#lineup-help
1 messages · Page 645 of 1
if eironn pull doesn't work after like 100-120 retries then use oden instead 
Could this team work i didn't find a better team it nearly win sometimes but i go killed by Tasi or lyca anyway in the end i could up the gear of fera and all my hero 220
have you tried using oden and ferael instead of rowan and ainz ?
@rigid imp instead of Ainz ?
i would try this
oden
brutus
ferael
thoran
daimon
Oh i didn't even see i used Ainz
Well i will try like 30 time to see if i got a close win
It work thanks
imma wait to unlock slot at the RC to put Eirron there that man stuck on E+ like forever alongside rowan
most of my heroes only at e+ except for daimon, thoran, thoran and a few fodder 
I can't find anything on Google about what to choose here can someone helped me ?
@fleet thistle thanks i will look that but it's look rlly hard even more without merc
Need help pls i would like to get my last HCP before it reset but i can't reach the 28-16
i think old Gb team might work here
oden
thoran
ferael
brutus
daimon
swap oden and daimon if estrilda and that gunner guy stun him too much imo
I got wiped out
can i do smth here?
Even with the swap Daimon could ult 1 run on 3
then i think you need some experiment cuz i'm don't know much about high deficit like that
It work after like 20 retry and High luck from oden
it remind me of a random dude with 6673 retries 
yeah he's too slow and enemy kill him in 1 hit
he only work for me if i put call on him and have lyca
Ye im against Isabella and my Oden throw every retry by not reseting her
It's so hard
can eironn pull without lyca ?
No
even with call ?
that harp guy is the main problem 
he randomly attack 3 heroes and suspend your eironn
Ye but from the like 30 retry i did oden reset 1 time isabella and i losed ...
I only have 4 days of HCP left and need 430 diamonds i hope to get them before and to get the E in the pull like that i got my A Eironn
Or A numisu for Ainz
Can someone helped me here ?
Need help, im stuck here
Who should I use in the crystal to help me with campaign while I level my fodders up to lv160?
Advice??? I’m not sure why the hell im having issues here
is there anything i can do here?
Don't use Lucretia. Too much cc plus Brutus
Merc gorvo for Brutus to CC enemy CC first. Gorvo and eironn need dura's call
okay so what do i change
Your comp. What's your other team
thats my box, rly new to multibattles and i just stargazed lucretia so i dont habe that much
I see. I'd check afk helper then to see some formations you can build
yeaa ill have a look
@latent kayak what your question about
Here
@high marlin thats the only team i can build, but how am i instantly dead
you should be using hogan and arden, drop the silas and grez
the wilder guy who pulls the roots out of the ground to root people
top middle of your box
Like this
yeah that should be a pretty good early team
I’m trying to build 4 strong teams with what I have for Chapter 35 midrange
Really I need the best 4 synergies as we all know we have to break up super teams to clear
this kind of stuff can be asked in #classic-questions i think
Throw in mirael and replace shemira
@pale kettle
read the pins in #classic-questions
I’m confused I was asking about the line up ??
yes but lineup help is more solutions to certain enemy teams, teambuilding is more #classic-questions type of stuff bc there are more details and intricacies
Ok ty
np
Who should i merc ?
209 or higher grez, 309 Izold (303 should work too but 309 is much better), and I think a 309 silas merc would work too
is this somehow possible with my "2nd team"?
Stuck again
What will help me beat this lvl
lol nvmm got through randomly
Lol
Wow no help… ( Shocker)
I wish is could help
I am stuck, can someone help me?
a nara and reading the pins in #classic-questions
is this clear bait? every other afkhelper clear is
oden
poozold
nara
thoran
fera
any ideas on that second team on my last stage?❤
nara
i keep trying to no avail, any suggestions?
guys help me please it's very harder
Can I please get some help on this stage? (Not sure if my box is being posted, because I tried two times, and it haven’t popped up)
these are my heroes what shoulf my lineup be
brutus wukong tasi mirael nemora, you should read the pinned guides @misty depot
could someone help me with this stage
any help?❤
not flora
is your thoran not +30?
it's M+ 20
Estrilda, thoran, talene (any ascension), lorsan, pippa
In that order
^
nope doesn't work that well
It definitely does. It is one of the most consistent cheeses of all time for that stage
the only one what is see is with 3 heroes lol or full teams over the lvl 560
Fake screenshot
How many times did you try?
30 almost 40 XD
what are your artis?
is thoran get ported?
sometimes
Make sure pippa has some gear
give him call and t2 boots
He should be getting teleported just fine
it's not mine thoran if you mean thoran
nah i mean pippa
You should be fine
thx again @hard forge and @nocturne furnace and srry for not believing in ya @hard forge
Yw
npnp
gotta use the silvina obviously
With longbow? I’ve heard she likes it
nah gotta put warden on
u need merlin for that stage
Does he need si? I have him bound to my L+ seirus
if bound to seirus then no
Ok good, I needed him for round 3
any help?
if you have an elite mehira put her in back mid and use raku and rowan
??
is this the correct arti setup?
Any advice on what my best 3 formations for defence and offense
I cant get past this
Who should I choose?
Save for now until you need an 8th copy.
Flora imo
Just google the lineups ^^
Try:
Farael
Titus
Eironn
Daimon
Nara
Do you have Brutus btw?
sadly no brutus 😦
Aight. Try what I said see if it works, give it a few tries.
