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Having a tough time finding a thoran clear for any of these stages. They all have ezizh or Brutus.
any tips on how to beat this stage? my heroes keep getting one shot
You need a tank wukong should be your carry
Need help thanks
@maiden marsh sorry for the ping but how did u get this comp to work? My kren needs to rng survive the eironn pull but then he won’t do enough damage to kill the tree and the anoki
Your kren engraved?
Engraving adds a lot of damage, and makes him ult a lot faster
I'm not saying engrave kren, buuuuut

E30 is the moneymaker but e41 for the extra offensive stats is real nice
Gotcha ty xD
These are the nodes for e41 if you decide to do that
Alrighty! Thanks 🙏
Btw another question, can I switch someone with raine
What’s her purpose over there
Probably, though she's pretty much best in slot there unless you have an M+20 mortas maybe
She makes kren attack faster, ult quicker, makes all enemies take more damage, and makes kren's crit chance much, much higher
Ah ook, cuz I linked raine with Arthur and I might need him in my ainz team
Guess I’ll figure another way then 😅
Raine is probably replaceable with an E mortas or a lyca if they aren't used already
Sick ty 👍
Grezhul carry😍
Oof
Guys I'm stuck at a stage been stuck for days and getting destroyed and I can't level much up any tips
@sick oasis silvina, golus, ferael, mirael, arden?
yeah was following a guide
I meant the line-up for the stage you are stuck on
oh
@warm swan
vedan alts befor me and just owns me and silvina just 1 shots my supports i tryed every combo of heros i have so far i think just get shredded
Put daimon in instead of tasi
@warm swan omg i dont believe it sorry for wasting ur time i been on this stage for over 30% of my total time just did 1 attempt and i passed the stage
Also you can remove golus or whatever his name is and put daimon on 1 and Silas at 3 @sick oasis
Complain strat op
haha oh no next stage not looking good 😄
need more levels i guess but im stuck for that for now
my daimon is so squishy its unreal
Just remember that silvina attacks the mage with the lowest defense. So an e hero will def get 1shot. Plus her sister also attacks the weakest hero on your team.
i put the best armour on it daimon and he got 2 hit XD
what artifacts should i put on them coz im not really sure what gose on what 😄
I'm sorry, I really can't remember what artifacts are available at that stage of the game.
@devout oyster rowan, talene, daimon, brutus, and uhh.. tasi myb?
they just all die to safiya
so this is kinda funny
i put the daimon skin back on and apparently this thing has powers
it does
he did 105 mil a couple battles later

hi guys, need some help. Shall I keep trying to pull daimon copies or focus on wilder instead
hello am i hard stuck on this chapter? 19-6, have been playing for about 7 days already
Daimon daimon daimon
Need help thanks
isabella
torne
nara
thoran
shemira
see if your nara can pull eironn before he does
In need of assistance please
show your other heroes
ferael
---lucius
rowan
---shemira
silvina
OK ill give it ago
also try to start upgrading your other heroes because 4 of the 6 legendary+ heroes you have are fodder (their only use is to be fed to better, useful heroes)
fodder is always an issue 
Almost tempted to buy Di vinci so I can garrison aniz
ainz?
Yeah he ment to be a good carry
Almost tempted to spend the £50 to buy it so I can garrison something I'm new 2 about 8 days in give or take a day or 2
ALot to learn
you really dont need Ainz early on
Ainz needs some good support
Help
I usually use Lucretia Cheese, thoran Cheese, ainz comp but idk what to use as a 4th team I'm stuck on this fight
Try Brutus, Daimon, Mehira, Rowan and Raku
Thats ok u only want him for his immunity
People have done it with thoran Cheese but I can't get thoran to do anything
mine just dies
Need help figuring out who to use as my 5th so I can work on getting them up to L+ or mythic
Mercs r about to reset so use them
Okay
Some help?
have you tried switching daimon with lyca?
thoran in the middle, nara will hook him and when he revive he wil stun pack
should work like this
ferael
grez/brutus (i prefer grez if he have good gear)
thoran
rowan
daimon
I'm trying 10 hours complete this oaoaoaooaaooa
My daimon can’t really ult though
you can try this too
I don’t have the shield artifact yet
Gwyneth
-----thoran
grez
-----daimon
hodgkin
i can't see one row of your heroes
it won't make any different, just retry until ferael leave your daimon using ult
Suggestions?
@past urchin yo, what teams are good for the harp arti?
the windfall gorge, ainz just melts for me lol
I Ainzed it bro.
Possibly with Merlin...so theres that.
Help me with the stage 
Been stuck here for a few weeks, any help?
Sadge nobody builds oden at the beginning :(
Sauras
who should i switch out?
