#lineup-help
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yeah thats still good, its a good comp but brutus is way better
What could i do against Mehira ? Daimon lost 95% hp from no where idk Who did those dmg
Help please. Line up changes or change units?
Thanks, will do 
someone please help
have you tried the daimon + eirron combo?
try
daimon
brutus
eirron
thoran/lyca
nara
i believe that daimon cant ult because of fereal
worked thanks
Please can someone help me
@fiery wing yes
Can anyone help mine please
@fathom perch try it with lyca, brutus front. Same backline
Hmm lyca dies instantly
still stuck here
@fathom perch lyca doesn't need to live. She's there for her haste buff.
Ah okay. I'll try again
Help bro I’m stuck
Anyone
anybody?
@twilit forum do you have access to a nara or athalia? So you can interrupt mehira's bats
got athalia at leggy and nara elite+ but not in crystal so its lvl 1
where do i put athalia then, and do i change my other hero's?
Try it with your ath then. See if you can interrupt mehira and stop her from summoning her bats. Also, I assume izold just dies there immediately? In which case you prolly need a better tank to soak sav? Myb your own brutus?
Gdamit I didn't notice it was a multi, mb. Your ss was dark and I'm blind. 
Give ath an eye
idk why my ss get so darktbh
Help pls idk how to counter a mehira
anything els i need to do?
Put nara with call and t1 boots across from her, and use lyca if she's still not fast enough to interrupt her
@maiden marsh and what else i should used with Nara ?
Drop one of the tanks for her
What’s a good counter for the Brutus? I’m getting destroyed here
Nara grab Mehira and nearly killed her but my team got one shot@maiden marsh
And when i used lyca idk Mehira don't lose a single hp in the grab and still one shot my team
am not dealing enough damage
monke
Her not losing HP initially is good, it means she didn't summon her bats
@maiden marsh but she still one shot my team
She's getting whip off before nara stunlocks her?
Nara grab then everyone die in the grab
Is that gorvo or mehira killing your team
Try dropping oden for ferael. Fera should have an easier time dodging the fatass turtle
Ferael thoran
Daimon rowan/nara lyca
Any ideas? She demolishes my team in record time
Can someone Help me please
@vagrant ibex it doesn't work gorvo keep keep killing saumon and without cc on mehira she solo the team
Can't i merc something that could killed mehira and gorvo ?
Like Lucretia or something
still stuck
this is what i have availbe to use
i've gotten down to only warek and saveas bieng alive but couln't make it
Been playing for a while now I'm just needing some advice on who I should be working as I'm kinda In a rut on who to build out more or if I just need to start on some one new any advice is greatly appreciated thank you for you time and have a awesome day.
First team gets destroyed by the 9f ainz but I don’t have anyone tanky enough for the second team, damage is also a problem
I would suggest either unlink daimon or use a dimensional key on him, bc hes the other carry you have for what i can see
Drop Rowan for Alna, he won't do much tanking that early
@ebon hazel it still doesn’t work
Then use a different tank, Thoran golus, might need multiple attempts
Izold and Grez are pretty massive in GB tower, and that Isa and Baden aren't heloing you
Do Thoran Fareal Daimon Oden Nara @floral cargo
And yes I did have to leavve.
Is oden Nara daimon lyca and ferael a good team and if so who should I put duras grace on
Can someone help me please i m really stuck and i can t beat this level
Too squishy, check the pins in #classic-questions Level Golus Mirael Arden Silvana and Hogan, then put Daimon Fareal and Oden on crystal
wait why?
Explains in the pins of #classic-questions
In questions or lineup help
Thoran Golus Daimon Rowan Arden, you lack a lot of CC
merc ainz doesn t help? Btw stop making L heroes, you ll fck yourself up
I keep it for the level 40
I will try it thanks
But who front ?
Thoran and golus, clear your team and select in that order
help!
Drop Niru Arden and Shemira for Arden Golus and Mirael
drop arden?
Wukong for arden*
ok
whos my carry, mirael or daimon?
need help for killing 2 backlines first
anyone that can help?
Don’t have anyone else to link ainz to though, also just realized I can merc someone still, lucretia maybe?
Pwease help
Anyone know if it's possible to Raku this?
Thanks
Help pls
Proof’s teacher said that having 2 carries is pointless tho
Same team, but Call Kren and Warden on Oden, I'll try those
Uhh the only note I have for this stage was that Talene Thoran solution doesn't work.
You thoran'd 3, I couldn't get thoran to work on 4 for the life of me
Help pls)
Ditch Eironn and Nemora, put in arden and Mirael/Daimon
Overlevel Wu Kong might be easier at this early stage
And do you know if you can do the 5th fight without Rowan?
Well 5th fight only 2x deficit. Almost anything will work
Oh yeah, I forgot Nara countered Mehira and just tried to brute force my way through with Skreg while I have her and lyca avaliable
Please someone can help me
Nah
Thoran Brutus Ainz Rowan Arden @keen abyss
Nvm i got it
that for me? my ainz has got like no furniture and his SI is only at +6
See you in 37 tommorow
You know I"m looking to my 35 since it's the same, but wtf was I doing in that lucretia team
Stop making everyone L without enough copies for L+ (refer to beginner guide pinned in #classic-questions)
Can t use ainz and i don t have brutus sorry
Anyway to counter this athalia? She insta kills everyone which leads to ainz getting killed
Any ideas?
