#lineup-help
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Alright
Will try again! Thanks!
This?
Didn’t work but swapped Raku with Oden and it did! Thanks!
Is this possible to cheese without Call 5*? Can‘t get Thoran to ult lyca also no luck and i need her for the 2. Comp

Raku
Grez
Lyca
Vurk/drez (put drez in if e+)
Twins
Yupyup
It didn't work I tried many times and tried different positions and different people
@flat forum the purpose of having 3 heroes with 5 call on that line-up is because when the other 2 die, they give their energy to thoran. Without that 5, you are just diminishing the effects of the energy gain by having it on 3 heroes.
Swap lyca wit thoran
well i did try many things with other artefacts but nothing is working
Alright I'll try
Remove it from kelthur, and/or pippa. Find another energy source among your pool, raine perhaps. Or add more sustain so thoran can stay alive a bit longer so he can gather more energy
I will try thanks 🙂
It will be very rough tho. Goodluck.
Yeah I also think so still hoping to get 5* call but Gazing dont drop that much and still waiting for events for fragments
Stuck on this stage, any lineup I can use with the heroes shown?
Shoud I get rid of Ferael for Lyca and Safiya gets 1 tapped by Silvina
That's exactly why safi is there
Ah ok
Fera
Tasi/thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
And why the fuck is brutus 203?
Was this for me..?
Yup, discord is high so didn't reply
Future-proofing ofc. It's not bad. A bit too early but still not that bad
Ah thanks, what do you mean why is Brutus 203?
Because even at 37 you wont "need" 203 brutus, mabe 003 . And 303 nara yo

I don’t know what any of that means
I’m guessing you mean signature item, in that case Brutus is 20 from when he was my main tank a while ago, and Nara is 30 idk
“203” “303” “003” never heard of that @digital skiff
+20 3/3
+30 3/3
+0 3/3
Ahhh
I can’t really control how much mythic furniture I get for a character at least I don’t think
You can tho
I mean.. with the wishlist? That’s still rng
You can literally see if you have 3/3 furn in your bag and then swap the hero out

I don’t know what you mean
You can control exactly how many furn you get for a hero
For general use (balloon, peaks of time, etc) what “main” lineup would you recommend?
I’ve been mostly using this.
help with this one?
Any ideas?
Swinging back here for help 
Show box
Daimon
Bruhtus
Rowan
Joker
Lyca
AAAM oden shits
Try:
Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Hogan
Daimon
need some help 16-40
Switch Lyca and new guy and drop Lyca for Nara/Eironn
Didnt work
🤷♂️ at ur stage of the game u just have to try different stuff multiple times. If it doesn't work after 15+ retries just try again another day
yeah 16 is rough 😭

any tips?
Do you have Brutus? I always liked having Brutus for an easy front row hold. I also tend to not use Rowan with ainz as I want him to use his 15 second nuke thing before his ult.
Ainz
Arthur
Albedo
Brutus
Merlin
Ill try this a few times thanks!
I passed through there a week or so ago. My main carry is ainz and albedo setup. So what I mentioned to u is what I used minus Merlin as I don't have yet. I prob used farael or grez or something in place of Merlin on my run
can someone look at all my heroes and help me come up wiht a better comp then i already have?
like this?
Give it a try
got popped 😭
shall i make a full team of the same faction?
Any ideas?
worth making a fill team of the same faction?
do you have nara?
if you do you can use her to pull in isabella and your team should have enough damage to kill the rest
Any team suggestions
Try
Daimon
Treznor
Silas
Brutus
Oden
Ok
Fucking hell, Isabella still shredded me
Can someone configure this team so it’ll work?
Cause raku mehira is a good team ik that
Get mehira higher ascension
You may have to go
Fereal
Treznor
Eironn
Brutus
Daimon
WELL LUCRETIA also mehira works just fine as e
^
Didn't work :/
Does Rowan ult in time?
He gets to an ult but after mehira
If you have Nara, replace her with eironn, keep retrying
You may have to
Raku
Rowan
Mehira
Brutus
Lyca
Im sure you already tried that but idk
Issue with that is that raku dies instantly
Oh yeah cause my raku has no gear… oops
Alr I got it
what would be a good team for PVE?
swap lyca and raku ?
raku might use rowan pot before mehira
and i don't think you want to charm a brutus stage 
Not only brutus. Theres tasi
yea 
those worse enemy for charm 
I got it Alr
Like 3 hrs ago… and I’m currently getting rekt by an athalia
Looking for some suggestions at changes on lineup- stuck on 15-40. Usually use some version of that lineup but happy to change heroes on crystal or something
Can someone help me out with this?
You do know guilds don't want to be leaking strats this early for the guild coins thing? Just have another guildie do it for you, you don't need to clear at high deficit if another guildie does it
Hello, been quite a few months since i played this game, Last time i was here i was told to focus on getting acsended heroes instead of stars (which i'll work on) and i have a swap scroll, so any advice would be good
Help with what ?
I think getting Rowan to +30 would be really good
Can someone help me out? (14-38)
Anyone have any tips for lineups and who I should focus on?
I've been stuck on this shit for a while
Sicilia
-------Brutus
Farael
-------Lyca
New Hero
Which one is sicilia again?
read the beginners guide pinned in #classic-questions, the long one by tree3 will also give you an idea of what to use for a while
also looks like you've been reading old guides based on that box
Not really, I'm just getting desperate because I'm not getting the heroes that I need
That's what the wishlist is for
and your seems to be malformed
I know, I'm using wishlist
Has to be for good heroes though
you're also wasting fodder, you have 2 legendary antandras
all the legendary units you can make L+ are wasted fodder, ontop of your seemingly outdated wishlist
set your wishlist to the one in the pins in #classic-questions, it'll take a while to fix your box but you're early enough to considering restarting if you dont want to wait
I can get anatandra to mythic if I buy her from challenger
you can reset one of your legendary antandras for the same effect, also dont buy 4f heroes from those stores
Wukong
I know u
Who are you?
i did
We’ll then just play the game u don’t need any line up help u have like 3 heroes
Ss my alt then
i had so many duplicates so i put them into rare
Yeah nice
uh what supposrt do i have and what to upgrade
Maybe try
Eironn
Treznor
Daimon
Brutus
Lyca
Why pinging me :/
Oh mb lol, I thought you were looking for help at first but you were helping someone 
Any ideas?
