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ferael is suprisingly good at these stage, his cc is super fast and cc up to 3 enemy at max (3s for each enemy)
I’m just trying to progress in the chapter battles—any help appreciated!
I made the dumb mistake of using him for fodder earlier on or I couldve had a mythic ferael by now 

you should look at the pinned guide in #classic-questions because your box look mess up
and it also have guide for early game progression too
Oh yikes ok thank you
Theres the vid with daimon at bottom, it lasts a smidge longer but not by much
daimon is sooo frustrating now 
so many stun that interrupt him from using his ability 
Yeahhhh, i almost have enough resources to get him to 240, dyou think that would help?
maybe, but his support should do their job too
sadly you don't have nara cuz using nara against fawkes or raine can give daimon more free space to use his ability
Aw yeah I have her but shes like, only on elite so she gets wiped out asap
I might just wait it out and use a borrowed hero after reset this week, only a couple more hours till then anyway
Thank you for all the help with this 😃
well my nara is elite too, her only job is too hook enemy back and knocking them down
Hm let me throw her in and see if it works
if she can't knock them down then thoran can help cc enemy with his revive
Where should I put her tho?
it should look like this
nara
thoran
rowan
brutus
daimon
give nara call and your best gb boots (not daimon's boots) so she can hook faster
I need help with chapter 13. I only have 39 and 40 left to beat, but can’t get past there. Also, if possible, a team to plan early for chapter 14 would be great. Thx.
its better if you post enemy team too, we will have more information about what we should do
That actually worked and I got a lot further, gonna keep trying thank you
yeah the biggest problem here is enemy isabella, you place daimon in front of her so she suck out all daimon's energy
maybe put them like this
shemira
alna
izold
lucius
daimon
alna in front of estrilda, lucius in front of grezhul
other 3 at backline
give it a few retries and tell me the problem pls
Okis
I'm kinda new to the game, and i'm really stuck right now, cant beat any bosses or anything, tried different formations, resetting characters and nothings working, would someone wanna call me and help me out
all your heroes reach lvl 100/120 ?
if it doesn't then you should afk a bit more and lvl them up
if it does then you can put enemy team here and ask for help
I also tried adding artifacts
Could someone maybe call me and help me out? or just dm me and give some advice
try giving daimon the call then swap izold and alna ?
K
you can put the enemy formation and your heroes box here to ask for formation
alna is op but not really good for early game cuz her haste reduction might ruins the whole fight, brutus work better at these stage
I’m not really far into the game, I’ve changed the formation and hero’s so many times
Progress, but i can only kill Grehzul on a good rng run
I’ve had the game for like 4 days
maybe wait for 2 more daimon copy and make him M then comeback would be much easier, his sign item provide stats steal is insane
might try this
rosaline
thoran
raine
brutus
saurus
Okis
please someone helppp
why your estrilda isn't front row
if you have eironn i would suggest this:
daimon
brutus
eironn
thoran
ferael ( remove his weapon so he use fear faster)
don't have eironn tho
o cuz I put Lyca in the front
yeah, you should get 1 copy of eironn too, he have so many use later
Is Daimon 30 or Mehira 30 more important for 36-60-3
Is there a picture of the best heroes to begin with at the start of afk ?
THe pins in #classic-questions
argh vedan annoying
Help! Allies lose 150 energy when under cc
brutus is good to have, better build him later, not for dps, but his meat shield is op https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWiYEGGBpMA
Like and Subscribe for awesome quick content at busy times, letting YOU know how to make the best of the OG king, Brutus. He's had quite a journey in AFK since his old carry days, but since I've seen many people disregard him, this video earns a PSA status. Fun fact his 9 furn was mistranslated, it gives 2 secs of immunity for every enemy death....
Help
Help please
Tasi CC’s daimon then everything dies diamon dies 5v1 help pls
oden
thoran
silas
brutus
daimon
daimon
thoran
fereal
lyca
nara
Gonna try it thanks
rowan
daimon
fereal
brutus
oden
how many times did you retry?
15 retrys but diamon only got to ultimate once 😦
give it more goes, daimon rng and tasi rng are crazy
I Will retry
Tasi literally only targets daimon 😦
It worked thanks i just switched daimon and lyca
np
someone else did it with the exact same thing, give daimon call and no one else
Yea he is only one with it
uh retry I guess
probably gonna regret using short-term unit way too early, because there're many many tasi waiting ahead
level gaps isn't that huge, just disable tasi with nara or even lyca to haste up will do the job
Don’t have nara and Lyca is only level 1, but it unlocks elemental shards, gives me 20 summons and 9k diamonds
So worth using one short term to get
Not working
Need some help another time please 😅😅
My box
Help pls I’m rly stuck 😭
180 daimon shouldn’t be hard on this level, your main problem more on wasting those fodder to make legend instead of legend+ from fodder, so your crystal level won’t stuck at 140
Bad investment gonna slow down your progression by a lot
Recommend to read beginner guide in pinned message in #classic-questions channel
If I were you, I’ll probably just restart the whole game by going to new server, you have gone way too far of bad investment
Recommend to read beginner guide in pinned message in #classic-questions channel
So then I can’t get the stuff from the events right 😭
I might restart but idk what to do different
Try to ask question channel for your bad investment, is there’re any good advices
Ok
Yes i know when i started my account i was reaching all my élite + to legend but now it s done and i can t change it. But it s okay because now i know than i can t make this mistake again
Basically abuse Brutus and Nara to make time for daimon to ultimate, dura’s call on daimon should be good
That’s the only way you can do when level gaps is kinda high, because you stuck at legend for now
Hook that fire girl and you’re good to go
Okay i Will do my best thank you very much 😃
With nara ?
