#lineup-help
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damn I even have a pretty good lucy, +30 6/9
Try it, fish some crit if have to
best i got was 15s after like 30 or so tries with lucy
With 4 other level 1 hypo in front?
im doing 2 random hypos then 2 other level 1 heroes
Make sure the other 4 dead ASAP
since i dont have 5 hypos
ur comp on 29-52 doesnt work for me daimon just dies instantly
nice i switched up the 2 non hypos and it worked 🙂
wut
cheers
maybe you need some rng, cuz when i tried your comp my daimon die really fast too and only when rng happen he can finish his job 
nah cant do it athalia literally one shots me
can you take a picture ?
Should I get twins?
Could anyone help please?
have you tried this ?
daimon with call
brutus
eironn
thoran
nara with call and your best boots after daimon(if ferael then remove his weapon)
It was close but didnt cut it
I tried several times and tried rotating them around too
rotating them won't give good result cuz their position is the key
What is killing your team?
That worked rhanks
Read the pins in #classic-questions on who to use
I’ve read them but I still don’t understand
What do you not understand? Wu level 100 can carry but after level 100, Mira carries your team.
😐 I didn’t read that part 😂
have you tried this with ferael weapon removed ?
cuz that comp have a good win chance imo
yeah ive been leaving ferael without weapon for a while now
maybe this
daimon
brutus
rowan
thoran
ferael
Think I just don't do enough damage
I need some sorta good support that can actually stun more. I feel like everyone that's not daimon and Rowan does absolutely nothing
daimon 203 definitely have enough dmg tbh, its just about rng
RNG does get annoying :( last time I had to do like 178 tries same formation

Any ideas?
put daimon somewhere isabella can't suck his energy
have you tried this
daimon
brutus
eironn
thoran
ferael
swap daimon and lyca, then swap lyca with brutus
remember to give daimon dura's call or he can't use his shield before enemy arden root him
Yes ferael and eronn are useless and thoran gets 1 shot
I really like the thoran kelthur nara comp
But Im not really good yet I'm only playing for 1 1/2 month now
If anyone can help me out… trying to rush these 10 stages for chapter 29 chest reward
Keep on getting out healed sadly
Damn that's quite a power difference :O
its normal
rip free hero chest
Help me pla im stuck for weeks
What’s the issue ? Like too little damage or they kill u too quickly ?
You were at 14-40 three hours ago, why are you lying lmfao
About lying idk what ypu are talkin about haha i done previous chapter i send i just got 1 tank more instead of healer now i need help with this
Isabella destroys my damon ://
I know I'm wayy too early game to get some real helps, but should I reset Mirael to level up Wu?
@fiery wing I figured out on mine maybe u can try this
One of my guildies helped me out
thanks i already cleared that but im stuck on the next stage
Help pls
Haha me too
I need help how i can counter isabelle
try
brutus rowan frontline, with brutus in front of warek
eironn middle back
daimon/lyca in either corner.
if it doesnt work play around with the formation, like swapping lyca with brutus if theyre on the same side
or swapping rowan and daimon to the top if the bottom doesnt work
cus youre up against a ferael, retries are prolly gna be required to get better rng
cool
how do you guys deal with brutus? He is messing up my raku chain ultimate
I need help on this stage but more specifically a way to deal with brutus
fawkes coffin tends to remove him from the field cus he tends to haveh ighest combat rating. also fawkes ult removes his shield
otherwise outsurvive his bubble with int/agi heroes dodging him and then your carry finishes him off
Help for this stage if possible ?
yeah thats pretty much how I have been beating him up until now, raku just dodges consecutively(sometimes), I was not sure if there's a better way. Also is there a different way other than fawkes coz he isnt in my wishlist
dont you get a copy of fawkes from chapter clear rewards?
ah nevermind, you only get him from ch25 clear
oof this chapter is such a nightmare, there's so many more brutus stages to come
Damion should be able to outlive him if u trained him up
nah have him at elite, I use a raku
You can refers to https://afkhelper.nax.is/
let me know if u figured something out haha
actually i had the line up the problem is thoran not tanky enough
oof i remember this one was a nightmare. lemme see if i can find my clear
hmm i dont have a screenshot of it, but i believe i used
oden 203 warden
lyca 200 shroud
mehira e+ book
rowan 300 call
ainz 309 warden
my rc was similar to yours too, cus im at 37-05 now (gna stay here deliberately, was stuck at 37-04 for about 10 days) and my rc is 371 now
feel like im getting weaker at chapter 10 atm, what can i do better / change
What does a normal thoran cheese team look like? (Ch 35 and above)
Lucius is doing fuck all for you
you will feel weaker as you progress 
Thoran Flora Pippa Ezizh Lorsan is usually the start, then you adjust based on enemy
Thanks!
Do you have Nara
i dont think so i think thats all the rc so uh
nope
try uh
daimon
lucius/brutus
rowan
lyca
shemira
idk tho prob not work
i can get daimon to legendary+ when i can ascend him
do u have another E+ daimon
well no but when i finish the event yes ill have another e+
Help me beating this lvl isabella is undestructable
show ur heroes lol
use nara dude
You have Nara
She can pull a enemy so they almost get lock out the entire fight
how about
daimon
brutus
lyca
thoran
nara
also u could try eironn instead of lyca
nara pulls so it can attack the isabella
Not working
ah what happens
also in mnie grezhul gives me more problems than ferael my team always loses against grezhul
ah i see the isabella gets shield oof
Video
you say its not working, but he suggested a team that you didnt use
your nara is too slow, nara must knock her down before she got disrupted
give her the call
I do lol i know what i do not everything must be recorded
I think ferael is the main problem because he makes your team lose energy
should i try it 300 times like that?