Ira or estrilda
I would replace estrilda and ira with saurus and either a satrana or niru
i think ill replace ira
rowan
---daimon
silas
---rosaline(gwyneth)
gwyneth
Any tips ? I'm trying since 4 days lmao
when your rowan have t2 boots then you can try again 
if nothing works just wait, you can merc someone tomorrow
Can I somehow pass this without mercing Ainz? I tried swapping around, grabbing either Nemora, Tasi or Arden, even none at all, but I just can't pass this ...
try:
that mythic+ graveborn
shemira
rowan
lucius
brutus
use brutus instead of thoran
rowan
daimon
nara
brutus
oden
Still get wiped out, sorry
damn, maybe focus on upgrading brutus and the other graveborn cause i have a full ascended+ team at chapter 22
Plz help. Brutus is literally impossible to kill
i think you need to merc a 309 zol to pass this with charm comp since immune brutus will literally blow up your team
Damn ok thank you
zol 30 will help you finish that jerk 
Hopefully I won’t have to face another brutus to finish this chap
cant u just use janky comp of like daimon+ainz or something
considering your ainz is 9/9 anyway, just surviving to 15s is enuf most the time
Doesn’t work I’ve tried. Fae prevents that from working.
Ty that actually worked
pretty stuck on this one, have merc available as well
Can you record how a relatively good attempt turns out? If not, a battle report screen should suffice
tbh its a stat check for daimon, I can consistently get pretty close with brutus, fawkes, and/or safiya alive, and daimon is 1 ult away/ 2-3 seconds away from winning
Try oden over pippa, should be a straight upgrade.
oden does some weird things, i tried him first over pippa
Does he not port estrilda?
Question- is there anyone that I should be lvling up that I am not?
he does, but the brutus isn't stunned when he dos that, and basically its the same outcome with pippa instead we now have to face a 3/4th hp brutus instead of the invincible brutus
I see, no windbinder will do that
should I take the non faction boots to t2 and then feed them to gb boots once I get those eventually? would be a huge stat boost
Nah
alright, I'll wait i guess ( will take a few days to get any upgrades in the team)
Your current mercs aren't cutting it?
nah, I tried the ainz, he doesnt get to ult, even if he does theres the brutus
108749280
Try my grez, or anything else that looks like it can help.
alright I'll add you in a minute, thanks!
If lucretia doesn't wanna work with the original team, try putting her with hypogean fodder to stack her SI quickly
is there a reason for fawkes to banish her sometimes, and sometimes he doesnt even care
That's dodge and tenacity, she can both evade and resist the coffin quite frequently
can i try your grez, I cant seem to make it work with lucretia
I get the feeling grez will work better, try slotting him in over brutus
Isnt that a pretty low stage? Lucretia with a shroud should be plenty aint it
Lucretia out here strugglin against brutus apparently
Read pins in question, that L gwyn is alrd a mistake
Oh right brutus. Hmm, yeah seems grez should be better. Especially with urs
should I place grez somewhere else, he is dying quick when i put him in front of brutus
Didn't know my grez was such a lightweight at 60 def
, place him somewhere else then yeah.
I am literally gonna dance around like an idiot when I clear this stage, been trying for a few hours now
Hello, I'm at ch37-8, kinda stuck on the T3, I can do every other one but struggling here : https://imgur.com/a/o49sRXn
What team could fit there ?
Edit : heroes available in link
Try the lineup lyca brutus grezhul pippa daimon
Already did a team with eiiron and luc
I have mostly lb / gb up as show in pics on imgur
nvm, forced it and won with my comp after 150 try
@maiden marsh Thankyou very much!!! cleared it finally

Need help for a wrizz and soren team
Merc saurus, rosa, twins, warek, lorsan/mortas
what should be a good team consisting of leo, rowan, daimon, tasi, and silas? and Again, I know that there isn’t any specific team for every single battle but what would be a good base formation?
Or what just a good bass team in general with my heroes?
base* and btw i’m chap 27-10
What’s a good team to beat 6-35 n so on thru chapter 7
Anything I can do?
Any help on how I can get unstuck?
Suggestions??
So I've finally reached the point where my team doesn't just braindead clear through campaign, is it possible for me to make a comp that I can use for a significant amount of time ?
@eternal badger put Rowan in the middle
And daimon at top left so he doesn’t get dragged
you need more heroes, but until then
eironn shemira kelthur oden saurus
daimon thoran grezhul saurus lyca
oden silas skreg skriath tidus
shemira
---daimon
silas
---thoran
davinci
shemira
---daimon
kelthur
---thoran
rowan
Ah I see, thanks
this formation could work for example
eironn
---saurus
kelthur
---shemira
oden
I see, thanks ! Also, I just pulled a rowan if that changes anything, but if not, I'll use the one you listed
rowan is top tier its worth investing in him, you can use him instead of kelthur in back middle
Ah nice, thanks again !
Still get absolutely massacred, thanks for the help though
ty
but leo is linked to shem
so idk
replace davinci with rowan until you get a dim key
dim key?
also daimon instantly dies and he’s my carry
he has to be in the back
the teams gets shredded
Any recommendation on who to use or prioritize
Damien, silas, oden
Idk how many retries this took me but worked
Put Thoran back middle, then put Rosaline next to Thoran
Try to see if Ainz lives long enough to burst all enemies
can anyone help me
Thinking of going for Ascended Zikis, anyone know of a couple good comps to use him in??
Can anybody tell me like a good ainz team for stage 11 pls
anyone know a resource of good 5 pve team with no overlap for ch 36+?
@frosty imp an uninvested ainz is meh. You're probably better off with the usual carries like mirael or daimon
need some help with this
is the phoenix girl any good?
need help on this
I’ll try my best
Use credit card
Or ask seb- nvm
Fera
>> thoran
Daimon
>> Rowan
Tasi perhaps (Silvina will just murder oden in 2 seconds)
Oh are you copying my clear on afkhelper?