Yup
Or even Lyca to speed up
Daimon is very powerful, given him has time to build up from ultimate
Thanks 😊
Why does my thoran cheese never work? Here's my line up and a friend's
All the end game comp and minimum requirement for it to work, you can refer to thoran cheese and double check what’re you lacking of
Bless you for this, I couldn't find any like it online
So yeah as others said I need to get Pippa to+20 and thoran 3f, again thanks for the pic
Prince raku comp is really strong too
This one has been a killer for me the 2 front guys mostly just team wipe everything
thoran doesn't need 3f, I beat that without it, but you need pippa +20 for sure, as well as 5* call for later
i have all base artifacts at 5* so im good with that, and i just managed to egt thoran to 3f off of a random pull and getting a red card from it so its fine either way, i need like 30 or so purple emblems then i might have enough gold ones to get him to +20
that's good enough...
should i replace hogan with wu kong?
in what context
im currently using shemira,solise,nemora,suares and hogan but i cant get hogan over legendary+ and he is not a end game character so i want to replace him and idk what to replace him with
we kong is hard to get copies of and isn't used in campaign
focus on getting daimon copies
Anyone here?
no
I need help on 29-46
Can someone till me why can’t I win against this cancerous stage?
Everyone there is doing the same comp, I even copied the artifacts from someone in my cluster who won against this stage
I have tried for +50 times; I give up
If you’re trying with everything exactly the same, it’s rng
So you’re gonna have to try until you get it
Well, just retry for now. I had some problems with that stage to.
Its high rng, so expect to retry a lot. It could take hours, seconds, days and even weeks.
@drowsy sky did you try to go at normal speed with manual ults so that tasi sleep and pippa sleep are semi-perma?
Hi what should I use diamonds on?
https://i.imgur.com/VeHYs6O.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/wTf6BWp.jpeg
could i get some help on this battle please 32-33
Someone wanna head in a call and help me out haha
@hushed venture luc, lyca, rowan, eirron, eluard?
Super stuck on chapter 10-19, no clue what to do anymore
ok that was easy lol thanks a lot @warm swan
Having a 309 luc is so good
i just got the last furn and si a couple days ago its been so good
and lvl60 engrave is nice too
any suggestions for teams? lol
@quasi horizon you got daimon, so yeah, him + supporting heroes. Brutus will be your meat shield. Focus on building some l+ fodders first. An l+ arden is amazing early game.
@warm swan I seem to die to quickly for any supports to do anything, Nemora, talene, Arden, etc die even in back line before they can use there alts and daimon and brutus die soon after with no hp regen
I still haven’t pulled a Rowan which is killing me i think
i put diamon in the back so he doesnt die fast and can ult
I have put him in the back with brutus and talene in the front and same outcome with dying to quickly, I even went as far as having a Lucius and brutus in frontline and still didn’t work
This is what i’m stuck on atm
@quasi horizon switch brutus to pos 2 and daimon to pos 5 to avoid estrilda's initial charge? I don't know what shem will achieve there but she's L so put her anyway in pos 3. As for the rest of the slots, ugh
Shemira isn’t always on me team, just leveled her because i’m desperate so i’ve been all over the place
Both of you really got to stop making L heroes man, unless they're fodders @sudden tiger @quasi horizon
My legs have mainly come from multiple pulls
I got gwyneth for being a new player i didn’t invest into her and shemira was also from first 7 day new player login
I know, but you didn't have to ascend them
Brutus is leg+ after one more pull from him that’s why i invested him
Ye ik, just started this game few days ago
learning as i go
You read the pins in #classic-questions ? Set your wishlist as indicated?
Did anyone reply to this? I'm guessing I just need to level since thoran gets almost one shot even when in ult form
What do you WANNA hear? Don't make anymore L's
chill down...who hasn't made this mistake...
A healer would be great?
I'm not mad I'm just asking what he specifically needs answers for lmao?
fereal...not thoran...
lol sure, that's fine
@midnight bronze is daimon the one that gets banished? Thoran will prolly have a hard time there getting an ult with ezizh, same goes for your other heroes
^this. Probably putting daimon in front of ezizh to have stichy target him would be good, and some additional cc would be nice
Wdym?
get a stronger fereal
go build him up then....
Didn’t try that out tbh 
yeah manual that
where are u in the game
how's this for the championship guys?
Daimon
Bet
Rosa out for ezio in ainz
Oden out for ath in GB, unless no ath
Make a luc cycle team with luc twins skreg/eluard/tasi rowan ezizh
Last team can be stall or burst or whatever you have left
what truth said
how's this for the championship guys?
@fiery void whats ur server? my lc only have 3 teams
Some regions have 6 teams 👀
6 teams? hmm is it based on server? that must be fun can ainz comp still beat all of those 6 teams by themselves?
Sometimes, mostly it is 5 meta comps as well as a scuffed filler comp.
Also yes, regions start getting more teams when they get older
I hope i could get out of groups before that happens its been 2 months since ive been on lc and groups is a battle of better ainz comp wins
Yeah LC is still mainly centered around the best Ainz comp, but the other comps are important too
Can i get some help with an early lineup, been told wukong is garbage and i should use lyca and oden
Will Thoran work for this Flora stage?
thoran should work here
lorsan doesn't need call, eye is enough, and he sould be in position 3 as well
<110 deficit...don't know how well thoran will work here....give it a go anyway, there is a flora after all
thoran works with as low as 60 deficit from my own experiance. I have heard it works lower than that as well
How should I beat this?
@mortal mural ainz?
Wdym?
I mean the typical ainz team. Arthur Albedo Ainz and fillers
I’ve tried, doesn’t seem to be working
What specific ainz team would you recommend?
Arthur Rowan Fera Ainz Bedo. Rowan with chalice
maybe
ainz
arthur
rowan
ferael
albedo
but my point is if your at that low of a deficit you should just use something else
That worked thanks.