@wintry jasper Another thing I see aswell on ur hero box. Try not to L+ more heroes for now until you get more copies (you kinda want 8 copies (4 E+) before bringing it beyond E+). Daimon can be ur exception since u need a carry, and Rowan is also an except if you can get him to M. Read the pinned beginners guide in #classic-questions for more info
okay was trying not to, figured it would be okay since I got 4 copies of lyca (was gna use her for any dimension people I grab I could have them at mythic)
my problem with that stage is it seem backline just get 1 shot sadge
Is it weird to not use tokens to upgrade chest armor
Appreciate the help, 30+ trys and soem rng and I cleared it, summoned 10 on graveborn and 10 on normal and got 3 ferael, up to 7 now XD
Nice! Always remember to give most formations multiple tries. This game can be pretty RNG heavy.
I'd rather call on prince most cases.
Any ideas before I rng this out
Help 16-36
@honest fern overlevel fereal
Nvm just beat it with merc
Hey guys, really new to the game, can someone just look at the characters I have and summarise to me what things I should be investing on lollllll, I'm on chapter 5 in the campaign if that helps. Thanks.
Overlevel wukong until he’s like 120
Show your wishlist
Yeah safiyas a pretty good mauler imo… biggest advice is just to not build anyone to legendary until you have 4 copies of them and are sure that you want to ascend them
Until 181?
Oh nice. Swap lorsan for raku, estrilda for morrow, and brutus for kren. There’s some more improvements to be made but I’m not gonna enough to tell you what lol
@limber sundial rowan, raine,morrow,gwyn, rosa for Lb: kren, tidus, skriath, numisu, skreg for maul: eironn, tasi, raku,pippa, lyca for wilder: Daimon, grez, thoran, fereal, oden for Gb
@honest fern take him as high as humanly possible and reset everyone else to 160
@honest fern then you can try: Lyca, thoran; ----, rowan, fereal. Dunno what other heroes you have but as of right now fereal is your carry. Im surprised you have an A hero at ch 16
Is it possible with my units to get 3 teams for 33-X
@rich siren yes
Okie dokie lets get it going 🙂
@rich siren work your teams around your carries, lucretia at m+ can do the final. You have ainz, and then daimon/izold
Lucretia currently is +25
ok thank you @autumn ginkgo @split prairie for the help, appreciate it
@rich siren she'll still do it tbh
so for now, I should just keep leveling wukong right?
and try to get more people?
@limber sundial have you used all the new account codes for pulls?
I don't think so
I havent inputted any kind of codes yet
Thanks for letting me know tho
uf4shqjngq – misevj66yi - dwn8ekefbd=== theres more but this will get you 65 pulls just make sure your wishlist is correct before doing it
Ty
ok Thanks, does this look correct btw??
no safiya???? 😢
also, my friends are telling me that whenever possible I shoudl rent peoples' ainz is this true?
@limber sundial they're referring to monthly garrison, and yes, he's the first dim priority
@autumn ginkgo safiya is 6th priority
So should I include a safiya tho lol
@limber sundial not until you have 1 of the main 5 priority ascended
not yet i think. ainz does nothing earlygame without albedo and si investment...
in my eyes, saf > skreg 😔
main 5 priority just means one of the five from each faction right?
@autumn ginkgo
@limber sundial no, there are 5 priority for each faction @autumn ginkgo the reason safiya is behind skreg is due to him being a powerhouse with SI/sig. Also Safiya isnt the main Mauler carry anymore, that's kren, still very viable, just not priority
why is oden before silas... silas is literally the best support for early/mid game tbh
too many good gb ig
@autumn ginkgo same reason mentioned above with skreg/safiya. Both are great, in my new racing alt though, oden has absolutely carried it in some cases
ohh ok. lol silas and safiya were my second and third ascended heroes so they hold a special place in my heart lmao. also i feel like saurus > lorsan
you can easily merc Saurus for guild hunts and twisted realms, so he is not anymore a focus for beginners
^^ this also alleviated the necessary investment to make him functional for new players for more important heroes while still benefiting from the few uses he does have. Lorsan however is used to push in campaign
@honest fern just rewent over your lineup, tbh man you should be able to clear 20+ fairly easy
So for now, I'm running out of character spaces, so should I just ascend combine all of my blue tier characters?
is that good to do lol
@limber sundial that's fine to do
ok thanks for telling me about the codes @split prairie now I got kren, ferael, talene, and raine
should I continue leveling wukong?
@limber sundial until you get outta the new player bubble yeah. After that I'd level up a mireal to leg+ 160 as a carry until you get better units
kkkkkkkkkkkk alrigyht thanks for all the help man
@zinc maple
Brutus shem
Nara tasi gas dude
Or brutus tasi
Nara safiya shem
shem silence is annoying
@haughty oasis change your wishlist to match this
Who would I replace her with? My current lineup is Thoran, Grezhul, Daimon, Rowan and Aren.
@turbid venture ?
Yes?
@turbid venture for hero choice chests like that, celest/hyp are almost always the best choice due to not being able to WL them like you can the main faction. You won't really use flora in campaign at all- but you probably will in tower when you unlock it
So I should still get her but don't use her yet?
@turbid venture tbh I'd just save it until you unlock celestial tower somewhere around ch 30. Don't really need to do anything w/ it atm as none of the heroes are top priority
Do you mean the King Tower? Because I'm lvl 38 but haven't unlocked the celestial tower
@turbid venture youll unlock it around chapter 30
Oh...you meant chapter. Anyways, thanks for the advice
help
might try this
ferael
brutus
eironn (with dura's call)
thoran
daimon
i think it should work with some luck
if daimon can't ult at all because of the gunner dude you can swap brutus and thora to give daimon more chance to ult
Help(? Is the artf the problem?
