lineup-help

[vivid yarrow]

The thing is I always get close to beating the lvl

Do I need to swap someone out or?

[lament iron]

Hang on

Try putting lyca on the crystal and swapping her out for solise

[vivid yarrow]

Uh ok

Ok did

[lament iron]

Put lucius in front of grezhul

[vivid yarrow]

Mk

[lament iron]

and bring gweneyth to the far bottom

[vivid yarrow]

Ok

[lament iron]

did u try it

[vivid yarrow]

Hol up

Well

[lament iron]

Ah alright

[vivid yarrow]

Idk what I need to change

[lament iron]

this stage looks pretty difficult for ur team to beat.

[vivid yarrow]

Ikr

[lament iron]

i’d recommend getting a mercenary bcz it’s the last stage of a chapter

[vivid yarrow]

I do have some but I gotta wait 5 ####### days

[lament iron]

Another tip. don’t use ur mercs until the end of the week or unless ur progress is getting seriously hindered

[vivid yarrow]

E

[lament iron]

mayb try putting rowan instead of lucius.

[vivid yarrow]

Uh ok

[lament iron]

make sure ur entire team has the best gear possible

[vivid yarrow]

Ight

[old oar]

3 healers?!!!! I did like 60m damage but i still lost. Any ideas?

[high marlin]

Frontline rowan, he should be fine against Lucius

[old oar]

K

Its not that they do much damage. Its that they just heal

[high marlin]

You can swap out Ant for fereal or Eironn

[old oar]

Ill try

[pearl night]

Any tips ?

[high marlin]

You have to use nara to pull mehira

[pearl night]

Who should i replace her by ?

[high marlin]

Rosaline

[proven river]

Wouldnt it be better to put Arthur instead of Brutus ?

[digital pecan]

So I'm working on building a team but I can't quite figure out the best path to take.

[proven river]

Maybe Gwynith carry but i would wait for a daimon

[pale kettle]

Just level wukong to 100 and keep going until you get stuck

[sudden falcon]

Can’t seem to beat this stage

[faint current]

Swap Eironn out for brutus, then swap Brutus and Daimon positions

[sudden falcon]

ok

[faint current]

Daimon should not be put somewhere where he’ll take damage since he needs his weak shield active to deal damage

[sudden falcon]

alright

[faint current]

(This is from his signature item.)

I’d also consider maybe swapping out Nara for someone like Lyca. Nara is usually only used when interrupting a single really powerful enemy ability at the beginning of battle, such as Eironn pull or Mehira summoning bats.

[sudden falcon]

ok

[dense flower]

I know Rowan, Thoran and Eironn are very good but i'm not sure if anything else is worth leveling

[pale kettle]

i need to complete chapter 13 but shemira is the problem. Any tip?

[tight juniper]

Replacd rosa with nara how the fuck do you have an ascended shemira so fucking early

[leaden glacier]

Its possible tho i think you can get 4 shemira copies for free

[stable ember]

Getting stuck again on this one. Advice?

[midnight bronze]

Daimon

Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Nara
Might work but not sure

[candid breach]

Is anything good in here?

[stable ember]

Worth a try, ty for input

[delicate reef]

At first glance only eironn but you just started and eironn works pretty well early to mid as a carry

[pale kettle]

Hihi guys, I'm stuck on 38-8 r2. I have a low deficit and I think it's hurting my comp. Any suggestions here? I'm using the recommended comp and people are clearing it with RC 450 and my team gets insta-wiped.

[signal canopy]

Is the wrong hero eating taint? Looks like Talene is suppose to absorb it. Could move some gears around

[pale kettle]

How would I help Talene do that?

My talene is maxed with T3 gear, does she need to unequip? I don't see how the other heroes would out perform her.

[signal canopy]

Thoran's Taint skill hits the hero with the least amount of health so try to make that her. Unequip everything, even furniture if you have to. If you playback one 1x the animation for Taint is a small dark fireball like effect see who that hits

[pale kettle]

Ohhhh okay.

[warm maple]

Any help with this stage I feel like I shouldn't be stuck

[pale kettle]

Try, Thoran, Brutus, Daimon, Nara, Fera

[pale kettle]

Hello guys, What team could I do with Satrana? She is my first mythic character, sorry for my English

[old oar]

Any ideas?

[whole bramble]

@old oar why do u have so many L heroes

[old oar]

Idk

[balmy kestrel]

Any help here?

[nocturne bane]

@balmy kestrel eironn pos 4, brutus instead of lucius and prob safiya instead of belinda.

[balmy kestrel]

Hmm still getting wrecked

[limpid ridge]

Hello, could you help me, I'm stuck

[inland musk]

I need help again 😅

[supple birch]

Can someone help me with this stage I can't beat it

[old oar]

Any ideas

[distant plume]

I've been stuck on this one for a while now. I've seen players on afkhelper beat it with the same level of investment, but I'm guessing a large amount of rng. Tried merc'ing a better Raku as well but it didn't help

[autumn raven]

Having issues with the heal on this one. That and the lag. Suggestions?

[pale kettle]

we cant help you with lag

[novel sparrow]

i've hit a wall in the story and im not 100% sure what to do

[delicate reef]

Show your deck might be ways to help you

[novel sparrow]

this is all i have leveled so far

[delicate reef]

You can try thoran rowan FL , Daimon/rosa/lyca BL

[novel sparrow]

its not even close

[umbral thunder]

Just started playing about a couple of hours or so ago. I was looking up information that recommended to focus on a carry character initially. Are any of my current units considered an okay carry for early game?

[honest fern]

I just cant do it... Any help pls?

[ember raven]

Hey guys, new player here. Struggling to figure out what I should run around my daimon. Maybe Daimon isn't the play? Any tips? :)
https://i.imgur.com/eCk1ofU.png

[grand perch]

Hello @ember raven,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[limpid current]

is there a reason why some people say shemira is bad after certain stages? (rn im at stage 23 and shemira is a absolute tank and survivor if she can ult i can win the battle)

[reef oyster]

Hello, i just started Chapter 36 and now i have to use 5 teams to fight boss battles. Can someone suggest me how i can build 5 teams with the heroes i have? Thanks.

[delicate reef]

Because shemira doesn't scale as well as some of the "newer" released carries. i.e, Daimon

[delicate reef]

I'm assuming you're getting shredded by isabella ?

[novel sparrow]

yeah, her and grezhul are tearing my team to pieces

[ember raven]

@pale kettle Thanks :) Im not quite there where they get capped yet, but when im working on it :) For early game/mid game though, could you give me some tips on what would be an ideal composition to run?

I've been looking at compositions, but im kinda overwhelmed a little. Should I stick with daimon? https://i.imgur.com/Z3dGysa.png

Oki, thanks :)

[lament iron]

definitely. he’s easily the best carry in the game until mayb chapter 30. put him on ur wishlist and pray for more copies of him

Don’t over invest in any other heroes for now stick to ascending fodder heroes

[ember raven]

Thanks! I just feel like I need a brutus or something next to him :s

[lament iron]

Yep he goes great w brutus. brutus is only used for his roar and his invincibility so there’s no need to ascend him past E+. i’m chapter 28 and i still have him at E+

[delicate reef]

try swapping the positions of daimon and lyca of the mentioned team, then replace lyca with gwyneth.

[novel sparrow]

like this? still didnt work

[royal stag]

Any Nara or Eironn?
And can u make Rowan M ?

[novel sparrow]

this is all i have to work with

[royal stag]

Put Nara or Eironn in ur Crystal
And when u get 1 L+ LB fodder get Rowan M and get his si up to +30

And put Brutus in ur Crystal

[novel sparrow]

aint no way im unlocking that many crystal slots in just a few days, so who should i take out and replace?

[royal stag]

Lucius, Orthros and Silvina

[novel sparrow]

got it, thank you

i'll try this stage again in 24 hours then lol

[candid summit]

Looking for suggestions 9-40

[south pier]

how do i get thru 14-39 im stuck there

[empty pulsar]

@candid summit you've built a lot of heroes to L, I would suggest reading the pins due to all the fodder you've wasted so far. Make sure your carry is your highest level.

[dapper portal]

I'm a newbie need suggestion on characters to build and team set up

[spice aspen]

Focus on Daimon/Rowan/Fareal

If you want a carry a good carry Daimon/Ainz/Lukretzia

[urban swallow]

These are the heroes i have, what should i use?