i tried charming ferael with nemora and tried trapping him with fawkes but none of that worked
i understand, its just the optics of it is so lol. anyways, give it a bunch more retries, this kind of stuff isnt always gna win the first time you try it
Not working either
what happens when you use that comp lol
i would never put daimon frontline unless enemy doesn't have high burst dmg hero
daimon
brutus
eironn
lyca
nara
but this prob not gonna work
Nvm i done it
o ok
30 more trys thank you ❤❤❤
lol
imagine doing thoran cheese 
how does thoran cheese even work
lol
well that's much later, but you will have to retry a lot
can you explain who should be back for the thing u saisd for me ?
i said
daimon
rowan
shemira
but idk if that will work lol
front?
front i said
brutus
lyca
it didnt work ill wait 4 days to get another companiin
mm what happened
i wanna cry @elfin cloak
why what happened
team lost fast
o oooof
Halp
@cerulean nimbus try this
Daimon
Wukong
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi
No luck
maybe like this
daimon
lucius
gwyneth
granit
tasi/ferael
@cerulean nimbus try this
Oden
Rowan
Daimon
Wukong
Tasi
I’ll try both of those comps
This worked thank you

Been stuck here for a little while.
Any sugestions?
Hey guys, which is the best for PvP?
Im using those 3, but i think i can make better teams with the heros i have, someone can help me?
Those are my heroes.
swap daimon and rowan ?
what about
daimon
brutus
rowan
lyca
nara
if u dont need the haste use lucius instead of lyca
but idk if itll work so
@elfin cloak HOW ABOUT NOW
uhhhh what u showing me lol who are the enemies
Ill try those
this
did u try it yet
i lost immediately
LOL uh show ur heroes again
Ya
canu record what happens lol
You need an Albedo
i mean you dont need one but its helpful cuz rn i only have ainz and its working quite well tbh
Albedo and Merlin... Would be a good team up with Ainz... Or Arthur
yea tru tru
wtf
Something like this... A easy 150+ deficit team... If you use Arthur... Probs over 200+
mhm mhm
@lusty ferry do you have Pippa or Izold?
i dont think so
Lao... Are you qinto?
nope im just saying based on his heroes box i dont think theres a pippa or izold
but it could be there just not on the RC so idk
You seem to be the same person lol... It's hard to tell lol
not lao im trying to figure how tyo record bluestacks
Oh... So qinto... You got either Oden or Pippa? I meant Oden not Izold lol
ya i was wondering cuz izold kinda meh
none
Izold is actually a carrying god lol... But he don't work for all lol
Dam... Then try- Thoran, Lyca, Eironn, Rowan, Tasi
I'll be back in like 10min
Pm me if you don't win
almost won sadly
Never got a pm which I guess means he won
always almost end up winning
lost way fastert
eironn gets 1 shotted
Ouuu i switched eironn and tasi and it worked better
@grizzled mulch this are my artifacts btw
how about tasi and rowan ?
Rowan needs Duras Call... Tasi does as well... Use the Duras eye with Eironn... If too many people use duras call it lowers its effects by a lot
lyca?
Keep duras eye
should i adjust lyca and eironns gear?
Probably not
okamy
Which team has done the best so far? Or line up i should say
this one in this stage mostly i used Lucius,Estrilda,Shemira,Rowan,Lyca
So that team lasted the longest against the enemy?
Oh i won i think oh she was left with 1 pixel of hp
i can ascend eironn to legendary but i lose E+ of lyca i think
Nooo dont do that... Also show me the enemy team
Search my name up in the friends list and add me
oh i can use 2 Iras to make eironn legendary also the enemy
Afk friends list... Not discord
added
K
should i make eironn legend
If you need a merc for the mission... I would send a request lol... Also that would still be a no... If you cant get Eironn to L+ then don't do it
only if you can make him L+
Read the guide I linked earlier
Plus... You have two E+ iras... You can save up two random fodded then use the two iras to make L+ ira and then make Lyca M+
oh okay
Reset Arden and Hogan first
Then level up Thoran to 80 if possible... If 80 is reached... Then level up Wukong with the remains
Ok
What should I do for my line up?
He’s level 80
Level up Wukong then
Could we go dms? So we can speak fast
Once you catch them up... Use this team- Thoran... Lucius... Desira... Mirael... Wukong
Kren is actually op carry fyi
This is my team currently
what? lol
Everyone tells me wukong is trash…
wukong can pop damage early game tho
Oof I wanted thoran as my carry but that doesn’t work does it?
Daimon is key
Not until he's mythic with +30
i love her i wish i had extras of her
Wukong carries to chapter 31 if you are invested to him like my friend... But he's not really worth it... Hes good carry for first few chapters mainly bc he can fill the 3rd spot for the faction bonus... So hes ok but not good
I need daimion I only have him in labryinth
Daimon is a guy.....
ops
😂 why did I waste a text with an emoji
Not really, Luc can get much better results
but what should i do about my team any suggestions?
Thoran needs a pippa or oden
Yeah but unless you get lucky drop from summon... Luc isnt an option till chapter 16
If you couldnt tell by their heros... They arent in 16 yet lol
WHY DID MY TRIAL HERO GO DOWN SO MUCH 😭 he carried me…
Also i agree Luc is def the best way
Should I change any characters?
If you get a Thoran i would def use the following...
Thoran... Rosaline... Pippa... Rowan... Silas
what about diamon?
Swap Raine out with Rosaline tho... Have Rosaline follow Rowan
Ahh... You're right... Dont use Rosa for first comp... Use daimon... Tbh I forgot you had him lol
Just resetted my units which ones do I focus on
so what is my team with diamon?
