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read tree3s guide in #classic-questions, its very helpful
just rng, dont do any summons after that until you can set wishlist
Any ideas?
help
@jolly plume
Lyca brutus
Ferael daimon rowan
Or
Daimon brutus
Nara ferael lyca
@warped ocean
Arthur rowan
Ainz dumbledore nara
what is best current teams for soren and wrizz?
Stuck help
Help anyone very close to finishing chap 29
Last stage of 29 someone help please
Can't u make Rowan +30?
I am focusing on lucretia +30
Rowan +30 is more valuable as it helps ur entire team as i can see u got daimon in there too. I hope ur daimon has call and eye on luc
It does, and when I asked about who to get +30 for at #classic-questions almost everyone said lucretia
Okay - try to remove pop but Lyca frontline and Rowan middle back
Rowan will die almost instantly to athalia
Need some help please just cannot beat this first team š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬ any help greatly appreciated š
Still stuck here. Any advice? I struggle the most with Isabella when she manages to proc
Eironn
Daimon
Lorsan
Rowan
Tasi
Try that mate
I just get absolutely shredded so quick š©
Or daimon 1 ferael 3
Otherwise put Nara 3 and don't use Lyca if numisu heals too much. But if Eironn is problem then cc him (before he pulls)
I think I will be here for a while lol literally lyca tasi feral get 1 shot š
If you prevent Eironn pull? Can't believe that
It's only 47 level deficit bro u can win that easy
How do I prevent erionn lol š
Nice no problem. 47 level deficit is easy. I'm at 150 level diff against 5 teams then it gets a little hard xD
But normally u shouldn't let ferael get pulled. He gets insta clapped
So like. Maulers at 113 deficit is apparently just idiotic. Idk man. I use correct artifacts. Maybe its because my skriath isnt built to do dmg lol. But even other replays show him doing mediocre damage. My kren and tidus die way too quickly. Ive tried both with call kren and shroud kren. Then tried both with eye tidus and shroud tidus. Windbinder skriath. Call and tried tidebearer numisu. Ive tried my own skreg with resistance and barricade, this merc has resistance. Hmm. Just so bad... the deficits maulers function at are just laughable. Wilder and graveborn? At multis. Hypo at 315. KT 640. Excelling everywhere else. Build a kren to get a kick in maulers tower. Its a no go.
This is floor 419 btw
Hey guys, I just jumped to Chapter 28, on stage 1 my team generally consists of Brutus, Thoran, Numisu, Shemira/utility, and Daimon. Iām sitting on roughly 75k gems, 75 faction scrolls, 50 Norma scrolls, 18 elite stones, and shit loads of blue heroes to use on stones/cards. All go into summons? That was my plan because I still need so many copies of like⦠everything? Lol Stargaze? Are any celestials worth going into my team at this point honestly? I have Twins at E+ and thatās about it, a few other celestials at just base copy
You probably should listen to more opinions then just mine but i think stargazing is useless unless you donāt have like 3 decent ascended teamsā¦
I can definitely understand that. I just see some people in my chapter have like 3 mythic celestials and 1 ascended troop and they mop the floor. Are they really that much stronger? If so, why wouldnāt I build them?
Any ideas?
Letās look at the things this way, with all the gems you have now if you have a little luck youāll barely even get an ascended celestial or hyp or w/e. At chapter 30 (i think) youāll need 2 teams for boss stages and at 33 youāll need 3 teams. So is it really worth it to spend everything on one hero when youāll need 3 teams?
At least thatās how i look at things and i only stargazed with cards from events until now
Ohh, I definitely see what youāre saying. I didnāt realize āhow closeā relatively, I am to needing a second line up of units. Damn. Thank you for your opinion/knowledge!
Nvm thar comp did it
Youāre welcome āŗļø
swap eironn and fawkes, replace fawkes with daimon instead
if you have an M daimon he will be targeted by tasi instead of eironn, sadly you don't
Hmmm maybe try hodgwin lyca rowan daimon/oden eironn
hey folks, looking to improve my pvp lineup, please give me suggestions? I get beaten by someone 15 levels lower than me
I was using the budget eironn burst lineup
Maybe rowan arthur daimon eironn ferael?
still beats me :/
Bump. So many questions mine gets buried as usual.
I have no idea how to answer that unfortunately..
I'm assuming Raku is just that good?
H e l p
Help anyone last stage for chap 29
need some thought about this stage 
my current roaster
it would be better if i have gorvo imo 
replace the eironn with rowan. see if that does anything
use the choice pack and get more daimon, M daimon can carry way stronger than A shemira 
where to claim
also what lineup to use
you can find the hero choice pack in tavern, but you need to unlock it in the Field of Star first (you can find it in the library)
Hello can someone help me my game crashes after about 10sec when i go in
is Saurus any good at epic+ when lvl 160
i might be able to get him
oh no never, you use him at +30 but only the merc'ed one, you can make him +30 yourself but its much much much later
Anyone here has an inactive account?
I just wanna ask if u guys can help me enter the invitation code for summer gift
Who should I be using in general?