[limpid ridge]

Anyone could help me I'm stuck here TwT

[spice aspen]

Go in and make a screenshot of the formation you are fighting.

[limpid ridge]

I try many possibilities but idk how to pass this

[spice aspen]

Swap rowan with daimon and make rosa follow daimon.

Rowan can be tank after a certain level(I can't remember which)

[limpid ridge]

It doesn't work 😕 😅

[spice aspen]

something else you can try is to swap belinda with shemira and have roslin follow shemira for a quick double ult.

They do have a lyca so you might need to bring yours too for the early haste.

[limpid ridge]

Let's go try another time so 👍

[spice aspen]

you passed?

[limpid ridge]

Nope

I'm stuck here since two days, so I ask here, sorry if I am annoying

[spice aspen]

no worries.

[limpid ridge]

Do you have other ideas ?

[spice aspen]

Move rowan and daimon on the bottom

change belinda with lyca for extra haste.

[limpid ridge]

Instead of who ?

[spice aspen]

try like that.

[limpid ridge]

Already try

It fails 😕

[spice aspen]

change shemira with lyca.

[midnight bronze]

Try
Nara

Daimon
Rowan
Brutus/ Estrilda
Lyca

[limpid ridge]

Let's go try

[limpid ridge]

Doesn't working

[spice aspen]

you should test the formation multiple times

[midnight bronze]

Just keep trying

[spice aspen]

the RNG is still a thing

[limpid ridge]

Yeah I know
It's my 4th attempt now

[spice aspen]

some people try 1000 some stages xD

[midnight bronze]

That's late late chapters

[spice aspen]

you'll see when you are late game

[limpid ridge]

RNG is fun kids

[spice aspen]

ik maze, been playing this game for awhile.

[limpid ridge]

It seems to just not working 😕

Lyca is just try to made me mad

Others ideas ? @spice aspen

[spice aspen]

not really.

[limpid ridge]

Ok no problems, thanks for help ^^

[latent quail]

Hey.

Im looking for some advice on my current situation, if this is the correct place.

Ive had a discussion with a group of friends concering what to build.
Ive been googling around a bit, and came across numerous Thoran cheese setups. However most of my friends recommend aiming to build up Daimon/ferael instead.

In the long run would it be best to aim for Thoran now, (eg buy thoran from lab/chests etc) or would it be best to aim for another build and work toward getting daimon and ferael instead, And focus on getting Dimensionals?

This is my current pool. @11-28
Soon getting my frist mythic graveborn.

[spice aspen]

you'are welcome

Build daimon, Thoran is a lot of RNG.

[midnight bronze]

Thoran won't be very good until later chapters, daimon, Rowan, fereal, oden are good to build for you to build

[spice aspen]

or you can be insane and go full Lukretzia xD

[midnight bronze]

You can use thoran as a tank early game but that won't be his purpose later

[limpid ridge]

If anyone want to help me more I still open to be further on the game ^^

[midnight bronze]

Stuff your levels into daimon

[latent quail]

Alright. Makes sense. Would you recommend waiting for a couple more copies of damon and get him to mythic before ferael? Seems like he needs some time to shine

[limpid ridge]

HOw ?

[spice aspen]

Farael is a good cc but not really a damage dealer.

You need a damage dealer to push chapters.

Damon can carry you till late chapters if you invest on him.

[midnight bronze]

Just level up daimon more

[limpid ridge]

She is already at max level

[old oar]

Any ideas?

[latent quail]

Alright. Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated

[midnight bronze]

Just wait for the fodder to get him M+

[midnight bronze]

Could replace eironn with Lorsan, that's what I do to kill the ezizh and numisu

Hope your Antandra can tank the safiya burst

Can also replace Rowan and Brutus so Brutus can stall the athalia

[amber ledge]

Any help pls 😁

[royal stag]

Reset Ogi and put all lvls in Arden

[amber ledge]

Why ogi 😢

Oh well

[royal stag]

Read the pinned guide in #classic-questions

[amber ledge]

Did it

Whats the smartest way to line up for it?

[royal stag]

Maybe Brutus, Lucius, Rowan, Mirael, Arden

[amber ledge]

Rowan
Brutus
Mirael
Lucius
Arden

?

[royal stag]

Correct

[hazy bronze]

Any ideas?

[amber ledge]

It worked, thanks

[royal stag]

Welcome

[urban swallow]

Can anyone help me decide which heroes should i use? These are all the ones i have

[royal stag]

Drop Wu kong from ur Crystal and put Rowan in
Make Mirael L+
Brutus, Ogi, Rowan, Mirael, Lyca

[forest rivet]

I'm severely lacking in good maulers + wilders I think-- I have a decent amount of wilders that I can't build thanks to the resonance crystal, but my only mauler I'm able to build on is Numisu (And he's my main healer)

[royal stag]

U have Raku and Kren ?

[forest rivet]

Nope :/
purely Elite-wise My maulers are brutus, numisu, skreg, antandra, golus, satrana, tidus, and anoki
And my wilders are ulmus, nemora, and tasi

[royal stag]

Chapter?

[forest rivet]

9 after being stuck on 8 for months. and I'm level 64 :/

The lack of wilders is really biting me in the ass bc of that one peaks of time thing

[royal stag]

Oh so really early

[forest rivet]

Really early but probably not for the reasons I should be

[royal stag]

U read the pinned guide in #classic-questions?

[forest rivet]

Reading it rn-- the "Beginner's Compendium" right?

[urban swallow]

Thanks

[royal stag]

There 2 guides

[forest rivet]

👍

[rose tundra]

5th time the charm how do i beat this

It took me 5 damn tries to post these cuz it didnt wanna post and had to crop a tiny tiny bit so its a “different photo” god the bot hated me

[pale kettle]

im stuck here, any help please?

[rose tundra]

If u can,merc an eironn, put it in place of rowan so in the middle and let it grab shem

Also do use lucius instead of brutus….why are u using an elite brutus when u have a leg+ lucius

Also personal suggestion to switch khasos with whatshername The legendary Fodder as she wont go past leg+ while he will

[forest rivet]

I JUST REALIZED I HAVE DAIMON NEVERMIND time to delevel and relevel

[clear juniper]

I had played before but I Uninstalled it and installed it again, for reasons, I don't remember much about this game ever since so can ya help me? I don't know much about team building and I feel it weak
(Don't mind the black square, I got DaVinci because temporary unit)

[mortal mural]

Does anyone have a wrizz and Soren team guide?

[wet dagger]

Could anyone help me with these, its been a few days, (afk helper had jothing i could do)

[forest rivet]

Any tips for 9-12?

[stable ember]

Any suggestions for tackling this one?

[candid flint]

@stable ember get rid of the isabella asap is all i have to say

[stable ember]

Yeah, that describes my life for the past couple days. Best chance I've had was using nara but I do have a lot of CC options to play with

[delicate kite]

Evening everyone

New to the game. Trying to find the best heroes to wokr on. Can anyone help?

[glass sleet]

Getting destroyed by that team, anyone got any tips? They just heal to full instantly after being damaged. It might be possible if Ainz and Daimon ultimate at the same time, but it just never happens

I can also borrow someone instead of Daimon

[rigid imp]

merc a sig +30 albedo, your ainz dmg will increase a lot

or just merc a 309 ainz straight away (with warden of the arcane artifact is better, windbinder is ok but ainz might not 1 shot enemy tho)

[glass sleet]

Thank you!

[raven fossil]

im stuck on stage 21-53

any tips? (thoran is infront of ainz i put him there by accident)

[limpid current]

just a thing i noticed dont make l if you cant make them l+

[limpid current]

this is what ive been using(with switching shemira possitions if she can ult i can win easy) might not work for most but it does for me and yeah weird setup but it works for now xD

[proven river]

Try
Gwynith
------Thoran
Rowan
------Albedo
Ainz

[raven fossil]

yeah... i realised that... i did that when i first started

[raven fossil]

aight

[limpid current]

also you using mythic trick? @raven fossil

[raven fossil]

no clue what that is lol

[proven river]

Would later focus on building some meta teams

[limpid current]

.... you have to use it bud it makes it so much easier @raven fossil https://afk.guide/mythic-gear-trick/

[limpid current]

1 of the teams im trying to go for is the thoran cheese

just focusing on 5 assended and then ill see from there

[raven fossil]

ah'

[drowsy gazelle]

Mythic trick aint worth shit until chap36 when u have unlocked all FoS, all discount, all arti and all MV except 1 rewards

Mythic tricking thqt early is literally stupid. Just push

[proven river]

Later you can get t2 gear and shit so hes right

[limpid current]

by using mythic trick and getting better gear it helped me push allot further then without

[raven fossil]

tbh it doesnt really matter for me atm, i got my ainz in 5 star mythic gear and my thoran in 3 star mythic gear lol

[drowsy gazelle]

Compared to T0/T1/T2 gear, T1/T2/T3 stones. I dont say its worth

[proven river]

Yea

Tier 3 gear is pretty good

[drowsy gazelle]

Plus all the other FoS, MV rewards as well as discount for guild store

[valid timber]

is the cheese for 37-12 supposed to be horribly rng or am i doing something wrong

[umbral thunder]

Second day playing, and I managed to get some more pulls in. I still have no idea what I'm doing...so I'm just progressing Campaign as much as possible. But not sure how to make a team.