Legit same team... But use Rosa instead of Raine... Have Rosa follow Rowan
what do you mean follow?
Oh lol
Ramen can you help
Use- Thoran, Rosa, Pippa, Rowan, Estrilda
Same level or do I upgrade some more than the others
You'll get a faction bonus with the team
Main Thoran... Then Rowan... Keep Thoran and Rowan 20 lvs above everyone
Holy…
What?
the levels lol
Oh
Ur really good!
Anyone can get really good tbh
Lol
Help pls
what’s a good stable team with daimon here?
post your whole box
if you put daimon frontline does he die right away?
Yep
oden
lucius
rowan
lyca
daimon
:(
?
Not working
you might try Brutus frontline or just wait for levels
his brutus is lvl 1 so no shield
Im not lucky with daimın summon or rowan..
. 🙏
Help
im not that good but have u tried rowan in the middle?
also ur oden can get gear
Nah not working
Try
Daimon
Rowan
Mireal or Oden
Brutus
Lyca
If it doesn't work just keep swapping them and hope for rng
Do I reset wukong or Mirael to get Daimon up?
When you have 4 copies of daimon
Otherwise just follow the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
And resonate daimon
A single lvl 100 hero is the first goal, reset both
Daimon 100, 4 others 60
Tasi in crystal
Pretty sure Wu Kong lvl 100 is more than enough tho
And L+ mirael can carry forward when hits lvl 100 cap
Help im stuck daddy 😘
oof wait till 15-40 im tsuck here alkso
Nara hook that bow boi ferael
whos that boi
There’s only one bow boi
ngl u are real chief brother @slim portal
My advice was targeted towards progression today and next 2 days
Daimon in the crystal at lvl 60 is big waste if you're not ch. 8
Now this shit oof
You right, daimon can push super fast
well... my daimon can't get me past 6-16 😔
You eironn at behind centre, lyca takes Brutus place, ditch thoran and Brutus takes over thoran place
Like am I doin' something wrong here that doesn't jump in front of my eyes?
I see no lvl 100 Daimon
Why ?
Guess you need a bit patience. Tasi > chicken btw
i just hit the 24h mark on the game maybe that's why
Wukong instead if Saurus. So you have faction bonus active
Oden
Wu
Mirael
Daimkn
Tasi
You redeemed all codes, played candy crush, other peak of times?
yep
This?
did it work?
Nope
Yes
lucious weak af, this isnt 2019, you could use him teorethicaly but it would be better if you got daimon and brutus, ainz earlygame is not that good becouse no SI20
Swap Nara with Eironn, your eironn too soft
not working :/

any other tactics?
Did eironn dead instantly?
yes only tempest cast and dead
Daimon takes eironn place and put thoran at daimon place
omfg it worked tysm ❤️
No fuxkin way
how do i beaty
Show box
maybe yes i was
Me unfamiliar with off meta heroes, but I’ll hook Isabella on opponent team
with who
Maybe coffin boy or something idk, I just started a month plus ago
I’m not familiar with off meta heroes as said
my daimon carreid 15-40
I started playing last night and I cant get past this level, is my lineup the problem or do I have to upgrade more? or is it both
Read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
Also remember to claim all redemption code
https://afk.guide/redemption-codes/
oh thanks babe
Halp
Try pull ferael with a Nara
Help
Level Wukong to 81 instead
Reset thoran
Wukong 100, desira 60, lyca 60, lucius + mirael 60
No weird double 80 or sth.
A single lvl 100 will carry most
still just get stunned into oblivion. daimon gets 3 ults off at most
Who should I replace with thoran
Do you knows there’s a feature called as resonating? You can literally resonate hero level instead of keep resetting one
i keep on forgetting about it haha 
what if i need him a higher levels
And stop making legend hero, do it for fodder hero
You don’t at very early game, focus to level your fodder hero to L+
so mirael?
Those ascended hero can stays at E+ and have them in resonating crystal
Have you read pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions yet? You can tell your daimon literally stuck at legend now until you have 2 more copies of him
ah interesting
so i should just make fodder heroes immediately L? but not others as in ascension tier one
The beginner guide tells all
it’s words are all complicated 
Ascension hero as in those with 4 skills
Read it you pepega, it helps you to make good investment, so you don’t stuck at early level for a whole year 
It has pictures too
will you help me make a lineup though 
Lineup on early level is literally a core carry + 2 paper tanks + 2 support
Core carry 20~ level or so higher than the others post level 100
i wanna put thorne as a tank
Put him in resonating crystal then
yes i know but who should i swap out. pippa silas or tasi
Ditch your Lucius 
but I need 2 tanks 
Your daimon is like 30 levels higher than the others, if he can’t tank, nobody else can
except a Brutus probably
swap him to back roll when he can’t tank anymore
dang ok, but what about later if i need bulky
Then you talks again later 
When you have more heroes in your box, instead of few kittens and doggies
Also remember to claim redemption code
already did
yup that’s how i got thorne
@fair kayak rowan, brutus, daimon, fera, grez. Or myb granit for last spot. Idk how good the new mauler is
@pulsar jacinth can you send me the pfp
LMAO
@pulsar jacinth how old ur account already ?
6 days :)
u should try build 5 graveborn for full buff to ur Daimon
maybe that will help for progress
do i have all hero tho
u should have 5 graveborn
any help? :{
it can be any grave born?
sure
like u say earlier u want to change someone to thoran
and add 2 more random graveborn
just to get the 25% buff
i have to check it later but thanks :)
Buff is negligible at very early level 
Should focus on formation more
Instead of forcing 5 graveborn in a team, that’s useless
Lyca/Arden/Brutus/Rowan/Rosaline etc are great pick for early game that isn’t graveborn
but im able to push till this far on 2 days
@opaque drift try it with rowan, brutus, eirron, daimon, lyca
Any artifacts I can change / heroes to put in to pass this team?