@split sundial there's a beginners guide on the pins in #classic-questions
should is a strong word, i would prefer could here
thoran cheese usually takes more retries than other teams...
np
not necessarily, ive gotten cheese to work all the time until I quit within 100 retries
It took 2 retries maybe I got lucky
that team is known to work well, other thoran retries could take longer
generally speaking, 5* call 3man team is way more consistant than pippa variation
Anyone here good with PvP forms? I swapped Joker for Merlin at 000 for my Ainz comp
help thanks
Need help please this one is really difficult for me
@unreal plover hello fellow joker enjoyer, these are the comps i used for 31-40
Do you have 5 pull?
Yeah I have Skirath and Eironn. I don’t have albedo or Arthur though.
How much investment is on your Ainz, you can replace arthur and albedo with stally heroes or tanks if Ainz has his 9f at least
You don't have his 9f, but you ARE at a lower lvl deficit than I was when I completed that stage, so you might be able to make it work with just his ult. If it doesn't, you'll have to come up with another idea for the second stage
You could probably move your Daimon down to the 2nd formation (if you have him) and use him as a carry there instead of Ainz. Your Eironn and Joker are enough to carry the 1st comp.
If anything I would also like to see your hero bank
Your Skirath needs 3f in order for 5 pull to work, you should build that ASAP.
From the looks of it you have the heroes for a Gwyneth Burst comp, which you might be able to make work for the 2nd team, but I don't have any experience in that field so I won't be able to help you. I can forward you an old comp guide on Reddit by Arty which can help you
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/le0b0p/visual_guide_to_end_game_pve_formations_by_arty/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Sorry for the vague advice, it's been a while since I did this stage. Hope this helps though
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where have your diamonds been going
That guide looks helpful thanks!
Wdym?
like what have you been doing with your diamond income
I use it to buy the 360 rare diamond heroes refresh the store 3 times, if I have a huge surplus I’ll do a stargaze or a 10 summon. I usually am quite lenient with them and don’t use them a lot.
wrong game?
do you refresh the store for poe each day btw?
Yes I also do that too when I go in there which if I have a lot of diamonds I usually do
That is not AFK Arena
have you got cards leftover?
For stargaze?
no, furniture cards, red ones
(just wanted to add, there are multiple pages to this guide, just in case you don't notice.)
I did thanks
do your furn pulls, if you dont have skirath to 3f use the red cards on him, should give you a 2nd team
then you can do daimon comp and 5pull with eironn carry and queen, tho eironn want 3f too
id invest your next 30 into raku if you have 4copies of him also, with a mehira e and rowan30 you can make another team
I have 2 elite + Raku’s and no Mehira. Also I didn’t get Skirath’s furn ability.
you should gaze a single mehira copy
how much furn has your skriath got and how many cards you got now
I have 3 legendary cards also
no red cards? if not just use the next one on skriath if you dont pull the furn beforehand, it shouldnt take long considering how much poe you had
No I got two and used them both on him
@earnest thicket Is this guide assuming all heroes are ascended?
Some heroes require a threshold of investment, but not all of them
For example, you might only need Lyca for haste or Ezizh for passive energy gain which they only need to be E for
https://forum-global-share.lilithgame.com/afk/post/355060/?lang=en-US
this is a more updated comp guide, albeit with less comps made by phoenix and aimb
She deals so much dmg to me with that ult... any idea on how I can beat her with my linup? Or i need to beef up first?
@earnest thicket @worldly apex thanks for the guides guys I’ll try to see if there’s anything I can work with
Alright, good luck man and have fun using Joker
try lyca instead of ferael and swap thoran and brutus
you might have to make your daimon 240 here
Try subbing out Peggy or Saurus with Wu Kong or Fawkes, Wukong is pretty good DPS carry for early game and Fawkes can trap an enemy in his coffin temporarily which is a pretty good CC ability. At the very least, start lvling up Wukong or Mirael
Oh I passed it. Used daimon zikis thoran peggy and lucius
Oh lol good job
But thank you! Will level up wukong.
Zikis is amazing, he killed the boss when he was up and daimon had shield which was the winning condition.
Nice, I'm actually interested in how far Zikis can go during early game, so it's great seeing you use him
Yeah I love this guy.
ty worked
Anyone have some tips for this level I used most of my kill squad round one and I’m saving mercs for last boss
might try this
grez
arthur
brutus
eironn
tidus or ferael
Enemy aoe kill them too fast
grez can't make any push even when he stand behind arthur ?
Eironn pulls him and warek claps him
then maybe put grez behind eironn then, i assume your eironn have maxed t2 boost for extra survivability
Eironn and safiya are the main issues
Naw I haven’t gotten like any mythical for him
ok then we need another strat then 
maybe try this
tidus
arthur
flora
brutus
ferael
I’ve tried that one and it hasn’t worked yet
oh
how fast does your ferael fear ?
if he can't fear like 5-6 times through entire battle then you might remove his weapon, that make him fear faster
I’ll look
the more he fear the better the result
7seconds
seem like safiya is a big problem
Yeah her aoe kills basically everything
Replaced titus with saurus and almost won I’ll try this a few times
Let’s go thanks for your help
would anyone like to help me build a decent lineup?
No alna and lucretia
I got rowan and Nara as the friend support (old screen shot
been stuck here for a week, dunno which merc i should use, as i don't have luc, alna9f, grez9f. also having trouble finding other variations that work.
How did u pass 36-60?
Help
ferael
thoran
brutus
daimon
get a nara
Alr spent my friend help thing
then try this
lyca
thoran
brutus
daimon
ferael (remove his weapon)
give ferael eye, daimon call and hope for the best result
you only have chance to win only when ferael use his fear on tasi before she banish your daimon
After 30 try’s, rng blessed me
Blame athalia normally I would take this on with oden so I can reset saf over and over again but ain’t working this time
Ferael instead of odin and retry a few times til he wont die
Instead of brutus sorry#
iirc i used this
brutus
daimon
eironn
thoran
ferael
@rigid imp artifacts?
call on daimon, eye on ferael other doesn't matter
Alr
might try remove ferael weapon so he use fear faster (i didn't know about this back then)
Also daimon dies in 123
then maybe another formation, if daimon can use his shield at start then this formation have win chance, if he can't then no chance at all
you can try this too
merlin
brutus
oden
thoran
daimon
Thanks it worked
luc merc
I’ll reset any hero and do pretty much anything, I’m just really stuck fighting any fights no matter the rotations
Could anyone help please
my thoran cheese is not working at all, he doesnt even get to ult. can some1 help? 36-56
What’s exactly the issue here
I mean there’s a couple issues overall with the comps but also with order and investment. Namely the Ainz and putting Mehira across Nara.