Oh, it might be let me check
Oh yeah it is @sleek delta
T2 boots weapon and hel, the purple chestplate
LOL you found exactly the right person to help you out
Only artis you need here really, is call on thoran, most likely t2 5* boots on pippa if thoran not ult’ing fast enough, and +20/ warden, thoran needs optimal gear too
Ikr xD
I have T1 5* boots on pippa there and warden
@pale kettle what’s the reason for the clear failing? Not enough dmg? Or Thoran isn’t ult’ing?
Niche strat, but I also like to completely remove all large furniture from my Thoran for cheesing
@patent hemlock he said Thoran doesn't ult
Isn't ulting, I'm following what Kels telling me to do now, it was his clear i was copying xD
Ah, try t1 5* boots on pippa if you haven’t, that usually helps
Accidentally said t2 up there 
You need haste on pippa probably
Most likely, i didn't know that was a thing at all, I'm still pretty new to thoran cheeses
Pippa needs to be a fast squirrel 
This is my usual setup with the cheeses
That should be enough, but I have 3* warden on pippa
I'm still working on getting him a helm that isn't t2, been unlucky it's been like two weeks
If it comes to it you can rock no helm
It works, was only the tasi left, seems easily doable with retries
Nice, yes rng will do it
I just removed his helm now and got it down to tasi left only
Thank you @sleek delta , the odds of running into the man himself : D
All good 
Ayyyy
Congrats
All done, you've just saved me so much time tryna find a new comp to use instead of thoran ^^

Grats, gl on the rest 
Appreciated, ly both xox

genuinely since 4 Hours sitting on 37-8 429 and i cant get the thoran cheese to work no matter what i do
just keep leveling up on those chapter, it's stil to early
Test server:..Someone help me pass
Only at 2x deficit and I’m struggling HARD
Oh uhhh merc
Can u show artifact page
yep , 30 mins ago
Daimon, Thoran had call, ferael had duras eye, Lyca and Brutus use whatever
Or u could press hero info page
I have lower level heroes and I don’t have stars on things
I forgot you could even do that 
Ye, even with my levels almost everyone gets one shot
Tbh you shouldn’t have done that gear to daimon
Thoran doesn't generate enough energy for 2nd ult, will rng do this?
maybe if rng make him hit and kill nara before other i think
Should a l+ rowan?
On right, one last thing I forgot to ask, in this formation, who is the carry ?
Could someone help me make a few comps from these heroes?
Focus on graveborn escpecially geezhul nor daimon
Hi guys, im new to the game and currently stuck at floor 80 and 6-36
Which character should i used? I still confused which character should i invest more
And i can ascen a between mirael and rosaline, which one should i ascen?
I'm new aswell, but rosaline is good, so maybe ascend her?
I'd say put the two wilder tanks out front, then ascended rosaline, following wu Kong. I'm not sure of the other... I'm really new aswell so that's what I would do but I'm not sure
you want to make mirael L+ using fodder, as laid out in the pinned new player guides
Don't up shemira beforr late, just use daimon for carry, and then change to ainz bedo if u can
@static turtle
1.Joker 2.brutus
Shemira rowan daimon
Dont upgrade any legendary if you lack of copies it wud be slow your progress
Please someone help me, thanks
It’s joker that’s carrying me rn diamon barely does dmg
I can’t use joker and shemira together
Their souls are fused
Can I even do anything here? Or do I wait
Idk I would do it with joker on 3 Raku on 5 rowan 4 and Hodgkin 1 Daimon 2
What should i do?
shemira
---thoran
nara
---daimon
-grezhul
Thank you @karmic shore
Maybe a good Belinda
And replace who with her?
Rosaline
What formation would beat this team??
Need help, please
@trail snow nem, lyca, brutus, rowan, daimon. Or brutus, lyca, thoran, rowan, daimon and hope rowan survives silvina's dive
and how to place them?
@trail snow exactly in that order. Remove all your heroes in the stage and click the hero portraits I listed one by one in consecutive order. So nem would be in position 1, brutus in position 2, and so on and so forth
second worked after some tries, thank you so much
You're welcome. Goodluck
Help!
Joker not so good, better ainz
Not what the ppl I asked said
now I’m confused and it’s too late
and who said that? Maybe their have joker 309,all hero in 309 stat is always good
U still in early game, not too late u don't make any mistake,just like what i said,dont up shemira,but ur shemira is already in m,so up her to asc for fusion to dimen,and then just focus on carry like daimon, ainzbedo ect
belinda
---rosaline
rowan
---lucius
cecilia
@karmic shore what artifacts?
I just passed the floor with RNG
He acc carried me 2 CH and a half
From CH14-38
To 17-19 in less than a day
Just takes some hard RNG on some floors
Hey. I used daimon comp as 1st. But I don’t know what 2nd team would be optimal. Any suggestions ?
Bedo still in progress? Why do you have an l+ alna and l luc though.
No albedo. Cause I played like a no head chicken 🐔
Who’s in the diamon comp
@static swift Need to work on her, cos you already got the rest of the dim team anyway. And focus on either luc or alna, not both of them. As for your 2nd team, assuming this is for campaign, I'd still use ainz and whatever filler heroes you got. You can also hazard a thoran cheese if the situation calls for it.