@pale kettle doesn't mean a thing. Team synergy > faction bonus
You wont stuck on current level if have Arden and Nara in your team
but how to make a synergy if ur other heroes get 1 shotted by ogi earthquake ?
already tried around 60 times, dying way too quickly
u dont know what happen on this current stage bro
my thoran die on 2 hit by ogi
and after that he throw someone to backline and instantly kill them
those heroes doesnt even have chance to cast skill
bcz of the earthquake
Yes, you speak like I’ve never beaten this level
Ditch your cancer terminal stage pale boi away and have crowd control hero in, instead of letting opponent ogi go rampage
@opaque drift sorry about that. brutus, thoran front. eirron, rowan, daimon. Can eirron ult? How many times? Which enemy is being the most pain?
eironn usually cant ult but ill try this
@slim portal @pale kettle let's keep it to line-up help guys. If you want to argue with each other, go to dms.
the situation here is only 2 days in the game
not much resource to put on so the best way i think is to get full faction buff instead of ur synergy
don't u get it bro ?
Sry, I’ll put a stop here
Let’s agree to disagree
eironn got a ult using this but died after and we lost the fight, daimon dies before him, i changed it and brutus is infront of daimon so daimon doesnt die in 2 secs
shemira and silva are being a big pain and sometimes brutus is also a pain(according to damage)
@opaque drift ah crap. Sorry can't help you. Your levels are not too far to the enemies so this should really be passable
no worries brother i appreciate the help :D ill just try a few more tries maybe its a rng fight
Any help with my pvp formations? Going to need two more for hoe.
heres what it looks like :D
Is this stage impossible to beat without call 5* or higher level? 😭
@proven magnet is it supposed to be lyca on that spot? Or daimon? I seem to remember it was daimon. I passed that at rc 369 with no 5* call
Do you have enough red chest to SI30 rowan? It makes rng a lot easier
Also your tree has 15 point on spell, but your core carry daimon is a tank
I think these minor adjustment make it easier to beat your current stage, instead of fishing crit and rng dodge
i have 255 red chests in total i am saving up for 300 and the reason my tree is on mage is cause Ainz carried me till chapter 26 so he was my main carry
Understandable, but it’s daimon now
So probably switching it does help in current stage
gotcha
so tank to 15 and mage to 10 is good enough?
I’ve found this 4 star dura’s call and similar level to yours in https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=36&stage=60, you can refer to other team as well
Sounds good, but I’ll just copy pasta the guide I’m following
(1.73) Bob49's F2P PVE Elder Tree Guide: 5 All, 15 Carry, 15 Cele, 15 Sust, 30 Cele, 15 Fort, 22/25 Sust, 10 Might, 15/20 Sorc, 45/47/50 Cele, 37 Sust, 37 Fort, 47 Sust, 47 Fort, 25/27 Sorc, 77 Cele, 62 Sust/Fort (then the other), full send Cele
Cele is by far the best branch so if you want to reach all of those breakpoints promptly, that’s also a good choice. Sust/Fort are 2nd/3rd, depending on who you ask, if you're trunk-capped and can't follow the above.
ty :)
what team could i make in hoe besides ainz?
Would anyone be able to help me with HoE line up in DMs? Trying to understand PvP better but am still a noob. I can tip you in crypto.
I need defense and offense teams ty
Has anything been made for this?
It worked thanks
stuck on 11-40
@ebon bobcat I don't see how we can properly give you a line-up if we don't know your enemies. So I'll just throw something like this: brutus, estrilda, shem, rosa, arden. Rosa to follow shem
Any good teams y’all recommend to use for hero’s of esperia?
albedo e60 lucius 9f, shem +30 hurts a lot. Just try running the usual ainz team, 5 pull luc, gb(would do grez alna but you have neither)
Thank you @dull flame
np
This is something that’s been troubling me for a couple of days
Gwyn sucks, usually I would recommend an ainz from garrisons but leornado is here 
Where’s your Arden
in any case gwyn goes at position 5...
I have used her to soul fuse ainz and LB tower only….
true
I unfused Leo from gwyn
Stop making legend hero, and have fodder to legend+
Now you’re stuck at 140 because of this
Read pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
I have ascended gwyn to mystic+ as well during chapter 13
But I didn’t use her as core carry and soul fused her to ainz
Ainz carried me to chap 16 until I have 4 daimon
I forgot how to get garrison characters how do I do that?
friends-->garrison
you should look for guildsd with garrison
thats how that works right ror am i ddum dum
I won’t recommend to garrisons one unless you have spare after exchanged leornado
I have spare
Sounds good
I just got oden I beat the stage should I add him
No, focus on your 5th fodder legend+
Unless you wants to stay at 140 forever
Read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
I think you'd have better luck with something like Rowan, Rosa or Tasi, Nara, Brutus, Diamon or Ainz
Try
Nara
Granit
Eirron
Lyca
Luc
im having trouble with this level..
these are my characters that I have at the moment..
I can’t use lvl 10
Any ideas?
(WTA) Need help/suggestions to craft team for chapter 34. (3 teams) Tq
fir lvl 100 u need the other 4 to be lvl 60
I see you're really pushing this recently. 🙂
Maybe try
Daimon
Thoran
Rowan
Rosa
Saveas
who did silvina attack first ? rowan or rosa
Hey just wondering if there's like a guide to best arena teams since heroes of esperia is out, if not can someone help me optimise my teams? Here's my roster
Reset thoran
Wukong 100, desira 60, lyca 60, lucius + mirael 60
No weird double 80 or sth.
