lineup-help

[waxen sandal]

So I read the guides and refreshed my memories on ascension and other things to watch out for. I’m think that I should probably go mostly wilders for now. Any suggestions for moving forward and who should I focus?

[primal mist]

If you've got the Wukong share event, do that and get him, and then use him as your carry unless you get Daimon

[pale kettle]

i know i'm new but i need help on who to put on my team and who to upgrade

[thorny fulcrum]

Stuck at 11-35. What am I doing wrong? I am so close to ch 12!

[misty solar]

Rowan probably is dying too fast, perhaps you could replace her with a tank so Mirael could pull off 2x ults.

[eager salmon]

Last stage sb can help?

[safe hazel]

Daimon number 1 prio always use faction scrolls on GB as well

[rare moat]

Can anyone help me how to build? This is my heroes i just started yesterday so im kinda noob

I’m not really having trouble with my current build but i just wanna know what’s the most effective build that i can use

[supple mantle]

Where can I find meta arena lineups?

[vagrant ibex]

Keep pulling for the graveborn and daimon is the best carry on early to mid game

[supple mantle]

Yea build around daimon

[royal stag]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[vagrant ibex]

@gentle kayak try
Brutus rowan
Lyca fera daimon or

Brutus fera
Daimon rowan oden ( fera need dodge at first )

@eager salmon
1 fera arthur
Nara rowan Shemira

2 saurus lyca
eiron raku lorsan

3 Lucius

@thorny fulcrum no 2 silvina
No5 arden no3 could be ferael

[rare moat]

Is the position of the heroes fine? Or do i have to change anything?

[vagrant ibex]

Ye cool you put tank as a tank

Sometimes it depends on enemy .. try to find tierlist or just read the skills and have a try your heroes

[fiery wing]

the positions really change depending on the enemies so regardless if its fine or not you'll change it

[magic oriole]

wukong is better than satrana

[safe hazel]

Look at the picture guide pinned in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

at some point in campaign he cant keep up with others hereos. He will just get one-shotted, and it will be time for you to find a new frontliner

[pale kettle]

help?

[waxen sandal]

Need some help

[pale kettle]

I’ve been stuck on this and I’ve retried 16 times already, I’m frustrated to the point where I want to kill myself.

[fiery wing]

try upgrading ur mirael first

[cunning warren]

any ideas?

[pale kettle]

do I reset daimon?

[safe hazel]

You need to level 5 fodder (look at beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions )

[fiery wing]

noo daimon is good but yea try to upgrade fodders first then put ur daimon onto crystal

[magic oriole]

switch eironn to ainz

or put eironn where brutus is and lyca in the back middle. also i don't see how izold helps

[safe hazel]

@pale kettle did you just progress quickly how come you only have one L fodder

[stable ember]

(GB tower) Any suggestions? Otherwise probably just going to merc it after reset

[pale kettle]

IVE LOOKED AT IT SEVERAL TIMES, JUST GET TO THE POINT INSTEAD OF SAYING, “oh just look at the beginners guide” that doesn’t help at all

[pale kettle]

Mk thanks, however. Bok told me to wait till they are at elite+ so that my heros will be past their level cap

[fiery wing]

yea because E+ will make ur heroes 120

[cunning warren]

yea I’m just using izold while I work on daimon

[pale kettle]

Yeah, I’m waiting for arden and hogan copies

[magic oriole]

reset daimon, level up mirael, and then level up an e+ fodder hero as much as possible with your remaining resources. put daimon and cecilia in the resonant crystal

[magic oriole]

and wukong if possible

[pale kettle]

wukong doesn’t survive

[upbeat fossil]

Oden

Daimon
Arden
Golus Grace
Rosa (follow Daimon)

best gear on Daimon > Golus, Oden > Arden
try stripping Rosa of all gear to let Silvina target her

[pale kettle]

Golus grace?

[upbeat fossil]

dura artifacts

[pale kettle]

oh not on daimon?

[upbeat fossil]

no

unless Daimon is dying

just run it first

[pale kettle]

Daimon died fast

[upbeat fossil]

Rosa (follow Daimon)

Golus Grace
Arden
Daimon
Oden

[pale kettle]

still no gear on Rosa?

[upbeat fossil]

does Silvina target her or not?

[pale kettle]

she does

[upbeat fossil]

then best gear on Rosa > Oden > Arden

[pale kettle]

but when rosa runs to daimon, silvina targets arden

[magic oriole]

try lucius instead of golus maybe?

[upbeat fossil]

another factor to consider is whether Oden is teleporting enemies in front of Daimon, if he does then i'd swap the tanks' positions

[magic oriole]

yep. I also think brutus might work instead of golus because of his roar. if oden can tp an enemy in front of brutus before he roars then you will deal more damage

[pale kettle]

He is teleporting enemies to tanks pos, however vendan then targets daimon and then daimon dies

[magic oriole]

try rosa front line

[upbeat fossil]

whats your team power anyway, i cant tell coz u didnt put your team in the ss

[pale kettle]

bok told me never put back to front line

[magic oriole]

umm it's rosa

she is more powerful following a backline hero

[upbeat fossil]

so what happens when u run this setup?

[pale kettle]

Lucius has grace on

Silvina targets Arden, Arden dies, oden tps front to Lucius pos, vendan targets daimon, daimon dies. Not enough time for energy buildup rosa dies before daimon Lucius is last, then dies.

Oden dies after Arden

[upbeat fossil]

generally dont put supports in front and dont put tanks back but this is a generality, rosa can sometimes be put frontline coz she'll run back

[magic oriole]

and generally daimon isn't a tank

[upbeat fossil]

yea i explained in my guide Daimon frontline is for early game only

[magic oriole]

what happens if you put mirael for arden?

[pale kettle]

I used to run with daimon in middle back then brutus and Lucius front, but when I ran with that, front got shredded immediately, then the rest went downhill

[upbeat fossil]

Daimon

Golus
Oden
Lucius Grace
Rosa (follow Daimon)

who does Silvina target here?

[pale kettle]

I’ll run it rn

what gear lineup?

[upbeat fossil]

Daimon > Lucius > Golus i guess

[pale kettle]

Silvina targets oden, then rosa, golus dies, daimon dies, Lucius dies.

[magic oriole]

also try:
Daimon

rosa
mirael
brutus
oden
if that doesn't work. gear on daimon and rosa

[pale kettle]

Who has grace?

[upbeat fossil]

hmm it's 55% power, and u dont have a healer, i'd say this is the limit and u gotta level more
if Griffy can find a solution for u even better

[magic oriole]

whoever dies first

[magic oriole]

yeah it's guess and check since no rowan

[pale kettle]

Rosa died first

when I put gear on daimon and Rosa, the other three died immediately

[magic oriole]

huh. try gear on mirael and rosa follows mirael

[pale kettle]

Grace?

[magic oriole]

rosa ig

[pale kettle]

Mirael died before her ult charged

[magic oriole]

who did silvina target?

[pale kettle]

Oden

[magic oriole]

oh... try grace on oden. where does oden teleport the enemy hero?

and finally try swapping daimon for arden. if that doesn't work then you should just wait to get stronger. It happens pretty quickly earlygame anyway

[pale kettle]

Doesnt tp, silvina stuns him too quick then dies

[magic oriole]

ooh what if you put oden behind rosa and rosa follows him

[pale kettle]

Where would mirael be?

None of it is working

They are getting shredded

[magic oriole]

mirael always center

if they are getting shredded every time then sadly there's very little that can be done at this point. You might as well focus on leveling up mirael as your main carry and getting stronger

[pale kettle]

So reset daimon?

[upbeat fossil]

no he has Daimon he shouldnt use Mirael anymore

[upbeat fossil]

just follow my guide

[pale kettle]

mk

Oh yeah I got silvina to elite+ now I just need hogan copied and Arden copies

[magic oriole]

idk i feel like daimon is worse than her below level 160

[upbeat fossil]

Mirael + Daimon proven wrong, or simply Daimon frontline/lone carry
#lineup-help message
#lineup-help message
#lineup-help message
#lineup-help message
#lineup-help message

[magic oriole]

i mean it's situational. team synergy matters, and below L ascension i would say it's all about which hero is higher ascension and level

of course he should focus on getting daimon ascended since he will be he carry through midgame, but for now I think mirael would carry more

[upbeat fossil]

it's not
Daimon can tank + carry, saving u a supp slot
Mirael being levelled highest means both tanks are weaker, Daimon carry means your other tank has priority for levels which doesnt make it as weak
it works. i've experimented with it.

there's a reason why i give 2 routes for levelling heroes depending on whether u have Daimon or Mirael

[pale kettle]

im going up against a athalia, silvina invade comp and i cant survive because my carry, ainz, gets 4 shot

I have solid tanks, arthur and brutus up front, but neither of them can do the damage to kill the enemy team

[magic oriole]

I think at the end of the day it's negligible difference, and he'll need to level mirael anyway

[magic oriole]

honestly you kinda need to get albedo asap

[upbeat fossil]

it's not negligible. go make an alt and experiment with Wu Kong frontline transitioning to Mirael middle back VS Daimon frontline from the start. people who are lucky enough to get 1 Daimon are 1 whole chapter ahead from the start and the difference only gets bigger the longer one doesn't have Daimon
if u have Daimon u should level Hogan and prioritise Hogan ascensions

[magic oriole]

i mean sure, i'll test it out

[cyan thistle]

What heros should i use

[dim crater]

Hey how can i beat this level please

[supple mantle]

Shemira out gwyn mid rose next to gwyn

[unkempt field]

Floor 376 mauler, kren call and tidus longbow.
With saf kren had +69% ATK buff but he can't kill Orthros

Anyone have a solution ?