I need some advice
Do not level more than 5 heroes
If you can't give him Rowan then Izold probably won't work. Pippa and Oden or Mehira/Raku might work
i did get this sugestion from guildies, i tried it but wasnt nearly as sucesfull, i ended up scrapping the stage to try save some heroes from different fights
Diamon is too far above anyone else to use any other damage heroes. Use Brutus with Rowan+Tasi and Merlin Gwen or Oden
I’m almost to an A oden too
I’m having some trouble
20 levels is so much that the other damage heroes probably aren't doing much. Besides you don't want Erionn pulling enemies near Diamon usually. See if Lyca and Rowan work better
No one saw that
stuck on this stage
Keep getting shem, fer and isabelle lineups and theyre a pain in the ass especially isabelle insta killing ult
Really need help on this one, last level of the stage
Guys, I started a New f2p Account today. Any Suggestions for lvl changes (inclusive resets maybe)?
Btw how to gain more hero essence?
What do u think about Peggy? Shes New to me, came in my Pause time from the Game
Solo level up wukong and take a look at the guide in the pins in #classic-questions
Also change your wishlist according to the pins
Ok
Not working
Any help?
Switch daimon with hogan
And then switch daimon with arden
@gaunt dragon still doenst work tried every position for everybody several times
Y do u have Alna on ur crystal?
Everyone the closest I’ve been was the horse girl and mir was alive and that’s it killed 3 and the last 2 destroyed my team and my mir can’t get her ult off
Just started ch 31 and struggling with the second team my main team is fareal daimon rowan thoran and silas/nara depending on whichever is more relevant, but I need a more dependable second team
did you just lucretia a flora
garrison ainz and albedo
Is this lineup good
100 deficit is a magical place
..........................no.
there isn't a reason to put a daimon, rosa, and ainz in one team
build up your teams. Daimon doesn't have enough cc/support to get him rolling, and ainz doesn't have albedo and other heroes that buff his damage
Yeah? not uncommon
Am I suppost to borrow albedo
I’m too broke though
glances at thoran, alna gb, daimon raku mehira....
garrison her
Thoran sucks ass
Didn;t have Alna 9f, or Raku 30
thoran going to save your life in chap 37
That's what I'm afraid of.
tbh all you need is his +30, 3/9, and call 5*
I only have 30, it took me a year to get 2f, and call is still 480 pieces off of 5*
get call frag from the event, it won't hurt to have it 5*, going to help you in boss battles, and clutch situations for lots of heroes
Yeah I know, but here's no event here
Mercing a kelthur with 5* call helps somehow?
because call 5* makes it so that when the hero dies, energy is transferred to other teammates. It enables 3 and 4 man teams of thoran lorsan and kelthur. Kelthur dies, and gives his energy to thoran, reduces the need of pippa or rowan for energy.
you don't need both heroes to have 5* call for this to happen, so a merc is fine
^
is their a better lineup? or i just need innvesment
You need grez 9f, Saurus might be better before hand if he doesnt get executed
merc a grez, he's pointless without the 9/9
but he dies if didnt merc a talene
Try with Saurus
what lineup should i use?
Same but drop Greez for Saurus and hope it;s still talene that gets executed
i dont have saurus built hes e+
anyways help here thanks
what.....are you doing
i'm pushing :v
try this instead:
daimon
thoran
fereal
lyca
grez
i'm trying to hold on until i got SI30 rowan, but i will try to push also as far as i can
I mean the team you were using
ohhh idk thats the team i used before that stage
ah, try what I said
not working ezizh tasi is such a bummer
hmm, eironn safyia would get this really easily
i have safiya tho but e+
eironn safyia is a really old comp, I don't think anyone above s700 would use it much
i saw afkhelper they most using standard eirron comp 😦
I w
oden
rowan
fereal
daimon
silas
swap silas and ferael
Didn’t even kill one
how many times do you retry?
Idt lvl 121 L Daimon will do better than 160 Mirael
Does your Mirael die before ult or sth?
@unborn sequoia yes
Who killed her?
Just lost it again
alna....isn't too good in some cases. She decreases haste of your team as well
@dull flame yea idk put everyone I had in my crystal and it still doenst work
it's best to just wait a bit, lvl up everyone
Any suggestions?
lucius
gwyn
rowan
rosa
cecilia
May not work cause your rowan is super low invested, get that man to +30
Is there anything wrong with my formation
Try this
Ok
try dropping gwyn for lyca
@pale kettle it didn’t work
That didn’t work either
Try swapping daimon with rowan and put Rowan in the middle and put gwyneth across from the dude with the staff
my team just dies too fast
Then try swapping thoran with lucious, and putting Rowan in back mid
yeah i guess ill just wait to level my carries die within 8 seconds
:<
@viral dock use brutus then ... jist make sure gorvo dont slam on daimon places
Something like brutus thoran daimon nara fera , thoran cheese is also gud try to pull 5
Thoran lorsan lyca eiron eagle
spam the retries
cause you didn't build the right units/get their investements. Ainz team doesn't have albedo, and ainz is super low investment, 5 pull doesn't have tidus, gorvo or queen, you could do daimon rowan for one team tho, but it requires 3* windbinder, if you have a follow up, dm me instead of replying
my follow up, is I have none of those investments and i'm fukd.
working on getting albedo through garrison, however.
dm me your artifacts, stages and heroes again, I'll help you tomorrow, I've sorted out a lot of people this way, it's midnight here, so I can't do anything right now
yeah of course, thanks man.
np
1.arthur brutus
Ainz fera lyca
- Daimon thoran
3.eiron 5 pull might be work
Swap ainz and dat fat hypo
Rosa(follow daimon) brutus
Lyca tasi daimon
But my tasi gets one shot?
try it first
Got destroyed though
Positioning
Rosa brutus
Lyca tasi daimon
Or daimon brutus
Lorsan tasi/nemo rosa
try this team if you you have these hero
silas
daimon
nara
thoran
brutus
silas,nara,thoran,brutus work at any tier (even at elite)
daimon and silas use call (mine was 2*)
No Silas though
i thought he's the one on gb wishlist after A daimon 
Do I replace him with ains?
why use ainz when he can't even ult 
He can because he’s my carry
then try this
ainz
daimon
nara
brutus
tasi
daimon should bear all raine attack so ainzcan do his job, and he prevent lucius using his ult (pretty much ruin the whole fight)
wut? she got one shot from enemy tasi ?
cuz i'm pretty sure that brutus draw athalia and thane long enough for her to use banish (well that is the only thing she has to do in that fight)
Is this possible ?
