#lineup-help

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whole bramble
ebon hazel
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Try Rowan over brutus, and no clue what to put on merlin

whole bramble
ebon hazel
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Tasi

whole bramble
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Tasi's SI is 10, should I make it +15 for the haste bonus?

ebon hazel
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If you can

whole bramble
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yeah easily

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thing is with Rowan in front, Tasi dies in seconds

ebon hazel
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There shouldn't be anything killing her quickly

whole bramble
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think Numisi 1 shots her

pale kettle
rigid ether
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@ebon hazel can u help plz I’m stuck

ebon hazel
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Not really

rigid ether
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I don’t have any team that can beat that line up?

empty pulsar
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@rigid ether it's generally best to overlevel your carry. Instead of 120, go 140. Also, post your entire box for better help :)

rigid ether
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I heard it’s bad to go to legendary without having enough to get to legendary+ is that tru?

empty pulsar
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Correct

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Was just info to be used in general :)

rigid ether
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I don’t have enough to get daimon to legend+

empty pulsar
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It's usually best to work on making L+ out of non-A heroes first, since you'll have easier access to fodder and copies. If you haven't, check out the pinned guides here and in #classic-questions.

dense herald
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I need honest and good advice.
Daimon is mythic +
All legendaries i own are +
I switch lyca with ferael sometimes

Whay my team is lacking? What should i do next?

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This is my daimon.

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This is my collection of this faction
( i been playing for 4 days now. Vip 10)

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Wise one where are you i need guidance 🥺🙏

patent heron
stiff sandal
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Hook the mirael she is annoying

warm swan
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@dense herald not really much to do for now. Maybe brutus instead of thoran. The occasional arden for cc.
And that eironn is not l+ tho morrowcry
But yeah, looking good for 4days of playing

dense herald
dense herald
warm swan
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I wanted to say rowan. homegalul
But out of those, def not brutus. And not thoran. So either fera, lyca, grez. I'd go with fera.

dense herald
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Or continue on GB

warm swan
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Still gb. You can hcp rowan later on

dense fog
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Opinion time, should I farm more Niru and bump to leg+ to boost up Shemira for carry, or do Nara/Fer instead? 10ish days in, on chapter 13-22.

maiden marsh
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You'll also want to check out the guides pinned in #classic-questions for some tips like how to overlevel your carry, not spread fodder thinly, etc

dense fog
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not QUITE useless, just cause those are the only leg+ chars I have so far :D, but I considered the daimon boost, but still need more of him

maiden marsh
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3 copies left for daimon, not too bad assuming you get someone good ascended from another faction and unlock HCP to finish him off, and that's assuming you are horribly unlucky and don't get any more copies of him from scrolls/cards

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Shemira is the 'safe' option but she'd literally just be an ascended benchwarmer with how she pales in comparison to even mediocre carries

dense fog
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That's fair, so even losing the leg+ max level benefits, I should go ahead and eat her for Daimon?

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I played quite a bit year+ ago, and just now picking back up so in the back of my head Shemira is still a beast, even tho so far I know she isn't

maiden marsh
fiery wing
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need help here thanks

heavy parrot
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Hey all. Been playing for a while on and off but looking to optimize my afk experience recently. Here’s my current lineup. Haven’t really consulted any guides or anything for the most part while so if it looks weird that’s why lol. Any tips or advice at all is welcome. I’m on 28-26.

outer patio
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Yo, shemira is 3furn, Rowan is +30. What could be better here?

pale kettle
pale kettle
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Joke btw

fiery wing
rigid imp
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iirc i used something like
thoran

daimon
ferael
rowan
grez
but that could be wrong, i use grez a lot from these stage even tho he's not 9f yet kHAHAsos

pale kettle
rigid imp
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yeah, my experience is place daimon as close to ezizh as possible, otherwise the fight just fukt up when ezizh mind control daimon kHAHAsos

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it least we have win chance when daimon isn't controlled

pale kettle
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@rigid imp what did you use for 30-28

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Aka the stage I’m on

rigid imp
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ideally i would use this
daimon

rowan
ferael
brutus
thoran
but i might use merc hero there (luc 5-pull) too because my memery is bad, i should post those stage on afkhelper stressedfera

pale kettle
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Too hard for rn

rigid imp
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if i have estrilda then those 3 slot in front of enemy eironn could have another strategy, sadly i'm not

pale kettle
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Can someone help me build a good team and their formation? I know that I didn't follow the level up the fodders first from the guide. I just want to enjoy the game. Thanks.

warm swan
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@pale kettle you say you want to build a good team but you don't want to follow the guide because you want to enjoy the game. Some conflicting information there morrowcry

pale kettle
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Well my point is I didn't follow the level up the fodders first 'cause like I said I just want to enjoy the game. Well I can also just Rickety Cart the A tier heroes to level up the fodders in the future. Like I said I just want to enjoy the game 'cause this is my first time playing this game so that's why I am asking for help about good team composition or lineup.

fiery wing
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help here thanks

rigid imp
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another ezizh stage kHAHAsos
but what did i used here ?

leaden glacier
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help here thanks
@fiery wing
ainz
brutus
rowan
thoran
daimon

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or change brutus to lyca

pale kettle
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@rigid imp got it with ainz

rigid imp
sick oasis
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getting hammered need help

leaden glacier
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@rigid imp got it with ainz
@pale kettle those units were my bread and butter from ch13 to 31 idk how ut works so welltalenerise

leaden glacier
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i mean thats my most used lineup but its weak againts ferael

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daimon ainz roan brutus lyca

pale kettle
warm maple
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Any help they have triple the power then me everyone does instantly and Nemora just heals them constantly

leaden glacier
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Lol that didn’t work for me for this though
@pale kettle

lyca
brutus
daimon
rowan
ainz

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getting hammered need help
@sick oasis make daimon 180 before leveling up your 147 units

sick oasis
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oh thats gunna be a while i got 0 exp 😦

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only just got the essence to get hit 161

leaden glacier
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oh thats gunna be a while i got 0 exp 😦
@sick oasis try
ferael
thoran
rowan
daimon
silas

