lineup-help

[viral dock]

The Belinda are too strong

[dull flame]

alna isn't cause she celestial, but the rest are. Remember to stargaze for lucretia first tho

[dull flame]

spam the retry, or replace eironn with fereal

[viral dock]

@dull flame i found out a way to win with

Daimon
Brutus
Fera
Thoran
Oden

Thanks

[spice marlin]

Help

[dull flame]

whoooo! good job! figuring it out yourself is much better, and you learn faster!

[viral dock]

Could got an other grez in the purple cristal now one left before 5*

[dull flame]

your ainz is 0 investement, thus useless, take him out for lyca, if you don't have her put in brutus

[dull flame]

important thing is his 9/9 furn and +20 sig

[viral dock]

He i don't have any coins for pull furn even if i buy them every day in shop i got nothing

And lm doing Ainz SI 20 before im waiting for the grez furn to start SI

[dull flame]

yep, ainz higher priority, but albedo gets +30 first

[viral dock]

Im waiting to have enough for Garrison bedo

In 5 Month i should got the 2 of them free

[dull flame]

nice, remember to garrison queen and ezio after that

[pale kettle]

What’s stargaze? Just regular crystal summons

[viral dock]

@dull flame ezio ? Not joker ?

[dull flame]

you get it when you hit chapter 16. You can choose one hero to stargaze for, and do summons. You can use stargazer tickets or diamonds, 10 tickets or 5k gems for 1 ten pull. Maximum of 7 ten pulls will be needed to get the hero you choose(you can get it before then, as well as getting 2 in one ten pull, as well as a tiny chance to get 30k gems). Because you can get a hero you want, choose cele/hypos, and mainly lucretia. You won't understand what I'm saying right now, just screenshot it and look at it when you reach chapter 16.

[viral dock]

I think after i Garrison bedo im gonna buy the dim gear for Ainz like that he's just gonna need his furn

[dull flame]

tbh it depends, ezio for me has more usage in chapter 36, I'll go ask some higher skilled friends about it

[viral dock]

At least im Happy cause im close from chap 30 and haters said i will never cross chap 30 with 3M power team and only with like 5M or else im using team that have 2M and they work

[pale kettle]

Alright, thanks a ton

[dull flame]

they've helped me a lot, and their advice is pretty much guides

[pale kettle]

Oh I forgot to ask srry, but should the general team be
Oden
Daimon
Tasi/Rowan
Thoran
Shemira/support

?

[dull flame]

you can ping me, I don't mind. Something more like this
oden/fereal
thoran/brutus
daimon
rowan/thoran/brutus
tasi/fereal/oden

[pale kettle]

Oh ok nice, I didn’t realize I had tasi in my box until now lol

When would I have to use brutus? I would like to keep in mono graveB but is brutus a better tank?

[dull flame]

brutus is really good for when there's really heavy burst that thoran and rowan can't deal with. he has invincibility, so really good meat shield for your dps

[pale kettle]

Ahh I see, alright I’ll keep rolling for him too. Thanks for all the advice and help

[sturdy mango]

Any suggestions? 'Get higher rarities' is a valid suggestion here too lol

[dull flame]

no problem

[dull flame]

put dps in the front rather than back for this.
skreg
numisu
santrana
atandra
brutus

[sturdy mango]

I died because the top Nara just decides she's gonna grab Numisu instead of Skreg

[dull flame]

atandra is your dps

[sturdy mango]

Yes

I am saying I used the formation you suggested, and the top Nara grabs Numisu instead of Skreg

[dull flame]

try swapping atandra and numisu

[sturdy mango]

aaaalmost

[sturdy mango]

The closest I got was 3 down. Thanks for the advice though

[drifting sand]

Does anyone know how to do it? I already tried it 50 times and it isn't working

morrow guild trial

[astral wagon]

I hate this trial so much

The chick in the upper right enemy team is always the 1 who takes me out, i got limited options to play

[gaunt sonnet]

Just look it up online there are plenty of guides

[astral wagon]

"Lineup help"

[pulsar sedge]

Halp ;0;

[mental nest]

Any formation ideas to pass this pls? I’m stuck

[mental nest]

Maybe put silas or solise instead of twins. Twins not for campaign

[pulsar sedge]

Ok

[vagrant ibex]

Put brutus into crystal it help you

[mental nest]

It’s only elite

[vagrant ibex]

Its ok you need him last garp only

[mental nest]

What lineup should I put with Brutus

[vagrant ibex]

But have a try
Rowan thoran
Daimon teleporter dumbledore/tasi

[mental nest]

Huh

[vagrant ibex]

Brutus and nara is needed for daimon carry

[mental nest]

O

So which 2 I should try on front and which 3 should be back?

[vagrant ibex]

Rowan thoran
Daimon teleporter tasi/grandpa with wand

[mental nest]

So back row is daimon tasi and Merlin?

[vagrant ibex]

Not tasi but graveborn who can teleport ppl

[mental nest]

Oden?

[vagrant ibex]

Yes i dorgot the name haha , but if ita not work you need to use 1 other cc and swap merlin

[mental nest]

Everyone’s just dying and leaving daimon to 1v5

What’s cc should I put

[vagrant ibex]

Thats what i thought brutus would be gud additional , ... i think try tasi

[mental nest]

Tasi just dies before she can get her ult

[vagrant ibex]

Try to used daimon energy artifact
Have a try
Thoran lyca
Oden rowan daimon

[mental nest]

Still just getting completely run over 😦

[solar kettle]

try thoran rowan
oden daimon lyca

[mental nest]

Yay, just went with highest ascension team and got it

[solar kettle]

nice

[storm epoch]

are you using Arturus lineups from reddit?heres this one too

pretty sure its Prince manual ult 1st timing might need to retry a bunch

[maiden vapor]

ya, u basically have to mash the first prince ult and auto the second and third prince ult and first nemora. Then ainz as soon as stun happens and prince when that stun ends

[storm epoch]

r4 artifacts Nemora Call, Prince Call, Albedo Barricade, Ainz Blade, Morrow Eye

[neon swan]

Any ideas? Whole team is getting gibbed by the Rosa

Im hoping a ~160 deficit isn’t too big for Ainz

[maiden marsh]

It isn't, try swapping lyca for a sacrificial ezizh perhaps.

[neon swan]

Sure, i’ll give that a few tries

Ainz is trying his damnedest, no luck thus far

[maiden marsh]

Is ezizh dying before albedo so she survives?

[neon swan]

Yes usually.

Arthur also isnt +30 which isnt helping my case

[maiden marsh]

U try the low clear?

[neon swan]

Whats that

[maiden marsh]

In the replays, the top one

[narrow lark]

^

[nova aurora]

Good comps with my heroes please

[maiden marsh]

5 pull
Daimon
Random stuff left over, you're out of carries lol

[nova aurora]

Oh, i dont need carries, they don’t really work anymore

[dull flame]

this. could do speedy lizard

[nova aurora]

Unless he gets a good cheese doesn’t work really well

Is there any Eironn safiya comps i can do with that

[maiden marsh]

Eironn saf is part of 5 pull

[nova aurora]

5pull?

[dull flame]

do get 3/9 tidus tho

[nova aurora]

Im kinda out of metas, what’s a 5pull

[dull flame]

skriath
lyca/tidus/lorsan/queen
eironn
lyca/tidus/lorsan/queen
safyia/lyca/tidus/lorsan/queen

[fierce viper]

eironn safiya skairaith, lyca, and tidus/flora/talene/rowan

[dull flame]

did....did you put flora in 5 pull?

[nova aurora]

Eww

[fierce viper]

if all 5 enemies are grouped and flora's SI goes off it can be okay

[maiden marsh]

Hey you didn't even know what 5p was until ten seconds ago

[dull flame]

flora decreases everyone's haste with sig, isn't good for 5 pull, which is based on cc+burst, of course who still uses 5 pull without lucretia

[nova aurora]

I was using chicken saf eironn, rowan talene

Wasnt bad

[dull flame]

what chap you in

[nova aurora]

Ill try this 5pull tho, tyall
34

[dull flame]

have windbinder at 3*?

[nova aurora]

S p e a k m y l a n g u a g e

[dull flame]

fck. do you have the artifact for mage known as windbinder at 3 stars

as well as a copy of mehira

[nova aurora]

Not 3 stars

0 actually

[dull flame]

what about a copy of mehira and the swap scroll?

