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Omg after switching some gear around I made it with 5s left on the clock. 
Help please
I have Lucius and i want to replace him. I have izold or grezhul. My team comp so far is Gweneth, Peggy, Rowan, Diamon, and Lucius.
What level if your higher levels then go for grez if not use iz
I know small amounts of things about high levels but I have heard that zolarath helps
@rapid sage flora stages are usually thoran cheese. Or alna grez
Would a merc thoran work? And do I need 5* call for it?
No need for a 5* call. You got plenty of energy batteries there with rowan, ezizh, talene, etc.
Go for something like thoran, flex, pippa, flex, lorsan. Need to check if lorsan will link rowan and rigby together since oscar will prolly dive
Ainz can also work in Flora stages in ch 35 and 36
@ebon hazel would this be possible with Luc or just Ainzbedo?
Luc Brutus Skriath EIronn Safiya
this seems to keep on happening
Who's living>
Or yeah this one @rapid sage . I'm sorry, I immediately assumed ainz was already used on another stage.
@ebon hazel Ezizh, Nara and Niru
Then try Lyca Brutus Skriath Eironn Lucretia
Or first team but drop Brutus for Lyca and give Lyca shroud
will try that because about 15 tries and none of them got any kills, also what artifact for Luc?
Luc is Longbow or Shroud, Eye if you need more damage but don't have longbow
Lemme try to get Shroud some stars, only got the artifact not the things to level it yet
My Ainz isn't strong enough to win vs flora, I think I'll just merc an Alna next week, you think something like this will work?
@rapid sage might work, might not. Only one way to find out 

Is it okay to start garrisoning ainz now? Or focus on getting them all to M+ and A
I'm a bit stuck. I'm new so idk much about who to build. Which hero shoud I focus on?
9/9 furn raku or wait to get skreg 9/9?
Any ideas?
@plucky gorge daimon
Brutus daimon eironn/nara rowan ferael or maybe rowan daimon nara/eironn ferael brutus
Stop ascending heroes to legendary if you can’t instantly ascend them to l+ because you’ll waste fodder and get stuck. Focus on daimon and rowan
I think you should start garrison yes if you have the resources
Someone has a line up for 37-16 been stuck for weeks now
an extension of this, try to avoid ascending anyone unless you have enough fodder to M+ them
need help for 8-28 please :')
Thoran just about solos Luc every retry and saf cant get her pyramid off, any tips?
Try brutus thoran shemira mirael daimon
ty!
Your team has 0 supports and no faction bonus. Also you are wasting your fodder by making all those L and L+ units. You should read the pinned messages in here and #classic-questions
Also levelling heroes equally is a waste. Have your main damage dealer be 20-40 levels above everyone else at all times.
Thank you who should I put in support
It has been a while since I was early game so my early game meta knowledge is a bit rusty. Most heroes that are listed as supports are better than nothing, but a healer would be nice, like Silas, Rowan, Nemora could all work for early. Also Arden is a great support to stun the enemies, abuse him while you still can.
Antandra or Estrilda. Kinda depending on which one is the most useless to the team. You can test things out.
@kindred plume Make sure you are following the beginner wishlist in #classic-questions pinned messages. Out of your top 5 units only 1 is part of that list and the other 4 are really meh.
How'd I go about beating this
How many retries do you have? It is Ainz so he should usually be able to brute force that deficit.
about 30 atm Id say
Have you gotten close?
Not quite, usually Ainz gets charmed and dies
What if you put Ainz top side with Arthur so he keeps his shield and cc immunity?
and suddenly I beat it with ease this game is weird sometimes thanks for your time tho 🙂
This is what I meant with the brute force thing. Usually Ainz just requires a few retries to beat any team, especially when you are not doing too insane of a deficit.
I am actually pretty sure that I have done like 50 tower stages in a row without changing my Ainz comp at all
Doesnt always work for me sometimes gotta switch some things around or use different supports
If you have a ferael I would recommend testing him in Ainz comp, he is just so good there.
have him M+20
ainz bedo arthur merlin ezio, grez daimon silas oden fera, alna luc twins rowan ezizh
Any help i can get to beat this
How in the heck do you beat E60 5 Star Seirus / Talene in Dismal Lab? Dude is immortal.
What could I to get more damage. I currently get 2.3 billion damage
Any advice? I’m using nara to pull the mirael away from the back but idk if that’s the prime thing to do/if I should strengthen her.
I don’t really have any healers beyond tasi Silas and numisu either but idk if I should put either of the latter 2 on the RC
I guess I’ll put Silas on the RC just for now— Id still have 2 free spaces after if I do
@gaunt dragon grez is not so good on guild bosses since he relies on stealing stats, and wrizz stats is poo. Merc an engraved bel instead, the fatter the better. Alternatively, you can use raku instead of bel.
I’m already merc a juiced Saraus, should I ditch him?
Daimon works better back i see you insist on using him front
@gaunt dragon oh, okay. That puts you in a bind then. Keep the saurus ig. And find a sub for the heroes in this post
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/nkiiej/aa_guild_hunt_v164/
Is there something wrong with my line up
@prisma heath try switching it up. Brutus in pos 1, lyca in 2, daimon 3, rowan, grez
Ok
Still didn’t work
Try something like
treznor
Grez/lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
Does he? I thought tanks were generally just better in front
Daimon works better back, front he just dies too quickly. It depends on the enemies as well but usually back
Ahh I see— so in stages where enemy Ogi would be a threat he’d be better in back?
Use him on the back all the time if he dies too quickly front, use someone to buy him time for like 2 ults
Definitely better in the back, as well as the stall from Brutus (I still use an E copy of him) can do a lot of work getting daimon set up.
What would be a good setup for this then? I’ve been trying with nara directly across from Belinda since she + Ogi are the bigger threats (the Arden is just annoying)
I would try
Daimon
Brutus
Arden
Either other tank
Nara
Brutus golus daimon nara silvina
Nara will do more work stalling ardens cc than going for belinda
Everyone just dies faster
Yeah my daimon dies even faster with both of those
Ig i just have to wait and level everyone up more :/
Or just switch positions between heroes over and over again until you win 😂
^ that is my go to after I give up on thinking thru a lineup
Only upgrade 5 heros
Put Tasi or Daimon in ur Crystal
Tasi is in Crystal, waiting for my 5 fodder heroes to get to 100 before resetting daimon and putting him in
Like this, like the guide said. Ira’s only at 2 bc the tutorial makes you upgrade her + i dont think it’s worth resetting just 1 level
But as it stands do I look like I’m on the right track so far?
