lineup-help

[pale kettle]

@brave oriole

[deft veldt]

O

[brave oriole]

Do you have lyca?@pale kettle

[deft veldt]

Ty

[brave oriole]

Np👍

[pale kettle]

No

[brave oriole]

Not even one poor elite?

[pale kettle]

No

[brave oriole]

Uff. Well, replace arden with ferael, Btw, Brutus?

[pale kettle]

No

[brave oriole]

Try to get one copy of Brutus lyca fawkes

Fawkes and Brutus are fine elite for a long time, lyca can go ascended

[pale kettle]

@brave oriole

[brave oriole]

Aha, swap daimon rowan

[pale kettle]

I've got no gems

[brave oriole]

Not now, but to be there in your wishlist

For one copy

[pale kettle]

They on it been on it

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle it was a wrong msg with wukong, put rowan. And Btw, can you take a ss of daimon gear etc?

[pale kettle]

@brave oriole

[modern portal]

Any tips on this one?

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle OK, I don't like this mirael In your team. Move ferael middle, and put nara top to pull mirael. So replace mirael with nara, and swap with ferael position

@modern portal tips, mhm, try Backline rowan ainz daimon, front Lucius with call and lyca

[pale kettle]

@brave oriole

[modern portal]

Got it, I'll give that a go thank you :)

[brave oriole]

If ainz can survive to athalia , all good

If not, u put lyca there and hope for a dodge

@pale kettle okay, try tasi instead of silvina and see if she survives

[pale kettle]

@brave oriole

[brave oriole]

Is daimon close to kill any?

[modern portal]

Ah neither of those worked, athalia keeps wiping me out. Dyou think if I put a regen hero (like brutus or thoran) right across from athalia, they might fare better?

[brave oriole]

Honestly? @modern portal I would try without ainz at all. U can stop athalia, pretty sure, back in time ive used arden to root .

[modern portal]

Who would you replace ainz with? Should I try shem?

[brave oriole]

I would try without ainz, so try and see if it works better, Lucius rowan, ferael safiya daimon. I personally like dura's call on Lucius, chalice on rowan

[modern portal]

I dont think I have safiya but I might have ferael

[brave oriole]

Yeah, shem it's still good, just need rosaline. Ainz won't shine until albedo si +20+ etc

I mean lyca, not safiya, my bad. Use duras grace on lyca,

And restart until she dodge on the beginning

[modern portal]

I think something might be keeping her from dodging, she has chains around her in the beginning

[high marlin]

That would be arden

[modern portal]

Hm I see, so i need something that stops him from doing that first so that lyca can dodge

[scarlet kraken]

Who knows more abt line up here?

[high marlin]

Unless you pull him with Nara I doubt you can stop him

[modern portal]

Hm I'll keep trying with the stuff you guys told me and see if anything works

[high marlin]

You can always check afk helper too

[modern portal]

What's that?

[brave oriole]

Some site where's ppls wins posted @modern portal

Never seen it tho, but lots are talking about it

[modern portal]

I just looked it up, seems helpful yeah

[visual wedge]

Help plz

[midnight bronze]

No daimon in sight

[pale kettle]

u are using a comp thats like 2 years old, thats the biggest problem. Highly reccomend u read the pinned guides in questions and as for comp, maybe try getting rid of belinda or shemira, put brutus frontline and shemira backline

[maiden vapor]

I would swap Belinda for daimon

If u still have the swap scroll

[scarlet kraken]

Is Mezoth worth it? 👀

[brave oriole]

For late game, yeah

But there's priorities on hypo, luc a, khaz and mehira to m etc

[zinc maple]

who do I use this on, I was gonna do shemira for lurectia but then I realised you can't do cele/hypo

[brave oriole]

Save it for later

[zinc maple]

that's what I was thinking

[candid flint]

God im getting wreck

[pale kettle]

Nope

[formal reef]

what could i change in my team too beat it

[pale kettle]

Can anyone help me with my PvP comps for legends championship?

[pale kettle]

hmm, looks like u can run ainz bedo, GB, cant run burst so maybe alna luc cycle, some kind of stall type team and not sure what 5th would be

[gilded hill]

Idk what should i put my lineup as for the regular battle cause i still don't know how it works for some reason TvT

[pale kettle]

My legends championship is only 4 teams this round. @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

ah then hopefully that should work

Any stall recommendations?

stall is almost certainly going to lose but maybe try it with talane, thoran, zikis, theown and a flex spot?

[deft veldt]

What hero’s will make a good PvE lineup?

[pale kettle]

@pale kettle

How bad does this look?

[pale kettle]

grez instead of izold, daimon frontline and then silas, fera, hodgekin/oden backline

Hard to choose between hodge/oden

[pale kettle]

hmm not too sure on the exact order of backline as Im not very familier with hodgekin. Also in alna luc cycle, its alna luc frontline and backline is the cycle aspect although not sure if tasi is in it as well or not since my brain is running on 2h of sleep rn

[vestal sentinel]

I need help

[pale kettle]

Ok I got it, this is what I’m vsing

[pale kettle]

Lol I’m stuck on this one too

[foggy grove]

You should be able to clear that with luc 5 pull

[pale kettle]

Luc 5 pull?

[foggy grove]

Yes

[foggy grove]

With queen

[pale kettle]

Who should I have instead of ezio?

[topaz mesa]

Not sure what to try here. The current arrangement was just me screwing around.

[pale kettle]

I’m still new so I don’t have ezio

[topaz mesa]

If that's "new" I'm not sure what I am.

[foggy grove]

Oh mb, I thought the other pic you posted was your roster

[pale kettle]

New as in I’m too new to have been here for the events to get those heroes

[foggy grove]

$

[rigid imp]

have you tried eironn in the middle instead of nara and brutus tank in front of daimon instead of thoran ?

[foggy grove]

You can try charm

[pale kettle]

oh my, hate to be a pessamist but u prolly lost

[pale kettle]

Lol yes probably, this is my servers super whale.

[topaz mesa]

That did work, though I'm not sure why since eironn died nearly instantly. Thanks, though.

[pale kettle]

unfortunate, is this for group stage or ro64?

[pale kettle]

Ro64

[pale kettle]

ah, well at least you will get the frame then so no real harm

Yeah I wanted to put in a good shot so next time I can build on it. I think I’ll eventually out whale him

[rigid imp]

eironn job is to suck in (when not in 5 pull he won't survive for too long) so he can die as long as he done the suck

[topaz mesa]

Ah. Interesting. Thanks. 🙂

Still figuring things like that out.

[pale kettle]

ah, well good luck. The teams ur opponent has built are teams that you will eventually want to have built urself has well

[vestal sentinel]

Anyone have a good line up for 36-48. For the 5 teams

[pale kettle]

try afkhelper

[pale kettle]

A good lineup for guild hunting? Atm I'm using Saurus (merc), Brutus, Shemira, Rowan, Twins.

[signal canopy]

Guessing the Saurus is +30? If not a healer instead of Brutus. You don't need Brutus so use Rosa.

[pale kettle]

Yeah, Saurus is fully maxed. Rosa following Saurus?

[signal canopy]

If she lives if not then see who else works best

[warm yew]

;-;

[winter oracle]

currently stuck at chapter 7-2 and im unsure as to which units to use/level
any help would be appreciated!

[signal canopy]

Wukong to 100 with all support heroes

[winter oracle]

which specific support heroes?

[signal canopy]

Your choice but I would pick Lucius Arden Silas and Numisu from what you have. Will have to redo your team past level 100

[craggy tinsel]

hi kinda new player here, don't rly know how to build comps. any suggestions?

[grand perch]

Hello @craggy tinsel,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[astral jay]

This should be your team
Arden
Wukong
Rowan
Daimon
Silas

[winter oracle]

thank you! @astral jay

[astral jay]

Should use this
Rosa
Wukong
Rowan
Mezoth
Shemira

Lvl wukong 100

[craggy tinsel]

okayy thank you!! elijah and lailah i heard are very good tho, when should i start using them?

[astral jay]

They aren't good for compaign...

[craggy tinsel]

oh i see, thank you so much!!

[astral jay]

You should read pins in #classic-questions ... Saying twins are good is misleading new player... So you should always ask multi players for single question.

[craggy tinsel]

oh okay, got it. thank you!

[astral jay]

Np

[fiery wing]

replace brutus with rosa, replace shem with belinda

[pale kettle]

Thanks!

[noble crag]

What setup should i go for

[pale kettle]

Currently stuck should i just wait or is it possible?

[copper stratus]

How should I do this stage

[lyric vault]

not entirely sure but try totem dude in back and just try cause if you get close you can probs just get it if you keep going

[acoustic summit]

Heeeelp I’m stuck on last level of chap10

[zinc maple]

anyone got a clue?