[nova aurora]

Nope 0 mehiras

I wanted it for the god comp tho

[dull flame]

god comp died half a year ago. who are you stargazing

[nova aurora]

Mehira. IT DIED? Welp..

[dull flame]

get one copy, then switch to lucretia. do you have the swap scroll?

[nova aurora]

Nope

[dull flame]

who could you have swapped with ffs

[nova aurora]

Rowan

[dull flame]

he-he doesn't need furniture ahahahahha

[maiden marsh]

Rip 9 furn

[dull flame]

imagine being at a 130 lvl deficit....you can clear that with anything then...

[fierce viper]

143. I get that it's not very high, but he doesn't have that many heroes

[nova aurora]

Tyal

[dull flame]

hmm, yeah, you're right about that...I was thinking about forming a stall type for him using flora and talene. how's flora btw? never got to build her

[dull flame]

where did ainz go

[fierce viper]

@dull flame I really like her as an enabler for Daimon. The downside of building her SI is that she isn't as good with thoran because she decrease enemy damage

[nova aurora]

Pff I wasn’t actively playing when ainz came in the game

[dull flame]

yeah...that's why I don't want to build her...will eventually tho, and just get an e copy for thoran

[nova aurora]

I really regret that part

[dull flame]

there's a thing called garrison

[sand basalt]

I need help with this, i keep loosing. It’s probably bc my characters arnt lvled up enough but i just need better line ups 💀

[nova aurora]

Theres a thing called nah im lazy to do it

[dull flame]

there's a thing called then it's not our problem that you can't make a team

[nova aurora]

As i said before, tyall.

[dull flame]

try this
shemira
lyca
mereal
rowan
daimon

[dull flame]

tbh you should get ainz and albedo tho, it's for your own good

[sand basalt]

That didnt work 😭😭

[dull flame]

wasn't supposed to really, but how many times you retry that?

[sand basalt]

Once, shemira lyca and rowan died instantly

[nova aurora]

Just one question, why did god comp die again?

[dull flame]

daimon is you're damage dealer, you retry that 10 more times and then come back

[maiden marsh]

Because it simply can't push the deficits superior comps can.

Mehira core is certainly still a thing though, talene ezizh and twins just suckass

[dull flame]

it didn't die quickly, the units were needed elsewhere, rowan and mehira in charmzard, twins and talene in speedy lizard or not used, ezizh in thoran cheese, it also got outpaced by teams like ainz and lucretia cheese

[sand basalt]

NVM I MADE A DIFF LINE UP AND WON- IM GOOD

[dull flame]

haha good job

[maiden marsh]

God comp died waaay before charmizard was ever a thing, though people were using mehira to support izold and the like for a long while

[dull flame]

whoops, should have said mehira rowan

[maiden marsh]

Speedy lizard...existed. More reddit guide hype than anything afaik.

[dull flame]

well it did work, even with an elite+ twins so~yeah. absolute sht team but it worked

[maiden marsh]

Talene clung to life as an izold/GB support before being mostly phased out, ezizh occasionally finds use when he can survive or just gets thrown in thoran

[dull flame]

I can't really say for either of them because they're both at e+ for me, and I've never used them

should get ezizh up though eventually for pvp

[maiden marsh]

Biggest thing that killed god comp is luc/alna taking priority + like 10 teams that can easily push higher deficit.

[dull flame]

yessssss, everyone forgot about god comp after lucretia 1v5'd

I can remember when it was all the hype tho, "just build god comp, and you'll get to endgame"

[maiden marsh]

Back when powercap was like a 120 deficit so anything worked

[dull flame]

yeah, when a 90 lvl deficit was considered pro

now, 200 lvl deficit is nothing....

I'm heading to bed, night everyone

[worthy steeple]

I like speedy lizard

[rancid cloud]

Step bro. Help me Im stuck here

[maiden marsh]

Try lyca brutus (barricade) over daimon and thoran

[worthy steeple]

Eironn pos 4 instead of thoran

Oh, wait... Atha

[rancid cloud]

What is (barricade) ?

[maiden marsh]

The artifact

Tank one, put it on brutus. Lucretia's best friend.

[torpid mesa]

Help

[torpid mesa]

How did you do it ss

[rancid cloud]

Im trying to get the barricade first from the trial haha

[torpid mesa]

Oh okay

Could you maybe ss it when your done

[latent rapids]

Any ideas?

[maiden marsh]

Lyca instead of lucius, lorsan instead of daimon

[sterile oxide]

@torpid mesa try this

[nocturne furnace]

😭

[smoky anvil]

YO

[pale kettle]

Just 5pull it, should be a breeze with ur levels

[rigid imp]

does 5 pull even work with that athalia

[maiden marsh]

If eironn dodges, sure

[pale kettle]

I did it , i think u need a lyca though

[pale kettle]

[latent rapids]

I don't have lorsan. I gave you a picture of my heroes

[maiden marsh]

You don't have even an E lorsan

[pale kettle]

[latent rapids]

I don't think so
What would it do though?

[maiden marsh]

His link works at any ascension

It would make killing that brutus much easier

[outer grove]

Can i pass this somehow?

[fiery wing]

can i see your box

[outer grove]

Is this what u mean by box?

I do there its elite+

[fiery wing]

ohh i mean fereal

[outer grove]

No i dont :(

[fiery wing]

hmmm try

oden

lyca
daimon
brutus
nara

[outer grove]

What is >put it in the front?

[rigid imp]

use brutus instead of izold

[outer grove]

Okay

[fiery wing]

yeaaa you shoud put lyca and brutus in campaign it really helps

[outer grove]

I see

[fiery wing]

and btw dont ascend anyone to L if you cant make them M

[outer grove]

Okay

[bold meteor]

Ok I'll give it a try

There's no chslice??!?

Nvm I'm stupid

[pale kettle]

???

[bold meteor]

Help

[outer grove]

Um does any1 have an unactive alt i can bind my summer codes to?

[signal canopy]

Rowan Erionn Tasi Fereal Gwen or Diamon

[signal canopy]

Try it if you want not sure if mines inactive long enough

[outer grove]

Okay

My code is ags7js

[humble knoll]

Any chance I can win this fight? :-/
Not sure of what to use, the deficit is kinda getting a bit too huge for my Lv160 units...

[signal canopy]

Alt wasn't inactive long enough to input a code 😢

[outer grove]

Oh okay thx man

[rigid imp]

no its not,your heroes can do that just use this team
ferael (lyca if eironn can't pull)

thoran
eironn
brutus
daimon
give it a few retry

[humble knoll]

Ty, will try later today :D

[pulsar ferry]

what would be the best team set up right now for me. I can ofc swtich people into the crystal if needed

this is what I am currently running, just want to make sure I'm getting a good idea of the game and how to make a team

[bitter tide]

Any idea for this ? I’ve been struggling since yesterday

[bitter tide]

Thanks!!

Worked like a charm!

[strong meadow]

i need help ive been stuck here for days. i dont want to be stuck until i can use someone else unit

[pale kettle]

Need some help please final fight to finish abysmal any ideas

[quartz compass]

Who should I stargaze

[amber halo]

Stargaze?? U shouldn't stargaze.

If u do then celepogeans and there are guides to priority on that

[outer grove]

Does any1 have returning player acc so i can get the hero chest :)

[distant plume]

What can I change here for grezhul to be able to scale? I've tried with daimon/silas/mortas, but I still end up getting stuck at silver 2, which is worse than before I got Grezhuls 9f

[pseudo quarry]

you need to hire a very strong talene. you want talene to get nuked. boss nukes whoever does the most damage to him at different time intervals (i forget the timing)

[rigid imp]

better attack manually, 9f grez does a lot more dmg compare to before that

[pseudo quarry]

ideally a 309 talene with blade or eye

[pseudo quarry]

you can send me a friend request. looks like my talene isnt merced yet. she doesnt have 9f yet though but 30si. could work still though. 104909618 my ID

[distant plume]

I have a friend with maxed Talene so it worked out. Went from silver 2 to Gold 2. The twins die at around the 55 seconds mark, so I guess they need some more investment to survive the entire battle

thanks for the help as I kinda forgot about the ability of the boss 😅

[viral dock]

Some help pls

[quartz spade]

Is this line up good?

[jade shore]

Help?