Stuck on stage 7-40, open to any suggestions/form
look at the pins in #classic-questions their are beginner guides and other useful information
are you aware of the mehira rowan charm team?
Ainz
Daimon/Raku/Rowan/Mehira/Lyca/tasi
Positioning like
Daimon
Rowan
Mehira
Lyca or Tasi
Raku
Could somebody help in 32-56
The heroes with x are the ones that were already used in fight 1
did i upgrad ehte wrong fodder
theres no such thing as a wrong fodder
Arden mirael Golus and the rest don’t matter
How should I beat this killing 2 backline?
i did it with gwyn middle back and ezio
does this apply to every hero
only the heroes in that union
is zaph still worth building for pvp or is he out ??
24 hours of hero exp 96 hours of gold or 24 hrs of dust and #classic-questions
Super late replying but tyvm. Worked for the stage and seems solid in general. Appreciate it!
Any ideas?
hook that mehira before she release those bat to reduce threat (with nara)
Ahrhvunehei stupid Athalia and Mirael
Any ideas
merc a 309 gwyneth, put her in the middle
done in first try 
Maybe
Titus
------Brutus
Satrana
------Anoki
Totem Dude
Nope they get insta rekeyed. I don’t think my guys are ascended enough. Or it’s just cause my rng on skeg is garbage
need help raku dies soo fast
How do I beat this level without merc
With Daimon it’s important his shield stays up otherwise his attack rating will be terrible. Don’t put him opposite Athalia. Try swapping him with prince of Persia and giving prince of Persia the best gear you can do he can dodge her a little
You would then need to swap Rowan also, so that his potions can reach dakmon
Ferael opposite Athalia is also a solution used
Actually I apologize. Trying to dodge Athalia might not work well with enemy Brutus on the field. His roar prevents your heroes from dodging.
If that Athalia is killing your heroes too fast, you might even consider putting your own Brutus opposite her
Or just be like me. Rowan against athalia, ferael without weapon will stop brutus roar if he can fear him. Then eironn ult to freeze some dude. After that ainz TGOALID shuts em up
up huhu
i used
fereal (no weapon)
thoran
brutus
si 30 rowan
daimon
rc 220
in that exact order?
If u got your top 5 to 200 u would do a lot better
I’m trying to do this cheese but isn’t it supposed to be working?
yea
@stiff sandal run it normal speed and see what seems to be the issue. Not enough dmg on seirus?
hello!! i’m really, really new to this game and i’m stuck on 5-32… are there any characters i should invest in?
- what characters should i add to my lineup
can you record it ?
Having trouble with 30-44. Keep getting whupped. Thankful for any assistance. Thank you.
Iny ideas?
What si is Arthur at?
Less than 10
Only 1,just got him
Okay that kinda ruined my plans…
@next pewter rowan, brutus, daimon, fera, lyca? call on rowan and daimon.
What si did u want him to be?
give this a try:
brutus
lyca
ferael
thoran
daimon
any advices on this? every other fight is working, just this thoran is not after 1-2 hours of retries
maybe stop nara from using her bat somehow ? 
i doubt that lorsan link you help thoran kill mehira 
Prob 20
@rigid imp that is a nara in pos 5 
i just copied the comps. i also tried lorsan in position 1
eh
i'm blind sorry 
with lyca on 3
some use eye for thoran some call, i tried both too
usually its the mehira comp which takes the most retries
but in this case its the thoran for me
now i see that at least ulmus always survivey
and they dont do enough dmg so thoran couldt reflect it on them to kill them
Is there a place people post boss lineups for cursed realm?
What's the best comp to counter Ainz+Ezio? Been trying many but can't beat it. Able to beat all other Ainz comps but this one. Any suggs?
maybe ainz+ezio them back ? 
and i think desira is better than rowan too
Dont have Ezio unfortunately
then i think you want to wait for someone have experience with pvp because i'm suck at this 
Require help, can't defeat this bastard for some reason
hmmm, try, wukong, rowan, gwyn, eirron, tasi. in that order
or eironn on position 5 and tasi position 4
Any tips, kelthur is being a little ||shit|| and is roasting me
Got crushed
I would maybe try Rowan position 2 and try switching around position 4 for Raine/Hendrik/belinda?
Also got crushed
damm, just no idea how Treznor works atm. maybe just swtich up from what you sent on the pic, put Gwyn position 3, tasi position 5 and switch position 1 and 2
Nah think I'm just gonna let them afk cuz at the moment they're just too weak to face him i think
Am also stuck on this account, got any advise for this one?
Impossible stage for me to beat currently. Afkhelper also doesn't help :/. Not sure what to do. Afk 2-3 months and overpower this stage power?
Brutus, Estrilda, Desira, Belinda, Treznor - trying to read on Treznor now, he launches across the field to the highest attack rating enemy and stuns everyone his path, gotta use that to your advantage
Kk
yea you got a massive deficit at that point, can be an issue. need to try out a lot to see what works
I would try: Alna, Daimon, Oden/treznor, tasi/silas/rowan, brutus
alna rowan daimon oden brutus
lmk if it works
I got my highest damage with this lineup. Any suggestions?
Included is my abex force
I think that 1st line up will be ur highest dmg. Second could be Saurus, Rosaline, Belinda, Raine, and a healer
3rd could be a combo with Izold
depending on ur tree also
Talene, wukong, Treznor, Tasi, Pippa/leonardo/Lyca would be my best best
in that order
let me know if it works
Talene is beautiful
she's very good all the way to the end of the game, always keep her up
kk
Dont stargaze for Talene
try just switching places in these cases, talene with wukong, and lyca with Treznor
Can I get some help setting up some formations?
how do you farm hero exp cause im underleved
It takes time
In campain ur always underleveled
that's why it's called Afk Arena, just time 😅 or spending a lot of money hahaha
you might have a fun interesting comp there:
talene, rowan, tasi, rosaline, oden
hm what should i spend my rare heroes on
those are just for leveling up main heroes
So if you go to Heroes -> Portraits, look at the list of the heroes all the way in the bottom below the title "legendary tier heroes" these heroes you just use them to level up between each other, and later you use those to level up any of the heroes above that list
did ya try Ainz instead of Daimon?