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or change thoran to brutus

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Any help they have triple the power then me everyone does instantly and Nemora just heals them constantly
@warm maple try

ferael
rosa
silas
lucius
daimon

warm maple
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Who should Rosa be with @leaden glacier

leaden glacier
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daimon

warm maple
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@leaden glacier Nope she dies by kaz

sick oasis
warm swan
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@sick oasis oh you got it. Nvm then. Gz

sick oasis
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i got it to work i dont no how but rng was on my side i guess

warm swan
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That's the complain strat at work

sick oasis
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hehe now time to get stuck in chapter 15 dw ill be back 😄

drowsy gazelle
sleek delta
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This works perfectly well for me @night musk

Gorvo (can be E+ with barricade)

Luc E60
Eironn
Skriath
Lyca

night musk
sleek delta
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Sure thing

drowsy gazelle
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sometimes i slotted tidus in just for the initial cc

sleek delta
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I use gorvo on that one, since brutus is used on another comp

drowsy gazelle
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fair

leaden glacier
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i always use skreg as a sub for brutus in luc cheese gorvo is interrsting

sleek delta
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Gorvo will leap after eironn pull, good CC for luc

drowsy gazelle
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i uses skreg inside kren so i cant sub much, plus i dont even have lucretia so my chocie is a limited xp

leaden glacier
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i havent seen kren used in campaign

drowsy gazelle
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well, if you have a very built roster, kren is not used much

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i dont really follow the meta anymore, so i just build whatever i like and use em

night musk
night musk
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Thank you. Hopefully I won’t see too many Flora stage after this. Freaking nightmare 🥲

sleek delta
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Next will be 44 and 48 for multis, there is flora stage on single stage but you can just ainz it

drowsy gazelle
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2 multis with double flora team and 1 single stage flora

umbral whale
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stuck, need help

velvet mountain
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how do i beat this?

tight quiver
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Can you guys just give me 1 squad?

junior laurel
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Welp, I have a level 180 Ascended Level Shemira... How hard am I gonna regret this?

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She also has a +20 sig item

pale kettle
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Overleveled, stuck, and confused. If you give me a solution to this stage, let me know why so I can learn from you and hopefully ask less questions in the future.

worldly apex
proven river
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How do i beat this motherfuckers

static turtle
static turtle
proven river
static turtle
# proven river ?

You did more dmg to them overall so they’re probably still alive due to nemora

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So get a healer and the most durable team wins

proven river
proven river
static turtle
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Use joker and Fereal

static turtle
proven river
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Didnt got joker and tried fereal but didnt work

proven magnet
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The skruggle. Any suggestions? I’ve tried so many ways

static turtle
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Or use that teleporting guy to mess up their formation @proven river

static turtle
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Try loaning a hero you don’t hv

proven river
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Already used that

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But i get a accended arthur in 2 days with 3 furniture and 20 SI, is that helping

proven river
proven magnet
pale kettle
pale kettle
sleek delta
static turtle
static turtle
barren badge
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My lucerita pull is super weak and rarely wins in pvp, I need help with my pvp comps...

static turtle
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Imo

drowsy gazelle
pale kettle
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Oh yeah?? Why should Thoran only have weapon and boots, I have never heard of that before. Perhaps to get his ultimate off quicker?

drowsy gazelle
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if deficits is high enough, those dont really matters but you gotta make do with evreything since u dont have enuf dmg

pale kettle
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Gotcha. Thoran is dying before he gets his ultimate off, but I've only given it 5 or 6 retires. I'll spam it for a little bit here and come back with an update.

drowsy gazelle
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make sure only he gets call, other hero gets nothing

pale kettle
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Alright, only he has Call, I took off everything on the others, in just a few retries I've killed 4 with thoran. This is the first time I've semi gotten thoran cheese to work, I'll give it a considerable amount of retries.

drowsy gazelle
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who is left? is it rosa? if it is rosa then its just rng

umbral whale
pale kettle
drowsy gazelle
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U might need to link him with lorsan then, easier to kill that way

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Wait u did alrd

pale kettle
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How exactly do I do that, line Lorsan up across fron him?

drowsy gazelle
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Yea

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Just put lorsan to his face, then thoran at rowan's place. Rowan then at the back

pale kettle
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Gotcha

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Alright with that, Athalia is able to survive with a little bit of HP. I'll keep retrying here, seems to be the best formation.

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I've never used Thoran cheese, so this is all new to me.

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Also foreign to Lorsan mechanics, not quite sure how he even works with his link.

drowsy gazelle
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Try searching thoran cheese by pippi in google, he has a very detailed guide for cheese

pale kettle
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Will do, thanks man.

proven river
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So thorn does that extra more damage maybe

pale kettle
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May I have assistance

static turtle
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Also need assistance

chrome flare
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Can someone pls help me, thanks!

chrome flare
pale kettle
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help plz?

pale kettle
pale kettle
chrome flare
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Try switching nara and the support graveborn with weird green liquid and needles

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Cause ira isn’t a big threat IMO

pale kettle
pale kettle
pale kettle
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now I really need help anyone

proven river
pale kettle
pale kettle
proven river
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Maybe daimon thoran switch ?

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Anyone got a idea how to beat this fricking stage

drowsy gazelle
upper path
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Are there better 120 cap carries than Mirael?

sick oasis
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Idk man I'm fairy new but I used her upto chapter 13

drowsy gazelle
# proven river

anoki initial shield can block thoran's taint, im not sure if it can block banish, but worth a try atleast if u wanna

sick oasis
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Any tips on who I should be working on coz I'm not overly sure

upper path
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Shouldn't have made L+ farael or shemira when you had daimon..

sick oasis
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I didn't have daimon then I got 4 copy's in last 2 days

drowsy gazelle
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rough, not even a copy?

warm swan
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Ty mod

proven river
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Wait got 1

proven river
drowsy gazelle
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U just replace daimon with anoki anf see if lucretia get banished

proven river
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Anoki absorbs banish

drowsy gazelle
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Cause, u just need lucretia to deal dmg as ur other hero die

proven magnet
proven river
drowsy gazelle
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In what way?

proven river
proven river
drowsy gazelle
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try moving lucretia around, his jump is towards the most congested area

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and since hes physical, meaning you can technically dodge it

proven river
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Also when i get it luc got to less dps to finish turtle and tree

drowsy gazelle
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throw in lorsan

proven river
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Turtle still survives

drowsy gazelle
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rng maybe?

