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@humble apex I am trying that but Thoran NEVER uses his ult
Is there ever a point in the game where you have too much fodder?
The second lineup? Do you have call on kelthur and thoran?
Like the nemora boss where shem is mvp there is not any place where you will truly used her instead of this boss

Someone to help me ?
any help?
Anyway to beat this? Getting insta wrecked U_U
Help pls idk what to do anymore
Hi, I can't do the stage 6-28 and don't know what to do
help please
Can you please tell me some advise ?
thanks :))
imo take rowans sig +30 albedo then ainz for +20 daimon lyca pippa
Put izold in front instead of gwyneth
Need help pls i can't find the good team and lineup
Pls help I can merc too
can someone tell me the best team i can build and who to fuse optimally
Hi there,
In really early game it doesn't really matter. But after you will need to build a team around a carry. I see you already have a few copies of gwyneth, I highly recommand her before chapiter 35 : Really strong and fun to play with. After that, since you are already building skriath, you can build eironn (one of the strongest carry in early game, and still relevant mid to end game).
Hope this help 🙂
Yeah thanks for the advice
Help 😫
Help pls
Any way I can beat this?
Wanting to build a team for daimon need a good second team. Any advice?
How do I beat this? My Daimon gets CC’d to death
Been stuck for days
what you need to do
is pull those enemies in, i'd recommend eironn with the lyca and daimon
Uhh you- have a 5 star Shem at stage 22 okay umm anyway- front: lucious and Lyca back lorsan Shem and saf
k, btw the shem is because I watched a volkin games video and he said to focus on one hero. and I choose shem cause she was beast early and could get her easy from lab store
but what he didn't mention is that is bites you in the ass now cause everything else is low level
It bites mostly because that's a shitton of wasted resources on a trash hero.
I mean she’s a good dim fodder lol
yea that's true
Idk why but estrilda and tasi are the worst things every to happen
can't do anything shem just gets banished till it's 1v5 then she can only take 1 or 2 kills
I’m in the same boat too :/ but with daimon
out of curiosity, why do you have some random heros at level 2
Daily quest stuffs
try to use nara vs tasi, sometimes it works
oh true
what about front row tasi
Any suggestions? I’m not exactly great with thoran cheese
I did it you bloody legend
Could anyone please help me with this
What’s the proper formation for this
go lucius 1 shem 2 gwyn 3 rowan 4 Damion 5
Didnt work unfortunately
try feral instead of gwyn
Still didnt work
try those 2 formations again but swap lucius and shem around
That worked thanks
anytime
oh I forgot that you could drag him i've been playing with him front top this whole time
???
I just started chapter 16, what’s the best team I could use
Grezhul daimon merlin and rowan, then depends on the stage
Maybe lyca or ferael, depends on the stage
Can anyone help me out on this stage?
Okay thx
Oden isn't exactly a frontline hero. Go place rowan there instead. Also daimon kinda eh before he is +20. You can try nara to drag the isabella out. I assume the silvina is trying to attack your oden over your rowan. Try to bait silvina to attack rowan rather than oden.
Can anyone tell me the best possible formation I can make with what I have?
who should i have rosa follow?
Thanks for the advice, I was able yo beat the stage by using brutus
shem
Is that possible for me ?
Can someone help me please Im stuck here
any possibility with rosa being changed she dies really easy
try isabella or gwyn
I was able to pass that stage, but now I am stuck on this one, I tried unequipping all rowans gear, so now silvina targets him, but I still can't get my lineup righr
Rowan operates ok enuf at the frontline. Tbh whos doing more damage, oden or daimon? Maybe replace one of them for nara or tasi
Tbh more people need to place rowan frontline, u don't need his health potions cart hitting everyone heh hooh
Help pls?
send screenie of your pool
need help too pls
try lucius 1, thoran or izold 2, daimon 3, rowan 4, feral 5
youll need to put izold or thoran on the crystal @turbid minnow
Frontline insta dies
ok, try lucuis 1, rowan 2, feral or lyca 3, mireal 4, morrow 5
Anyone got any clue? Ive been stuck here for quite a while now
Sometimes daimon carries, sometime oden does, but I feel they are both essential in my team
Usually they are the last 2 alive and clean things up with rowan
The other 2 I use are generally enablers or cc control or something
sometime what i do is use lucius brutus thoran and another tank to take heaps of damage while shem builds energy for ult
Any assistance with 2nd stage of 34-32
any help?
