#lineup-help
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The team im using are all lvl 100 unless daimon 120
I read the beginners guide but still no clue
upgrade your fodders to max ascension
you could try using astar as your healer
I used her when he was free, but now im not sure if i should go for her or just wait for pullong a tank and use a mage behind
you have daimon you dont need a mage carry anyway
Okay, some places i see daimon as a carry others says that he is a tank, im a bit confused. But thanks so much
dont get fooled tho, tanks like daimon, thoran, grez are carries with the right invesment
brutus and arthur are really just the viable tanks atm
Okay, thanks!!!
Last question😅, as it is said in the beginners guide, wukong above lvl 100 is not good, what carry do you recommend to use instead of him?
Any good team from those heroes? Im stuck at 10-4
daimon if unlucky mirael
you shouldn't started garrison too early
I mean in the frontline, i have 3 healers daimon and who? Still thinking mirael goes there?
put lyca for the haste buff
Yeah i know, was a mistake
Okii thx again
any suggestions for arena def comp? artifact suggestions are welcome too
I'm getting destroyed by people half my power level in Arena. Any suggestions for a good pvp lineup with what I have?
I use Talene, Lucretia in front row and Daimon, Rowan, Tasi in back. Getting wrecked by people.
Probably arden/mirael/ferael backline and golus/lyca frontline. Cc to stall till mirael gets set up, lyca haste to speed that up.
Anyone can help me do a team so i will focus on 5 heroes from now on
Focus on grezz and other graveborn like daimon fera thoran silas oden
After dat try to get lucre
@ashen geode if you mean cus ppl used ainz then try to put lorsan somethin like
Lyca lorsan
Lucre eiron nara
I wud suggest to ger grez ascended 309 and also alna since ypu dont built bedo ainz
@fiery wing fera furniture9
thanks good thing fera is at 8f lilith wont give my 9th lol
After dat try to get 9f dumbledore he can replace rowan for sure
I'm losing to other Lucre comps unfortunately, and just better put together teams that use Grez and Nara etc. rather than Ainz.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll work on Eiron and Nara
Oh darn I don't actually have Nara or Lorsan. What would you suggest for a good pvp lineup from the heroes I have? Assuming I am not losing to Ainz currently.
I need to have 3 teams for chapter 34, could I get some suggestions?
Beginner guide? Or are you just trying things on an alt
Alt
Hi im new who should i put in my lineup?
Beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
Look at the picture guide you don’t have to bother reading long documents
Any help this is the closest I’ve come
My silvina attacks my ainz no matter what is it because he’s the only int hero?
what hero can replace Alna and Oden? can only use one merc
i think replace Alna with Arthur and merc a 336 80 oden to compensate?
@ashen geode no need to up eiron and nara ... you just need they skill at first and let them die (to trigger luc passive) lorsan is just for linking damage i suggest on nara cus you dont have eagle ..
Try
lyca fera
Lucre eiron safiya
Also if you want to make lucre beast try to get 9 furniture
why not 309 alna?
You're amazing, thank you so much!
cuz my oden is doo doo
May i have healing problems if i build this?
Domt make any legend if you lack of copies ... but ye oden and raku is a must
how to win
@rocky tusk grez daimon can heal them self and healer isnt priority on this game
@pale kettle
this is round 2
@whole cliff try to bbench ainz and use lorsan also if you have nara tey to pull dar weird girls forgot the name 
@pale kettle
Can anyone help me make 3 teams out of this
bench ainz?
Yes ... 1 dd is enough i guess .. cus ainz need 309 and bedo tobe shine
Try to 220 daimon
cap at 200
Why would he take ainz off?
@teal sluice
1 Bedo ainz dumbdore arthur rowan/prince
2 talene grezz daimon tasi prince/rowan
3 lucre eiron lyca safiya
Try swap mishka and Brutus @whole cliff and keep retrying
Will try it out, thanks!
r4 destroys
As i said ainz isnt gud witthout 309 and bedo i wud do daimon m+ till atleast ch24
Who is your merc btw? I think oden should work there. He just need to displace enemy. Alna merc seems better
but my oden 201 T2
U can try using an alna merc first? And see if u can win. The problem here is grezhul most likely cant survive
Round 2 lucre 5 pull cus 4 and 5 is easy

clear the rest faster
Lol why, im stalling 
He has ainz linked to Shem?
You’re saying that Shem is better then ainz
It worked!
Got passed 34-28 thank you
Yes but why would he get rid of ainz if he’s linked to Shem
Daimon will be capped at 200 whilst ainz can get 240
@vagrant ibex never could find a team where Daimon worked for me, its awesome
Any suggestions been stuck for ages
Ferael
Thoran
daimon
Lyca/Brutus
rowan or nara if isabella is main issue
Play around with thoran/brutus/lyca/rowan locations based on how the fights go
O ma ghost there you go i mean he dont need ainz nor shem ...and at your pict dats why i dont suggest ppl garrison any heroes early on
Basically have to
@teal sluice you just need thoran cheese and raku to reach 36
Any ideas?
