lineup-help

[clear raft]

Thanks

[dull flame]

it's not an average amount, it's your lowest leveled out of your top 5 most leveled heroes.

[gilded geyser]

Yeah-

[dull flame]

so what's the problem

[gilded geyser]

You said if I just levelled up my L+ instead of E it Would've worked more

[dull flame]

yeah? it would

[gilded geyser]

But I need a full team for that Crystal LVL no?

[dull flame]

send a screenshot of your cystal

[dull flame]

right. so see how thoran's lvl is in blue? all heroes that you add into crystal(the + sign, like raine), will take that lvl

[gilded geyser]

Yeah?

[dull flame]

if you had 5 lvl 160's, then you can add other heroes like daimon and have them be at lvl 160

but you can't do that with e+ because they are capped at lvl 120 and can't go higher

[gilded geyser]

Yeah-

[dull flame]

so what's the problem

[gilded geyser]

I didn't have the exp to get all LVL 160

[dull flame]

yes, but you WILL eventually.

[gilded geyser]

Yea

[dull flame]

the problem is you can't lvl up a daimon past 120 even if you HAVE the exp, because he is e+

because you can get exp and dust quickly, lvling up your highest ascension heroes and putting the rest on crystal is the best way to get the most lvls, ignoring power cap

[gilded geyser]

okay

[dull flame]

when you get daimon, thoran, fereal etc to legendary+ or mythic, then you can lvl them up, but not now, because they are e+

rule of thumb, lvl up highest ascension

[gilded geyser]

Yes I know-

[dull flame]

ok, going to go now, if you still have problems, you can dm me, or not, pinging here is fine

[gilded geyser]

Okay- bye now

[pale kettle]

I need help

[dull flame]

oden
rowan
daimon
izold
zikis

[pale kettle]

Failed

[dull flame]

who does silvina go for?

[pale kettle]

Oden

[dull flame]

lvl oden up more

[pale kettle]

[dull flame]

you want her to go for rowan

[undone folio]

How do I beat this Ulmus comp

[ebon cliff]

try replacing ferael with isabella and if that doesn't work switch ferael's position with oden

[undone folio]

The self heal in this comp is cringe

[undone folio]

Just got it with Ferael on top, ty

[zealous iron]

Who should I change out/move around

[humble zodiac]

swap shemira to desira/tasi, rowan front bottom, desira/tasi middle, daimon on bottom

[ebon cliff]

ferael could also work with his fear

[humble zodiac]

yeah, try with ferael too if it didnt work

[pale kettle]

Didnt play for a long time, what is the best team I can make with these Heroes?

[ebon cliff]

read the pinned guide in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

ok, thank you

[umbral whale]

does it matter heavily on who your first 5A are? or its fine as long as they are from the recommended wishlist

oops wrong channel

[pale kettle]

Do I just need more levels here? Because that bat guy can 1vs5 my team like no big deal

[ebon cliff]

ainz aint a tank and i feel like shemira would be better in this scenario

[pale kettle]

The problem is that everyone else insta dies in the front row
At least Ainz can take a couple of hits because he's lv 170

[rigid imp]

put thoran in if you have him

[ebon cliff]

then try shemira cus she can be an actual tank and dmg dealer (don't do this late game cus shemira falls off hard)

[pale kettle]

That worked like a charm. Shemira > Ainz

[ebon cliff]

yea but past chapter 20 ainz>shemira

[fathom perch]

Help please. Stuck here

[half dagger]

im fairly new to this game been playing for 3 days can anyone tell me a team i can focus on because im kinda lost tbh XD

[half dagger]

ah okay will give it a look hopefully i understand this game abit more xD

[rigid imp]

you still have the chest that have nara from new player event ?

[grand perch]

Hello @rigid imp,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[stiff frigate]

Stuck for a bit need help

[fathom perch]

No, I don't have Nara

[rigid imp]

sad, nara help a lot at these stages

[chilly sentinel]

Anyone have any clue?

[pale kettle]

Nara
Saurus
Rowan
Lucius
Ferael
@stiff frigate just for fun if u want use merc cause urs not si 30 so its hard

[humble zodiac]

try merc lucretia. you can add me if you dont have any. nvm, just remember someone already borrowed my luc this week

[leaden kiln]

I’m stuck. Any ideas?

[humble zodiac]

try changing rosa to arden

[undone sleet]

Help please 🙂

[umbral whale]

Possible or I am just too weak? 3 main threats, mirael, morvus aoe burst, estrilda cc locks daimon

saving merc for 11-40 or 12-4 if possible

[fickle loom]

160 mirael takes you to ch13 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[umbral whale]

Dont have her tho, i think I'll have to wait fr 140 daimon and some 120+ heroes

[warm vector]

Why can’t I equip relics soil to my strength units?

Relics soul” the boost in abyssal expedition

[pale kettle]

Need some help.

Nvm just beat it out of pure luck

NOW I need help lol

[delicate osprey]

Hypogean Tower 315

[viral dock]

Help pls

[maiden vapor]

try
daimon
thoran/rowan
eironn
brutus
lyca
u might need to put call on eironn to make sure he pulls

actually skyriath instead of thoran/rowan

[viral dock]

Ye it work with 3 try with skyriath

Thanks im gonna used this team to see where i can go before i need to change

[velvet flower]

Power stuck or am I just bad at lineups

[astral jay]

Make arden 141+ reset thoran to 140. And use him instead of rowan

[acoustic summit]

Lineup help please. I’m going to put tasi on the rc when another slot opens up. I can still get past the campaign levels but the boss levels take a couple tries with my current team

[astral jay]

Use tasi instead of pippa

[pale kettle]

@acoustic summit
Silvana
Hogan
Mirael
Daimon
Arden/rosa

[astral jay]

Reset others to 81 make silvina as higher as you can. And try this
Silvina
Talene
Mehira
Daimon
Rosa

[acoustic summit]

I’m confused why no Silas or tasi??

[viral dock]

What's the best counter against a lucius ?

[acoustic summit]

Why silvina and not Silas or tasi

Why hogan?

[viral dock]

Cause they can get lvl 160 easily

[acoustic summit]

But I’m confused why is it not tasi or Silas (also Silas carried talene)

[pale kettle]

@viral dock
Ferael or merlin
Grez
Rowan
Albedo
Ainz

[velvet flower]

Thanks looks like it’s up to rng now

[viral dock]

Because your silas or else are E or E+ so lvl 100-120 capped with the resonating cristal you can get them lvl 160 even at E with 5 other heroes lvl 160 like Mirael Hogan Silvina

[acoustic summit]

Understood but can you explain why I shouldn’t put them in team

[viral dock]

@pale kettle my Ainz bedo is not rlly build my Ainz only have T2-T1 gear from fb faction and the book arte 0*

[pale kettle]

But ainz team is op..

Well maybe
Ferael
Grez/thoran
Oden/rowna
Thoran/grez
Daimon
@viral dock

[viral dock]

@acoustic summit that i don't rlly know i know silas could be good in early Tasi idk but they are not rlly heroes you play THIS early

@pale kettle yes but i just start building it so they are not good for now

I still only have 2 furn ainz 0 bedo si 20 ainz sl 1 bedo and not rlly good gear for them

[acoustic summit]

Ok. According to friends I have too many end game good heroes and not enough early game good heroes. Silas did carry me for the entirety of c8, and tasi just looks gud

But everything looks so good too

[viral dock]

@pale kettle thanks i win with oden portal spam

@acoustic summit in early wukong is the best carry for lvl 100 then Mireal to lvl 160 and then Daimon for a big part of the campaign

[acoustic summit]

But I just can’t understand. How could mirael or wukong ever be better than daimon? Daimon just carries me

[astral jay]

Didn't you ask for lineup help? I did. Am I supposed to explain why each hero is being used ?

[astral jay]

Then go make lineup yourself . Why did you even ask here .

[astral jay]

Farael?

[acoustic summit]

I’m just confused.

[pale kettle]

@acoustic summit u allready read the pins in #classic-questions ?