[pale kettle]

if youre at the point of killing yourself at 16 retries, this game isnt for you

[cunning warren]

need help

[magic oriole]

yeah i was gonna say something about that but decided not to

[magic oriole]

try eironn, rosa, ainz/saf/kren, lyca, brutus

[stable ember]

I think I go through a few hundred attempts every level at very least at this point...I just have an emulator open and retry constantly while I play other games

[safe hazel]

Suggestions?

[cunning warren]

rosa on who?

[magic oriole]

Your dps

[pale kettle]

who should I use to replace ferael? He isn’t really much use for me rn, especially early game.

[safe hazel]

How many accounts do you have?

[magic oriole]

Wukong

And fera might be better than tasi

[pale kettle]

I make a new one every week or 5 days

[magic oriole]

Def better than gorvo

[magic oriole]

Why......

[pale kettle]

Tasi keeps the boost for faction and makes the enemies sleep though

[safe hazel]

Don’t it will slow down your progress

[safe hazel]

Just stick to one and max out every game mode you can

Otherwise your not gonna make any progress

[pale kettle]

Ehh no thanks

[safe hazel]

Why not?

I have an alt as well but only when I had nothing to do on main

[pale kettle]

I play this game to have fun and trying out different formations and heros and testing rng is fun for me.

Whenever I get stumped I just try something different

as for my other acc that got stuck on chapter 8

[safe hazel]

You can easily get out of chp 8

[pale kettle]

bruh I don’t wanna hear anything else from you, you wouldn’t help me at all earlier when I was frustrated with chapter 8, everytime you say “read pins read pins” that’s not helping me at all, it’s just going to increase my frustration and make me want to quit.

[magic oriole]

Thing is that you can't really use any of your heroes properly before you get si and furniture

[safe hazel]

There was nothing I could do you were level capped and your hero pool was bad (no healer is the main problem)

You can do the forest mania thing for fac scrolls and try get desira/more daimon copies but Ik u might not want to @pale kettle

You basically need desira/rowan where your at as they’re both healers

[candid abyss]

Lookin for some help please? Been stuck for a few days on this one 😅

[lament iron]

ur not gonna get to experience the full power of ur formations if u don’t invest in them

[cunning warren]

need help

[stone coyote]

Need help please

[pale kettle]

Should I switch out Lyca for my E+ Morrow once I get my fodder heroes past lv100?

[safe hazel]

For me (I’m chp 13-22) I use lyca and morrow so I’d recommend getting rid of numisu

This is my current lineup

Lyca is used for the haste and energy buff she gives upon entering the battlefield and sacrifices herself till daimon ults

[pale kettle]

Ok although I am worried that I will not have enough healing going on to keep the rest of the team alive

[safe hazel]

Rowan is good enough himself once he is able to refill potions quickly

[safe hazel]

Rowan is good enough himself once he is able to refill potions quickly

I think at 101 or 121 he gains a very strong buff to his healing but you can keep numisu till then (I’ve never really used him but if he’s doing good for you keep him)

[stable ember]

I would still wait and keep lyca in use, Haste is so strong that she is usable on a ton of levels

[safe hazel]

^

[stable ember]

I still used her around chapter 28ish at E+ before I had 8 copies

[agile atlas]

Hello, I've started the game 3 days ago and I have been hard stuck at chapter 7, I just can't beat most stages unless I keep trying or change line up a few times. Is there any good team comp for that chapter in general? or for early game content?

[stable ember]

Definitely go to #classic-questions and read the beginner guides starting with the visual one. Making heroes L without being able to make them L+ (your lucius) is a big mistake, and you want to work on fodder (3 skill heroes that start as blues) first. Anf being hard stuck is definitely a lot longer than 3 days, more like a month would be lol

The general very early game you'll be using wu-kong to carry you along with 4 fodders and then swapping him out for someone like Mirael after. The guides explain it a lot better than I can

[agile atlas]

is the wishlist updated too in that guide?

[stable ember]

As far as I know it is still accurate. I don't think the last few heroes have changed it any

And at very least it's very close to ideal set up

The pins also contain a lot of info on more recent content, check back on them if new stuff you encounter isn't in the initial guides

[agile atlas]

thanks

so should I rest lucius while I'm at it?

and focus all my materials on Mirael

[stable ember]

Wu-kong probably can still carry you a little while longer, after you're at 100 for him and your other fodder you'll be able to swap towards mirael carry

It only costs 20 gems to reset heroes so don't be afraid to do so if you stray from the guide, it is really just for the very early game and it sets you up for a long time playing once you get to each next step

[agile atlas]

Wu kong can carry ch8 too or?

cuz I'm already facing lvl 100+ opponents

[stable ember]

Its not really a hard set on where he can just basically until he can't which is usually around level 100 for your own heroes. Enemy hero level doesn't matter, you'll always be lower than them

[agile atlas]

gotcha

[stable ember]

There is a ton of info in the guides so it is worth taking the time. The visual one gives you the good basics and the longer ones will explain most of these questions and each next step. When in doubt check guides or ask before you invest heroes or resources until you have a better understanding of the game, you can end up making mistakes with heroes that can affect your resources for months down the lime

[agile atlas]

thanks will do

one last question

I decided to make my Line-up to be Wu Kong, Thoran, Rowan, Lyca, and rare+ Arden

is this good?

[stable ember]

That sounds about right. One tank, one carry, three supports and all good at their jobs

[agile atlas]

ty, will be following guides from now on

[solid stirrup]

kinda stuck on this one, mirael just can never ult :/

[fiery wing]

help lmao nara and brutus

[upper path]

Who should I try to get 4th Wilder?

[fiery wing]

raku 100%

[upper path]

Okay thank

[cinder ore]

I don’t know what to do I’ve been on this for so long and idk what to do anymore

[pale kettle]

I suggest reading pins in #classic-questions shemira was good about 2 years ago but

And can you show the whole box?

[umbral whale]

need help killing mehira, she doesn't get hit by thoran's first retaliation like ever, i usually end up killing the other 4 while she is full hp

[barren zealot]

Thoran cheese doesn’t seem to be working here. I’ve been told my level deficit may not be high enough. 441 vs. 610.
Anything else I can try against team 4?

[barren zealot]

Have you tried using Lorsan to link her with some else? Lorsan&Kelthur is usually more reliable than pippa

[barren zealot]

Still need help here?

[fiery wing]

yeaa

[barren zealot]

Swap Zolrath with Lucretia and mehira with Mortas. Zolrath, Mortas, and Ezhih are just there to die and buff lucretia right now. Hopefully, mehira can get her charm off once. Does mehira have the book artifact equipped?

[fiery wing]

have you tried thoran 5 pull?

[fiery wing]

yea

[umbral whale]

nvm this did it, thankfully had framton for team 3 so rowan was used here

[umbral whale]

yes worked,

[barren zealot]

👍 Didn’t know if you had skirath built to 3F

[umbral whale]

usually mehira isnt that big of a problem but the nara was pulling her too far back even after removing artifact and boots

[barren zealot]

If that doesn’t work, I’d try lucretia across from Brutus then desira

[stable ember]

I would try working with Oden in there, probably dropping lyca if the early haste isn't getting you too far. Could try thoran instead of golus if you do use oden and get the faction bonus

[fresh raven]

Sos help me build 4 strong pvp teams pls 🥺

[coral pier]

Teams 2 and 4 look fine to me. For team 1 replace Talene with Lucretia and Mehira with Tasi. Then completely scrap team 3 and build a stall instead. Team 3 would include: Thoran-Talene-Flora-Nara and then for last slot a supporting filler hero for stalling. Usually you want that to be Theowyn or Kethur but in your case I think Desira could work.