[tulip dagger]

Any ideas?

[rigid imp]

maybe put rosaline at frontline so she run back and estrilda can kick kelthur out

[tulip dagger]

Belinda gets the thoran tain and dies pretty fast

[pale kettle]

It's an even numbered stage, get a merc
A strong Lucius, Estrilda or Belinda

[tulip dagger]

Manage to kill baden sometimes but the others never
Okay might try a belinda lets see what my friends got.. thanks :)

[hard forge]

Merc a thick Belinda, super easy

[arctic sierra]

Any ideas for campaign pushing? I’m pretty new so I don’t have a lot of knowledge on who’s good

[tulip dagger]

Please check the pins in #classic-questions the amount of L heroes hurts..
Set up your wishlists and try to get a daimon

Possible team comp could be grez thoran front, lyca eiron shemira back
You got 6 heroes levelled btw you only need 5

[noble crag]

What setup should i go for

[ebon hazel]

Merc a 203 Belinda

That should be the winning team, either that or drop Gwen and put Hendrik in the bottom

[tulip dagger]

Will take a merc, hendrik just sucks 😂

[ebon hazel]

Your Hendrik sucks*

[acoustic summit]

Good campaign team please. Ignore zikis he is trial hero

[zenith basin]

Hi everyone! Just one question please, does somebody knows what is inside this chest? My Japanese is terrible 😓

[acoustic summit]

Change language to English in settings

Profile > Settings > Language

[zenith basin]

Japanese app is completely separated from the world servers 😢

Doesn’t have any language options, just Japanese

They have their own, offers and different events

[candid prairie]

hey, what do you guys think i should be running instead of these heroes ? i'm running thoran/daimon/shemira/ferael/rowan for now but i don't know if i have something better than what i use rn

[zenith basin]

Thank you for answering though @acoustic summit

Any clue about what’s inside that chest?

[acoustic summit]

It is a paid offer btw do you really wanna buy it

[zenith basin]

I’m thinking about it, just to push a bit

[acoustic summit]

Reset wukong he not good after he gets to lvl 100

[zenith basin]

And stargaze a bit

[acoustic summit]

I wouldn’t recommend spending money kinda ruins the game

[zenith basin]

What do you mean ruins the game?

[candid prairie]

wukong is in the crystal

[acoustic summit]

Kinda makes it less enjoyable

[acoustic summit]

Take him off now, you can put a better hero in

[zenith basin]

I just started playing and wanted to have a bit of a good…ish team, not crazy spending

But I get what you mean

[pale kettle]

Does somebody have any ideas or is this how far i can go rn

[runic birch]

Sup, what would be the preferred lineup looking at what i have? i started playing recently so don't rly know much about lineups.. all help appreciated 🙂

[acoustic summit]

Before posting you might want to read pins in #classic-questions thoroughly. It just has so much useful information for beginners

[runic birch]

oo nice will check it out

[acoustic summit]

Please guys help been stuck on it for ages now

[pale kettle]

[fiery wing]

i think its a weapon choice chest

[dusty snow]

I'm getting SPANKED my team just dies so fast and idk what to do

[barren zealot]

Thoran isn’t generating any energy. He’s wearing boots, weapon, and call. What do I change?

[pale kettle]

Pippa si20, read it

[tender finch]

What are good supports for three legendaries i have?

[dusty snow]

Two of the legendaries are supports lol

[tender finch]

I need more. My lizard is diyng

[pale kettle]

You do not own good supports desite the 2 LB
Ferael, Tasi, Mehira, Silas, Desira, Lyca

Keep trying or wait?

[barren zealot]

I don’t know what I’m supposed to read, but thanks for the help!

[dusty snow]

@pale kettle you could try replacing daimon with brutas and put daimon in the backline so he survives longer

[pale kettle]

Sure np. Make Pippa SI 20, no need to read. Sorry

[tender finch]

Ok thanks, i hope i will get some of them

[pale kettle]

Can someone explain why the same team comp suddenly worked

[royal stag]

Rng

[pale kettle]

Later u will have 200 tries for one stages with same lineup just for rng

Alright

[outer grove]

Help

[pale kettle]

Ferael
Brutus
Nara
Skreg
daimon
@outer grove

[outer grove]

Kay

Nop didnt work

[royal stag]

Try it atleast 10-20 times

[outer grove]

Everything dies in 1-5 secs

[pale kettle]

Lyca/Daimon
Rowna
Nara
Brutus
Daimon/Lyca
Or ferael for lyca

[outer grove]

Yesss it worked, thx

[pale kettle]

Mirael or Saveas early game? Until now i used daimon

[golden perch]

how many daimon copies? I did Mirael until 140ish when I could L+ daimon and it was fine. no experience with Saveas.

[pale kettle]

He’s at L and no copies

[regal aurora]

I’ve started recently, can someone tell me the best setup I can use with these

[golden perch]

so u probably shouldn't have taken him to L without copies for L+, but now you can take him to 140, push hard as you can until Mirael or Sav is L+ then reset daimon and make one of them 160 and keep pushing until you get a real carry L+/M

[regal aurora]

Is that to me?

[pale kettle]

No

[golden perch]

no to Valentin

[regal aurora]

Oh ok

[pale kettle]

Yeah it was a mistake i did before reading guides

[golden perch]

it's not too bad, lesson learned heh. but it may put you in a awkward spot where for example if you happen to have a bunch of some other GB copies like shemira now you cant L+ her right away. RNG is weird, i've had thoran on wishlist since i started. i have 0 copies, but have 9 daimons

and its entirely possible you wont see another daimon copy for awhile, etc

[warm swan]

@regal aurora https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcT34gPd9WS8Ivb9kZGmAP6qnoIzFFUUmyNETq1J_kg

[wet nexus]

Okay. So I'm using M+ Daimon, Gwenyth, and Pippa. Then I'm using a L Brutus , L+ Rowan. I have a L+ Mirael, that I could feed to my Rowan to become M. However, I don't know what is the better team lineup. Basically, is Rowan > Mirael? What would you do? Thanks!

[pale kettle]

I reset before reading should i go for Mirael carry or evenly lvl up and should i change rc heroes

[golden perch]

Nah keep using Daimon. Reset and pump him to max. He can go to 140 so he should be fine. i'm guessing 140 daimon will be better than 160 Mirael anyway. then see what other copies you get for a bit and reasses

[pale kettle]

Alright thx

[wet nexus]

So I'm using M+ Daimon, Gwenyth, and Pippa. Then I'm using a L Brutus , L+ Rowan. I have a L+ Mirael, that I could feed to my Rowan to become M. However, I don't know what is the better team lineup. Basically, is Rowan > Mirael? What would you do?

[golden perch]

I do think Rowan > Mirael. Early game you would want to hold on taking to M without enough copies to A, unless it is a carry because your focus is on getting to 5 A heroes as soon as possible. however, you can make an exception for Rowan, M unlocks his signature item which at SI30 is the best SI out there, so it's worth taking him to M and work on the SI over time. he's also a top tier support so fits into your team comp better. Mirael is just fodder at this point

[wet nexus]

Thx

[pale kettle]

Need team. Who is Best? Any help ?

Same boat

[red fable]

Mainly it's the second team that I need help with since I use ainz comp in the first battle and the third battle almost anything works

[pale kettle]

any ideas how i can beat this shit?

[red fable]

Thoran rowan
Lorsan eironn nara

Should work with maybe a couple dozen to hundreds of tries

[pale kettle]

like that?

all of my team dies in 10 seconds like that

[red fable]

Oh you dont have thoran sig

[pale kettle]

ye

idk should i use daimon as a carry then?

[red fable]

Ok then try this
Alna brutus
Daimon rowan ferael

[pale kettle]

hmm after my whole team died my daimon got killed in 5 seconds

[golden perch]

@pale kettle stop making heroes Legendary without copies for L+. Also save your fodder as long as you can, until you can raise a hero to ascended (8 copies of it). It's all about level caps. Try to follow this guide. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcT34gPd9WS8Ivb9kZGmAP6qnoIzFFUUmyNETq1J_kg/edit - You can level the rest of your legendaries up to 120 for now. But you will want to reset and use the lineup suggested in there to break past the 140 level cap

[pale kettle]

Why stop ascending them up when i have the ability to?