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan (if he survives long enough)
Lyca/ treznor
Fereal/ oden
Any ideas?
The final stage to this godforsaken chapter 
Maybe Rowan, Brutus, Oden, Daimon, Nara
It worked! Thank u 
Welcome
Tried, didn't work.
@granite swan Tried them as well, didn't work :(. Gonna be stuck for a long time because I'm not getting many diamonds as well per day. All goes to 2x store refreshes and fast rewards.
Any tips? I wanna get to 140 before the reset
Don’t waste diamonds on store refreshes and such. Use some of your items if you have too that’s a big waste of diamonds. You will get past it eventually, I was stuck for 3 weeks once. Just gotta keep trying and need patience
Pins recommend players to use diamonds on store refreshes and such tho?
Help with this one?
I think that’s if your a high spender. I personally wouldn’t recommend it as you could be using those diamonds to help ascend your hero’s to beat that level your stuck on
hmm, makes sense 🤔
Once you start ch 24 you can start doing the store 2x refresh
That will lower my dust income tho if I do that 👀. Levels are important, no?
Having higher hero’s are more important than levels. Levels make a small impact without ascending
I’m on ch 29 and I still haven’t done the x2 shop yet since I focused on my hero’s and I don’t need to now
By higher hero's, do you mean more ascended hero's?
Having more ascended is definitely a +, more elder tree, rc level cap, HCP chances
Yes and no. Not generally more but your core hero’s is what your trying to focus on
Daimon is my core hero but nothing to do to make him ever more stronger. I don't even have engraving option but I heard that Daimon engraving isn't that good anyway and should be a low priority. Odens engraving better they say.
I'll save diamonds for 10x pulls then if that's okay? I need lots of fodders to A heroes
What's RC?
Daimon engrave is trash. He’s my carry also. Once he gets to M +30 him and oden
I have Daimon A, +20, Oden A +10, Rowan M+, need 2 pieces more for A and +19
Do not engrave Daimon
I won't
Get Rowan 30+ asap
Working on it. Didn't get lucky in store refreshes to get the golden emblem
Also where am I going to get more red chests? 👀
New event next
U can get 160 red chests f2p
Not enough to get Rowan +30 from +20 but it's good anyways 😄
Use red chests on the ambysll thing pass and it’s easy chests
Sounds good
Use Mirael as carry, she's good and gets better at when all skills of her as maxed, especially her ultimate and that AOE explosion of her fireball skill. You can use Rosaline to help Mirael performance and even give lots of energy for Mirael to go back to back ultimates. Gwyneth is good but not as good as Mirael 👀.
Make sure to read the pins as well, they are super helpful and big tip: Never ascend hero to Legendary when you don't have another E+ copy to go Legendary+ immediately.
My English is terrible. I understood the 1st message and now I am trying to understand the 2nd
This is E champion, right?
This is E+?
Yup
I need 3 E+ to get 1 Legendary+?
You need 1 E+ to get 1 Legendary+
Now i have 1E+ and 1E
That's good, you'll get that another E+ fast
I recommend you to go to #classic-questions channel and ask whatever questions you want but people may tell you to read the pins because all information is there. If you do not understand something or needs explanation, feel free to ask in #classic-questions.
Ok, thanks. I think i understand all :3
You may even ask that same question you had from your screenshot about your heroes and see what people will tell you 🙂
everyone should be doing fast rewards and shop refreshes past a certain point, RC levels are one of the more important things in the game, among the other resources gained from these diamond expenditures.
I do 5 fast rewards everyday and partial store refreshes pending my gold situation. It has been doing me well so far and a 2month player
can anyone help me with an early game lineup?
@terse spindle sure
What are RC again lmao
resonating crystal levels
Ohh right.
@stable ember slot that brutus in. At 141 he gets 7 secs immunity. Put him in front of kaz so he roars in front of her face for undodgeable physical dmg.
Ty!
Also naraing the mehira doesn’t work cause thoran
Oh sht that amount of stamina
^^^^
Don't go in #902721328744902736 , ok
Did u try 5pull lucy alrdy?
Oh my lord..
Ok..
Try this
3 Cecilia
1 Lucretia
4 Some celerity hero
2 merlin
5 Some celerity hero
If u dont have more cel heroes .
Try to put ainz and satrana
Guys i need help i cant get past this im too noob. Would appreciate any help given
Wilders are lacking, any advice?
Any ideas for the stage?
ainz without albedo 30 is suck, you should get albedo too
U might need to wait till ur heroes r better
That's a lot of legendary heroes
Can you reset that lucius and wukong levels and pump to your top 5
Not +30
your level might not be enough, but Grezhul/Daimon/Panda Man/Ainz/Oden
I’m actually a very low deficit pusher and raku is a raccoon
I'm trying man ;-;
Ainz and grez are bonded
strike the grez then, saurus
Uhh saurus is quite useless
Except in bosses
you want to survive the gb. wait he isn't a healer yet nvm
I have his +20 not +30
I believe the furniture helps as well
with survivability
sorry, I forget about furniture sometimes
Wait @pale kettle have you tried raku charm? If so, does enemy mehira kill basically everyone without being cc-d with her bats
Yeah mehira just dies
Lyca
Treznor/Grez/Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Nara
Maybe not sure tho
@tight juniper
Nara kinda does a thing call die by thoran
I don’t have treznor anymore sadnesss
hee gone :(
Could try to eironn Mehira but it may not do much without the cc
Oh, she gets killed because of Nara. Lyca gets tainted. Try switching both lyca and Brutus position?
Kk
Smth saps her energy
Nara...
try Ferael (make him able to stun faster and hopefully he doesn't get one shot) Rowan, Brutus, Oden, and Daimon.
I can see the sarcasm
I also think it’s Arden roots too

Make sure Fera stuns him
Close enough
So uh...my team is Daimon, Lucius, Rowan, Morrow and Lucius and I've put a lot of work into my Lucius so it's hard to let go of him. Thing is, he's starting to fall off and I don't know who to replace him with in my line up
Pretty much lots of heroes. Lyca, Ferael, Tasi...
