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Use the codes to summon, go again on a different server and try get daimon.. or be patient haha
Considering restarting
No worth it, you can have a daimon for free in current event
Unless you can going for 4 copies of daimon at startup, which you probably can make it in few hundreds tries
I get shamira in 2 days
Any tips, tasi survive all time 😩
Pls help
How can I Improve on that? Or what/who to Look out for?
Only lvl 5 heroes.
Wukong 100 , 4 others at 60 = efficient
After 24h you should reach ch. 7/8
Once you have that, raise Mirael to 100
Raise other 3 to 80, that's req to raise Mirael to 120
@rigid imp took a bit but ur solution worked 😁
Reset Rosaline/Skreg
Raise Mirael / Wukong to 100
The fawkes uses coffin and takes my carry, what should I do?
Help please
@pale kettle so that formation should be fine, when I level them up according to your previous messages? 🤔
I think you just need to level your hero’s up more
i know i need like 35k HE to lvl up my daimon to 240
hmm ok is my progress "good" for playing a month now ?
ye something like 32/33 days
I guess I was just really slow then
I suggest you reset/ level as described
To lvl a hero to 100
All need to be lv60. A single Wukong100 carries you beginning - ch. 7
Yea So when I get them all 60 put wukong 100 and mireal to 120?
Now decide yourself if lv 70/ equal lvling is efficient ^^
And who should I trade wukong out once I hit chapter 7
Ok so I'll raise everyone to 80 then work on wukong to 100 and then get mireal to 120
Because this is my main and it's stuck on chapt 11
So many people said I messed up but I don't see how really
No. Just follow this from top to bottom
Don't change the order
Alright thanks
Crystal spots are flexible ofc. You don't need to/ won't only use the heroes you lvl
Oooh
You're way past the beginning. Which ch. ?
Chapt 5
2 accounts ?
On my new one Yea 2 accounts
Rowan should be the first to go from 60-80
After Wu/mirael are 100
I was told I can't do anything on my main so I should make new account
Yes. True
Who's Rowan
Try to merc merlin 9/9
@pale kettle Is that perfect?
The Oak Inn thingy where you have a hotel
try to get 9 mythics so you get the both effects
Usually 1 lvl 100 asap > 2 lvl 80
Alright I'll work on wukong since he's closer
And who do u recommend I trade wukong out then?
You are ch. 5
Better reset Mirael and lvl her to 60
Use what's left to raise Wu direction 100
Ok
yes
@pale kettle I just hit chapter 6 when I hit 7 who should Kong get traded out for
use eironn in the middle, daimon behind brutus
should work for this stage but i think it will need lots of rng
ty it worked
I’m pretty hard stuck 11-40
Anything I should change relic/hero wise?
try putting rosaline with daimon andd try daimon somewhere in the back row and maybe put like niru in the front
flora instead of talene might work
pls help I'm so stuck
What do I do I'm stuck on chapter 6
read pinned guides in questions
Can't get past this, what are my options?
Your first mistake is not having Mirael your highest level hero as your carry
this shit is annoying I was told to push wukong to 100 first then mireal
Maybe it's changed? Idk
I guess if WuKong is a viable early game carry now then it works
This game makes no sense at all
I'm not suppose to have any legendaries I'm not suppose to have them a certain level
It makes sense if you read the guides
Any ideas
Stop Pushing them to gold!
Yes i know i did that before reading guides
Ya I read the guide but then I use shermira on my Maine and have her legend but I'm told she's not good and I shouldn't be making her legendary
1: Daimon
2: Lightbearer Great-axe dude
3: Lyca
4: Mirael
5: Farael
Cause she isn't good. Only good early game not worth the resources to push her there
@pale kettle that team is for you
Should definitely update the fucking guide then because I'm being told 80 different things and none of them work
Or maybe stop being a fuckwit with a dick up your ass. I have no interest in helping you further.
switch rowan for Pippa lyca for nara and tasi for eironn maybe
Nah that's fine with me because as I said I was told to push wukong to 100 till I hit chapter 7 then get rid of him for someone and here your telling me I should level mireal up
after you get ascended daimon just use rowan to pump out his ults
carried me till chapter 25
Sounds good bum thanks
Doesn’t work guess i have to wait for the purple powder
I'm one Daimom short of pushing him higher
higher as in stars?
Didn't really work. Big sad
rip
Higher as in A+
oh ok
I think you should prolly take him off wishlist and ascend others first but it's up to you
Did he get a nerf or something? I haven't played in a few months
no he's still as good as ever
I tried linking my account on my iPad to the account on my phone but my iPad account is completely gone (my phone account was linked, but my iPad account wasn’t). Is there any way to recover it? I know my id number and server, I just want to bring it back. Thank you.
#classic-questions or the off topic/afk arena chat
Thx
Nara hook that pink hair girl
What do yall need saw someone in #classic-questions needed help
I wish I could help, but I have 0 knowledge on this account issue
Your phone is an android or ios?
iOS
You still have your ipad right?
Yes
Can't you just make a dummy fb account for linking?
Do you mind to slot in a rowan at least?
Also dura’s call on both rowan and daimon
I’m not sure it would recover my original iPad account
For who?
Like, literally on back centre….
I meant what hero do I replace...
Nvm…
Daimon
Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Nara
Same result everytime. 
Lineup looks good but probably your rowan dead with 1 single jump hit from assassin girl
Yes
Nvm, hook the assassin girl then, have Nara at rowan’s place
Rowan needs to survive longer to throw stun
Rowan
Brutus
Nara
Thoran
Daimon
pls hlep
Need help with this stage 
Look at winning comps and make similar, begin battle, if lose retry. Repeat that until thoran win 
Okay, I will do that
@pale kettle
Any advice on who I should stick with? 😅
Any help? I've read guides and it's not helping
help. Who should be the five heroes?
