lineup-help

[regal valve]

hell nah, shem lasts 0.01 seconds on frontline with my best gear

[brave oriole]

Ehhh, you just need to play right with shem, at this deficit I doubt that she can t pass the stage. Your issues may be that you don't have rowan rosaline, and they are good lbs

[regal valve]

i have rowan but he is e

give me one team for shem

[brave oriole]

And this its bad, you should have a better rowan until now

[regal valve]

my rng bro, it sucks the whole time

i am just pushing to c24 so i can swap shem and daimon

[brave oriole]

Man, rng or not, you are lacking a lot of good heroes, so maybe your whish list suck?

[regal valve]

using begginer one from #classic-questions

i dont have a lot of diamonds for summons tho

[brave oriole]

Well, the safest it's to save for 3x10 pulls, bcs this way, it's guaranteed one elite pull

[regal valve]

i do that but still i cant get my rng to work out in my favour

[brave oriole]

Do you have an elite rosaline? To try shem?

[regal valve]

my best rng was like in 2019 when shem was metta and when i got her ascended in c17

[regal valve]

no, got 0 copies of her

i got lucky with grez these last few days

[brave oriole]

Okay. Well, look. Lucius works the best for now with dura's call. So try this team, lyca Brutus front, Lucius nemora ainz back

[regal valve]

with my faction scrolls

okay will try

[noble crag]

Help

[brave oriole]

Well, he's good, not sure how he works early, maybe with Lucius lvl would work much better

[regal valve]

he isnt m+ to go up to lvl200

[brave oriole]

@noble crag reset your silvina back to 120,anf push mirael to 160

@regal valve yeah, I'm just saying that maybe you need him m+

So he can actually tank some

[regal valve]

yeah he is legit 1 copy away from even ascended

i just need one more gb fodder

lucious fr got nerfed so bad

[brave oriole]

Lucius is great, just not late game

[noble crag]

Not working

[brave oriole]

@noble crag use rosaline instead of Silas, she may survive longer

[noble crag]

I dont have her

[brave oriole]

Mehira?

[regal valve]

c20 isnt lategame, he doesnt tank anything

[noble crag]

I dont ha e it too

[brave oriole]

Bcs u don't have a proper gear. He need good shoes for mspd and dura's call @regal valve

[regal valve]

i put duras call on him, m boots

[brave oriole]

U put lyca front of him, and he goes insta shield

Enchant the boots some stars

[regal valve]

it takes him some time

yeah i did that they are 3 star, i dont want to 5 star non m+ gear

[brave oriole]

Yeah, 5 it's too much

@noble crag use rowan mirael lyca Backline

If you want, u can put lyca front down and daimon back

[regal valve]

wtf is with him not shielding

he just goes and kills himself

[brave oriole]

Ferael ghosts maybe, this its why I'm saying to charm ferael

[regal valve]

i am trying to charm but rng

[brave oriole]

Just restart until u charm and so on

[noble crag]

It workes when i change brutus to esttillda

[brave oriole]

Put some good shoes on nemora for haste

So she charms a little faster

[brave oriole]

Nice man 👍

[regal valve]

i put m boots on her still nothin

[brave oriole]

How looks your current team? Takes time to scroll up for the stage ss

[brave oriole]

Aha, now try to swap lyca Brutus, Lucius ainz places, and see if works better

[regal valve]

yeah a bit better

[brave oriole]

Did you charmed ferael?

[regal valve]

just some rng and it will work out

[noble crag]

Now thats real problem xdd

[brave oriole]

Always drop Brutus front of saveas.

[regal valve]

brutus instead of estrilda

[brave oriole]

And Silas it's not needed, use lyca for haste

Front of daimon down and that is. Brutus lyca, rowan mirael daimon

[regal valve]

ferael cant get charmed for some reason, i dont see a heart above him

ainz gets one ult off and dies, almost gets 2nd one

[brave oriole]

Mhm, try rowan instead of nemora for a sec

[velvet belfry]

ferael getting charmed comes down to RNG, he can def get charmed but u gotta mash retries

[regal valve]

ik i am even playing at 4x speed

[brave oriole]

Maybe your nemora is fat

[regal valve]

rowan would be better if he survived for 2.6sec longer

[pale kettle]

What To do lucious keeps healing them

Never mind I won

[noble crag]

Any tips?

[torpid lance]

Help please.

Used teams in 1 and 2 are Ainzbedo and Luc 5p

[maiden marsh]

Try alna grez daimon fera oden

[torpid lance]

Worked eventually. Thanks

[quasi horizon]

Just started playing, any team suggestions?

[gloomy hearth]

Help

[pale kettle]

Stage?

[gloomy hearth]

10-40

[quasi horizon]

I’m at stage 6-8

Early game , any team suggestions?

[velvet belfry]

brutus hogan frontline
arden lorsan mirael (your carry) backline

[quasi horizon]

@velvet belfry I don’t have a Elite arden tho

[velvet belfry]

youll get one eventually, but if thats an issue to you just use nemora until your arden is ascended

[quasi horizon]

Is arden better than nemora?

[velvet belfry]

once arden reaches 101+ he will be very good for earlygame, and even moreso at 140, then hes relevant till about when mirael drops off

nemora is an ok healer but will drop off as you get further unless you get copies for her, and then by midgame you will mostly use her for charming specific targets until you can get her to A and start building her furniture

they do different things, so its hard to say one is better than the other for where youre at, but arden is generally more useful for earlygame since you can get his copies quickly and get him to L+. also you will want him on your crystal

you can also run arden and nemora together if you dont want to use lorsan

[quasi horizon]

Hmm okay

[dull flame]

nemora is a terrible healer at every stage of the game, talene and silas dominate healing...Arden should be replaced asap, he's susceptible to mage attacks like silvina and shemira @quasi horizon

[pale kettle]

If you just look at that box and want to reach ch. 8
The advice is way more simple. I answered him in questions detailed

[dull flame]

good

[quasi horizon]

I mainly need a boss beating team

I can clear normal stages easily but the bosses get me

[dull flame]

campaign isn't boss

[quasi horizon]

The boss stages i mean

[dull flame]

it's the same thing, if you say boss, people are going to think it's wrizz or twisted realm

sometimes you will get stuck on a non-boss stage, that's when it sucks the most

usually both are the same difficulty tho, at least before chap 31

[pale kettle]

You need 1 hero at lvl 100
Two at 80 isn't efficient

[dull flame]

^

[pale kettle]

100, 4x 60
2x 100, 3x 60

[quasi horizon]

To unlock lvl 100 i need my whole team lvl 80 tho right?

[dull flame]

hm

[pale kettle]

60 ....

Read #classic-questions again ^^

[dull flame]

I feel like if everyone would just check all the guides, and keep up with the news, there would be a lot more progression done

[pale kettle]

Yes. I talk the same early game stuff everyday... ch. 1-8 guide is needed
Before they care for all the other stuff

[dull flame]

problem is most people don't look at guides. Just had my whale deputy who plays off meta tell a new player to +30 tasi....

[dull flame]

nara the fereal

[pale kettle]

[high marlin]

My tasi is 209

[dull flame]

same, had to explain to half my guild it wasn't the +30 that makes her meta

[pale kettle]

daimon cannot ult once like that

[dull flame]

daimon
thoran
rowan
lyca
fereal

[high marlin]

I'd do Brutus over Thoran imo

[pale kettle]

rowan lyca and ferael are getting 1 hit

[dull flame]

thoran has taint ability, it can allow daimon to kill an enemy faster

[dull flame]

doesn't matter, lyca can die at the start, you just want fereal to get his initial fear

[high marlin]

Yeah but once he dies he'll no longer be a body block for diamon

[dull flame]

daimon needs an enemy to die to proc his si properly

[elfin cloak]

hlep Arden annoying

[dull flame]

not to mention, faction bonus

[high marlin]

Yeah but if diamon dies before starting up then no point

[dull flame]

thoran can revive and fear, is really nice

[pale kettle]

Brutus >>> Thoran
Buying time for daimon at reasonable deficit

[high marlin]

Yeah but when thoran dies the 1st time the enemies move on

[dull flame]

at late game sure

[pale kettle]

Maybe Thoran works there, just try

[high marlin]

If diamon doesn't get started before thoran dies then he'll die too. Brutus keeps the enemies from reaching him

[dull flame]

brutus only has 1 life, thoran has 2

[high marlin]

2 lives vs 1 with invincibility

[dull flame]

thoran with si is invincible and a dps

[high marlin]

They dont have the Si and probably aren't using him as a dps

[pale kettle]

Newbie here, who should i put in my team and are there any notable units to look out for in the future ?