I think you should try and keep diamon off the crystal right? If you can push him further than other people you want to do that, because he’s a very good carry
Not if he's lower ascension
Ah okay didn’t notice that
Yea if I get him ascended like REALLY high then absolutely but atm I don’t have any copies or fodder for him rly so his max is 100
Stop ascending heroes to legendary if you can’t instantly ascend them to l+, especially the useless ones like thane. Lvl up the only 5 heroes that you’re using in your team, you have more leveled up which is another waste of resources. Go to questions and read pinned messages ☺️
i took a peek at this beginners guide, the team composition section says about the "carry", i believe that currently my wukong is the carry, to what point is this applicable. around what chapter should i change over my carry?
Are fodders an exception since they’re easier to get + they raise the RC?
dont L a fodder till u can L+ it
i see a lot of people saying this, i'm quite new at the game and dont understand why, can you please explain
im not the best person to explain it tbh
If I get Damien copies should I use shemira to fodder him?
It’s not recommended to use ascended tier heroes as fodder better be patient
^^
Nope you have an elite wukong only and won’t be able to get many copies of him soon
👍
Which ascended tier heroes are like..... outright bad if any
Go to heroes->portraits and you’ll see there are ascended tier heroes, legendary tier heroes and common
I know that, I was just asking which ascended tier heroes are straight up bad in your opinion
I’ll send you something
Im getting so close, I just need to kill Vedan since he just Doesn’t Die
He’s usually the only one left
Vedan needs to be countered with burst
Thane (for now), Oscar, Rigby, Walker, fawks falls off, anoki, drez, khasos, granite is meh, kaz, solise, ulmus, seirus, Thorne, baden, kelthur (important to have but no investment) wukong is niche but nice to have, same with orthros, he only becomes good late game, flora is meh (no investment needed), leofric is meh, ukyo
Thane, drez, kelthur are great for Abyssal Expedition, and baden is nice for hunting fields tho
Idr what I did for this on the original acct, any advice?
what is the si and furn of izold, lucius and belinda?
save it there is no hero that is bad that you have
I have desiraE+(120), oden(120), rowanL(121), DaimonL(140) main carry frontline, GrezhulE+(120)frontline, i still can't procced on chap 11-22
When does MV become available?
I mean what Chapter does it unlock
Try building an L+ fodder tank like Hogan or Golus, use them with Brutus front too.
You'll be fine after you get past 120 just little bit of a grind for now
Read the pins of you haven't, using L+ fodders easily goes to lvl160
i read those guides on pin already.... but it was a little too late hahahaha
You're also just 1 copy away for L+ daimon, just pray bro
Beat ch 17
yea, i was expect to use the chapter 12 reward to choose if i dint get
i think im able to make shemira L+
Don't
Brutus 120 L is nt as tank as Grezhul E+ 120...
You're priority is to break the 160 lvl cap
where do i earn a lot of hero essence
@neat walrus https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/q75hdp/where_to_get_dust_an_infographic_for_beginners/
tqtq
all ur heroes are L...
whyyyy
hi! need help for 8-32 ;w;
I need help
Try putting daimond where hogan is and replace hogan with lyca and you could try to replace thoran with shemira
thank u, i'll try that out!
Np
Try
Daimon
--------Brutus
Gwynith
--------Rowan
Grezhul
Yet another Isabella team causing issues. Any suggestions?
Brutus daimon nara rowan ferael. Your comp should also work just spam the try again button I suppose
I'm trying to send pictures of the game and got explicit message filter issue...
Part1
I have this comp that I'm thinking about building.
I've finished zolrath A. Now I can get my last copy of eluard and a copy for ezizh to get him to mythic.
Getting ezizh to A is going to be an issue. Will using 209 tasi be better?
I don't have enough si for both ezizh and Eluard, which one takes precedence?
Part2
Part 3
I'm sorry for the "spam" discord is messed up and think afk is nudity.
@barren badge this is for pvp yeah? Ezizh is basically core in any cycle comps so far (luc cycle, luc-alna cycle, saurus cycle, etc) so if you want to go for those comps, then prio is ezizh. There is also the luc-eluard cycle, but like I've said, if it's a cycle comp, ezizh is also part of it
I've got a good ainz killer comp, u guys wanna see it?
@honest fern here
okay will try, thanks
around 15-20 of these fights ended with those 2 guys alive
help wtf
tips for 10-19 please :') saveas melts
Worked?
Perhaps put in this order
Ferael Arthur prince Rowan Raku
Otherwise just Daimon it
i changed location of raku with ferael and arthur with rowan and it worked
I'm a genius 😎
Is there any heroes I can put to make the 2nd comp a better defense? Made it to top 3 yesterday, but got beat down to 30th today.
Edit: I really only went for cc invested heroes and tried to make a filler comp. But I want to know if there's a better option for a stargaze focused account
thanks
get nemora and maybe Lucius, and, personal opinion, always have a healer and a tank on the team
What am i doing wrong?? Multiple ppl on afkhelper passed with this comp with same/less investment but this is as far as i can get
It might just be a high retry stage. Also, if you are at < 100 deficit thoran can sometimes be harder to win with.
what's your deficit?
179
Maybe try for stars on thoran
Possible with thoran but hilariously difficult rng. Much rather do alna GB here, something like alna grez fera silas daimon
If ur going for thoran cheese
What good does that do
Just boosts in stats and shit
But i would maybe try to raise ur defict or just retry over and over
The game has massive rng
I don't recommend thoran for this stage, the rng is much higher than normal
Pls help guys
With what level and show ur lineup
That stage is horrible, it requires a bunch of retries until Thoran one shots everyone and can survive with one more ult for Flora
i just used a standard fereal daimon rowan comp there
fereal (no weap)
grez
rowan
brutus/thoran
daimon
Any recommendations for this? Ran this comp for over 10 hours and wasn't able to get a W, saw it a couple times on afkhelper..
