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Try Rowan over brutus, and no clue what to put on merlin
whos the potion meant for then? albedo?
Tasi
Tasi's SI is 10, should I make it +15 for the haste bonus?
If you can
There shouldn't be anything killing her quickly
think Numisi 1 shots her
Help
@ebon hazel can u help plz I’m stuck
Not really
I don’t have any team that can beat that line up?
@rigid ether it's generally best to overlevel your carry. Instead of 120, go 140. Also, post your entire box for better help :)
I heard it’s bad to go to legendary without having enough to get to legendary+ is that tru?
I don’t have enough to get daimon to legend+
It's usually best to work on making L+ out of non-A heroes first, since you'll have easier access to fodder and copies. If you haven't, check out the pinned guides here and in #classic-questions.
I need honest and good advice.
Daimon is mythic +
All legendaries i own are +
I switch lyca with ferael sometimes
Whay my team is lacking? What should i do next?
This is my daimon.
This is my collection of this faction
( i been playing for 4 days now. Vip 10)
Wise one where are you i need guidance 🥺🙏
dont chose any they are all good heroes
Hook the mirael she is annoying
@dense herald not really much to do for now. Maybe brutus instead of thoran. The occasional arden for cc.
And that eironn is not l+ tho 
But yeah, looking good for 4days of playing
Who should be my next mythic
I can make anyone mythic
Silas
Thorann
Brutus
Grez
Lyca
Ferael
I wanted to say rowan. 
But out of those, def not brutus. And not thoran. So either fera, lyca, grez. I'd go with fera.
I wish but i only have 1 x rowan
The rest i have their full copies
Should i start using faction souls for LB
Or continue on GB
Still gb. You can hcp rowan later on
Opinion time, should I farm more Niru and bump to leg+ to boost up Shemira for carry, or do Nara/Fer instead? 10ish days in, on chapter 13-22.
Daimon will be your carry, you can feed shemira to him as she is notably useless.
You'll also want to check out the guides pinned in #classic-questions for some tips like how to overlevel your carry, not spread fodder thinly, etc
not QUITE useless, just cause those are the only leg+ chars I have so far :D, but I considered the daimon boost, but still need more of him
3 copies left for daimon, not too bad assuming you get someone good ascended from another faction and unlock HCP to finish him off, and that's assuming you are horribly unlucky and don't get any more copies of him from scrolls/cards
Shemira is the 'safe' option but she'd literally just be an ascended benchwarmer with how she pales in comparison to even mediocre carries
That's fair, so even losing the leg+ max level benefits, I should go ahead and eat her for Daimon?
I played quite a bit year+ ago, and just now picking back up so in the back of my head Shemira is still a beast, even tho so far I know she isn't
You can refrain from eating her for now, but prioritize daimon as your next ascension
need help here thanks
Hey all. Been playing for a while on and off but looking to optimize my afk experience recently. Here’s my current lineup. Haven’t really consulted any guides or anything for the most part while so if it looks weird that’s why lol. Any tips or advice at all is welcome. I’m on 28-26.
Yo, shemira is 3furn, Rowan is +30. What could be better here?
Getting an ainz and feed that shemira to him
Joke btw
@rigid imp what did u used here
iirc i used something like
thoran
daimon
ferael
rowan
grez
but that could be wrong, i use grez a lot from these stage even tho he's not 9f yet
dude ezizh stage sucks 
Dw I agree
yeah, my experience is place daimon as close to ezizh as possible, otherwise the fight just fukt up when ezizh mind control daimon 
it least we have win chance when daimon isn't controlled
ideally i would use this
daimon
rowan
ferael
brutus
thoran
but i might use merc hero there (luc 5-pull) too because my memery is bad, i should post those stage on afkhelper
Yeah I’ll just wait a couple days
Too hard for rn
if i have estrilda then those 3 slot in front of enemy eironn could have another strategy, sadly i'm not
Can someone help me build a good team and their formation? I know that I didn't follow the level up the fodders first from the guide. I just want to enjoy the game. Thanks.
@pale kettle you say you want to build a good team but you don't want to follow the guide because you want to enjoy the game. Some conflicting information there 
Well my point is I didn't follow the level up the fodders first 'cause like I said I just want to enjoy the game. Well I can also just Rickety Cart the A tier heroes to level up the fodders in the future. Like I said I just want to enjoy the game 'cause this is my first time playing this game so that's why I am asking for help about good team composition or lineup.
help here thanks
another ezizh stage 
but what did i used here ?