Help
Brutus wu-kong lyca rowan estrilda
Just Got warek to legendary but don’t know who to switch out or if it’s even worth
Don't try and get A tier heroes to legendary before you have 5 fodder heroes at L+
im in secrets of the forest in peaks of time. I've cleared everything but vines are still blocking me from getting artifact will they go away or can i start this over?
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=36&stage=56
Need a way to Thoran cheese a battle here. I don't have enough heroes built to break up my 5-pull or not use Thoran cheese, but I also don't have Pippa. I'll have to merc Alna for this stage too so I can't merc the Pippa for this, i'm wondering if anyone sees another way to Thoran cheese any of the fights on this stage, I have pretty much everything that works with Thoran (besides the pippa obviously) ready to go so a roster won't really be necessary. I have 5 star call. Already checked every single solution on AFKHelper and put in a few hundred attempts, mostly with combinations of nara, ezizh, talene, kelthur, and brutus.
@KitanaKitsune#8550 ask in #classic-questions for a better result

Help please idk what to do
Wukong and Brutus front lyca rowan and riku back Rowan would be mid back
put your oden in the RC and replace grez with him, after that switch oden to bottom slot
he should give daimon decent amount of time to attack and use ult
Still not working I have tried about 5 times
i don't think 5 time is that much tho, and your power is more than half of enemy already
have you tried this
ainz/shem
rowan
eironn
thoran
nemora
everyone dies way too quickly , ainz cant even get his first ult in like 1 out of 5 times he does, but dies right after
next hero for gb ascended? I don't mind waiting for vip to level isabella
does it go like this?
silvina target rowan, niru start going in then eironn pull 5 enemy at once
then thoran survive and stun 5 enemy then ainz start doing his thing and kill all enemy ?
but i don't think your ainz can cuz all enemy are graveborn, they have team bonus which give more def and grez passive give them 30% more dmg reduction from intelligent hero
if rng goes well yes but sometimes ainz cant get a ult in
yupp
Idk what you mean by isabella, but you should have silas and oden on wishlist....
I've already got enough copies of them to get them to ascended
ah. I think it would be better to show us your complete heroes, because synergies are common across different factions
and I've got 2 e+ Isabella so I could wait for vip to get enough for her
f2p stay at vip 10....
can't f2p people go higher?
nope, because you stop getting vip points for levels after lvl 200
and chapter vip points are way too low
stupid game
lmao, it's not too bad at vip 10
I'll put her on wishlist then
hmm no
oh
hodg first, then desira
bruh I just took hodg off for her xD
ahhahahaha hodg is op
after those 2, it's good to get kelthur higher ascension for later game
for the switch?
so put hodg in empty space, then once you have another hero ascended, slot in desira-->kelthur--->theowyn too for ABEX and stall I suppose
okie, I just got my daimon copy for him to go to ascended. then immediately pushed 16 levels. so broken
yeah, he is op
speaking of which, which person are you +30ing
I stupidly went shem then reliased to stop, now I've got daimon at +26
best to go for albedo after daimon, aim to get red chests as much as possible from events. Also daimon furniture stops at 3/9
I've got I'm 3/9 atm, so just need the mythic item and gear
show me your wishlist for furn too, I want to make sure it's alright
I've got ainz at +20
it's kind of embarrassing
it's just whoever I'm able to get to ascended/close to
or eironn which I know is good
it's not really that bad. I would take wareak off for grezhul...who are you stargazing?
luc, cause I've got the initial copies of twins mehira and mortas
that's good, replace queen with lucretia
I've also got lyca and nem close to A, should I swap them out for someone
she's gonna be so far away tho, although I suppose I need 9/9 for her
lyca and nemora.....nemora 9/9 is nice in endgame, and lyca's furn is okay for wilder tower but....not higher priority, I'll come up with a list
have you pulled any rowan furn yet?
GO to 9/9--> Ainz, grez, silas, fereal, oden, lucretia
Use tickets on ainz to get his 9/9 faster
GO to 3/9--->Albedo, eironn, skriath, brutus
The ones I listed above are your current wishlist
Here's priority for replacing them:
Tasi-9/9
Thoran-3/9
Raku-9/9
Kren-3/9
Alna-9/9(slot her in when you get luc ascended)
Izold-3/9
Hodg-9/9(Hodg and izold position can be switched around)
Desira-9/9
@zinc maple
1 or 2, do you wantto dm as not to clutter this
sure
need help on this stage
try
daimon
thoran
lyca
Brutus
oden
you could maybe replace arden with lyca frontline with daimon backline, or rowan instead
wtf 0_0 worked 2nd try, althoug I switched position of brutus and thoran
thank you!
np
Do i need to use 2 tanks from now onwards? Daimon doesnt seem to survive very well nowadays
i dont remember the last time i used 2 tanks frontline in campaign, its always been brutus lyca frontline for me :/ just expirement tbh
Alright
there are stage you put daimon frontline, but its extremely rare so most of the time you put daimon backline, behind a tank
it completey depends on the level, sometimes you need the versatility from heaps of different heros but then sometimes you just need people to tank for you carry. I myself have used 4 tanks+1 carry to push sometimes
What are the best 3 teams for challenger pvp?
Ainz, burst, cycle/alna GB
@maiden marsh what do the comps consist of? Like what is best with ainz? Ainz row talene Arthur and albedo? Etc and burst? Plus I don’t have alna 9/9 lol
Ainzbedo merlin arthur/ezio/desira
Burst varies depending on depth of roster
Cycle is ideally lucretia cycle. A mono GB team sans-alna is also an option.