I've read about it being 1 carry, 1 tank, and 3 support. I'm just not sure which is a good tank/carry and support. Pippa is classed as a damage dealer, but apparently she's a good support....so I'm kinda lost.

[distant plume]

Kind of a weird question. But I have some factions accounts where they're struggling to do much damage to wrizz and Soren. Does anyone know any viable options with only having to merc one hero. (is merc Saurus plus badly invested support still better)

[proven river]

Good carry would be daimon but you can also level Gwynith atm

But woul push with wu kong as far as possible

[rose tundra]

. Help

[umbral thunder]

For lineup...using this info here. How does Mirael carry if your tanks are just dying, and Mirael can't even get an ultimate skill off?

[warm maple]

Try this
Daimon
Rowan
Ferael
Brutus
Arden

[warm maple]

Borrow a Ainz doesn't matter if you have him the Merced one is gonna be better

[narrow plaza]

Which team shall I use?

Help please

[narrow plaza]

Which team shall I use

I’m 5-3

[lean pumice]

Shemira
Wukong
Rowan
Brutus
Isabella/Rosaline/Eironn

Pretty good team to begin with, and level them

[twin raft]

hey, anyone have any lineup idea without thoran f9 pls?

[lean pumice]

Same for me, impossible for me to get this cheese to work.
I've seen some ppl pass this stage in like 5 minutes and it can't work for me at all...

[novel sparrow]

been pretty stuck here for a while now, anyone got any tips?

available heroes

vedan is the one that really screws me over most of the time by the looks of it

[lean pumice]

you should try to put rosaline alongside gwyneth to max her dmg

[novel sparrow]

i've tried that and putting rosaline with lyca actually gave me better results for some reason, but this comp got me the furthest so far

[lean pumice]

didnt work either ?

[novel sparrow]

okay nvm it just randomly worked all of a sudden

[hard wind]

what can I do here to win this stage?

[old oar]

Im on that stage too lol

[warm maple]

Try using Luc but with Level 1 heroes if her sig item is +30

[old oar]

Im fucked

[warm maple]

How tf

[warm maple]

How are you so high of a chapter with level 240?

[old oar]

Idk

I have nothing too do in the day so i just grind and get lucky

[warm maple]

Ah

[hard wind]

tried this but she got melted way before she could ult

[warm maple]

Is her SI+30

[floral cargo]

I cant keep lucretia alive because of nara (im using lucretia cheese)

[hard wind]

yeah it’s 32, she just dies too fast

[floral cargo]

Do you have the shroud of verdure?

[old oar]

Ok i should ask this in question but is my hero’s bad for my level??

[warm maple]

Wdym?

[floral cargo]

No they’re good

[warm maple]

Your heroes are good for the stage your at

[old oar]

Ok. Ty

[floral cargo]

So can anyone help with this

[hard wind]

no

[floral cargo]

Ive tried every artifact

[lean pumice]

longbow lucretia with classic 5 pull comp ?

[floral cargo]

Dont have the longbow

[lean pumice]

or shroud ?

[floral cargo]

With shroud she kills everyone except mehira and nara then died cuz nara stuns her

[lean pumice]

idk maybe wait for lucretia ascended and at least 3/9

[floral cargo]

The thing is i need to complete towers to get stargazer cards to get lucretia to ascended xd

[lean pumice]

so it will prevent nara from ulting

ah yea xd

is lyca in at least ?

[floral cargo]

Lyca?

This is hypo tower

[lean pumice]

AH

yea sorry i didn't even see

[floral cargo]

Its okay

How it goes, all allies die except lucretia, she goes for safiya, kills her, then goes for skriath, sometimes kills him sometimes doesnt, then nara pulls her and she dies.

[dull flame]

Push Luc to ascended

[floral cargo]

.

[lean pumice]

have you tried every place for lucretia ?

[floral cargo]

Yep

Best place is the top backline, thats where she goes for safiya

[dull flame]

Are you close to power capped or anything?

You could try letting nara grab Luc actually

[floral cargo]

That kills her instantly

She doesnt even have time to activate Hellfire to kill nara while being stunned

[dull flame]

Shroud?

[floral cargo]

Breaks quickly

[dull flame]

Let nara grab zolrath

[floral cargo]

Okay hold on

[twin raft]

this is the only guy who has fallen the 38-55 without Thoran f9 but it doesnt work at all when i put this comp

[floral cargo]

He dies before even reaching nara

[dull flame]

Macro for hours?

[twin raft]

all night

[lean pumice]

i have the same problem as you in 37-56

[floral cargo]

Zolrath dies, nara pulls lucretia, lucretia dies

[lean pumice]

and it frustrates me xd

[twin raft]

Ive tried then with an other comp which doesnt work at all too xD

[dull flame]

Rip. Maybe wait for a merc

[twin raft]

T.T

[alpine gazelle]

Can't beat this boss stage. Please help. Tried multiple afkhelper variations, nothing has worked so far. I ran macros.

[floral cargo]

Yeah i think ill wait til sunday

[dull flame]

Maybe Oden out for safyia or lyca

[twin raft]

yep, waiting is the only solution i guess

[alpine gazelle]

Getting rekt hard

[floral cargo]

Oh wow letting nara pull zolrath did actually turn out great

50mil clean.

Thanks meh

[humble zodiac]

tbh, most of us doesnt have good knowledge on early chapter clear formation

[alpine gazelle]

:(((((

If only I had +30 Thoran, sometimes RNG happens and he can ult two times but second ult won't keep him alive unless +30.

Those red chests come by so slowly

[lean pumice]

@humble zodiac do you remember the 37-56 3rd battle ?

[alpine gazelle]

Well, RNG happened again. Arden and that snipah man ulted Thoran while Thoran was in ult so I won.

[humble zodiac]

yeah?

[alpine gazelle]

RNG suxs

[lean pumice]

this thing frustrates me

[patent hemlock]

@left spindle I scuffed the r3 if you can manage this

[lean pumice]

lazy thoran doesnt ult at all xd

[humble zodiac]

did you put call 5* on nara and kelthur

[left spindle]

My main teams are AAAM, Luc 5p and Daimon GB

[lean pumice]

here it is

[humble zodiac]

not at all? i remember he ults 80% of the time

[patent hemlock]

R3 should be easy regardless, if you can copy r1 & r2 you should be good to go

[left spindle]

My ainz team can clear anything really, its just a case of cracking either r1 or r2 with luc or daimon

[lean pumice]

nah he does like 10% of the time

his energy bar gets full and he dies instant

[left spindle]

Trying your r1 now. I dont use ezizh much

[patent hemlock]

He’s just there for energy, fine at e

[humble zodiac]

did skregg immediately died or survive a few second?

[left spindle]

getting stomped

[lean pumice]

died immediatly

[patent hemlock]

[patent hemlock]

Try to remove feraels m weapon, I think I had his fear proc first

[left spindle]

hmm still no joy

[patent hemlock]

Try afkhelper, you’d probably have better luck there

[humble zodiac]

tbh, i dont have any problem on thoran not being able to ults, most of the problem are that mezoth keep being alive after thoran ults your level are higher than mine so maybe there's a difference on that. iirc skregg died after taking two hits from enemy.

[left spindle]

yea i started there. most people have used thoran

[brisk ridge]

Hey, I have a question, just got to 37-8 and there is an enormous difficulty spike compared to 37-4, bosses here have 200M+ for each stage and at 37-4 it was ~120M.
Is it going to be a thing from now on? Will enemies have 300M at 37-12?