help for this stage? not sure what to do here
doesnt work both ways sadly i need one more mythic to inc lvl cap to 180 just waiting for that
well you might need some luck too, i can past stage 22 with your formation power and it took lots of retries
22 has been just straight up pain after crusing thru 21 the power inc is way too high
keep front the same but change twins for lyca and nara for feral
yeah they nerf ch20 and ch21 pretty hard
brutus instead of flora facing golus, thoran facing vedan, use nemora instead of mortas and hope that she will charm isabella
i can't find more solution cuz your box don't have nara
Nara?
yeah, a GB hero with excellent single control, she's the best to use to fight isabella early game
she work extremely good even at E or E+
this one
Oh and instead of nemora then?
might try this
nara
thoran
choose a hero to fill this, either nemora/rowan or maybe mortas
brutus
daimon
retry and hope that you win
if you retry like 40-50 time and still not win maybe you need to afk for more lvl
Yeah still 4 enemy's left
get your daimon to M, make him +20 and he should help you in campaign
Timestamps:
0:00 - Set 1 (Ainz)
0:32 - Set 2 (Luc 5 pull)
1:03 - Set 3 (Raku Daimon)
1:35 - Set 4 (Izold)
2:22 - Set 5 (Talene Saurus Tasi Silas Nara)
SG for alna and go for alna/grezhul?
Help me pls i can't find a team against Isabella
Help
Getting destroyed. Tips please?
@opaque fjord try rowan albedo front and ainz merlin daimon back
@viral dock
Thoran grezhu
Fera nara daimon
I only have Daimon and Fera with gear up
If you want to use rowan then you need to fear isabela
What it rlly worked 
Nice
Well thanks for the team
With your team you could beat map 29-30 i guess
@rapid sage no chance you shud gaze lucre
With that full gb team ?
@vagrant ibex actually I got pretty close and was able to kill everyone but Arthur and flora in the sky
And sadly lucy is a bit down my priority list so I'll be stuck for quite some time ig
Im stuck again :x
Do i need higher lvls or is there a way i can beat this annoying lvl yes ik im bad
Why you didn't lvl up wukong lvl 100 ?
Me?
lb sucks any way to win bs waiting 6 days?
what lineup should i use, this are my heroes please help me
read pins
what is pins?
pinned guides here on discord if you are on mobile scroll left and on top right there is a pin icon
oh my bad i'm just new
np
what should i use in lineup cuz my current lineup is Izold Daimon, Oden, Lyca and Silas but i just got chapter 20 and my izold is not that tanky, and i just got my rowan to mythic idk who should i replace with rowan
do you have the right wishlist? and are u using all the new codes
wait let me screenshot, yep i just got the new codes
this is my wishlist
change it to the pinned one in #classic-questions
when an hero on your wishlist reaches ascended or the number of copies you need to ascend, change it to the next priority
Here are some priority heroes you should do first if you can if you have 8/8 copies for them - You can use this to see the priority heroes that you should start out wishlisting:
(Not in a particular order, they have different priorities when one held against the other)
LB Priority heroes:
Gwyn, Rosa, Rowan, Estrilda, Raine, Hendrik, Morrow > Peggy, Eluard, Cecilia, Fawkes > Lucius > Rest
Maulers:
Tidus, Skriath, Kren, Skreg, Numisu > Antandra (for late game), Brutus, Warek (For TR), Safiya > rest
Wilders:
Eironn, Lyca, Tasi, Saurus, Pippa, Raku > Nemora & Gorvo > Lorsan > Rest
GB:
Izold, Grezhul, Thoran, Ferael, Daimon, Silas, Oden, Desira > Hodgkin, Nara & Kelthur > Theowynn & Shemira > Rest
There are heroes that you would like want 1 copy of early, like Cecilia, Lorsan, Brutus, Safiya, Nara & Kelthur
Overall you want to focus on the first group of heroes (the priority ones), before moving on to the 2nd and 3rd group, etc.
I would not get stars on anyone (carries) until you have aleast 8/8 copies of the priority heroes (The first group of heroes)
is that the updated wishlist and is it always updated?
the one pinned is updated
lmfao no way dude i get one shot
if you need any details about specific heroes ask in #classic-questions
Big guy destroys my izold which is my carry cant seem to get him to survive
thanks, did absolutely nothing. ferael isnt even a carry, idk what you are talking about
help
why are u using hodgkin u have thoran
remove the spear guy, move daimon to backline and fill other frontline spot with lyca or estrilda
thoran gets the same oneshot as hodgkin so there is no difference
thoran is dogshit earlygame btw, hodgkin is way better
thoran stun help in some situation, when both thoran and hodgkin die in 1 sec thoran always better
i mean yeah ig but my carries also get one shot sadly
well ferael 181 actually can become your carry unless enemy is too overlvl (i think for ferael its about 30-40 lvl)
dont have enough resources to get ferael to 181 sadly, as it requires me to get everyone to 160
help please
Idk what to do even with merc
WHat do i use this stage is hard for me the tp behind is destroying my aoe dps mage
Best comp including ainz?
There isn't one universal ainz comp.
can someone help
don't use daimon as frontline here, estrilda and golus control won't allow your daimon to proc his shield at all, put him in the backline instead
switch with rowan?
possibly
i pass it with
ferael
brutus
eironn with 2* call
thoran
daimon with 2* eye
Daimon with eye interesting lol
can use call too
I got recked by that athalia using that formation .-.
Nvm I won
“I got recked” try’s in more than once “nvm I won”
Just got most of these hero’s and i am sort of new to afk so i am not really sure which heros to use
Ainz albedo twins rowan ezizth
Anyone got some tips on what a good lineup would be with these Heroes? I have space in my crystal to get Heroes up to lvl.
This isn't the best comp even in pvp, let alone pve
There is no best ainz comp I just named a solid one 🤷♂️
Solid is a strong word for ainz cycle, but the point stands.
Need some help with this I have used this formation the most and a couple other with no success
Can you name some better ainz teams?
