lineup-help

[maiden marsh]

If that's the meta clear it's down to sheer retries to dodge kelthur and ferael spirits. That stage is cancerous.

[gaunt dragon]

Help plz

[long cedar]

Eironn/Tasi Saurus/Lyca/Pippa Unless you have Nemora, then use Tasi/Saurus Nemora/Eironn/Lyca

[gaunt dragon]

^beat it nvm

[devout oyster]

ive tried this at least 150 times idk what else to do

[gaunt dragon]

@devout oyster

[devout oyster]

my daimon is too weak the artifact isnt 20 yet

[gaunt dragon]

Also why do u have so many L heros?

[devout oyster]

bc i cant get copies of them, most of them i need like 1 or 2 more copys and they would be mythic or mythic+

[gaunt dragon]

u shouldnt upgrade them tho

u should wait till u can get them A

ur gonna run out of fodder so fast doing that

[devout oyster]

yea ik i dont have a ton

i also dont have grez or odin is there alternatives to them?

[gaunt dragon]

oden not really, he threw around eziz so he didnt pull daimon in

grez ig you could just use a good tank

try ur ainz bedo comp with brutus in back middle

[devout oyster]

what would be front

[gaunt dragon]

Bedo, and queen ig

Daimon and ainz in the back

Do you have bedo si30?

303 is required for bedo

[devout oyster]

no its at 20

[gaunt dragon]

Hmm what about her furn

[devout oyster]

i dont have any of hers rn

[gaunt dragon]

Yeah she isn’t gonna work

You have a lot of good heros with good levels but they lack the things they need to function well which I think the issue is

[devout oyster]

yea ik but idrk what else to use

[gaunt dragon]

Yeah idk either ur gonna just have to play around with it a lot and maybe get lucky

[devout oyster]

i only garrisoned ainz so i have him for 30 days

[gaunt dragon]

You have bedo and queen permanently?

[devout oyster]

yes

[gaunt dragon]

Nice I wish I did

[devout oyster]

yea i should have gone joker over queen but idrc theyre both good

[sweet vortex]

Can anyone help me wi th this level

[umbral whale]

stuck for a long long time

[devout oyster]

im on the same one idk how to do it

[onyx delta]

I am stuck at this stage. Should I change my lineup and who should I focus on leveling up next?

[sand parcel]

got it with a 9f nemora, it definitely was cancerous, still took like 100 retries lol

[stiff coyote]

Need help 😭

[fair kayak]

Ideas?

[velvet mountain]

how do i beat this

[pallid nymph]

So i get Ainz cuz was stuck on Campaign and , mi ainz didn t do shit bro :)))

Any advice ?

[pale kettle]

Anyone got some help for me ?

[gritty kite]

1 to 5, Daimon, Brutus, Rowan, Oden, Tasi.

[pale kettle]

Kk I will try thx

[warm yew]

nice box

[gritty kite]

Daimon is a high rng hero, meaning out of 50 battles, 1 can be victorious, but the rest of failure test could be seen as devastating lose.

If the outcome of the formation isn't optimal, try to switch oden with lyca/eironn.

[pale kettle]

Ok ty

[warm yew]

My latest ss from that chapter was 58 but i think i used same heroes or swapped out ainz but it was pretty simple

@gritty kite would it be a bad idea for him to swap scroll his shem with luc? Just curious

@pale kettle btw, stop making L heroes without copies for L+, its a waste of fodder

[pale kettle]

Ty I am already working on that

[gritty kite]

I don't think swap scroll can be used to celestial/hypo

[warm yew]

Here, https://afkhelper.nax.is/

Is a good site to see other people's formations on stages, it helped me a lot

[pale kettle]

Kk thx

[warm yew]

Oh damn, that sucks then

[gritty kite]

This is nice. But there's a minor disadvantage of using this too much.

By repeating battles, analyzing what's necessary to win, you familiarize each heroes nature against certain enemies.

Easy example is when you face athalia in early game, you tend to put brutus.

If you try out yourself, you also simultaneously train your sense in building team comp and synergy. But, for sure, the link is still useful, so feel free to utilize it.

[warm yew]

I only started using it after ch24 and a bit through 25-26, It's not that helpful to me since my deficit is way higher than most of the people posting on that site so gotta rely on myself a bit more, but yeah I agree, but the enemies dont differ that much until early late game multis, but other than that, you should be familiar with all the enemies for a long time eitherway

[gritty kite]

Nice then 🍺😊

[warm maple]

Any help?

[karmic shore]

daimon thoran ferael mishka lyca

[warm maple]

Doesn't work Silvina jumps on Daimon and kills him instantly @karmic shore

I'm gonna keep trying as it's working better then other comps I've used

[karmic shore]

daimon thoran frontline, mishka ferael lyca in the back. if frontlines die quickly try putting silas back middle

[warm maple]

Thank you finally beat it after like 30+ tries

[karmic shore]

no problemo

[grizzled terrace]

I feel like im getting to that point where I need to commit to characters. I keep finding conflicting stuff online. What should my line up be?

[karmic shore]

it's too early for you to commit to a whole line up since you don't have a lot of heroes. Just wait until you get a bit more characters then focus on building a line up with 3 or more heroes from the same faction so you get the faction bonus

[pale kettle]

Tldr wukong 100

[pale kettle]

Which point btw ? If you mean you're stuck in ch. 6 it's best advise to lvl Wu to 100
Your E+ Mirael 120 afterwards
Crystal: skriath out, Ferael in

[torpid lance]

anything I'm doing wrong here? multiple people on afk helper using this exact comp but it's just not working for me

[pale kettle]

Raku full T2 ?

Rowan as well ?

[torpid lance]

Wep and boots are T3, rest is T2. Grezhul full T3, Rowan full T2 apart from hat

[slim warren]

I need to somehow controll all the 3 Mages while escaping estralida stunning my daimom. Any ideas? Also a general campaign quastion, how to deal with a powerful background.

[pale kettle]

Swap tasi and Nara

[slim warren]

Cuz isa is biggest threat

[pale kettle]

Mhm

[slim warren]

When she ults its probably gg

[pale kettle]

If you want replace tasi for oden to hopefully reset her

[slim warren]

He wont get to ult

[pale kettle]

Call artifact

[slim warren]

Even so

Mirael and middle dude reck my back line.

[pale kettle]

Alr

[slim warren]

Maybe I just need more levels.

[zinc elm]

Dm me a lineup cause I’m going to sleep

[warm maple]

Stuck on same one andi can't beat it have you beat it yet?

[vagrant ibex]

Used arden or nara

[visual umbra]

I have a question
How do I ask what to do with the heroes of the faction thugs and who
If discord decided it didn't apply to this game?

[ebon hazel]

So who'd be more important to merc, Ezio or Nemora?

[heady panther]

any changes I should make to my overall formation?

[ebon hazel]

Is this PvE?
Drop Lucius for Brutus, Fawkes for Eironn And Rosa for Tasi

[sick oasis]

Who to put in my crystal??

[south pilot]

lineup for this stage?

[eternal falcon]

thoran, daimon, silvina, grezhul, mishka/mirael

[royal stag]

Ferael

[slim warren]

No, Still stuck. Will you tell me if you beat it? I will.

[devout oyster]

which one

[warm maple]

Ya I've been stuck on it for awhile and it's mainly Isabella

She gets her ability and my daimon dies instantly he has 350k hp too:/

[devout oyster]

alr which one are you on

[warm maple]

Chapt 17 stage 7

[devout oyster]

ss it

[warm maple]

Closest I get too beating it

[devout oyster]

nara should be pulling isa

[warm maple]

I tried swapping Nara and daimon but Grez kills Nara before she can pull

I get Isa to lik 1 hp and then she ults and kills Daimon

[devout oyster]

try daimon, thoran, lyca, rowan, nara

[heady panther]

im getting the new dimensional really soon, would he be helpful to add?