Also move Twins frontline with Lucretia

[astral wagon]

ill probably need help with 20 too who knows hjdrg

[stable ember]

Post hero pool; off the bat nara is pulling a junk target, pull isabella or maybe mirael

[astral wagon]

i ended up succeeding by adding oden in

[stable ember]

Use Oden instead of baden, probably use either Brutus or thoran instead of arthur. Nara pull isabella

[astral wagon]

😩 im a mind reader

But i knew the boss would stump me so to avoid making myself insane

or not cause i did that 2, nvm LOL

[lament iron]

Put nara on the sylvina, use rowan instead of king arthur and put him back mid. lastly have daimon and lyca frontline

so basically

nara
daimon
rowan
lyca
oden

[stable ember]

Any suggestions I'm missing? GB tower; I would merc it but nobody I merc from is on atm lol

[fiery wing]

merc a fat izold

[vagrant ibex]

Try
Fera thoran
Oden nara/silas daimon

[pale kettle]

@stable ember feed Shemira into Oden and make him Mythic SI20. You might not like it but it's probably enough to progress.

[stable ember]

It was my original intent with her, I have 10 Oden copies anyways. Kinda was also figuring on using her with swap scroll down the line for something new tho so 50/50

[pale kettle]

@stable ember You might have some lesser used Lightbearer that you wouldn't mind building again. I.e. Fawkes or Hendricks. Swapping LB to another faction has much more value due to it being a much weaker faction, and gaining fodder quicker.

[stable ember]

That's actually an idea I hadn't thought of. I have I think 9 fawkes atm. Good call, gonna keep that in mind.

I just use him in lb tower because I only have bothered to put 5 lbs on crystal lol

[pale kettle]

@stable ember Yes, you could still use an Elite Fawkes for the most part in LB tower. Not having a strong Belinda will prevent you from moving forward a lot anyway, so sacrifisng LB progress isn't too bad.

[stable ember]

Yeah, I basically have never gotten anything for lb except fawkes and luckily rowan. Mythic Oden did it on that level without a merc so I'm content. Ty again

Daimon still be carrying hard though lol

[pale kettle]

Nice I'm glad I could help

[pale kettle]

according to afk helper this is supposed to work. Is there a trick to it?

[fiery wing]

maybe its suppose to do manual

[pale kettle]

Maybe, but everyone dies rather quick so I think maybe I need to merc someone stronger

[fiery wing]

try on youtube

[winged mica]

Need daimon carry line up i cant pass 9-16

[upbeat fossil]

post the stage we cant tell what it looks like
and what are the last 3 elite heroes?

[winged mica]

I am newbie, i need a few combinations

Like Which support good for now

[safe hazel]

Do daimon frontline and rowan back middle

[upbeat fossil]

generic early game Daimon comps are in my guide pinned in #classic-questions
read my pinned msg there if u havent

[winged mica]

Respen saveas golus

[safe hazel]

Post the stage ur on tho

[winged mica]

I read ıt like 100 times but i am stuck now 😐

[upbeat fossil]

thats why i told u to post the stage

[winged mica]

Omg dude i have just two hands:D

I hate bat guy

Batman 💀😋

[winged mica]

Back mid ok will try

[safe hazel]

Try daimon and mishka frontline daimon back middle and raku and Arden either side@winged mica

[upbeat fossil]

Rosaline

Mishka
Rowan
Daimon Grace
Arden

let me know if Mishka or Daimon instantly dies at the start. and i assume u only have Grace at this point

[winged mica]

Omw 👍🏻👍🏻 i will try

[lean basin]

Anyone got a solution that doesnt use the mercs?

[winged mica]

After 6 times same comb try, misha was not dead And win thanx @upbeat fossil @safe hazel

[upbeat fossil]

[safe hazel]

Gj!

[winged mica]

[royal stag]

Rowan, Brutus, Daimon, Tasi, Nara

[lean basin]

Thanks. Will try

[lean basin]

Thanks. That was narrow

[cyan fossil]

Having trouble with this fight. Tried every position switch around I can without throwing my support units up front, and can’t get through it. Here’s my box if I should switch anyone out.

[upbeat fossil]

Thoran Chalice if u have it, if not then Grace

Lyca Grace
Silas Eye
Daimon Call
Nara Blade

best gear on Daimon > Thoran
spam retries

[cyan fossil]

Lyca up front? Seems weird having her up front when she's a ranged unit. RPGs have drilled that into me

[upbeat fossil]

Lyca only exists for her initial Haste

[cyan fossil]

And no chalice yet. Only just now unlocked the dismal descent, so it'll be a while before I get it

Jesus, finally. Didn't keep track of the amount of retries, but it finally worked

[cyan fossil]

@upbeat fossil I bought the artifact fragment chests from the current event, and got the Call up to 3*. Should I switch out artifacts for my current lineup, or just keep it the same

[upbeat fossil]

switch to Call on heroes with strong ults

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/rj6fb9/pve_artifacts_guide_updated_version_178/

[copper jacinth]

Help….

[upbeat fossil]

idk about the stage solution but dont use Antandra, and use Daimon carry (backline) since u dont have +30 on Albedo

[copper jacinth]

I can make her to +30 now tho… still arguing between putting on Bedo or Rowan first ._.
Anw, I have tried multiple daimon comp too, none worked. Apparently, this Ainz comp was the best trial…

[cunning warren]

need help

[upbeat fossil]

i'd definitely do Albedo +30 before Rowan

[copper jacinth]

Ahh I see.. and then how’s my ainz comp? should I just leave it that way or can I improve by swapping someone?

[upbeat fossil]

Arthur is a must get ASAP, most newer players lack tanks and Arthur tanks really well early on
Ainz needs other support cc heroes too like Ferael, and he also needs his 9/9 ASAP

[copper jacinth]

So swap Brutus with Arthur and Antandra with cc hero? Can L+ Tasi work? Currently I’m focusing to ascend Thoran since I alr have 8 copies, so I won’t have enough fodder for my E+ Ferael for the time being (I have 5 copies)

[upbeat fossil]

i dont think L+ Tasi can tank frontline
btw i realised why smth is weird, have u followed the tavern wishlist guide from the start and faction scrolled only GB? coz u have Izold and Shemira which aren't supposed to happen, and u have a bunch of L+ heroes too.... that's why you're struggling now
normally you'd have Daimon Ferael and maybe Grez or Oden
ascend Ferael before Thoran, you're not gonna need Thoran soon

[copper jacinth]

Yea, I started playing late 2019 when Shemira was everyone’s girl but then I went on and off from this game, then went hiatus for quite long time and came back now…. with Shemira is a bad hero, and Daimon is the best graveborn yada yada yada… As for Antandra, I just happened to obtain a lot of her copies so I had no option but ascend her back in the days. She was my first A after all

Anyway, turns out I only have 4 Ferael copies… which means he can only be ascended to M or maybe M+.. should I do it right away? As for Grez I have 5 copies. Oh and about Thoran, I think I alr have 3 of his furn tho… dunno how to check it anyway.

[upbeat fossil]

eh maybe not, u have 5A which means now you're supposed to take most heroes from E to A at one go instead of stopping halfway. a few exceptions exist like Rowan Pippa and maybe Lyca
dont touch your M and L+ heroes anymore, it's a sunk cost fallacy if u continue to invest in them
Ferael Lv.221 is huge for cc so u need time to get the dust
u should ask #classic-questions though once u have enough fodder and copies to get someone to A, about whether u should do it

and here's a diamond spending guide that helps with dust income

(4th November 2021 - added a note about BB)

Bok's Guide for Beginner Diamond Spending
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855170522793639966/917232880655163402/unknown.png
Example of how to dispatch wanted bounties first before refreshing.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/858043029913731113/896673211339636766/BB.mp4

Note
I have a Lv.8 BB and it feels better to refresh (during normal periods) till 2/1/0 gold bounties remaining, instead of 1/0. No change regarding Double Bounty event recommendation.
I don't know about Lv.6 BBs but you might want to +1 to the tolerance level (during normal periods) like I do with my Lv.8 BB.
I might or might not be missing something about how inSeason calculated the probabilities and recommendations.

[copper jacinth]

Aight thank u sooo much!! It’s a bit overwhelming but I’ll get into it soon. You’re definitely a great help

[sharp adder]

Need help with this stage

Here's my heroes

[whole cliff]

Fereal

Arthur
Ainz
Albedo
Meralin

i think thatd work send me stats if it fails

[winged mica]

Stucked :(( need help

Why am i stucking too early 😦

I need to kill isabella before her ults but i cant

I things i cant pass without new pulls

[dim crater]

Hey

How can i counter a isabella

And a silvina

In the same team

[winged mica]

I need that answer too 😄

[dim crater]

The best to counter isabella at your level is brutus if you have i think

And don't use daimon in frontline it's more a carry than a tank

[winged mica]

No i send my heros dont have brutus

[dim crater]

Oh sad

I have this

And i need to counter this

[winged mica]

Dimentional❤️

[dim crater]

The more problematics are isabella and silvina

And sometime grezhul but it's no big deal

[winged mica]

My problem is low heroes:D

[copper jacinth]

@upbeat fossil yooo thank u!!! Albedo +30 was a massive boost indeed. Can’t believe I just cleared chapter 24 this early. I thought I’d be needing another week or two.