help here thanks
@fiery wing
ainz
brutus
rowan
thoran
daimon
or change brutus to lyca
@rigid imp got it with ainz

getting hammered need help
@rigid imp got it with ainz
@pale kettle those units were my bread and butter from ch13 to 31 idk how ut works so well
Wdym
i mean thats my most used lineup but its weak againts ferael
daimon ainz roan brutus lyca
Lol that didn’t work for me for this though
Any help they have triple the power then me everyone does instantly and Nemora just heals them constantly
Lol that didn’t work for me for this though
@pale kettle
lyca
brutus
daimon
rowan
ainz
getting hammered need help
@sick oasis make daimon 180 before leveling up your 147 units
oh thats gunna be a while i got 0 exp 😦
@sick oasis try
ferael
thoran
rowan
daimon
silas
or change thoran to brutus
Any help they have triple the power then me everyone does instantly and Nemora just heals them constantly
@warm maple try
ferael
rosa
silas
lucius
daimon
Who should Rosa be with @leaden glacier
daimon
@leaden glacier Nope she dies by kaz
Still struggling
dosnt work not even close (never mind that it worked) ty
@sick oasis oh you got it. Nvm then. Gz
i got it to work i dont no how but rng was on my side i guess
That's the complain strat at work
hehe now time to get stuck in chapter 15 dw ill be back 😄
thats the reason why this discord exist, go complain in #classic-chat then miraculously won
This works perfectly well for me @night musk
Gorvo (can be E+ with barricade)
Luc E60
Eironn
Skriath
Lyca
Thank you. I’ll give it a try now ❤️
Sure thing
you can also sub gorvo for brutus or something for barricade
sometimes i slotted tidus in just for the initial cc
I use gorvo on that one, since brutus is used on another comp
fair
i always use skreg as a sub for brutus in luc cheese gorvo is interrsting
Gorvo will leap after eironn pull, good CC for luc
i uses skreg inside kren so i cant sub much, plus i dont even have lucretia so my chocie is a limited xp
i havent seen kren used in campaign
well, if you have a very built roster, kren is not used much
i dont really follow the meta anymore, so i just build whatever i like and use em
It worked. Luckily I have 5* 309 E60 Lucr merc ready to go lol.
Congrats 
Thank you. Hopefully I won’t see too many Flora stage after this. Freaking nightmare 🥲
Next will be 44 and 48 for multis, there is flora stage on single stage but you can just ainz it
there is 3 more
2 multis with double flora team and 1 single stage flora
stuck, need help
how do i beat this?
Can you guys just give me 1 squad?
Welp, I have a level 180 Ascended Level Shemira... How hard am I gonna regret this?
She also has a +20 sig item
Overleveled, stuck, and confused. If you give me a solution to this stage, let me know why so I can learn from you and hopefully ask less questions in the future.
Thoran Rowan Lyca Eironn Lorsan, should be a possible cheese, your ains comp seems pretty underdeveloped arthur wants 3f, ains wants 9f and fera has been phased out of usage of that comp for the most part now, atleast for multis
?
You did more dmg to them overall so they’re probably still alive due to nemora

So get a healer and the most durable team wins
Yea ik that bitch is the problem
That wont work they got tessi nemora and the tree
Use joker and Fereal
Didnt got joker and tried fereal but didnt work
The skruggle. Any suggestions? I’ve tried so many ways
Or use that teleporting guy to mess up their formation @proven river
Pain
Tried that already
Already used that
But i get a accended arthur in 2 days with 3 furniture and 20 SI, is that helping
Got a replay ?
I'll give her about 100 retires with Thoran, hopefully I cheese. Yeah, my account is very underdeveloped. I'm just trying to make due as far as I can before I stall, and build my Heroes.
This is the formation Thoran survives most at, after about 30 retires he can only kill about two of them. Maybe I should keep on retrying?
Do I rng the crit here?
That is hell
Very useful but I won’t say yes
My lucerita pull is super weak and rarely wins in pvp, I need help with my pvp comps...
put eironn at back middle, then lorsan at back top. rosa follows estrilda, so all 5 will most probably be together to get 1shot by thoran. thoran should only have weapon+boots
Oh yeah?? Why should Thoran only have weapon and boots, I have never heard of that before. Perhaps to get his ultimate off quicker?
more dmg soak in, helmet+chest have like PR and dodge
if deficits is high enough, those dont really matters but you gotta make do with evreything since u dont have enuf dmg
Gotcha. Thoran is dying before he gets his ultimate off, but I've only given it 5 or 6 retires. I'll spam it for a little bit here and come back with an update.
make sure only he gets call, other hero gets nothing
Alright, only he has Call, I took off everything on the others, in just a few retries I've killed 4 with thoran. This is the first time I've semi gotten thoran cheese to work, I'll give it a considerable amount of retries.
who is left? is it rosa? if it is rosa then its just rng
let me know when you beat it, stuck on the same stage
Lucius, mostly with his shield, and I'm chopping that up to RNG as well.
U might need to link him with lorsan then, easier to kill that way
Wait u did alrd
How exactly do I do that, line Lorsan up across fron him?
Yea
Just put lorsan to his face, then thoran at rowan's place. Rowan then at the back
Gotcha
Alright with that, Athalia is able to survive with a little bit of HP. I'll keep retrying here, seems to be the best formation.
I've never used Thoran cheese, so this is all new to me.
Also foreign to Lorsan mechanics, not quite sure how he even works with his link.
Try searching thoran cheese by pippi in google, he has a very detailed guide for cheese
Will do, thanks man.
Also need assistance
Try Nara opposite mirael
help plz?
That worked perfectly
if u find isabella in a stage always put nara that will make easy to win
Try switching nara and the support graveborn with weird green liquid and needles
Cause ira isn’t a big threat IMO
I know that I was just testing some ideas but no good
I will test now what u said
same formation switching nara with silas still no use
now I really need help anyone
Maybe try luc in middle
I will try now
that was the closest thing to win but I got one shot from mirael
you got anoki or smtg?
Idk man I'm fairy new but I used her upto chapter 13
anoki initial shield can block thoran's taint, im not sure if it can block banish, but worth a try atleast if u wanna
Any tips on who I should be working on coz I'm not overly sure
Shouldn't have made L+ farael or shemira when you had daimon..
I didn't have daimon then I got 4 copy's in last 2 days
Havent got anoki
rough, not even a copy?