Help please
any help to pass
I would use wo kong insted of satranda and upgrade him
Can u show the rest of ur box
(Front) Brutus and lucious (back) shemira Rowan lyca maybe
Maybe Brutus to help you shemira survive so she can super/ult
Also shemira falls off ch 22 ish
Yea
That’s why I use daimon :3
trying to get daimon good rn
wait can i show my artifacts and who i should put each on
Sure
Basically call and eye r ur only useful ones so put call on Shem
eye on who
Shemira
Lyca
Shouldn’t Shem have call so she can ult fast?
Wait I read wrong
Yea I read wrong
grace on ?
Thoran I think because Lucius when he ult he already gets a shield so it’s kinda pointless to put it on him
Maybe duras drape
like this ?
Is your Lucius dying quick and if so put Brutus in front of shemira
mm
Sounds stupid yes I am in ch 26 and I have an alt account didn’t think that it mireal would struggle with maulers but guess not
i didnt win but almost did idk what to do now should i switch front
Just retry because your facing a ferael
what does ferael do
Steal energy
I’m stuck on this stage
Move Merlin to the far left in the back and swap out Shem for Rowan
If you have a Lyca swap it out for Brutus or grez
Also don’t use nemora like that use Shem she’s useless at ur stage
Ok but will just ain’t be enough
Ainz is really op
Ok I will try
its not worknig
read beginner guides in #classic-questions pins
what do I do becuz athalia like instantly wipes out my back row
Why would I this is lineup help I’m asking for help with my lineup
well because those guides tell you what heroes to build early
@elfin cloak try throwing daimon where brutus is, and line brutus up across athalia
ok
Yes but I’m asking for help with my lineup
Am asking what is the best team from my characters not who I should get lol
also don't u have resonating crystal
I think increasing your hero level is the best alternative I can see right now
And how did you beat the annoying ferael stages
which ones
ye that's what I think also
All the ones before that stage I’m at 22,26 right now and I can’t past it
o well I used nara or eironn to pull and then just hoped that ferael's fear thing hit the non essential to damage ones
and Lyca for haste cuz haste is pretty cool
Ok this is my setup right now
Any line ups to beat this?
o hmm idrk what I did for that bcuz I pushed really fast from 22-14 until 22-32 lol
I have been stuck for weeks because my Ainz dies to quick
do u have nara to pull either Isabella or arden
o rip
I do But she dies by them and they get their energy
well as long as u stun them for a bit idk
I probably gotta afk it for a bit:/
Do you have oden becuse maybe you can get him to portal one of them to the front and then kill them with a area attacker like wu Kong
wats ur afk arena name lol
Bompie
can i friend u lol
Okay let me just I friend some dudes
ok lol
you cant pull her with your nara, only way is to get ainz to ult and 1 tap her
nara on top backrow
Maybe chicken and you would a 5-pull
form 1,2 are my current teams and 7 was a team i used in balloon
wut?
How many copies of Skriath you have?
If you get hes furniture you have a 5-pull with Eiron, safia
Skriaths 3/9 furniture with safia and eiron
thats gonna take a while
Yea
This game is patience after all so you'll get it 
don't need patience if you whale
who can help me make a team please
What two teams should I use ainz is linked to daimon and Arthur to rowan with my key.
Got swap scroll still?
Lucius and shemira are super good early game. Try to get Brutus on the Crystal as he is a good tech pick. Otherwise try to get daimon up in ascension levels as he is one of the best carries and just use whatever you have
Unfortunately no I used it to turn 4* shemira into the daimon
Well your two teams can be ainz and daimon carry
I need another key for that
Thx
Just relink ainz, stars aren't that important.
Honestly gwyn or belinda might be a bit better than ainz with that complete lack of investment
I literally garissoned him for the first time this morning
It would be rly good to read pins here
So yeah, your second team will have to be pretty improvisational for now, can use anything from eironn to gwyn to charm depending on what works for that stage.
Level up your heroes adjust gear and change formation 
I can’t even kill 1 of them
Front: Bedo Lyca back: ainz Rowan bedo just try lol
you said bedo twice
Please help me
reset all heros except wukong, level everone up to 20 then as much as you can into wukong
hes a very stong carry by himself early game
daimon
merlin/thoran
eiornn
alna
lyca
Any advice for this stage? Can beat 2/3
No chance to beat that. Any advice beside looking for an alternative to Antandra? She literally does nothing here
Borrow a 9/9 Antandra or just put a healer
Will a 9/9 Antandra make such a difference or do you think a pumped Kren would work too?
Yeah.. Granit is not there long as well anymore, that’s why I’d really like to beat 160 before he disappears (last 160 to do)
anything's better than a 200 antandra
Your opinion what’s the better rental hero for that fight?
obviously your options are slim seeing what you've merced already, but I imagine the low clear for that floor uses either a 309 antandra or a 200 (or higher) kren (or even both, but one should suffice)
Alright, I’ll try to find one before the daily reset…
Baden shadow one shots my Luc everytime. Is there any trick to that? I've seen plenty replays that avoid that, but don't see why
howd you beat 48
They spawn random, maybe it's not baden ghost. I've used raku on this stage
tey swapping safiya chicken, my guess its that thoran kill chicken, and shem have time to hit luc
Uhh forgot I did I just finished dinner and I did it b4 dinner
And artifacts
am i over my head here: 19-38, im using alna brutus ferael rowan daimon
Meh, you made too many l heroes I see. Read some guide pinned on #classic-questions, as about your stage, it would help more to post a ss with the stage. U can use rowan Brutus front,daimon lyca tasi Backline, or so
skreg shemira were mistake i made before coming here and read the pins 🙂 the rest just opened 6 copies and dint use fodder to rank, i invested in daimon/rowan mostly, and i tried your team it worked tks
someone call me?