[red fable]

Try and get more mythic+ heroes and raise your level cap @pale kettle

[royal stag]

Maybe merc chicken with 3f and use 5pull

[pale kettle]

hmm i could make my nara to mythic with using grezhul as food but i wouldn´t have enough HE to get my daimon to 201

[royal stag]

Hell no

[red fable]

Dont use grez as food

[pale kettle]

ye

yes i only started getting grezhul up recently

[golden perch]

Because ascending them costs 2 E+ fodder, which is a scarce resource better spent on a Legendary tier hero (Hogan Arden Golus Silvina Mirael) that you will naturally get more copies of, thus able to have a higher level overall for your heroes on the resonating crystal and help break level caps faster. Once you find your carry that you can get L+ (Daimon/Eironn/Shemira/couple of others too those are good ones to look out for) then you use them. You also want those legendary tier heroes at L+ because when you want to get your first few heroes to Mythic, they need a L+ fodder.

[pale kettle]

Is there any way to beat this? I'm starting to feel a bit underleveled

[royal stag]

Maybe rowan und Brutus frontline and ainz, nara and albedo backline

Any emblems left ?

[pale kettle]

That worked, thanks!
I don't have many emblems left btw. I've got Ainz to +20 and Albedo to +10, now I'm out of gold emblems

[royal stag]

Dont invest in shemira

[pale kettle]

I know, Shemira was a terrible idea

[dull flame]

Also, lvls don't matter too much, later on the enemies start increasing their lvls like 5 per stage, you can't catch up to that rate, so keeping up with meta teams is the best idea.

[onyx knot]

Im stuck in LB and mauler towers, i need to get to 280 asap to unlock the last faction tower star. Which heroes should I focus on building?

[dull flame]

Tidus to +20 and 3/9, and kren to +30 will help. Brutus at +20 and 3/9 can make him tank longer too. Skriath +30 will also be needed eventually

For lightbearers get morrow, looking at the lowest winning formation and afk helper/YouTube works well too

[onyx knot]

Gonna take a long ass time to get enough copies of him for A

[high marlin]

Peggy is good too

Even then you're gonna struggle with both towers bc they suck

[dull flame]

Standard gwyn Rosa works for now, but you'll need hendrik sometimes

[dull flame]

Tbh mauler tower is fine now with kren

[umbral whale]

need help on this one. thanks, I can post my box if needed but those are the only heroes in my rc

[dull flame]

Nara
Thoran
Fereal
Daimon
Silas

[high marlin]

Yeah but I've seen posts where the enemy comps in mauler tower are way worse than gb and wilder

[wintry grotto]

I’m kinda stuck on chapter 12

[dull flame]

Send a screnshot lol

[dull flame]

True, wild and gb are 20+ ahead of the other 2 for me

[wintry grotto]

This is my team the top 5 and it’s pretty hard to do chapter 12 with them

[umbral whale]

i tried this one, saveas stomps daimon. The idea of my current lineup is to stop them from doing anything. nara ccs isabella, tasi banishes vedan and arden roots 2. rowan doesnt take as much damage, I got to the point where it was daimon, rowan, tasi vs vedan but he beat me

[wintry grotto]

Idk how to get more exp

[dull flame]

Spam retries

[dull flame]

You wait and progress when you can

[umbral whale]

damn it worked, needed perfect rng tho, basically everyone except golus perma ccd

[dull flame]

Good job, feel free to dm me if you ever need help

[umbral whale]

Thanks! Do you think I can make it past 12-40 with my current team? This is actually not my main team, just used it for this specific stage. My main team is daimon, hogan/thoran, oden,silas, ferael/nara/rowan. and the team power is about 215k

[dull flame]

You should...daimon is solid. If he gets one shot easily, move him backline and put thoran in front of him.

[umbral whale]

yeah i'll have to make it work past 12-40, if i do that I get a M daimon and i have some emblems for his sig

[onyx knot]

Thanks

[dull flame]

Take him to 30

[umbral whale]

Ok 👍 I'll buy the red chests from upcoming events as well

[dull flame]

Yes do that. Always go for red chests in events

[granite sable]

What should I power up to beat this team in campaign?

[dull flame]

Shem
Brutus
Rowan
Estrilda
Safyia

[granite sable]

Didn't work @dull flame

[strong aurora]

Am I just stuck til I can get higher lvl people

I'm new to the game but feel I made decent progress. But now I'm basically just waiting on hero xp and hero essence cuz I can't lvl up these people any higher

[slim portal]

No, but your investment is horrible

I would prefer to start a new account if you’re a f2p. Since you’re still in early stage of game.

[strong aurora]

That's what was given to me through playing

[slim portal]

No, you shouldn’t simply making everyone a legend

Those fodders are important to make your progression faster a lot, if put in good investment

You can pass this few stage, but you will hard stuck at Lv.140 for a very long time until you have more fodder and/or E+ of those hero

But still, those aren’t a good choice of carry….

[golden perch]

@strong aurora read https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcT34gPd9WS8Ivb9kZGmAP6qnoIzFFUUmyNETq1J_kg/edit

[strong aurora]

I planned on making grentzul to mythic first and I'm close to that

And ira I was gonna use as fodder once I could

[golden perch]

Then you wanna pick a good carry, and the other 4 you level are Legendary tier (4 of Hogan, Golus, Arden, Silvina, Mirael)

[strong aurora]

The others I thought were good heros

[golden perch]

Ideally you end up like this: 160 L+ Daimon, 120 Hogan/Golus/Arden/Silvina

Then 140 those guys, mythic Daimon (or whatever carry you use), and continue.. eventually the Legendary tier get turned into L+ fodder for turning real heroes into Mythic

It's not a question of if they are good or not, it's that it's too early to invest in raising too many Ascended tier heroes. You pick one and only one early on (carry) and work on them

Keep in mind EVERY Legendary ascension you are spending E+ fodder, which is a scarce resource

[strong aurora]

Ah well I initially downloaded the game from an offerwall of another game. Where the objective was to make 8 legendary heros

[golden perch]

Yeah no worries mate, almost everyone here (me too) made this mistake. its the #1 advice for new players 🙂

It's not too late to correct, you are still early on

[strong aurora]

I don't need to restart my account?

[slim portal]

A new account with right investment, especially one with daimon as carry (4 copies of daimon), will catch up your current progress in no time

[strong aurora]

It took me 8 or 9 days to get here with this setup

[golden perch]

If it was me, I'd keep the account, but I'm stubborn. true it may be faster to restart due to all the early on campaign/afk code bonuses

[runic garden]

Positioning? Also thoran not 9/9, i need to suicide 5* call someone right? @vocal sluice

[strong aurora]

How about diamonds. Does that guide go over best uses

[golden perch]

No it's mostly about how to level your heroes

[worldly apex]

i wouldnt restart, go read the guide by tree3 in #classic-questions
it covers everything you could want to know, the visual guide by pheonix pinned there also has an updated wishlist

[runic garden]

@strong aurora just buy 2700 pulls until you unlock 3000 HCP pulls

[golden perch]

Tree3 guide is cover that and everything else https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZLSDhbeAwX8_RU9nJL8RG3oWA0D10QEjuSWpMxx8zg/edit

yeah just buy 2700 10x pulls, spend faction scrolls on GB u'll be golden

and set up wishlist like this guide says to

you actually got good heroes, they are just not leveled properly. so take a few days to fix it up and you'll be fine

[slim portal]

I did mentioned restart account if being a f2p btw, it’s easy and faster to catch up if getting the 2.7k x 10 for sure

[strong aurora]

Will that guide tell me how to fix my current situation

Yeah I'm currently f2p. Not sure I want to whale on 2 mobile games atm lol

[golden perch]

restart account is probably good advice

[slim portal]

No worries, it’s a beginner common mistakes. You can keep your account, it just takes longer time to catch up progress

[golden perch]

but you aren't unfixable, if you decide to keep the account.

[slim portal]

Nobody competing with you in an idle game (except PvP

[strong aurora]

Will that guide tell me how to correct my situation

Or an idea of what to do. Like I said I'm super new and just been randomly playing

[golden perch]

Yes

[slim portal]

The guide gives an overall picture from early to intermediate level of game. Basically a good guide to avoid bad investment like you did xD

Every bad investment slowing down your progress, but you’re still in very early stage of game.

[stark raft]

Have I made any bad investments?

[faint current]

Yes. Saurus and Daimon are stuck at L until you can luck into more copies.

You should ascend a 3-ability wilder (Arden), graveborn, and mauler next.

[stark raft]

Rip

[faint current]

Mirael was a great ascend though

[stark raft]

So I should ascend the legendary dudes first?

[golden perch]

Good news is Saurus and Daimon are great heroes you just picked the wrong time to ascend them 😄

[stark raft]

Mmm

[faint current]

Yes

[slim portal]

Just minor issue, you need only 1 more copy of daimon to make him L+

He’s the best carry for early game

[dull flame]

Tho daimon works at low ascensions so it's fine

[stark raft]

I see…

Thank you for the insight

[dull flame]

Mereal can be foddered to rowan when he's L+ too

[stark raft]

Should I reset her first or?