That athalia ult is shredding me and prince stuns her twice but it isnt enough to stop her from lying

[zealous iron]

Unless you are whaling stargazing sucks

[minor tulip]

That’s who I’ve been using for PVE vs what I have. Who should I change in the lineup/ focus on? I’m PVE focused

[stone holly]

guys this aint working for me, any suggestions?

[light viper]

any help? im stuck in this phase

[rigid imp]

maybe this
daimon

brutus
eironn
saurus
nara/fawkes ?

[light viper]

i don’t have a built brutus; you can see in the second image

[plucky laurel]

Help

[astral jay]

@plucky laurel try this
Numisu
Prince
Rowan
Daimon
Lucretia

[plucky laurel]

Didn't work sadly

[cerulean atlas]

Any ideas, I got the artifact on them also. (The one from the guide) @dull flame

[outer grove]

Does any1 have returning player acc so i can get the hero chest :)

[plucky laurel]

man by now you should have already got it

without returning player

[upper pebble]

Thoran,Rowan,oden,eirron,damion

Might work

[rigid imp]

same eironn pull with different hero
daimon

brutus/thoran
eironn
thoran/brutus
nara

[pale kettle]

Alr won lol

[desert lintel]

If anyone thinks they can help me push 36-48 -> ch37 (trying before mv ends) without a perfect box, let me know 😄

[bold meteor]

Ok I'll try it

[bold meteor]

This?

If it's that it failed miserably

Someone help plz

[pale kettle]

I would try rowan tasi daimon eironn ferael or rowan tasi eironn ferael daimon

You can also try brutus (if you have him) lyca daimon rowan ferael

[viral dock]

Can someone helped me pls ?

[pale kettle]

Lyca brutus daimon eironn ferael should work. Switch their places until it does

[viral dock]

Lyca infront of Daimon ?

[pale kettle]

Yes

[pale kettle]

Try lyca lucius belinda rosaline cecilia… maybe check afk helper too but I’m pretty sure you won’t find that type of team there since it isn’t one of the greatest

[jade onyx]

So I’ve seen this work for others, but I’m not sure which artifacts to use since it just seems to cause a wipe since my Ferael doesn’t survive and keep the Athalia stunned

[raw minnow]

It worked ty so much

[pale kettle]

I think you got them all right… maybe eye on ferael would be the only one change i would do

For some reason, changing the formation here brings me back to square one of my issue, where I seem to be stuck on 1190, but I once again cant get to 1250 before it happens. Previously, I could survive a day at 1250 before plummeting to the 1190 mark.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact I swapped out Rowan for Pippa?

Should I go back to Rowan or use Pippa? Or use someone else?

[pseudo quarry]

bru, pvp really doesnt matter when you dont have heroes for it, especially not as early in the game as where you are

[pale kettle]

Heres the heroes I do have.

I would take that mirael out and i would also try to get the faction bonus in some way. Also it is normal to drop positions overnight in arena when you’re on a newer server with active players so I wouldn’t bother much

Which of my heroes will help with the faction bonus?

[brave oriole]

Shemira it's much better

But why u capped still at 160?

[pale kettle]

For example thoran grezhul shemira for faction bonus

[brave oriole]

My guess is that you foddered a lot of heroes

[pale kettle]

Also i would reset the normal heroes because you need only 5 leveled up heroes…

[pseudo quarry]

man, you bricked your account. i would advise you read on the beginners guide in the pinned comments of #classic-questions. you dont wna upgrade heroes to legendary if you cant make them legendary+

[pale kettle]

You basically lost many resources on nothing

[brave oriole]

Go read some guides, your account is rlly fked up

I mean, I can't believe that's all the elites that you have right now, sure you foddered a lot

[pale kettle]

Technically, you can save your account, but its like a ton of hassle in order to do so.

[brave oriole]

Or they lvl 1, but read a guide and fix

[pale kettle]

Technically, it is possible to rescue your account from the mess that is Legendary without Legendary+. Its just gonna be a ton of pulls, assuming you have the heroes in question on the wishlist, boosting your odds of said heroes.

[pseudo quarry]

sure, but your account is an utter mess right now. other things i can spot that needs fixing: you have lvl 100 common heroes. retire those.

aside from your 5 L+ heroes that are lvl 160, youve got some heroes that you spent resources on like satrana and ankhira. as soon as you get a chance to, feed the ankhira and reset satrana at the rickety cart.

then youve got 4 fodder sitting at 160. based on how many L+ heroes you have its safe to feed 3 of them to make pippa tasi rowan mythic.

after that your situation with your 1200-tug-of-war should be slightly better at least

[pale kettle]

Lets say the first time I get a new hero registered, I immediately lock it from being used in ascension. But which heroes of the group I showed you should I just use to ascend anyway?

Thats assuming I stop doing the lock thing, and in fact, unlock some of these heroes

Go to heroes->portraits. You’ll see that you have 3 types of heroes: ascended tier ones that should be used in your team, legendary tier heroes that are used as fodder for ascended tier heroes and common tier heroes that you just retire and get purple coins for them

[pseudo quarry]

if you go to the hero library you will see hero categories are divided between Ascended Tier, Legendary Tier, Common Tier.

Everything that is Ascended tier you keep. Legendary Tier is food. Common Tier you automatically retire at the rickety cart

[pale kettle]

Would the level of the hero affect whether you get more out of the rickety cart?

[pseudo quarry]

no, the game refunds you all the resources spent on them

[pale kettle]

The game automatically refiunds the gold, exp, and essence that was used?

Yes

[pseudo quarry]

i also strongly advise you to read this:
#classic-questions message

no offense but if i were on your account i would just start over on the newest server

[main horizon]

Did anyone manage to do the 1st stage of Guild Trials without Mortas ?

[timid tulip]

Ideas? All or atleast most afkhelper comps use Saurus but he just dies for me in similar or same comps and I have better levels than a lot

[dull flame]

have you checked the lowest clear in the replays?

[timid tulip]

yes

thats one of the fastest losses out of all

[dull flame]

what did they use? can you send it?

[pale kettle]

They probably just switched places like 100 times

[cerulean atlas]

@dull flame

[viral dock]

Is it the best team i can do here ? Cause i did like 100 retry now and still not working

[dull flame]

swap position of nemora and eironn. see if you can get nemora to charm fereal when he fears

[jade onyx]

This is what I used

[pale kettle]

I think you need to afk a while and focus on ascending heroes

[cerulean atlas]

It’s for tower

[dull flame]

you use eironn to pull gorvo....

[dull flame]

try this instead
fereal
lyca
rowan
brutus
daimon

[pale kettle]

I’m blind sorry

[cerulean atlas]

Nope, nothing. Once the mular starts stomping they all die

[dull flame]

have lorsan?

[cerulean atlas]

Only E but yes

[viral dock]

Idk if it's gonna work Daimon is perma cc and everyone die fast

[dull flame]

link the skreg and fereal

[dull flame]

you just need fereal to fear the tasi, and then hope rng is in your favour

[cerulean atlas]

Wdym?

[dull flame]

he links furthest and closest. so if you put him at position 3, he links enemy position 1 and 5, if he's at position 5, he links enemy position 2 and 3. The link makes them take damage when one of them is hit. Great for killing tanks

[cerulean atlas]

So get Larsen in crystal?

[dull flame]

yep

[cerulean atlas]

Who do I replace?

[dull flame]

someone you don't use, send a screeenshot if you want

[timid tulip]

@jade onyx thanks will try out soon

altho no nemora xD

[dull flame]

would give you my screenshot but It's been almost half a year since I passed that stage, so don't have it

[bold meteor]

.

[dull flame]

coming

[dull flame]

you have brutus?

[bold meteor]

Ye

[timid tulip]

technically you can just scroll back in the list and find it. Towers arent like Campaign. Although no need to waste your time. Ill see if I can do the raku comp posted

[bold meteor]

E plus

[dull flame]

fereal
lyca
rowan
brutus
daimon

[bold meteor]

Rowan chalice or call

[dull flame]

when it gets too old, the battle replay disappears completely

[timid tulip]

ah does it. didnt know that

[dull flame]

rowan and daimon call, fereal eye, lyca eye, brutus chalice

[bold meteor]

Ok ty

[dull flame]

ping me if you need help still

[bold meteor]

IT WORKED SECOND TRY I FREAKIN LOV U

[dull flame]

lol no problem, dm me next time if you need help

sure

[floral cargo]

Athalia is kicking my butt all the time

[dull flame]

slot brutus in

[floral cargo]

Did nothing

My whole team dies until he’s the only one left and then poof he dies too

[dull flame]

cause your heroes aren't great

[floral cargo]

Already knew that thank you

[pale kettle]

I usually place rowan or brutus vs athalia

[floral cargo]

Yeah then shemira 3 hits my heroes

Ive tried everything lmao

[maiden marsh]

Brutus tasi/rowan ainz ferael lyca/thoran.