[viral dock]

@acoustic summit it's because of early priorities because of if your Daimon is not leg+ already

[acoustic summit]

Ok thx I did read the pins

[viral dock]

Until your Daimon is leg+ he can't be your main dps

[pale kettle]

In question* the pins^^

[viral dock]

@astral jay ye idk i just make a team someone tell me and it work

[acoustic summit]

I’ll try grind daimons

It’s just I read pins and they said to use daimon early game if possible

[pale kettle]

@acoustic summit so u read?

Help ya boy

[astral jay]

@pale kettle reset lyca to 120 make arden 141+. and try this
Arden
Lucius
Morrow
Lyca
Oden

[pale kettle]

Still getting steam rolled

[astral jay]

@pale kettle send result ss

[pale kettle]

Like defeat screen?

[astral jay]

Also reset oden to 120 and Make. Seveas 141+

[astral jay]

Try above thing if you still defeat them send defeated ss

[pale kettle]

Where does seveas go?

[astral jay]

Instead of oden

[pale kettle]

@astral jay

[undone sleet]

Help please? 🙂

[astral jay]

Not this . There is another brown option click it and send it's ss

[astral jay]

Try oden instead of rowan

[pale kettle]

@astral jay

[astral jay]

Didn't I say to reset oden to 120 and make arden 141 and use arden ?

[pale kettle]

I misread

[fathom perch]

Help please

[zealous harness]

Tasi out, Brutus in. Brutus in front of Daimon and try Rowan instead of Eironn maybe

Ideas? I‘m either getting deleted by Isabella barrage, Ezizh preventing my ultimate or Shemira silence 😵

[vagrant ibex]

Rowan brutus
Daimon ferael tasi shud be enough
Or just used raku and bench daimon is even better

Raku tasi lyca

[zealous harness]

Which order? 😅

[vagrant ibex]

Try with daimon 1st

[zealous harness]

It’s always Ulmus Grez Ezizh left

Daimon comp even worse

[vagrant ibex]

@fathom perch
Brutus rowan
Tasi lyca daimon
Cuz you dont have nara nor fera so It depends on banished tasi you could also playing with aden teleport using daimon as frontliner and move 1 of enemies to the other side so daimon has more survavibility

Try to Moved daimon in front of ezizh but your fera shud be fear shem and isabel

[fathom perch]

Brutus and daimon front line?

[vagrant ibex]

Yea if you you used oden teleport just try it

[fathom perch]

If I use Oden, who should I take out?

[zealous harness]

Ferael and Tasi don‘t work well together. He can’t fear her while she’s banished, then she returns normal while he‘s already dead

[vagrant ibex]

Try with raku then
Daimon brutus
Raku rowan fera

[zealous harness]

That finally worked, thanks!

[mental nest]

Which hero should I loan to carry me in guild hunt?

[pale kettle]

Imo 309 Grezhul

Or twins, depends on what you have

[mental nest]

Grezhul better than saurus?

[slim portal]

Send help

[pale kettle]

Try with Ferael in the place of Rosa, you'll gain some CC and a faction bonus, it might help

[crystal topaz]

iam new level 70 , which should i invest to?
my team is izolde safia thoren tasi and rosalin

[silk burrow]

read pins in #classic-questions

[slim portal]

a bit late but thank you, did it with ferael replaced rosaline

[maiden marsh]

Saurus, grez sucks in guild hunts

[pale kettle]

I'm stuck asf

[maiden marsh]

Drop zikis and izold for people who will actually contribute like lyca or arden.

[pale kettle]

I dont have lyca

[maiden marsh]

How would I know without seeing your roster

[velvet belfry]

post your box

[pale kettle]

My bad

[maiden marsh]

Zikis and izold out for morrow and arden

Could try tasi, she belongs on crystal more than izold anyways

[digital skiff]

^

[pale kettle]

I just put him there cuz I needed him earlier

[velvet belfry]

well you dont need him now, he really cant do much without his investment

[digital skiff]

Oden
Monki
Arden
Rowan
Daimon

[dapper gulch]

Any suggestions on this dismal maze? It's only the 2nd floor and I can't beat this stage at all

I've tried multiple different heroes and everyone always dies.

[velvet belfry]

might need a demonbreaker

[fervent raptor]

I just started 4 days ago and i'm stuck here...is it just a matter of level or there is a good lineup?

[velvet belfry]

read pins in #classic-questions @fervent raptor

[pale kettle]

I'm still stuck btw

Forgot to mention

[pale kettle]

help me🥺

is it good?

[elfin cloak]

uh try mirael back middle and maybe switch than and shemira but idk im not that gud at this game

[mental nest]

Best guild hunt team? Loaned a saurus

[upbeat fossil]

post more pages of your hero box until we can see the first R+ hero

Rare+. blue border

[upbeat fossil]

Wrizz - Saurus Rosaline Twins Raine Lorsan/Numisu/Daimon
Soren - Saurus Rosaline Twins Raine Cecilia

you'll have to experiment with the last slot for Wrizz. pause the fight 2 seconds before it ends and take note of the dmg, then press Try Again and test it with the other 2 heroes i mentioned

[mental nest]

But celilia Lyca and nimisu are basically all elite

Should I put daimon since it’s my carry

[upbeat fossil]

just follow the comps i gave and test them
ascension doesn't matter for some heroes coz their job is to support

[mental nest]

Ok

I put them in the leveling crystal thing right?

[upbeat fossil]

yes. you also have some heroes that aren't useful in campaign as of now, so if u need more RC slots u can remove Vurk Rigby Raku Skriath Safiya
oh and also add Daimon to the last slot of Wrizz experiments i asked u to try
i have a feeling Daimon's 3/9 will help boost dmg more than those but just test Wrizz first

Wrizz - Saurus Rosaline Twins Raine Lorsan/Numisu/Daimon
Soren - Saurus Rosaline Twins Raine Cecilia

[pale kettle]

Need some help because I have no idea what I’m doing lol

[mental nest]

Ok

[upbeat fossil]

Daimon is your main carry. use him every fight and put him backline
try using smth like

Lyca

Thoran or any tank you find survives well
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

you're not gonna go far coz you don't have good supports (e.g. Ferael, Tasi) built yet but use this first
Daimon Rowan will want Call

[mental nest]

Thanks for the help, I’ll test the the rc spots open up

[pale kettle]

Thanks, although I’m still on the same level it seems to be almost to the point of beating it

[upbeat fossil]

spam retries

[slow sleet]

What do I use

[pale kettle]

for arena? post bos

[slow sleet]

Arenas

[latent kayak]

5th day stuck on this

[pale kettle]

post ur whole box

[slim portal]

Arden

Brutus
Mirael
Thoran/Daimon
Rowan

[pale kettle]

Need some help

[cerulean nymph]

What should my formation be with brutus tasi daimon thoran and estrildra? Right now I have it in this order thoran Brutus in front and daimon in all the way back up tasi in middle then estrilldra bottom back

[cerulean nymph]

Oh and I’m on 10-12

[astral jay]

@pale kettle try this
Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Rosa
Daimon

[pale kettle]

Thanks I’ll try it

Do you want me to spam because I’m getting losses rn

[maiden vapor]

does it get anywhere close to winning? (do u kill 1 or 2 enemies)

[pale kettle]

I mean it leaves all the enemies really low

[cerulean nymph]

Doers anyone here have an answer for my question?

[pale kettle]

Send a picture

[pale kettle]

Send all your hero’s

[cerulean nymph]

Ok

[pale kettle]

And next time don’t upgrade to legendary you will run out of fodder, upgrade the fodder to l+ and keep them until you get enough copies for ascended

[fiery wing]

help a noob like me out ayy :((

[pale kettle]

Ever though about doing daimon rosaline duo?

[cerulean nymph]

No I’m new I don’t know much

[pale kettle]

Ok I think you should replace estrilda with rosaline

[cerulean nymph]

Ok what does she do

[pale kettle]

And daimon should be your highest upgrade you need to have a carry at least 20 levels above the rest

[pale kettle]

Her ult is able to pass on her energy to the selected hero

[cerulean nymph]

I used to have a carry but as things slowed down I got everyone caught up

[pale kettle]

Go max upgrade daimon

[cerulean nymph]

Ok I don’t have any hero exp rn but that will be my priority

[pale kettle]

Alr then just do red crystal on rosaline

[cerulean nymph]

Ok

[distant prism]

thoran cheese no Pippa : (

[pale kettle]

Kudoz what should I do

[distant prism]

I'm not great at helping but maybe swap eironn and kren and swap thoran for lyca?