Ty mod
U just replace daimon with anoki anf see if lucretia get banished
Anoki absorbs banish
Cause, u just need lucretia to deal dmg as ur other hero die
Finallyyyy
Turtle fucks me
In what way?
xD only 4 heros
At the beginning when he slams to the ground
try moving lucretia around, his jump is towards the most congested area
and since hes physical, meaning you can technically dodge it
Also when i get it luc got to less dps to finish turtle and tree
throw in lorsan
Turtle still survives
rng maybe?
take out lyca
Without her eironn doesnt pull
Which Ainz line up is best for pvp? I see many various, but not sure personally
he shouldnt have problem pulling, put call on him
Ok
did u remove his gear? just put it back on if so
Luc dies to fast i get the pull
put her backline? try to experiment yourself and see, cause i dont have access to the real-time i cant exactly know what advice is best
Problem is always when she wanna go to the croud the turtle body slams in her way
i dont think you have barricade yet right?
I got it
He gits gud with dura call 5* and wep and boots both t2 ONLY
Got turtle down to 1 hp but he stuned me fucking game

Turtle again 1 HP Fuck this Game such trash
@frosty imp try switching lucius into position 3, thoran in position 2, then tasi in position 1. And make rosa follow mirael instead. Can also opt for removing tasi and putting lyca instead
Also random suggestion maybe try to put daimon in resonating crystal he is really good
Oden
------rowan
Fareal
------grezuhl
Ainz
Maybe ?
Grez and ainz are bonded
Hodkins for grezuhl then ?
Why are you trying to avoid using daimon sheesh
Stupid question sry but where is positon 2 etc?xd
Doesn’t really matter ainz dies anyway
Front bottom
Oh ok thx
Which one get oden ported ?
done but still fail
Brutus
scrap taht!
I still cant beat them :(
Did mirael ult? How many times? Who did tasi banish?
Merc a fat nara to interrupt mehira's bats
I do have a Nara
I still fail either way
Hence the "fat" part 
Does she interrupt mehira's bats at least?
I need to put my t2 boots brb
She ulted 2 times and tasi banished isabella
Yes @warm swan
And nobody died on the enemy side even after that? 
@warm swan istg if I had Ainz +20 in that fight I would have won
@pale kettle rosa, rowan, nara, daimon, and uhh, brutus? Rosa with blade to follow rowan with call?
Ahkira and golus died
Switch rosa to position 4, mirael to position 5. And pray to rngesus 
@warm swan ffs Brutus
I beat themm tysmmm!!!
this was my wining formation for 14-40
Any help on this one?
help 13-6
Show box
Show box
box?
Your box with heroes.
Use Lyca instead of pippa.
Okay a pro is here who is definitely more knowledgeable about the game so I’ll take my leave
And switch her with Lyca.

I’ve been neglecting him since day 1
Walker be pro 24/7. 
daimon wont be able to frontline if that happens, i tried it and neither can the lyca, the estrilda will charge for raku
Yeah he’s amazing
Walker trash like complete shit like Gwynn shit
Need help on this one
So should I build him
Who?
Definitely
any idea for this stage?
Try out Nara against rowan I think that may help
I need like a 3 whole teams tho and I barely have two rip
That r3 is basically free tho
You could try-
Daimon.
Brutus. (get him on crystal)
Mirael.
Hogan.
Arden or ferael.
I will put brutus on crystal and try now ty
Check afk helper and try that first.
Brutus is very good because of his shield. You should definitely do it. 👍
true, i can only beat one of those first two stages, the Rosaline and mehira carry them
Swap him with desira if you dont have a free slot on crystal. @pale kettle
yes I swapped him now I am gonna test it
Ainz isn’t working :/ nor is daimon
it's a win thanks
Eyyyy. Nice!
Maybe if you mercd someone to cc the ezizh and put the Merlin opposite of the Nara
Could someone help me with this level?(16-40)
I think fera can do that
Nvm he died
Lyca.
Brutus.
Raku.
Rowan.
Daimon.
Try that. Idk if it will work tho.
You might need to try many times to.
Any ideas for this? (Satrana and fawkes don’t really have gear)
Can someone help me beat this(16-40)
Any reason this isn't working for me? Loads of other people on afkhelper use this exact comp
What's your gears on thoran?
Should be fine for cheese, right?
Thoran gets full spec bar but the spec just doesn't trigger or w/e
You mean he can't ult? He's being interrupted?
I have no idea why he doesn't ult tbh
Just to be sure, your auto-ult is on right
His bar is full. In replays of others he does ult like he should. And yes auto-ult is on..
Maybe set the game speed to normal, save the replay, and check closely?
i thought only t2 boots with no star and t1 weapon with no star 
idk if this is a correct file to dump here, but this is what keeps happening
does that vid have error ?
i can't see anything 
Your lorsan is dead without even linking enemies. Thoran is interrupted by totem guy
i think put lorsan at ezizh place may allow him to use link (cecilia appear after like 2-3s when the fight start iirc)
Can someone help me to pass the lvl 7.40?
So Lorsan needs better gear/artifact?
If you can’t beat it, then try to find help/formations on afk helper or merc an Ainz. 
More haste.
Aka armor yes. Artifact can help with haste to.
Nvm I need help on this one
Gave him that and changed Thoran's body. Still can't get him to ult. A friend of mine uses the exact same comp but everything lower leveled and he managed to do it. Very odd
With 5 star all?
I don't have 5* yet call but neither does he
Hmmm.