No swap scroll?

[floral cargo]

I have a swap scroll but im saving it for later when i REALLY need it

[maiden marsh]

I would count a 30 shem as really needing it, especially when rowan is +10

[floral cargo]

Well i built her 2 years ago so

She was the best carry back then

[dull flame]

how are you 2 years old

[floral cargo]

What

[maiden marsh]

Well she's quite useless now, and rowan 30 is considered very important to build

[floral cargo]

Yeah yeah i know all that and ive been trying to rebuild the account for a month now, thank you passed the level with rng

[lean lantern]

whats a good ainz lineup in general midgame? this what im using rn

[steep forge]

I've seen multiple clears of this stage In this order on afkhelper, but I can't just get this fight done even once. It is antandra surviving and safiyah that is linked to her or skreg with full hp. Do I need to drop some gear/artifact on someone to make it work?

[pseudo quarry]

i pushed to ch25 with ainz on test using mainly ainz, brutus, lyca, pippa, eironn with everybody except ainz at e+

sometimes slotted saurus/rowan/tasi/ferael in depending on the stage.

thing is eironn pippa lyca works well if you know who to prioritise pulling with eironn and who you want to throw using pippa (ally or foe, and which foe) cus that will affect how you position them

[lean lantern]

thx ill try that

[quartz spade]

Who should i use pippa or munisu?

[storm epoch]

for thoran leave weapon and boots only be sure to check artifacts aswell sometimes ppl have max call too pippas gear needs haste up

[finite iron]

I need some assistance with 23-18

[viral dock]

guys i found a guide for the stage 540 on arena but one of the team does nothing like the guide so i can't beat the stage can someone helped me to clear the stage ?

What could i used here instead the team i used need tricks but my team didn't do the same as the video i watch on YouTube for this team

[pseudo quarry]

you probably need to manual certain parts

[viral dock]

@pseudo quarry that's what i did in the video i have to Dodge a ball Tasi used on Ainz and used Prince ult at that moment but when i play Morrow and Ainz got killed by a Tasi auto and the ball never come

[stiff frigate]

Hard stuck on this one

[sleek maple]

need help

[storm epoch]

are you using the right artifacts?

[viral dock]

yes i look 2 time if i have the good ones

[storm epoch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/p9plhb/guild_trial_morrow_all_working_formations_for/

drop the auto and run without the speed 2x,4x

[jade shore]

Eironn
Daimon
Lorsan
Rowan
Tasi

Worked really well for me

But I was about 10 levels higher than u

[viral dock]

@storm epoch ye it's a replay i can't know when he's not using auto

the prince is faster than mine on the video i have the samle build wtf

im doing at the same time 1 min 25 the ult albedo and nemora die every runs at the ult timing

[maiden vapor]

R u doing prince ult right before it hits ainz?

Wait r u doing 548 or 540

[viral dock]

im doing prince ult at 1 min 25 but albedo and nemora still dying in the price ult

so instead of have a full team in the guide video i have 3 heroes

540

have the hero maxed engraving or maybe i have bad engraving

@maiden vapor and i can't doing Prince ult before it hits Ainz because it's a auto of Tasi and not a spell so it didn't block

[high marlin]

Don't frontline diamon until you unlock barricade

[stiff frigate]

Gotcha, I’ll just wait then cause I’m not making any progress right now

[sleek maple]

whats barricade?

[maiden vapor]

First ult - Prince is auto. Next Prince is not auto (half of 21s). It's important to hit precise. After this you must click auto in 1:16 (Prince ult 1:15, Ainz 1:13 and Morrow 1:12). After this remove auto and wait. Use ult Prince in 1:05 (manualy). After this you can leave auto fight.

[high marlin]

You need to cc or kill Ezizh immediately

[jade shore]

Yeah stall for a few more levels

I reckon u could do it at level 255 with that lineup

[high marlin]

A relic you get from trials of god, which you won't have since you're not chapter 30+ yet

[viral dock]

I hit the Prince ult at 1:16 Ainz die and Albedo Nemora die at the first Prince ult

[sleek maple]

bro ik that that is why im asking what to do now XD

[maiden vapor]

dont u get barricade at start of ch 28

[timid tulip]

still nothing works on Wilder 229

[jade shore]

I think u get barricade at chap 28

It's the first ToG

[pseudo quarry]

yep, barricade is from the first trial of god, that you unlock after clearing 27-60

[high marlin]

Been a while so my bad. Even still don't frontline diamon til then

[jade shore]

What's the best carry in cel tower at E/E+

[maiden vapor]

but ya, i still wouldnt front line daimon w/o alna outside of very specific stages

[jade shore]

My alt struggling to progress in cel tower

[jade shore]

That's why I asked this question

[maiden marsh]

The issue with cele tower is they all suck ass at E

[high marlin]

Does rowan have any t2 gear?

[jade shore]

Damn so no progressing for me huh

[pseudo quarry]

celestials dont really have a carry to push high deficits with

[maiden marsh]

Talene flora alna ath and whatever junk you have is your best bet

[sleek maple]

no

[high marlin]

Ah well if he did you could frontline him. You can still try

[jade shore]

Yeh ok I'll try but I think my best bet is just leveling up

Cuz my alts celes are trash trash , dont have a single one higher than L

Does daimon need T3 gear

[maiden vapor]

no

[jade shore]

Should I T3 izold then

[maiden vapor]

if u have him built, they ya

[jade shore]

Ya both are built

[stiff frigate]

I did it :)

[maiden marsh]

Very nice

[high marlin]

Diamon is like 8th or 9th on the t3 priority

[viral dock]

So it is possible to play an other team on that fight ?

[pale kettle]

Hello, I'm struggling on 10-21 and every 3 or 4 levels are pretty hard to get... I am currently building Thoran, Arden, Rowan, Mirael and Rosaline but there is no problem to switch if there is a better composition

[maiden vapor]

not that i know of. u kinda have to learn the timings to do 540+

[viral dock]

Ye but the hero die where they should not

[high marlin]

It's called rng

[high marlin]

Keep your carry dps 20-40 levels ahead of your team

[pale kettle]

Oh okay, I though it was more like 10-20 but is the comp good enough ?

I might have a very good composition hidden in my collection

[high marlin]

Definitely 20-40. Also looks fine except for Oden

[pale kettle]

You mean I should put Oden instead of one of the 4 others than Mirael ?

[high marlin]

You can't pull Oden from blue stones but you shouldn't get level capped

[pale kettle]

Oh I see

I can almost put Golus on L+

[high marlin]

For the rest you could swap Thoran for Lucius since he'll provide a bit more value at that level

Also probably swap Rosaline for tasi. The rest looks fine

[pale kettle]

Isn't Rosaline great for helping Mireal getting more ult ?

[high marlin]

It's more of a preference thing you don't have to

[pale kettle]

Well doesn't cost much to give it a try

So I should go like this and keep Mirael 20-40 lvl ahead?

[high marlin]

You have rowan so energy shouldn't be a problem but yeah you're doing good overall

[pale kettle]

Thanks alot, gonna try right away !
This team is viable for a long time of I'll have to switch in a few chapters ?

[high marlin]

Once you get your main 5 to level 160 you'll have to get a new carry, which will probably be diamon for you

[pale kettle]

Ok ! So I got a bit of time still

That Hero essence is a pain in the ass to get

[high marlin]

Early game yeah lol

[pale kettle]

😂

Well thanks alot Scar !

[high marlin]

Np hope it goes smoothly

[cerulean atlas]

I still can’t beat it

[jade shore]

Grats

Eironn works really well with daimon

[undone hearth]

Ezizh really messes up what my Lucy can do

[high marlin]

Need to cc him

[undone hearth]

Been using eironn pull with moderate success but then Lucy gets caught on Brutus

[viral dock]

after the team is lvl 240 how many purple dust is needed to get 241 ?