Can Thoran ult or is it that he doesn't get dealt enough damage? It's also possible that you don't have enough accuracy.
I get 2 ults off but skreg is still alive. (I don't know anything about Thoran comp.. just started using him this Chapter and just copy it off afk helper since I dont understand it tbh)
What does his gear look like? Make sure you have t2 5* weapon and boots
Strange. It's possible it's just RNG.
Okay. Is there some reason I should be using Lyca instead of Ezizh here?
On prev comps I always ran ezizh instead of lyca, but on afkhelper here everyone was using Lyca on this chapter thoran comp so I just followed along..
From those clears, switch Lorsan and Flora's position.
I actually did do that just as I made the post, I also put flora in front and lyca back middle
@tight juniper dint u alrd clear this. Just show him your clear ffa
I didn't use Thoran cheese for that clear iirc
😮 I have a really nice hero pool tbh but I never thought of making a team besides thoran 😮
would make my life so easy.. all my other teams are 1 try wins for every chapter
Then just show him
Your entire clear smh
Okay smh
Yeah, I used Lucy cheese instead of Thoran.
Ive got lucy for another team.
Lucy comp/Ainz comp/Graveborn comp/Thoran comp/Raku+Oden+MKhaz+E+Mirahana+Rowan random comp
@rocky nimbus If you want, you can use my clears.
ill try that think I can put all that together
Tf is thay antandra r5. Why is your r2 so fuxkinf jacked
I lack lots of heroes and Antandra randomly op
Unnecessary
destroys the mauler tower 😄
@drowsy gazelle If it works, it works. 
@tight juniper u dont have alna?
Shes only L atm 
Thats my motto anyway. I make random bullshit clears
Wonder what lvl i will be at end of 36
Probably 3 months from now, i will go to 37
Hopefully lucretia is ascended by that time. Tired to merc her
Good luck to 37
Lol thx but i dont need it. 36 is ez
Thanks 🙂 Finally beat it!
Np
i need some advice, please! my daimon is elite and I'm not sure if it's advisable to keep using him since he dies so quickly, even with silas
thinking it might be a level issue, but mirael can usually chunk them a good bit :'3 my issue is just tanks not standing long enough for her to kill everything, both healers don't get much of an opportunity to heal because they just get chonked by saveas/lyca
tried lyca but her haste felt like it didn't do much in this specific stage?
tried silvina but she dies fairly quickly too ;;
Anyone 36 cleared the Black Woods ToG? Having a hard time clearing it with Ainz Comp
Daimon shouldn't really be in the front usually. You need him to get set up so put him behind Brutus or thoran. Brutus especially- I still use him at elite on stage 26.
If support aren't able to get any abilities off anyways then lyca isn't wasting anything being there since you get the boost.
Really stuck here. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Why not cheese it? Thoran have to ult b4 dying to proc brutus immune then after thoran revive, ult again. Either pippa/5pull
Raku Charm.
Rosaline (Mehira follow) | Rowan | Lyca | Mehira | Raku
Thanks guys, I'll try both. Haven't really got the hang of thoran cheese yet but i guess nows a good time
@pale kettle can you try that with thoran, brutus, saf, rowan, daimon. In that order
Any ideas?
plz help ???
Brutus rowan ferael nara daimon should work after a few tries
Struggling. Have tried the top few comps I can make from afk helper. Any suggestions appreciated
Have tried variations on my 3 main teams - AAAM, luc 5p and daimon gb
Maybe AAA, Merlin and Rowan
Yea that's my normal comp actually, got close a few times but no joy
Or Alna, Grezhul, Oden, Ferael, Daimon
I'd try Rowan, merlin, albedo, ainz, ferael 
Or maybe daimon with a barricade instead of Rowan if ainz dies too fast
Was trying to avoid using a merc on this stage (alna) so I can use on 33-60
No joy
Ainz has WOTA - is that best here?
Yes
I might need help here
I can probably win every other fight but this one is tough
Afk helper suggests Ainz team but I can't get it to work, anything I must keep in mind or any hero I should/shouldn't use?
Most clears use orthros instead of ezizh for the bombs, and joker/mortas instead of merlin. Also using good gear on pop helps alot with consistency I find
Don't have Orthros at all 
Don't have Joker but maybe can get Mortas to work, if he can survive (don't understand his purpose tho, does Ainz benefit from his ult? Or is it for Prince? Or does he have any ability i'm not aware of?)
Thx worked!!! Somehow (I did have Orthros just didn't know)
Mortas is there mostly for the increased attack from his ult I believe. And yeah that random orthros can sometimes come in handy ^^
Any ideas? Falling flat against this team pretty badly
Taken from afkhelper, has only heroes you also have, so it should work eventually. (No idea how RNG this is gonna be)
Thanks, I should have double checked there. I looked last night but missed that one. I'm totally fine with heavy rng
Oooo that might be me.
any ideas? i can also use a merc, tried alna and luc so far
Took all of three tries to work. Thanks again. Not a specific lineup I've used before
Aight 5pull don't work and every afkhelper lineup uses +20 Pippa which I don't have rn, ainz comp is for the other flora team this stage, what do other than wait to get my Pippa +20
Help pls, nara and oden are destroying my lucretia
How to beat thoxines comps ? (the other is my defense team but also my attack team)
been stuck here for the past two days now, anyone got any help?
Gwineth should be in the middle back so she can hit all enemy backline
she hits all enemy backline regardless
Help I'm having an issue with this stage where thoran survives too long
he starts casting his ult when only skreg is on him.
Remove some calls so he doesn't gain energy as fast, or manually delay him starting to cast
Hey fellas and gals, I just got to 31-4, so I need to use two teams, could you please help me set like a “base comp”? Im not really sure who I’d use in my second team or how this works
u can try things like a GB team daimon grez fera thoran and opt in the 5.gwyn rosa rowan with merlin and leo or something like that. u can try some shit often its just peel daimon/gwyn long enough that they kill everything^^ and use the link above me to check some specific stages
I have been trying this stage for so long, and closest I got was a 1v1 daimon vs kaz and lost to time. No clue what to do
try thesku
put him backline see if he survives long enough to ult
i assume ur raku instantly dies to the assasian so maybe switch him out for this one
For now the second teams are gonna be easy as shit so right now you're fine rolling with your main comp and filling in the blanks, but in the meanwhile look at meta comps like Alna GB, ainz, luc cheese, thoran cheese, raku charm comps etc. And see what you can build without much trouble
At this point you should think about stargazing luc/alna and garrisoning for ainz/albedo for starters
Been stuck, any ideas?
