#lineup-help
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You use gwyneth on ainz comp?
Don't use rowan on ainz comp, put talene
Ainz comp
5-pull lucretia
Daimon comp
Can you make raku +30?
Make this 4th comp, mehira can be elite with windbinder artifact.
Put queen on your 5-pull comp instead of lyca
Daimon comp can be tasi, ferael, brutus, daimon
i cant use lyca cause she in pull comp š¦
That's why I said put queen instead of lyca on your pull comp
queen only 10+
She will still work even at +0
my mehira is only elite would that do it?
Yes, I still have elite mehira at ch 37
not working, should i wait till raku is 30?
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Raku should be +30
Any ideas I'm getting run over
Any ideas?
A question for Solise users: what are good comps that you can recommend?
solise isn't meta anywhere
then just chuck her in alna GB or next to ainz or something
she doesn't exactly contribute anything, so people haven't built comps around her
I see. I use her in an alternative tanky team. Seems to work well with Lorsan.
Hi may I ask if Iām going the right direction? Who should I continue building/go for?
Read the pins in #classic-questions
Iām stuck for the last 2 days with my actual comp and was wondering if I should change my comp or just level up my heroes
If itās level, should I go for mirael 160 or the rest of the fodders to 140 ?
I need boss comps for this, please am in a hurry
switch it around the same comp wonāt work in every stage
Daimon
Thoran
Lyca
Nara
Brutus
Ferael
Thoran
Mireal
Arden
Rowan
working better but not enough, I guess I'll just wait to level up my heroes, ty
Alright try figuring out what's the problem and swap heroes around is it a boss?
nope it isn't
Alright maybe try moving Rowan and Brutus then
don't have Brutus yet.. my only tanks are Thoran, Grezhul, Titus and Skreg and can try to get a Hogan to do the job
Yes maybe try put Hogan where Thoran is and if that doesn't help then just focus on getting mireal to 160
And that was my b I helped someone else and they had Brutus
ok np, I'll try that and see what I can do, but that'll either make me level him up or put him in my crystal and honestly I'm kinda low on dust
Well one your Rosa is lvl 1 and 2 Saurus should be in the front and Lastly you have daimon and your not using him Read the pins in #classic-questions
I need a replacement for Lorsan, that is more tanky and increases survivability of the whole team and itself, if there is any. It shouldn't die instantly.
Can you send all your heros
Hmmm..maybe
Daimon
--------Brutus
Farael
--------Rowan
Joker
@icy parcel
Alna GBs the 1st one and Thoran cheese the 2nd.
Its much easier to cheese.
Talene
Ezizh
Lorsan
Thoran
Pippa
Pippa needs warden of the arcane.
Thoran call
The rest doesnt really matter.
@copper agate
Im assuming you are familiar with Thoran's gear setup for cheesing.
Sorry, had lost signal, do you have 5* Call?
i don't
i don't have ezizh xd
Do you got 250k Challenger coins? You should get one copy of Ezizih for cheesing /Shemira TR and Hypo tower
should i not wait for Leonardo exchange?
usually you don't use challenger coins on dim exchange, only if necessary
If you can spare 250 challenger I would definitely get 1.
E is enough for cheesing.
And yes, ideally you should use just guild/hero/lab to obtain Leonardo.
can someone please help me beat this level
Can you send all your heroes? Also, put your Ainz to +20Si and even more if you can make it
Try and avoid making L heroes too much, they get stuck there. If you haven't, read the quick guide pinned in #classic-questions it ll help a lot if you haven't read already. Have you got possibility to put Ainz to +20?
wdym +20?
It's good idea to increase this on specific heroes
No problem, the purple emblems will come shortly
They drop constantly
Can I see the contents of your bag, of you don't mind me asking? 
All right so you have 15 purple emblems, you need 200 to go from 1 to 10.
And to try and beat the stage, if you don't want to use Lucretia, I would try :
Ainz
Brutus
Rowan
Skreg/Wukong
Belinda/Skriath
To be fair seems like you're missing a strong carry like Daimon because I don't know how Ainz is with low SI and no furniture
(Not very good)
ainz is connected to Belinda
Ah yes that's correct.. Ainz is super strong but requires heavy investment and good team composition. You'll get there eventually but it takes time
i also haven't unlocked furniture items yet
Did you read the short guide pinned in questions? š
i did at first but its hard to follow ngl
I see, can you explain why? This is good feedback for us
its mostly based on luck
i put all the heroes it says i should put but i constantly keep getting units that aren't on my wish list

specially the hypogeans and the celestial
Those are super rare
i mostly get my units from events i guess
Hmmm that sounds very weird, you should get the units in wishlist, unless you're super lucky and drop celestial or hypogeans
want me to show u my list?
Yes please
You can use the Merced ainz, help please
@dull lotus all is looking good
alr thx for helping
wishlist doesn't affect heroes from stones and cards, only tavern pulls
Any good campaign formations?
depends on the stage
maybe just abandon multi fight cam then ?
belinda look weak af 
I'm...not sure why this channel won't let me post, so let's see if shrinking the file will help?
Anyway, I'm looking for arena help.
how do i beat this?
use your merc 
I'm having a hard time on this last fight in the trial
Check YouTube
Thanks man really helpful of you
Hola, I'm having a bit of trouble in a fight, and I don't have a lot of whacky characters
Any good replacement for Queen?
Otherwise I'll have to wait a month to garrison her for campaign T-T
Help pls
How many furniture for Skriath?
Only 3L, got him ascended only recently so barely have anything for him
Is he on ur Oak Inn wishlist?
Maybe merc Skriath with 3f and use Lucretia 5 pull
Yeah
Ok Iāll try it
You're 5 pulling a rosaline? Her broom sweep is aoe and can kill the luc. Grez alna is safer
@grand dragon you still have swap scroll?
Switch daimon and nara
is this a good tower of light team? i have enough to ascend lucius and iām one gwenyth off ascending her
nope
Yeah you should be fine for the first 100 easy
Any ideas?