[ebon hazel]

Don't know

[heady panther]

ok

[slim warren]

I got closer with that.
Tasi

brutus
Bunny girl on some kind of horse
daimon
Nara

[warm maple]

I instantly lost mireal got her ult and killed daimon and Grez instant killed Nara

[slim warren]

Point is to pull isa while tasi banishes mirael, and hopefully tasi whould ult to sleep to give daimon time to ult second time and hopefully kill some stuff.
Tasi never ulted, grezhul shielded isa, and that horse knight girl cc'd my daimon to death.

[elfin cloak]

use lyca for haste

[slim warren]

Yeah lyca is that bunny girl on weird horse

[devout oyster]

yea even if lyca dies instantly she does what she needs to in the first second

[elfin cloak]

isnt lyca on a doe lol

[devout oyster]

maybe

[slim warren]

The haste and energy for tasi and daimon is what I seek. But even with lyce and duras call on tasi she whould die to early

[devout oyster]

ss the rest of what u have

[slim warren]

Dident k ow the name of the animal, so called it weird horse/ steed whatever.

[pale kettle]

Any idea how to get this to work can't seem to manage my way around it call is 4* waiting for events to 5*

[elfin cloak]

lololol

[devout oyster]

ss the rest of what you have

[devout oyster]

albedo, arthur, ainz, rowan, merlin

no idea how it'll work but gl

[pale kettle]

I use those for other teams

[devout oyster]

ohh ok

u have a mercenary saurus can u use that?

[pale kettle]

Yes

[royal stag]

U can try AAA, Lucretia 5 pull, Alna GB and Mehira, Raku and Rowan

Not in that order

[sick lotus]

any way to beat this without merc?

[devout oyster]

if you build farel and thoran ur acc is gonna sky rocket

like ur on 29-54 i'm on 29-60 and look

[warm maple]

I need 2 more copies for Thoran to be ascended tier

[dull flame]

A better skriath and Luc will help too

[devout oyster]

i still can't do 29-60

[pale kettle]

na m8. give up

[dull flame]

Just merc a daimon, I did this pre all the nerfs back in Nov. 2020 at your level

[sick lotus]

sigh gotta wait 3 days then

[devout oyster]

i cant use a merc for 4 days bro

[dull flame]

Then wait

[pale kettle]

sigh what can we do

[dull flame]

Macro

[royal stag]

Ur gazing with diamonds?

[dull flame]

The legendarys hurt

[devout oyster]

yea

i did like 80 summons yesterday probably more

[royal stag]

Way to early and ur wasting fodder when ur making L+ heros

[devout oyster]

fodder and 2 more copies of most of them and they'll all be mythic at least

[devout oyster]

yea ik i kinda just early game upgraded everything and didn't use it after

[royal stag]

At chapter 31-4 ur hitting multi fights

[devout oyster]

yea i think rn 29-60 is my home until i get a merc or upgrade daimon

[dull flame]

That's the point. Your not at the place to need so many built heroes

[devout oyster]

for real

[dull flame]

2 strong teams is more than enough

[royal stag]

Exactly

[drowsy gazelle]

i mean youre even gazing talene i suppose? which is not really used that much nowadays

[royal stag]

Use Daimon and Ainz as carrys

[devout oyster]

i have ainz for 30 more days

[dull flame]

Luc when she gets built will be op 3rd team

[royal stag]

And gaze Lucretia only with cards

[devout oyster]

2 from regular summons but yea i used most cards on it

[devout oyster]

i wanna do ezizh

[drowsy gazelle]

if youre playing for fun, i say go for it. but if u want progression lucretia is best choice

[devout oyster]

yea but god comp

[royal stag]

U can get him from chall store so no need to gaze him

[drowsy gazelle]

thats a comp i havent heard for so long

[dull flame]

It's ded

[drowsy gazelle]

yup

[dull flame]

Ainz rules supreme in both pvp and pve

[vagrant ibex]

You can also gaze with dias ... cuz i do dat on my 2nd acc and the progress seems gud

[devout oyster]

i don't actually have ainz it's a garrisoned

[dull flame]

You can garrison more than once

[devout oyster]

yea ik

isn't it like once i do 6 times i just have it?

[drowsy gazelle]

u still nid garrison but free

[dull flame]

Yeah. So what's the problem?

[devout oyster]

no problem i will get ainz and just beat everything ig

[sick lotus]

also, what did u use ur red chests on?

[devout oyster]

i honestly have no idea

[royal stag]

There is no +30

[sick lotus]

afaik save them for albedo first then ainz

[royal stag]

@devout oyster look at my account lvl

[dull flame]

Here's mine

[devout oyster]

i forgot i used a bunch on thoran he's at +26

[devout oyster]

i used to log in and collect stuff but never actually play the game so i'm a high level

[royal stag]

Im just saying ur account could be much better

[dull flame]

It's like the least needed right now unless you tryhard

[vagrant ibex]

Is not about lvl lol all you need is to get core heroes to beat campaign cuz you wont get champions title without spent a bunch of $

Im 272 and still at ch38 :(

[devout oyster]

if i played when i logged in a while ago yea ik

[devout oyster]

thoran cheese 😈

[dull flame]

Exactly, but you don't have the other units for it lmao

[vagrant ibex]

Raku cupcake

[devout oyster]

i do have daimon

which is very nice once i upgrade sit item

and get furniture

[pale kettle]

Could u show me a SS of the comp pls?

[maiden marsh]

Pippa doesn't go middle back in thoran cheese, and there's absolutely no reason to merc an ezizh unless you don't have an E ezizh.

[pale kettle]

I got a L ezih just Merced to see if I manage that way only

[fair kayak]

Thoughts?

[whole smelt]

Could someone help me with a team im stuck on chapter 14

[royal stag]

Post ur Team

[whole smelt]

Uh ok

[devout oyster]

shemira, grez, rowan, daimon, maybe oden if not wukong

[whole smelt]

Wrong one oops

[devout oyster]

actually eironn could work as well

[whole smelt]

So who should I replace for eirron?

[royal stag]

Like this plz

[whole smelt]

Oh

There. I’m horrible at the game so making teams is not that easy for me

[devout oyster]

same!

[royal stag]

How many Daimon copies ?

[whole smelt]

0

[devout oyster]

upgrade ur grez tho 100% and daimon

as much as you can upgrade daimon and get the +20

[whole smelt]

I haven’t gotten a daimon copy since chapter 6

I need one estrilda copy for ascended estrilda tho

[royal stag]

U have atleast 2 coz hes L

[whole smelt]

Yea ik

Game doesn’t give me enough elites

[royal stag]

Any hero chests ?

[whole smelt]

Nope

I need 4 elite stones for another elite

But shop doesn’t have any rn;-;

[short badge]

Push tower if you can. Stones in store is RNG, I have seen it three times over 3 weeks

[whole smelt]

I am at the highest I can get in tower rn can’t beat the stage I’m on

[whole smelt]

Like this?

[devout oyster]

pm yea

ur rowan and daimon can switch it's just ur stuff that makes a good team isn't upgraded much yet

[whole smelt]

Yea

[stiff coyote]

Help pls

[storm wraith]

I pulled some better heroes now, including daimon, silas and etc. What should be my lineup now? Should I replace nemora for my silas and use daimon as the tank behind rowan?

[eternal falcon]

with what

[stiff coyote]

Pics won’t load

[devout oyster]

build lucretia as much as you can

[storm wraith]

Yea putting everything i can buy for her lol

[eternal falcon]

shamira daimon ferael thoran rowan?