[dull flame]

No, L+ have a 160 lvl cap, L have cap of 140 so you're fine for now

I would get daimon to 121 tho...

[stark raft]

Lemme collect more powder

[dull flame]

Reseting sauras is also an option

[stark raft]

To level up the other ones on my resonating crystal

Well I mean I kinda have a bias towards him

[dull flame]

Well you won't later

[stark raft]

Time to reset

[weary narwhal]

Looking to make a comp for pvp/pve, I typically am running Rosalind, Rowan, daimon, thoran, Brutus but I’ve got more ascended now & my Arthur is +23 so I’d like to try a new comp, I also just got ascended ainz

[dull flame]

You're not ready for ainz pvp, no albedo. Get skriath to 3/9 and do 5 pull for pvp. Same thing for pve.

[weary narwhal]

5pull is supports around eironn/skriath?

[ebon hazel]

Tidus Safiya and Lyca

[faint current]

Mostly. Some versions add another carry, such as Lucretia or Thoran

[ebon hazel]

Lyca and Saf can be E, Tidus would be a carry, can be replaced with Lucretia or someone else

[weary narwhal]

Who would I replace tides with? I have gotten literally 2 copy of him lol

[ebon hazel]

Tidus has probably fallen out of meta
Don't think you have any good ones to carry.

[weary narwhal]

Saurus not rly viable but I ascend izold very soon

[ebon hazel]

Izold can't 5p

[weary narwhal]

I guess I can try thoran as @faint current said

[faint current]

The comp with Thoran is a cheese comp and is a bit more advanced to use

[ebon hazel]

Honestly what you might try to do, Skriath Saurus Safiya Eiron Pippa, Pippa needs SI20

Probably inconsistent as hell, but it will do better than most other options if Saurus has good gear.
.

[weary narwhal]

I do have an ascended scroll that I theoretically could use on my Brutus since he is just an Invuln bot & I need one more copy until he’s ascend

So if I needed to pick up a savior pick I can I guess

[ebon hazel]

Ascended scroll?

[weary narwhal]

The transfer scroll

[noble crag]

How to beat it

[ebon hazel]

Yeah don't use that, it's really valuable

[ebon hazel]

Drop Rowan for Arden, and Shemira for Daimon

[slim portal]

Mirael

Brutus
Rowan
Wu kong
Spider girl
Highly recommended to read beginner guide in pinned message in #classic-questions

[ebon hazel]

He's past the level that I'd use wuk

[slim portal]

Should have focus on Arden instead of the bow guy

[ebon hazel]

Bow is Ira, Spiker is Ankhira

[slim portal]

Doesn’t matter, as long as wu Kong doesn’t die in few seconds

Otherwise the girl on horse is quite good too

[dull flame]

estrilda? not really

I've used her once, and that was for thoran cheese

[slim portal]

I meant in his box against 8-32

[dull flame]

well, a lyca would be better as a booster

[noble crag]

Ur clearly boss man chapter cleared

[dull flame]

ayo shouldn't mereal be in the middle for that aoe damage?

[noble crag]

Same comp?

[dull flame]

you have lyca?

[slim portal]

It would be much easier with Arden

[vapid jungle]

pls help im stuck there

[dull flame]

imagine putting daimon against estrilda....

[noble crag]

Yep

[dull flame]

try this:
lyca
wu kong
mereal
brutus
rowan

[noble crag]

Didnt worked

[vapid jungle]

still stuck that the other dude i have

[dull flame]

did you not see my previous reply?

[slim portal]

Rowan

Daimon
Fareal
Thoran
That GB masked boy

[dull flame]

swap position of lyca and rowan

[vapid jungle]

i dont have wukong on crystal

[vapid jungle]

i tried this one

[noble crag]

Still lose

[dull flame]

I mean don't put daimon against estrilda, just move him to other side... @vapid jungle

[dull flame]

retry it

[slim portal]

Is your Lyca level 1? = =

[noble crag]

Lvl 100

[golden perch]

Daim

Brutus
Rowan/Arden
Thoran
Ferael/Arden

[slim portal]

Make sure Fareal haunted the opponent side first

[golden perch]

yeah dont put daimon down there

[vapid jungle]

k that mean i dont run on automatic? i usually do

[slim portal]

Auto, but retry a few times

[noble crag]

Worked tysm

[dull flame]

np

[slim portal]

So he will cast haunted before mirael cancel him

[noble crag]

Last boss

[vapid jungle]

i must be over my head, nothing seem to work i get smash bad

[slim portal]

Or easier, Nara hook mirael

[golden perch]

if you have oden, i have been liking him w/ daimon. he can pull the frontliner away and let daimon get to backline (move estrilda up for example)

[noble crag]

Nvm still comp working haha

[slim portal]

Rowan

Daimon
Nara
Thoran
GB masked boy

[vapid jungle]

silas

[dull flame]

you need to learn how to make a team yourself, otherwise you can never get better

[vapid jungle]

tks last build finally worked 🙂

[slim portal]

Fareal is overall better, but Nara is good when opponent team has one core damage dealer only

[vapid jungle]

good im learning alot 🙂 tks

[noble crag]

Btw is wu kong worth upgrading to le?

[slim portal]

No

I used him until level 100 and ditched

Highly recommended to read beginner guide in pinned message in #classic-questions

You should have at least an E+ Arden now…

[dull flame]

nice in cele tower tho

[slim portal]

Instead of the Ira bow guy, you need only 1 carry mirael

But f2p or low dolphin can’t stargazing everyone

[dull flame]

well you really only need lucretia and alna ascended, while working on zolrath from store, and getting khaz to mythic through events

[slim portal]

Faction tower doesn’t give high enough for those investment

[dull flame]

I got luc and alna ascended, as well as khaz to L+ and zolath to L in 9 months casually, it's possible

[noble crag]

What comp ive done all but this makes all hard

[wise zealot]

is this the lab?

[noble crag]

Its depths of time

[slim portal]

Borrow signature item 30 lizard man / daimon from your friend and it should be easy

[noble crag]

Any other chances?

[dull flame]

bruh just merc a shemira

[slim portal]

You’re free to use your short-term borrowed hero in peak of time

Basically, borrow damage dealer instead of tank/support

[slim portal]

Most of them can solo carry you the whole level in early chapters of peak of time

[pale kettle]

Or steal a lucretia that’s what I do anyway

[slim portal]

Lyca

Thoran
Rowan
Daimon
Fareal

[pale kettle]

Do u have any artifact suggestions?

[slim portal]

Depends if your thoran dead in 1 second, then give him defensive

Most important is rowan and daimon with call

[zinc maple]

can anyone help me?

[noble crag]

Wow mireal is so op she can literaly onr shot everybody

[pale kettle]

Surprisingly thoran gets murdered second to last

[slim portal]

Does it work?

[pale kettle]

No Eziz dies but everyone else kills me

[zinc maple]

she doesn't, and it's not rng either. I've tried at least 100 times

[noble crag]

And btw is solise worth upgrading to legendary?

[slim portal]

Did your rowan survived long enough to skill? Or assassin girl killed you in one hit?

[pale kettle]

Ult no

[zinc maple]

there is definitely more priority in wilders

[slim portal]

Fareal should have haunted assassin girl right? Wait, is your rowan SI20?

[noble crag]

Like lyca?

[pale kettle]

Rowan sI 26

Working on +30

[dull flame]

rowan better get to 30

[zinc maple]

tasi, lyca, raku, eiornn, pippa, saurus(for twisted realm)

[pale kettle]

I may be poor though

[slim portal]

Did you retry several times?

[dull flame]

there may be an event tho

like seriously, an event

[zinc maple]

anyone?

[dull flame]

put mereal in the center with graveborns

[pale kettle]

Mhm

The board looks like this

[slim portal]

Ye, your rowan too fragile for some reason

[slim portal]

Wait, is your daimon SI20 and 3f yet?

[zinc maple]

mireal takes too long to ult

[dull flame]

you have no one else

[zinc maple]

ik 😕

[slim portal]

Rowan

Lyca
Daimon
Thoran
Fareal
Try this

[golden perch]

Tower of Light 51, lineup change help at all or am I just under leveled?

Eh I've been playing with formations, this one had Rowan out front for some reason

[slim portal]

Rowan needs mystic to go front

Or he dead in seconds

[golden perch]

Ok tyvm 30th try just won, lol, just swapped Hendrik and Rowan

[slim portal]

Mystic with high signature level items makes his survivability strong, and he starts stunning everyone in sight

[golden perch]

Idk why even, my team was melting in 5sec every other run

[slim portal]

Grats, rowan is really good in front line when has high signature item

[golden perch]

these towers are fun, getting to learn these LB mechanics. i only played GB before this

[slim portal]

Can you put tanks in frontline?