Wait I said Lucius twice. I meant I have Farael on that line up as well
I have Lyca and Tasi but that means I don't have 2 tanks in front
Thoran for now can be a tank. You don't usually need 2 tanks, it makes it easier tho.
Ah, I can use Thoran, great idea. Only issue is that I don't have him 309 like I do Lucius
Nor do I have Tier 3 armor for him
Well that's fine. He doesn't need to have T3 and Thoran can be at +0 or +30 so that's fine.
Oh? Okay, doesn't sound too bad then. I just heard that Thoran seems to need his furniture and sig weapon max to be great. Thanks for debunking that
He needs those for Thoran Cheese which is a late game team, what chapter are you in?
Not debunking. If you can to use Thoran cheese for campaign, you need his +30. 3f helps him and 9f helps even more if you don't have 5* call. For now, Thoran can be a tank.
Chapter 32
Also thanks for the info
I'll probably end up working on his sig weapon when I finish Rosaline's
Either him or Silas
Her*
Rosaline +30 isn't prio, stopping her at +20 is fine.
+20 is also fine. +30 is later as you'll find more higher prios.
Now I wanna ask about all my units lmao would you be willing to give than info? Wouldn't be one at a time but a list of them
Sure
Belinda: 5*, Sig: 28
Silas: 5*, sig: 21
Ainz: 5*, sig: 20
Rosalina: 4*, sig: 29
Tasi: 3*, sig: 22
Anoki: 1*, sig: 17
Satrana: 2*, sig: 12
Thoran: 1*, sig: 20
Hendrik: 1*, sig: 15
Fawkes: Ascended, sig: 16
Lyca: Ascended, sig: 15
Sauras: M+, Sig: 20
Just show your heroes as it's more easier. Dont work on everyone's sig at the same. Like get one hero to si 20 then another one to 20. Lyca 20 is a nice suggestion.
Lucius, Farael, Daimon, Rowan and Morrow are +30. Not sure aside from Rowan, Daimon and Farael if Morrow and Lucius was a good choice and I'll send an SS of my characters real quick
I heard Arthur isn't very good for campaign, only really PvP. Maybe swap him
Someone with better knowledge may say otherwise though
Both aren't good +30. Morrow is good but he's fine at 209. Def Lyca 20 to work on. Arthur is fine at campaign as he's a nice tank.
He is currently the one that Tanks Tons of damage for me
Arthur Rowan, Daimon/Ainz depending on your carries, Brutus. And Merlin. If you want to, Arthur, Merlin, Daimon, Rowan, and Ferael.
Is Ainz just not worth using? Cuz he is the only one that currently enables me to progress since the enemies have double my Power in campaign
Well you can use Ainz but Ainz and Daimon don't necessarily work together. Daimon is a strong carry, especially since you don't have 9f on Ainz. You can use him if you want to. 🤷♂️
Used Daimon early on but dropped him since I didn't get him above Legendary since I didn't get any copies. Currently Ainz is doing like 3-4 times his damage so I'm not sure if I want to replace him
Will if you seem to do better than Daimon, then you can just use Ainz only. Make sure you eventually garrison Albedo and get her +30 to buff Ainz more.
Can't use Brutus since he is legit just Elite even tho I had him on my wishlist since the beginning... Ferael would also be Mithic+ if I raise him
That's fine, he is just there to stall Athalia.
Yeah im getting her as soon as I got enough resources
Ah yeah reasonable
Seeing my hero line up, would you still recommend Thoran as a replacement for Lucius @tight juniper
He’s working great for me at ch 34 with ainz
thanks
Around a 210+ deficit he tends to due way to easy without 30 and T3
Can't speak of what deficit he can survive after 303 4T3
Thanks just replacing him with Rowan and it was done second try
I’ve tried this stage over 200 times; including leveling twice since I got here.
Beating this will unlock t3 stones so I guess it’s an intentional wall. Any suggestions?
I’ve tried rearranging them and swapping in all kinds of different things (including Nara to disrupt Safiya)
Hi guys ! Is there somenone here who I can add in order to borrow Albedo for a month ?
just use the #mercenary channel
Yeah thanks someone told me to do that too. I didn't that that channel existed
Hey pals any tips, whatever I put or whomever I stun the whole team gets blown up
(this was an experimental formation, usually got Thoran Infront
nvm found a layout
Hey yall! I need some advice been away from the game to long and started again with a new acc, have any tips for the beginning?
Still need 2 decent tanks
who should I replace for Brutus?
team is wukong, lucius, mirael+, leonardo and treznor
Should I reroll
No daimon, oden, and fereal are super good
Ok thx
@lunar skiff focus on leveling wukong first. Lvl him as high as you can. Then lvl the rest of your heroes, max 4, preferably fodder tier heroes
who should i replace with wukong?
Either thane, or solise perhaps
yeah, i've been trying to look for a hero to replace that slot, thane looked like he wasn't doing as much dmg as the others but i wasn't so sure
There's a beginners guide pinned on #classic-questions . You should take a glance into it
thanks for the recommendation, i'll take a look rn 👍
Oden/ferael
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Daimon
Make sure daimon is your highest level if possible, shem falls off really quickly. Also stop progressing brutus, he can stay at E+ basically forever (I'm still using him E+ at ch31)
alright thank you im tryna get more copies
@pale kettle eironn should be always middle at 5x pull, now I would use gorvo for example, instead of tasi, to shield eironn
Gorvo is only +20 Mythic. Still useable? And yes, Eironn should be middle, that's after me switching around formations trying to get things to work. @brave oriole
Hi all, need universal party for pve. I think i need swap mirael, but idk whom to put on her place
For the most part my 5 pull is king, and my Ainz comp can win, it's the other two comps.
Yeah, should be okay. Ainz team it's not pretty, try using rowan front for example, and If you have Mortas e, would work with ainz team. I would 5x pull this ezizh team
U need one more dim for ainz team, Arthur would be great 
More dims the better for albedo correct? I put Arthur in another team just to help it out - as I said, that Ainz team works and so does my 5 pull, it's the other two I'm having issues with.
