#lineup-help
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You shouldn't be struggling in ch25, with a daimon 240 u can easily push to ch30
Run something like this:
Daimon
rowan
eironn
brutus
skriath
U can maybe change brutus for lyca or thoran depending on the fight and see what works better
Rowan on front? Brutus is barely e+....why him
Like that?
Rowan can tank by dodging that’s why most of the time you put him infront.
Brutus only job is to stall time for daimon to pop off with his immunity.
This particular stage u don’t need skriath, swap him for someone else like lyca
And iirc the comp that i used the most to get to ch30 was
daimon
brutus
eironn
thoran
ferael
Need 5 pull comp
5 pull comp? Meaning?
It means what it means, it pulls five heroes. Eironn and skriath 3f are usually five pull cores. So you're using daimon 5 pull 
Chicken 3f eirron
try Rowan, grez, daimon, fera, and oden
Sorry I passed it next try I uploaded it lol

Alna (immune tank), thoran, Daimon, Brutus, and lyca maybe. If you need some heals, Alna, Talene, Daimon, Brutus, Lyca. Do you have a Ferael? And please, stop making L heroes
Agree ^
use daimon and rosaline
that's the only Ascended heroes i have and rn i'm chap 27-50 just with them both
not a great combo, usually daimon works more with rowan and fereal
Yeah, i use daimon rosaline ferea rowan and thoran or arthur since the begining
rosaline doesn't fit in that kind of a team, if you want energy/healing/attack gain just use lyca/silas
since daimon scales with enemy attack increase from rosaline is useless really
afkhelper not helping you?
Lemme go check forgot that existed
i was about to say why not cheese it, then i saw that E+ thoran lol
@dull flame yeah no this keep happening
Yeah nah
hmm retry
I mean rng can’t help insta death
sure it can
geez, the powercap removal has did a number to all players. i rmb being 290 or so before clearing this chap with 3 teams
Okay it did .-.
psh 290, I was fricking 330
, im hugging powercap
God damn raku op
I only started pushing campaign chap 31-35
yay! now I can sleep in piece. Night everyone!
g9
Gn
Idk they both carried me to chap 28 (they're the only ones staying alive) i'm using the same team since chap 1
So as long as it works im fine
I’m stuck as hell
can alna counter lucius?
Try
Daimon
Rosaline
Rowan
Thoran
Lyca
Add me in game I have better mercs than what ur using. I know it doesn't help for this particular battle but can help u down the road. Ign is igith
Sent ya a request
Gave it a few runs, they seemingly get one tapped
Help for what ?
I use the first two elite ones at the front and the other three (not nemora) at the back, is that good or do you have better suggestions?
Can someone help me make 3 teams for pvp
I could use some assistance pollishing my comps
Any ideas what I could different I do know I'm way under lvl
Deficit isn't even too hight tbh I'm not great at team building but maybe antandra (rowan if you have) and Thoran front row and daimon desira tasi back row
Ok I will give it a shot thks
Stuck at this stage. Basically RNG fight. Sometimes I get annihilated and sometimes I can get close to winning. What to do?
Got past it. Got lucky 😀
Won't work much longer. Chap 28 is just mid game
Help I keep dying to morvus
That obviously isnt my lineup its just so I can show all heroes
show ur heroes like the box of heroes
Tried mehira raku comp but failed
would you believe me if i said i used ainz, eironn, daimon, rowan, grezhul back then? 
powercap's a annoying back then
I used izold carry lmao. But before then it was just eironn safyia, gwyn Arthur, thoran cheese, and God comp. Only whales were past 33-32 so hardly anyone needed a 5th team. Good times lol
yup
But it did lead us to learn about the team comps more and actually have time to build up heroes. People these days are pushing chap 32 with 6 ascended....what server where you in?
706, but i have old stuff built like shemira/belinda/gwyn
Oh, I'm s494....me old I guess
Neither did I
was thinking about it, but nah
any idea?
They will always be e+ for me
Golus out for thoran
Where's albedo
Grez +30 was the worst one you could have done. He needs 9f
No-
Atleast get that mehira up to M man lol
Too bad i dont have my clears no more
Not priority for now. Getting Luc to 1* and building zol. Will do her after
Have to dig out ancient bs to find this piece of garbage out
Its overleveled i know, but its touching powercap back then
Oh wait, thats 32-11

ty
Getting wrecked by their mage here. Need help. What lineup?
put wukong in the front
For who?
uhhhh satrana idk
Il try it but he usually gets stomped and dies right away
What five people would make a good team ?
Don't level random heroes to 60,51,40, etc. you only need 5 heroes to be Leveled and the rest can go on the resonating crystal in the Ranhorn area.
So which ones should I focus on leveling?
For now I guess Kren, Lyca, Rowan, Wukong ( till lvl 100 ), and then Satrina because she is a beat early game for some reason but she will later fall off. Once they reach level cap replace them with people who have higher ascensions ( E, E+, L, L+, M, M+, etc)
Hey guys.. I’m stuck on 12-24 for a while and i can’t seem to clear it.. all heroes get stomped in a second and my carry follow after
Satrana? And thanks I’ll try to do that 😂
Any help for this stage ? I have a lot difficulty in these stages
Maybe it's my level?
helppp any tyty
hi, i need help, any comp suggestion?
@marsh ember i beat that but with oden in place of stitchy and brutus where rowan is
I haven't got oden yet. too unlucky in my pulls 
rip, could just afk until 180 and stitchy 220
theres two others on my friends list also level 70 player like me , one with stitchy comp who is at chapter 23, 180, 220
has same stuff at you, so its definitely doable
That's what I'm thinking, i hope that i got another daimon in my next pulls!
and oden too
i need two more to ascend and i have 3 mythic stitchy furniture, its very frustrating
my stitchy is e20, oden e30, but that was only done today, to get past 23
before 23 i didnt even use stitchy, just oden farael lucius rowan brutus
ur lineup is already good but daimon is really a game changer haha
yeah in 23 i had no choice but to push to 200 / 220 and get stitchy to e20, its what allowed me to get to 24
now im struggling again, i think i need 220/240
what server are you on?
s908
oh im on s911
Pls and suggestions i can use to beat this
Take Shem and Rosaline off for thoran and lyca
Ok thank ill let u know how it go
It failed
someone can help me ?
