lineup-help

[rigid imp]

who did silvina target? isabella or nemora ?

[fresh owl]

nemora

[rigid imp]

then i would do it like this
saveas

thoran
shemira/nemora (i think shemira will give better result but you should try both option)
silvina
daimon

[fair kayak]

Getting destroyed on this one, ideas?

[short badge]

Someone pls help

[simple nymph]

can i ask you what day youre on?

[short badge]

8th

457 summons, no Daimon

[fair kayak]

Wait how r u counting your summon

Also maybe try mirael instead of da Vinci, Rowan instead of rosaline

[short badge]

Ok, thanks! At the Noble Tavern, you can click on the icon to the left of the progress bar

[simple nymph]

this probably?

[short badge]

Yes, that ^

[fair kayak]

Oh guess it doesn't anymore past 500

[short badge]

What day are you on?

[simple nymph]

7 and currently stuck on 10-16

[short badge]

Show me your team

[short badge]

Damn bro, you have a Daimon

[simple nymph]

yeah 1 whole daimon

[short badge]

Yeah but I have 0...

I mean, 1 after tomorrow cus I am definitely forcing her from the Lyrical Expedition event

[simple nymph]

yeah thats my plan as well

[short badge]

Anyway, I used Thorsan, Silas, Shemira, Grezhul and a flex (Nara mostly to take out an opponent enemy like Isabella)

[simple nymph]

just need to do 12 wins with 2 rangers

[short badge]

Took some RNG but made it my way to 10-36 with that comp

Shemira as carry, as you can see

Maybe you can push a bit further with that comp, try Daimon too !

[simple nymph]

yeah i think i should get another crystal spot tomorrow so gonna throw in daimon

[short badge]

Best advice I can give you is to push with that comp or one close to it, as I made it to 10-36 purely by RNG and that comp

Because in 2d the mercenaries reset, so you can use an Ainz to oneshot last boss stage

[simple nymph]

yeah i mean i dont have any of the heroes so ill see what i can do

[short badge]

This is what the beginning looks like without 4 copies of Daimon

[simple nymph]

yup

[short badge]

What did you claim from the Big Giveback event?

[simple nymph]

purple stones

only got like 40 tickets i think

you?

nvm not stuck on 10-16 anymore, used the 3day trial of leonardo and beat it

[short badge]

Nice!

I got all red chests for emblems

[fair kayak]

Halp

[plucky pivot]

try removing brutus bringing ferael to the front and putting eironn in the middle

[fair kayak]

Daimon never gets to ult because of silvina, very rare occasion Ferael actually gets the stun off. Getting absolutely destroyed

[floral cargo]

Heeelp

[dim oyster]

Help

Support?

[keen abyss]

Help pweeeaasse

[pulsar jacinth]

My silas is always dying, is there another support I can use?

[pale kettle]

Can you post your 1st page heroes box ?

[pale kettle]

Look at those weak enemies. Lvl 123
Imagine your L Daimon would be 140 and swipe them lefthanded
... reset Lucius. Level up Niru to 100... not 120
Bc your priority rn is to get Daimon to 140

[red fable]

Need help with 3rd fight

[pulsar jacinth]

I need to get one more daimon to get her to L plus

[strong aurora]

This lvl is infuriating. Any ideas.

[pale kettle]

L 140
L+ 160 read my previous advice again pls

[pulsar jacinth]

wait how can she be level 140

[pale kettle]

Just like I said

Simple ^^ focus Daimon

[pulsar jacinth]

oh wait is L max 140?

[pale kettle]

Yes

[pulsar jacinth]

i need 3k powder, you got any tips on how to get more?

and uh i don’t have nara

[pale kettle]

Yes. Reset Lucius 120 ( as said )
Level up Niruuuuu to 100. The one with skin

This will give you dust/exp for Daimon

[pulsar jacinth]

OHHHHHHHH

so is niru gonna be front then?

[pale kettle]

Just try. You can also frontline mirael as she has high level/ ascension tier

[pulsar jacinth]

but my silas is still gonna continue dying

[pale kettle]

Your goal isn't to get everyone surviving
Daimon survivjng and finishjng off is enough

[pulsar jacinth]

oh ok

[pale kettle]

That's why just raise him and don'txworry so much

[pulsar jacinth]

ah ok

[wise wagon]

Any idea how to beat this? Greeting my a** handed to me.

[pulsar jacinth]

so it’s gonna be daimon, mirael front. tasi, niru, silas back?

[pale kettle]

Try ^^ until you win

Daimon 140 is guaranteed progress

[pulsar jacinth]

Alr thanks

[pseudo vine]

@pale kettle You can try, Arthur Albedo, Rowan, Ainz, Nara
Not sure if Ainz will work at that investment, but worth a shot.

[pale kettle]

Nara onto Saf?? Thanks for the suggestion 👍

[pseudo vine]

Saw a few clears with Athalia to lock down, so might work

[pale kettle]

will play around with it, ty!

[red fable]

I just need a fourth comp that can deal with one of the first three

My current 3 comps are ainz lucretia and just a random daimon comp for the last fight

[pseudo vine]

Sent you a DM with some comps

[pale kettle]

@pseudo vine thanks for the help buddy. got it after shuffling some gear around!

[pseudo vine]

No problem!

[pale kettle]

I was going to get Ainz si30, but I accidentally overdid Albedo to 35... was just trying to click until it maxed out, little did I know, she goes to 40 lol

[pseudo vine]

[opaque drift]

help pls D:

[pale kettle]

Save up all red furn cards and focus your next goal
Ainz 9F
Will bring you to ch. 30 easily . You buy Arthur from lab? If not, you should start now

[opaque drift]

the problem is i wasnt buying arthur from lab but i was just about to and then dim got announced :( so i cant now but i will start after and i will save for 9F then ty :D

[pale kettle]

Ok. Arthur 203 Alb 303 Ainz 309
AAA is very flexible for a long time

[opaque drift]

oki ill go for that , gonna take a long time now tho ahhaahh

[pale kettle]

Rowan si 30 next ?

[opaque drift]

i am saving for 300 chests right now for rowan si30, thats my first priority rn

or should i do something else?

[pale kettle]

👍 nope

Rowan is first 30 for u, someone might be able to make a case for bedo if u had Ainz 9f but since u don't, don't worry about that

[dull lotus]

i need a lineup help am on campaign 9:28

[echo spire]

I have no clue on how to beat this

[faint crystal]

Suggestions for who to put on my next rc slot when I get enough essences tonight? Stuck on 7-36

[bitter tide]

Who’s better; ferael or grezhul?

[faint crystal]

Grezhul doesn’t seem to do much for me

But he survives longer than golus and hogan

I think ferael has had more clutch battles for me

[opaque drift]

maybe someone got a good lineup 🙏

[short zephyr]

Does this work?

If oden dies instantly to silvina, you can try replacing him with a lyca for the haste boost, rowan needs semi-good gear to be able to frontline effectively

[opaque drift]

ainz and daimon linkeed D:

[short zephyr]

ouch.. u can link ainz with nemora then, nemora shouldn't realistically be used in campaign without her 9f, or you can replace ainz with an utility support unit

[opaque drift]

even if she is at 220/200?

[short zephyr]

yea i think thats fine, try it out

[opaque drift]

okii

everyone dying too quickly :(

tried a couple times, not even close

[short zephyr]

How is the gear situation on your units? That's usually the biggest powerspike around those stages

[opaque drift]

sshould i dm u each of their gears?

[short zephyr]

ehh no that isn't needed, just make sure daimon has T1 5* and rowan has good gear to frontline

Daimon has the highest gear priority for you so work on that

[opaque drift]

wait it might rng fight, it was a bit close like 2ppl alive

[short zephyr]

Daimon's gear is looking ok, i would work on rowan his boots and later his weapon, thats where the majority of his tankiness comes from, the dodge, the magic resist on his chest helps aswell

[tender gate]

My pvp teams are no good in my opinion. Ive looked a bit for a newer guide but Im not doing great in the event. Is there a good offense and defense guide somewhere?

