#lineup-help
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Charming Khasos should be the best
Well, its not a lot about energy, it's more about the haste
uh idk! shes at e+ lmao, 200lvl
It depends on level not tier
she gives 70, at 201 she will give 100
When ur lyca has more cp than my entire box
Yeah, I know. I've been there too 
Lol I’m happy I got my first 1M hero
Brutes first slot and fish guy second slot up front mireal in mid abs Rosaline and rowam support
If doesn’t work change the placement
I was gonna say they got absolutely destroyed
Help pls I’m stuck
You stuck because you wasted fodder to make those legendary instead of saving for a mystic+ daimon that can hits level 180
^^^^
Read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
ima need sum help 🙏
Box?
man i am 😭i just cant send two pics together
daimon slot 2 brutes (if he doesn’t work try albedo) slot 1 ainz slot 4/mid Rose with daimon
@opaque drift
Rowan btw I’m 19-4 so if this doesn’t work not my fault
dw i won it used this
That’s what I said for u to use ez I’m soooo unbelievable good at this game
no worries brother, i appreciate the help
facts , thank you 🙏
Ight
Show the stage @sick oasis
Have you tried out Gwyneth on that stage yet? Putting her backmid with Dura's Eye is good
Also put Dura's call on Shem, Dura's Grace on Lucius
she gets eaten alive more or less 1 shot haha
tryed to level it al up out of supplys now
Could you make Mirael Your highest Level hero and put Dura's call on her while she's backmid? She's an amazing carry for early game
You can reset heroes with the rickety cart in ranhorn
I don't know if you'll resources will support this but your Resonating crystal level might be lower after doing so.
Use the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions , it has some tips about formations for early game
oh i didnt get the artifact yet
Oh, that's fine ig
Also after a bit and you feel hopeless, since you're still early game, you're safe to start afresg on a new server in hopes of getting Daimon after using all codes
Nope, it's located in the server section after clicking on your profile picture ingame
got eironn x2 and numisu @warm yew
if i sent my box here, can u guys help for PvP for HoE?
Please tell developers to nerf brutus he alone kill my entire team
This might be too tiring but go for daimon, he is a monster
how many servers can i be on lol @warm yew
I think its 100 per account
oh how many attempted will it take roughly
There's no statistics, is just luck. Dont forget the wishlist tho
Something like Diamon Thoran Rowan Nara Any should work. Also the level 5 heroes in your box drive me insane
How i beat 20-21?
Lineup on 2nd image, sorry that taken when in 20-1 or something
can you post the enemy lineup as well (as in the current stage)? this might confuse people trying to help you
Enemy lineup. 20-21
try switching eironn and daimon and use lyca in place of rosaline if you have one
Help pls 😦 I’ve tried so much
Also don’t worry about the team I have there it was just my last hail merry lol. If you need to see units lemmi know
ferael
thoran
rowan
daimon
brutus
for ferael: remove his weapon so he use initial fear faster and hopefully he will fear tasi so she won't banish daimon at the start
Remove his weapon o.O okay
Hello there, I'm looking for some help on building team for HoE pvp season, I was D1 with some difficulty last season, wanna make it to master this one, here's my roaster and the team I'm currently using : ( check link )
https://imgur.com/a/gO6Nsua
https://i.imgur.com/HK9b2y6.png
https://i.imgur.com/7JbTZXW.png
hey guys, im also looking for help making pvp teams for hoe if someone could help. im in gold 3 right now
A lot of retrys but paint boi got his ultimate off and it was gg thanks guys
@warm yew done bro
congrats, yesterday we were talking about ch 22 stuff xD and now we're ch23, gj
Thanks guys 🙂
need help on team building xD
hi anyone willing to help me with line-up stuck on 9-38
hi @clear bough, is there a reason you have Shemira L ? Maybe you had her first then you built Daimon ?
yes "D
Once you get Daimon to L+, you'll be able to roll on chapter 9. Meanwhile I would try :
Rosa,
Daimon
Wukong
Shemira
Rowan/Twins/Nemora/Arden
Shemira here is just acting as a tank
my plan when i got daimon was to use shamira to make him after L+ otherwise i will try that comp and siwtch shamira for gwen cus i got enough copies today to make her L+ (if that will work still new to the game)
@clear bough I wouldn't use Shemira as food for Daimon to make him L+ to Mythic. Keep her. In the meantime, it's best to build heroes that come from blue cards (non ascended heroes)
i stuck at 12-24. any ideas about teamcomp?
noted thanks for help
@fathom widget as soon as you get daimon to L+, he will become really powerful because you can instantly put him to M+. Keep farming for him
that's really what's bottlenecking you at the moment. You're missing 1 copy I can see !
i need to end chapter 12 to get him to L+
thats why its pain
have you tried a comp with Rowan in it and Daimon frontline so that Daimon can ult first ? Honestly there's not much you can do, your carry hero should always be 30-40 levels more than your other heroes. But here in your situation you're stuck. You just need to be patient and continue trying whilst you wait for your last daimon copy
well, your next daimon copy.
@fathom widget don't worry too much, AFK ARENA is about being patient and waiting.
daimon is really squishy right now thats the problem
ill try idk 30 tries with him on the front
@fathom widget here's what you can try : Put Mirael to lvl 160, and other hereos to lvl 120.
Rosa
Golus
Mirael
Rowan
Arden,Wukong, Silvina, Daimon
use Mirael as your carry whilst you wait for Daimon
don't know if Rowan front line is good, he probably dies instantly. But if his potion can help mirael ult faster, then you should be ok
don't worry about reseting heroes, it only costs 20 diamonds, no sweat about it
btw after i get last daimon will it be worth to get him m+ instantly and lose fodders?
need help on this stage, or am I just too weak?
and put him as max level as possible
@umbral whale I would put Daimon lvl 200 instead of Rakku, he should work better. Also, you'll get faction bonus with +% hp
@violet igloo got mirael 160 and i have exp elft. Who to lvlup?
daimon? golus?
idk if it changes anything but i got new hero
I ended up clearing the stage thx, actually I used both raku and daimon lmao
Probably golus. Mirael is your damage dealer now, not Daimon. Higher level golus will help with more tankiness
mirael doesnt even cast skill once. She dies too fast
Try moving her around, see if putting her frontline helps. Does she have Rosa following her?