Do you have a Brutus and Lyca? Put Brutus, Lyca and thoran in the crystal then position it as Thoran, Brutus, Tasi, Mirael and Lyca
Having trouble with this one, ainz and Raku are in other battles
hlep
Reset Brutus's level to 220 and get Daimon to level 240. Replace Ainz with Lyca, Tasi, or Ferael.
oki
You need only 3 teams for ch 34 
those look like fun teams u have tbh
Thanks, I especially like the Morrow god comp, having a lot of fun with it and glad it works as good as it does lol
Check pins in #classic-questions
Sorry for the delay I had to submit a piece of homework
Try mishka frontline instead of saurus
Take safiya off your crystal and replace with arden
Put eironn middle back instead of Rowan
And put Rowan frontline next to daimon or where twins are right now
This comp’s archetype is called portal pull
Which basically focuses on eironn pulling everyone in and oden portaling someone to stun everyone
If you have a pippa, it helps solidify the comp even more.
You should stop ascending random heroes to legendary
Rn I am going for Silas mythic
should i get desira or lucious to ascended i run daimon rowan thoran
You gotta show your heroes 
On a scale of 1 to 10 how we lookin (bad, probably) im still trying to sort things out
I mean your full box as its a bit complicated to see from that pov
Thats fine, your first team can be rowan, Brutus, daimon, ferael and lyca (they both can be at e+ fera needs to stun and lyca just gives haste. If you don't struggle on the 2nd team that is.

Can someone pls make a good team for me pls
your daimon is 33 levels over the enemy - try front lining him (until he can't tank anymore)
dump shem/ira, try various combos of rosa (follow daimon)/lyca/rowan
alright
The way you have set up your roster makes it rather difficult to form meta teams, but I’ll try my best anyways
For your carry, you want to use ainz and eironn, maybe daimon once you get his 4th copy
For your tanks, you want to use anoki and Brutus or Oscar (Oscar as a dodge tank)
Your general formation should be something like
ainz
- anoki
Eironn - Rowan
Pippa/oden
Swapping Rowan for Brutus or Oscar when you need
From what I can see, honestly like a 7 (10 being the best). As long as you stop ascending random L heroes, you’re good to go
Go to your replays and copy the lowest power replay you can find. Lv 318 is enough for you to push to ch36 if you tried
Use Arthur and Rowan in the frontline, with daimon ,Lyca, and oden in the back
But my arthur is mixed with rowan 😭😭😭😭
The soul stuff
I used my shemira to do the soul stuff
Anyway what stuff do I use like the dura stuff that thing how is it called
This
Alright so i don't have a 9/9 lucretia, so i merc'd one but can't get it to work
This was the original comp i wanted but without an ascended nara it's no good, if i merc a nara is it possible with a 303 lucretia?
ur trying to 5pull a rosa which is going to be pain even if u are able to interrupt mehira, can u copy other ppls luc formations?
The ones close to my RC level is the screenshot i posted first
Also i don't have an ascended nara, so copying other clears is a bit of an issue since im power capped without one
guess u will have to rng it then, make sure u are using same artifacts btw. If u are then maybe brutus 3f may be hurting u if other clears dont have it, not sure since i cant see exactly what happens
Try with Lucretia on top
What would be a good burning brute team? I mainly uses grez (eye), a saurus merc, twins (eye), mortas (eye), and, mehira (eye) but wondering if there’s a better combo
Nvm thought you were someone else 
It’s best to copy whatever the top guy on your leaderboard uses for TR, as there are different metas for different floors
dint the lowest clear dude use albedo? throw albedo in, i think i used that comp back then as well
Albedo needs 3f because immunity
idk if he/she has that tbh
yeah, slap barricade on her as well
Wait, is that with the nara comp?
then its all rng, i rmb trying around 5-10 tries
I probably ainz that stage with nara pulling mehira
no, 5pull
Nara pull mehira and fera dodges some attacks on athalia
seems like an easy AAA+ferael, thing is
powercap buddy
, ainz comp low power as shit
Like this?
Weird thing my clear won't show on KT
go check the lowest clear guy
I think the lower clear uses five pull but with albedo cause her 3f (oops) makes her immune and can protect lucretia
Nah, albedo will be deleted. Put ferael in front of athalia, more chance of dodging attacks than albedo
3f*
Well I'm unsure if you can beat that with a 303 lucretia. If you couldn't beat it with that, you can merc an alna 
its been half a year alrd, so my clear is long gone lol
this is the lowest clear i can find, guess its just rng
yeah
oh wait, yeah its an albedo wtf im blind

Is this best for pvp for the heroes I have?
Nice!
bro what was your rc 😭 i cant even live for 6 seconds
idk man, its pre nerf bs probably around 250-270
I dont have grez built either
mine dies instantly lol
mines 200 and i have 4 heroes 240 wtf
thats cause theres no such thing as powercap nowadays at lower chap
my best attempt to recreate 🤡
your albedo have no 3/9 anyway. wont work
damn..
don't think I can deal with gorvo, only thing i got so far was brutus infront of him but he still decimates
Need sum help been stuck here for few days now
Anybody know a lineup I can use?
try this maybe
tasi
brutus
rowan
daimon
ferael
Hii I just started playing like a month ago, just looking for advice on who to invest in etc! Currently running eiron, lyca, Pippa, safiya, and skrianth/tidus. But I just pulled Rowan and thoran so 👀
First of all you should reset levels on heroes you don't use and stick the ones you do in the crystal
Prob just the 3, any advice on who to build
Na m8 I suck soz
any ideas on how to beat this, or would merc be the only way? (resets in like 15 hours)
I looked at the pins rack was a mentioned carry, should I continue past stage 4 or reroll
they get used later on in the game
Thank you
you generate them at chapter 18
you spend them to upgrade some exclusive weapon for any character that ascends to mythic
Any help is appreciated, moving forward to chapter 26, is thoran cheese the way to go? Game keeps tossing copies of him at me
Anything i should change?
You should put heroes in your resonating crystal
for different comps or ?