A single lvl 100 will carry most
Rose if I don't have kelthur
Help please
swap thoran and lyca then replace lyca with brutus, thoran won't tank long enough and shemira will destroy your daimon with her beam
Hi, could you please help me? 😊
Hi guys. I need help with team comp.
This is my roster
Any ideas?
lvl 100 wukong can beat that alone
follow guide from #classic-questions in pinned, maybe switch lucious and eirron
brutus instead of grez would work
Ok
Ok I’ll try thanks
Silas is a normal hero or can we make food out of him?
no no no no absolutely no dude
why?
avoid fodder 4skill heroes
and silas is an important hero
Thank you, I tried to swipe them several times… I think maybe my team is just still to weak… anyway thank you !
dont fodder him, he is very important, you can get normal fodder instead bro
Thank you
Thank you
someone down to help me setup 5 teams for HoE?
Im using the top 4 comps and the fifth is random bs. Those 4 could be outdated as far as im concerned
I want the bunny girl and racoon what’s should I do?
Anyone know why I can't kill Warek and Grez with first ult?
What's the best support for Alna + lucretia in pvp? Currently don't have enough for GB + Alna. So I just put those together in Hoe. Currently using twins, lorsan and Queen. (and I can't do 5-pull)
Trying to figure a good team setup for later on. Just got Oden to 5 star by swapping with Shemira who was not doing as well. Kinda noticed Oden and Raku are funny as a team
Read the pins and stop making L heroes.
Ive been stuck here for weeks, pls help
Suggestions?
Need help with this stage
how about this
ainz
rowan
brutus
grez
merlin
I will try
Literally got it first try with your help
I've been away so long I don't know good pvp comps, can someone gib me advice on line up for HoE
Soo...idk what they will be used for but can someone help me make 3 teams with my units for future exploration events and the PvP even that's going on right now
what about
oden
thoran
mirael
saveas
rowan
or maybe tasi for saveas idk
this flops even harder
oooof can u show me like the damage chart or what happens cuz idk what happens lol
enemy damage?
oh oof idk uhhhh
Can someone help me make 3 good teams for HoE?
Sorry I’m not good at making teams so I can’t help you
I’m stuck on this stage can someone help me
oof u went far im still stuck on 20-52
I got my Ainz to 240 and then he just destroy the other team
ah fair enough
Can any1 help me with line up i have loads of xp to make 5 heros lvl 100
read pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions please
Focus on your fodder heroes, they are guarantee L+, instead of stuck at 140 Legendary
Any suggestions?
how many do u gots lol
Wukong Flora Twins
Luc Ezizth
Yet I’m 14 chapters ahead of him 😞
lol i has
wukong athalia flora talene zaphrael
leofric lucretia zikis
lucretia >>>>>
sadge mine only elite lucretia tho i need to pull moreeee
Why does everyone use Brutus for this stage in thoran comp
I have not got a single celestial or hypogene from noble tavern
ripppp
😦 anyways any one want to help me with this stage I’m stuck
I need a consistent second team for hoe (so besides ainz) any good one i could do with what i have?
lucretia 5 pull
cant
oh rip i see no chicken but lucretia cheese still works
I cant beat this one. anything i can do
Don't frontline diamon
then who should i put front
Tasi probably
i might need a better early game team, is the team i have right now enough?
i feel like daimon isn't a super good carry without his SI
in my opinion, he carry’s every match i’m in
mirael may be better though
i can put her in :/
Diamon should be fine tbh
not a job done well, you have no +30's, and not many built hypo celes, what were you going for in the past events? Your investments into non-meta heroes are questionable, such as getting shemira lucius and saurus 5*, the lvl of investment on shem belinda and lucius is atrocious, do you just ascend who you have copies of? Because drez, estrilda, hendrik, khasos, kaz, thane, nemora, ulmus, vurk are extremely not needed, there are higher priorities for all of those factions. If you are stargazing, which you should be, I suggest stargazing for lucretia first, then go for alna. Why? Because alna is an enabler, lucretia is a carry. And frankly speaking, you have no well built carry other than a poorly invested daimon. Look up the wishlist guide in #classic-questions , see what your missing, change it up, and get yourself together if you want to progress. Take the initiative to look up some guides on reddit(afkreddit), keep track of the news, watch big afk arena youtubers like Volkin Games and Furry Hippo Gaming.
I should also add, engraving on saurus is absolutely wasted, especially since he isn't even +30. Ainz is not an option as a carry yet, because he has absolutely no investment, and there isn't an albedo either. Daimon might work, but you lack nesccery support for him(rowan +30, his own +30 and 3f, fereal, silas, grez, etc). I see your building skriath, but what about eironn? You need both for 5 pull.
Hope this helps, feel free to dm me if you have questions
Can someone help me out getting 5 comps together for HoE? I have no clue about pvp comps
I'm not super well trained in pvp, but I know of all the comps used, send your heroes
top 4 formations are those im using but I think they might be outdated. For the fifth team Im just using random bs...
Anyone have a suggestion on guild hunt line ups , I dk if anything has changed
saurus rosa twins warek raine 3F
your grez isn't 9f ouch
ainz team is fine, but why don't you have a tidus for 5 pull?
ye Im working on him rn but rng isnt on my side @dull flame
@maiden marsh can you take over? Something came up, gtg
what is my Tidus missing and who would I swap him out for?
I don't have raine @maiden marsh
merc one
i’m having trouble in campaign, my team is falling apart. any help?