Daimon rowan ferael eironn and shemira, focus on the first 4 because shemira works only for early
Need some help please, tried every combination I could think of, between the mind control, the stun and this freaking centaur's insane hp..ugh
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how do you already have ascended lucretia at level 263? š©
60$
What I would do here is use shemira as food for daimon to make him M
Alr
try to get into this cheese comp thing. but dont know how and which champs i should try using here. has used a macro for like 3h without killing it. saw on nax way lower people killing it. so im not sure what im doin wrong
https://snipboard.io/fH8TGl.jpg
Guys whats a team I can build with these heroes? im already stuck on 5-36
sure
daimon daimon daimon. You're at a very very early stage, just remember to read up on guides(reddit and youtube) and you'll do fine.
did....did you just....hang on a sec I'll sort it out for ya
try this:
pippa
thoran
talene
ezizh
lorsan
thoran gets call, no one else does, also give thoran only his weapon and boots, give pippa hat
yeah ill do that just didnt think i would get stuck on a stage so early but i dont have daimon hopefully ill pull him soon enough
you have wishlist set up?
yeah like this
good, good
if you ever get stuck on a stage, feel free to dm me
does it matter if its not 5*?
that's my point, if you don't have it 5* EVEN MORE DON'T GIVE CALL TO ANYONE ELSE...whoops sorry for caps
alright tyvm btw do u know why I havent gotten any faction scrolls? i read you suppose to get them when u clear a chapter, no? im on chapter 5 atm
faction scrolls are rarer than normal scrolls, normally you get them from voyage of wonders, peaks of time, and before chapter 20 ish, every chapter completed gives you some scrolls
oh okay
sorry, I seem to have misunderstood you. No, this stage is fine at 4*. But for chap 36 you need 5*, so get it quickly
Bump
If you see a skriath doing damage it's likely because he's 30 btw
Yeah ik cause percent based hp drain
Yeah, still insignificant in this fight tbf, more about kren and tidus just dying so fast lol I dont get it haha
oh I see! that's pretty cheap actually.
it is actually 40$ but 20$ for the last advanced rewards and the first 10 stargaze was the last one I needed for ascended
I see, thanks :) I'll maybe do that myself
if i have a artifact in 3 heros in same team that im using does it make it weaker ? cuz my friend said it will be decreased by 15% if 2 member in your team uses it and if 3 then 30%
That only applies to dura's call, and the debuff is so small it shouldn't affect how you use it.
Any help? Havenāt played in months forgot the game
Help!
Oh nvm, finally managed to do it by levelling up Silvina. She is OP at my stage šš
I did what you said with like helping build my formations so I would get better in the tug of war. And guess how its holding up.
Its actually holding up even worse. At least before I would begin the day from 1190. Now I begin my first day with the new team at 1160
I use the same defense formation as my attack formation btw
Help
Got stuck, any advice?
Last 5 stages of this nightmare chapter.. Can someone help
If you have nara you could place her instead of lyca, then move her with ainz (depending on who is annoying you the most on that stage)
Sadly i dont have nara, picked the wrong unit box.
Lol is eironn even helping you there? Looks like a suicide mission
Try
Silas
Lyca
Eironn
Rowan
Tasi/lucretia
How to pass this stage? I swear to god i hate so much tasi and Isabella in campaing, any tips?? I think ive tried everything
Try rowan middle with daimon infront of tasi?
I usually use Elite+ Athalia for chain but she doesn't work now
Nah
Try switching her place with lyca, lyca is mostly there for initial haste, maybe gwyn ult could help you
Ok
Nice...thanks, passed it like u said i switched lyca Gwyneth
:D
Still stuck, levels are pretty much maxed for now waiting on dust. There any comp i could try out and maybe rng it?
Help
What team would work better here im getting destroyed by safiya and the warek
Getting destroyed by a mireal again (also that saveas I misclicked)
Try rowan & Rosaline frontline.
@covert shoal and how do i lineup the back ?
Who should I use?
Any others I should focus on more than my top 5?
Only lvl up 5 heros just saying
Thanks!š
Who should I use?
anyone happen have guide for george windfall trials of gods that is not ainz team?
Still stuckš¢ help
- That box doesn't match your heroes.
- I already said it would help a lot if you used that shemira as food for daimon.
I did and it was worse they died faster and mb that was my alt thought it was my main
Help
This is my main list mb for sending the alt
Is this an updated picture?
Yes
So why hasn't shemira been used to make daimon mythic 
Shem sucks
Because she does aoe dmg and carries me plus her and daimon are my main support so she has to stay for now
daimon way better
I got a Shem copy coming up to get to gold plus a spare daimon that will get buff later with scrolls from the grave pack summon
- Her AoE damage is nothing compared to daimons
- Daimon can carry fine by himself
- You can use E heroes as supports, which will work better than her anyways.
'ascend better heroes' is also valid avice lol
Any advice for Hypogean Tower against Flora + Thoran ? š
Try rowan brutus nara lyca lucretia
Lost in 3 sec
If that doesn't work, swap brutus for lorsan and make sure lorsan has enough haste to link brutus before dying
And try at least 10 times.
Tried, didn't work
You setting them up in the order I said?
Show me a picture of the team so I can be sure
Do you need help glitch?
Lorsan probably not the play here, swap back to brutus. If the luc doesn't wanna work, you can try the daimon variant instead like shid used
I need a lot of help
ok
Have you considered since lyca without sig 20 isn't that great, maybe you could dual carry brute force this. As we know altthalia isnt that accurate. We could easily get away sticking larucretia in front of her as a dodge tank. As she will hunt athalia anyways. I believe in dual carries, replace lyca with daimon and frontline brutus over lorsan
Bonus points if brutus has barricade
Brutus does have barricade, but what you told me didn't work sadly
1 sec forgot to give daimon gear lol
ok they just all die very fast will do x1 to detail
Ok
athalia killing daimon, rowan dying to ezizh and lucretia going for ezizh and dying
Athalia is supposed to be set across from lucretia, not daimon
Daimon should be where lucretias is currently slotted
Just tried it
She has dodge, athalia has really low accuracy, retry till she dodges athalias attack
will try
Agility tanking athalia is the hard counter
btw what artifact should I give lucretia?
Fuck...
She has eye at the moment
Idunno, shroud is the meta but you don't have shroud so let me go read up on artis quick
Probably eye
thats what she has on tho
Well, what tier is her gear
all tier 1 exept boots which are t2
Ahh, shit that's not good since she loses too much dodge to dodge tank athalia with tier 1 gear
Tier 2 is kinda hard to get especially when I focus all my efforts on getting her +30
No albedo?