I would love some help with this
heyy tell me a good sub for rowan :((( i'm having a hard time now
idk, i put rowan there cuz he provide enough energy for daimon to ult asap
yea ik too bad my only energy source from daimon is lyca
+30 rowan is a must so you should work on that too 
he consume all my red and yellow so now i can't +30 another heroes, even +20
i have the emblems but not the copies ffs lilith i still need to wait 8 days for hcp reset 
Hi, my current LU is Daimon, Hogan, Golus, Arden & Silvina. Am I doing all right?
Help please! Stuck for days 😦
silas
daimon
nara
thoran
brutus
silas and daimon use call
hope that your silas won't die from tasi bullet until he ult on daimon
if he can ult daimon then you win
that lvl 200 luc merc can do that pretty easy
luc
daimon
nara
brutus
ferael
but i prefer save her for stage 25-1 (that stage is super rng iirc)
Alright; trying without Luc. Feels like I get closer with nice Silas ults Daimon
Can’t even beat it with the luc line up you sent
Yeah. How come I use Thoran to take Athila hit and not Brutus?
usually athalia 1 shot thoran then attack brutus, thane will attack brutus too then when thoran revive he stun them provide more time for daimon to kill
OHHHH I DID IT! Silas line up
Thanks a lot man!! 😁
np, you will find out that 25-1 is even worse
(is it 25-1 or 26-1 cuz i dont remember correctly, but that stage is extremely suck compare to all stage before that)
This?
yeah yeah that stage, its super rng
it took me like ~200 retries ?
26 is harder just because tasi and athalia always together
the ezizh + tasi 
27-8
ezizh is such a bummer
Any tips?
iirc that line up was
daimon
brutus
eironn
thoran
lyca
and you need rng god to bless you here
Why do people use Eironn? I thought you should use 1 carry only. Isn’t Daimon better?
Eironn becomes the sub dps in that situation
Iirc ainz comp is the only time where you'll have 1 dps unit
well we use eironn for his pull
daimon can attack 3 enemies at a time and ult faster
combine with thoran can give more stun -> daimon happier 
Oh, so I should build Eironn then.. I thought only to use Daimon, then rest CC and tanks
no you eironn only need E to work, no need to make him dps for now
Eironn would be the cc
I just feel like Eironn dies in 0.5 seconds every time 😮
he can die after he pull enemy in, no problem, he did his job fine
Need good gear on him but usually it doesn't matter since diamon will have enough time to ramp up
In the situation Eironn's job is to pull any annoying backliner into the danger zone
Fereal, Safiya, Ezizh, arden, etc for example
daimon like grouped+stunned enemy 
eironn+thoran do that perfectly good
Nvm
Eironn isn’t pulling anything, is he?
try using brutus in front of estrilda ?
He got disrupted by that aoe attack
Run call on him or put Lyca on the team
Just put Lyca on team is enough
I gave him some gear, now he pulls Saveas. He was too squishy I think
well you only need him to pull, daimon take care the rest
If he's squishy put shroud if u have it
In ch24 he can carry for me he's just support now tho. Or DPS in stun lock comp
Beat it. You guys are crazy good at this game lol
Not squishy, he needs haste
If an enemy hits eironn first he gets disrupted
you will know how to deal with those enemy when they kill you like thousands times 
I see 😁 what’s a good default line up for me at this point? What should I start each stage with and work out from you think?
The diamon comp I ran was: Eironn, Rowan, Diamon, Lyca, Tasi/fereal
well common team i use is daimon,brutus,thoran,eiron,ferael
swap their position depend on enemy
replace ferael with lyca if eironn can't pull
change lineup for special enemy
some stage might need nara or oden or rowan (need sig item and prefer +30 sig item)
Some stages require Brutus over eironn
only daimon need high ascended tier, other work at E/E+ (you need to up ferael and thoran at some point but brutus,eironn,lyca work find at E )
Daimon in front or back? He has tank trait but I dunno
Back
what lineup can do this
daimon usally backline but against some enemy you should put him frontline (like that 24-60 you just passed)
Cecilia/Athalia
ohh ok
i remembered using
lyca
thoran
eirron
brutus
daimon
I ran Cecelia with Rosa following her
what i use was
ainz
any tank (you can put bedo here)
rowan
mine was brutus (maybe arthur work if he hit enemy before bedo)
oden
oden teleport 1 tank away and ainz proceed to kill 1 backline enemy then ult and kill all the rest
retry a few times and i got the achievement
Otherwise ainz comp and just keep nuking until it works
ohh ok ty
Alright thanks a lot guys !
Cecilia does fine tho it did take over a minute
thank youu
Can’t find my second Daimon... Should I replace him with someone else? I’m using Daimon Thoran and the 3 wilders up there
just put daimon in your team and no need to replace, he can do really good dmg with the blood shield
you should replace other hero instead
and don't use that pippa early game, you don't need her troll that early 
You mentioned before Daimon likes stacked enemies cause he can attack 3 targets like his blood shield ability hits 3 enemies, but it doesn’t require them to be close. No?
@rigid imp who should I replace Pippa with
what’s the best team for pve i can make?
Anyone?