Anyone got a Idea how to beat this team ?
My Heroes:
- Chicken 3 Furniture
- Lucretia lvl 30 SI
- Brutus and Eironn lvl 1 SI
- Daimon lvl 20 SI
- Ferael 4 Furniture lvl 10 SI
- Rest of Mythics lvl 1 SI
We can see your heroes and their furn and their si in their portraits
ohh ok
i know you want to try with 5 pull luc but how is your luc gear ?
Something like brutus in position 1, fera in 3, daimon in 4. Flex can be lyca and saf. Or even that lucius. See how it plays out first.
Daimon thoran Rowan ferael and Nara
get albedo, make her 303 and you got a solid 2nd team with AAA comp (fill with merlin+pop)
I need sooo much assassin gear now and that’s the one I kept on avoiding
I’m completely stuck rn
No comp is working and most elites I hv don’t hv good gear
Can’t get albedo. Still need to borrow ainz 2 months
look good but instead of grace use call or eye is better imo
tried it but tessi banish fucks me every time
this one worked thanks
No problem. Goodluck
all right
What’s your ID
Friend list is full
now you can add me
Just did
accepted
👆
What happened to all her gear
its still on
Looks like the game minimizing the gear rarity for borrowers
xD
ok
bro how do u have an M+ luc at ch 28 
yes, heroes lvl and gear are base on your martial rating
luc simp 
good question
scamgazer must love him
?
if you wanna know why its now accended its bc i am very unlucky pulling her
nah you have her M+ ealy af, I just got to Ch28 yesterday and only have her E
ahh ok
Anyway, have you checked for formations on afkhelper.nax.is?
no
ok thx
The site has lots of formations for every stage incase you're stuck
ok nice
btw 2 off from accended
;(
I'm stuck at ch 13 . 39.
What are my best option/ best lineup
What should be my current focus
send a picture from the enemys
a nara would be good against the isabelle
And if you don't have a nara?:p
@pale kettle have you tried it with charm comp + raku?
Yeah
Mehira just gets sucked in
From my understanding the comp should look like this
And I have windbinder on her also
Or swap lyca with brutus instead
Mehira dies faster
Ah but yeah, need to interrupt elf boy first. Oh well, just daimon it if nothing else
How man I interrupt eirron
nara interrupts eironn
Almost got it with Nara
whats a good team?
Finally got chapter 28 done
@warm swan mehira just doesn’t survive
Give it up with mehira 
Try another approach. Like rowan, brutus, fera, daimon, tasi
i’m in the middle of chap 27
She literally solod the whole peak of times
for real xD
Yep nah
What about pump some levels in the crystal
Nvm I saw ur power
idk what comps is good

Will need more than that chief. What happened. Was it a total wipeout? Ulmus ulted and just threw rocks at your team?
what about thoran chesse
I need 13 more Lucretia
huh
@ember steppe you engraved da vinci instead of ainz?
i just got ainz
what a meltdown xD
just like, what’s a good comp for me rn
That's still not a good reason. But anyway, for your comps, just daimon. Tasi for cc myb. Rowan for his potions. Brutus for a meat shield. I have no da vinci so I'm not familiar with his kit.
l
eironn
---saurus
Rowan
---shemira
oden
so this was a formation suggested to me, but one thing I'm not certain on is which character would be the carry in this formation, i'm assuming it's eironn since i've heard he was a good carry, but I thought i'd ask before levelling
That's uhh, a questionable line-up to say the least
this is the roster I currently have, except with Rowan as I pulled him after taking this screenshot, if you'd recommend a different lineup i'd be glad to hear it
Wow. Those line-ups they gave to you and to others. 
ive retried this level half a hundred times with different combinations, my dudes all get stomped in the first 10 seconds, is there any way to get out of this or am i just stuck
@alpine fulcrum I would recommend you to the pinned beginners guide on #classic-questions . It is specifically mentioned there on who would be the ideal carry at your chapter, plus general team composition.
help me , no matter formation, different hero’s , whatever. I get slaughtered the first 5 seconds in to the battle
change thor and brutas formation
tell me if that doesn’t work
nah doesnt work for your level, i used this team to clear that chapter
What heroes you got ?
I would put nara down rigt, lica front row
@proven river not alot started only 1-2 weeks ago
I don’t understand can you show me what you mean
Bear
-----Daimon
Tessi
-----lyca
Nara
OHH OK LEMME TRU THAT BRB
Instead of thoran maybe rowan middle and lucius front
I see, I checked it out, and it would appear based on the comp mentioned there, I lack a 5th support (Mirael, whatshisname (the knight), rowan, oden, ?) who would you recommend instead ?
hmm, @proven river they are dying slightly less quickly now but still getting rekt hard :/, odent keeps getting shut down adn cant do anything
Can you make a vid of it ?