For refference i just swaped ogi for wu kong and changed spots with daimon

Ping me for any responses, ty

[warm swan]

@pale kettle

[dull flame]

#lineup-help message I have a alt account that I mess around with, daimon and thoran work together, their damage are almost split 50 50 sometimes....

[pale kettle]

So i should use the fodders together with daimon or level them up apart from my main team ?

[warm swan]

Did you even read the last part

[dull flame]

wut

just....power lvl the daimon. Your so early in the game that nothing else matters

[pale kettle]

I understood that but the last part of the pic isnt really clear to me

[warm swan]

Use Daimon as carry. Lvl Daimon until you can't lvl him anymore.

[dull flame]

^

[pale kettle]

Why not just say that directly instead of making me read thru the pic

[dull flame]

see the early in the game that nothing else matters? Yeah. Soon, it will matter, and soon, you'll have to read up on guides if you don't want to suck at this game. The one he/she @warm swan showed you is a great beginning guide

[warm swan]

^what they said. Still plenty to read.

[pale kettle]

That's your first step. Lvl 100 prio
Check #classic-questions beginner guide. Copy tavern wishlist

[pale kettle]

So i keep the team as it is and level the other fodder units seperately right ?

You only ever level 5 heroes

Some rests for 20 dias needed throughout the game

[zinc maple]

I can't for the life of me get close, Isabella just one shots my whole team

[pale kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/840276944838197278/886978180907405362/Screenshot_20210907-193901_Gallery.jpg

Bc i just made the team like this since i understood from it that i will level up these units untill i get the feature to have my units same level as my 5th strongest

You have crystal spots. Levelling a 6th hero is sus

[dull flame]

^

[pale kettle]

So mirael shouldnt be leveled right

Alright, we make it ez now

[dull flame]

crystal isn't open till 4-36 tho I think

[zinc maple]

yea

[pale kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568025210498842633/889245374257180672/image0.png

[pale kettle]

Daimon 100,
mirael, wukong, morrow, thoran 60
Do that and push.

5 heroes are leveled up. Not 9

Gotcha ty

[zinc maple]

got a clue anyone?

[dull flame]

you willing to use merc?

[zinc maple]

only if there's no other way

[dull flame]

garrison albedo?

[zinc maple]

don't have enough stuff

[dull flame]

why not?

you garrisoning anyone else?

[zinc maple]

ainz

[dull flame]

not queen?

[zinc maple]

nah I bought her

[zinc maple]

the only reason I dont want to use merc now

[dull flame]

ah....

[brave oriole]

@zinc maple check fawkes who coffins

[zinc maple]

he dies instantly

[brave oriole]

In what team?maybe niru one hit him, try him up

[dull flame]

look on afk helper

[brave oriole]

Theres 99%daimon setups I guess

[zinc maple]

that's the problem...

[brave oriole]

Try Lucius vs silvina with call, should stop the jump, but dunno if he can survive to Isa

[zinc maple]

he survives a bit with rowan heals

[brave oriole]

Okay, but with dura's call, he cancel silvina jump

So just use some classic team, Lucius shem, ferael rowan rosaline. Try grace on shem incase she have to 1v1 niru, and maybe try more heroes instead of ferael, dqimon/fawkes/nara etc

[dull flame]

using a lucius against graveborns......

[brave oriole]

Yeah, bcs he can cancel silvina dash, shield/heal and so on

[dull flame]

.

[zinc maple]

wtf is Isabella like honestly, so stupid

[dull flame]

she was actually worse than trash before, but got buffed

still a pain in chap 37, if she ults, you lose

[zinc maple]

yep, and it's stupid cause she steals all the energy she needs so quick

whoever designed KT 298 needs to take a long walk off a short pier...

[dull flame]

lmao wait until you see the rest

for me kt isn't even hard, but I get powercapped....

[zinc maple]

I can't wait...🙄

[dull flame]

I think 550 or 500 was a double athalia double rosaline stage, can't remember

[zinc maple]

gross

[zinc maple]

I gave in

[dull flame]

rip

[brave oriole]

U only have to learn how to use shemira, until daimon

[dull flame]

^Just put shem with rosaline and rowan, a lyca and daimon

[pale kettle]

Whats my best team?

[dull flame]

nothing. Well, I suppose it would be this:
daimon
brutus
mereal
lyca
rowan

[pale kettle]

Thank you also what do you mean none?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle 1/3/5 are Backline, 2/4 Frontline

[pale kettle]

.guidelist

[dull flame]

because you don't have great carries yet

[fiery wing]

do mira carry until you got 4 copies of daimon

[elfin cloak]

help

[elfin cloak]

why nothing on resonating crystal or am I dum

[shut glacier]

I got a problem with Mehira comp at37-8 why it has failed like over 30 times? My gears and stats are better than those in Afkhelper

My Mehira is M+30, my Windbinder is5* , my rosa is 9F, my Brutus is 3F+20, Ezizh +103F

Do u know why ??? It failed so many times. The best try was that there was only Belinda or Farael enermy left

[rigid imp]

@fiery wing hey man how did you past stage 28-26 ?, tried so many comp but nothing work

[fiery wing]

fereal

brutus
thoran
daimon
rowan

rowan needs to ult twice or more

[rigid imp]

oh holy f

[fiery wing]

the prob is either fereal or niru just smacked u

[rigid imp]

my daimon can't even ult

[fiery wing]

well i have 4 star call tho that makes a difference

[fiery wing]

show box

[elfin cloak]

@fiery wing

[fiery wing]

try

fereal

brutus
rowan/lyca
daimon
nara

[elfin cloak]

I don't think that'll get enough damage tho

[frozen cloak]

Help would be appreciated

[rigid imp]

daimon always have enough dmg, you just need to give him a chance

[marble birch]

For thoran. Does his physical resistance increase with stars. If so should we star him up and to how many stars

@frozen cloak Gwen tasi rowan lyca and 5th can be Fawkes/Silas /Hodgkin's. Get your lyca in the Pentagon rn. Kick satrana if no spots. She's good as a carry but not as a elite copy

Swap Gwen between Belinda and mirael. Whoever does more dmg or ults first

[pale kettle]

I just can't beat this stage
Any idea?

[umbral whale]

need help. ferael, hogan, estrilda wont let daimon ult ever. He can get atmost 1 ult before he is chain cced and dies soon after

[rigid imp]

use brutus and don't place daimon on estrilda charge path

[rigid imp]

so what happen with this comp ? ainz can't ult or anything?

[umbral whale]

she just 1 shots the other laner and dashes to daimon anyways if I place him away from her, and what abt ferael? He is the biggest problem here. need a way to deal with him

[pale kettle]

He usually gets one ult, but that's not enough. Then everyone dies

[rigid imp]

so i think get more lvl on those fodder then, cuz currently you're not capped and the only problem is resources shortage

[nocturne aurora]

Any suggestions? 😅 I’m new to this!

[rigid imp]

he can't kill anyone with 1 ult? thats suck cuz he need to kill everyone with 1 ult or at least 3 enemy for your current team, if he can't do that then its pretty much ended

[pale kettle]

Nope, they survive with like 1 hp
I might just have to level him up or upgrade his gear at this point

[proud estuary]

If anyone can help

I keep on getting out healed hahaha

[topaz chasm]

I only have 1 more try with ainz, and the highest damage ive been able to get on the final boss is ~224m, and im trying to get that 280.. any lineup tips?

Ive tried Arthur/Albedo/Ainz/Rowan/Rosaline but cant get past that

[high marlin]

Please don't use that comp. The fact ainz got 200m is a surprise

[rigid imp]

use nara instead of eironn and give nara call ?