Thats not working
idk then, i passed that level cause i had a 5 star shem
Gwyn arthur rosa rowan lyca for one team. Saurus talene lorsan pippa ferael for second battle? @stiff loom. Thats all i can really think of
Is it good?
Go get a merc saurus instead. And maybe try to throw in rosa instead of daimon to follow saurus
mehira elite is fine though maybe sub raku out in ferael,tasi,lyca if not enough dmg merc +30 albedo
but they are absolutely not up
Need some help on those fight
@lost cobalt no if you don't used Mirael Who's the best carry until lvl 160
So Mirael instead of who? Wukong?
@lost cobalt not for now wukong is one of the only hero you have to be in front i think more like Eironn
Oh I was focusing on Eironn. Okay thank you
@lost cobalt and put mirael in middle or else she will do nothing
You can used Rowan behind wukong and talene behind grez
Even if i don't rlly like grez in early he tank nothing
Tried this one?
Rowan
-- Daimon
Lyca
-- Brutus
Fereal
stuck on this lvl. can someone suggest what formation i should use or what heroes
@spare robin i don't think my Daimon tank in front but still can try
Rowan not being at +30 might be a bigger issue
@neat hill used mirael in middle up wukong lvl 100
@spare robin it could but he die even before Daimon
He's SI 27
In general though, KT progress is super slow, and a lot of the comps you face there are outright sadistic, don't forget to use mercenaries to help you if you must
maybe put thoran at eironn place so when kelthur swap him in he will stun enemy backline ?
@spare robin already used them i have the boost that give 2 merc by week
is wukong better than shemira?
@neat hill swap with hogan
before lvl 100: yes
@rigid imp i'll try that
swap what
@viral dock This might also work
Daimon
--Rowan
Brutus
--Thoran
Lyca
@neat hill hogan and wukong @rigid imp and thanks it work
then which supports?
Wukong hendrick in front shem mirael Merlin in back it's better
And max wukong and mirael lvl 100 the team 80 and after that focus on Mirael to lvl 160
what supports should i use?
@spare robin i could used Rowan in middle and Brutus in front of Daimon then ?
@neat hill i told you the team look
who is hendrick?
@neat hill the one with 2 shield
hendrick instead of hogan?
Help pls Fawkes keeps locking Daimon
Team gets wiped
Daimom comes and dies even after some cc from Morrow
@neat hill yes do the team i told you
is there anything i can swap out with merlin bcause hes has liited time
@neat hill show your full box then
You could go for ferael i think
ok..
He's a good dps and can work as a supp carry he got a fear that make 2 enemies lost energie for there ult
ok
how can i get more wu kongs? cause i maxed him out
@spare robin i try with those heroes in differents lineup but it don't seem to work Daimon can't stack is first ult
@neat hill you don't he's only used in early until lvl 100 as the maine carry then mirael take the job to lvl 160
From event chest in future or buying from labyrinth store (extremely not recommend)
ok is shemira good for late game?
@neat hill no shem is only used in 1 Twisted Realm
No, she isn't good enough
dang it didnt work
What didn't work ? Your team ?
worked 3rd time
btw i have lvl 100 kong, 67 shemira and 61 everyone else
@neat hill don't do that when you have wukong lvl 100 just focus mirael until she's lvl capped and need your other hero to lvl up to get her lvl up
tysm that worked better
Your team should be Wukong and Mirael lvl 100 the other lvl 60 after that you need to get mirael to lvl 120 if she is E+ the game will asked you to get your team lvl 80 then take them to that lvl and go for the lvl 120 on mirael
And you do the same up until mirael is leg+ lvl 160
@neat hill know you need to get the food to have Mirael leg and leg+ you need for that 2 hero E+ as food like hogan and 1 Mirael E+ you need to get her leg+
Don't used a Mirael E+ to get her leg only for leg+
thats confusing do i just use other heroes to get mirael maxed?