Thanks I’ll try it now
You need 1 cc
Try
Daimon brutus
Cc/lorsan nara maid
I think I need ainz for it to work @stable ember
Lorsan and nara are both at e, is that fine?
ainz isn't going to be worth it until much much later. Build around daimon carry with 1/2 tanks and 2/3 CC/supports
I can’t
I need 2 more daimon copies
Fine try it couple times if ita not work try other cc .. cant see all of your heroes
My closest to A rn is pippa at 7 copies
ascension level doesn't make that big of a difference, especially this early
Or replace lorsan for lyca
It does because I’m level capped
like this?
My problem is I have to use ainz as my carry but I don’t know what cc or support will enable him except albedo rn
Just work on the team that will enable daimon while you get heroes to raise cap for them. Ainz isn't going to help without investment
How?
I have to get 5 M heroes but isn’t that going to hurt my progress later on
I don’t have the fodder rn for it as well
@stable ember do I get morrow and oden to M then? Don’t have the fodder yet but I’m close
Yep or
Daimon brutus
Maid nara lyca (if silvina annoy maid try to switch maid and daimon position)
@pale kettle
Need some help on this lv
If im not wrong in 31-60 its can cheese🤔,or if you can't or don't know about the comp just using afkhelper on Google
Im working on Thoran and I need 3 more rakus for ascended, Just cleared chapter 34 thanks to the daimon formation
how on earth am i supposed to beat this
https://imgur.com/a/ROE1tIC stuck at 10-17. help
Post the stage you're at, can't help you if you don't show the enemy units
It's more about what you're up against instead of what you have
10-17, bloodsnarl x 2 isabella arkadios ankhira
@simple cypress Can't you just take a screenshot of the stage like this
We need to know exactly what you're up against, positioning and all
@simple cypress Replay the battle a few times and tell us what happens, turn off 2x if you need to. First step to troubleshooting a stage you're stuck on is to figure out the main threat wiping your team. I'm willing to bet it's Isabelle's Ult, but check just to make sure
lucius is a backline tank
oden
-shem
rowan
-thoran
eironn
Use Saurus not Merlin
And mayba rosa on daimon
Still need help with this stage. Tasi's damage and that massive amount of healing seem to be the problem
cleared it. just changed some positions of heroes and done
@whole cliff @pale kettle thanks
Works better but it still doesn't really solve the healing problem unfortunately
Got it, had to switch Ferael's and Oden's positions, thanks @humble zodiac
@quartz bison No idea, RNG. I never wishlisted her, I swear lol. Game is rigged smh
@silk ibex hahahahaha, they pretty much know that she's uneeded so they kept giving her
What best i can to do with this champions? Any propo with those
Out of ideas. Any tips?
avoid ascending heroes with 3 skills
I followed begginer guide
Send your other units as well
Its only for food
wrong one probably, you've wasted food
Obviously you didn't, because you Ascended the wrong heroes
He did fine?
Lol what i did wrong i guess 160lv? Thats all
how to win?
You only need one carry, spend the rest of the slots on support Heroes. More damage =/= better chances of winning cause you'll be missing utility
Early game multiple Carries can work
Could put Rowan instead of daimon or mirael
Not too sure tbh. Gwyneth is... alright? I would have saved the fodder for Rowan since he has M Daimon. I don't get the L+ Morrow either. Looks like he's spreading his LB fodder too thin from what I'm seeing from his box
not talking about leveling up, talking about ascending
@silk ibex gwyn and morrow are his best light bearers atm, doesn’t even look like he has a copy of Rowan
Really unsure about Ascending Gwyn so early tho :( If anything imo he shouldn't have touched Gwyneth at all and gotten Morrow to M if he really wanted to. Just from how thinly spread the fodder is he might be stuck at M Daimon and no other Ascended GBs for longer than necessary, that's just my very amateur opinion tho
Either that or he's extremely unlucky to have so many non WL units at this point in the game, in which case I feel bad
He should have enough time to get the fodder he needs by the time he gets enough copies of better heroes
try this, chain Albedo with Mirael, try this Albedo Daimon Shem Silas Tasi
alright
Speaking from my own experience he'll need all the fodder he can get lmao
say how did it go
Stuck at all my wishlisted GBs at 7-8 copies with not nearly enough fodder to Ascend them lol
I’m chapter 35 so I understand the fodder thing. But his options looked really limited. I don’t think he made any huge mistakes @silk ibex
Let's just hope the Tavern favors him, that box looks very unlucky when you take into account he most likely setup his WL properly
mistakes are not really counted before chapter 30 maybe a bit less
you can catch up too easily
daimon dies early
even if you switch places with Albedo?
I think the solution is either to stall for Daimon with a good FL or keep him alive with Silas whichever works better
Isn’t albedo only good with ainz?
If you really want to you can try the Eironn pull comp.
Daimon
Lyca
Eironn
Thoran
Tasi(?)
nah, you can use her without Ainz too, but she hits different with Ainz
yeah
turned out Oden literally overpowered them
Alna retried 500+ times, didn't work
Oden worked 1st try
Managed to carry myself until this point, daimon does well but doesnt recover enough health to finish anyone off
Nvm i got it
wheeeeze
This is the stage I’m stuck on rn as well
Idk how to beat it
i just kept mixing them around but i made sure that nara kept pulling isabella
so basically i just kept her where she was
and let rng handle it
Brutus, Arthur, Daimon, Rowan, Nara
@safe hazel @astral wagon A trick is to put Thoran in front of Nara (I think he gets his revival fear at Lv141?) and not make him too tough to kill. Nara pulls Isabelle and kicks her down, then as soon as she gets up, Thoran will revive and fear her again. If you wanna go for overkill you can try Oden to Ult her as well lol
you're doing pretty well though, weren't you chap 20 earlier?