[topaz chasm]

What comp can I use?

[rigid imp]

can you post all your heroes and relic in #882428635213078538, there are many kind people there

[topaz chasm]

Ohh

[topaz chasm]

Thank you 💙

[proud estuary]

ill tru

rip thane keep on shreading my charas , annoying chara to go up against

[proud estuary]

Nvm got it , didn’t realise that the elf pull is useful here

[proud estuary]

Thank you fam regardless

[fiery wing]

oh boy you will always gonna use that once you used it

[pale kettle]

what would be the best team i could do from my units?

[olive zinc]

Help with this stage?

[proud estuary]

If I can only trace back what formation I did lol . Sorry fam . But let me try to recall what I did

If I’m not wrong I made Damien as the main dps , u can use rowen and replace thoran unless u are using his cheese dps strat and i used the elf in slot 4 so Damien in slot 5 can deal tons of dps to the crowded mobs

Then thoran can be slot 1?

So
Lyca
Eirron Thoran
Damien rowen

@olive zinc

[olive zinc]

Daimen and rowen at the front?

Wait nvm dw

[elfin cloak]

maybe... but there's never enough time

[shut glacier]

Why I copied this and failed many times?? My Mehira is M+30 ,5* windbinder my Rosaline is 9F , Ezizh is+103F, Rowan +303

[warm maple]

Any good comps to use for chapter 10

[pale kettle]

Your Brutus has si 20
and you use the same artifacts ? Has to be a difference in gear / elder tree I'd assume

[proud estuary]

U cleared ?

[olive zinc]

nah doesnt work

always like 2-3 alive

[elfin trench]

Anyone got some tips for a good team? Gonna get daimon soon for the recent event since

[proud estuary]

Sorry I can’t remember how I cleared and I got stuck at 25-52 LOL for very long

[keen verge]

Does anyone have an idea what to use against that lineup?

My units

I have a tentative win against another team with Thali, Granit, Lucretia, Eironn, Skriath. So I'd like to avoid using those 5

[rigid imp]

prolly thoran cheese if you can make thoran +30

[keen verge]

can't even make him SI20 soon

[rigid imp]

then i dunno, most comp i saw on afk helper use thoran +30 to cheese stage like this

[pale kettle]

I wanna keep this team but idk at what spot im supposed to put my characters

[rigid imp]

use kren instead of oden ?

[pale kettle]

Never

[pale kettle]

I said I wanna keep this team

[zealous iron]

Put rowan middle

[zealous iron]

Also only level 5 people, remove the levels on all the other ones

[pale kettle]

People always say that but when I ask how they just don't answer

[zealous iron]

Go to rickety cart in the town

I think its 20 diamonds per hero or something like that

[rigid imp]

yeah only 20 diamonds each

[pale kettle]

Do I retire?

[pale kettle]

Or reset

[zealous iron]

Reset

Retire is for common (green) heroes

[zealous iron]

Perfect

[pale kettle]

Nice

[rigid imp]

focus on oden, he's fast if he can survive

[regal valve]

Why tf u got einz so early

[umbral whale]

Desperately need help. I just cant clear stages with estrilda no matter how much I try

[light thorn]

Hi

[royal stag]

Mistakes were made

[regal valve]

dude

not even c20+ got einz

[rigid imp]

you can try this if you have these heroes
lyca

thoran
eironn
brutus
daimon
all other work at E, just need to put them in RC, give it some try

[umbral whale]

I dont have eironn and brutus on my rc I'll just wait

[rigid imp]

you should put those 2 in your rc, you will use them a lot from these point

[regal valve]

Daimon
Brutus
Ferael
Lyca
Hogan

this is how i cleared it on my other account

[umbral whale]

i'll have to wait for a few days to add brutus i guess

[golden perch]

23-2. Daimon is 200, Tasi 150, Rowan 260. Any lineup changes or just need more hero exp?

[regal valve]

Hero xp would greatly help, send your whole hero box i think i could make a squad

[golden perch]

Yea think it’s mainly hero exp but idk. Ch24 has nice boost to exp so I was reluctant to use exp crate

[regal valve]

Where tf are your leveled heroes i need them

[golden perch]

First two pics

[regal valve]

Ok try this Daimon-Brutus frontline Ainz-Rowan-Rosaline on ainz

[golden perch]

Thanks. Everyone's splatting, Ainz gets about half his energy bar before dying

[regal valve]

Brutus on thane,

@pale kettle could you help a bit with this, i dont have shield on the albedo, didnt get it yet

[pale kettle]

if albedo is dying put her in back, lyca can just suicide frontline for the haste, so brutus lyca frontline

[burnt lily]

how to do this?

[regal valve]

oh okay

[regal valve]

didnt work, albedo dies so quick

[regal valve]

just put brutus infront of grez

[burnt lily]

who is grez

[regal valve]

grezhul, just put brutus one slot lower

[burnt lily]

ok

close but didnt work

[charred mason]

Im around mid Ch. 32.
What should my main and backup team be for the double stages?
I usually run Arthur, Daimon, Sylas, Rowan, flex. but idk if there’s a better team to work on.
Also im 1 copy away from ascended Lucretia and would like to incorporate her in a team! Please and thanks for the help

[regal valve]

AAA team, and maybe if you have resurces for it thoran chese

[maiden marsh]

Get 3F on skriath and you can run luc 5 pull, 30 raku for another carry option, and get a mehira if you don't have one already

[charred mason]

What’s aaa team?
For thoran i need pippa yeah? I havent done my choice rolls for the month yet.

Alright i have 1f on skirath already with 4 cards saved up!
I have just 1 copy of mehira, can get another for E+ from the event going on! Thanks

[regal valve]

Is there any way for me to beat this stage or do i need more afking

[regal valve]

Arthur/Albedo/Ainz

something like this

[regal valve]

dont ascend heros to legendary if oyu dont have copies for legendary+...

[charred mason]

Id have to garrison both albedo and ainz haha

[regal valve]

also these teams will work

[regal valve]

yeah its pain but after 6 moths its free

[maiden marsh]

That's on the backburner for now, between lucretia and daimon you have two viable teams as it is

[charred mason]

Daimon has been my carry this whole game so far haha.
I’d do the garrison slowly, so many resources

[regal valve]

yeah i suggest you do, daimon is a good cary but i am not an expert so dont listen my words seriously like other ones

[charred mason]

Alrighty haha.
Daimon has max everything so far but just 7F.
I’ll also focus on getting skirath better equipment and 3F

[regal valve]

its good, work for thoran chese, its super good till you can afford AAA

also 5 pull lucretia will work, i have been trying it out in everywhere i could get luc

[high marlin]

Well thoran cheese is better than ainz comp, but they get it

[charred mason]

Pippa choice rolls here i come

[regal valve]

yeah but when there is 3 battle stages you need 3 teams

[proper pagoda]

these are my current teams, i also have grez+alna available, what changes should i make

[regal valve]

you can make 5 pull, listen to scar

[regal valve]

you are better at lategame, i dont even have enough heros for one team to know 2 team stages

[stone coyote]

Any suggestions please?

[high marlin]

Idk if people use classic cycle in pvp anymore

I belive they use Lucretia instead of Saurus there

[crisp bay]

FYI, Mehira is fine at E, you don't need to get her at E+ right now. Later on it is better to have her at least M but you can use her at E for now (I'm on chap 36 and she still do her job)

[charred mason]

Oh cool! How far should i go in terms of equipment? All the way to T3 or lower tiers are just fine?

[regal valve]

is this the thoran chese comp everyone is using

[charred mason]

If it is im closer than I thought lol

[maiden marsh]

Alna grez ath/oden silas fera instead of 5 pull, put luc into cycle instead of saurus and replace tasi with skreg 9F or eluard

[proper pagoda]

small question also, between these 2 would ya go first for 3f cecilia or eluard?

[regal valve]

@charred mason

[maiden marsh]

If you mean on furn wishlist, eluard

[charred mason]

This will help, thanks!

[flint mica]

Suggestions for pvp lineup?