@maiden marsh
Team 1: Arthur albedo ainz merlin ezio/mortas
Team 2: lucretia twins ezizh rowan skreg
Team 3: eironn saurus gwyn lyca lorsan
@maiden marsh thank you so much
Skreg cycle isn't just a meme team?
Lul no
253 votes and 121 comments so far on Reddit
You kinda need his 9/9 to work in cycle tho
Also Luc 9
Also some E33 haste on Twins to make the comp relevant in pvp
"Budget PvP" 
It is budget for pvp indeed 
I really want some idea for this stage, here are some problem i have:
- Nara can't work because she got 1 shot by the hypo mage
- Tried replace thoran with lyca but still can't work, nara can't knock tasi down fast enough (with call already)
- If i use nara to pull the hypo mage then daimon got banish and die when wake up
- My ainz can't survive until ult, even if he ult he deal no dmg at all so no need to suggest him (i'll work on albedo and arthur later)
Your rowan can't live on the frontline yet?
he sit there for like 2-3 sec then die, can't even ult
i think i need more dodge for him but i'm broke right now, can't get more stone
he always have call
some afk helper formation that i found with similar heroes have higher rc than mine 
maybe i'll be back to this stage when i get my rowan boots and weapon to t2 so he can survive longer
Keep trying as well. Remember even if you have the perfect comp for a stage it's still rng for you to win
Pla help
hi, any tips on who should I continue to build?
need help
Hey! New player here. Could you suggest me some good lineup with this pool to clear campaign?
TIA
Hello @silent dragon,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
Brutus thoran
Daimon rowan lucre or if you have lorsan just thoran 2nd team used ainz convo
You need carry hero to focus on ... like daimon or satrana dpnt make any legendary if you dont have atleast 6-7 copies of ascended heroes
Is this for me? :D
Why dont make any legendary?
Only lvl 5 heroes.
Wukong 100 , 4 others at 60 = efficient
After 24h you should reach ch. 7/8 reset Satrana, lvl Shem for now
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/lshawh/tree3s_afk_arena_beginners_compendium/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Check the "progression" section. The guide covers most questions you might have
How to beat it
can you also send a screenshot of your hero page
Here ^
- Raise Daimon to M+
- Do you have an Eironn?
yea I do have an E+
is it safe to ascend daimon to M+? coz I still need 2 more rng copies for ascended. I have 1 plus I'll get one more from the lyrical exploration chest
Ok, put him onto resonating crystal.
Try a team comp with thoran, brutus frontline, then daimon, eironn and someone else (lyca, fereal, oden) on the backline
make sure the brutus is in front of daimon, and eironn should be in the middle
yes it is
because you should be using all your faction cards/scroll on graveborn. so youll get copies of him soon enough
alright, I'll put eironn in the crystal and try again later. Is there anyone in my rc I could replace eironn with? otherwise I'll have to wait for 200 more coins
raku
Need help
Try a team comp with thoran, brutus frontline, then daimon, eironn and someone else (lyca, fereal, oden) on the backline
make sure the brutus is in front of daimon, and eironn should be in the middle
put eironn on crystal for lucius, also reset your warek (only level up 5 heros at a time)
Any ideas?
brutus fight kaz, use estrilda to fight ogi instead of nemora
can't even knock back ogi ? cuz the only reason i put here there to knock back ogi and provide shem more time to leech
Nope
if so maybe swap daimon and shem then
Help pls
brutus at bottom slot frontline, daimon bottom slot back line, thoran at top slot frontline
this should work
Any way I can win this?
uh well shouldn't daimon be in back idk
if you have eironn and brutus in your rc this stage is super easy
Nah everything dies instantly if I do t have him in front
I have maybe 1 copy of eironn an Brutus
yeah they work even at E
Both level 1 tho
it should look like this
ferael
any heroes (prefer thoran for his revive stun)
eironn
brutus
daimon
you should put them in your rc, they are super useful with daimon
maybe lyca for any heroes cuz the haste thing and energy
I tried Lyca but, I can’t even get daimon to ultimate before it’s all dead
did u use brutus
o nice
yeah you will find that combo work a lot from now on, for stage with no backline rampager like this stage
this doesn't work well for estrilda stage so you might have a huge problem with those stage 
mhm
Estrilda is okay
I haven’t had a big issue on those just put diamon on opposite side, brutas was naked so was erionn lol
Like this?
yeah that might work
Not working
can you retry a few time and tell me the problem ?
Im not even killing one mob
woa
can silas use his ult? if he can't then you should use silvina for some distraction
silvina replace silas, she should give some distraction
i hope it last long enough until daimon ramp up
if you have dura call put it on daimon too
Now 2 guys are alive
maybe lvl up mirael then silvina a bit more then comeback, it should be easier
Ok
Help?
In AFK Helper and Winning formation in game everyone seems to use Queen in the first fight here https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=37&stage=16# anything else that would work if I don't have Queen?
Should i swap tasi and twins out of the crystal? And whats a good team comp
Queen is used there for perma cc. You can try to use gorvo instead. Gl with that level, I needed Skriath's 30
damn my Skriath is 1/3 😆
another question if you don't mind... POP for the 2nd team I see again a lot of people used him and I don't own him yet 😅 anything else would you recommend?
what’s a good team i can do here? while i’m getting through things, everyone is dying rather fast and i’m relying on ainz ult to win
Skriath 1/3 is useless. Card him rn if you can.