[short zephyr]

sounds good, sometimes it just boils down to simple rng if your unit positioning is in order

[opaque drift]

how bout this, took it away from oden tho :(

[fleet glade]

Hey! Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask. I was curious if anyone would be willing to help me with an optimal team comp based on the characters I have?

[short zephyr]

That's fine, u can safely upgrade the GB gear to full t2 5* because it isn't wasted and temporarily use it on rowan

[opaque drift]

okiii ty :D

[short zephyr]

I see alot of glaring beginner mistakes, if you're interested to improve your situation, you can head over to #classic-questions and read the pinned visual guide there

As for your question, the best team that u can make is probably thoran/lyca/saveas/belinda(?)/hogan, make sure to put lyca/thoran in your resonating crystal, you frontline your thoran/hogan and backline the rest

[fleet glade]

gotcha, ill do that right now. I really appreciate the info! @short zephyr

[short zephyr]

Goodluck, you have to scroll down a bit in the pins to find it

[pulsar jacinth]

I’ve tried niru but he dies immediately, I need maybe a tank? Is grezhul gonna be good? If not I can use Lucius

[opaque drift]

it worked :) thanku

[short zephyr]

[opaque drift]

now ive got a worse stage 😭

[opaque drift]

if theres anything u can do help here 😭
they take no damage like barely any, specially ezizh

[short zephyr]

experiment with stuff and see what works, i cant help you with every stage,
you can also check out https://afkhelper.nax.is/ and see what people used for your particular stage

[opaque drift]

i have experimented nothing really works, ill use the website tho thanks :D

[zinc elm]

Bruhhh help me plz

[brave oriole]

Try Brutus Rosa, lyca rowan daimon, you should have some elite rowan by now

[zinc elm]

Sole I don’t have rowam even one

[brave oriole]

Then I dunno, try tasi instead

[south pilot]

what should I invest in and what should my lineup look like? chapter 12 currently

[pale kettle]

Prob like (front): Brutus and lucious (for now) back: fera mireal tasi maybe it replace the tasi with saf

[fierce viper]

Wtf is this garbage

[gusty wolf]

Send help 8-16

[pulsar jacinth]

Send help I don’t know who to replace for niru

[pale kettle]

Need help building campaign team

[sturdy mango]

Any tips?

[pulsar jacinth]

Help with everything

[upbeat fossil]

where is your Arden btw....u were supposed to level 5 fodder

Desira

Daimon
Silas
Thoran/Lucius
Tasi

[pulsar jacinth]

I barely get arden

My two little precious

[upbeat fossil]

you're using them as fodder that's why u end up with none
every single player gets 3-skill heroes by the dozens
prioritise Arden's ascensions, use other fodder as fodder for him

[pulsar jacinth]

No like I actually don’t get them, I’m not ascending anyone with him

[upbeat fossil]

there's just no way you only drew 2 of him when u have Daimon Lv.140
it is impossible
idk what u did but that is not normal
anyway i gave u a lineup suggestion go try that 10 times first

[marsh spruce]

hi, how can i manage a good lineup for campaign, arena, etc?

[pulsar jacinth]

[upbeat fossil]

dude unequip gear on heroes that you arent using
and stop enhancing gear you arent at that point yet

[pulsar jacinth]

Oh wait never mind I’m not using mirael anymore

[slim portal]

If I were you, I would prefer to start over at new server

[marsh spruce]

why? xd

[pulsar jacinth]

I do it for quests, i just always enhance that specific one for no apparent reason

[tight juniper]

Lots of stages are different so it depends on the enemies. Beside, avoid making L heroes as you're level capped.

[slim portal]

Anyway, idk about PvP but early campaign you can stick with a core carry + 2 tanks + 2 support

[upbeat fossil]

ok stop doing it for quests

How to complete all daily quests without levelling a hero/gear

Collect afk rewards > Begin campaign battle, exit > Fast Rewards (ask for strat) > Dispatch Bounty Board (ask for strat) > Use free daily Arena battles > Begin KT battle, exit > Buy items in Store (ask for strat) > Do Guild Hunt > Collect afk rewards

as for the strats, they're all in here

(15th September 2021)
Bok's Guide for Beginner Diamond Spending (the ones with "daily" should always be done, for the rest of your life)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855170522793639966/887448313224380426/diamondhands.png
Example of how to dispatch wanted bounties first before refreshing.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/858043029913731113/865804817266901002/video0.mov

[pulsar jacinth]

Woah

[hollow imp]

Lucky

[dull flame]

jokes on you, I need gold more than diamonds

[dull flame]

in pvp burst matters more I suppose, since lvl/power deficits aren't too big

[fiery wing]

need help thanks

[dull flame]

move eironn to position 3, you want him to pull dps, not the tanks lol

though maybe rowan and lyca will be better than eironn and brutus here, because you need to burst that isabella down with daimon quickly

[fiery wing]

the enemy fereal cant even ult daimon for the second time

[dull flame]

I'm sorry what?

[fiery wing]

daimon only ults one time then dies

and because fereal slows daimons ult isabella burts daimon

[dull flame]

daimon
thoran
rowan
lyca
fereal

I'm going to bed @fiery wing (midnight here lol), if your still stuck, try moving around the 5 heroes that I showed you, try every team on this website(everyone uses it now)https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=30&stage=1#

[upbeat fossil]

?

[dull flame]

constantly out of gold...need it more

[upbeat fossil]

That’s your gold management problem

[dull flame]

I know lol, just saying I need it more...and don't have much use for gems now

[upbeat fossil]

I don’t know what you’re doing but you’re doing it wrong

[high marlin]

Bok giving you a spanking

[high marlin]

Do 2 floors of kings tower

[fiery wing]

aight thanks

[rigid imp]

ferael

thoran
rowan
brutus
daimon
but i think you should trick first

[fiery wing]

what trick?

lmao i sacrificed my shem for the sake of thoran just to clear 52

[rigid imp]

lmao
but trick for mythic first, you might get a t3 stone

[fiery wing]

ahhh mythic trick lmao ok but it might not work since this is just a non boss stage

[rigid imp]

well it will work unless you got the timer wrong (like me ) lol

[rigid imp]

what about luc cheese ?

[ember sphinx]

Not working

Other suggestions?

[rigid imp]

no idea how to setup a team with your roaster sorry

[ember sphinx]

:(

[shut gazelle]

Sorry if this is a bit self-centered but with what I have what is a good team? For campaign

[pale kettle]

?

[plush prairie]

Need help! Stuck on this stage

[rigid imp]

daimon

brutus
ferael
thoran
numisu/raine/raku

[plush prairie]

huh? i dont understand this format

[rigid imp]

mean front line
other mean backline

[pale kettle]

?

[rigid imp]

get 1 more fodder to lvl 100, it should help

[pale kettle]

Golus?

[rigid imp]

yeah golus or silvina is ok

[pale kettle]

K

[sleek delta]

What's the winning condition on this cheese. Thoran gets insta banish by fawkes. Can't get an ult off even with 309 thoran

[plucky pivot]

What are three good formations for HoE?

[onyx basin]

What 2 other teams i can make for hoe? Currently running these three

[keen dawn]

Any tips? Ainz just can't ult cause of Ezizh, and everyone just gets obliterated

[worldly apex]

use ainz in r2?

[modern kelp]

Anyone that can help me building T4 and t5 for HoE ? I'm RC 420 but still can't figure out good lineups

[shell bluff]

Can someone send me a good line-up for all 4 Towers of Esperia?

[primal ice]

How could I pass this? (9-20)

[zinc elm]

Anyone wanna help?

[zinc elm]

Put daimon in back/ replace oden with him put tasi back row keep mireal try that

[dapper oyster]

Could somebody help me with lineups for HOE?

[zinc elm]

Plus another tank upfront

[primal ice]

put grezhul instead of odin, passed it, ty

[zinc elm]

What?

[royal stag]

Ur chapter 30 ?

[dapper oyster]

Forgot to update 35-48

[royal stag]

That makes more sense

AAA, Merlin and pop
Lucretia 5pull
Gb Team

[dapper oyster]

What's AAA?