[proud estuary]

Try this, make sure u equip as much dura call as possible , eirron maybe equip a dura eye

if thoran isn’t tanking enough, I’ll use Brutus to delay the aggro due to his invincibility

[burnt lily]

Some help?

[royal stag]

German?

[burnt lily]

Ja warum

[royal stag]

Ist einfacher für mich

[burnt lily]

Ok kannst du mir helfen

[pale kettle]

I'm stuck on this stage. Any idea?

[elfin cloak]

uhh what about
daimon
brutus
mirael
Golus?
Ferael

[pale kettle]

Nope. They just die without Silas

[elfin cloak]

ah

wat about silas instead of ferael idk

[whole bramble]

anyone got an idea?

[regal valve]

this is legit impossible, anyone who can help me without using merc heroes

[outer quiver]

do you have nara?

[regal valve]

yes but she is at e and doesnt do anythign

[whole bramble]

wait who just pinged me and deleted the message :O

[golden perch]

haha that was me, i misread your level on your prev post

[outer quiver]

all she needs to do is pull an annoying enemy for the start of the fight

[whole bramble]

@golden perch ah fair enough I got excited... this level is a pain man

[golden perch]

i thought i had beat it and was posting my lineup, but im one chap behind you 😄

[regal valve]

it aint helping

[whole bramble]

fair enough! I just got through ch23-12 to ch24-10 today so if ur stuck somewhere I might be able to help 😁

[regal valve]

ferael curses right away and i die in seconds

[golden perch]

ooh cool, i just did 23-2 after like 300 retries lol, now im on 23-5

[whole bramble]

although Ive really been carried by 240 Daimon of who I got my 8th copy today so maybe that made it too easy

[regal valve]

i would be legit chapter 22 if i could get trought this stage

the ferael is pain in ass

[golden perch]

I didn't use ainz/albedo for ch 20 but i used a lot of eironn (E+) to pull and kill isabellas/miraels

[regal valve]

my course doesnt do anything for them

[regal valve]

nah he doesnt kill them he gets killed instead

i dont have any other carry except ainz, shem is only other option but she sucks

[keen verge]

anyone has an idea? I managed to kill everyone with this comp but Orthros who outheals my dmg. I already had to use Ainz, Lucretia and Raku comp to get the first three

[silk burrow]

the ones crossed out are cuz either i’m already using them in first team or they’re linked to dims i’m using

[regal valve]

help guys, cant beat this, 300 retries

[silk burrow]

why not switch albedo for lyca?

[regal valve]

i have tried everything, lyca and albedo swap everything

[tight juniper]

Whos killing you more? Shem, Fera, or Isa?

[regal valve]

everyone tbh

grez and fer are main problems, but grez kills my brutus and damages ainz so he dies

and ferael curses

[tight juniper]

Oof, probably cc Fera with nara and replace Nemora or replace Nem for a Ferael (just to stun)

[regal valve]

so ainz
brutus
nara/fer
albedo
lyca

[regal valve]

doesnt work

[trail snow]

Any tipps?

[noble crag]

Any tips?

[dry hollow]

best beginner team to start off with in afk arena?

[maiden marsh]

laid out in the pins of #classic-questions

[gloomy loom]

@maiden marsh not sure if this is the right order? and artifacts

[maiden marsh]

kren call, pippa windbinder, thoran barricade

[gloomy loom]

@maiden marsh is this comp is for Thoran to do his ult thing? he is not surviving unforunately

[maiden marsh]

nah this is for oden and kren to carry, thoran is a tank here

[gloomy loom]

they all dying too quickly then 😅

[maiden marsh]

they're all geared up, yes?

[noble crag]

Pls help

[gloomy loom]

@maiden marsh as good as I can give them 😅 Merlin with all T3, Oden with some T2 and T1 and Kren with few mythics but I can see if he can get better gears from unused heroes

[maiden marsh]

if kren doesn't get dodge gear he definitely won't survive here, perhaps swap merlin in

[maiden marsh]

yeah that's not gonna fly

[gloomy loom]

I guess I'm doomed then 😆

I'm at 599 for 5* call... so maybe I will restart this whole stage I guess? when I have 5*

[maiden marsh]

back to trying thoran cheese, or just make it a full portals comp with oden and pippa

[visual wedge]

Plz help I’m bad 😂😂

[pale kettle]

whats that belindas investment? also might be better if u put belinda in 3, rowan in 4, shemira in 5 and brutus in 2. Can even try swapping out shemira for tasi

[visual wedge]

Thank you

[pale kettle]

it work? Also whats that belindas investmant at bc she looks like a really nice swap scroll candidate

[shut glacier]

@pale kettle YES, I tried both Call and off auto so that Brutus energy is transferred and it seems closer to win but still not make it after about 40+ retries so far. If I use Barricade I turn on auto but call on Brutus I off auto and seems closer to win. Propably waiting for Khazard 30 is better. Too many retries without him. I tried Gwyneth too and she seems to make it if she has Khazard 30 there too (my gwneth is E30)

[humble apex]

I suggest building shem and Lucius more. They’re great early game

[hard forge]

stop making so many L heroes. might as well restart your account

[bitter tide]

Anyone help for the trial ?

[pale kettle]

Nara against Gwyneth, mortas out

[gilded needle]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE HELP AND DONT SAY ITS MESSED UP I KNOW

[pale kettle]

Check pinned message, afk helper.
If that doesn't help be patient and lvl up your heroes. As you know it's messed up getting a strong merc to finish the chapter is kinda necessary
Utilize #classic-questions

[zealous acorn]

is this possible? either seirus or tasi keeps surviving

[pale kettle]

should be doable with some rng if thats the case

[crimson birch]

Bruh

WiFi cuts out

[zealous acorn]

will removing thoran's armor and helmet help?

[pale kettle]

whats his gear at rn?

[ebon bobcat]

ch 11-20

[pale kettle]

oh my stars, take off all his gear, equip T2 5* faction weapon and boots (if u have T3 gear of any other hero it also works), give him T0 helm, and 4* elite chest

[pale kettle]

looks aight, could 4* the chest if u wanted to as well

[zealous acorn]

nice it did the trick. thanks

[ebon bobcat]

pls halppppp 🙏🙏

[pale kettle]

ayy grats!

[wet ivy]

Hello

Just started but not to sure how to do the line up

[ebon bobcat]

Damion that's all

[wet ivy]

Really? Everyone else sucks!? Lol dang it I thought I was doing good!

[ebon bobcat]

and Silas I think

[wet ivy]

Ty

[wet ivy]

Ok how am I looking now

[vestal lotus]

On the dreaded mauler tower 387. Is there any optimization I can make? I understand that Warek has to flip Brutus back into a Kren knock back so Kren stays in a safe place. Warek fails the Brutus flip most of the time, and if Kren gets the knock back he often still dies. When he does get an ult off, enemy Brutus survives slightly too long. Super stuck. 😬

Tried 5* windbinder on Skriath instead of 3* warden too, and that seemed to actually cause a problem somehow, couldn't get Kren to ult. 🤔

[maiden marsh]

Merc the biggest brutus you can find

The 203 is an improvement, ideally 209

[vestal lotus]

Okay, thanks, I'll try that. Best I could find was this 203, and it actually felt worse somehow (over several hundred attempts). Not that that makes any sense.

It's weird, feels like some stat interactions are making Kren behave differently.

[maiden marsh]

At rc400 you could potentially just merc a 309 antandra to solo as well

[vestal lotus]

Interesting, do you know what that line up would look like?

Nm, found a sample on AFK Helper at 394. I can look for her too.

Appreciate the help, will try those changes!

[sacred delta]

Bruh help please, that isabella destroy my whole team with just 1 move

[worldly apex]

you got nara?

[obtuse crow]

Need some help with my lightbringer only account!

[fiery wing]

u have nara?