You're gonna need more than 5 heroes. Different heroes work better under different circumstances so you can't use the same 5 heroes everywhere
anyone has ziki's? need it for merc
What si is Rowan at
daimon is at 20 and right now im leveling rowans, its at 4
Kk bring up to 30
Energy potions are very cool
even tho im only chapter 14 ? thought first 20 and ill go to 30 when im more late
Trying to bring Rowan up to 30
gonna do my best, and call rather on rowan or daimon ? cant really decide
Do you have 2 call slots unlocked
nah its still on base level
Uhh prob Rowan idrk ask #classic-questions
aigh ty ty
What should I use?
Getting rekt hard by this stage. How can I beat this?
@pale kettle
I’m not very good with comps but I’ll try
Ok
Front row: Arthur Rowan back row: Nara daimon saf?
Try
Arthur rowan
Lyca gwyn rosa/fera
Yow np
Hi, I'm coming back to the game after quite some times, I'm wondering if I can do anything with that or if I should start over
Stuck on this level need help
Try to take a bear instead of the penultimate character (I don't remember his name)
Grezul?
Yes
Stuck on this arcane labyrinth lvl what should I use
I'm not pro. But u don't seem all that far in. You may benefit more from starting over on the newest server. And just statight following the pins for progression
Get some friends or guild so u can Merc a hero to help
Ch 31 off to a good start
cant u just cheese it? link antandra with lorsan, eironn pull saf and khasos
should i run shemira daimon or daimon omen?
Daimon and Oden
ok thanks, gonna continue AND start over xD
ty
Been stuck for days, what is the 120-140 strategy?
In general, dont invest in Shemira
why? i was told she is an op carry
Maybe in 2020
She kinda gets outclassed and falls off and falls off fairly early, ch 22
Lucr cheese?
Thoran cheese I assume
Thoran just doesn’t do enough damage, also thoran can only survive long enough to ult with Rowan
Is there any trick to ainz on this fight? I've tried several lineups already and Ainz doesn't get close to ult and PoP/joker/ezio dont even live till the fight ends as i've seen in many replays. I can beat this stage with luc but that Fucks my other stages
Need help pls
Any ideas?
its been 3h, maybe i should manual this? ainz is ulting after 15sec on auto but anyway maybe i need to ult with him and then with someone else, im so confused
Could someone teach me
Help im stuck here
Idk what else to try help?
Need help making a second and third team for ch33, my first main team is ainz,rowan,merlin,arthur,albedo, and they clear everything fine, but i struggle to create good team 2 and 3
@pale kettle mfw when I see suggest some team comps for you and I see a mf 309 luc right there 
lmfaoooo yeah i just stopped at 33-4 and just did dailies and tower lvling up and ascending units
but man i really suck at coming up with teams is what i realized so idk what team to throw for thoran and luc
@pale kettle
@gusty wolf rosa instead of oden? To follow mirael. Arden also in daimon's place so he can root add cc
cool ill save that ty
Could someone help me pass this stage?
Nice! Same for me. i just had to try multiple times :D
yea i still dont have furniture for it but lvl 293 is good
i have all 9 furniture for twins but not ascended yet
Yes, furniture is so random. I got Rowan to +3. i regret putting him on wishlit lol
i have so much furniture for stuff i dont have ascended yet
whats a good lineup for ToG? like no AAA
I've reached a point where all of my main heroes except 2 of them are stuck at level 100 because I don't have 2 copies of them. Is there anything I can do to combat this our just be lucky and roll them in the gacha.
Read the pinned beginner guide in question and should focus on fodder heroes to Lv.160
shouldi reset all my characters and level the 5 fodder heroes they show?
Yes it only costs 20 gems to reset
You can use other fodder heroes if you don't have the ones they refer to in the mean time
also if this is the best strat what's the point of ascending your normal lineup ever?
Make 5 L+ fodder hero, pray you got good carry, later make the carry your first ascended
because 3skill heroes will eventually capped at lvl 160, that's when you start ascending your 4skill heroes to pass through the cap
and ascending 3skill have nothing wrong in it (unless you use 4skill to ascend them
)
If you fail to roll a good carry then garrison ainz and use that as your carry
and raku is a good carry right?
If you get his +30, yes he is
...what's +30
Signature item 30
Raku shouldn't be your carry at your level. Since your heroes are after level 100, build Mirael
@pale kettle Arthur Gwyneth Rosaline, have u tried?
@rigid imp whats ur staple comp at ToG
eh, i haven't do any ToG for a while 
i'm waiting for complete AAA comp then i will do that later
ezio+daimon, or saurus cycle
nah we don't have saurus 30 yet 
but without saurus we don't have enough heal, desira have no gear, talene isn't fast enough, merlin and silas just kinda single heal (we have pretty much the same healer roster and they have almost no investment at all
)
in tog you mean?
almost all of em can be completed with just AAA, so not like saurus is worth much
only chaos need other comp, the newest tog also can be completed by AAA
whats a saurus cycle
i cant push ToG bc i dont know what team i should use lmao
i used AAA for all of em except the newest and chaos and got 36
this my box for reference
maybe, now my AinzAlbedo + merlin comp can only complete upto 16 because my ainz doesn't have enough dmg, maybe i'll try max reward later when i have ainz full t3, arthur 303 and merlin at 309 
completing AAA will took months cosidering the amount of resources to take and the dim exchange
just arthur +20 and albedo +30 is enough
yea thats my plan
truth did it back then with just albedo +30, ainz +20 and arthur +20 iirc
but the gears aredauting i mean rowan has better gear than ainz 
they all became the same, doesnt matter unless you have T3, its martial rating man
ToG is martial rating?
well i have no arthur yet, and my ainz is still very weak, only 1 t3 gear, other is just L tier filled
I'll wait for 9f then
yes

hmmmm i seee, i only need albedo to complete my AAA darn that da vinci ruined my investment
well, its just poe and some upgrade stuff, you can do later
AAA + rowan + talene should be good right ?
thats what i uses most the time, more heals the better
ezio is fine too, if your ainz cant finish em off
i dont even have merlin, so im not sure if merlin will contribute to it
yeah, merlin is just kinda suck in healing and waiting for him to use ult without 9f take years 
and i have no ezio yet
is E talene fine?
i wonder how can ppl pass no heal debuff tho, i tried the reduce healing and fukt up after like 2-3 battle
that needs saurus cycle and/or you need to kill immediately with ainz ult right as battle starts
end the battle in 1:29
they can somehow heal with no heal debuff ?
you mean saurus or AAA?
aight that counts 
oh the no heal debuff, i tot u meant the decrease heal
yeah no, that cant be done with saurus that revolve around heals
i normally uses AAA for that debuff, just 1shot them right away
yeah the decrease heal is pain but at least we still have some heal, the no heal is just straight nightmare
Been stuck a week anyone got some ideas
New server is treating me well 👀
About 5 hours in so far so fingers crossed rng stays with me
Been stuck for 1 day. Need help
Who sould i take considering my box?
Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
Ah sorry!
plz help stuck on chap 10
Anyone have any suggestions on lineup for 23-60?
Any comp idea? I'm stuck
Help pls:)
Need help pls. Thx!
how do i beat this? everyone except daimon dies too quick..
@old oar try
Brutus rowan
Nara antandra lucius
@velvet mountain
Brutus thoran
Daimon grandpa wilder nara
Or
Brutus daimon
Fera oden nara
Try to teleport grez using oden
@pale kettle
Daimon thoran
Tasi rowan lyca
@hardy canopy
Wukong rosa
Belinda safiya raine
@drowsy bridge
Thoran brutus
Daimon rowan grez
how do i do that?
@spare ginkgo dont make to many legendary heroes if you lack of copies
Saurus brutus
Raine, the nun , belinda
Also you need only 5 heroes to upgrade the other shud be put on crystal
Try first set up if its not work then try 2nd one using oden teleport skills just throw grez to the other side
stuck there, any tips on hero swap, tks
i can make a mythic belinda and nun
They both not really a gud carry but you could try tho
@vapid jungle
Fera rowan
Thoran daimon brutus
Or
Brutus thoran
Fera daimon rowan
Important to not level up more than 5 heros.
You have 11.
Reset at Rickety Cart in Ranhorne City.
Use those resources to overlevel your main carry.
o ok
Good to check out Reddit search AfkArena Beginners Guide. All good tips in one place.👍
tks alot, it worked 🙂
please help, can someone reccomend me a team for 27 and up
Is Ferael and Arden killing you? You can replace Thoran with Rowan. If you need to, you can replace ferael for lyca.
in the same position? it seems no matter what my team just get insta wiped
even tried going thoran cheese but the enemies on this level dont do enough damage to thoran to kill themselves
it seems thane is the big issue
Try Brutus, Lyca, Daimon, Oden, Ferael (take off mythic weapon if needed to stun fast)
i dont really have much mythic equipment either lel
thats fine
hmmm still no dice, team still dies in 10 secs flat, thane op
You can try to position Oden to pos 3, idk how Thane becomes op but Oden is op too so 
nvm somehow going back to thoran got me a win thanks for the help tho! @tight juniper any reccomendations for a proper team moving forward?
Nice, but your team will change depending on the stages so its not entirely the same
ok, im not sure when thoran cheese is supposed to be good, it seems that he doesnt t ake enough damage to actually kill enemies at my current chapter
At your level, its probably not good. Its best to use Daimon comps rather than cheese. Thoran needs +30 eventually too. Thoran cheese works for enemies that are higher levels or enemies that deal high damage (cough Solise and Flora)
is my current core with daimon oden and farael good? my rowan isnt +30 yet i feel thats a big factor limiting him rn
Its pretty good, Rowan 30 would eventually be good for daimon to ult. Brutus is also great for stalling for his ult. Its not too bad
worth getting brutus to ascended? or jsut keep him as elite + and get skreg or something up to asc first
Well he does work fine at e+, if you want to build Brutus to +20 and 3f, it extends his immune shield. But you lack some +20s from your formation so maybe not that high prio
i just started about 2-3 weeks ago
its tough getting multiple heroes up to +20 without spending alot
could i slot a alna into this team somehow?
An e alna can be used as a secondary brutus
ooh i see, i also see that everyone else in the replay battles is using lucretia cheese, how expensive is this to chase after?
they are using 220 teams same as me but seem to be way way ahead
i assume they tossed everything into stargazing lucretia
Ah I see this channel is actually active now
Having a little trouble--i probably have to get some more to red to help since im still fixing my fuckups but this boss is kinda tricky
Anyone wanna help me develop 2 teams? Reaching that point in the game where I need 2 for battles
I'll take that as a no
Im new just started 2 days ago, need help in my starting line up, who should be my main 5? I can level them up
Replace Rosa with lyca probably
Show heroes, idk what teams to give you 
Anyone able to assist me? Any help would be greatly appreciated 😄
Check pins in #classic-questions it doesn't show formations but insight on what to use for your teams
Noted thank you!
Who should be at the front beside Thoran?
Any other tank, like grez . Make sure you reset that hogan as you need to level 5 heroes
Noted thank you!
I tried sending my team and it said explicit content is involved
My main team is Daimon, Lucius, Morrow, Rowan and Fareal
@tight juniper
Oof, 309 Lucius.. second team can be used as Brutus, Hendrik/E Alna as a secondary brutus if you have her, Ainz, Tasi, and Lyca
Yeah,alot of people always bring up my Lucius. I did it cause he was my favorite until Morrow came out. Thank you though
Well he does fall off but as long as you like him, 
Ye and he's been doing pretty good still but I see he is starting to fall off
Which is a shame but I'm okay with it as I'm sure one day he'll get a buff
Also what does Hendrik/E mean?
Hendrik or elite Alna, do you a single copy of her? For now, she can be a secondary brutus
I have her at E+
Yeah, just use her as a secondary brutus, stall some time for Ainz ult

Need help pls?
What's a good replacement for Morael in today's circus? Tried Shemira and got top 30% byt trying for that top 10% so need to pull another 500m for that.
Lucretia/oden/chicken/kren
Ty, pulled 2b with Lucretia
Tip on this boss level
Any ideas?