PoP is kind of unique, you can try Joker probably
@nocturne bane he should be 303 at least? Also I feel like I'm behind on all Dimensional 😅 only have AAA+Merlin
read pins in #classic-questions
I need help, do i need to level more or
try lyca instead of nemora
No skriath is fine 103. Idk why but I couldn't pass this stage without 303 nevertheless most people win with 103/203
nemora only there to bait silvina cuz otherwise ainz gets ded quickly
ugh daimon got 3 ults off and did like 4 mil damage and I still lost :(
put brutus lower then estrilda can deal with tasi
I've scripted for 30 mins and still couldn't win as well at 1/3 lol I'm going to make him 103 for now to see
Without his 3/9 he's useless
look how i beat that stage
but I'm on a higher stage unless u beat 22-6 already
i dont even have strong heroes like you
o u did beat it
it's cuz ur ainz is 20 levels higher and is ascended with 1 star lol
I only have 4 cards on hand, so will be stuck on this stage for a while then hahaha
yeah but still, you can beat it, just try to use brutus lower and estrilda up
oof I beat it just had to get the double ainz ult
You can use 2 cards to 3 him imo
yeah ainz ult does 2m dmg per even on mythic
wha 22-9 was so easy what
Sorry I meant he is Si01/3
Wait, he already has 3/9 furns ?
How do I beat his
that took a while I did it tho
Anyone?
My bad, I thought you meant he had 1/9 furn. Yours is ok then. Let me see your tree for 37-16 ?
@warm maple what's the rest of your box look like
add brutus to rc, go for Brutus/tasi Front arden/mireal/ athalia-nemora-silvania BL
Mireal in front?
Didn't work
send a ss of your battle screen at the end
and btw- get used to retrying, this game is based on RNG
put athalia in the mid on the backline, mireal behind brutus, and your last backline hero in the remaining open position
Ah. Good luck, it is kinda low
I guess it's time to start collect more juice 😂 I've been pushing for Poe coins that's why
I need help
I’ve been stuck for so long
What am I doing wrong? I see the same team with lower RC level as victorius, but everytime I try Thoran comp it is always a defeat
Any suggestions on how to beat this?
who should i use? a lot of people are dying too fast
well brutus in front of daimon maybe just so daimon doesnt die too fast but silvina prob gonna target ur ainz so idk
yeah i’ve got past that level i just need a solid team to make
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=13&stage=5# try one of these comps?
Who should I try?
Please help me with 17-24
nvm, passed with this formation
Help me with
The notes says it is impossible to kill Izold without critical hit so I recommend to equip helm t0 to Thoran. You can try: Tidus, Lorsan, Thoran, Pippa, Kelthur instead: https://afkhelper.nax.is/images/chapters/37-12_1632121931.webp
can someone help me to pick a team ? iam stuck in chapter 14 , u can dm me if u want
31-60 help?
@valid comet use Brutus where rosaline goes, u don't need eironn I guess
@brave oriole having to retry a good bit but it should win with brutus and ferael swapped tol
nara would work best there
Help 22-10
pls hlep
Any tips on this one?
brutus instead of talene maybe
brutus on estrildas place, put nara down in corner
Can someone help?
do you have your own brutus
Yes but no dupe
dont put daimon in the front
put him infront of your daimon, place shemira bottom row left
Like this?
ye
I try
Got so close with that one but I keep getting wiped with two enemies at super low hp left
try lyca instead of daimon
she will give haste so faster ult on ainz, he prob can carry you alone
Any ideas?
I actually moved around a few armor and equipped thoran and brutus with some stronger stuff and got it! Thank you for the tip about brutus :)
put daimon backline and use tank infront
daimon
hodgkin
ferael
granit
silas
yeah he is way stronger then any other tank becouse his imunity
Silas
granit
Ferael
Hodkin
Daimon
Worked perfect thank you
Someone help
very much stuck, do i just need levels?
no, you need to read the beginner guide and stop making those legend
Every single bad investment will slow down your progression
I can help you with this level or maybe next level lineup, but how about next chapter? You’re gonna facing hard stuck until you have proper units and investment
Beginner guide at pinned message in #classic-questions btw
Good lineup?
And are twins even useful so early in game?
For TR yeah, but other than that not much. Perhaps in some very specific stages
wat about grez instead of peggy
Roster advice?
Who do I use?
Please help e
No idea who I should be building or going for, any help would be greatly appreciated. On 11-40
u seem to be on the right track but ascending to Legendary without the resources to ascend them to Legendary+ is an easy way to get stuck i think
Bruh
Show your hero box
What SI is Tasi
7
Brutus Grezhul Lyca Tasi Daimon
With these character how would you say I beat 15-40. I can shift levels around
Skreg Brutus Lyca Tasi Daimon, make sure you read the guide pinned in #classic-questions you have a lot of stupid mistakes
Should I swap Daimon and Grez? Daimon has been my carry forever and has full faction gear
No, both is good
Try to make grez furniture 9F and he will be really good
Daimon meanwhile is one of the best early game carry
Both are good investment, and stop making those legend for no reason, those are bad investment, you’re wasting your fodders
won't be that great till he either gets an alna or oden, maybe getting izold to 3f would be better, but yes, grez op, and so is daimon
True, but I won’t swap scroll Grez with daimon for sure lol
yes, def not, maybe estrilda for rowan or oden/silas
I’m stuck here
On them early lvls I swapped around formations until Odin would pick the assassin and portal her before she hit ur back row
Idk if that helps or not
Any tips on who to use?
Go read the pins in questions @warm maple
Why?
swap brutus and hypo guy
Hypo and Brutus for who? because my hypo dude carried me this far
the positions
no-just keep the formation you showed, but just swap positions of frontline ffs
Oh
Unless you already know, making all those heroes legendary is a bad idea. The pins gives some ideas on how to fix things up and general tips on progression, very useful stuff
^
Yes Ik it's a bad idea I didn't have discord before I did all that And I cba or bothered working on a new one and I did and I'm stuck on chapt 7 and no one could help me
And that didn't work
Well if you’re aware that’s fine. Just try not to lock too much more fodder into them and also make sure your wishlists are fixed
What should my wishlist be?