[umbral whale]

ainz, albedo, arthur i think

[royal stag]

Ainz, Albedo and Arthur

[dapper oyster]

This was my current lineup

Do pop instead of rowan? I was thinking also about rakku with pop

[royal stag]

Alna would be perfect but she needs 309

[dapper oyster]

Hmm close to 30 but not to ascended with her :/

So that gb team is something like in the picture?

[royal stag]

Yeah

[dapper oyster]

Nice thank you

I tend to lose quite few fights tho

[valid coral]

I'm really struggling at this stage. Any ideas?

[dull flame]

powercapped....it's why I need the gold

[velvet mountain]

how should i build my chars?

[dull flame]

Level up daimon as much as you can, follow the wishlist guide, don't make legendary if they can't go to legendary+, read guides in afk arena reddit and on YouTube(just search up Volkin Games)

[velvet mountain]

should i reset wu kong?

[elfin cloak]

nope not yet

[velvet mountain]

so from now on i’m just focusing on daimon?

[pale kettle]

Am stuck ://
I have 4 helpers as well

[brave oriole]

Get some good mercenaries, to help out with lab

[grizzled mulch]

I'll help with giving some mercs

[pale kettle]

1. Redeem all active gift codes today, so none expires while you play #classic-updates
2. Read the Beginners Guide - pinned message in #classic-questions channel
3. Only lvl up 5 heroes: Daimon 100 , 4 others at 60 = efficient. After ~24h you should reach ch. 7/8

[velvet mountain]

4 others? so any hero?

cause in bok's guide it's arden, golus, silvina, hogan

[pale kettle]

Wukong, Mirael .... others not so great rn
Rowan, silas, desira, ferael, raku, kren would be nice

[velvet mountain]

i have twins

are they good?

[pale kettle]

.... lol
Have you set your tavern WL according to the beginners guide ?
If not, you should

[velvet mountain]

yes, i have

[pale kettle]

Twins are for boss fights mainly, celestial faction doesn't mean it's great for campaign
Due to being rare

[velvet mountain]

ah ok

[pale kettle]

Wukong, mirael, nemora, hogan
Your 4x 60

[dull flame]

This. Although twins do have a use in some teams, although not often

[velvet mountain]

ok

[velvet mountain]

any rank?

i have a rare+ and elite+ mirael so i use elite+?

[untold steppe]

Would putting anyone of these on crystal help beat 7-40? Its been walling me for 2 days

[pale kettle]

Why would you use a weaker version when given both ? ^^

[velvet mountain]

nah nvm, i thought less resources are needed for rare rip nitro

[pale kettle]

Your levelling isn't efficientxas well
Your darry Daimon could be 120 since 2 days ( others are 80 at that point )

[velvet mountain]

so now i just waste my diamonds for 10x pull?

[untold steppe]

Yeah I was trying to follow the guide that only said to level him to 100 then level everyone else to 100, didnt know that had assumed no elite+

[pale kettle]

Reset those 2 and lvl Daimon only
Reset another down to 80 if needed to get Daimon 120. So you can push right away

[untold steppe]

Dont I have to level the assassin later? I thought I got the exp n stuff back whenever I can merge them with something else too?

[pale kettle]

Can't help you more then what I said
You can progress now. Carry always has prio

[untold steppe]

Thats fair, im ftp so im kinda anxious to use diamonds like that but if you think its worth it I will

[pale kettle]

Leveling more then 5 heroes will always be a mistake
Early game a very few resets are needed. No matter if you do such mistakes or not

Even 5x 20 dias is nothing to worry about

[untold steppe]

I did that stuff and still got wreaked quq

Probs one more day here so he can hopefully hit 120 instead of 112

Rn not even one of their heros dies

Its actually worse than before cuz I was able to kill 2

[brave oriole]

What are you using right now?

[untold steppe]

This is what happens

[brave oriole]

Take a clear ss, before to start the battle

[untold steppe]

Since twins and hendrick both on crystal theyre only lv80 instead of 99 now tho

So they die rly fast

[dull flame]

Bruh put it on auto

[untold steppe]

Its on auto and stuff, I took it off to show it better

Ive already used 80 gems cuz I accidentally went to 83 and had to reset again :') this feels rly wasteful

[dull flame]

?

[untold steppe]

Absolutely destroyed since now my frontline cant tank even slightly and twins cant live long enough to ult

So currently I've used 80 diamonds to make my team worse

[dull flame]

You make 1100 diamonds per day on average relax....and afk arena is just like that, gotta make investments, and no one knows if it will pay off

[untold steppe]

How do you make 1.1k a day??

[dull flame]

Twins don't need to ult, daimon does. Just put tanks around him, pop him in position 5, let him go ham

[untold steppe]

I keep not even being able to do those quest things cuz I keep getting legendary quests without any legendary rarity to to put in them

Okay but hes doing nothing. Not even a quarter of their health.

[pale kettle]

Можете подсазать где вводить коды???

[dull flame]

Sorry don't speak the language

[dull flame]

Oden in position 3, Pippa in position 4, hogan in positon 1, golus in position 2

[untold steppe]

I even tried putting his axe thing to 2* instead of everything having everything at 0-1

Since they'll all be level 80 wont they instant die?

[dull flame]

Nope. Lvls aren't super important

[untold steppe]

Also golus is type weak to them? And doesnt that put damian on the corner?

[dull flame]

Yes, swap position of daimon and oden

[untold steppe]

He didn't get a chance to ult, I think I need to level past 80

[south pilot]

help on team? :))

[untold steppe]

Wait with oden? But thatd be the other corner?

[dull flame]

Daimon is the only one that needs to ult.

[fathom widget]

what team here

[dull flame]

Because there's slowmode, and someone is in front of you, please wait

[dull flame]

Go Google da Vinci trial guide

[untold steppe]

No like, they died too fast and Damian couldn't ult

[south pilot]

Oh. Sure. xd

[dull flame]

Do you have a Brutus?

[untold steppe]

how do you get 1.1k gems a day?

Noppers quq

I think I'll give it afk today again and then tonight I'll level damian and try that formation again and see if that works? Would this formation be better than my old one in future levels or would I switch back? Ty for all the advice

[dull flame]

You don't have a carry....

[dull flame]

Uh no, it's just for this stage. Your still really early in the game so you don't have a lot of characters. Usually daimon pairs with all the graveborns, rowan lyca and brutus

[south pilot]

maybe that is why i ask on a discord? to get help?

[dull flame]

1.1k gems might not be achievable for you yet, but it will be later, I think I make 1.5k normally

[tepid jolt]

Uh show your whole box

[dull flame]

Maybe you should take a look at the guides then....

[south pilot]

omw

[dull flame]

Are you following the wishlist guide? Cause there's a bunch of non meta heroes

[south pilot]

yes, i copied one from a guide

[dull flame]

Which one? Because there are many versions

[untold steppe]

I looked at alll the guides I could find TuT

Rn I get like,, mayyybe half of that?

Rn I have a few graveborns but I dont have rowan :(

[tepid jolt]

Uh what’s ur Wishlist

[dull flame]

Aim for him. Follow wishlist guide

[untold steppe]

Ive had wishlist since day 1

[untold steppe]

I just have bad luck, instead I pull 3 of that archer lmao

[tepid jolt]

Remove Grezhul

He isn’t rlly useful for u rn

[dull flame]

This

[south pilot]

and put?

[tepid jolt]

You could add like maybe a nara

She’s p useful against specific matchups like Isabella

[dull flame]

Nara only needs elite

[tepid jolt]

And also hope for a Daimon lmao

[tepid jolt]

Do they have her?

[south pilot]

I do

[tepid jolt]

Oh

Wait am I blind

[pale kettle]

You still use twins
You handicap yourself bc of early game simping

[south pilot]

Nah just not quite up there

[tepid jolt]

Twins are terrible early game

[pale kettle]

After being stuck for 2 days it's not possible to make things worse
By raising Daimon carry
Still using twins is 1 prob for example. Any support
Rowan, silas, desira, ferael, .... lyca. Not twins

[untold steppe]

???? What simping??? theyre listed as one of the best characters in the game and I have them cuz of that stamps event I bought those instead of 3 summons worth

I went from able to kill 2-3 to not even being able to ult, it def got worse

[tepid jolt]

Um you’re in realllyyyyyyy early game

They’re not good at all for where you’re at

[tepid jolt]

You always have to switch formations

There’s no formation which would work for every level

[untold steppe]

And desira I got like 2 days ago and I didnt even know ferael was support, it says ranger n dps, how was I supposed to know =/

[tepid jolt]

Have you used all the codes?