Any help?
rosaline
brutus
mereal
saurus
arden
Omg last stage of the chapter finally oml and also getting rekt by athalia is super fun
Mk I'll try that thanks
just put thoran where athalia is and let daimon go ham
Blame fera
banish him....
And Arden
Rosa on mireal right?
Yeah
nara him...
It's better to charm
daimon with lyca can get his shield up before arden roots so it doesnt affect anyone
Tasi also uhh may it may not be interrupted
Comp didn't work Saveas instantly killed Brutus and then Rosa and Saurus
put brutus on crystal
I did
how tf did he insta die then? he has immunity doesn't he?
Yes but when it went away after like 5 seconds he instant died
he's only there for the 5 secs, to buy time. The reason your struggling is because you're building non-meta heroes
then don't let her be....also I hope your stargazing for lucretia
I thought that what I'm supposed to do 🤷
your supposed to build meta heroes
Who's meta
Try Brutus ezizh, rowan mirael Rosa
@dull flame
I’m stargazing for Alna for alna grez comp cause almost have grez built
grez needs 9/9, as well as other things. You should be focusing on meta carries like ainz and lucretia instead
read the pins in #classic-questions
Honestly, luc it's good for hypo tower, for campaign u can Merc if need
I have and it tells you to build your fodders till 160 then start working on getting mythical for the meta heroes
I think alna it's stronger for campaign, but then hypo is weak on faction tower 
yes, but it's best to get meta heroes earlier
Mega heroes are lucretia ainz and such
luc is a carry, alna is an enabler, it depends on who you want.
There's impossible stages without alna, but not without luc
Thank you that comp worked
luc can work with just about anything, alna needs other heroes to be built too, it's why pushers always go luc first, then alna
Btw uhh did u watch the video I sent to see what happens @dull flame
The team sux
@pale kettle
don't get me wrong, I have and use both, but if you look at light spenders early game, its luc first
Try Brutus lyca, daimon rowan nemora to charm ferael try this, until you charm ferael
Uhhh… oops
merlin out for rowan, tasi out for fereal
Yeah, but i can pass every stage without luc, but can't without alna lots
Went about the same
👍
Demora dies in the first second of battle so uhh
And if nemora dies cuz lyca get s too late on the battle field, try something else instead of lyca
U can put rowan front there and daimon middle
And nem will survive for sure
Uhh nah
It’s fera’s spirits that kill her
You have tried Brutus rowan, lyca daimon nemora?
Yep
She bscly have to charm before of Fera ghost, so add more mspd on nemora, better shoes and maybe dura's call
What is mspd
Better shoes should help enough, mspd it's haste now, they renamed it
I just stole odens gear should help lol
Should be, just it's rng, u charm Fera or the wilder dude, so try until Fera charmed, restart if not charmed
point is for early game luc is better because her teams needs 0 investments, late and endgame, alna is for sure
So basically ur asking me to run 4x deficit okay…
What’s the move, I’ll do anything and reset anyone, just super stuck rn
Well, i do like both, from my point of view luc it's needed more for The faction tower also
lmao I'm going at 320k vs 380m power difference, yours is nothing
both are very nice to have for sure
… I’m still early game
Yeah, but, rng it's a bitch, my alts have way better celehypo than my main, bcs of this bitch rng
So you can be lucky on this life, or not
Can someone like, help me out tho
@sudden tiger you a little bit stuck bcs of the daimon l, you need l+ to lvl up
there will be a daimon free copy in a few days from this event
Do you have berries left? From the event
Yeah but barely
Basically you did bad investment and wasted all fodders
I agree thoroughly
restarting would be a solid choice
Read pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions , exchange fodder with your berries
Restarting?
Nah, not worth to restart for 2 legendary
His box is a good start, just bad investment
Daimon is great aswell as grez and rowan
If any of you want to dm me, I’ll be happy to share my screen
He means to start on a diff server, but not necessary
Also Brutus is super useful early early game
I wish someone could like call me and coach me a bit 😅 tell me who to reset and whatnot
Take a ss with your stage, would be helpful
What’s that mean ?
It isn’t about reset, more on you have no 5 L+ and wasted fodders
A screenshot
make rosa follow daimon
Should I get grez in there?
Ogi kinda sucks I figured he’d be alright cause I kept dying to him
But swap daimon Rosa
need help here thanks they just dont die
Would help to use khazard for some def more
Try lyca instead of eironn
Wdym by building them tho?
But a lot of healers, lol
nice first try
And, honestly, I would make lyca 240, instead of gwyn, she would get banish or coffined, and not daimon
aight gonna reset
Just use Brutus if no power cap, instead of thoran, for phy debuff @fiery wing
Need help
@ember belfry instead of thoran, use skreg with call, he should cc Thane on start, and lyca instead of merlin if no power cap 
like ascending them, getting their si, furn etc
Thanks it got i me through it
👍
how about here?
Mhm, try rowan Brutus, daimon lyca ferael @fiery wing
not working the nara skreg soo annoying
What's your artifacts?
@brave oriole finally got it
I’m stuck as hell
K I need some help with a good formation here
Check the pinned beginners guide in #classic-questions. Think it'll help you build a better box and not get stuck. For now it'll mostly be Belinda and 4 supports until you fix up your box. You don't want to keep going with her since she falls off.
@signal canopy so if I want to beat this stage I should follow the beginner guide right?