Also you can try with Rowan so that he'll make her ult faster
@violet igloo i decided to fuck mirael and make that team. It worked at the 1st try. Daimon is still best for me to carry
no idea how to beat that stage, vedan always lives and fucks my team 1v5
I don’t know who’s be better for you, mirael or daimon, but I’d do thoran Rowan oden/Arden mirael/daimon lyca
nevermind i just beat it with some good rng and disabled auto, took like 80 attempts
Mirael
Thoran
Lyca
Daimon
Oden/Rowan
Glad it worked. Daimon is super strong for sure. Thoran is good choice. You can swap oden with Wukong too
any idea on this, 2 brutus + 2 isa -> 
(well if it won't work for a while then i'll merc a 309 luc and 5pull them)
U can try to use nara and pull ezizh,
I don't know how to beat this stage
No queen, what do i do
This is my last stage to get all towers to level 80+. Do I have the champs to do it?
I dont think that queen it's necessary, do you have prince?my alt team on this
Merc kren
Make daimons si +20 and get rowan to M and make his si +30
And dont gaze with diamonds
What to do
Dont have prince either, but thanks
What do I need to do with diamonds then?
Only do 2.7k 10 pulls
Do I need to do that untill rowan mythic or just always?
Cause someone told me to gaze for lucretia mythic
Only do normal summons or hcp when u unlock it until u have 4 4f heros at A
Pog
I ll try it thanks
I'm currently just generally rearranging my main team, currently I have Alna and Thoran in the frontline, and silas, daimon and Rowen behind them. I wanted to use the twins but I don't know who I'd replace to use them. Any ideas on general rearrangements ?
I also have Tasi, but she's not shown
Brutus is generally better for your Frontline bcs of his debuff, which would help daimon by a lot. Dunno why u have made thoran Silas m, instead of daimon m+ first, will pull you back for a while this, due to lvl cap . For daimon team, u bscly need Brutus front with something else, daimon rowan and lyca @crude hearth
Because thorans sig. is extremely valuable for him as a frontline
And silas was mostly because I didn't plan ahead too much, but his sig stops a lot of buffing from happening on the enemy team
Yet, your carry its not even +10
Daimon si 20, rowan si 30, get L+ fodder to get Daimon M+ and lvl 200
ideas for this ??
@regal valve mhm, u don't rlly need to pull Isabela, try Brutus albedo, lyca grez ainz
Someone got a idea?
isabella does most dmg tho
She does, but pulling won't cut much i guess. Grez will give you some magical def
Need help, I have no idea wtf is going on in this stage, there's some aoe all over the screen and everyone dies
Move raku down @umbral whale, and try oden front top
and lyca in place of raku?
Yeah, try like this once or twice
The one thing I have figured out is that this is a big statcheck for my raku, basically he needs to dodge quite a few times in a row and crit
morvus problem 
so why is it that my luc works best if i just put random celepos beside her than with actual build champs?
Bcs of her kit. They dies faster, so she gets stronger faster
And hypos actually are giving insane buffs when x2, 3 etc
the old man kills oden in a single hit and estrilda tramples over raku, dont think this would work
Well, try without oden, make it daimon Brutus front to see. U may need rowan middle, so try a Backline like rowan ferael raku
give your oden the call, he will tele estrilda away faster
and remove lyca for daimon, morvus will smoke all your team without enough dodge
saveas is dangerous but brutus can hold him for a while, but morvus aoe is insane 
Some stages he is, yeah
mhm, daimon cant frntline eother tried it, wtf is that old man's problem XD
Well, u can nara him
yeah I tried it before
It's complicated, I can tell you why. You don't have a strong Frontline. I always worked for rowan and another tank
that's when you realize that enemy 3s is super insane,
they even stronger than 4s for some reason 
yikes nothing seems to work here, i got super close twice wjere raku dodged lke 100 times in a row but he lost 1 v 1 to estrilda
What artifact are you using on raku? Maybe put call on ferael also
i would try to get your raku to 220
call on ferael, eye on raku
maybe my levels are a problem here, enemy team is more than thrice my power 
Daimon should be better, here. Since 4 lbs
well daimon still get wreck if you can use correct formation there 
i tried it, he cant get to his ult
Just try to suicide raku. Raku Brutus front. Backline lyca daimon rowan
i would do this
oden
thoran
ferael
brutus
daimon
and hopefully that thoran can knockdown raine before she knockdown daimon and interrupt his ult
lmao raku is the last man standing, daimon needs to ult once :((
Well, rowan pots are random, try again
does rowan need good gear? mine is not good
Mhm, try eironn vs ezizh with call. But the eironn enemy it's gonna pull you. I usually used something to cc and cancel the pull
if you want him to actually tank then you will need maxed t2 wp and boots, otherwise any gear work
Welp that didn’t work
am I at the point where 160 crystal is just too low?
It makes no diff, it's all about your carry, others are just buffers or so
Maybe u just need raku 3/3 tbh
Card it
Is it worth using card for him? I have saved up 2 and have 1 piece of furniture on him
like I dont wanna regret it later and I am not desperate to get the ulmus copy from ch23 completion xD

I’m nearing the first multi fight in campaign, are there two teams I should lean towards? I was thinking a GB team and then Albedo + Ainz +++
Any ideas?
Swap fera with Ainz or daimon maybe.
It's morvus instead of silvina you ape
@rigid imp@brave orioleFinally done but at what cost
im stuck lol
Ehh, it's different for me. I'm not even trying more than 20 30 times without adjusting my team. Never used a macro tho..
Updated wishlist please
well my team isnt strong enough XD and I am very impatient, i need that ulmus copy from chpt 23 so bad
daimon in frontline......with a saveas....
I meant the first photo
you don't put daimon frontline if there's heavy burst
also what's up with the albedo?
neither are proper tanks.......
mkay, here's a team
daimon
thoran
rowan
lyca
oden
sure
help with 10-16?
daimon and shemira swap positions, hendrik out for lyca
hendrik?
fck, hogan
none the less i don’t have lyca :(
show me heroes
Put arden and zeus on crystal and use them
damn i just used my last spot on grezhul
with a silvina targeting mages?