The only one needed(or missing in your team) is morrow, imo
can someone figure out 3 teams for the legends challenger tournament? thanks to anyone that takes their time to help me
Any got a lineup I could use
Iām kinda hard struggling on the double battles Iām ab halfway through ch 32 so Iāve been winning but they keep getting harder and I donāt have 2 good reliable teams
Where's ainz and bedo ?
I havent gotten them yet is it worth the investment?
Ainz comp is one of the best PVE team yeah
It require Bedo 303 (no less no more) and ainz 309 (or at least 203 then 209 then 309)
And then you could have one team with Arthur/bedo/Rowan/ainz/someone else)
And for the second team idk
Any idea by time daimons unbanised rest team is dead I don't no what todo
Anyone able to help me with a team for this?
only have gotten one of him unfortunately š
need some help
use Mirael in center backline, link Grez with Isabella, put Rowan frontline without Chest so he can bait Silvinia initial attack, Thoran frontline and try last flex spot with Daimon, Silas, Oden or Pippa
what about artifact wise
You can use Arden instead, his CC is pretty good.
try changing someone instead of Grez, Lyca might do the trick
bet, gonna do vipers marsh real quick
@rotund idol youāre using the Flora thoran lorsan raine pippa comp?
R1 for 37-4 requires either 9f thoran, 5* call, or 3f raine
some tips for defensive/offensive teams in arena ? the picture is my current defense
(if u click the link theres a button so u dont have to register)
https://afkalc.com/hero-list/JzSuyzOTVYgo9hEDctsDlxNQ1z63
merlin hasnt gear so far except boots
Rowan in Ainz comp is bad. Replace him and Lyca with Merlin and Ezio. Put Lyca and Safiya in 5pull instead of Brutus and Tasi
Or just copy these
minimum req for ezio ?
000
Just got Pippa ascended, to add onto my hero list above ^, si20 0 furn
@worthy steeple did you clear it?
no sir.
yeah, lacking levels and a hero or two for clears on "winning formations" as well. just trying to get by with what little I have haha
Just made a new account what should my main team for campaign be for now
was this a lot of retries? looks kinda rng heavy 
good enough
though I had to e20 ainz for it to work
Kind of need a built as fuck Tasi for that clear though
Daimon as high as you can , followd by Silas , Lyca and Morrow
yeah.. working on Merlin atm. Tasi's gear is all t2, I could throw t3 on it and try it out, or do you think that's a little bit of a waste just to clear one stage of KT?
Nah, i've change gear around on heroes for KT stages; I wouldn't t3 her gear though unless you use her a lot and really like her; she's my favorite wilder, so thats Why I 309d mine
You levels and e30 ainz ahould help
alright, i'll keep on trying with Ainz comp + tasi, probably instead of Rowan? thanks for the help as well!
@worthy steeple sorry to bug once again, what arti did you use on Tasi? gonna give her 30 minutes or so of retries.
I Use oceanic Strings on her, but call might give less RNG for you
okie doke, wish me luck.
Good Luck! Hope it helps
if not NBD; it's only KT.
Anyone beat this stage? Any tips?
Any advice for this?
Hello,
I can't beat this stage. Afk helper doesn't help as well. Please help.
Morrow really good
Move ur daimon off of ogi
Can someone give me some help with a thoran cheese comp for this stage?
Im stuck on campaign chapter 11 and im a returning player. Can i get some help here?
Need help stuck on leverl
Hey Chat i am very new to this game trying to figure out what comp to play anyone have any advice based on what I have here
daimon is going to be your friend: he will easily solo carry you through several stages and chapters. I would recommend maxing him out as much as you can for now, no matter th elevel of your other heroes because he can definitely solo carry. Get him maxed out - if you can get all your other heroes to 100 and get him to 120 that's fine, otherwise, just get him to the highest level possible. You're gonna use rowan later on when he has his signature item but rn I'd say he's kinda useless ngl. Use lyca, tasi, and fereal too they're decent supports that can help especially with tasi's banish
@silent shore Something like this?
Stuck on this stageāany advice?
At this point WuKong has become uesless. Since you have Daimon he is a superior carry and WuKong isn't even a viable tank ngl unless he's at a higher level. Maybe try the new hero in your formation for now just cuz he's at legendary and has levels. Otherwise, you may wanna try out Morrow, the evil looking lightbearer guy
I can Throw Grezhul as a tank if we need to, but maybe I just need more contorl/cc I can go Morrow also is Gwyneth an option?
Forgot about Eironn as well know how good he is in this slot thou
Nah, if you want control you can try and get Raku in as one of his attacks has some Cc and he offers viable damage. However, Eironn could work if you put him in position 4 and combined with lyca, he'll suck opponents into Daimon, who can then just demolish them
Am very stuck, is there anything I can do?
need help
Rowan, Brutus, Daimon, Ferael and Nara
it worked thanks!
Np
how about this?
Put Nara in for Lyca and switch Daimon and Nara
worked again thanks!
Any Nara or Eironn ?
no
can anyone help with comps for the new cursed thingy?
Cursed thingy?
@warm maple Daimon where in front of Thoran, Oden where Nara is, hope Oden teleports fat guy on top of Eironn
im kinda new so iām not sure what lineup i should use. i checked the beginners guide and am still unsure, please help thanks
@turbid venture did you read the Google doc link for Bok? It tells you who to level for the first team if I'm not mistaken.
hi all need help to identify best lineup
Any Brutus copy ?
brutus only able to yelow
Hes fine at E+ for a long time
if have brutus which lineup should i use
Brutus, Rowan, Tasi, Ferael and Daimon
thanks!
Np
where could i find that?
Pins in #classic-questions
ok ty
Rowan for Lyca maybe
add me and look at my clears, I'm at ch26 with your level
ID: 134459568
Get rid of twins and add Lyca and don't make legandary copies without extra copies
hmm twins mainly for pvp?
Bosses
ok thankss
Np
Best general PVE team I can make?
Any Brutus copy ?