@quartz bison I managed to get through that troublesome Tasi stage and that allowed me to push the rest of Ch20 easily
Yeah, stuck at a Tower stage with double Estrilda Frontline. Estrila's my least favorite enemy in the game
swich daimon and lyca, replace oden with thoran
Any ideas for a team comp that would be good for me? Positioning would be helpful too. My current team is 1. Wukong 2. Seirus 3. Satrana 4. Astar 5. Skriath.
Use that daimon and make sure he’s on your wishlist
Help
send hero box aswell
mehira orthros out of rc
make your mirael 160, you dont have a decent carry atm
?
I can’t
you copied the wl in pins right?
My hogan is level 10 I can’t level him up
Wl?
wishlist
Yeah I did
100*
maybe reset hogan then put the levels onto a E+ hero
Which one?
oden atm
But oden isn’t a tank/frontline right
no
you need him for the crystal not to be put in the lineup
you could put thoran in your resonating crystal i think he’s a good tank that early
Oh okay
Yeah I think I used him when I just started along with oden
take either mehira or orthor s out for him
Damn they have so much more power lol
Looking to put a tank in the resonating crystal, tryna decide between thoran, grehzul, Titus, and izold
Suggestions?
@sleek eagle Thoran according the beginners guide. Also, Izold is not a tank. Also, #classic-questions would be better here.
It says izolds primary role is a tank
Sure, when you have a fully-invested one, and he manages to ramp up. Izold is infamous for being 1shot or team-killer, no in-between.
try mercing 309 merlin or check lower clears
never assume the hero based on their role
Rosaline is the biggest problem here, didn't die with 3 fallen down
It's less of the devs lying and more of the players just good at adapting to evolving playstyles
Ahhh
Front line bedo or prince
Albedo
K
I mean I could go with Rowan since tasi is linked with Merlin
naaahhh never link Tasi bro
No tasi is linked with prince but I can u link real quick and re link but if I re link who do I link prince with
you only need 1 star hero to link with for eg
But who
Is your tasi 9/9?
Should she be on the furn wishlist
I only asked because you were contemplating on using her in pvp. 9/9 is viable. But pvp tasi is really not a priority for regular players.
You could probably win with 3 heroes at that deficit 
How?
Alna Arthur albedo fera ainz or smth
Ok
you replace merlin with rowan, pop with fera, then switch fera and ainz, then remove fereal's weap and put him eye
K
and switch arthur and bedo
K
@slow sleet If you're having any further issues, try to make sure that someone else dies before Albedo so that she has time to activate her immunity. A good way is to put a weak Ezizh in your party, he will give you the Hypogean bonus and some energy, but most importantly he will go fast which helps Albedo
Ok even tho I’m already past that
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Ferael
Brilliant! Worked like a charm!
Make your formation
Skraith
Lucretia
Eironn
Lyca
Safiya
That might actually be a hard team to 5pull tho
Yea they mostly get one shot
Could try
Safiya
Lyca
Eironn
Skraith
Lucretia
Might take a few tries
I have 2 available slots in my crystal. Which units would be most beneficial for me to put in there?
Also, what is the best lineup I can make for guild hunt and cooking challenge?
daimon
merc a fat saurus
rowan
grez
twins
when doing the cooking event let the people do the hunting just plant
Would it be the same lineup for cave of treasures? Last time I did it time ran out
whats that
The special battle in the labyrinth
I don't have any friends with an inn, so I guess I can't rent anything?
Any team comp for me? Something that doesn’t include silvina, she died too quickly now
goto #mercenary or find a decent guild
how do i beat this
What's a second formation for the dismal lab? These are the heroes I already used (plus eironn and lucretia are dead)
first comp: Ainz comp
second comp: wilder comp (need miskha fat)
labyrinth hard help
I used a gwyn comp as second
No need for ezio try twins/raku
why are usinf a merc lucius?
cause its helping my team stay alive. shield with no timer labyrinth mod
just merc a ainz
will do.
Can i get some help? I stuck in campaign and don't know what to do. Maybe my team is bad
Look at beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions
Thanks that team worked out great for me
Lineup help please. Mireal kills my team with her super and I need to counter or delay it somehow
nara her
Tried but she dies too quickly and then my frontline goes too
Help? Isa + Silvi is killing me
Brutus/thoran front
Daimon rowan nara back
try
daimon
rowan
lyca
brutus
nara
Rowan cant tank shit without t1/2 gear
I'd even try grez instead of thoran if you have him
17 tries and this worked, thanks!
What team can I make with these heroes?
Daimon, Thoran, Lyca, Brutus, Rosa
Rosa/Lyca/Nemora/Eironn/Arden are all good supports for this team
Silvini for some fights too, to stun a mage
Can anyone help me beat this level? Can't kill Mira in time
I also have 1 available spot in my crystal
How’s my lineup. Started two days ago?
lmaoo my bad i didn’t realize
Join a Guild, you can use your Guildmates' Mercs
I usually rent my guild leader's Saurus and I'm close to getting 100m damage on Guild Hunt, he shreds the Labyrinth Treasure thing in like 10 seconds, but I also use my Guild Hunt team to buff him to make his job easier
I usually rent my guild leader's Saurus and I'm close to getting 100m damage on Guild Hunt, he shreds the Labyrinth Treasure thing in like 10 seconds, but I also use my Guild Hunt team to buff him to make his job easier (Saurus, Rosaline, Raine, Warek/Mortas, Twins)
I'm at Ch22, can't help you lol, sorry
I got a good first team but the second one sucks
Uh first team ainz second luc?