[dim gull]

1. I’m really new to the game and just started. here are the current units I own. can someone form a good early game team (or multiple) for campaign and other content. also design wise I like Solise the most but I am aware that she’s not very good so I’m okay with slotting her out of the team.

2. what should I have for my summoning wishlist?

[maiden vapor]

read the pins in #classic-questions

in particular the infographic and the doc below it

[dim gull]

so much words my tiny poo poo brain is having trouble understanding but I’ll follow the lineup said

i feel like i joined too late tbh

[brazen sand]

Lineup placement good?

[velvet belfry]

placement really only matters per stage. if youre talking about for this stage its fine

[timid tulip]

Can someone help me with the 3 teams for LC group stages. Low chance of victory but Id rather maximise those low chances even with my scuffed box

[fathom perch]

Help please

[velvet belfry]

switch out eironn for rowan and thoran for brutus

[fathom perch]

Positions stay the same?

[fiery wing]

help me :((

[velvet belfry]

this is a long shot but it literally just worked for me like 10 mins ago where im at, switch out thoran put lyca front and put lorsan in lycas spot (you can swap his position around if it doesnt work like that.) lorsan links pretty helpful for getting daimon some early momentum

[velvet belfry]

i think theyd be fine like that, yeah, as long as rowan is close to daimon hes getting value

[fiery wing]

woah it does work thanks

[velvet belfry]

yup, worked for me here too

[fiery wing]

oooo poggers thanks imma hold 27-20 now until i got rowan to SI30

[velvet belfry]

good luck

[stoic kestrel]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

You could try with Lyca instead of Brutus or Thoran, you are pretty much underleveled and are lacking mythic on Ferael which is very important

[elfin cloak]

hlep i haven't played this game in forever pls hlep

[stoic kestrel]

yea guess ill wait some fodder since i got enough fereal copies for ascended should clear it then

[twilit bay]

What combination of levels should I have from now on? High lvl carry with low lvl teams, or should I make them all equal?

[sly crypt]

(I copied my previous) I got stuck on level 8-16 in campaign. These are my current heroes if anyone would offer suggestions.

[vagrant ibex]

@twilit bay daimon shud be above the other

@sly crypt you can use shemira as your carry since you up her already also need cc like arden but i advice to not upgrade any hero before you have atleast 6-7 copies except daimon cuz he gud even at myth and you need him

@elfin cloak
Estrilda brutus
Nemora nara shemira

@stoic kestrel
Rowan thoran
Daimon nara fera

[twilit bay]

Ok by how much? 120-150? What if my tank get destroyed bc he is low level, should I be worried or just relies on daimon?

[elfin cloak]

ok

[vagrant ibex]

Its ok tank is only exception cuz daimon can tank his self if you read him skills

[twilit bay]

Yes he has skill for making shield. I guess I would upgrade izold lvl a bit. he can die before he can inject himself with self healing, which is a problem to me lately

[sly crypt]

Something like this?

[vagrant ibex]

Izold is good at late game ... honestly daimon is not gud tank but when hes ulty like 3-4 times the game became easy so you need to focus on daimon firat and then some cc amd support heroes

Its ok swap lucius for brutus place and rowan could be a tank sometimes

[twilit bay]

Yes I would do that. I got sirus for my heal and both him and daimon only 1 copy away from legend+. Izold is fine I can have him from the big give back, sirus good for support w/ rowen.

Is ferael anygood for cc? Im currently using tasi

[vagrant ibex]

Yes daimon need ferael and nara.. fera is a must to have

Just spam graveborn on faction scrolls lol

[twilit bay]

Yeah I still have 40 faction scroll, will dump on it for gb. Is this whistlist already correct or should I change that tank dude to nara? I only know she hooks ppl but thats abt it

[vagrant ibex]

Nope keep like dat .. elite nara is enough
Also swap lorsan for pippa

[twilit bay]

Ah ok would do that, thats everything I wanted to ask. Thank you!

[vagrant ibex]

Your welcome

[pale kettle]

Help

[elfin cloak]

uhh what if you switch daimon and the fire girl

@pale kettle

[pale kettle]

I'll try it

[tough fjord]

Help

[rigid imp]

lyca

grez maybe
rowan
brutus
daimon

[sweet vortex]

Who should I merc for this?

[rigid imp]

merc a 309 ainz

[sweet vortex]

Idrk what to do I lose hp way too quick

[tough fjord]

I just had to switch out Rowan to Silas and it worked. Thank you.

[topaz chasm]

anyone have tips on a lineup for stage 3 in misty valley, kill 2 backline heroes first?

[rigid imp]

mine was
ainz

thoran (you can use any tank that slower than the 2nd tank so oden can tele the enemy opposite this tank first)
rowan
brutus (any tank that faster than the first tank)
oden

retry for a few time until ainz ult kill 4 enemy left at once so it would count as kill 2 backline enemy first (cuz he kill skriath already if he can)

[dry forge]

Who do I use as support

[elfin cloak]

hlep

[pale kettle]

[elfin cloak]

put oden in the front maybe idk

[pale kettle]

[elfin cloak]

wat

[pale kettle]

Doesn't work

[elfin cloak]

sadge I'm bad

[pale kettle]

Any ideal heroes I should be using at this point?

[elfin cloak]

uhhhhh

[midnight bronze]

If you need a pic of my box lemme know

[fierce viper]

I would try to putting Daimon where Lucius is and the swapping Lucius for Lyca. If it doesn't work I'd try Rowan Brutus front, Daimon Rosalie Lyca back

[midnight bronze]

Everyone still gets onetapped

I'll have Arthur soon so maybe that will help

[dapper gulch]

Any suggestions on 3 team PVP? Right now, I usually stay around rank 25, and I can make someone +30 if needed. Oden also has full t3 gear and I have a couple crystal slots open for others.

[sterile sorrel]

What team would you use here? First image is what I’m using and stuck at 17-7

[warm yew]

Fawkes might be able to banish for you

[rugged cairn]

Getting a bit destroyed

[slim portal]

#lineup-help message

you ignored my reply, try it to see if it works

basically disable opponent mirael and saveas

[latent kayak]

@slim portal oh sorry I didn’t get the notifications mb

@slim portal no that doenst work that was my previous one I tried 15-20 times

What’s saveas

[slim portal]

did you forget to put equipment on your mirael?

[latent kayak]

I have duras call on her @slim portal

[slim portal]

that's pretty good, did she managed to cast skill?

also, did arden entangled opponent savaes and mirael?

[latent kayak]

No

[pale kettle]

Need some help

[latent kayak]

@slim portal ^^^^

[slim portal]

Rowan

Alna
Mirael
Daimon
Arden
If Alna couldn't cast immune in time, swap to brutus then

[latent kayak]

@slim portal nothing is working guess I gotta go afk for another 6 days

[slim portal]

i cant keep giving formation, you have to make minor adjustment for mirael to cast her skill
or you can use helper too, once per week

[latent kayak]

What’s that?

And mir does cast but she’s the last one up and dies

@slim portal it worked I switched equipment yess now I gotta do 40

[slim portal]

Friends > Short-term > Borrow your friend/guildmate strong hero

[latent kayak]

Can you do my wave 40? @slim portal

Nvm I got it

[pale kettle]

Help please

[ebon hazel]

You want to out Mirael in the back center, drop Wukong for Hogan or Brutus at this point, and swap Nara out for a second tank like Brutus or Thoran

So you are going to have
Thoran/Hogan/Golus/Brutus (Hogan Brutus best)
Arden/Oden/Tasi Mirael Daimon

If Vedan is a problem you could drop Mirael for Morrow, but don't know how well he works early game.

[pale kettle]

I don't have brutus

[ebon hazel]

Thoran or Golus?