Now that I’m entering ch 25 with less than 2M power rating…. bruh I know this will be way worse than ch 24

[pearl salmon]

What’s my best lineup from this?

My main team is Ainz, Rowan, Thoran, Merlin and Prince typically

[golden trench]

What is the lineup for this stage? They just murdered my whole team at the start of the battle

[slow sleet]

Very close to getting Arthur who do I link him with. Rowan and Saurus are already linked to Ainz and bedo and Tasi and Chicken are linked to Prince and Merlin

[tight juniper]

This goes for #classic-questions but Lucius seems fine.

[slow sleet]

Oh my bad wrong channel

[tight juniper]

Is Belinda your carry? Why is she Frontline? Okay, so a team can be like Lucius, Brutus, Fera, Lyca, and Daimon. If it doesn't work, try Lyca, Brutus, Ferael, carry/daimon, and Nara. Whos killing you?

[gloomy meadow]

help with formation

[golden trench]

everyone on the opposite team, but I think it's the horse lady that kills most of my units, and no, i just messing with the formation on that ss, I got daimon on legend I think, rarely use belinda now, but sure, will test it, thanks

[safe hazel]

don't use silvina

put framton where silvina is

and hogan frontline with grace and daimon with call

if you don't have call yet i'd defo do the PoT for it because you always use artifacts no matter the stage

[thorny fulcrum]

Is there anything I can even do here? I am stuck on stage 11 - 40. I feel like I've tried everything. What you see in this lineup is something different, but it's had the closest success so far. Heroes like Rosa die before she can even get her ult off. Any help is appreciated, I would love to hit chapter 12 without having to wait to upgrade Hogan which is holding me back on my crystal

When I break the 4 faction bonus I die too fast it seems, and if I use any other tank other than Golus they die really fast as well. I thought 4 Graveborn+Mirael could work but Thoran dies really fast and the mobs walk past him to kill everyone else while he's resurecting

[safe hazel]

What artifacts do you have?

[proven river]

woul put in a oden and thoran

[rugged hedge]

How can i improve my formation

[thorny fulcrum]

@safe hazel eye, drape, call and grace

[safe hazel]

Put call on daimon grace on rowan and use mishka as a tank instead of mirael then put drape on mishka

?

Who @ me then deleted the msg

[agile roost]

Help

[thorny fulcrum]

@safe hazel I don't have Daimon, one of the reasons breaking onto ch12 has been so hard

[safe hazel]

Have you been scrolling gb every time you get fac scrolls?

If you don’t have daimon you have to wait till you get hogan to lvl 121

You probably fed mirael too much of the fodder and now you can’t get hogan

[waxen sandal]

Any tips?

[safe hazel]

Look at the picture beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions

Also you probably just need levels because you don’t have good enough heroes in your crystal to beat that

[summer cedar]

swap brutus/grez and daimon/pop. Brutus is much better equipped to handle magical dps and you really don't want PoP running into them

[fiery wing]

you know its really hard when shem is ur carry cause she sucks at deficits and can be easily countered by silvinna

try using nara across isabella and hope for the best

[fiery wing]

brutus

lyca
rowan
thoran
daimon

[bold meteor]

Help please

[pale kettle]

Some help pls

[whole cliff]

how do i beat this? hardstuck for 2 week

[pale kettle]

for campaign, who should I have for my 4th slot here? I still have to level another fodder for crystal but I’ll do that after.

[kind nest]

Go into #classic-questions Read all the pinned guides.

[warm yew]

You should be leveling your fodders and putting 4 skill heroes onto your rc

[pale kettle]

I know, I still need to open slots though, I only have 2 at the moment, once I have enough orbs I’ll level more fodders

[worthy bane]

You sir, are a fool. You lack a fundamental understanding from top to bottom. The only actual relevant heroes you're using are the GBs. Wukong, Fera, Tasi, and probably potentially other's would be great however we also can't see because you didn't even send a full image of your roster for us to know all the options. Eironn early game is only used for repositioning and his damage potential would be adequate at best assuming you can even make him survive at any level deficit. Stop begging for help, use your eyes and brain to read some guides and instead of just reading them, take the time to understand them and ask relevant questions if you don't.

[midnight bronze]

[worldly apex]

[pale kettle]

god I should’ve just asked in Bok’s server instead

[worldly apex]

Bok doesnt answer questions in his server

[primal jolt]

bok also would most likely tell you to sit down and listen to arty lul

[primal mist]

^

[pale kettle]

You and Bok are the ones who have actually given me the most helpful answers

[kind nest]

1. Arty is one of the top community Contributer of AFKARENA
2. Bok doesn't answer questions in hiss server.
3. Being a jerk on this server, will take you nowhere

[worthy bane]

Bok doesn't have the time to help people who can't help themselves. We're trying to teach you how to fish for life and you're looking for a single nibble of salmon. I've given you multiple answers to your question, and you've been guided to areas which can literally tutor you through the first three weeks of the game

[worldly apex]

maybe this can help

[pale kettle]

thanks

[pale kettle]

for my carry however, should I use my kren or mirael since I have them both at elite+

[worldly apex]

you're still sub 100 it seems so just use wukong

[pale kettle]

Mk thanks

[pale kettle]

Would tasi be more useful then eironn at my stage? Current lineup is Wukong, Thoran, Oden, (tasi or eironn), Desira. Or I could use rosaline but I don’t know who I’d use for the extra ult.

[worldly apex]

possibly, depends on the stage, try different things and see what works and what doesnt

[pale kettle]

alright I’m just wondering cause I’m low on diamonds and only have one spot left on crystal

[willow fable]

Wtf

Another nice guide, redorb op 📈📈📈

[kind nest]

That is why he's in Ex Nihilum

[drowsy gazelle]

[rotund haven]

Help

[kind nest]

+20 Daimon when you can

[rotund haven]

Gotcha

[solid stirrup]

tried so many different combinations but basically mirael can ult once and then all my units die

[willow fable]

[viral tiger]

how should i arrange them?

[pale kettle]

Stuck on this, any help or recommendations?

remove mages, remove gear from thoran so silv(? idk the name but the assassin girl) targets thoran, use eironn to pull all 5, use lyca for haste, then let wukong do the work, use ferael to delay niru ulting.
final should be
lyca

wukong
eironn
thoran
ferael

wukong will insta ult with this

if not, switch lyca with wukong's pos

[primal mist]

oh shit, this is actually amazing, thanks!

[fiery wing]

nice surely im gonna use this

[pale kettle]

help plz

[pale kettle]

I am not pro in this game
but when I face athalia I always put brutus in the place she will appear so he can stop her till my daimon kill her or thoran cheese

[magic oriole]

Try replacing thoran... Also see if fera can tank athalia shot

[pale kettle]

I need some help, I tried many times but it's not working.

[supple mantle]

Any ideas ? I can’t quite get it (I don’t have raine)

[drowsy gazelle]

Try replacing tidus with any ranged hero. Raine is just a rando chara slotted in since she die anyway

[misty solar]

Please help for Grotesque Mage at Twisted Realm. I attached a video and also list of my heroes.

[supple mantle]

it just wont work xd

izold is not dying he has like 1 hp all the time

[upbeat fossil]

your video isnt moving again
what's the #1 using?

[drowsy gazelle]

Its moving for me

[fiery wing]

you dont use merced saurus there instead use a merced fat grez

[fiery wing]

@misty solar try mine

auto off then ult mortas 5x then auto on when you think they are almost dying lol

[misty solar]

Wait guys I will reupload the video so you guys will also see how fast they die. XD

[fiery wing]

cecillia is the key

and silas is the key for higher floors

[fiery wing]

thats the reason why i choose mortas over twins because ur units are not tanky enough to survive vs oden

i'll choose twins when my units are tanky enough

[misty solar]

Oh man, I don't have enough slot for RC. So far here's what I've got in the RC. + 1 free slot for Merc

I guess there's not much I can do? >.<

[fiery wing]

hmmm i dont think chicken isnt useful at ur stage yet

[misty solar]

With the video I dealt 4.2m dmg. And on the leaderboards I only need 7.4m damage to get Legend.

[fiery wing]

try replacing chicken with cecillia and put cecillia on ur team and replace twins with mortas

[upbeat fossil]

kinda hard to recommend heroes coz Idre meta keeps changing and every small thing matters
generally i see Cecilia Eye, Grez Eye, then backline Warek Eye Twins Call (Twins ult at 0:59, 0:49, 0:38, 0:28, 0:18)
i might use Silas backline as well since it appears u need healing? your Tasi is E ...i dont think she'll heal enough

[fiery wing]

and merc a fat grez

[pale kettle]

Maybe you can get by with having no Saurus and just a good Grez

[misty solar]

So I'll drop E+ Grez and A-Merc Saurus for A-Merc Grez right?