It'll help you because if you don't follow the guide you'll probably get stuck soon until you build the right heroes. I only gave you a team to work with until you get your box fixed up
But i have mireal blue rarity only the same goes for hogan aswell @signal canopy
You'll have them built up soon they're easy to get.
Game gives you on average about 1k diamonds per day between login bonuses and events. Also get blue stones, hearts, and free summon scrolls
@signal canopy how about athalia tho is she good in my current condition
Belinda is already so much stronger than anyone else just by being 20 levels higher you won't really need another damage hero most battles. You can still level your way past some of the stages you're stuck on until 140
@signal canopy one thing where can I redeem codes?
Sorry think that command only works in #classic-questions
I posted it and tagged you
@signal canopy and by the way is there like a channel for latest codes?
I think googling something like afk all active codes the first or second site has them and is updated regularly
Guys please help me create a squad. I play the first day I don't understand the characters. I also have no idea who to buy in the store (maze).
store priorities are laid out in the pinned infographic in #classic-questions , along with an introduction to teambuilding
merc a +30 saurus and use these heroes: saurus,eironn,rowan,twins, may put mirael or saveas for extra dmg
lineup can be like this
twins
rowan
mirael/saveas
saurus
eironn
brutus - barricade
daimon & rowan- call
lyca - the hp dodge one
fereal - eye no weap
I run chalice on rowan personally
You can put fereal across of Skreg
Or if you have Lorsan put him in the bottom then nuke Nimsu for the stun
Could anyone please help been stuck on it for a few days
what 3 pvp teams do you suggest?
https://www.imgonline.com.ua/result_img/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-rWsdpEEpt9KaFek.jpg
Any line up ideas
use this dude
my rowan have 5* t2 faction boots + 5* t1 weapon (different faction) and 25 more dodge from furn so he can survive for a long time, if you don't have furn then change weapon to his fation will give a higher dodge (about 30-40 point)
and remember to remove ferael weapon 
@stone coyote try
Daimon rowan
Ferael nara lyca
If you have brutus juat put it onto crystal it shud be help your progress
what about the stage with the eirron in frontrow? @rigid imp
i put most of the stage that i feel hard on afk helper, you can find it there too 
ferael need enough dodge so he can survive eironn suction and fear for like 1-2 time iirc
but i think you know my ferael gear already
urgh now 29-50 is a problem, i'll be back to this stage later 
aight thanks imma hold push atm
got this formation from afk nax, but it isn't working
any thoughts? do I need to merc a belinda?
honestly I don't see a way for this team to work, you're missing carry in there.
on afk nax, eluard/rosa were the carries
I was skeptical too
hi 7 days player here, i got 4th copy of gwyneth and morrow, should i ascent either one of them? right now at chapter 10, my dps only mirael
I still don't see L+ eluard as a carry. try your M+ whatshisname instead? dunno how thorans DMG transfer skill works if there are 2 of them, maybe throw in another lower tier hero to soak that so your carry won't be affected by it
I'd ask in #classic-questions and show your box (screen with heroes)
okay
Can someone help (no I don’t use twins in campaign I just randomly put it on)
Daimon and silvina do damage, enemy silvina wrecks mage no matter what, and bat boy makes me sad
my first instinct was to use morrow, like on the prev floors, but it wasn't working
I tried using belinda to bait thoran's taint, and she does do that, but then I can't win a 5v4
have you tried nara vs vedan?
I’ll try
Nara gets killed in a matter of seconds
upgraded morrow's factionless 5* hat (early game mistake) to LB 4* hat, and somehow that did the trick 
morrow/rosa front line, rowan/lucius/hendrick in back
faction does give like 25% bonus stats or so, a lot of the time makes a difference. cg on passing the stage
faction bonus rarely makes a difference
Nvm I beat the stage
its a nice bonus but team synergy is much more important
usually, but somehow it was all that mattered here?
team synergy is a joke in the faction towers - stuck with whatever crap LB I have lol
Help
Anything i could change to make my comp better? All leveled heroes are in my line up atm.
Can anyone help me with this fight? Last one of Chapter 29
U tried Brutus/pop and Arthur Front
Rowan, merlin and ainz back ?
Hey, can someone help me to create the 3 best possible teams please
Yeah they just die after ainz uses his ult
wanted to beat 32 before MV ends, can beat r1 but not r2
or rather, i can beat both but both needed izold for the clear and i dont have 2 izolds 
U tried raku, Mehira, Brutus, Rosa and rowan ?
Brutus and rowan Front
Mehira, rosa and raku maybe
thats not going to get anywhere
Whats the first team look like?
With your finished lineup
i did do it without rowan and some mix arounds
Has grez 9f ?
Im using a merc grez at 34-28
Try it instead of Brutus
Try the 2nd lineup
ah i got close with shroud on raku, i'll keep trying. i tried that team earlier but not with shroud
got it ty for the help ^^
raku does better with bow tbh
i dont think i can get bow rn
oh, well in that case use shroud...but don't let raku ult till enemies are down to 5% hp
Hey!
Is there any Granit's Arena of trials lineup guide? As a new player I still have no idea about the synergies and combos between heroes.
Does raku do better with bow than eye?
@cerulean nimbus try this
Oden
Daimon
Rowan
Lucius
Tasi
No luck. if only my stitchy was 121. Then he could get the good heals
but
Tasi——Lucius
Rowan
Fereal ——Daimon
Worked
Help pls
get 20 more lvl on wukong and you're good to go (for a while)
its capped cause the others arent 60 yet
i know it feel long lvl up those heroes but be patient, everything will come eventually (or it won't
)
well what do I do i nthe meantime?
you can reach some newbie guide to avoid some early game mistake
here are some guide from Bok
Change your tavern wishlist, read guides, get free stuff by using redemption codes from https://afk.guide/redemption-codes.