Or Alna?

[pale kettle]

No, my box is right under the team setup.

[ebon hazel]

Yes but the last person is an E, and I see purple underneath there, you could have them if you scrolled down a bit more

From that then, go with Daimon Hogan front, Arden Mirael Oden

[pale kettle]

@ebon hazel

[ebon hazel]

Alright

Do Daimon Hogan Arden Mirael Oden then

[slim portal]

why did you spend diamonds to reset resonating immediately

[ebon hazel]

Put Hogan in front of vedan

[pale kettle]

Cuz I wanted too

[ebon hazel]

Or try swapping Daimon to back and Arden Hogan front

[pale kettle]

Kk

@ebon hazel

[slim portal]

give your hogan equipment please

wait, maybe it's level difference
mirael can suffer more damage than a tank hogan...

[ebon hazel]

It's getting better, put Diamon behind whoever lasts longer on the front

[pale kettle]

@ebon hazel I beat it

Cuz of wukong and that other girl

[celest lichen]

what heroes should i use?

[pale kettle]

Please help. I have been stuck here for the past hour...

[summer cedar]

consider swapping frontline. Also needs some rng for Fera to interrupt Luci's ult.

[summer cedar]

fera out for arden.

[pale kettle]

Thank you! I tried a few times but it is not even close. Anything else I can try?

[summer cedar]

does arden triple root in time? also show rest of box

[pale kettle]

Arden does not triple root on time. I am trying again to see if RNG helps.

[summer cedar]

can you tell what's stopping the triple root? also I was hoping you had a brutus

[rugged cairn]

Well they kind of die before that point, Also what do you mean swapping frontline, Switch their places?

[pale kettle]

Isabella was killing him. Moved him to the top. He was able to triple root but still could not finish off. Should I have Brutus on the wish list. I see everyone has him.

[summer cedar]

yes

[summer cedar]

if you can Nara Isa and Arden is triple rooting and you're still not winning, it probably comes down to levels.
you get a free brutus as a chapter reward p soon.

[summer cedar]

artis?

[pale kettle]

Sweet! Thank you for your help. I will stop trying then haha. I thought RNG could help but you are right I need more levels

[rugged cairn]

wdym

[summer cedar]

artifacts. button in the middle of the screen

[pale kettle]

I've been trying for hours and I've given up

[dire carbon]

Hmm

[leaden turtle]

Your carry is saveas might help to use him

[leaden turtle]

Artifact I'd guess

[pale kettle]

[dire carbon]

Lucius Brutus Oden Lyca Arden

If it doesn't work try like mix it around

[pale kettle]

What's the positions tho?

[dire carbon]

In order like i said

[pale kettle]

Ok

[pale kettle]

Help

[tight juniper]

You can try to replace flora for Lyca or Ferael. Lyca to boost your team or Fera to stun the enemies

[celest lichen]

Whats the best lineup i can make for this boss using the heroes i have?

[leaden turtle]

Saurus-cecilia-rowan-lyca-eironn- (maybe Rosa)

That's 6 😂 not Rosa then sorry

[woeful agate]

is there a suggested comp layout to counter Flora without having to utilize a maxed thoran with 5s call? or max alna? I am kinda stuck on 36-48, I can beat one of the Flora stages, just not the second.

[maiden marsh]

Without thoran or alna your options are slim unless your deficit is lower

[woeful agate]

my level is pretty low to most in the chapter. my rc is 369 lol

i am trying to bank on creativity to beat it

[little hinge]

Help

[leaden turtle]

I wouldn't use izold as a tank, Silas is a great healer

[tulip parcel]

Need help

[little hinge]

@leaden turtle so switch out izold for silas?

[leaden turtle]

I would you really shouldn't be stuck at this point, try using mirael or saveas as carry, great until lvl 160
Saveas is viable between 120 and 160

[earnest sage]

Daimon and rowan are 20 on sig

[elfin cloak]

pls help

nvm I beat it

this i need help on tho pls 🥺

[dull flame]

get a carry

[zealous iron]

Bro…

Just press battle

[minor whale]

Can I beat this stage?

[fiery wing]

help thanks

[fathom perch]

Any advice for this stage please?

[fiery wing]

u hab nara?

[fathom perch]

No Nara...

[fiery wing]

have you tried

standard eirron daimon comp?

fereal

thoran
eirron
brutus
Daimon

[fathom perch]

Tried, doesn't work.

[slim portal]

Have you considered to level up your average level?

So your front line thoran doesn’t dead in 0.5 seconds, also eironn can last longer in field

[fathom perch]

I've exhausted all my resources
I level up the units Everytime I have enough

[vagrant ibex]

@fathom perch
Brutus thoran
Daimon rowan ferael/tasi

@fiery wing
Thoran/grezhul brutus
Daimon fera nara

Or brutus lyca
Daimon fera nara

[pale kettle]

Help with lineup please 🥲 the blacked out one is not pernament

[vagrant ibex]

@minor whale
Lyca thoran
Nara rowan daimon
Or
Rowan thoran
Nara daimon lyca

@pale kettle
Rosa monke
Fire girl rowan antandra
You shud start to focus on getting copies of a gud carry

[pale kettle]

K

Ty

[fiery wing]

thanks

[fiery wing]

first of all reset all ur heroes except wu kong and level hin up as far as u can and just use wu kong and put anyone

[rigid imp]

my team doesn't work for you ?

[fiery wing]

my rowan isnt mythic yet

[rigid imp]

lul 🤣

[fiery wing]

need to wait 2 days 🤣

[austere root]

so how to deal with it? kelthur shadow cannot be attacked but flora won't get down too

[ebon cliff]

flora does go down, it's just that by the time she gets down ur lucretia is ded

[austere root]

pretty annoying then, need a real tank to deal with kelthur shadow while waiting flora go down, arrgh

if we look on the replay nara died on 1.19, flora go down at 1.16, she need 3 seconds to just go down,

[ebon cliff]

try postitioning ur lucretia differently @austere root

[fleet nymph]

Any help beating this stage?

Any help beating this stage?

[warm heart]

Stuck here for the past 3 days

[slim portal]

You should resonant hero like Thoran / Nara / Ferael which will help you more in early Champaign
Drop Talene / Athalia / Mezoth for them
Reset shemira level and feed her to daimon, ascending daimon to mystic
Makes your Silvina legendary next and level her up
And try this formation after
Ferael

Daimon
Nara
Thoran
Rowan

Highly recommended to read beginner guide in pinned message in #classic-questions

[warm heart]

Ty

[brazen sand]

Would it be worth Replacing anyone with Antandra or kelthur on my line up

[slim portal]

Wu Kong should be good enough for early level until roughly 100
Highly recommended to read beginner guide in pinned message in #classic-questions channel

[pale kettle]

I know anything can work in early campaign but I'm having trouble with the last 2 legends to put in my roster

[slim portal]

Stop simply ascending legendary, only do that to fodder hero and/or when you have 4 copies of daimon
Highly recommended to read beginner guide in pinned message in #classic-questions channel

[pale kettle]

Ok

[fair kayak]

any idea? Fawkes and Tasi are destroying me

[acoustic summit]

Lineup help pls, stuck on 9-24

[zealous harness]

First, Daimon not in front of Estrilda, she‘ll stun you at the beginning.
Try that maybe

Oden
Lyca
Ferael
Brutus
Daimon

And remove the weapon from Ferael, he‘ll terrorize first then. If Oden has no impact, get Nara in, either across Tasi or Fawkes

Ideas? The displayed setup worked for a friend, but I keep getting destroyed. Seeking for advice here

[languid talon]

Is Fawkes tombstoning ur Daimon?

[zealous harness]

Depends if Ferael get's him terrorized. It's more like as soon as the Lucius shields pops up, Fawked removes Daimon shield and their backline keep decimating me

Can't even get one down here

[vagrant ibex]

@zealous harness try
Daimon lyca
Nara rowan raku/brutus/tasi
Or
Rowan ferael
Daimon nara lyca

@fair kayak
Daimon brutus
Oden fera lyca

[zealous harness]

Second one worked

[lean lantern]

been stuck on this stage for almost a week and need some help

tried a lot of different formations multiple times but couldnt beat it

[acoustic summit]

Still stuck rip

[zealous harness]

Provide more information

[zealous harness]

What's causing the most problem?

