lineup-help

[tight juniper]

Lucretia can do lots of damage even when she's not built

[topaz mesa]

Wow! Sweet! Thanks

[dull flame]

rowan can be replaced by raine if she hits 3/9 furn

[topaz mesa]

Good to know. For now she's only at 1/9. 🙂

[faint falcon]

stuck at hard labyrinth boss, any tips? eironn pulls me in and it's all downhill from there

[dull flame]

oden
lyca
thoran
rowan
daimon

[fiery wing]

merc ainz and ez win

[faint falcon]

lol I ended up doing
lyca
daimon
mirael
thoran
rosaline

nvm not rosaline, rowan

[dull flame]

alna grez is better for leaving on auto

[old zinc]

Stuck here for a bit. Help is appreciated. Thanks in advance!

[pale kettle]

Daimon/tasi
Thoran
Mirael
brutus
Arden
@old zinc

[old zinc]

Got a bit closer, but can't kill the vamp who turns into bats quick enough. That seems to be the problem anyways.

[sand crow]

Tips for double flora teams on 36-48?

[winter oracle]

currently at 9-1, who should i be using as my team? stuck and not sure if i should ascend and use mirael over daimon as my dps

[maiden marsh]

Alna GB, thoran cheese, raku daimon, or even stuff like ainz or luc if you're overleveled enough.

[pale kettle]

@old zinc
Shemira
Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Rosa follow shemira /arden
With some tries maybe

[royal needle]

Any recommendations? I just need to hit 130m dmg for that one quest. I thought i knew how to hit it but i ended up short 120m dmg

[zealous iron]

What have you upgraded

Celerity?

[royal needle]

The blessed relics?
Everything is lv5

[zealous iron]

Oh. Have you tried Shemira Grez Saurus Rowan and maybe Oden/Izold for fac bonus

[royal needle]

I have not. Currently low food which is why im asking. Cant exactly try out much

[zealous iron]

Try something like that. Shemira, Saurus, and Grez all work well on the boss

[vagrant ibex]

Grezhul/izold shemira
Solise rowan oden
Put soul on grez/izold

[maiden vapor]

u got luc e+?

[vagrant ibex]

@sand crow the other one iused ainz

[signal canopy]

I've seen a replay with e+ Isabella who did 500m

[vagrant ibex]

On that set up The key is mehira

[royal needle]

Sadly no

[signal canopy]

Anyone got any more ideas? Hardest nonboss stage in awhile. Most clears were basically this but my Grez dies instantly everytime. No Alna unless I merc.

[fading briar]

Any1 help me with this stage pls

[hot echo]

should should i put to kill 2 backplane enemy first?

[cinder oar]

Any tips?

[fading briar]

keep trying

[fiery wing]

rng and pray

[slim portal]

How do you have an ascended Lucretia at chap 24?

[tight juniper]

Probably spend lots of money

[cinder oar]

Luck lol

[vagrant ibex]

Yes you can all you need is too spent all dias on stargaze

My alt do dat things

[cinder oar]

See

[vagrant ibex]

@cinder oar try
lyca lorsan/rowan
Lucre eiron nara

Now you need to stargazeing alna just like me 😎

[fiery wing]

its normal to have ascended celepog at 23-24 u just have to spend all diamonds from gazing and some luck + events too

[umbral whale]

need help with this stage pls, I also have a tasi in the rc

[brisk topaz]

I need help with my account, see it was on my old phone and I did not link it, is there any way I can get it back

?

[zinc maple]

i dont think so

[brisk topaz]

I have my email and password for it

[zinc maple]

wait did you add it to an account?

[brisk topaz]

I tried logging in to all the options in the link thing but they all failed

[zinc maple]

nah you need to choose switch instead of link

[brisk topaz]

Ok

Non of them worked 😔

How do I enter suggestions

[weak ravine]

I need help beating this stage, obviously the arrow girl is replaced with someone else but they all get destroyed no matter what.

[fiery wing]

do u still have the chest in the newbie event? like with lucius nara and scrolls?

need help y'all thanks

[weak ravine]

Uhh I don’t think so

I started the game last week so I’m kinda winging it as I go

[opaque drift]

what should i try?

[signal canopy]

In game support might be able to help you

[brisk topaz]

Thanks

[slim portal]

You can try ainz and have Nara disturb the coffin man

Should be doable if your front line doesn’t dead in 1 second

[opaque drift]

my ainz doesn’t have good armour but i’ll try

[slim portal]

Shemira burst damage is bad

She can’t kill the healer alone

[opaque drift]

didn’t work :(

[slim portal]

How much ainz dealing?

How many ultimate he casted?

[opaque drift]

he usually casts one before dying

and then dies after ult or doesn’t get the ult in

[slim portal]

You front line is too weak

[opaque drift]

so very low damage or 2/3 mill

[slim portal]

What was your formation?

[opaque drift]

i’m switching around but ive tried thoran , brutus , sherima and rowan in front

[slim portal]

Rowan front line when has T2 boots and weapon

[opaque drift]

i barely have T1 gear D:

[slim portal]

To be honest, I just blast through this level with daimon

[opaque drift]

yea but on this account i’ve got so unlucky with her :(

[slim portal]

SI20

[opaque drift]

so nothing i can do ? :(

[slim portal]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=22&stage=12

I don’t have experience with shemira, people dropped her quickly

You can make ainz your carry, rather than shemira

Reset her level and gives ainz 220

[opaque drift]

okay i can try that

[slim portal]

Try to check those list first, I saw one with ainz 220

[opaque drift]

thanks tho , appreciated

[west skiff]

HELP.from test

[slim portal]

Front line with those who doesn’t dead in 2 seconds
Kick that shemira away
Nara hook that pink hair girl
Daimon should be able to solo, especially if you’re a SI20

Also, you needs rowan

[opaque drift]

got enough essence to put sherima to 240 and now my ains also 240 now im progressing

thank you very much :D

[strange ridge]

Anyone got any lineup suggestions for me? I’m getting stuck on 35 because of the 4 team requirements

[slim portal]

I’m far from chap 35, but you can check the afkhelper for those similar team formation
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php

[strange ridge]

Awesome, thanks~

[west skiff]

almost end but...

[slim portal]

This level is tough af

Full team counter graveborn

I did it by raising thoran to 170 mystic

And rowan 180 SI10 with full mythic

[amber halo]

At his rc level it should be pretty ez

[slim portal]

Faction bonus + 30% advantage against GB

His RC level is 160 only

Maybe I’m just bad, but i did it with RC 170

[amber halo]

LV 200 daimon even +30 should be doable still

[rigid imp]

with RC 160 i did it to 23

[clear spruce]

Who should I use?

[fiery wing]

y'all need help

[prime garden]

put Ainz instead of Daimon and try

[fiery wing]

i dont have his gear invested yet

[vagrant ibex]

Thoran lyca
Daimon rowan fera with shroud art
Or
Rowan brutus
Daimon fera lyca

[slender elbow]

Any idea how I can win this? Tried so many lineups without success. If not possible: What do I need to push (Si, furn, other heroes, …) to make it happen?
Fyi, I already checked afkhelper

[real flicker]

Hello any ideas?

[formal reef]

can i change anything to fix this

[humble zodiac]

grezhul waistband, izold chaos, ferael shroud, nara carnage, silas call. also your silas isnt +30 3/9

[slim portal]

Collect all the redemption code
https://afk.guide/redemption-codes/
Level Wukong until 100, he will be good enough to carry you for awhile
Read the pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions channel

[elfin cloak]

am stuck ples help

nvm I beat it

[opaque drift]

please help D:

[simple quartz]

Who should i use my swap scroll on, any inputs are welcome

[noble crag]

Help pls

[zealous harness]

None. If at all, the scroll should be used on a 30 sig 9 furn hero that is outdated and not usable anymore

[vagrant basin]

someone help ... stuck for long time..