[untold steppe]

I dont have the other 3 i woildnt say thats simping =//// yes

I took her off the crystal for now ig

[dull flame]

I'm loving this convo

[tepid jolt]

You can try using like a combo of wukong, daimon, oden, ferael, and idk who to use for tank

[dull flame]

Thoran or Brutus

[untold steppe]

Id like to remind yall im new and my crystal has to recharge for 24 hours with next to no slots on it

[tepid jolt]

I don’t think they have either

[untold steppe]

I have neither of those

[dull flame]

Then get them....

[tepid jolt]

What’s ur Wishlist

[untold steppe]

=/

[tepid jolt]

Uh you can wait 5 days and get Thoran

Lol

[untold steppe]

what are you talking about 5 days

[tepid jolt]

Event

Uh so like put brutus in ur Wishlist

[untold steppe]

I shouldnt go for the celestial?

[tepid jolt]

Flora is pretty bad

[untold steppe]

Which one is brutus all the maulers look basically tbe same

[tepid jolt]

Lion

[tight juniper]

[tepid jolt]

Check pins in #classic-questions

[untold steppe]

Who gets swapped?

[tepid jolt]

It’ll tell you about the choice chest and I would say take out safiya

[tight juniper]

Safiya works fine at e, shes used for her prism

[dull flame]

Yes

[tepid jolt]

Isn’t rlly needed tho

[untold steppe]

Is that the catgirl?

[tepid jolt]

You can realistically take out any of them cuz maulers are eh

[dull flame]

catgirl

[tight juniper]

And also, this should be in #classic-questions instead of line up LOL

[tepid jolt]

I mean true lol

[untold steppe]

||The maulers having over half of them being the same brown with red hairs makes me feel like they saw someone on their design teams fursona and decided to base half the maulers on it||

[dull flame]

?

[untold steppe]

That is mostly a joke

mostly

[lusty ferry]

how do i win

[tight juniper]

Dunno, what are your heroes

[dull flame]

You do it

[tight juniper]

Luci, Brutus, Lyca, Rowan, and Ainz?

[lusty ferry]

who's luci?

[tight juniper]

Lucius

If you have nara, try lucius, Brutus, lyca, ainz, and nara

[lusty ferry]

this

[tight juniper]

Yeah I guess, do you at least have nara

[lusty ferry]

nope

[tight juniper]

Well, that's unfortunate. Do you have anyone else like e athalia?

[lusty ferry]

oh i have e nara

[tight juniper]

Alright, add her to the crystal

[lusty ferry]

nara?

[opaque drift]

yes her

[tepid jolt]

Isnt silvina gonna focus ainz

Without Rowan there

[tight juniper]

Oh yeah, maybe adjust nara to slot 3

[lusty ferry]

thank you oh wait i didnt win lol there we go i won

[rigid imp]

change izold to grez is better

[sweet vortex]

Should I merc anyone cus I can’t seem to get past using anything

[dull flame]

If your going to use ainz, invest in him ffs

[sweet vortex]

Currently broke in every way 😄

[dull flame]

Then use daimon....

[sweet vortex]

Still doesn’t work in the comp

[valid comet]

Just got to 3 team any help with formations?

[pale kettle]

Just use your highest lvl front ez
Even Wukong/Mirael are enough

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/840276944838197278/886978007384875008/Screenshot_20210907-160049_AFK_Arena.jpg

[lusty ferry]

how win

[cerulean nimbus]

Am stuck

[pale kettle]

Daimon / hogan front
Other 3 backline @untold steppe no twins. They are op for boss fights

[untold steppe]

The guide said izold tho? is that an updated thing?

[rigid imp]

i think izold priority is after grez

[clear nova]

Help?

[zealous iron]

Put rowan in the middle

[onyx basin]

I need help making 2 more teams for HoE

[maiden marsh]

Swap lucretia for grezhul then put lucretia in luc cycle (luc twins skreg rowan ezizh)

Replace ezizh for ezio in ainz

Replace saurus for zolrath in burst

Final team can be stall (talene thoran flora kelthur tasi)

[gusty wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890233751337058314/893558552847851530/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890233751337058314/893558691289247744/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890233751337058314/893558770188304384/unknown.png

[warm ember]

been trying to switch their places n tried replacing other heroes but i still cant pass </3 can someone help me out?

[slim portal]

Read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions please

You should have a 160 mirael by now that can deletes those opponent

[pulsar jacinth]

[mortal mural]

What team would you recommend?

[warm yew]

I would do

Daimon

Lucius
Mirael
Thoran
Wukong(? Optional)

[pulsar jacinth]

Wait but don’t I need supp?

[warm yew]

Also make sure you're leveling fodder for your RC

[warm yew]

Not really, i dont remember last time I've used silas in campaign

[pulsar jacinth]

Rc?

[warm yew]

Resonating Crystal, check the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions

[pulsar jacinth]

Oh I see, but doesn’t it also say I need a support on my team. Like it doesn’t have to be silas.. idk

[warm yew]

Its optional but not needed imo

[pulsar jacinth]

Hmmm ok

[regal valve]

Welp pls

[split prairie]

@regal valve what does your gb/wilder box look like atm

[pulsar jacinth]

@warm yew sorry for the ping haha, but would raine work for me instead of wu Kong?

[split prairie]

oh nvm, I see what I need I'd go 1. Brutus 2. Grez 3. ainz 4. Eironn 5. lyca @regal valve

[pulsar jacinth]

I have 0 equipment for wu Kong

And I’ve always wanted to try her

[warm yew]

probably not unless she can ult fast enough to be of use anywhere that early

[pulsar jacinth]

Darn

[regal valve]

thats prob suicidal action for my whole team

[dull flame]

Raine isn't good

[pulsar jacinth]

Kren..?

[warm yew]

how r u struggling with a box a million times better than mine

[split prairie]

@regal valve the only one on your team that matters for survival is ainz, the rest are there to stall for him or power him up

[warm yew]

Oh yeah he's decent, just experiment with everything lol

[regal valve]

becouse my best hero is fucking shemira

[regal valve]

he doesnt even ult once.... with my best gear....

[pulsar jacinth]

But I don’t have room in my rc so I gotta figure out someone

[regal valve]

+call on him

[split prairie]

@regal valve then swap ainz/lycas position, leave the rest where they are and rng it out- im assuming that the saveas is the one doing the most dps, can you show the end fight data?

[warm yew]

rip, if only i could see what i did for that stafe

I think sometimes I even ditched rowan for mortas

[regal valve]

yeah he is

[warm yew]

Have you tried nemora mid? She might be able to charm ferael

[split prairie]

@regal valve show the end battle data, that'll help quite a bit

[regal valve]

charming ferael doesnt help a bit tbh

[warm yew]

try a formation that gets you the closest to beating it then record it so we can do mental work

[split prairie]

@regal valve just pull pos 1/2 and 4 w/ your eironn. Leave lyca so he can get it off, and rng it out

[warm yew]

eironn pull didnt do shit for me there

[regal valve]

her charm is slow af, so he just does his thing

yeah it just gets everyone killed instantly by their brutus

[warm yew]

Did you try it with call?

[regal valve]

yeah, call+lyca and he does same thing

[warm yew]

Im psure my main lineup for a while was Brutus lyca frontline and daimon behind brutus top right for shem then rowan mid with ainz on 5

[split prairie]

@regal valve you're biggest danger right now is straight up the grezhul, that's a bit different. Try 1. Grezhul 2. Brutus 3. Eironn 4. Lyca 5. Ainz

[warm yew]

Question, is there a reason why people try to keep lyca alive even when she doesnt ult? I just use her as a one time haste thing

[regal valve]

My grez got 3 hit

[warm yew]

Replace grez for lucuis see if that changes anything

[regal valve]

everyone uses her for that tbh, she is only good for that

[split prairie]

@warm yew That's all she's needed for, so to put in perspective, until ch 31, the only thing that really matters is keeping your dps alive enough to take the stage.