[acoustic summit]

Ogi destroys anything in slot 1, Silvina destroys the entire back line especially back mid and bottom, Niru tears apart the bottom half

[zealous harness]

With more information I meant the campaign screenshot

[fiery wing]

help meeee thanks :))

[lean lantern]

ferael and niru if ainz doesnt use ult wipes my team but when isabelle uses her alt my whole team dies in less than a second

isabelle been the main problem in campaign so far for me

ainz's ult doesnt do enough damage to kill most of them, still stucl on 27 sig

[fiery wing]

@rigid imp heey help thanks

[clever beacon]

Will this ever work 😳

[zealous harness]

Ainz out, Daimon in. Remove Ferael weapon (will make him terrorize first) then build as follows:
Ferael
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

[lean lantern]

ill try that and is it only his weapon i jave to remove?

never knew that was a thing with ferael lol

[zealous harness]

Yes. It's some kind of hidden stat, didn't know either until I asked why the enemy ferael terrorizes first even though my team has Lyca and theirs not 😅

If it doesn't work, swap around but keep Daimon behind Brutus

[zealous harness]

Same setup.
Ferael (without weapon)
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

Used the above to push 4 whole chapters 😅

[acoustic summit]

Aaaagh can’t do this after 10 hours

[fiery wing]

really? why fereal no weapon

[acoustic summit]

So he terrorizes first

[lean lantern]

oh wow it worked only took 4 tries

ty @zealous harness

[zealous harness]

You're welcome 🙂

[fiery wing]

not working ooof

[acoustic summit]

Sry but lineup pwease

[next pelican]

Hey guys, i'm going to look for a second team, because i am at stage 30 and i like to try oden (portal comp) - main comp is a daimon comp. how can i build both teams with my hero pool?

[pale kettle]

Might have to make my damion L...

[acoustic summit]

You have some seriously amazing heroes like Silas and Rowan. However, at your stage of the game you also want to use wukong. Reset izold he is trash. Try:
Silas Rowan Talene for the back row, and wukong Baden front row. Level wukong as much as you can. Read the beginners guide in #classic-questions in full, it is so useful at your stage

[pale kettle]

@acoustic summit thank you!

[acoustic summit]

Also I’m pretty new so don’t trust me

If someone tells you I’m wrong listen to them

[fiery wing]

reset all heroes level up only wu kong and level other when u need to level up wu kong further and just put anyone

and btw at that point i suggest to ascend mirael

[pale kettle]

@fiery wing is that you on the profie picture?

[fiery wing]

ohhh i assume you know nothing about kpop

[pale kettle]

Its from Korea, end story?

So its not you, just an idol?

[fiery wing]

yeaa like that and when wu kong is not viable anymore ascend mirael upto l+ and level her as far as you can then put her in the back middle

[fiery wing]

no shes from taiwan

[pale kettle]

@fiery wing oke ty!

@fiery wing just pulled. Anything changes?

[rigid imp]

mine was
ferael

daimon
rowan
thoran
ezizh
and retry ~200 times for it to work

[fiery wing]

uhm.. change ur wishlist.. its thrash

[fiery wing]

oh my..

[pale kettle]

When my request for help was completely overlooked

[acoustic summit]

Ayy Lucius that’s nice, izold is sad tho he’s trash

[acoustic summit]

Go to #classic-questions and check beginners guide, they have a wishlist to follow

[rigid imp]

make daimon L doesn't make it too far, make your mirael to L+ instead

[pale kettle]

I can't

If I make damion I could get farther in story but my crystal might get stuck at 140

[rigid imp]

don't worry, mirael copy is pretty easy to get so that won't stuck for too long

[pale kettle]

I also don't have fodder for her

[vagrant ibex]

@clever beacon
Brutus lucius
Belinda rowan nara/tasi honestly belinda is not a gud carry and you make too much legendary

[gilded needle]

I know it’s destroyed I’m trying to make it work? Any help

[rugged cairn]

Safaya nuking me to oblivion

[acoustic summit]

Heeelp pls stuck for the whole day

[pseudo quarry]

no alna, as well as 4* call. rc 366

[ionic wolf]

Help pls chapter nine

Pls

[sacred verge]

Some help please and ty

[full quarry]

I need 140m damage for next title, but idk how to do that much

[indigo palm]

I’m new to the game and I’m stuck in world 3. Can someone please give me some advice on how to move forward?

[pale kettle]

[split seal]

thoughts on who i should keep or replace? I think i’m gonna commit to Wu Kong and Nemora but I dont know about the rest, also I really wanna replace Wu Kong for a better Graveborn hero.

is nemora even that good like i’m so confused sometimes

[pale kettle]

Does anyone knows soren and wrizz meta?

[pale kettle]

Ty

[high marlin]

Don't use ainz. Put another support

[pale kettle]

Thank you

[high marlin]

Also dont frontline diamon, you need to give him time to ramp up

[junior dew]

I'm going graveborn team daimon specifically for focus, is my current team comp alright? If not what could be changed.

[modern portal]

Any suggestions on this one? I keep getting beat right at the very end

[brave oriole]

@modern portal nemora charm on ferael is op

[modern portal]

I'll give that a try

I realize I used my nemora to get eironn to mythic so shes super weak 😬

[mortal mural]

How should I beat this? Been struggling

[dull flame]

you shouldn't be...
try this
merlin
albedo
ainz
arthur
fereal

[dull flame]

she doesn't have to be super high ascension, the beginning charm is enough, I've used her at elite way back in those chaps too

[modern portal]

Beginning charm? I think I'm missing smthin sorry what's the beginning charm?

[dull flame]

so nemora's main skill is healing, but she doesn't heal enough to compete with aoe healers like silas or talene, so mainly, users use her beguile ability that activates fairly early to charm a nasty hero when they attack. In this case, it's fereal. He has this ability that brings up a shadow behind him, it fears(stuns basically) 2-3 of your teammates, and also make them lose energy. With rng, you can charm fereal with nemora, and have him use this ability on his own teammates. Can come in clutch, but needs some playing around

[modern portal]

Ohh gotcha, does she need to be in a specific position or does she need to use her ability for it to happen?

[dull flame]

yes, exactly opposite of fereal. So if he at position 4, she at position 4 too

[modern portal]

Gotcha, lemme try

[mortal mural]

I need to beat two back line first, sorry for not saying that

[modern portal]

Tried this, got wiped out right away, dyou think I need to make changes with other characters too?

[dull flame]

try an athalia merc with si

[dull flame]

maybe lucius off with lyca instead

[modern portal]

Nope didnt work, but I did get further and ainz did get to use his special once and cut them down by half

[dull flame]

that's nice, see if that can happen again, but let him ult after that the stun happens

[modern portal]

The stun? As in nemoras thing?

Shes dying too quick for me to use her ability but I'll give it a try

[dull flame]

no, ainz half health thing also stuns

[modern portal]

Ohhh, wait I can control that? I thought the stun happens second after the ability

[dull flame]

nope, for you it should happen when battle timer hits 1:06, turn off auto until then(let everyone else ult tho)

[modern portal]

Cant make it to 1:06, I think I might be doing smthin wrong

[dull flame]

swap daimon and lyca position

[brave oriole]

@modern portal do you have Brutus? Try brutus front of ainz, lyca middle, and keep daimon there. So no rowan, just a test. Bcs due to lyca Frontline, shem will hit daimon at first. You can even try rowan front to see how's going, where daimon is

Shem will hit still daimon first

[modern portal]

I have brutus on legendary, I'll give that a shot

Without Rowan ainz doesnt power up

[brave oriole]

Ferael it's not 100% charmed

[modern portal]

Is there any way to fix that? Or do I just wait until I'm stronger

[brave oriole]

No, it's rng, nemora can charm Vedan or ferael atm. But honestly, ainz, it's too early to use. Shem can still hold Frontline like a queen

[dull flame]

especially if you have a rosa

[modern portal]

So like this?