Yea, but isn't Alna just better gives the faction bonus
Faction Bonus is not important
Brutus, Rowan, Ferael, Oden and Daimon
Brutus, Rowan, Oden, Nara and Daimon
Could some help me with a line up for this level
The rat mf in the middle and his damn posion is annoying how do you deal with it
you have either nara or athalia ?
just put them in the middle and they will get rid of that rat trap
I see I'll try that out I think I got one of the two
just put some sacrifice puppet for luc, you have her at 30 already 
lucretia against brutus is big 
but that deficit is really low tho 
hardstuck, any help?
could someone help me with team comps against Cursed realm? I've checked leaderboards but am missing quite a few heroes
What do I use for final boss in abyssal?
Any tips for this kings tower level
How can I beat this stage?
Take mirael out put daimon backrow talene where daimon is
Mirael is honestly trash I would try and get a couple izolds and more daimon and silas
Those 3 are the god tier early game trio : izold daimon and silas
PERFECT NOT ONE HERO DIED besides⦠talane but thatās normal
Iāll post my wish list
Np
Talene may not be carry material anymore but she is an invaluable utility for heals over and over . Even 1 copy is strong
Ok
Anyone remember the specifics about this horrror? https://i.imgur.com/Vy4QPSc.png
I don't see how this can happen and yet this is afk helper setup
Poopy heros
Put daimon in the middle ez pz
you sure pippa placement is correct?
yeah ... there are a few variations for this solution, which include thoran and ezizh swapped
apparently ezizh has to pull rowan towards the center, so thoran can hit him .. ugh ...
I don't remember if I used thoran for this but try
pippa teleports thoran
Tried it, didn't work, because I never hit rowan
How do ye get ainz
my ezizh just dies and doesn't pull
could just be bad rng
this stage is shockingly hard to beat with anything tbh, kinda amazing
what ainzcomp do i use
go with luc and grez front row twins mid back rowan and if you have mortas use him if not id go w tasi or oden
Should i replace my wukong carry with anyone and if so, who do i switch him with?
Shut the hell up you have like 6 heros
Use saurus
He sucks
(in campaign)
Heās beast
You're probably in ch 10
Saurus fucking sucks in campaign and thats that.
Nope
What ch are you in?
Bad opinion especially since heās just started
Mirael is the best carry after wu kong
I'm not even going to continue this shitty argument, read a guide cause clearly you haven't read it.
Says the one who thinks saurus canāt do a better job at starting chapters than other heros š
For early game heroes, fodder heroes are the easiest to max their ascension, and bring the crystal level to level 160.
Take this in consideration: 5 fodder L+ heroes, are much easier to get than 5 L+ ascended typed heroes, each needing 4 copies of the ascended hero and fodder
Fodder type heroes at a higher ascension, and frankly a higher level, will do significantly more.
To extend past beginning game, Saurus is almost at an unusable stage of campaign. The only exception is if you're pushing at an offensively low deficit.
His acc. Obv offensively low deficit and no Saurus to be found. Not sure what he's on about

Stuck on this final push of ch 16. Would really love some help to make it through here
Thoran, Brutus, Lyca, tasi(for bait unless she somehows banish) daimon possibly. You don't want Daimon in front of Estrilda. And work on getting his +20
Ok, thank you! Heās at +17 so definitely close. Will run and see how it goes.
He has epic+ saraus š¤¦āāļøš¤¦āāļø
Do you realize that that's your account I'm talking about 
Stay mad kid
may someone please help me?
yea put rowan and reset wukong he isnt useful anymore at that point
okayys thanku
thanks alotš
Grab the free wukong, it helps a lot
How do I get the free wukong?
It should be at the top left of your screen in this section
Got it, tysm
š
Do I just give up on gwenth and upgrade safiya instead?
Even if safiya is already like gold as well?
You can still use saf and that rosa for raising the lvl cap of your heroes for the meantime. But beyond that, you should be focusing on daimon.
Ok thank u!
Do check out the pinned guides on #classic-questions
WOW that was a big jump thanks again @warm swan
Nice, gz
any suggestions for teams? especially 2nd/3rd teams
Stuck for days now
oden
lyca
rowan
brutus
daimon
try this
Didn't work
they all go down pretty fast and then overwhelm daimon
Ah yes someone got angry becouse i have better box then him, imagine that
try mirroring the lineup, so brutus daimon top, estrilda will get teleported this way

it worked, thank u! 
good job š
Iām on chapt 13, kinda been stuck for awhile
Thank you for reminding me that safiya is a hero
shes that bad huh š¤£
Well no her pyramid is a decent buff for pull characters :D
I was thinking of using her as a sacrefiseable just for the pyramid
you need to stop making legendary heroes if you dont have atleast 4 copies, read the guides in #classic-questions for a better understanding of what you should be doing.
Show the stage
oh, no I got stuck on this acc, I know what I should have been doing, just doing something diff and want to progress.
Any help is appreciated - stuck on stage 13-32 for a while now, thanks!
Ideas for either of the two battles? Luc can cheese both of them, but the second one is causing troubles. Itās either Mehira wiping the whole team and dealing most of the damage or on the other one Antandra, Khasos and Safiya
i think u just need to get heroes to higher levels. lucius is not that great from chap 16 onwards. not tanky enough to be frontliner. Build daimon if u can. i rely on her to reach chap 22
Swap Lyca with Lucius and if you got a Nara put her Middle
Also put Brutus front and Shemira behind him
Maybe for first team
Daimon
--------Rowan
Farael
--------Grezhul/Thoran
Tessi/Oden
Didnāt work :/
Any Mehira copy ?
Can you look on afk helper and see if there's a thoran cheese clear?
the first battle look like its cheeseable with thoran
What heroes should I swap for boss
Do you have e+ mortas and twins? Replace shem with Lucretia and warek for Grezhul.
Nah I was gazing lucretia and need two copies and after I was gonna do mortas but I do have twins
Thats fine, add twins.