AAA merlin ezio, AAA merlin desira, ainzbedo desira merlin ezio, AAA rowan ezizh, versions with mortas as well.
hmmm try
daimon
rowan
oden
brutus
lyca
& yea get a nara if you dont have one
Alright thank you :0
It worked thank you again :0 and ya I still haven’t gotten my first Nara so working on it 🥲
Cool, good to know
Any idea ? I tried some variations but I'm getting destroyed each time
Any suggestions?
are there alternatives for kren ? i lack kren asc and already lent zolrath
not really, kren is the main hero for that comp because his ult is constant cc
^
you can try with maybe an E kren, no clue if that would work though, he might just die immediately
Someone Who could helped me even with merc
that comp has absolutely 0 dps. thoran wont be able to cheese an enemy thoran,
Yeah i figured that out. But any suggestions what to use?
First match using AAA + merlin and ferael
Third using : rowan lyca daimon mehira lorsan
does kren work in place of daimon for r3? that way you could try 5 pull daimon for r2
Can try but i doubt as in r3 daimon is main carry mehira can ult like once or twice only.
kren would also be the main carry
What artifact on kren?
call
But in that formation wouldnt kel switch places with eironn and i wouldn't be capable of 5 pull?
is eironn not getting his pull off? if he isnt than you can try call on him or take lyca out of r3 and replace her with barricade brutus
@dull flame
Put her in crystal also?
yeah
Okay
also show me the artifacts you're using
Help pls
you got a good graveborn team, ainz needs more buffs and suppirt, try this instead.
fereal
thoran
oden
brutus
daimon
I don’t got any on them rn as they are on main hero’s
then take it off the main heroes and give it to the maulers, as far as I'm concerned you cant retry battle for tower and campaign at same time
Okay
@dull flame thanks
np
I would like to know how to make team like that
Uh, well graveborns generally work great together, you want thoran protecting the fereal a bit more, and oden and feral together are great cc machine to let daimon ramp up, brutus there as a meat shield but can be replaced by daimon
I’m guessing I just follow this
experience outweighs guides, but yeah, fairly accurate tbh
Okay, thank you
Both teams didnt work. Will just wait level up my team mby it wouls help
And here ?
you can have a go this time, key is daimon, usually at position 3 or 5. You want thoran against burst(lyca and ogi), so you put him at position 2. You want daimon to get some protection, so brutus at position 1. Fereal needs to cc tasi, rng best at potion 4. Oden should relieve cc, at position 5.
Daimon
brutus
fereal
thoran
oden
So I beat that one then instantly get stuck again. It’s probably that they aren’t ascended enough?
yeah, that's probably why, but placement is key too, you can send it here and I'll take a look
Doesn't work this time oden and fera die rlly fast and Daimon get is ult rlly slowly
swap position of oden and feral
swap position of safyia and tidus
I still lose. 4 enemies alive
safyia(eye)
tidus(call)
santrana
brutus
skriath
try eironn position 4 instead of oden too
Nope, still nothing. I gotta go to work tho, thank you for helping!!
sure! dm me if ya need help
@hard forge Eironn against Tasi ?
maybe if he had a safyia
it might not work but its worth giving a try, it can give daimon heroes to ramp up on that are clumped up on while fera cc's them
nice pfp btw
lol thanks
Ye still doesn't work :/
he does, but imagine not having albedo
H e l p
Thoran, tasi, ferael, Rowan, wu Kong. Wu Kong should be about 20 levels above everyone else as your carry until level 100
Albedo
Brutus
Rosaline
Arthur
Ainz (Warden)
I used this at 35-48 (exact same enemy lineup as 36-48) at around the same deficit
Man this comp is annoying. Any suggestions?
@west walrus
One more time help please? Who has to follow Rosa , way weaker people have done it with this but I get smashed
rosa follow mehira
@inland egret mind looking at mine to ^
brutus daimon silas rowan rosa(follow daimon) 1-5 pos
Brutus rowan - daimon ferael silas
overleveled u can use another heroes to win this match
its not working any other ideas?
u can use tasi,lyca or ferael place silas
also make sure that book on mehira
@inland egret dude it worked !!
Can't beat this.. it's like fighting a team of endless thorans...
It's sad bc I've already beaten the final team, this was the 2nd to last team to beat...
@pale kettle It worked, thank you very much.
@rocky bolt np home slice
@inland egret ahh I copy well but Flora destroy me
do u have call 5*?
Ye
thn u can use another team sec
Thx man, but I just removed that one buff that gave them the fatal shield & restarted. I don't have those heros levels up anyway.
3v5?
yes
kelthur should share energy for thoran
mb not with 1 try but it should work gl
Worked 3v5
good job
Thanks for carrying me to ch37
maybe try lyca instead of queen is queen getting stun off?
Stuck rn. (Top row of heroes are my 4 A and Morrow)
what I did was
nara
daimon
lyca
thoran
oden
can someone check out mine its up a bit
What do I build next?
I feel like I am lacking some essentials but not sure what
What first atleast
Stuck, any ideas?
Plenty of solid 30s to do, between oden arthur kren daimon etc.
Seems like you didn't focus a celehypo from challenger store, which is unfortunate. Get working on zol from there.
If you want heroes to build from each faction, you can ask specifics in #classic-questions .
alna 309 thoran 303 izold 303/309
I have Oden 209 but in terms of what essential heroes should I ascend? I wasted most challanger coins on exchanges and rents so I didn't have a chance, and who should I invest in next?
You need a 209 grez like, yesterday. Then desira and tidus. Gazing prio is alna now for you.
any ideas
So graveborn wise it's grez, what about the others?
Tidus for maulers, morrow for LB, gorvo/nemora for wilders.