What's a good line up for what I have. Got to 5-1 but have been starting to struggle
New to the game and need help with making a lineup for my campaign
@pale kettle What is killing you? Arden? See if eironn can pull?
Fereal
Thoran
Lyca/Tasi
Daimon
Eironn
Or even Lyca for Thoran and Tasi mid. Idk if Thoran is adding much here. Lyca to pop haste, Tasi to get a lucky banish off
I need good lineup for earlygame with gb monoteam... Can i do something decent with this?
you don't mono faction at early game, works on your synergy
1 core carry + 2 support + 2 front tanks
read pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
I know about it but this is just my alt acc on test server, so i want to try gb monoteam on it
if you have a general idea about it, then you can stick with it
it could be challenging tho, especially without daimon
I waiting till i will get him
don't forget nara too
Why her?
i thought you have basic knowledge and general idea about how it works before making a mono team...
you don't stick with fixed mono team....
nara and ferael is very strong to counter opponent hero
especially core carry / crowd control / healer etc
So ferael, nara and daimon...
i think you should stick with regular comp...
full mono won't work on high deficits (level gaps and might rating etc)
just read the beginner guide...
it tells everything you need to know on basic level
and ask again when you stuck on certain level
Most times Tasi, Izold, Nemora live, sometimes Izold and Nemora die but I can't kill Tasi
Need a new formation, just started ch25 so this is eh
best teams for HoE?
@warm yew just keep daimon your carry at 240.ainz it's useless without albedo
Alr ill try that
@strong aurora 25-6
Yeah unfortunately I don't have daimon to ascended. I have enough copies to mythic but that's it
mythic is all he needs, the great thing about daimon is that he gets his sig when he hits mythic, and he scales his damage and other stats through the enemies. So even at low ascensions he dishes out more damage than normal carries
Is it gonna be better than my ainz. 1 star e30 full t1 gear. As my carry
Any idea for this boss ? Or Maybe i'm low lvl
sometimes yes, if ainz doesn't have an albedo +30 and if ainz isn't +30 or 9f
Ainz and albedo are both si20 and both only 2 furn
+20 makes no difference for both ainz and albedo, and ainz needs 9f. So yes, daimon might do more damage than him. Just try the team, it might work
I'll have to get fodder to make diamon mythic. Is it worth possibly setting back other gb ascensions. I have 7 copies of fearel and 7 copies of izold atm with 1 hcp left. And only 5 copies of diamon.
I already have grez,thoran,Oden and Silas ascended
Daimon>Oden>Silas>Fereal
What is mythic cap, 200?
180 @strong aurora
???
fawkes out for rosaline, make her follow shemira
Well my crystal is only at 200 atm so idk if that will work. I should have ainz to 240 tonight
send your heroes
go for it. Ainz is fine if you have albedo, brutus, lyca, and silas in the team
That's my current box
I should add, albedo +30 before ainz @strong aurora
I kinda just been working with what the game gave me. For some reason it really didn't want to give diamon copies. I got my 5th from that puzzle event
In 12 days hcp resets for me. So I can grab 2 more copies that way
yeah, took a year to ascend on my main, and 5 days on an alt
After I did thoran. I swapped in izold and it literally gave me like 6 copies in 2 days
But I've had diamon on wishlist since I started lol
what rank are you?
almost diamond 3
show me your current teams
both defense and attack?
ye, defense first then attack
defense don't hurt me
what the fck are you doing with your teams
yeah these are random crap teams
these are kinda random since i got these at the start just to defend never changed then
I've made it to diamond 3 with pretty much just defense wins
that's what i did all the seasons lol diamond 3 all the time out of luck and defense
Ainz
arthur
merlin
rowan
albedo
team 2: 5 pull
safyia
skriath
eironn
tidus(get.him.3/9 ffs)
lyca
team 3: Daimon cc team
daimon
thoran
feral
prince
raku @fleet thistle
ty, u sure merlin even if he's not +30 or 9f
yes, merlin is better than no merlin, these teams work both offensive and defensive, I'll come up with 2 others for when you hit diamond 3
on attack against ainz what do i use
Would u mind helping with a lower tier setup for hoe?
dm me heroes
ainz vs ainz, if their ainz has 9f merlin or fereal you might not win, so be weary of that
and 5p vs 5p? his has luc tho i should be able to win the first 2
best not to then, sometimes it can work tho
his ainz is shit 103 
then go for it
nice

hehe you'll get there
for reference lol....
What rank puts u over 3 teams
Diamond.
I do recommend luc before alna, but your choice
go go go!
Im gold 3 or 4 now. I can fair pretty well here then randomly 8 people who are like 160 lvls above me will best me in a row lol
I'm guessing it's people who haven't progressed yet. Because they are significantly stronger than my when I look at them having 15 ascended heros to my 5
just wait for almost the end of the event and push you find weaker people that's what i did everytime, have to get lucky tho
I did finish 2nd in regular pvp in the server on I'm on 2x now
that's the good thing about new servers, my top 50 is all whales
I did spend a little bit to
yesss do that
Nice I'll keep any eye out
What server you in?
277
Do your "free" hoe turns stack it u don't use them daily
wow your a lot older than me.....
Ok all I've been doing is the free ones anyways but I get alot it seems. Like 8 or 10
im level 206, i was off for like 5 months tho, about 2 years of play
think it's 10. Refresh as much as you can too
makes sense
and i see server 900 people stronger than me 
rip
im in server 225 and its big pain, i cant do shit in pvp
I think I'm on server 900
Yea I'm on s900
im stucked on chapter 8 in level 16, what can i do?