Always better to see the play
I still lose but it helped a lot better
try to cange nara and the guy with the wolves
Mishka?
huh nothing moving
could it be i have finally hit the point wherein i simply cannot progress? i see everyone else who is at chapter 22 usually have team of 220-240
yea thatts her name ok
i think you need to download it
my team for chapter 29
its 200/220
ahh ok i think youre missing some kind of a damage dealer
if i max oden SI & furniture he can function as damage dealer right
daimon would be perfect here
oh!, i need 3 more copy for daimon to ascend, i was considering doing thoran instead, but if thats the case i will focus daimon
i would focus daimon first
still die
but can you try ainz instead of oden maybe ?
got a picture of all your heroes ?
i just got ainz today from the loan thing, has no investment in any SI
its worth a try xD
@alpine fulcrum arden for additional cc
Ah right, I completely glossed over him woops, thanks !
hes binded to my ferael, maybe if i bind him to oden it might be ok
ah dammit, he dies so fast, cant pop his ult off
when i get daimon, who should i replace him with?
maybe brutus but it depends on the situation
Anyone got a Idea on how to conter the cannons from the dwarfs ?
daimon is pretty good
i think i need to get him to 180 and at least unlock his SI if i want to use him properly
Any help is appreciated
I’ve never fought against 2 kelthurs before
Show your hero’s
help?
put saveas in the top 5 and thoran or Daimon in the crystel Saveas is till 160 a beast later u can use him as fodder. U can Try thoran Bruts Silvana Shemira and Oden
they’re still killing me too fast
silvana out daimon in.
willing to use merc, any suggestions?
merc a 209 grez (could be either 20 or 30 but have to be 9f) then go for this
rowan/daimon (i prefer daimon here but its up to you)
daimon/rowan
brutus
grez
nara/ferael (maybe your eironn work too but idk)
okay i’ll try it
do your rowan have good t2 boots and weapon ? if he is then you can try this
oden
brutus
ferael
rowan
daimon
i can give ainz armor, either she can have T1 LB boots or T2 DIM boots and T1 GB weapon if that is enough?
higher dodge is better, it will allow him to use ult if rng is good enough
is this good enough?
and call or vaitily cause before she couldnt get her ult in so removed it temporally
yeah look ok, try putting him at frontline and see how long can he survive (its really rng)
okii
can someone help?
i think call will help him more with the attack from tasi
okii thankuu
this are the artifacts on them
yeah look good
@opaque drift im rc 220 and beat that stage, wanna add me to see how I did it?
yessir , well i just beat it ahhaha
ill still add :D
added u
112268968@opaque drift
ty again :D
ah nice well done!
i would put someone to bait khasos axes so he won't kill your ainz immediately
maybe like this
ainz
brutus
rowan
lyca
albedo
@rigid imp not sure if 2 dims would work itll miss albedos SI
Merlin instead Lyca
could be merlin there too, at least he won't give khasos energy for kill count too fast like lyca
No fun
any suggestions? zikis and mehira both have the call, not sure what artifacts to do for anyone else. i am able to level up my crystal a bunch if that's what's needed, or i could ascend mehira or mortas if that would help more instead
Or... maybe just ascend Lucretia 
I need help pls
Should I merc someone?
maybe
Gwyneth
-----Fawkes
Rowan
-----Hendrik
Raine
Anybody know a way I can beat this?
I’m fairly early in the game but can someone give me a team composition for general use
got a replay for us ?
any tips?
Any tips or suggestions?
Is there any hero’s that I should focus on / lineup recommendations
Read pins in #classic-questions
Front: hogan Lyca back: arden fera w/o weapon daimon
Also level up daimon si to +20 @sick granite
im working my way, but i just got her to mythic and am out of emblems
Him*
sorry, him
one question, why did you recommend 3-skill heroes? wouldnt it be obviously better to use my crystal heroes?
the lineup did not win btw
Cause I didn’t really know what to work with here
Also mireal is quite good until daimon m
Also Arden roots op
Ish-
i just got it using front: daimon thoran back: ferael nara rowan
Put Brutus on crystal
Put him in the crystal he is useful
I just did
Use him where Lyca is?
I think @faint current can probably take it from here
Daimon shouldn’t be frontline in 99% of situations
I’d take solise out, Daimon where she was, Brutus front
And I agree cause he’s my carry and likes to be shredded in front row
Ok imma try it
This makes enemy damage pop his shield, reducing his attack, crippling his damage
Never realised
His huge stat gain from signature item needs his shield to stay up
He’s tank class but you should think of him as a mage
That’s the point
He should have survived 8 seconds
Athalia is a pain in my ass
The idea is to get Daimon kills so he can be a killing machine by the time his teammates die
Athalia is difficult to deal with, yes. You’ll need a geared Lyca or Fera to have any chance of surviving her onslaught.
Or could put Brutus opposite her
I put Brutus opposite her every time
Maybe Brutus Lyca Daimon Fera oden
It just worked, I put lyca on Athalia
Nice
Weirdly I find athalia a bigger pain than mehira most of the time
Mehira is easily countered
Put Brutus across thane
I've done that before and thane shreds everything
It only just worked on some stages
Oden and fera can slow him down with energy taking
Is the reason this not working because off Lucretia being 303 instead of 309? I've seen this exact comp in afk helper but it won't work for me
Could be rng
End with a 1v1 Vs the fat guy and always loses
What's their RC?
Wut
What level are their heroes
442
Ok, it could be the nine furn so Rigby doesn't ult, or you just need crazy rng.