Look at my wilders, too many to upgrade
Actually pippa is priority there
Hey! For grotesque mage: i have Tasi, warek, twins, grezuhl, Cecilia and warek ascended. Which Formation? And who to ult?
Try rowan brutus daimon lyca flex (like tasi or eironn or silas or something)
How am I supposed to position this formation for thoran?
make sure thoran has weapon boots only itll be a bit tough took abt 5tries for me
I tried eironn tasi tidus oden sauras and fereal about 10 times and fereal worked the best should I spam retry with him some more?
If it seems like it's doing the best yea
Who's the best unit in game?
Grezhul, but really there isn't one. And don't take that as the greenlight to suddenly make an L grez as a new player or something dumb.
yes
I see
Also added saf
What specifically do you need help with?
Not the worst I've seen but yeah, looks like you never pulled any people
@ebon hazel can you help me out im stuck
@pale kettle try and get another daimon make him leg make shem leg + feed that shem to the daimon
Best you could do is Hodgkin Brutus Silvana Daimon Shemira
Repost it, don't feel like scrolling
Alright one se
there i feel like my team should be able to but some how i just get destroyed.. @ebon hazel
What gear does Rowan have?
Lyca Brutus Fareal Rowan Daimon looks to be your best judging by gear on Rowan
he doesnt have gear just craping purple
If that doesn't work you can try Arden instead of Fareal
Doesnt work im gonna afk do it for a bit and come back if it dont have it by then ill lyk
Maybe try Rowan Brutus Fareal Daimon Oden/Nara
yo can i get some help?
@rigid imp what did you use on this stage they literally shred my team lmao
In what stage
Merlin ain't doing much for you there, can just use Lyca. Grez isn't really doing much any and can be replaced with almost anyone.
Need help please been stuck on it
Drop Gwen for Tasi or Fareal
What is Respen burst?
Tried both didnt work sadly
how to counter this comp? ainz and mortas cant both ult together either from Isabella energy steal or fereal energy drain, and shem silence destroys ainz. also stuck on same comp on kings tower (208)
I just need a lineup for labyrinth
Nvm it worked
Then do Lucius Daimon Gwen Shemira Fareal
Golus Wukong Silvana Mirael Arden
alr
Need help with this one please
regular eironn sucking, replace grez with thoran and merlin with with lyca
took me lots of retries tho
can swap thoran with brutus if daimon doesn't die too fast 
Any suggestions for this level? I'm getting wiped out within 10 seconds and it isnt even a boss
Do you have Nara? If so, I would try putting her on Isabella.
I do but shes only Elite plus, I'll give her a try
Still got shredded, though I did manage to damage Isabella a bit more with that
This is normally my formation for most levels, and i just switch in Lyca or Daimon for back row as needed but it doesnt seem to work for this one
In that stage, I used M Daimon to stack bloodshields. Though, you only have him at L.
Yeah I'm starting to think this might just be a level I'll be stuck on until I can make my team stronger
Thank you for the suggestions 😃
help, 2 teams for multi battles
Gb team + ainz-bedo team ?
So ainz+arthur+albedo+rosa (followimg ainz)+numisu and daimon+rowan+tasi+ferael+lyca
Rowan and tasi frontline, make sure daimon is out of rowan potion range so he won't steal the energy potion
oki oki, thank u for ur inputs
Tbh idk who u have ainz, albedo, and arthur dim linked to
yea i had to unfuse some lmao
;-;
Call on Rowan and trade out Brutus for Erionn. Might want to trade out Lucius and/or Talene for more damage. You want Niru to die as fast as possible
+30 Rowan. Fereal is good. Tasi Probably won't want to run Erionn/Diamon forever would just go with Diamon.
Lucius falls off Gwen doesn't scale well into endgame
She's the only Damage dealer I have enough copy to accend to A
Erionn actually doing anything in the corner? Would you be better off with Rosa, Tasi or Morrow?
She's fine for now
He’s pulling vurk while Brutus uses invincibility to tank thane while prince gets the energy to stun
I need a little bit CC & damage who should I invest ? I currently have no idea who should I go
It was supposed to go something like that, I guess I just didn’t try it enough
Fereal Oden and Tasi
would try this
fill with your dps
thoran
eironn
brutus
fill with your dps
i suppose that gwyneth can stun them so put her at upper slot dps and put daimon at bottom slot dps
Daimon survired but Gwyneth got 1 shot lol @@
she can't even use her initial lightning+fire arrow ?
when I use rowan in bottom I almost win
I guess gonna give it some tries, thanks
She only need 1 more arrow to win
Lucius did nothing for you there
yeah lol
that stage actually pretty easy with daimon lvl 200 203, eironn gather them at 1 place, thoran revive stun them, ferael for extra stun, brutus roar for increase dmg and daimon take care of the rest
only daimon at lvl 200, all other was 160 tho
Lorsan might work instead if you have even a single copy
I have like none of them =))
could try thoran for extra stun, lucius suck, he can't even do his work
my thoran is only at E+ 😦
thoran work at any tier, the only thing he need is lvl 121
oh
we only need him for the revival stun
if you have fereal try using him instead of rowan to see if he can buy more time
I never get Ferael even have him on the wishlist
Gwy just can’t hurt Niru :((
Finally I won 😄 thanks dudes
Lol 4v1 50s and I still lose
i hate bugs 😦
i passed stage but it said error occured 😦
it did not count i am trying again 😦
These are the heroes i have currently. What are the 5 main heroes that i should use in campaign? I am currently stuck at 6-12 and have played for a day
I’m stuck help me :////
Work on leveling up your current heroes; thats what I can recommend right now!