[zealous harness]

Still taking helpful advices. This lineup got me the furthest, however I‘m always dying to Tasi. She oneshots Raku when teleporting on his head. As you can see, I’m not even doing enough damage to her compared to the other enemies because she keeps jumping around like crazy

[pale kettle]

Can someone make me a good team?

[zealous harness]

First, go into #classic-questions and read the pins there. Second, decide which five heroes you want to level (again, read the pinned beginner guide) and reset the other five. You invested in 10 heroes total. This channel is mainly for campaign or tower stages, there is no go-to team, it often depends on the enemy you‘re facing

[pale kettle]

How do I reset

[limpid berry]

What team would be able to do 1300000 damage?

[vagrant ibex]

@zealous harness raku & fera with crit haste artifact or you can combo raku with daimon

Try to swap tasi with daimon and wear him with energy art
Brutus rowan (chalice or support art)
Daimon (energy) fera & raku (crit haste)

@limpid berry depends on what badge did you upgrade ? You need 2 gud hitter and 1- 2 support to do much damage

[limpid berry]

badge?

[vagrant ibex]

@vagrant basin thoran/ lucre /raku?

Ye what badge is it warrior or agility or what? And i cant see your full set up

[limpid berry]

i dont see any badge, other than the relic soul

[vagrant ibex]

@opaque drift
Thoran brutus
Shem rowan oden/eiron

The Duras or whatever you call it ... did you upgrade any duras?

[limpid berry]

got all of em at level 4

[vagrant ibex]

Well you need atleast 2 red duras at lvl 5 and need to focus on 1 duras its mage or celerity

[opaque drift]

didnt work :(

[vagrant ibex]

Try only Eiron with energy art so he can freeze earlier shem with attck art rowan with chalice

[vagrant basin]

thanks but still cant pass it

[vagrant ibex]

Eh really thoran and lucre cheese not work? Did you used 5 pull?

[vagrant basin]

ya with luc

[zealous harness]

Damn you're amazing! Thought I had tried that comp before but I didn't even kill a single enemy. Now it worked on the fourth try xD

[opaque drift]

i really need help😭

[slender elbow]

Any idea how I can win this? Tried so many lineups without success. If not possible: What do I need to push (Si, furn, other heroes, …) to make it happen?
Fyi, I already checked afkhelper

[slim portal]

Ainz carry, where is your albedo? 👀

borrow one from friend can work too

[slender elbow]

I‘ll garrison her soon, but both are not invested yet

[white lark]

Lineup for 280kk dmg on a abex final boss ?

[slim portal]

you can ask in #882428635213078538 , a lot good AE players there

[white lark]

Tanks ill ask

[noble crag]

How to beat it

[elfin cloak]

why Rowan in front

[outer grove]

Doable?

[silk lava]

I have a swap scroll and am relatively new to the game. Would you guys swap ascension levels of any of these heroes

[maiden marsh]

No

[silk lava]

Well that’s good I guess. I didn’t mess it up

[midnight bronze]

Someone half my level with higher level champs

[noble crag]

How to do it

[formal reef]

what should i change on my team

[barren zealot]

Thoran is still dying before his first ult. He’s only wearing boots and weapon. Someone had said that pippa’s +20 was the key. I’m borrowing one, and it’s still not working. Anything else I should change?

It works if I sub Lyca in for Ezhih, but I need her in another comp against Antandra

[zealous harness]

Ideas against that team? The healing paired with shield and totem distraction is causing problems

[barren zealot]

Do you have lyca and Nara?

[zealous harness]

Both E+, yeah

Okay with Tasi and Lyca it worked

[barren zealot]

Good! My picture wouldn’t go through lol

[slim portal]

Resonate nara and hook that Isabella

[barren zealot]

Brutus, ferael, Nara, Rowan, Daimon

[silk lava]

What is the benefit of Nara?

[barren zealot]

She pulls enemies towards her. Putting her across from a high damage enemy gives Daimon time to gather energy

[zealous harness]

Any other setups I could try except the one I’ve locked in? Found it on afk helper 🤔

[regal valve]

What team should i use

[barren zealot]

Daimon, Tasi, Ferael, Rowan, Nara. Rowan should be able to absorb the opening attack

[zealous harness]

He does survive, but Tasi dies onehit from Brutus. Rowan won't ultimate before Ezizh blocks it

[barren zealot]

Try swapping tasi for Brutus

This is when I garrisoned the Ainz comp 😅 Ezizh and Tasi are tough for Daimon

[zealous harness]

Rowan loses more energy from being chased by Athalia than getting from Call. No ultimate either. Brutus is the one being banished by Tasi if she's on the team

[pale kettle]

any idea how i can beat this?

[regal valve]

Here

[zealous harness]

Brutus in front of Daimon, Lyca in front of Ferael and Rowan instead of Nara maybe? And remove Ferael weapon, he'll use terrorize first then which should be enough to interrupt the first banish from Tasi

[slim portal]

This is simple
Ferael
Thoran
Nemora
Shemira
Nara
Dura’s call on shemira

[barren zealot]

Lyca’s haste buff isn’t very helpful against Ezizh. Supports can sometimes absorb Athalia’s opener, so maybe put tasi across from her? If tasi is freezing Brutus, you can probably put ferael on the front line and use cc against the two maulers

[maiden marsh]

either merc a 309 luc or merc a better ferael and copy the popular lineup on afkhelper

[regal valve]

thanks it helped

[pale kettle]

like that?

[zealous harness]

Rowan mid

[pale kettle]

if i have no tank infront of ferael he gets 1 hit

[zealous harness]

Ah wait, haven't seen the Athalia. Lyca can die right away, she's just for the speed to let Ferael terrorize

Ferael
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

[pale kettle]

ferael got 1hit again only brutus/daimon/thoran are the only champs that wont get 1hit

[zealous harness]

Even full t2 from Rowan won't let Tasi survive the initial dash from Athalia

[pale kettle]

rowan can´t ult

if i do it like that daimon ults once and dies

[zealous harness]

Try it more often 😅

[pale kettle]

if i do it like that its always like that

should i try that or that one you said?

[noble crag]

Cant pass that lvl

[slim portal]

Is your daimon SI20 3f?

It could be easier if your daimon is 240

[maiden marsh]

you can see in the picture the daimon is +20 0F

[slim portal]

Do you have rowan?

This is a tough level, to disable Tasi and Raine and blast through lucis heal and shield

Rowan and Daimon is MVP, or you can try ainz too

[pale kettle]

lol i got really lucky 😄

[slim portal]

Daimon crit?

[pale kettle]

ye

[slim portal]

Grats !

[pale kettle]

ty ^^

[zealous harness]

Searching for a 309 luc right now 😄 How should the setup look like then?

[maiden marsh]

something like lyca brutus nara rowan lucretia

[barren zealot]

Did you find one?

[zealous harness]

Yeah I beat the chapter

[ebon bobcat]

???

[elfin cloak]

hlep am stuck

[mortal mural]

Been struggling on killing the two backline, what team should I use and who should I merc?

[ebon bobcat]

Im stuck on 7-28 campaign

[signal canopy]

Reset Thoran and level Solise for now. If you haven't seen the beginner visual guide pinned in #classic-questions go look at it now. Very helpful for newer players

[dull flame]

don't put ainz and daimon into the same team, its questionable. Go full on daimon support or complete ainz carry. Seeing as you don't have albedo yet(probably should go garrison her), you should stick with a daimon team.
lyca
daimon
eironn
thoran
fereal

[fiery wing]

need help y'all

[short zephyr]

Are you able to let Rowan frontline? He usually can if he's geared enough, benefit of frontline rowan is if he does ult, you have a chance of stunning the enemy backline, that doesn't really happen if your rowan is backline-middle

[dull flame]

this.