Yeah that's tough without someone to grab the middle mage. And that other ranger killing your mages off the start
yes, im stuck on the king`s tower too D: im in lvl 99 and i cant win it
U have nara or eironn?
i think i dont have them
I just got into diamond on this account. But I've been using ainz comp and lucretia + Alna + god core to beat most enemy teams. Is there any viable pvp teams I can build with what I have? (couldn't get mehira or khazard to work in much, but they're some of the only heroes invested in)
Lineup ideas? Able to grab a merc if needed
All others i can pass. Just that one that I’m hard stuck on
your supposed to 3 man this with 5* call on thoran and kelthur....
lorsan
empty
empty
thoran
kelthur
I was going off this one
do you have 5* call?
Is this rngable?
merc a 5* call kelthur
your raine isn't 3f
So you think if it’s that shes not 3fn that i can’t do it? I can use red cards for it rn
yes, 3f increases damage, but don't use cards for it for now. Merc a kelthur that has 5* call, the rng lowers so much
Alright thank you
np
watch thoran's gear too
not legendary, mythic...
Yeah havnt been able to get m yet for the helm
I only built him recently 😅 still not perfect
....
then just take off the legendary thing, it isn't helping at all
I know this is 2 and a half years late, but you don't want to place belinda in the middle, she can't hit as many targets. Putting her on position 3/5 would be better.
I feel like I've tried everything trying multiple times for rng. Taking suggestions
not anymore
look at afk helper
Tried a bunch of ways but can’t seem to get it.
Where is that?
It didn’t help :/ all those people have higher levels than me
@south cliff brutus, estrilda, tasi, silvina, bel
@feral mountain use your own estrilda to push enemies to kren mines. Give kren call. Lyca can be on frontline instead of rowan.
I just beat it dw the next stage has me fucked up
What is the line up I should use for champain like the a squad coz I'm not to sure got tank and damage dealer then rest idk I'm just guessing would love some help
someone help me please
Help plox
ok move your daimon to position 2 and swap your brutus with lyca then position lyca in spot 3
@proud estuary
Hey all, i need some help with 5 team battles for heros of esperia, here are my heros
1. Arthur Albedo Ainz Merlin Prince
2. Skriath Safiya Lucretia Eironn Tidus
3. Talene Izold Farael Hendrik Pippa (will throw Izold in the middle and get invulnerability)
4. Twins Saurus Ezizh Rowan Tasi
5. Brutus Wukong Daimon Lyca Athalia
appreciated greatly
Anytime 🙂
Also, be sure to put ainz and 5 pull at the first 2 comps, you will either force your enemy to answer it or they will lose it, leaving you with a greater chance of winning
sounds good
You tryna get him to lose?
Dang, really went for the jugular. Any advice would be good
can you help me?
scroll up till you see the name paimon its not far just like a 2 second scroll
Ainz, gb (grez daimon fera Silas/oden athalia), luc cycle (luc Rowan twins tais/skreg ezizh), stall (thoran wukong talene flora skreg/kelthur), and Eironn burst (lorsan Eironn lyca Gwyn pop/estrilda)
- Arthur albedo ainz merlin ezio
- Lucretia twins skreg rowan ezizh
- Eironn prince gwyn lyca lorsan
- grezhul daimon athalia silas ferael
- Thoran talene kelthur flora tasi
Is the luc cycle really better than 5pull luc?
ight Im going to fix that hold up lol
Im too used to campaign
I have Alna 309 E30 should I be using she somewhere?
in alna GB presumably
I was doing Alna Grez Daimon before
is this for HoE or campaign?
HoE
alna grez/prince ferael silas oden/athalia
one of the top teams
though without athalia I'd rather run pure GB and put alna in burst
Yeah I dont have athalia
then you can run grez daimon oden silas fera for one team, then eironn alna gwyn lyca lorsan for another
two solid teams
What should I use instead of gwyn
budget burst is pretty rough without gwyn
What about raku
Too long
I mean he worked but I can take raku out. I just don't have Gwyn
Would it work with only SI10? Cause I have her, I just havent invested her
need help
Is this positioned correctly? Pvp defense
up your fodders rather than your heroes
After reading guides and pinned messages, I came up with this line-up is this good for early game?
what do you mean?
at early stages its better to ascend and level your fodders to max
oh cause of level cap?
yes
need help with beating story 8
reset wukong+ gwyn, make mirael 140 instead
yes
you dont want to stuck level 100 forever do you
my daimon is on e+, so am i gonna focus on him first and fodders next?
focus on daimon asap but dont ascend him unless you have him at 4 copies still follow the guide and make him SI20 and 3 furn ASAP
Can anyone tell me why Thali seems pretty unpopular? I've only started a day ago and made it to Tower Floor 80 and Chapter 7 (partway through) on the back of her, since I summoned her early. When I unlocked the popular formations I saw she is literally nowhere to be found. Is that, because she falls off drastically later? She is pretty solid, sure I got other choices like Shemira or Lorsan, which I did play around with, but keep finding myself going back for Thali, having way more success with her as she sometimes single handedly takes care of half the enemy team by herself when most others already died.
I'll send a screenshot of what I got after this.
Another question I have is this: After unlocking garrisoned units I was asking myself... is it worth spending a lot of resources into hiring Albedo? I really love her in the anime and would love to have her, but I am not sure when you can buy her and I'd only buy her for 50% off.
But if I understood it right I can hire her for 30 days and if I do that 6 times in a row I can hire her basically for free? As long as the person I hire them from doesn't already have her taken by 5 people. I'd hire her from someone in my guild actually.
Regarding the garrisoning, after the 6th rental it is free to rent, regardless of who owns or has her available
That's a great system for a gacha game honestly.
what is 3 furn?
Last enemy on ToG: Fallen Soul to unlock Shroud… can‘t get Orthos, Izold and Talene down
furniture in the oak inn
ahh ok
unlocks when c18 and 1 ascended hero
btw why shouldn’t i ascend him unless i have 4 copies?
you dont want your daimon to stuck 140 forever
Who should i +30 next? (Not thoran because thoran cheese is boring)
Raku > Silas imo
Why silas?
Gives 20% attack increase to all heroes who have more than 50% max health, great for many comps
Izold is also an option, but depends on chapter, cause he dies off after a certain deficit afaik. But still great for tower.