[storm wraith]

really need advice on lineups based on my current heroes tho

[stiff coyote]

I’ll try ty

[dense herald]

Which 5 to use? Before i waste resources leveling randomly

Please? Atleast name 1 of them who will stay till mid- end game so i get him to lvl 100 first

[tight juniper]

In #classic-questions ofc

[pale kettle]

can anyone help me

[stiff coyote]

@eternal falcon thank you 🙏🏾

[pearl night]

Ayo im stuck here, any advice ?

[safe meadow]

i would say , put eironn middle , siwtch with nemora , then siwtch peggy / rowan @pale kettle

[devout oyster]

nvm i did it second try

[eternal falcon]

no problemo

[vestal grail]

Rowan use for sure

Maybe Hendrick and thoran front daimon back and Silas is better early game but like once u get furniture nemora

[sudden tiger]

Any ways I can get unstuck?

[visual basalt]

Ooh, I am a newbie, and I have no expirience to upgrade my characters, maybe some changes in the build will make me stronger? (Sorry if there is mistakes in the text, I am Russian)

It is my build noww

[short badge]

By reading guides and making Daimon's SI +20

[karmic shore]

that's pretty good for now, you can wait till you get more characters

[visual basalt]

I see, thanks

[warm maple]

Have you beat stage 7 yet?

[slim warren]

Bo

No*

[warm maple]

This is annoying

[midnight cave]

everyone dies and I just don't have dmg anymore since I really only have 3 drafts RN

[gaunt dragon]

Help

[visual umbra]

Can you help?

[midnight cave]

nvm got it with
Drez
Lucius
Skriath
Estrilda
Talene

[eternal badger]

Should I use a mythic swap for shemira and who would it be ?

[worldly apex]

no, dont use it

[slender kayak]

Stuck on 31-49. Any thoughts?

[midnight cave]

I'm no pro but I'd try
Ainz
Albedo
Thoran
Saurius
Merlin

idk what heros are linked to who tho

[slim warren]

@warm maple
Did it

[hot narwhal]

Ребят, скажите как водить коды?(

И где их брать

[slim warren]

Oden

brutus
Mishka
daimon
Nara

[hot narwhal]

Спс

Ничего не понял, но спс

[gaunt dragon]

Haha me too

[south pilot]

lineup? :((

[slender kayak]

Oden isn’t in my list

[slim warren]

Why are you replying to me? I tagged someone cuz I intended my message to them.

[slender kayak]

Sorry, thought you were replying to my request for assistance.

[pearl night]

Any tips ?

[warm maple]

Ahhh tell me please dms

[slim warren]

Oden

brutus
Mishka
daimon
Nara

Lol you have the exact same stage later lol...@warm maple

[warm maple]

Tysm lmao

[gaunt dragon]

@slender kayak I’m coming close with this line up

[warm maple]

Howe I can't beat it 😭

[slim warren]

Took me a couple of tries. Whats your daimon level artifact and sig item? What other units level and artifacts

[gaunt dragon]

I’m consistently getting just saveas and warek Alive

[warm maple]

Daimon has dura call enhanced once a lvl 180 with 350k hpand sig item is lvl 16

[slim warren]

I have duras grace with sig lvl 9

[warm maple]

Hmm ok

UUUHH I BEAT IT

I put Thoran instead of mishka and tasi fot Ferael

[pale kettle]

Tasi is now worse than mehira

[gaunt dragon]

This keeps happening. Grez v saveas and saveas just becomes invincible

[junior laurel]

Any recommendations for a team rn?
My current team is Brutus and Lucius in the frontline, Shamira, Rosalia, and Rowan in the back line. I’m just starting chapter 16 rn

[warm maple]

Did u beat stage 20?

[pale kettle]

Heads up shemira and lucius fall off really hard

[junior laurel]

I feel it already

[pale kettle]

Shouldn’t be shemira falls off 22

[junior laurel]

My gear just isn't leveled all that far

[karmic shore]

for now try to use the strongest comp you can but make sure you have at least 3 heroes from the same faction, for that lil faction boost

[pale kettle]

Aso get Rowan to 30 so as fast as possible

[junior laurel]

just adjusting to using the red tier gear

[pale kettle]

@karmic shore would you mind helping a poor soul who can’t come up w/ teams to save their life?

[karmic shore]

i can try

[pale kettle]

Nice

Trying the raku mehira comp but failing hard

[junior laurel]

30 of his signature item ya?

[karmic shore]

i don't use either

[karmic shore]

yes

[pale kettle]

Mhm

This

So good

[karmic shore]

rowan = win

[junior laurel]

spicy

[slim warren]

Yeah I did

[warm maple]

What was your comp? Same thing?

[pale kettle]

Want me to send the stage again?

[gaunt dragon]

@slender kayak this worked for me

[warm maple]

Idk how those comps work for you my daimon gets thrown around by ogi and Brutus 7 seconds doesn't do anything he dies instantly

[slim warren]

Retry a little bit. Prob rng is a factor.

[slender kayak]

@gaunt dragon thanks! I’ll give it a shot.

[vestal grail]

Stuck on this level hard, anything I can do here?

[short badge]

@warm maple @slim warren I am exactly where you guys are, Isabella is pure pain

[warm maple]

Facts

I try using Nara but gets clapped by Silvina

[fiery wing]

prio ur rowan Si30 ASAP then try to nara the belinda

[fiery wing]

is that boss stage?

[lavish valley]

Hey I'm stuck on 7-16 atm, been looking around for teams and stuff wukong was starting to feel weak so I've tried a few different heros and a lot of ones I've found recommended I haven't gotten yet, any ideas?

[devout oyster]

ss the stage

[devout oyster]

ur shemira and grez def need to be higher lvl

[maiden marsh]

Daimon carry is fine here

Drop saurus for a support like lorsan or arden

[lavish valley]

only problem is I don't have more daimon copies to ascend more

also don't have either of those I haven't been very lucky

[devout oyster]

and then id go saurus, grez, daimon, lyca and arden

[maiden marsh]

And thus you will transition to mirael carry as per any earlygame guide

[devout oyster]

fuck shemira i forgot she sucks now

ur daimon is gonna be really good once it has a +20 sig at mythic

[lavish valley]

I thought that was what I was supposed to do but I figured I'd ask

Who else would you recommend go with mirael?

[devout oyster]

lyca 100%

[maiden marsh]

Plenty of good supports are highlighted in the pinned guides

[lavish valley]

ah, I'm new to server I haven't checked pins yet, thanks for the help

[devout oyster]

@maiden marsh im gonna send an ss

[maiden marsh]

Specifically the ones in #classic-questions have just about everything you'll need earlygame.

[gaunt dragon]

If you have fae he counters Isabella well

Keeps her from ulting

[warm maple]

Ferael?

Silvina instantly kills him so that don't help him

[slim warren]

Lets prefom an alliance XD

[short badge]

Yeah, make a group bro

[slim warren]

Hmm. You want?

[devout oyster]

isabella is nuts early and a good amount of mid game

[warm maple]

@short badge Accept friend request

[inland light]

Who do i focus here

[pale kettle]

Yes

[fiery wing]

add me we have simillar comps maybe it will help you

[pale kettle]

UID?