Ainz swap with daimon and then daimon swap with lyca is what I’d do
No dice so far but I’ll keep rolling, seems more promising
shit just doesnt work and i wanna cry :((((
Wukong and hogan are my front line rn. Who’s should be my backline? Also I don’t know when to switch to mirael carry
You switch to mirael carry once you need to have champions passed LV 100 cause wukong is terrible post 100
Anyone have a non-thoran suggestion for 37-20-1? Every clear I see uses Thoran but I'm overleveled and it doesn't work for shit
Timestamps:
0:00 - Set 1 (Alna Grez Daimon)
0:39 - Set 2 (Oden Tasi Ezio Lyca Gorvo)
1:25 - Set 3 (Charmizard)
2:14 - Set 4 (Ainz)
2:59 - Set 5 (Lucretia 5 pull)
any suggestions?
take out Mirael and add Lyca, and you can play with the position of daimon from there
@misty solar reset Wu Kong, get Daimon to Lv.100
Thank you, I will do that
then try Daimon Rosa frontline with Rosa following Daimon
Arden Silas Lyca backline
if that doesn't work, Silas Nara Lyca backline
remember best gear should go on carry > tank > supports, in this case Daimon gets best gear
Got it, I will also try to run them repeatedly for RNG. Thanks so much!!
Finally it did the trick. I used Silas Nara Lyca so I wont have to reset and level Arden
nice. in my guide i do mention Daimon is the best carry, so once u got that Daimon u should've switched carry
Yea it totally slipped my mind I dont know why I have Wu Kong and Daimon in the front line at the back of my head
I've read it like more than 5x yet it slipped XD
so, pretty much everyone in afk helper use that team but im trying for something like 6 hours and thoran seems to strugles a lot with damage and 90% of the time he cant even ult, its a super heavy rng stage or i'm doing something wrong?
Any ideas?
Could try Brutus Grezhul oden Luc Rowan
Brutus won’t steal Rowan pots, Brutus and Rowan should be linked by lorsan
Strongly invested Grezhul should tank solise a bit
still up2date :)
Help pls (don’t judge my account i’ve done too much shit on it :,))
Only thing I can think of is:
-Make sure your fort branch is at least 37 since I don't see clears without at least that.
-Maybe try switching between eye and blade for thoran, the accuracy might help more sometimes
-Make sure your gear is fine and you don't use t3 of pr/Mr gear (I assume you know that since you're this far thought)
yeah, branch is 37 and the gear is fine, i'll try blade, lets see if it helps. Thanks 😄
Might just be RNG, thoran is rough sometimes 😔
yeah, blade worked, thanks!!
Sry for late response. With rng I think it’s gonna work thanks!
I come very close but wukong usually is last alive and wins
@faint current team worked thank you
Glad to help!
Awesome 
I have been throwing RNG at this one for a couple hours without much luck. Any alternate ideas to tackle it?
Rowan instead of Nara
luc or thoran arent cutting it any ideas?
My front line is wukong, hogan. Who should I put as my backline?
Arden, Silvinia, and maybe Ferael.
Help please
I can’t seem to progress past 10-16 any help using heroes I have so far?
Using thoran daimon rosaline ferael and desira
help pls
put mirael back middle and morrow opposite arden
@silk ibex
Rowan Golus
Arden mirael silvina
@gray gull
Spam on graveborn pull daimon fera thoran grezz is a must
@eager kelp
Arthur thoran
Daimon fera nara
@cloud forge
Brutus thoran
Daimon gassman/rowan ferael
@stable ember it depends on fera fear.. try
Thoran brutus
Daimon fera lyca
Or
Rowan brutus
Daimon(energy art) nara ferael
Is there an ainz lineup I can make yet, or do I need albedo
Or what else do I need
Can I get some help on this please
Starting to get to the part of the game where you need more than one team. Any suggestions for 2nd team?
Any ideas?
Can someone help me make a team my current team is the top 5 in the red circle I’m not sure if it’s good so could someone help
@south hedge Why aren't you using Resonating Crystal?
Your healer's also the highest level for some reason instead of your carry
Any help with this?
My what? I’m still kinda new to this game I downloaded it a while ago and then quit and now I’m back into it
Any help with this?
There are a few pinned guides in #classic-questions, follow that, cause I'm sad to say you pretty much did everything wrong lol
Bump
@alpine gazelle try it with rowan, brutus, fera, daimon, grez. Give rowan chalice and daimon call
Or any advice I'm stuck at 11-12
From what I can see there, I would put daimon behind the brutus and swap either nara or ainz for Oden. You want daimon to have the stall to set up
lyca makes ferael to use accursed
Holy hell artifact made a difference. Thank you so much. That formation exactly didn't get me the win but I modified it a bit
Should i swap someone for twins?
try using arden instead of skriath
Reset one of the heroes stuck at lvl 100 at the rickety cart for 20 diamonds and level your mirael.
You should ascend a fodder hero from each faction to Legendary+ and level them to lvl 160
Any recommendation on who to reset?
Tasi Thoran or Silas.
It literally doesn’t matter which one since you can just put them on an empty resonating crystal slot if you still want to use them and they’ll be lvl 100 instantly
Just make sure you keep 5 heroes manually leveled
I had to use Lucretia from merc to do it
Couldn't do it otherwise.
Have tried many different combinations and yet even with full health in arcane labyrinth, yet none will defeat these two, I have managed to kill off the rest of their team
This is my normal team I use
Merc an ainz
Put Rowan in the middle and remove safria idk how to spell
Help please I can clear one of them using a ainz comp
made calls and is ready to assemble a team (I really wanted talen or lukretsa, but the flora fell ()
So it’s really hard for me to give advice on what heroes to use because a lot of meta heroes you have are below a good investment.