proven river
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Hmm

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Also cant 5 pull anymore
Got
Larson
--------lyca
Eironn
--------anoki
Luc

drowsy gazelle
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take out lyca

proven river
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Without her eironn doesnt pull

scarlet adder
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Which Ainz line up is best for pvp? I see many various, but not sure personally

drowsy gazelle
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he shouldnt have problem pulling, put call on him

proven river
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Ok

drowsy gazelle
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did u remove his gear? just put it back on if so

proven river
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Luc dies to fast i get the pull

drowsy gazelle
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put her backline? try to experiment yourself and see, cause i dont have access to the real-time i cant exactly know what advice is best

proven river
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Problem is always when she wanna go to the croud the turtle body slams in her way

drowsy gazelle
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i dont think you have barricade yet right?

static turtle
proven river
drowsy gazelle
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gz

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whats the catch? just rng?

proven river
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Kinda

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I send you a replay later

proven magnet
proven river
proven river
stiff sandal
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What are the best line ups for pvp?

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These are mine

frosty imp
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How can i progress i leveled all of them and still cant beat them idk what to do

gusty wolf
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Help please

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13-4

proven river
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Turtle again 1 HP Fuck this Game such trash

pale kettle
warm swan
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@frosty imp try switching lucius into position 3, thoran in position 2, then tasi in position 1. And make rosa follow mirael instead. Can also opt for removing tasi and putting lyca instead

pale kettle
# gusty wolf

Also random suggestion maybe try to put daimon in resonating crystal he is really good

proven river
pale kettle
proven river
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Hodkins for grezuhl then ?

pale kettle
proven river
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Idk

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Then use daimon goddamn

frosty imp
pale kettle
warm swan
frosty imp
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Oh ok thx

proven river
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Which one get oden ported ?

pale kettle
gusty wolf
frosty imp
warm swan
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Did mirael ult? How many times? Who did tasi banish?

pale kettle
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@proven river sorry for the bad handwriting

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Basically my battles

warm swan
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Merc a fat nara to interrupt mehira's bats

pale kettle
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I still fail either way

warm swan
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Hence the "fat" part morrowcry
Does she interrupt mehira's bats at least?

pale kettle
frosty imp
pale kettle
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Yes @warm swan

warm swan
pale kettle
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@warm swan istg if I had Ainz +20 in that fight I would have won

warm swan
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@pale kettle rosa, rowan, nara, daimon, and uhh, brutus? Rosa with blade to follow rowan with call?

warm swan
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Switch rosa to position 4, mirael to position 5. And pray to rngesus morrowcry

pale kettle
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@warm swan ffs Brutus

pale kettle
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Thanks taint

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164 attempt to clear it nice

pale kettle
umbral whale
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Any help on this one?

gusty wolf
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help 13-6

pale kettle
gusty wolf
pale kettle
gusty wolf
umbral whale
gusty wolf
rocky moss
rocky moss
pale kettle
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Okay a pro is here who is definitely more knowledgeable about the game so I’ll take my leave

rocky moss
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And switch her with Lyca.

pale kettle
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@pale kettle no he’s great w/ 9f

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HE IS?!?!!!!!!!!!?!

pale kettle
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I’ve been neglecting him since day 1

rocky moss
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Walker be pro 24/7. smug_dolly

umbral whale
wet dagger
pale kettle
wet dagger
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Need help on this one

pale kettle
rocky moss
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Who?

wet dagger
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Definitely

pale kettle
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any idea for this stage?

pale kettle
wet dagger
warm swan
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That r3 is basically free tho

rocky moss
pale kettle
rocky moss
rocky moss
wet dagger
rocky moss
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Swap him with desira if you dont have a free slot on crystal. @pale kettle

pale kettle
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Ainz isn’t working :/ nor is daimon

rocky moss
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Eyyyy. Nice!

wet dagger
whole smelt
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Could someone help me with this level?(16-40)

pale kettle
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Nvm he died

rocky moss
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You might need to try many times to.

pale kettle
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Isabella.

wet dagger
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Any ideas for this? (Satrana and fawkes don’t really have gear)

whole smelt
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Can someone help me beat this(16-40)

torpid lance
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Any reason this isn't working for me? Loads of other people on afkhelper use this exact comp

warm swan
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What's your gears on thoran?

torpid lance
torpid lance
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Thoran gets full spec bar but the spec just doesn't trigger or w/e

warm swan
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You mean he can't ult? He's being interrupted?

torpid lance
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I have no idea why he doesn't ult tbh

warm swan
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Just to be sure, your auto-ult is on right

torpid lance
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His bar is full. In replays of others he does ult like he should. And yes auto-ult is on..

warm swan
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Maybe set the game speed to normal, save the replay, and check closely?

rigid imp
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i thought only t2 boots with no star and t1 weapon with no star rakuhmm

torpid lance
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idk if this is a correct file to dump here, but this is what keeps happening

rigid imp
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does that vid have error ?
i can't see anything kHAHAsos

warm swan
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Your lorsan is dead without even linking enemies. Thoran is interrupted by totem guy

rigid imp
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i think put lorsan at ezizh place may allow him to use link (cecilia appear after like 2-3s when the fight start iirc)

summer sparrow
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Can someone help me to pass the lvl 7.40?

torpid lance
midnight bronze
rocky moss
# pale kettle

If you can’t beat it, then try to find help/formations on afk helper or merc an Ainz. ainzpraise

rocky moss
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Not purple+

rocky moss
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Aka armor yes. Artifact can help with haste to.

midnight bronze
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Nvm I need help on this one

torpid lance
# rocky moss More haste.

Gave him that and changed Thoran's body. Still can't get him to ult. A friend of mine uses the exact same comp but everything lower leveled and he managed to do it. Very odd

torpid lance
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I don't have 5* yet call but neither does he

rocky moss
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Hmmm.

torpid lance
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He does have T3 wep and boots for thoran as opposed to my T2 wep and boots

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But iirc T2 wep and boots is the way to go for thoran cheese anyways

rocky moss
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Ye.

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T3 weapon and T2 weapon doesn’t have a huge difference, so you won’t feel the difference if you switch.