[warm yew]

Reason why i put her frontline tbh

[split prairie]

@warm yew Same for several other heroes like Eironn/ nara etc. They are only meant to do their one thing- if they survive- great! If not, it's no big deal as long as they pull/stall (same for brutus)

[warm yew]

Damn where's your oden, no luck?

[split prairie]

@regal valve dude rng THAT formation

[regal valve]

same thing, if he could get his ult off it would be great but i already tested that and it isnt working

[regal valve]

i am trying to find what will work the best, i aint going for 900 retrys on another stage ffs

[split prairie]

do the other formation- the one you just sent a SS of, and rng that. Look at the difference.

[warm yew]

I guarantee you that formation will work, its super similar to what ive used there, you could even replace grez if he isnt helping

[split prairie]

@regal valve You're way to overlevelled for it to take 900 retries. You have a winning formation right there

[regal valve]

i was overleveled for 20-12 too dude, it took me 900 retries, it was just 20 level diffrence

[split prairie]

@regal valve then your formation was way off. Im not telling you this because I got an account to ch36+. I have more than 10 accounts to ch 32+

[regal valve]

i dont tho, this is my highest one yet

[warm yew]

wtf

[split prairie]

@regal valve Im just telling you that you have the ability to push to 25 w/o a billion retries, but sometimes it's gonna take 10 or 20, like- look at the end battle stats for the last 2 you posted- that's a HELL of a difference

[warm yew]

more like 50-200

[regal valve]

more like 2 nights of macroing

[warm yew]

Macro is meh, i just 4x speed and watch everything then move stuff around, swap artis. I bet you'll get further than me once you work something out. My box is trashy comspred to yours

[split prairie]

@regal valve tbf man, I've given you plenty of advice on how to progress w/ that account. You can do it right now w/ a bit of formation change- also doing all the extras like POT etc. No one can really help you past that

[regal valve]

Look at this rng

22-10 was inclass too

[warm yew]

bro did u not even bother to change formation once, ive never went over 300

[regal valve]

yeah i tried all formations i could, all of the stages had grez and ferael

[regal valve]

this was 2019 account that was stuck on c15

[split prairie]

That's really not bad considering what I've done on random alts- and they're nowhere near as powerful as your lineup

[regal valve]

so, it aint that bad tbh

[regal valve]

i sware everyone is over valuing my shemira and my team, my tanks suck, my majority of the team sucks, my rowan is only elite and legit my rng is only good when i dont need it

[warm yew]

eh, well good luck, if nothing goes right, u could wait for merc reset...

merc didnt do shit for me on 22-28

[regal valve]

its in 2 days, that was my go to tactic for this stage

i will just make scuffed luc 5 pull for this stage

[warm yew]

Had to brute force lucretia merc on 28, man that was pain

[split prairie]

@regal valve No one is over valuing- you have the ability to get to 25+ fairly easy, but it's going to take formation changes. Also- even at chp 30, most of my accs were 3/5s e or e+. That's the point really, making sure you have the right counters

[regal valve]

my friend is even stronger than me rn and is 20-4 rn

[warm yew]

Maybe he's hoarding his stuff

[regal valve]

well how tf do i do it then

[regal valve]

he did 500 summons today, 200 stargazers for luc, he is going to push so hard i think

[split prairie]

@regal valve you already have the formation that can win- it's the last one you sent the SS of that I suggested. Now it's just rng

[regal valve]

i dont think it is

my ainz doesnt regen enough for 2nd ult, and brutus is brutus and survives everything enemy one btw

[split prairie]

@regal valve alright man, that's all I can do to help. Like I said, ive done it now many many times, you just have to rng it out.

[warm yew]

a few more days of fodder and i get my 200 cap :D

[regal valve]

i sware if this takes 900 times i will go and buy myself enough to do luc 1 star stargazing

[split prairie]

@regal valve ive already done those types of battles bud, yours won't be looking like this

[regal valve]

should i just get my brutus to L

i have fodder to do so, it might help me

[split prairie]

@regal valve it 100% won't make a difference, he's only there to stall atm

@regal valve if you're going to A him then go for it, just remember there are other priorities for maulers, brutus does his deal just fine at e

[regal valve]

its so annoying tho, these stages are made to make someone p2w tbh

[warm yew]

@regal valve u got this bro, im close to figuring out 22-32

[regal valve]

eh, kren and skreg are only ones super good, chicken too

[split prairie]

@regal valve Numisu/safiya/ even antandra

[regal valve]

dude you got SI30 rowan, he regens for you so much

[warm yew]

True lol

[regal valve]

i think i even used my rowan as fodder when he was shit

[split prairie]

@regal valve rowan was meta at release

[regal valve]

nah i didnt

it was estrilda who i foddered

[warm yew]

Damn those t1 boots helped

[regal valve]

i am SI15 on my daimon sadly

[warm yew]

Apparently i kept blade on brutus

[warm yew]

should've used those events to your advantage

[regal valve]

yeah i tried, my albedo was a priority, your rowan helped there too

whenever i use my rowan he is there just to die tbh

becouse thats only thing he is good at

[warm yew]

2 attemps for 22-33 nice

[regal valve]

i get stuck on dumb stages

[warm yew]

Rowan is sweet on +30 my lord

[regal valve]

i roll trought boss like its nothing

[warm yew]

I was stuck on 22-2 for a week bro dont stress it

[regal valve]

i will SI30 my shemira

[regal valve]

i got that stage first try

whole c21 first try but this stage its so annoying

[warm yew]

33-34 done, get that grind on @regal valve

35 for you

[vapid jungle]

feel totally stuck, i get wiped fast... doable or time for the afk part of the game?

[bright rock]

Anyone to help make 5 decent teams for hoe, I'm not very experienced and don't feel comfortable with making 5 teams for pvp

[slim portal]

Make your boi daimon 220, it’s doable with Nara Lyca Brutus Eironn probably

Easier if you have talene but you no showing box

[vapid jungle]

here it is (also elite+ twin not showing)

[gaunt dragon]

Pls help

[slim portal]

Ye, make your boi daimon 220 should be easier, and play around eironn and Nara to disable Isabella and ferael, frontline Brutus and Alna or thoran

[tardy compass]

Help please

[maiden glen]

What 3 PvP teams could I build to use in Heroes of esperia or 2-3 Teams I can use for campaign multi team Fights

[pulsar jacinth]

Help

[pale kettle]

replace mirael with desira

[pulsar jacinth]

Ive tried that comp, everyone dies immediately

I can’t ascend anyone

I also have an ainz, idk if that’s helpful or not

[pale kettle]

u don't have brutus ?

[pulsar jacinth]

No sadly

[wet nexus]

How’s my team look

[dull lotus]

how can i beat this floor the 2 belindas keep killing me with their ults

[acoustic summit]

Heeelp please I’m stuck

[proud mantle]

@acoustic summit try using talene instead of Thoran, Arden instead of Leonardo

[acoustic summit]

Kk

[proud mantle]

Maybe Lyca or Nara instead of Mehira if she isnt getting her charm off before she dies

[acoustic summit]

Mehira got her charm off but aaagh Belinda ultra

If she didn’t ult it would win, was very close. I tried Nara tho she gets 2v1ed and dies very fast

[proud mantle]

Did u try moving brutus top front ? Or like Daimon bottom back when Brutus was bottom front

[acoustic summit]

Ok

[brave oriole]

Try with tasi there

[acoustic summit]

Gah mirael and Belinda ulted together and rekt all 5

[acoustic summit]

TPs into estrilda and mirael face, gets destroyed

[proud mantle]

Go back to the comp that almost won and retry a bit more

You said one was very close

[brave oriole]

Well, first of all, your mistake it's lvling the others past 140,instead of daimon to 180

[acoustic summit]

I have the resources to level daimon to 180 except dust

[brave oriole]

But if you reset all back to 140,u get some dust back from all

[acoustic summit]

Which I need 12k of

[acoustic summit]

So reset back to…

[brave oriole]

Well, reset all 4, one by one and lvl them back to 140,keep daimon 160

@gaunt dragon it's hard to counter athalia like this , try grez rowan, raku lyca ferael

[gaunt dragon]

Won with this

[brave oriole]

@gaunt dragon nice 👍, but I would try raku for a while, to figure out how good he is .

