lineup-help

[onyx mulch]

tbh rowan doesn't even need good gear to be good

[rigid imp]

well but he need dodge in some situation where he have to actually survive for a while

try either this:

ferael (remove his weapon, put eye on him, no extra haste)

arthur
rowan
brutus
daimon

or if daimon can't use his shield before getting kidnapped by fawkes then try this:

daimon

brutus (can be swap with rowan if you think your rowan can buy daimon some time at frontline)
rowan
arthur
ferael (same strat at above, note that this strat won't work if he already at 9f)

wish you have good luck with that

[midnight bronze]

Ye def seems like no easy stage and isn't even a boss stage

[rigid imp]

yeah, estrilda stage is really bad for daimon, and they have athalia + morvus + fawkes make it even worse
but its nothing compare to athalia+ezizh+estrilda one cancer

[rigid imp]

hey man how was it, did you wreck their butt yet?

[midnight bronze]

No

[light vortex]

Is the auto-placement for furniture trustworthy?

[worldly apex]

afaik it is

[civic nebula]

what the hell is wrong with this stage? This is literally impossible https://i.imgur.com/fSTaVbw.png

[midnight bronze]

[maiden marsh]

Guess you're stuck forever then

No one's passed that stage, everyone's stuck on KT 450

[midnight bronze]

The next boss stage

[umbral garden]

pls help

[dull flame]

Show the stage in battle, also I'm going to be busy for a while

[umbral garden]

wdym in battle?

[dull flame]

Uh nvm. I can't help you right now, will be busy for a while

[umbral garden]

alright

[worldly apex]

[dull flame]

Move joker to backline(swap positions with him and wu kong) then take out wu kong for lyca

You didn't built meta heroes much so it's hard to help

[south pilot]

help on this stage? tried so many times

[dull flame]

You build not many meta heroes, read the pins in #classic-questions

[south pilot]

i mean i will, but if i dont get them i cant build them xd

[chrome lotus]

Currently stuck any suggestions

[merry dune]

what is the best team with daimon for around ch13 onwards

[pale kettle]

Gwyn
Thoran
Rowan
Saurus
Oden/daimon
@chrome lotus

[brisk magnet]

What’s a good 5 for early game

[pale kettle]

Read pins in #classic-questions @brisk magnet

[spark parrot]

Been having a time with this stage, I've had Rowan in my wishlist for God knows how long but only ever got him to Elite+

[pale kettle]

Fawkes
Lucius
Merlin
Thoran
Ainz
Seocond
Desira
Brutus
Rosa run to daimon
Grez/Eiron
Daimon
@spark parrot

[abstract forge]

Any help with this I feel like I’ve tried every single way to line them up for the Da Vinci Trials but can’t seem to beat this last stage.

[pale kettle]

Google Da Vinci bountiful trials

[abstract forge]

OkY thank you @pale kettle didn’t think of that for some reason

[pale kettle]

Np

[strong aurora]

That was a pain, but idr what comp I used

[abstract forge]

I wish I could move Vinci to the back

I’m stupid nvm I forgot you drag them to move🙃

[little loom]

Anyone have any recommendations on a good lineup using these heroes? I think I wanna use Flora Gwyneth and Wukong for sure, the other two though: Oden, Kelthur OR Skriath, Safiya?

[raven fossil]

can someone help i been stuck at 9 - 20 for a long time

[abstract forge]

Any help with stage 15-40 lineup this is what I got to roll with and I can’t seem to beat the stage I been stuck on it for a few days tried everything way I can think of to beat it.

@raven fossil what do you all have for heroes?

[raven fossil]

@abstract forge

[pale kettle]

Please help with kings tower

[pale kettle]

Rest of ur hero box?

[abstract forge]

@raven fossil do you have the resources to either resonate or level up Raine and your legendary Mireal or elite Oscar?

[raven fossil]

yea

[abstract forge]

Try using your tanks you were using and either resonate or level up raine for your support putting her on the back bottom and Mireal in the middle

[raven fossil]

ok

who do i drop for raine?

[abstract forge]

Your wilder hero’s will be taken out and replaced with Mireal or Oscar and then raine so you can proc the 3/2 bonus

[warm swan]

@pale kettle brutus, grez, lyca, rowan, tasi? Also, did you card that grez?

[pale kettle]

yes

[raven fossil]

@abstract forge so something like this?

[plucky laurel]

Help

[abstract forge]

@raven fossil yes just like that

[pale kettle]

I do t have help so sorry but I just Wana say that really impressive how you got that far with your heros so good job 👍

[plucky laurel]

Thanks

[raven fossil]

was only able to kill one of them D:

[pale kettle]

This is my stage rn so good job lucerita huge carry just got mine mythic si 30 and went from 29-44 to this stage in like 20 mintues can’t wait for furni

[abstract forge]

@raven fossil did you equip the best gear you have available on them instead of keeping it on the ones you took out of the formation

[raven fossil]

yup

[strong aurora]

Did u read my comment from the other chat when u posted there?

[plucky laurel]

Lucretia is amazing, if you have her use her

But she is only useful when M or higher

[pale kettle]

Yea that’s why I took so long at first I was doing talene then lucerira and then I stoped playing because of school and now I just got her mythic

[plucky laurel]

Talene can also be useful when E, I don't see a reason ascending her early

[pale kettle]

Yea I got her legendary and then stopped was pretty dumb of me tbh but I’m still pushing good so👍👍

[plucky laurel]

L talene is fine, but shouldn't bring her higher too early

I have her E+ without stargazing for her even once

[pale kettle]

Yea I plan on getting lucerita to acend 1 star and then move on to twins and then talene

[plucky laurel]

No need to 1 star lucretia, A is fine

[pale kettle]

Engrave dosent help?

[plucky laurel]

And after lucretia you should go for alna ascended

[plucky laurel]

Will not make difference in lower chaps

[pale kettle]

Yep My brother from server 490sum just got his alna acend

[plucky laurel]

I am currently trying to get alna to ascended

[pale kettle]

Yea I gotta long way to go at the moment

[plucky laurel]

Same

She is still only E+

[stuck grove]

What's the thoran cheese comp again?

[oak sluice]

What to use to win against Ainz Comp?

[slim warren]

@ebon hazel

[ebon hazel]

Nah

[slim warren]

I see, dident want to put daimon in front of grezhul

He will debuff the shit out of him lol

[ebon hazel]

Daimon is a dude

[slim warren]

Yeah lol

@ebon hazel
Holy shit thank you. Did it first try with your advice about brutus frontline

[gilded needle]

Please help I’ve been stuck for a day. Can anyone help?

[velvet mountain]

need help with this

[stiff hazel]

how could i beat this level?

[slim warren]

Daimon brutus the fire girl nara something

[stiff hazel]

in that order or..

[slim warren]

Experiment, just dont put daimon in front of that horse girl. Put brutus there.

[foggy grove]

anyway to clear this without 30 tidus?

[outer quiver]

Got stuck here, im trying to get to 37 for the extra valley reward, any help/idea for the 3 i haven't beaten yet(i can swap the ainz team to any other slot if needed, also my call is only 4* so my thoran isnt that good)

[little loom]

What 5 should I be running?

[vagrant ibex]

@outer quiver
1st team is raku but with daimon or rosa
2.ainz bedo
3.lucre
4.alna grez fera
5.whateva

[outer quiver]

my raku team only wins the 3rd one, gets demolished on the others, and i need to use daimon with grez and alna cuz mine is only L+

[vagrant ibex]

@little loom used non acsended hero like arden nor dat fire girl after dat you need to get a gud carry hero like daimon or oden or grezhul or tidus or ainz

So which team is your problem?

[outer quiver]

like i said, i could beat the third one, and my ainz team can with either the first or second one easily

the 5th one i can prolly use almost anything, so i need help with 4th and either 1s or second (wichever i dont use ainz on)

my luc gets destroyed by flora sadly, she manages to kill 3 most of the time and then flora just deletes her

[vagrant ibex]

1st try with raku i beat it with dat team try to pair mehira with rosa

[outer quiver]

who do i remove then for rosa, kren?