Hopefully somebody with experience can scramble my champs and give me a good solution for this stage
Well, for r4, I would use nara to cc safiya or athalia, for r3, u need ferael
R4 - nara across safe, R3, farael, and in Ainz comp I should replace farael for numiso?
@brave oriole
Sorry to be bugging you.
@pale kettle doesn't matter much, ainz always win, do you have Mortas?
U can use gwyn for example, with ainz
Yeah, with call and some mythic gear, should be okay Backline
And who could I replace that to help my other 2 lineups?, as I said, my Ainz + 5 pull win everytime - it's the other two who are hurting me.
Waiting for 2 oden copies, waiting for fodder for Gorvo, or else I could make room for portal party.
Also sorry for pounding you with questions hah
Well, at your deficit, luc should easy win the last fight, try to get her full t3. Now, for r3, try to use Brutus grez, ferael daimon and tasi
My guess is that your issue it's lacking gear or so
My Luc is missing one piece for t3, and also +29. Still worthy?
Ahh yeah gear is also a huge issue, I have over 40 reset scrolls, but they don't go to Luc or dimensionals.
Don't go to what? Hypogean? They should, with max 5 scrolls or so
Ah, just looked. They go to hypos, not dimensionsls.
Yeah, the dim gear it's only available in guild shop, on the last line
Alright, I'll take your advice and use my scrolls to get Luc her last piece of armor.
Alright - took me 4 resets haha.
Any ideas on how to beat that stage?
Have you tried Rowan frontline, to give daimon more time? @gray skiff
She dies really fast tho
Rowan in daimons spot even?
Yep just tried it and got melted haha
Maybe it's too early to have Rowan frontline.
Have you tried winning?
That was the only suggestion I had haha
Rowan Frontline is only if he have good gear.
Ok nevermind I got it hahaha I put daimon back and then rowan infront then swapped thoran and rowan thanks @pale kettle
hah np, as he said Rowan frontline is only if he has great gear, t2+ si 30, he was my first max hero, and carried me a long way.
max SI, not furniture.
Haha I got unlucky I only got one copy of him so far
there's always the 3k champ select pulls. however, there are better champs i'm sure you should go for. i'm in here asking for advice, these fellas know better. i'd go to #classic-questions and ask where you should pivot your account.
Okay thanks man!
yep, good luck buddy. hopefully you'll learn before I do, i'm a little over a year into the game still learning. just recently started using this discord asking for help!
Any suggestions on how to make this team have a better chance to with this
Or you could help me make a formation just the x’s are for second team
Any ideas?
Try using an ainz daimon team for that. You need a lot of damage fast. Also why do you have so many mythics?
We don’t have to talk about that
Just an example of how much dmg ainz does
Send me ur friend code and see what I used cause I don’t remember
U might have to use a merc
need help my raku just dies
Make Oden +30 and u have another carry
3 star windbinder on mehira really helps a lot
I know
i mean i didnt expect the extra 50 energy instantly ults
Try Oden for Lyca
how about here?
Grezhul, Rowan, Brutus, Oden, Daimon
Any ideas? I’m stuck for quite some time now 
Put nara on bow man
It prob because your carry shimera is in the frontline
Hey! I'm running Eironn-Safiya comp with :
Rowan Tasi - Lyca Eironn Safiya
And i would like to know how to proceed for Engraving.
I don't find answer on Internet if it's not character by character and separately they are not quite efficient for Engraving.
What do you think?
Engravings are expensive and cannot be reversed (so far) so you have to proceed with caution.
None of those heroes that you've mentioned are a priority afaik. So keep those cores in the meantime
@frozen mango
NANI
You got an e+ daimon. Use him as your carry. Follow the leveling recommendations in the ss above
Get everyone to 160 first
first get daimon to 180/200 (i would fodder shemira) and get ur fodder to 160. Then ascending tasi and gwenyth is fine
In the meantime you might get more copies of heroes and it can shake priorities
What shood i do when i cant lvl up my heroes
I think so. It's a bit tough to ascend anything without risk for now as you are still missing some heroes copies
Though I do agree with you that Tasi will likely be a good pick for ascension.
No such thing as fodder hero cap. You can make plenty of L+ fodders as much as you can
I would not do Gwyneth though, rather keep fodders for lightbearer for whether Rowan (ideally) or Rosaline (2nd choice)
You'll have to do it sometimes unfortunately. I have reached 225 max now (chapter 37)
Yes Gwyneth will not help your comp with Daimon
Paying for bag space is priceless. The peace of mind it brings is just good.
For your Wilders, Tasi seems like a safe choice to me. She's super useful early game and gives great cc
But before taking any decision, wait to be level capped at 160 :)
Saurus is very low prio, rather do Lyca Tasi Eironn Raku Mishka...
I myself still have not Ascended Saurus
She is amazing up until 37-38. So definitely amazing hero to ascend
She finds less use afterwards in late campaign. But she was in all my comps until 36 at least. + She needs a small investment to be good.
I think she was by the way my first ascended hero before Daimon
Though @soft solar this L+ Shemira is a mistake. Not too serious though, I would personally fodder her into Daimon
Yeah it's been a while she's not considered good anymore
For guides, only check in Discord. It's genuinely the only up-to-date guides
I perso foddered Shemira into Grezhul. So I reckon you can feed her to your Daimon
Pins in #classic-questions
There is a beginner guide which is neat
You are welcome! HF
@frozen mango reset that skriath, thane, zikis, thorne, and I can't see the 5th one
There
Reset that zikis, skriath, thane, and thorne. Pump those lvls to daimon until you can't lvl him up anymore.
I dont have thorne
You do. Just... These heroes that are encircled. Reset them
I rly dont know how to reset cuz i new to the game
Gimme a minute. I'm on mobile
Ah crap forgot to edit.
Anyway, Rickety Cart on bottom right of the screen
Can i put my Hero List in here and get help how to linup best? 😄
If it's for a specific stage, yes. If it's in general, or pvp, uhh, there'd be more active people on #classic-questions so ig it would be better there
thank you
And i did it what now????
What lvl is daimon now? 120?
Any ideas?