Lucr without si30 may not work
Daimon team
get rowan and luc to 30 rowan first
First team albedo lyca front
Ainz behind bedo, rowan, leonardo? Idk
Second brutus grez front
Daimon, tasi rosa(?) Following daimon
Would try that
Id go for first team daimon grez lyca thoran and maybe kren or smthn
And 2nd team ainz albedo leo rowan brutus
Or what steve said
Its hard to use a non +30 rowan lmao, just there to stall longer
Guess you are on arthur, makes ainz safer too
Stumbled across this while trying to research and wanted to thank you for it! With my ADHD, reading all of my heroes' skills and actually retaining the knowledge until the end of the hero let alone through the entire team options is a nightmare, so being able to tie that knowledge to a tips sheet like this is fantastic help!
no worries, glad it could help
Lyca is too much dps, and Estrilda + Golus cc Daimon after the rest die
My best attempts have come from
Daimon
Thoran
Nara
Brutus
Ferael
does anyone know how to beat this?
do you have athalia
Nope
aw
you could try an assassin to fight lyca or mirael or you could use eiiron to bring them closer
I beat this one by using Nara, Thoran, Ferael, Lyca, Daimon
i dont have nara 
Athalia could sub for Nara
k
Apparently Oden was the solution
my oden never takes energy
Suggestions
NVM i beat it
how? dont u have the chest with the 10 scrolls in it?
remove fereal's weapon then try again
What does removing his weapon do?
go to events and check the bootcamp the one with the free brutus skin
it fastens the animation making his fears proc quicker
i dont see bootcamp
no brutus skin event like that? how long have you been playing?
i think i started a year ago but then stopped for a long time
ohhh i seee yeaa... i highly recommend to get atleast one copy of nara
if you're new you should have see this
damn, that's good to know, thanks!
Desira investment and uses?
FFS. Can anyone help me get past this damn Vedan on 10-40? Suggestions on who to merc?
Lol is it meta to play farael without weapon? And why does it effect animations
not all the time but with enemies that relies of spells its better to have fereal no weapon
with weapon equipped fereal normal attacks and fears, without weapon fereal half animates the normal attack then fears right away
Damn
That’s only for 9f tho right ?
mine is 8F btw
Oh ok mine makes a different shot somehow xd
but some cases fereal cant tank so sometimes he equipped with weapon and shroud for better survivability
👌🏻
Looking for help on chapter 13-24. The lineup you see in the picture got me from 13-4 all the way to here. Now I am getting dumpstered on. I have one spot open on my resonating crystal. What should I do?
try replacing miskha with brutus
@fiery wing lol worked like a charm ty
Any tips to improve this lineup?
Golus thoran silvinna shemira daimon should work for now
Who frontline? Thorus daimon?
Aight, is it best to put in the middle back?
Can anyone help me to do a team with all that for the campaign
I'm using brutus and thoran as Tank actually
stage dependent
For this stage
Flora was just to test
I use Gwyneth at the place of flora
put gwyn in the middle
best i can think of is
ainz
brutus
gwyn
lyca
lucius?
can’t really think of anything good with your box
My ainz is not good at all
But gonna try
It didn't work
I died in the first 10 seconds
I quit playing for a long time so I'm really behind my server. I need a lot of help from who to ascend to lineups etc. Any relatively high level player willing to work one on one with me?
Show all your heroes please
Look up
Too hard to tell
It’s maybe not worth because of the stat loss, but tasi instead of oden?
show progression
help me 
What are good wriz and Soren teams? Just got 3f raine
you can try saurus (1), rosaline (2), twins (3), mortas (4), raine (5)
show box

Could try erionn to suck up the damage dealer
Alt isn't getting anywhere on this one
try the same team but put in nara or any assassin to attack lyca
Any suggestions on how to beat this? I also have 1 available slot in my crystal
If you're use nara you might as well have her pull the mirael to stall her abilities, and i would put thoran on crystal. Try-
Daimon
Hogan/thoran
Rowan
Lyca
Ferael/oden
can shift daimon to front line and use the other ferael/oden instead of lyca
Thanks!
Is there anything I can do here? Non of my lineups even come close it seems. Ch 13-25
Any tips for 13-39?
try putting rowan instead of either oden or fera and put daimon in front of thoran
Also get ur raku to mythic when u can. he’s a great carry
Thanks!
raine (eye)
saurus (cb)
warek (cb)
rosa (blade)
twins (call)
Hardstuck…
where brutus?
Under but he’s only e+ i think
Is this good for a yedterday starter
I just can't pass this level, do you have any ideas?
Brutus is a good tank even at E due to his immunity. Should definitely put him on your crystal
You should only have 5 heroes leveled up at once. Also, your carry, Daimon, should be leveled higher than the rest of your heroes, including Oden. If you reset all but 5 heroes, you should be able to get daimon to level 61
Much love mate thanks for tje reply
If you have the cores then I recommend you take Lucretia to A1 @pale kettle
Well, u should still consider it
Kaz + Silvi are just too much dps, any ideas?