[vagrant ibex]

Ye kren , or if its harder pair with daimon
Lyca , rowan
Daimon mehira raku

No 4. Grez thoran kren migjt be work

[outer quiver]

i cant do the first team

i can do lyca brutus rosa mehira raku?

[vagrant ibex]

Oh you dont have rowan? ,, sadly your mehira need to spam ulti first so she need energy from rowan

[outer quiver]

dont have that one

[vagrant ibex]

Or r 2nd one then with thoran and pipa lorsan

[outer quiver]

i have pipa and thoran, but like i said my thoran has no furn yet and my call is 4*

[vagrant ibex]

I forgot the name but she can give allies energy on her si skills

Throw thoran with pipa skills

[outer quiver]

Like this?

[vagrant ibex]

You dont need tasi nor flora

[outer quiver]

what else then

[vagrant ibex]

Try with lorsan and ninja graveborn forgot the name xD

[outer quiver]

dont have either

unless a level 1 works

[tight juniper]

Just put em in the crystal

[vagrant ibex]

Lol ... did you try 1st team with raku and mehira ?
Try it
Lyca brutus
Rosa(call) mehira (mage energy) raku

Rosa follow mehira

Might The dodge blessed you

[pale kettle]

Please I’m so close to the end :3

[vagrant ibex]

Grez bruts
Daimom rowan fera

[pale kettle]

@vagrant ibex thanks but I got it w/ this

[vagrant ibex]

Lol

[patent horizon]

Excuse me, I'm a new player, any formation suggestions?

[grand perch]

Hello @patent horizon,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[velvet mountain]

.guidelist

🤔

[elfin trench]

Recently unlocked twisted realm, is there a decent line up I can do w/ my heroes?

For the grotesque mage one by the way

[untold wharf]

Im stuck here currently gated by ascension. Anything i can do to improve?

[eager basin]

Any help please

[velvet mountain]

how do i defeat cc team?

[pale kettle]

Mehira moments

[rigid imp]

nara ftw (btw she won't hook mehira tho, she hook that thane instead )

[zinc elm]

Should I make skrath leg+?????

[full quarry]

Any ideas? Ainz and daimon can get 1 ult off before getting nuked by athalia

[rigid imp]

i would put another tank there instead of daimon and move him to the backline, and put him at slot 3 so he get less chance to be fear by enemy ferael

[rigid imp]

And you can try ferael trick because your ferael isn't 9f yet, remove his weapon and give him dura's eyes, this make he use normal attack first then use his fear (instead of use the arrow ability first then fear, which is way way slower than normal attack)
Put him opposite of enemy ferael may make him fear them first (and interrupt enemy ferael fear too) and give greater winning chance

[full quarry]

I beat it, just had to get lucky with ainz crit

[daring kayak]

I don't have albedo, Who can help me?

[torpid lance]

Other team beatable? Any tips welcome

[rancid zinc]

Here's my current line up and then my other heroes, should I swap anyone out or keep using what I am?

[pale kettle]

Wait ehat

[bronze nebula]

Any team comps that help me climb early

[old oar]

Anybody know how I can beat this? Any line up suggestions?

[umbral whale]

Am I supposed to be able to beat this? The fight lasts for 7 seconds (coz brutus is the only one alive xD)

[rigid imp]

do this
antandra

lucius
rowan
brutus
tasi (if she can't use banish then use lyca instead)

[old oar]

K

[sleek hill]

Help step afk arena players, I’m stuck

[old oar]

Ty very much. It worked

[rigid imp]

congrats

[vestal grail]

Help pls

[elfin cloak]

uh try
daimon

brutus
eironn
lyca
nara
or luicius instead of nara idrk

[velvet mountain]

still need help

[elfin cloak]

try
daimon

brutus
rowan
thoran
silas

idk tho prob not

[velvet mountain]

ok

[vestal grail]

Didn’t win but closest I’ve gotten imma try to get eironn m or M+ it will likely work

[elfin cloak]

mm ok

you could try ainz there also if u wanted

[velvet mountain]

thanks, worked after a lot of retries

[rigid imp]

i would try this
daimon

brutus
rowan
lyca
morrow (feed that thing to silvina)

[elfin cloak]

lol

[elfin cloak]

isabella might be annoying if u dont stun

[velvet mountain]

btw, is garrisoning ainz worth it? i kinda want to play him

[rigid imp]

not worth at your stage

[velvet mountain]

why not?

[elfin cloak]

ainz is pretty good i thinks

cuz after i garrisoned ainz i went up like 8 chapters

tho i was on chap 15 i thinks

tho u prob wanna wait cuz i wasted abunch of materials

[rigid imp]

you will need some investment to make ainz work good, and you need albedo to make he work at full power

[velvet mountain]

ah ok

[elfin cloak]

yup i still dont got albedo sadgeness

ive been saving all my resources for davinci and stuff

[velvet mountain]

so i should stick with my current team?
daimon, silas, rowan
other 2 depends but i usually use oden/ferael, thoran, brutus

[rigid imp]

yeah, stick with daimon, he help me through 30 chapter with only 240 lvl

[velvet mountain]

ok, i should be able to get him to ascended soon
just need a L+ and 1 more copy

[elfin cloak]

yup same i need 1 copy

just put brutus in front of daimon and you gonna b e fine i thinks

[velvet mountain]

ok

[rigid imp]

yeah daimon behind brutus ftw

[velvet mountain]

btw why is daimon better on backline?
i usually use
rowan

daimon
silas so he could get both heals

[elfin cloak]

daimon die very fast if doesn't have shield up so front line daimon die ver quick

daimon can be in front if the front isnt like mega burst damage person

[rigid imp]

you want him to active his shield, daimon won't use his shield at frontline because he got so many interruption
(some case daimon will sit at frontline but its very rare)

iirc i only use daimon frontline once at 24-60 or 25-60, only once

[velvet mountain]

ah ok
havent seen a lot of mega bursts in early game

[vestal grail]

Got murderered 💀

[wet nexus]

What team of 5 would you use ?

[rustic falcon]

Help me pls

[echo parcel]

Anyone got a solid comp for De Vinci guild battle lvl 510 for the 4th battle that doesnt have mehire and zolrath in it

[wet dagger]

Need help with this the Warek is immune to the cc and the tasi just randomly kills Nara

Nvm beat it

[viscid canyon]

Any ideas?

[noble crag]

How can i do it?

[viscid canyon]

Diamon
Brutus
Rowan
Thoran
Lyca/fereal

[viscid canyon]

^ forgot to ping

[pale kettle]

ik u beat it but why tf is mehira not backmid

[wet dagger]

She was giving warek his shield and stuff from the whip and alt

[pale kettle]

weird

[noble crag]

Isabella drains energy from thoran

[wet dagger]

Stuck on 32-60 now

[viscid canyon]

Switch thoran and Brutus then, you just wanna take hits for daimon so daimon can use his alt as much as possible

[viscid canyon]

Sucks to be stuck on a 60 stage. I’m stuck on 27-60 atm

[wet dagger]

fr it sucks, I assume you tried ainz?

[viscid canyon]

My ainz is garbo

[wet dagger]

Does his alt still do a lot of damage tho?

[viscid canyon]

Si17 and 0/9 furniture. So he’s useless

He can’t even survive to use his alt😂

[wet dagger]

oh

[viscid canyon]

I can’t try anyway, put ainz and ab in

[wet dagger]

You could wait and when you can merc a lucretia that’s what I do when I’m stuck 😂

[worldly apex]

i used that team to win, but if it doesnt work try rowan brutus daimon eironn fera

[viscid canyon]

My eironn doesn’t have enough haste and doesn’t pull 🥲

[viscid canyon]

^

[prisma briar]

So I played this game for a bit but never new what I was doing

So anybody got any ideas if I can salvage anything with this

[mighty pelican]

You can check Popular Heroes....

Raise Graveborn

[ruby belfry]

Any suggestions? Stage: 21-53

[maiden marsh]

the ingame statistics are often misleading at best

[fair kayak]

Getting destroyed by everything lol, closest I've gotten was Daimon vs. Estrilda but Estrilda full stunned me

30k dust away from getting everyone to 240 😭

[violet igloo]

@fair kayak I'd try :

Daimon
Brutus/Thoran
Rowan
Grezhul
Ferael

See if you can get faction bonus to get the +10%hp bonus it might help.