Easy question use thoren cause he good tank and ehhh
and don’t level them up level up your fodders
For? Early game or just in general
This too because it references how high you have to upgrade heroes for later game
Aye but any help?
Honestly the second one is more helpful for early game
Ye it gives context on everything
thx for the help
Ive been grabbing these for forever im glad they’re helpful
What's this about?
And bro don’t forgot use the heroes your going to use in the resonating crystal don’t level them it because if you level up your fodders and they’re high level eg 80 lvl your heroes in the crystal will be lvl 80 without using resources on them and not use them later on or get stuck with just abs elite
a guide
What do the numbers on the heroes symbolize?
so basically just use 5 fodder to level up my resonating crystal upto lvl 160, right?
Green = tier I think I’m not sure ask rain he posted it
The higher the number the more useful the hero is
Ye cause your not using resources on heroes you might not use cause you don’t have copy’s of them eg thoren he’s going to be stuck at lvl 100 but if your fodders hero’s in the crystal are 100+ he will also be 100+ and when leveling them up from elite+ go straight to leg+ for any hero
It probably takes into account both their signature items and their legendary furniture; but doesn’t inform the user because its easier to just place them on a number scale
Because the second one I posted informs you about the signature items and legendary furniture needed to get the hero to a level deserving of keeping them on your team
I put shem middle because the ankhira webs the middle person early causing them to not ult fast enough (call on mirael)
Brutes is too op stg bro that 8 second invisibility is so dumb it’s the end of me every time I go up against him
Hello @turbid venture do you have a question ?
Any idea of lineup here ?
@viral dock have you tried putting Rowan in your team, and/or Daimon frontline so that he can ult faster ?
Put diamon in the middle and is lyca for haste and see how that goes xd
Oh uh, just help for a new lineup, thanks
@turbid venture I'd highly recommend you read the pins in #classic-questions there's a great visual guide for beginners it'll help you a lot 👍
Here it is 🙂
Already saw it before but thanks
@turbid venture have you come up with a new lineup after reading the guide ? I hope you can get a 2nd Daimon copy, so that you can put him lvl 140 and other heroes lvl 100
well i thought of daimon, thoran, silas, rowan and pippa
He any good for early game? I want to use him for a tank
Hello, just got my daimon to M. So what is a good team around him?
Help pls
Help pls
i suggest merc a maxed out saurus it really helps
Help Isabella gets ult and kills everyone everytime
why this stage is so freaking hard compare to other previous one ?
can't even kill 1 enemy, too much disruption from estrilda+hogan+ferael and mirael dmg is super freaking high 
How did you even make it there
well most of previous one is pretty easy to pass except for some specific stage
Playing with deficits under lvl 240 is pain
Can i get help pls ?
Hi mates can you please help me set some better team for challenger tournament
Actually
First: Albedo / Arthur / Merlin / Rowan / Ainz
Second : Talene / Saurus / Tasi / Lica / Eironn
Third : Thoran / Skreg / Daimon / Ferael / Numisu
help pass this stage with everyone
I want to do a bit of campaign but dont know what the best team would be whats a good lineup?
@outer comet try
Shem rowan
Gassman nara eiron
@fossil meadow thoran izold teleporter fera lyca/rowan do not make legendary before you has atleast 7 copies
@viral dock campaign
Grez thoran
Nara/eiron daimon fera
Tower
Thoran daimon
Grez/eiron rowan nara
Gassi forgot the name , graveborn healer
silas
Ye
Hi, can i get the best comp for the campaign pls ? (i also have Tasi)
Is this good?
Daimon just died after getting unbanished
Who is Gassman?
silas @outer comet
@brittle zephyr stop making legend heroes. Your dps is going to be daimon- so you shoud be using him, can pop him behind thoran and have rosa follow him till he gets ult off
Struggling a bit in LB king tower.
@twilit forum I would try a few combinations of Rowan and Brutus in front, making sure Daimon is always in range of rowan's potions.
hm
so can anyone help me with a lineup for this stage 13-25
Any suggestions about what to use in the last spot?
New player which characters should i focus on?
Hello @pale kettle,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
Please, who can enter my code? I really want Lucretia
Will try safiya infront of nara or fareal?
no
Sisnt wirk my team get one shotted
need somme help here, been stuck for a bit
Pls help
Try Lucius, erion, issa Rowan damion
Try swapping Lyca with Brutus
Use lucretia from mercenarys
Let me know if any doesn’t work
Any team comps
Try Brutus eironn as frontline, wu Kong Rowan and damion as backlibe
but isnt like damion a tank
She is
But also can be valuable at back line, eironn pulls all the enemy’s close, when damion was used as my carry I always used him at back line
It keeps him alive longer and allows him to produce more value
Also maybe switch wu Kong with shemera @frozen osprey
That’s what I suggest
oh ok tysm
Horse dude is tanking a lot of damage but that’s not a problem, the problem is vurk and Brutus are doing solid damage and tanking while ferael is holding his own too
Also they’re way over my level :p
A drawn out battle won’t do me well but as long as prince and daemon can ult enough the damage is set
Lyca is there for haste, I’m trying to use eironn to draw in vurk and Brutus for stun, and Rowan is a given
I also have an ascended 180 morrow
Hey guys I am pretty nooby, I just hit lvl 100. My main team is Graveborn: Daimon (M+, artifact +12), Grezhul (M, artifact +19), Nara (M, artifact +26), Shemira (M, artifact +0), and Isabella (L+).
I didnt play the game very seriously ever because I didnt think I was gonna stick with it, but recently decided I do like it a fair bit now Im just not sure how to progress from here or what to prioritize
dont laugh but i got myself stuck in that lvl 140 thing
Also when will you retire that ulric
I just joined the discord and I am sure my comp is what you would call "shit" but I don't really know how to improve it any tips?