[gaunt dragon]

Oh I use him

He’s really good. I have him SI30

[acoustic summit]

Failed

[brave oriole]

I know, but, there's some tricks, so raku can win everything in a few seconds

What did you failed?

[gaunt dragon]

What tricks?

[maiden glen]

Are this Formations good for HoE or should I change up?

[drowsy sky]

Can someone help me build 4 comps to push in chapter 36?

[drowsy sky]

Use for the first formation (strongest): rowan, lyca, tasi, eironn and nemora; for the second formation (second strongest) use: grezhul, thoran, lucretia, athalia and daimon. For the last comp just do any random stuff, make sure that you use the first (strongest) and third (weakest) formations as your first and second teams while the (second strongest) formation as your third team.

[drowsy sky]

Do you have saurus?

[gaunt dragon]

Yeah

[tough fjord]

Help

[gaunt dragon]

Nara Hook fae

[hard forge]

The 5 standard campaign teams are ainz, alna gb, 5 pull luc, thoran, charm

The comps vary from stage to stage and sometimes you may not even use one or two of those teams, but it’s those same 5 teams like 90% of the time

[quick rampart]

@rigid imp

[untold steppe]

The advice I got was very not good to reset my 5th crystal member down to 80 to level damian, but I used up 4 8 hour exps so I could bring it back up to 100 and easy cleared after so many more wasted supplies TuT ty to the people with the advice on the extra team members

[worthy steeple]

I'm currently gold 1 but I need 5 teams ready for when I hit diamond, any suggestions based on my box?

[rigid imp]

this is pretty nornal tbh
they're a wilder team which have factional advantage and even their team form up an aura for bonus
i would do this with your roaster:
daimon

thoran
nara
grez
oden
you will never want daimon to face ogi or ulmus ever

[quick rampart]

Here are a couple teams that have cleared it

[drowsy sky]

I see, thanks; but what exactly is the 5 pull luc? It has eironn, skriath, luc, and what else? My saf is +0 0/9

[rigid imp]

they have ferael dude, his cc is insane

[quick rampart]

Must be because I barely kill one of them

[drowsy sky]

found it on reddit

thanks again for the help

[sudden tiger]

Any ideas to help me get through these levels a bit easier?

[slim portal]

If you followed the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
Should have at least a 160 Mirael to delete these level already

Also you have no Nara to counter Isabella on opponent team

Basically you should have 5 Legendary+ hero by now, and not stuck at 140

[tight juniper]

Do you struggle on all of them? Or just some stagess?

[pale kettle]

2nd two, getting an error uploading my roster. I'll just ask again later 🤷‍♂️

[tight juniper]

Alright

[sudden tiger]

I unfortunately joined this discord after I started playing more, so I’m quite stuck

[slim portal]

Every bad investment slow down your progression, you might need Arden to disturb opponent Isabella to pass this level

Also Brutus and Thoran frontline to last longer

[sudden tiger]

I see, I’ll try this out

[sudden tiger]

Yeah I’ve died with Arden, Brutus switch outs

[dull flame]

daimon
rowan
fereal
lyca
oden

[pale kettle]

Thanks worked very well

I mean few retries but uhh yeah it worked well

[warm yew]

@regal valve do did you beat it?

Im at 22-41 rn

42 ;-;

43

44, ok i think early 22 is purposely hard for no reason

45, ye this is odd, is it the cleaned realm?

[pseudo vine]

Any tips on better lineups, for offense or defense? Right now I get away with Ainz and Alna/Daimon comps on attack.

[elder sky]

line up soren F2P pls

[regal valve]

I was sleeping

And i didnt beat it yet

The formation isnt enough tbh, its so fucking squishy

[regal valve]

@warm yew graveborns op, at 300 macro retries still nothing

[solid salmon]

Help

[regal valve]

Rowan-Lucious front lyca Daimon nara @solid salmon

[warm swan]

@rose parrot tried using those l+ fodders instead?

[stark mauve]

i need help as my mehira and eirron gets bursted easily, no idea what to do

[languid flame]

Help pls

[warm swan]

@stark mauve ditch eiroon and mehira. Do something like talene, thoran, silv, rowan, tasi. And I hope you've stopped ascending to l+ with those A-tier heroes

Same goes for you @languid flame . Both of you should really be reading the guide on #classic-questions

[stark mauve]

which heroes are a-tier?

[warm swan]

Ascended tier heroes. Go to your Heroes page > Portraits.

[umbral whale]

Need help on this stage

[rigid imp]

oof look like a total counter

[umbral whale]

sadge

[rigid imp]

3 cc immune tank

[umbral whale]

what did I do to deserve this?

[rigid imp]

you can start lvl up your daimon and use him for these stage so you don't have to retry a lot with ra-kun

[cold cove]

36-48 need help with stage 2. I want to luc cheese it but dont know how, Im mercing a friend's luc

[lean otter]

Hey guys, this is my hero pool, I am having issues progressing on HoE. Is there any way to improve my teams?

[cold cove]

nvm did it with god comp + talene merc

[umbral whale]

lol thats what I am trying to do now, only thing is that he has shit gear rn, nowhere close to raku's

[cursive cloak]

I need help picking team 4 & 5

[proper glade]

So I tried Solise Rowan Rosa Estrilda Twins for the Nemora Boss. Solise ults twice but then stops before she does it again, two times. Is there a way/team that makes her ult continuously without this "recharge time"?

[humble zodiac]

just merc a shemira

[hard forge]

Gb and stall or invade probably

[cursive cloak]

@hard forge what is the comp for those?

[dull flame]

eironn burst is terrible in defense, especially without zolrath....

[hard forge]

Gb would be like daimon grez oden/athalia fera Silas/desira, stall is something along the lines of thoran talene flora ezio/kelthur/theowyn/wukong, and invade would be skreg (replace for tasi in cycle) tidus kren oden/athalia Cecilia

[dull flame]

add in alna once she gets 9f and pair her with grez or luc

[cursive cloak]

Ohhhh those sound like good teams! And yes I really want grez and alna 9/9!!!

Is it ok to use a mythic athalia? In this event? That’s all I have her up to for now

[pulsar jacinth]

help :/

[proper glade]

😂nah, I've got one myself. But I think Solise would be faster if she permanently ults. Shemira doesn't one hit them dreafs. But it would be interesting to use in other game modes as well. Not the lab tho, everything's usually dead after 2

[light vortex]

Help guys...

How to make my lineup better? Im stuck at stage 18...

[proper glade]

Depends on how fast Eironn dies, I'd say swap him with Daimon maybe.

[royal stag]

Reset shemira and lucius and push daimon to 180 (any daimon copies)

[light vortex]

So which do i use

[light vortex]

He doesnt die fast since enemies are pulled into the safiya dimension to lower their dmg

[umbral whale]

try removing mirael and use silas instead, and nara if you have one to hook isabella

[light vortex]

Mirael?

[pulsar jacinth]

nope, my silas dies immediately

[umbral whale]

Ah the silvina rip. can daimon survive long enough to kill them until isabella uses ultimate?

[pulsar jacinth]

nah, she’s always the one last alive and gets obliterated by everyone else

[umbral whale]

try using nara to cc her if you have one

you should use ferael, oden as well in the rc. good supports

[warm yew]

@light vortex reset all, make daimon your highest level, then rowan, then safiya then ferael then eiron

[rigid imp]

dude, daimon sign should be lvl 20 already and not safiya, focus on daimon next

[pulsar jacinth]

i don’t have oden at E i in fact have like 2 oden

[lunar badge]

Rushed most of chapter 15, hitting a wall at these guys, any thoughts?

[light vortex]

Noted, safiya is my highest because recently, i cant get their copies to ascend. They were stuck at 140 legendary haha

Should i change my lineup or anything? Like adding elijah etc or am i good now?