[pale kettle]

Daimon dies faster

[slim portal]

Nara

Daimon
Rowan
Wukong
Arden/Oden

[whole bramble]

Oden

Silvina
Mirael
Daimon
Rowan
is what Id try

[slim portal]

Because you didn’t resonate any tank

[golden perch]

Try to pull Mirael with Nara, or get Oden to move Estrilda down

[noble crag]

What i can change im stuck

[pale kettle]

[pale kettle]

As soon as nara pulls her she just dies

[grand perch]

Hello @noble crag,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels.

[slim portal]

This is a tough level
Lycan

Brutus
Rowan
Girl on horse
Mirael

Try to learn to build a team yourself, we can’t help every single level

And you really needs Arden to help when opponent has multiple damage dealer, especially assassin girl

[pale kettle]

@slim portal my tanks

[pale kettle]

I've tried it for 5 days g

[strong badge]

Place eironn on the resonating crystal and remove lyca for him he'll pull Isabella or you can put nemora on the crystal to charm Isabella

[slim portal]

I meant another person, and your level isn’t tough
Retry few times until your Nara knock mirael down first

[strong badge]

Try this

[slim portal]

Or Oden instead of Nara, if your Nara kept dying in few hits

[strong badge]

Try something like this and get oden to teleport estrillda

[deft veldt]

Can’t pass this stage, what lineup should I use?

[pale kettle]

@strong badge I beat it. Tasi wit da carry

[pale kettle]

Yes

[slim portal]

Rowan

Lyca
Daimon
Thoran
Fareal
This comp work? Putting Lyca in front line

[acoustic summit]

Lineup help pls im stuck

Hypogean mages and Isabelle wipe the whole team no matter what I use

[slim portal]

Basically take down Isabella in prior and crowd control vampire guy
Zikis

Daimon
Mirael
Brutus
Arden
If your daimon dead in seconds, try to switch to other good tank

[acoustic summit]

Gah I still got rekt

[slim portal]

I can’t give any advice if too little info

Daimon dying too fast? Did Arden tackles Isabella? Did Mirael uses her ultimate?

[acoustic summit]

What else do you need

[acoustic summit]

Daimon died ultra fast, Arden tackled nothing, mirael couldn’t ult

[slim portal]

Basically nothing works

[acoustic summit]

Yeah that’s about right

[slim portal]

Daimon

Centaur guy
Nara
Brutus
Zikis

Make sure to give them equipment, so they don’t dead in seconds

[acoustic summit]

I gave all equipment, and it was really good until hypogean mage killed all 5

[slim portal]

https://afk.guide/redemption-codes/
Redeem all codes, pull more in tavern, makes a legend mirael and level her to 140

[acoustic summit]

Alr did all codes

[zealous iron]

Help 😔

[acoustic summit]

Actually I’ll spam unrelenting blaze and get tons of light bearer

Then I can get legend mirael and hogan by mass sacrificing Raines

[slim portal]

Basically your carry level is under-level to down their front line soon enough, when zikis and Nara given enough time.

[acoustic summit]

Well I only can use zikis for half hour

He’s trial

[slim portal]

Arden is a good sub in, as long as he cast his darn tackles

[slim portal]

Do you no have ainz nor Albedo yet? Try
Nara

Daimon
Eironn
Rowan
Ferael

Opponent team doesn’t have strong burst damage dealer, daimon and rowan should be fine in front line

Should be good if rowan doesn’t dead in seconds, and manage to cast his ducks to stun

[zealous iron]

I could get ainz, but I was saving emblems for him

[slim portal]

Ainz and Albedo is pretty good duo at these intermediate chapters to late game

[zealous iron]

Formation worked by the way

[slim portal]

Especially when you have authur too

[zealous iron]

yeah I am almost able to fully get him

[slim portal]

Save for Albedo, Albedo SI30 first

[ember belfry]

Need help on this, my daimon keeps getting banished by tasi

[rigid imp]

use nara to pull tasi so daimon won't get banish at the start

[pale kettle]

Btw it doesn’t

[chilly glen]

I forgot there name but the lion mauler tank, is thoran a better tank or the mauler better?

[rigid imp]

both can be use for different stage and different situations

[pale kettle]

I did win with this though

[slim portal]

Sry, maybe required some trial and error to make it works. To be honest I myself was lazy and just Ainz Albedo cheese it.
This website is a good reference when you stuck on certain level.
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=25&stage=32

Feel free to upload yours too, to help others

It’s harder to make it precise on later stages, because people have different elder tree level and/or SI, furniture level difference

[slim portal]

This is the lowest level I found in afkhelper and similar to your setup

Idk furniture and SI level tho

But should be good, as long as your daimon is SI203, rowan SI20~

[warm swan]

You can clearly see the furn and si there

[slim portal]

Me blind, no bulli

[warm swan]

[formal reef]

who should i switch wukong for

[slim portal]

rosaline, follows daimon

Zikis can takes Tasi spot too

There’re several formations that should work, but first it’s highly recommended to read beginner guide in pinned message in #classic-questions channel

[velvet belfry]

put in lyca instead of wukong and that formation will be fine

you should keep tasi, shes good for daimon.

also, stop making heroes L, and stop investing in lucius immediately. you could have built a 160 L+ Mirael with the fodder your wasting on him, and Lucius is honestly just a bad hero. i suggest reading the pins in #classic-questions, start leveling your fodder especially mirael @formal reef

[pale kettle]

Help please 😅

[devout jacinth]

help please

[pale kettle]

ascend your herosss

[devout jacinth]

how I do that

[pale kettle]

go to ranhorn

then temple of ascension

[devout jacinth]

thank youu

[slim portal]

Lyca/Spider girl

Wukong
Rowan
white hair tanned skin girl
Mirael

Also, highly recommended to read pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions

You should focus on 5 hero level only

4 fodder and Wukong only 100 then reset
5 fodder

[pale kettle]

okay

[manic goblet]

What would my best team be atm? And who should i work on next

[formal reef]

tysm

[velvet belfry]

go read pins in #classic-questions. stop making heroes Legendary. keep them at E+ until you can ascend them fully, with the exception of your main carry. your account is looking pretty set back from all the dead fodder and the fact youve ascended belinda and shemira before better champions. i suggest you go and really read through all those guides, reset champs and get mirael to L+ 160 as your carry while you work on pulling for better champs. give up on belinda, she is not good.

[manic goblet]

Alright i understand, ill start getting some fodder heros to 160 and on the crystal instead and save the ones im not doing that with until i have a good carry to get high up

[fiery wing]

i dont think that team will push further i rather restart and get a daimon than sacrificing for nothing aint no fun

[devout jacinth]

Pls help

[fleet nymph]

one tip is too look at the beginners guide pinned in the #classic-questions channel and show the stage your stuck on

[turbid minnow]

Best lineup to start out with from these units?

[fiery wing]

tasi

daimon
eirron
lucius
nara

for now

[fleet nymph]

I need help with thi stage

[craggy tinsel]

stuck in this level next picture is my heroes

[short owl]

What is best for me?

[noble crag]

Stuck on this

[fleet nymph]

I suggest looking at the beginner guide in pinned in #classic-questions

Any suggestions on how to beat this stage?

[cursive pendant]

Help please

[slim portal]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/the_brutal_citadel.php?floor=420

[noble crag]

How to beat it

[whole bramble]

@noble crag swap Silvina with estrilda and put lyca where silvina currently is instead of estrilda

[noble crag]

Ok i done it i just swapped silvinia to oden

Now i need help with this

[burnt folio]

hi i stucked on 15-40 for a week now, anyone can help me?

[burnt folio]

in my opinion at the early game daimon its op so if u have it i would recomend u putting it on the battlefield

[slim portal]

Can you at least post the stage and your box?

[burnt folio]

sure

[outer grove]

Possible?

[slim portal]

Those are some horrible investment, anyway
Silas

Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Eironn
Should be doable if your daimon doesn’t dead in seconds

[burnt folio]

so u suggest changing silas for brutus?

[slim portal]

What?

[burnt folio]

brutus for silas i mean

in the formation

[slim portal]

How long can your daimon withstand in front line? Level gaps is kinda huge to your average (60 level difference)

[slim portal]

It’s literally the lineup
Silas
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Eironn

Daimon with dura’s call

[burnt folio]

oh i thought this > meaned greater than

my bad

it doesnt seem doable to me after +10 try

[slim portal]

Did your daimon last long enough in field to ultimate?