Is this even possible at my level with the heroes I have
@velvet glade brutus, rowan, oden, fera, daimon. Chalice to rowan
Yes and stop making so many legendaries
Work on daimons SI to get it to +20
Any help?
New to this game, how is my lineup?
If it is really bad can you guys recommend me some good lineups with my characters.
Focus on getting Wukong to 60 read the guides in Questions very helpful
Mireal is very good you want her as a Cary later on after you get rid of Wukong during like chapter 7-9
thanks!
What’s would be my best lineup?
Comp ideas?
Any help pleaseast stage of my chapter
@hard forge Do you have an alternative to Nemora in 37-8-2?
This is what I've been trying but Solise is destroying me
That’s the only other one I know of, it didn’t work for me either
Like
Eironn teleported, charm goes off, everyone gangs up on lyca and eironn, they die instantly, then second charm, tasi dies, second charm ends and solice one shots the entire team
Somehow really consitent
How long did your rowan last there?
I just started playing this game and keep getting stuck. What’s the best lineup I can do with my characters?
@warm swan thank you Idk how it worked but it did with chalice on rowan
I'm stuck on this last challenge of misty Valley. Does anyone have any lineup tips? ;w;
Ainz with Nara
hmm ok! I will have to loan someone's ainz. tyvm
Read the pins
is it worth using a elite+ Shemira to ascend a fodder character to legendary?
maybe put brutus in front of daimon and thoran across from athalia idk
how is my team (i used the beginner guide thing)
It's perfect
then rush wukong to 100
ok
stuck on chapter 27, I still have my reset scroll and I think my frontline is just too squishy and idk what to do anymore
trying to send my box but discord doesn't like my attachments so im making an imgur. if anybody can offer help pls dm im fighting for my life here
oh my lord
Oof, engraved Belinda. At least you'll get an engraving reset next patch
I'm sure I've made some mistakes but I dont think she's my problem, I have lucius and daimon as my Frontline and lucius's favorite thing to do is fall over before he gets an ult off
I cant really engrave anybody else thatd bring me value though, those are my only characters with stars, and idk how to send this imgur album from my phone
Daimon is usually for backline as he's a carry that needs stalling. Welp, lucius and Belinda falls off too 
I know they fall off, my team has gotten me as far as I think they're gonna get me thats why I'm asking for help
this is the stage im on
Replace Belinda with brutus
ok well that was simple and worked first try, I've been throwing Brutus in place of lucius every once in a while but I've never replaced my dps with him
thank you, will probably still need help with my limited options in the future
I'm on chapter 17 rn
Is Rowan, Daimon, Rosaline backline,
Thoran and Brutus frontline a good team to go with?
Thats fine
@junior laurel seems pretty good but rosaline and daimon aren't really used together. You can use Lyca, Tasi, or Ferael instead
Alright then, so who would you recommend? I think Tasi and Ferael are only purple+ and Lyca is only purple
Well lyca can be used as elite and so can tasi and fera. Fera for stuns, Tasi for banish, and Lyca for haste and 70/100 energy
I need help with 14-4
stuck bad
Beating a dead horse here, but any ideas?
I need advice I've been stuck on this stage for some while now
Got it finally haha
you have thoran?
Nope
Need help real bad.
I've been close but I just get shredded by rosaline
you can try run a few more times, might just be rng with rosa
Ye I'm just stuck i keep getting shredded by her
@pale kettle
Rowan lyca
Nara daimon tasi
@cloud forge
Daimon thoran
Nara rowan gassman
@pale kettle pull rosa with nara
Lucre brutus
Lyca nara lorsan
@old oar
Lucius brutus
Nara rowan antandra
Lucius energy art
i started playing 2 days ago and i wanted to know which characters i should focus on and if i can make any decent line ups with the characters i have
Daimon till ascended and then grezz fera thoran etc just keep spamming the scroll on graveborn save some dias for stargaze to get lucretia
okay thank you
plz help in this stage anyone?
anyone?
Guys, Who can tell me what's debuff i have to put It, to do this One, With saurus cycle?
Take off silas and put lyca.
ty
Done?
yes and easy one
Hey Everyone! New (ish) player here and in need of some advice for a stage/general progression strategy. Stuck at 21/60 atm, game kept throwing shem at me so she's my carry.
Swap Rowan / Shemira, or Rowan with Lyca. Also I'd throw shem off wishlist for now if you got her on there.
Get albedo 3f asap then you can replace one of the supports with a throwaway hero to proc it. Swap Diamon and Tasi.
@high marlin ah, I've cleared that and then some. Thanks though, def will get albedo 3f
your hero are really spread out, you have tons of heroes but most are partially done lol
Yeah, accounts all over the place. About to get Gorvo, Oden, and Pippa, that'll open up another team for me, gazing for Luc,
Any suggestions? @drowsy gazelle
first of all, get that thoran to +30, pippa +20. makes a whole lot easier with cheesing
like scar said, albedo 3/9 and thats 2 comp
5pull lucre, with her +30 you can finish hopefully. thats 3 comp
last comp can be daimon+rando
Luc is at si28 atm, alright sounds good. That'll help a ton once I get those few missing pieces, super close. Weeks away.
after albedo gets 3/9, you can take away rowan already and can be either used in daimon+charm or just anywhere
Perfect. I updated my tavern and inn wishlist wayy late in the game, killing me now lol
ehh~, its not that bad, atleast you have lucretia early. i dont
90 deficit campaign, 140 deficit KT, she'll still be useable at si30 M in luc5pull?
90 deficits are pretty low and should work perfectly
Cool deal, just a few missing key pieces there haha
thats why i said, you have tons of hero but partially complete lol
Just got Pippa to si20, will get Thoran si30 after I finish Lucretia (29/30).
Short on fodder for Oden, think I'll need 3f for him.
Any idea how to beat this stage? Is it even possible with my level deficit?
have you tried looking afkhelper?
your roster is way stacked than to be stuck here
I haven’t, i’ll give it a try. Is it a website or?
Thanks
help plz
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Nara
Try that
Help please, already looked up, copied the teams suggested but can’t pass it, best try got me to the enemies frontline still standing with less than 10% hp and the rest Dead
Any line up pointers plus I got 1 space in crystal idk who for tho
you need to ult at 1:17 on only thoran
So I shouldn't follow up with Lorsan's ult ?