I've seen people say that so many times I just don't understand on how it changes much
cause it does with meta heroes
I've had it go from belinda lucius shemira brutus to morrow gywneth daimon kren
All that info can be found in the pins. The short answer is your progression depends heavily on who you get copies of. You want to build these heroes early or you will get gated early
Who are those I feel my main problem is daimon is just elite at my stage
you don't need to know, point is, meta changes, and if you want to stay good at the game you need to keep up with the meta/guides out there
Ok I followed the guide on a new account but I'm stuck on chapt 7 u think you can help me get past that?
chap 7....never have I seen someone stuck there....just retry a bunch of times...
I’m not sure what you’re asking. If you are stuck in an early chapter the usual advice is that wukong or mirael should be overleveled at least 20-40 levels over the rest of your team so they can solo carry.
I have retried many times different comps and everything had many people help me with setups and nothing worked they told me how to level people my formation and nothing really worked
Remember this is an afk game, there is no shame in waiting for more resources through the afk timer.
I would use hogan over the mauler tank
why not lucius then?
Any ideas?
yes. retry it
Help please I can figure this out
@dull flame I have 3 Mireals elite+ can I make her legendary?
fawkes
rosaline
cecilia
rowan
belinda

uh show me heroes
K
not much anyone can do, you're not even in early game yet
Rosa on who?
who do you think(belinda)
hmm, tough choice. Might be better to save it and wait for rowan copies
I have Rowan Elite+
yeah, but to take him Legendary+, you need another e+ copy of him
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wait
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@dull flame another question if I get another wilder elite+ should I make Arden legendary or Saurus
I'm sorry who tf is leaf person?
send the name
No like the symbol The hero choice? Wilders
i’m loving this convo
Once more I am asking for help
@dull flame And it did actually work after 30 times so thx
lmao np
Uhm what tf?
Am I even expected to beat this ??
no ofc not
I can’t progress without killing it how do I progress in the voyage of wonders
merlin
brutus
ainz
rowan
prince
look it up on youtube, I can't give you a full guide
Mezoth is insane
just a fun fact I actually did that battle and made it through, but I think your supposed to just die
no one
Huh
@warm maple what makes u believe that the guides dont work for you
Wdym I said it's working it's just now I'm stuck and idk what to do
both of you guys are so new, I think neither of you have the right to talk about guides
This aint my main but you’re probably still right
what's your main?
HOLY SHIT I BEAT IT 😭
show us your heroes.....
great! now keep going!
your account is very messed up.....
🤔
too many legendaries...
How do you have ezo
Ok
Would Daimon or Thoran be a better tank?
thoran, daimon is a dps
Okay thanks
np
@dull flame Is Fawkes good?
nope
Mk just needed to know I changed my wishlist and instantly got him
I also pulled a copy of Brutus and made him Elite+ is that good?
I'm stuck if anybody can help Isabella is my main problem
swap athelia to be opposite to isabella?
@warm maple hogan, golus, arden, isa, athalia
I figured it out I use tasi
Golus is bad I couldn't even pass chapt 7 stage 4 with that
Every hero is generally bad early game 
lol
what should i focus on building
Nah, just posted to the wrong server lol
Any thoughts on what I have. And whats the best team I am able of making
This is my current team
That fight is skippable if you do the map right
I figured it out and I got all the loot without that fight yay
Ainz Albedo Arthur Brutus Prince will probably let you push very far
Daimon Safiya Rowan Lyca Lorsan also works
Ah okay thanks
Don't frontline Albedo in campaign/tower
Yeah but the gimmick is her 3r
You let a support frontline and die she becomes the best tank 
Daimon and Rowan
ive een trying both since day one but my luck sucks
ive gotten 3/4 form like boxes
Rowan has good heals and daimon at the higher lvls is good dps
Just keeping trying!
ik
ima try to get davinci and bond him with my shamera and see if he can be a somewhat good carry unit
im just gonna wait till Saturday than i can stargaze with my like 70 cards
im one boss off stargazing but im stuck so far like i cant even get more than 1 kill
anyone open to share their ideas? on what comp i should run
Read the pinned visual guide
Stuck for 2 days I’ve tried everything, mercenaries on cool-down too
Help pls
How do I beat this? Isabella is a problem with Silvina too
I have 2 good teams
5 pulls
Aniz comp
I need a strong third team to push into chapter 35-36
I'm at 34-20
get luc cheese prolly
Raku/mehira comp.
And anything with daimon works.
Thoran cheese also an option.
Baden becomes pretty unstoppable after 30 seconds dunno what to do
What should be my campaign lineup?
I can’t get any further. Any suggestions? Just Got shamira 10 min ago but stil can’t do nothing
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I have, i don’t understand anything
need help on this stage
eironn can pull find, put thoran front and arden behind him if arden can use root
if arden can't use root then put nara there
ok I'll give it a try
Can i even beat this or do i need to afk for lvl 200 RC
Took a long break, started fresh, have no idea what even current "meta" is. Who do I even use now?
Could anyone help please?
Check in #classic-questions pins message
200+ tries already, daimon killed 3 out of 5 enemies 2 times out of those retries but still far away from a win. Is there a better way to clear this?
Is this cheese ok?