I can get one very quick
but it will slow down my progress getting +30 for lucretia
Ehh, you might just need to wait a bit before you can pass this node
Yea probably, its just weird I was able to pass 2 chapters in 1 day and now can't do shit at this stage
Well this stage is hard because you need to somehow counter that safiya before she ults while there's an ezizh feeding her energy while also countering athalia at the same time which can be difficult to do without the correct gear and roster
Lucretia goes for safiya tho
Both athalia and safiyas ults can wipe you in one ult
So you really need to end this fight quick somehow
yea athalia is the real problem here
Athalia will fail to hit against an agility hero with t2 gear 80% of the time but if you can't kill her ezizh will feed her the ult which doesn't miss near as often
Prince helps delay their ults
Ideally working on gear should be a top priority moving forward. Gear is half the battle. And gear is bougjt with guild tokens rather than with the tokens you use for reds
So there shouldn't be overlap
Your inability to dodge is what makes this impossible for you atm
Easiest way to get T1 or T2 is via the current summer event
but thats where I get reds
Is your guild active? You should be able to achieve enough for a tier stone every week from guild fights
And soren
My guild is very active I just got a T2 yesterday
Okay that's where you get stones
Takes time to build an account, 1.5 years later I still have some heros with no gear on
very slow tho, there is a field of stars which allows you to get T2 from drops
Yea one of my problems is that I had a quit from AFK arena for like half a year
But yeah my biggest advice is gonna need to be getting t2 stones on lucretias just to be able to dodge tank enemies that you'll run into quite often
I also have a T3 choice chest for later
Ofc you should also build the best cc/debuffer in the entire game as soon as possible (ferael)
yea this will take a while
Well gl, sorry I couldn't help you pass this node.
It's alright its very hard I usually don't ask for help unless I am really stuck
Wait
Waiting
Have you tried going for a faction bonus? (4 wilders) / (4LB)
faction matching gear?
He means going for faction bonus to reduce dmg taken, but athalia has no faction so it wouldn't work to counter her
oh
so you would lose either lyca or rowan, but gain 15% attack and 20% hp
I'm talking about using 4 heroes from the same faction + lucretia
well athalia's counter faction is hypogean (lucretia) but doesn't really help
His problem is mostly due to not having any good gear
I will try
His heros can't dodge
Which makes them vulnerable to being 1 shot since agility heros have no defence or hp
If you do try for faction bonus, make it hypo. Their buffs are decent at least
I have only 3 hypos
so close.......
No dodge and no cc either
luc mortas and leofric
maybe 3 hypos + lyca + luc
but lucretia is a hypo
He's got no way to mitigate the damage he's taking
do you have brutus, glitch?
yes
he might help keep lucretia alive, but you still need to kill athalia and sofiya before they alt
thats the problem here
killing athalia and sofiya
I do have 4 celestials if it helps
5 to be exact
Talene zaph flora twins and wu kong
does numisu CC your lucretia with that lineup?
have you tried having nara pull numisu, and luc across from sofiya?
what if you give nara dura's call?
she was able to pull but nothing really happened
okay. Then the only thing I can think of without you using a merc, leveling, or getting gear is 4 hypos + lyca
sadly I have only 3 hypos
then 3 + lyca and then either rowan or lorsan or nara, not sure which 5th would be best
problem is they are level 1 and I have not a lot of diamonds to put for this
unless you're running into minimum power, them being level 1 is fine. You want them to die to trigger lucretia's signiture item
lucretia is getting very close to killing safiya
The fundamental problem with this theory is that she is able to wipe because she can dodge attacks :/ his doesn't have t2 gear on so it can't dodge
Otherwise he could just use her to face tank athalia and get a free ult out of it
Which would be a win condition
He needs to work on his account a little bit
Prince dodges athalia
he just runs away
Therefore I am able to kill safiya but unable to kill athalia
well you can either pray for RNG, or wait until you have luc +30 or full t2. Or a fereal merc. Any of those things could make you win
I am very close to +30
that attack boost should be enough when you get it
I am at +28 at the moment and have 20 red chests
T2 gear on an agility hero is about as important as blood is to a human heart, they can't quite go on without it
so you need 70 more. you might be able to get that many from the event tomorrow when it goes on sale
I will also buy from the challenger and labyrinth store
Buy zolrath in the challenger store
he's right, never get reds in the challenger store
When there's a free zolrath on the table
getting them in lab is okay, but if you could get +30 without that, those coins are better spent on Arthur
I'll try getting +30 without that, will see how it goes
@fierce viper @stark valley Who should I merc tommorow to pass this stage?
A 30/9 Fera could be a good choice, alternatively you could choose 9f nemora to possess althalia or possibly even alna
Or take all of them and just swap between them
So I have just reached Ch 30 and I have an Ainz linked with a 5 star Shemira. My only other 5 star is a Daimon.
Who should I use the Swap Scroll on with her?
Show us your roster in #classic-questions
Am I doing fine just building light bearers right now or should I focus elsewhere
I need help
try swapping hogan and rowan
@pale kettle this wins but itās not going to go far slow as hell
Hey, I finally got my Lucy ready! Can anyone suggest a Lucy team for me to use with these heroes? Iām just starting ch32
more of a type of question for #classic-questions
Oh my bad, Iāll go over there!
Just got the Elite Twins, who can I replace?
ok thx
no problem
you have teams both so meta and so non meta
My luc team is in progress as I raise my lorsan and alna. looking to get gorvo for portal party and raku for neo gwyn
The saveas isnt a problem u just make it L plus and use it for fodder later on lol
I would temporarily fuse ainz to Daimon. 200 diamonds isnāt the worst loss, and right now youāre not having to deal with literally any multi fights
200 level ainz could easily clear this
Current squad is thoran ainz hogan raku rowan
Iām pretty sure itās the best I can get, idk where to go from here tho
I can also choose to ascend raku eirron or saurus to gold border, Iām currently on chapter 13 so Iām not sure which one is better at my stage
Would you suggest any changes to my LCT teams?