Chap 34
I think i'll go raku izold silas and do Arthur and albedo with cosmic things from lab shop
Sounds like a good plan to me!
maybe odin at some point too
i'll probably wait for graveborn's engraving to start upgrading si
so reset wukong and gwyn and just pump then into mirael only?
yeah, reset wukong+gwyn then make them to 100 only
after that all on mirael
okay thanks for the help
Help pls
Any help?
Try saurus in front of horse lady she's giving me problems too
Really not experienced with heroes not maxed and having limited abilities sorry. I would say look at the pinned messages and use the first website link to look at other comps
main lineup rn is daimon, mirael, arden, silas, wu kong, is there anyone i should replace?
I’m in chapter 9 and wu kong feels a bit weak xD
@drowsy locust
test
See you can speak, problem solved, you're welcome
Drop Wukong, level Golus, and put Brutus on your crystal
so i swap wu kong for brutus?
Yes
alright, thanks!
But don't directly level him, you don't want to be stuck at level 100
I just can't attach my box
Not just from copy-pasting, not through attaching file
Try that
what do you mean?
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seems like my heroes are too sexy)
Like how you're Silias is, you want to level people who start at blue since they can ascend faster and get a higher level cap sooner
Ah yeah that's annoying, Clyde doesn't like boxes so just scribble over it a bit
ohh, yeah i’m planning on putting him on rc
but cd
That's the correct thing to do.
Can someone please suggest me 1 or 2 teams for HOE, besides Ainz and Lucrecia 5 Pull
Yeah usually you just do something like this
Also have some heroes not in crystal, but for HOE they are available, so maybe consider them too
@ebon hazel can you take a look please if you have time?
I'd rather not, my pvp knowledge is absolute garbage
I got stuck on 6 -16 sorry I know it's still super early in the game.
Drop Gwen for Arden, and in general read the pins in #classic-questions
Thank you, I have read the pins. Is there a more indef guide?
Kinda stuck they put tasi frontline + that arden nemora are annoying
Oh shit nvm i got it with this somehow
Merc a good carry
merc ainz and izold/lucretia 309
ainz will carry you through most achievement, izold/luc can help you complete some achievement that ainz can't join
i want to change my team, but i want something that use daimon D: what can i use
Who to merc for this
if you followed the guide you should have that camp destroyed with the fire gun iirc
alr thanks
you should use Mira, Golus, Arden, Silvina and get them all to 160 or replace them if you have a carry at M or higher
check pinnged guides in #classic-questions
you will be max level gated with the units you have for a while and then not able to progress further
Who should I replace for heart carver
Get Daimon to M first, he’s a good carry that gets a lot of use from his SI
ok :D
help with 10-19?
Make Daimons si +20 asap
i dont talk english very good, what do you mean D:
Make this +20
U need him at mystic
yes, im working on making him mystic
U need 1 L+ fodder hero
Perfect then u have the best early game carry
im making this to L+, its okay right?
Yes
i dont know very well if im in early game, im in chapter 9 lvl 16 D:
how could i win this level?
try this: 1: brutus 2: lucius 3: satrana 4: solise 5: daimon
ok :D
daimon isnt great on the frontline u wanna keep him alive a lil longer he does a lotta damage good luck
yes, i do that D: i know he isnt good in frontline
okay good good
even with his shield could not fight that
yeah kaz is a problem for him there
i think that level is definitely winnable with ur levels
?
@pale kettle Putting wukong in instead of Lyca will probably help
It's just 10k power diff 
What’s Merc?
Imagine retrying and switch formations.
Nvm I ain’t wasting daimion
lol
wrong chat xd
Any tips? Tried farael instead of oden
Rowans si should be ur first +30
My Rowan si is at 20, so is daimon and oden, and thoran is at 28
Thoran is way to early for 30
Working on making thoran cheese team, regardless I never had enough to si30 Rowan
Im chapter 35-8 and never used thoran cheese
I was asking for lineup help anyway, because I’m gonna finish this chapter today I’m just stuck on this one stage
Maybe Swap thoran and rowan and put in nara/eironn
Nothing, actually didn’t work at all, the issue is my daimon keeps getting stunned by tasi
Are you dying because of shemera on the other team?
Take out Rosaline, move fareal to her then add Nara at the bottom so she hooks and stuns shimera
Then try it on tasi
No good
Get ready if you wanna push at any deficit
Hes 302 and i need 300 more call fragments
For 5*
Please help me with my line up I just started send me a dms please
What graveborn should I try to build idk if Lucius is the play
Lucius and your shemira will fall off very hard
shemira still pretty good rn
She may be good now but make sure not to heavily invest in her because it will later not be worth it
i already have lol
No just like don’t build up her SI or Furniture
Get your daimon to SI 20 and 3 furniture
i have shemira rn at 23 i think and daimon is at 29
Oof
how could i win this? im stuck in this level :c
I need help on 36-60
uhh
idk if this will work but try
arden
lucius
solise
brutus
daimon
prob wont work cuz its bad but idk
Brutus Lucius arden pippa daimon might work. if not, keep levelling daimon
in that order or.. .w.?
yes, 1-5
when you remove all your heroes and click on those heroes above they will go into their slot in order
Any idea for this stage? It kills me...
Who should i use on my team?
Make wukong your highest level hero, he'll help a lot
Make sure that you have tank
@gloomy loom you don't have athalia, right?
Sorry yeah I just got her to Ascend but still Si18/f2
send your box real quick so I know what i'm working with
no prince?
Unfortunately no 😭
manageable
Only got 5 dim so far
team 1: alna grezhul ferael silas athalia
team 2: merlin ezio ainz desira albedo
team 3: zolrath eironn zaphrael lyca lorsan
team 4: lucretia twins ezizh rowan tasi
team 5: thoran talene kelthur flora skreg
actually, do you have a flora?
Only at E+ 😅
nvm on team 5 then
team 5 can be skreg tidus kren skriath and a flex like nemora maybe
if you didn't catch on, team 5 isn't exactly your first line of defense
I'll update and test out and share the result, Ty!!
Forgot to mention I don't have Ezio 😅 anything I can replace him with?
how could i beat this level?