[burnt folio]

yeah

twice in fact

[slim portal]

Ok, swap eironn position with rowan

[outer grove]

Daimon lasts like 13 secs in front line

[slim portal]

That’s pretty good, replace Fareal position with rowan

Daimon is the only carry in field, Nara probably dead right after hooked Isabella

[outer grove]

Yep :)

[slim portal]

Rowan helps daimon last longer in field for him to build up, if you have SI10 and 20

[burnt folio]

well is better than the last time since i achived to kill twice 3 ppl but still seems not doable

[outer grove]

So i need S20 first?

Still not there tho hes at 17

[slim portal]

He’s literally your only carry lol, SI20 and furniture 3f yes

Rowan should be 10 at least (best SI to go 30 btw)

[outer grove]

No i mean i still dont have the recource yet

Daimon's furni at 1 rn

If i got another one should i use red card?

[slim portal]

Did you killed Isabella?

[burnt folio]

nope

[slim portal]

Save it for others at higher floor lol

[outer grove]

Okay

[slim portal]

Daimon is fine at 3f which is pretty easy to archive, while some might need it for 8f or even 9f

[slim portal]

Basically all you needs to do is kill Isabella first

[burnt folio]

yeah but how thats the question

it doesnt die even if daimon ults twice

[slim portal]

Trial and error, I can’t keep helping to make every single adjustment. Try to replace Ferael with Arden

And make sure he entangles isabell and Fareal of opponent team

[burnt folio]

i will try

[fleet nymph]

Anyone can help me beat this?

[acoustic summit]

Please help stuck for 2 days now. Nothing seems to work

[cerulean moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/887298416340779028/Screenshot_2021-09-14-13-25-19-315_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/887298416718254080/Screenshot_2021-09-14-13-23-15-167_com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.jpg

How can I struggle less against those kind of comps?

[ember belfry]

Need help on this, I’m just getting obliterated

[ebon hazel]

Can't get Thoran to work anymore

[ebon hazel]

Tasi over Merlin and it should be fine.

[ebon hazel]

I do have a red card if 3 would make a difference

[amber halo]

Ezizh Thoran lorsan talene Pippa. And don't use blade on talene

[amber halo]

If they are not close enough to thoran it will otherwise no

My Thoran was 3/9 until 36-56

[ebon hazel]

Would it be worth the single card to 3?

Currently he's my last fight

[amber halo]

I would do it if u plan to thoran cheese. Cheese never worked for me before 3/9

But seraphic tide on talene is important to win the fight

[ebon hazel]

Had him on my begining wishlist and have only ever gotten 2 furn hopefully it helps

[amber halo]

Don't forget seraphic tide on talene or u won't win it

[burnt folio]

Finally putting farael i got it thank u very much

[amber halo]

Unless u have 5* call ofc

@ebon hazel

[ebon hazel]

Alright, getting Flora down sometimes, just need talene to kill Rowan slightly faster

[amber halo]

Rng does it at least it did for me

[ebon hazel]

How would seraph even help?

I got it consistent do a duel between Flora and Talene, cant get Thoran second ult off

[amber halo]

Haste for thoran. With blade neither me or my friends won it

Put seraphic tide on talene bro

[ebon hazel]

Is my talene supposed to be ulting?
She has a tide

[amber halo]

She is supposed to die twice

U will win with rng if u keep trying

[ebon hazel]

Still don't see how tide helps if she doesn't ult

[amber halo]

U can even check afk helper they use tide as well to win with 4* call 3/9 thoran. And u won't win with blade

U can use whatever I'm just saying it never worked for me without tide nor the friends i helped to clear it

[pale kettle]

Stage is pissin me off

[slim portal]

Arden

Daimon
Nara
Grezhul
Rowan

[pale kettle]

Tried 5 times

[slim portal]

why your daimon does like 2 damage, how long was he able to stands on frontline?

[pale kettle]

Like 2 seconds

[slim portal]

do you have brutus and thoran?

[pale kettle]

No bru

[slim portal]

cant give any proper advice when your front line dead in 2 seconds

[pale kettle]

He gets 1 ult off

[slim portal]

and your box literally has no other good tank

[pale kettle]

Blame rng

[slim portal]

nothing much i can do, the choices of front line is very limited

while opponent team has strong burst damage dealer

[solar kettle]

Any tips on how to beat this

[slim portal]

you can reference to this website
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=30&stage=60

[pale kettle]

Is this team good?

[slim portal]

don't level way too many hero, focus on 5 only
at early level, make sure wukong level is roughly 20 higher than the others
he will carry you until level 100

highly recommended to read pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions channel

[pale kettle]

Okay

[keen bluff]

Help please I also have accended saraus

[slim portal]

you can reference to here
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=21
just curious, where is your albedo SI30 and arthur xD

[keen bluff]

They aren’t mine I was using the borrowing feature

[slim portal]

you're right

[keen bluff]

Shit none of these comps work as In I don’t have the hero’s

[slim portal]

idk, their level way lower than yours

[keen bluff]

Yeh

[slim portal]

but you didn't invest much in daimon nor rowan

[keen bluff]

I just got daimon and haven’t had rowan for much longer then that

[slim portal]

at your level, ainz albedo comp should be good

[keen bluff]

Ok

[slim portal]

but might needs SI30 albedo

[keen bluff]

The problem is I don’t have albedo

[slim portal]

garisson both ainz and albedo

[keen bluff]

I’ll try to but I don’t think I can afford it

[slim portal]

you have merlin already, so you can use challenger coin too

saving labyrinth for arthur

[keen bluff]

I would have to spend 44000 lab coins for albedo and I don’t think that’s worth it

[slim portal]

try to ask expert in #classic-questions

i don't know if that's a good investment to exchange albedo

[vale dune]

I did 129k to the event boss, now I’m out of stamina. Should I put Saurus, Zapharel or anything else to the heroes?

Or just wait to get more mythic relics?

[slim portal]

Where’s your support, and do you have cele 5 yet?Show your box and artifact level in #882428635213078538 ,a lot AE veterans there

[vale dune]

I took and leveled rangers as the second class instead of supps this time. Even though the other way would work better Thanks for the channel recommendation! Didnt see it

[amber halo]

how to lose in 3 seconds

[robust arrow]

I lose in 3 seconds in chapter 15.. lol

[amber halo]

lol

[noble crag]

What comp for this

[amber halo]

3 variants of main teams u can use to maximize damage. lucretia grezhul mortas raine twins. OR lucretia saurus warek twins silas. Or lucretia saurus warek twins mortas. A better sub for raine is hodgkin. I did 2 billion in 1 attack to main boss

[ebon hazel]

How long does the 36-48-1 AGB take?

[pseudo quarry]

you cant use my solution :(?

[ebon hazel]

Oh I got it

[civic nebula]

Hey guys, I'm following the exact same setup as the one from guide with greater diff (427 vs 634 and mine is 411 vs 610) and better gear and I just can't win. What is wrong? https://i.imgur.com/o0kfLje.png

[ebon hazel]

It was just taking what longer than I wanted

[ebon hazel]

Does your queen and Skriath have same investment?

[civic nebula]

Same investment as the one in the guide (aka almost none)

They just die instantly

There is an alternative, https://i.imgur.com/fQ3Cfvb.png, I also just die there, for like 2 hours of macro

not even a glimpse of hope

[noble crag]

Stuck at this any tipa?

[signal canopy]

Too many low level damage heroes. Rowan and Oden will work better than Estrilda and Solise

[mental grail]

hey guys im wondering if you guys would change anything about my comp rn cuz im kinda stuck on stage 10

[ocean heath]

Help

[dry forge]

Should I be doing anything different leveling wise

[fossil rose]

Ascend Daimon as high as you can. Use Thoran and brutus frontline. Back like should be either CC or healer, Sylas and Arden should be good

[pale kettle]

How can i kill the back row? More specifically nemora? I think she is the problem (correct me if I’m wrong)

[pale kettle]

Fawkes, Izold, silvina, shemira out of the crystal.
Slot in Zikis, hypogean buff is 30% defense, click top left in battle to see active buffs
Slot in Ferael, Hodgekin support that could help and Kren, his dmg could help Daimon
Be patient for some exp in the meantime to bring Daimon direction lvl 140

Problem is the purple stuff

But thanks

You will ascend Saveas and Mirael to L/L+ as you get more fodder
Silvina too

[slim portal]

Isabella is lethal there, the longer she survives, she’s doing more damage

[pale kettle]

Ok thank you

[gloomy loom]

Can't seem to kill flora after few days of trying here ... She is always last to survive and Thoran never get the chance to ult her, any recommendations?

[strong aurora]

Any idea on what route to go moving forward. I've been swapping people in and out alot for team comps. But is there any indivual ones I should focus on strictly. And any idea for this current team comp as it's 1shottimg basically my whole team lol.