Every enemies are still alive, I guess our Thoran is just not good enough for now
Thanks
it should be same for all players
Any ideas for this? Front line heroes keeping dying in like 3 seconds
check afkhelper
It gets worse dw
hey, youre like 10 floors above me. levels did alot huh
What rc are you
329
Yeah it helps you to not get powercapped
Need help pls.
i also need some help, im just not doing enough damage and am getting outlasted
I finally did it
should i go wu kong-antandra-isabella-khasos-solise or wu kong-antandra-skriath-khasos-solise?
Go into #classic-questions and read The pinned Messages.
probably just swap your top backline for your bottom backline
Should I be ulting manually for this comp to work or something ? Many people using this on afk helper like 40 lvls lower than me but I’ve done hundreds of retries now with no luck
Here's a clip how am I ment to beat this getting owned
Never mind I did it only took about 100 attempts
@low apex yeah that stage was so rng for me. I used skreg there because I had no alna. Most of the time my heroes were getting one-shot.
The unit that has been carrying me for the past 5-10 chapters up til 28
I've made very bad decisions playing this game but I find those 5 the most helpful to me throughout this game. Can I do better (without using the "hero meta") or don't fix what ain't broke for me?
Should i make a graveborn team + kong?
You're too earlygame to decide on that, keep using kong till he falls off(around level 100) then you can transition to mirael/gwyn carry middle background
Why did you garrison albedo without ainz also that shem isnt helping you, a smarter choice would be to garrison ainz and link him to shem so you could use him and albedo together
Are you close to building daimon? He's really good there, also read pinned beginner guide, all those random L heroes were mistakes.
what is a good team i can use for the circus event thing
are rowan and tasi good together
why are your levels in yellow?
that's what happens after breaking the 240 cap
ohhhh
all leveled heroes are leveled equally, and in yellow
i see
I think my inn is glitched, did this for two heros and there’s nothing being built
maybe other section ?
this is not 5 pull btw, it also needs a 3f skriath
Try using oden and ferael in place of lyca and eironn, if lucius ults its gg most probably, you need to prevent them from doing that
you don't need lyca there, use ferael instead
that's the standard eironn + thoran with daimon comp
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738410239677956197/810165808830480384/2021_02_13_23_03_591_454x806.mp4
i rmb doing something similar 
wow, daimon dmg really is capped at higher rating
why u send r2 again i want see your thoran one lol 
It's 6am lad my heads fried
lolz. i actually dont remember wtf i used, think u wanna add me and grab a pic?
cause i forgot
You reckon a 9f thoran merc would work?
you do realise merc gets T2/T3 right
Right, should i just 9f my lucretia and ainz clear this shit stage and lucretia the ainz one
I really don't wanna back outta the fight D:

fuck it, added
lol
can u send me ss as well? i rely have no clue what i used
probably some lucretia bs

janky ass, good luck copying it
wait, i did lucretia on that flora
i always tot i daimon+ainz a flora, maybe its the further flora stage and not this one
ye shes 303 for me dno if it'll work but im trying it rn
Who’s the best hero to use as a carry that I have?
any line up ideas
eironn maybe idk
wait for more heroes but as of rn
desira
---daimon
nara
---shem
isabella
okay thank u
Need help on this stage, I got close on a few attempts with 2 surviving ofc tasi was one of them coz why wont she be
why try so hard 
does my team look weaker than it should be for this stage? I think I have pushed pretty hard and was thinking of taking it easy in chpt 30 so that I can get myself stronger for 31. what do you think?
well i think you can stop pushing and focus on lvl for awhile, definitely can push through with enough rng, but really, why try so hard when it make you feel tired 
yeah I think this is what i'll do xD. the thing is , i like seeing my name in the wall of legends but yeah not worth it in the end. I'll get some levels and gear for now
ferael
lyca
oden
brutus
daimon
try this, if ferael gets 1 shot before oing his fear, replace lyca with thoran. ogi should get teleported on niru, thats the plan atleast. Let me know what happens
try
daimon
brutus
rowan
lyca
oden
Bro you are a life saver!!! I did that set up but I put daimon front and lyca bottom left
It worked?
Yep first try haha.
:))
I was trying builds from the chapter help website. And builds in game and random stuff for days
Yeah, happens. Just post the stages here if you get stuck, someone will surely help
you have a very good pool of heroes to work with, if you understand where to place heroes and why, you'll make it far in no time. For example the stage above that i helped you with, the aim was oden teleporting golus on top of brutus. Daimon can deal a significant amt of damage with brutus to tank for him and energy from rowan. Oden and lyca can die after doing their work, they are not needed after that
Wait wait wait. You can control odens portals???
Oden
>>lyca
rowan
brutus
daimon
if silvina targets oden, replace him with a ferael
it can be unpredictable at times but mostly yes, you can predict the first portal more ofthen than npt
I’ve been stuck on ch 26 for about a month now. I make it a few levels then stop and so on. And I’ll give that a try.
I’ve been playing for like 2-3 ish months and I’m trying to understand the mechanics but there are so many hero’s 😂. I barely know my main hero’s abilities
She went for oden but he lived and passed
It targets the enemy with the highest percentage of health and throws them to the weakest
went from 18-40 to 19-3 0_0, this was a tough stage but what I did was
ferael
thoran
daimon
brutus
nara
if that doesn't work try oden in place of ferael
Sometimes he does some weird stuff tho on the same stage with the same team, portals different targets to different locaations even if everything is the same
yw
The moment you got 5 pull + luc si30 and furniture 9
Chapter 30 was finished in 1 hour xD
Has anyone done 35-8 recently? I'm fed up with https://i.imgur.com/73rKDgP.png at this point, 3 hours of no luck. Anything special about this cursed stage? Thoran ults but the enemies just refuse to die.
Have you tried afkhelper?
Might be gear problem or thoran ulting to fast and not getting enough dmg
I tried everything at this point
3+hours wasted on this stupid stage that is pretty much a copy from afk helper
asking here as last resort before I just lucretia this crap
just daimon them?
these thing should be pretty easy for daimon
Send help
How come you’re in chap 31 with resonating level 220?