Ainz team becomes arthur merlin ainz desira albedo in that case
After 24 hours this is my team-
How is it considering im a beginner?
horrible
What could i do to improve it?
gottem!!
who to use as supports to a hired saurus in guild war
The 5 teams, is it usually fine to use them also for offense team? I'm trying to learn what team counter what if you have any thing you can point me to Read
generally yes, though sometimes you gotta get creative with what you use if your opponents are unorthodox
Sorry another question... My Oden isnt being utilized in any of the team, should we add him somewhere?
team 5 maybe; alna GB phases him out with the addition of athalia
Is there a better way to mix my heroes for 5 teams in HoE?
I need help pls
shemira at 23 isn't too bad, later on get her to 25 because she still has her uses outside of campaign, 25 will give her a stat boost but this is super low priority.
Shemira 25 doesn't give useful stats.
Can you help me with my heroes? I’m stuck on this chapter.
I change my setup on this. Feels better😃
What's your wishlist like?
Help me best this stage
Any help here?
Maybe nara/eironn for lyca
need help pls
golus instead of rowan and but daimon backline
Nooo
backline where?
down
just spam retry
How can I pass this?
read the pins in #classic-questions , change the wishlist
Lucretia cheese is the closest im getting help
Any recommendations
Thanks!.
@maiden marsh def teams doing some great work thanks to you!
Eironn isn’t going to do much without SI investment
What should be my 3 teams?
Eiron 5 pull , daimon ferael , ainzbedo ,thoran cheez , sauruz rowan energy cycle
@viscid canyon
Thoran brutus
Daimon rowan lyca or
Daimon thoran
Oden rowan lyca
@floral cargo it shud be easy with dat lvl
Thoran rowan
Fera nara/lyca/tasi daimon
Already did it, used a Lyca/Lucius/Rosa/daimon/rowan comp
I just started how’s my team and any hero I should look out for
Pls help
I just started playing afk arena, so it would be great if the pros help me out with the lineups
This is my current lineup
And these r all my hero's
Check the beginners pins up top/right. Your gonna want to use some specific people early to make it life easier down the road.
Need help fighting this team
how do i beat this D: im trying everything
Early game Vedan is unfortunately just a pure power check. If you don't do enough CC or damage, he will steamroll you every time. Unfortunately the first 18 or so chapters he will solo your entire team without breaking a sweat. Only solution I ever found was just to keep leveling until you just eventually win
How i can do it?
i have cc, but not as much as i would want
CC takes a lot of slots on the crystal to get well, and you're too early in the game to really have that space to spare. If you want pure CC you can put nara in when you have a space, she does an excellent job of CCing whatever you put her opposite of. Then just get an assassin to handle the little demon girl in back mid and you should have it.
i put nara in the middle to taking her, but she does not do too much
with what u have rn ur doing rly good, reccomend respen over angelo bc he's better in the long term anyways and hes not capped out at L+
try lyca in the front line facing grez, daimon top back row behind brutus, rowan is good where he is, use either oden or thoran in the back middle
ok ty
np, lmk if it works when against estrilda sometimes u gotta just stack tanks to face her and lyca sometimes gotta be sacrficed. Rowan here can be kinda awkward to fit in as well due to the enemy backline units
Could someone suggest me a decent lineup? I stucked at chapter 10.
Now I'm using Daimon, Thoran, Silas, Tasi and Oden
whats good to use for chapter 9?
It's too early to tell, keep using mireal carry, she's pretty solid early, and you could eventually swap to Gwyneth when you get enough copies of her to L+ and then feed your mireal to her. Reset your athalia and solise and start upgrading the fodder characters when you get enough dust. I suggest committing to one faction with the faction scrolls (probably LB since it seems you have the most Elite heroes of this faction) and keep upgrading and doing events. You're still very early on in campaign so anyone can help you climb (even fodder units). Hope that helps.
Hey, Could you check my lineup too, pls? It just before the one u analized. Thanks!
The team you're trying to build is fine but I'm pretty sure you're just waiting to hit the units. There's not too much to suggest asides from combine your characters XD and also remove walker from your WL unless you want him to meme. Keep pulling on those Graveborn banners and eventually you'll be unstuck
yeah thanks that actually helps alot man
Also using four of the same faction early means you'll have to wait a lot longer to get the food to ascend all of those characters, maybe replace Oden or Silas with a character from another faction (Morrow? Rose?) @silent dragon Probably oden since you want a healer and you're already using tasi for decent CC.
Honestly I dont really understand what would you like to say me about Oden. I'm using him atm. Should replace him for a healer? Even if I use Silas?
Nono I meant replace Oden with Morrow or Rose probably since you need silas for heals
Morrow would be nice since they are both control characters and then you wouldn't need as much graveborn food. Eventually you will build Oden but to progress faster early using different factions is a good way to make sure you don't get stuck as long.
Thanks!
Noob question but Rose=Rosaline? :D
And if I use her, who should be the she follows?
Yep Rose is Rosaline, and you would want her to follow Daimon since he will be your main damage dealer and carry for a majority of the game.
Okay, I will try it!
Help pls
elite+ skreg solos 
@vestal grail what does that mean? Lol
if i get a character that i like, could i level it up and put it in my team? or do i have to just use the guide on #classic-questions ?
that's drez
my bad they sound the same
Im a new player and was wondering what i should make my team into so i dont invest into something bad. Heres my heroes
Aslong as u don’t get a hero stuck at legendary you won’t do anything bad
can anyone help me form some good HoE teams? I've got a solid alna gb and ainz, but my third team is lacking. 4th and 5th never win. I'm not that good at making pvp teams so don't ask why charmizard is in there😂
first team is good
drop alna in the second team and sub ferael
turn the 5p into burst of eironn alna gwyn lyca lorsan
make a luc cycle team with luc rowan ezizh skreg twins
team 5 can be the leftovers, similar to how it is now
@rigid imp
I heed your advice and went all in on daimon, manage to progress till stage20 and ongoing
alna burst can beat zol burst as long as you put your alna across their eironn, luc cycle can pull off silly wins against stuff like burst as long as luc doesn't instadie, GB can deal with stall, alna GB, or weak cycles, and ainz can handle cycle stall or non ath alna GB
thank you Tru7h!