[rose tundra]

Asking for the 3rd time, help?

[brisk ridge]

Front: albedo arthur
Any 2 heroes ahould be fine, maybe lyca for boost and rowan in mid + ainz

[lean pumice]

tried this one several times as well, thoran ults now but can't manage to kill everyone

[tidal roost]

trying for this, but rosaline dies instantly in fight #2, what am i doing wrong?
https://afkhelper.nax.is/images/chapters/38-4_1635955901.webp

[alpine gazelle]

How did he manage to win? Wth

[final hazel]

Uhm… why u not using daimon??

[faint sinew]

Who

He's on my back of team

[final hazel]

no he not

[digital skiff]

That's a good oden on the winning players team

and +30 rowan

[alpine gazelle]

Hmm. Makes sense now 😀

How to beat this stage? I tried everything from afk helper but nothing worked for me

[covert condor]

What lineup should i use with 4* call?

[willow fable]

Check out my clear on afkhelper, I used 4* call here

[covert condor]

K omw i think i checkd most and best i came up was this twins thing

[wet dagger]

Any tips for this one? Front line heroes die instantly

[fiery wing]

help stuck here for 3 days now

[stable ember]

Thanks for the help! (Even if I'm super delayed seeing it)

[warm maple]

Oh no problem hope you beat it

[blissful mist]

That team is just super rng, took me near 1k retry

[ebon hazel]

I feel like I'm getting proper RNG but my Diamon is falling short

[fast imp]

Help? Stuck for a long time so far

[ebon hazel]

Do you have Daimon?

[fast imp]

I don’t think so

Who is he?

[tight juniper]

GB kid

[fast imp]

Also just my heros

Anything I can do without daimon?

?

[lament iron]

put mirael in back middle, brutus and thoran front row then silas and shimera back row

[pale kettle]

Ofc you can't thoran cheese when your Thoran is si 10

[fast imp]

Doesn’t work:/

[forest rivet]

Idc if numisu is a bad healer or having 2 supports isn’t good this lineup’s been a lifesaver for me lately + they’re the only healers I’ve got really.
I’m stuck on this stage though so it could be a matter of position swapping or just leveling up more. Vedan is usually the only one left alive (sometimes others too but mostly him)

[pale kettle]

Ummm sooo shemira is complete garbage but since you have her at l swap daimon and shemira maybe

[forest rivet]

She’s still a p consistent carry for me atm

[pale kettle]

Also I wouldn’t put totem dude in rc cause he’s at l and I would recommend reading beginner’s guide in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

We don’t have to talk about 22+

[forest rivet]

Carry-ish I mean. More like she can survive.
And I did, lmao, gonna take him out at reset so I can level him more

[forest rivet]

Pain

[vital kernel]

Too early to swap, shemira shouldn't go above L+ though

[forest rivet]

Im guessing she gets super outclassed later on?

[pale kettle]

Yeah daimon is a much better option if you get him to m+20

[vital kernel]

She's outclassed by daimon at every stage of the game, but since the game throws you so many copies I guess it's not terrible to go to L+

[forest rivet]

Yea that’s the main reason she’s that high lmao

[vital kernel]

I usually suggest to fodder that first L+ shemira to daimon but then save shem copies after that

[forest rivet]

Nods nods

[pale kettle]

I foddered another l+ to oden but oh well

[vital kernel]

As long as you know what you're doing it's not bad, but at chapter 9 the knowledge is fairly limited

[forest rivet]

Stages like these make me wish you could switch formations from 3-2 to 2-3 ngl. Nara is my Murderer but I don’t want to switch her with a tank

[vital kernel]

Not taking shots pip I'm just stating that you're early on

You should read the beginner guides in #classic-questions though like stupid suggested

Lol why is that your username I felt dirty calling you that

[forest rivet]

Dw, I didn’t see it that way! I’m definitely lacking in experience since I was apparently stuck on chapter 8 since 2020😭
I’ve been reading the guides, too! That’s why I’ve been using daimon BC I’m ngl I never noticed I had him

[pale kettle]

Cause I’m stupid

[vital kernel]

If you took a long break you also may want to consider restarting on a newer server as you can catch up to where you are very quickly and won't be forever outclassed in server rank

[pale kettle]

Me or? Pip

[vital kernel]

Pip

[forest rivet]

I wouldn’t be opposed to that but I have 2 celepogeans that despite not being able to do much with I don’t want to lose lmao

[vital kernel]

If one of those aren't twins or mortas you aren't missing much by losing them

[pale kettle]

^

[forest rivet]

Ill consider it but I still want to give the current one a try

[vital kernel]

If you don't care about being competitive with your server and them having access to heroes that will take you 6 months each to obtain then you don't need to switch

[forest rivet]

Yeah I don’t really care much about the pvp beyond daily/weekly quests

[vital kernel]

You will eventually

And it's not just pvp there's other things like campaign progress

[forest rivet]

Never been much of a pvp person ngl. I’ll see

[pale kettle]

Yeah like you’ll get ur name up here

[digital skiff]

Yeah

[forest rivet]

Man. I can switch back to the original at any time as long I have both linked right?

[vital kernel]

It is very nice being in the top 10 as f2p

Yes you can switch between both accounts

[pale kettle]

Yep

[forest rivet]

Ok, I’ll probably give that a go later then

Maybe I’ll get some ACTUAL healers beside numisu on the new one lmao

[pale kettle]

Yeah like Rowan

[vital kernel]

Does ainz not work for you

[pale kettle]

@vital kernel would you mind helping with this one I want to get in the leaderboards and no

[forest rivet]

Would I need to link the new server acct to a different fb/gamecenter/whatever account?

[pale kettle]

Nope just it will be the same as ur using

Also x= raku mehira comp

[forest rivet]

Ok that’s a relief lmao. I’ll probably do it tomorrow since i have a paper I should be writing

[pale kettle]

Speaking of raku mehira como didn’t work cause Brutus

[vital kernel]

Maybe
Fera
Grez
Ainz
Rosa
Tasi/Merlin?

Idk I rarely help in lineup help

Or check afk helper

[pale kettle]

Grez and ainz kinda are slightly binded

[vital kernel]

Oh I see that now mb

Rosa might actually be better in the raku mehira team than lyca

[nocturne otter]

stuck here

[worldly apex]

Brutus daimon Oden silas lyca
try something like that

[nocturne otter]

alright ill try it

[drowsy gazelle]

After awhile, i just feels like its a chore. Lol

[vital kernel]

I had a short battle for a bit but managed to squeeze ahead, briefly was close to getting pushed out

[keen flame]

I require the help

[vital kernel]

2 questions for ya
Why haven't you +30 Rowan yet
And why is he not in the front or at least back middle

Also you have daimon for one comp and lucretia for another, you should use them

And be careful with engravings, the resources for it are very rare still for you to do random heroes like tasi

[keen flame]

Yeah lol she was the only one star I had some I went for her first

[clear juniper]

Help with team building
I dont know much about what team partners should i get and the sheep child is my only healer between the rare

[vital kernel]

Visit #classic-questions and read the pins, they will explicitly tell ya what heroes to level

[stable ember]

Might be able to RNG through this one, but open for ideas on it

[warm maple]

Rowan
Daimon
Ferael
Brutus
Lyca/Nara

@stable ember lemme know if that works and what's the problem if it doesnt

[stable ember]

I tried it; thane chunks Daimon down and at times kills him before shield procs. But rowan and daimon swapping places did better with rowan taking Thanes focus

[warm maple]

Alright did you beat it.

[stable ember]

Just did; Thanks for the assist.

[warm maple]

Glad to help

[tepid shard]

could someone give me a team im really not sure who to use

[west skiff]

help me (test server)

[pale kettle]

team?

[lament iron]

try using the same comp as me

[digital skiff]

How the fuck

[royal stag]

Brutus, Rowan (get his si up to +30), Lyca, Tasi, Daimon

[west skiff]

help..again

[fiery wing]

try to remove fereal's weapon

[vital kernel]

What do you mean

[vital kernel]

Does Arthur grez front daimon Rowan ferael back not work?