Could try putting Rowan in Lyca's place to get Silv's aggro and switch brutus/thoran so the two highest dps are on brutus initially
I’ll give it a shot. Without Rowan, Silv targets Brutus, which is why I hadn’t tried Rowan yet
Ah, fair, that basically is the same, I just woke up lmao
It would probably keep them away from daimon for a second longer if they're on rowan/brutus at the top though
Yeah, Rowan is slightly worse. Silv targets him instead of Brutus, so Rowan + Brutus go down quicker than Lyca + Brutus
Fair, lycas haste is also important.
Having issues on 9-20. Grezhul seems to kill everyone fast and nemora out heals me. Current lineup and levels are just last ditch efforts to figure something that works based on other winning formations.
Any ideas? I feel like I've tried everything haha
Do you have the hero choice chest yet with nara in it? She may help on this stage. Also I'm kind of questioning why you would have a legendary Brutus, and nemora leveled up instead of arden who is ascended higher. Also you'll want Silas and Oden on the resonating crystal. They are great that early even at elite
Forgot to post my hero box. Damnit. xD
I previously tried with Arden in my lineup and leveled to max, but I had no luck with the configurations I tried. This SS was just my last effort. I think I tried about 30 combo's (tried taking inspiration from the winning formations in game). I'll check for the hero chest but I think I picked someone in a guide I just read that should be my first set of ascended heroes. I've been neglecting the crystal and keeping those heroes geared - I'll try putting Silas and Oden on and keeping some gear on them as well. Thanks
Help pleaseeeee
Does your tasi die to quick to be usable?
You're gonna want to reset Rowan and Nemora and give those levels to Arden/Hogan because their level cap is higher. Then put Oden and Silas into your RC, they're very useful
Any clears for 38-20-3 without joker?
I guess this is how supposed to start fresh account 
Should I skip L+ silvina and go straight for L+ Daimon?
Yup
Ty <3
Np
Can someone help me
Any ideas?
I need some help too I’m stuck at 15-37
Any clears without joker for r3?
Could try to Nara position 2 just to distract Eironn, but idk how that'd work. The clears I'm seeing rely on Daimon in position 3 to spin up, and just distractions in the other 4.
I'll give it a try with nara
Help
Yeah, I don't get that close
I've gotten better results with Grezh having the good gear
Try Grez, Brutus, Daimon, Rowan, Fera maybe?
share a pic of the enemies too pls
Doesn't matter which gear I take to T1 and T2 right (knowing that boots and weapon are priority)? I'm thinking of upgrading a few
I'll try that as well
T1 boots is the priority over weapon, T2 weapon is the priority over boots.
Target your carry heroes first, so Daimon and Grez and such
It's not working...
I made it through now, is there any recommend lineups atm??
Recommended lineups are heavily dependent on what you have and what you're up against. If you're against an Isabella, you need a Nara/Athalia to cc the Isabella. Broadly speaking though, you want Brutus/Thoran or Hogan/Golus on the frontline, your carry (preferably Daimon early game), and two out of Rowan/Rosaline/Lyca/Tasi/Silas/Nara/Ferael/Eironn/Arden/OdenLorsan/Nemora/Pippa
I got it with Semi thoran cheese
This one’s kicking my butt. Thinking I might need a merc next week for it. I have some RC spots as well if there’s someone else to try.
Try replacing nara with Rowan, and putting Rowan in the fronlines
And if PoP isn't doing much then replace him with lyca and see if she takes tasi's banishment
Thanks! I’ll give it a try.
I’ve been using Daimon in frontline as a tank I’ll show you my current lineups
Daimon works frontline or backline until 160, but after 160 or so he only works backline
Feel like I need more dmg
If you get Rowan to M and work on his SI, move Daimon to the back and replace Talene with a tank, you'll be better off imo
Also get Daimon to M+ and focus leveling him since he's your carry. No need to focus on Gwyn as much, she's not as powerful
Okay but from the dmg chart both Gwyn and Daimon is my main dmg dealer followed by talene
That makes sense, but that's also because you've invested in her SI. Daimon's SI is even better, especially at +20, and the increase to his damage and tanking is much greater than what Gwyn's gives her. Gwyn, long-term, is not competetive enough to be used outsideo f LB tower except in niche situations. Daimon can carry you through campaign up till multi-fights without issue if you get him to +20 and 3f
And also how’s mehira
Any suggestions?
I’m trying to get to chapter 17 so that I can get the stone for their SI
Daimon
Hogan/Golus/Grez
Rowan/Ferael/Lyca
Thoran
Nara
But stuck at chapter 16-ish now
Nara + Thoran's revival fear should cc the healer till Daimon kills it, and iirc that was my biggest problem with those levels
Should I switch out some of my crystal units? If so, who and with what?
I'm using a lower-leveled, lower ascended team than yours and I'm in chapter 17. Throwing emblems at Gwyn doesn't work as well as investing in Daimon. With your combat strenght (100k higher than mine) you could be in chapter 19 or 20 by now
You'd have to show your whole box, I have no idea what you don't have in RC
Yea it’s too late or can you reset SI levels?