[cursive cloak]

Pls help

[pale kettle]

You have tree yiu should win (joke btw)

[cursive cloak]

@pale kettle lol

I need elp

[fiery wing]

hold on

[midnight bronze]

The Eironn with Lyca is super annoying, too much haste

[maiden marsh]

Rather mean to just feed daimon to eironn like that

Try putting daimon and rowan behind arthur, with thoran and lyca the sacrifices for eironn

[midnight bronze]

He doesn’t even die, Tasi is a nice fairy and banishes him

[maiden marsh]

Well that's an issue in and of itself

Try arthur thoran daimon ferael (no weapon equipped) lyca

[midnight bronze]

Thoran loving this Baden, keeps occasionally one shotting half the team but Baden and eironn clean up

[lament crystal]

Hi I’m having trouble clearing 7-28 could anyone help with line up pleae ;-; Thanks in adv

[west skiff]

How to pass this bs...that maid just strange up killing my team or I will tell Lilith to fix her

[rigid imp]

yes that's normal
you will need to kill other heroes asap so that gatling maid won't burst down your team

[west skiff]

Also...any help for a team

[grave ruin]

Who should I use for this area? Or in general? I’ve read some of the guides and they haven’t really helped currently can get whole team to level 80 except one

Brutus just tanks and kills my champs and on the rare chance I kill him I’m left with one champ that gets killed by saveas

Sorry *golus

[fiery wing]

help here thanks

[rigid imp]

merc izold, my friend did this without izold but his daimon is already full t3 and 30 sig

[fiery wing]

meeeh

[limber mortar]

Stuck at chapter 12 and prob will be on 13 too, top row is my lineup rn, what do I do?

[rigid imp]

erm, read the beginner guide to avoid that newbie trap 140 cap ?

[limber mortar]

?

@rigid imp what beginner guide

[rigid imp]

read the infographic pins in #classic-questions

[limber mortar]

i just cant get enough luck to summon someone i need

k\

this one?

[rigid imp]

yup that one, read the before 160 section, it should tell you what to do next

[limber mortar]

Kk thanks (:

yeah im confused

so I use the 5 heroes on top? the 3 star ones?

[short badge]

The 3 skilled ones, yes. They only have 3 skills so most refer to them as 3 skills.

Two LBs because there's 4 LB fodders so you naturally end up with more (not really the case anymore I think with all the faction scrolls we get)

[limber mortar]

wat

[short badge]

And it doesn't really matter who you use besides Mirael, Silvina and Arden, they're the most useful ones.

[limber mortar]

ok im sorry i just got back into this game and im stupid so bear with me

ok so level those guys up and use them to get past chapter 12 and 13

[short badge]

There's heroes with 4 skills and heroes with 3 skills.

Heroes with 4 skills can fully ascend and beyond.

3 skilled heroes can only get to legendary plus which is hardcapped at level 160.

[limber mortar]

alr

[short badge]

3 skilled heroes are fodder because they're capped (and obv only has 3 skills).

You wanna focus on them early game because you don't have copies enough to ascend anyone else anyway, unless you have a bit of luck.

AND you need two legendary plus copies to make a hero go from L+ to Ascended, so you will need them anyway at one point, that's why you focus on them

[limber mortar]

ok so level up the 3 skill heroes and the other 2 on the guide, then once i have more copies I use those guys to feed my better people?

yeah alright sounds good, thanks! should i just reset my people that i have rn?

[short badge]

Once you reach level 160 with all 5, then you start to fodder them, not before.

Yes, reset them if you haven't leveled up 5 fodders

[limber mortar]

ok sounds good, ill let you know if I need more help, but I should be good for awhile. Thanks (:

[short badge]

It's all about the levels.

In a bad situation, you could end up at level 120 with 3 copies at most of a hero, which means you can't ascend them to L+ (need 4 copies).
This means you're hardcapped at level 120 because E+ (elite plus) is capped at 120.
Legendary plus is capped at level 160.
This is one of the big reasons you level up fodder because RC (resonating crystal) bypasses level caps.
Once level 160, you're hardcapped again and fodders can't go beyond L+ so that's where you start to ascend 4 skilled heroes to M (mythic) and beyond

[short badge]

Bet, good luck!

[limber mortar]

thanks man!

i cant even get one hero to 160 😂

[short badge]

We're in the wrong thread btw, ask me in #classic-questions next time if it's not about lineup hehe

And yeah it takes time, I am close to 5 160s after 22 days

[grave ruin]

Is anyone gonna help me? I posted and never got a response

[limber mortar]

sry XD

[ebon hazel]

Get used to it, people dont really like this channel as much

[short badge]

You should actually read everything I have written because you're the proof of doing the exact opposite of what I have just told the other guy.

Your best bet is to make Daimon L+, and get him to 160 ASAP, maybe even reset the rest and level them to 120

[ebon hazel]

Make sure to read the guide in the pins of #classic-questions and get yourself a good wishlist and level fodders, Dae314 has a good begginer guide too that explains how you should level people.
For this particular fight just use a standard
Wukong Golus Daimon Mirael Arden

[grave ruin]

Thanks SIL

Btw not my main server but is my most progressed one but it’s one no one plays on anymore since it’s a early server. What should I do for my campaign clearing team?

I know I wasn’t suppose to do legendary it’s a mistake I did before I joined the discord

[cerulean nimbus]

Nvm we chilling

[clear lark]

don’t know which supp is better

[dull flame]

check the winning formation of that stage, the one with the lowest power

[short badge]

First time meeting Ferael, how do people counter?

[amber rapids]

You might need to change Rowan for arden and hope to cc ferael. Your team looks fine though

[river lintel]

Try this

[rigid imp]

you either ferael him (or any kind of cc that target him) or just let him there and try to kill other asap

[river lintel]

Switch Nara and Rowan and switch Daimon and Brutus

[short badge]

Thanks everyone, appreciated

[pale kettle]

Athalia again

[pale kettle]

I’ve tried so many times idk what to do

[rigid imp]

wait and pump your mirael to 160 then try again

[pale kettle]

@rigid imp what ch r u on btw just wondering

[rigid imp]

only 30, i've stop pushing when i reach 30

[high marlin]

Why

[pale kettle]

I’m trying to get to 30

[rigid imp]

my heroes don't have enough gear, some stage give me mythic because i have to use merc hero to complete it so i don't care about that much anyway

[pale kettle]

Anything you recommend for my stage?

[rigid imp]

ferael

brutus
daimon
thoran
rowan
this is the team that i used iirc, my rowan have 5* t2 factional boots, 5* t1 factional weapon and call so he can tank for a while (he used ult once i think)

[pale kettle]

My Rowan does have that lol

Most of his gear is odens

[rigid imp]

well he need the boots more,5* t2 boots give him like ~300 dodge

[pearl night]

Need some help

[warm maple]

Any suggestions?

[junior laurel]

So I’m at chapter 15, is Rowan’s regular equipment or Brutus’ better to invest into?

[maiden marsh]

Rowan needs the gear 100x more

[silk burrow]

defo rowan

[rugged cairn]

So how does one do some thoran cheesing

[silk burrow]

you need eironn and skriath at 3f

[tight juniper]

Getting Pippa to +20 is helpful for cheesing especially for people who don't have 5* call. You can use Lorsan (e is fine, just there to link damage) and use Kelthur or Flora to kill 1 HP heroes. Since you're not fighting multis, Rowan is an awesome addition Since you don't have Pippa you can use Lyca for energy. Maybe position like Rowan, Lyca, Thoran, Lorsan, Kelthur/Flora.

[short badge]

Isabella ruins my life

[west skiff]

any help 😫

[vagrant ibex]

Swap brutus and daimon position
If ardem doesnt work tey ro replace to other cc

Daimon brutus
Estrilda ferael lyca

@west skiff

[short badge]

Thanks my guy

[dense herald]

This is my team. Who should i replace oden with?

[odd musk]

I need some help on this one

[short badge]

@dense herald click on my reply, read it from there and downwards

[pale kettle]

is that the new dude trial?

mishka

[pale kettle]

That’s what I did

[short badge]

Can you post all 5 if you have completed them?