[fiery wing]

ok imma try that thanks

[short zephyr]

The comp looks fine, you can also try experimenting with a tasi frontline once you have her ascended, as usual she needs to be geared, the strat is then to let tasi take enough damage so she takes the rowan energy potion for an instant sleep unto the enemy team

[neon swan]

Building an alt and super early into the game - Think it's better to invest into a Hodgkin or an Izold if those are my only options. Current team is Eiron, Daimon, Tasi, Desira, Hodgkin/Izold

I know Eiron/Daimon are main carries, looking for info on alternate heroes

[dull flame]

izold...hodgkin I'm not sure about, I have a friend who knows him super well, can ask for you

[fiery wing]

idk if my comps are weak/rc low or daimon not fully geared up makes a factor idk although frontline rowan makes a difference, the damage by the morvus and estrilda is too much

[neon swan]

@dull flame That'd be great. I rolled 2 copies of Hodgkin so can take him Legendary relatively soon, still a single copy of Izold

[short zephyr]

Try swapping the position of ferael/daimon then, when you parallel a unit without dodge to a morvus, they usually die

[short zephyr]

oh if you have excess gold, do upgrade rowan his boots! Thats a huge upgrade for him

upgrade with stars*

[fiery wing]

ok imma try that

[short zephyr]

Try this, brutus tanks the 3 biggest threats, you have to pray that fereal dodges the morvus/estrilda, and daimon is placed as far away from any potential threats

[dull flame]

as long as fereal gets that first fear it doesn't matter too much

[short zephyr]

ah yea thats true, I kinda forget how ferael performance is below 221

[hard forge]

wtf even is that crown. do better

[patent hemlock]

[short zephyr]

[fiery wing]

is fereal 221 a game changer?

[rigid imp]

well i got him to 240 but he die soon anyway so not really game changer early game

[maiden marsh]

Increases the duration of his spirits by 66%, making his sig much easier to utilize and buffing his kit greatly

[short zephyr]

^^

[rigid imp]

that stage is suck af

[fiery wing]

damn fereal cant even fear because of morvus

[wise gale]

anyone know raku comps with prince and ezio end game

[rigid imp]

yeah, estrilda interrupt him then morvus stun him to dead, if he's not stunned then he got feared by enemy ferael

[fiery wing]

i feel this is worse than tasi athalia or isa

because theres no counter except better haste and dodge

[wise gale]

oops wrong channel

[rigid imp]

estrilda+ferael stage is the worse imo, at least with athalia you can bait her with brutus
this stage can't even bait anyone cuz they all have big aoe

well ezizh is another lvl problem

[fiery wing]

the only hope is lyca and better gear sheesh

i shouldnt have push past stage 12 for free mythic gear

[rigid imp]

well we get 1 mythic every 3 days stuck at 1 stage even when we can't kill it so i hope i would get some good gear too

[earnest sage]

Help

[rigid imp]

put daimon backline, you don't want daimon to tank that brutus, especially when there are ankira, they will vaporize your daimon

[earnest sage]

Ok

[marble flare]

Hey!

I need help building a team cause things just aren't working anymore

[fiery wing]

lmao cant even get a good gb gear for daimon my chest and helm are still not gb

[fierce hull]

Any ideas on how to beat orthos?

[rigid imp]

the only strat is to kill him asap, if he's still survive then he can 1vs5 your team imo

[fierce hull]

Kill asap afaik?

[marble flare]

So here's my characters and I'll prob just level whoever I'm just upset cause things don't work anymore 👹👹

[short zephyr]

Hey your current unit pool is quite a mess and you made alot of beginner mistakes aswell, if you want to improve your situation, I suggest reading the pins over at #classic-questions

The best thing to do short term realistically is to garrison an ainz, link him with shemira and invest +20 into your ainz as a temporary carry

[marble flare]

Aint?

Ainz ?

[short zephyr]

ya ainz

[mortal mural]

How do I beat this while killing two back line first?

[marble flare]

I want to know wtf I should do for tanks cause that's my main issue cause shem just kills everything but 👹

[halcyon ruin]

Help. I literally can not make it past this level. Isabella just f u nukes through everything.
Also why is she in almost every team in Chapter 15 and up?

[rigid imp]

use your brutus, make it like this
daimon

thoran
mirael
brutus
arden

[halcyon ruin]

I only have one copy of brutus.

[rigid imp]

brutus work at any tier, just put him in your resonance crystal

[halcyon ruin]

Tried that, isabella still nukes me.

[rigid imp]

if you have eironn and nara you can try this
daimon

thoran (must have high armor)
eironn
brutus (his armor must lower than thoran, you can unequip his armor)
nara

[halcyon ruin]

It worked.

Ty.

[rich siren]

What ainz comps are there without merlin or rowan

[maiden marsh]

for pve or pvp

[rich siren]

PvE

[maiden marsh]

ainz albedo arthur +2, could be joker prince ferael ezio ezizh or any number of flexes

[rich siren]

TY

[hallow kettle]

Numisu works too in ainz comp. Mortas too if u can get him to ult.

[regal valve]

What to use for this stage

[frosty gazelle]

Hello? How do I do 28 billion(?) Damage here? Any help?

[slim portal]

Show all your hero

[regal valve]

help please

[outer grove]

Halp

[viral dock]

Hello i would like some help on this one

[slim portal]

I have passed this stage yesterday with eironn and lyca + daimon, but I can’t review my team…

I can check those with flag only, I did it with mystic+ daimon and 170 others

[regal valve]

@slim portal can you help with this

[warm swan]

@warm nebula try it with brutus, thoran, lorsan, ainz, lyca and see what happens

[slim portal]

Lyca
Thoran
Nemora
Shemira
Nara

[regal valve]

okay will try

[slim portal]

Dura’s call on shemira

[regal valve]

doesnt work, shem dies super fast, thoran lasts 7 seconds and nara just barely survives

[slim portal]

Hmm, I might have overvalued your shemira

[regal valve]

yeah shem sucks

legit saevas does more dmg

[slim portal]

She’s level 200, I thought she could stands longer in front line

[slim portal]

Ainz/Shemira
Thoran
Nemora
Brutus
Nara

Must down their Isabella > Fareal, I not sure how good is your ainz

[regal valve]

he 1 taps everyone if he gets to his ult

and does preety much most of the dmg all time

my nara dies but she aint making a diffrence even if she ruvives becouse ghrezul will come down

[slim portal]

It’s fine to let her die, her purpose is to disturb Isabella until ainz build up ultimate

[regal valve]

still doesnt work, tried it few times

[slim portal]

Dura’s call on ainz? He couldn’t down in 1 ultimate?

[regal valve]

he could but brutus survived becouse of his ability

[slim portal]

It could be easier if you have rowan to take nemora place

[slim portal]

Fareal takes Nemora place

Gives it a few tries until Fareal cast his haunted first

[regal valve]

i have but he is elite

[viral dock]

Help pls

[pale kettle]

please help me i just started playing and idk what to do

[signal canopy]

Go to #classic-questions and take a look at the pinned visual guide

[wary lark]

@acoustic axle I'd put gwyn across feral or mirael, eiron on the middle back and rowan top, thoran and lucius or daemon tank

[acoustic axle]

even with thoran i lose in 10sec

[wary lark]

Hmm, who is dealing most of the damage your team takes?

[robust arrow]

Any suggestions on a lineup for this, or just to much of a deficit?

[cedar wraith]

Looking for some help with a 3rd and 4th team for campaign.

Currently running:
Team 1 - Ainz, Albedo, Arthur, Merlin, Rowan
Team 2 - Eirronn, Tasi, Lyca, Rosaline, Safiya

[maiden marsh]

Got swap scroll still?

[cedar wraith]

Yep

Here’s the rest.

[acoustic axle]

the rosaline does most dmg lol

[maiden marsh]

What's the furn on grez?

[cedar wraith]

6/9 atm

[opaque drift]

fully stuck D:

[maiden marsh]

I'd swap safiya for oden, take rowan out of ainz in favor of a better ainz support like joker or prince, put lucretia in an eironn 5p team, make a charm team with rowan mehira core, and make a daimon cleanup team with daimon and 4 supports/tanks you have left

[cedar wraith]

Dope. I’ll try out your suggestion and do some testing to see what fits.