Put erionn on position 5
put granit in position 2
Put pippa instead of arden
I can’t progress anymore and have no idea what to do. Would appreciate som pointers
In #classic-questions , there are some guides would help you
I have read most of it and i’m stil lost
I'd start with resetting shemira , lucius , wukong , lyca , tasi , rowan in the rickety cart
And remove nara , mirael , warek from crystal and level them up using the exp u got with shemira and wukong too
So u can have a crystal party where you put rowan , lyca , tasi there
Also try to get as many scrolls as you could because u need heroes
But isn’t shemira the best damage dealer?
No there are better heroes like daimon for example which is also a graveborn hero
Shemira has been nerfed since many patches ago
if someone's telling you that, they're living in 2019
Exactly
Just Saw a lot of poeple takling about her and Said she was good
But i don’t really have Anyone to deal damage
They won't realize how bad she will be after 5 chapters . Always dies and needs too much invest and not worth it
Try to summon daimon , he'll be a very good damage dealer even at E for early game
But i can’t get diamonds wothout progressing
Do you think my team is too weak to clear this stage? Coz all the winning formation teams were 700k+
Did you progress in kings tower? Peak of times?
Yeah floor 98 and i’m stuck
I mean erionn is causing big problems for you if I was right by pulling everyone into your team and that'll destroy them in 1 sec especially niru is there which one shots everyone
Ok so first follow what I said your box is bad tbh
Then try to learn the game mechanics by checking volkin games , he has a beginners guide
Aight i’ll do that
I tried other formations as well (like a lot) and this is the one where daimon can get atleast 1-2 ults.
Is daimon equipped with call?
Yeah
Yeah i watched that and i just Think u have to have so much knowledge about the champs to make a decent team comp
Put him in front
Put granit instead of brutus
Put erionn on position 5
I tried using granit and he dies in 2 seconds :( Should I put him instead of thoran?
Does thoran curse someone?
So I level Nara mirael and Warek?
After removing them from crystal yes
Then level up wukong and shemira for a crystal party
I did that yes but the crystal is on cooldown now
so if erionn pulls lyca while she is cursed that should kill her instantly also killing arden maybe if daimon ults twice atleast
No worries just level them up and put heroes in crystal
What happens is that thoran takes a hit first and drops to 10 percent hp then he does his curse and lyca takes very less damage and something heals her back
I see that she activated her ability to heal
help please guys
Spam retry
okay
Am i prioritizeing right?
Yes , now spend gems on crystal or wait 24 hrs
Ainz wont work until si30 so its either u spam retry and pray or wait
they told me i just needed si20
Lies
Read guides pls 
You can find some pinned ones on question tab, like this one for example
Brutus is quite effective for stalling even as low ascension. Before 161 use shemira backline and use her frontline after 161 that she gains more survivability. You could use Rosaline instead of lorsan and make her follow shemira for that fight. You could try thoran, brutus, shemira, Rosaline Lyca/ferael 
Ahh almost worken but the vedan doesn’t die
I have xp to spare who u Think i should level up?
Wukong to 100
done, i have more
Keep it until Mirael reaches Legendary+
okay thanks
on discord or afk?
Afk , u might wanna use some of my heroes
Oh and we are hiring members for our guild now if ur interested
ur list is full
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i would to join if i can
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We accept anyone and everyone
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How's ainz at e60?
Excellent for cheesing anything you see if ur running a dim comp/celestial comp for faction bonus
Hmm, will get Luc first
She is good too
She cheeses fast too as well
how does that work
You can recruit 3 heroes from your friends so you can use them to help you in hard stages or stages you are stuck in (one time use)
Or an infinite use in peak of times and voyage of wonders (these has good rewards)
Ainz is awfully squishy in 37. Can't even use Arthur anymore, had to swap to a full dim cc team
Lab too and misty valley
Yea true that he needs levels but still a good troop for events and stuff
where do i recruit?
Click on friends -> short term -> you should see heroes you can select from
The hero you recruit will match your average level (sum of highest 5 troops ÷ 5 if i was right)
This
who should i recruit?
Check my ainz , he is a very good troop
Oh fun fact alna ainz is super op
ezio ainz too
My ezio never worked well for some reason.....
pretty sure he doesnt have shroud
He and I just aren't compatible.....
Still he is a good dim and a legendary video game character
Try silvana instead of brutus (hes weak at this tier)
anyone else i should request, i did ainz
Ok I'll accept , also u have a freedom of choice everyone is good
aight thanks, but i still can't beat the level
Huh u requested arthur
But ok he is good ngl
think i requested ainz to?
Not sure what my team comp should be
Show all your Heros pls :)
I would place lucius, Brutus, gwyneth, Roman and then shemira
But Thorn over Brutus doe
doesn't really go with waht i have tho. i was previosly advised to level as so
Always Level the 5 you Upgraded the most! They can Level higher then the others!
Yea, i pushed to stage 22 like that but idk, other maybe more right then me
shouldn't i use mirael cause she's the higest level?
so which units should i be using for my level and am on chapt 9 in campaign
She is good till 160 but your carry should be shemira, Level her up the highest
Lucius, hendrik, gwyneth, shemira and get rowan or rosa. Use Lyca till then
Shemira is an insane early game carry, with an rosa and rowan in the Team she can ult 3 times super fast and just destroy the enemies
I just told you that if you would have her, no need to be rude haha
Help pls.
Pixie bitch deletes Daimon which is just enough time for Brutus' invuln to run out.
And I die.
Nara hook Tasi, you will be facing her a lot
Oh right. Stupid.
Sometimes hook doesn’t work, then try 2 carry. Like ainz + daimon
Or even lyca speed up works, basically you’ll be seeing her very often
Furthest I got was killing ulmnus, then I just get ripped to pieces by everyone else.
I feel like getting through this will literally be impossible till I at least ascend Daimon.
Nvm, somehow managed it.
