are op af. Specifically, oden, silas, fereal, grez. It's also wise to build up a couple of other heroes from other factions, like rowan, eironn, tasi, etc
Yeah wasn’t sure if I should go GB or Rowan
gb, but get rowan when you can. do you have your wishlist set up properly?
I’m focusing on 1 in each faction yeah, but wasn’t sure about who to use the faction scrolls on. Thanks gb it is
Yes I do
Between oden cereal grez, I’m safe to just ascend whoever I get 8 copies of first?
oden is for damage, fereal is for support so save him for later. grez is op af, but needs 9f, so probably oden first. Is your wishlist set up right for furniture
Yeah I think so, someone copy pasted a big guide earlier
should be, hopefully, daimon to 3f, oden to 9f, fereal to 9f, silas to 9f, grez to 9f lucretia to 9f and some filler spots that are debatable
silas and oden first basically
Why Silas if I have rowan
silas is an op healer. rowan's main purpose is a tank/energy regen, not healer
raku gets off at 3f, so does diamon
Does that red diamond under daimon turn into a 3 to make it easy to know when to take them off
Also should i start renting ainz from someone? Idk how it works tbh but i saw it takes 6 months to fully unlock one
see the 0? yeah wait till it goes to 3. As for the ainz, gimme a moment I got a guide
wrote this for another person thank god I saved it. Garrison albedo and ainz first, and +30 albedo when you can. ainz goes to 9f
Thanks. Which tokens should I trade for dim stones?
everything
you have to wait 60 days for collab heroes so you have time to save
I’m thinking guild coins since those are only used for gear otherwise
guild coins can provide you with t1, t2, t3 gear, and are the only source of dimensional gear. you want to use all of them, because even if you use guild coins, you're capped at 66 stones per month
Dimensional gear? I thought mythic was the highest
mythic gear, like all gear, has factions. the normal factions show up through a variety of ways, but gear for dimensional heros are only found in guild shop
Oh I get it, mythic gear but for dimensional facfion
bingo
Can someone help please?
nara grabs arden, brutus frontline
Any help would be awesome.
I'm stuck again, at 11-4 this time and idk what to do
You can't see them but I do have 4 more oden copies if that's worth anything
And I did see in the guide something about Ainz, should I do that?
Read guide closely
Hey, I'm stuck at 12-38 and could really use some help. When I fight, most of the time still 4 of 5 enemies are alive so it's not a close call or something like that. Thank you in advance
could someone help. Been stuck here for a lil bit and cant figure out a line up
yea but he elite
yoo, can anybody help? i have 0 idea how to pass. the cc just kills me
do you have nara
or ferael if isabella is a problem
sometimes CC is problem, sometimes isabella is a big problem. but let me check
why isn’t mirael middle
i started a week ago, don't flame
i wasn’t
don't have ^^
also don’t make so many L and L+
i took daimon from that, so i can progress quicker, was that a mistake?
have you copied the wishlist in the beginner guide?
no
i have a wishlist already done from before, when i started with friends
you should copy the one in the beginner guide
hmm, okay. is there any way to pass the wave btw? would like to get further a bit
Any ideas? I've been trying for so long. If I can beat this stage then I can start refreshing the store, bringing me a step closer to powder heaven
not sure if it can work, but maybe try thoran, daimon, rowan, silas, eliyah/talene?
Pretty sure Daimon, Lyca, Rowan, Farael + Silas could work
U could also swap Lyca for Talene i guess or Maybe for a brutus
Tried that, no such luck
Fo daimon, fera, rowan arden lyca; fera lyca front
any help with this? or should i just afk for now, and try to level up others ?
I died in 6 seconds
Any help on this stage ?
Every AfkHelper guide have a Ezio instead of Khazard, but i can't garison him as i am already doing Ainz and Albedo
also merc Joker so i can't merc one
Theses are the team i'm doing : https://afkhelper.nax.is/images/chapters/38-4_1631430082.webp
5 seconds
I'm honestly thinking its cuz your units are lvl 140
2hat have you been running before?
That's what I'm thinking too, but I need 14k more powder to change that
You could always wait a bit for the dust; arden really n3eds lvl 160 to be very useful
Will that make a difference? I have tons of consumable powder sources, I can get 2k and make arden 160
Ch 13-37 is kicking my butt. I got here with Astar while she was on a three day limited access and I think she carried me too far. Looking for help on how to try to wrap up ch.13
I personally didn't use him a lot, but i've heard 3 enemy root at start is really good
Hey, looking for some tips, which faction to go for, have a lot of faction scrolls and I’m wondering if I should still go for undead or maybe switch to forest. Currently at 10-20 block. Started playing a week ago. Thanks
Undead (Graveborn) Still; for a long while
For now, my main party are those gold ones. Should I change priority of them for another heroes?
priority should be daimon. Put him in wishlist if not already there and use all scrolls on gb
Daimon, grezhul, oden, silas, thoran in whishlist, still havent gontem her
How do I make him root enemies? He dies in 4 seconds and doesn't root anyone
Need 3 pvp teams any suggestions?