[pale kettle]

Mirael or saveas as early carry? I do not have rosaline

[pale kettle]

Any way to beat this?

Isabel is a pain to deal with

[opaque drift]

you double garrisoning ?

[pale kettle]

Well, just wanted to try Ainz + Albedo since people said it's pretty good but I probably did it a bit too early so won't be doing so afterwards 😅

[opaque drift]

ahhh gothca gotcha

[pale kettle]

Wondering if I should even garrison ainz next since he isn't helping much in campaign anymore

[opaque drift]

for me he got me out of chapter 21 to chapter 23-51 in a day hes a very good cary

but u also got diamon and hes cracked :D

[pale kettle]

True tho he also needs decent SI lvl and need to be power leveled and Daimon is taking both spots soo

One of my frens got to ch 18 with a 150 M+ Daimon and he has +20 SI so I'm working on that rn

[opaque drift]

fairs on my second i dont have ainz but diamon(lvl 200) on +20 SI and ive got to chapter 22

[pale lagoon]

http://imgur.com/a/gFRHcYH any ideas?

[midnight bronze]

If you have a nara you can probably hook the isabelle

[pale kettle]

Don't have her sadly... Been trying with errion but no dice

[thin merlin]

I get wrecked so fast on 14-38 but I see people beating these levels with a lot lower guys. Any tips?

[viscid canyon]

I literally just beat it 10min ago

With just legend+ units

[thin merlin]

hmm weird. Silvina destroys whoever I put up against her

[thin merlin]

I know I made some bad choices last time I played this now I'm trying to get things straightened out

[viscid canyon]

I used this team

[midnight bronze]

Maybe try to haste it and ult spam with daimon, I think I beat stages like that without nara using
Silas

Lyca
Rowan
Daimon
Rosa

[thin merlin]

I'll try it out

[midnight bronze]

Try to hook the Arden with nara instead

[midnight bronze]

Did you hook the Arden?

[midnight bronze]

Nara

Skriath
Rowan
Brutus
Belinda

Maybe try that, I gtg

[thin merlin]

Died to quick. Ok I’ll try that

[solemn obsidian]

i assume i cant do anything here the deficit is too high for my level right ? just afk and levelup chars to 160?

[thin merlin]

Thanks

Got the hook and I beat it!

[pale kettle]

How did u clear ch 14 with just L+ Daimon and my M Daimon isn't cutting it :////

[viscid canyon]

My Silas is OP heals everyone to full. It’s pretty heavy on RNG tho

[pale kettle]

Yea his heals are amazing but don't have copies for L+

[slim portal]

This is simple, just disable opponent Mirael with Nara

[solemn obsidian]

no nara :C

[slim portal]

Eironn? You need someone to disable her, otherwise she just destroying your team

[viscid canyon]

Not even just an elite Nara?

[torpid lance]

Any help is much appreciated. Can't get Luc cheese to work either.

[slim portal]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=33&stage=59
Refers to here for those cleared

Thoran cheese works too

[torpid lance]

Thank you. I'll check it out

[torpid lance]

Missing Pippa 20 and Call 5* for Cheese I'm afraid

[solemn obsidian]

rip eironn dosent get him pull off cause of estruldia

welp ill just wait for levels

[slim portal]

Wut, put him upper side

Something like
Eironn
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus
Oden

[solemn obsidian]

eironn top side like that dosent pull her

[slim portal]

Doesn’t matter, he makes space for daimon to go for her

Unless your daimon dead in 2 seconds, he should be good enough

[solemn obsidian]

nope dead in 2 secs

[slim portal]

No equipment?

[solemn obsidian]

just too low level

[slim portal]

Dura’s call on him too, 20 isn’t too much

[stone coyote]

Any suggestions please?

[torpid lance]

Got it with Luc cheese eventually. 33-59

[slim portal]

Grats

[slim portal]

Easy, Daimon upper frontline
Oden
Daimon
Rowan
Brutus or anyone that doesn’t dead in one second
Nara

Important part is send that lucis to Africa and down their raine, also disable that annoying flashy girl with Nara

[sick granite]

ive been stuck at this one for a while now

[stone coyote]

They just all die right away

[sick granite]

yeah most of the time, but i figured id ask so maybe theres a comp that might just do it

[slim portal]

Rowan T1 equipment on boots and weapon at least? Daimon too

[stone coyote]

Daimon has all T1 Rown has just t1 weapon

[slim portal]

You need the T1 boot man, don’t put your rowan front line without it lmao

[stone coyote]

Oh alr

[slim portal]

Lyca
Daimon
Rowan
Thoran
Arden/Ferael

[slim portal]

Did daimon managed to ultimate? Or just dead right away?

[stone coyote]

He ults

[sick granite]

i had to retry a bit but that actually worked, thanks!! i was using tasi where you placed arden/ferael, is there an explanation to why tasi wouldnt be as good here?

[slim portal]

This isn’t a hard level, the power difference isn’t huge, there’re a lot of formation that should works

[sick granite]

i tried a lot with that comp but i just couldnt get it...

[slim portal]

It’s so many that I don’t want to list them all, and grats for beating it

[sick granite]

thanks!

[stone coyote]

I beat it after a few trys and replacing nara with lyca 😁

[slim portal]

Grats !

Nara should be better, maybe lacking equipment. But a clear is a clear !

[elfin cloak]

am stuck hlep

[slim portal]

What level is your ainz?

[elfin cloak]

200

[slim portal]

Wow, a lot comp works here

[elfin cloak]

wat u mean

[slim portal]

Try
Ainz
Rock boy
Nara
Thoran
Rowan

[elfin cloak]

ok

[slim portal]

If it doesn’t works then replace rowan with lyca, also don’t forget dura’s call on ainz

[elfin cloak]

ok

it was close but I still lost oof

[slim portal]

Try several times

Don’t forget to put on equipment too

Could be much easier if you have a mystic rowan with SI20

Or even SI10 will works

[elfin cloak]

o gosh that took like 30 tries

[lusty ferry]

anyone help?

[slim portal]

Wut

[lusty ferry]

idk who should be my 5th character my belind and estrilda get one shotted immediately :/

[slim portal]

Idek who’s your opponent

[lusty ferry]

tbh i just want a character in general ngl

[slim portal]

And those are horrible investment too, probably return player? Seems they’re old metas

[lusty ferry]

but here

[lusty ferry]

yes im return player

[slim portal]

Isn’t a tough level, disable Isabella with hero like Nara/Arden/Ferael/Nemora etc

Also, I can’t give a general team since team varies on opponent

[sweet pasture]

how to win

[lunar badge]

Anyone have any good suggestions for my lineup right now? I know this is super early game in the long run of things, and not much is invested, but seeing if I have the potential for a good comp with daimon / thoran

[slim portal]

And I’m not an old player, shemira and lucis is bad these day

[lusty ferry]

yeah i saw that they were bad

[slim portal]

I won’t invest them further in level nor equipment, probably find next carry like daimon for example

[lusty ferry]

oh okay

is thoran good or not?

[maiden marsh]

good tank, better cheeser

[slim portal]

Thoran isn’t a carry, but a solid one as tank and use in cheese ye

[sweet pasture]

Thoran is THE carry

[slim portal]

He’s like chap 14

You don’t cheese in chap 14

And he needs a good carry to replace shemira

@lusty ferry idk who else is in your box, but if you don’t have 4 copies of daimon yet can consider garrison ainz

You’re going to do that eventually anyway

Maybe veterans in #classic-questions can give better suggestions too

[lusty ferry]

was he free i stopped playing when Solise released

[slim portal]

Try to ask them as well

He will be free after garrison’d 6 times, and I’m quite a relatively new player

[slim portal]

Read the pinned visual beginner guide in #classic-questions channel

[lunar badge]

oo copy, I thought I had seen something like that before, but couldn't find it again! TY!