[fair kayak]

Grez is completely useless for me, in campaign at least :( not sure why I 9f him so fast.

[violet igloo]

once you get your tank tree higher and also +30 him down the road, he'll be useful. I use him a lot in PvE but I'm at later stage of campaign

it's not a bad investment

[fair kayak]

Fwiw, the formation I posted is the exact one someone on my friends list had, except I don't have Thoran A

[maiden marsh]

grez is certainly useful before 30 so long as you properly protect him

[violet igloo]

yeah, what's most imoprtant is his 9f. You could have tried with an Alna too but you don't have a copy it seems

[fair kayak]

No :(

[fair kayak]

I really should have done Thoran A earlier, every successful lineup I see had one

[maiden marsh]

are you looking at ingame clears or afkhelper?

[cinder sedge]

hey all, new to the game. any tips for the best heroes in my inventory, for the comp? THANKS!!

i mean, who should i focus on?

I think I do have some good characters but I really have no clue who one I should pick over who soooo yeah…

[old oar]

Anybody have a lineup?

Anyone that can help me?

[old oar]

Anyone?

[tight juniper]

Who is your carry?

[ruby belfry]

Any suggestions? These are my heroes, and I’m on stage 21-53

[tight juniper]

Is Ant your carry?

[old oar]

My carry is ant

These are my heroes

[valid flax]

ooooooof you have some stuck at legendary

[tight juniper]

Replace Wu with Lyca. Re arrange it as Luci, Brutus, Ant, Rowan, and Lyca

[solemn creek]

Is this a solid thoran comp or should I switch some heros?

[ruby belfry]

yes

[warm swan]

@solemn creek have a go at it with normal speed

[tight juniper]

You should try to link Ainz with Ant. But an alt way would be using Brutus, Ant, Lyca, Ferael (just there to stun), and Oden

[pale kettle]

I need some Help for my Formation can someone Help me

[thick badger]

Here are the available units. Any suggestions?

[rancid zinc]

Would formation 1 or 2 be better?

[tight juniper]

It depends on the stage lol

[feral mountain]

Need a bit of help on stage 60 for chapter 21

Been hardstuck for about 3 days

[eternal badger]

is king hogan a good hero?? just got him

[ebon hazel]

Anyone have 37-4-1 without 5* call

[clear cipher]

Is it better to have Rosaline following the tank or back line?

[zinc maple]

make her follow your carry, in your case belinda

I need help with this level

[patent heron]

hm maybe put lucius in the front top with daimon of the far top place ferael on the middle and shemira on the bottom and anything on the bottom front line

idk tho

[zinc maple]

worked surprisingly

[patent heron]

well when there is a brutis i usually put a lucius and a daimon together to face him

[zinc maple]

yea, I just didn't expect shem to do anything

[patent heron]

well graveborn is effective against light and she would aim for who ever was at the frontline

[fair kayak]

Oops somehow just saw this. Both I guess I have 2 friends in my guild just ahead of me

[viral dock]

What team can i do to not let a single one of my hero die

[elfin trench]

What's the best early game lineup for the grotesque mage??

[rigid imp]

put high sustain hero in and 1 main carry

i would use albedo, merlin, grez, daimon, thoran

or use that merc ainz, daimon, albedo, merlin, thoran
(the longer they surive the better)

[pale kettle]

Should I eat the trashy elites

[rigid imp]

what elite do you want to feed ?

[pale kettle]

I’m feeding thoran since he is mythic and I’m eating Baden and some elite fodder

I have enough thoran copy to make him white that’s why I want to do it

[rigid imp]

you have any baden left, i would keep at least 1 copy of him after feeding

[pale kettle]

What other graveborn can I eat other than Baden

[rigid imp]

could be torne (i would also keep 1 copy of him)

but only feed them when it give you certain progress imo, like 1 baden to make thoran A for first A or 5A or to make him 309 is acceptable

but can you show your gb box in #classic-questions ?
it would be easier to decide what to do

[velvet mountain]

need help on this one,
have come close to winning with
thoran

brutus
rowan
daimon
silas

[obsidian flint]

Not sure if it will work but might be worth trying Thoran Brutus Daimon Rowan Arden

[old oar]

Can’t get thru this level

[lapis dew]

i need help with a team lineup for 22-60.. they have assassins that wreck my team

[velvet mountain]

didnt work

[wheat scarab]

Need some help here

Nevermind, i did it lmao

[old oar]

Anybody know a line up

[warped kayak]

Can someone give me a early game daimon build

[pearl night]

Sup guys, do you have any suggestions ? Im stuck at this level

[magic python]

I have enough for da Vinci and I'm wanting to use him in my team. when I do get him, who should I swap?

[fleet thistle]

@dull flame btw i got to diamond 2, got carried by some randos tho

[dull flame]

hey good job! I'm stuck at 8400 trophies, HOE this season too difficult

[burnt lily]

Some help?

[dull flame]

rowan out for feral maybe

[burnt lily]

thx i have it

[rugged cairn]

Numisu + Athalia just oneshot my backline, Am I just missing levels?

[old oar]

I’m stuck step bro!

[burnt lily]

Some help

[warm maple]

@tulip dagger

[tulip dagger]

Brutus instead of thoran, rowan mid

[warm maple]

Ok

This?

[tulip dagger]

Give it a try yeah

Shield might come from grez but just delaying isa might help with daimon ulting

[warm maple]

It didn't work tried twice they die way to fast

Daimon has trouble because he gets pushed around by horse girl and Grez

[burnt lily]

@dull flame

[tulip dagger]

Try more if it gets closer
Or just get all one more lvl to unlock the 141 skill

[warm maple]

That's what I'm doing just waiting afk for all 132 for Brutus 7 sec immune

[halcyon plaza]

Any help? Thanks in adv!!

[umbral whale]

I would try pulling isabella with nara because once she ults its pretty much game over and she also steals energy from daimon making him ult later than he should

[hushed badger]

cry

[umbral whale]

need help on this one

[gilded needle]

Help. Been stuck for 3 days

[pale kettle]

HOE got way easier by the end of the season for me, I actually did what u said and bought tickets, waited @dull flame

[dull flame]

good!

[warm swan]

@fresh owl lyca, silv, arden, fera, lorsan

[old oar]

Been stuck a while. Can u someone help me?

[rigid imp]

how about
tasi

brutus
rowan
lucius
antandra

[old oar]

I’ll try

[rigid imp]

if you have nara, replace tasi with nara so she will help disrupting that vurk, he's the main problem to your antandra

[old oar]

Ok

[pale kettle]

My team getting demolished

[strong aurora]

Check the pins in #classic-questions it has a beginner guide. It's a long read but super helpful, tells u all u need to know

[clear cipher]

Thank you!

[shy onyx]

You can try to use thoran and Grezhul substituting low health heroes apart from Rowan (You want all of them to survive and then let Ainz clean up everything)

[vestal grail]

Help pls idk what to do here btw Ik Nara belongs in backline i just spam put my main formation down to get a screenshot

[cerulean nimbus]

Best pvp team I could make?

[strong aurora]

That's prob what I would be using in your shoes until u get albedo setup more. Prob swap diamon and Brutus tho right?