[brave oriole]

Shem front of nemora

Daimon should finish all, but restart if didn't charmed ferael

And, keep rowan middle, Rosa not rlly necessary here I guess

[modern portal]

Managed to last much longer! Thank you

Just need to get that last bit now

[brave oriole]

U can put lyca front of daimon

And why your ult are off?

[modern portal]

Oh shoot I cant believe I forgot my thing wasnt on auto

That did the trick 😅

My bad, thank you all for the tips 😃

[brave oriole]

Np👍

[pale kettle]

What should I do for campaign, I'm currently on 6-38

[acoustic summit]

Looks p good IMO

[pale kettle]

Well frankly I have not a single clue what I'm doing

[acoustic summit]

Maybe use Belinda apparently she is good even in early game

[acoustic summit]

Congrats you actually did most things right

[pale kettle]

Let's go lol, well any ideas for like a simple lineup that could be good or like a hero tier list that explains their pros and cons

[split seal]

can i get help on constructing an ideal lineup? I really wanna use daimon

[sacred delta]

I just got a warek, do i replace him with anyone in my team or just keep it the same

[acoustic summit]

Help please been stuck for more than a day

[fair kayak]

Athelia destroying me here

[brave oriole]

Use Brutus instead of lyca?

[split seal]

why havent you ascended lyca?

[sacred delta]

I just got a warek, do i replace him with anyone in my team or just keep it the same

[pale kettle]

Can u show the rest of ur box

[sacred delta]

Like the leveled or non-leveled

[pale kettle]

Your box

[pale kettle]

Have u read pins in #classic-questions

And I would suggest using wu Kong until lv 100

If you want to use shemira be my guest but be informed she falls off ch 22

[sacred delta]

Like lvl 100 player or the character

[zealous iron]

character

[pale kettle]

Character

[sacred delta]

And which part of the pins that i need to read

[pale kettle]

The 2 guides there from nerds and pippi (too lazy to say the whole name)

[sacred delta]

Oh, i just read it recently and btw, i dont rlly understand about the ascending fodders

[pale kettle]

Ascend the legendary tier heroes or the ones that starting out as blue

[sacred delta]

So whats the benefit of that?

are they as good as the ascended characters or what

[pale kettle]

Well you can use them as food later

Also if you get super lucky ig I can use the ascended tier heroes

[sacred delta]

Wdym food tho, like fodders for ascending better characters?

[pale kettle]

Yes

[sacred delta]

Ohhh ok

But yea back to main question, do i keep my comp like that or use the warek

[pale kettle]

I think warek is only good for bosses don’t ask me for that cause never used him just he’s annoying in campaign

[sacred delta]

Aight thanks mate, cya

[pale kettle]

Anyone specific I should use?

[fair kayak]

Same results :(

[fair kayak]

Waiting for 8 copies also not enough fodder

[acoustic summit]

You should also use Mehira (she is great), wukong(swap when he gets to lvl 100)

[fiery wing]

need help here thanks

[sacred delta]

Is this comp good enough?

[west fog]

for what...

[brave wagon]

I mean if it works it's good enough

[coral pier]

The real question is how do you make a comp bad enough to not work in early game?

[sacred delta]

Lol im just tryna ask if the comp gonna work well till lvl 100

[pale kettle]

Need help for secondary lineup

[acoustic summit]

5 commons lvl 1, won’t work after like a couple stages

[pale kettle]

Need some help

[torn eagle]

AE final boss for 130M dmg with lvl 5 mage relics, lineup help.

[sacred delta]

Do i need to change the position of my chars or its ok rn

[frail lodge]

hello wanna ask, is there any laneup without daimon for form 1 or 2?
for 36-48?

[stone coyote]

Could anyone help please

[wooden summit]

Idk anything abt good characters or good lineups so pls help

[strong meadow]

need help stuck on 18-40

[signal canopy]

Lucius for Brutus and switch Izold/Shem position

[strong meadow]

didnt work my team just dies too fast. ill probably be stuck until next week when i can use someones op unit. i just had to use the one for this week some stages earlier.

[deft veldt]

I need help making a good pve lineup

[pale kettle]

Read pins in #classic-questions @deft veldt

@strong meadow
Lyca/ferael
Lucius
Ferael/nara
Brutus
Shemira

[high storm]

What should i change?

[velvet belfry]

You don’t need saveas. Or wukong. Use daimon Lucius frontline Lyca Rowan mirael back line and get your wishlists fixed

[high storm]

Wdym by getting my wishlist fixed?

[scarlet kraken]

Hi! I will appreciate all kind of comments or advices about my development of heros, most of it Im using all that are in red. Thank u for your time.

[wooden summit]

Someone help 🧍

[fiery wing]

help Thank you! 😁

[rigid imp]

use nara instead of ferael ?

[vagrant ibex]

Brutus rowan
Fera daimon nara
Or
Brutus fera
Daimon rowan nara

[fiery wing]

thanks how about here

[halcyon plaza]

I spent 100 diamonds resetting my old heroes, following what the guide said but I died even faster at this campaign stage. What did I do wrong? Could someone pls help?

[rigid imp]

put daimon at the bottom slot, he won't get perma stun from the freaking gunner

[fiery wing]

thanks, how about this one?

[fiery wing]

use ur daimonq

[rigid imp]

i use rowan in the middle slot and put daimon at bottom slot

[fiery wing]

fawkes is soo annoying

[rigid imp]

yeah if your daimon can't use shield before he got trapped then give him more haste
my daimon have full t2 set there (well the boot actually the one that really matters tho)

[pale kettle]

I'm stuck asf

[solemn obsidian]

@summer cedar soo what suggestions do you have for my team should i send u my full box?

[summer cedar]

golus hogan rowan mira arden should win this.

[summer cedar]

yeah send box

[summer cedar]

eironn is terribad at E, just feeds te enemies energy. try swapping for rowan.

[pale kettle]

[summer cedar]

brutus tasi daimon lyca fera or something like that

[summer cedar]

try Lucius Daimon rosa mira rowan

[summer cedar]

try arden or tasi instead of fera

[summer cedar]

have u been running daimon or mira carry?

[solemn obsidian]

daimon

but its rough since cant really ascend him now... game hasnt been kind with copies, daimon silas ferael brutus/rowan skreg is my team rn

[summer cedar]

do rc 140 then. frontline brutus skreg, back daimon mira rowan shud work. if rowan's not cutting it you can try silas, but I never got the chance to use him that early

[solemn obsidian]

what about going foward ? should i just pray and hope for daimon copies or ascend tidus/get 4th copy of gweneth/eironn from chapter 12 reward chest i guess switching from GB is kinda shitty when uve invested already this much

[summer cedar]

don't need to make such a decision until rc160. maybe your luck will turn before then

[rigid imp]

sadly at this rate all heroes except for daimon just put there to feed enemy energy (they did their job then die immediately)

[autumn delta]

Hey guys new to the game. I've been struggling recently with campaign and I think I might have to change my hero mains. Is there a good lineup with my available heroes?

[fossil umbra]

How do I pass this ridiculous wave

[rigid imp]

instead of zikis, use cecilia on vurk

[fossil umbra]

It's not working

[rigid imp]

then might try tasi ?
i have no idea how to setup a working comp with your heroes since i don't have much knowledge about your core heroes

[elfin cloak]

where's the best place for eironn

ignore the other team for now pls

[quartz spade]

Is there anything i could change in my team my team comp is the 5 strongest

[plain venture]

Mage relics are base lvl 5 tank has 4lvl4 relics support is base lvl 4 agility has 1lvl3 and might has 3 lvl3 what’s my highest dmg vs the boss

The screen shots are old everyone has enough stamina now

[keen bluff]

Help

[dull flame]

merlin
lyca
prince
brutus
ainz
for first team

daimon
rowan
fereal
thoran
flora
for second team

[fleet nymph]

Any suggestions on how to beat this stage I’ve tried multiple formations and can’t get it down

[dull flame]

daimon
izold
nara
lyca
fereal

[fleet nymph]

lol thanks it worked

[dull flame]

np

[fleet nymph]

Should I use it for most of campaign?