Do3s brutus have his shield ability yet? Its been a while since I was that low level
Yes, but only lasts 4 seconds
Oden instead of rowan
Not much you can do though
Oh nice thanks alot 🙂
Is thoran worth working on? As f2p?
Thoran is one of the most used heroes in the entire game when you enter lategame multibattles. Pretty much used in every single multi battle stage.
That answeres me
I finally did it!
These idiots took down 18-40. Talene, Brutus and thoran are all E, Oden is E+
but u have daimon
Does anyone know how I can go past this lvl I’ve been trying for an hour now
Use oden instead of useless healer person and put daimon back row so he can use his ultimate
Put rowan thoran front row
Is this going to win?
Idk is it
😦
Test it out. It's a 0 deficit so you can win.
O
There u go
God bless
Is luc invade not a pvp thing?
It’s not working @royal stag
The one on the left of astar
I switched out talene for oden and it worked tho
Best team for this?
Saurus, Grezh, Twins, Merlin, Mortas
just check leaderboard formations
Ty
Mhm
Merc a fat Grez or Saurus for it
If you merced the Merlin and don't have your own, use Rowan instead. Or Cecilia for more dps
I need help with who to use against this team
I never do arcane labyrinth, I just came back to it and I can’t beat anything
No it’s my own
Do u have one I could merc?
Nope, I don't even have 1 ascended hero yet. Get rid of some people on your friends list who haven't logged in for a while, and then go to add friends by name, type in random names and you'll find really strong people. Try adding a bunch of them (most will have full lists but some won't), and eventually somebody will add you back. They should have mercable heroes
It’s too complicated I don’t even bother ever since I started playing again 2 weeks ago
I just recently started playing again as well and there’s a lot of new characters, I don’t ever know who to use anymore
SAMEEE
I’m just trying to do it to buy characters from the labyrinth store
Ur so smart wtf how
.
Any advice for lineup?
Nara in position 5 to stun Isa might help
holy crap, that was it, thanks again :D
NP
the lineup that carried me from ch 15 to ch 20 was:
Daimon
Brutus
Ferael
Thoran
Nara
Nara/Ferael/Thoran were really good for CC against strong dps like Isa, and Brutus bought enough time for Daimon to get close to his ult. It worked even when I was at 40% of enemy combat power
Sometimes switching out Nara for a support worked when there wasn't a single strong dps, or Brutus/Thoran for Lyca also helped, and Arden was sometimes better than Nara
Help I looked at all the afk helper things as well this was my best choice and I tried it like 20 times and it didn’t work
You're half of the AI's rating, they're almost a whole sixty levels above you, and you don't have a boost because of your party.
As someone who's not even close to a professional at this game and only on the twelfth chapter, that's just what I see.
Lmao you haven't seen a 250+ deficit

Bru why r u talking your wrong 😂😂😂😂😂
Do u see this 😆
Did I not just say I was only on the twelfth chapter and not even a professional?
Then why speak
And I'm happy that I am wrong. I don't know the game as much as the top players do.
Bro this is lineup help if u don’t have a lineup for me don’t talk 💀😂
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
what line up should i use for arena of heroes offensive and defensive
u dont have a decent lineup yet just use your top 5 best heroes
Do I have a better lineup for Wrizz?
Any way I can beat this or?
Have you tried saurus Brutus raine rowan Twins? Or saurus Grezhul raine Rowan Twins. Don’t forget you can cancel the battle if you can tell you’re not doing good damage and it won’t use up an attempt
Not sure how but I keep getting sucked in and it’s messing everything up. Warrek keeps destroying my characters, what can I do?
@faint current ty! Twins really helped and set a new record
Glad to help
@unreal plover bench saurus and tasi try with lyca and eiron pull and freeze both warek and granpda
Can anybody help me with 36-56? 3rd fight
@pale kettle
Saurus brutus
Lorsan lyca eiron(energy art)
@thorny fulcrum maid and belinda
@trail prawn
Brutus estrilda
Daimon fera oden
Sent screen shots @whole aurora
Ok so this is the thoran cheese that everyone on afk helper uses and it doesn’t work at all for me
I can beat it with Lucretia but then I can’t beat fight 5 atm. I might be able to with a merc
Whats the problem... is lorsan die too fast or dat rabit doesnt teleport?