[tawny sluice]

focus on getting your ainz and albedo to si30+. but right now, i'f say swap thoran for fareal or lyca

[glass trench]

try wukong its very strong at start

[frail loom]

oden very strong everytime

[dapper jay]

I need som help.. would appreciate anything u can tell me

[heavy gorge]

Lucius shemira is trash don't up they focus to other

[serene basin]

What would be a good grotesque mage set up, I've seen lots of different characters used but I don't know what's better, I've seen izolds tasi twins mortas saurus grez ww and more Idk who to try and get a better score I have 1 try left

[onyx basin]

i just got in my first championship fight and i want some help if someone wants to help please do so

[pearl night]

Any advice ? Im stuck :/

[pale kettle]

Suggestion NEVER put daimon in front of smth like ogi or estrilda and
Fera w/ weapon

Brutus
Rosa
Rowan
Daimon
(Maybe)

How to pass

[neat maple]

This happens when i press begin

[lapis dew]

Need help

[umbral whale]

reset mirael and upgrade daimon all the way. Use him as a carry

he can frontline for now

[umbral whale]

does the rowan die instantly when you place him across athalia?

you have 5 heroes upgraded for now, dont level her up

[lapis dew]

no. ainz does though

ainz wont survive to pop off his special

[umbral whale]

try this then

support
lyca/brutus
rowan
arthur
ainz

The support could be merlin, ferael, talene. Try swaping brutus and lyca to see which one works better

I am not too good in making teams but a bit of experimenting might help you to clear this stage

[rigid imp]

if your pop have enough gear that allow him to dodge and survive for a while (ideally t2 wp and t2 boots or t1 with 3-5* enhance) then put him at lyca/brutus place base on WhiteDeath lineup
otherwise just use lyca/brutus

[lament crystal]

Hi all downloaded the game today pretty sure I played a bit last year.

Could I get a direction in terms of line up?

Should I roll more heroes?

Appreciate the help thanks in adv

[zealous iron]

heroes are pretty much the best way to spend diamonds

[lament crystal]

thanks I'll spend them then

Rolled some new heroes

[rancid zinc]

Best team?

[patent heron]

I think rowan on the bottom backline with morrow on the top backline or middle and tasi in the backline as well with grezhul at the top backline and thoran on the frontline bottom

[rancid zinc]

This right?

[patent heron]

yep

[rancid zinc]

Cool thank you, what makes tasi better then belinda?

[patent heron]

she heals a lot more health

[maiden marsh]

Check out the pinned guides in #classic-questions

[maiden marsh]

Tasi is used for crowd control, not healing

[patent heron]

oopy but still better that belinda i think

[old oar]

Anyone know how I can beat this?

[rigid imp]

you shouldn't take the merc camp, normal lab rule is "always go for enemy slab, take as much relic as you can"

[patent heron]

maybe swap lucius for estrilda

[old oar]

Got it. Thx

[signal galleon]

Can anyone help me with a line up for mauler tower 387? I've been stuck on it for ages with no luck.

[patent heron]

might want to focus more tanks or melee heroes on Brutus a bit more

[patent heron]

if you can defeat brutus the others will be easy

[old oar]

Does nylons know a lineup for this?

[warped kayak]

Roman is so goooos

[pale kettle]

guys, what team of these heroes can you assemble?

[keen temple]

Can someone help me

[lament crystal]

Having some trouble clearing is this a good line up? Should i swap for something else? Ty

[bright vine]

try to lvl rowan up bc you see the punch thing there where 52938(is yours)and 75362(the enemy ones) that means yours is low but try to lvl up your heros and the their equipment

and rowan is a good hero like lucretia and flora try to lvl them up too up to 90 or 80

[lament crystal]

aite sounds good tyty

[bright vine]

np!

[elder gale]

Cant seem to pass these 2 cheese stages

[quartz creek]

I’m stuck on this level what should I do?

[cerulean nimbus]

Any ideas?

[hard forge]

Swap Rowan with flora and then take flora out, put Eironn position 4

[velvet mountain]

how do i beat this

[sour quarry]

replace Silas with Ferael

[velvet mountain]

doesnt work.. or am i too weak?

[sudden pine]

Try Oden in place of Silas

Or Nara to slow Isabella's ult

[cerulean nimbus]

Eironn dies within 1 sec. flora does not. I don’t see the reasoning of swapping them

[hard forge]

Wtf is flora gonna do. She might as well not even be on the field. Eironn a purpose is to group the enemies up for daimon, not to live

[rigid imp]

then i don't think you know how daimon synergy with that
the only reason for eironn there is pull 4 enemy into 1 place

not all heroes have to survive to win, you can just sacrifice some if they did their jobs (lyca's haste, eironn pull, nara hook, ....)

[cerulean nimbus]

I see, I tried it about 10 times with pull boi and j passed, thank yoy granite

[pale kettle]

Good? Or I will change

[high storm]

3rd try, will be first one with daimon mythic tho, i just got him, got smacked the first 2 times, anything i can change or do?

[elfin bloom]

Can someone suggest me teams? Im stuck and i need new teams

[fleet thistle]

im almost diamond 1 any improvment i can make? (HoE)

[eager kelp]

Help please. Baden never dies

[fleet thistle]

got to diamond 1 good teams to defend?

[eager kelp]

It always ends like this

[maiden marsh]

ainz, alna burst, GB, cycle, random 5th

[pale kettle]

trials will have same outcome every time if u use same comp (unless u manual). Google da vinci arena of trials guide

[old oar]

anyone that can help@me?

[umbral whale]

Have you set up your wishlist according to the guide? If not, do it asap. Also level your Wukong to lvl 100 first and then evenly level other 4, use oden and Brutus after putting them in the rc.

[pale kettle]

Try switching Rowan and Ant. Also can try swapping out tasi for lyca

[slim warren]

Any idea on how to beat it? The cat girl is the boss.

[frozen sun]

Anyone got any ideas to help me out?

[patent heron]

probably dont use so many maulers because lights are stronger against them so use some graveborns against them and use ones that stun them first before the tanks stun you and also get a support in there to heal the team

[frozen sun]

That was a surprisingly simple solution

[fiery wing]

hey @rigid imp what did you used here?

[patent heron]

dam bro that looks hard for u the levels are completely different so is the attack ratings

[fiery wing]

eirron and tasi soo annoying

[patent heron]

mmm you probably want some maulers in there to fight off the wilders

also get healers

[fiery wing]

yea.. the thing is my maulers are trash

[patent heron]

i understand i have no maulers above legendary yet

[patent heron]

probably use merlin and talene

[noble crag]

Hoe can i beat it

[strong aurora]

This is the dumbest battle I've had to date. I can get it down to just thoran but kelthurs ghost then 1shots whatever's left.

[maiden marsh]

The izold merc is likely a decent bet here versus baden

Try thoran izold ferael silas oden

[strong aurora]

I haven't tried any of the mercs yet. Was hoping I could get away without doing that.

My last hero will be 240 tomorrow. I'll see if it will be possible for me to raise my hero lvls and try again

[maiden marsh]

Thoran kelthur ferael is pretty much worst case scenario you'll find that early on

[strong aurora]

Oh it's def a major pain lol. Has me pulling hair out haha

[keen abyss]

Help pweeeaaaasssee

[patent heron]

put daimon on the top front line and gruzhul on the bottom frontline, place eirron on the bottom backline rowan in the middle and lyca at the top maybe

[keen abyss]

Gonna try it thanks 😁

[patent heron]

np

[slim warren]

Any idea?

[rigid imp]

iirc it was
ferael

daimon
rowan
brutus
thoran

[pale kettle]

my queen just gets one-hit here am i missing something? same comp everyone uses on afkhelper

[maiden glen]

Help

[rigid imp]

maybe gear, str gear provide minor dodge and with some rng your queen can dodge until she ult i think

[rigid imp]

what problem ? enemy is only about 2x your power so i don't think its that bad tho

[maiden glen]

No matter how I move they kill me

[rigid imp]

can you describe that ?

like luc can't use ult at all or luc can't kill enemy before they kill her or something

[rigid imp]

hmm do you have safiya ?

[maiden glen]

Unfortunatly not

She is my next prio tho

[rigid imp]

if you have safiya you might try this
luc

skriath
eironn
lyca
safiya (E is enough, she only need haste to use the prism then die and activate luc sign)

[maiden glen]

Ok I guess ill have to wait then but thank you ^^

[rigid imp]

yeah, if i have safiya i would use 100 diamonds to put her in the crystal, give her some haste gear + dura's call and try this again
waiting is not good for my health

and you should remove some of skriath and lyca gear too (dodge gear), they have to die after doing their job to activate luc sign

[bright sigil]

Any help? 36-60 fight nr 2

[rigid imp]

i thought you would thoran cheese this stage

but your deficit is low so i think other comp worth better imo

[bright sigil]

Cant do thoran cheese😬 Any tips tho?