[high marlin]

Use diamon instead

[royal stag]

6-7k not 100% sure

[viral dock]

okay

i need to get 240 3 hero but idk between fera oden and grez ( grez not 9/9 but link to ainz but ainz not build )

[undone hearth]

My daimon gear is really bad

Getting close with this comp

[silent shore]

have you considered putting the rowan near luc instead? and taking out daimon

[undone hearth]

What would I replace daimon with?

[silent shore]

merlin maybe for healing. The whole point with the SI 30 luc is to pull the enemies in while your heroes die to boost her. Try eiron

[undone hearth]

Got it with this. Ty

[silent shore]

yeah np

the whole point of the lucretia cheese is sacrifice so daimon doesn't rlly pair well

[bold meteor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/880120877222617129/880120951344341072/Screenshot_20210825-090557_AFK_Arena.jpg

Helppppp

[real schooner]

Try moving Rowan where Lyca is, Daimon where Rowan is, and replace Lyca with Tasi. Also, if you have extra emblems Numisu can become +10 and just stay there for a long time. Could also try swapping Ferael with Lucius or Shemira to see if they live long enough.

[bold meteor]

Huh? I'll try the movements but I have no clue what ur talking about with numisu

[real schooner]

Numisu puts a healing totem on your side at the start of the battle at +10. +20 and +30 just increase the health of his totems which isn't super useful, so you can make Numisu +10 and basically call him completed until way later in the game.

[bold meteor]

Where does tasi go ....

[undone sleet]

Any help please? Daimon gets cc’d so he can’t do dmg

[bold meteor]

O nvm

[real schooner]

Rowan, Brutus, Ferael, Daimon, Tasi

[bold meteor]

ALMOST WON ISABELLA WAS ONE HITTTTTT

[bold meteor]

Ye I got that once I used common sense xd

[grizzled spruce]

Anyone think they can solve this or do I just wait for power up

[bold meteor]

I'm a little slow sometimes xD

[jade onyx]

Maybe replace Brutus with Rowan and put Ferael with shroud in position 4

[grizzled spruce]

No shroud I’m chapter 30, I think I just wait til I get stronger doesn’t seem doable

[outer quiver]

Try swapping brutus to middle back so he distracts athalia perhaps?

[bold meteor]

Help please

[ebon hazel]

Swap Daimon and Fareal, then swap Rowan and Brutus

[bold meteor]

Kk

[bold meteor]

I FREAKING LOVE YOU YOUR LEGIT A BLESSING FROM GOD

[ebon hazel]

?

[bold meteor]

IT WORKED

[ebon hazel]

Better have

[bold meteor]

Help

[ebon hazel]

Bro...learn yourself.

Brutus Tasi Fareal Rowan Daimon

[bold meteor]

Ok ty

WTF HOW THO

IT WORKED dude teach me ur ways how do u know these formations

I WAS JUST STUCK ON 28-44 BUT MY SMART ASS THOUGHT OF A FORMATION AND BEAT IT WITH IT IM SO PROUD OF MYSELF RN

Oops caps lock

[rustic oxide]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/ - thats my secret

[silent shore]

i think ur kinda overeleveled for this cuz i was at least like 60 levels under you except for my daimon. All you have to do is just think about what your heroes are able to do, obviously you want the fereal behind cuz he's gonnna die but as long as tasi survives the initial hit, she can blink and still banish and shit. That's why she's frontline sometimes

and putting the fereal behind the brutus specifically ensures that he will stay alive long enough as brutus is tanking

[flat acorn]

If you had to pick 6 characters and could only use those 6 from stage 1-30 who would you pick

f2p or semi-f2p only

[leaden glacier]

This seems hard i have been 2 hrs on this

[haughty comet]

Is it ok to position Rowan in the frontline pre-160? I'm using Mirael to carry and would much rather have her in the middle back to hit everyone. Figured he can tank a bit due to his damage reduction passive.

[upbeat fossil]

i'd avoid it as he can't tank without T1/2 weap and boots

[haughty comet]

Where would I position him in this case, then?

[pale kettle]

I personally use him only front since I started playing this game and he always does his job so…

[haughty comet]

Guess I'll play it by ear. Thanks, lads.

[digital skiff]

Nemora
Talene
Gwyneth
Thoran
Shemira

Hey you should check out #questions and pins there

[floral cargo]

Tried lyca, rowan, tasi, brutus, everything. It’s too hard

[digital skiff]

Ainz
Thoran
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca

[floral cargo]

No chance

[tough fjord]

I'm stuck :,)

[digital skiff]

Daimon
Rowan
Silas
Brutus
Nara

[tough fjord]

It's not working sjdhjshdjs

[digital skiff]

Does ferael shit on your team?

[floral cargo]

Still struggling hard on 29-60

[tough fjord]

Yep

[digital skiff]

Either rng it or wait for reset

[tough fjord]

:,,,,,)

[candid prairie]

hello, can someone tell me which comp should be the best with these heroes ?

i'm running 5 graveborns with wukong but i might want to swap wukong + oden for mirael + rowan

[humble apex]

@ebon hazel ??

[ebon hazel]

??

@humble apex

[humble apex]

What was that clear

[ebon hazel]

Phone doesn't have image processing able to stitch two things together so I out them in here and screen shot it for afkhelper

[humble apex]

They have apps for that

[ebon hazel]

Yeah I personally use the app "Discord"

[humble apex]

Try stichpics

[ebon hazel]

Nah

[merry pivot]

Who should I use?

[latent rapids]

it depends

[nimble fossil]

The other formations I can do. I just need help with this one here.

All except for the following is available:

Saurus
Daimon
Rowan
Kren
Ferael
Tasi
Grezhul
Lyca
Silas
Nara (Not pictured)

[latent rapids]

Any ideas

[fierce viper]

@nimble fossil I have an idea but you might need Lyca. Sofiya eironn skairaith bacline, brutus tidus frontline. it all depends on if your eironn pulls first. Expect him to need call

@latent rapids Try using Lucretia + brutus with 3 heroes that will die immediately, using brutus to tank for lucretia

@silk burrow Do you have an elite copy of nara? you could use lyca + nara across from mehira, and then daimon + rowan + brutus for the other 3 slots

[vagrant ibex]

@silk burrow
Arthur lucius
Ainz rowan dumbledore

[silk burrow]

arthur linked to lucius

[silk burrow]

they die too fast

[limber sundial]

hey can someone suggest something for me to do here? My ainz is not able to ult because my frontline is dying a little too quickly

here are the characters i have

[floral cargo]

Athalia and ezizh kick butt

[grave shuttle]

Can't beat this final stage 😭

Lucretia signature 29

I have to wait 3 days to get her to 30

[worthy island]

Can u show the rest of your heroes

[pale kettle]

Been stuck here for a while now any ideas greatly appreciated

[jade shore]

Ainz isnt really good at that stage

[bold meteor]

I'm over leveled rly??

What level do u think I should be on and dm me pls I won't be checking here

[jade shore]

So switch Ainz with mirael back middle

[jade shore]

Yeah u really are

At that level people normally in chapter 29

[maiden marsh]

Brutus rowan athalia daimon lyca

[jade shore]

I mean 30

[pale kettle]

Wow thanks first time absolutely mauled it lol 😆

[maiden marsh]

[solid sky]

Any help appreciated

[pale kettle]

help, stuck in this Gb stage 136, team gets insta wipe

[astral jay]

@solid sky I insist you to read pins in #classic-questions also try this
Shemira
Rowan
Rosa
Estrilda/brutus
Tasi

[astral jay]

That's because your gbs are so weak. I think you are already using best team you can. try to swap some position like change oden and silas positive exchange thoran and daimon positive try using daimon in back. Also don't build oden anymore try to focus on farael and grezhul then thoran . Oden should be last one to be built after these 5 heroes.

[pale kettle]

Raku carry with this lineup: yes or no? I can make him L+. The alternative is Shemira

[astral jay]

@pale kettle raku can only carry when he has 30 SI. Otherwise I don't think you can use him as carry . Try using this btw
Seveas
Tasi
Mirael
Rowan
Daimon

[pale kettle]

@astral jay Thanks! But I have 1 copy of Daimon, he's not gonna work as the main carry

[astral jay]

Lol who said it?