[dull flame]

sure, nara can be taken out with oden sometimes, and positions can change

[ebon hazel]

What artist should I have here?

[fleet nymph]

Who should I put grace on?

[dull flame]

silas probably needs +30...and call. Grez barricade....herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m6rOgWcrXk

[ebon hazel]

Doesn't matter, grace is pretty garbage

[dull flame]

daimon for now

[dull flame]

artifact is better than none

[ebon hazel]

Would Silias 30 be more important for this than Daimon 30?

[dull flame]

probably....I did it once with daimon 303, grez 209, alna 309, silas 303, fereal 209

[ebon hazel]

Fareal 209 I'm kinda far from.

[dull flame]

not too needed

[ebon hazel]

And call on Silas

[dull flame]

ye, check out the vid

did it too long ago to remember well

[candid flint]

Pls help

[rigid imp]

how many retry have you done? cuz your team can beat it imo with some rng

[dull flame]

swap positions of eironn and lyca

[candid flint]

Um i tried for 2 days

[dull flame]

lmao

[candid flint]

Also sofia bomb melts my daimon

[dull flame]

try this

[dull flame]

eironn
rowan
daimon
thoran
fereal

[candid flint]

This is dam sad-considering its not a boss

[rigid imp]

it shouldn't be that bad with ferael (need high haste to out-fear enemy ferael tho)

[candid flint]

Its not like its rng

[rigid imp]

stage 27 doesn't take me too much retry, my highest retry stage was only 193

[candid flint]

Prob my heros r low lvl

Finally

[fossil thicket]

is this possible somehow? dont watch the lineup i just put the top few in

[worldly apex]

you got eironn free?

[keen bluff]

I don’t have a good liyca

[fossil thicket]

i could try to win the first without eironn

[worldly apex]

1 sec let me check round 1

you might be able to charmraku r1, afkhelper also has a lot of izold clears

[fossil thicket]

i have eironn free now but i used lyca

[worldly apex]

does your eironn outpull their eironn? with gear haste you might outspeed

[fossil thicket]

doesnt look like he does

[fossil thicket]

nvm he does in the in the backline

[worldly apex]

you can try to 5pull them in then

or use nara for mehira, stops her spawning bats

[fossil thicket]

well ii dont have skriath free for this

[worldly apex]

should be fine without

[fossil thicket]

but what shoulsd i put in now?

[keen bluff]

Also thoran is bonded to prince

[worldly apex]

you can use eironn back middle and nara for mehira, then rowan, daimon and tasi might work

[fossil thicket]

thx

[pale kettle]

Can somebody help me with a lineup

[scarlet kraken]

Im stuck

[grizzled mulch]

Wasoup my guys... Need mega help with my trash heros... Need 4formations

@pale kettle Rowan... Thoran... Oden... Lyca... Wukong

Nvm guys... My ss of my heros won't go through... But I'm souper desperate... So if you can help... Pls pm me

[pale kettle]

In that order? Rowan front and wukong back row?

[whole bramble]

help please

[pale kettle]

So in general I'd say I need a new team. I'm on chapter 29. My main team is Daimon, Shemira, Lucius, Rowan, Belinda

[devout path]

The main issue is all of the M’s and L’s that you’ve created. That’s set your progress back considerably.

[pale kettle]

Oh?

I thought it was okay to ascend when needed

[pale kettle]

Or when available I should say

[devout path]

Definitely not. A couple is fine here and there but there’s quite a lot of roadblocks. Especially considering that the heroes you have stuck at M could have gotten you into the mid 30’s if applied right.

[empty pulsar]

The goal is to go L+ straight to A though.

[pale kettle]

Did not know that

[empty pulsar]

It's a rather large setback to have a lot of heroes stuck at M/M+

Shemira also falls off around 23/24, so she likely isn't contributing much anymore

[pale kettle]

So it would be best to get them to A and then only get to L+ when I know I get get them to A?

[slim portal]

Rowan

Albedo
Ainz
Brutus/Thoran
Nara/Merlin
Basically Nara to disable Ferael or Merlin to survive long enough for ainz to nuke

[whole bramble]

@slim portal tried the merlin one a lot of times but no succes so far

[pale kettle]

Also I'll probably replace her with Farael or Morrow @empty pulsar

[slim portal]

Probably your frontline doesn’t last long enough, Ferael is annoying one there in opponent team

Is your rowan SI 10/20/30?

[pale kettle]

Mine is +30

He was the first one I think. Then Lucius

[devout path]

Another noticeable issue is that your Lucius is 309

[slim portal]

Sry, I was asking baas. But rowan si30 first is always a good choice

[pale kettle]

Don't know what you mean

[devout path]

Your Lucius being at 30 Signature Item and 9 furn is very bad

[slim portal]

You need to explain but not just saying bad

[whole bramble]

@slim portal Rowan is +20, and yeah my frontline lasts way too short

[pale kettle]

Wait how do you know he's at that? I only showed my roster

[whole bramble]

actuslly Rowan is +19

[devout path]

I didn’t think I’d need to explain why having a sub optimal character and a near max is bad

[devout path]

Top left corner, the wings indicate he’s at 30, the two red crystals means 9 furn

[pale kettle]

Oh

[midnight bronze]

It’s too much investment for someone who usually falls off very hard late game, he is just too squishy, he can maybe still be used in LB tower tho @pale kettle

[slim portal]

Make sure shemira’s laser hit Brutus/Thoran instead of Albedo. But ye, they need to last long enough for ainz to cast skill

[pale kettle]

Damn, I really wish Lucius was good. He's literally my favorite character in the game.

[whole bramble]

@slim portal Ainz usually gets 1 cast off but it pnly gets about 1 kill

[slim portal]

How about your daimon SI? Is he 20 yet?

[whole bramble]

nope.. +10 only

like Ainz gets a cast but no kills

[pale kettle]

I still have no idea how that garrison stuff works. I have no dimensional and I feel like they really made Arthur a frickin grind to get

[midnight bronze]

It didn’t take me long, I just got him

[slim portal]

Ainz needs 2 cast I guess, have you tried Nara? Disable Ferael, so he won’t disturb your ainz gaining energy to cast skill

Also, ainz with dura’s call right?

[whole bramble]

@slim portal I will try, and yeah hes got dura's call

who do I not use for Nara?

[slim portal]

Merlin

[whole bramble]

@slim portal I dont have enoug healing without Merlin, I just get nuked

[slim portal]

Or you can copy my comp, I was Lv.200 daimon with SI20 tho

[whole bramble]

Can you show me? Ill try to copy it and see if it works

[slim portal]

Brutus

Thoran
Daimon
Eironn
Nara
Basically Brutus and Thoran keep enemy busy while daimon slowly building up attack rate and Defense from SI20, eironn and Nara disturb Fareal

[whole bramble]

what was ur rc level?

[slim portal]

RC?

[whole bramble]

resonating crystal

[slim portal]

18 I think, I can’t recall

[whole bramble]

no I mean what level was the lowest hero on the crystal?

[slim portal]

I was abusing daimon with rowan + eironn and clear chap 22

Oh sry, I thought you meant tree

It was 200 daimon and the others 180

[whole bramble]

qh same for me then but I just get smoked

[slim portal]

Ainz works but I think you need Albedo SI30

[whole bramble]

yeah and shes at SI 1 atm lol

[slim portal]

Early level daimon is god imo

[whole bramble]

even 5 star 309 merced Daimon doesnt beat it...

he finally did it yay

[slim portal]

Lucretia couldn’t beat it too?

[slim portal]

He’s lower than mine 170

[whole bramble]

how the hell did he take like no damage

[slim portal]

Eironn OP

My Brutus is E+ tho

[whole bramble]

fair enough idk at least I beat it now with a merc thanks a lot for ur help

[dull flame]

doesn't matter

[dull flame]

swap prince for something then

[keen bluff]

What do I use then

[dull flame]

lyca just needs to be elite.....do you have that?