[odd musk]

I'll give this a shot

Awe man I got destroyed 😥

[warm sierra]

Can anyone help

[winter marsh]

Izold supremacy

[worldly apex]

do you need help or are you flexing

[plucky laurel]

Help please (not ainz comp for this battle)

[worldly apex]

brutus eironn lucr lyca and maybe an instant cc might work for r1

pretty weak box for ch32 honestly

[plucky laurel]

Ainz comp carries

The only problem I have is that I can't 5 pull

If I could i'd be much higher since everything will be much easier

[worldly apex]

if you could 5pull youd just get stuck in ch33 because your team 3 is very weak

[plucky laurel]

Maybe

But isn't it like the first team 2's?

Very easy to beat?

[worldly apex]

initially

[plucky laurel]

K

[velvet mountain]

need help on this level

[analog osprey]

what is "5 pull" ?

[winter marsh]

Eironn + 3f skirath

[worldly apex]

a core consisting of eironn in slot 4 and a skriath with 3f, this pulls all 5 enemies into your team

[winter marsh]

Skriath regroup the backline and eironn's pull take them all on your side and if you use safiya they're forced in the pyramid

[plucky laurel]

And if you have lucretia then its easy to beat

Main counter is teleporting heroes

[merry depot]

Today I will get last 15 pieces for Arthur. Can someone please suggest me a good Ainz team

[worldly apex]

wouldnt even use ainz at your stage, wait before investing in that comp imo

[winter marsh]

His ainz is 30 though

[merry depot]

My Ainz is 30 sig 6/9 furniture and 53 engraving. I almost use him everywhere

So at what stage should I try Ainz comp?

[warm sierra]

I need help

[cursive cloak]

I need elp pls

[visual basalt]

Okaaay, today I summoned her, is she a good healer? Can I change her with somebody?

Okaaay, today I summoned her, is she a good healer? Can I change her with somebody?

[warm sierra]

Isabelle

[visual basalt]

Thanks

[opaque drift]

Used AFK helper and stuff, tried a lot times but still cant do it. (i dont put daimon in front but was just copying from afkhelper)

[cursive cloak]

Who should I si 30?

[rigid imp]

did you remove ferael's weapon and give him dura's eye ?

and don't use lyca too, replace with oden or nemora

i would use this actually
rowan

thoran
daimon
brutus
ferael (remove weapon and give eye too)

[opaque drift]

yup thats how he has been always, never had a weapon on him. but i just won thanks for help :D

[hollow sand]

Guys im struggling with finding a good tank im with Brutus now but at 10-25 he dies too damn fast i have a spot in the orb so any suggestions?

[hollow sand]

Naah bruv no one helps here. They will tell you to watch a guide or smt

[pale kettle]

Have you tried reading guides ?

[hollow sand]

Yeah i did but the guides are general

[pale kettle]

Good
Follow general guides

[hollow sand]

And most of the questions people asks are something specific so its not that easy to have a guide help you thru a certain stage

[pale kettle]

Start new account and don't do same mistakes

[hollow sand]

Thats the easy way and its a stupid one you can fix mistakes in this game pretty easly

[pale kettle]

Ok
You have a lot of experience I see. Apparently I can't help you
Looking forwad to future guides from ya

[short badge]

You've made unsaveable mistakes. You think you don't. But in just a month you will look at that Thane with disavow.

[hollow sand]

Thane is shit at my stage of the game

[hollow sand]

No im not that good i simply say what i see people dont help here thats all

[short badge]

Exactly, and you lost two E+ copies during the process

[hollow sand]

Ya i had another idea of him but i changed to underlords

[short badge]

But to answer your question, Brutus doesn't really work before 141, try Lucius or Thoran

[humble zodiac]

call on daimon, barricade on brutus

[hollow sand]

Yeah that sounds like an answer

[hollow sand]

I dont have Damion i want him sooooo bad

[pale kettle]

Shem 160, 4 others 120
You need no tank. You need 1 overleveled carry

[short badge]

You also wanna level your tank 2nd highest, i.e.
Carry 160
Tank 140
Flex 120
Flex 120
Flex 120

Or as Xeno says, carry 160 and everyone else 120

[pale kettle]

Most early game players get stuck bc they're too stupid to level efficient

[hollow sand]

O shot i didnt know that

Well now is starting to make sense

[short badge]

I don't know what's best between Eironn and Shem, someone else has to be the judge of that

[hollow sand]

So i shoud use only one of them

[short badge]

Not really but only 1 of them should be leveled, yes, rest in RC and 4 fodders leveled

[opaque drift]

already defeated it :D, and thats what i have

[hollow sand]

So in general i have to reset all the guys and level them as @pale kettle says

[pale kettle]

Crystal spots: rosaline, izold, lucius out
Mortas in for sure
Screenshot GB box only pls

[hollow sand]

Screen what?

[formal blaze]

Click on Heroes then tap the Graveborn button, screenshot that

[pale kettle]

1x 160 4x 120

[pale kettle]

Everyone else who's viable crystal spots

You need Ferael... Desira and Oden

Your tavern wishlist.
You copied it from #classic-questions beginner guide correct ? Bc I bet you're smart @hollow sand

[hollow sand]

Yeah i did that

[hollow sand]

So on the next days ill do that

[pale kettle]

Mortas, Hodgekin can have crystal spots
Morael too.
Tasi, lyca, Ferael, Desira missing

[hollow sand]

Thank you so much now thats an answer i needed

I hope you have a great day

[pale kettle]

Thx 👍

[grave ruin]

Champions from old server I still use even though no one else plays on it since it’s old but who should I use on my team for purely campaign clearing? And I’m actually asking for a team please not just someone telling me to look at the guides again.

[frosty imp]

Stuck here for some time need hel0

[sturdy axle]

How should I set up an arena team?

[karmic shore]

put rosaline next to lucius and make her follow Belinda

[karmic shore]

daimon saurus desira shemira nemora

[sturdy axle]

Oh thx ☺️

[karmic shore]

[clear bough]

can someone help me creating a lineup

[vagrant ibex]

If you mean for pvp the
Thoran rosa
Daimon gwynt lyca
spam pulling on graveborn since you have both tank and dd
Having daimon thoran grez fera is checkpoint

[hollow sand]

@pale kettle so the lineup is?

@pale kettle just a quick recap so i can focus on it the next few days

[pale kettle]

Read the beginner guide and tree3's guide if you're bored
Try out comps with the heroes you have ^^

[hollow sand]

Alright

[pale kettle]

Hello! It’s me again but suffering w/ mehira

[karmic shore]

ainz merlin raku mishka rowan/eironn middle

[pale kettle]

Pull Mehira with your Nara. Common approach
Try out different teams

[high storm]

What would be the better comp for daimon?

[grave ruin]

Champions from old server I still use even though no one else plays on it since it’s old but who should I use on my team for purely campaign clearing? And I’m actually asking for a team please not just someone telling me to look at the guides again.

[split prairie]

what? fuck now lol

[pale kettle]

Yeah but I’m getting destroyed in 5 seconds no matter what I do

[karmic shore]

daimon ferael rowan Belinda lucius for now?

[blissful jewel]

Can someone pls help me? I just started 2 days agoo. What heroes should i lvl upp and wich should i go with my main 5?

[pale kettle]

Read the pin guides in #classic-questions

[karmic shore]

just use what you can for now until you get more heroes

[pearl night]

Any suggestion ?

[minor tulip]

My current team and my wishlist, should I adjust it any?

[royal stag]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[royal stag]

Are u gazing with diamonds?

[pearl night]

Nah, should i ?

[royal stag]

No way to early

[eternal badger]

Is it worth getting Rowan 30 or no

[royal stag]

100% yes

[eternal badger]

Rn I’m chapter 25 only have her 1 star does that make a difference

[royal stag]

Ur talking abou engraving or si ?

[eternal badger]

30 si should I engrave too??