First open Phoenix's Beginner Guide which covers most basic aspects of the game and change your tavern wishlist - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/877569022445621248/image0.png
Then open Bok's guide which gives you a step-by-step process of what to do till 5 heroes reach Lv.160 each, reset heroes if you already messed up - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcT34gPd9WS8Ivb9kZGmAP6qnoIzFFUUmyNETq1J_kg
Lastly, open Tree3's Beginner Compendium. It's very long, so if you can't handle info overload, use Ctrl-F here when you want more info on something and can't find it in Phoenix/Bok's guides - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZLSDhbeAwX8_RU9nJL8RG3oWA0D10QEjuSWpMxx8zg
Just want to check if there's anything I can do for Chapter22 or I'm just underleveled with Daimon A pushing through the previous stages fast.
put your thoran in rc and try this
daimon
thoran
ferael (remove his weapon if he can't use fear after his first normal attack, only if he can survive estrilda initial aoe skill)
brutus
lyca
if ferael can't use fear then put nara there
Oh! does removing weapon makes it so enemies wont attack him? I'll free up my RC and try your suggestion.
remove his weapon only speed up his normal attack 
you have brutus so use him instead of thoran
Got it. Thanks!
thoran has 100k more hp tho
hmm, if he surive more than 4-5s then its good
nothing both are bad
OMG! thanks!
wat about
daimon
thoran/brutus
eironn
grez
pippa/rowan
idk tho
besides what longhop said about leveling up, you should only level 5 heroes and then put the others on the RC so you can maximize the usage of exp and dust yk
@rigid imp rn i have
nara
lyca
thoran
brutus
ainz
can you show all heroes on the rc ?
hmm
rn my comp can almost clear it but the other brutus kills my ainz when they both like 1 hp
try this
ferael
lyca
brutus
daimon
nara
(i assume enemy fawkes use his kidnap ability on your daimon, is it?)
actually i think brutus cuz he just disappears of the face of the planet for like 10 seconds lol
when i put him in the back there
oh then its much better, try this
ferael (maybe remove his weapon so he can use fear once before enemy brutus and saveas blow him up)
lyca
brutus
thoran
daimon
Drape or chalice for izold?
why not eye tho ?
For me I just need him to live until he can start regenerating
Need help beating this stage
your comp is really hard to suggest imo 
Yea Ik but the problem I’m having is that than is killing my ainz to quick
have you tried swapping rowan and ainz ?
Yea Thane still targets Ainz with super
how can i beat
weird , thane should always trying to kill brutus first, and 7s is enough for ainz to get some preparation
U don't have 5m+?@wraith folio can't rlly see well
yeah he don't, he only have 3 (with 2 linked)
grez,gwyneth and rosa are A
ainz and merlin is linked
3 other heroes are merc
ah yeah, he can take both ainz and merlin to 240
Nah, no dust for, I guess , but ainz would be enough
My box
@wraith folio so, man, reset what ever it's linked with merlin to 200,make another m+ 200,and see if you can get ainz 240. Need to calculate
i think you need to open a few dust chest for it, give it a try
I got this amount of dust in box
@lusty ferry shemira bscly need rowan rosaline team. Try lyca shemira front, dura's grace on shem, Backline, Lucius with dura's call, rowan and rosaline
8h=4930 6h=1308 2h=5040
hmm, so that isn't enough
If I reset shemira I think it’s 30k more dust
who do i put rosaline on
U will get back on resetting the 220
team lost fast
Shemira ofc
Take a ss with your team and artifacts
Yea that +30k will that be enough
will use some to lvl to 200 the 5th mythic +, but should be enough still @wraith folio
Okay I will try I mean I’m only spending 20 diamonds so that’s not that much
@lusty ferry rowan middle, and try with Rosa back of shem, then with Rosa front of shem
Also, I would lvl Lucius not lyca, for tanking Frontline
should i switch them like in level
Yeah, but finish shem 180 first. Anyway, how's going? Tried Rosa front and back of shem? Also Lucius need some enchanted shoes for more haste
Rowan can use chalice all the time, rosaline, maybe some attack artifact eye or blade
My fav it was grace for shem, bcs of the shield, but eye can work too.
I dunno, at this lvl, my shem had already mythics from guild shop
Lucius need mythic shoes, shem shoes and weapon
O don’t have enough dust 😦
you don't have any resources chest left ?
Didt use them I calculated it and I don’t have enough
@wraith folio well, for now, make grez 220 then, merlin doesn't need tbh.
When you will get some more dust, reset grez and push ainz
You think 220 geez will do it? Or should I just save the dust for Ainz and save 20 diamond
Now take a ss with the stage again so we can set a team, too much to scroll up
Ok, shem hits who first?
Wdym
who did shem attack first, grez or brutus
First grez then she use the green beam thing on Brutus
Aha, swap grez Brutus then. And your Backline, lyca rowan ainz
This one works in 50%. Thoran kills 4 in first ult, but for some reason gets one-shot by Flora before he's able to ult for the 2nd time. Can't really put more haste on him as of now, any ideas?
How looks your team now?
@wraith folio ainz down
And if it doesn't work still, lyca front up, Lucius back, so no Brutus
@raw lynx how's thoran gear?
Just completed it and I just want to say thank you very much
Hey guys - started a couple days ago. Just wanted some help with which heroes to focus on ascending. Any advice is very much appreciated! (Currently stuck on 11-35)
Definitely daimon
Gonna try it tysm
btw it didnt work both ways
T2 weapon + boots, t1 5 stars helmet, purple maxxed chest
Easier to show perhaps
@brave oriole your the one I trust the most with my team homie so tell me what I gotta do
It doesn t work 😢
aww sad, what happens, who does the most damage on the other team
I m crying lmao
wha why
Because this level is too hard lol
just tell me what happens exactly and which one on the other team does the most damage
either just film and dm or just tell me what happens lol
have you tried this?
lyca
brutus
eironn
thoran
daimon
have you tried this stage with ferael weapon removed ?
and does eironn have enough speed to use pull ?