How do u see it
Do i just lvl hero up or what
@frozen mango yes lvl him up
Cmon man. At least check your heroes and their names. You can click on them on their portraits. It will be easier to guide you that way
Bruh you gotta be trolling
No rly i cant i dont rly pai attention
Send me screenshot or tell me how to see heros name
Heroes tab > Portraits
Click on their pictures. You'll see their names, their class, equipments, etc.
Look for daimon
Any ideas?
Should I reroll
Naa
Ok
Positions are correct ? Who is gonna ult ?
grez then twins iirc
@cursive light 5x twins, then everyone at <10secs
Brutus, Rowan, Daimon, Tasi, Nara
Ty!
I Garrioned an Ainz and linked him to a Lv120, and I have all the recommended Graveborns on wishlist at Lv100 via RC, are there any potential improvements to make for my comp? Currently running Ainz as carry, Grezhul and Thoran FL, with Oden and Silas for Backline
@warm swan
drop the ainz carry and just use mirael or daimon
Genuinely bad idea, should've saved the resources for vinci. Ainz is practically useless without his signature item at Mythic. Use mirael backmid with daimon and oden. Frontline should be hogan/thoran and golus
@warm yew Sorry the Overlord superfan in me couldn't resist
Also do I not need a healer? Silas seems to have helped me a ton when the difficulty started ramping up for me
Are there any other units I have that are better off in RC?
Silas op
Just tested the comp you recommended, Golus and Thoran stalled for long but once one of them died the entire team crumbled, I kinda miss Silas. Either that or I don't have enough damage since I don't feel like Mirael's Ult is doing anything
Afk helper not helping?
Wdym?
It's a website
Yeah it tells you what formations others have used to beat the stage
Just Google afk helper
Or just check the pins here.
Yo it really isnt helping most of them us daimon which i still font have :(
Go get him. In the meantime try rosaline and rowan instead of nemora and mishika
Sure
Afk helper not helping?
Make nara grab mereal
Any help with this fight? Do I have to just keep spamming and get lucky?
New to game just wondering if this is a good starter line up or if I’m messing up already
@gleaming cargo the only way to screw up at the start is to make too many legendary heroes. Just focus on getting one of each faction to ascended. Any comp can work at the start.
@gleaming cargo you might want to look at some recommended heros for your wishlist as well. You dont need to follow it 100% and can always add personal favorites. But if you only take non meta heros you might be in for a rough time.
I did that and this is my new line up can’t believe I pulled Damian on my first pack opening
Build up wukong also, he will help a ton in the early chapters, once he reaches lvl 100 he will start to worsen tho
Oh I thought you go all in damian the guide I read is 1 carry 1 tank 3 support
Well wukong is just a beast early game
Once he falls off you can go all in on daimon
Aw ok so don’t go all in Damian go half and half with Damian wukong?
Yeah it would prob be better to invest a little more into someone else besides just one leveled hero so it’s not just them getting bashed in
The thoran will be a decent tank early game also, Arden can provide some good cc for your team also
The last slot probably doesn’t matter since it’s such early chapters
That’s fair I’ll just focus level wukong/Damian
Also move daimon away from the Ogi, his slam can do some damage, put thoran in front of him to take the blow
Like that? Damian in the back?
Wait i know what you mean
Keep Damian away from the tanks basically switch thoran and Damian in that situation
Mostly keep him away from the big damage dealers so he doesn’t die early and can actually ult to kill everyone
So I’m new to the game is that information something I just pick up as I go or is there a way to read them before I hit battle?
Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
You just kinda understand it as you play more
I’m not going read a million guides for an issue I didn’t even know about I read the beginners guid I’m just trying to play maze told me about something I didn’t know about so I just asked him a very simple question he could answer in less than 9 words besides me having to read through all the pinned guides rn I’m just trying get the basics which I have now I’ll read the guides about combat when I start to struggle with the game
Then just push campain
guys can someone help please? i need to complete chapter 13 within 8 days for a task but i vant get past 12. Can someone make me a nice team/give me advices pls
ooh good luck with the task, it should be fine. You have an ascended shemira, which is.....good and bad. It's good because shem is decent at carrying early game. Bad cause you need to build daimon later. Here's a temp team that you can use to hit chap 14 first:
arden
shem
rosaline
lucius
daimon
make rosaline follow shem.
But for later, you must switch to building graveborns. Try reading up the guides in pins in #classic-questions
If you ever need help with a specific stage, dm me, I can usually respond within 2 hours
tysm!!
np!
last question sorry. I just tried it and its so good but what is arden supposed to do? i mean i dont see him heal or do any dmg idk
no worries, you can ask as much as you want. The setup I gave is an old one, arden is there for cc, he traps people with his vines
oh ok tysm!
np! daimon/lucius can be subbed out for brutus, and shemira can be moved to backline!
im taking daimon to legendary very soon
Any ideas? With thoran and luc cheese, Brutus is last alive and kills them in his passive
@gaunt dragon tried barricade for luc?
Hi I'm very early and I wanted to ask can I do a line up with Damion And eirron? Since I have both and I can't choose between them x)
depends what chapter u are
but try this
fereal
thoran
eirron
brutus
daimon
I'm chapter like 2 or 3 😂😂
I started the game yesterday, and I saw that both are like the best of the best main carry oki i Will remember that team, can that team go till late game?
Yeah
@gaunt dragon double barricade then? 
But seriously, something like zol, brutus, flex, rowan, luc.
Ight lemme try
@fresh raven Or merc a 9/9 nem and put her in front of eironn. Or thoran cheese
Lineup worked eventually. Just needed rng ty tho!
Merc a fat belinda and rng
And do I just place supports and tanks for the rest of my lineup?