There's so many people asking for help..., this is why I suggested this#classic-suggestions message
- arthur albedo ainz merlin ezio
- alna grezhul ferael silas/oden/desira athalia
- lucretia twins ezizh rowan skreg
- eironn prince/nako/saurus gwyn lyca lorsan
- thoran talene kelthur flora wukong
merc the raine, you have the rest of the team ready
Does it matter that my Flora isnt stacked yet?
the stall team isn't really there to win anyways, just to trip up some awful team sent against it
ah good to know. One more question about the Eironn comp. Why not 5 pull with Skriat?
budget burst > 5 pull for the most part
not that it particularly matters, burst goes to the attacker most of the time
my team is falling apart in campaign. would anyone help me find heroes who are successful in the current stage i’m on?
Could you at least post your current stage and box, and we’ll see what we can do
Thanks alot! What hero apart from finishing 9f for grez and merlin would you suggest I focus on next? @maiden marsh Im leaning towards Si30 on Silas-Oden-Skriat
And this is my whishlist
Read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
Like, stop making legend without 4 copies and focus on five of your E+ fodder
i’ve read it before that’s how i got my team but it’s falling apart. i dunno which heroes are more successful
i mistimed it, i just need one more daimon anyways
Wut…you should have levelled five of your fodder heroes, rather than E hero capped at 100…
wait why should i level fodder heroes if i’m just gonna feed them
what should my heroes of esperia teams be (ainz estrilda link) (rosaline albedo link)
Read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions and stop making legend ascension hero
Read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions please
Fodder heroes are guarantee to L+
That’s level 160 guaranteed
And you can uses resonating crystal for the others
Exactly, and most ascension hero works fine in E in early game
Now your core carry daimon stuck at 140 unless you have an extra copy of him
How to kill 2 backlines first
but i don’t have any other fodders, at most i have a L mirael
Focus to make your daimon 140 first, and you can uses thoran and da Vinci in front line
i only need 1 more daimon copy
tried a lot of combinations following afk helper, tried 100+ time using macro but I can't, can someone help plz ?
Less offensive front line, like Brutus and Thoran etc
Offensive back line like gwyn who focus on back role
Do you means your thoran team doesn’t work or can’t beat all 5 stages?
my thoran team doesnt work
I managed to win all other 4 stages
bump
Your team lacking signature items and furniture to make effective one, but I’ll just simply post PvP team here, credit to the author
As a reference only, since you’re lacking signature items and furniture
lacking signature items like +1 or +10
+20/30 and 3f/9f
so basically im not ready to do it yet
Lika is good with 20+?
Makes some minor adjustments and should works against lower tier players, but it won’t work on higher tier when it starts getting competitive
Ye, PvP is the most competitive one…basically make sure it works fine in lower tier and you’re good
👍👍
I don't have any Formation except ainz
悲しいね, you can make a few team follows the image
anyone got a thoran cheese comp for r1 of 37-4 without 5* call?
can someone help me make three diffrent teams (no repeating units)? DM is okay
I usually just try to make everybody in one line up from one group, so you got a full Mauler, Wilder, and Lightbearer lineups right there, but don’t listen to me. I’m bad and haven’t played in a while anyway so… But it’s an idea
Of ascendeds
Any opinions on who I should focus on next. Daimon is my main guy and trying to build around him
Elrond is always a pain in my ass. I guess him
I might but does he work well with a Daimon team?
sometimes
What comp do I use in HoE event? I'm truly lost
You're too new of a player to have any real pvp teams so go with whatever
How about for campaign/Tower?
What hero level do they have in hoe for you?
I would probably go daimon lyca arden eironn Silas
Cuz my Daimon just got to SL 20 and he didn't push too far
In that combination so daimon and lyca front and arden eironn Silas back
252
Yea so they have all skills unlocked which makes it more useful to use E copies of eironn etc than L's of fodder
Just keep arden for the cc and faction bonus in the lineup
So this team?
I'll go ahead and try it
I guess you are in hoe with 1 team only or is multi battles already?
1 team currently
(the amount of teams you need differs in your rank) alright yea then go with that and see if you can win some
Edit:it's probably going to be hard though
Last row of heroes don't show, maybe one of them is important?
Good HoE lineup? I want something which doesn’t leave me trapped at b1
Also I have an e lorsan but it’s not in pic
Could someone help with my lineup? The nemora heals too much
I have my ainz comp and Lucretia 5-pull comp
I need a 3rd lineup tho and my grez is very weak rn
any suggestions?
Grez brutus daimon silas ferael but make silas and maybe diamon si30
Replace Pippa with nara and switch positions for nara and tasim Daimon, Luci, Nara, Silas and Tasi
i don’t have nara
Do you at least have athalia at e??
who the heck is that
??? Athalia, literally the first person you see on top of portraits
oh, no 
Cecilia?
nope 
Oof, then level mirael and put her in the middle
and replace pippa?
Yes
this is like just for this level right? or should i just place mirael in the middle forever
Probably forever but whatever floats your boat. Shes a nice early carry
early as in till chapter 22 ish?
I'm unsure about that tbh, just maybe ch 17-18~ish? I'm not that much of an expert lol
but i’ll use mirael until then?
Yeah
should i just like reset pippa
Sure, they're only elite and you would want to level your heroes higher tier they are
Yeah
time to spend a lot of resources to get mirael to level 120 
pretty sure mirael last until chap 13/14
She isn’t good to fight against higher level deficits
Where is your Arden
That’s still like 5 chapters away so it’s still early
?
Mirael is good when her level isn’t too far away than opponent, I had her 140 at stage 9
Literally
Wdym at stage 9
Oh sorry Arden, what about him
One of the best crow control at early level
Till what chapter?