Grezhul, Lucretia, Cecilia, Rowan, and Twins worked for me without mortas
Ok thx
You need raine 3f, without 3f she wonāt do much for you iirc
@patent hemlock +10 gives 50% health and energy recovery, so not NOTHING but yeah I know 3f would help and I don't have anyone else to fill that slot that would be as helpful besides maybe eziz for that post-death energy
I found these 2 solutions that might help you
@rotund idol
Try like this
1 - empty
2 - Thoran call
3 - Lorsan warden
4- Izold call
5 - pippa call
^ like the first ss
Tbh you too fast Stink.
Nah that's ruining my warp
Then try whatever lvl1 hero instead of Izold
10 attempts in a row pippa just tosses thoran behind friendly lines, tried it with raine instead since she dies instantly anyway, same deal, adding talene back in 1st slot solves the warp problem but I'm still back to square one, where thoran kills everyone except flora and then dies to flora
nah man, no matter what I do flora just 1 shots thoran after she drops
like, she drops, thoran ults, she loses maybe 1/4 of her HP then 1 shots him
Do you have any furn on raine?
not yet, she's been on WL just unlucky
Shame, did you try the second team I sent? With Brutus?
yeah, been swapping brutus and talene (with blade) in and out periodically, both get me pretty consistent warps, (9/10 times with a good warp maybe), brutus gets thoran to kill everyone except flora much more consistently but nothing gets him to kill flora after she drops
Whatās your RC?
367
You should 100% be able to pass it, just a lot of RNG.
Itās taken me alot of tries for Thoran stages, rng plays a huge part
Ah.
He actually ults.
Shouldve said that smh.
I said tit way back in questions but yeah he ults maybe 2/3 times
Manual the 2nd ult.
Delay it a bit.
Just turn auto off once he starts ulting 1st time.
You can try that too, manual works sometimes
if I do that he almost always dies immediately, if he's not ulting he is generally dead

Yeah itās rng then, you just have to be patient and macro if possible, itās usually the case
If youāre 16 RC levels above that SS and with the same exact setup, itās do-able
always end up here, 1v1 thoran vs flora, thoran ults and just doesn't deal enough damage to kill her
Either rng or delay it.
Not too long.
Like 1 flash of his portrait.
tried it, was able to pull it off, still didn't change anything
maybe 4 tries with it delayed? not a lot but it didn't seem to make any difference except he died immediately after ulting
Then I honestly dunno what else to change.
Sorry man :/
It's all good lol, I'm glad to know it's not just me not understanding the comp
I'll probably come back to it once I have a more invested Kelthur, I've heard he's pretty good for flora stages
Need help pls
Some help ?
try this:
Rosaline
Rowan
Gwy
Lucius/Estrilda
Ceci
ceci/estrilda too
I did win on a 50 try š„² thnx for help š
good job
Have you tried sacing lyca to athalia?
Sacrificing
Help
Some friendly lineups for cursed realm?
How do I get the 280m damage with this set of heroās
Grezhul, Lucretia, Mortas, Rowan, and Twins but upgrade your relics
Hi, need help pls
Yeah basically this but replace raine since she's not on there for you
With?
Help plsssss
assistance if you may š
try with gwyn at pos 4, rowan at pos 3 and mirael at 5
Try rowan, rose, gwyneth, fawkes/hendrik, fawkes/hendrik
Slot Daimon instead of Saurus or Izold, yes even at E
lineup?
Ok sorry no idea but tip instead of leveling a bunch of different heroes with essence and such use upgraded fodder L or L+ to get your team to lvl like 120 to easily pass that
just wondered if i should replace izold with hogan and if my current lineup is good(Daimon, Izold, Oden, Lyca and Pippa)
fyi, im having trouble defeating enemies in āthe road homeā voyage of wonders
You can use a merc from your friends/guildie
merc an ainz (preferably at least lvl 30 signature and 9 red diamonds above his head (furniture))
Should I use my swap scroll for hendrik to rigby?
No
manually play through like this
1st battle you don't use any ult, let ainz kill all enemy (he will have full energy after that)
every battle after that, start the battle-> ult
if ainz can't kill all enemy with 1 ult (exclude heroes with immunity/revive like thoran,brutus,alna,.... ofc): start battle -> wait 5-6s -> ult
thx for your suggestion, but rn i cant hire any ainz from my friends as theyāre all currently being used
oh that's sad, you can look for more ainz friends in #mercenary
@turbid venture 51987464 add me
just sent request tysm
Accepted
now that i have ainz, how should i arrange my lineup? thanks
well just ainz + 4 strongest heroes you have (or 4 come from 1 faction for faction bonus)
the important thing is what relic you pick (get all the dmg increase, as much as possible)
ok ty :)
ainz is the only thing you want to focus in that fight 
if he 1 shot everything then other heroes is just for attack bonus
lol ok
@rain garden your box is uhh, kinda in a mess. Any particular reason you are focusing on lb?
Just what I liked starting out thats legit it
Liked mono team
And when Rosaline came out I full committed to mono with Belinda dps
Hi all just after some help with my line up Iām only newer to the game but looking for long term team
@vocal sluice this one
Long term as in end-game I assume. Daimon, Grezhul, antandra, rowan(definitely), and nara are some good options. ALL REQUIRE INVESTMENT(Except daimon- he does but can be used without it) SO DO NOT FOCUS ALL RESOURCES ON THEM RN. you'll build them as you go
can i see your heroes and the stage you're stuck on?
Sure
Reset ira and hogan, take hogan to lvl 60 and take mirael to lvl 100. Then take tasi to lvl 68. New formation should be Brutus(60) Hogan(60) Rosaline(60- make her follow mirael) Tasi(68)
How do reset
lemme check been so long lol
k, on the home page click ranhorn at the bottom left corner and then click rickety cart
Gimme 5
kk
What the but what if they all lvl 100
wym?