Don’t give up too quickly, some stages required a lot more retries for the RNG or even crit to work
Tbh I would suggest reading the pinned guides in #classic-questions
Last fight left, can't get it to work
Still got Ainz team open
Nevermind, literally just use Antandra
This is impossible to beat
help
@ebon hazel just tried, didn’t work once that guy goes into the ult wit the bats everything dies in 1 shot basically
You have Brutus?
I don’t, but I moved it around a little and was able to get it ty!! No idea how ima get any further in the boss fights lol but atleast got passed that one
so like how tf do i beat this stupid arena team without using my own ainz against it. i tried eironn 5 succ with lucretia and makoto, using raku and joker, i really don't get how in the world this enemy setup is SO cracked
his joker and ezio is 9 furn e30 +30 si, and his prince is e30 3 furn +20, but I don't get how it just does so much damage.
but as soon as his joker all out attacks even once, I am just instantly finished since either the PoP blows up or ezio just picks off everything
He's got no healers. You could probably win with a flora stall
Or some kind of Alna comp
yeah um no my flora is mythic+ +0. and i straight up have no alna. if i did i would be able to beat him easy lmao
Can I see your box?
sure but i doubt it will help
i even tried leveling up a joker to +15, he just doesn't do enough damage to the enemy team even with conjunction with PoP
Can anyone help me pick out a good lineup for campaign
I know your flora isn't built, but I still think you might have a chance with some kind of stall. You could use thoran and link joker to someone with lorsan, and maybe Oden/feral to delay and CC
also joker gains life leech as well as ezio from their engrave stats
Did not know that, rip my plan.
ezio is the real bitch here, its near impossible to kill him off with albedo in the team
use ezio to kill the ezio
What about a cycle comp, with Ezizh Rowan tasi twins
swap twins and skreg placement just as a general recommendation for that team
ezio only needs 1 ult to delete your team
btw how come twins don't frontline? don't u want them to ult first, and they gain a lot more energy when upfront? whereas skreg frontline seems kinda...mehish?
I've always thought twins were too squishy to be frontline...
that's literally what I'm saying, in the ss you have skreg frontline and twins backline
thats..not. the twins are frontline in the ss
wut
literally skreg is frontline
ah yeah nvm that was the attempt where i tried to swap twins and skreg because of PoP bursting them down but still didn't work lmao
Stuck here, help is appreciated. :)
mereal in the middle, put daimon in:
daimon
brutus
mereal
thoran
rosaline
Worked like a charm, cheers!
Should I be trying this with Ainz or AGB?
I think that fight is thoran cheesable
Passed it with AGB, and already got thoran in 3
Though for some reason my Thoran went from 5% chance to like 400 fights and nothing for zero reason
I hate it when that happens
yeah stuck at 37-8 because of the same issue
got it once in 5 tries, crashed when retrying the last battle, now have retried the thoran stage for a 100 times and can't do it
I got it in 20 tried 3 times while chaning up AGB artifacts, now nothing
Do you remember how long it took you to do 37-4 after beating 36-60? trying to time my mythic tricking well
Also looked at afk helper didn’t help
It took me like an hour or so....it wasnt too hard
wow. okay maybe I should try to push
had to thoran cheese for 37-5 to 37-7, but 37-8 is a pain
I been stuck here forever ples helppp I need ideas
Extremely random question but why do you have an ascended Brutus
well I got it when I played in 2019 I've just come back a few weeks ago
Oh okay ic
brutus actually helps at higher ascensions, his 203 makes him have 2 extra seconds of immunity
Yeah cause everyone always recommends to me only to have Brutus at e or e+ never a
lol I came back and there was so much random stuff and I had to change my heroes out for different ones it was kinda bad
help
tried both ainz and daimon comps but I can't seem to get anything to work
tried both ainz and daimon comps but I can't seem to get anything to work
rowan, tasi, lyca, ferael, daimon? Have athalia go for lyca since she does her job of initial haste. Try to keep rowan potion circle away from daimon since u want tasi to eat the energy potion
Or rowan brutus lyca ainz rosa following ainz maybe might work i dunno.
seems incredibly unfun but doable: tasi is a matter of rng
Do you have +20 Pippa? She teleports Thoran and gives him immunity
Pippa is not built yet 🥲
I haven't seen clears of Thoran cheese for that floor. Do you have any chance have a +30 Lucretia or merced?
No, I’ll try and merc one
im a new player and on day 3 now. stalling at 6-39 now and cant help but feel like im pretty unlucky. just bought wukong shards in lab store to ascend him.
bad decision, i understand your feeling but stop doing that ever after
yeah youre supposed to get the arthur frags first right?
its my week 3 should i push my shemira to ascended? or is there any events wherein i can summon specific heroes i want to build moving up the levels because i know shemira's performance will begin to fall once i get to higher levels
shemira will get A eventually cause she's M+
If I were you I wouldn't use anymore emblems on her (use on rowan), and start to focus daimon, rowan and eironn
@thorny hawk
yes thats what im trying to do but i cant seem to pull copies of eironn unless i get it from shops
rowan i can ascend soon coz i got 2 copies last time i drew cards from the shops
anyway thanks mate yea i stopped using emblems on her but she's sitting on +20 sig item
I did the same thing, put all my resources into shem and now at chap 26 she's definitely starting to fall off. but lucky I've got daimon and ainz
I'm sure you know but don't buy him from stores, as long as he's on your wishlist you'll eventually get him
okay, so what should i do with my shop tokens? buy non dimensionals?
depends what shop
lab store priority is arthur
challenger store priority is merlin
save guild coins for mythic gear/upgrade emblems
and hero coins are good for purple stones
well hero coins mostly for dim exchange, purple stone value is way lower than that
aight, i guess i'll prioritize on getting arthur and merlin then thanks for that helped alot
Any idea on this level?
my id is 131293035
i can't remember which formation i used for this stage but our heroes is kinda similar
Cool sent u a request, thanks!