He does have T3 wep and boots for thoran as opposed to my T2 wep and boots
But iirc T2 wep and boots is the way to go for thoran cheese anyways
Ye.
T3 weapon and T2 weapon doesn’t have a huge difference, so you won’t feel the difference if you switch.
Wait, show replay again? @torpid lance
.
Idk if that works for you
Does that happen again and again?
Yes
Hmmm.
Thoran never ults, not even once
Wait, let me check.
I'm still low level but I'm stuck here
I found this clear. @torpid lance
Pippa.
Thoran.
Kelthur.
Ezizh.
Lorsan.
Ohhh nvm, it’s a different round.
It’s round 4 smh.
Oh well I can try round 4 ig
I just need thoran cheese to work somewhere in the rounds
I've tried other stuff for round 2 but it's a tough one
Swap daimon and Lyca positions.
Hi some help pls
Someone used mehira, gorvo, Izold, but I guess that you don’t have Izold built.
Arthur is better at tanking. Switch him with Thoran.
Thats so hard for me...
Get your free wukong copy and use him instead of belinda or ira.
Best team i could find. Other one was Pippa instead of nara and another one was lyca instead of oden
how? i have already epic wukong
Perfect
Ohhh, I didn’t know mb. You should use him then.
Swap him with Belinda.
i just epic ok i try
Wait, did you get a copy from the share thing?
how ?
You share a summon or union and you get a free wukong.
its just epic+
when you summon something click on share you don't have to actually share it
Ye lol.
Just click on it, then dip.
i have not share 😦
i have not button for share
Go to this. Can you see a wukong thingy?
if you summon a hero there should be a share button in the corner
summon it, tap on it then share
Just for epic no ?
Probably redeemed it without remembering.
T’es
once their card pops up you can tap on it and it will show the same animation as the new heroes do when you get them for the first time
daimon and lyca switch?
wait... it must be only elite heroes then. damn
Yes i think
Nothing with epic
ainz
---thoran
silas
---daimon
nara
Any suggestion to get rid of this annoying shield:dodge team? no I don’t have Brutus
What heros you got ?
What faction?
Send a picture of all
But maybe a team with oden
Can someone help me create 3 lineups for pvp
@proven river
Yea
Maybe
Prince
------rowan
Tessi
------Arthur
Daimon
👍
How can I kill three backline?
you use ainz until rng blesses u
yes
new to the game and wanted to ask what comp do i aim to in terms of roles? like 2 tanks/2dps/1sup etc?what is meta rn 
In this game it doesn’t matter what you go. Just go the heroes that work well together and stuff. It also depends on the stage. Example: Full ascended 5 star team with only lighbearer heroes. 2 tanks, 2 support and 1 dps and a team with 3 ascended heroes and 2 mythic. 4 dps and one support. That team could win over the full lb 5* team because it has heroes that go wheel with each other.
*It 70% depends on the stage if you push at high/medium deficit.
Wait, forget what I said. Just remember that there are no specific team is good. The team could be good at some stages, but bad at others and it depends on the stage and what heroes that are in. Some teams have core heroes (heroes that must be in the team for it to work), but that’s normally just 1-3 heroes.
@rocky moss too hard for poor lil me,i checked some guides but there is TOO many comps,is there any comp with burst dmg and not so hard to build as a newbie?🤔
You can go to questions and read the pins for beginner tips + ask for questions if you need help. 👍 daimon is a very good early chapter carry, but not very good at endgame. (Still good, but not as good)
Ok ty 

im stuck on 23-28 any suggestions?
Show stage and box please
Can anyone help me beat 16-40
hmmmmmmmmmm
maybe use your gwyneth instend of lyca if not i think just level up your charcters
Should i focus on lvling shemira further or lvl the 5 highest evenly to raise the lvl on everyone? Just started on campaign 12
Can someone help me make a team?
can you send your whole box aswell
Wait, your joker has furniture…at M+
confused screaming
I suggest reading beginners guide #classic-questions
is standard daimon set not succeeding?
daimon (call)
rowan (call)
fera (eye/shroud idk if you have shroud yet)
brutus (barricade)
flex (tasi/rose/raku)
Nope
I do not have shroud
Thanks!
It worked and sorry for triple ping
np at least u didnt DM me 
Mehira is disgusting either ezizh and tasi
@rigid imp did you beat this yet and if so what did you use
Sorry for ping I had too
past this yesterday with
nara (she got call + grez t3 boots
)
daimon
ferael (give him the weapon, he need to dodge eironn pull at least once, fear speed doesn't matter)
rowan
raku (his dmg is really high, almost equal to daimon)
and ofc tons of retries
nara with call can interrupt mehira bats
I mean I know that but uhh yeah… still die even if no bats
looking at afkhelper theres a lot of p4 eironn to interrupt the enemy eironns pull damage. you could try that?
To be frank I don’t have much ranger gear but I’ll do my best
eironn doesn't have to do damage, his job is to stop enemy eironn from pulling your bottom half
yeah, my raku have maxed t2 faction boots,weapon,armor
fearel have maxed t2 faction boots and maxed t1 weapon
brutus/rowan/fera/eironn/daimon would probably work since your deficit isn't huge
Closest I got with it
most of the time you will end up with either ezizh + tasi or ezizh+tasi+nemora 
tasi suck, she ruin it all
could try
fera (eye)
brutus (barricade)
eironn (enough haste to stop enemy eironn pull)
rowan (call or chalice)
daimon (call)
Also fera doesn’t really do much he just dies
you want fera to slow down nemora healing or else daimon will have problems getting first kill to snowball
well in my case he dodge eironn pull dmg (still got pulled), then he used fear once then either die or shoot 1 more arrow and die 
but he should give at least 4 spirit on the battlefield as long as he survive the initial pull (1 from initial attack and 3 from fear)
nicee pushed 12 stages today
how do i beat this? everyone except daimon dies too fast
is this doomed?