Reckon if I pump 5 lvls in it'll work?
Could
have you tried using that +30 raku? use him with people that have heavy cc
ferael rowan tasi etc.
@pale kettle
I have
try manual so raku doesnt ult
I mean he dies b4 he can even ult
hmm, dunno then, at some point grez 9 could do it i reckon
I’m trying the raku mehira comp not gong very well I must say
Grez is at 3-
yea, i mean you should try to get the 9
But any other suggestions to help me past this stage
not rly honestly, some stages take time
This is the closest I got on this stage
try everything, use every hero on ur entire account
Uhhh
@pale kettle if you wanted to used raku mehira shud be wear magic artifact that give her energy ,
Try swap ferael cuz he dont needed better using oden to teleport eiron smth like
Brutus/lyca rowan
Oden mehira raku
Im using windbinder on mehira
Nara pulls eironn to interrupt
how do i beat this
Try this,
Ferael
Daimon
Lyca
Brutus
Raku
The idea is, Brutus, lyca get pulled by eironn but it doesn't matter, raku ideally dodges the pull, ferael for the stun, daimon for the extra sustained damage, if daimon can't frontline, try using ferael in his place, it would be good if he uses his stun and then dies, if not remove his weapon and replace lyca with thoran or something. I cleared these wilder eironn stages with what I mentioned above pretty reliably although at a lower chpt but with lower lvls as well. Good luck👍
help
@pale kettle do you have the barricade? Does it protect raku?
Also try Brutus instead of Thoran.
Don’t have barricade
Oh. Isn't it available on that chapter yet?
It almost worked got soloed by tasi
And now I can’t get it
It is but I can’t figure out how to get the depths of time 100%
I’m literally missing one single chest
@umbral whale just replaced Brutus with Rowan and worked VERY well
Pog 👍 glad It helped
still need help
Do something like
Daimon
Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Nara
You could also try replacing thoran with lyca
why not ainz it?
I'm ainzing a different stage
But I stopped pushing, I'll start again tomorrow and switch it around
what stage u ainz on?
iirc, i cheesed this stage with thoran
r1 thoran, r2 ainz, r3 5pull, r4 kren is what i used i think
doesnt work? am i not strong enough?
Help
how about
rowan
daimon
nara
lucius
tasi
try using a cc support in place of rowan, someone like ferael and yeah you are strong enough just need to do some trial and errors
How I will win?
ok
So if I get my 4 copy of daimon from hero box should I make him my carry and ditch the fodder team/mirael carry
Keep the fodder team but get Daimon to m +20 and yes, ditch mira
well i need to feed 1 of my fodder and take him out crystal should i just leave the rest for now then?
what should my general team look like?
Put Brutus and Thoran in the crystal then the comp can be like Brutus, Thoran, Daimon, and some other heroes depending on the situation like Ferael, Tasi, Silas, Arden
so daimon back line?
Yeah, he may be a tank but he needs some stalling
should i do hes si this is my first time see this part of the game?
Yes, his +20 is useful and makes him an amazing carry
tyty this is a ton better mireal carry wasnt going to well and just hit cp 14
Am I doing anything wrong? Or do I need to just retry a hundred times
Someone pls help idk what to do
The closest matchup I can get I think
Nvm after swapping ferael for tasi I now can’t kill warek
I GOT IT
Sorry for not replying, went to bed. r2 is thoran but if it works for one I'll do it, I'll have a go later today, gotta get up and have some breakfast and work for now
i cleared it like yesterday, but i alrd went to 36 so i cant ss my clears to you, soz
You flew through ch 35 in a day? you monster
im only like 10 levels above ya, not that hard especially when the nerf happened
My knowledge of this game is very non existent, I've gotten this far using afk helper and help from guild members
im only back at this game like last week, cleared both 34 and 35. now stagnant in 36 for building stuff
Yeah i heard 36 and above is where you hit a brick wall, not looking forward to it
What could be my 4th team?
raku charm maybe? after +30
What character
i’m stuck
Show your box so we know what youre working with
wym by that
go to heroes, click all and screenshot and show us
I was going to say don't legendary heroes but some people still disagree and i cba arguing
i don’t wanna argue, i just need help so i can clear this boss and finish 21
Ah i didn't mean you dw
Erm honestly you don't have a lot to work with, I'm not experienced enough to help thought maybe if i saw the rest of your box i could think of something but na, try afkhelper see if it has a solution
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@vagrant ibex raku cant do solo damage if theres a tasi , dats why i reccomend oden skills and hes a hard hitter also
Can you show me the comp?
mehira (E is enough, she need mage book to ult fast), rowan, rosa (use this if you want faster mehira ult), raku (i think ppl use kren too), other slot are flexible
https://i.redd.it/baect1tzwci71.png
check the charmizard section, you can use it without khazard (called charm comp)
@daring sequoia why do you have an m+ daimon and an L daimon? I believe you can revert a hero?
Thanks mod
raku charm normally ends up something like this,
ezio and tasi are swappable for something tankier, or more like daimon who can help finish enemies off
as with all team comps, subs are subject to change
what do you want me to revert
Can't beat this
That L daimon
Yes
do I revert my nara to
Yes to both
no, not nara, E is enough for a long time
do I open the graveborn cards
ok
??