[royal stag]

+30 si yes, engraving no

[eternal badger]

Ok thanks

[rose tundra]

Can i get some help with this

[pale kettle]

Advices?

[rigid imp]

i would do this
daimon

rowan
eironn
brutus
tasi

[royal stag]

Post ur hero box

[karmic shore]

lyca

mishka
eironn
saurus
tasi

[zealous iron]

Need 2 teams

[rose tundra]

My Hero choice resets tmr or the day after and then imma stargaze btw

[zealous iron]

I’ve been doing ainz in first team, daimon in second but not sure who I should be having to accompany them

[royal stag]

U dont have a 3rd carry

[rose tundra]

Currently working on it i have 8/8 raku just gotta ascend him

Also i got instantly wiped on 3rd fight

[pale kettle]

Works like a charm thank u

[karmic shore]

no problemo

[karmic shore]

1- ainz albedo rowan rosaline Belinda
2- shemira daimon ferael thoran desira

[wet meadow]

Anyone on to help with a line up

[icy cobalt]

@wet meadow what chapter and stage

[wet meadow]

32-60

[icy cobalt]

What ppl u got

[wet meadow]

There

[icy cobalt]

You have no deficit but if you could show all you characters maybe I could give you a suggestion for the second team

Also izold is useless without at least 3/9 f

[wet meadow]

Ok

[icy cobalt]

What mythic and ascended hero’s you got

[wet meadow]

They are on the first image

[icy cobalt]

Hold on a sec

[wet meadow]

Ok

[icy cobalt]

If you have albedo you can try something like this for the first team

[wet meadow]

Hmmm nvm

I did it somehow

[icy cobalt]

I’m on 33-12 with your crystal level you should be at least on chapter 35 lol

Or mid chapter 34

[wet meadow]

Ik I just need better characters

[icy cobalt]

If you don’t have albedo you should go to the garrisoned in the friends list and get her

[pearl night]

Any tips ?

[karmic shore]

that's tuff

thoran

Arthur
rowan
rosaline
daimon

@pearl night

[devout oyster]

nvm i did it

[outer quiver]

How should i order my teams to win?
(Notes: if i dont have a hero there i probably dont have it but still ask, my call is 4*, i could use a merc if needed i really want to finish the chapter)

[sick loom]

show box

[limber mortar]

Ill be taking your inventory now

[sick loom]

There are quite few comps that u could try in afk helper. Did you check them out ?

[sick loom]

Something like this, team 4 just put whatever you have left with lucretia.

[outer quiver]

there are a few characters there i do not have

[sick loom]

oh yea true, you don't have ferael nor oden

[outer quiver]

a few others too, my alna is also L+

[sick loom]

you can mercenary her

Also focus on getting some core 4f heroes (eironn, oden, ferael, skriath, rowan)

Indeed hard when you don't have those

[outer quiver]

where do i put lucretia on the 4th team so she doesnt get deleted?

[pale kettle]

depends on enemies

[sick loom]

without 5 pull, just try different positions and see which one works the best and hope for rng

[outer quiver]

got this far

only fight 2 i need to win, what do i change add, or thats just rng?

did the teams you sent (with slight adjustments to what i have, and ended up swapping 1 and 5)

[sick loom]

does thoran ult ?

[outer quiver]

most times he almost does, a few times he does only once and dies

[sick loom]

does he kill them ?

[outer quiver]

the one time he did one ult he killed 3, then he just died

[sick loom]

yeah just rng then, rosaline and cecilia they dodge quite often

[outer quiver]

also like i said, most times he cant ult

[sick loom]

try putting ezizh instead of flora or talene

[outer quiver]

i dont have that one

[hardy canopy]

Hello i'm in really early game but i would like to make the best team possible, any suggestions?

[sick loom]

did you try the comp with estrilda instead of flora

[outer quiver]

i cant use estrilda i use her as dim link cuz i only use her on tr nemora xD

[sick loom]

did the other fights take many tries ?

[outer quiver]

3rd and 5th did

best attempt yet, he killed everyone but flora on 2 ults, then flora deleted him xD

[sick loom]

what should happen is thoran killing 3 with 1 ult, talene/flora kills rowan and then thoran's 2nd ult killing flora

took me 100+ tries, with thoran ulting everytime

[outer quiver]

[pale kettle]

can anyone help me please

[night relic]

need some guidance

[pale kettle]

Tips?

[maiden marsh]

swap daimon and tasi so daimon isn't being stunned by estrilda

[night relic]

swap her where?

[maiden marsh]

with each other

and I was referring to the post above me

[night relic]

ooh

[sick loom]

try this:
daimon
thoran
rowan
brutus
ferael

[maiden marsh]

try rowan brutus lyca numisu daimon

[night relic]

kk

i’ll try both

[maiden marsh]

Try Arthur rowan merlin ainz nara

[night relic]

sadly still got murdered

i messed up this account a tad with my upgrades 😭

[gaunt dragon]

No luck
For some reason this team gets me the closest

[maiden marsh]

Is nara interrupting bats when you use her?

[gaunt dragon]

No she gets 1 shot

[maiden marsh]

Give her call and t1 5* boots if you can

[gaunt dragon]

Ok I’ll try

I can give her t3 grez boots

Or t2 GB boots whcih one

[gaunt dragon]

This worked

Thank you. Nara worked well

[mortal mural]

Been struggling. What team would you recommend? I’ve tried quite a few formations

[warm heart]

What can I use? 529

[south cliff]

How do i beat this level

[tulip dagger]

Try Lyca back, shem out, brutus in front of daimon

Oh or replace shem with nara, isa might be your proble

Brutus still in front of daimon tho

[south cliff]

Ok

[south cliff]

Whos nara

[tight juniper]

Hook girl

[south cliff]

I cant find nara?

So this?

[tight juniper]

Saveas is just going to kill Nara

[south cliff]

Yeah

I swapped nara with tasi and she got webbed

Completed it with mishka

[pale kettle]

Ik Nara the mehira but that’s it

[sullen lance]

How on earth do I beat this? It’s just nonstop CC. Daimon doesn’t work because he just gets stunlocked if he’s last, nara gets deleted in half a second, izold also gets deleted instantly, ferael does nothing…

[high marlin]

You dont have Silas built?

[sullen lance]

He's probably next, but graveborn has such a long list of units to build

What does silas even do?

[cloud forge]

support

[high marlin]

Also tbh that's not a lot of cc

[sullen lance]

It's enough to lock down any and all attempts to do damage

Daimon would solo the stage if he was ever able to ult

After the rest of the team dies, daimon just sits there for 15 seconds with full energy just getting stun chained

[high marlin]

Replace nara with Oden and shemira with Fereal

[sullen lance]

Thank you

[strong aurora]

Yeah I remember that fight. It was a pain for sure mehira just would tank damage solo for like 10 seconds at the end of every battle.

[outer quiver]

try to use nara on mehira

[high marlin]

Did it work

[sullen lance]

No, but whatever. I'll just get more levels, and when I finally just outlevel this stupid floor I'll probably climb 20 at once

[flint mica]

Suggestions for a more solid pvp team? I can post more of my heros if needed

Looking to replace rosa most likely

I have poor understanding of front row vs back

[sullen lance]

Backrow daimon, find another front tank, or lyca, get rid of izold and replace him with maybe ferael or tasi, and see how that works. The ultimate meta for pvp is ainzbedo, so get that going when you can

[sullen lance]

Front row gets attacked first unless a unit has an ability or passive that makes them attack the back for whatever reason. So you put tankier heroes in front. Daimon is not very tanky, he's more of a mage.

[flint mica]

I havent been playing long can I still even get them? Lyca is elite+ and I have brutus and lucian legendary, I like oden for the energy steal but you think fareal is better?