Most of the time, until you have ey at 5*
yes and yes
after removing feraels items he wont use his fear
this stage is pretty easy imo, if ferael can stun moruvs,arden and fawkes once at start before then start crushing your team then you have a really high win chance
no only the weapon, you might need to get him a t2 boots so he can survive to use the fear
well he can't survive long enough with that gear tho 
if eironn can pull then you don't have to give him the boots
eironn dies without t1 boots without pulling
hmm so he isn't fast enough to pull without dodging
ye
have you tried lyca instead of ferael ?
im gonna try it
lyca haste can help daimon get his shield before getting trapped by fawkes
Gonna try it
ye try that
Anything i can change? Leveled heroes are in my line-up atm
ooh that video is loud
got earrape for a moment
@rigid imp it works much better tho i think i need like 100 tries till it works ty 😄
It didn t work sorry
oh ok
worked 😄
Nice earrape lmao
wat bout
daimon
brutus
Eironn
thoran
lyca
Is it winnable or should i wait for more level ?
Hey, can someone help me to create the 3 best possible teams please
@raw lynx I've used tidus on this stage, on position 1,to get thoran ported there up
But i guess that u can try something else, like athalia maybe
@zealous iron eironn doesn't fit there. Try tasi maybe. Also, try to make it work that lyca or ferael to dodge athalia, so you can get out Brutus also
If you want to use eironn, u have to pull safiya and ezizh from daimon position, with dura's call I guess, to ult faster
how about
daimon
brutus
eironn
lyca
nara
Gonna try it
lol ye i realized the raine on the other side was being annoying lmao
What do I do here I’m so stuck
you retry
Help
Is this a good lineup for the very early game? (Ignore Granit, will put a support tank there) Anything I should change?
its pretty good but daimon is usually used on the back line so uh u might wanna see what u can do about that
Thank you! But may I ask why I should put him in the back line? Aren’t his shields pretty good for him to be a tank and a dps at the same time?
yes but without enough time to get up shields he dies pretty quickly
Oh I see, thanks for the explanation
there are some situations where he can be used on the front but you should ask some of the more experienced players for that lol
Can someone help me build a couple teams for dismal maze?
I could use some help restructuring my lineup. I am at 26-1 and Shimera is no longer cutting it. I have a swap scroll and was wondering who should I swap Shimera's ascension to serve as my new carry?
Whelp, Clyde isn't letting me upload a picture... so assume I have nearly all heros
show your roster when asking about swap scroll
try scribbling on it, filtering it, or recropping it to get past the filter
what's the signature item level on shemira and hendrick?
Shimera = 23 Hendrick = 20
Is Daimon a reliable all-round carry? even till late game?
in late game he is more commonly used in dual carry setups but generally yes
yeah, he is usually put into dual carry teams by late game tho
Good call @maiden marsh , ripped through 16 campaign stages already and still going. That was much needed. Many thanks.

Been stuck for two days, someone help a brotha out
Any suggestions for Burning Brute?
looool
Discord doesn't like my screenshots unless I alter the colors.
o o f
Any suggestions for Burning Brute?
New player, I have played a couple of gotcha hero games and a know usually early game is based on your 1st few pulls. With my current lineup what should I focus on?
Hello @mental sluice,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
Daimon and rowan all the way to the end
Cool, thank you is there some heros that I should try to pull for to fill out the lineup?
In the pins theres some good people to have on your wishlist
No lineup suggestions for Burning Brute?
copy what your floor leaderboard is doing
the lizard guy, the blue haired undead guy, the guy with the walrus mustache, the olsen twins, and the vampire guy with the popped collars >_>
I don't have most of them
need help
how you dont have them
Help
@fiery wing they never show up in tavern draws
They on your wishlist?
I can only wish for the four basic factions
well yeah
three of the characters from the best team can't be wished for
I’m saying all the LB GB W and M heros you were talking about
merc saurus, grez, mortas, cecillia, twins
mortas E & twins e+ are fine
what's the best lineup for burning brute with what I actually have?
this one
wait a sec you dont have dims?
I borrowed the lich guy but I never use him because he sucks
he looks like a ripoff of xykon from order of the stick
borrow the lizard guy and follow what i said in the line up
lich guy?
I had to google him, it's ainz
Any suggestions
Rowan, grez, daimon, fera, lyca?
How doomed is this stage. I can't get anything to even put up a fight. Just barely managed 387s Flora, and now this.... 
Where is your kren 
Working on him, have 3 e+ copies so far.
Anyone have any suggestions on my team?
Unless you're planning on stargazing asap for Lucretia, try to get another solid frontliner like Brutus / Gorvo (if you want to keep Wilder set). Saurus and Desira are great, Solice is a good off-carry support.
use merc ainz, after this stage you can pass every stage after without using merc
this stage is really hard for daimon, can't deal enough dmg, too many shield, banish from tasi, distraction from numisu, that stupid dwarf stun continuously and even extra heal from angelo 
what comp did u used?
ainz
brutus
rowan
thoran
daimon
or
ainz
rowan
ferael
thoran
daimon ?
i don't remember exactly but i know ainz have to ult at least once and have to activate his passive
Borrow one from friend should make it much easier in mauler tower, rather than spending tons of resources for little reward in tower
29-60 is actually easier than i think
only ~200 retries
compare to ~800 retries for 29-15 
Any suggestions on a lineup or merc I can do to beat this in 10 seconds? Last stage of misty valley I’m missing…
Yeah, have been mercing him on and off for a while as I collect copies myself. He's one of 4 Maulers I have left to get ascended, so it's only a matter of time. Guess Im just stuck here for now. Even with a merc Kren this feels so bad. He just runs into tidus and dies. 
You can refers to here, kren was used against high level deficits
https://afkhelper.nax.is
Make sure at least SI20 kren tho
10 seconds only Lucretia can make it