[royal stag]

Can u ping me when u beat that f***ing stage ?

[drowsy gazelle]

U have cecillia?

[drowsy gazelle]

Lol, wassup man. Which round is screwing u?

[misty solar]

I do have Cecillia, unfortunately no slot in the RC.

[royal stag]

37-12 round 3 @drowsy gazelle

[misty solar]

Should I unlock w/ 800 diamonds?

[fiery wing]

hmmm no, just replace chicken in crystal

and put chicken back when new crystal unlocks

[misty solar]

Cooldown is 24 hours. 😦 I should've done this yesterday. Btw, who's chicken?

[fiery wing]

i mean you can spend 100 diamonds to rush unlock, skriath because he looks like chicken

[misty solar]

Oh lol yea. XD

[drowsy gazelle]

Ah yes, the flora cheese. Aint nothing u can do other than rng it

[viral tiger]

any ideas

[pale kettle]

@royal stag @supple mantle

[upbeat fossil]

yea should take out the bossing heroes when you're done with the boss
right now only Skriath should've been taken out once u were done with Ice Shemira
Warek and Twins are used in all TRs so they stay on

yea try to do TRs ASAP to prevent having to spend diamonds on rushing cooldowns

[misty solar]

Got it, I'll be mindful of "seasonal" heroes next time and remove them immediately

[royal stag]

Wait a second im pretty sure i can Alna GB these f***s

[drowsy gazelle]

I mean, if you are <160-180 deficits, im sure it would work

I pushed at 200 deficits, flora touches me and i die instantly

[royal stag]

164 deficits

[drowsy gazelle]

I think even ainz works at that deficits

[royal stag]

Thank you

[vagrant ibex]

Ive lost the ss of 3712 but this was 3716 might be hewp

[misty solar]

Will it be fine if I feed Silvina to Daimon then use the EXP to level Cecilia to 120? Levels in TR are scaled up right? And after that I can just reset Cecilia and level another fodder to 140+. That way I spend only 20 diamond instead of 100.

[vagrant ibex]

Ye its time to feed everything for daimon

[upbeat fossil]

uh...no. im afraid u might get stuck with 4 copies of Daimon forever due to bad RNG
how many diamonds does it cost to skip the cooldown?

[fiery wing]

why not vedan? lol and its not worth to level up a 6th hero

[misty solar]

Right now I have 6 copies of Daimon, and waiting to get 1 ascended for HCP.

[vagrant ibex]

No provlen as long as he try hard to get daimon

[upbeat fossil]

wait then who's gonna be your replacement 5th fodder after this TR is over

[misty solar]

I have Vedan and Hogan

[fiery wing]

hmmm i dont think thats a smart move to do

[upbeat fossil]

ok, but maybe the Lv.120 Cecilia wont cut it...
how many diamonds does it cost to rush cd

[fiery wing]

100

[misty solar]

Isn't it scaled up in TR? Because I notice all my heroes are level 156.

I am just unsure what are the requirements to be scaled up?

[fiery wing]

it scales based on your current rc level the higher you level up your heroes the higher the floor will be

[upbeat fossil]

what happens when u try to put in your Lv.1 Cecilia in TR? does she become Lv.156?

[misty solar]

I can't she's not in the selection.

[drowsy gazelle]

She wont show up

[fiery wing]

you cant put someone who isnt in the crystal

[faint current]

The heroes you manually leveled cannot be used in TR

[fiery wing]

i wish it was tho so i can remove cecillia on the crystal

[misty solar]

If the floor is based on RC level and I use 120 Cecilia, that will also place me in lower floor right?

[drowsy gazelle]

You can, as long as it is top5 iirc

[faint current]

You cannot.

[fiery wing]

you cant

[misty solar]

I can use Daimon I manually leveled him up

[drowsy gazelle]

Huh? But he used daimon

[faint current]

It is explicitly stated in the rules, which I read after submitting a ticket and was told to read them

[fiery wing]

because floors calculated by top 5 heroes on your crystal

[faint current]

I had Rowan manually leveled and could not use him and thought it was a bug

[misty solar]

But I can, here's Daimon.

[fiery wing]

because he is the highest

[supple mantle]

saw it with skreg alot but i dont have him a

[misty solar]

If I feed Silvina to Daimon and level Cecilia to 120. She will also be on top5 highest right? XD

[faint current]

That’s strange. Rules say you cannot, and I could not back when I hadn’t broke RC yet

Top 5 isn’t RC

It’s “pentagram”

Maybe shadow rule change

[upbeat fossil]

uh i dont know if levelling Cecilia to 120 will drop the rest of your heroes to 120
i would...just rush the RC cooldown since it's only 80 diamonds less spent and u dont have to deal with any unforeseen problems

[drowsy gazelle]

Oh wait, u meant pentagram. I said top 5 in terms of power which im wrong

But pentagram meaning if he manual lvlup cecillia to be within pentagram, then she can be used

Its just if cecillia is the 6th leveled then it cant

[misty solar]

My top5 hero in pentagram also shows up in selection.

[fiery wing]

but pre240 the rc its based from your too 5 heroes currently leveled up manually

[drowsy gazelle]

Isnt that how it works? The 5 hero you manually leveled are counted as RC

[faint current]

Your RC is based off pentagram which isn’t included

[drowsy gazelle]

Only the 6th and so on doesnt

[faint current]

They might have changed how it works in TR due to many support tickets

[misty solar]

Yea only the 6th onwards doesn't it seems because as shown on the screenshot the top5 works

[fiery wing]

if you want to put cecilia on tr without putting her in the rc make her L+ and level her as far as you can

but yea 100 diamonds wouldnt hurt that much

atleast its not 800 diamonds to unlock a new one

[misty solar]

Am I never gonna need to unlock slots in RC in the future for 800 diamonds?

[fiery wing]

its not advisable tbh

[misty solar]

Alrighty. Thank you so much guys.

[fiery wing]

especially at ur stage which be heavily spend ur diamonds on summons

[pale kettle]

Skreg is there for the barricade protection. You could still try using a lower ascended Skreg i.e. Mythic or even another tank altogether

[pale kettle]

You should buy them at some point in the future. It's recommended to pick up the 800 diamond slots as they are cheap, the 1200 ones are not too bad either.

[solid stirrup]

not sure what to do for this stage, isabella just destroys me

[misty solar]

Which one should I request for Merc?

[drowsy gazelle]

Eye one

[misty solar]

Got it. Thank you!

[supple mantle]

who needs to be protected there?

[pale kettle]

Thoran but I found another comp that might work for you

[supple mantle]

if i play it like this pippa ports so fast that izold isnt bind anymore

also my tidus is only si10 does that make a big diff?

[pale kettle]

You need to tweak Pippa's haste. probably remove her boots

[supple mantle]

ahhh thats why they used legendary boots

[misty solar]

Thank you so much!! 🙂

[supple mantle]

ok i saw a vid of someone completing, why is his pippa porting in middle of the field and mine just throws izold to the end of the world? xd @pale kettle

[misty solar]

And a little more optimization on skill rotations. Hehe.

[pale kettle]

this video shows the exact haste that Pippa and Thoran have. Try to replicate it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zUFQ-9F6R4&t=2m50s she also says you can use Orthros if you want. (with barricade)

[fiery wing]

grats

[misty solar]

Thank you!!

[supple mantle]

its looking aight but like still izold stays alife with 1 hp most of the time

[supple mantle]

I made it thanks a lot for ur time

[pale kettle]

np congratz

[pale kettle]

help plz

[loud pebble]

Anyone can help?

[proven river]

Farael
Thoran
Rowan
Daimon
Oden

[pale kettle]

Don’t judge on alt k thx

[fiery wing]

rosaline (follows mira)

grez
mirael
brutus
rowan

[pale kettle]

=geardrop

[wet nexus]

No matter what I do I can’t beat this last level on the AL. Can anyone offer advice lol

[pale kettle]

thanks alot the only one helped and it worked after 10 tries

[supple mantle]

show box

[supple mantle]

maybe switch rowan and daimon then put eironn mid and leonardo for gwyn?

[wet nexus]

hmm. No matter what I do all the enemies are just immune/take no dmg ):

[proven river]

Maybe show all your heros first

[proven river]

Farael
-------Daimon
Rowan
-------Brutus
DaVinci/Tessi

[proven river]

Maybe try this

[wet nexus]

thx

Brutus + Daimon front row?

[proven river]

Yea

[wet nexus]

(yes I know way too many L heros btw, mistakes were made)

[proven river]

xD

[wet nexus]

lmao still nothing. What char am I facing that is healing/blocking/making their entire team immune? like 10 seconds pass and they take no damage

[pale kettle]

Eluard probably and or Peggy

[safe hazel]

Any help?