I’d recommend grabbing +10 Ferael, +30 Rowan, +30 Lucretia as priorities.
If you are able to beat 1 of the stages can you screenshot what you use? We can then make a second team out of the rest
If you can beat the first stage with Ainz and save Rowan and Grezhul for that second one, in those frontline positions just the way you’ve got them there, I think that’ll make things much easier.
It might seem weird but Brutus is one of the best frontliners even at E.
That’s perfect. Ok one second
Ok for the second round, you can try Daimon, Oden, Lyca backline
Instead of Oden or Lyca you could try Prince of Persia also, as he’s pretty heavily invested and generally a great hero overall
Usually pop is the last one alive
This team is the best I have got so far
Ayyyy I beat it
Nice!
Any ideas on this one? Idk how to use thoran so any tips would help
Swap Safiya and Lucius position
Lucious?
I mean now she dies by whip
try eye
Now she doesn’t ult
How do I beat this
Who should I put to resonating crystal to push towers?
I can't push further from 110+ with that team in RC :(
use your ainz
This one is getting annoying. Any tweak ideas?
Rowan, Brutus, Daimon, Ferael, Nara
Nara/athalia/silvina mehira. Your lucretia is literally dying from bats
Any ideas? Or do I just need to wait for ascensions :/
This is my best team for it so far btw. Numisu actually protects Silas from being targeted by silv BC of his lower defense.
The only problem as always is vedan
(Forgot to add image)
Managed to RNG it
(Oh and before anyone says anything, daimon dies faster whenever I put him in the back)
If you put him behind brutus he shouldn’t die that fast
Any tips to beat this?
Don’t remember what I did for that one but you should probably put daimon in RC
Alrighty thanks
Thanks for the help I just passed it
Nice! The beginners guide is p helpful if you haven’t checked it yet
I'll have a look at it
Also I switched daimon from middle to RC and was able to beat 10-27
I'm stumped ....
Oh, by RC I mean Resonating Crystal
Oh ik I just used it instead of saying right corner 😅
Any help? Tried everything I can think of
Help
I can kill one of the teams with my ainz comp
is this a good team - ? (sorry i didn't see this chat b4)
Looks decent for a beginner I suppose
i am a beginner- only chap7 lmao-
Any suggestions on who i should si30? All of my dimensional except for arthur and prince og persia are si30.
My unprofessional opinion is luc
merlin to +30 but not 9f kinda defeats the purpose, @keen bluff is right, luc to +30 is the best choice. I'd advise you to look up some guides, cause your teams aren't exactly on par with the meta
Thank you! A few dozen rng runs got past it
Any advice for 10-36, or am I just going to have to wait until I have enough ascensions
who does silvina go for?
Silas. In previous stages in the chapter I used numisu to take the attention off silas. I’d swap nara and Silas but
- Saveas is also extremely dangerous in my experience
- Silas can’t really consistently set up his heals when he’s not directly behind the frontline
try arden instead of tasi
Thanks, it worked! With
Silas
Daimon
Nara
Brutus
Arden
yay!
Now I’m on 10-40 and I think it would be REALLY great if lilith just removes vedan from all pve stages. Like I would unironically loooove that
well I think he's gone after chapter 33
(coughs up blood) only 23 chapters to go then
and then you'll have flora to face in campaign, basically vedan but 1000000 times worse
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOO
VEDAN I HATE YOU I HOPE YOU UN-DIE AND THEN ACTUALLY PERMANENTLY DIE
silas
thoran
nara
brutus
daimon
Don’t have thoran yet :(
put in golus for faction bonus
Still getting crushed, might just have to wait until I can ascend my rc heroes ig
ascensions don't matter especially if its daimon, try taking out golus for raku
The painful part is I just need 1 more level on daimon for that stitchy healing thing but he’d only be L then
And I don’t have enough fodder heroes to get them to L+ and increase the RC level
You should have enough fodder to ascend Mirael or Silvina to at least Legendary without eating Hogan, don’t you?
Yeah, but everyone says not to ascend even fodder to just L without being able to do L+
(Plus my only light bearer fodder I can fodder into mirael is more mirael. I can probably ascend Silvina though)
well, some exceptions for fodder heroes, but it's not too much of an issue
👍👍I’ll hold back on ascending mirael since I obviously don’t want to get rid of her fodderable copies but I can ascend silv
do that. then get daimon to mythic asap and unlock his sig
then get closer
Easier said than done man
I think you unlock a hero choice chest after completing chap 13 or something
So I just need to pull 1 more daimon and then hold out until chapter 13 for that chest? (At the very least. Assuming I don’t miraculously pull 2 daimons)
you can check which chapter you get it in, in your bag there should a fancy red chest near the top, click on it
12 I think. The wording made me worry this would be random (since its not called a choice or variety chest, and says “open to acquire any”, not “open and choose”)
no you can choose, it's basically a button, everyone got one of these back when they were introduced
as for the last copy you get faction scrolls from clearing chapters and peaks of time/voyages so just pray for a daimon and always use the faction scrolls on gb. I've managed to go from 0 daimons to a m+ daimon in a week on an alt so....
Yeah, I’m on the vedan PoT but the enemy power hike is too much for me to actually go through atm (even the earliest/weakest fights)
they take time. Do you have a merc?
Have a couple. Used one not realizing you could only use ONE merc for battles for a full week. Since the info tab says it as if it’s limited to each specific merc
So that caused me pain when I realized I couldn’t use the ainz i merced But never got to use
I mean for PoT
Can you use them throughout PoT or is it just one use and they’re gone? (Or do you mean the ones you can pick up throughout PoT)
I mean mercs from friends. Like lab, you can use them until they die in battle
And if I reset the PoT for any reason, that doesn’t count against their use limit?
nope
Thank you😭
np! you can also add me if you want(no space for now, but I'll clear some tomorrow): ID: 64348675
Thanks!! I’ll go do that
@keen bluff
2nd team
Grezz thoran
Daimon rowan fera
Doesn't feel like I'm making a dent into this one mostly with the burst mage damage
stuck on 19-12
just started out, now in chap8, was wondering should i restart, or this is fine? If yes who should i raise
@pale kettle RNG
Aside from the two gifted copies I literally happened to pull 6 of her just from pulling Graveborns at every opportunity
But I was told that Shemira doesn't scale nearly as well as other Heroes
Daimon isn't cutting it anymore
He gets one shot by current campaign enemies, Lv120 from RC isn't cutting it. I'll have to level my fodders to get him to 160 eventually then see where to go from there
If I got 2 more copies I can immediately get him up to Mythic
He has the best gear I can give him and he's still not dealing much damage
I don't have Brutus unfortunately
@pale kettle With your suggested comp, Silvina one-shots Oden, moves onto Rowan and soon after Mirael loses a 1v5
Can you show the rest of your box?