[brave oriole]

@silk burrow should be easy with rowan Brutus, daimon nara lyca or so. Assuming that Rosa follows Lucius or so, and hit brutus

[flat acorn]

Based on this screenshot, can anyone guess what it is I'm doing wrong that I can't beat the team at a higher level?

Fera is 203, im not sure how impactful his SI 30 and 9 furn are, would that do it?

[maiden marsh]

arthur 30 is allowing him to tank kaz in the afkhelper clear

[flat acorn]

Oh so its SI30 on arthur

[brave oriole]

Should be okay tho, try with lyca instead of tasi

[flat acorn]

thats a bitch hes still at 20 😭

[brave oriole]

And maybe move daimon top, to free hit more

[flat acorn]

afkhelper is so useful, but some of the levels like this one are all just the same comp over and over, or whale levels

[maiden marsh]

arthur probably gets estrilda kicked without 30 as well

[brave oriole]

U can use Brutus instead, if there's no power cap

[flat acorn]

I can fit in brutus, yeah

[brave oriole]

But anyway tasi it's not good with daimon, I prefer lyca for haste

Try Brutus then, debuff helps a lot

[flat acorn]

with brutus in, lyca or tasi both still just get crushed instantly :<

[brave oriole]

What's your artifacts?

[flat acorn]

need more SI emblems zz

[brave oriole]

Nah, as far daimon it's +30 should be okay.

[flat acorn]

daimon is 309 (i know 6 wasted but it was my first character leveled)

[brave oriole]

It's not wasted, he's strong with it, even late game

U may try to cc tasi, does she banish daimon?

[flat acorn]

no, she banishes fera

[brave oriole]

Okay, then try to see rowan down Brutus up and if works better

[flat acorn]

daimon just gets 100-0'd shortly after though. Rowan dies, then he drops a second later

[brave oriole]

Use some def artifact on rowan, chalice grace or so

[flat acorn]

got a spot that seems like it has potential if its run about 200 times lol

[brave oriole]

Do you have raku? This dude kill fast

[flat acorn]

Not yet, working on him tho

[foggy grove]

Good alternative to khaz and izold? Can't merc

[brave oriole]

Rosaline maybe

[foggy grove]

didn't really work, rosa just ends up dying fast

[brave oriole]

@foggy grove u can try gwyn

[wise gale]

anyone have have some ideas for prince raku comps

[dull flame]

hey, friend replied, hodg is great, but not prioritized for early game. I'd recommend izold too, he just needs si, and 3/9 furn

[neon swan]

@dull flame gotchya, thanks for the reply. Did he specify si30 for izold

[dull flame]

*she. No, izold is my recommendation, tbh +20 is fine for chap 20 and below, as long as he has the 3/9 furn. +30 helps a lot tho for later.

[lean kindle]

Plz guys best team to reach 280m damage on boss

[dull flame]

no grez...

[lean kindle]

So did i f up :(

[brave oriole]

Just use Cecilia I guess, but twins?

[maiden marsh]

grez will make it orders of magnitude easier, even at E+

[dull flame]

not completely.......raine and tasi are pointless tho

[lean kindle]

Any formation in mind ?

[dull flame]

twins
luc
rowan
lyca
cecilia
maybe

[maiden marsh]

try eironn drez silas/cecilia rowan twins

[lean kindle]

Thanks I'll try it now

[dull flame]

silas is not that great without +30 or furn

but give it a go, I'm not great at boss team comps

[maiden marsh]

still a usable healer and his ult is significant

I'm not sold on L luc since there isn't a grez link to make her attack not shit

[dull flame]

hmm

still can work, max celerity anyway

[maiden marsh]

good point, forgot ascension stats are less important in ae

[lean kindle]

Oh almost but :(

[maiden marsh]

try replacing drez with lucretia

[dull flame]

this

[brave oriole]

Lucretia should go wild for a short time

[nimble fossil]

Who can I use here? I’ve been stuck for a while

[brave oriole]

Skreg with call, tidus, backline I would try numitsu chicken kren. I'm not sure if skreg with call can cc Thane, I forgot

[dull flame]

skriath
brutus
kren
tidus
numisu

[dull flame]

skreg is pointless without furn

[brave oriole]

Nope, he can cc eironn etc still and cancel the pull and so on

[dull flame]

there are better things to cc eironn..., and that's only if he's frontline

[brave oriole]

Skreg can cc a lot of things, I've used with call a lot. But I can't rlly remember on what. +10 si is fine tho, furn it's for invade

[dull flame]

barricade/waistband is what I use, never use him in campaign tho

[brave oriole]

I did, with gwyn

[dull flame]

.....what chapter?

[brave oriole]

Eh, 36 or 35,but gwyn it's dead now. Anyway, logged on some alt to show you the diff with call and with barricade etc

[nimble fossil]

I’m guessing I gotta build Numisu

[dull flame]

tbh he just there for just being there

[brave oriole]

Yeah, he's a great hero

An invested numitsu, it's a big deal

[dull flame]

only in ainz teams...

[nimble fossil]

Because even with your suggestion teams, Ezizh is still preventing ults

[dull flame]

ugh, I don't want the numisu convo again, had it already

[brave oriole]

Well, there's a diff between an a clean and an invested one. Campaign it's just brutal at some point and that is

[dull flame]

have him at 10 0 and can't see the reason to put more

[brave oriole]

Well, more haste at 15 etc.

I dunno about 30,but 3/3 +20 it's fine

It helps, but again, on high def, many heroes have an hard time

[dull flame]

hm

[dull flame]

except for thoran...

[brave oriole]

I haven't touched from a while campaign, but I did pushed towers. Numitsu it's rlly needed on mauler. By the time everyone should ascend him, not a priority, but a must later

He's better than a few maulers

[dull flame]

ironically used khasos lol

[nimble fossil]

Damn it, I was trying to ascend Drez or the new Mauler

[dull flame]

drez only used in ae, can work low ascensions

new mauler isn't priority, standard luc 5 pull still better

[nimble fossil]

I’ve seen him used in Mauler tower, and once in campaign, albeit he was near maxed.

[dull flame]

push to chap 37....

[viscid canyon]

Any advice? I’m stuck and wanna finish chapter 15 so in chapter 16 I can finally get mystic gear

[dull flame]

daimon
thoran
fereal
brutus
silas

[brave oriole]

Don't rlly need Silas, try lyca for haste

[dull flame]

sht forgot the lyca got distracted

daimon
thoran
fereal
lyca
silas

[viscid canyon]

I’m getting destroyed lol I’ll try the second one you posted

[pale kettle]

brutus better tank than thoran in that case i think

[brave oriole]

Just put daimon back of Brutus

[viscid canyon]

Bro I’m getting wrecked. Not working. Still everyone on the field. None of my characters can pop a skill off and when daimon does she gets 1 shot it’s irritating me

[dull flame]

daimon is a he

[viscid canyon]

Can’t assume he’s a he. Maybe it’s a she

[dull flame]

do.you.never.read.the.story?

[foggy grove]

maybe it's a it

[viscid canyon]

Exactly^

[brave oriole]

Try Brutus lyca front, rowan daimon ferael back. Use dura's call on daimon maybe

[viscid canyon]

Already have duras call on daimon, but I’ll try that

Nope got wrecked. I think I’m just hard stuck till a month goes past and I can level up my characters 2 levels🥲

[maiden marsh]

or just merc

[dull flame]

lmao no one's ever been stuck for a month

just retry it more, rng is heavy with daimon

[brave oriole]

Eh, drama
He used merc as u can see, sooo..

He's not for a month

[viscid canyon]

I’ve done this stage about 600 times today🤣

[brave oriole]

Well man, honestly, is your daimon having any mythic gear?

Guild shop it's selling after chap 12,so you should have parts

[viscid canyon]

No mythic gear just lego

[brave oriole]

And where are your guild coins going?

[dull flame]

well going technical here, lets assume each battle has average of 15 secs, and 5 secs to load heroes and stuff. That's 12,000 secs, or 200 hours....so....