Everything I’m trying doesn’t work

[loud pebble]

Switch grezhul and big sword then daimon and morrow

[safe hazel]

I got a variation of that to work afterwards thx for the help

[loud pebble]

no problem ig

[fresh raven]

SOS counter these teams pls 🥺

[coral pier]

Stall team against 1st. You don’t have any great counters against 2 so just mirror it and wish for the best. The last 2 are tricky because your counter options are not great I would go for Ainz comp and Lucretia godcomp, but the order is tricky. You could go Ainz first and hope for a sweep, or almost a sweep and have the god comp finish up. You could also go Luc comp first and hope it wins or damages the comp enough to make it easy for Ainz to kill last 2.

[pale kettle]

lineup help to beat this stage please

[pale kettle]

This is a popular comp on afk helper for this stage but I can't get it to work

[stable ember]

Try adding lyca probably in place of marrow or frampton, and can move daimon behind grez. Lyca is fine on the other Frontline because you just want her haste anyways.

[pale kettle]

Yeah I did that but didn’t put lyca in and it worked

[royal stag]

Maybe Merlin 309 instead Rowan

[pearl salmon]

Good afternoon fellas. I need a better frontline character. I use ainz, rowan, Merlin, Thoran and prince. Prince goes down like a punk, any ideas on a better comp? Should I grind after Daimon maybe?

[royal stag]

Arthur is ur best bet but until then maybe Rowan

And stop Hunting stars

[pearl salmon]

What do you mean stop hunting stars?

Most of that is for the dimensional carry.

I’m with you tho.

I can only get Arthur thru the Labyrinth store?

[royal stag]

U need Albedo asap and then Arthur

[royal stag]

Correct

[pearl salmon]

Why Albedo?

[royal stag]

She makes Ainz alot better

[pearl salmon]

How do?

So?

How so lol.

[royal stag]

Her 303 for Ainz is huge

[pearl salmon]

Sorry what’s 303?

But your images make all the point I need lol

[royal stag]

Si 30 and 3 furniture

[pearl salmon]

Ah, 3 red furnitures. Got it

[royal stag]

And post ur Tavern and Oak Inn wishlist in #classic-questions

Im pretty sure it needs an makeover

[pearl salmon]

Thanks very much for your help.

[dull flame]

I should add, her +30 is more important than the 3f

[pearl salmon]

Copy that, I’ll work on that first 😊

[dull flame]

is the flora for powercap?

[grim lance]

Yeah

[dull flame]

athalia should target the safyia

[grim lance]

Skriath is a problem tho

[dull flame]

safyia's pyramid provides too big of a damage increase

[grim lance]

It wont work
I tried it

[dull flame]

can skriath get killed?

[grim lance]

Nah

[dull flame]

hmm, can you sub out athalia for merlin?

[grim lance]

Yeah

[dull flame]

try that

[grim lance]

Maybe I need a mehira merc

[dull flame]

hmmm

dont think she'll charm fast enough

[grim lance]

She would

[dull flame]

you can try that then

[grim lance]

Ok thanks

[dull flame]

np

power caps a btch

[grim lance]

Yeah I hate it

[dull flame]

Stuck at floor 615 cause of it

[gentle kayak]

Rowan is si20+

[dull flame]

afk helper not helping?

[gentle kayak]

Wdym👀

[dull flame]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[gentle kayak]

Oh that, no

[dull flame]

did you check it?

[gentle kayak]

Yes

[dull flame]

ok, well first of all your positioning makes no sense

talene in the back? she's meant to heal your allies, not deal damage, so she should be frontline. Also, why is brutus there? He's protecting no one, put brutus in front of daimon isntead

[gentle kayak]

Some dude cleared it like this so i copied him lmao

[dull flame]

artifacts might be differnt

[gentle kayak]

I checked they were same only difference was stronger daimon

[gentle kayak]

Nvm ppl i beat it

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions on what to focus?

[tough ice]

Feral, rowan, grezul top 3

[whole cliff]

any ideas for best team?

[lofty oracle]

Chapter 35-48. Been stuck for days but dont know where to focus other than alna

[old oar]

Any ideas? BTW (ik I have many legendarys)

[supple mantle]

Ferael
Brutus
Lyca
Rowan
Daimon

Maybe? Idk how good antandra is

[old oar]

She 2M

[supple mantle]

try lineup if that doesn’t work replace lyca with antandra or smthn

[old oar]

K

It worked. Thx!

[supple mantle]

👍🏻

[vale dune]

Why is lightbearears only strong when theyre enemies

They wipe the team ugh

[tough ice]

everyone is strong when theyre enemies :*) Do you need help on that battle?

[vale dune]

Yeah I already used my less strong 2, I think

I have Ainz on 3 but this team gets wipes faster there

[tough ice]

Do you have another healer except silas, I would go 2 healers for that battle if you get wiped fast

[vale dune]

I see. I have E+ Thalene, Pipa and Lucius I can use lol not the greatest options

Maybe I can swap around

I can take Merlin that team is strong enough I guess

[tough ice]

how well can aniz beat team 3/ cause I think you should put merlin in 2

[tight juniper]

You can try to use Thoran cheese for the 3rd team

[vale dune]

I did 3 without Merlin it was fine

Should I swap him in with Farael or?

[tough ice]

Thoran or daimon; you want cc

[vale dune]

I still dont know how to Cheese lol

[tight juniper]

Do you at least have Pippa +20?

[vale dune]

The butler is too strong

[vale dune]

Yes pipa is 20 something

[tight juniper]

Flora, Ezizh, Pippa, Thoran, Lorsan. I forgot the artifacts but make sure that Pippa teleports Thoran. I think she had windbinder or warden arcane.

[tough ice]

by teleport thoran, he means put thoran in front row and put pippa behind thoran that is not the middle

[tight juniper]

Replace Safiya with ferael. You should get Daimon to level 240 instead of rosa.

[tight juniper]

No, I meant Thoran in the middle. 🧏‍♂️ Strange but it worked.

[tough ice]

What? When I thoran cheese I never ut thoran in back. Does that actually work?

[cunning warren]

don’t have enough gear for 3 agility based heroes

well I do but it’s not enhanced

[tough ice]

thats fine if theyre mostly mythic i think. Try it anyway

[tight juniper]

You have to make sure that Thoran gets teleported. This clear is ch 36 but it has the same enemies.

I forgot the artifacts used. You can try putting thoran in front if it actually helps.

[vale dune]

Ill try that since this isnt working. Although my Ezizh isnt built. Just E

[tight juniper]

That's fine, he's used for energy.

[tough ice]

interesting... Chapter 37 and never remember doing that...

[vale dune]

Thoran just dies in the middle.

Do I need to build Flora for this?

[tight juniper]

No. My flora in the ss is legendary, so she doesn't need investment. Show artifacts.

[tight juniper]

Put call on thoran. If Pippa doesn't teleport Thoran, put windbinder. If that doesn't work, put windbinder on flora maybe?

[vale dune]

I guess it kinda worked do I keep replaying?

[tight juniper]

Yeah, thoran cheese in general is a lot of RNG.

[vale dune]

I see. The same happend 2 more times but Tasi never dies

[tight juniper]

Make sure that Thoran got t2 5* weapon and boots for more accuracy.

[vale dune]

Ahhh I see. Should I steal T3s from Daimon for now?

[tight juniper]

Well, yeah if you're not using him elsewhere in campaign.

[vale dune]

This Tasi still survives

[tight juniper]

Rng

[vale dune]

Oooh it just worked

The rng is a bit annoying but a cheap method haha

[tight juniper]

Well congrats 👏

[vale dune]

Thanks for helping

[tight juniper]

Np

[vale dune]

So at least T2 s on Thoran and +30 pipa to make cheesing better right

[tight juniper]

No, +20 is fine for Pippa. T2 5* weapon and boots are good enough for Thoran as long as he has accurate.

[vale dune]

Ahh now I can Ainz the butler

[vale dune]

Oh okay

[naive remnant]

I've progressed as far as I can in all modes, spent all my diamonds and scrolls, and I'm stick with this roster. Unable to ascend Mirael and no other apparent carry units. How do I get further from this? Should I switch servers and try getting better pulls?

[vale dune]

Someone told me to +30 pipa next in the help section back a while ago

[tight juniper]

Weird, 20 is fine enough as she doesn't need 30.
@naive remnant You can just afk and wait til you get Mirael to e+/l/l+.

[naive remnant]

I don't know what that means. This is the first time I've played this game.

[tight juniper]

Elite+, legendary, legendary+.

[vale dune]

Hmm I see then I’ll leave Pipa at 20 thank you

@naive remnant its a dupe system

[naive remnant]

How do I get her there without any copies?

[tight juniper]

You need copies to get to different tier.

[naive remnant]

But the only copies I'm pulling is niru. I can make him legendary if I wanted

I updated my wishlist according to the newbie guide when I started out, so I've gotten a weird number of niru dupes

[tight juniper]

Don't fodder ascended tier heroes. But you can level other heroes instead of Mira.