Can you try with rowan, brutus, pop, fera, daimon. Retry if fera dies from athalia dive.
Give rowan chalice, and daimon call
FERA will always die to Athalia dive 😦
That's sad. Switch brutus in his position then and let him keep athalia busy. Question now is who to tank against enemy brutus. Myb arthur or thoran
Athalia ult wipes us
Ezizh disables them
I mean they can ult once if I’m lucky before ezizh disables them
What arti on pop? Call?
I'm not sure what I did, but gz anyway 
Any tips here or am I just too far behind and will just wait it out.
afk helper not helping?
Current comp is mirael hogan Arden. I need to fill up two more spots. I’m thinking one of them would be rosaline since I have mirael carry
she won't carry much longer, get a daimon. For the 5th spot you can swap between lyca, fereal, thoran, and silas depending on the enemy
Guys i re started playing afk arena after a couple of years so idk much about new characters. This is the box i have after around 8/9 multi, should i consider resetting or keep it?
in #classic-questions, sort out your wishlist and stuff
putting gwyn in frontline?
Need help to do new KT lineup...
I tried to do this thing when you have 3 faction in formation
and you coudn't have anyone else frontline.......is afk helper not helping?
Afk helper?
try daimon and lyca instead of saurus and gwyn. faction bonuses don't matter much if the team you're using has no synergy
Thanks
Best line up I can make?
@cerulean nimbus put gwyn middle, remove tasi, put rowen where daimon was and daimon where tasi was. Lmk how that goes
Any advice? My current lineup is Wukong + Daimon, with Rowan, Mirael, and Roasaline
Sorry to Jump in like that before the other person, but really need help. Am I on the right path here leveling up gwyn? Any suggestions?
Nooooo! only level up 5 at a time!
Funny as it may sound, never occured to me 😅 as to level up the other in the crystal?
Just googled the best carries and improvised the rest, got me to stage 11 so far 😅
Hey man you might wanna consider checking out the beginner guide in #classic-questions . you can find it in the channel pins
Thanks it did.
Only lvl up the crystal ppl.
Understood, ty
this level bs help
for your level yes, but lucius and shemira late game become doodoo
Doodoo as in bad or good?
bad
absolute shit
but Lucius carries until like chapter 28
yea
@rocky frost neither shemira or lucius are good, never build them, they drop off before chap 20
Oh
Im confused
you're asking things that are asked by beginners every single day, so to save people the hassle, guides are in the pins of #classic-questions
Ok
wish I had not messed up bad early game but I’m still doing ok at 35-60
at what deficit? 35-60 after the nerfs shouldn't even be considered endgame
my heroes are 366
should be at the end of chap 36 or start of 37
should be could be would be, I wasted the first 25 chapters on useless heroes lol
never looked up anything bc I played so on and off
yeah...reading guides is important
So i cant find any guides
hello
Im stuck on 4-6
you say that without posting the stage....there are probably more than 2000 stages in afk arena....please post the stage if you want help
i said 4-6
I love how you assume I know the enemy formation
If you post the picture of what you are facing, such as the other formation, it will save everyone some trouble trying to find it
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@midnight bronze @dull flame
putting a mage frontline.....
tidus
wu kong
mereal
lucius
daimon
ok
Best lineup for these guys?
i died
Ur fine
I mean complete the tutorial 🙃
Rng isn't cutting it at the moment. Ideas?
Maybe you could try ainz it?
Or you could try to swap Brutus and Lyca maybe you could try putting thoran for stalling purposes somewhere m?
afk helper not helping?
your good
Nope, tried though. There is one that matches my usual lineup but haven't made it close to clearing with it either
show me that lineup
This one: https://afkhelper.nax.is/images/chapters/29-20_1630333284.webp Only difference is my daimon being 1* but that isn't a huge deal edit: I'm blind, lyca is also ascended where mine isn't but yeah
Any better teams I can make stuck at 11-12 atm
Going back to thoran over Brutus (or using both) did the trick. Thanks
Try not to make heroes L without being able to make them L+, waste of resources.
I would try lucius/lyca/oden/daimon/nemora
try fereal no weapon
finally got stumped in the mauler tower, any help or do i just have to wait to be higher level?
You can always try to mercs, merc someone like a good Kren.
i'll try that, thanks!
Not epic
Trying to push 350 tonight. What do y'all think besides more rng?
any help would be appreciated!!
Garen (maybe try brutus if you have a copy of him) thoran tasi eironn/nara daimon.
Thoran brutus daimon eironn ferael is one comp that worked on afk helper
any tips for this? i copied this lineup from afk helper but I'm already at 700 retries with no luck. just keep trying or change something up?
Is the investment of your heroes the same as theirs?
Ive tried this comp multiple times in various variations but no luck, any tips for this?
@tepid current I'm not sure then
Need help :0
heyyyyy you're exactly one chap behind me. You have 5* call right?
afk helper not helping?
yes i do
this person got it with the 3 thoran team. Only problem is I can't see his positioning. See if you can get it with call on kelthur and thoran, and warden on lorsan
I saw that as well and I figured it had to be better with 5 lol
Maybe I'll try it out
usually 3 thoran rng is much less than 5
Is there any way I can do 37-8 ?
if you send the enemy team, maybe
can merc anyone.
afk helper not helping?
Merc a big fat Antandra or Kren
I mean 309 E30+
there is none
hell yeah 29130433
29130433 here is my code
Done
got it and applied, tyvm 
Need help strategising
I win team 1-4 with this setup but can't win team 5
Lucretia needs Raku else she can't win right now
Any suggestions what I can do?