Can someone help me improve my lineup using what I’ve got? It’s not very good and everything keeps dying despite using talene and rosa. I think it’s because my heroes are too low but idk which to level
yes they has to be close together, he attack only 1 enemy himself but his doll has aoe attack which also give him more energy
use mirael instead, the fire witch
i used
ainz
brutus
lyca
daimon
nara
Only level 5 heroes at a time. Reset Thane and level Arden instead. Put Mehira in the middle. You usually want Rosa to follow a ranged damage hero or Mehira. You’re still very early so Wukong is fine but will want to use Saveas Mireal Diamon or Erionn in a few days.
Thank you 😉
I can reset wukong and do eironn
Should I?
Ok I will
Gah team still not good enough
Whoops I put eironn on wrong place it works now
anyone got a clue?
which heroes should i borrow from my friends?
@zenith mango wukong
@zinc maple uhh, try it with niru, hendrick, arden, mira, rosa. Make rosa follow mira
Ty a lot
anyone got a clue?
don't use alna with lyca
use brutus instead
Brutus with lyca?
brutus with alna for extra tank
What team would y’all recommend?
daimon, grezghul, oden, rowan, tasi
max level your daimon, he is a great carry hero
Daimon Thoran frontline
Rowan middle back
remaining 2 slots you can pick from Tasi/Morrow/Oden/Arden. Nara if there's a particularly troublesome enemy to deal with, like Saveas
So, should I then level everyone equally, since most of those are in resonator crystal, and can't really do that until I get one more resonator slot
Daimon caps out at 100 though, and I don't really have a way to get past 100 😦
that's fine, he will work
for now, reset Mirael and get Daimon Lv.100
after all 5 heroes are at Lv.100, there are next steps to follow in my guide i linked you earlier
What would work here? Ive tried all the afkhelper comps multiple times(the ones I can copy) but none seemed close to beating it at all…
That def worked better, thanks!
Is this 29-60?
Yes
Try
Eirron
Daimon
Lorsan
Rowan
Tasi
Oof, I don’t have tasi I’ll just try RNG running a successful afkhelper stage
Anyone know why teams like this can't even kill one person?
that's AE, i think your relics are too low?
3 4/6th against a t5
i just use all cele and if i find it overkill i reduce number of heroes by 1
Aight thenm gotta play the waiting game for enough cele
Help please
I don’t think you can brute force it with those levels
My team is weak compared to others around my level, anybody have a good lineup for the people I have?
U think my RC is too low?
You wasted so many fodder on all those legendary heroes… idk probably rowan hogan lyca eironn respen
Help please.
U tried Merlin or Lyca instead of oden ?
Already used Lyca on other team
U have Merlin?
i said its too low to brute force it
Swap him with oden and change positions with Merlin and Albedo
ik u beat this stage, but in general try and place ainz and a steady backline hero behind arthur
Okay thanks
New to the game, but what is the best team I could make currently?
What should my team look like?
What do I do with all these emblems? I’m level 75 and on stage 10-12.
You save them for when your heroes get stronger and you start upgrading their mythical weapon
for signature abilities when your heroes reach mythic
what’s the best pve team i can make
This is my hero pool I just want to know what would be my best lineup for like campaign. I also have belinda
Golus Hogan Arden Daimon Fareal
is it doable
Is this doable
Probably
What would be my best lineup for campaign? I can swap out people or reset them if need be.
This is for LCT; should i replace 203 daimon from this comp?
What’s wrong with my team?
Stop making legendary tier heroes btw
Also show ur whole box please
How would you recommend to kill two backline first? Been struggling with that
I need some help making tower teams. What can I make for each tower with these people?
So Alna GB is used for 36-48-1 and Daimon needs 303?
To survive from Flora's pee, yes.
Golden shower?
Can anyone help me . I posted pics above. Who do I need to look for to make progressing easier. I'm stuck
Anyone can give me an overview for Ferael? I think about getting him in my Team as Support for a 2/3 combo buff But I dont understand what He does. (pls @ me within your description)
saveas just melts me whatever I put out
Try putting alna on crystal and putting her in front of saveas as a tank
the only reason I haven't used her is cause thought was only good once she had a SI and furn
That’s mostly true, however she has immunity at the start of battles no matter her ascension. Her furn and si let her share it with the other frontliner. She can be good until you get Brutus
ah ok
I thought about putting Brutus on wishlist to get 1 copy but you one at chap 14 I think?
Ch 12 or 14, i don’t remember which. He’s very good once you get him
@hard forge alna always gets melted after her immunity, mira takes ages to get her ult
Yeah alna has battle field wide haste reduction unfortunately. Maybe try thoran in front of saveas and tasi or arden to cc him before he can kill everyone
ok I'll try some different stuff
What’s wrong with my team
Make daimon M and make him +20. Also get Rowan 30
That’s what I’m trying to do
Drop Gwyn for cc like arden, tasi ferael, put daimon backline also
Ok
Thx
Any advice? Trying to clear but get wiped too fast 
my frontliners die too fast and ainz and tasi cant get thier ults off. would a healer work?
Can someone improve this? Idk why but it doesn’t work. The hero power is traaaash but idk who to improve
im on Chapter 8 and have 15 faction scrolls should I just pull all 15 when it is switched to GB heroes in 30 minutes
Yes
you should just grind 5 heroes and the rest use it in Resonating crystal
But who should I put on rc? Wukong? Skriath?
wukong
he is pretty good in early game
Wukong ok so I swap wukong with Arden?
i would, i never used Arden in my whole career
Still not working
Waiiit when I get 5 rc slots should I reset everything and then level fodder
Nara, Lyca, Pippa, Tasi, Raku: Nara pulls skraith, pippa mid back, raku slot 5
You may jot have the investment needed on nara though for ot to work
I'm stuck on 9-20, is it time to swap over to mirael carry or is there something else I'm not seeing
kren does deserve the 309 treatment, though he's not first in line
k
I swear I've tried everything but nothing works
usually sending the first screenshot of your teams is good enough, too much and it gets cluttered
are you willing to use mercs?
not really
sure that's fine
try this for me:
fereal
lyca
rowan
brutus
daimon
not working, I don't feral is even getting fears off he dies so quick
take fereal off for safyia
it's closer, daimon gets 1 extra kill then dies. are these good artifacts?
daimon should have call, rowan chalice
^
I did it with mortar instead of saif
cool, good job!
thanks for the help
np, feel free to dm me if you ever want to
need help here thanks
Idk, that sounds....unOrdinary
I see what you did there😆
might as well pop in safyia if you're using eironn
aight gonna try it
arden does too much dmg
can you put eironn frontline at position 1 with call and have him pull arden and fereal?
okie i'll try
Also put diamon behind eironn so you can kill arden and Ferael fast
eirron one shotted before he even succ
rip....