My team keeps dying, idk what to do and I gotta use my dim comp for the first battle
Like daimon doesn't get enough time to ult even once.
Box
Here's the other part of the stage
Need help
can u show all ur heroes
thoran rowan/talene nara ezizh lorsan
Hello Iām stuck at 22-6 my team since now was daimon thoran estrilda rowan and cecillia need some Tips please
help
@pulsar mason send enemy team ss
@jolly plume try this
Tasi
Daimon
Rowan
Lyca
Farael..
Stuck in 9-39, heeeelp š
@wintry berry send enemy ss
I'm sorry, what does SS mean? š
screenshot
Aaa I feel stupid thanks š
Already know I will be stuck on this too. Just stared month ago and still learning. š
Can someone help me figure out a decent lineup?
help if its possible xd
@wintry berry read pins in #classic-questions . And try this
Shemira
Lorson
Wukong
Talene
Tasi/ peggy
@rough jungle try this
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Talene
Izold
@astral jay
Been pretty stuck at 15-40 for about a week, tried a lot of lineups. Even when Nemora charms Farael it seems like it has no effect. Tried with friendās mercenaries too but also failed
still cant clear
Try this
Lyca
Daimon
Rowan
Thoran
Talene
@mystic glade read pins in #classic-questions
And try this
Isabella
Belinda
Rowan
Talene
Tasi
Been stuck on this annoying boss stage can anyone help out
YOOO IT WORKED THANKS
@tidal pumice reset lucius to 140 make shemira 160 and try this
Shemira
Lucius
Mirael
Skreg
Daimon
Read pins in #classic-questions
Ok is ainz no good
I'll try what u said
It doesn't work too much splash damage and crowd control on the opposing team I have enough essence to upgrade lucius to 141 put all hero exp in to 160 should I try that
@tidal pumice used daimon
Skreg lucius
Oden daimon and gassman .. oden usually telporting one of tank so daimon could take a breath for a while
Focus on daimon i shud say
Ye if you want to make daimon as your carry
What is a good counter to Prince of Persia?
I alr had enough food to make spider l+ but I mis click
Any ideas?
Uhh just saying Shem falls of like ch 22
Not mine,I know that and told my friend already, he made a lot pf mistakes,so trying to help rn
Does the eironn get interrupted
Pulls enemies, but does instantly after that
Can you show the rest of the box lol
can someone help
is there anyone in the eneemy which reduces energy gain?
coz mu daimon just does not ult
raine knock him down and bel dmg is too high so she interrupt him if he can't ult before getting hit
he stays in full energy without ultimg
Itās probably raine knockdown
https://i.imgur.com/qQ0qOpG.png any ideas?
First of all, stop making heroes to L/M etc without copies to bring it to A, make sure to read the pinned beginners guide in #classic-questions. Now, onto ur lineup, I guess ur Rowan doesn't have +30 SI? And how is daimons SI looking?
@languid talon idk but an idea is you could replace Nara with Eironn. Or try putting eirron in Brutus place to get the pesky faerel
Daimon has +12 and Rowan +9
Got supplies to bring Daimon to 20?
Swap Rowan and Daimon position maybe? i dno, u dont have that many heroers to work with atm
It“s the same whole team getting 1 hitted and daimon gets stunned so he cannot ult and dies
can someone help with this
Tbh you probally just need to level your heroes. your highest is 40 behind but the rest are 80 levels behind
Wow dehek you played for 9 days and already can ascend daimon :)
Wait nvm u need 2 more copies
neither worked, but ty for trying =p
Help
Maybe thoran brutus daimon shemira rowan
Kaz and arden deal too much damage and they heal over and over
is this a line up worth investing in?
Iād choose a thoran instead of that satrana and rowan instead of nemisu
Daimon and ferael are great, be sure theyāre on your wishlist and brutus is decent for buying more time for daimon
Any tips on what my (campaign) line-up should look like and what to level to progress?
Thoran grezhul ferael lyca oden
ty
Lvl up mirael
Mirael tasi Arden lyca thoran
Still stuck on this stage
Any ideas for the line up?
Offtopic but please get some help from #classic-questions and read the pins there

you do realize hendrik has no use in t1 because he only saves someone from backline and your izold is in frontline
@dull flame do you mind helping me with a stage above and I really like ur pfp :3 John and seraphina
Brutus grezhul daimon gwyneth rowan maybe
Def not working-
skriath or ferael?
Ferael
and is drez worth anything
Who should I rent to beat this level?
Assuming you have some decent friends, a 309 lucretia probably does the trick

i know dont have much charcters and stuff but could anyone tell me a comp like for now
Morrow is a good disabler, and wukong is a chad in early game since itās basically gg if he gets to use his clone, so you should definitely use those 2
Furniture boost to izold, and he saves Silas. I know how he works
Recommendations?
Reset hogans level and level up satrana and use the other 4 in top and try to level up all equally
Sheās useful even for me in chapter 30 and i have her only elite+
ok so reset hogans level and level up satrana and others equally ?
ok
Any idea for this stage ? Flora is š¤¬
Just level up satrana with hogans level and then try to keeping everyones level same so you wonāt have a level 70 with lvl 30 players
oki
and also i still dont know how to reset tell me please lol
Try mehira in top left where flora is
I will dm you a video on how to reset the levels but it will be a little different because of my levels
oki thanks again kaneki
Np happy to help
I'm always dying with Thoran + Flora at the end š¦
Try ezizh zol mortas mehira lucretia, if mortas ults lucretia she should have enough sustain to whittle them down
So hard...