[lament iron]

any help w this stage? they just keep fucking healing and i can’t do anything 💀💀

[proven river]

Maybe
Farael
------DaVinci
Rowan
------Daimon
Oden

[lament iron]

Nope 😦

[proven river]

Need more infos like the details of the fight

[lament iron]

basically what happens is:

firstly daimon ults
they heal
rowan ults
daimon ults
they heal
my entire team dies
they heal

[proven river]

Amd daVinci doesnt get ult or

[lament iron]

rarely. even if he does it barely makes a difference

this is the closest i’ve got to winning

[proven river]

Try to put a lyca in maybe

And switch rowan with DaVinci

[lament iron]

she’s in there

[proven river]

@lament iron

Also
Farael
-------Rowan
DaVinci
-------Lyca
Daimon

[lament iron]

still not working i appreciate ur help tho

[final nacelle]

Could anyone recommend me a couple comps to build out of my current selection.
I'm on chapter 13 and getting a bit stuck :/

[final hazel]

I think u need better heroes

[warm swan]

@pale kettle something like numisu, brutus, ant, skreg, skriath

Can also prolly send a suicidal satrana there

[harsh cedar]

LB tower 410

[pale kettle]

I suggest reading the beginners guide in #classic-questions cause made a large mistake

[final hazel]

Start again on a new server

[novel sparrow]

i h it a wall, any help?

[spare robin]

I'm guessing Silvina jumps Gwyn and murders her?
I'd be tempted to say take out Thoran and put Treznor in his place, and add Safiya in the top back spot, Lyca in the middle

[novel sparrow]

i think with some really good rng it might work

[spare robin]

You should also take a look at the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel when you get the chance, you're ascending a lot of units to L, and that's one of the biggest beginner traps in the game. You should generally never ascend any hero above E+ before you've got eight copies of it, and are planning to get it all the way to A

[novel sparrow]

oh i didnt know that, i just thought ascend when i can cause, more power

[spare robin]

Yeah, that is the intuitively correct thing to do, so almost everyone does

But it's more often than not a very big long-term power sacrifice, for a minor small-term gain

And the game does a really poor job of conveying that fact to new players

[novel sparrow]

yeah i can tell, game didnt do anything at all to let me know i shouldnt do that lol

hopefully i'll be fine though cause most of the units i ascended are units i'll wanna keep using late game as well

[spare robin]

Yeah, you'll be fine, your account isn't in a terrible spot, you've put your resources into units that are long-term viable for the most part, but you could have been in a better spot with better resource management

At a glance, you should reset either Rosa or Rowan and get the exp back from them, and put that into Lyca instead, so that you have your highest ascended units in the resonance crystal pentagram

[novel sparrow]

maybe i should reset satrana instead

[spare robin]

You want to be able to keep putting levels into Lyca since she's your only A unit, you can level her all the way up to 240, but right now she is locked to 160

Screenshot your mauler box?

[novel sparrow]

not a lot going on

[spare robin]

You generally want to have one unit from each faction on the pentagram

[novel sparrow]

oooohhh

[spare robin]

Because of how fodder works, you usually end up only being able to ascend one unit per faction at a time

I think you should look at your mauler wishlist, and copy one from the beginner guides, I think you've got some sub-optimal starting units on it

Satrana and Antandra are both low priority maulers, you generally don't want to invest into either of them before you're well into the lategame

[novel sparrow]

yeah this is my mauler wishlist, i just put brutus and whoever is cute, cause apparently maulers are kinda bad anyways

[spare robin]

But in your particular case, you might actually want to keep Satrana on your wishlist and make her your first A mauler simply because you've already got her to L+, and you've got an extra copy

[pale kettle]

best hero to garrison

[spare robin]

That is the most amazing reasoning I've ever seen, lmao

[novel sparrow]

hahahaha

[spare robin]

Maulers have gotten a LOT better though, they used to be quite bad, but that has changed a lot

In your case, I would add Kren, Tidus, Skreg, Skriath and Satrana to your wishlist there

[pale kettle]

answer me now

or else

[spare robin]

What is your question?

[pale kettle]

best hero to garrison

[spare robin]

If it's your first garrison unit, then Ainz is the highest prio one to get first - Ideally with Albedo at the same time

[spare robin]

On second thought, Kren, Tidus, Skriath, Safiya and Satrana

[novel sparrow]

got it!
guessing it doesnt really matter which one i take out of my pentagram between rosalina and rowan? maybe rosalina cause i wanna mythic rowan when i can someone said

[spare robin]

Doesn't really matter no, you might have to change it later depending on which one of them you get more copies of first anyway, but yeah, you definitely want to prioritize Rowan if you get the chance, so I'd take out Rosa for now as well

For the maulers, you would ideally make Tidus or Kren your first ascended unit, but you're most likely going to need to ascend either Safiya or Satrana first instead, in order to be able to keep levelling up

[novel sparrow]

is satrana still good late game? she used to carry me early but now i rarely have a use for her anymore cause she just dies

[spare robin]

Yeah, that's kinda going to be the case more or less forever sadly

[novel sparrow]

so i'll probably wanna use her as fodder for safiya later then

[spare robin]

She has some very small niches where she can be effective, so it's worth keeping her around anyway

And you generally never want to use ascended tier units as fodder, you only want to use the blue base tier ones

But in this particular case, it's honestly not completely outrageous to use her as fodder for Safiya if you need to

[novel sparrow]

i'll keep her around until needed then, no reason to fodder her right now

[digital skiff]

F2p ch38

[vital kernel]

[spare robin]

Wait and see who you actually get copies of first though, yeah. You don't really want to do anything before you get more copies so you can see what you have to work with

[vital kernel]

Ch39 isn't too far off now either

[pale kettle]

numisu is good healer

[fossil dragon]

What would be my best team for general content? I'm new so I'm not sure.

[pale kettle]

can pop work as tank and dps

[ebon hazel]

He's AGI so a little tankiness from dodge, but it's not a role he can have

Just consider him as CC and subdps

[spare robin]

Take a look at the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel, they've got a lot of suggestions on how to manage your heroes in the earlygame, and which heroes to focus on

[forest rivet]

I was using him BC he was my best healer but everyone said he was bad😭

[terse gate]

Who should I invest into?

[lament iron]

rowan and oden. Don’t get any more ascended tier heroes to Legendary if you don’t have the copies to get them to mythic

[terse gate]

Okay

Thanks

[digital skiff]

No

[lament iron]

Also since i just noticed. Reset all ur heroes except for: Rowan, shimera, respen and ira. put 140 into shimera and rowan and distribute the rest among respen, ira and ankhira

Ur only supposed to level up 5 heroes. the rest can go on the resonating crystal

[terse gate]

Okay

[final hazel]

if u could get a daimon he will carry you for ever

forever

[forest rivet]

Is raine good to put in the resonating Crystal? (I’d check the guide but I’m on mobile rn and google docs stuff is . Terrible on mobile)

[coral pier]

For chapter 9? No. She is great at some bosses and campaign teams later on but not that much use early game.

[forest rivet]

Thanks! I should actually change my name-- I restarted on another server since i was so behind so I just hit chapter 5

[coral pier]

Both are very early game so the recommendations between those 2 chapters are generally the same

[forest rivet]

👍 i'm trying the wukong-to-mirael carry instructions from the guide atm (at least until i HOPEFULLY get daimon)

this time ill be sure to religiously use my faction summons on gb only lmao

[coral pier]

Yeah that is a good idea. Summoning GB is great for a new account.

[forest rivet]

yea im a gb main even since the old acct. there's just so many consistently good ones (or so i've heard + experienced. ik shes not that good later on but in my old acct shemira was amazing for me. + the obvious nara murder)

[coral pier]

Kind of a shame how much shemira and nara have fallen out of the meta

[forest rivet]

damn, i can see shemira, but nara? ig since it's been easier to get beefed up more then huh . or interrupting her grapple

[coral pier]

You can still use her to interrupt enemy heroes but overall using a hero slot for just that 1 thing is a big cost. I just don't see people doing that as much in lategame replays as they used to.

[forest rivet]

Yeaa I can see that. Speaking of GB heroes, Silas is good support, right? Is he inherently good or should I not bother w him until I have more copies+fodder? (I just got him from a soul stone summon)

[alpine gazelle]

Silas is good but can drop off at chapter 23+. At least it dropped off from my team formation at that chapter because I couldn't keep Silas alive at all, especially from Silvina.

Imo, he needs some investment or a good team that can protect the backline or provide tons of shields like Lucius or Mishka. Mishka needs big investment tho.

[forest rivet]

👍👍Sounds reasonable. I’m not too worried about lategame at the moment. I just got Ferael, too.