Chapter 9, typo
Make sure you core carry level is always higher, at least 20~
I just need 1 more daimon 
Since im replacing my pippa with mirael should I restart pippa?
Yes. You're pippa is capped at 100 anyway. Your L mirael can go higher on lvl
alr
Prioritize getting fodders to l+ and lvling them up. A tier heroes can be put in rc slots anyway.
FINALLY I BEAT IT
Who should be my next stargaze ?
Lucretia and this goes to #classic-questions
Ok
wait why does mirael look like she does 0 damage 
Because you’re under level + your frontline tanks and crowd control heroes didn’t buying enough time for her
what do you mean by buying time?
Literally, time to cast ultimate and damaging
yeah but when she does it doesn’t seem to affect the enemies
Because you’re under level as said
when’s her power spike
Also placing her at back centre position, so she can damage the whole area
my silas is getting obliterated every time. is there anything i can do?
daimon
arthur/thoran
rowan
brutus
oden
give it a try
It worked, thanks
New challenge tho @rigid imp
that time my team was
daimon
rowan
nara
brutus
ferael
but it require lots of retries tho
@rigid imp definitely took a lot but it worked, finally finished ch 27
what to use im stuck
Hi stuck, your core carry should be level 160 by now, stop wasting fodder to make legendary ascension hero, read pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions
;-; don't I need 5 legend plus things
To avoid being level capped, yeah. But you should level your main carry further than everyone else.
ok well now my Shem is lvl 160 which means ainz is too and it doesn't make a difference cuz my tanks are ass
You can always use Brutus to stall
Brutus is poop and you can't change my mind
Hes there for the shield
I need some help here
Aww man i dont have Oden
There’re like more than 30 team there around your level or under, not all of them uses Oden 
Anyone can help me out here? Tried afkhelper teams but so far not working so well..
Which team are you struggling on? You should use Lucretia in a separate comp so that everyone else dies, since your Ainz team wants to live.
Oh ye ik that, ainz comp is able to beat either team 1 or 2, its team 2 and 3 that im struggling on. I tried using luc brutus and 3 hypo for team 3 but enemy brutus kills luc everytime he goes into immunity
Daimon comp doesnt work either even though on afkhelper i see people did it with lower lvl, Im not sure what im missing
trying to pass this trial. this is the closest i've gotten. in the end it's always baden vs antandra and khasos but he's got too many shadows
thanks i'll give that a try
worked! thank you!
It's possible with either different artifacts or it takes a crazy amount of rng. Try to reposition your 2nd team like Fera, Brutus, Tasi, Oden, and Daimon. If fera dies, might as well try again with shroud, just make him stun faster. Personally, you can try to Lucretia cheese on the 2nd one, just use eironn as a pull but and add some heroes to help her survive a bit more like Brutus. (Wait does shroud unlock for you?)
Yep i have shroud unlocked, ill try that tks
Or you can take off his weapon to stun faster (i forgot about that)
I got team 3 and team 1 down, just team 2 left
Did you use the same teams from above?
Team 3 i replaced with raku mehira team, still struggling with team 2
The heals from rowan is so much
You have Ferael, and he does decreasing healing rate unless you're using him in a different team
I got it! Tysm for for ur help 
Any advice? Beat the first two but I don't know how to beat this with what I have left
Gimme a team
need help i really want to finish c29 soo bad
Eironn, Lyca, Diamon, Rowan, fereal
what order?
In that order 1-5
Any help?
I need help
What should i go for now? Working towards max tidus and alna, anything else?
Looking for help can’t progress any further
Biggest mistake is that u ascended them to legend, you should of waited to make them e+ to leg+
Mirael front. Lucius out - Tasi or Arden in
Just an idea, try distract brutes
with what? he can 1 shot everyone except my brutus and raku(coz he dodges)
Uhm what?
Ok
Should I reset Lucius?
And upgrade mireal cuz she’s nearly legendary
it’s better to wait and wait and get more copies of one hero because you might be stuck on a i leg like u are. I did the same and I was too far into the game too fix it so I just reset and moved severs
You can do that, level up Arden instead
You need 5 heroes after all
K
Uhhh 😬 idk make something into a tank????
brutus is probably the only one who can tank, other 'tanks' get 1-2 shot
I just need one more elite plus
How are u in 22 and not have a mythical +????
What about tasi
Look at raku 0_0
So if i have a lot of copies of one what Can you do with that
How tho???? He’s lvl 85 aswelll
I think you watched a different raku lol, look at my box
She's lvl 60 like most your supp rn
Idk man go ask a pro 😤
Cuz of the temple
Pick one guy from each faction and focus on them tbh
Only lvl 5 heroes.
Wukong 100 , 4 others at 60 = efficient
After 24h you should reach ch. 7/8 @bold smelt
Ok
I’ll use that advice aswell
Any recommendations for which lb to ascend?
raine +10 3F for campaign,ae,boss > estrilda 3F for TR > hendrik
Okay! Thank you
morrow hasnt found any comps yet on campaign 
take out ainz and put in your own farael or use nara on the enemy farael
i'll give you my idea on this
the only tank that can tank enemy brutus at this stage is your brutus
your brutus will active his shield as soon as the fifght start it it will last for 7s
enemy brutus have his shield last up to 8s
so if your raku can't make enemy brutus to use his shield within like 3-4s from the start then you're pretty much lost because brutus roar can make raku can't dodge and when he reach raku with his shield he can kill raku super fast ( like 1-2 hit if raku have the debuff, a bit longer if he don't but that won't give good result believe me)
i said this because i have no idea how fast your raku can kill brutus tho
give this a try: swap tasi and raku, swap talene and lucius then replace talene with brutus
Actually I cleared that stage, And it was a brutus half hp (plus invincibilty) vs raku 75 percent hp in the end, it took only 6 dodges in a row to beat him :*) Guess who i found again 10 stages later tho.