[pale kettle]

Can I isee ur wishlist

[golden perch]

@gilded knoll fine for now. eventually (soon) reset saurus and ira. raise arden, golus, silvina, hogan, mirael as your 5 heroes. you should have a wukong, keep him the highest level until lvl 100 and pick 4 of those 5 to lvl up behind him. then lvl reset wukong and lvl mirael when you're capped at 100. more info here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcT34gPd9WS8Ivb9kZGmAP6qnoIzFFUUmyNETq1J_kg/edit

[pale kettle]

Check pins in #classic-questions for a better wishlist

[golden perch]

@strong aurora u can try this comp:
Tasi/Oden

Grez
Rowan
Brutus/Thoran
Daimon

daimon is good at Elite still, but dont line him up vs Estrilda. sometimes he can be on front line but hes low lvl so try him in back

[strong aurora]

Diamon and Brutus both get 1 shot wherever they line up

My back row dies almost instantly

[icy cobalt]

@ocean heath if ur still stuck on that stage link your ainz with your shemira because ainz is 10x better

[strong aurora]

I just tried that setup. It's the same results of everything I try. Everyone but grez is dead in a second or 2

[golden perch]

Yeah, not surprising. Try working Arden in as a CC. just put him on the crystal since yuo already have other wilders L+. strategically, grez isnt a carry early game (he needs massive lategame investment to shine) so this is the point hes falling off now for you. you need to get another carry going. most people use Mirael/Saveas to 160 until they find a daimon/eironn/oden/kren/x

[strong aurora]

What do I use for tanks

[strong aurora]

I can make a mireal and saveas both e+

[golden perch]

They will need to be L+ and lvl 160, gonna take some time

[strong aurora]

I still don't understand how tanks work then, what are you using in the front to keep people from dying

[ancient hedge]

Guys i need help

These all my heros and i cant beat this team

[bright hill]

Can't even do it with Merc.

[south latch]

Suggestions?

[tulip ore]

Have you tried Nara-ing Safiyah?

[maiden marsh]

skriath isn't helpful here, lorsan is likely better. luc should go backline so safiya doesn't bonk her out of existence immediately. brutus should have barricade if he doesn't already.

[hallow kettle]

tidus frontline, maybe warek frontline? then kren, numisu, and skriath. have athalia target the skriath since skriath doesn't do much but be there for his 3 furn anyways. make sure tidus has shroud so that he doesn't get pushed back by estrilda at the start

[delicate osprey]

Looking for the optimal PVP LCT teams, here's basically my entire roster:

and here are the teams I usually go with:

I put my Alna Grez comp up against a 5pull team, Ainz against whatever Lucretia/Athalia team they have, and sacrifice 5pull to the opponents Ainz

[maiden marsh]

first team is perfect as soon as joker gets kicked for merlin when he's 9F

second team, daimon goes out for athalia asap, otherwise great

third team, run lucretia twins ezizh rowan skreg

[delicate osprey]

thanks!

are any of these formations Ainz-killers? Or is that always a sacrificial matchup?

[maiden marsh]

alna GB and luc cycle both stand a comfortable chance, though perhaps not a positive winrate

[magic sail]

how do i do this pls help

[pale kettle]

stop using shemira and lucius

[quick rampart]

Is this even possible?

[vapid jungle]

spend so much time on this one... cant find a winning team there... heres my heroes 🙂 tks
main team i use: alna, brutus, ferael, rowan, daimon

[fiery wing]

help here thanks

[fiery wing]

yes

daimon

brutus
eirron
thoran
nara

[fiery wing]

@rigid imp what did you use here?

[maiden vapor]

farael/lyca
thoran
eironn
brutus
daimon

and make sure silvina jumps brutus

[copper silo]

Hello just looking for suggestions on who to go after. I’m SG lucretia. But as for factions summons, wilder or GB? Or even mauler now with granite?

[fiery wing]

thanks, how about here?

[rigid imp]

swap ferael and daimon and retry for rng, no need to swap frontline

[mental nest]

Suggestions?

[outer pollen]

Get twins of mortas in new event?

[rigid imp]

no silas sad, even E or E+ silas help alot in this stage, my team was
silas (E+)

daimon
nara (E+)
thoran (mine was A but E+ work too)
brutus (E)

[outer pollen]

Twins or mortas from event

[dull flame]

no need to spam it...Do you have a copy of either of them?

[outer pollen]

Nah

[maiden marsh]

then twins

[dull flame]

most likely

[dull flame]

yeah, twins are best for now, they are used in every boss

[signal canopy]

Put Diamon in one of the back corners

Magic

[mental nest]

Anyone help pls

[rich siren]

34-12 not sure what 3 to go with

[magic sail]

help pls

[ember belfry]

Help plz

[rigid imp]

nara in the middle

[winter oracle]

currently at 8-16 and stuck
i read through the pins and i was wondering when i should level up and ascend the legendary fodder units like mirael instead of daimon and others?

[west skiff]

HELPPPP. also I can't take it anymore🖕

[outer grove]

Halp can i pass?

Nvm i cleared it lol

[pale kettle]

Can anyone look over my campaign formations?

Tell me if they see anything major wrong.

[signal canopy]

You want Oden instead of Tasi and use Fereal more than Silas on Alna GB. You can use Kelthur instead on Thoran although that formation will vary the most of these based on the stage. Would say Kelthur and Lorsan are the most used. Team 5 is a mess I don't see it clearing any stage with that but might be fun for PvP. You should be trying to use Mehira/Raku. Khazard and Zol if you have them

[west walrus]

Wrong application of Portal

You'll hardly ever need Brutus for Lucretia 5 pull

[west walrus]

Ig here are the meta comps, that I have at least.

CC in Ainz can be replaced depending on what is available, like Tasi/Ferael. Same can be said for Daimon/Grez cycle with Silas.

Portal will hinder Thorans ability to cheese since CC will prevent Thoran from taking much damage

Tasi might be too slow for CC in your Formation 24 tbh. But it could work depending on case

Idk what even that Formation 27 is and why you would Si30 Hodgkin without doing his furn.

[austere root]

Misty Valley, kill 2 backline enemy first.
its hard to kill backline first when there is Hendrik, moreover krem in constantly leaving the field before i can kill, same happen to wu kong he ult and his real body leaving

[signal canopy]

I used Gwen/Ezio/Raine

[austere root]

Damn, i dont have all of those developed enuf, gwen is just 10/0, Ezio don't have, Raine still at M
thanks for the advice anw

[rich siren]

Still need help with 33-12

[austere root]

Misty Valley again, kill 2 frontline first, actually i almost manage to kill those frontline first, but kelthur ruin everything, he comes up from behind and killed first before the monument (i forgot the name lol)

[signal canopy]

Show what enemies you're up against

[rich siren]

note:Lucretia is +29 2/9 furni

[signal canopy]

Lucretia probably isn't beating this without at least +30. Would probably trade for Tidus, Queen or maybe even Tasi if she's available

[rich siren]

yeah im waiting on 9 emblems for hypo ty!

[patent hemlock]

Are you close to skriath 3?

[rich siren]

skraith 0

[patent hemlock]

Is he even on wl?

[rich siren]

he is now

[patent hemlock]

One of the most important 3’s out there

[rich siren]

@patent hemlock albedo is 7f xC

i didnt know about skraith yet

[patent hemlock]

Bedo only needs 3, can you send wl?

[rich siren]

Don’t laugh or yell at me pls

[patent hemlock]

What are your other furn looking like? For other heroes? If you can ss that too

[high marlin]

Probably take joker off

[rich siren]

Again pls dont yell

[patent hemlock]

No I meant show your other heroes, when you go to slot one in

[patent hemlock]

Twins out for fearel, and talene out for thoran, joker out for Izold, imo

I’d get a second opinion, you can ask in questions

[rich siren]

I got thru 33-12 and 33-16 😄

[high marlin]

What rc

[amber halo]

I'm 37-8 and literally nobody didn't use alna gb which i don't have rip 210 deficit.