It won't be stronger
? wdym
Go Q, tell them
you tell em, i gotta have my dinner
You answered first
i dont even know what is his/her question lol
How much does Lika need to swing the item?
@warm swan i am really at a lost, i dont understand
swing the item? im sorry but can you elaborate alittle more?
One second
this is what i got left with
i think you should hold on to this for awhile, not really worth doing this
ok
Same, just her, I don't know how to translate
@visual umbra +30 for thoran
If only there was something...
do you mean why is your thoran not dealing enough dmg? the most probable reason i can give you is that thoran most likely do not have enough acc to hit dodging enemies. +0 thoran can charge his ult for once without dying, +30 charge twice without dying. thoran requires T2 or T1 weapon and shoes for the amount of haste+acc in order to hit enemies or else the enemy will just dodge everything
for eironn(or Lika for your case), his +20 will need his ult to come back and hit them again in order to deal extra dmg to enemies with the condition of enemy being frozen, his +30 increases the frozen time of enemy from 2 second to 4 second, just extra 2 second of being frozen
you mean lyca? +20 should be max for her, the furniture depends on you, 3/9 is fine for her. 9/9 is not required
well, if you alrd have 9/9 then so be it, but leave her at +20 should be plenty
Well, now the main thing to finish off to the white frame, there is a little left.
yeah, the fodders is a problem for almost all players, just need to be patient for it then

1.Farael
2.Mihka
3.Deimon
4.Oden
5.Lucretia
I hope it is clear 😅
Yea farael on first migka on second etc
Try
Oden
Daimon
Nara
Brutus
Ferael
If other doesn't work
Can I also ask for help?
Ah Ya same with mine atm I can't beat jt
Other artifacts maybr
how about this too
luc
brutus
ferael
mishka
daimon
i hope that mishka pack is too crowd that make gorvo jump there instead of luc place
and daimon stats steal make him become tasi target instead of luc
Any suggestions for this stage?
Daimon dies to fast at the end luc doesnt hace enough dps to kill turtle and tree
Doesnt work tesi banish takes out my luc
Ehb
ye have 2 extra L heroes 
This one works best for now but my daimon ults to slow maybe artifact change ?
yeah always give him call and hope that he ult faster 
eye may give more haste but its not really consistent
Goddamn sheep destorys me every time with her "10mil" of healing

dont worry, she became a tank in further chapter. have fun
daimon struggles against enemy that heals insanely, throw in ferael or silas for the antiheal
your roster is extremely built, too bad you do not have 5p yet for thoran cheese. i rmb thoran cheesing this stage so i cant really help you much. but with +30 daimon, you should be able to win with some mix and match here and there with ferael+rowan
you even have oden
Now tessi fucks me
Well, I'll go try.
tasi is just rng, just pray she doesnt tp to you and explodes your dps is all you can do
Got a lineup ?
Its the banish that fucks me
unfortunately i am bad at giving lineup suggestion to people
especially since i uses ainz to climb and not daimon, as i do not have daimon copies that early
I use luc xD
both foreign concept to me
yeah, ainz doesn't afraid of tasi unless he doesn't have the shield left i think 
also, you have 5p, cant you just do that?
5p ?
put in lyca for haste, maybe brutus for barricade to shield lucretia
5pull, ie eironn+chicken 3/9
oh right, you do not have shroud yet
But tessi banish fucks me there
Shroud ?
shroud of venture, give ranger a shield that blocks everything at the start until it expires or get broken with enough dmg
unlocks around 29-60 iirc
F
shroud of verdure, it unlock in trial of god at 30-60
ah, i was 1 chapter behind
My problem is the heal fucks me every time
you requires some anti-heal such as ferael or silas
Yea but then i would need a 6p xD
that heal fuck everyone everytime 
the combination of tasi+nemora+lord ulmus is madness, and that freaking beefy gorvo too 
kaz isn't a problem at all
3 legends
dont worry, i remember chap29 is loaded with ulmus+nemora+tasi and other stuff so have fun
Who gets banished instead of daimon also which one get prioretized
My problem is Isabella
there is atleast 4 comp with nemora+ulmus+tasi
And chapter 19 almost every boss has her
I hate lilith for that
either pull her or cc her with arden/ferael
They die instantly I tried and usually Nara pulls her but then gets killed giving her 200 energy off the bat
this is normally how i deal with enemy that has tons of heals, ferael's cc and antiheal. then rowan and mehira's cc ult is useful as well. as for grezhul, hes just there to finish off enemy that are at 1hp
Problem: my rowan is to low and daimon gets banished + turtle stuned
i cant help with that, you either use a merc or just wait for levels
I get destroyed...
The estralida + warek really destroys everything I put. And if that mage ults then it's probably gg lol
Using saurus instead of Brutus doesn’t make a difference?
He gets deleted in an instant lol
Oof lol
wont saurus just get thrown and dies
Maybe use that lucretia merc instead of Nara?