[naive remnant]

Do I have any other decent carry units? Should I reset Mira and level up one of the others?

[vale dune]

@tight juniper uh a quick question what should be the enemy teams like so we can cheese them?

[tight juniper]

Honestly, you should cheese the Flora teams. Since you're close to -60, use Thoran to go against Flora Rosa Ceci. Or cheese heroes that generally deal lots of damage like Solise.

[vale dune]

Okay thanks a lot for helping and teaching me how to cheese I noted what you said

[tight juniper]

[viral tiger]

how can i improve this?

[solid stirrup]

put mirael center

But also wukong carry is pretty good at lvl 100 I think

[cunning warren]

any ideas?

[stable ember]

Not getting anywhere RNGing this one. Suggestions are welcome

[warm nebula]

So, I'm on track to get Lucretia from the Frosty Festivities event. I also have the Swap Scroll from completing Chapter 24. Should I swap her with one of my Ascended Heroes? I was thinking maybe I could bind Ainz to Kren and switch with Gwyneth.

[stable ember]

You can't use it on hypo/cele only 4f

[warm nebula]

Ah. Well, never mind, thank you

Well, I figure did ask if there's anyone you guys would recommend switching

[fiery wing]

fereal (remove weapon & eye)

thoran
rowan
brutus
daimon

if it doesnt work switch daimon and fereal, or play around them

[naive hamlet]

Switch Rosaline lvls with stitchy

[stable ember]

I always forget that removing ferael wep is a thing. Good call

[naive hamlet]

You could just save it, or Saurus wouldn’t be a bad option

I’m not very good tho so I’d wait for an actual good player to tell you something lol

[upbeat fossil]

no dont swap anyone, and stop engraving heroes just because u have the resources to...

(6th December 2021 - added yellow circles to Kren's ACC node)

Top priorities for engraving, if you choose to engrave these heroes in the first place. Engravings require 1* on the hero to unlock. E41/44 takes about 1.7k cores.
My advice is to take a really long time to think about which of these you want to engrave and why (for which modes), because engravings are irreversible and you cannot swap engraved heroes to another hero.
I'd say Grezhul E41 is safe for anyone to do.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864870007418257418/917427273873899540/ee.jpg

yes but again, u dont have to engrave heroes just because u can
#1 priority is Grezhul

i'm not sure about his ability to tank midgame, but he can surely carry once he gets his 9/9
idk what your wishlist looks like but refer to Phoenix's Beginner Guide (read my pinned msg in #classic-questions), replace heroes once they reach Ascended, while for Grezhul leave him on till Ascended 1* for engravings
if u dont know who to replace A heroes with, ask in #classic-questions

[rotund haven]

Help I can’t beat this one. Everyone just gets one shot, including daimon with his +20 sig item

Jk I just got godly rng somehow

[fiery wing]

no brutus?

[rotund haven]

I might have an elite one, and I don’t know why I didn’t think to use that 🤦🏽‍♂️

[fiery wing]

brutus is way better than mezoth

[stable ember]

I still use an elite one now and then on ch30

[supple mantle]

Show rest of box pls

[vagrant ibex]

Try
Lyca thoran
Daimon rowan fera/oden

[barren badge]

Anyone can replace ezizh until he's ready?
Where can I find other lucerita comps or comps in general?

[winged mica]

Need help

Pls help a wanna go chapter 11 😄

[lament iron]

try:
rowan
daimon
arden
thoran
framton

[winged mica]

Ok

Let me try

10 times tried And faili

I passed after 100 try:D

How can i do that

I dont have enough fodder for it 😦

I dont know what to buy , if u say do that And u sure, i can buy gb fodder

Newbie isseus can waste my resources:D

They Said dont but anything go for mortas twin thorus or lucretia

Yeap ı know what u mean

I have just 135 snow cyrstal

Oh really sooo

I can buy 18 chest

Thank u let me try it 🙂 can u suggest anything after daimon M ?

I must go for thorus or Rowan ?

Ok 🙂 ❤️

Yeap i need 1 more rowan

But they Said ch 12 give a box about to choos a epic

😄 maybe I read wrong ( bad English🥲)

That could be

Thx❤️

11 reward is nemora I don’t know others:)

Nice to meet u and thank u so much 🙂

Alright boss💪🏻💪🏻

[pale kettle]

who Can make me 3 lineup please

[silk burrow]

How do you get those 🤕

[safe hazel]

New event

[silk burrow]

Ik but how do you do the event I’ve been trying to figure it out for so long 🤕 it tells me to do ladybird and when I do it it just gives me normal rewards

[safe hazel]

You get the keys from the daily quests

[silk burrow]

Labyrinth*

[safe hazel]

You get 30 every day then you go on the event and start unlocking squares

[silk burrow]

What? I do my quest but I’ve never gotten a key or orchid

[safe hazel]

It doesn’t happen if it’s your first day playing during the event

But on the second day of login it gives you a key

I will send a ss of what it looks like @silk burrow

[silk burrow]

Ok thx

[safe hazel]

Those keys I’m the middle are what you get @silk burrow

[silk burrow]

Yeah I’ve been doing those

I stared last week and it’s been bugging me abt the event every day

[safe hazel]

Then go on Frosty Isles and open the squares not frost festivities

[silk burrow]

I don’t get keys for some reason

[safe hazel]

Have you claimed all your dailies?

[silk burrow]

Yes

[safe hazel]

If you’re not getting keys contact afk arena support

Maybe it’s glitched for you or something

[stable ember]

My junk alt is flopping on this one. Any suggestions?

[silk burrow]

Yeah I will bc it’s telling me I claimed them but says I don’t have them

[safe hazel]

Yh you’ll probably get the keys back if you contact support just remember for most floors you want to instantly jump to the next floor but every 10 floors you want to claim every single reward then go to the next one

[safe hazel]

Would daimon die if you put him frontline

[silk burrow]

I sent them a message

[safe hazel]

You can use desira if you have her I can’t see all of your heroes

[silk burrow]

Probably not bc of his shields tbh

[stable ember]

Yeah, daimon flops Frontline on that acc and no desira; I did add the hero box too

[safe hazel]

Maybe try lyca frontline instead of silvina

So you get the haste and she sacrificed herself

[stable ember]

Probably better, been playing around a few ways to stall the healing first

Since dps isn't very high with an unbuilt daimon

[safe hazel]

Do you have 6 thoran copies?

[stable ember]

Yup. Only one I have 6 of on that acc actually

[royal stag]

@supple mantle u beat 37-12 round 3 ?

[supple mantle]

A lot of retrys but it works also make sure izold is bound with someone (sometimes it isnt cuz pippa has to much haste)

[royal stag]

Thank you

[winged mica]

Did u find it

[silk burrow]

Yeah I just figured out I wasn’t getting them because my game is glitched!

[pale kettle]

Need help

Can’t kill the mage before she ults

Even if I put framtom in the middle

[fiery wing]

nara?

[pale kettle]

Don’t have

[fiery wing]

u still have the chest with the 10 faction scrolls?

[pale kettle]

No I already used them in graveborn

[fiery wing]

😦

[pale kettle]

How would she help

[fiery wing]

nara is literally the counter of isabella

she hooks enemies in front her

[pale kettle]

Alright I have 20scrolls rn

[fiery wing]

try to get one copy of her

[pale kettle]

Got one

[fiery wing]

replace him with rowan

[pale kettle]

Ok

[warm swan]

Or you can try silvina. She dives against enemy mages.

[pale kettle]

I tried silvina

[pale kettle]

Nara dies too quickly

[fiery wing]

does she grab isabella onto your side?

[pale kettle]

Yes

Then dies 3sec after

[fiery wing]

i see try

silas/rowan

daimon
nara
hogan
frampton

try it and hope for rng will work, i think this is because daimon is not strong enough

[pale kettle]

Yeah

[pale kettle]

Thank you, it worked

[fiery wing]

grats

[whole cliff]

how can i beat this stage?

[tepid scaffold]

any suggestions? been trying to beat this for 20 minutes

[winged mica]

How u can beat those campaings with low levels… am I doing something wrong

[drowsy gazelle]

The higher u go, the more common it is. Just progress slowly

[winged mica]

I stucked there

[winged mica]

I know but I can’t defeat even +20 level versus

[tepid scaffold]

you will get better equipment and unlock more stuff for your heroes later, like furniture and signature items, wich really helps to progress higher

[winged mica]

Daimon does 1 m damage still can’t pass 😄

[winged mica]

Oh yeap I don’t have them

Saveas healing so much healt I can’t counter it

[winged mica]

Passed
Titus

thoran
Rowan
daimon
Arven

If anyone care 😄

[warm swan]

@tepid scaffold rowan with chalice/call in front of ezizh. Brutus in front of enemy athalia. Myb give call to tasi also for faster sleep. And hope to god that lucretia+athalia can wipe

[tepid scaffold]

My Athalia just melts in seconds lol, I got down to just Ezizh and Rosa twice and only Rosa once, but its just by pure luck

[tepid scaffold]

Ferael

Rowan
Rosa on Ferael
Alna
Lucretia
did it

[winged mica]

GJ

[safe hazel]

try doing PoT

just look up the guides for them on google and merc a good hero

and you can get good artifacts

[old oar]

Any ideas? The (1) is already working. I just need help with the second

[loud pebble]

What should i try?