@velvet mountain can prolly use an arden there instead. Myb in position 3
@rigid imp
nice
ill try
I need 1 more daimon to ascend, should I stargaze him?
Absolutely not (and this goes for #classic-questions )
ahh I didn't notice that i was in lineup help. btw thanks!
hey everyone i am a bit stuck on chap 36 so can you give some lineups to use on 5 teams
thanks in advance
@quaint saddle https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=37&stage=16
thank you
thoran cheese/ainz comp/mehira+rowan+rose are the obvious ones
queen 5pull maybe although idk how well it will work without A eironn for cc-lock (you need to card/wishlist skriath 3 furn asap for this though)
5th comp would be nice to have a GB set but that normally requires alna. it might work with full GB for you because your deficit should be on the lower side
thoran cheese (you want M+20 pippa for this)
ainz comp (have all the pieces)
charmlock (have all the pieces)
5pull (need skriath 3F)
GB+alna (need alna, maybe it works without her? unsure)
do you have 5* call by the way? that helps thoran cheese a lot
thank you i will try to get them soon but i am waiting for volkin to do a viewer summon
thats why i am holding right now
didnt get it ??
5 star dura's call (artifact)
4* for now
What stage on 36?
tried afk helper, no luck. people using everything 240 and above
no luck getting rowan copies for M+30?
36-28
7 days for 30
I'll get 4th copy and 300 emblems in exactly a week
well raku is gonna get destroyed by athalia and pippa isn't going to do much. you could position lyca opposite athalia so she does her job (haste+energy).
so something like
raku (eye)
fera (
shroudgrace)
daimon (call)
brutus (barricade if you have it, otherwise it doesn't matter)
lyca (shroudgrace)
They probably haven't unlocked shroud
shroud? I dont think I have that one, and my ferael is a wimp he'll die in the first hit without dodging anything
You dont unlock barricade til 30 I belive
i have never seen him dodge as a matter of fact
Shroud is the shield artifact for rangers. You can try to use eye and take of his mythic weapon to stun faster
yep thats what he is on rn
yeah use a yellow weapon + maybe grace for the dodge (if you frontline him)
my hope was that lyca instantly dies to athalia, brutus tanks estrilda/athalia for a bit, while raku/daimon do damage
problem is fera doesn't really function that well before 221 and getting gear (like all agility heroes)
the idea for my lineup was raku dodging 200 times in a row so that daimon can kill pthers while pippa and ferael for rakus +30, but the problem is that hodgkin doesnt let anyone die
oh hendrik
yea hendrik
oyu gotta kill him first, or just brute force
i don't think pippa is very good in daimon sets because his CC is unreliable/rng and he isn't porting anyone useful. i'd prefer the lyca for instant haste/energy to hopefully get the snowball started sooner
pippa is actually doing a good job of tping estrilda over hendrik so that daimon and raku can focus on athalia, but thats all she does
You could put pippa in the bottom and hopefully she can teleport diamon in time.
daimon isn't getting any immunity from being ported though (no M+20), he's just being repositioned in the middle of the enemy
ah rip, I guess I just have to give up till sunday, i'll keep trying a few times tho really want to complete this chapter before mv ends
Have you checked afk helper at all?
yeah, they use heroes lot stronger than mine, and if they are around 220 crystal level (mine is 200) they use a lucretia -_-
he said M+30 rowan is a week away for him
yeah I'll get him next week, after this event ends
Brutus, Fereal, diamon, safiya, Lyca. Position 1-5
can his ferael even survive? he dont have shroud, i guess just equip him with random gear
should I give rakus gear to ferael? yeah I dont hav shroud
yeah, try slapping raku gear on him
Hopefully safiya pyramid can keep diamon alive long enough for him to ramp up
can his ferael even survive tho, maybe he can dodge some attack from atha/estrilda but that tasi will blow him up in 1 hit (she does that to my raku, 1 teleport and them boom raku dead
)
he can probbaly slap in another cc for saf like tasi or something
to (hopefully) banish that enemy tasi
my daimon is getting banished
thats normal, he sucks att -> he got highest att -> banish(highest att)
in the lineup i posted above, he doesnt get banished
yeah cause raku has highest att b4 daimon does the suck
put your ferael in the middle, with some luck (he dodge estrilda flag) he can use fear on enemy tasi to stop her banish
that requires his weapon taken out, so he does normal first
yeah, that's why i said with some luck because without weapon his dodge is much lower
my ferael never dodges tho idk why
you dint pray hard enough

his dodge is too low, 300 dodge vs 500 dodge is a huge difference
500 dodge make raku dodge like 100 time in a row (not magical attack ofc)
300 dodge make him die without dodging at all 
the odds is too low 
yeah, I'll just cwait for sunday lol been trying this stage for more than a day already
Any tips on who I should be working on don't wanna mess up again?
you have a pretty good start, Daimon to +20 and rowan +30 for now
should i make rowan mythic i dont use the witch no more
yea sure, there's no need for mirael now that you have a M daimon
cool thanks for the tips should i not bother with making any 1 else mythic for now keep the fodder for later on incase get more copys of other stuff? @umbral whale
@umbral whale guessing i should make daimon m+ when i can right?