What if I made em all lvl 100 my lineup
So I need white tier person how do I pull that
it's a lot to explain, but the easy way to explain it is for you to go to #classic-questions and read the pinned messages
So Iām making hogan legendary but will he turn to white afterwards
anyone got a team for 37-4 1
Never tried thoran cheese before, I am unsure if this would work. Thoran gets hto ult with everyone on top of him, sometimes he manages to kill 2-3 of them. Will this work with enough retries or am I just wasting time? Call 2* btw
yo, where is ainz tho? I see albedo, use him as a carry, not sure if albedo is useful without him
didnt get ainz back then, trying to borrow someones tho, maybe I should look in library mercs
garrison ainz yeah
Albedo is pretty usefull as tqnk still without ainz but you gotta lvl her q bit first tho she doesnt get killed before using her ulti
Oh my... queen of typoš¤¦š¼āāļø
Eironn middle back and maybe rowan at wukong's place
Wont Rowan get absolutely shredded in the front?
Stuck again in chapter 10-23. Need help
Stuck what should I do
Progressing quite slowly atm (stuck in chapter 11,seems like I lack cc/sustain) Iām wondering if I should keep my Mirael as my main dps and build around her or swap to Daimon or some other team comp that I can build but Iād be going from 160 Mirael carry to almost 120 on every other possible carry what your thoughts on this ?
Actual team is Thoran / Mirael as my core and moving around some others like Silas/Rowan/Arden/Oden/Rosaline(/Raine ?)
you should post enemy lineup and your hero box
ok np ill do that in one sec
Got it thanks
srry had to get some rest, if the hero has 3 skills(Ex. Hogan, Mirael, Etc.) then the highest they can go is L+, if the hero has 4 skills then they can go to Ascended(White) with a maximum of 5 stars
@neon nova what can i do?
seeing what I can come up with
its impossible
in the battle is everyone dying immediately or are they getting ults off?\
ive tried almost everything
Brutus dies instantly
Skreg gets ult off but get killed pretty fast
Arden is quickly killed and then ainz maybe gets ult off but rosa dies quickly after the 3 die and then ainz dies
the mistakes I in comps I see are usually something like an dps or cc mistake. In your case you have both, and you're using your optimal team. Can't give you a team change on this one but when you're pushing hard rng can come into play. I would just say to try and rng it for a little while and if it doesn't work just give it some time and gain a few levels
if they're ulting its a good sign that means it may be passable
I just need ONE Brutus
Then he can get to mythic I think bc then I can get an e+ version of him then get him to l+ then I can use Karen to get him to mythic and so on
Kremlin
AHHHHH ITS Kren
NOOOOOO sacrificing kren for Brutus is NOT worth it
kren is 100x better than brutus, with a little investment he will be your nearly all-time mauler carry. After a while brutus is only used to tank then die
no but you can fodder those, are are legendary heroes
Ok whatās ur alts name
checking id because it has special characters
add ID- 84645471
kk
i dont have heroes displayed on main but its 27553129
I actually have a spot on main also so if you want a rider range of heroes to merc you can add it also
Best team I can make with this?
ok i'll friend u soon
reset your heroes to make mirael your highest level, dont forget to check the pinned guides in #classic-questions , pair mirael with hogan, arden lyca and savaes
@warm yew
which enemy is affecting you the most here
also make sure you have call on ainz and rowan, oden if possible, if not then put eye on him and ferael
brutus can stay neutral but grace can help him live longer
By ainz u mean daimon?
Need help understanding why Thoran doesnāt manage to ult in this lineup, he dies before his energy bar is even half full. Also tried playing around with the lineup, putting Lyca in instead of Nara, same thing. Only Thoran has Call equipped.
Have to mention there are 10+ clears of this stage on afkhelper with the exact same lineup.
Nara looks mandatory here.
Or you can try Athalia if you have her.
Even E.
Same job really.They have to interrupt Mehira.
If she gets her bats off she basically has 3 lifes and you wont cheese her.
Tried 100+ times with Nara, not once did Thoran managed to get even close to ulting
Not sure what is different with mine setup vs the ones from afk helper, same lineup, most likely same artis
Maybe Eironn steals the potion?
Whats Thoran's gear like?
T2 weapon, T1 boots, T0 helmet, E Chest all maxed
And I assume Eironn manages to pull?
Yes
Do you have Athalia? even E
Its hard to tell what exactly goes wrong in your cheese unless you could record a vid.
But we may try another one.
Needs Athalia and Kelthur though.
Both fine at E.
Here is the vid, my RC is atm all filled with heroes, cant put kelthur and athalia in
Hmm.
Its close though.
Try giving Thoran an M chestpiece.
T0 even.
@neon nova accept the fr in afk
Yeah he needs to reach 600 energy to take it.
Lemme think.
Does it mean I need to stall the fight for a second more, maybe Eironn dies to fast?
Or the pull is too slow.
Try call on Eironn.
Or swapping Thoran and Rowan positions.
Or both.
Still no luck, I find it hard to understand how come it doesn't work, so many people had done the same exact thing
Is your fort tree at 15?
Yes it is, exactly at 15
Hmm.
Then I honestly have no idea.
Sorry man :/
Thanks a lot for the help, we tried
I managed to get Thoran to take the potion with some changes to the lineup but still he doesn't manage to ult
Will keep trying
His nara pull is too slow. Dint cancel mehira bats
I tried using Eye on Nara as well
Use call on her
iām getting smacked š
U passed? Gratz
Not yet, but he manages to ult few times before dying, just needs to keep retrying
How tf did you even see it in all this mess at 4x speed lol
When you drank a box of beer 
The world slows down...I get it 
nyone knows where i can see some lineups for the cursed realm?
Anyone know what I should do
Any ideas?
maybe?
daimon
rowan
nara
brutus
antandra
also stop making a bunch of legendaries and if youāre gonna have ainz you have to have albedo but wait till after leonardo exchange to garrison
Frontline Rowan, remove Ainz or Antandra and have Nara hook Ferael
read pins in #classic-questions
@silk burrow can you save me the time and tell me what lineup to use
you helped the guy above me
ummm yeah cuz he sent a pic of the stage?
ok well first of all you should still read pins. wukong should be leved higher than the rest of your team but you can try
oden
wukong
angelo?
thoran
lucius
Current lineup:
Oden
--> Daimon
Lyca
--> Izold
Pippa
who can i replace with Rowan? and extra lineup tips is appreciated
Pippa. Get a brutus and ditch izold. Arden for aoe cc
tysm but should i replace lyca for arden or oden?