Iirc, u basically just group everyone together for belinda to ult on them. Its pretty rng heavy and really nasty but it works. And i remember the backline being lvl1 or something, follow it
You NEED the backline to DIE instantly here
Can someone help me with an arena team? I went to bed ranking 14th and woke up back in the 70s yesterday because my team was fragile
@stable ember I use a similar comp. Try putting rowan in front, with Daimon behind Thoran. It’ll help Daimon perform a bit better, especially if he has SI built up
Ty. Yeah, my daimon is si20
It’s either because whales or people who pushed harder and therefore have more levels then you. This is assuming you’re on a newer season
Can someone help me, been stuck on this for over a week
@sick pawn pvp is mostly dominated by spenders. I won't focus on it too much unless you are spending and are far in campaign
Maybe
Gwinyth
-------Horse Lady
Rowan
-------Hendrik
Cecilia
@safe ridge pick your poison
@warm swan I dont have morrow(I have 3 mercs already as well), and I've tried the 2nd comp but kelthur just roasts everyone
Yeah idek how that gwyn was able to carry the fight given that talene and kelthur is not gonna stay at the backline. If you've been stuck there for a week, you could've allocated a merc space for that stage 
How are people beating LB Tower - 436: I follow lineup help but have no luck:
@warm swan one of my mercs is a gwyn for that, but it's just not working
I got nothing else for you, sorry. That gwyn clear is the lowest I can see from my side followed by my morrow clear
A LOT of retries, it was an awful stage
It doesn't get any better after that anyway
Thanks, got my macro running, will leave it all day and hopefully I pass 🙂
@warm swan I was actually able to get it
With a gwyn? Nice! Gz
I got it around rc 465
I can't beat them, any tips?
You need 1 mo cc Try to borrow ferael and put rowan as tank and daimon backline
Put Rowan closer to Daimon for starters, he's not getting the energy potion when he's that far away
Like this
And he still gets the energy
That would work yeah
I can't do anything I can't prevent Silvina from jumping on Daimon and instantly killing him
Try replacing Nara with a mage, Safiya for example
Silvina always prioritises the weakest mage, if one is on the field, or the lowest defense unit if not
Surprised she goes for Daimon at all, I'd assume Nara would be weaker as well
She goes for Rowan but then jumps daimon and kill him instantly
And Daimon doesn't do enough of damage at all to kill them
Shi nvm I beat
Hehe, rng can be a bit swingy with daimon yeah, retries help a lot sometimes
Throw out Oden and add Arden instead
Arden is incredible up until around level 160 or so, his CC is huge
Oh I thought oden would be better since he shuts off enemies ults early
He will be, eventually, but that's not relevant enough quite yet at that stage of the game
Fair ok
And arden effectively does the same, since he just locks down up to three units entirely
Is arden in the back middle a good idea or is my formation wrong?
That formation is OK for now, Arden is better at the backline yeah
I can’t believe my luck with pulling 2 damiens tbh
Find two more and you're good to go for the rest of the entire damn midgame 😉
I still don’t know how I feel about ferael tbh
Try playing game more :/
Any suggestions?
he’s op trust me
Can I get some help please
Vurk, khasos and golus always survive
How to beat this level?
Brutus, PoP, Daimon, Rowan, Nara
What do we think gang
allright, guys, I need your help. I need to do 3 teams with this. Assuming I can have albedo + Merlin.
I'm getting stuck in the 33rd chapter, when you need to fight against 3 teams to go higher...
I need help I started yesterday and I’m stuck on like 5-35 I guys got any good decks for early game.
help
Just got to chapter 4, who shall I focus on using and which position
who should i focus on lvling? I just got a legendary thane that i dont use, but should i reconsider?
first thing is: don't use you fodder heroes until you need to. In the beginning this means, only use fodder heroes, if you can immediately upgrade to Legendary+ (i.e. if you have 4 copies)
is grezhul a fodder hero?
how team can i make for level 150 ?
nope, fodder heroes are the ones that you get as blue colored heroes
Grezhul is one of the better heroes in the game actually
What team should I use? Im on chapter 4 stage 1
is this a good lineup for early game?
ah I see, thx for the help
Anyone got some ideas for a formation?
Scroll swap my shemira 2* sig level 24 to Rowan or ezizh? I’m tempted to to ezizh as he’s going to be more of a pain to ascend than Rowan
Whats the best wrizz comp
yes you still dont know yet until you'll faced against mages at deficits, don't expect him to be your carry because he is one of the best distruptors in the game
none
LB lineup
Put gwyn center and make Rosa follow gwyn, shroud on gwyn
rip. LB tower just ended 😄
Well when it opens that's all you have to do
Okay, what should my gwyn investment be? Do I need +20 or something better?
Got 3/9 on her
103, not really worth a 20 at those stages, getting morrow 20 is a better use of resources
Ideas on this stage? (or dealing with Isabella in general? Stages with her decimate my daimon)
Thoran skreg daimon rowan gwyn should make it @stable ember
Daimon prince oden eironn estrilda @whole smelt
Good but you may lack some damage against certain stages
The ezio is not needed. I put him in for Fbonus
I don't have queen either
Do you have full pic?
Yeah one sec
Because r2 is ball breaking to cheese
How much of an impact is that +30 kren in the ainz comp?
Not that much.
I can’t remember, I think I deadass put random things together lol
Shouldnt be anything crazy
Kren is just there to push enemy back, thats a comp i used back in 32 before
Is thoran furn good
Yes. 3/9 is meh, 9/9 is borderline required for later chap37+
Thanks
Six seconds into that first comp
Looks good
Rng 

I'm in a shitty mood, thought sure lets push campaign take my mind off it
Its not even rng. This dude dint even cancel mehira's bat
Making me wanna slit my wrists even quicker
Bro, cancel mehira bats. Nara need haste
Make sure nara has t2 5* boots, give her as much haste as she can get
All i can spare is t1 and call
Thats enough
Try it out
Normally i run nara naked will call anyway. At 36,its plenty
Unless enemt has lyca, then thats diff
Gratz
Told you ezio arent needed
tru
what’s a way to improve the damage?

During my bored time where i rng all stage, ezio dint even survive once. Idk why when i clear it, he fucking survived 
GratZ
How does he stall me out here wdf
I mean. 70% dmg reduction aint a joke. Especially with deficits
why was this easier then 36-8
Dont ask me
you probably already know, but arthur is tankier when taking it from the front. make sure to give it to arthur from behind if you want to kill him 
Best lineup for me?