You've got a good set of heroes in your crystal right now imo
You can't reset SI, but it's okay. Silver emblems come pretty quickly, probably on the order of 100 a week or so. You can recover and improve with some patience and better team arrangements
Okay what are the main ways to get silver emblems?? Aside from opening up chests which is what I got most from
Oh boy. Don't use chests for silver emblems. You'll get them over time from summoning in the tavern and from the shop for gold once you hit ch 19
Ok, which artifact should I give Daimon? All the others die in a few seconds
Dura's Call is usually best on your carry until you get class-specific artifacts
Make sure you've got grace on your tanks and eye on your supports
Should I feed my Lucius for a M Rowan?
I've been rocking Call on daimon since always 😂
No, it's better to wait for fodder
You pretty much never want to feed a 4-skill hero as fodder
Brutus or thoran?
go for it you wouldn't be using lucius anyway
call
Brutus or thoran
for what?
depends on the situation, both are good - just try one for 5-10 tries and then switch if it doesn't work
For tanks
i use them both 
Ooooo
Yea some stages need both...
i mean before grez thats my stable comp for like 10 chapters
Is mehira a good dmg dealer??
she's not great until chapter 30+
She's a good charmer
Mehira is usually a cc "support". Eventually, if you're using charmizard, shes a carry at e+.
She requires a specific team that needs heavy investment
Even E right?
Oof
Elite/elite+, doesn't matter.
this my stable comp for chapter 20-29 before having grez and rowan
so yea i used both thoran and brutus
Khazard is also mainly cc than dmg right??
Heavy investment? Kinda.
If you're using Raku Charm, you need Rowan 30, Raku 30, and windbinder 3* on mehira.
If you're using charmizard, you need Rowan 30, Khazard 30, and windbinder 3* on mehira.
Yes khaz is usually for cc but he is mostly there to die since his +30 effect remains after death.
thoran has taint to weakening mages
Tyty
Imma try to get Raku Charm running, just missing 3* and fodders for raku
whats ur raku at?
E+ 👀
Tho I got the rss for Si30
So as I said, only missing fodder
I feel like shemira used to be very popular and now not so much
And you are pretty much right.
brutus is the only version 1.0 character still being the used widely until today 
His immunity is very useful
Lyca exists too. She's still used a lot.
oh yea lyca
Need some help here
Brutus, Lucius, Daimon, Gwyn, and Tasi? Who is troubling you?
I’ll try tasi
@fiery wing mind showing your hero box?
Lost
Cuz uhm... I wanna compare
You didn't use the same order. Brutus in pos 1, lucius in pos 2. Daimon in pos 3. Tasi in pos 5. Who does Tasi banish?
Hmmmm
Are you hoarding rss from RC?
Tried still lost
kinda, i just dont want to spend on levels rn
leveling is expensive
You can replace Gwyn with Nemora to charm Mirael. Who is mainly killing you? And who does Tasi banish?
With 900 red chests
Timeout w/ no deaths
my progress is thoran 30 --> push tower with thoran cheese --> profit --> levels
ur waiting for bedo, raku, ainz 
She banishes raine and they did pretty much evenly on dmg dealt on me
u can add me on my fl so u can see my clears we have kinda the same box
Then do Brutus, Lyca, Daimon, Nara, and Tasi.
Sorry, not an expert in early game.
Any help
Don’t have Nara
I'm not really sure about Albedo/Ainz... But yes about raku
Did you take 10 GB scrolls over Nara?
Sure, I'll add u ingame
just search my name
What?
There’s a chest you get which had 10 GB scrolls and some heroes that’s why
If you haven’t got it yet get nara
Think I used it
Send the stage again pls
Swap luc with astar and gwyn with tasi
Show your full heroes.
If that doesn’t work swap astar and Brutus @fringe thorn
Who’s astar
Wilder girl you're trialing
Well, you can just wait til you can merc someone else. Try replacing Lucius with lyca for haste.
Mirael instant kills my champ with her ulti
Then swap tasi for gwyneth
Send the combat report of the fight
Also upgrade daimons SI to 20
Don’t waste any emblems on gwyneth anymore
Okay I know I need to level Daimon’s SI TO 20 I do not have any more Emblems to do so
You're close. But replace Lucius for Lyca

And then, switch Gwyn and Lyca's positions
Man you’re a god
I made it
Thanks people!!! Appreciate the help!!!
grats
Do you have 2 accounts or something?
20*
Oh okay i'm getting it now x)
Who should I put next into my RC? About to open a slot in a bit. Also open to removing someone too.
I would say probably morrow. He's a great cc hero
Oden and morrow
Lyca, Brutus, Nara, Rowan, Daimon maybe.
If you need to, replace Nara with Nemora to charm.
Help please
Aside from dunking on me for my Shemira, who should I be putting on my wishlist next? Just hit chapter 31
Izold
why are you star hunting
Wdym?
keeping heroes on wishlist after getting them ascended
Is that not optimal?
no
Then is there something I should change about my wish list? Other than adding the 5th slot obviously
Can someone help me find what to use my choice chest on?
desira hodgkin izold oden keep grez for stars imo also don’t waste your engraving mats on random people
Pick the celestial or hypo
@analog sigil
@left fox I use joker instead of merlin cause I'm wacky
I feel like everyone below the first 4 rows are basically useless besides a few exceptions due to lack of investment
Any good synergies I'm missing?