[rigid imp]

i have no idea
maybe replace gwyn with lorsan ? cuz gwyn can't do much anyway, if lorsan can use his link its better

[bright sigil]

I got it eventually

thoran izold ferael daimon and twins

[sick oasis]

Any pointers I'm struggling badly

[golden perch]

Post rest of box @sick oasis

[sick oasis]

thats all of it fairly new @golden perch

[golden perch]

Nice you are following the guide well it seems. Got some good GBs to try. I’d get Daimon and fereal on the crystal for sure. They are top tier. Then try something with them, Arden, Mirael, and Lucius

[sick oasis]

im trying to follow it merssed up bit befor i found it

[golden perch]

Could try leveling up Shem instead of Mirael but don’t invest more fodder into Shem

Nah your box look totally fine

[sick oasis]

yeah she was my mistake watched a old guide that said use her as a carry

[golden perch]

If you get stuck rotate in Arden/Fereal. Try to keep Daimon in he’s OP. Look out for a Brutus too. And tasi and Lyca.

How’s your wishlist look?

[sick oasis]

yeah i got all them on my alt what i play when im stuck lol but not on the main lol

even pulled a ezizh on my alt 😦 mian lucks trash haha

[warm swan]

@sick oasis golus, shem, silv, mira, rosa. Make rosa follow mira

[sick oasis]

do i swap the levels around on shem and mira like me and suno spoke about?

really want to hit chapter 12 😄

[golden perch]

Try without it first.

[sick oasis]

shem got 1 shot lmao

ill swap them over see what happens

[warm swan]

Seems fine since both are l+ anyway. Just don't invest more like what he/she said also.

[sick oasis]

everything getting owned taking to much damage

@warm swan little recording of my fails 😄

[grizzled terrace]

New to the game and am finding everything a bit overwhelming. Can anyone give me some tips on who to focus on?

[warm swan]

Oh that's bad. I thought silv was gonna target that ankhira.

[sick oasis]

yeah not even close haha idk what todo feel like im be stuck for a while

[pale kettle]

Maybe try a fer izold sherm diamon type team?

I would do maybe daimon golus sherm izold fer

[sick oasis]

ah my crystals full gunna have to take some stuff out then

[golden perch]

Daimon even just elite is strong

[pale kettle]

I would wait maybe once you get a grave born food get fer leg plus

[sick oasis]

Who do I take out

@pale kettle @golden perch

[pale kettle]

Nobody wait a lil but I’d say

[sick oasis]

aww man i only been playing a week gotta take breaks already i no games afk but i wanted to grind abit 😦

[pale kettle]

There’s a ton you can still do

I’ve been on the same lvl for 3 weeks but I still play active

[warm swan]

@sick oasis sorry. Can you try that again but swap shem and rosa's position? And make rosa follow mirael instead

[pale kettle]

I read mirael as mehira I was like man already for a hypo

[sick oasis]

nah samething happend the ran me over

they do to much damage

[warm swan]

Sorry 😐

[sick oasis]

super stuck haha

@warm swan its correct not to enhance gear right?

[warm swan]

If non-mythic then yeah it's not advisable to do so. It will just be rendered obsolete by better gears sooner

[sick oasis]

i get that just wannag et to 12 so i can get some 😄

@warm swan i did it time to get stuck on the next stage

[rigid imp]

yeah, only enhance if that gear is factional mythic

[sick oasis]

think im to underleveled then getting hammered

[patent heron]

Maybe not put shemira on the frontline

[sick oasis]

yeah i took her out but my tanks getting hammered with out healers then i do no damage

[patent heron]

Mmm

[patent heron]

Try using Roman and shemira on the backline

Or just keep trying different lineups and positions if not then just afk for better stuff

[sick oasis]

im just do squishy even with rowan tanks dont even get half way to alt

[patent heron]

Mm you can try sacrificing characters so the tanks can get a few more hits

[midnight bronze]

So close to beating ch 29

Nvm got it

Final stage

[patent heron]

maybe replace brutus for lucius and swap him around for rowan then swap rowan for farael

[crude hearth]

Damn Isabella

[dim bluff]

I'm not sure if there's any thing I can do short of renting a hero from someone

[devout path]

Lucius late game isn’t advised, along with Daimon usually needs SI 20 in order to act as a carry. I would also look into swapping Leo for Daimon, then maybe front lining Tasi for her ult.

[signal canopy]

Erionn/Saf team with Tasi Diamon and Fereal. If it doesn't work then focus more on Diamon and tank/CC

[dim bluff]

I managed it with this

[old oar]

Am I supposed to beat this?

[devout path]

Read the pins so you know how to better properly allocate fodder. Ant and Luc won’t do much there.

[west skiff]

Help me (Test server)

[sharp adder]

What heroes to use to kill three backline heroes first?

[pseudo raven]

Try this

[sharp adder]

I only have a lucretia (merc) and nara

[rigid imp]

if you can merc a 309 ainz and have oden you can try those two heroes combo, place any frontline that when the fight start oden tele numisu away (not brutus, brutus mean fail ), ainz opposite safiya, then retry for the achievement

[sharp adder]

These are the heroes i have

[rigid imp]

can your ainz 1 shot enemy with 1 ult ?

[sharp adder]

I'll try and get back to u

[rigid imp]

i hope you succeed, that comp took me like 6-7 retry (somehow 2 backline and numisu die at once but it doesn't count so i have to retry until it work )

[sharp adder]

I was able to do it with this comp subject to rng of course...

[faint crystal]

Ideas for 10-40 please?

[unborn gull]

guys any1 have a setup working for "kill 3 backlines first" in the new misty ? 🙂

[royal stag]

Pop and Merlin Front
Athalia, Nara and Lucretia back

[unborn gull]

Pop ?

[wheat scarab]

I need help here for the last gate to open

I extremely hate these "kill back/front line first" challenges

[rigid imp]

can you show full box ?

[wheat scarab]

Its okay if I don't have the team to finish it...im used to dissapointments in my life

[rigid imp]

you can try ainz + oden (i used this to passed that key) if your ainz can 1 hit them
let oden tele numisu away and rng start

[wheat scarab]

Dang, its all up to rng now....

[rigid imp]

well you just have to ensure that oden will 100% tele numisu away when the fight start then after that its just about the system counting your kill

[south grail]

How do I cheese this

I have pippa sig 20. Just hidden

[grizzled moth]

Any campaign hero suggestion?

[umbral whale]

Use lyca, extremely good support and works at low ascension for her buffs

[grizzled moth]

Change silvina to lyca?

[umbral whale]

Yeah

[grizzled moth]

Thank you

[humble apex]

Ezizh/estrilda thoran talene lorsan pippa
X call X X warden
Ezizh/estrilda, talene, and lorsan ascensions don’t matter

[primal ice]

Who should I put on Reso Crystal (2 spots open)

Was thinking either Lyca + Brutus or Lyca + Chicken

[rigid yew]

Hey, someone Can help me with my team ? I don't know what is the best for me 😅

[royal stag]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[patent heron]

Probably all on your top row plus row an minus the witch lady I forgot her name

[rigid yew]

Thanks you 😁

[rigid yew]

But this is lineup help ;-;

[hardy gyro]

not really sure who to use my heroes arent that great either

[rigid imp]

maybe
cecilia

kaz
nara
lucius/shem
khasos

[hardy gyro]

oo ok i’ll try that out thanks

[rigid imp]

i assume that khasos,nara and cecilia will kill those backline before khaz took out numisu
if they can't then you should think about another strategy

[hardy gyro]

well yea I’ll think about another strategy thanks for the help!

[acoustic axle]

1st fight is easy but not sure what i should use for 2nd

[hardy gyro]

managed to pull through

[dapper jay]

I don’t know what to do and i’m stuck

[royal stag]

U build Skriath?

[acoustic axle]

i came back to the game 2 months ago so more than half of all the heroes are new. hes on the list but not yet

[royal stag]

With him and his 3f, eironn and Lucretia u can use 5 pulls thats a good Team for campain

[acoustic axle]

am aware but that doesnt help me with this battle :/ need 2 more copies to asc him

[nimble mountain]

y'all gotta send help I cant get past this 🙏

[sharp adder]

Need help for this stage

These are the heroes i got

[nimble mountain]

I doubt you're making it past that with those heroes

try the joker and queen matchup maybe

[royal stag]

Maybe Grez, Brutus Front
Ferael, Silas and Daimon Back

[pale kettle]

i would love to hear your suggestions, especially on a replacement for hogan 🙂

[topaz skiff]

I’m stuck on this level, any suggestions?