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Wait, show replay again? @torpid lance

torpid lance
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Idk if that works for you

rocky moss
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Does that happen again and again?

torpid lance
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Yes

rocky moss
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Hmmm.

torpid lance
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Thoran never ults, not even once

rocky moss
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Wait, let me check.

vernal latch
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I'm still low level but I'm stuck here

rocky moss
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I found this clear. @torpid lance
Pippa.

Thoran.
Kelthur.
Ezizh.
Lorsan.

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Ohhh nvm, it’s a different round.

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It’s round 4 smh.

torpid lance
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Oh well I can try round 4 ig

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I just need thoran cheese to work somewhere in the rounds

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I've tried other stuff for round 2 but it's a tough one

rocky moss
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Swap daimon and Lyca positions.

pale kettle
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Hi some help pls

rocky moss
rocky moss
slim warren
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Thats so hard for me...

rocky moss
slim warren
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Best team i could find. Other one was Pippa instead of nara and another one was lyca instead of oden

vernal latch
vernal latch
rocky moss
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Swap him with Belinda.

vernal latch
rocky moss
vernal latch
rocky moss
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You share a summon or union and you get a free wukong.

vernal latch
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its just epic+

karmic shore
rocky moss
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Ye lol. hoganLUL Just click on it, then dip.

vernal latch
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i have not share 😦

rocky moss
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You can get him to legendary if you get his free copy smh.

vernal latch
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i have not button for share

rocky moss
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Go to this. Can you see a wukong thingy?

vernal latch
karmic shore
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summon it, tap on it then share

vernal latch
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Just for epic no ?

rocky moss
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Probably redeemed it without remembering.

vernal latch
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T’es

karmic shore
# vernal latch Just for epic no ?

once their card pops up you can tap on it and it will show the same animation as the new heroes do when you get them for the first time

vernal latch
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Yes i need just one for legendary

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Where is it ?

karmic shore
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you tap on the hero

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the card

vernal latch
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Nothing

karmic shore
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daimon and lyca switch?

karmic shore
vernal latch
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Nothing with epic

karmic shore
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ainz
---thoran
silas
---daimon
nara

vagrant tree
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Any suggestion to get rid of this annoying shield:dodge team? no I don’t have Brutus

vagrant tree
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What faction?

proven river
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Send a picture of all

proven river
sweet vortex
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Can someone help me create 3 lineups for pvp

vagrant tree
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@proven river

proven river
vagrant tree
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…..

proven river
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Maybe

Prince
------rowan
Tessi
------Arthur
Daimon

vagrant tree
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That works

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I forgot the artifacts I have allow Tassi to spam sleep

proven river
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👍

mortal mural
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How can I kill three backline?

karmic shore
lean lantern
inner escarp
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new to the game and wanted to ask what comp do i aim to in terms of roles? like 2 tanks/2dps/1sup etc?what is meta rn isabellarage

rocky moss
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*It 70% depends on the stage if you push at high/medium deficit.

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Wait, forget what I said. Just remember that there are no specific team is good. The team could be good at some stages, but bad at others and it depends on the stage and what heroes that are in. Some teams have core heroes (heroes that must be in the team for it to work), but that’s normally just 1-3 heroes.

inner escarp
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@rocky moss too hard for poor lil me,i checked some guides but there is TOO many comps,is there any comp with burst dmg and not so hard to build as a newbie?🤔

pale kettle
rocky moss
inner escarp
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Ok ty warekheart

rocky moss
cloud forge
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im stuck on 23-28 any suggestions?

pale kettle
cloud forge
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its sending still

whole smelt
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Can anyone help me beat 16-40

patent heron
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hmmmmmmmmmm

patent heron
junior sleet
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Should i focus on lvling shemira further or lvl the 5 highest evenly to raise the lvl on everyone? Just started on campaign 12

cobalt field
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Can someone help me make a team?

rigid ether
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Stuck on 10-40

silk burrow
stiff sandal
pale kettle
pale kettle
pale kettle
# pale kettle

is standard daimon set not succeeding?
daimon (call)

rowan (call)
fera (eye/shroud idk if you have shroud yet)
brutus (barricade)
flex (tasi/rose/raku)

cloud forge
pale kettle
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It worked and sorry for triple ping

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np at least u didnt DM me kHAHAsos

faint current
pale kettle
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Mehira is disgusting either ezizh and tasi

pale kettle
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@rigid imp did you beat this yet and if so what did you use

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Sorry for ping I had too

rigid imp
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past this yesterday with
nara (she got call + grez t3 boots kHAHAsos )

daimon
ferael (give him the weapon, he need to dodge eironn pull at least once, fear speed doesn't matter)
rowan
raku (his dmg is really high, almost equal to daimon)
and ofc tons of retries kHAHAsos

pale kettle
pale kettle
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looking at afkhelper theres a lot of p4 eironn to interrupt the enemy eironns pull damage. you could try that?

pale kettle
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eironn doesn't have to do damage, his job is to stop enemy eironn from pulling your bottom half

rigid imp
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yeah, my raku have maxed t2 faction boots,weapon,armor
fearel have maxed t2 faction boots and maxed t1 weapon

pale kettle
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brutus/rowan/fera/eironn/daimon would probably work since your deficit isn't huge

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Closest I got with it

rigid imp
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most of the time you will end up with either ezizh + tasi or ezizh+tasi+nemora kHAHAsos
tasi suck, she ruin it all

pale kettle
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could try
fera (eye)

brutus (barricade)
eironn (enough haste to stop enemy eironn pull)
rowan (call or chalice)
daimon (call)

pale kettle
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you want fera to slow down nemora healing or else daimon will have problems getting first kill to snowball

rigid imp
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well in my case he dodge eironn pull dmg (still got pulled), then he used fear once then either die or shoot 1 more arrow and die kHAHAsos

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but he should give at least 4 spirit on the battlefield as long as he survive the initial pull (1 from initial attack and 3 from fear)

fiery wing
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nicee pushed 12 stages today

velvet mountain
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how do i beat this? everyone except daimon dies too fast

pale kettle
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is this doomed?

warm swan
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@velvet mountain can prolly use an arden there instead. Myb in position 3

pale kettle
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@rigid imp

rigid imp
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nice

velvet mountain
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ill try

marsh ember
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I need 1 more daimon to ascend, should I stargaze him?