Was i supposed to
Well, formation aside, you making all those heroes L+ is a major hinder for your progress in general, so I would recommend you stop that. And I need to see your hero box to recommend a bit better. And if you just joined, make sure to read the pinned guide in #classic-questions , its great.
Still wanting help to see if I could create a better lineup than my current one, please
Its not about using fodder to ascend. While that is correct, the risk you run by asending many heroes at once is that you may run out of copies for that specific heroes and get it stuck at L/M, and when you finally do get 8 copies to make a hero A, you dont have fodder rdy. Also, do you have any SI leveld?
uhhh I'm not good with abbreviations what does SI mean?
Signature items - on ur M and above heroes
ah oh yeah ofcThali 15,Grezhul 22, Satrana 12, Daimon 12, Skriath 10
Hmm, you rly need to get Daimon to 20 and he'll carry you.
You dont rly have that many options atm. Focus on making the recommended 5 fodders to L+ for now, with Mirael as a focus if possible.
Does she get such a power spike?
Yes
I think I will focus on that then
It should've probably been the only SI you should've lvled for now, but we'll make do =p

Its a pretty big powerspike, so def focus that =p
After that I probably focus on thali again
You should try to get Rowan to M and get his SI to +30 as fast as u can
well that could take a bit he is just legendary xD
make sure to use your HCP for it
what is a good team around daimon, currently i got rowan, thoran, flora and mortas around him
First of all, stop making heroes L / L+ without copies to get it to A. Now, on the lineup thing, Brutus & Thoran Frontline, Daimon, Rowan, Mortas, Oden, Naga (if u have it), Lyca, Tasi, Nemora (big maybe here).
so if i have 4 copies of someting i must wait till i get 8? i cant make them to L+
Yes
You only risk hindering yourself in the long run by making all heroes u can to L+
so leveling up is the only way to beat the stages? not ranking up a tier
and can hero's like niru go above L+
Uhh yes-
Oops
Niru cannot go above l+
so if i am not mistaken i need to rank up some heroes to M. otherwise i cant level up right?
What stage r u at
14
I got my swap scroll for chapter 24 what hero’s should I swap or should I wait on it?
Okay- m unlocks signature item which does help a lot but I would push as far as you can until you can’t progress then go ascend stuff
so i should wait till daimon is 180 and the rest 160 before ascending
Try gwen on niru
Try Saveas and Arden instead of Shemira and Daimon
yeah i can feel the pain
No enough damage to kill the tank with saveas only
My team can down the 4 pretty soon, then Niru alone can solo my whole team
Retry strat then
Retry 20 times already…always Niru alone solo whole team
20 times isn't a lot. Wait until you reach higher chapters. Some stages may take you thousands of them
yeah some lucky crit and blocks saves the day
How do I do this for real?
Does your Ainz not work at that defecit?
Only 203 atm. Though I only did formations without him in it
At that defecit he should work
What formation though? I need something to kill that Solise. She is the biggest threat, because when she ults, my team is dead almost instantly
Putting merlin across from her should help with that
wdym??
But in what formation? I tried using the other Dims with Wilders, but Solise still wipes the team. Merlin survives the longest, but still dies
Try arthur rowan merlin ainz albedo
I don’t have Albedo. Just Arthur, Ainz, and Merlin
oh no ainz no pedo 
Ah then maybe ferael instead
???
It worked! Thank you.
I can’t get past this. Can I have some help? Ping me with answers
Skreg satrana
Morrow lorsan flora
how to beat this stage
https://afkhelper.nax.is/kings_tower.php?floor=500#
Lots of solutions here that you can use
Might just take a bunch of retries if you dont go the lucretia route
thanks for the answer, but most of those comp at afk helper using an Ascended Luc, while mine only at M+ currently
Theres solutiond that dont use her below and at your level
but i already pass that stage with ainz comp
Then why are you asking how to beat the stage?
i just beat it before your answer
Oh i see
have you tried eironn ?
No one is going to do a full multi for you
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=35&stage=20
Ainz is worth it to use it at new acc? Or better this team?
Can someone please tell me if I should upgrade Estrilda or change to someone else? Or maybe I should change someone else? I think shemira Lucius and Belinda are a great combination, just not sure about tasi and estrilda
Lineup
@rigid imp ye
M oden, M fereal, or M silas?
@bright hill try this
Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Daimon
Silas
Yep
wow it worked!
Weird, the first attempt lost in like 5 seconds, but the second attempt won.
thanks!
Help pls
help i need to push 2 more stages & this team just deletes me
Better lineup please? (already checked beginner guide, just wondering if there's a better lineup than my current)
cant pass this level, anyone help?
daimon
brutus
rowan
cecilia/saurus/tidus
nara
Hello, what is the best lineup with that ?
Heya you could read the pins in #classic-questions, shemira has seemed to become outdated and you should try to not use her
Just a heads up Shem start to fall off at 22
Alright thanks 😉
Can someone help me?
help
show full box pls
Woukd anyone be able to out together a few teams for me? Using the team in the ss above to power through non boss levels but need better formations for multi-stage fights.
Just finished Talene so going to work on Lucretia for a 5 pull team, just need Skrath to A
Help pls guys im stuck here for a while
@viral dock try this
Oden
Grezhul
Rowan
Thoran
Daimon
Shem one shot Daimon @astral jay
sadly brutus can't tank shem, her silence affect daimon directly 
@viral dock try this
Ferael
Lyca
Eiron
Brutus
Daimon
and swap around Daimon & Ferale or Lyca & brutus. Try to make sure Eiron grips Baden before he uses is copy skill
If this doesn't work, try this: goal is to have Oden TP Baden before he summons his copies (if it doesn't work, use ferael and hope for the best)
Oden/Ferael
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
was it the first or second setup?
try oden/grez instead of eironn ?