Need help figuring out what my 4th team should be. Little infographic to show what I got going on:
I don't know much about Thoran cheese but I feel like my plan should be to get Alna to ascended, replace thoran with Alna, then make the 4th team thoran cheese?
Edit: Please @ me if you have a comment cause i'm tabbed out
Maybe nara across from nemora
Arden is a better fit than any of the heroes you currently have in the back row.
So thatās an easy upgrade
Iād take out Kelthur for him
Any ideas? What do I need to merc to beat this or what formation do i need to use cuz nothing works. Already looked at afkhelper
yup arden was it. thanks!
Sure thing!
Should I make any changes to my teams(ch 36)
what would beat this stage?(no ainz)
Good lineup?
Used lineup:
Daimon (M Tier)
Ainz (currently now Mythic, Linked with Kren)
Rosaline (M Tier)
Eironn (L+)
Shemira (L+)
help
What should I aim for as my 4th team?
imo try this possibly prince instead of rowan for team 2 id revamp so its full on thoran cheese rosa follows mehira or raku once built +30 3/3 in place of rosa mehira elite is fine even works in chp 36,37
use eironn in the middle, keep thoran at the same place, replace lyca with merlin (cause i dont remember what i put there
)
the athalia + tasi really pains me oh my
Hey I need some help please
tasi keeps bansihing oh my
Help
brutus vs brutus
Doesn't work like that š
sometimes 
your comp looks mega doomed bc of vurk, can u 5pull?
Any idea why?
You said you needed 5 right? For LC or something?
Yep
Low chances of me passing the qualifying cause I'm against a whale but I still want to give it a shot
For the ainz team I'd use ainzbedo numi ezio
A graveborn team with grez daimon oden silas ferael
Budget burst with eironn prince gwyn lyca lorsan
Luc cycle with lucretia twins tasi rowan ezizh
And finally stall with thoran talene skreg kelthur flora
That last one I'm least sure about, but if it comes down to that you've lost anyways lol
Does a stall work in LC?
True š
No raku or izold comp anywhere?
Izold is shit in pvp, a raku team might be on par with that scuffed stall
Fair
Big things you still want are merlin and desira
Would pippa instead of skreg help? I feel her throw would keep him alive lo ger than skreg furn
It's a possibility, but skreg himself is also really tanky while boosting everyone else's survivability with his furn
Desira I've had dismal tier luck with getting, will need to force hcp from scratch and I'm SGing alna rn
Merlin yea I need to build
Fair, cool. Thanks a lot man
Yeah alna and athalia are big as well, and ofc zol/zap other primo celehypos.
No problemo
No. I completed it with rng
congrats, ofetn times with luc vs brutus u will need to rng it a lot. If you can 5pull though, saf pyramid helps out a lot
I went several stages and now stuck here
If I had ainz it would have been easier. Still two more days to garrison him again
I need some help
Halp
try hodgkin 1, lucius 2, daimon 3, rowan 4, and gwyneth 5
Use daimon eironn rowan gwyneth and lucius
Ideas?
Hello @stone tree,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
up still need help
Try grezhul daimon lyca gwineth brutus
Try gwineth instead of rowan
gwyn useless just dies and didnt do any dmg
Any help on this? Been stück for 2 days now š
Daimon casts hit ultimate once and dies
Lyca brutus merlin gwyneth/thoran daimon
Use brutus where athalia teleports use daimon frontline and then use ainz in the back
Use lyca behind brutus and remove rowan and put gwyneth
Heeeeelp pls
Try brutus daimon nara eironn lyca or brutus rowan nara lyca daimon
anyone got a clue?
try queen-lucius-tasi/safiya-ainz-rowan
I got it already thanks, used daimon shem saf tasi and feral
nice nice
Hi, anyone can help me ?
You can try grezhul wukong daimon oden raku
Any Ideas how i can beat the lvl ? š Without Friend Heros
Having trouble with 29-
Ok i'll try that ty š
i am stuck on this stage at the end of chapter 15 could anyone help?
Hmmm maybe brutus shemira ferael lyca eironn
Tbh I donāt think it is good
Thereās not enough tanks or supports so no I donāt think it would work either
which artifacts ? people with lower rc used successful that comp
Can you able to keep the charm cycle ? ( Without khaz zol even lyca ) and also curious to know which comp you using raku ? If possible ping me and reply
which hero should I level as my main? Iām not even past Chapter 6 yet
Wukong till level 100, then use daimon if you get him, if not then carry with mirael. Read pins in #classic-questions for the beginner guide
Can i make a good team with these ?
STOP making heroes L if you dont can L+ them
Ok thx for the tip
Got it with zafrael and Shem as mythic š®āšØ and thx
@maiden marsh and thx for advice too š®āšØšš¾
@candid flint try this
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Grezhul
Nara
thx
Help pls 
Any Ideas how i could win?
@astral jay well i got rekt
Help please I'm getting 1 hit
Then try this
Lyca
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Nara
ok
@unborn tree try this
Farael
Brutus
Rowan
Lyca
Daimon
Show your whole hero box
uh well that didnt work out
Everyone dies apart from daimon , he is +21 si but can't beat it alone
@pale kettle reset rowan to 120 make the legendary mouler 157 and use this
Ira
Legendary mouler
Rowan
Daimon
Nara
hmm my team died much faster then before
How should I beat this? Iām struggling
Merc a 309 gwen or sum.
Help someone pls im stuck 
Fact: Shemira as a carry is why you're getting stuck
L
Hey guys which team should I build for this ?
why is this comp not working for me
other ppl with lower levels are able to beat it
in the end my raku always die to brutus and kren
raku is 3 30
lyca 9 25
Eironn 930
Saurus 0 30
They retry undred of times

i even tried multiple times with manual mode but idk, i guess i need more tries or i am using a wrong strategy
@pale kettle you can't even kill a single hero?