Put call on him or put lyca in there
im surprised you can go that far with that heroes
I don’t have the investment into pippa or nara to do that
Anything that targets backline specificly should work; just be careful of hendrik
Nara just happens to be the easiest to use for this one
i mean i have daimon, but lacking of rowan makes me hold stages
The issue i have with it is those units either don’t do enough damage or die to quickly
if I could see my own comp I could show you what I did
I used Cecilia with Rosa following her for the challenge
Wait, actually, I can. One sec
This is my clear for comparison
@sleek delta
You should be building daimon on this one tbh
I also just realized I could L2 my Daimon 🤔
Feed shemira to daimon, then make his SI +20 asap
Ok, Ty Ty
Also check the pinned guides on #classic-questions
I don’t have the investment into all those units and trying to pull or target the backline hasn’t worked either.
Lemme see your box
Ira healing debuff and Arden roots and ogi stun rlly annoying :/
Random idea; fera, oden, skreg, gwyn, thoran
Skreg thoran front, Gwyn mid-back
It wins, but it doesn’t kill two back line
its hendrick, right?
He dies fairly quickly
Try prince instead of skreg; maybe you can stun hendy so je doesn't do the block
But with everything I try, the last two killed are always wukong and drez
Ah, yeah, those to have death avoidance
You really need a nara for this one
You can try 5-pull on it
Uh anyone got any tips?
try thoran on team 1
Yea I tried that already, athalia keeps killing him before the active
Hm, kinda stuck
Athalia usually stays alive now 
you don't 5 pull a rosaline.....
her sweep ability is aoe, like, what?
Nothing else is working ._.
a graveborn cc+support team might be better
it works then, maybe some retry
what do you use for the first team?
I tried daimon, prince and grez stuff but everyone just seems to die
Alright
That is the first team ._.
whoops meant second
It had the Rowan but I moved him to the first team
brutus
thoran
nara
rowan
thoran gets call, no one else, no one in position 5
Alright
i think u can add lyca for energy buff
How about the first team?
that is the first team...
Oh, alright
no one used lyca for first team, don't know how it will affect rng
uhh yeah, just checked afkhelper lol
lmao that's what I did
Yea it almost works, the athalia is always the one to stay alive
@austere current https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=31&stage=60#
is thoran ulting?
Ooo nice alright, that’ll be useful
Yep he is
did I see you on reddit a bit ago?
Athalia seems to always dodge it
hmm
Bruh this time athalia died but the other 2 stayed alive
try this:
rowan
thoran
eironn
skriath
lorsan
no, just gotta link 2 enemies
yessss! Now just do the second team
Alright, ty
np
I would love some help
Stuck on 9-20 do I need to start swapping over to mirael carry or is there something else I should do?
Help please. Tried many formations but still stuck
anyone...?
bring daimon to 180
its about that time
Don't use ainz at that low investment
It's okay, I got through
i was just testing after i failed like 20 times using,
nara
izold
silas
skreg
desira
I'd recommend afk helper bc your box is pretty unique at that stage
Any artifacts I should be changing to make this work? I've tried different formations from afkhelper and it's always Safiya and Tasi staying alive at the end
If lorsan doesn’t get link of then put warden and some gear on him for more haste
What would be a good team for like campaign and for guild hunts
Or try thoran, talene, pippa, lyca (ezizh might also work if you are using lyca elsewhere), lorsan
Pls help
Guys pls
I eventually managed to get it working using Thoran Flora Pippa Lorsan Ezizh, just needed a lot of replays/macro I guess
this kill 2 back line requirement is rlly pissing me off
can anyone help?
Is there any way I can beat this damn stage? I've been stuck here for 2 days 
@pale kettle
Hogan rowan
Grandpa tasi/ferael shemira
@final basin
Brutus thoran
Tasi rowan shemira
That worked thanks
. @fathom perch
thoran brutus
Daimon tasi/rowan rosa
Thanks man, already got through
should i change daimon with grezhul cus i can make him legendary plus and i dont have any more copies of daimon
You would be left without a carry and it wouldn't increase your max level
what about changing hogan with grezhul? but i dont think i can keep him alive cos i tried using him once but hes not that tanky
Might work you still want to draw someone as a carry to go beyond 120 level cap. Saveas was my carry at early game but I've been playing since launch
alright but i dont have enough foddeer to make him L+ although i have the copies.. thanks sir btw
Someone could helped me it have been at least 5 days i try this team and still doesn't work
Should i merc a Lucretia ?
Can someone improve this early game lineup? Im lvl 32 and Im not sure how to improve it even more
Any advice for this stage please?
change rosa follow to daimon, remove alna add lyca
Thanks, I think I'll try this formation when I level Daimon more. I think my BP is on the low side.
@humble zodiac can u please help me?
Damn a ascended in ch16. My first ascended was in ch25 or 26
yeah?
it's you're that's crazy, how can u got to chapter 25 without ascended heroes..
Sinergy I guess, Daimon and Silas is pretty strong and Lucius is also very strong in Early and middle game
And Rosaline should follow Daimon instead of Rowan
Tasi or Lyca
Brutus
Rosaline
Daimon
Eironn
I'll try, thanks!