Thanks
help
should work. i literally just did this to take the screenshot. there's no rng in these trial fights, so the outcomes will always be the same
swap brutus and lyca, use eironn in the middle to pull those enemy
doesnt work i have tried every position aith eironn
if eironn can pull without lyca then replace lyca with thoran for extra stun
would love to see your box pls
could I have help?
lucius just does not fucking die
his shield ruins it
Help me pls :))
maybe give it more retry, sometime rng will bless you
lmao same lvl
can you show your hero box pls, only a few hero like this is very limited, sometime low tier hero can make different
🤣😭
What is hero box ?
all heores that you own
place daimon in 3, ferael in 4. eironn in 5. if that doesnt work, swap brutus and lyca. if you had a pippa you couldve used her instead of ferael, cus she will drop the tasi on top of lucius and arden and stun em all
your heroes list 
E+ pippa can work???
That ?
yep, its just for the cc
let me try thanks tho
well yes but i don't think you want her in your team without thoran 
i actually cleared that stage on my test account using brutus lyca eironn pippa ainz, everyone was e+ at the time except ainz
Yeah
try
tasi
brutus
thane
estrilda
shemira/lyca
My Brutus @rigid imp
poor bruttus 🙂
brutus can do his job just like that
he has immortality
@bright hill brutus daimon , lyca/feral rowan,nara
can u help me?
yeah, brutus is use only for his immunity and the roar for extra dmg
@tribal tinsel show the entire rooster u have
sometime brutus roar can be used against enemy with high dodge, before having brutus my daimon fail a lot when facing lyca/kaz, after having brutus dodge isn't a problem anymore
man ur carries are wack af
U got swap scroll still?
no
dude who's your carry, i don't think ferael work really well as a carry when the are too many enemy above his lvl
idk what to say man the only thing that u have to be considered a carry is lucretia
Guys they have a lucretia if you didn't notice
saurus is my carry
yes but lucretia is 200 without furniture
i don't think his luc can survive long enough to become the mother 
200 lucretia >>>>>> any saurus
not really to be a carry lucretia needs at least +30
She's still miles better than saurus at 20
how do i beat this Kaz she is just too strong
use brutus
thanks man pippa worked somehow
maybe i'm too wick for this stage. my team dies so fast every time
Fortunately lucretia enjoys that
weak*
^^
well you need your teammate to die fast when you use luc so 
@rigid imp like that ?
Any way I can change my line up to beat this stage?
should work, if tasi still banish thane then swap brutus and estrilda
It doesn't work
well give it a few retry, i have a record of 703 retries for 1 stage 
and i saw an image with 1 dude have 6673 retries 
Wtfff
Any suggestions? Nara and Athalia kill Ainz instantly
erm, put rowan there instead of ainz ?
how to beat that athalia now
brutus
back lane?
yeah
place it like this
ferael
thoran
brutus
rowan
daimon
oh your rowan isn't M yet so use eironn instead
rowan is instant dead
It worked! Thanks 🙏🏻
try thoran
Try mirroring your formation
Nvm then
or even like this
nara
thoran/brutus
brutus/thoran
ferael
daimon
lost thane vs daimon 1v1 in the end fml

he has skreg
got it done thankss a bunch
Please help
@soft crane try this
Daimon
Thoran
Rowan
The legendary mouler you have
Sulvina
Can t cheese this stage. I tried many comp but this one works the best, only Brutus Staying Alive.
I just manual Thoran s ult after his death and fear but Brutus manage to shield most of my heroes, any idea/advice ?
if u time it right looks doable, the only real pain besides brutus i would imagine is tasi teleport
Managed to counter it with Kelthur doing his stuff
I’m only asking here BECAUSE I already glanced through AFKHelper. Literally it seems like most of the formations on there, even if I swapped out heroes for some, I’d still get beat
I got it thanks
Help
Any help?
Thanks, took quite a few retries, but worked in the end :)
@gaunt dragon try Brutus daimon, nara lyca rowan
@bold meteor rowan with chalice, Brutus, Backline daimon lyca ferael/tasi
@bright hill rowan Brutus, daimon lyca merlin/ferael etc
Hey anyone can help me ??
@marble salmon shemira instead of saurus
ok thx
What to use against this team.
First team :
Rowan lyca grez mehira oden
Second:
Arthur albedo ainz ferael merlin
How do I know what heroes to use I just started playing or is that not important
Help
Help please, last of chap 22
I got that one but now I’m stuck on this
Nara hook the Isabella
@gaunt dragon a bit complicated this, try talene instead of thoran, and swap Brutus lyca. If doesn't work well, swap then Brutus talene
Can i get some help pls ?
I’m not stuck, but what would be my best mono graveborn team? And who should I else should I be trying to get?
How many hero did you lvl up ???
graveborns are a solid faction, but you shouldn't run them by themselves. They need support too, like tasi, alna, and rowan
safyia
brutus
eironn
thoran
daimon
Don't have safyia
not even 1 copy?
No
well that explains some stuff
Like what ?
Oh are those support heros in different factions right?
try this lol
brutus
rowan
eironn
thoran
daimon
yep, don't worry about it too much. just don't focus on shemira, and level up daimon as much as possible. early game you want one solid carry to be around 20 levels higher than everyone else. if you want show me your wishlist and I'll see if there's anything that needs fixing
Daimon die at the start of every fight
Ohh ok awesome, I just copied the wishlist in the beginners photo in the #classic-questions pins
fair enough that one's good
fck I'm stupid try this
thoran
rowan
eironn
brutus
daimon
I don’t need to change anything then right?
yep