Drop ira for lyca
i did same result
@pale kettle does daimon dies last? Or early?
last
Does he manage to ult?
Still can't kill a single hero? 
Try silas instead of ira and swap position between mouler tank and daimon
no š¦ and tried silas its the same he gets 2 hittet and cannot ult
Can someone help me pls ?
Thoran rowan ferael eironn daimon should work
Hey guys this is my current setup and Iāve used the dimensional key on Rowan (Merlin). Should I take it off of those two and use it on Belinda and Ainz?
@pale kettle saveas 2 shot daimon
are you supposed to run a 2 tank set up with daimon
Ideas for this one?
Thatās the exact formation that worked for me i just tried until it worked
Been stuck for way too long lol
@pale kettle ye but you probably have stronger heroes but ill try
Try nara over eironn if it still doesnāt work
Lyca daimon rowan merlin/rosa/oden nara/eironn
still stuck
So I was told to stop investing in Izold, Iām still trying to get a handle on the game. Should I try and get different graveborns/rowan to replace izold?
Rowan is a must, yes, you should focus on that daimon for now
Ok thanks, I have an elite faction card and 10 faction scrolls. Should I use that to try and get rowan?
no, spend them on graveborns
^
Still? Do you always use it for just graveborns?
I used them all on GB until like ch35
Pretty much
Oh
Cuz lets just say you donāt get rowan then youāre stuck with some trash lightbearer
til your box is something like this atleast
5 meta gbs ascended, + 2 with 8 copies
i should probably still be pulling gbs if i was playing hyper optimally
for a long while ye
Yes
fereal>oden? I thought oden was a must^
both are a must
Can somone help me
and ok Iāll remember to the faction stuff. Thanks
Line up my team correctly
team comp looks fine honestly, if thoran dies quick you can use brutus, you're pushing a 50% power defecit at ch14 which is probably about as good as you'll get til you get some more crystal levels (or spam retries til something magically works) or daimon sig 20, will probably also win for you
Help pls :( my lineup is just trash
dont have brutus , have no HE and my daimon only has +12 Stitchy
keep retrying or just wait a little bit, it is an afk game, can also try adding swapping around who is being hooked
i tried really often and tried all lineups 20-25 times
I guess i have to wait one night till i can play
How do I do this one?
Getting crushed by 29-60 any suggestions?
Pls i need help with a linup. My current one is trash i can send if needed
Daimon thoran eironn saurus/tasi/merlin rowan/brutus
Any help, please?
Have 6 cards, was thinking of just finishing izold
Need team comp help too, don't know who to use for thoran comp, I use daimon and 5 pull rn in chapter 31
Post this in #classic-questions , more people will be able to help there
Okay
Iām struggling with this, how should I beat this? I donāt have a gwen 309 merc, who besides her would you recommend?
I've been playing for 3 days and don't know a ton about the heroes yet. Who should I be focusing on?
belinda merc might work there.Cecelia rowan frontline, raine belina rosa/morrow
daimon
Should I reset Shemira and level Daimon then take Shemira back to 80?
yes for sure
What can I do Iām stuck
I would love some help
Stop making l tier
Anyway lucious saurus (front) Rowan gwyneth saf (if saf doesnāt get interrupted) and read the pins in #classic-questions
Looking for a solid arena challenger team setup. Currently working on ezizh and twins to Ascended which will be super helpful. But i sit around 60-90 in the rankings when i should probably be 30-50 on my server
help athalia is just straight up killing my team
Iāve tried this for over like a week now and canāt beat it. do I need to wait to level up or what I canāt seem to beat it at allā¦
Swap Thoran and Daimon. Daimon shouldnāt be frontline anymore since he needs his shield to stay up to do damage.
Any suggestions?
lol thanks! can you dm me the stage? I don't check afk arena server much...
nothing. you hardly have anyone. just level up wu kong for now, don't make any legendaries, and try and get a daimon copy. dm me if you still have questions
Any help for this stage?
daimon
rowan
silas
thoran
lyca
Do you have a brutus? I beat that one with : brutus, daimon, rowan, merlin, and nara (make sure to put brutus directly opposing thane)
I have Brutus but only elite
how do grezh and tasi not just die instantly here? when i use the comp they don't even surive 1 second
probably barricade manipulation
manipulate power til gorvo's barricade goes to grez, and use barricade on grez to target tasi
at least that was what i did if i remember right
my fereal's power is 14m whlie grez is only 12.6 :( i'd have to remove all of ferael's gear and furniture or something aahahah
furniture is quite a lot of power, so making him 3f should be ok
oke i'll try it out, need to weaken tasi too cuz she has more power than my gerz
maybe need to keep in mind the hp too, maybe thoran taint skill matters too
yeah thoran's taint literally one shots my tasi
not sure how i'd keep her alive in that case
99% sure its just barricade, what stage is that, seems familiar
but if i'm not mistaken barricade is meant to save grez, and grez in the ss is wearing waistband
37-23
hm, your grez is probably just getting oneshot by crit AA from shemira, maybe you can rng that
Is there a possibility this was done before the deficit bug was fixed?
so i played around with the power ratings and i can manage to save grez from shem's first attack (which is what kills him), but taint still oneshots either tasi/ferael depending on how i manage their hp
i'll try double barricade
ummm what date should i be looking for? there's a clear of the same linup dated august 23
That's definitely after the bugfix, but was it the same deficit?
yeah, it's even a higher deficit by 3 levels
does ferael dies (by the taint skill) when you take out shroud? can you somehow make make taint target him when he's using shroud?
i'm managing to save both ferael and tasi now, as well as grez surviving shem's first aa. the problem is that grez dies very soon after to shem's next attack
is this just a matter of rng now?
at that point probably yeah, don't think there's much to change after you survive 1st atks. just pray for cc lock
tasi banishes shemira just a tiny bit too late even with call , such that she can channel like 0.1 seconds of her drain and that kills grez
not sure which GB to ascend next, any reccs?
thoran if you want to use him in campaign(and are ready to get him +30), otherwise oden
Can someone help me I have been stuck for awhile now
@final basin try this
Tasi
Lucius
Rowan
Shemira
Daimon
Read pins in #classic-questions
Stop making so many legendary heroes and non-priorities heroes..