Got through!!! Thanks!!!
Nice gg
can L daimon carry my team past 12-40? I can also make a L+ shemira if daimon wont be able to do it. I am on 11-4 right now tho.
He should. I don’t see why he wouldn’t.
Ok, I'll give it a try
@humble zodiac question is under the pic
Any tips?
no, dont swap it, save the scroll for future use
@humble zodiac what scroll? I only would have to reset Antandra and push ferael
ohh, you can put ferael on resonating crystal, no need to reset it
Ok
Someone Who could helped me im doing this for 5 days now
Need some advice for the next GB to ascend please
Oden imo
And Izoid as you can ascend him rn
Can I do something to passe thé 15.40?
Any idea for this stage?
can someone help me huhu
daimon
brutus
eirron
thoran
nara
Help pls
Got through thanks!
if u want a stable team do
fereal/lyca
thoran
eirron
brutus
daimon
Ok. Tasi and Rosa not as good?
rosa is not an ideal campaign unit, tasi is usable but daimon eirron combo better
I see. Where are Rosa and Tasi more suitable to be used?
I have Peggy, Angelo and Rowan Elite+, i also have rowan Mythic, should i ascend Peggy or Rowan? This might be a dumb question but idk if i use extra copies of Rowan after mythic 😛
U need 4 more copies to ascend rowan and rowan > peggy
rosaline is more used in guild bosses
tasi is niche use
Thanks man
I'm struggling with stage 3 in the misty valley, specifically killing 2 backline heroes -- idk what kind of lineup id need
Heres the heroes i have
I can’t seem to beat this stage I have tried different formations but can’t seem to beat it any suggestions?
help me w my lineup pls, thanks!
@pine moth
Brutus daimon
Lyca rowan ferael
@viral dock if nara isnt work try to put daimon on safe place might be
Daimon thoran
Oden fera lyca
Or
Daimon thoran
Oden rowan fera
Dat setup is depends on fera cc
And oden teleport must be throw one of enmies in front of thoran
@fiery wing
Brutus lyca
Nara fera daimon
here is my team
daimon
thoran
eironn
brutus
ferael or lyca i can't remember
if eironn can pull then use ferael otherwise lyca
Any suggestions for 36-60 I don’t have luc ^^
That worked thanks
I can’t beat this stage any help I’ve tried multiple formations
@fleet nymph put arrow girl on mid backline and dont make any legendary if its not a good carry ...
Try golus lyca
Daimon arrowgirl ferael/grandpa
I forgot the name arden
Golus lyca in the front?
Yes 1.golus 2.lyca
3.daimon etc try to make daimon as your carry
yeah ik I tried I lost lol
Make daimon legendary and try to focus on getting him copys
alright
I’m making Daimon legendary today cause I get elite shemira I only have 7 days playing
It shud be easy you need to spam retries ...
Alright I’ll keep trying your formation
Put nara on crystal wud help you much... you can pull dat weird girl
I mean isabela
She is on the crystal
Any ideas on what might work on this stage?
I beat but not I’m stuck on the next boss
Someone could help me idk what to put with Luc to make the team work
Drop daimon for skriath, and if that doesn't work, rowan for brutus
Like this is good ?
why don't you try it and find out?
Ye thanks it work
Hey, how do you beat that level with what I have ?
I feel underleveled.
you should level the daimon as the highest level imo
Oden
tank (any 1 that you have hogan, thoran, brutus etc)
nara/tasi/arden
daimon
rowan
nara pulls isabella
Will try thanks
Yeah i did this stage like 2 hours ago
this lineup worked for me(ignore the stage I am currently at)
and the team power was around 150k
Any ideas how to set it up?
swap brutus and lyca, take nara out for fereal
Thanks it worked first try! Damn, I thought I tried that combination already but Fawked kept removing my Daimon 
np!
9-39 help please
Ideas for that as well? Tried to swap Daimon with Ferael but he dies from the ground slam then
stop putting lyca in front of daimon, she comes onto battlefield late which means the shem's attacks are directed toward daimon
Also your rowan should be tanky enough to frontline now
Rowan dies within two hits despite having t2 boots and weapons. Main problem here is Tasi that keeps removing Daimon - who comes back after the team is dead
Guys how can one win against the 2nd team of 36-48
5* call thoran cheese ez
merc a 5* call kelthur
SI 30 Thoran, 0 fourniture
can you use a merc
Took some tries but worked 
A merc thoran?
no a merc kelthur that has 5* call as artifact
So kelthur 5* call, thoran just SI30?
sure
My lorsan is also SI20, Fourniture 3/9
lorsan can be at elite for all I care
I see people using Kelthur elite though
that's because they have 5 * call and you don't.....
ascension isn't what matters
Fair enough

I wanna know which account is the best between these two I have. I have another, but messed up in it, and I’m stuck at chap 9, sooo….yea…
These accounts are both at chap 6 iirc, and I’m kind of stuck for the most part. Idk which acc should be my main, or which team would be the best to use. The Shem acc is at 6-24, and the Daimon account is at 6-32
1st
I legitimately cannot beat this stage as funny as it may seem. Mezoth will not lose health and he wont die. He shields everything
I have 0 idea how this is so hard
I’ve been stuck here a while, just get shredded
In that one you have to purposely lose
I did. Went through that already
That screenshot was of my 25th fight against the 0hp mezoth
Have you considered just restarting the runthrough
Lol i just merced a lucretia for the entire thing, but search everywhere on the island, maybe you missed something because they're supposed to get weaker after talking to morael
welp. im restarting for the 4th time today. lets hope i didnt miss anything
bit too late lmfao
Bruh....
ayoooo
uid check?