I’ve been using this comp to push campaign, any changes I should be making?
Luci would fall of eventually, you can use Lyca to boost for haste + 100 energy.
Thank you! I’ve been messing with her here and there and finding her boost extremely valuable
Just started playing, am wondering what people are good long term units. Along with the best option for a current team. Making them be what I dump resources and stuff on. Verses wasting jt.
@rancid zinc grez, rowan, thoran on long term units. Rowan can be used early game as well for his heals, and thoran as tank if nothing else. Recommended team compositions are stated in the pins in #classic-questions
Keep getting stunned, never have a good idea how to deal with Tasi+Ferael combo tbh
Can someone help me make a team
Read the pins
It’s says line up help
try this
daimon
brutus
rowan
thoran
ferael (use remove weapon trick)
rng chance start if your ferael fear both tasi+ferael
I need help with this
Any reason why you don't want to reset that arden, lucretia, zikis, etc?
Not really
Can pump those lvls to your daimon instead. And then to the rest of your 4 heroes. That'll raise the cap of your entire roster then
My RC is capped atm until I can ascend my 3 reds to M+
Daimon to 240 then. Heck even thoran since your have him ascended already.
Okay
I can't because I need my reds to 200 but can't because 2 of them are still just M and need to be M+ to lvl to 200
Brutus, lyca, daimon, rowan, lucius btw, sorry
Thanks
Need help
Who do I replace with flora
Help
Try to put lorsan onto crystal and link safiya with mehira
Brutus rowan
Daimon lucretia lorsan
Or you could use nara to pull safiya earlier
@umbral whale
Brutus daimon
Safiya oden raku
.
Help pls
Try oden teleport
Brutus daimon
Nara thoran oden
What is the best team for twisted ice shemira
need help with this
Hello there, I'm looking for some help on building team for HoE pvp season, I was D1 with some difficulty last season, wanna make it to master this one, here's my roaster and the team I'm currently using : ( check link )
https://imgur.com/a/gO6Nsua
Can I replace oden with flora
Nope if your flora is only elite
@cursive cloak check your leaderboard and copy the comps of those in the top if you can. Generally it's saurus, grez, twins, mortas, warek. Or luc, skriath
Okay cool, thank you for the help
Hello @pale kettle,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.
Could someone create a lineup for me?
I just started playing again after a really long time. and I remember this was the best one
@glacial brook
@warped kayak you can create one for yourself using the beginners guide on #classic-questions. Was just recently updated as well
well read the guides but also ur leveling up way too many heroes at the same time
still need help
Ik i am
I think I sjould have only gone for the monkey king bc hes like allround god
Feel the pain
If I were to try to make 3 good teams instead of 2,what team should I move Alna to?
Make your 3 good teams alna burst luc cycle and ainz
Replace alna with skreg or tasi in cycle, and run eironn alna gwyn lyca lorsan for the burst
Thanks, didn't consider putting her in burst. So I'll try that
no hope?
Two days playin'. Which heroes are perspective and wich must be forgotten? I stuck at lvl 7-20 of campaign now. But I'm playing all possible content, ofc. Also, what hero to choose from the chest?
need help on this stage, I already hate tasi and there's fking 2 here
use ferael to fear one and nara to pull one, rowan and brutus frontline, brutus face ulmus
daimon backline middle slot, give it some retry
Actually I just cleared it, raku just needed to dodge 340 times in a row
oh lul
Campaign formation?
Anybody know if this is possible
My friends so stuck on that level and nothing seems to work?
Without silas,no
aw damn ok, ty
Drop the backline for CC units. Consider morrow, pippa, oden.
ok ty
tbh vedan is just impossible to beat if ur too underleveled, hes kinda like someone in this channel said earlier a power check, and so is isabella. ur best beet is probably a rosaline daimon comp with nara pulling isabella (if thats possible i dont rly use her lmao) and silas is your friend here.
i mean if u have any chance its with thoran cheese and just using everything u can to charge his ult and keep him alive long enough to get it
try golus behind the brutus and then pippa silas oden bottom backline, or have daimon backline and golus in frontline instead with daimon behind him since daimon performs better as a backline tank
ok, but where i put silas?
tbh i dont think it matters much since isabella will melt whoever is backline middle, i think silas backline bottom is better
idk use nara to ur advantage here
i know that i need to use nara, but the problem its that silas dies at the second of the battle D:
what does he die to?
try switching up his placement so isabella targets something else u can try a satrana daimon brutus team to just be very aggressive and draw enemy fire and then silas will prob stay alive longer make sure hes in resonating crystal and possibly replace oden with estrilda
like this?
lmk how that goes @stiff hazel, it might be RNG based
yeah, maybe switch rosa and satrana if rosa dies too quick
the thing its that this one just completely delete the two behind brutus D:
vedan is a power check i hate him, try daimon behind brutus then satrana front line where daimon currently is, then rosa following satrana and silas in the same place, if it doesnt work switch who rosa follows. there is a possibility you just need to get higher level heroes for it to be possible for you to win
i cant get higher levels if i dont get the heroes that i need to get over lvl 100 D:
Satrana is elite+ so try leveling her up a bit
okok
Also u may need to use Nara and get her to 120
Graveborn
ok
Anyone got an idea? I'm stuck
congrats
Ouch
Anyone an idea how to improve my lineup?
37-4 no 5* call, no 9f, cant merc
Try thoran 2, lorsan 3, pippa 5. That's what I did. No 9f but 5* call so idk
Im getting decimated...
Any idea on the linup?
I tried switching tasi for Rowan, making rowan front row, lyca + tasi etc
I tried this but I’m still killed by the purple girl
Tasi?
Mythic o
Any idea for the 4th comp?
Why isn’t Merlin and Ezio with your Ainz comp
I'm fairly new only like 3days into my account. Anything in particular I should focus on?
Put that in #classic-questions @craggy cedar
My bad
We can't see tour heroes
oh, i was saying about the heroes from there, but well .w. here are the others
You might want to resonate silas.
Them trry to brutus daimon rosaline silas nara in this order.
why? he is that good(?