[rigid imp]

daimon work at any tier, you just can't make him main carry if he's not M

[outer grove]

Halp, i keep getting melted

Nvm guys my gigachad brain already cracked the code

[proud estuary]

Help? Haha

[viral dock]

Help pls the ezizh counter my team

[signal canopy]

Switch around the back row a little. You only have 5 viable heroes so if you shuffling them around doesn't work then have to rent a 303 Izold and watch him clean the field.

[quartz spade]

How can i increase my oine up strength?

[viral dock]

@signal canopy im waiting for the food to make him M and i have 1 furn

[signal canopy]

He's pretty much useless without 3f.

[south grail]

Best pvp comp I can make?

[signal canopy]

Albedo Arthur Ainz Rowan Lyca/Merlin/Prince/Gwen

[viral dock]

@signal canopy i can't get any coins for the pull i buy the one in shop 3x every day and i still can't get a single furn for a week

[signal canopy]

It's just for this context getting him to M won't matter since you can't equip furniture yet

[viral dock]

Ye ik

[astral jay]

Try this
Rosa
Daimon
Mirael
Lucius
Shemira

Read pins in #classic-questions. Try to make daimon myth asap

[humble knoll]

Any idea?
Each unit nearly get OS'd

[proud estuary]

thanks alot , i think currently im getting outsped and out damaged.

sadly haha

[rocky panther]

Best team with those units?

[rigid imp]

can i see all your heroes ?

[humble knoll]

^ @rigid imp

[rocky panther]

is their a offical tier list?

[rigid imp]

try this
daimon

thoran
eironn
brutus
lyca
that was my team using for these enemy

[rocky panther]

Could you do one for me?

[rigid imp]

which enemy did you get stuck ?

[rocky panther]

none

i just need a better team since mine is fairly old

[rigid imp]

i think the pins in #classic-questions have an answer for you

[pale kettle]

Stop making so many heroes legendary

[grave shuttle]

I cleared 30-60

[rigid imp]

congrats

[grave shuttle]

https://youtu.be/30LsNHqvlO0

[mossy galleon]

Any help?

[vivid yarrow]

Omg

[humble knoll]

Same, frontline Daimon just dies before even getting to super
Ty for trying! :D

[rocky bolt]

Any Idea?

[rigid imp]

what artifact did you use for daimon ?

[humble knoll]

2* Call

[rigid imp]

maybe swap daimon and lyca position then
you should give each formation a few retry, like 20-30 time cuz its not always work

[fiery wing]

the yellow borders..... pain... dont make so much yellow border heroes if you cant make them Mythic such a waste of fodders

[grave shuttle]

You should garrison ainz. I garrisoned him at chapter 20

[humble knoll]

Not sure if Ainz would solve my issue here, nothing survives enough to super anyway xD

[humble knoll]

Finally, ty for the ideas \o/

[turbid venture]

Once again requesting assistance to help me form a lineup, because I stuck at making my own decisions. Thanks in advance.

[grave shuttle]

My team when I was in chapter 22. Leofric is trial

I mean 21

[fiery wing]

we have the same comp but my fereal only E+ and now i'm c23 still holding, with that and little rng you can easily sweep c22

[rigid imp]

with a "little" rng

[floral cargo]

Help plis

[void pulsar]

New player here. I hit a wall in story and tower and need some advice on who to stick in to my crystal and focus gear on

[rigid imp]

any hero you think that work (maybe tasi ?)

thoran
eironn
brutus
daimon

[pale kettle]

Tried tasi but went brrrr

Also tasi banishes uhh fera

[floral cargo]

Heeeelp?

[rigid imp]

isn't that the goal ?

give it a few retry, warek+brutus is pretty annoy cuz their dmg is insane

better hope that daimon kill warek before he got thrown cuz if daimon got thrown you fail 100%

[pale kettle]

Uhh speaking of that he does

[floral cargo]

Put daimon on the backline

[pale kettle]

I do and I won

[floral cargo]

Noice

[pale kettle]

@rigid imp I used this

[floral cargo]

Now can anyone help with this i’ve tried 50 formations at least 100 times

[pale kettle]

Dim what about don’t use Shem

[floral cargo]

I dont use shem

She’s an old hero i built 2 years ago, i soulbound her to ainz

[rigid imp]

oh shem 30 before rowan, sad

[pale kettle]

I can’t help with this .-.

[distant plume]

How can I deal with fawkes as he removes all GB buffs

[floral cargo]

Can everyone stop commenting on my rowan.. i built shemira long before i pulled rowan

[topaz sun]

which units are good and i should focus on?

[pale kettle]

Uhh where did u get that zaph from

[floral cargo]

Omg reset zaphrael and level daimon up

[topaz sun]

from summon lol

yeah i can level daimon up soon, just havent done it

[floral cargo]

He’s a really good hero, reset zaphrael and put daimon up to level 80

Preferably 81 if you can, but go to #classic-questions if you need better help

[topaz sun]

is there any other units than daimon to focus?

[pale kettle]

Imagine if u pulled his wife-

[floral cargo]

You can level up saurus too

[topaz sun]

is zaph not that good?

[floral cargo]

She’s a goat, zaphrael is wayyyy weaker than her

[pale kettle]

Me failing at stargazing lucretia D:

[floral cargo]

I pulled her with normal summons xd

Lets go #classic-chat the cooldown is too much here

[tender gorge]

I need some advice here. Trying to pull daimon, but otherwise I feel pretty stuck

[pale kettle]

First of all level up only the 5 heroes you’re using in your team, rn you have 7 leveled up which is a waste of resources

[zinc elm]

Help

One again I ask for your financial support in this crisis

[tender gorge]

I switched out teams and forgot to reset my others

[atomic bear]

I’m stuck

[pale kettle]

Try hogan thoran lyca shemira daimon

[pale kettle]

Same advice for you, level up only the 5 heroes you’re using in your team, rn you have like 9 which is a big mistake and waste of resources

[atomic bear]

Ok thanks I’ve been swapping my team but I haven’t reset yet

[astral jay]

@zinc elm try this
Tasi
Thoran
Mirael
Lyca
Tasi

[bold meteor]

God I suck huh :/

[high marlin]

Nobody sucks

[trail salmon]

Halp 🙂

[pale kettle]

Maybe try thoran rowan isabella/silas gwineth daimon

[midnight bronze]

Any ideas?

[trail salmon]

Alright will do

[pale kettle]

Lucius rowan daimon rosaline oden

[spiral agate]

I’m on Chapter 32. In terms of multi battles, I can get by with Ainz, Rowan and a random assortment of units for the first half, but I am really struggling to find a good team for the second half. I tried Eironn tasi lyca talene and daimon but eironn seems to just get one shot instantly no matter what. Ideas?

[midnight bronze]

Thanks

[pale kettle]

Check afk helper i just did this chapter with a few combinations tried from there and with similar heroes as yours

[spiral agate]

tnx it helped !

[midnight bronze]

Stage 22-60 isn't even fair Athalia one shots everyone

[pale kettle]

Try placing brutus thoran or rowan where athalia jumps

[signal agate]

Im trying 5 pull and it comes a little close but the nemora heals too much

[pale kettle]

Brutus thoran daimon eironn/lyca ferael, thoran daimon nara/eironn eironn/lyca ferael

[midnight bronze]

I did but she just ends up ulting which ones shots the rest of my team

[candid prairie]

hi, can someone help me on this ? #lineup-help message

[silk burrow]

check pins in #classic-questions

[candid prairie]

ty but i already saw these and they are pointless for what i asked

i have another question, will an elite lvl 160 have the same stats as a L+ 160 ?

[pale kettle]

I think daimon comp would suit you the best. Thoran rowan ferael nara daimon or a budget daimon team as brutus rowan nemora nara daimon

[pale kettle]

Obviously not, you ascend heroes for a reason

[shy pagoda]

Any suggestions?

[pale kettle]

Daimon thoran rowan/brutus lyca/eironn ferael maybe

[tough fjord]

Stuck

[shy pagoda]

Got it thanks. Daimon thoran lyca rowan ferael

[pale kettle]

Daimon rowan nara/eironn sylas lyca maybe

[viral dock]

Is it the best team i could used here ? It's been 3 days and like 200 retry on this

[pale kettle]

Lyca thoran daimon eironn ferael or daimon thoran rowan eironn ferael

[viral dock]

Eironn doesn't seen to work against gorvo

[pale kettle]

Try nara instead to pull nemora ig

[viral dock]

Nara grab but dont stun after the grab even with lyca she die to fast

[nova kettle]

Why are you not using ainz?