Nvm…I saw an ascended Lucretia 
whitedeath reach ch30 with rc 220, but he have a 30 raku too 
Daimon outdated..? Maybe I should raise a raku next
not really, he's just having hard when his teammate die too fast, raku there allow daimon to ramp up easier 
How???
Whats my current best line up?
And should i feed sylas into thoran and turn thoran into ascended?
@foggy canyon Do not use acended tier heroes to ascend heroes.
Terrible, you’ve wasted so many fodders
i think lorsan link belinda with something ?
i bet that thoran have enough energy to ult
I don't have a Lorsan. Guess I have to be stuck here.
Luc si30 9 furniture and 5p
nah lorsan only need E is enough, just give him enough haste to link (don't tell me you don't have even 1 copy of him
)
Daimon does his ult to slow even with call
Not sure if this is the right chat for this, but I've got to a point where Lucius just isn't pulling his own weight anymore, and I have a swap scroll, if I am to swap scroll him, which tank should I replace him with? I was thinking either daimon or thoran.
Arthur
My current lineup is Ainz, albedo, arthur, and nemora (changing nemora with merlin soon)
Hmm arthur already built ?
Lmao you can’t swap dims dude

almost, mostly t2 gear with 30SI in a couple days
swap him with grez then bring grez to 9f, grez should carry you through some trouble if you have decent cc
also t3 grez too
Longhop
maybe put something to bait that gorvo so he won't jump straight into your daimon
and don't put daimon too close to rosaline, she blow him up with kitchen gun

Would grez be able to stay up for a while? I'm looking for a character who can just stay alive longer than Lucius does now
Hey guys stuck on my first 3 multi fight ://
definitely much longer when he can use his ult once (you will need some cc support, grez is pretty sustain on his own)
Stuck on Stage 33-4
Here’s my roster:
Sick, I'll probably get Lucius up a bit higher then swap scroll then, cheers for the help
but you will need 9f for grez to deal actual dmg, otherwise his dmg is just bad
raku to 30, use him with mehira (windbinder)+rowan
Yeah Grez at 9F pops off otherwise he’s not very good
It’s a 3 stage fight lmao
I can destroy the strongest with ainz by the other two completely destroy me
any ideas besides ✨cHaRmiZaRd✨ ?
i tried some ainz comps but didnt work either
with ainz, merlin, albedo, rowan
1 ainz comp, 1 daimon comp, 1 raku + charm comp should be enough
ainz,albedo,merlin,arthur + 1 flex (save rowan for 3rd fight)
daimon,grez,thoran with 2 flex
raku,mehira,rowan with 2 flex (usually lyca and 1 tank or rosaline,make rosaline follow mehira)
for ainz comp if ainz can't survive until he ult them just put someone at frontline so they die immediately and activate albedo sign (not merlin, he won't count), save rowan for other fight is better than using him there
Need help beating 30-44 with this roster, tried every combo that came to my mind and also tried copying ones from afk helper. Please advise.
does your ferael have weapon?
you should remove it
He does have it
yeah remove it then place the comp like this
daimon
brutus
rowan
thoran (give him barricade)
ferael (give him dura's eye)
after ferael using his fear ezizh will cc him, allow daimon to use ult without interuption in a short time if he have enough energy
Will try that thanks. Mind telling me what changes when I remove the weapon?
with mythic weapon ferael will try using his accursed arrow first (have longer arming time than normal attack) which slow down his fear (his fear appear after tasi using banish)
so remove weapon allow him to use normal attack first then use fear immediately, and hopefully that stop tasi from using banish (which usually leave your daimon in 1vs5 situation)
Understood, thanks a lot for explaining that
Daimon still dies after 1 or 2 ults, will tinker with this for a while tho
most probably is just rng
hook raine, raine is the main reason that make your daimon can't ult
also put brutus front of daimon instead
Hey everyone could I get some help with this stage?
Thanks a lot, will try
Nah ainz survives lmao even ainz albedo Merlin beat the first fight
3v5 I mean
Anyone that can help?
what's the strongest team i can get for arena with these?
i have no idea how to help, maybe you should start building daimon using hcp
Ok
i dont understand how people on afkhelper have daimon at 180 ascended and have him do 5-6m damage
just rng, daimon have to use blood suck/ult when having his blood shield to deal reasonable dmg
yeah but even at 200 he almost gets oneshot before he can ult (with call)
any ideas for me? or just replay until it works
does your ferael have weapon?
if yes then remove it, move your ferael to opposite of enemy ferael, he might fear them and allow daimon to use ult and start ramp up
yeah, you only give him weapon again when he have 9 furniture to proc the 3/3 ability more often (if you want fast fear you can remove the weapon and 1 furniture to make it 8/9 too)
alright cheers
It heavily depends on stage, sometimes faster fear allow wins or even slow fear allow wins. So try both with fast and slow fear cause you might win with slow whereas fast fear wouldnt
yeah, but from my experience you will always need fast fear for ferael and tasi stage, other is depend
Not really, when enemy ferael starts using accursed first too, slow fear will directly cancel enemy ferael fear whereas fast fear will just delay enemy ferael fear
Which is around chap28/29 as enemy ferael will start use accursed
ah, the ferael+lyca stage
After those chapter, ferael will start using accursed anyway since they have T2 and above
sadly even with weapon our ferael can never out-fear enemy one (both use arrow), unless we give him much higher haste with lyca or some other attack speed buff heroes
Not quite? I dont know if its chap36 thing but mine still outfear enemy ferael, cancelling their fear
maybe its because of other enemy then, arden is one of those
nah, ferael hit enemy with arden shield and got his attack slowed, then when the 2nd attack happend it's time stop 
look really hilarious, his total attack time after that is like 4-5s iirc
Lol
hmm but now i realize that arden shield slow affect daimon even if he's not attacking enemy with the shield (his doll does that)
it slow daimon down, make him having a hard time buff up when facing arden
They count as one entity anyway
hmm, so the heal from stichy is actually the dmg that daimon take ?
i thought stichy take dmg but can't die (well it does die with reaper effect)
Isnt it from stichy? He attacks enemy and then grab those b4 healing daimon
what is that ?