That'll depend on your enemies. I'm leaning towards arden for oden once arden can root 3 enemies. I don't have much experience with oden that early game so there's that also
ic ty
is this good?
Lyca
--> Daimon
Rowan
--> Izold
Arden
^
Any ideas?
@old oar ant, brutus, lyca, rowan, daimon
Help xd
I have the ainz comp and the Lucy 5 pull
Daimon
--------Brutus
Rowan
--------Lyca/thoran
Larson
I reached 31-4 and need 2 teams now. Thought off the ainz budget team as 2nd team to begin with but don't know what to take in the first team then.
Grazhul is close to ascended and SI20 already btw
You can use the luc
Need help with 4 teams to pass 35-48
1 brut 2 dai 3 fer 4 silas 5 oden
gg worked
NICEEEEEEEEEEE
I hope next stage isn't as annoying
can i friend you in-game and on disc
Sure
whats ur game id
129966716
:0 I just did my worst stage first try
It had a thane, mirael and arden, I thought I was screwed lmao
Done
Guys this was insane
I got a m+ tasi and I defeated chap 20 and am on my way to defeat chap 21
What is a good Soren comp with merced saurus? Got twins and mortas on E
Any artifact help??
Hey, can anyone recommend a 4th team to use? My main 3 are Lucy, Graveborn+Alna, and Ainz. I can make some adjustments to the exact heroes in those comps so Iām wondering whatās I strong 4th team, since throwing junk together isnāt working anymore.
If you have mehira E+ you can use brutus, lyca, raku, mehira, rowan
Only E. hopefully I get with my SG cards from prince tomorrow.
why E+ tho ?
mehiran can work at E as long as you give her enough protection and energy 
it's depend, but as long as she used ult then your rng start
brutus can be swap with rosaline for more consistent charm too
As long as she ults it should work and manual raku for more dmg
any advice for this?
Thanks. That cleared the stage I was having issues with š
Maybe use daikon instead or Lorsan?
Depending on gear an AGI unit is better facing Athalia for dodging, even Rowan
what's agi?
agility
oh I see
well everyone I place against athalia is getting one shot so I tired thoran and brutus but neither seems to work
Maybe Talene
doesn't work too well with talene
Aso Lyca is restricted for second team
@north prairie
Overlevel Mirael to 160.
Use her as your carry.
Ainz isnt doing anything for you at such low lvl and investment.His time will come.
Use Golus instead of Thorne to tank.
And finally you need some sustain in your team.
Rowan, Silas...something.
Only from garrison
Maybe switch Raine and Arden
got smacked still ā¹ļø
Hard stuck
Maybe lyca instead of raine and put rose line on Lusius
lit i passed 39 now iām stuck on 40 š„²
@naive hamlet nvm your idea worked iām on chap 16 now š
could i get some help on who i should build? iām willing to reset people so please help
@frigid aspen
thank you!
It's pinned on #classic-questions btw, and it's more detailed there
ooh ok, i was not aware
I have no clue how to kill the athalia
Nvm I got it, it took a long ass time tho
I used the mythic thing to swap rowen and antandra
You should not have wasted it
Ah well, whatās done is done
Check pins in #classic-questions
What does that even mean lol..
Wait could I have used it on Lucretia
Are you new in discord? Go into #classic-questions look at the pins in the channel
@naive hamlet You can't use the swap scroll on celestials or hypos
If I could have, I would have been so mad lol
Yes I am lol I just need help with a lineup thatās all I donāt know where to look for pins or whatever it Is
Slide to let off your screen in #classic-questions if you're on mobile.
Only 4 faction heros
hey guys, anyone here uses PC to play AFK Arena? i'd like someone to troubleshoot with recognizing a linked google account on an emulator (Nox emulator)
Can someone just help me with my lineup? Nothing there helps me with what I have right now, thatās just whatās good āifā I got it lol
Fine. Wu Kong to level 100, Hogan, Nemora, Mirael, and some flex like Ira or Safiya.
Thank you šš¼
CHARGE YOUR PHONE
No, buts itās much better to save it for later game
The newest/latest guide for beginners: https://i.redd.it/6wtfydzj4os71.jpg
i know itās hard to find guides and suggestions personally built to you, but i started about a week ago and this really helped me. read from top to bottom and learn the heroes and what they do
You don't have to ping a mod for that one 
Thanks for the proposition. We'll analyse if it's worth it to ping this guide@pale kettle š
:))
iām sorry sir
Yo, anyone have a composition for the boss of the cursed realm? thanks in advance. 
lol
hey im new to the game and doing the arena of trials event, iām not sure which characters to use to win
Need help with this, They just Keep disrupting my Daimons Ult and Continue to Stun him till he dies
Any idea how much investment does Da Vinci need for him to replace a 303 Arthur in Ainz comp?
i like this guide
Why would u replace arthur?
The newest/latest guide for beginners: https://i.redd.it/6wtfydzj4os71.jpg
ulmus is good
Guide is Great and all,but i recon i could do bettet atleast for a Day pr so with something else in lineup
Thats why I wamt someone to just take a look for me š
Anyone know what I should do here completely stuck
I don't see a main carry on your line-up. Got a daimon somewhere there?
Nope doing the volkin challenge so not allowed been using it all of them as dmg and focusing on cc heroes to win me but the Brutus khasos is destroying me on the bottom
So donāt know what to do
My main comp has been mishka gorvo with Arden numisu raku or morrow
Plus I also got on daimon on wishlist but still havenāt even gotten a single one
Need help with Lineup, Daimon can't get an Active since they just Keep stunning him
Also that Skreg was a Mistake 1 day ago don't Mind him
@stoic lynx Sorry, I don't know what the challenge is all about so I can't help you. Best of luck tho
Need to figure out next light bearer to go after, considering morrow but not sure i want to use player choice summons for 2 months
U switched her position ?