Looks like u had a bit better stuff. My Daimon in front just gets completely rolled instantly lol
maybe give it a few retries, rng matter a lot
Yeah sometimes he survived for a couple ults but still seems quite far away tbh
Tried like 100 times, best cases, enemy Brutus survived 3 times with 1 hp
anyone got an idea?
Turns out a few meant 183 tries lol now I'm in the tales tab
nara
thoran
eironn
brutus
your daimon
Getting infinite stunned by Tasi and ferael
just do the standard suck comp
daimon
brutus
eironn
thoran
nara
Daimon still just stunned till everyone else is dead tho
Feels like Tasi gets me no matter what
I prob just need more dust more levels
Can someone make me a team (it could also include the twins im about to buy them)
Help
Help
This possible?
yes possible but put daimon behind brutus
make rowan +30 then comeback to this stage
U mesn he should be lvl 210?
i mean make rowan signature item to +30, it should help a lot in speed
Is it a big diff between 29 to 30 ?
Should i change my team ?
should be ok with this comp, might change grez for brutus if fawkes dmg is good too
And what should i do in the time , like i finidhed every tower as far as i could , every laby, like legit i am totally stuck :(
keep playing daily and the resources will come eventually
@fiery wing how did you pass stage 29-15 ?
my daimon got wreck and nara can't pull because of the hypo mage dude
daimon eirron succing but daimon slot 3 and fereal slot 5
29-20 is athalia + tasi again tf
like this ?
no eirron back mid and fereal back bottom
yea, but fereal fear helps a lot since he is the one that stops tasi banishing daimon at the start
my ferael isn't fast enough
Make him naked
oh his wp make him slower
nice ty 
bruh help
Can someone make me a team i also have twins I got them after this screenshot
Read pinned guides in questions
I did like 5 times but I don't understand any of it 
Looking for help with 36-48. How to get started?
First few mistakes is that you combined ascended tier hero instead of legendary. Since it's harder to get ascended heroes. They should wait until you don't need legendary tier heroes anymore to feed to ascended tier
how can i beat this?
That's why stupid (26) asked you to see the pinned guide
helppp
I was just asking for an answer 🧍
If you want you can ping me idrc
move ferael to bottom and remove his weapon, use eironn in the middle
if ferael can use his fear then keep trying, if not then use nara instead
ferael at bottom and eironn in the middle
he can't suck ?
ye he insta dies
trying give him call, if he can't suck using call then we have to use different formation
i gave him call and better items now he can suck
i saw the future in this comp but i think i'll stall here for a while for another piece of mythic 
i'll try that 
help please? i can't decide a team
put arden in the middle instead of twins
yea it works 
Any advice?
hey if you find any stage that's hard but you passed pls take a picture for me 
i'm super bad at non-boss stage
tyvm
Should I use this team
No
Help
this mf stage 4 ults from daimon ult from fereal 2 rowan ults, still no one died wtf
Then what do I use
Can someone make me a team (I have twins too btw)
I need helf
I swear I hate seeing Tasi in PvE, they abuse Tasi way too much
Every one/two stages interval and there’s a Tasi since chap 24~29
I’m in chap 25 and I do remember there’s like more than 40 Tasi in 60 stages of chap 24
yeah tasi is annoying af, and when you combine that butterfly b*tch with other heroes its even worse
Well, Ezizh is also a fking pain
Any ideas folks? I've gotten super close with this lineup but theres always at least one enemy left by the end, and most times I get wiped out
How would I be able to thoran flora if flora is the only one left?
First ult kills all, second ult 4 seconds after flora drops
Aw man flora is super annoying, I've usually whittled her down with shemira or another one which does consistent damage
But I'm sure thats not the best way to do it
Shemira against flora? tf
Drop Ainz for Arden Fareal or Tasi, someone with stuns
Hm, I'll give that a try thanks
Yeah not the best I know ¯_(ツ)_/¯
i saw someone do this: when thoran ult and kill 4 (i think his thoran hasn't dead yet) enemy flora will drop down and kill thoran
then thoran revive he use slow speed and manually use ult when flora get out of the fear
If you have a Daimon at SI20 you won't need a secon carry
but idk if its doable in this situation and thoran have his revive after kill 4 other heroes
or maybe i remember it wrong
It kept my daimon from wiping out early but didnt quite make it through, I might just not be strong enough yet
Thank you for helping! I appreciate it a ton
What gear does rowan have?
maybe put daimon at bottom slot instead of upper slot then
No Daimon wants uppder there, Morbus sucks
yeah i know morvus suck but if his daimon can use shield before the stun and fawkes trap i think he will be find at bottom slot
cuz iirc my daimon sit there for this stage
hmm
rowan should use call
and t2 his boots asap when you can imo
I tried that and he rarely gets his shield up in time
You don't need to T2 him, he's okay with challice there, you want T1 boots and weapon as soon as possible
i think with call he will have higher chances to shield up before morvus stun
So like this?
Yes, now he shouldbe able to front line
well i don't think he can with that stage tho, mirael will burn him down in no time 
Drop Ainz for some CC
Oh, top or bottom slot?
if you want to put him frontline then he should be at bottom slot, or where daimon can reach his pot
Who should I replace ainz with? Heres what i have
Not sure, I dont use her much
i doubt that she can tho
Is there some way to tell?
replace ainz with tasi and she if she banish someone, if she can then its a great help for daimon
Still getting wiped out, although it did slow down how fast I get killed