[royal stag]

How many emblems u got for daimon and rowan ?

[light vortex]

Daimon lvl 12, rowan lvl 3

Not enough stones

[royal stag]

Get daimons si to +20 and rowan to +30

[light vortex]

That will take long for me haha

[royal stag]

And maybe Swap eironn and daimon

[light vortex]

Does my lineup need any changes? Like using different hero

[royal stag]

When eironn dies to quick try Brutus

He can work at E/E+

[light vortex]

Elijah is not needed?

[royal stag]

Twins are mostly for bosses and events like ae

[warm yew]

@regal valve 22-60

[light vortex]

I see. Okay ty

[regal valve]

@warm yew bro i get it ur better, i already did 300 attempts

I am already losing my sanity over this stage

[warm yew]

No im giving u the stuff for the later stages literally took screenshots for them

[warm yew]

Send your box again

and the stage *

[regal valve]

Well it aint going to help shit becouse i dont have rowan that good and tank nor daimon

Here

[warm yew]

I dont have furn unlocked, rowan usually dies first on my stages

[regal valve]

He does tank a bit tho bro

[warm yew]

Are you able to get brutus L+? Or substitute grez?

I really think grez is your issue on your team, also swap positions with ainz and lyca

Sav will focus brutus before ainz buying you time, so lyca there is a waste so she's s actually more useful frontline ngl lol

[light vortex]

How to get ainz? I know he the best mage

[rigid imp]

if you have t2 boots and weapon maxed he will tank much longer than most tank at that point

[royal stag]

Garrison

[warm yew]

haven't unlocked t2 yet

[rigid imp]

garrison, but not recommend for you with your current stage

[light vortex]

Whats garrison

[regal valve]

He isnt buying any time i tried already, l+ brutus is not possible due to me not having enough copies

[warm yew]

And bro get that daimon M+@regal valve

[light vortex]

Sorry guys, im quite new. Only played for 2 weeks

[warm yew]

All good, im almost 2 full months in

[regal valve]

I legit need 2 more niru copies for it

I will just use my merc tommorow

[warm yew]

Bro do gb tower

[royal stag]

Look at friends

[regal valve]

Did it alr, i spent the fodder on getting him to M

[warm yew]

Oh rip

Is lucuis any help on that stage frontline?

[regal valve]

Nah he is trash, not even ulting when i put call on him

[light vortex]

Oh its only via loan? Not obtainable anymore?

[royal stag]

After 6 times its free

[light vortex]

Aw damn this sucks

[rigid imp]

7s is much longer than most tank

without enough investment other tank survive for like 2-3s

[royal stag]

But like longhop said u dont need him coz u have daimon as ur carry

[warm yew]

Man this is a tough situation

[warm yew]

Any luck with mortas on that stage for ainz ult? Call on both

[light vortex]

Yeah im surprised my daimon doing dmg because he is a tank haha. But usually my highest dmg dealth is by safiya

[rigid imp]

well his role is a tank but most of the time he's at the backline
and his dmg will always high cuz it scale with enemy stats

[light vortex]

Rowan should be at the back too right?

I feel like my current lineup needs some changes

[rigid imp]

without enough investment he will always be place at where your carry can reach his pot
with enough investment you can bring him to frontline

[light vortex]

Anyway, which artifact should daimon use?

[rigid imp]

mostly call

[light vortex]

Oh... I using grace on him omg haha

[rigid imp]

call make he use ult faster, combine with rowan energy pot (sign +30) he will ult instantly after 1 attack (well most heroes do that too )

[light vortex]

I see. Okay ty!

[pulsar jacinth]

I need to ascend my heroes but i CANT

[light vortex]

Should i replace farael with desira? Feels lile my farael not doing much

[rigid imp]

desira is even worse, she need even more investment than ferael (but with enough investment she make your team survive really really long)
just put ferael in and remove his weapon and he will do his job (this trick won't work after having 9f but that's still a long time to worry about)

[light vortex]

Wait what? Remove his weapon? Any explanation? And what's 9f

[rigid imp]

9f mean 9/9 furniture, you will unlock that later when you have 1 A hero
remove his weapon make he use normal attack instead of his ability "Accursed Arrow" (which is way too long comapre to normal attack, upto 1.5s arming), so he will use his fear ability faster

[light vortex]

Oh wow. Okay ty. How about silas?

[rigid imp]

pretty meh early game, he can't survive long enough if enemy have aoe dmg
can be use for some specific stage, require investment ( sign, furn, gear) to be actually good

[light vortex]

Ahhh shit. What is recommended to replace farael though?

[rigid imp]

nothing, you should use ferael more

[light vortex]

Because i see my farael doing nothing most of the time haha

[rigid imp]

his fear is is the thing that change your game, not his dmg
you will find that without ferael some stage become much harder because there aren't many heroes have steady and fast cc like him and actually usable without investment at all

[light vortex]

I see. Any advice on how to clear stages where enemies have both isabella + shemira? Melts me like craze

[rigid imp]

nothing, just burst them fast with daimon, if you have nara you can use her to hook isa down because shemira is a bit easier to deal with

[solemn skiff]

My lineup is the first 5. Should I use my legendary+ food on thoran or Odin?

[rigid imp]

go for oden, thoran is required but much later
give oden some good gear and he will help you a lot

[solemn skiff]

Cool thanks

[warm yew]

a

[warm swan]

@solemn skiff or you can just wait for another l+ gb fodder. By that time hopefully you will have more copies of either thoran and oden to proceed much closer to A

[warm yew]

I have 7 copies of oden and 8 on grez/thoran but got them while oden was M for a while

[hallow kettle]

so how to fix my HoE formations? i lack zolrath and alna. kelthur and theowyn and talene aren't raised so i can't stall comp well. i use this for both attack and defense, but this HoE been really rough. luc can't handle grez+alna when enemy has athalia since luc bleeds out and can't life leech enough. luc isn't consistent enough in beating out enemy flora team especially with kelthur on. and i have trouble trying to beat out enemy luc team without using my own ainz team and even then its iffy

[regal valve]

@warm yew tried again for like 50-100 times it dont work

i must change the team

yeah i must wait for merc

[umbral whale]

hello. I cleared this stage today, I can share my lineup (the stage is different but this is what I used at a lower power than it is right now around 700k). Hope it helps in some way

[regal valve]

yeah i beat that stages easily, but this one is pure pain, its just too strong

[umbral whale]

Actually I am hardstuck on this current stage

[regal valve]

this one ???

[umbral whale]

22-42

[regal valve]

put daimon instead of ferael, its easy win, put call on daimon

[umbral whale]

my daimon is weak and squishy, i tried it

[regal valve]

put best gear you have on him

[umbral whale]

yeah he is running that

[regal valve]

and ffs, level him up to 200

i just seen that he is 163, just focus on getting above 180

[umbral whale]

This is the best gear I have for him

[regal valve]

just level him up, levels are your problem

[umbral whale]

and my carry

[umbral whale]

yeah I am trying to save the exp to upgrade him, once I get some decent gear on him, I'll swtch between daimon and raku depending on stages

Brutus is the biggest problem imo, and you face him at 22-27,28,41,42 and I am guessing 43 as well, and 44 atleast

[regal valve]

he isnt problem if you can make your raku ult when they all are grouped up

[umbral whale]

how would them grouping up help tho, i am not sure on that one

[regal valve]

Better then my carries gear

[umbral whale]

levels are the biggest problem in my team then imo

[regal valve]

Daimon
Brutus
Oden
Rowan
Eirron

[pale kettle]

Good job for using Shem as ur dim fodder

[regal valve]

thats why i dont want to reset her

[pale kettle]

Mate fera fera is the problem joy the lucious lol

[regal valve]

then just swap oden and eirron and hope for the best tbh

[pale kettle]

And eirron does jack

[regal valve]

he pulls them so he can actualy tank an ghost fire from ferael

[umbral whale]

try a ferael and lyca of your own, faster ferael wins

[regal valve]

actualy no, it doesnt work like that, if he can disrupt his fire for one shot he can win it

[umbral whale]

if your ferael stuns the other one first, it stops the enemy ferael from stunning i think. not very sure about that but I think thats how it worked when I use him

[regal valve]

this is why, you want to pull their ferael, i didnt do it now and he did this much

[pale kettle]

@regal valve that team is completely different for my enemy team

[pale kettle]

@umbral whale spirits

[regal valve]

this is when i pull him, it makes him deal less, defeats spirits

[hallow kettle]

so how to beat grez alna athalia without own athalia and alna. luc team does jack squat, trying ezio instead of brutus was worthless.