Tasi is legendary+

[sullen lance]

Ferael is good for preventing the opposing team from being able to ult. Lyca is fine at E+ because you just use her for the instant haste when the match starts, and it's fine if she dies immediately after. Brutus doesn't need ascensions because he is used for his immunity

Tasi is used for her banish mostly, so she just has to live long enough to banish then it's fine if she dies (which is usually not hard, since she is pretty hard to kill usually)

[mortal mural]

Been struggling, how should I beat this?

[flint mica]

So either
Damien
Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Fareal

Or
Daimon
Thoran
Rowan
Lyca
Tasi

Or combinations of those to see what works best?

[sullen lance]

Yeah those both sound solid, bottom is kinda glass cannony and may not be best for daimon, but try em both, and see whats better.

[flint mica]

Okay thank you

[mortal mural]

How should I beat this?

[maiden marsh]

@outer quiver merc a kelthur with 5* call equipped, then run <empty> thoran lorsan <empty> kelthur

[west fog]

no idea what to do with team 2 so I just put random shit in it. Is my ainz comp ok? or do I need arthur?

oh yeah what is the PVP comp with alna? it looks like alna GB but I'm only getting vague answers lol. Is it literally just AlnaGB with athalia?

[karmic elbow]

pls help

[gaunt dragon]

@maiden marsh sorry for ping but ur advice usually works

[karmic elbow]

ty I'll try it

[pale kettle]

Everyone has been telling me that AND NO IR DOESNT WORK

[gaunt dragon]

Use call and t2 boots

On Nara

[karmic elbow]

I get clapped sadly

[pale kettle]

Also I do that that too but no

[gaunt dragon]

You have to get kinda lucky

[karmic elbow]

yeah ima just keep trying for now

the Brutus hoes my lucretia

[pale kettle]

@gaunt dragon didn’t even have to use Nara

[gaunt dragon]

Never said you had to. I was just saying if you want her to work u have to use that

[gaunt dragon]

Use daimon

Eirron should be pulling Brutus

[cursive cloak]

Pls help me

[deep basin]

any ideas? kind of stuck here

[velvet mountain]

how do i beat this?

[deep basin]

brutus / lyca / mortas or fawkes / daimon / nara should work with enough retries

brutus without equipment so the assassin jumps on him

[velvet mountain]

like this right?

assassin jumps on lyca tho?

[deep basin]

ye, just saw that brutus is higher leveled, she jumps on the weakest hero. maybe daimon can carry even when she jumps on lyca? I'm not sure

[velvet mountain]

i’ll try reset brutus to 141

[rigid imp]

that's weird, she should target nara instead of lyca tho

[sudden tiger]

What do you guys think I can do to get unstuck?

[pale kettle]

Last stage sheeesh

[vagrant ibex]

@sudden tiger
Thoran brutus
Rosa lyca daimon

@pale kettle
Daimon rowan
Nara brutus fera
Or with oden try to teleport safiya
And it required a correct setup usually he would teleport backline if you put him on number 4

[coral raptor]

Halp

[vestal grail]

ur main problem is isabella and vedan are basically just power checks, try playing around w tasi bc she has more survivability against silvina, and saurus might be better thant itidus here. Rowan is rly rly good reccomend him 100%, so is fearael and nara so just test out different heroes ur not using

nara might be able to counter isabella or arden, lucius with rowan can possibly keep the team alive with the lucius ult

[pseudo vine]

Is this worth trying to cheese, already ran 70-100 runs.
Results are meh.

[maiden marsh]

No, just alna GB it if you can. Anything's better than cheese here unless you're out of options.

[pseudo vine]

Sounds good, was hoping for an ez pass xD

[undone folio]

How do I beat this stage? Skreg stays alive after Thoran killed everyone else

[tight juniper]

Have you considered using Lorsan? Maybe replace Lyca with him (If Thoran can manage to ult without lyca)

[undone folio]

Ok I’ll try it, but Duras call is only 4/5 stars so idk if he’ll get ult off

[upper path]

Anything I can do here?...

Silvana - 61, Skriath - 41.

[fiery wing]

at that point thats just going wukong to level 100 and wreck the first 6 chapters

[sand parcel]

am I gonna be here for a while? is this just a lot of replays level? or do I need to be stronger?
I've seen a warek in place here, it was with call tho and I can't merc one with call
should I just try the khasos comp? I think I saw one on afk helper
this one? I'm 16 levels lower tho

[upper path]

yeah working on that, the wait for exp is not very helpful - I have tried to push as much as possible for the bejeweled content and the kings tower content already. - Just wished that there was more I could do

[fiery wing]

well u can always afk

[upper path]

when are you allowed to garrison ainz

[fiery wing]

chapter 6 i believe

[umbral whale]

desperately need help, stuck for more than a week now

[warm heart]

This is what I used

If you really can't pass it then just use lucretia with 4 lvl 1 heroes.

[umbral whale]

I tried that, still doesnt work

[warm heart]

Any tips?

Timer runs out, thoran becomes invincible after everyone else is dead.

[rigid imp]

my team on that was like this
daimon

brutus
ferael
thoran
nara
But you can replace nara with raku i think, ferael just need to fear fawkes asap so he can't use coffin on daimon
Then its all about rng, you will stuck with 2 brutus kill your team sometimes

[tulip dagger]

Would prefer not to use ainz comp here, any suggestions?

[west skiff]

A little help

[pseudo vine]

Seirus is almost always left with 2% hp, have been retrying for the past 15 min. I know it's possible, but maybe furn/gear could be optimized better?

Nvm, finally worked xD

[lusty ferry]

for new event

[warm ember]

anyone has a good lineup for chap 11 w these heroes?

[sour quarry]

try Oden + Pippa

[keen temple]

Can someone help me I'm stucked here for a week

[karmic shore]

oden

thoran
rowan
daimon
kren

or

oden

thoran
eironn
rowan
daimon

[keen temple]

first one is failure they are instantly dying

same for the second one :(

[grizzled moth]

Help please
NVM got it

[pale kettle]

help plz this stage is annoying Af
any idea

[keen temple]

can someone help me with here..

[karmic shore]

of they die instantly you might need to level up your heroes a bit

[warm swan]

@pale kettle put arden there for cc. Can prolly bait silvina with a rosa, or yeah that silas ig

[keen temple]

I'm also stuck with ascensions...

[split oasis]

So I know that he's not recommended to take heroes to L if I can't get it to L+

But can I take heroes to L+ or M or M+ if I can't ascend them?

Photo Album:
http://imgur.com/a/glcEKuC

[karmic shore]

@split oasis yes but you don't have any fodder

[split oasis]

Well I can with Eironn...

[pseudo quarry]

you still stuck?

[split oasis]

I can get him to L+ or M if I use Arden as fodder

But Idk if it's worth it cuz, I don't think he'll work well with Daimon

[ebon hazel]

[pale kettle]

Tips pls?

[karmic shore]

lyca
..... mishka
eironn
..... saurus
tasi

[pale kettle]

Lv 160 Mirael
4 others 120
Crystal: antandra + shem out /// rowan !!! + lyca in

[pale kettle]

Thank u boo

[karmic shore]

[pale kettle]

@karmic shore :3

[velvet mountain]

how do i beat this, i always come close to winning

[elfin cloak]

why dont u try to put a lyca instead of like thoran or something or where mishka is idk

[karmic shore]

Arthur
ㅡㅡㅡdaimon
silas
ㅡㅡㅡrowan
thoran

im not so sure about that one tho

[karmic shore]

ainz
ㅡarthur
merlin
ㅡthoran/mishka
grezhul/raku

[signal galleon]

@pseudo quarry yes I am, 387 kicking my butt

[keen temple]

can anyone help me

[warm swan]

@keen temple have you considered using a fat merc if you've been stuck for a week?