I lost
Can i make a viable team with these?
You can make a pretty good one given your stage in the game, yeah!
Advise pls, i keep losin here
I recommend keeping Rowan in back mid, Wu Kong in the front line.
Hm, thatās a bit of a tough one. Iām admittedly half asleep,,/9 I donāt think I have the brain power for that. Sorry. ^^;
Okay
ehe
@outer grove try this
Silas
Daimon
Rowan
Izold
Desira/lyca
Its basically a 4 v 5, oden takes a hit and dies no matter where he is placed
In a early game team, whats the comp, 1 carry, 2 supports, 2 tanks?
Would the carry be in the centre?
Is there a right set of artifacts for this team?
Help please? š
thoran doesn't get nearly enough damage out when he ults :(
So Iāve reached the 160 limit and am wondering if itās best to ascend my Belinda using my mirael and hogan to L?
Rowan is a must, eironn is good especially when you get him to mythic, thoran is a great tank, nara can be useful many stages, shemira is good until chapter 20
Donāt ascend heroes to legendary if you canāt instantly ascend them to legendary+, this way youāll only waste fodder
Have you tried taking his equipment off, except boots and maybe weapon?
yes, and furniture
So i build these 5?
Try thoran brutus lyca gwineth daimon or thoran lyca oden geineth daimon
Oh i see you also have daimon who is a top tier carry, literally if you focus on him youāll fly through chapters
I dont have a daimon
Mb i looked at another picture, well yes work on those 5, seems like a decent team
Shemira top front and thoran bottom front, eironn back mid and nara back bottom? Rowan is the other slot
Guys what should I change?
Yes this should work, sometimes rowan also works front if shemira dies too quickly
Try brutus rowan lyca tasi/eironn daimon
Thanks but doesnt work :(
Check afk helper youāll find more comps
Whats that
Can someone helped me ? I tried this team for a while and i can't even killed the saveas Who stayed at 1 hp every run
Are there any midgame recommended team set ups?
Show ur box
Yes Iāll send you something
Neither works.. maybe my heroes are too low? Mine is 180, enemy is 269..
Oh well you have that 220 ascended daimon that should work.., sometimes the game wants you to try 100 times or to afk for a while
Any help?
Why are u not using mirael?
Use the L+ ppl
And ur other l+?
Need some Help pls
Brutus rowan lyca shemira daimon
I died š
@pale kettle its not working
Cz ur using multiple carries use tasi instead of daimon and make ur l+ assassin target saveas
Probably use Arden too and remove Thoran and place mirael 2nd spot only possibly u have to see battle how it plays out
how would they make their silv atk enemy sav in the first place
what lineup should i make for campaign? chapter 11
Legally Blonde already answered, but im just looking for more opinions
Current lineup: shemira, thoran, rowan, eirron, lyca
Forget Shemira and probably put Brutus and tasi and remove thoran
Can someone helped me ? I tried this team for a while and i can't even killed saveas Who stayed Alice with 1 hp every run
Remove Nara put Eironn in 5 or 4 most likely 5
I already tried Eironn before nara
No way u lose otherwise pull sav with Nara but I don't see why u use Nara instead of eironn
A choice could also be to use tasi instead of Thoran to banish saveas. And ofc with eironn in 4th spot or 5th
No matter what u need to pull saveas or it's goodbye rowan
Because Nara blocked safiya buff but Eironn can't
Safiya is not the problem saveas is
I could find a lineup that work with Daimon in front Rowan in middle and Eironn in 5 to pull saveas
Cool
Silvina will probably do a better job than daimon and put Aiden in 3rd spot for a chance to root saveas
.
need help i really want to clear c23 today
@warm yew try this
Seveas
Sulvina
Mirael
Rowan
Arden
Didn't work, but i luckily got it with this. Silvina tped to top mage distracting enemy hogan from rosaline and ainz for a while, letting me get 2 ainz ults off along with rowan and my hogan knocking enemy mirael back
I've been stuck for 4 days now how can I progress
Why are you making every thing L? Read the pins in #classic-questions you messed up your shit lol
Can I overcome this deficit? Feels not even close.
Why are you keeping your resources, just use them, push everything you can in peaks of time and tower, use afk helper for campaign it might help you a little, use your diamonds only on x10 summons
Try brutus lyca daimon rowan ainz or albedo brutus ferael eironn/nara daimon
Stuck
Try thoran daimon rowan lyca nara
thnx it worked
Is this a decent lineup for campaign? 
Warning that I kind of F'd up with ascensions according to most of the guides.
Yikes lol
Why my daimon team is too weak to beat this who I need to make it strong?
Not that bad. You can use shemira as food. Oden is great late game so no worries for him. It's just lucius if you get his other copies you can also feed him..
Rowan 30 SI
hey kinda stuck rn trying to push. Is there any formation that i can push further or am i just hardstuck for awhile š¦
How would that help?
Show your all heroes
Rowan 30 SI is one of the best SI
I know he can restore energy for first ult but it's not helping here
You tried him with 30 SI?
You asked why my team is so weak who I need to make it strong so i said " you need rowan 30 SI to make it stronger"
U sure that is enough to make this team strong enough to beat this stage
Not confirmed tho but it's quite good. Also Merlin not gonna do much there . Farael would have helped too much if he was just even 20 SI.
Okay thank you. Then I have to get farel first to ascended for the best.