Firstly stop building shem
yeah that was a misstake i watched a old video befor i joined discord
wait for now, get him to 180 > get others to 160 and then decide, you might have enough gb copies to ascend someone till then, if not then make daimon M+ and upgrade to 200. keep using scrolls on gb
yeah i got some saved for tomorrow 😄
Thank you.
Hi again, need help, i dont know what last 2 hero should i use
I currently using saurus, mirael, skiarth, but for the last 2 hero i always change it
Any suggestions?now im stuck in 9-20
Shemira can carry you pretty high up if you level her up. But I'm not an expert
I highly recommend you to read the pinned guides in #classic-questions
- Fix your wishlist
- dont upgrade the 4 skill heroes to L if you dont have atleast 4 copies
- Work towards a L+ mirael, hogan,arden,golus,silvina for now to upgrade the crystal level
For now you can use saurus, mirael, rosaline, thoran, numisu/daimon maybe. Once you fix the wishlist you'll pull some better supports like tasi, lyca etc. Good luck
Aah i see
Thank you so much for the help tho @vapid python @umbral whale
if you have any more questions, feel free to ask them
Okay 
Merced a lucretia and 5pulled
Any idea how yo beat this? Or do I have to wait to level up more? xD

here i will give you an option, give it a few retry
lyca
lucius
fawkes
tasi
belinda/shemira (depend on who you think have better dmg)
It went horribly wrong
nah, my time to wait has come.
I'll just advance on the candy crush thing XDDDD
Do you have rosa?
brutus
lyca
shemira
lucius
tasi/fawkes
try this and lmk how it worked
Rosaline? yeah
Terribly wrong several tries XDDDDDDD
I just have to level up I think rn
can you describe whats happening? You can definitely beat that stage with those heroes, just need more trial and error
Silvina and Athalia destroy my backline while the enemy frontline never dies
does silvina target shemira?
yup
You can try to bait the silvina using a weak mage like an oden or something, I think your shemira can do enough damage if that happens
replace the fawkes/tasi with an oden, belinda
Still dying.
The Tasi focuses Shemira so she's just there and not charging ultimate
I just wanna get to chapter 25 for that sweet T2 afk drop XDDDDDDDDDDDD
I don't have an answer to your question but I was wondering how you got all your heroes to show like that ? :o
it's a discord bot called afkit, you can find it on the afkhelper discord server
Oh nice thanks!
Just looking for a decent lineup. Can't find a decent one.
these are my current teams
That can work for now, though your team 3 can be full GB.
Silas
Grez
Oden
Daimon
Ferael\
and isn't team 2 bad? since 5p
Anyone got zaphrael leg+ ?
Kinda, if another 5-pull attack you their eironn will pull first
so full gb is better than daimon cc
Yes
For campaign I would use saurus as carry Brutus as tank or shemira
I like how I’m struggling on the second stage
why don't you eironn pull them 
eironn can pull at least 4 enemy here
You want eironn to pull warek and antandra with saf's static field on one of them? Goodluck 
nvm gottem
idk i just used raku mehira for that
@vapid python lyca, hendrik, brutus, shem/bel, rosa. Have rosa follow your mage carry
Any suggestions? I'm stuck not even close
arthur albedo ainz merlin eizo
daimon grezhul oden silas ferael
prince skriath safiya eironn lyca
Swap mireal and Rowan perhaps
This stage is pure pain
feel you
Still doesnt explain why cecilia goes on pippa
@winter marsh someone did it like this but like meh said u need Thorans si at +30
yeah i'm working towards that
i dont like thoran cheese but it's so easy you just cant ignore it
because when cecilia's dive target isn't valid, she makes weird decisions on who to target instead
Yeah, but in this case, there's a flora. And flora doesn't come down unless her allies are dead. Will you be able to dmg her, much less kill her without a 2nd retaliation?
it will not work, period, on this stage without thoran 30
no amount of retries solves that
Lmao try 36-48, same stage, but worse
Maybe someday
See if Oden can portal eironn
i could also interrupt with nara
Oden more useful
okay could you give me a comp though?
i can do the second team with raku mehira sadly it uses rowan though
Like Oden in position 5, and then people around him.
any way I win this? been stuck for a week
@south pilot how many hits can grez take from saveas?
Can you sub daimon with arden? Do you have a brutus?
Can you sub silvina with arden?
Hey, I said arden first. Find your own sub 
😆
ty
Any tips ?
Brutus, Thoran, Oden, Daimon, and Ferael. If needed, replace thoran with Lyca for haste
Try thoran, Rowan, lyca, fera, and daimon. Replace thoran with Brutus if you need more stalling. If your rowan has gear, he can be used Frontline
Yeah 
Anyone who can help?
Wys?
cecilia will target supports/mages kinda how a silvina does when her target is invalid like if its a flora
CC lucius with oden and play rowan middle back row, daimon and antandra are a must here and u prob want more tankage
Does your ainz get an ult off?
kaz is kind of a power check sometimes bc she just dodges and one shots, if u can get some kind of immunity/shield such as brutus or lucius that will help, also cecilia/nara/eironn should be used to snipe the nemora, try to build those heroes
oden is rly good here and if ainz can get his ults fast enough so nemora doesn't cancel out his damage then he can help a lot, the enemy has a lot of dangerous backlines so i reccomend tasi or oden + nara + lyca, and use ur tankiest heroes in the front
Try
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Antandra
Oden
Why did that lineup work so well XD
Does ainz ult before he dies?