[pseudo quarry]

youve got a few options

1. since your lvl deficit isnt that high you can merc a 309 antandra with call / chaosbringer and with enough retries she should be able to solo clear - engraved antandra would make it all the easier

2nd option, the most common high deficit clear option is

skriath (book)
-------Tidus (Shroud)
Kren (call)
-------Warek (call - for haste)
203 or 209 Brutus (barricade) - merc this

will need a few retries because you want warek to throw enemy brutus to your backline. make sure warek has yellow warrior furn equipped, i forget which 3, but some of the furniture give tenacity which you need to prevent brutus from 'stunning' your warek with his first hit - stopping wareks throw. tenacity gives a chance at preventing cc, so this part is rng

theres another option that uses safiya but i havent looked into it

[pseudo quarry]

im not sure if the fact that youre missing skriath 3f will make this not work as all clears ive seen have him with 3f

[karmic shore]

wukong
ㅜㅜㅜthoran
mehira
ㅜㅜㅡshemira
flora

@shut verge

[shut verge]

Oh thanks

[unborn gull]

Guys what is strongest setup for circus drez ?

[karmic shore]

check leader board

[onyx delta]

Should I make any changes as I am stuck on this stage?

[karmic shore]

do you have resonating crystal unlocked

[onyx delta]

Yes and izold dies too fast forgot to add this

[karmic shore]

make use of your skreg, level him up then try

rowan
ㅡㅡskreg
silas
ㅡㅡdaimon
izold

maybe

[onyx delta]

Should I replace izold with mishka in my main formation?

Her stun and wolves might tank better

[karmic shore]

since you are still early on in the game try to use your strongest available heroes until you can get more, i think there are some pinned guides which can help

[onyx delta]

Thanks

Didnt know that sticker would be sent separately 🤦

[zealous iron]

Whose furn and whose si do I upgrade

[signal galleon]

@pseudo quarry cheers for the detailed advice! I'll give it a shot :)

[maiden marsh]

#classic-questions

[signal galleon]

@pseudo quarry hahaha took a few retries but I got it! Thank you so much my friend! Now I can finally continue 😂

[pseudo quarry]

schweet

[pale kettle]

Any advice ?

[karmic shore]

joker
ㅡㅡlucius
rowan
ㅡㅡrosaline(on belinda)
belinda

@pale kettle

[faint crystal]

Anybody around to help

[karmic shore]

what's up

[faint crystal]

I need help picking heroes for peaks of time far frontier

Not really sure what to roll for to go best with what I got

[karmic shore]

show me

[faint crystal]

Mostly cause I’m pretty new and don’t know which heroes synergize... also at a bit of a level deficit so it’s pretty hard to get rolling with relics early

[karmic shore]

take joker kelthur and raku probably

[faint crystal]

Right now I roll with Titus and mishka up front and then Lyca with mihael in back. And try to roll for twins. But it’s not strong enough to beat the first few stages to farm up relics

I can also reset to get another go at diff hero selections

[karmic shore]

try a

oden

• • • thoran
      kelthur
• • • daimon
      joker

team and see if it works

[high marlin]

They need a healer

[faint crystal]

Lol I tried something else and died already -_-

New selection

[barren river]

Is this a good lineup? Who should i level up the highest apart from daimon? Oden or a tank?

[karmic shore]

that's pretty solid for now, id maybe switch grez with daimon.

also you can level thoran and oden equally for now

[pale kettle]

Somebody please help me finish chapter 23

So hard

[barren river]

@karmic shore thanks, is grezhul solid enough there or should i place another supporr instead?

[karmic shore]

maybe a silas of you have

[barren river]

Nope, needs to be graveborn?

[karmic shore]

not necessarily, but the more heroes you have from the same faction in the team, the higher the faction bonus you get is, plus silas is a really good support. But a rowan could still work too

[karmic shore]

mishka saurus nemora fawkes rosaline

[pale kettle]

twisted realm last chance I am now gold III

[karmic shore]

look at the leaderboard and copy the top formation

[pale kettle]

oooh right I remember now ty

[barren river]

Aight tyvm

[karmic shore]

oden
---daimon
silas
---skreg
thoran

[pale kettle]

will try this, thanks buddy.

[pale kettle]

Ok thanks, I'll try it

AYEE it worked tysm

@karmic shore thank u

[night relic]

need some advice on some lineups

[karmic shore]

oden
---thoran
silas
---daimon
morrow

should do the trick until you get more copies of heroes

[old oar]

Anyone know if I can beat this?

[night relic]

thank youu @karmic shore

[karmic shore]

lyca
---lucius
rowan
---mishka
morrow/tasi

maybe

[old oar]

Ill try

[pale kettle]

How I will win?

[karmic shore]

Gwyneth
---daimon
raku
---thoran
grez

[old oar]

Ty man. It worked

[karmic shore]

[old oar]

👍🏼

[pale kettle]

Don't have grez

[karmic shore]

grezhul

[pale kettle]

He demolished it well, but did not win, most likely it is necessary to pump the heroes, ty

[pale kettle]

I complete this, however now I am at a stage where I am losing almost to nothing

[whole bramble]

anyone got any ideas on how to beat this?

[pale kettle]

Ainz

• Brutus
  Rowan
• Albedo
  Tasi

[whole bramble]

you reckon itll work with 2 dims? got Albedo's +30

[pale kettle]

What else is there now except giving it just a few tries

See what it does, report back

[whole smelt]

Need some help with this stage

[pale kettle]

A random stage. Big brain

[whole smelt]

Sorry it’s chapter 15 stage 7

[whole bramble]

@pale kettle yeah been trying it but everything dies real fast, just about triggers Ainz's 9f ability but he dies right after

[pale kettle]

Lyca needs a crystal spot. Out: seirus, baden, thane, wukong

[whole smelt]

Ok thx

[short badge]

How can you not beat that, you're overpowered

With all due respect, of course

[pale kettle]

Bc Estrilda isn't a carry

[whole smelt]

Idk

[pale kettle]

Horse lady as first A pretty meh

[short badge]

That I know but he can't level Daimon past 140 so kinda shit situation there... :/

[whole smelt]

I just keep getting way to many estrilda’s

[short badge]

Did you faction scroll LB?

[pale kettle]

Eironn 180, other 3 to 160

That's how you'll lvl now

[whole smelt]

Yea ik trying. Ain’t got enough exp

[whole bramble]

remove from WL then

[whole smelt]

She’s not there is just keeps giving me her ;-;

[short badge]

No like, he's saying you should reset Estrilda to level 1, level her to 160 and make Eironn 180

[pale kettle]

No

[short badge]

Mb, I misunderstood you then

[pale kettle]

Just need patience for some exp

[whole smelt]

Yea ik

[pale kettle]

Don't spread fodder anymore, doing L heroes

Combine L+ fodder, prepare to bring Daimon to M
Prio

[whole smelt]

Yea ik. I keep summoning for her but I keep getting maulers and lightbearer’s

[pale kettle]

Good. You know

[whole smelt]

I hate fighting Brutus

[short badge]

I'm still curious, did you use your faction scrolls on Lightbearers? @whole smelt

[whole smelt]

No

Also 15-8 is so stupid… this Brutus has infinite health

[faint current]

Don’t damage him early. He gets massive attack and haste from being at low hp.

All you do by damaging Brutus early is powering him up while the rest of the enemy team is also beating you up.

Instead kill him last that way it’s a 5v1, making it a lot easier for your team to survive his immunity time.

Or use Nara/Nakoruru/ezio/Zolrath/etc. to remove his immunity or kill him through it

[brisk shale]

I need some help here

[karmic shore]

ainz
---albedo
eironn
---mishka
tasi

[brisk shale]

Didn’t work out thanks for trying though