if its historic peak then you can leave it there and comeback later
with correct relic choice you shouldn't have a hard time dealing with those
definitely ainz (get one have 309 with warden of the arcane)
I defeated that with some efforts in chapter 26 or something. Dont think you should tryhard on that one
can you show your box as well? Might be easier to help
you can retry it with merc ainz, take as much attack relic as possible (maybe 1 life leech if you could)
try to save ainz energy and use ult that 1 shot all enemy, if he can't then don't use 2nd ult (if all 5 enemy still survive then you can use 2nd ult, less than 4 is not recommended), let him autoattack and clear leftover enemy so he have full energy for next fight
What’s best pvp line up I can use? Eironn and Farael are +20 // the rest are +10 //
PLS help
found th emain issue, my oden didn't have enough combat rating so grezhul wasn't shielding with relic - i took off furniture and beat stage in 1 try lol
Could someone help me
Try this
daimon
thoran
rowan/tasi
lyca
oden
let me know if this worked
I would reset eironn, estrilda and gwyneth. Make them lvl 160 and upgrade daimon all the way as much as you can, getting him to lvl 200 and +20 signature is the first priority.
After resetting others and lvling daimon try this maybe
daimon
brutus
eironn
estrilda
ferael
you might wanna use lyca if eironn cant pull in place of estrilda
Send help 
A ok ig
I think you just need some rng to make it work, lineup looks good. Ferael stages are rng, hope he doesnt stun daimon. And remove the weapon from your own ferael if you have it on
Oo ty
did it help?
Ye, but I'm change lyca at gwyn
gwyneth wont help you much, lyca is a good support
Why remove weapon?
Is it to fear first because it gives haste? I think I read something about that
yeah weapon has some haste, removing it makes him fear faster
its a hidden stat i think
Can someone help me make a pvp loadout
Anybody that can help me?
Daimon
Thoran/Brutus
Oden
Lyca
Ferael
Help
Can someone help me with this stage please?
I would really like to get it done before daily reset
Tbh looks very pain without a carry
Yeah you should invest in tidus or Antandra
Try swapping Brutus for skregg and vurk for satrana
Ainzbedo crushes this easy, dunno why you’re not using them
Not si30 albedo, daimon is better carry becouse no investment for ainz comps
20 sig is underrated with that defense bro. Ainz already would be able to wipe this, even without Albedo.
nah he isnt, u guys in higher chapters undervalue earlier teams tbh, i did 20 retrys with my ainz comp and he aint cutting it
You’re at a 70 deficit with an 30 engraved +20 sig. If you’re not willing to at least listen to other people’s ideas why are you posting here in the first place?
Albedo thoran ainz rowan fera
any ideas? I'm trying to kill Isabella asap but I don't think it will work even with 100s of retries
never got enough elite coppies of them
don't think not using brutus is a good idea, they all die so fast, warek and skreg included, I need brutus's passive to stall
Swap Warek out then. Either way this is gonna be difficult with the maulers you have right now. I would try to grab kren and either invest in satrana or grab Antandra/tidus
do i get my albedo to 220 or link her to daimon
I have enough elite coppies of Drez to ascend him but not kren, antandra nor tidus
though im missing fodder rn
Drez is bottom tier, so is vurk
kinda wanna get it done today tho, I seriously need the SG cards and essence
would get my crystal to lvl 400 and would probs get me my last elite coppy of lucretia to ascend her (I have 9furn waiting for her)
drez good in AbEx, im a huge AbEx fan
get ur lucretia
You’re a few chapters away from multifights, so 220 Albedo would be nice.
bruh I need the SG cars for that XD
diamonds 
Do not build your entire hero roster over some thing that has happened four times in two week periods Over the last 2 1/2 years
what about I do anyway
Sorry, 9 times if you count trials
for me all the rest of the game is just grinding to prepare for AbEx
Do what you wanna do but drez cannot push deficits and you already have to deal with vurk and warek.
We’re talking about maulers
im stuck at 107 deficit 😂
brutus best carry for tower
brutus and kren
wait antarda with engraving is good too
yeah tbh very tempted to build antandra next
to hero choice for her after I get my last luc from SG
or for kren
or tidus
i am legit going for gorvo after i get myself 3 teams ready
666m gold...
what about it? O_o
is it too little?
or I don't spend it enough?
am I doing something wrong with my gold? XD
О боги…
Rowan was replaced by arrow deer chick, they all keep dying 
Box ?
Swapping out rowan was not the move here. Try Lucius lyca mirael rowan daimon
Your hero list
didnt work
the 3 in the back of the enemy team last long enough 2 take them out, rowan and lyca are usually the first before the rest follow before their abilities get triggered
Guys, I'm looking for some advise regarding PvP. I finally managed to get Zolrath so I'm interested in improving the typical 5-pull comp except that I don't have Zaphrael and I don't want to use Alna since she's already being used with a GB comp. Any suggestion?
What should i get Alna or Rare Cards?
New to the game, good lineups from my somewhat limited selection?
Rowan
If I switch for my Rowan what will happen to my Merlin cause I don’t have anyone whose offensive
What abt izold
Who’s my gaze priority? Just got Luc to 1*. 5 copies from A khazard. Mortas at E+. 0 copies of morael
Anyone got a SS for 36-60
these kinda questions can go in #classic-questions, also whats her furn and si?
First message in pins
ty
Nani? Why he don't cast his 2nd ult
because there is no enemy
Hello
flora at sky doesnt count as enemy, so he wont do anything
Ah so I need to rng for flora to get down
just as flora came down, her flower killed him
What is this
i hate flora cheese for this reason
Engraving rewind, it says there itself where you reset engraves. 
Just need to rng this thing then
This belongs on #classic-questions, go there
Ok
Complain strat works lmao
lol
Now just left at ainz not working as r5
gl
Thanks 
ima working ciao
Oh gl too
Pain
Anything I can do here?
Hey! Really new here both game and the Discord. So I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on who of my guys to focus on and use as main team? 😁
I suggest reading the guides pinned in #classic-questions
Aaalrighty then, sorry.
Gah so close to 250 but stuck here