Ah fair enough
How much does Nara get done on Belinda? I assume she can’t kill Belinda on her own there
No, she's just there to cc
Very tricky, I don’t know either
i would swap daimon and ferael, swap grez and brutus then replace grez with thoran
how do i beat this?
nara that isa instead of eironn, oden/lyca/fawkes at nara position
better ask that in questions as Nef point out above
ok soriy it's my first time
That's fine, no harm done
Help needed
i saw someone post an img that they use cecilia opposite kelthur, think that would help
need help :3
Struggling with the last team (can 30 si someone probably raku once I get the gold emblems to 20si atm is there anything else I have really)
@hidden cobalt can you thoran cheese r1 instead? Oh wait. Nvm. Will prolly be hard with that deficit
You don't need 5* call to cheese tho
@hidden cobalt remove rowan from r1 and replace with merlin. Remove daimon from r3 and replace with oden. Use rowan and daimon on r4. Tasi and lyca can be the fillers. You can take brutus from r2 as well and make him the 5th member
Cheers I made it keen to have raku at 30si tho should make it abit easier
Gz
How exactly do u run a charmizard comp? I have the basic mahirah khazard 30 si
Didn’t know I needed m30 mehriah
That's for optimal investment. Can go with an e one for a long time
Does raku not make an end game pvp comp?
Im I’m a position where I can either pick a 30 raku or 30 albedo right now
And everyone keeps saying raku then albedo so I can use raku in pve could be in theory in c35 put in some hard work and carry a 4th team?
I'm sorry but I'm not an expert on charmizard because I have no khazard. 
Nobody mercs mine 😦
I do use the basic charm comp with raku tho and some fillers. A rosa usually. Or brutus for a meat shield
Yeah so a 30raku over 30 albedo ? U reckon
That’s all people take from me and one of them is like a discord friend that took alna cause I said it would help him in mv lol
This is a tough one 
For one, there is ainz, and I mean he is basically everywhere in the game.
Thing is I’m regularly buying chest in lab for diamonds and am only picking up red chest from this event so iv got about 160+ another 40+ 50 from lab so I’d only be realistically short 50 dim emblems
That’s my pile at the moment
I'd ask this on #classic-questions . More people will be able to contribute
@whole bramble what i did in the past
B4 the nerf and stuff, but worth a try nevertheless
you were lvl 272? thats a ton higher than me tho not sure itd work Imma give it a try tho
dont have Fera's SI actually
Who knows, i quitted awhile back, so might not work
Well, i guess u should check out afkhelper then tons of stuff thr
yeah I will but it usually doesnt have solutions for my RC or with ainzbedo in general
How do I cheese this stage? I don’t have Pippa +20
U dont need cheese at that stage
Yeah it’s only 134 deficits but I don’t have enough 4 teams yet 😢
Oh wait I have this one
I did manage to do it but I couldn't do the first fight
So I just rage quit but it's doable with that comp
Thanks man, does it work without Pippa +20?
Ah probably not sorry I missed that part of your previous message
No worries 😊 others comp on afkhelper all have Pippa +20 too, guess I need to rush it asap. Thanks a lot tho 🙏
What teams are u using?
It should be ezizh front btw I dno why he isn't in that screenshot, lorsan backline
These are the guaranteed winning teams for me, I'm just struggling with Lucretia comp, hope this helps
Lucretia 5-pull, Raku Mehira Rowan (no Khazard), Ainz Albedo Arthur Merlin, GB (no Alna)
Thank you. I’ll give it a try 👍
What round are you using the 5 pull on and has it worked? Also is your Lucretia 309 or 303
Here’s my box. I need Alna badly. My GB comp die too fast.
Raku, Mehira and Rowan should work as ur 4th Team
Yeah I just got Mehira few hours ago. It’s pretty hard to win without Khazard +30 😦
When u can beat the 4th Team with that try Thoran, Grezhul, Daimon, Silas and Oden on another Team
U need windbinder on her
My Lucr is 303, I just won 1st fight with 5 pull.
Btw how many furn for Silas or Oden ?
Only 4 on Silas, 5 on Oden
309 Oden can carry
Thanks man, I’ll give it a try now.
Bruh I was tryna do that for an hour and the rng just wasn't with me
Is your grez 9f?
Here’s what I use, 5* call helps Lucretia to ult fast enough to kill Rigby
Yeah my grez is 209, he dies instantly without Alna anyways 😅
Help!
Go on 
I don't have 5* call :(
Rush it during magician hat event then 😄 I just got mine yesterday. Pretty helpful for Thoran comp and Lucr comp imo.
Pointless screenshot, your lineup is as important as theirs, we need to see what you have to work with lol
So Safiya and Daimon?
@ebon hazel
Try Brutus Albedo Ainz Lyca Oden/Tasi
ainz and albedo melt without 3 dims in the team@ebon hazel
Lyca/merlin Brutus Albedo Rowan Ainz
Or Rowan Brutus Tasi Lyca Daimon likely would also work
Who's getting Rowan pot
no one lol everyones killed by athalia before reaching the mark where they get the potiob
Swap Lyca and Rowan's positions then
Or this probably won't work, Lyca Rowan Daimon Brutus Tasi but worth a try?
@ebon hazel daimon gets pot
it seems like everyone just dies in seconds when not using ainzbedo
Rowan Brutus Ainz Merlin albedo?
its doing better, still gets nuked so quick, closest Ive came is Albedo Brutus Ainz Merlin Tasi, which 1 in 20 tries leaves just brutus alone but then brutus easily solos my team
What artifacts are being used there