;-;
I just began playing yesterday and this is my team/characters so far. I'm working on getting shemira rn ;~; any uh tips? On like formation? Faction thingy? Levelling certain people higher?
The yellow legendary level card is worth levelling up
sheesh
- shemira is terrible
- a plethora of tips can be found in the guides pinned in #classic-questions
Better ask about that in #classic-questions, focus on the pinned beginner guide. also shem is bad
every vid i watched screamed about how good shemira was in early/mid game reee but thank you
well we have better options nowadays
I like fire witch
Shem is not bad, just that there are stronger options that don't fall off. @pale kettle
Restarted and got to 6-24, who in my lineup will I end up focusing on making stronger?
Hey. Ive reached chapter 31 qnd have started to get stuck as i dont have a secondary team to do the multi battles. Could someone help me build a team with what I have while I wait for 2 more Luc copies? (My main team rn is Ainz, Albedo, Merlin, Ezio and Rowan)
Can someone help me beast this level?
Anyone got any clue for this? Tried everything I can think of >_<https://i.imgur.com/96c4BeC.png
First of all, holy shit that roster, make sure to read the guide and stop making heroes to L and beyond randomly. Secondly, show me ur hero box so I can see what I got to work with
I have more legendary people than my enemy, but somehow he is still way stronger than me. Is it because of his gear maybe or is it my lineup? Any help?
That’s not how it work, it’s not recommended to simply wasting fodder ascending heroes to legend. And knows your hero and their role, don’t put fragile hero in front line, they will die in seconds.
Higher rarity doesn’t necessary means stronger
Any advice please?
do you have nara and mortas?
No I don't
like this
Nara
Lyca
Mortas
Brutus
Daimon
hmm
try tasi to see if her banish helps anything
also raise your level cap, pushing that hard and not even 160
Take that Isabella down ASAP or disturb her with crowd control, and should be easy
I've spent all the exp. Have to wait for more exp resources.
Won! Thanks!
Ok
Oop never mind. Had to switch artifacts around
Try:
Nara
Brutus
Daimon
Grez/Estrilda/Rowan
Lyca[If nara cant knock down]/Tasi/Farael
grab a mercinairy ainz (si 30 9f) or a mercinairy athalia
I finally got through it on my 5th reset. Thanks for the help though

grats!
Any advice for this stage? Tried many different formations
Take down Numisu and daimon can solo the rest, I did it with thoran + rosaline + daimon + rowan + garrison’d ainz
Or you can wait until merchant reset, and use friend’s unit to clear it
Who should Rosaline follow? Daimon?
Daimon ye, basically burst down those annoying totems
Numisu is the only annoying there
I wish you had another pull hero besides Erionn. Maybe Thoran would work better here instead of Brutus
Like who? Basically I'm trying to pull with Eironn, daimon to hit, Rosaline to support daimon, lyca for haste, and brutus for tank
Nara even a single copy. Here's the lowest clear on AFK helper. All just reposition heroes and Lyca
Yea I don't have Nara...
Any way I can do this without Pippa lol
If you had +30 Saurus I believe so. Since you don't have then just use elite Pippa
can anyone help with a pvp formation?
Use dims with Rowan. You don't have much investment into them but still better than anything you can make
Arthur, Prince, Ainz, Rowan, Albedo
@pale kettle
Brutus thoran
Daimon rowan eiron/
Or
thoran daimon
Nara rowan eiron
what are dims? @signal canopy
Dimensional the ones the guy above me mentioned but would trade Prince for Ezio
okay ill run that, no lucretia?
Without Alna no?
is it possible to beat 36-44 without thoran,lucretia,oden and khazard
4 damage heroes and one support? The only really good carry there is Erionn but he's hopelessly under leveled
I don't see you winning without at least 300 Thoran unless you over level a lot. Flora is just so terrible that almost every stage with her requires him. Oden is easy to get and probably would still work at 203 but might be replaceable depending on what gbs you have. Check afkhelper and see if you can cobble together a winning team from all the different clears. I don't think I had my Lucretia fully built yet there and I still don't have Khaz more than halfway to 38.
thank you
I asked because when I look afkhelper almost all comps has the characters that I wrote
None, you need 4 copies of it to make a mystic. It would be best to have 4 daimon in early game, 2 more to go
i have 4 grezhul should i use him
Is there a option to I beat this team now or should I change the other teams to beat this
u nara the numisu, eirron back mid, daimon back top, lyca bot front
Got through this stage already, thanks!
Stuck on a small bump o.o am I building a team wrong or am I just underleveled?
Only level 5 heroes. For under 100 dump everything into Wukong. Wonderful up to date beginning guide graphic pinned in #classic-questions
fyi rowan isnt gonna be healing wukong and daimon from where he's at, try putting him on middle backline, rest is just what giga said
oh ok o-o thank you
Stuck here. Need help please.
Too many L heroes
warek and centaur dude stuns rlly annoying
I need help with this. I have no idea where to put anyone to get past this.
Been stuck on it for an hour or so, any suggestions?
@royal ingot
Thank you!

These are my best guys, who should I use for my team?
I have been using eironn, numisu, tasi, lyca, and safiya
I don't see any winning lineups against the 3rd stage in the misty valley. How can I defeat 2 backline enemies first?
@honest storm
It shud be enough to beat dat stage you just need spam retries but you could try to pull fera with nara or
Rowan thoran
Daimon fera lyca
@distant plume credits to @vocal sluice best cs
@fathom perch
Daimon brutus
Rosa rowan tasi
Any advice?
stuck for like 150 games ...
Do u have lucius? If yes put him in with dura’s call infront of Ulmus so he stuns him at the start
sadly no. dont have a lucius 😄
dont have zikis its just trial
No luck. I supposed my hero levels are not enough
It’s not a 5pull btw but it’s still an annoying lineup
Why am I losing this for the past 40minutes? https://i.imgur.com/NtQzMBu.png All of these have mythic gear or higher (monkey is in full t2 5 star, for example). No matter the setup, they just die, no dps no nothing. Is it supposed to be so painful?