tight juniper
marsh ember
quaint saddle
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hey everyone i am a bit stuck on chap 36 so can you give some lineups to use on 5 teams

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thanks in advance

warm swan
quaint saddle
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thank you

pale kettle
# quaint saddle

thoran cheese/ainz comp/mehira+rowan+rose are the obvious ones
queen 5pull maybe although idk how well it will work without A eironn for cc-lock (you need to card/wishlist skriath 3 furn asap for this though)
5th comp would be nice to have a GB set but that normally requires alna. it might work with full GB for you because your deficit should be on the lower side

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thoran cheese (you want M+20 pippa for this)
ainz comp (have all the pieces)
charmlock (have all the pieces)
5pull (need skriath 3F)
GB+alna (need alna, maybe it works without her? unsure)

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do you have 5* call by the way? that helps thoran cheese a lot

quaint saddle
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thank you i will try to get them soon but i am waiting for volkin to do a viewer summon
thats why i am holding right now

quaint saddle
pale kettle
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5 star dura's call (artifact)

quaint saddle
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4* for now

high marlin
umbral whale
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tried afk helper, no luck. people using everything 240 and above

pale kettle
quaint saddle
umbral whale
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I'll get 4th copy and 300 emblems in exactly a week

pale kettle
tight juniper
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They probably haven't unlocked shroud

umbral whale
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shroud? I dont think I have that one, and my ferael is a wimp he'll die in the first hit without dodging anything

high marlin
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You dont unlock barricade til 30 I belive

umbral whale
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i have never seen him dodge as a matter of fact

tight juniper
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Shroud is the shield artifact for rangers. You can try to use eye and take of his mythic weapon to stun faster

pale kettle
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yeah use a yellow weapon + maybe grace for the dodge (if you frontline him)

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my hope was that lyca instantly dies to athalia, brutus tanks estrilda/athalia for a bit, while raku/daimon do damage
problem is fera doesn't really function that well before 221 and getting gear (like all agility heroes)

umbral whale
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the idea for my lineup was raku dodging 200 times in a row so that daimon can kill pthers while pippa and ferael for rakus +30, but the problem is that hodgkin doesnt let anyone die

pale kettle
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oh hendrik

umbral whale
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yea hendrik

drowsy gazelle
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oyu gotta kill him first, or just brute force

pale kettle
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i don't think pippa is very good in daimon sets because his CC is unreliable/rng and he isn't porting anyone useful. i'd prefer the lyca for instant haste/energy to hopefully get the snowball started sooner

umbral whale
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pippa is actually doing a good job of tping estrilda over hendrik so that daimon and raku can focus on athalia, but thats all she does

high marlin
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You could put pippa in the bottom and hopefully she can teleport diamon in time.

pale kettle
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daimon isn't getting any immunity from being ported though (no M+20), he's just being repositioned in the middle of the enemy

umbral whale
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ah rip, I guess I just have to give up till sunday, i'll keep trying a few times tho really want to complete this chapter before mv ends

high marlin
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Have you checked afk helper at all?

umbral whale
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yeah, they use heroes lot stronger than mine, and if they are around 220 crystal level (mine is 200) they use a lucretia -_-

high marlin
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I'll take a look real quick

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Do you not have a rowan?

pale kettle
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he said M+30 rowan is a week away for him

umbral whale
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yeah I'll get him next week, after this event ends

high marlin
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Brutus, Fereal, diamon, safiya, Lyca. Position 1-5

drowsy gazelle
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can his ferael even survive? he dont have shroud, i guess just equip him with random gear

umbral whale
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should I give rakus gear to ferael? yeah I dont hav shroud

drowsy gazelle
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yeah, try slapping raku gear on him

high marlin
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Hopefully safiya pyramid can keep diamon alive long enough for him to ramp up

rigid imp
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can his ferael even survive tho, maybe he can dodge some attack from atha/estrilda but that tasi will blow him up in 1 hit (she does that to my raku, 1 teleport and them boom raku dead kHAHAsos )

drowsy gazelle
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he can probbaly slap in another cc for saf like tasi or something

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to (hopefully) banish that enemy tasi

umbral whale
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my daimon is getting banished

drowsy gazelle
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thats normal, he sucks att -> he got highest att -> banish(highest att)

umbral whale
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in the lineup i posted above, he doesnt get banished

drowsy gazelle
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yeah cause raku has highest att b4 daimon does the suck

rigid imp
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put your ferael in the middle, with some luck (he dodge estrilda flag) he can use fear on enemy tasi to stop her banish

drowsy gazelle
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that requires his weapon taken out, so he does normal first

rigid imp
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yeah, that's why i said with some luck because without weapon his dodge is much lower

umbral whale
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my ferael never dodges tho idk why

drowsy gazelle
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you dint pray hard enough

umbral whale
rigid imp
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his dodge is too low, 300 dodge vs 500 dodge is a huge difference
500 dodge make raku dodge like 100 time in a row (not magical attack ofc)
300 dodge make him die without dodging at all kHAHAsos

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the odds is too low kHAHAsos

umbral whale
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yeah, I'll just cwait for sunday lol been trying this stage for more than a day already

pale kettle
sick oasis
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Any tips on who I should be working on don't wanna mess up again?

umbral whale
sick oasis
umbral whale
sick oasis
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cool thanks for the tips should i not bother with making any 1 else mythic for now keep the fodder for later on incase get more copys of other stuff? @umbral whale

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@umbral whale guessing i should make daimon m+ when i can right?

elfin trench
#

Firstly stop building shem

sick oasis
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yeah that was a misstake i watched a old video befor i joined discord

umbral whale
sick oasis
#

yeah i got some saved for tomorrow 😄

ashen schooner
#

Thank you.

wispy dagger
#

Hi again, need help, i dont know what last 2 hero should i use
I currently using saurus, mirael, skiarth, but for the last 2 hero i always change it
Any suggestions?now im stuck in 9-20

vapid python
#

Shemira can carry you pretty high up if you level her up. But I'm not an expert

umbral whale
# wispy dagger Hi again, need help, i dont know what last 2 hero should i use I currently using...