@neat hill not any hero to rank up a hero you need food hero Who are blu
Any suggestions on line up?
what heroes then?
ok
Only them and you still need a copie of the same hero you want to rank up to get him leg+ like when you have Mirael leg you will need a Mirael E+ to get her leg+
Just found Daimon, should I swap wukong?
definitely
this isnt working
@lost cobalt swap grez then wukong could still work a Little longer
@neat hill mirael in middle back
oh ok
Wukong is great pre lvl 100, then he falls down a lot, daimon is a machine, who carries everyone on his back
@wraith jungle ye but grez is not better than wukong in early it's better to keep wukong a Little more than grez Who can't even survive 5 sec and not gonna carry a lot in early
Grez is legendary and wukong is elite, I'm pretty sure he survives longer, but what works for him better I guess
which hero should i use my artifact on (duras grace)?
@lost cobalt well you could but i don't think yet Erionn Daimon is a op duo but you will need more Daimon for that
Okay so I'll save that for later and just switch grez
@neat hill used it on Mirael for now she will survive a Little more
@lost cobalt a team that work good with Eironn Daimon is something like that
Eironn grab the enemies Rowan buff the stats of Daimon Daimon stack is ult fcking fast and fera fear the enemies to make them not used her ult and that make Daimon survive longer
Am stuck here
@viral dock Sorry, had to go offline a bit, were you able to make it work? Daimon teams can be really retry-spammy sometimes
And you might be pushing that particular stage at a bit of a limit, small margins can make a big difference; a gear upgrade here, an extra few SI levels there, etc
@viral dock no it's still doesn't work
well daimon is full T1 and weapon T2 im waiting to get more T2 stone for his gear
What would be a good team to beat this?
Any reliable tier list out there for newbie?
None, but follow the pinned guides from #classic-questions
might try this
daimon
brutus
eironn
thoran
nara
You need nara to pull mehira
You need to invest into another carry fast
Just got Daimon
Hey so the top row is my current line-up, I can not for the life of me pass 12-8
Invest in Shemira
Get shemira to L+ so you can feed her to daimon.
This is my formation I'm using right now, and I'm looking for tips going into chapters 21+. I've considered swapping out Daimon for Hodgkin, but I think I already know the answer to that question.
Stop inviting in shemira shes trash
What would you rather have me use then?
Daimon is way better
I already have him on the team
I'm trying to get more heroes to feed him with but rn-jesus hates me
U got ferael ?
my current team is grezhul, thoran, kren, rowan & safiya
wondering if i should switch out grezhul with daimon
These are all the Maulers I currently have since I barely pull any Maulers, would you recommend to Ascend Brutus to Mythic or should I save the L+ fodder (Saveas) for another Mauler?
Imo grez is just a meat shield atm for you
so what should i do :/
Just slap grez in front line and try daimon back row
who do i replace
Don’t take my word for it though :/
Tentative kren..
ok thx
This is my hero amount, and the area I'm stuck in..can you guys help?
No need to make brutus higher just save everything, and wait Until you have more copies of better heroes, like 1st one in 2nd row or 3rd in 1st row
yes I know mirael is supposed to be in the middle I wanted to try something since silvina always went for my shemira
Silvina always goes for lowest hp mage
I know
wrong , sry, lowest defence
so, thoran-1 daimon- 2 mirael-3 rowan-4, morrow -5, try this, check mirael need to have the lowest def, if it doesn't work, try brutus instead of thoran, or change rowan with daimon places
@pale kettle
yeah I tried that and it worked
Nice, gl with next ones
silvina is super annoying cuz she always target with this order:
mage>tank>ranger
then she target the enemy with lowest defense within that order so even if you have a mage that have higher defense than your tank she still attack your mage first
fuk
can't cheese silvina cuz she smark 
are there some example comps for guild trial for each enemy comp ?
Silvina is actually Mis-translated if I’m not mistaken. So it’s not mage > tank > Ranger, she targets Int heroes first.
So you can have no Int heroes on your team, and if you have an E brutus as your lowest defense, she will target him first.
New player here, hoping to get some advice. My current lineup is daimon, thoran, rowan, saurus, lyca. Soon will be able to pick between Elijah and Talene and wondering who would compliment my team best? Also If pick Elijah I can get to elite+ cuz I can get another copy from the new Rowan shop. Any advice would be very much appreciated 😊
Hello @inner plover,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
any ideas on how to win that fight?
Can someone help me in this fight i can take Morrow for 3 days but i still don't know what to do i think im lvl capped to much
try the site.