[rigid imp]

its not that they suck, they just can't compare to daimon without enough investment

[manic goblet]

Can anyone help me witha team for this stage

[fiery wing]

just put daimon and just throw anything else there and still follow the beginners guide

[rigid imp]

place cecilia opposite of isabella, daimon behind brutus, other slot still need enemy position info

[rigid imp]

maybe like this
daimon

brutus
belinda
thoran
cecilia

[manic goblet]

Alright ill give it a shot, thank you

[fallow ruin]

What's a good Mehira team? Will have Gorvo & Morrow at A by the end of the week too

[rigid imp]

from what i see its mehira (with the artifact that give energy at start which i don't know it's name), rowan, rosaline, khazard and idk about last slot

[noble crag]

Help pls

[rigid imp]

lvl your heroes more or put daimon backline, you put him at a place where he got stomp by the centaur dude then all of his energy is gone because of isabella

[noble crag]

Then how can i quickly lvl up them? I mean obtain exp

[rigid imp]

you can use some exp chest, or afk more cuz this game mostly about afk

but imo put your daimon backline will give a good result, or at least at somewhere he can use his ability

[proven magnet]

Been following up and using both Tasi and Silas - still dying. Any help? 🥺

[vagrant ibex]

@proven magnet try it

Mehira with mage artifact so she can use her charm fastly

[proven magnet]

Still not working

[proper pagoda]

is this lucretia cycle correct or do i change sth

[plucky laurel]

Help anyone

[burnt folio]

Im stuck on 17-6 any ideas?

[brave wagon]

Does lucr 3 pull work? Like lucr lyca eironn pop numisu /saf

[plucky laurel]

yea that worked thanks

[high marlin]

What artifact for Talene

[sacred delta]

Whos nara

Oh i dont have her

This is most of my elites rn

[crystal topaz]

can someone help me with a team? iam stuck at 13-39

[warm maple]

Any good people to beat chapter 10?

[fiery wing]

the one you get from the newbie event

[zealous iron]

Daimon and rowan

[warm maple]

Anyone else

[zealous iron]

Brutus is helpful for campaign

[warm maple]

I need 2 more

[devout pier]

stuck on this stage, any suggestions?

[gloomy hearth]

Line up for chapter 6 to 10

[royal stag]

Every stage is different maybe afk.helper can help u

[regal valve]

Welp

Stuck at this stage for 4 days

[young matrix]

What is Ainz, 303?

Never mind, 203?

[regal valve]

Yeah

[young matrix]

Honestly early stage ainz really sucks, he needs his 9f to become a solid carry

[regal valve]

Umm he is my only carry sooo

Problem is rn he cant get his 2nd ult off to finish shemira and ferael

Its causing my mental health to drop

[whole bramble]

Daimon just gets ccd and cant do anything here, any tips?

[pale kettle]

eluard cycle seems kinda unpog at that low investment eluard

[coral pasture]

So I’m on stage 34-12 and I need a 3rd team that doesn’t involve a whale line up and I already have ainz comp and lucrieta cheese

[brave oriole]

@whole bramble yeah, it's bad, there's fawkes and tasi. Try to make a team without ainz, maybe add lyca

[whole bramble]

@brave oriole yeah Ainz wasnt there in most of my attempts to be fair, mainly tried lyca for him

[brave oriole]

Try Brutus front rowan back and daimon middle, the other slots may be kren lyca back I guess

So Brutus kren, rowan daimon lyca

[whole bramble]

not sure if Kren adds anything to be fair

[brave oriole]

If he dies fast, yeah. U can try grace or so on him. Or find something that tank longer, maybe talene?

Try zol

[whole bramble]

dont have Talene, Thoran works for me getting of a Rowan and Daimon ult but Daimon just cant ult a second time

[brave oriole]

Will give you some def too

[pale kettle]

any idea?

[whole bramble]

@brave oriole same thing keeps happening, Daimon is last man standing and then just gets stunned to death not allowing him to ult even tho hes full energy

[brave oriole]

Mhm, try lyca front then, and back have an elite safiya?

The top side it's fine, just bottom one need fixed, lyca and something

[whole bramble]

not a single Safiya copy I think, shes mauler right?

[brave oriole]

Yeah, Btw, have you tried alna front of lyca? Maybe she can stay alive a bit

[whole bramble]

got it! not sure what made it worked this time but it did, thanks a lot!!

[brave oriole]

Np👍

@pale kettle I'm not very sure how will work, but try a few times, Brutus rowan, ferael lyca daimon. Put chalice on rowan

If silv kills rowan too fast, u may need rosaline also

[pale kettle]

rowan or rosaline are getting 1 hit

my thoran and daimon cannot ult bcs of ezizh and if thoran doesn´t ult my daimon wont live long

[regal valve]

anyone know how to win this

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle u can try nara vs ezizh, but I dunno how good it will be

Skreg with call can maybe cc ezizh too

[pale kettle]

not working at all

[pale kettle]

220 thoran probably doesn't help much
If you raise rowan/rosa to 200 you can raise Daimon 240

Daimon 240 priority, other 4 heroes 200
= efficient

i think i have not enough HE

lemme test it

looks like i need some HE

[fathom widget]

any ideas how to deal with that golem?

[pale kettle]

use wu kong instead of golus

[proper pagoda]

whats optimal investment and what better can i do without skreg 9?

[pale kettle]

optimal eluard is 309 iirc, could run alna luc cycle as well if u have that option avaliable

[proper pagoda]

im running grez and alna so i cant:/

[merry dune]

Good team for early game?

[pale kettle]

hmm, can u run normal GBs?

[proper pagoda]

if alna luc cycle + gbs is better than alna grez + luc cycle then yea

[pale kettle]

it should be depending on ur GBs

[past bloom]

https://i.imgur.com/4iisy90.png

helpo please why is it not working?

[pale kettle]

try unselecting a unit and reselecting them

[past bloom]

no i mean

im not winning the battle but i think ive better team than the afk helper team im copying Kappa

[regal valve]

help with this, cant do it

[wet ivy]

Question, so if I’m running from the beginners guide… should I be using the fodders or just use them to keep the level cap high and use other characters? Just asking because im not to sure who I would use if im not using the fodders even tho im pretty sure I have better characters then them.

[rigid imp]

how long can albedo survive ? can she survive until ainz use his ult first time?

[regal valve]

yeah and dies after that

like he gets 70% for second ult and she dies and bish bash boosh ainz dead before 2nd ult

[rigid imp]

if so use rowan instead of lyca (if you have him) and put him in the middle, his pot will help her survive a bit longer

[regal valve]

yeah tried that

[rigid imp]

how was it, can ainz use his ult twice ?

[regal valve]

my logic is using rowan to get 2nd ult quicker but my tanks die till then

[regal valve]

almost can use it but he gets hit once and it goes back to like 80%

[rigid imp]

well i can't suggest other option, maybe get 1 more dim heroes for extra defense from albedo sign then

[regal valve]

she isnt +30 dud

and i dont have 3rd dim so idk

best i got is grez, isabella and niru dead but ferael and shemira survive, thats why i need 2nd ult

[brave oriole]

@regal valve looks good just some small adjustments. Brutus front of ainz, and lyca front of albedo

And also, I would leave Lucius 180,and push ainz link to 220.but tbh it will be better for a while with shem Lucius

[rigid imp]

well other heroes he have capped at 160 so he can't make ainz 220

[pale kettle]

What am I supposed to do here? Estrilda kills half of my team with her charge

[regal valve]

ainz is 200, i dont have shem for 220, it needs 30k dust and i am dust capped rn, shem and lucious dont help anything

isabella is pain in the ass, her ults kill everything, ferael ghosts everyone and grez kills brutus

[dapper jay]

Anyone feeling like taking a look at my setup and give me some suggestions? ( I am new and know nothing)

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions

[brave oriole]

@regal valve I mean, if you reset something back to 180, you may have maybe for 220 on ainz link

[regal valve]

umm idk if i can reset my lucious to have for 220 ainz link

[dapper jay]

How do I see pins?