[crystal vale]

(Trials of God, more like Trials of Satan...)
I need stall-breakers that don't need to use any energy. I literally cannot do a single point of damage to this team.

[rapid sage]

I'm using dimentinal Ainz carry and Morrow god comp in HOE, what 3rd team could I make?

[pale kettle]

What can I do

[hallow kettle]

gwyn across solise, twins so tasi won't banish and saurus won't get interupted, saurus for sustain, lyca to help with gwyn bursting down solise and twins get double +100 energy, arthur for mega fast firing gwyn i guess?

oh wait i don't think ur arthur has +10 oof

you have to prevent solise from ulting at all costs, because she WILL blow up your team

[crystal vale]

He does, but unfortunately I failed to restart the battle fast enough and he's down.

[hallow kettle]

ehh you can just restart this time. having twins topped off at max energy so you can ult at the start of the fight is a huge boon

[crystal vale]

So do the whole trial all over again, this time with the battle speed setting turned off. Sigh. I guess I don't have any other choice.

[pale kettle]

Can anyone help me arrange 5 teams HoE?

[pale kettle]

?

[regal valve]

@warm yew very nice

[warm yew]

bro no luck??

[regal valve]

i found a team which works

but its milisecond late with ult

[pale kettle]

?

[warm yew]

@pale kettle make mirael your highest level, reset wukong. You'll be fine since the only rc hero on your team is lyca and she's only a 1 time use for her initial haste

Id honestly use arden over desira since yours is only E

[pale kettle]

Ok bet

I really need the healing from desira

[warm yew]

Oh

Mirael at her highest level will wipe everything that early, make sure you have duras call on her tho

Removing desira was just an option, you can experiment tho

[pale kettle]

All heroes need to be level 80 plus

[warm yew]

Oh rip, do you not have enough resources?

[fresh owl]

having a hard time :(

[pale kettle]

Nah since wukong got reset who from my team should I level up?

[warm yew]

You can reset everything and get to 80 base and mirael highest for now ig btw u can hold the level button if u haven't realized that yet

[warm yew]

Ehh id say hogan then u can possibly put wulong in the rc later but he falls off drastically at level 100+

[warm maple]

Can anyone help?

[pale kettle]

K he’s gonna be my sacrifice for mireal soon away

[warm yew]

Can I see your hero box

[warm yew]

Brutus hogan frontline, mirael back mid, and rosa/arden on 3/5

Brutus infront of vedan would be ideal

[warm maple]

Ok I'll give it a shot thanks

[warm yew]

np

[warm maple]

Rosa for mireal right?

[warm yew]

Yup, if that doesnt work you could replace her with oden/daimon

[regal valve]

@warm yewpushed it

[warm yew]

Daimon

Hogan
Rowan
Thoran
Oden/optional

Experiment with those

[regal valve]

50 attempts after that new team

[warm yew]

😳 let's see if you can get ch23 today

[regal valve]

sure things sure i can let me push for it bro

[warm yew]

oo what was the new team?

[regal valve]

Lyca
Brutus
Nemora/rowan/ferael
Albedo
Ainz

[warm maple]

Nothing works I believe my heroes are to low of a level atm

[regal valve]

just spam retry

[warm maple]

K

[warm yew]

That's fine, you can give it a rest while you get more fodder - also try duras call on daimon, and depending on how close you get to finishing, spam retry(like Vedo said) because there's always rng in fights

[warm maple]

I don't kill any of em that's the thing Isabella killed everyone so fast I tried putting people to counter her but she kills them so fast

[regal valve]

they fd up early game when they buffed isabella

[warm yew]

I mean u can try nara back mid for isa?

[fresh owl]

thanks!

[warm yew]

np

@warm maple also why do u have 2 E lucius lol, just combine them

[warm maple]

Idk I was just waiting for more copies lmao

[warm yew]

Also dont make L heroes without copies ready for L+, you might get stuck waiting for heroes but since its fodder eh

[regal valve]

@warm yew yo c22 is ez

[warm yew]

fr, early c22 is cancer

[regal valve]

thoran isabella crying right now

[regal valve]

22-32 even harder xD

[warm yew]

show i forgor

[regal valve]

5x graveborm

[opaque drift]

help pls D:

[brave oriole]

@regal valve move Brutus up, remove ainz and put nara to pull safiya

[regal valve]

I finished them all

Help with this

[frozen sleet]

Im currently playing Izold,Lucius front and Shemira,Mirael,Oden back. Im f2p and would like to know which hero to invest in and what lineup would be good?

[rose parrot]

tips?

[rapid sage]

I'm using dimentinal Ainz carry and Morrow god comp in HOE, what 3rd team could I make?

[woeful arrow]

What would be a good lineup with any of these guys to progress further

[vestal grail]

Help pls I’m stuck

[warm swan]

@vestal grail brutus, daimon, rowan in position 2, 4, 5 respectively. Other 2 heroes can be flex depending on result of battle. Myb lyca and tasi. Or lucius.

[opaque drift]

anything ? :(

[warm swan]

@opaque drift try it with brutus, daimon, ainz, rowan, bedo

[gaunt dragon]

Wtf Keeping them alive

[tight juniper]

Hendrik probably, do you have an e mehira?

[gaunt dragon]

No sadly

[tight juniper]

Oof, at least tasi might work. Just your teams needs more cc type heroes. Probably, Grez, Rowan, Tasi, Fera, and Raku

[brave oriole]

Maybe nemora would help more

[gaunt dragon]

For tasi or nemora does set up matter for either

[opaque drift]

tried couple of times, not even close :(

[gaunt dragon]

Cause both are only e+

[brave oriole]

Use nara to pull safiya

[opaque drift]

need lyca, or she cant pull

tried diff comps with lyca and nara still no work

[brave oriole]

Should be okay with lyca, u don't need daimon and ainz together, Only daimon

[opaque drift]

this good?

[brave oriole]

No, bcs nara dies fast, try rowan Brutus, daimon lyca nara

[gaunt dragon]

Move ainz away from est. put Rowan in front of est and Brutus In front of Brutus

Yeah try that

[opaque drift]

tis?

[brave oriole]

Yeah, just to see if works better

[gaunt dragon]

If not, try swapping in ainz for daimon

You just need ur team to survive long enough to get ainz and Rowan ults

Do you have call on Rowan

[opaque drift]

rowan,lyca die almost instantly same with nara after she pulls , brutus dies after sheild and daimon gets 1 ult in (most of the times this happens)

[brave oriole]

Call it's not rlly that good on rowan, chalice is.

[opaque drift]

i did but she never can ult so i put the healing one(chalice of vitality)

[brave oriole]

Well, try Brutus rowan, tasi lyca daimon

Or wait you have eironn. Brutus eironn, lyca rowan daimon

If eironn cannot pull, he may need call then

[opaque drift]

if eironn is in front line i dont think he can pull ever

[brave oriole]

He should, with call

[opaque drift]

oh yea with call he does

avg is this, just cant get enough damage

[gaunt dragon]

Call on Rowan ainz usually worked for me when I was stuck. Id get ainz ult then Rowan then another ainz

[opaque drift]

but my rowan doesnt stay alive for that long to get an ult in

[gaunt dragon]

Is Brutus faced against Brutus

[opaque drift]

yes

[brave oriole]

Try nemora, instead of rowan, maybe the charm helps

[gaunt dragon]

Fae might work too

[brave oriole]

Give it a few tries to charm diff enemies

[opaque drift]

oki me try

call on her?

[brave oriole]

Well, not rlly, lyca haste it's enough, leave call on daimon eironn Only

[opaque drift]

okii