Could anyone help me
daimon
thoran
rowan
lyca
fereal
that and spam the retries
I hate Fareal
that's cause the team you're using came from 2019
What a great suggestions
well it's true. Gywn comps are so outdated, not to mention even if you were using her, all the other units are meant to buff her, usually in the form of rosa+arthur+other supports

help
Athalia/daimon/oden?
What my best lineup?
Can i ask here wich alt account i should pick?
go to #classic-questions
any help is appreciated
Please help! 😭
Don’t level up more than 5 heroes, also why would you make an L lorsan when you already have L+ lorsan
Stop making legendary heroes
And do you use the wishlist? You have 13 different wilder characters in that one picture
@zealous iron The levels are from resonating crystal. And I was bit dumb and thought in order to get higher Lorsan I need to have more L of him. And yeah, I have wishlist but for some reason I get anything but what I have there. 🙈 Any suggestions who I should focus on?
you have 9 leveled heroes reset them
I have many, each as unlikely as the next
sorry had to say that
really dont know what to do, first team works and second gets destroyed
overlevelled, raku and prince are nice together, but you should really try to use meta teams
do you have mehira and windbinder 3*?
i have mehira but wind isnt 3 yet
hmmm let me think for a bit
your albedo isn't +30, it's why your ainz team is horrible right now
you only have 2 +30s......focus on red chests from now on, it makes a difference
do you have a mortas copy?
you know....if you're asking for help....might as well stay on the discord........I have to go, so I can only give you this team that uses somewhat your teams. For first team, give thoran call and no one else. Ainz the last team with ainz albedo arthur and a couple other heroes
sorry I am doing homework, no I dont hve mortas
use the team I sent
I started like 3 days ago is there anything I can improve from the team that I'm running? I don't know much about the heroes but hoping to learn more. Also I got a lot of the grave people, I don't know if they're good though.
my advice: how much time and effort are you willing to put into the game?
if the answer is not a lot(you're busy or you play games casually), then feel free to do whatever you want with the account(for comparison I spend 20-30 mins on afk arena per day, a lot more sometimes, but I'm pretty competitive).
If you want to get really good at the game, I suggest you read up on the guides on Reddit, as well as check out the youtube channels Volkin Gaming and Furry Hippo gaming, they do a lot of afk arena stuff., and keep up with the updates on the game.
As for specific advice, try looking up the most recent wishlist guide and sorting it out, but go for daimon, level him up more than everyone else(that's how a carry works, 20-40 lvls above the rest of your team). Do not focus on shemira, and don't make legendaries if you can't make them legendary+
Advice? I'm on Chap 11
ok I'll keep that in mind thank you! yeah I'm starting to really enjoy the game, definitely will put more time in researching these stuff.
daimon in the backline....try this
daimon
talene
rowan
lyca
fereal
with what? if you're talking about your team, make use of resonating crystal, focus on daimon, and power level him
We speaking daimon in carry or what?
I don’t have Fereal unfortunately, any others?
no problem! feel free to dm me if you ever need help, I've been playing for almost 2 years
anything, thoran if possible
daimon as in use him
Position?
if you don't give me the enemy formation.....how am I supposed to tell you
Thank youuuu
I'm not stuck my team is just losing motion
what is your team? what stage is it? you can't ask for help without giving me more details, sometimes a team works fine everywhere else and just doesn't for one stage
no problem, feel free to dm me if you need help!
Rowan,Hogan,Mirael,Arden,Rosaline stage 11-12
can-can you send a screenshot?
moving?
here's a team that's universally used, so it might work for you:
daimon
thoran/brutus
rowan
lyca
fereal
the trick is the positioning of these characters, moving daimon and the tank around to avoid daimon getting killed
Thorn Would probably work more cuz E+
ascensions don't matter too much rn
brutus is better in some cases where thoran gets bursted down too fast
you can interpret that in 2 ways
do you not know of resonating crystal
I do
then use it ffs
🤔 I just don't really use it-
do you need help? or are you just wasting people's time?
I dont even really know how it works
well
I'm a returning player and as you can see didn't make it far in the first place.
it's your most levelled 5 heroes, and people you put on gain the lvl of the weakest out of your top 5
so if you have a lvl 140, 140, 140, 140, and 120, the people on crystal will get a lvl of 120
Yea-?
this is great because heroes have a lvl cap based on their ascensions
but with the crystal, you can bypass this. So you have 5 higher ascensions heroes, and thus higher levelled, but they may not be great heroes. You can still use good heroes like daimon who are at e+ because you have him on the crystal
Can you send a screenshot.
🥴
Yeah?
so you can use lower ascension tier heroes at higher lvls than if you leveled them up. An e+ has a lvl cap of 120. But if your crystal was 160, then that e+ has a lvl of 160 if it's on the crystal
Yeah but i only had 1-160 anyways-
wdym?
Currently running daimon as my carry not sure if my other chars are best with him. Should I change any?
nothing you can do at this point, keep it up, build every graveborn character
So my line up is as good as it can get rn ?
Have you set your wishlist? There’s a lot of questionable heroes in there
look at your heroes, they are all lvl 120. You can't go higher than that. But the enemy's lvls are always increasing as you progress. So you'll have a much harder time. If you had them on crystal, and your L+ heroes leveled up instead, you can gain more lvls once you get exp and dust
@humble apex I set it for the most recent guide from whitesushi
whitesushi hasn't released a guide in a year or so lmao
Yeah but doesn't it base of the whole team?
Set it to the wishlist in the pinned guide in #classic-questions whitesushi’s guide is ancient