Current janky teams that have some how barely got me to where I am
any help w this?
Try putting rowan front row and making rosalina track him
And buy the first level of pink haired girls sig item
How many furniture for Alna and Grezhul ?
Cards ?
What do you mean, like a screen shot?
Furniture cards
Heard, I was just planning on abusing alnas invincibility for some cheese
With Alna GB and Ainz Team u can easily beat both Flora stages
Pippa +20 does better for thoran. Alna is an extremely luxury unit just for cheese
this?
Yeah, and maybe try morrow instead of fawkes
And if you can I'd slap lucius on your tower so you can have an early game tank
damn this is early game?
Idk where you're at since I only see your LB sorry lol
im on ch22
Also give like all of them hp chalice
could argue that its mid ig
That's how I beat a lot of stuff I was dying too quick on
Chapter 22 is still early game
Mid game starts with multi fights
where is that exactly?
31-4
Dang two teams was that late?
so youre saying a ch30 player is still in “early game”?
id have to argue to an extent that that is subjective
Yeah
Try my team comp I wanna see if it works
okayz
Oh yeah if rowan gets targeted by the assassin chick might not be the best front liner
he does
I hated her
Make sure you have the best gear you own on them if you don't mind moving stuff around
im focussing my fac towers so
all my gear is on these 5
when belinda can cheese an ult of she does 1m dmg
just not enough sustainability
nobody can back that up and she’s extremely squishy at that point
Why is Rosaline following Rowan that makes no sense
My b
I was trying to give him a front row that survived for more than one second
Also rosaline+rowan is a pretty good meme when it works
xd
Try pink hair front row with rosalina tracking her, take out rowan since I'm sure he dies instantly and replace with Cecelia or whatever and she might have time to bait the assassin away from your back line
And put Belinda behind pink hair so she has a tank
I bet shemira also deletes someone
Maybe fawkes, pink hair, Cecelia, rosaline and Belinda
Yeah, if not that then rosaline first fawkes/morrow 4th
Fr?
yeah
Les goooooooooo
Best way is misty valley, trials of God and those twisted Valley ones or whatever
Twisted bounty
finished misty, cant do trials and idk what thst is
Anyone have any suggestions for this stage, been stuck on it for a hot minute and don't know how to get out of it
Switch Brutus and shemeria then put rowan front row instead of her
shemiras viable?
And maybe switch a mage with izold because he's cool
Like this?
Yes try that
rip didn't work
i was swerved off shem carry due to this server calling her absolutely ass
Early game and certain bosses she's a beast
yea i figured out she was ass in later stages after i got her to 5 star lol and she's my highest power hero lol
She's like best early game carry
i see, might use her again if i can find a formation for her
Try replacing Belinda with izold
my izold is like way underpowered compared to my belinda, he's 1091k and belinda is 1925k
Also give a lot of people hp chalice
Try with izold and give literally everyone except maybe Brutus hp chalice
Hp chalice was honestly my mvp early game
i have barricade on him but it hasn't been leveled
That's fine it's good on him
You could also just mercenary someone's ainz or something
Behind lucius
ok
you think i should stick with ainz carry or divert to shem?
im getting bedo tomorrow
how do you even get him?
what comp should i use?
better question how do I get dimensional heroes, period
just by mercenaring?
garrisoning
I'm in chapter 36 and ainz comp wins even with only 3-4 people against the strongest of my multi battles
you pay so much guild tokens/ lab tokens ect and you can get a dim hero for a month, after 6 payments they become yours full time
LOL
Unbelievably strong
arthur thoe
Arthur is pretty goated too ngl
arthurs a beast, got him on an alt and made a gwyn comp, ch16 on day 2
You can reset the store and spam buy his pieces but it's like 1k diamonds though
what comp do you recommend i build once i get bedo?
like what do i use with my already have/ what to work towards
ainz comp
no shit bro
albedo is shit without ainz 
read
when do I start doing multi-battles?
Not true
ch31
Ainz is so strong I sometimes pull albedo and put her on a team with prince and joker
from your box maybe build towards raku charm
She makes them really strong
wait what does ainz even do lol
bomb
Nukes the map
u watched overlord?
no but i want to
do
Ch 31 - 2 teams
Ch 33 - 3 teams
Ch 35 - 4 teams
Ch 36 - 5 teams
From ch 36, all teams will remain 5 teams.
ainz comp makes ToG a piece of cake
ToG?
Yeah lol
Well once you have bedo, her an ainz pretty much don't need help once she has her sig item, king arthur is also amazing on the team cause he keeps ainz alive and buffs his haste
And somehow I almost forgot rowan
oohh right tower of god my b
Rowans mana potion is amazing on ainz
easy class artifacts too
But eventually, you will stop using his energy potion on Ainz. 
easy clear PoT too
Yeah I only use rowan with ainz in arena now
do i have to pay the 100 dim stones each month for 6 consecutive months do i just own ainz at that point?
each month
Yeah
you make it back though, and after 6 u own, cant pay all at once so if you change your mind you can go back
It's basically the more expensive way to get them if you missed their event
how much are dims during their events?
100% worth though, I suggest using guild coins and hero coins
This belongs in #classic-questions not lineup.