[brave oriole]

Have you tried shemira? I mean we all played with shem back then, and she was great

[dapper jay]

Nvm

[regal valve]

nah, shemira dies too fast, not even ulting and even if she ults i still lose

[brave oriole]

Eh, you need rowan rosaline also

[regal valve]

no, like she barely ults, her survivability is so trash

[brave oriole]

Eh, I know how shem is, just you need some training with

[regal valve]

no, shem sucks now, if there wasnt ainz i would be c17 now

[brave oriole]

There's no reason for shem to suck, other than having daimon. We all used shem until cha 26,and u are at a very low deficit

[regal valve]

idk who tf even made this stage, who decided to buff isabella to the stars

[brave oriole]

Brutus should be always top when Isa enemy

[regal valve]

if you could view my replay you would see what i mean

brutus dies quickly tho, he doesnt even survive till isabella ults

even when i kill isabella ferael kills me with his annoying ghosts

and you cant charm him becouse he instant shoots the ghosts

[brave oriole]

So, my old team used to be shem Lucius, rowan rosa + add. Sometimes fawkes, sometimes lyca or arden, by situation. With current stage I would use something like, lyca Rosa front, Backline, Lucius with dura's call, rowan with chalice, shemira with grace

[regal valve]

i dont have rosaline

my rng is worst it can get

[brave oriole]

Not even one elite? This its why ppls have difficulties, they are jumping on meta heroes too fast, but they suck early

[regal valve]

no, not even elite

[brave oriole]

Rowan rosaline are both great

[regal valve]

never got a single copy of her, have elite rowan but cant get his copys, i got ton of grez copys

my m+ grez cant survive shit either

[brave oriole]

So, u have posted a ss earlier, is nemora charming ferael on it?

[regal valve]

Make me a lineup that you think can work

[regal valve]

didnt work out, nemora charms too late, ghosts fire right away, killing my tanks and damaging ainz, nemora so nemora cant even ult off

[brave oriole]

So you have to get more haste for nemora, better shoes, and maybe dura's call for

And she will charm before of the Fera ghosts

[regal valve]

i put on her mythic 3 star boots and duras call

problem is fera ghosts are instant

[brave oriole]

Swap albedo Brutus, and ainz lyca

[regal valve]

how exactly

[brave oriole]

Exactly, Brutus albedo front, lyca nemora ainz back

[regal valve]

okay

i can lvl 220 my ainz if needed, like my lucious can go to lvl 180

[brave oriole]

Yeah, would help more

[regal valve]

i will do that

albedo cant tank now for some reason

[brave oriole]

Try grez, but is albedo bottom?

[regal valve]

yes she is

grez is worst tank ever tho

[brave oriole]

OK, put grez instead, and replace nemora with rowan and see how's going

He's giving some magical def

[regal valve]

still, very close

if my ainz would use his ult 2 times it would be helpful

[rigid imp]

yeah, that's why rowan pot is super good

[brave oriole]

Aha. Now try, top, lyca front and Lucius back, but dura's call on Lucius

So no Brutus this time

[regal valve]

okay will try

[brave oriole]

I'm curious if Lucius ult

[regal valve]

one of my calls is on ainz tho

[brave oriole]

Mhm, I havent used a lot ainz on early, only in one low alt, but ive used eye

For some pr and crit

[regal valve]

not even close to lucious ult

he gets killed preety early on

i put the best gear on him too

[brave oriole]

Yeah, I guess it's bcs lyca enter late in the battlefield

[regal valve]

i would use my merc lucretia but she is on cooldown for 5 days so i am trying to find a way

[brave oriole]

It's fine. Leave Brutus there as before and try tasi instead of lyca a sec

[regal valve]

umm i dont have tasi either

i have eirron and pippa from wilders that i got pretty much all the time

[brave oriole]

OK, swap rowan ainz

[regal valve]

i didnt even have her on wishlist till c15

[brave oriole]

So rowan bottom, and ainz middle

[regal valve]

and brutus front ?

[brave oriole]

Yeah with lyca back

[regal valve]

almost there, its like just for 2nd ult of ainz to finish off the ferael and shem

i did it thanks bro

[brave oriole]

Nice. Np👍

[regal valve]

it was just second ult that was the problem, lyca managed to hold off shem and brutus hit her once so ainz 1 tapped her and healed back

[brave oriole]

You need badly albedo si +20,then +30

There's from ainz strength

[regal valve]

yeah i am almost there

i need 1 more silver emblem and 20 gold ones

[brave oriole]

And buy Arthur shards, priority

[regal valve]

yeah i messed up earlier and i am saving up for them now

[brave oriole]

Joining an active guild would help too, if you don't have one already

More soren per week, so you can get a little faster gear from the guild shop

[dull flame]

A guild is only useful if you play competitively most of the time.

[brave oriole]

I haven't said good, active

[dull flame]

Active usually good

[regal valve]

yeah everyone is preety active, they are good to so i get juice

[brave oriole]

Are you talking about ae? @dull flame

[regal valve]

lmao i am easily pushing trought rest of c20

[brave oriole]

Rowan is big

U can kill mostly in one ult all

[regal valve]

yeah only tanks survive

[dapper jay]

Can anyone recommend a setup to use from these heroes?

[brave oriole]

@dapper jay for now, just leave all behind, and lvl wukong until 100. A team, would be wukong and Lucius front, Backline lyca rowan + what ever works better

[dapper jay]

Okay thanks!

[dapper jay]

This is what I came up with

[brave oriole]

It will work for a while 👍

[dapper jay]

Thank you very much

[brave oriole]

Np

[regal valve]

Its me back stuck again xD this time its more severe

nvm i just changed the gear and it worked

[brave oriole]

[regal valve]

lets go c23

[brave oriole]

Yeah, I can see 😂

[regal valve]

with 180 Rc

[brave oriole]

Try to get a better rowan

[regal valve]

Stuck now fr

[brave oriole]

Move Brutus down

[regal valve]

gets my grez killed faster

[brave oriole]

Sacrifice rowan, put him front of grez and see if works better

[split prairie]

So, im clearing everyone but Thoran, any suggestions or just rng it out

[cinder oar]

I’ve tried about 50 times and my lucretia can’t kill lucius for whatever reason. She never dies but she doesn’t do enough damage

[brave oriole]

@split prairie I dunno, u may need rowan instead of tidus? But middle placed

@cinder oar use one more hypo if have for some crit extra

[regal valve]

didnt work

just dm me, i need to much help xD

[split prairie]

@brave oriole haven't pulled him on the acc yet, dunno if I could clear the rest w/o jolly roger boost, ill change up tidus and see what I get. Morrow might be able to snag it for me

[brave oriole]

What artifact do you use on luc?

If dont have any more hypo, then try to get a factional buff

[regal valve]

luc needs that artifact idk its name

[viscid canyon]

Any ideas?

[regal valve]

it makes her so much better

[brave oriole]

@regal valve well, if you have any nara, use her to pull Belinda, just to test

[regal valve]

swap thoran and brutus

[split prairie]

@regal valve im not using luc

[regal valve]

wrong guy sorry

[viscid canyon]

Doesn’t work🥲

[brave oriole]

@split prairie daimon gets the best help from rowan

[regal valve]

what do you have on your rowan, is it call

[split prairie]

@brave oriole don't have rowan on the acc

[brave oriole]

Nvm if elite tbh

Then use lyca for haste

[viscid canyon]

I have call on my daimon

[split prairie]

@viscid canyon put lyca instead of fereal, and who is silvinia stunning?

[brave oriole]

Rowan ofc

[viscid canyon]

Lemme check one sec

[brave oriole]

U may try one more mage, maybe rosaline or something else, so rowan don't get hits from silv

[viscid canyon]

Rowan gets hit with silvina.

[brave oriole]

Try rosaline back of Brutus or mehira if you have

[cinder oar]

My luc feels weak 😦

[brave oriole]

Mhm, sometimes may be weak vs some enemies

[cinder oar]

Like brutus

[brave oriole]

I use grace when Brutus

[maiden marsh]

Her dodge gear could use some work

[cinder oar]

Is that boots?

[viscid canyon]

Don’t have either never pulled them

[brave oriole]

Then any lvl 1 mage, just to test out @viscid canyon

Isabela for faction buff

Oden etc

[split prairie]

got it

[viscid canyon]

Once oden dies from silvina she targets Rowan lol I’ve tried that

[brave oriole]

Swap rowan oden then @viscid canyon

[viscid canyon]

Nope that silvina and Isabella just destroy me

[fleet thistle]

how

[maiden marsh]

Boots and weapon

[brittle zephyr]

Hi, someone can help me ?