[signal canopy]

Welcome to 37. I too don't have her

[amber halo]

Rip i don't have raku and Oden either so its not that easy

[noble crag]

Stuck at this

[amber halo]

At least ur Rowan should heal estrilda over Brutus at 5 spot. If he got any of his elixirs yet? If not probably u can use Arden in that spot at at least 81 to root 2 enemies

U could also use a banisher tasi/fawkes if you have any of them

[noble crag]

I have only this

[amber halo]

Tasi could be a decent choice over Rowan if he doesn't do his heals yet or try Rowan in position 5

I wouldn't recommend having baden and torne in the crystal

[noble crag]

Rowan on 5 not working ill try tasi over rowan

[amber halo]

Remember there is a lot of rng that takes into play in campaign battles

And alright let me know how it goes. And if tasi really can't work Arden should be able to

Since Arden roots 2 enemies at level 81

[noble crag]

Nah she is insta killed and i dont have arden

Actually i do but blue one

[amber halo]

I wouldn't recommend Lucius in the long run but right now he might keep ur team Alive more than estrilda since he can shield and heal ur team, so u can at least try it out. And no don't use Arden if he's not elite tho xD

Otherwise just wait for l+ 141 mirael

[proud estuary]

If anyone can help haha

[amber halo]

Merlin or ainz over alna maybe try it out

Could also try numisu in the spot. Experiment

[plucky laurel]

Help

[amber halo]

Just use 5 pull with luc should be easy win or with Brutus and Lv 1 hypogeans

[plucky laurel]

Tried doing 3 pull, lucretia died very fast

[amber halo]

Have Brutus with the pull with barricade so luc doesnt die @plucky laurel

[whole bramble]

help please

[amber halo]

Remove daimon put Brutus. Or remove ainz and put Brutus. Depending if u want to carry with ainz or daimon here

U could also test granit out. But no way u will use multiple carries there

And if u use ainz u can put albedo there as well instead of merlin

@whole bramble

[whole bramble]

@amber halo thank u I just best it after 100+ tries using Brutus for Daimon, appreciate it!!

[fiery wing]

lyca

thoran
eirron
brutus
daimon

[amber halo]

No worries don't underestimate Brutus. He is very good in daimon comp to make him shine

[fiery wing]

hey if u want to push u can add me i pushed chap 22-26 at 180 rc

[amber halo]

No way u won't use Rowan in daimon comp lol.

[whole bramble]

no I mean I didnt use Daimon because I used Brutus, getting an Ainz ult is what usually gets me through

@fiery wing sure thing whats your ID?

[fiery wing]

just search IU

[amber halo]

That's also pretty good stall for either daimon or ainz. Eironn works well with daimon tho. With Lyca Rowan ferael for example

Ainz needs a lot of investment with albedo and Arthur later on just so ur prepared

[whole bramble]

@fiery wing there are thousands of IU's

[fiery wing]

131715563

[whole bramble]

@amber halo yeah Im investing In Daimon now, Im at 7 copies though so Im just using Ainz untill the 8th copy

@fiery wing added u :)

[amber halo]

Alright awesome

[fiery wing]

with the right comps and rng u can easily beat c27 at 200 rc be lucky to have a 203 daimon

[amber halo]

No u can't. People are at least 240 at 27-20 for example

And 220 at 26-20

So he can probably beat ch25

[fiery wing]

anyways need help too

[amber halo]

Look at afk helper. Show me one clear not just the lineup

[fiery wing]

ofc afkhelper only shows 240 and even 260+ rc but i usually follow them despite having 180-200 rc and rng hopes for the best, daimon can do anything u know

[amber halo]

I see good job

Must be pretty lucky with ferael too to make it work

[fiery wing]

yea fereal pushed me extra 4 chapters and still ongoing

but rowan SI30 made me cleared c27

[pale kettle]

Hunting lineup? I have a 30SI Saurus

[whole bramble]

well Im at 23-2 and cant kill it lol

[fiery wing]

hmmm is your daimon 203?

[whole bramble]

no hes 150

I need one more copy to get him ascended... also havent been lucky enough to get any furn in advance for him

[fiery wing]

can you show me ur full box?

[fiery wing]

its ok you can hold until 23-4 then go for daimon 203 you can use cards either to faster the progress

[whole bramble]

used my cards already on Ainz cuz Im dumb but will hold them for Daimon for now

[pale kettle]

@fiery wing Sure. That's all I've got

[fiery wing]

twins

saurus
rowan
rosa
daimon

[pale kettle]

Thanks!

[umbral whale]

Need help, everyone other than daimon can survive for 5 seconds and daimon gets perma cced after that.

[zealous harness]

Can‘t seem to figure a comp out that works… often either erased by Grez and Baden’s sheer amount of summons while Daimon chills in banishment. When I can terrorize Tasi and Daimon goes off it‘s not enough to chain ult and beat them because Ferael keeps draining my energy

[short zephyr]

Does frontlining rowan work and replacing lyca with raku?

[zealous harness]

Then it’s often a haste issue vs their Ferael and Tasi

[vagrant ibex]

Try to 240 raku and swap daimon ...
Rowan brutus
Raku fera tasi/lyca

240 raku is better than 240 tasi

Raku is just great

[sturdy mango]

Any advice?

[zealous harness]

It’s always Tasi exploding right in my face that keeps Raku killing. He manages to get a quadrakill just to get annihilated by her afterwards

[shut nebula]

Hard stuck on 14-38. No other stage this chapter has given me this much trouble lol…any ideas? (Out of resources to level atm, any way I can win with what I have rn?)

[noble crag]

How to beat this

[ancient hedge]

Help

Help pls

[pale kettle]

just try the level again and again after some tries it will work

[midnight bronze]

Yup, the last fight I had easily took me over 50 tries

It's all in time

[ionic wolf]

Pls help

[mental nest]

Pls help

[ionic wolf]

Pls I’m on chapter 9

[astral jay]

@ionic wolf use this
Daimon
Thoran
Mirael
Brutus
Rowan

Read pins in #classic-questions

[noble topaz]

How to pass the 500 level someone already

[runic garden]

@noble topaz why are you so eager to pass that? It doesn't give anything and people won't share their secrets with you anyway, unless 500 is a shitty score (deficit)

[maiden marsh]

500 is a pretty shitty score already

[noble topaz]

do you think someone will give 540 or 536? There I have a mission to pass

[noble topaz]

do you think someone will give 540 or 536? There I have a mission to pass

I'm a newbie

[runic garden]

No. Also, you don't get any rewards there.@noble topaz

[trail snow]

what can i do?

[sturdy mango]

I thought I would at least try asking in here

[ornate mesa]

Having trouble on 8-16 as my backline just gets assassinated by Silvina. Any ideas for a lineup?

[ember belfry]

Need help on this

[pale kettle]

Thanks this helped me a bit, the 5th team was more of a... Lol idk what I'm doing comp.

[normal grail]

Left is me, right is a build I found on afkhelper. I must've repeated this fight 100+ times and not even ONCE did Thoran manage to ult at all. Note the difference in Mehira damage. This too happens every time. What can I do to make Nara keep Mehira in check as she's supposed to?

[fierce viper]

Put dura's call on nara, she needs the extra haste

[normal grail]

Alright, that seems to be making a difference. Not quite enough yet but I have hope with enough retries. Thanks!

[fierce viper]

You're welcome! Another idea to get even more haste would be to give her high tier boots

[dull flame]

@normal grail nara with +15 sig also gives a bit more haste as well

[normal grail]

She's still kinda far down the line in terms of ascension priority for me, so that 's not gonna happen soon.

[dull flame]

mehira can do damage, that's fine, the point of nara is grabbing mehira before she releases her minions so thoran can one-shot her, note the differences in your trees, the haste/acc/defense could all make a difference

[normal grail]

I beat the level after another bunch of retries with Call on Nara. That seemed to have made the difference. I realize the difference in trees, but they're not big and my hero levels are quite a lot higher.

[clear raft]

Need help stuck atm and tried a lot of different variation keep coming up short

[dull flame]

thats the point, thoran cheese doesn't work great at low lvl deficits

[weary narwhal]

I am getting ruined by this, I steamrolled through 29-14>29-59 lastnight in 30 minutes but I’m reallllllly getting stomped here, I do have x1 merc still but idk who I would borrow to suppress this team

[maiden marsh]

rosa out for tasi, rowan front, then replace one of the tanks with a ferael merc. alternatively, merc something outrageous like a 309 lucretia and just roll it because 60 deficit

[whole yacht]

My current team is daimon, grez, Reyna, lyca, Rowan. I also have 3 free crystal spots if needed.

[maiden marsh]

@weary narwhal try lyca brutus nara rowan lucretia

[weary narwhal]

This was the one but drop Nara for rosa cuz I didn’t have Nara past E, tyvm :D!!!

[maiden marsh]

[noble crag]

Any ideas?

[topaz mesa]

I'm currently getting about 1.63m in AE with this team. I have maxed out the Celerity artifacts (5.6) and the others are level 3 range. Is there a team I should try to get to the 2.3m needed for Prince?

[tight juniper]

Do you have twins and mortas?

[topaz mesa]

I do. I'm not sure why they don't show on the box... maybe a row is missing.

Oh, they're in a different order, it seems.

[tight juniper]

You should be able to hit prince. Grez (with soul), Lucretia, Mortas, Rowan, and Twins