You need a good support
But try Brutus mishka daimon rosalina tracked on either daimon or mishka (Maybe ainz if those don't work) then last spot ainz
Hopefully assassin girl goes after Brutus
Seems doable, but 50+ attempts, shuffled around, diff artifacts and still nothing.
@magic hedge there is no celestial or hypo
worked
First time hahaa
Niiiiice
I'm looking now flynn
First off switch barricade to Brutus since it basically doesn't make a difference on him when he's immune and skreg needs the hp
Do you have mercs available? Try mercing a Kren.
That's true
Yeah can try that. The skreg is wicked squishy here
I'd say try totem guy mid and give everyone hp chalice except Brutus with barricade
Try it rq
And make sure they're wearing your best gear
Was a big rip, gear t1, t3 on satrana
I’m just gonna merc 😭
Seems dumb at this deficit
What happens in the battle and how quick do you die
Dat vurk 😳
All I got left is just mixing up the back line, maybe sin, skriath then totem
Or maybe just switch skraith and sin since it looks like the totem mostly heals top row and you need to keep her alive
Also I have a kren you can merc, he's like 20si 3/9 furniture
If you don't see a good one
how to ace?
crap thats the last one i meant
You've helped me regain my confidence, thank you case
how so?
youre just helping, no need to lose confidence for failing, twould be no fun if everyone you met had zero difficulty, no?
True, true
your welcome for bringing the confidence back 😄

1 more rosa copy til A
Switch daimon and oden, switch Brutus and thoran
If dat don't work let's look at relics
Can anyone help me with a team? I can't clear anything rn
You're only a few steps away from a massive boost of power
Those first two top row and first girl second row are fodder units
Not good to actually use, you sacrifice them to make your real units stronger
Yeah my current teams usong first guy 2nd girl 2nd row wukong 3rd person 2nd row and last person 3rd row
I'm gonna need to look at it for a second but I bet I can get you a good "boost"
First start by resetting those heroes I told yoy about
Yeah but they my highest ascension?
Albeit i can't really get it higher cuz of low magic dust but still
Trust me homie, they're their own tier of fodder
They literally can't go past the ascension you have them at
Yeah so why don't i keep them leveled until i get higher ascends?
I could just use the crystal right?
Because you sac them to get good units ascended
That's all they exist for really
Before you reset them though, does it give your copies back or just the level up materials, I forget
Ok we can still work with that, just not as easy
Oh I'm still at ch10 if that helps
God dammit you're so close to greatness
I'd disagree but show me the way
You're like a few units off to get like three or four mythic heroes
Which is red tier
Yeah i have that returnee bonus thing so maybe next reset I'll get those
For maulers skriath is better but you need a support so I kinda want to build the totem guy
Whichever you want could be mythic right now
Wait actually you need copies of both reeeeee
Alright well let's start simple ig
Well optimize your levels after this but you need to fix your hero wish list
i have the ines from the #classic-questions pins rn
excluding the one that i already have i switch that one with the 6th unit they say to get
Oh that's probably good then
Until you get some more units that'll boost you to mythic I say try gorbo the turtle guy, wukong eirron (support) Belinda
Support being either Silas or totem guy
And reset the fodder heros then equally level the not ass characters
wait but belinda and wukong go to 120 and silas goes to like 100 while the ass fodder units go to like 160 i think
why dont i level ass units then cart them once i ascend the non ass units?
At the very least you need eirron the highest though, he's a beast
yeah i can do that in a bit
And there's no need to level anymore fodder, you're so close to getting a lot of mythic heroes
Two copies of Belinda and she's mythic
Two copies of either totem or skriath, bam mythic, (btw you could get either to legendary rn)
who is totem?
Last guy second row
numisu?
He's a support, not the best but useful
i have a few other supports no? i heard silas lyca and arden are good supports
maybe lucius but i havent seen him used anywhere
Silas very good, rowan is good but you have no copies, arden is early game since he's fodder
Lucuis pretty good early too
You could get lyca legendary now but I'd save your fodder to get gorvo mythic
He's not bad but he's not a famous tank no
ah
My first ever ascended hero was anoki lol
Gotta use what you get for a while tbh
Although I was in slightly better shape cause I was just using anoki to power a dimensional hero
i also have this dura’s grace thing who should i put it on?
Everyone it let's you but focus it on front lines
oh right about that, who should i put frontline and who backline?
I’m thinking gorvo and wu front then rest back but not sure about who should be front in wukongs spot
aight
Also once you unlock star gazing, as tempting as it is, do not star gaze for wukong
totem guy for silas and fodder guy for belinda?
yeah i know i should go for twins right?
My first was lucretia cause I wanted another carry and she's a one man team
But twins are good
Try the exact one I said
oh
That one is pretty good though surprised it lost
axe guy killed everything again but prob because my totem and fodder guy dont have equipment since i dont have any
oh hey it worked
Yeah you want eirron to target priority targets, especially squishy back liners
He pulls three closet enemies
ah so whoever does damage i kill with eirron
Yeah, and you can use Belinda instead of fodder knight but I wanted to use his levels
ah the levels dont really matter cuz crystal
Don't waste diamonds on stuff in the store btw
even the dust?
Dust is sorta worthy but later when you need like 40k dust it ain't worth it
so rn when i need only like 6k at most it worth?
I'd personally not buy it cause diamonds are premium but I wouldn't say don't
aight
aight
ainz comp or full gb comp in arena?
Just wanna make sure