Hes extremely good. I'm a 10 days account and he helped me a ton. Great heals + immunity.
oh, nara helped a lot
silas actually didnt do too much there, but the others did great :D
You resonated him? He died early? You passed it?
@slim warren do you think you could help me with my stage?
This one right here
i resonated him, and give him the best equipment that i could found
Sure man. Im very new, but I see what I can do lol.
Oop, well you can try Rowan, Brutus, Daimon, Gwyn, and Lyca
Just avoid Estrilda for Daimon as she stuns quite a lot. If Fera kills you, you can use Gwyn to target him.
@tight juniper just this keeps happening a lot
Hm, try swapping Lyca for Ferael. And swap Gwyn for Oden
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
lyca
Tasi
Or
Daimon/tasi
Rowan
Lyca
Brutus
Tasi/Daimon (some retries for daimon dont die by estrilla) @pale kettle
Who should I use to make a team as a starter
still cant defeat
nvm defeated it alr, changed arden to thoran lmao
Athalia kinda toxic
no rowan or fereal....
lyca
brutus
oden
thoran
daimon
@pale kettle @tight juniper may or not have not worked/went worse
Should I be making any changes here? And if not can anyone recommend a fifth team for me? I have almost all 4f ascended, mehira + khazard are mythic +30, mortas is mythic +20. Only problem is that I don't quite have zaph or zolrath built to ascended to take advantage of their furniture, and my skreg is only 3/9 for invade.
Athalia and Talene are both ascended +30.
is this for PvE, HoE, LCT, LC, or what?
Sorry, I should have specified. HoE. I'm at Diamond III at the moment.
got desira built?
She's due to be my next +30. I have her at +20, 3/9 but still 100 reds short of +30.
team 1: alna grezhul ferael silas athalia
team 2: arthur ezio ainz merlin albedo
team 3: prince eironn lorsan lyca gwyn
team 4: lucretia twins ezizh rowan tasi
team 5: thoran talene kelthur flora skreg, or whatever scuff you can muster if flora isn't up to par
Ah, Prince might be a no go too. I never thought he was useful so he's only +10 no furniture.
Sorry, I should have given these screenshots earlier.
he's usable at minimal investment here
Is it useful having Gwyn and an un-built Prince in a pull comp? Seems weird.
gwyn is core to budget burst
Ah, Eironn is front line.
prince is the flex slot but serves his purpose well
Awesome. I'll give these a shot. Thanks @maiden marsh
Help plz
@fair kayak try it with fera, grez, oden, rowan, daimon
@maiden marsh Thank you for that. I pushed from Diamond 3 to Diamond 1 with only one loss. The Gwyn burst and Thoran teams actually came in clutch a few times. I was not expecting it.

oh nice good thinking
now i’m stuck in the next level 😂
LOL FELT THAT
Please help me
Try lyca brutus grezhul rowan daimon 1-5 order
Wtf ur grez is 9 furn?
I see
Hopefully it wasn’t a big mistake
It's definitely not a mistake as Grez is an amazing carry later eventually.
Is thoran 9 furn better? Since it can cheese
Grez 9 >>> Thoran 9
Oh good to know
Tbh thoran doesn't technically need 9 furn if you can fuel him enough energy. But its a LOT easier to have him at 9 furn if u lack 5* call.
Hello i m new to game , i use the first 5 for now , i swap sometimes Cecilia whith the dark hero for dfns but idk if is good , Any sugestion ? Shuld i Swap the maid whith desire ?
And i dont feel like mi oden is doing too much .. but i did get some copy of him so i build him
Cuz ainz comp shreds already with 3 heroes, doesn't need 5 -_- would be a waste, this way I can use them in other comps
PS :
Ainz albedo Arthur Merlin rowan
Is stronger than
Ainz albedo Arthur Merlin ezio
Help pls
How do I overcome this? I been trying over 50 times
help me pick the 5?
Need help for HOE plz ty
For now only use Eirron Daimon Farel Rowan n Safiya
Yes i been using it till now. Currently stuck at chapter 21
Use skreg Skraith hogan Safiya n flora
You should focus on one type my choise Wilders raise them well and keep rannkup Arden safe you will need him many levels
Focus on one type and rankup them properly u can choose Wilder or GB both good
Replaced hogan with oden though is that okay? and oden is back row on bottom hes safe 🙂
Yes its fine
cool thanks! i get the 15%atk and 20%hp bonus wit this setup
put brutus in your crystal and you will have more option for that
Will do. Waiting for a slot cooldown
Not sure if i should ascend desira. I have like 5 copies of her.
can you post your gb box ?
definitely desira next, you already have enough to make her A 
give her some good gear and she will help you a lot
She replace rowan?
oh and don't feed that shem, save her for ainz link later
not really, you can use both
its depend on enemy, you can flex them
I see i see. Alright ty, trying to collect the purple dust to level up my farael though.
25k is so much haha
Does the hero exclusive skin does anything or issit just for show?
im hard stuck 9 - 20
is there any team comp with the units i have that can beat this?
just for cosmetic 
Oh my. Hahhaa alright
@ember bane I just got gwyneth, should i swap someone out for her?
This is what I got now
Thinking of removing safiya for her
Anyone? Should I remove safiya for gwyneth?
I'd say remove skriath for gwyn since he's not that good unless 3/9
And try putting flora in frontlane, gwyn in middle and safiya on top
Yeah this should be better
Thanks!
Can someone help me im stuck at 9-20 for some time
Advice?
rosa follow either lucius or lyca is better
Thanks i beat them lol i didint know it was this simple xD
As a fourth team in Hoe I'm using charm comp (without zolrath). Is it more effective to use Khazard or Raku? Current comp is Rosa, Rowan, Raku, Mehira and Ezizh.
Guys I have a problem the codes didn't work with me they are expired
I am new I'm this game
well it depends on the codes you try to use, some were temporary, others aren't. Just try all te code you can ^^
???? Are you aware of what Merlin’s 9 is?
i've never see any AA comp with rowan in that
Can't beat it
show your roaster pls
I know but I am priorizing red cards for gerzhul and lucetia first for AbEx
can you show your rowan gear ?
He's not exactly big ballin