So I have a problem with barricade likely needing to go to Rowan but kren is engraved so I can't get Rowan to take barricade
If I swap kren/Rowan then Rosa dies now so I'm not sure what to do with this team now
I'll try kren Rosa front and Rowan in 3 for a bit and see how it works but I'm open to suggestions, this is 37-56 r2
I am struggling to even make a dent on 11-12, I have a few options for CC but I am not entirely good at finding synergy yet. Would appreciate suggestions on lineup, even if I need to sub in different heroes on crystal tomorrow
If I'm being honest people told me not to feed 4 skill heroes but shemira isn't good at all so if u wanna get her leg+ and feed her to daimon and get him Mythic would be very helpful
What the fuck donāt do that. Shem has her uses and is at the very least a easy link since you get a lot of copies @stable ember donāt listen to this guy
Shemira isn't a priority early game
She's also very common to get so
The only time she's used if for a guild boss or Twisted realm bosses otherwise she's pretty much pointless never used her once and I'm in chapter 25
Donāt fodderize A tier heros. Thatās like chapter 1 of common knowledge
Sheās an easy link. Donāt throw her away. Fodder will come soon enough
Whats your name again lol.don't feed shemira she's used in twisted realm and shes good dimentional link
I can see the Dimensio link but otherwise not to much to worry about
If you wanna fodderize A tier heros go right ahead. But donāt lead others to Iāll advised things. If you wanna throw away shems be our guest but donāt tell newbs the wrong things
Yeah not a chance I would feed shemira, especially considering I have 7 copies of her already
Or rather will have 7 when I pick up the first week bonus and the one from the candy crush junk
Stuck at 22-10 currently top 5 is my current team with Brutus and Lucius at the front⦠wanting to put diamon at the front and switch Lucius for Isabella when sheās M+.. or any other ideas would help š
You can start by never getting a hero to leg+ unless you cam get them directly to leg+ to save food
If you can hco for oden go for it he a beast frm the start to the end of the game
Mishka is a new unit she a has a very good stun when she ult wich is why she mostly used at 9f where she can ult imeadiatly also i recomed building raku fereal eiron tasy grezhul (grehul need his 9f to work but when he gets it he becomes one of the top 3 heroes in this game)rowan rosaline raine skreg kren
Ok cool thank you
And dont invest in Isabella, Shemira or Lucius anymore
And get Daimos si to +20 asap
Oh lol I like Isabella though sheās kinda cool xD
Shes in the bottom 3 when it comes to graveborn
Daimon is ur carry 100%
Any Rowan copies ?
Oh⦠well that sucks š I havenāt properly looked at tier lists and I kept getting copies of shemira lol ahh ok fair enough xD Iāll get him to +20 when I can heās +18 currently⦠is he worth taking to 30? And nope not had one yet :/
Mine is +20 at chapter 36 so maybe at chapter 37
Ok so not worth pushing him higher to prep for later on? Saving resources
Correct
Post ur box in #classic-questions ask if its smart to hcp Rowan im not sure tbh
And Oak Inn and Tavern wishlist
Ok cool, whatās hcp?
Hero choice pull
Oh⦠Mine doesnāt reset until 2 weeks away⦠think I used it to get my Daimon to A
@stark wolf then ask for this trust me
Any suggestions for this?
Anyone got a line up
Try
Oden
Brutus
Estrilda
Daimon ( if he can survive, if not swap him and estrilda )
Eironn
@whole smelt
K
I'm not the newest player tho.. But sometimes I feel like I mess up my party constellation af and i just didn't figure out what teams I should do. So can anyone give me any advice? :)
And are there any heroes I should stop leveling and try to get another one instead?
Hello @loud finch,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
Hmm,
Oden
----->Thoran
Rowan
----->Daimon
Kren maybe
Beat it
Ohk
Its fine tasi just takes awhile
Stuck at 7-40,could use some help. Any idea what I should do with team?
Or what setup i should use i mean
The first 4 are in my team not sure who to choose next they keep dying ( obviously because the 5th player is too low lv) I have been using aldous as tank bu using his shield ability foe a couple of seconds to save me at the start
Can someone help me with an AE team? I added mortas and Twins late so I don't have much energy. I'll have a single attack in a couple of hours.
Once you regain stamina, Grezhul with soul, Lucretia, Mortas, Rowan, and Twins. Make sure you upgrade a lot of your celerity relics.
Thanks! I tried once but I didn't have Lucretia so hopefully it will work! I was at 113 instead of 130.
What are good PVP comps with Grezhul?
something like alna grezhul ferael silas oden/athalia
advice?
need an actual lineup rather than just random heroes slapped together, also i can ascend either saurus or eironn rn
Maybe you could try to thoran cheese the first one and lucretia the second one
I would suggest reading the beginners guide in pins #classic-questions and thoran cheese is not a great first comp
ive just been using him as a generic tank since i have him as legendary, what should i do instead?
If Iām gonna real with you idrk I just know some things Iām still a new player 4 months and I donāt think I should be giving advice maybe you can ask the experts in #classic-questions
My thoran isnāt 30/30 yet š¦
Try reading the pins in Questions and also don't make people legendary with having 4 copies to make leg+ and work on getting fodders to leg+ or your gonna regret it later on
If it's not too much trouble I'd appreciate some help
Anyone got some comps for abysall expedition for final boss ?
Any tips?
I would use Satrana instead of Skirath. She's quite tanky and does decent damage in the mauler tower. You can also put her in the front line if tidus dies to quickly
Thank you!
Canāt beat this at all. any ideas?
My lucretia keep dieing in 2 secs...
I guess Isabella shreds you. If you put Eironn on Lycas position this should help. Rowan in the middle so that Daimon can also get potions. Estrilda is a weird choice I would try replacing her with Joker (opposite of a graveborn).
An alternative would be using Ainz, Rowan, Lyca + 2 frontline tanks e.g. Thoran, Brutus, Daimon (if he lives long enough).