[keen bluff]

Yeh

[dull flame]

then everything is fine, swap out prince for literally anything

[keen bluff]

I lost the first fight

[dull flame]

then retry it

[dull flame]

or try this:
merlin
brutus
ainz
lyca
rosaline
make rosa follow ainz

[keen bluff]

I did that

I’ve done it about 10 times no luck I’ll keep trying

[dull flame]

try swapping merlin and rosaline

[keen bluff]

I tried it Still no luck but ainz gets his ult off it just doesn’t kill like any

[dull flame]

can you record a video?

[dull flame]

swap position of brutus and lyca

[keen bluff]

No luck

Record it again?

[dull flame]

what's your artifacts

[dull flame]

no wonder....brutus gets barricade, rosaline gets call, lyca eye

[keen bluff]

Ok

Still isn’t working

[dull flame]

rip

[fleet nymph]

any suggestions On how to beat this stage

[dull flame]

stop putting daimon frontline, especially against things that bring cc like ogi. Try
fereal
lyca
nara
izold
daimon

[fleet nymph]

Alrigjt

Alright I’ll stop putting daimon front line and It worked thanks

[dull flame]

np

[undone sleet]

Looking for help with this one:

[dull flame]

oden
lyca
rowan
thoran
daimon
Arthur is mainly used to buff a mage character/dps that is behind him, your lyca isn't strong enough and rowan is a support

[dull flame]

don't put daimon frontline, especially against cc(hogan) or burst(belinda)
oden
lyca
rowan
thoran
daimon
If that doesn't work, try this
oden
brutus
lyca
thoran
daimon

[fossil thicket]

any ideas here?

[dull flame]

yes. don't mix 2 teams together

[fossil thicket]

wdym?

[dull flame]

ainz teams use support that buff damage. Daimon teams don't need that because he scales based off of enemy stats. However, daimon needs cc support to help him survive. So either put a cc team for daimon, or put a dps team for ainz, don't mix both. Also rowan can frontline tank once he's ascended because of his passive, putting daimon against saveas isn't a good idea

[fossil thicket]

ahh thanks, yeah i just tried everything around im not that good at teambuilding

[dull flame]

it's alright, learn from others and past experience. Do tell me, do you have a copy of mehira and windbinder?

[fossil thicket]

yes both

[dull flame]

you have lyca spared?

[fossil thicket]

i can try to win the first fight without lyca

[dull flame]

do try

a lorsan and safyia can help in luc cheese

[fossil thicket]

i dont have lorsan, and i got lyca now

[dull flame]

k thats good

try this:
raku
lyca
mehira
rowan
daimon
mehira windbinder

[midnight bronze]

@dull flame it worked thanks

[dull flame]

np

[fossil thicket]

mehira doesnt ult hmm

[dull flame]

does she get rowan potion?

[fossil thicket]

i guess yeah

[dull flame]

you can see, there should be a blue dot above her head at 1:26

[midnight bronze]

Last fight for ch 25 and it's a struggle

[lilac ruin]

Kinda stuck at the moment any suggestions

[fossil thicket]

no she just gets healed

[dull flame]

safyia and tidus frontline, saf gets call

[dull flame]

who gets potion?

[fossil thicket]

daimon

[dull flame]

swap position of thoran with lyca and daimon with oden

[dull flame]

take call off him and give him barricade

[fossil thicket]

daimon?

[dull flame]

ye

[midnight bronze]

My team dies faster then when thoran and daimon were on top

[fossil thicket]

yeah now mehira gets the potion but the fight ends too fast

[midnight bronze]

I kinda just get instakilled anywhere

[dull flame]

hmm, try
daimon
thoran
rowan
tasi
fereal

[dull flame]

retry, swap fereal for oden

[fossil thicket]

still with barricade?

[fossil thicket]

now daimon is perma in web

[midnight bronze]

@dull flame I did
Nara
Daimon
Rowan
Thoran
Rosa
And it worked, thanks tho

[dull flame]

np

[dull flame]

with call this time:
fereal
tasi
rowan
thoran
daimon

[fossil thicket]

should i +10 or +20 thoran? im too weak i guess

[dull flame]

none doesnt matter

[fossil thicket]

hmm, cant kill anyone i think im too weak

[dull flame]

no not really.....try playing around a bit...I have to go, but you can always dm me if you ever need help or a second opinion

[fossil thicket]

thxm ate

[shadow summit]

So I left this game for about a year ish to come back to having a item called the reset scroll which literally lets me transfer all my stats from 1 character to another Im going to get rid of lucius since i do not need him anymore and want to know who I should use it on this is my current loadout and team
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855640854094020609/886742378306736148/Screenshot_20210912-153730_AFK_Arena.jpg?width=320&height=676

i can also get any epic hero thats has a normal faction from a selection chest

[pale kettle]

The struggle

It worked, ty so much 💋💋💋

[brave oriole]

Well, best option tbh, it's raku, the Wilder

[shadow summit]

Ah

for my comp @brave oriole ?

[brave oriole]

For scroll

[shadow summit]

oh

im more looking for a good person for my comp not oh wait hes op get him XD

[brave oriole]

Daimon it's on work, so I see raku good to get

[shadow summit]

? i dont really use daimon i use a ainz comp

shes just a toy im leveling up to have fun with

um ok

pretty sure that it would be pointless just @pale kettle since ainz is just quicklly get ult 1 shot everyone next game

idk what daimon would conrtribe since shes a late game wait for fightt to go long

XD

[crude hearth]

Thoughts on who I should focus on? I currently use the top row + Isabella

[shadow summit]

eiron

i think his name is will be a carry all the way through the game the leaf with a sword guy xD

[elfin cloak]

nvm

[crude hearth]

Yeah I've been trying to work on him, but he just doesn't fit into my line up so far

[deft veldt]

Just a got farael, what should My lineup be?

[pale kettle]

Am i stuck because of lvl or just the team building is bad

[crude hearth]

Daimon + Rowan are the two I'm currently most focused on

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle reset to 120 mirael and push shem to 160.then use a team like shem alna front, rosaline rowan and some cc, fawkes lyca, elite would be okay

U can also put rowan back of shem and Rosa middle 👍

[pale kettle]

Allright ty

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle don't make estrilda mythic, save mirael for rowan ascension. Also remove estrilda from wishlist if she's there

[pale kettle]

Rowan should be the first mythic ?

[brave oriole]

Yeah

[pale kettle]

Aight do you know why rogue like silvina nara etc is really not effective at my lvl ?

[brave oriole]

Nara is good for pulling something and cancel their skill, like safiya Isabela arden etc. Silvina it's meh, no use I guess

Try to get daimon ascended, so leave shem legendary +

[pale kettle]

I wanted to put nara or cecilia for focusing saveas but not working, maybe its not the solution

[brave oriole]

U have shem for now, should be fine for a few chapters with rosaline following and rowan support

[pale kettle]

Lol i did this it worked thanks

[brave oriole]

She's doing rlly well Frontline

[pale kettle]

Shem can be put in frontline ?

[brave oriole]

Maybe not a queen anymore , but still a little princess

Yeah, she self heal

[pale kettle]

Do you have some link where i can learn more about team building?

U just solved my problem with team changes i wan't to know more about it :p

@brave oriole

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle there should be beginner guides pinned on discord, check out

[deft veldt]

What lineup do I need to pass this stage?

[brave oriole]

Don't lvl everyone at once, focus on one hero, wukong is good lvl 100 for ex, but maybe daimon too. Is elite +your daimon?

Leave all 60,until something it's 100,then lvl all to 80,and push the lvl 100carry at 120, and so on@deft veldt

[pale kettle]

Help

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle try rowan back of daimon, and replace maybe oden with silvina Frontline down

She won't die insta, sure thing

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle swap top with bottom heroes

[deft veldt]

It’s only elite

[pale kettle]

Wdym

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle I mean swap daimon with silvina positions, rowan with ferael

But move rowan back of daimon

@deft veldt aha. Well, u can reset 2 heroes back to 60,and put more lvls into wukong, for now. Until he's 100,hes fine, then you will make daimon your overlvled hero, if lucky to pull one copy more, and get it legendary