I highly recommend you to read the pinned guides in #classic-questions

  1. Fix your wishlist
  2. dont upgrade the 4 skill heroes to L if you dont have atleast 4 copies
  3. Work towards a L+ mirael, hogan,arden,golus,silvina for now to upgrade the crystal level

For now you can use saurus, mirael, rosaline, thoran, numisu/daimon maybe. Once you fix the wishlist you'll pull some better supports like tasi, lyca etc. Good luck

wispy dagger
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Aah i see
Thank you so much for the help tho @vapid python @umbral whale

umbral whale
elder gale
vapid python
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Any idea how yo beat this? Or do I have to wait to level up more? xD

rigid imp
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here i will give you an option, give it a few retry
lyca

lucius
fawkes
tasi
belinda/shemira (depend on who you think have better dmg)

vapid python
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nah, my time to wait has come.

I'll just advance on the candy crush thing XDDDD

warm swan
#

Do you have rosa?

umbral whale
vapid python
vapid python
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I just have to level up I think rn

umbral whale
#

can you describe whats happening? You can definitely beat that stage with those heroes, just need more trial and error

vapid python
umbral whale
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does silvina target shemira?

vapid python
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yup

umbral whale
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You can try to bait the silvina using a weak mage like an oden or something, I think your shemira can do enough damage if that happens

replace the fawkes/tasi with an oden, belinda

vapid python
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Still dying.

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The Tasi focuses Shemira so she's just there and not charging ultimate

#

I just wanna get to chapter 25 for that sweet T2 afk drop XDDDDDDDDDDDD

fleet thistle
#

best defense teams for challenger tournament?

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im plat 2, never really pushed

pine musk
fleet thistle
pine musk
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Oh nice thanks!

hoary haven
#

Just looking for a decent lineup. Can't find a decent one.

fleet thistle
sleek delta
fleet thistle
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and isn't team 2 bad? since 5p

proven river
#

Anyone got zaphrael leg+ ?

sleek delta
fleet thistle
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so full gb is better than daimon cc

sleek delta
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Yes

warped kayak
pale kettle
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I like how I’m struggling on the second stage

rigid imp
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why don't you eironn pull them kHAHAsos
eironn can pull at least 4 enemy here

warm swan
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You want eironn to pull warek and antandra with saf's static field on one of them? Goodluck morrowcry

pale kettle
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nvm gottem

pale kettle
warm swan
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@vapid python lyca, hendrik, brutus, shem/bel, rosa. Have rosa follow your mage carry

sick oasis
#

Any suggestions? I'm stuck not even close

night relic
maiden marsh
pale kettle
pale kettle
winter marsh
#

Why does enemy Cecilia jumps on pippa and not on lyca ?

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I just dont understand

dull flame
#

Huh

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You know you can't cheese this stage, thoran isn't +30

royal stag
winter marsh
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feel you

cobalt field
royal stag
winter marsh
royal stag
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@winter marsh someone did it like this but like meh said u need Thorans si at +30

winter marsh
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yeah i'm working towards that

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i dont like thoran cheese but it's so easy you just cant ignore it

maiden marsh
warm swan
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Yeah, but in this case, there's a flora. And flora doesn't come down unless her allies are dead. Will you be able to dmg her, much less kill her without a 2nd retaliation?

maiden marsh
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no amount of retries solves that

dull flame
pale kettle
royal stag
dull flame
pale kettle
dull flame
pale kettle
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i can do the second team with raku mehira sadly it uses rowan though

dull flame
south pilot
#

any way I win this? been stuck for a week

warm swan
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@south pilot how many hits can grez take from saveas?

south pilot
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2

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i mean they just melt my whole team in 3 seconds except roseline

warm swan
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Can you sub daimon with arden? Do you have a brutus?

dull flame
#

Can you sub silvina with arden?

warm swan
#

Hey, I said arden first. Find your own sub solisemelon

dull flame
#

😆

frosty imp
#

Help pls

pearl night
feral mountain
#

Any help?

tight juniper
# feral mountain

Brutus, Thoran, Oden, Daimon, and Ferael. If needed, replace thoran with Lyca for haste

tight juniper
# pearl night Any tips ?

Try thoran, Rowan, lyca, fera, and daimon. Replace thoran with Brutus if you need more stalling. If your rowan has gear, he can be used Frontline

feral mountain
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Wdym

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Like how do u want me to set it up like who in front

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On

tight juniper
#

Yeah tidussnout

old oar
#

Anyone who can help?

little hinge
ruby belfry
#

This Lucius is killing me

#

My heroes

vestal grail
vestal grail
midnight bronze
vestal grail
#

kaz is kind of a power check sometimes bc she just dodges and one shots, if u can get some kind of immunity/shield such as brutus or lucius that will help, also cecilia/nara/eironn should be used to snipe the nemora, try to build those heroes

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oden is rly good here and if ainz can get his ults fast enough so nemora doesn't cancel out his damage then he can help a lot, the enemy has a lot of dangerous backlines so i reccomend tasi or oden + nara + lyca, and use ur tankiest heroes in the front

ruby belfry
#

Not*

midnight bronze
#

Try
Daimon

Brutus
Rowan
Antandra
Oden

ruby belfry
#

Why did that lineup work so well XD

midnight bronze
#

Does ainz ult before he dies?

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Does Nara do her combo on shemira before she dies?

#

Do you have a Brutus?

ruby belfry
#

Now I’m stuck here lmao

#

Same heroes

#

I used an elite Brutus on stage 22-18 and it worked. Elite can be helpful

midnight bronze
#

Try
Ainz

Daimon
Arden
Brutus
Lyca/ Nara
I’m not sure on your stage so it may not work

midnight bronze
ruby belfry
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Defeat

midnight bronze
#

Does anyone die instantly?

ruby belfry
#

Oden Rowan and Brutus

midnight bronze
#

You can try to fit Ainz in there as long as he doesn’t die instantly and ults in time

ruby belfry
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Ok

midnight bronze
#

I’m not exactly a pro at line ups by I try my best

ruby belfry
#

He insta dies too

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It’s 👌 okay

midnight bronze
#

Just keep swapping people around till it works,
Daimon

Antandra
Rowan
Brutus
Ainz

ruby belfry
#

That one worked. Since ainz finally got his ugly

#

Ihate autocorrect

#

Ult

midnight bronze
#

Now I need help tidussnout

marsh nymph
#

can't kill kelthur

copper ibex
#

which team can you advise me?