Did not work but it survive much longer than before
you will need a true dmg carry, your team overall dmg is too low imo
Raku? Shemira? Is my only damage dealer I supposed
have you tried last line up with shemira ?
Can help? Like where to place the heroes
how about this:
shemira
brutus
peggy (could use raku instead if your team can survive well without her)
lucius
tasi
Hwy, i actually cleared this stage not a long ago. From what I remember, arden and tasi are the biggest damage threats,ulmus nemora heal for days and kaz dodges a lot. I cleared this with
Raku (A+30)
lyca (E+)
pippa (E+)
brutus (E+)
ferael (E+)
Team power for me was around 550k iirc
The idea is to get ferael to fear arden, nemora and mostly tasi but the first 2 are ideal to be feared and then raku bursts them down. RNG when it comes to kaz, she is immune or dodges a lot but you can get her. You can try this if you have the above heroes
give it a shot
Didnt build any" fear"type hero 😅
ic, but I think it wouldnt be as useful for your raku coz he isnt +30 yet. The idea remains the same tho, you cant have a heal battle against them, you need to burst them down before arden ults. This was the biggest source of damage.
OK got it I will lend some heroes from my friends
yeah that works too. i dont think sjemira can deal with this stage as well as she does DoT and those guys heal a lot faster
Will Ainz do?
maybe, without 3f his normal attack isn't that powerful tho
Not sure, but if he is a well built ainz, first ult should probably wipe out almost everyone, maybe kaz and tree survive that
yeah if you borrow a maxed ainz then he will 1 shot those fuker
Def
kaz might dodge it tho or might be immune, idk havent read her skills
She just keep dodging but my shemira was able to deal with her since shemira ult is continuous and kinda cc
From the previous stages
yeah kaz hate enemy with continuous dmg, and she definitely don't afraid of ainz ult 
I'll bring both along
kaz from this stage is built different maybe and there's nemora to heal her as well, the arden/tasi were definitely bigger problems tho
i think you need to start garrison ainz and link her with shemira
My raku can't aim tasi 😭
Wait there's this function!?
dont use him yet, work on his +30 first.
Sig?
yeah
Ok
friends function -> garrison tab
i think im around that chapter when i still using shemira, after i got ainz, link her with shemira and upgrade his SI breeze through 2-3 chapter easily
SI30 recommandation? I'm trying to get a stable 3rd team
Lucretia
ok ty
I'm still sorta new to the whole team building thing so can someone pls give me some advice on which heroes out of the ones I have would be best in heros of esperia? Will be getting a daimon soon from the other event
luc for 3rd team, thoran for 4th team 
Any help?
use all your best heroes, pvp event mostly for whale
and you don't have heroes that can be built into specific team tbh
give nara call
Damn sad, I was really hoping I'd be able to get to atleast silver
Nvm I won
lucretia, raku
alright thanks. I need to figure exactly the 3rd and 4th comp will look like for now
Been stuck here for 2 weeks, pls help
Send heros
Oh that troublesome arden
his dmg is even higher than morvus 
Never knew morvus dmg was so high either 😳
you will know that when you progress furthur, morvus suck 
As in like, in a good way?
no, bad mean
he literally take out all your team with hit ult, like 1 ult = 1 kill 
but luckily he can't use his ult that frequently 
Who's the best wilder?
not really, they have their job (except for a few heroes that you won't touch for a long long long time)
Most used?
raku, eironn (pull bot in 5 pull), tasi, pippa (rarely use in thoran cheese), saurus (usually for bossing), lyca, nemora (charm comp), gorvo (i don't know where to use him but i think maybe tower), lorsan (linker in thoran cheese), respen (only for pvp)
you should ask this in #classic-questions tho
I’ve tried many times but I’m not sure what to use
OK I'll take note
ainz
brutus
rowan
grez
daimon
give it a try
Doesn’t work, ainz gets 1 ult off and then dies
daimon doesn't do anything ?
Nope not rlly should I try merc someone
how about this
ainz/daimon
brutus
rowan
grez
ferael (remove his weapon so he can use fear at least once before he die)
Still doesn’t work
well you should bring your daimon si to 20, give him 3f then comeback
Oh I just got it tysm
Any ideas for this
Why is Daimon lvl 1 ?
I just got her
But dont look at level. Is it good team comp or not?
Help im giving up this flora thoran combo is too good
remove thoran add arthur
Do you see an Arthur?
🤨
he mean your merc arthur
Ok that makes more sense
how about this
daimon
brutus
rowan
lyca
ferael (remove his weapon)
he can use his fear faster, i just know this trick recently
Ahhh okok
i don't know if that work when he have 9f or not but without 9f that definitely work
grats
@rigid imp , maybe u can help me too?
Something to change?
erm for early stage like that i would follow the guide (lvl 5 3skill fodder and put 4skill heroes in resonating crystal)
your line up is good but i'll always put daimon backline (except for some stages but that's very rare)
Ok, i was thinking too about changing Zikis for other champ to get left corner % bonus. Or should i just leave it like that?
its depend on enemy, you might want some extra cc from arden or use zikis for bonus defense for some stages
Ok thanks
very new to the game and i need help with 9-20 :( only done it a couple times before but i’ve heard it has really bad reputation
well you should post enemy team too so ppl will know what enemy you're dealing with
but for some reason you have a lvl 40 kren there 