[safe hazel]

Any help

[loud pebble]

Garrison ainz and fuse him with pepi, since you don’t use her just try getting ainz

[old oar]

Any ideas?

[supple mantle]

Daimon
Rowan
Lyca
Brutus
Antandra

[old oar]

K

It worked!…. Now This…. Any ideas?

[supple mantle]

Same maybe ? Lyca bottom and daimon mid

[old oar]

K

[supple mantle]

idk for this tho

[old oar]

Np thx for the one before tho!

[supple mantle]

Basically try out some stuff with daimon lyca Brutus as ur main carry’s

Maybe antandra frontrow sometimes

[old oar]

It worked! Thx

[golden trench]

any line up for this stage?

[old oar]

This might be impossible….pls

Omgggg

I got it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[old oar]

Any ideas?

[gloomy meadow]

some help?the last battle to finish the lyrical exploration

[cunning warren]

need help

[old oar]

Any ideas?

[jade onyx]

Lyca pos 1, Brutus pos 2, Ferael pos 3, Rowan pos 4, Daimon pos 5 or post what comp you’re already using for battle 1

[jade onyx]

Lyca pos 1, Lucius pos 2, Tasi pos 3, Ainz pos 4, Oden pos 5 lemme know how it goes 🙂

[old oar]

K

It didnt work 😔

[jade onyx]

It was a long shot, your second teams not that developed, was it even close?

[old oar]

No 😞 but thanks for taking your time

[jade onyx]

Maybe Lucretia can carry if you stack her with Lyca/Hendricks with barricade up front, and Luc pos 3 and sacrificial lambs for the rest

[safe hazel]

Get a merc to carry you

[royal stag]

Ask if Lucretia or Rowan first for there +30

[winged mica]

Need help anyone here ?

[worldly apex]

try swapping shem and rosa, rosa follows daimon

what happens

[winged mica]

Let me try

Tried 10 times rosa use ult just 1 time, shemira take 2 shoot all round And ı tried with titus

Time up defeated.. i will try some other runs

I need titus stun to active rosa ult or she is dieing

[royal stag]

The only thing u need is Daimon M +20

[winged mica]

What is m 20 ?

[royal stag]

Mystic and signature item +20

[winged mica]

I dont know signature items:( And f2p just have 1 legend item 🙂

Let me Google it

[winged mica]

@worldly apex any suggest ?

[winged mica]

Where can i find them

[worldly apex]

you got timed out?

[winged mica]

Yeap 😄

I will try some more runs if u dont have any suggestion

[winged mica]

Oh ı need m daimon 😄 Maybe in 3 days i have some scroll for grave

And one more copy daimon

[royal stag]

7 Daimon copies at chapter 11 is kinda nutz

[winged mica]

Omg done

[winged mica]

Yeap so lucky ❤️❤️❤️

@worldly apex
Rosa(daimon)

daimon
Rowan
thorus
Titus
Done thank u so much

[worldly apex]

gj

[thorny fulcrum]

I picked up Brutus, was excited to give me a go. So far I haven't seen him ult once. Stuck at 12-4, any help appreciated!

[stable ember]

Brutus honestly won't usually ult, he is just good at being alive guaranteed until his immunity runs out, it becomes very strong later on when most anything will get 1 shot anyways

Like if thoran goes down enemies won't focus him until he revives and will go at your backline, but Brutus will keep the aggro until he fully dies

[brazen owl]

Any tips on how to setup my lineup with the heroes I have

[safe hazel]

did you just get insane luck

or did you pay real money for summons

[winged mica]

Insane luck And third account

I wanna pay money but our money is trash Dollar is so expensive for me

[safe hazel]

where u from?

i'm from uk but wouldn't weaker currency be good because ik in other games lower pay countries had cheaper purchases

even if you did money conversion the lower pay countries had a major discount

[winged mica]

Turkey

[winged mica]

My English not enough to understand that let me translate ;D

[winged mica]

There is no discount here, valve discounting in game but not afk arena 😄

[sage yarrow]

almost no game does that, Turkey and Russia are always screwed over
even in games that do discounts, they sometimes release a new product and its like 600% price

[winged mica]

++++ bro

So guys can u help me about lineup stucked again 🙂

[safe hazel]

oh i remember for fn argentina had a 50% discount or smth

[sage yarrow]

yeah, but still more expansive usually
€ is stronger than usd and we often also pay more, its stupid
I'd love to just pay in usd 9 out of 10 times

[winged mica]

Need help @sage yarrow can u check it

[safe hazel]

same with £ sometimes games love favouring the USA

[safe hazel]

that looks like a level issue

the rule for campaign is 50% power and you can beat it most of the time

so it would be just under 180k power in this case

[winged mica]

I am sooo close to defeat:((( just I can’t reach melinda

[safe hazel]

try oden/silas they could work

oden stealing energy let me go just below 50% before so could work for you

[winged mica]

Okey let me try but I don’t have space in RC 💀😅

[sage yarrow]

i would also just wait it out or try Silvina maybe to focus Mira

[safe hazel]

don't waste gems trying to renew the timer

either remove a hero u don't use to put oden in after 24 hr

or just wait till you can unlock a slot

[sage yarrow]

i think your top left Titus does nothing for you there, try Silvina or Mortas or Wukong, don't know if he is missing any skills though from his full kit

@winged mica

Daimon can also be used in AlnaGB

[safe hazel]

oh i thought he falls off later on

[sage yarrow]

he's still used in a lot of comps iirc
Even Raku sometimes

[winged mica]

I am using him for the start stun all seconds imported, my spell casters getting one shot 😄
I will try mortas I love him

[fiery wing]

he might fall off in early game, but he is certainly being used in some comps in the mid - late game

[rough wolf]

Can someone explain my power is too low and struggling in chapter 9 , is it cuz the formation or?

[safe hazel]

Look at beginner guide pinned on #classic-questions

[proper summit]

Best hunter feast line up?

[stable ember]

Kaz refuses to die even when the rest of the rng lines up. Any ideas?

[warm yew]

Use brutus instead of thoran, try arden middle instead of top also utilize mirael as your highest level carry in back middle (reset other heroes first)

[fiery wing]

dealing kaz takes rng tho

[pale kettle]

Hi guys, do you have any idea what are the best main 5 team for pvp ?

Ainz should still be decent
Lucretia twins
Alna GB
Thoran ?
Invade team with Skreg ?
Burst team with zaph/zolrath ?

How about new cele/hypo. Are they going to fit in one team ?

[pale kettle]

Haelus fits in Lucretia comp, he replaces Eluard/Skreg

[winged mica]

@safe hazel that was not easy but oden worked passed. Thanks ❤️‍🩹(tired warrior)

[winged mica]

And I passed chapter 11 rn with him thanks dude

Love u❤️‍🩹

[pale kettle]

Thank you good to know !

[winged mica]

There is a pinned message in #classic-questions did u read that

It can help u till the 160 level cap

80-80-1-1-1 level is not good

U r welcome have fun

U can reset them with 20 diamond each go for 60 60 60 60 then 100-60-60-60 then 100 100 100 bla bla 🙂

All writing in the guides #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

hi i started the game a week ago i am stuck in chapter 11.

which team would you advise me?

[stable ember]

Go to the #classic-questions channel and read the beginners guides in the Pins. The first major thing is don't make heroes legendary when you can't make them legendary+

Lineup probably will be some variation of daimon, thoran, silas or desira, ferael and lyca, with optional Brutus

[old oar]

Any ideas? I already got the first Done. Need help with second

[pale kettle]

Sorry

[pale kettle]

Thx

[pale kettle]

help?

[winged mica]

I dont even know those heros 😅

[safe hazel]

Np @ me any time you need help with a level and I’ll try to help

[cunning warren]

need help

[fiery wing]

fereal

thoran
nara
brutus
daimon

[fiery wing]

swap eirron and astar, or play around with the formations ezizh can be troublesome

[echo basin]

Any tips? I have room ib my resonating crystal if i need to put a lvl 1 hero in it

[loud pebble]

The day someone will help me with my lineup i will do a party and open the champagne.

[safe hazel]

Rowan back middle oden instead of Arden should work

Put call on daimon as well

[pale kettle]

help

[old oar]

Any ideas? I already have the first done. News help with the second