Wukong, Arden, Lyca, Thoran and Leonardo while he lasts, Hogan when he disappears, probably
Ok ill do that ty
Also worth checking out the pinned beginner guides over in the questions channel, they've got some good tips for the earlygame
One important one; always focus all your experience and dust on five heroes only, don't spread it out. Anyone else should be placed on the resonance crystal slots
You need so much of it to be able to level up effectively, so you want to concentrate it as much as possible
Wukong should be your priority up until he gets to level 100, when you start going beyond that he slowly starts falling behind. Until you get five units to 100, Wukong, Lyca, Arden, Thoran and Hogan will probably work pretty decently
Ok i will, I have been running into a problem of dust and exp so it makes sense
When you get all five to level 100, you should start levelling ascending Mirael, Silvina, Saveas, Hogan and Arden, and only ascend them and nobody else, up until 160
You can (and should) still use other heroes of course, but they should be placed at the resonance crystal slots, not levelled or ascended beyond E+
Making too many L or L+ heroes is a huge beginner trap
Why is making too many L or L+ a problem?
It's because just like exp and dust, the heroes you need to merge to ascend them up there are a very limited resource as well, and if you spend it carelessly you can get completely stuck at level 140 or 160 for long periods wihout being able to progress at all
Hero and exp distribution can be reverted, you can reset all of those so that's not a big deal, but ascenscions are irreversible
Ohhh ok ty
Any tips on clearing 36-48?
I can finish both Flora stages with Ainz and Thoran.
The 4th one (Ezizh) can be cleared by Lucretia
The 5th one can be cleared by Raku Charm.
The 3rd One (Wukong + Numisu) annoys me. Alna GB doesn't work on them. :(
That stage sucks so much
Bah, I can't go back and check what I did on that stage
I vaguely recall using Alna+GB on one of the flora waves though
Hmmm.. can Alna GB survive the Flora stage?
My RC is currently at 350 so it probably has something to do with my current deficit
Depends on the deficit, yeah
Ohh well, literal AFK mode for now. Thanks bud
Can't remember what mine was at, but I think you're at a slightly higher deficit than I were
I were probably closer to 370 I think?
my raku just dies instantly lmao
Have u tried moving him
Hook mehira
How 😫
Think I 5-pulled that one? Lemme check
Yeah, Luc 5-pulled that one
Anything super bursty should work, you just need to kill one guy before 10 seconds has passed after all
just merc a lucrecia and put a bunch of level 1 with her. Should to the trick.
my team just dies tf
Try
Nara rowan
Lyca mehira raku
I get close sometimes but I cant beat it
Try
Rowan brutus/skreg
Daimon fera grezhul/anyone
Can try brutus skreg daimon rowan ferael might take a few tries though since kaz exists
get daimon to mythic+
could put rosa on daimon
Arthur, Rowan, Ferael, Oden, Daimon
Nah oden doesnt teleport eironn so he fucks my whole team
This one worked in the end with oden pipa stacking
Portal party ftw
Cool
Try
Brutus arthur
Fera daimon nara
Or fera arthur
Lucre daimon nara
Show what u used alrdy so its less confusing and easier to help you
Thats what i used already
Used rowan then
isnt that better to put nara bottom back?
youd wanna cancel the fera terrorise
but im getting insta cc before 1st ult
finally after 2 hours
Only 2h?
Struggling with 32-56 B side. A side easy clear with Ainz comp. Can merc something to help if needed. Neither of my other teams (luc and daimon comps) seem to be clearing it.
Appreciate any suggestions
Brutus Thoran Daimon Lyca Grez might do it
Or drop Lyca for Fareak
Oh wait Mehria is there
Brutus Lyca Fareal Grez Nara
You'll need an unit to prevent Mehira from spawning her bats.
And use Waistband on Grez if you have it
Team 1
Daimon
Brutus
Mehira
Rowan
Lyca
Team 2 ainZ comp with ferael replacing rowan
Thanks all. Trying these things and will revert back
For the team 2 try: Grezhul, Brutus to absorb the pull from Warek, make sure to have barricade on him, Daimon top with Eye, Ferael, Naara.
Don't have it but can try and get it actually.
If your Nara is too slow, give her the call. Equip her with decent gear.
And after all this time of playing, you still don't know to write "Fareal's" actual name. 
@left spindle same haha
Hahaha fwends
❤️
This isn't related to Line up go #classic-chat
This team 1 isn't working. daimon gets put to sleepy by the fairy and everyone else dies
I see but can mehira cast her ult?
Yes.
Rowan lyca die quick. then mehira ults. but D-man still sleeping
Try switching rowan and brutus
Daimon gets to ult early before getting slept, but mehira can't ult
Swap daimon and lyca too
have tried the 4 arrangements - none seem to work
would Nara in top slot work? to prevent safiya shield?
I dont think so that comp is basically mehira ult+ daimon cleanup
i just cleared side A with a random Luc comp!!!!!!!!!!
woooo ! ty @leaden glacier and all for the help
@proven river see above if this helps!
I see gj
haha didnt got ainz xD
Stfu
i've been playing afk arena off and on since it came out on various accounts but after all this time i still struggle with team building
any idea on what i can do with my hero's? i'm open to building any of them
2 legendary Nemora and 3 legendary Belinda

@granite tartan I don't know if it's worth fixing your account, if that's possible... I would start a new one and follow guides to avoid making mistakes
Shameless.
Yea, I would second that. Probably worth having a read of the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions and starting again. You will quickly catch up as this account is pretty gimped.
The winning formation uses Anoki at 200 instead of Lyca. Is there any other reason than to handle Athalia? Trying to find a way around using him as I don't have him ascended
Would brutus work
he is available, so I can try
He usually works to counter athalia for me
I’m trying to save this acc that I fucked up I have another one in much better shape but idk who to build or how to fix it lol
Besides overinvesting in brutus, you haven't thrown out too many resources from what I can see. And although maxing Belinda isn't optimal for campaign, she'll still be a huge help in the tower and in boss fights
I actually just kept getting brutus’s it was actually kinda funny so I got him up more for arthur, but thanks
Yeah brutus gets extended immunity with investment. But a 203 is as far as you should go. And continue to garrison for ainz while also aiming for albedo
Otherwise following guides can help with who to focus on building if you want to progress more easily in campaign
Ok
show ur hero box
ok first thing imma tell u is stop ascending hero’s to Legendary if u don’t have the copies to get them to legendary+
Ok
Ascending more than 5 heroes in early game rly doesn’t do much bcz u won’t even have the resources to take advantage of the new things they unlock
Ok