Dies too fast?

[viral dock]

My Ainz is not build

No SI no furn no gear

[small moth]

which team could i build around ainz to push campaign ?

[maiden marsh]

Get arthur and albedo, stop engraving merlin instead of ainz, slap in a fera or something in slot 5 and you're golden.

[small moth]

Alright ty

[whole bramble]

help please

[viral dock]

Any lineup i could do here without Izold ?

[raw lynx]

This Izold from stage solutions has one star less and no 9/9 furniture and my entire team with maybe exception of Nara is better than this one, yet for me this lineup won't work even with 1k tries, Izold dies immidiately from Oden, pulling him doesn't prevent portals from going through. Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

I’ve tried literally everything and nothing will work

[floral cargo]

Finally did it y’all

[maiden marsh]

[floral cargo]

Lmao

[copper sand]

Stuck, anyone wanna help?

[short bolt]

Stuck on 8-40 campaign please help with these heroes or tell me what heroes I should swap out with to beat it

[summer cedar]

frontline should be blade and chalice. I also recommend swapping Oden for Rowan(call).

[distant plume]

Any advice on how I can beat this? The afkhelper only shows GB and ainz teams

[copper sand]

Thanks it worked first try!!

[valid pier]

Any advice for dealing with 36-56 stage 3, the one everyone cheeses? When I left equipment on Pippa and Ezizh Tasi always survived the ult and killed Thoran/Flora... When I took it off Solise always survived and killed them.

[viral dock]

What team could i used without Izold ?

[gaunt dragon]

I spent 200 fruits of summer to get Rowan +30. Should I keep buying red chests or save for something else

[timid badger]

@viral dock you could try using nara to pull either the bard or sniper dude other than that its prob up to rng unless you can get Slylas to survive long enough to ult

[viral dock]

I don't have silas on rc

[timid badger]

Also try with daimon in backline so he can survive long enough to start ramping up

[viral dock]

@timid badger what lineup then ?

[timid badger]

Thoran, Grez, Ferael, Daimon then Oden

[viral dock]

Can't killed them because of lucius shield

[timid badger]

You can try replacing feral with nara to try and disrupt the lucius ult

[viral dock]

Nara grab and get killed by lucius then he ult

[timid badger]

Yeah without a sylas you're prob out of luck, unless you get really good rng

Sylas's ult is really good for daimon/oden who both need to ramp up damage as it allows them to be immune to damage plus his healing is just really good overall

[viral dock]

I don't think even with silas my team gonna survive my team die rlly fast

I think only Izold can unlock me but i need again 2 furn and a lot of food

[timid badger]

Izold has good sustain but he'll still get 1 shot by sniper dude

[viral dock]

Ye but i saw someone solo the fight with Izold 303

[dusty snow]

I just got ainz should I make a shemira m+ to link him to or should I just link him to gwyneth

[timid badger]

What stage are you at?

I would say link with gwyn for now as you won't be doing multibattles for a while

and you prob won't be using both at the same time as they are both carries

no need to ascend a hero who has very little relevance just to link with ainz

[dusty snow]

I'm at 18

[timid badger]

plus you'll want ainz to be as strong as possible

[dusty snow]

I will get albedo probably sometime this week

[hoary belfry]

Getting back into the game. Any tips?

[timid badger]

I would say just collect resources and push as far as you can, you'll gradually get more and more heroes just from playing

[hoary belfry]

So just grind story or

[timid badger]

once you get enough copies of a carry hero you can invest into a team for that carry

yeah you're at the most slogfest part of the game

progress is slow until you get your heroes to 240 since at that point the leveling system changes for the better

[hoary belfry]

Alr alr

[hoary belfry]

So I don’t need to change my load out orrr

[timid badger]

wdym?

[hoary belfry]

Like the heroes I have equipped

[timid badger]

Well you don't really have a carry hero

which is why I said you should wait untill you do and then look online for complimentary teams to focus on building

Like if you get enough copies of eironn to get him ascended up then you could focus your resources on a 5-pull team

[small moth]

any ideas ?

[timid badger]

can you send a pic of your box?

[fleet thistle]

is this thoran cheese right?

[dull flame]

yes....5* call will be great for later in c35 and 36...though I'm not sure you can cheese this stage, more like
kelthur
lorsan
ezizh
thoran
brutus

[sullen lance]

Can someone help me with this? Thane deletes my entire team in 5 seconds

[brave wagon]

use daimon

daimon, thoran, tasi, fera pop/raine

lyca is fine too tbh

[dull flame]

this

love your guide btw

[fleet thistle]

don't have kelthur rip

[sullen lance]

Who goes on the frontline with thoran? Daimon?

[brave wagon]

ty

[dull flame]

elite is fine

[brave wagon]

thoran and lyca/tasi. Secondary stat creep is basically non-existent in ch31, so you should be fine dodging with those heroes

put thoran on the magic dmg side (bottom) and tasi/lyca on the phys dmg side (top)

[fleet thistle]

don't have him, apparently i fed him i don't even remember

[sullen lance]

I'm still encountering the problem of Thane just teleporting everywhere deleting everyone

[dull flame]

hmm, nara could work

[brave wagon]

in that case try to just rng a lot

[sullen lance]

Does ferael do anything if he dies instantly?

[dull flame]

so stat creep is in c37?

[dull flame]

only needs beginning fear most of the time

[brave wagon]

stat creep is continuous , but it's just not bad at all in ch31

[maiden marsh]

It's a slow increase as enemies get better gear, making it quite noticeable by 37

[brave wagon]

you really start to notice it in ch36 though

[maiden marsh]

Rowan's dodge tanking days are long gone

[dull flame]

ye.....getting one shot

[echo reef]

What should I do

[dull flame]

quit this account....

[echo reef]

Is it really that bad?

[dull flame]

well it might be easier to start a new one

everyone I crossed out is pretty much worthless in campaign

[echo reef]

I can ascend Rowan and I have a lot of dupes of other heroes that aren’t crossed out

[dull flame]

problem is the ones I didn't cross out are all support/tanks, not dps

[languid talon]

Hmm what to do here boys, they just outheal me, and if I go for more damage I die too fast. https://i.imgur.com/DkRzI72.png

[dull flame]

take merlin out for lyca, he isn't doing anything

[pale kettle]

Should I ascend Gwyneth or Estrilda to legendary?

[dull flame]

neither, you wait unti you can get it Legendary+

[pale kettle]

Since i am quite new to the game and relatively low level if you could tell me exactly what that means I’d really appreciate it

[dull flame]

you know how you make a hero to legendary?

[pale kettle]

Yeah that i do

[dull flame]

well, it's not the highest tier, it goes to L+, then mythic then m+ then ascended

to go from elite+ to legendary, you need 2 e+fodder. To go from legendary to Legendary+, you need an elite+ of the same hero

the problem is, getting another e+ of the same hero could take a long time(6 months for a hero and 2 hours for another, happened for me)

so you end up wasting fodder for other heroes in that faction, and it limits progression

[pale kettle]

Ph ok perfect thank you

[dull flame]

no problem, feel free to dm me if ya need help

[pale kettle]

Thanks

Actually I already have 2 fodder, being Morvus and Hogan

So out of the two which would help me progress more in the campaign?

[dull flame]

you don't want to use fodder as carries, because they can only go to L+

and neither are good(if you have a follow up, reply with the ping, I don't check often and don't mind the ping)

[pale kettle]

Ok perfect thanks and sorry for disturbing you

[dull flame]

oh no, I love helping people, feel free to ask anytime

[languid talon]

didnt work

[dull flame]

grez
thoran
lyca
rowan
daimon

[languid talon]

That'll just get my Daimon banished by Tasi, but I can try it I guess

[upper pebble]

Brutus,Rowan,Lyca,eirron,damion

Maybe might work if not try to swap brutus for grez

If not then idk

[lone viper]

Brutus or Skriath?

[maiden marsh]

For?

[lone viper]

Trying to decide which one to upgrade to red

[maiden marsh]

Should've led with that, and this belongs in #classic-questions anyways. If you must choose, skriath, but the answer could just as easily be neither for your situation.