[dull flame]

drop off at chapter 23+? I'm using him in chap 37 at a 190 lvl deficit, and whales are using him in chap 44, where did you get the drop off from?

[dull flame]

silas is one of the best healers in the game, can also buff heroes too

[alpine gazelle]

:O? Well I talked from my experience with Silas 👀 . I'm not that far off in the game. I don't have engravements or SI 30 or even furniture for Silas which is the sole reason why it dropped off for me starting from chapter 23

[dull flame]

no hero can perform properly if they aren't in a proper team. What team do you use him in and what are your heroes?

[alpine gazelle]

Grez, Thoran, Oden, Silas, Daimon

[dull flame]

silas sometimes can get sniper by silvina, but she disappears after chap 33 I think. Positioning is key too

[alpine gazelle]

Silas mid best for gas to give healings to both front line heroes imo

[dull flame]

mhm, your right

[alpine gazelle]

If mid doesn't work out, I usually throw Rowan mid and Silas to the place where specific tank needs that healing for sure and Rowan can cover the rest of the team

[dull flame]

yep, that's how I do it too. I know silas seems kinda "meh" right now, I know because I have a casual alt in chap 25, but as the chapters progress he will become your best healer.

[alpine gazelle]

Right now I'm stuck at chapter 27, full of Silvina's or Arden's or Ferael's doing lots of dmg. My Silas wouldn't stand a change nor does my entire team basically. 80 level deficit for 4 heroes in my team. I'll bring Silas back to my team formation for sure in the future once my frontline is a lot stronger.

Those heals and injections are the reason why my Daimon managed to wipe enemy team sometimes

[dull flame]

Yep, his furn and sign makes it even better

[alpine gazelle]

Awesome stats 😁

[forest rivet]

Any advice for 5-20 (beyond obviously leveling/overleveling)?

[hidden creek]

What should i do to the lineup^

[royal stag]

U could reset Wu kong and put all lvls in Mirael

[lethal thistle]

also if u have unlocked the resonating crystal then only level up 5 of Ur heroes and put the others that u would use on the crystal

and level up the 5 as much as u can

I would suggest overleveling shemira as well she's a very good early game carry

[pale kettle]

who’s best healer

[royal stag]

Rowan

[hidden creek]

JUST GOT DAIMON

[royal stag]

Nice

[hidden creek]

So ill reset wu and put his levels on daimon

[royal stag]

U unlocked ur resonating Crystal?

[hidden creek]

Yea

Im chapter 5 lol.

@Kadezh#3211

@royal stag reset?

[finite hare]

Check this out wtf

Just how xd

[safe hazel]

Don’t do 5 fodder heroes and then use resonating crystal for rest of heroes

Just look at the beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions for a quick run down

[empty harbor]

Nice

[barren palm]

Can I get some help on this

[final hazel]

Move thoran infront of ainz to hopefully let him survive long enough to ult?

And switch out that weird Smurf guy that’s in frontline for daimon

[barren palm]

Alright thanks

[mortal mural]

How should I beat this, or can I even beat this?

[pale kettle]

Brain's not big enough

[willow bramble]

So it seems like the best Wrizz/Soren comp is Belinda instead of Warek judging by all the showcase posts on Reddit... was it always that way or only after Engravings were introduced?

[stable ember]

Struggling to make a dent on this one. CC is definitely giving some issues. Any suggestions?

[burnt cargo]

Tried this, doesnt really work

Any other lineups or do i have to level up the characters?

[ornate gale]

Maybe wu king instead of grezul?

*wu kong

[burnt cargo]

Did this and changed silvina with rowan, it worked thanks

[ornate gale]

Your welcome

[pale kettle]

team 1 swap eiron and tasi, team 2 drop skreg for arthur

@pale kettle team 1 and 2 are winners, mostly looking for swaps as u said, skreg for Arthur. Need to help out 3 and 4.

[pale kettle]

ah, depening on how good the ainz win was you can maybe swap rowan out for someone if hes not needed, if hes needed thats okay too. Team 3 drop numisu for oden, team 4 try lucretia with 4 hypos with dueldivinity artifact or shroud/longbow. Make sure she has the best gear possible though

Luc is +30, full t3. 0 furn. I'll give that a go, thanks for taking the time buddy.

gl

👍 👍

Stuck on 38-20 r2. Thoran cheese isn't working after a few thousand attempts. Think I over leveled. Any ideas on new comp? I have all heroes ascended and most of the important ones 309.

[dull flame]

have you geared thoran correctly?

[pale kettle]

Yes.

I mean I dont think your deficit is too low but that being said you could probably use a different team since deficit isnt that high

[dull flame]

you are overlevelled....

[pale kettle]

Yeah that's why I said I think I'm over leveled. Looking for an alternate team.

[pearl night]

Any tips ?

[pale kettle]

post full box and lemme see if I can come up with anything

[dull flame]

could you try normal 5p for 5th team and luc the 2nd?

[pale kettle]

This is my full box.

[pale kettle]

use a merc

[pearl night]

I've to wait tomorrow i already used it

[pale kettle]

You have a few options here, you can either run luc with duel divinity for one round and vanilla 5p for another. Option 2 is running kren comp, option 3 is running a cc raku type team

Okay I'll slot in luc comp for r2. Try thoran r5 or just some standard team like kren?

@pale kettle two retries on stage 3, first try in every other stage, following your instructions. Appreciate the help!

[pale kettle]

ayy grats!

😄

[sick granite]

is this possible? i tried a bit but couldnt figure it out

[pale kettle]

probably kren would be easier

kk gonna set macro and see if it stops on r5. If it does I'll switch to kren/

gl!

[pale kettle]

Rowan back mid, brutus across Thane, Hendrick across Lucian, Daimon top back, Farael back bottom??

[pale kettle]

If you do decide to run luc 5p for r2, shes probably gonna be needing longbow btw

[pale kettle]

My luc is stronger than I'd like to admit. I do not doubt her capabilities lol.

She's about to be 36 40 100.

@pale kettle
How'd you get a hero box like that, btw? Made it yourself?

[pale kettle]

My guild master made a bot that does it for us.

[pale kettle]

ah right but still, orthos can be one stally mf so better safe than sorry kek

Interesting, you mind sharing?

I'm not sure how since it's a discord bot.

Gotcha. NP then. Props to your GM !

[slender wind]

Need help with stage 29-60, currently running lucius daimon oden Brutus rowan and RC is 275, the athalia keeps eating my team and putting a Brutus across from her can only help so much, pls dm if you can help cause imgur does not work on my phone for some reason

[pale kettle]

grab a 309 e60 lucretia merc and then spam retries

[slender wind]

word, none of my friends are online but ill see if I can get one

[radiant nova]

Thoughts?

[warm swan]

Goodluck

[pale kettle]

Went from 35-28, to 35-40 with your lineup @pale kettle, hope you're still awake. Stuck here.

Rest of the heroes available in the screenies.

Using my absolute worst gear, t1 mythics, t2 unmatched, on this lineup.

Looks like he's sleeping boys this is a 911 emergency. Anybody willing to give some insight?

[gusty wolf]

Been stuck for days, any suggestions?

[hybrid kelp]

I can’t winnnnnnnnnn @-@

Tried every possible combo.

[radiant nova]

no albedo?

[hybrid kelp]

No guild mates want me to but. No

[stable ember]

So close yet so far to chapter 24. Any suggestions? The mercenaries can be included

[empty harbor]

Merc resets tmrw so you can try rowan, Saurus, daimon, ferael, thoran

[stable ember]

Yeah I was figuring using mercs since it's a high value stage anyways. Ty for input

[final hazel]

U need to snipe the mireal

[final hazel]

Someone that can snipe

[winter vessel]

how to get mitycal

?

[lament iron]

Look at the beginners guide in #classic-questions

[old oar]

Any ideas?

[past urchin]

Ok.
That is uncheesable with Thoran.
I mean it technically is, but not something you wanna do if you value your sanity.

[rose tundra]

Yee i figured but i just dunno what to use

I tried diff starts but kek

[drowsy gazelle]

I mean, he cant either way with +10

[past urchin]

Daimon

Brutus
Eironn
Rowan
Skriath.

Ez

[drowsy gazelle]

Wait. He dont even have 5pull bro

[rose tundra]

I have 3f on chicken

[drowsy gazelle]

Do you? I cant see the 3/9 on chicken or im blind

[past urchin]

Maybe not equipped.
He just ascended him he says.