[split prairie]

24-60 clear

[midnight bronze]

+30 daimon

[split prairie]

yup

[elfin cloak]

hlep plssss

[shadow onyx]

Reckon this will work?Been trying for like 20 minutes but no luck so far,got it down to tasi couple of times tho

[regal valve]

Is this possible with current team, isabella kills everyone

[pale kettle]

any ideas?

[tight juniper]

Brutus, Lyca, Daimon, Rowan, and Ferael probably. Lyca is used for haste and you don't want Daimon to get run over by Estrilda

[pale kettle]

my daimon ults once like that and dies after that

my rowan wont ult anyway

[shy onyx]

I will put Daimon in the upper side, cuz you want to kill Seirus before he charges his ult

Also I would try adding Rosaline/Rowan to boost Daimon ult faster

[pale kettle]

i tried it rowan and rosaline cannot ult they insta die .if mirael ults my whole team gets 1 hit i think i have to hook her so she cannot ult no?

[shy onyx]

Rosaline/Rowan
-----Daimon
Nara/Eironn
-----Thoran/Brutus
Ferael

[dull flame]

Daimon frontline.....
Should be more of this:
Daimon
Thoran
Rowan
Lyca
Fereal

[shy onyx]

I used Daimon in front and Eironn in middle, works pretty good ig

[dull flame]

Daimon behind Brutus, thoran frontlinr

[dull flame]

Not at higher deficits/chapters. Frontline are prone to burst and cc

[shy onyx]

Hum, I see

[dull flame]

Ye, Frontline can work sometimes but not always

[floral gate]

Any way at all I can complete stage 12 with this line-up? Would like to pull daimon from c12 chest so i can het him to mythic

[dull flame]

bruh show us the stage, there are more than 2 thousand stages, we can't remember them

[floral gate]

My apologies, here are the remaining boss levels

[dull flame]

can't you click into the battle and send a screenshot like that?

[floral gate]

This is the current stage

[dull flame]

daimon
thoran
mereal
lyca
lucius

[floral gate]

Kinda getting destroyed lel, guess i'll just have to be patient with levels

[dull flame]

can you send a video?

[floral gate]

Not really, don't have anything setup for that. Thanks for the attempt tho

[dull flame]

np

[elfin cloak]

someone ples hlep

nara gets destroyed instantly and ainz can only do about half of the enemies health

also daimon only gets to ult once best case scenario

[vivid scaffold]

Hum

Try Daimon frontline left, Brutus right. Lyca goes in the back. Not sure about Nara here, perhaps Fera if he survives?

[pale kettle]

Didnt work

[dull flame]

daimon
brutus
silas
thoran
lyca

[pale kettle]

Nope

[crimson birch]

Bruh

[dull flame]

try again then

[pale kettle]

Damion keeps getting hit with the fear thingy, and I've tried multiple times..

[dull flame]

multiple isn't good enough, don't do anything till you hit a couple dozen retries

[pale kettle]

😐

[pale kettle]

Still hasn't worked

[fiery wing]

need help y'all

[gaunt dragon]

Any help?

[pale kettle]

try brutus thoran, grez rowan daimon

[noble crag]

Any tips?

[sick granite]

what would be the best lineup for guild hunt?

[cursive cloak]

What is the best wrizz and Soren team rn?

[west fog]

@slim dagger mehira + raku/daimon on wave 1

nothing was done on manual (all auto)

[slim dagger]

@west fog ty I'll try these

[west fog]

don't think u need lucretia e60 for wave 3. that was lucretia cheese with 4 hypos lol

[pale kettle]

drop thoran for fera and maybe even silas for arden

[pale kettle]

Failed

what happened?

[pale kettle]

that looked close?

[pale kettle]

Damion gets hit with the fear skill from feral and naw

[pale kettle]

swap daimon and fera

[zealous acorn]

anyone got a comp for this? i tried copying the lowest power comps but the wave 4 had a lucretia

[pale kettle]

maybe traditional 5p or some PP comp will work or maybe even portal pull

[zealous acorn]

what does portal pull look like

tried 5 pull everyone just dies instantly lmao

[pale kettle]

eirron frontline, pippa oden backline gorvo lyca and maybe another hero im forgetting

[rigid imp]

my comp doesn't work ?

[zealous acorn]

artifacts?

[pale kettle]

gonna keep it a buck 50 with you, i forget. Been a while since i saw that . Im gonna assume standard artis

[zealous acorn]

ayt

maybe i should just wait a week so i can borrow lucretia

[maiden marsh]

oden windbinder, pippa warden/windbinder, eironn shroud/call, rest whatever they need

[fiery wing]

it works but what did u used here?

[rigid imp]

that same formation but daimon at bottom slot

[fiery wing]

tf ezizh and the mechanic guy is annoying

[rigid imp]

might try rowan too

[fiery wing]

exchange with whom

[halcyon jolt]

If I link a pic of my people can someone help me pick out a good campaign lineup I'm still super early I just don't want to invest in to stuff I wont need around lvl 80 90 heros

[rigid imp]

rowan instead of eironn

but i don't think eironn wont work, you just need a bit rng

[fiery wing]

the rowan worked

[rigid imp]

oof

[fiery wing]

darn estrilda stage

[split prairie]

any suggestions

[pale kettle]

can probably drop raku for eirron since hes not 30, drop pippa for gorvo or lorsen

[sacred delta]

idk what event that is

[signal canopy]

As a general tip Pippa really needs her 20. Most the stages will be her dropping Erionn/Saurus onto enemies and them getting the benefits from the immunity

[pale kettle]

^

[split prairie]

@signal canopy pippa is a brand new ascension for me, but yeah will be doing so soon. Who would you suggest I merc to run the stage

[signal canopy]

Pippa then

[meager sail]

Any fun arena teams that unorthodox but can somewhat be viable? Strictly arena and not LCT

[high marlin]

Skreg cycle

[vagrant ibex]

Mostly ppl used ainz as team set up so id use athalia lucre for the fun

[fiery wing]

go to events and newbie

[elfin cloak]

hlep how counter friggin charging dwarf

nvm I got it just had to stick Brutus in front of it

[sacred delta]

This one?

[fiery wing]

yes

[sacred delta]

And what do i do

[fiery wing]

claim the chest and get the nara

[sacred delta]

What chest??

Ohhh that chest, bruh i picked the scrolls cuz idk what to pick

Thats all the elites i have, should i replace my lucious with a ezizh

[terse lintel]

@split prairie that's what I used if you're still stuck

[pale kettle]

Seriously, is there any strategy to use against Estrilda? Every single Estrilda stage is an absolute pain for me.

[terse lintel]

@pale kettle maybe +20 daimon, ainz won't help much until ascended where daimon will take you further at mythic than mythic ainz

Otherwise Eironn can pull her away, nara can grab her

[pale kettle]

Damn, I've just upgraded Ainz SI to +10

[terse lintel]

@pale kettle ainz doesn't shine as carry til +30, and his furniture is a plus, daimon just needs +20 and no more than 3/9 furn where ainz needs 9/9

[pale kettle]

@terse lintel Alright, thanks! I'll start focusing on Daimon from now

[terse lintel]

@pale kettle also would make sure your wishlist is up to date if you plan to rely in Ainz as future carry since you'll need other heros like rowan and ferael

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle just use daimon overlvled

[pale kettle]

@terse lintel I'm using Ainz mostly because he's really fun, I just love that big nuke
But if Daimon works better/is cheaper then I'll use him

[terse lintel]

@pale kettle daimon is but eventually you will hit multi stage battles, but that is a ways away for you but having some heros built in prep doesn't hurt when they can help daimon too

[pale kettle]

I made Daimon my highest lv hero, and yeah, he cleared that stage easily. I don't even need Ainz in the same team

[whole bramble]

what should i pick?

[brave wagon]

Usable? Yes. Optimal? Probably not.