pale kettle
#

Someone please help me

pale kettle
#

Would help if you posted yourbox so we could see what heroes you have

maiden marsh
# pale kettle

daimon, thoran, nara with dura's call, lyca/rowan, grezhul

vapid python
#

Should I garrison an Ainz and take out the Belinda?

split prairie
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@vapid python Okay good, SO, you can go ahead and garrison Ainz, but you don't need him to beat ch 25 lol.

who is the silvania jumping, is it shem or belinda

vapid python
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And the Tasi also stuns her if she’s not being focused bu the silvanis

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They all focus her and it’s my main damage

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I have algo gotten this to Ascended:

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If it helps XDDDDDD

split prairie
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Awesome, here's what I would do in your place, take out lucious for lyca, place shemira where your fawkes is, put belinda where shem is

vapid python
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Ok

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They don’t focus Shemira now, but I can’t pass

split prairie
#

You want them to focus shem

vapid python
#

This guys indta-destroy everyone

split prairie
#

take a ss of the after battle log

vapid python
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No no, I want shem to do damage, she’s the best i have

split prairie
#

@vapid python Put your faith in belinda as a carry- until you actually get one

vapid python
#

Belinda is a carry?

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And me thinking she was shit LMAO

#

also, what is that after battle log thing and where can I find it xD

split prairie
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@vapid python she is, but so is shem, but once again, you're way over levelled for where you're at so it'll work

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the bar thing in the bottom left

vapid python
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there you go @split prairie

split prairie
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@vapid python swap belinda/shems position, you want shem to take athalia/silvanias opening damage

vapid python
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Nothing

#

Insta-death, they just come and kill everyone in a matter of seconds

split prairie
#

@vapid python need the end of battle report

vapid python
#

There you go @split prairie

novel star
#

Any help? Can manual raku after brutus unshields but mishka always dies/is too low then from spin so raku can finish killing people.

rigid imp
#

manual raku without 30sig does nothing, i would use brutus instead of lyca

novel star
#

just meant im not ulting until after brutus shield goes away

rigid imp
#

use brutus to tank enemy brutus, nara hook vurk so mishka have more invasive power, gorvo there is fine since he provide extra stun

split prairie
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@vapid python just for fun, try this formation, looks like athalias ult is what's wiping, can try this and then try swapping brutus/lyca to see what stalls her ult the longest, same for silvania, but I can't remember if shell go after fawkes or belinda after she jumps shem

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@vapid python conversely, you can still just garrison ainz, +30 him, give him call and as much cc as possible so he can ult and do that as well

novel star
rigid imp
#

eye on raku, grace on gorvo
the rest is on you

vapid python
novel star
#

nara vs gorvo for higher tier gear?

#

nm

chrome flare
#

Any ideas?

novel star
rigid imp
#

well i don't have much experience with these heroes tbh

ancient hedge
#

Help plz

devout path
ancient hedge
#

Loading

#

I have pretty bad wifi

junior laurel
#

I’m just wondering how hard ima regret my level 180, Diamond Shamira with a level 20 sig item? I’m half way through chapter 17

warm swan
junior laurel
#

dimensional link?

warm swan
# junior laurel dimensional link?

When you get a dimensional hero (e.g. arthur, ainz, albedo, etc) you have to link them to another hero and it will copy that hero's ascension and stars.

junior laurel
#

oh wao that's nifty

#

can you sever that link or no?

warm swan
#

You can, but it costs 200, or was it 300 diamonds

maiden marsh
#

100

warm swan
outer patio
#

Yo, any buff lineups?

vestal grail
# outer patio Yo, any buff lineups?

respect for ascending satrana, u can play lucius frontline and satrana the other side of frontline with daimon behind her, rowan in the middle back and rosaline following lucius or following satrana

outer patio
#

Satrana and Rosaline are just so squishy still 😭

pale kettle
#

I can’t find a good formation and I’ve been stuck here for like 3 days

serene basin
humble zodiac
#

lyca instead of ferae

#

without +20 daimon you need higher level, i beat it with similar comps as you but with +20 daimon on my alts

short badge
#

It's better to place Oden on the other side so it teleports Grezhul and then hopefully Daimon can kill Isabella before she ults

pale kettle
#

How did you get away with this Kel? Everything dies in 5 seconds lmao @sleek delta

rigid imp
#

rng mostly kHAHAsos

pale kettle
#

Nvm this worked

sleek delta
#

Nice

pale kettle
#

Left with rng thoran fight now

plucky laurel
pale kettle
proven river
#

Guys does anyone got a zaphrael leg+

rigid imp
junior laurel
#

I already feel it

#

I can't ever get enough gear to level up all my stuff

static turtle
#

I was there yesterday 17-19 wasn’t just it 😞

#

Now I’m in CH19

junior laurel
#

I only have a few pieces of mythic gear, I can't even imagine ascended gear and how hard that would be to level up

static turtle
#

Ascended gear?

#

Interesting areyouseirus ainzpraise

little loom
#

Having trouble with this last one here

zinc elm
#

Help a g out

plucky laurel
zinc elm
#

Daimon 2 thoren 1 woman on the horse 3 oden 4 tasi 5

errant flower
#

I have a legenday mirael too

#

I don't think it is possible tho

proven river
#

What about:
Oden
------Daimon
Arden
------Brutus
Lyca or Tessi

winter marsh
#

What team for tower ?

vapid python
#

Not even with this I can finish this hell of a level

empty stump
#

Lyca was always my dodge tank of choice against athalia

vapid python
#

Nah I keep getting absolutely incredibly utterly destroyed xD

#

I will just wait and level up more and overpower them

static turtle
#

I need a line up I’m tired of relying on RNG

umbral whale
#

Completely clueless on this one, need help

empty stump
#

I usually throw some boots on Nara and have her pull mehira so that mehira doesn't get to summoner her 3 minions

#

Then I figure it out from there now that she does way less damage and isn't basically invincible

umbral whale
empty stump
#

That's fine, her only job is to pull mehira so she doesn't get the 3 symbols over her head