[rose tundra]

Gotta work on gear but i did just ascend him today and had 3f ready

[drowsy gazelle]

Oh right

Why did u +20 him

Now i know why u lack emblem

[rose tundra]

😂also bcs i can but cant 30 him and i started a while ago and thought i might aswell finish it

[drowsy gazelle]

Anyway, just try rev's suggestion

[rose tundra]

Mega fail xD

[drowsy gazelle]

. Daimon backline bro, throw chicken frontline

He survive or not doesnt matter

[past urchin]

^

[rose tundra]

Nah its ok i just switched daimon and brutus position and eironn to middle

And daimon went ham😂

[past urchin]

Well yeah.
At this deficit you can do whatever really.
No offence.

[rose tundra]

XD

[drowsy gazelle]

That wouldnt work at higher deficits. Daimon at backline better

[old oar]

Any ideas?

[rose tundra]

im about to go crazy at these stages just redid 435 like 10 times to beat it xD

[drowsy gazelle]

Change eironn to someone who has cc? Like ferael. And switxh antandra brutus position

[old oar]

K

[drowsy gazelle]

Tbh you would have better chance just ditch lucius and use brutus. Lucius is just kinda arse

[past urchin]

Why Lucius???
Terribad useless hero.

[rose tundra]

shield cuz of ferael so i have a chance to ult and i managed to pull an ainz ult and daimon

which in the end he,lped me kill

and idk why or how it happens i ask for help and somehow after tries i somehow win

[past urchin]

Because at 79 levels of deficit you can just brute force it.
That wont be the case soon enough.

[verbal verge]

Need good team for pve pls

[warm swan]

@verbal verge wukong to 100 as the guide says

[earnest thicket]

Level up a 5th hero so that your heroes (i.e. Thoran) that you placed on the RC can be leveled as well

I would level up Mirael

[radiant flax]

Running 2 teams currently, anything i can improve on these? On 26-50 atm

Or any possible extra teams i dont see

[earnest thicket]

those are some based formation names btw

[radiant flax]

😂

[earnest thicket]

Rowan +30 is pretty fuckin good
Izold +30 enables him to carry, however he falls off eventually so think about that first before doing that.
For Ainz blast, build for +30 Albedo and Ainz 9f
For Daimon pump, Daimon to 3f helps him carry a lot
As a side note, multi-battles start in Chapter 31

If you're looking for a third team, consider building Skirath, get his 3f and you'll have 5-pull ready

[radiant flax]

Rowan is almost +30
Will i rather push albedo next over ainz?

[earnest thicket]

both are equally important, but i would personally prioritize ainz 9f first, albedo +30 second

[worthy wadi]

best comp for me?
and who would be the carry
done 240 pulls and this is what i was left with

[lament iron]

much better. make sure to read the beginners guide in the #classic-questions channel

[terse gate]

Yea I did

What lineup should I use?

[drowsy gazelle]

@sick lotus @past urchin

Its rely close, for the one lineup by rev

So most likely to be just rng. I think without ult would win that

[sick lotus]

yeah i reckon i can rng it

with this lineup rosa dies from mini skreg or roar

[drowsy gazelle]

rosa is so sad

[sick lotus]

the thing i don’t understand is how am i supposed to finish them off when they’re low without ult? cos if i can’t finish them off i’ll still be fighting 2v5 or so

[drowsy gazelle]

If they are all really low and raku can kill them with 1 ult. Then he will just keep on ulting. Your only choice is either rng-ing through normal, or ulting and killing all in one go

[sick lotus]

hmm guess raku charm is rng heavy huh

[drowsy gazelle]

Just on specific enemy like these since they can become cc immune

[sick lotus]

would’ve liked it if i was around when ezio came out

[blissful mist]

If u put Rosa in 5 and raku in 3, does raku get os ?

[drowsy gazelle]

Rosa seems to die by axe/mini skreg

[sick lotus]

rosa dies by axe

[drowsy gazelle]

What gear u have on rosa? Think u can spare some gear from somewhere to her?

[sick lotus]

rosa has trash gear 👀. i can swap from rowan i guess

[drowsy gazelle]

Rowan kinda needs it too

[blissful mist]

U can also try charm comp on the other team and put mehira in 1, let position 4 and 5 die quick, in the end she will charm everyone

[sick lotus]

or oden but i use him in my second team

[drowsy gazelle]

Warrek is still a provlem tho

[blissful mist]

1 control immune is easier than 2 but yea

[past urchin]

Another option.
Beat r1 like you did before.
And abandon charm altogether.
Do something like Raku behind Arthur with Rowan, Lyca,Tasi for r2
The deficit is low.
It can totally work.
Hell even Lucius may do something here tbh.

[sick lotus]

oh yeah eironn’s a thing too 🙃

[sick lotus]

oh yeah i’ll give it a shot

[drowsy gazelle]

You sure? Solise doesnt work here tho

[past urchin]

[sick lotus]

rip lucius. also how am i supposed to use arthur here if eiron will pull in pos 1 and warek will throw in pos 2

[past urchin]

I was kidding with Lucius!
Sorry.
Rowan up front.
Lyca tanks Athalia
Or Tasi could too.
Experimant around.

[sick lotus]

u’ve gotta be kidding me

[drowsy gazelle]

Yup, warrek the cc immune

[sick lotus]

end my suffering please raku can’t touch him

i’ve gotten the same situation 3 times now

[drowsy gazelle]

Which is why i said raku 1st comp is like better tbh. U can rng this but i personally hate warrek raku

[sick lotus]

first is also pretty annoying. tbh i can wait for merc and just do it that way

[drowsy gazelle]

Sure, why not. You dont have thoran +0 right?

[past urchin]

Legendary Thoran from what I recall.

Or L+ at best

[sick lotus]

i can rng it probably so no worries

[lament iron]

any tips for this?

[sick lotus]

yeah l+

make it stop please

@past urchin @drowsy gazelle thanks yall 🙂

[past urchin]

Gz.

[sick lotus]

uhh that looks like a pretty oof stage. maybe daimon, rowan, nara, brutus, and ainz in that order?

[drowsy gazelle]

Gratz

[lament iron]

yay

[pale kettle]

If khazard is the issue then try switching Nara and oden, if he’s not the issue then bring in Rowan instead of Nara and place him in position 4 and oden in position 5

[hard wind]

what can I change to win this?

[tight juniper]

I remembered doing Lyca, Rowan, Fera, Eironn, and Daimon. Get them good gear to survive. Or just wait for mercs

[spice aspen]

swap lyca with lukretiza

and have lukretiza top then bottom

she should focus eziz

[hard wind]

@spice aspen like this?

[spice aspen]

yeah

also if that doesn't work try to put eiron on top so you can kill the top area faster

[hard wind]

neither are working i dont do nearly enough damage

[tepid shard]

im stuck in campaign and i dont know who to use

[candid breach]

Is my team any good?

[stable ember]

Trying to get 280 down before reset to use up my mercenaries. Any suggestions on making a dent?

[midnight bronze]

I wish they would let me see what I used on the single non-boss stages so I could show you what I used

[pale kettle]

pop or ainz to garrison

[fiery wing]

i used

brutus

fereal (no weap)
rowan
grez
daimon

[crisp raft]

Can anyone show me their Raku lineup? For campaign, trying to sort out my 4th team

[pearl night]

Any tips ? Ainz cant ult cuz im getting one shot

[pearl night]

Got a lucretia but still losing..

[golden perch]

@pearl night try Luc 5pull it. Luc, Lyca, eironn, skriath, safiya - in that order

[pale kettle]

I need to win this chapter to get stargazer this is last boss anyone help?

[hard wind]

can I improve this at all from here or am I just limited by my current heroes/level

[lament iron]

check the comp i used

i think it was smth like this

it took sum RNG tho

[hard wind]

im still getting melted, i think my heroes are just flat out too weak

…nevermind, daimon just wiped them all

appreciate the help a ton @lament iron

[lament iron]

Yep no problem and ur heroes aren’t weak lmao they r stronger than mine 😂😂

[pale kettle]

I have a question about lineups, is it like tanks in the front and damage dealers/ healers in the back?

[lament iron]

not necessarily. generally u wanna have 1 carry, 1 tank and 3 support heroes (damage buffers, healers, debuffers etc)

[pale kettle]

Any ideas on what to do?