[royal stag]

Can u show ur box

[topaz skiff]

Yeah, sorry

[royal stag]

Any Brutus, Nara or Eironn ?

[topaz skiff]

No

[royal stag]

Did u read the pinned guide in #classic-questions ?

[eager basin]

Any help?

[royal stag]

Maybe Thoran, Brutus Front
Rowan, Daimon and Silas Back

[eager basin]

okay i'm testing

[long cedar]

Or Rowan/Thoran front - Raku/Stitchy/Nara back. Not sure if Raku will hold up against Bella tho.

[eager basin]

i test

[sick lotus]

any help?

[ocean sail]

Cant beat this shit been trying for a fucking hour

[eager basin]

i complete the level with thoran/rowan - nara/daimon/sylas

[long cedar]

Try switching out Oden for Eironn.

[sick lotus]

eironn can’t pull fast enough

[long cedar]

Did you try putting Call on him?

[sick lotus]

ended up getting it by swapping ferael for lyca

took smth like 50 tries tho lmao

[split oasis]

Just got Daimon to A!

Who do I work on now? How should my lineup be (campaign (15) ) ?

[gaunt dragon]

Anyone I could swap to get more damage?

[maiden marsh]

replace rowan for warek

if no warek, use lorsan

[gaunt dragon]

Even if Warek has no SI or furn?

[maiden marsh]

yes

[gaunt dragon]

Alright lemme try that

@maiden marsh I got less dmg. Twins and mortas died at like 5000k dmg

Should I put drape on twins to keep them alive?

[maiden marsh]

if you need rowan for the healing then there's not much to do about it ig

[candid flint]

Iput warek

And i dont use rosaline

[gaunt dragon]

Ight lemme try that

If not then ig I’m stuck at 1B :( for now

Basically the same dmg so yeah I’m stuck at 1B

[fair kayak]

Having a hard time dealing with all these high burst enemies

[gaunt dragon]

Use ainz instead of fae

Those lvls r tough and require a lot of trying over and over again with different variations

But ainz daimon might be ur best bet for getting quick and high dmg fast

[fair kayak]

my own ainz isn't really built at all 😭 don't wanna use my merc yet, will just keep trying lol

[royal stag]

Read pins in #classic-questions

[royal stag]

How many emblems u got for signature items

[strong aurora]

I Merced that stage, and was able to beat the rest of the chapter pretty easily. What a pain that was.

[charred wyvern]

Plz help

[raven fossil]

im stuck on 10-40, any tips?

[raven fossil]

try thoran top front, daimon bottom front, shemira at the back top, rowan in the middle and maybe silvina bottom back

[valid pier]

What's the ideal lineup for a PvP Alna/Grez comp? Oden Fareal and Daimon?

[maiden marsh]

Ideally, ferael silas athalia backline

No athalia, replace with oden

[valid pier]

I actually do have Athalia... Oh well, I guess Oden goes back to the locker room. Thanks

[patent heron]

probably put in oden and niru because you are fighting a lot of lightbearers otherwise i think your line up is good

[plush prairie]

Help!

[patent heron]

dont use so many graveborns wilders are stronger against them use anyothers

[patent heron]

u need healers tanks and an aoe/enemy control for the squad for that one

[eternal badger]

whjat should i try

[rigid imp]

brutus opposite thane, thoran opposite athalia
other slot is on you but don't put daimon frontline, belinda will burst him to death

[eternal badger]

thanks for the help but i beat it with that some llineup in the pictuer lol i was trying for so long earlier

[rigid imp]

lol

[vagrant ibex]

@charred wyvern using belinda fawked

@fair kayak try to dodge atha swing with ferael and used oden teleport

Rowan grez
Daimon fera oden

[pale kettle]

Hello guys can somebody say what team comp should i use with those heroes?im stuck at act 7 now

[slim warren]

Level up daimon as your carry

[pale kettle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/723851507245514772/897110479615451206/6wtfydzj4os71.png made by the epic @real schooner

[dull flame]

mod put this in the pins

[tight juniper]

Honestly. That's the best visually appealing beginner guide. I LOVE that effort into this

[gaunt dragon]

Help plz

[pale kettle]

This stage is giving me more trouble than mehira stages

[rigid imp]

maybe this
daimon

rowan
brutus
grez
ferael (don't give him any haste or weapon)

could be thoran instead of grez too

or maybe
oden/raku/merlin

rowan
brutus
daimon
ferael
if you believe that your daimon can do fine frontline

[pale kettle]

I’m a nutshell I die faster than 10 seconds

[pale kettle]

I mean if oden can do it ig daimon can too

[rigid imp]

well the champ here is ferael, he just have to fear fawkes fast enough so he wouldn't kidnap your daimon and leave him in 1vs5 fight

[pale kettle]

He got kidnapped

[rigid imp]

well that mean your ferael didn't fast enough, don't give him any haste or weapon, he will use his ability if you do that and ability mean slower fear ->daimon 1vs5

[pale kettle]

I didn’t give him any weapon

Oh yeah he also has call attached

[rigid imp]

yeah remove the call, give him eye instead

he want haste after initial attack, not before that

[pale kettle]

Okay got it thx!

[fresh raven]

Should i tag desi in or is rowen better til shes 3/9 or 9/9

For 1v1^

Also, if i do put her in swap arthur for ezio? Hes 30/9

I find higher success with Arthur without atm

[west walrus]

@fresh raven

My preference is former. Used Ezio as a failsafe. And the latter is the standard Ainz defense comp (however an opponent placing Merlin against your Ainz will almost nearly guarantee your loss)

Defense win that I got today at like 13 deficit with former comp ig. I used the former comp all HoE too

[fresh raven]

What does placing merlin across from ainz do?

[rigid imp]

ainz grav cycle will activate merlin retaliation i suppose

[west walrus]

TL;DR, when Ainz ults while Merlin ult is up, Ainz will do no damage to your team (given Merlin is opposite of Ainz)

[fresh raven]

I see ty

Is he better front row or back? Ive noticed he makes a good tank

[west walrus]

For defense, front row with Ezio, backrow if without Ezio. For offense backrow opposite of opponent Ainz.

[fresh raven]

Any good counters to this team besides the one ive been using?

Hes basically the only person who can compete w me, and it’s only bc of level advantage

And for this one as well please

[gritty ibex]

hi everyone i have a question, i have a daimon comp and i would like to know if it is daimon that i need to engrave

[maiden marsh]

chill on the daimon engraves, the mats are better spent elsewhere

[gritty ibex]

Ok but do u have a "tier list" for engraving ?

[maiden marsh]

Xapy posted one to reddit

[short badge]

I have it but its pixelated for some reason

[gritty ibex]

Ok ty

[sand parcel]

can someone help me with this cheese? I can't get it to work using afkhelper. I even have 9f

[patent hemlock]

I did this without 9f or 5* call, rng. Should be easier for you

Took me a couple hundred retries

[vagrant ibex]

@sand parcel

[sick oasis]

Who to put in the crystal idk

[short badge]

Daimon and Thorsan, take Grez out

[sick oasis]

Cool thanks

[kindred yoke]

Help...

[long vapor]

Is daimon worth engraving? I haven’t engraved anything yet (no ainz and no ascended hypolestial worth engraving)

[stray jungle]

@weak locust perhaps r3

[weak locust]

zolrath rowan rosaline mehira khazard
Chaos seraphic call book warden

[velvet mountain]

need help on this

[stray jungle]

uh ok, thanks

[mystic kayak]

Can someone help me with a good campaign comp?