Izold cheese doesn't work anywhere as far as I know which makes this hard
Sadly no ss from the other teams
help would be appreciated ❤️
Do you mainly use 5-pull to run through ch 32 and 33? 
Or raku charm?
Any advice?
Hey guys I currently have these characters any recommendations on who I should roll for in my monthly desired hero?
That depends on what extra you have, ideally one you have 7 copies of
Help for 11-24?
Put brutus in front of Daimon, could also swap in Nara to pull Mirael and stall her abilities briefly
still die, guess ill wait for daimon or others to get better
Brutus, Tasi, Nara, Mirael, Daimon
Tasi in front??
Tasi is used front sometimes yes
even faster tpk than last time, guess i just need to wait
Swap positions and the end its rng
did that lmao
Any suggestions ?thanks
Everyone’s getting WIPED
need help thanks
which ones lyca?
dont believe i have lyca
yeah i dont got her
Ahh, I would recommend trying to get her at some point, she's an incredibly important and useful support
build daimon btw.
switch out lyca for fereal
hey does anyone know if this lineup is good enough? if not what hero’s should I upgrade/resonate?
in #classic-questions . Short answer, no it is not, it's a terrible team, no dps, terrible choice of tanks
I’m on chapter 13 stage 23 what hero’s should I use?
can you please follow my instructions and read the pins in #classic-questions ? There are too many new players who don't bother taking the initiative to look up guides or keep up with the news, so the guides have been gathered in the pins of the #classic-questions channel
Who should I use?
alas we won,
make rosa follow oden
ayyyyy good
Just that?
well seeing you don't have a daimon
any idea on how on earth to tackle this?
uh show full heroes
i do, lvl 140
daimon
brutus
silas
thoran
oden
kk gonna try
remember to focus on building daimon!
daimon
brutus
silas
shem
rosa
okay! ill upd u
suprisingly it worked
didnt expect that tbf
didnt work
hmm retry a lot, this stage is super rng heavy
aaa kk, bye need to waste my time xd
lol, I'm retrying for 37-40 as well
rip
and mind you, it's 5 teams I have to beat to clear 37-40
fr?
but this early shet is pretty though, u need high L but the drops are rng
yep, you can look it up on youtube when you have time, 2 teams start at 31-4, 3 teams at 33-4, 4 teams at 35-4, 5 teams at 36-4
thats gonna be really hard
not rlly, new players have it easy now, campaigns been nerfed many times, before it was 2 teams at 31-4, 3 teams at 31-60, 4 teams at 33-4, 5 teams at 33-32
@dull flame omg no i losed to time fkkk
oh
haha getting there
Leofric saves my Silas which saves my whole team
but the frickin time
@dull flame leofric carry lol
ayyyyyyyy! leofric pog
yupp hehe
Any advice for this? Over 1000 retries with no luck
I can say with 99% certainty you wont be able to cheese this, just because lorsan cant link skreg
Isn't he linking antandra with safiya
Skreg have dmg reduction. Thoran aint gonna kill no matter what unless he is linked
I copied directly from this
Huh, color me surprised. So it indeed is possible
Well, now another problem arises. You do not know what is happening in that picture, what arti, what gear, when thoran should ult.
That is true, that's why I'm asking for help.
I have 5 star call on everyone so I assume the arti is correct. And I have the standard thorna gear. I don't think u have to play it manually tho
I imagine it's possible 5 star eye is required but im not sure if ppl normally have both 5 star eye and call in ch36
I dont have both
. Im sorry but i forgot what i used on that stage tbh
Only clear i have is 44 and above
Still stuck on this one. Any suggestions to what I can merc to get past it? I tried eironn without much luck
I mean, you can 5pull cheese it if u want. Or you can try cheesing without 5pull
Just ainz is much easier than cheesing this tbh
need ainz for another stage
or more accurately, i need to use thoran to clear a stage so if something else is cheeseable i could do that
no queen 😦
Tbf, u can just lucretia pull that
no luc either
I'm also nt sure my eironn is invested enough to carry like that, only 203 but i'll try
5* call should make it rlly easy
i have 5 star call
ayo athalia and nara sucks
Hihi guys, I'm hardstuck on a stage I shouldn't be with my current hero box and RC level. Chapter 38-20, RC 555.
If anyone can help me come up with a lineup for this level it would be very appreciated and I'm sure I can compensate in some way.
Help Por favor
Is it possible to beat this with my lineup or should I just afk and level up
Can I get some help please my team just gets shredded
Is there something that we can change to improve the damage?
replace hodgkin with rowan
how to beat stage?
Sorry for late response, I used mainly 5 pull. But it didn’t always work. Raku charm worked sometimes, and sometimes I had to build specific teams for certain battles
Been trying this one all morning. Any suggestions including something else to merc for it? Afkhelper hasn't given me any new ideas
Any suggestions ?
@shell ermine try it vedan, brutus, saf, rosa, shem. Rosa to follow shem. Give shem the blade
the blade?
Dura's blade. Or myb call. Not sure which artifacts you got
artifact
I think blade hasn't been unlockeed yet
My bad
call on shem, eye on rosa probably
@pale kettle do you want to use that luc merc? Or are you in the mood for some trial and error? Can prolly run a charm comp there with daimon
*cries in one boss per week *
lemme check
hehe macros the sht out of chap 37 😆
@pale kettle try dis
Thank u
I only play in my phone. Also, that is an ezizh. You want to thoran it? 
I'm stupid. Yeah I'm playing on phone too, you can get an auto clicker. It's retrying 37-40 for me
Where can i have equipement for celestial heroes btw
daily loot rewards, guildshop
reset scroll
Oops i meant cosmic*
Equipment for cosmic heroes
tf is cosmic hero?
yeah, that's dimensional heroes
Hehe
guildshop only
Oki
Any suggestions ?
afk helper not helping?
Nooo:((
Maybe Brutus, Rowan, Nara, Ferael, Daimon
Yesss thank u
Welcome
And suggest that can help
afk helper not helping?