[viscid canyon]

But I can check. It’s just the mystic cost like 3K gems a piece

Guild coins going for ainz

[brave oriole]

Nope, not with diamonds.

[flint mica]

Hello, I just started 2 days ago and I dont really know what im doing, looking for any general advice. Slowmode is active but ill post my current guys

[dull flame]

daimon first, ainz needs albedo

[brave oriole]

It's too early for ainz now

[dull flame]

this

[maiden marsh]

pins in #classic-questions have new player guides

[dull flame]

set up your wishlist like the guide

[floral gate]

Any tips for this level/general set-up?

[brave oriole]

Yeah, use a other mage there so mirael stay alive,

Rosaline maybe

[dull flame]

or twins, get that faction bonus

or does silvina not target support

[floral gate]

Twins did in fact get targeted but died instantly

rosa did the job (after some moving around)

[pale kettle]

hogan golus frontline and arden backlin

[floral gate]

should i switch around some heroes on my crystal? dont know if any of the ones that aren't on there could be useful?

[noble crag]

Any tips?

[pale kettle]

Everything else is level 4 or 5, can anyone help with please? Need 280+

[tight juniper]

Thats really easy, Grez (soul), Lucretia, Mortas, Rowan, Twins. You would definitely beat it

[pale kettle]

In that order ? @tight juniper

[tight juniper]

Yeah

[pale kettle]

Wont let me use mortars

Mortas*

And grez is grezul right?

[tight juniper]

Grezhul yeah, if you can't use mortas, you can replace with Cecilia probably

[pale kettle]

I got 278 LOL

[tight juniper]

Thats strange, you should hit the damage. Guess just wait for relics

[pale kettle]

Ahahah GG @tight juniper youre the champ!

[tight juniper]

Congrats!

[rigid imp]

@fiery wing what team did you use to pass stage 28-14 ?
are they all 220 ?

[fiery wing]

yesss i did the same exact lineup, but i upgraded rowans boots to t2 and put upgrade daimons gear and about 20-40 tries i did it

[rigid imp]

oh okie

[fiery wing]

im gonna hold to stage 24 until i got some decent gear and increase fereals level to 240

i believe next stage is also fereal estrilda stage but easier, and after that its all about just eirron succing

[rigid imp]

well i think i'm gonna stay here for a few more days until i get my rowan boots to t2 then

[noble crag]

What should i change to win

[fiery wing]

call on rowan too

[fiery wing]

get a nara

[rigid imp]

daimon use call or eye ?

[fiery wing]

call

[noble crag]

Nara?

[fiery wing]

the one you get from the chest in the newbie

[noble crag]

I got 10 scrolls and silas dropped

I only have this

[fiery wing]

you should have get nara shes an early game friend, try eirron and replace mirael

[noble crag]

Ok i completed it xd

I just upgraded mirael to 145 from 140 lol

And i got thoran from faction scrolls yay

[rigid imp]

might try this
daimon

brutus
eironn
lyca
athalia

[pale kettle]

Tbh idk what was the point of the athalia cause she doesn’t stop the banish

[rigid imp]

she die before she interrupt tasi first banish ?
cuz you don't have nara so i have to suggest athalia instead

[ebon bobcat]

just got all 140s in the crystal

[vagrant ibex]

@pale kettle try with oden teleport
Brutus daimon
Oden rowan fera or you can useing lorsan link

Brutus daimon
Lorsan rowan oden

Or

Rowan brutus
Daimon oden fera

It shud be easy

[iron knoll]

Who can I put in my formation to beat 9-16

[jolly plume]

help

[viral dock]

Help pls

[manic goblet]

What would my best team for pve vattles generally be? Im currently on chapter 13 of the campaign

[warm swan]

@manic goblet rosa following bel for multiple ults while rest of comp hold the line

[noble crag]

Tips?

[warm swan]

Rowan in pos 3, mira pos 4, silv pos 5 myb?

[noble crag]

Worked

[viral dock]

Help pls

[manic goblet]

What should i use to stall then? It seems like no matter who i use they die so fast and then bel and rosa die right after

[regal valve]

Help

[vagrant ibex]

Thoran lucius
Shemira nara lyca
If thoran cant use his cursed ability try to move him at no 3

[regal valve]

nah shemira too shit

[vagrant ibex]

@viral dock
Daimon thoran
Nara rowan fera

[regal valve]

she didnt even do any damage

[vagrant ibex]

Use nemora then for support .. might be work with her charm

[regal valve]

who tf will deal dmg then

[vagrant ibex]

Shemira....
Shemira lucius
Thoran nemora lyca

[regal valve]

will try

problem is that belinda has least hp

and curse goes on her

[vagrant ibex]

Then
Thoran lucius
Shemira nemora nara ....
Nara Might be locked her so lucius could use his shield

[regal valve]

nah even worse now

they barely do dmg to enemies

[noble crag]

Help

[fiery wing]

show box

[fiery wing]

oohh hmm try to make mira 160 then retry

[viral dock]

@vagrant ibex thanks

Is there an other team i could do against that ?

[regal valve]

help

[short zephyr]

Get your ainz his si to +20, and does putting in granit instead of ferael work better? I would also advise you to stop investing into lucius for now, he's not that great compared to other options later down the line

[regal valve]

i stopped investing in him, but granit doesnt help anything

i tried it once and it just let my other heroes to die

[short zephyr]

hmm ok, does lucius manage to get an ultimate off? You can probably replace thoran with lyca

[regal valve]

yeah he does

but their ferael stays alive and kills my ainz

[short zephyr]

Get signature item +20 for your ainz then, its a massive boost

[regal valve]

i am doing it, i just need 10 more emblems

[short zephyr]

Goodluck 👍🏽

[regal valve]

thanks for help bro

[viral dock]

Can i get help on this one ? Pls

[short zephyr]

Does this work?

Lyca can die, you have to pray that ferael can dodge the eironn dmg from his pull, make sure Nara has enough haste to actually stop mehira bats, she may need upgraded boots and call artifact for this

[viral dock]

@short zephyr Daimon die pretty fast

[short zephyr]

Does daimon survive being pulled by the eironn?

[viral dock]

It's hard to get a run where fera and Daimon survive the start of the fight and even then they die a few sec after

No he die against ezizh and nemora

[short zephyr]

Hmm I used a different team against that comp, daimon is a bit hard because of the ult deny from ezizh, so I'm not really sure how you could beat it with your current units

[final star]

Well does Mehira get her bats off?

[viral dock]

Mehira didn't used her bats

But im still getting destroyed by Eironn a nemora ult rlly early and a ezizh Who didn't let Daimon ult when he's in 1v5 after 20 sec of fight

[final star]

Why is Thoran there? Does your Eironn pull first?

[viral dock]

@final star i don't used Eironn

I changed my team

[final star]

Try Rowan instead of Thoran and see how it goes? And maybe Tasi instead of Lyca

[viral dock]

Tasi die from Eironn pull and Rowan die to fast too

[lucid rain]

Ascended shemira? Or thoran?

[slim portal]

Nara
Thoran
Eironn
Daimon
Ferael

Make sure your eironn pulls first and Ferael uses haunted right after, and Nara disables mehira

Daimon can finish the rest, as long as Tasi and Ezi is down

[slim portal]

Shemira is bad, level your daimon to 180 first

Don’t simply makes one mystic if you have no 6-7 copies at least

[viral dock]

@slim portal fera get ban before the fear come do i need to remove a gear to make him used his fear faster ?

[worthy island]

any ideas without lucretia?

[slim portal]

You can try it ye, his fear is crucial

[slim portal]

Try to refer to those cleared team here
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=37&stage=52

[worthy island]

no lucretia

[slim portal]

Borrow one from friend smh

Or you meant Lucretia used in another team?