Does Nara do her combo on shemira before she dies?
Do you have a Brutus?
Now I’m stuck here lmao
Same heroes
I used an elite Brutus on stage 22-18 and it worked. Elite can be helpful
Try
Ainz
Daimon
Arden
Brutus
Lyca/ Nara
I’m not sure on your stage so it may not work
Oden
Brutus
Rowan
Antandra
Daimon
Defeat
Does anyone die instantly?
Oden Rowan and Brutus
You can try to fit Ainz in there as long as he doesn’t die instantly and ults in time
Ok
I’m not exactly a pro at line ups by I try my best
Just keep swapping people around till it works,
Daimon
Antandra
Rowan
Brutus
Ainz
Now I need help 
can't kill kelthur
Would help if you posted yourbox so we could see what heroes you have
daimon, thoran, nara with dura's call, lyca/rowan, grezhul
@vapid python Okay good, SO, you can go ahead and garrison Ainz, but you don't need him to beat ch 25 lol.
who is the silvania jumping, is it shem or belinda
Shemira
And the Tasi also stuns her if she’s not being focused bu the silvanis
They all focus her and it’s my main damage
I have algo gotten this to Ascended:
If it helps XDDDDDD
Awesome, here's what I would do in your place, take out lucious for lyca, place shemira where your fawkes is, put belinda where shem is
You want them to focus shem
This guys indta-destroy everyone
take a ss of the after battle log
No no, I want shem to do damage, she’s the best i have
@vapid python Put your faith in belinda as a carry- until you actually get one
Belinda is a carry?
And me thinking she was shit LMAO
also, what is that after battle log thing and where can I find it xD
@vapid python she is, but so is shem, but once again, you're way over levelled for where you're at so it'll work
the bar thing in the bottom left
@vapid python swap belinda/shems position, you want shem to take athalia/silvanias opening damage
@vapid python need the end of battle report
Any help? Can manual raku after brutus unshields but mishka always dies/is too low then from spin so raku can finish killing people.
manual raku without 30sig does nothing, i would use brutus instead of lyca
just meant im not ulting until after brutus shield goes away
use brutus to tank enemy brutus, nara hook vurk so mishka have more invasive power, gorvo there is fine since he provide extra stun
@vapid python just for fun, try this formation, looks like athalias ult is what's wiping, can try this and then try swapping brutus/lyca to see what stalls her ult the longest, same for silvania, but I can't remember if shell go after fawkes or belinda after she jumps shem
@vapid python conversely, you can still just garrison ainz, +30 him, give him call and as much cc as possible so he can ult and do that as well
what would you use for relics I have up to blade
eye on raku, grace on gorvo
the rest is on you
didn’t work. Imma do tbe ainz thing ahahahahaha
its not working well should I reset raku into gwyn for this fight?
well i don't have much experience with these heroes tbh
Help plz
You didn’t post anything to help you with
I’m just wondering how hard ima regret my level 180, Diamond Shamira with a level 20 sig item? I’m half way through chapter 17
Can be a dimensional link at least
dimensional link?
When you get a dimensional hero (e.g. arthur, ainz, albedo, etc) you have to link them to another hero and it will copy that hero's ascension and stars.
You can, but it costs 200, or was it 300 diamonds
100

Yo, any buff lineups?
respect for ascending satrana, u can play lucius frontline and satrana the other side of frontline with daimon behind her, rowan in the middle back and rosaline following lucius or following satrana
Satrana and Rosaline are just so squishy still 😭
I can’t find a good formation and I’ve been stuck here for like 3 days
lyca instead of ferae
without +20 daimon you need higher level, i beat it with similar comps as you but with +20 daimon on my alts
It's better to place Oden on the other side so it teleports Grezhul and then hopefully Daimon can kill Isabella before she ults
rng mostly 
I made my own variation of it but it's not looking so good
Nvm this worked
Nice
Left with rng thoran fight now
Help
Guys does anyone got a zaphrael leg+
#mercenary is better to find ppl for these
CH17 is literal hell

Same
I only have a few pieces of mythic gear, I can't even imagine ascended gear and how hard that would be to level up
Having trouble with this last one here
Help a g out
Daimon 2 thoren 1 woman on the horse 3 oden 4 tasi 5
What about:
Oden
------Daimon
Arden
------Brutus
Lyca or Tessi
What team for tower ?
Not even with this I can finish this hell of a level
Lyca was always my dodge tank of choice against athalia
Nah I keep getting absolutely incredibly utterly destroyed xD
I will just wait and level up more and overpower them
Completely clueless on this one, need help
I usually throw some boots on Nara and have her pull mehira so that mehira doesn't get to summoner her 3 minions
Then I figure it out from there now that she does way less damage and isn't basically invincible
i tried this, the gorvo kills nara by jumping on her
That's fine, her only job is to pull mehira so she doesn't get the 3 symbols over her head
Once she does that her job is completed and I no longer care about her
Mehira doesn't need to be continuously crowd controlled, she just never summons them if she's grabbed at the start
Nara might not grab her fast enough to cancel it unless she has some haste which is why I put boots on her
Just saying ch 16 and no Rowan that’s kinda unlucky
you can do it tho, I am on 29-54 and still have an e+ rowan whom I cant use
12-34, anybody got any suggestions
Reset mirael lvls and put daimon 160.
use:
Daimon
Golus
Lyca
Thoran
Ferael
Been stuck for awhile
Anybody know how I can pass this level?