[signal canopy]

I don't think Gwen or Raku are doing much so reposition and put in Brutus and Tasi or Silas instead of them

[delicate reef]

Can try brutus into daimon slot, daimon into gwen slot then gwen into rakus’ . So brutus in , raku out

[pale kettle]

it worked, thanks fam

[delicate reef]

np, daimon needs time to ramp up his damage so brutus frontline usually does the work earlier into the chapters

[pale kettle]

appreciate it brotha, so in stargazer, i put in lucretia as my choice thingy. is that ideal?

[delicate reef]

Lucretia is a solid choice

[rotund matrix]

Any help/advice on this stage guys?

[delicate reef]

@rotund matrix consider investing on daimon he's simply way too good of a carry. Not too sure what comp can help you honestly because you'll probably lack damage to burst through mirael shield

[rotund matrix]

Well Mirael gets 3 hit if task doesn't banish her cause I got mythic weapon on gwyn. But can daimon as elite+ carry?

[vagrant ibex]

Try
Lucius rowan
Tasi gwyn eiron
Shemira ascended atleast bring you to ch 24+

[fiery wing]

no he needs M to even carry

[proven river]

Any ideas ?

[rotund matrix]

Yeah it's too far ahead for the mythic

[fiery wing]

just keep summoning you might gonna have him M in no time

[rotund matrix]

Eiron doesn't even have time to pull ☹️

[vagrant ibex]

Arthur brutus
Daimon fera oden/nara
It depends on fera fear but if you dont have nara try to swap oden pos he might throw backline usually if you put him on number 4

Try lyca then .... its hard to use gwynt as a carry unless she has si 20+ and 3f

Dats why i suggest to up shem since you have only elite+ daimon . Or just be patient

[warm swan]

@proven river got a way to interrupt that mehira? Can prolly go with arthur, brutus, oden, flex, mehira counter

[drowsy gazelle]

Nara/athalia/silvina can all interrupt mehira bats. Just cancel her bats or your winning rate is quite low unless you brute force and rng it

[warm swan]

Wtf you're back to orange. Congrats

[drowsy gazelle]

Sup, thx

[pale kettle]

top 3 best healers

[sour pond]

any comps without thoran?

[pale kettle]

top 3 best healers

[pale kettle]

Maybe brutus grezhul oden lyca daimon

[midnight bronze]

Stuck on this

[pale kettle]

Thoran rowan ferael nara(or eironn) daimon

Or arthur albedo ainz rowan ferael

[grim veldt]

Any tips?

[old oar]

Any ideas? I can barrow 1 mouler from my clan.

[royal stag]

Kren

[old oar]

K

[keen bluff]

Help

[forest rivet]

Any advice?

(Beyond obviously leveling up)

[pale kettle]

Try golus brutus daimon silvinna nara

[forest rivet]

Worked, ty!

[undone tree]

Who all should i focus on here?

[safe hazel]

Can someone suggest a lineup for me

[stable ember]

Any ideas on this one? It's been a bit of a brick wall

[stable ember]

First, don't make heroes L if you can't make them L+, and once wukong can't carry more shift to Mirael. Check the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions

[fierce viper]

Maybe lyca instead of thoran

[wheat scarab]

What are best teams for LCT?

[coral oyster]

I need help on making a team

[fiery wing]

you could do

rowan

izold
daimon
talene
silas

[coral oyster]

@fiery wing. Ok ill try it thx

[eternal badger]

nope terrible

[midnight bronze]

I'd swap Rowan and daimon

[dense hull]

Any tips here or am I being limited by hero levels?

[maiden marsh]

you check afkhelper?

[hazy snow]

Road blocked at this point, don't know how I can pass it

[stable ember]

I would play around with ferael on the lineup, his cc can work wonders

[stable ember]

I just now cleared that level running:
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Ferael

Lyca definitely pushed me over the small ledge to finish it.

[lofty nebula]

Does anyone have a working lineup for this battle in treznor's trial

this lineup is from datguywind's guide, but i've tried it a dozen or so times and it hasn't worked

kelthur just keeps cheesing

[stable ember]

Just ran it with this and cleared in one shot

[lofty nebula]

that went much better, tyvm

[cyan fossil]

This is my general lineup for content. Don’t have anyone else ranked up that high, so outside of Friend units they’re who I use

[fiery wing]

wheres is this

[coral pier]

Are those 5 your only ascended units?

[cyan fossil]

Yeah.

[cyan fossil]

Windfall Gorge

[coral pier]

Oh yeah you might want to take a look at the beginner wishlist at #classic-questions

pinned in the channel

[fiery wing]

ohhhh not ToG

just merc ainz and go bonkers

[cyan fossil]

I remember picking up the game not long after it first came out, I think. Played it for a little bit, but ended up dropping it, I think due to limited space on my phone at the time. Only just picked it back up a few months ago. So I've missed out on all the time-limited units and stuff.

[fiery wing]

yeaa thats fine i just gonna find a friend that can merc an ainz and clear the wandering balloon and peaks with ease

[cyan fossil]

For the most part, I'm getting through them mostly with ease.

[fiery wing]

and yea just read the pins in #classic-questions just like laku said so you can get back in shape easily

[vivid stag]

Any good formationS with any of these guys?

[hollow pelican]

Any good formations with these heroes?

[fiery wing]

rowan

daimon
mirael
shem
tasi

if i'm you i wouldnt be investing shem

[viscid orbit]

Help, I cant use my red scroll swap to Shemira

[royal stag]

Ask in #classic-questions

[kind nest]

There is nothing you Can do about it. Sadly.
Remember always to do your research before you invest valuable materials into a hero.

[viscid orbit]

Ah, just found out my engravings on her..

Oh well 🤣

[final hazel]

Move ppl around

[ocean heath]

Doenst help

[warm swan]

@ocean heath need to interrupt mehira's bats from spawning. Got an athalia or nara?

[ocean heath]

Nope

Only athalia but epic

[warm swan]

Try it if the haste is enough to cancel, otherwise might need to merc.

[fiery wing]

you cant swap engraved heroes

[proven river]

Any advice cant beat this team

[arctic merlin]

i need some help the healing is too crazy on the other side this is the final level of The Setting Sun

[warm swan]

@arctic merlin Can't see the rest of your heroes. You got a fera to interrupt?

Ah the easier way would prolly be to merc a better ainz

@proven river something like flex, arthur, flex, lyca, oden

[proven river]

Doesnt work

[warm swan]

Well gee you have to give me more than that chief. Which heroes did you put on flex spots, how many tries, which heroes were the most troublesome, etc. I'm not clairvoyant you know

[empty pulsar]

You need to CC the enemy ferael

My go to was always nemora that early, but you could try nara as well.

[gaunt dragon]

Any ideas?

[maiden marsh]

your ferael is probably using accursed arrow first, slowing down the attack rotation before using fear. you can fix this by removing his weapon, which reduces his haste and makes him use his fear sooner because reasons

[sacred stump]

Any better advice? (Maybe apart from leveling up)

[sacred stump]

Ah

[keen bluff]

Help

[ornate solstice]

Can someone help me pls

[jolly moss]

DaVinci's comp been settled yet? I read it's good to split him and Mehira in multistages. Davinci+Khazard+Zolrath+Kren+Skreg as one, and Mehira+Rosa+Raku+Rowan+Brutus as the other. Thoughts?

[pale kettle]

this my friend account he just play for fun not for competition so his account is messed up
any idea here plz?

[elfin cloak]

56-22?

ohhh its backwards cuz language yes

[pale kettle]

22 -56 yes

[elfin cloak]

wat about
Daimon

brutus
ainz
rowan
nara

idk im stupid so im not good at this

i very dum dum prob wont work

[pale kettle]

I will tell him and test ty

[stable ember]

Try adding lyca. The haste gives daimon a chance to avoid the early cc

Nara is also good for interrupting the arden to stall his cc until daimon gets rolling

[valid pier]

I've seen a few references to a late game shift where Lucrezia moves out of five pull and into an invasion comp... any one have info about the lucy invade comp? What's a standard lineup for it?

[bright rock]

Why is 37-40-3 so cursed and is there any trick to it? ulricry

[ebon hazel]

Are you using 3f Zol and 30 Mehira?

[wet violet]

No trick I used lyca khaz rosa mehira rowan

Mehira e+ enough

[bright rock]

I'm using exactly that team, lyca khaz Rosa mehira Rowan and it just doesn't wanna work. Closest I got was solide alone but she didn't die in time