Thoran tele but doesn’t come close to full energy
Dies around 50-60% energy, 70% best rng
Only 4* call
But afk helper says 5* not needed so idk what I’m doin wrong lol
Ah its hard then you need rowan
Yea I tried Rowan and still like 95% no ult, plus he’s tied to my mehira team
Try with raku mehira ...
Alr
Oh dam ....
Then try beating number 5 first ..
Have no idea what was yur bag heroes looks like
Lyca first
With a merc I might be able to beat fight 5 then, and then finally 37-4 afk lol
Fight 4 isn’t a problem I win with all heroes alive
Sending it’ll take a while tho haha
I’ll try to split oden away from fight 2 into fight 5
Yep split them... try no 5 first since grez and alna is gud even with 1 dd
Might be
Thoran brutus
Daimon ,new heroes ,tasi
Ok I’ll try that, ty man
What is the best comp I can do to burst ainz/merlin in arena?
Any help here?
Any help for this I switched oden with the guy on the bottom right but I still get bopped
Try
Put Brutus on the crystal
. Do you have Lyca? If so. Thoran Brutus Lyca, Nara, and Daimon. If not replace Lyca with Tasi. Just use Nara against the most annoying enemy.
Try chucking Rowan on frontline and Owen where Daimon is. Get rid of Mehira
Put Brutus on the crystal and Nara too if you have her. Lyca Brutus, Nara, Mirael, Daimon. Use Nara on whoever is more deadly, Isa or Silv.
Brutus and Lyca only elite will it work?
Yes
Alright ill try it in 24 hrs
Hi 👋 im new, i wanna ask what is the best team i can create with my heroes? Been struggling in campaign
Try something like this @oak spruce
that poor nara
Still lost😂 my estrilda died instantly
Then change her for another push or tank
The other two stages I beat with aniz and lucretia comp
What’s your hero roster look like?
just finishing up like 5 of each faction for ascended
Anyone know what I can try for this team? With usable heroes cause others where used in first three fights
I’m stuck on that exact same battle lmao
I'm stuck on same stage XD
Just can’t beat the fourth but fifth is easy
Arent this stage a charm stage?
yep it is iirc
Yeah most solutions suggest Khazard and Mehira
You can also use raku charm if u hate yourself. That shit's rng is mindblowing, but lower deficits should be easier
I couldn’t get Raku to work at all lmao
My raku is not upgraded enough and does not help
Do you have Khazard or Mehira?
Nope neither of them
Pull vurk with nara and doing something with lorsan rhino link to mr totem ..
Might be
Eiron grezz/fera dodge
Lyca nara tasi or
Fera lorsan
Eiron nara safiya
Or doing thoran cursed then nara pull . And link it using lorsan @still ivy
Eiron energy artifact need to froze as fast as he can
I lived longer but still lost and killed none of them @vagrant ibex
Need help :C
Stop randomly ascending your ascended tier people to legendary.
Also move your Rowan middle of back row so everyone can reach his potions
And then put your Daimon on crystal and start using him
What should I do to make team brtter? I’m using dura’s grace on daimon and duras eye on golus
Pls help
post the rest of your box pls
For a quick answer: Daimon at M would be your best choice
You desperately need a 5th white border hero, so don’t ascend anymore 4-skill heroes past e+ until you have enough copies to make them white border.
The more heroes you ascend to white border, the higher your total level cap will be, so focus on that.
Actually two of the white border heroes you have are dimensionals so you need 3 more white border heroes not just one.
Yeah just focus on cranking out white border heroes to push that level cap, make sure not to use 4-skill heroes as fodder to ascend other heroes, make sure to swap heroes off your wishlist once they are either white border or you have enough copies to do so, you’ll be back on track in no time
Also with the dimentianal stoned u you hire albeito 6 time can u only hire her from the friend u hired it from or from and friends for free?
You can hire her from anyone for free after 6 hires
Anyone know who works best against oden?
Hello. This is my current box. Is it good to have garrisoned unit at this time?
Where do I place him and who I change for him?
Make Daimon M and his si +20 asap
And ur good to go
Hey guys! First time I have had to use thoran in campaign, wasn't pushing much. I just can't get him to ult, his energy is almost full everytime after he revives but never makes it. Any tips or is it just RNG?
Got it. Thanks.
Its rng all the way...