[worthy island]

i have a request pending already

no guarantee that i'll get it before going offline though

[slim portal]

I saw a few team without Lucretia in afkhelper, try to reference to them

[worthy island]

nah every submission used lucretia

[worthy island]

no zolrath + i needed lyca for r4

[slim portal]

True, call your friend and ask for a Lucretia

[worthy island]

unfortunately i don't have any contact with him ahaahahah

literally just added today too

[slim portal]

Make more friends who has Lucretia available

[worthy island]

i do have a lot, but it's a day before weekly reset and all of them had already been merced out

[slim portal]

Or wait next short-term reset which is soon

If you’re in a hurry, try to ask in #mercenary or even general chat haha

[worthy island]

yeah but i wanted to be able to clear it today before reset because 37-56 would need lucretia again

[fossil umbra]

I hate mauler,how to beat this wave

[torn tundra]

Hi guys, i need a second strong team for campaign, could you advise me pls ?

[maiden marsh]

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[umbral whale]

need help with this stage pls

[torn tundra]

That's my first team

[maiden marsh]

Second team can be daimon carry, you have swap scroll still?

[torn tundra]

Hmm i wish i still had it, i swapped too early belonda to saurus

[maiden marsh]

Tragic

[torn tundra]

I'm focusing daimon btw, what you wanted me to swap ?

[slim portal]

Brutus > Lyca
Rowan/Silas > Ferael

[maiden marsh]

Ainz should be behind arthur fyi

[torn tundra]

Thx

[umbral whale]

I dont have brutus 😦 also whats the 5th hero on the team? daimon i suppose

[torn tundra]

So daimon and then who ?

[slim portal]

means swap or replace

[umbral whale]

I dont have a brutus tho, what should be in place of that?

[slim portal]

You can starts to work for these teams

[slim portal]

Idk, anyone who don’t dead in 2 seconds
Alna works too

AAA and Lucretia/Alna team is recommended first

[torn tundra]

Thanks !

[high storm]

Comp is working so far, what would be a good replacement for mirael? Or any other suggestions for changes, TY IN ADVANCE

[slim portal]

Daimon, read the pinned visual guide in #classic-questions

[vagrant horizon]

I was just trying something new with daimon I just got him A* so I’m not really familiar with him that much Ik my LB lineup would work but I wanna try some GB comps

[slim portal]

That’s not how GB comp works, daimon isn’t a tank and shemira sucks

Also you needs a SI20 daimon

SI30 rowan too

Or just stick with your luc and bulli them

[noble crag]

How to do it

[slim portal]

Brutus swap with assassin girl
Daimon go front line
Assassin girl can go behind daimon

[regal valve]

Help

[noble crag]

Not working

[slim portal]

Drop assassin girl for lyca

The pink hair girl sitting on deer

[slim portal]

Give your rowan SI30 or at least SI20, level gaps is a bit huge, especially faction disadvantage for daimon
You can try

Ferael
Thoran
Rowan
Daimon
Nara

If your thoran doesn’t die in 1 or 2 hits and Ferael managed to do fear

Possible to make some time for daimon to do 2 ultimate

And pray it crit

You can try talene front line too, if daimon managed to survive longer in field

[regal valve]

anyone who can help with this

[dull flame]

grezhul out for rosaline, let her follow ainz

[regal valve]

will try

[misty depot]

what should my lineup be

[regal valve]

daimon instead of tasi

you should be able to do that lineup up to chapter 11

[misty depot]

ok 👍

[signal canopy]

Trade out Belinda for Rowan because she isn't doing anything here. Lucius too for Brutus if he's dying before an ult

[vagrant horizon]

Lucius is getting ults off its daimon who’s getting killed before alts but my Lucretia it’s definitely stronger than daimon

[burnt lily]

how to do this?

[sturdy idol]

Well, you do have Daimon in the front.

[vagrant horizon]

Lucius Brutus Belinda Rowan and idk the new guy ig

[vagrant horizon]

I’m not that familiar with daimon lol I just got him ascended

[sturdy idol]

Well, he’s one of the best carries in the game for early game if you use him correctly.

In order for him to be OP, he needs to be able to stack his blood shields, so it’s recommended to put Call on him.

[noble crag]

what is call?

how to put it on him

[burnt lily]

it doesn´t work

[sturdy idol]

It’s called Duras Call, an artifact which you’ll unlock.

[dull flame]

he is still a great carry late game

[vagrant horizon]

Try shemira in belindas place and trade the new guy for rosalind

[noble crag]

when do you unlock it?

[dull flame]

it's in one of the peaks of time

[sturdy idol]

Yep.

[dull flame]

go to your artifact section and you can see

[vagrant horizon]

Gotta cop that

Yea

[dull flame]

chap 30? daimon?

[vagrant horizon]

Yea

[dull flame]

I'm using him at a 200 lvl deficit in chapter 37, and works fine @vagrant horizon

[burnt lily]

still doesn't work

[dull flame]

He scales based on enemies, but endgame he fits into grez alna comps

[vagrant horizon]

Welp idk I’m trash sorry 🤣

[burnt lily]

ok 😂

[dull flame]

hmm here:
shem
brutus
rosa
lyca
daimon
make rosa follow shem

[vagrant horizon]

Best comp for my heroes

[slim portal]

What is this horrible investment

[burnt lily]

no but thanks

[slim portal]

You have made way too many legend

[vagrant horizon]

Like I said I’m trash

[dull flame]

luc in eironnn safyia team, daimon in rowan cc team

[slim portal]

Those fodders are needed for your mystic and mystic+

[dull flame]

^

[dull flame]

so it didn't work? how many times do you retry?

[vagrant horizon]

Retrying works …. Weirdly

[burnt lily]

but i don´t have the elite+

[slim portal]

Because those elite+ has been fed to your legend

[dull flame]

that's the point, getting another e+ could take ages, so you don't want to waste fodder on them

[burnt lily]

ok

[dull flame]

because of rng(dodge, crits, stuff like that)

[sturdy idol]

🥶

[dull flame]

has a luc, should be fine

[grand perch]

Hello @burnt lily,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[ornate mesa]

tips for 9-36? stuck for a bit now

[misty sluice]

can someone help me with a stage ?

[dull flame]

cecilia
thoran
gwyn
grez
lyca

[dull flame]

get better heroes, belinda falls off. I'd rather have you hold your progression here, and build up a daimon, then struggle to push further

[misty sluice]

belinda is not that good?

[dull flame]

she's worse than F tier now, at least for campaign

[misty sluice]

so i need to stop upgrading her?

[sturdy idol]

Oh my.

[dull flame]

yes. focus on daimon, and other graveborns

[misty sluice]

like shemira?

[dull flame]

everyone other than shemira, baden, torne, isabella, kelthur

[misty sluice]

ok

[sturdy idol]

Isn’t Torne considered a fodder hero?

[dull flame]

that's why I said don't build him...

[sturdy idol]

Oh, I misread it. That’s my bad. 😅

[dull flame]

np

[sturdy idol]

Regarding Kelthur though, he can be used in some late-game formations, right?

[dull flame]

yes, but he can work at e/e+, so no need to push him unless you're struggling with powercap. I made him ascended because I felt bad about foddering him to my shem to get her to mythic more than a year ago

[ebon hazel]

Apologies are probably accepted there

[elfin cloak]

hlep

[dull flame]

thane +20.....

[elfin cloak]

uhhh well I was testing lol I didn't know thane was bad oof

[dull flame]

ainz
brutus
nara
lyca
rosaline

[elfin cloak]

well ainz and brutus are linked

[dull flame]

*facepalm

[dull flame]

link ainz with thane then

[pale kettle]

^

[halcyon ruin]

Help.

[fiery wing]

i need help y'all

[pale kettle]

does brutus have barricade?

[steady aurora]

What’s the best comp for wrizz and Soren?

[fiery wing]

not equipped

[nimble fossil]

So, an update.

So, I can get close on Mauler tower floor 360, but literally the biggest problem is Ezizh. On one of tries I did, Kren had his ult ready for 5 seconds, but he was unable to because Ezizh. He was killed afterwards and Tidus soon followed. I swear, I don’t know how other players do it.