#

Once she does that her job is completed and I no longer care about her

#

Mehira doesn't need to be continuously crowd controlled, she just never summons them if she's grabbed at the start

#

Nara might not grab her fast enough to cancel it unless she has some haste which is why I put boots on her

pale kettle
#

Just saying ch 16 and no Rowan that’s kinda unlucky

umbral whale
#

you can do it tho, I am on 29-54 and still have an e+ rowan whom I cant use

faint crystal
#

12-34, anybody got any suggestions

keen dawn
midnight bronze
#

Been stuck for awhile

analog trellis
#

Anybody know how I can pass this level?

gusty wolf
gloomy hearth
#

Pls help imp stuck

hidden cobalt
#

That flora stage is proving a huge pain

barren river
#

Any issue with this lineup? Getting stuck a lot

royal stag
gusty wolf
warm yew
# gusty wolf Please help

Have you tried both daimon and mirael at there highest levels? Also, brutus can be more useful at than thoran most of the time

hidden cobalt
#

How would u line them up?

royal stag
hidden cobalt
#

Shucks used lyca in last comp to beat that

royal stag
#

@hidden cobalt like this

royal stag
hidden cobalt
#

In the 5pull?

#

Beat last comp@without lyca I’ll try that now

#

Tyvm! No doubt I’ll be back here soon enough haha

hidden cobalt
#

No I’d rather of not seen 48

royal stag
hidden cobalt
#

Yeah I’m dealing with it my ainz team can beat the first one

#

Or my lucretia team can but I don’t think either can beat the 2nd one

royal stag
hidden cobalt
#

No 5* call

royal stag
#

@hidden cobalt someone did it like this

hidden cobalt
#

Guess I need to re evaluate some stuff

high marlin
#

I wonder if I ss what I did for that stage

#

I didnt so it probably wasn't that bad tbh

weary snow
#

unsure if I can beat this lvl

royal stag
gusty wolf
static turtle
#

They give you a lot for free for a reason

maiden marsh
#

yeah, she makes great food for good heroes

static turtle
maiden marsh
static turtle
#

She’s top tier food for dimensionals

static turtle
maiden marsh
#

you can ascend niche heroes for dim links, rather than useless heroes

static turtle
# gloomy hearth

Some times you got to have a replacement for oden because he dumps all the enemies on your hero and your hero doesnt seem to be able to handle them

static turtle
gusty wolf
static turtle
static turtle
gusty wolf
#

ye thats the one ive seen

maiden marsh
static turtle
gusty wolf
#

the bootcamp thing?

static turtle
#

Especially when you need aN M one

maiden marsh
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garrison isn't something to be recommended very early on

static turtle
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and LB is a very easy faction to ascend a mediocre hero in for dim linking

maiden marsh
static turtle
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I’m also lvl 70 but I’m exiting CH 19

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Started 20days ago

maiden marsh
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are you first on your server leaderboard or something

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sounds like typical progress

static turtle
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Bec when I joined server 910 came up

maiden marsh
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anyways

static turtle
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I garrisoned joker as my carry (not adviced) and I already mustered up 70 more of those currency

maiden marsh
maiden marsh
static turtle
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Skipping him

maiden marsh
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poor idea

static turtle
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He’s more of a support than a dps or sub dps and with diamon being my first dps and me not being able to get him to L+

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I needed a dps quick

maiden marsh
static turtle
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All I’m waiting for now is M raku (I don’t use him) M+ Rowan ascended joker M diamon and M desira

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L mehira to

maiden marsh
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what does L mehira have to do with things

static turtle
static turtle
maiden marsh
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as you said, she works at E

static turtle
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But dies off quick if enemy has AOE

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She needs to be thicc for me

maiden marsh
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mehira is one of the tankiest heroes in the game simply because she can always take at least 4 hits

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her ascensions don't really help with that

static turtle
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Interesting areyouseirus

velvet mountain
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how do i beat this?
tried hooking belinda, but grez’s shield makes it very hard to kill her and nara dies very fast too.. so i tried hooking ferael but always lost at the end with just belinda, soldier guy, and the bard

maiden marsh
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don't put daimon across grezhul

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neuters his stats and he's getting hit by belinda to boot

static turtle
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I depended on RNG

opaque drift
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help D:

static turtle
opaque drift
static turtle
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You can mess around with the positions of the hero’s behind if it doesn’t work at first

barren river
maiden marsh
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pippa in middle or 5th slot?

maiden marsh
static turtle
maiden marsh
opaque drift
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yessir

static turtle
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@maiden marsh come help me

barren river
static turtle
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Might work might not work depends on their gear some times

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And artifacts

alpine gazelle
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Hello. I'm new to the game but this is currently my lineup and daimon is in front line. Where is daimon supposed to be though?

Also I keep leveling daimon to get stronger as he's my carry. Who should I level next though?

opaque drift
static turtle
alpine gazelle
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Thanks 😊

high marlin
static turtle
opaque drift
static turtle
opaque drift
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Or drop rowan and put fereal in front of Ezizh

opaque drift
high marlin
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You need merlin for albedo si30

opaque drift
high marlin
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Yea give it a try

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Tho you might have to move ainz bc of the enemy fereal

opaque drift
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getting quite close , might be a rng battle

high marlin
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Yeah you gotta use fereal on Ezizh stages. He can deny ults and such

faint falcon
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anybody got some advice to beat this? I'd like to beat it today so I can use the faction scrolls. I also have 2 more crystal slots so recommend a hero and I'll check if I have it

golden perch
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Oden
Daimon
Silas
Brutus
Fereal

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Tasi
Lyca
Eironn
Daimon
Fereal

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First one Daimon can get to Arden faster with oden help. Second eironn pull Arden. Gl

static turtle
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What should I do

maiden marsh
untold shadow
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What’s the best lineup I could make with these guys for general content

static turtle
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Did this much dmg could hv been better if I got my mehiras ult up before battle

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But I forgot to do so

warm sky
maiden marsh
warm sky
slender ledge
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So if I'm 253, and usually losing in ch25, usually run daimon with rowan/ Rosa support, change up alittle depending on enemy line but not working.. what's my best line up?

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Or should I just keep trying and expect to lose 5 times or more per round?

midnight bronze
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Losing 5 times per fight is not a lot at all

ancient hedge
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Pls help me