[onyx delta]

Who should i use for lineup

Also have theowyn

[karmic shore]

tasi, respen, pippa in the back. daimon, izold in front

[karmic shore]

thoran, daimon frontline, shemira oden and silas in the back (silas middle)

[plucky laurel]

Help please (don't suggest me ainz comp for this one)

[velvet glade]

Hello I need some help I am stuck on 11-38 this is my hero list

[candid flint]

Can u send 11-38? @velvet glade

[velvet glade]

@candid flint

[candid flint]

I would sacrafice vedan and feed it to oden to make him mythic

Then i would lvl oden up as much as possible

[velvet glade]

Ok! I’m kinda all out on exp, I’m not sure if buying the packs for exp are worth it or if I would just run into more problems later

[candid flint]

Packs for exp uh what r u talking about

Did it work?

[plucky laurel]

Don't sacrifice vedan

[velvet glade]

The 5 dollar packs with 36 hours of exp

[plucky laurel]

Your crystal level will demote to 140

[candid flint]

No dont buy it

Then try oden instead of tasi

[velvet glade]

I still get rekt

[plucky laurel]

Maybe switch between rowan and mirael?

Rowan at 4 is very useful

[candid flint]

I had brutus instead of lucius

[velvet glade]

Switching Rowan and mir did more damage but still got floored

[plucky laurel]

Tasi instead of vaden

[velvet glade]

I am one copy away from making Lucius ascended. Is that worth it at all? Game kept throwing copy of him at me

[candid flint]

Uh well he falls off later

But good for early progrrssion

Did u have oden across saveas

[plucky laurel]

Even if you get one more copy of him, you won't have him ascended

You need another L+ fodder

[velvet glade]

Oh damn

[candid flint]

Yeah

[plucky laurel]

Don't even think about using rowan as fodder, biggest mistake you can do

[velvet glade]

Yes oden across saveas

Could it be im just too underleveled and lack powerhouse like daimon?

[plucky laurel]

Probably

[velvet glade]

I see most people who are stuck behind this level are nearly twice as much level as me

Player level”

So I’m assuming I have reached the cap of where I can possibly go?

[plucky laurel]

Probably not,

And you should retry using the same formation

Might work

[velvet glade]

Nvm I beat it with thoran lmao

Are there any teams you can suggest I can focus on getting now I’m kinda lost on what to build

[onyx delta]

Flora?

[valid comet]

What can i do for splitting team 3 into 2 teams?

[pale kettle]

Hey guys, im stuck at 36-48 at the second stage, always Thoran and my Flora left vs enemy Flora at the end and then she oneshots them both..

sometimes my flora only survives and the enemy one

[compact gust]

Hey everyone I'm stuck on 18-28 I'm only 3 weeks in any advice from heros I have?

[onyx delta]

What lineup should I use now?

[sick loom]

the comp that i used for that stage

[robust arrow]

I got a daimon comp I really like, but looking for a second lineup with Lucretia for 31. Any suggestions

[vagrant ibex]

Do wilder and nara
Lyca lorsan
Lucre eiron nara

[devout path]

Just do Luc pull

[robust arrow]

What's that, Eirron, Lucretia, Safiya and something

[vagrant ibex]

Safiya dont needed since ..sometimes brutus for a minute tank

[sick loom]

The core it's lucretia, eironn, skriath (needs 3f)

[robust arrow]

don't have Skriath to A, I could HCP it I guess.

[onyx delta]

can anyone help me with lineup i am stuck in chapter 5

[robust arrow]

Post your box Shivam.

[onyx delta]

i replied to the box

[sick loom]

yeah definitely, get him A asap + his 3f

[onyx delta]

Here @robust arrow

[elfin cloak]

wat stage u stuck on lol

[onyx delta]

5-20

[elfin cloak]

idk wat that is lol

wat enemeies

[vagrant ibex]

Lorsan nara can do skriath job dats why i suggest dat team

[robust arrow]

Daimon, tasi, Rowan, silas izold probalby is your best bet. I woudln't have levelled your team the way you did. You want Daimon as far as head of your team as a carry as possible.

Daimon/Izold in fronst, Rowan in middle with silas/tasi on either side.

[onyx delta]

i got rowan and silas just now

and wukong also from event

i dont have dust to ascned daimon

[robust arrow]

ah. Then Daimon. Izold up front, with tasi /poppi and probably the healer chick in the back. Might want to re-work your crystal to def get rowan in there, and maybe silas.

[elfin cloak]

healer chick?

[onyx delta]

so my formation is now izold front up,daimon front below and back from to to bottom tasi rowan and silus

daimon got asceneded now

had enough dust

[floral cargo]

Usually people put lineups like this
Hero
Hero
Hero
Hero
Hero

Its easier to visualize that way

[onyx delta]

i am new here 😅

[floral cargo]

Yeah yeah just telling you, it’s easier to visualize lineups like this

[onyx delta]

tasi izold

cant put space in pc i guess

[floral cargo]

Tasi (shift+enter)
(Space) izold

[onyx delta]

tasi
izold
rowan
daimon
silas

lol completed 5-20 with 0 deaths. thanks everyone 😄

[floral cargo]

Ggs

[onyx delta]

2 healers too strong

[pale kettle]

Istg athalia

[hidden cobalt]

Need help making 4 teams

[sick loom]

luc 5 pull
ainz comp
alna gb
thoran cheese

[hidden cobalt]

I have trouble with thorns cheese as I don’t have 5* call nor do I even understand the set up for it

[pale kettle]

Need some good Line ups for chapter 37

[pale kettle]

You can set up a charm comp too

[pale kettle]

Heros?

[hidden cobalt]

When I try charmizard they just die lol

[hidden cobalt]

I don’t understand who to put besides khazard and a e+ mehriah

[pale kettle]

Raku

[sick loom]

rowan and raku

last slot u can flex lyca/brutus/rosaline

[pale kettle]

Idk man you have completely different heros from me

[pale kettle]

Really haha?

[hidden cobalt]

You also said ainz comp what is ainz comp lol I only just recently got mine to useable 9/9 and an albedo who else goes in that comp like arthur?

[sick loom]

yeah, you can also put any support tbh, like merlin, pop, tasi etc

[pale kettle]

Ainz albeto Merlin Arthur and nimusu for fast ult without rowan

[pale kettle]

My heros

[hidden cobalt]

Who do I have Rosa follow ?

[pale kettle]

Oh yeah i See

[pale kettle]

Like this and Rosa on mehira

[sick loom]

and raku needs +30 tho

[pale kettle]

Not for cc

Did someone else have good Line ups for me?

Not until you get thoran 30 dude

[hidden cobalt]

Yeah look I don’t have a 30 raku and I’m working on 30
Albedo

So this comp ain’t working for me but this comp did I had perma cc between tasi and mehirah

Khazard eff work with tasi banishment+ her sleep ult?

[pale kettle]

This is best hero btw

[hidden cobalt]

How does nimisu work into ainz comp that’s the totem guy right lol?

[maiden marsh]

he buffs ainz's attack speed and haste, quickening his ult

he's a rather outdated flex though

[pale kettle]

Yeah he gives a haste buff to the strongest hero

[hidden cobalt]

Well he might just have to work for the time being lol what kind of investment does he need ?

[pale kettle]

10 sig at most

[maiden marsh]

15 sig

[fast imp]

What is the best combo for this?

[pale kettle]

Oden grez shemira vedan ira

[grand perch]

Hello @fast imp,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[short badge]

@pale kettle

[ashen orbit]

Need help for Kane boss. My Grez always die mid battle. what am i doing wrong? artifacts are Eye for Grez/Talene and Call for Daimon

[warm maple]

Need some help

[pale kettle]

As long you keep the WL from #classic-questions you'll be fine
I can rly recommend checking afk.helper frequently for meta clears ( lowest level ) of your current chapter

It's pinned here

[violet knot]

I've tried almost every combination I can think of. I only have those 10 heroes to choose from

I'll appreciate some advice on formation to beat them

[pale kettle]

2 dim + 3 mauler. Find the right positioning

[valid comet]

What would be my best 3rd and 4th team possibly? Thoran cheese + fereal daimon variant?

[compact gust]

Any help yo get past this stage

[umbral whale]

Try replacing Lucius with Brutus and oden with nara

[compact gust]

Sweet thank you !