[pale kettle]

with enough rng prolly, if u run macro prolly easiest to just macro stage overnight

[pale kettle]

give him barricade, thats his best and only artifact and then try again

[fringe garnet]

So my celestial team kind of sucks and im stuck on floor 115. Meanwhile my Hypos are almost at floor 250. I was wondering if any of the units that aren't on the levelling crystal worth putting on to improve my celestial team?

[pale kettle]

slotting in athalia and/or zaph might help

[fringe garnet]

Im guessing id be taking out the e+ twins on the lineup im guessing here? or is there a better replacement 😮

[nimble fossil]

Macro?

[pale kettle]

yes macro, do u play on PC and/or Bluestacks?

[nimble fossil]

Nope. Mobile

[fringe garnet]

@pale kettle Sorry to bother you just one last question? If I can only make room for one unit on my levelling crystal you think an E zaph or athalia would be more helpful on my current lineup?

[pale kettle]

hmm Im honestly not 100% sure. I think zaph might be slightly better though

[pale kettle]

rip, guess no macro then lul

[fringe garnet]

Awesome thanks. Ill try Zaph out thanks for the help again appreciate it

[pale kettle]

best of luck!

[fringe garnet]

thanks zaph did enough damage at the beginning of the fight 🙂 was able to clear it with 3 seconds left ! TY was stuck on this floor for a while and didn't want to use a merc so early in the week.

[pale kettle]

Congrats!

[high marlin]

How

How tf do I get thoran cheese to work

[proud estuary]

How to beat these hookers lol

[halcyon ruin]

How to get past Mauler Tower Floor 40?
3 of my team gets nuked in 4 seconds and the rest can't do anything.

[proud estuary]

Use brutus upfront will give a few seconds of time to deal dps

[halcyon ruin]

It worked. Barely. Thx.

[proud estuary]

Nvm I got them ty haha

[pale kettle]

Main problems saf melting my face off and spider lady corrosion

[worldly apex]

Brutus Daimon Nara eironn rowan

[worldly apex]

^try that

[pale kettle]

Me when Nara doesn’t exist

I used the second best option (athalia) and still got my face melted

[worldly apex]

this clear from afk helper maybe, you have all these units

[pale kettle]

Nvm I got it @worldly apex thanks for the suggestions

[worldly apex]

nice gj

[pale kettle]

And from the cards a got I pulled a grez and then I pulled another grez from the faction card thing

[pale kettle]

I need help with this peaks of time I can’t kill the tanks the Lucius keeps healing

[austere root]

i think you don't have a lot of choices, since your squad isn't alot.
The thing is you need to interupt the healers using nara, athalia, morrow, or something else.
If you can't afford that then you just need better power, i see u have ainz you may want to garrison albedo and collect lab coins for arthur, then you go your ainz become a badass

[leaden glacier]

Merc an ainz or luc

[cursive cloak]

Can anyone help me with how to beat the third team of 36-56 I see everyone using the thoran cheese, but I can never get it to work for me my thoran dies before ult

[pale kettle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/po93gw/optimizing_thoran_cheese_a_study_of_gear/

[proud estuary]

Can anyone help? Thanks in advance

[torpid lance]

Help please.

Thoran cheese possible maybe? Any tips?

[pseudo vine]

Not really possible, most people on afkhelper seem to cheese the 1/2nd stage

[polar ivy]

How to pass this stage? Tried with Merlin/Skriath/Lyca instead of Ferael and tried with Daimon comp too

[dull flame]

you're albedo isn't +30, that's the main problem. Should have went for that instead of ainz's. Try this:
rowan
albedo
ainz
arthur
fereal

[elfin cloak]

helppppp

[polar ivy]

No luck with that comp :( Ainz damage just isn't enough without albedo +30...

[polar ivy]

I have Thorann SI at 26. Should I prio him to +30 and use Thoran comp? Or go for Albedo straight away?

[dull flame]

it really depends, you need 300 red chests to go from +20 to +30, and 200 red chests to go from +25 to +26. Thoran is great, he was my first +30, but I think you should switch to albedo asap, and buy the emblems from lab store too

[polar ivy]

Okay I will do that. Thank you :) Stupid mistake by me but I will recover

[dull flame]

mhm

[candid flint]

Pls help

[dull flame]

move daimon to the top

[candid flint]

nope gets destroye

[dull flame]

😩

[candid flint]

':(

[dull flame]

swap position of brutus and thoran too

[candid flint]

ok

nope when thane get his uilt, daimon doesnt have his shield

[dull flame]

try again

[candid flint]

nope

[dull flame]

rip

[candid flint]

time to wait another 6 days

[dull flame]

yeah...

[candid flint]

my friended beated it with ascended thoran, does that make a diffference

[dull flame]

it could, the sig can make him immune

[candid flint]

oh man

[dull flame]

daimon has high rng, just retry retry and retry

[candid flint]

ok

[brave oriole]

@candid flint u may use rowan. Replace thoran with rowan and some def artifact, and put daimon back of him

[candid flint]

nope, desttoy

[brave oriole]

Well, put rowan daimon down then

Tbh, pulling mehira with eironn, may be a bad idea, u can just use nara

[dull flame]

^ please help him, I'm helping like 6 people at the same time

[rigid imp]

you can become friend with me and see the team that i used on that stage cuz i can't remember what it was

[candid flint]

ok pls send id

[unkempt hawk]

can anyone help me with this?

[crisp bay]

Any cheese expert here ? I am strugling to use the comp on this fight, my Thoran isn't doing any damages probably because of Grez's shields. I removed the gear on my thoran except the T3 Weapon/Boots (T3 coming from my Saurus, should I use factionnal T2 5* instead ?). I don't have access to 5* call yet and I don't see what else I could change to make it work, I've retried for several hours now and the best I could get was everyone dead except that nightmare Flora. Is it a very high RNG Cheese stage or am I doing something wrong ? Cheers

[crisp bay]

We'd have to see your hero box to answer but any time there is an enemy Isabella, you should disrupt her using Nara/Eironn to make sure she doesn't annihilate your team

[maiden marsh]

Don't cheese that, alna grez it instead

[crisp bay]

Alright thanks I'll try ! I'm surprised because everyone seemed to have passed the stage using Thoran on R3 but I have access to your comp so I'll try ! Thanks

[maiden marsh]

Thoran is absolutely horrendous here, he technically works but it's not worth the effort, especially at 130 deficit.

[cursive cloak]

Pls help

[brave oriole]

@crisp bay ainz win pretty easy this stage

@cursive cloak this its lucretia stage

[cursive cloak]

I used both already

[brave oriole]

Yeah, you shouldn't, 60 r4 need lucretia

U can try 5x pull still

[regal valve]

Need help, grez kills everyone

[brave oriole]

@regal valve try to charm ferael with Nemora

[regal valve]

ah thats rng right, or i need to put nemora somewhere specific

[brave oriole]

@crisp bay my alt passed with this, used thoran on r1

[regal valve]

its hard af to charm ferael

[brave oriole]

Middle, opposite side of ferael, and yeah, restart if didn't charmed

[regal valve]

it charms grez and niru

[brave oriole]

She can charm grez niru or ferael from this position, rng

[regal valve]

and when it does charm ferael he is charmed for like 5 sec

[brave oriole]

Yeah, but he hits his team with the ghosts

[regal valve]

ye my team doesnt survive that long xD

[brave oriole]

Try lyca instead of your ferael, even if elite or so

And, I don't know about ainz, he may not be great that early, without albedo etc

[regal valve]

its like just 1 more day and i get albedo

[crisp bay]

Thanks man, I can try this comp aswell and cheese on 1st. So far I've tried cheese, Ainz comp and Alna Grez on 3rd but no luck, I can pass the 4 other round but not the 3rd I am getting mad lol. I'll give it a try, thanks !

[noble crag]

How to beat it

[regal valve]

but she will not be si 30 tho, i dont have even to SI20 her

[regal valve]

also he is my only carry tbh

[brave oriole]

I would use shem still, she's very strong Frontline still, leave ainz for later