Whats that
Struggling with KT floor 99. I have an RC spot open, what should I use for my lineup?
read the pins in #classic-questions
just use daimon with support
I’ve only got one copy of him, and I can push Mirael to 120 as carry. Is that not better?
you can use mereal, but put daimon in as well, please listen to my advice and read the guide that is in the pins of #classic-questions
Alright, will do
stuck, any help would be much appreciated❤️
Shieet I’m also stuck on 99 the 2 Brutus wrecks my team
Nvm just barely beat it with this. Shemira on 1hp
Ooh, thanks, I’ll try a similar lineup once my RC hits 100
do u have brutus?
If you do try this:
Daimon
Rowan
Tasi
Brutus
Lyca
I’m stuck pls help
@pale kettle maybe switch Silas out because he gonna be useless there
Help for 11-33?
Help
What team should I use?
Haven't had any luck with afkhelper teams tonight. Any ideas, and/or what I can merc for it?
It weird that u have such good heroes but are only stage 180
Oh nvm that’s graveborn one 🤦♀️🤦♀️
Haha yeah. I'm on 362 regular
just merc an izold. ezizh is annoying for daimon and since u dont have your own grezhul. izold is much better for a merc
Ty!
@gaunt dragon try it with rowan instead of talene, and fera instead of saf. Put luc in position 5
pls help
any help ill take
I can’t really see all your heroes but lucius thoran mirael rosaline daimon. Or maybe thoran daimon mirael kaz eironn. You should stop ascending so many heroes to legendary
Brutus thoran daimon eironn lyca
why dont u use rowan?
he is really good lol
I do. I couldn’t beat the the level with him on and had to play around
Test
Hey please help me with this lineup... Flora is too strong for me i don't know what to do... Consider that i can merc any hero to help...
Use Ainz comp or Alna GB
I'll try alna, ainz will be impossible cause i don't have arthur, albedo and him
I’ve tried every afk helper line up they had and nothing is working
@cerulean atlas Try this
Sweet! Thank you!
help me dealing with these annoying mfers cant even do mehira raku because of silvina and nara
Aight lads afkhelper says this lineup should work but it ain't, been waiting forever to finish this stage
oh actually i havent tried removing his furn to mak ehim have less defense hmmmmmm
ye nah still not working
Dont cheese this stage. It's horrible, just cheese r4
I cant get past this stage. I already triee using Morrow
teh thing with that is my raku team can only beat team 4
U have fodder for Daimon ?
Nope :( I've been trying to get him to mythic
Well, i cant exactly say anything can i lol https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/804258800639016965/901702234016972830/PSX_20211024_132225.jpg
Try to put eye on flora. Iirc she needs to be over fawkes at thoran 1st ult so that he wont ve healed by talene
Also try removing his gear to prevent her from leaving fawkes area
Maybe Brutus, Rowan, Ferael, Nara, Daimon
lmao i have hope for this because of your afkhelper upload
And yeah, remove his large furn
Wut, i dint upload any iirc
im literally looking at you, Q, on afkhelper rn lol
Returning player looking for some formation tips

Dont follow me. That stage's clear is cursed

I intentionally made that clear 
oh that stage was cursed a bit
Yeah I also for some reason haven't gotten thoran cheese to work on fight 4 either 
get a macro
how to beat this levels can be shifted
don't put eironn frontline...
You are only like a few days in and seems like a very large portion of your heroes are non meta. I would personally advice you to start on a fresh server because your current one has outpaced you after you quit playing.
prior to this i hadnt been but it wasnt working so i tried switching him with mirael as with him on back n hogan on front didnt work.
make eironn pull saveas
Can I get some help on this please
how to the win
your expecting ainz to work with 0 supports
hahaha you're right, who would be best
safyia instead of mereal maybe
no one, cause your ainz team is terribly built, but neither is your daimon
you got any advice then?
build daimon, garrison albedo
can it work with L+ or do i need mythic
mythic where you're at now
awesome thank you, how can I get more copies tho I can't make any progression
I'd probably go for daimon/brutus/lyca/rowan/some other cc
select summons show me your wishlist
why is shem still there?
oh damm yea
if you want to get better at the game, you have to constantly update your mindset
read the guides in #classic-questions pins
any help?
daimon
brutus
silas
silvina
arden
closest i've gotten so far, thanks! might need a combo of more levels + just rng in general
but this setup's worked the best so far so thanks again
np
Give it up for 11-34 everyone
that's ez tbf
not when you get tpk within 5 seconds 
You have it easy
WHAT
I'm expecting you to be here in a year
the first rpg i ever played was pokemon diamond and to this day i'm still amazed whenever I see levels over 100
Any ideas on a team?
I’m pretty new to the game/genre but could anyone give me some comp advice? Got to 11-39 with kelthur/Lucius/rosaline shield spam. Got lucky with a lot of duplicates for kelthur and thorin which is why I upgraded them before getting more fodder up
It feels like every fight is fishing for insane rng but I think I’m at a wall until I get more levels
@coral oyster Try replacing Mishka with Diamon. And put Silas in the middle instead of Morrow
@twilit turtle ok ill try it thx
This is kind of what my comp has been looking like. Been using mirael too
Morvus is probably your biggest enemy here. Got an E Nara? That comp you're using doesn't really have enough DPM (too much tank). I'd field Mehira and try to get her to survive.
I have Nara, no mehira
Nara making a big difference so far but I think I’m still too underleveled
Sorry I'm dumb, I meant Mirael not Mehira 
Oh ok lol. Funny enough that’s the comp I’m using rn. Feels close to clearing but the rng has to hit just right lol
Can somebody help me!!
reset your arden then levelup your 57 heroes to 60, so you can upgrade wukong until level 100.. you only need to level up 5 heroes
just wait your heroes still underpowered daimon still isnt strong enough
help thanks
Should I lvl up silvana
yes
any help would be appreciated 🙏🙏
Brutus tasi Frontline, Rowan daimon lyca back, maybe Rowan tasi daimon fereal lyca
yeah doesn't work
Can anyone help me with coming up with a comp for 38-20 r2? I overleveled so thoran doesn't work.
been on this for a little while, need some help
Ainz
Lyca/Brutus
oden
Brutus/lyca
Ferael
@pale kettle
Daimon does? Then swap ainz with daimon