[unkempt shadow]

what should I do here :O?

[sand basalt]

I need help 😥😥

[sleek coyote]

any ideas?

[dull flame]

tbh you can only do a shem carry for now, try switching to daimon later on
fereal
lyca
rosa
rowan
shem

[delicate osprey]

mauler tower 405

[mortal mural]

So I’ve been struggling in campaign and wondered if I should just go full investment into ainz team? I can +30 both ainz and albedo (I don’t have thoran at +30) if I sacrifice some Poe coins from chests and I have 7 myth furn select cards saved as well. I can also +20 both arthur and Merlin too.

[dull flame]

try this:
safyia
skreg
kren
tidus
skriath
or
kren
tidus
safyia
brutus
skriath

[pale kettle]

I dont know it is good?

campaign 22-15

[dull flame]

your not doing too bad. I think important thing is albedo +30. Merlin +20 might not be needed without 9/9. I'd recommend ainz to 9/9, albedo and ainz to +30. And albedo to 3/9. Investing in ainz is a game changer, I did it and boosted progression. Show me your furn wishlist tho

[dull flame]

it's old team setup. If someone showed me this box in 2020 I would have believed them. Outdated and out of meta. Sorry for being harsh, but that's how it is

[pale kettle]

ye its fine thats why im asking

[delicate osprey]

thanks Meh, that second strat worked!

[dull flame]

yay!

[pale kettle]

and what would u say for what should i go?

[dull flame]

lyca 9/9 way overrated, who you stargazing?

[mortal mural]

Alna

[dull flame]

daimon, and stop making legendaries

[pale kettle]

okay habibi

thanks for ur tip

[dull flame]

......I'd recommend lucretia first

[pale kettle]

aka help

[dull flame]

pardon?

[pale kettle]

just wanted to say thanks for ur help

[mortal mural]

I have three, since I’m f2p is it worth to switch?

[dull flame]

oh np

[dull flame]

3 of whom?

[mortal mural]

Alna

[dull flame]

what chap?

[mortal mural]

I’m on 30

[dull flame]

how many lucretia copies

[mortal mural]

1

[dull flame]

see, it's really controversial on who to get first at your stage. I got a few really knowledgeable friends, let me consult them

[dull flame]

have mehira?

[mortal mural]

Not yet. I still have the all celestial/hypogean chest though

[cinder oar]

How many?

[dull flame]

how many can he have?

[mortal mural]

I meant the recent chest, sorry if that was unclear

[dull flame]

you building daimon

which you should regardless

[mortal mural]

I have him at 203 since he was/is my main carry

[dull flame]

well...keep going with alna, but get a mehira from the chest

[cinder oar]

Is alna better than lucretia?

[dull flame]

when he has daimon, yes

[cinder oar]

Mmm once I get my 309 lucretia, i’ll be carried

[mortal mural]

I have most gb ready to build , just waiting on fodder. Like I have a 2 star grez, 1 Star izold, 2 star silas

[dull flame]

do these things:

1. Albedo to +30
2. Ainz to +30
3. Ainz to 9/9
4. Albedo to 3/9(next priority)
5. Take out lyca from furn wishlist and put in alna
6. Choose mehira from chest
7. Get windbinder artifact from trials of god
8. Give it to mehira

[dull flame]

have both alna and luc 309, works like a dream

[mortal mural]

So I should use all the myth select cards I have? Just to confirm

[dull flame]

yes, ainz to 9/9. Albedo to 3/9. Then you can do the ainz stall ult trick

[mortal mural]

Stall ult trick?

[dull flame]

9/9 makes his passive hit at 1:15. You hold his ult until it triggers and halves enemies health. Then you let ainz ult, usually one shots

good in a team like this:
albedo
rowan
ainz
arthur
fereal

[mortal mural]

Thanks

[dull flame]

np, I'm heading to bed, dm me if ya need me

[mortal mural]

One last thing I just remembered, sorry. Should I pick alna from this event?

[copper oriole]

Hi can I get some lineup suggestions? My current lineup is shemira rosaline rowan thoran and Belinda. I'm at campaign 9-12.

[pale kettle]

Any advice for this stage? I've been stuck here for 2 days

[vagrant ibex]

@pale kettle
Rowan hogan
Ladyfire grandparoots tasi

[pale kettle]

That worked, thanks! Rootsboi was surprisingly good

[faint current]

Arden is good 81-140 and incredible 141-160

[zinc elm]

Two tasi?

Got completely destroyed :(((

[placid elk]

Stuck on this stage for a while
Any ideas for the line up-?

[astral jay]

Oh the other one is daimon

@placid elk try this
Daimon
Nemora
Rowan
Antandra
Shemira

[rigid imp]

can you show full heroes ?

[placid elk]

Alright

[placid elk]

Yes I can

[placid elk]

Is a good team almost beat it but still got defeated

[astral jay]

@placid elk try talene instead of shemira

[placid elk]

Alright

Daimon is fine cause he deals the most damage in the team right now

Still can’t defeated

[pale kettle]

Stuck. I’ve tried multiple different set ups and heroes and artifacts. I only have the first 4 artifacts unlocked though

[astral jay]

@pale kettle reset mirael maker her 140 and make arden 160 and try this
Daimon
Shemira
Mirael
Rowan
Arden

[turbid venture]

Stuck on the 4th level in Voyage of Wonders, please help.

[pale kettle]

Try to borrow a hero from a friend, that will help you

[turbid venture]

how?

[pale kettle]

Friends->short term, pick the hero you want and wait for your friend to accept your request

[turbid venture]

oh ic, thx

but what hero should i borrow

[pale kettle]

Try ainz, shemira, daimon, you can borrow 3 different heroes

[undone sleet]

Daimon dies before he dies any damage - what to do?

[turbid venture]

ok ty

[pale kettle]

Maybe brutus thoran lyca rowan/oden daimon

[undone sleet]

Lol it worked, first attempt. What are you, some afk magister?

[pale kettle]

I just checked afk helper

[regal valve]

Chapter 14-37 cant get trought most levels

[undone sleet]

What’s that?

[regal valve]

Also if there is like 50k deficit in power rating i cant win

[turbid venture]

just realised i can't because i havent completed 6-40

but instead of borrowing, would you mind helping me create a lineup with my own heroes pls?

[pale kettle]

Maybe shemira lucius saveas nemora belinda or shemira saveas thoran nemora belinda…

[pale kettle]

Thoran grezhul daimon shemira pippa/rowan

[turbid venture]

tysm

[warped ocean]

Any tips to help? I am currently very stuck on this stage. Part one is taken care of. Its part 2 i need help on

[rigid imp]

maybe put ainz and arthur oppsite of safiya instead of the gunner dude ?

[warped ocean]

Lemme try

Arther dies too quickly so ainz only ults once and insta dies

And he gets knocked back by hendrick cuz no 30 si

[grim palm]

Yo i need an Ainz garrison badly, can someone who has him add me to friends?

[fiery wing]

#mercenary

[rigid imp]

does arthur give any buff to ainz ? if not then maybe try brutus before ainz instead

[warped ocean]

Alr

[rigid imp]

safiya does high dmg, but i don't think she can interrupt ainz as much as the gunner dude, his stun is annoy af

[warped ocean]

How are u struggling with that deficit

[regal valve]

Tried every lineup, still cant do 14-37

[regal valve]

Idk most deficits=i lose

[warped ocean]

But ur at a positive deficit

[regal valve]

I have legendary gear on all, legendary+ on shemira

[warped ocean]

Oh thats y

U need better gear

[regal valve]

I am just bad i guess

[warped ocean]

Nah ur fine its just ur gear

[regal valve]

I cant get better gear tho

[rigid imp]

you should try arden instead of belinda, she can buff attack but it does nothing compare to arden control

[regal valve]

Will try that

[worldly apex]

can you show your wishlist

[worldly apex]

and gbs?

[worldly apex]

ouch, yeah thats about what i expected.
read the beginners guide in #classic-questions and copy the wishlists from there, you're really shooting yourself in the foot

and stop making L heroes without the copies for L+

[regal valve]

Should i start new profile or something

As i am stuck here

[worldly apex]

you can, or you can just wait and keep gathering loot/afk resources, etc, moving forward knowing your mistakes and how to avoid them in the future