Please help
That flora stage is proving a huge pain
Any issue with this lineup? Getting stuck a lot
I did it with Lucretia 5pull
Still stuck
Have you tried both daimon and mirael at there highest levels? Also, brutus can be more useful at than thoran most of the time
Shucks used lyca in last comp to beat that
@hidden cobalt like this
Use someone else
In the 5pull?
Beat last comp@without lyca I’ll try that now
Tyvm! No doubt I’ll be back here soon enough haha
Congrats
No I’d rather of not seen 48
But 35-48 is even worse
Yeah I’m dealing with it my ainz team can beat the first one
Or my lucretia team can but I don’t think either can beat the 2nd one
U got Thoran +30 and duras call 5* ?
No 5* call
Guess I need to re evaluate some stuff
I wonder if I ss what I did for that stage
I didnt so it probably wasn't that bad tbh
With Lucretia 5pull 100%
daimon is E+ and in my resonating crystal, cant get him any higher atm
What happened to all your shimeras lol

They give you a lot for free for a reason
After early game
try swapping rowan and thoran, then using arden for the cc instead of either daimon or rosa
She’s top tier food for dimensionals
Swap your diamon with the maid
you can ascend niche heroes for dim links, rather than useless heroes
Some times you got to have a replacement for oden because he dumps all the enemies on your hero and your hero doesnt seem to be able to handle them
If you don’t hv a key it wouldn’t be ideal
wdym free i've only seen 1 for free
Shemiras only use is linking with dims
You get from that candy mania stuff
ye thats the one ive seen
then why waste precious GB food making a dim link rather than making a LB dim link?
Also a daily log in event
the bootcamp thing?
Bec LB hero’s aren’t easy to come by when you’re starting the game and need a hero for your garrisoned dimensional
Especially when you need aN M one
garrison isn't something to be recommended very early on
I did it and look at me now lol
and LB is a very easy faction to ascend a mediocre hero in for dim linking
what am I looking at
Some guy named salad I joined the server last prob
Bec when I joined server 910 came up
anyways
I garrisoned joker as my carry (not adviced) and I already mustered up 70 more of those currency
try mishka daimon oden silas arden
i'm hoping you've already saved enough for vinci
poor idea
He’s more of a support than a dps or sub dps and with diamon being my first dps and me not being able to get him to L+
I needed a dps quick

All I’m waiting for now is M raku (I don’t use him) M+ Rowan ascended joker M diamon and M desira

L mehira to
what does L mehira have to do with things
Probably want to put Silas behind diamon in some way assuming he’s doing the most dmg for your team currently
Her CC is magnificent and she can be used as E but forget I mentioned her
as you said, she works at E
mehira is one of the tankiest heroes in the game simply because she can always take at least 4 hits
her ascensions don't really help with that
Interesting 
how do i beat this?
tried hooking belinda, but grez’s shield makes it very hard to kill her and nara dies very fast too.. so i tried hooking ferael but always lost at the end with just belinda, soldier guy, and the bard
don't put daimon across grezhul
neuters his stats and he's getting hit by belinda to boot
I remember this stage lol
I depended on RNG
help D:

Coffin ⚰️ man
Rowan
Diamon
Brutus
Ainz
You can mess around with the positions of the hero’s behind if it doesn’t work at first
right, yeah he definantly is, anything else? like a possible addition or switch?
try rowan albedo ainz oden/pippa ferael
pippa in middle or 5th slot?
try replacing grez with a crowd control hero like pippa, he's not so great at E. everyone but daimon here is pretty flexible for the most part, with cc being the best thing you can add
Which enemy does oden teleport?
middle back, try both her and oden, or even both while dropping ferael or something. experiment.
yessir
Kaz
Silas
Diamon
Oden
Thoran
Pipa
Might work might not work depends on their gear some times
And artifacts
Hello. I'm new to the game but this is currently my lineup and daimon is in front line. Where is daimon supposed to be though?
Also I keep leveling daimon to get stronger as he's my carry. Who should I level next though?
tried a lot with diff ppl it wasnt relatively close or it didnt look like a rng battle for me to keep on trying more than 20times
Diamon shemira and lyca
Thanks 😊
Do u have fereal
yupp sig20 no furn
heres my box @high marlin
Drop Brutus put fereal in front of Ezizh
Or drop rowan and put fereal in front of Ezizh
You need merlin for albedo si30
getting quite close , might be a rng battle
Yeah you gotta use fereal on Ezizh stages. He can deny ults and such
anybody got some advice to beat this? I'd like to beat it today so I can use the faction scrolls. I also have 2 more crystal slots so recommend a hero and I'll check if I have it
Oden
Daimon
Silas
Brutus
Fereal
Tasi
Lyca
Eironn
Daimon
Fereal
First one Daimon can get to Arden faster with oden help. Second eironn pull Arden. Gl
what have you tried?
What’s the best lineup I could make with these guys for general content
I just did a solo Lucretia
Did this much dmg could hv been better if I got my mehiras ult up before battle
But I forgot to do so
Put lucretia in with 4 level 1 heroes if you haven't
So if I'm 253, and usually losing in ch25, usually run daimon with rowan/ Rosa support, change up alittle depending on enemy line but not working.. what's my best line up?
Or should I just keep trying and expect to lose 5 times or more per round?
Losing 5 times per fight is not a lot at all
Pls help me