You need 5* energy art tho
And Try reposition
Call is 4* sadly
But most i 've seen have done it with Eye on him anyway
Could always merc a 9f thoran i guess
Reason why ppl use eye on him is cause of 5* call since it transfer energy from the equipper that dies to everyone that are alive, in this case thoran. If u do not have 5* call then you either have to use another comp or use thoran with heavy rng and many energy generating dude
Ooooh, forgot about that... Thanks
Help?
Have you tried Golus instead of Thoran (don’t forget to gear him) and Arden instead of Daimon?
Also swapping ferael and Ainz to make sure Ainz is hitting Niru first
@safe hazel
Show hero's
Have you read the pins
Doesn’t work
Lyca
Brutus
Rowa
Lucius
Wukong
Should I just use merc
Swap ainz and fera
Isabella bottom right
Ya try it
It doesn’t work
I can make oden or skriath M if that helps but if I get 1 daimon copy I can’t get him M
Wait for daimon tbh, dont use merc untill end of week
I am at 26-6 atm, got one Redscroll to redo someome. Help pls :D
It has been a while since I was at that point of the game so I guess you should do a bit of experimenting with taking out different heroes.
ok
are ya’ll ok with really long lengthy answers?
Can someone help me please
ok so basically my problem is that no matter who i put, they die before i can get them to even pop their ult and then only my support heroes are left and they get dominated there-on out.
Vedan isn’t necessarily a problem, but Nemora heals him so fast it’s impossible to kill him.
I need a good tank to last against them and I usually have Rowan in the back and I’ve been experimenting with Astar. Lucius is always there in the front, but that leaves 2 open slots.
I’m also unsure whether or not i should remove Lucius from the lineup, but his shield and heals are lifesavers. I’m planning on upgrading Rowan to legendary, but I’m hesitating because ppl say not to like upgrade Support and upgrade them last. But I’m stuck because of the vast power difference between their team and mine, no matter what I do. I wanna try and kill off Nemora as quickly as possible because her heals are so annoying.
Anytime I get close to killing a frontline she boosts them back to full health. I was thinking about using Athalia, but she isn’t Elite+ or Legendary, and I can’t manage her well as she gets killed the moment she jumps to the back.
TL:DR : I need to kill Nemora quickly and allow Lucius to pop his alt and keep heals, that way whatever main damage I need help picking still stand a chance against the team.
Send your heroes and the full stage
Could someone help me also?
@drifting valley you need to read the pins, you shouldn't be leveling a lot of heroes, only 5 fodder. Read the beginner guide, #2 by bok is short and easy to understand.
@drifting valley ?
Maybe Lyca, Brutus, Nara, Rowan, Daimon
ok i’m gonna start following the doc but here are my current heroes i usually use @safe hazel
i’m gonna reset a lot of their levels but
always buy arthur from lab store and merlin from challenger store
your box looks all over the place but reset ALL of your heroes and start working on 5 L+ fodder
Post ur box in #classic-questions
stuck on kings tower any suggestions?
any idea guys?
I have a friends ainz with 1 mill power so I wonna use him
what do u think I need to do here?
Stuck at 18-40 any help with lineup?
That's who I used yesterday, in that formation
How much resetting did you do @naive remnant
Could someone please help?
I took Brutus out of RC because he was only elite
Brutus at elite is brutus at 90% power
Even tho Thoran has like 30k+ hp than him at e+?
Brutus has immunity
Problem is athalia
Any ideas how to pass that stage.. Last stage of this cursed chapter
Hello it seem that a can’t archive to pass that any help ?
What should I use for temporal rift?
Even afkhelper can’t help me with this stage please someone 🙏 save mehhh
Swap eironn and rowan
They do even worse
How
Idk
Your enemies are what, 58 levels ahead of you? You should have little issues completing that
There’s ppl level 240-270 easily completing it :/
How many attempts have you done so far
In total?
Actually 15-20
You want to know why 240 can beat that stage? They do many more tries
I’ll do more tries then brb
If you're giving up after 15-20 tries then it's not gonna be fun later on
You just need good rng
@vital kernel I’ve tried 60 times
more
Damn, this lvl is so much, thoran fight and 2 flora 😥
I tried many version of Afk helper with lower investment on heroes but still can't pass
I’m hitting a little bit of a wall here at 9-20 (I know, not nearly as far as others. I just started a few days ago). Any suggestions here?
Stick Brutus in instead of lucius, and maybe replace the e shem
Also read the beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
Will do! I’ve seen some videos on beginner tips, followed them. I’ll give this one a read.
how do i move on? I don’t have enough exp to level my heros
Try to reset khazard and level up another hero.
I tried Brutus but still getting murdered. I can’t seem to kill anything