What I would do is looking at formations that won the stage. That's often very helpful.
ye Estrilda is just placeholder. I can pull Isabella to get rid of her but lose heavily regardless, if she survives it's the same result. I haven't tried Joker yet so I'll do that. Ty
the first thing you suggested worked out, thanks again
Help
Anyway I did it like this
nice
How
At least in fabled it is Raku instead of Saurus, but fabled meta is sometimes different from other floors. If that team is what your ladder rank 1 uses then it is most likely the best one.
It's actually 50/50 here
Even tho number 1 uses saurus there's a few in top 10 with raku
I am assuming you don't have Raku since you are mercing him so you will have to stick with Saurus
Yh
I got 4 copies of daimon early game,should I try to uppgradera and fokus her early?
Get him up to mystic and get his si up to +20
sometimes guys it depends on formation not power cause i complete chapter 11 with 295k power team again a 300k+ and the boss war 400k i beat them cause of strategy partially cause i had shamira mitic with 100k power and 3 tank saurus skrag and lucius it was funny as dmg dealer i had shamira and raku it was nice
??? - have you not seen power differences in higher stages wat
Lucr becomes a lot better when you get SI30, you are a good bit away from that since you still need Rowan SI30 tho
How is it even possible to beat this ?
Maybe fereal instead of Rosa
Thanks it worked !
Who exactly should I use?
I have had this stage repeat trying for a couple hours with thoran and cant beat it any changes need madr?
I'm stuck here
Anyone can help me ?
I'm stuck on 10-11 and currently running eiron lyca skrianth Pippa/Rowan and thoran? Trying to get safiya up but no luck
Brutus carry 
Any help ?
Any suggestions I'm on 11-8
My main team is the first three and the mauler + monkey
idk
Get 5 ascended heroes. Just focus on that trust me
Can you specify there names?
Yeah i'm trying to
Yeah youāre going to be stuck in here for a while.
Oh wait perfect. Build ainz up. All that you can his SI make it 30 get him good gear heās gonna be ur carry
Get prince too his good but for now focus on ainz
Can you do stargaze? If yes focus on ONLY getting lucretia get her till ascended or one star
Upgraded that daimon, same with Lucius. They are good early game
Change Belinda. Sheās not good. Use Lucius or grezhul
Daimon, drez, Rowan, maybe tasi if you want and try antandra
Weāll upgrade that Brutus. And donāt use it. Use/get ainz in garrison and put daimon in front his a tank hero and lev up!
Upgrade her SI and get her furniture engrave her too.
Can someone help me with 36 48?? Ive tried thoran and ezith as i see on youtube but it didnt work
Read pin guides in #classic-questions it should help
I suggest reading pinned guides in #classic-questions it isnāt really a good idea to make l heroes
Wdym
I just finished the ancient ruins was a pain tbh
So, here is my lineup https://i.imgur.com/yqeCGrd.png here is what I'm trying to copy: https://i.imgur.com/QMJlU9b.png. Why does my thoran NEVER ult? All artifacts and gear are pretty much equal at least in terms of haste
I see focus on lev and if you can get drez heās good if you get him change shemira to him
I canāt help I havenāt use those yet sorry
Why drez?
When he gets to M His SI is goood
Not really, if anything, Daimon is a better choice for your carry. Drez is really used in mauler tower (sometimes) and AE.
Didnāt say carry tho
Ofc daimond is but drez is a good one as well and yeah his good for those 2
Heās new thatās why he already has daimon
You can always check replays whenever why he can't ult. It's possible for Tasi to use her teleport which happens a lot when you have his 3f.
he just doesn't get enough energy. Why does this happen?
That, I'm unsure. You don't have 5* call but it's do-able with 4* call.
I linked a picture with the artifacts that led to victory, so ... and indeed, I do not have 5-call
Does Pippa get her teleport quick?
Yeah, it's just heavy rng. I'm not sure how to help you on that..
Who should I focus on and lvl up
Build up Saveas and get him to L+ and dump XP into him.
Heāll carry you rather far very easily with not much investment or difficulty to build up, and when youāre past the point of him being useful his just plain jane fodder.
And try only level 5 hours using XP, the rest you can use the crystal to sync them up without spending any XP.
And donāt ascend a hero to Legendary you canāt immediately turn into L+, you can end up stalling yourself out very easily doing that @terse gate
Would someone be able to help me figure out 2 teams, i am at 31 and I have kinda just been upgrading people randomly based on who i pull and would love some advice.
@small hound I'm pretty sure you can pass thru 31 with your hero pool + hero lvls. Tho I recommend to stop upgrading based solely on who you pull.
Yeah realizes that wasn't a great method but i dont really know the meta nor do i know what counts as a good team
@small hound this one needs updating but is still viable
Thank you makes it much easier to understand
i would swap belinda and rowan and swapping estrilda and daimon around
Any suggestions this stage is fucking stupid as hell
@warm maple i did this

So much L heroes my lord
if ur talkin about me dont judge me
i was stupid and fixed it sorta earlier
My eyessss
shamed with no advice
What lineup do you guys use to beat misty valley stage 15 in under 15 seconds?
What you guys think of my furniture wish?
what should i use i quit the game for a while
I'm hitting a wall at 6-21, anyone have any team suggestions based on what I have(ignore the levels, I plan on refunding them)
I have no idea what's considered good or bad
@tall pewter I think u need more general beginner support rather than help on a specific stage.
First tip is to make wu kong 20 levels higher than everyone and keep him overlevelled until he is lvl 100 (you will replace him after, so don't ascend him past e). A carry is better than leveling everyone equally.
Check the pins in #classic-questions and you will find lots of other tips.
I'm hitting a wall again on 14-31. Curious about potential better lineups to throw at it if anyone has input
Daimon
-------mezoth
Rowan
-------Farael/Lyca
Nara/Farael
Stuck on this level, any help appreciated. I have space in. Crystal if you think any particular heroes will help! Thanks!
Brutus, Rowan, Ferael, Oden(activate his si)/new guy and Daimon
Ya ion got Rowan so that's basically my problem
ill give it a go ty
Ask in #classic-questions for a quick fix
Lorsan eironn 5 pull luc or
Ainzbedo warden lyca
Don't nara tasi, put safiya in naras spot