[short badge]

Thanks broo

[restive dagger]

I'm doing The Dismal Descent on Peaks of Time and I still help

[rose tundra]

What could i do so i can find a way to beat this stage

With alot of rng i can beat the first 2 stages

I thought of getting a merc but idk who

[rose lake]

Who do I use for campaign I can't beat it

[storm wraith]

What is the best lineup that I can do right now? Considering the fact that I don't have the ascension character needed for the certain elites

[worldly apex]

read pinned guides in #classic-questions

[vestal grail]

eironn probably good back middle, nemora in the back, thoran front, rowan frontline as well and behind rowan is something like hogan until u get a better tank

eironn and lucretia can be switched out imo

[novel robin]

Hi, I just started. I have Wukong and Thoran and I was wondering if they were good later?

[elfin cloak]

well wukong is good very early game but is useless past lvl 100

[grand perch]

Hello @rose lake,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[empty pulsar]

@novel robin check the pins here and in #classic-questions :)

[karmic shore]

merlin ainz daimon grez ferael?

[delicate ibex]

Would anyone be willing to give me team recommendations for 36-60? I've been trying to use afk helper but it seems like I don't have the right heroes built :( here are my heroes and the teams I need to beat. I can luci cheese any of the 5 fights if needed.

[pale kettle]

last fight of newest ToG, any tips?

[dull flame]

Just put ainz albedo and Arthur in....

[pale kettle]

ainz albedo arthur doesn't do shit this ToG. it's all ezio 1v9

[dull flame]

Uh sorry why? Haven't done it yet?

[pale kettle]

90% damage reduction if you don't have faction advantage + other defensive buffs

[dull flame]

Plop ainz and albedo with 3 heroes from the same faction

[pale kettle]

i don't think you understand. ainz is doing 10% damage and every time you kill a hero the rest become stronger + regain 70% hp

[dull flame]

....

[dull flame]

Maybe thoran in position 5 by himself+ kelthur? His taint ability might be able to kill one person

[vagrant ibex]

Its easy if you have energy cycle team

@delicate ibex
1 lucretia
2 ainz
3 eiron 5 pull safiya
4 rowan mehira rosa
5.fera oden talene

[delicate ibex]

ill try that, thanks so much!

[pale kettle]

Grez is attached to ainz

[vagrant ibex]

@pale kettle
Rowan brutuz
Daimon oden ferael
Try to dodge atha

[pale kettle]

But I win w/ this

[sturdy mango]

Anyone have any advice?

[devout oyster]

@real schooner

once i can ascend more ik ill go up alot but rn ive thoran cheesed like 11 chapters and recently got tasi

the athalia just dives the back middle so whoever i put there just kinda dies

[real schooner]

You're missing out on a lot of Daimon's carry potential without his +20. If you can +20 him, please do, that alone might be enough for the stage, but I can't guarantee it.

I'm checking some clears on AFK Helper, and Daimon +20 on the front seems to be the way to go. It keeps him safe from Athalia. You see a lot of people putting a Lyca or Lorsan in spot 4 because they assume spot 4 will just die, and Lyca and Lorsan will both do their job in the first 1s of the battle.

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=60#

[devout oyster]

my daimon is +13 rn unfortunately

[real schooner]

Also, try not to get more of Shemira's furniture. She's a really junk hero, but since you have her, you can try using her maybe in the backline where either Thoran or Belinda are.

[devout oyster]

i just got it super early from bad luck tbh

[real schooner]

You don't get furniture that's not on your wishlist unless you didn't make the wishlist lol. Here's the recommendation:

(22nd September 2021 - downgraded Eironn and Izold to 3)
Bok's Guide for Beginner Furniture Wishlists. The initial 9s should stay on. Swap the rest around depending on your current ascensions (ask if you're unsure).
Use red cards on Grezhul > Lucretia/Ainz/Skriath > Merlin.

Initial furniture wishlist for beginners
Ainz 9, Grezhul 9, Lucretia 9, Merlin 9, Thoran 9 (reduces RNG because I advocate going for early event 5* Call frags. if you're willing to put up with more retries, then stop at 3), Albedo 3, Skriath 3, Daimon 3, Arthur 3, Ferael/Tasi 3
Once anyone reaches their target, swap these in (not necessarily in order) - Ferael/Tasi 3, Raine 3, Kren 3, Raku 3, Silas 3, Desira 3, Nemora 9, Ferael 9, Silas 9, Kren 9, Oden 9, Alna 9, Brutus 3, Estrilda 3 (Dark Nemora TR) > Gwyneth&Morrow 3 (LB tower), Tidus 3 and Skreg&Antandra 9 (Mauler tower), Eironn 3 (Wilder tower), Izold 3 (GB tower)
By the end of that list you should have developed enough game sense to make your own calls after that and do what you want depending on what your goals are (e.g Campaign/AE/PVP).

[devout oyster]

well id do ainz but i dont have him

[real schooner]

Even if you don't have the hero yet, it's fine to put them on and collect

But regardless, I don't really see much you can do with your comp that will win aside from getting Daimon to +20

[devout oyster]

isnt ainz never coming back tho?

[real schooner]

Maybe try: Daimon, Thoran, Rowan, Lyca, Shemira

You can garrison Ainz to get him.
#classic-questions message

That comp suggestion is built more around Daimon +20, but with enough retries you might be able to get <+20 to work

[devout oyster]

tbh not sure what that means

i just started playing again after a while

[real schooner]

You can also try swapping Shem for Talene, Isabella (since you have her), or Tasi in your list

[real schooner]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/m2wkwb/full_guide_garrisoned_mercenaries_the_new/

[devout oyster]

is that new?

[real schooner]

In your friends list, there's a tab on the bottom for "garrison." As long as one of your friends or guildies owns Ainz, you can garrison him from them. Yes, it's a brand new system!

[devout oyster]

oh nice i see here now

[real schooner]

The garrison rental lasts for 30 days, and you get him completely brand spanking new as though you own him. You link him to whoever you want, put whatever artifact on him, etc. When you re-garrison even if it's from a different person, you'll get "your" copy back.

[devout oyster]

so is it still temporary?

[real schooner]

Once you garrison any dimensional 6 times, it no longer costs resources to re-garrison

You convert guild/lab/hero/challenger coins into garrison stones and you spend the garrison stones (100 each) to rent the hero 6 times. After 6 times, it's 0 stones to garrison, so basically as long as you have a friend with the hero, then you have them for free.

[devout oyster]

do i also get whatever ascension level they have or i do it on my own?

[real schooner]

You get to do it yourself. You link the hero to whoever you want

[devout oyster]

is there an area to post ability ideas for devs

i had one when i got back on

[cursive cloak]

Help pls

[real schooner]

#classic-suggestions

[devout oyster]

talene wukong front

athalia to kill shemira twins at the bottom and either flora or the other one idk the name at the top

alna

[real schooner]

can try Alna in front too. 300 Alna is a junker Brutus

[cursive cloak]

@devout oyster what’s artifacts pls and thanks

@real schooner I’ll try it

[devout oyster]

twins need duras eye, talene can have the blade

[real schooner]

@devout oyster I'm gonna head back to #classic-questions now, good luck!

[devout oyster]

how do i make the suggestion

[real schooner]

Checked the pinned messages in the channel for the post format

[devout oyster]

okay

[real schooner]

You should probably post this in #classic-questions

[boreal river]

Oh ok sure

[real schooner]

You didn't do anything wrong, but not too many people check this channel, and it's more for asking about a lineup for a specific stage. You'll get more answers in questions

[boreal river]

People here seem helpful enough haha 😛

[novel robin]

Any ideas how I should use? I'm super early Game

[devout oyster]

wukong will be ur carry for a while

[novel robin]

And the other spots?

[worldly apex]

read pins

[warm maple]

Get rid of all them common heroes you can do that at the rickety cart you'll see it at them bottom and click automatically retire common heroes

And go to questions and read the pinned guides very helpful

Any suggestions? I've tried many different comps and I can't figure this one out

[devout oyster]

daimon, thoran, lucious, lyca, rowan

1, 2, 3, 4, 5

[sick oasis]

Who to put in crystal got 1 space

[sand parcel]

anyone got any clears i can do for this thoran stall? my characters always die when kelthur, talene, and thoran respawn

[grave shuttle]

How long did you stayed on chapter 34?😅