Which will take some time but if it can make it a solid team then great
@grave shuttle you can also try tasi instead of merlin there.
Ok
It doesn't work but it's ok for now. I'll garrison back my ainz and albedo in two days.
Help me pls idk how to fight against a Baden
Hey guys, is this even possible to cheese with Lucretia? Or should I try a different mercenary https://i.imgur.com/E8yfV7t.png
How could I make my defense stronger?
Pain.Help
Stop making so many heroes legendary you lost so many fodderā¦. Try saurus lucius isabella eironn lyca
they all lood pretty solid, if budget burst is losing a lot maybe you could try GB team for first team and alna luc cycle for second team
Merlin is frontline here
i am fucking blind it seems
Personally I'd run arthur over desira with merlin middle back, and experiment with replacing burst with skreg cycle.
My Merlin team has never lost. Itās the other two struggling.
Can someone helped me i can't beat it even with ainz
ainz is not very good in that comp
try fera or oden if you want to try do it mercless, lucr if you want to do it with merc
try oden instead of shem
oden in the middle*
what artifact
I would put wukong in place of shem and get wu pulled by nara
oh fera available? yeah. fera
the problem with fera is only L, so might be hyper squishy
oh wait. thoran taint might gib
maybe fera in the middle, oden on the bottom, raine with shroud at pos 3
whoo's shroud
the cele artifact
don't have it
use wukong*
wukon has eye, idk if its teh richt arti
hang on I don't see any furniture on your izold
he has 1 myth furni
well that's great, drop izold
do you have any red cards available?
most of my hero's have only 1-3
1 myth and 2 leggy
izold before 3f is literally unusable
not as his deficit
my account is a train wreck
account lvl doesn't matter right
RC is hero level
I would try this: izold/grez (with the best gear) raine opposite nara, hendrik, nemora opposite shem
only thing account level is useful for in this game is the field of stars thingy, other than that account level is useless
wdym account is useless
how can an account be useless
you want nemora to charm shem and shem to silence isa
if Isa ults start killing you, you may be forced to run oden which would require an even lower ally to take the taint
account level, one of us is smooth brening rn i think
heck even lucr carry. my hypo tower is at 50 deficit with E+ lucr carry 

imagine reading
what account lvl is suiting for where i'm at rn
i thought u were supposed be like at least 10x smarter than me, smh JD
congrats
nice!
smh can't even type either 
cheers m8! the real mystery is... how did your oden survive taint? I'm guessing level worked in your favor
drape is about the last artifact to use, BUT the defense at your level may very well have helped. Once you pass 100 level deficits, defense won't do much.
What artifact do i use on hin then lol
I did what you said and sacrifice some of my Elite Tier heroes (Mainly my ace Mirael), and now I am doing even worse in the tug of war. I get to 1250 every day... And then before I wake up for the day Im already back at 1190.
Throughout the rest of the morning and afternoon, it has a chance to sink further
need comp for TR lul
any way i win this?
I mean itās not like you have many options⦠estrilda hogan mirael solise satrana
Help
My lineup is Rowan, grezhul, Daimon, Raku, and Merlin. If I use a hero selection chest, I can get either Daimon or Thoran to mythic+. What should I do?
Definitely daimon
Alright thank you
Hey, was wondering if anyone wants to help me get to 5 teams? i want to get to the point of 5 teams that dont overlap but have kind of a hard time, thanks in advance
Sure
Uhm.... it doesnt let me send screenshots of my heroes
Scribble on them, recrop, add a filter. Discord is touchy with its filter.
Alna close to 9F?
5/9
Got cards?
Next question, still have your swap scroll?
No sorry, i swapped my thane into daimon
Bruh this is impossible
Well you're missing a lot of important stuff and might need to update furn wishlist, but for now you can run lucretia cheese with 4 sacrificial hypos and maybe a brutus, charm core with mehira rowan daimon, a team with eironn carry, one with atha carry then leftovers for r5, could even be gwyn carry.
And what is this "important stuff" i should look out for?
Grez 9F, chicken 3F, lucretia 9F, raku 30, thoran 30, the entirety of ainz comp, graveborn as a whole lacking investment.
Still obtainable through garrison
And arthur is just a lab store buy, should have him by now for sure.
THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE F2P
That does look pretty impossible, someone smarter than me needs to be called in.
I really want to get to floor 300 (about 3.5x deficit)
I alr had an a daimon 220 so I canāt help with that lol
@worn pilot you know scuffed accounts like the back of your hand, figure something out
Fuck you
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Read pins in #classic-questions, you have way too many legendary heroes and building the wrong heroes
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Lucius is bad, but he also belongs frontline at a low deficit
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Start working on Daimon
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There's always the option to restart your account and play optimally, which is more than possible to get you to chapter 36 as a f2p in 8-12 months max.
I have been playing for about 4 months now there is now way Iām backing down
Ahh- 4 months I think that is way to long for ch 21 lol
^
It has only taken you that long to get there because you haven't been playing optimally. You have severely hindered and slowed yourself by building wrong heroes and using all the fodder copies to ascend everyone you can instead of waiting to ascend a hero fully with 8 copies.
4 months is enough to reach Ch30 if you try hard enough @gilded needle
2 months for 30 is easy now 
Best comp on guild hunting???
Daimon is +20, Rowan is +13. Not sure what else I can try I get completely wrecked. Halp!
Skreg or titus pls
Thane
@devout path nah hes bad
Plz help, i just need this last fight to unlock mythic gears and star gaze ToT
pls help i'm hardstuck
help???
Drop sarus Nara and Ainz
Put Daimon where Ainz is, Arden where Nara is, and Golus/Brutus over Saurus
arden?
Dwarf wilder
aint got him higher than blue
He doesn't need to be, still one of the best supports in the game, ascensions don't mean shit
i lost faster
How.