I'd use fera or lyca or Rosa instead of shem for example

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle u need rowan there, and maybe rosaline, if you want to play mirael carry

[brave oriole]

For me it's Poe mostly

[drifting bolt]

Hey guys, I'm currently in chapter 34 and sometimes have problems with advancing the 3x team battles this is my current roster and I was wondering if you guys have recommend teams from my pool or who i should build next to make a great team. thanks! https://i.vgy.me/2uoM6X.png https://i.vgy.me/ns52pQ.png

[brave oriole]

@drifting bolt one team ainz, but you don't rlly need merlin in it, one team Brutus and something else front, lyca ferael raku, and the last team, can be daimon, or just luc cheese

Get raku +30 it worth 👍

U can use eironn 5x pull for the last fight with daimon.

[drifting bolt]

ye ainz is ofc always the first team and raku im working on right now but no chests left. i tried those combos but the 2. almost insta dies 3. is manageable because lucretia can carry hard. https://i.vgy.me/D209tw.png

[brave oriole]

@drifting bolt u don't have to use always the same teams, sometimes just switch 1 with 2 and so on. Thoran it's not a good idea maybe, ezio is geared? Also, what artifacts are you using on this team?

[drifting bolt]

https://i.vgy.me/aB3KZZ.png

ye i try switching around but team dies everywhere haha

[brave oriole]

Use shroud in lyca Fera, and maybe eye on raku. Ofc, eye 5its much better, I dunno how 4works , never used.

And on Brutus use barricade always

[drifting bolt]

aight ill try around a few with your help, thanks mate

[brave oriole]

Np

[sudden pine]

Ferael is not letting me play, any advice ?

[terse lintel]

@sudden pine I would put eironn in mid back and swap out thoran and gwyn for lyca and tasi (if you got her) if not then brutus

Also getting Daimon to +20 is a must

[whole bramble]

how do I deal with this?

[elfin trench]

Any ideas on what team I should build?

[noble crag]

Any tips?

[slim portal]

Your being way too defensive, try ainz and daimon together

[whole bramble]

@slim portal they get nuked bro

[slim portal]

Idk, it works fine with me. Especially with SI30 rowan. You can reference to here too
https://afkhelper.nax.is/kings_tower.php?floor=295

[whole bramble]

hmm okay Ill give it a shot thanks

[umbral whale]

is this possible with my team power or I am too weak?

[warm sierra]

Depends if daimon has his SI leveled it might be possible with good rng and maybe using more cc instead of faerel

[fiery wing]

need help y'all thanks

tasi and the heals are so annoying

[fiery wing]

show box

[umbral whale]

daimon is +16 now, nowhere near to +20

[fiery wing]

you can buy emblems at store

[warm sierra]

Could try hiding diamon behind brutas to give him a few more seconds to kill stuff so he can solo or put someone like Arden in behind him to try snare something for a few seconds

[umbral whale]

https://imgur.com/BJWBwwQ
https://imgur.com/bKF23hE
And there's a rosaline, mehira, eironn in the very last row of elites

[umbral whale]

I'll try that, also I am gonna have enough dust to upgrade all 4 fodders to 141 soon. So the extra 3s on brutus might help

[warm sierra]

Yea it will help abit more time for carry to do it’s thing

[fiery wing]

try

fereal

thoran
eirron
brutus
daimon

[warm sierra]

But it’s possible I cleared with similar power

[fiery wing]

theres no such thing as power gap or power diff

[pale kettle]

This stage is just...disgusting. Is there any way?

[rigid imp]

merc a 309 ainz and do like me, its nearly impossible with current setup

my friend pass it with 103 brutus and +30 daimon but its too expensive so merc'ed ainz is the best way to go

[fiery wing]

that stage is a horror you'll face that exact enemies 5x

[pale kettle]

[rigid imp]

all estrilda stage is disgusting, especially with ferael
but in this case get your brutus in and put daimon behind him (not on estrilda charge path)

[fiery wing]

fereal

brutus
daimon
thoran
nara

and keep retrying

[pale kettle]

Alright, thanks guys! Time to use bluestacks

[umbral whale]

estrilda still haunts me in chpt 18

[fiery wing]

when you're facing estrilda + fereal ur fcked

[whole bramble]

how do I deal with Athalia's ult?

[rigid imp]

do this
silas

daimon
nara
thoran/brutus
brutus/thoran
retry until silas inject on daimon, both daimon and silas use call, other can use anything

[whole bramble]

did immune daimon and still got messed up by Athalia lol

[rigid imp]

then you should retry a few time, that line up is the best line up i have for that stage cuz it doesn't need too much rng

[whole bramble]

yeah Im trying it untill I succeed as it gets me the closest to winning from everything I tried

just had Silas immune Nara lol

[sleek hill]

Which formation should I use for Wrizz?

[warm maple]

I used Diamond and Rosaline paired with Sherman and they all did like 1mill damage but my heros are low level

[fiery wing]

help

[fiery wing]

raine/mortas

saurus
warek/rowan
rosaline
twins

[sleek hill]

Tks, I just did 2,3 Million dmg

[fiery wing]

wuuut 2m only? but ur rc is 321

[sleek hill]

I don’t have rosaline, so I just used Raine, mortars, Rowan, saurus and twins

[cerulean moss]

Do you merc a saurus SI30 ?

[fiery wing]

even so that comp can even reach 100m+

[sleek hill]

I have no idea how this game works

[sleek hill]

His signature item is 25

[cerulean moss]

Investment required is SI30 on him, and even without i think you should deal more dmg, I deal more with the same comp, but lvl 200

Don't you forget to auto battle?

[fiery wing]

thats ok if u want to learn more you can just ask here or watch FHG/Soviet Gaming/Volkin's yt videos

[sudden pine]

Should I sacrifice Shemira to promote someone ?

[rigid imp]

surely no in this case

[sudden pine]

I'm stuck with all of this and no fodder :(

[cerulean moss]

I know a friend does that to ascend daimon, as shemira is not used at all (if we don't count THE one boss in TR she's used in) but dunno if it's a good plan

[rigid imp]

i don't think that's a big problem, too hasty in these thing will give you a pain later

[fiery wing]

yes but not now

[rigid imp]

if you have 2 daimon elite+ already then i think you can do that, but do it now give no value at all cuz your daimon can't reach A

[fiery wing]

its not worth for the sake that you want to reach Fereal to M but dont have L+ fods

[sudden pine]

Ok thanks !

[dapper jay]

Can’t progress anymore. Any suggestions?

[warm sierra]

My account is 4days old and I did 39mil, something very wrong haha

[rigid imp]

lvl other heroes to 100/120 first then you can ask for line up later here

[sleek hill]

How is that possible? Are we even playing the same game? Or I read the damage wrong

[warm sierra]

Mk rowan tasi luc and Lyca should be fine until you get a carry, but honestly if you do t pull a few copies on a carry early on I’d just make a new account on different server haha

[warm sierra]

Honestly think you read it wrong because with acendant units SI furnished etc you prob did closer to 2bil not 2mil lol

I don’t have any units buffing dmg like twins or raine basicly just the green lizard man punching the boss lol

[sleek hill]

Yeah it’s 2 Billion lmao

[warm sierra]

Yep lol

[sleek hill]

No idea how I read it wrong

[sudden pine]

Is Lucretia the best choice for stargazing ?

[warm sierra]

Not on fresh accounts

[pale kettle]

Rosa instaed of Rowan

[warm sierra]

Think he said he didn’t have rosa

[pale kettle]

Not even1?

[sudden pine]

I have 30 tickets to use, should I use them to ascend my first character ?

[sleek hill]

Is she that important? Even if just Elite rank? I will try to get her then

[pale kettle]

No and go to #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

She's very good yes

[dapper jay]

I’m told i have shit. Can’t level more cause i can’t progress and they can’t get past 100

[rigid imp]

then just afk a bit, this is an afk game so no need to hurry at all

[slim portal]

https://afk.guide/redemption-codes/
Redeem all codes, pull more

[warm sierra]

You have no carry which sucks and leveling requires you to afk to get blue juice, or use juice boxes

[slim portal]

Current event exchange all in fodder

[dapper jay]

I have, alle The available codes

[dapper jay]

But they can’t get past 100 because I can’t ascend them

[slim portal]

Exchange all this for 81 fodders

Don’t simple ascend anyone, only fodder hero