It doesn’t work. No pictures load.
thoran grez daimon rowan arden works decently
save. no reason to rush any mythics until rc160.
did you tap "show all"
Yes
try from a different device.
mortaz titus nakakuru wukong orthos ezizh ezio zolrath talene kazhard athalia all the lb, all the mauler beside chicken tidus safya, all the wilders bs eironn and all the gb is what i can use
Any help with this? Gb people attached
Is it possible for me to clear chapter 24 with what I have , and can someone tell me the artifacts I should be using on who, thank you
still no use after 15 tries
How do get this chest
Help pls
What is your folder situation? How many gb folders do you have
@keen bluff what a folder ?
Like the blue level hero’s
Oh fodder
Well kinda low i just got a leg fodder Who will be leg+ very soon for Thoran A
@keen bluff yes i have enough for him and izold
Do that when you can
I want but it's hard to get more fodder heroes in gb even with the faction tower i can't win anymore
would be awsome if someone could help me with a nice setup with these heroes to help me from chapter 13 and on 😄
dont go making heroes L if you cant make them L+, from your current heroes Shemira should be the one highest level, no Hogan, if you are lacking dust, reset Hogan then level Shemira
so its fine if they are low level then? bc the new hero is time based and i wont have the 5 for crystal then
so what level should i put hogan at max then?
i am getting lucretia to ascended today, and she has a full t3 gear set and 9 furn. how should i fix my third team to actually make it more threatening? rowan stays in second team until i can get ezio 9 furn then i can possibly throw rowan into 3rd team
How do i defeat this one
I am stuck on this stage and I tried many many different formations, but nothing is working. My support characters are too underleveled, they die right away. What should I do? I have done everything I can to get gems/rolls like Peaks of Time and King's Tower. Only thing I can do is ascend my Silas to L+, but I dont think it would help that much. I know I shouldn't have leveled Lucius to L without being able to L+. But I don't think that's the issue rn.
Here are my heroes
@viral dock im stuck again
You will have to wait and keep leveling mirael she will be better after lvl 120
ok
I tried all combos nothings working need help
Drop shemira for ferael, put daimon backline. Put dodge tanks and agi heroes with good gear in front of eironn.
Thanks that worked if i dropped rowan
Need help with 23-60
Hi! Just started playing few days ago, and thinking on my lineup, since there is quest to have 5 lvl 40 heroes.
This is what i'm thinking for now, is it alright?
Could anyone help me stuck on this one
tysm
How do I beat this? If I can’t beat it with my team, who should I merc to do it?
What’s a good line up?
Is there any way i can improve my challenger tourney comps? Anything to replace or change? *Mainly asking so i can have an outside source see if i have any weakness
id merc a 9/9 grez for anti mage either eye,barricade,waistband artifact if not beefy izold rng it
Is this comp good? I just got albedo and now this lineup is making progress but I can't tell if it's good.
Which one should I pick? I’m a first week playing newb with wukong as main dps at lvl 80
save it
Not sure how to beat this would appreciate any help
Hello ! My answer may be a bit off ... but I use a general purpose team which allows me to easily climb against much much stronger pve teams. my main damage dealer is Daïmon, followed by Rosalyne to buff him and give him lot of ultimate (so strong!!!) then I got a second tank (Lucius is good but you can go with whatever stays alive) and then two other support/buffer (rowan is very strong even low level)
all my characters are level 160ish (or lower) and my team strength is around 400k while I can beat team with power of 600k and more.
Now sure how you have 400k strength, mine are all 160 and I have just over 300
u only have fodders maxed out, maybe if you have enough copies of daimon to reach mythic ur power will increase significantly, including the gears, si, artifacts, elder tree & unions
need help on this one, thanks
Sorry but you're spreading your fodder and investing levels into too many heros
Some tips for this stage?
You only need to level 5 heros total. As for carry you seem to be having bad rng so I'd make sure your wishlist is accurate
Ok thanks
@tidal pumice
for now you can prob do
nara
rowan
mirael
hogan
fereal
@strange totem post each faction cause I see alot of unused fodder
need also help here thanks
@strange totem when it comes to rare+ you dont need copies of the same hero so I would go about making elites with your wilder's and make Arden into legendary+, I can give step by step if need be but it will get you to more legendary based heros that will be helpful later on when upgrading another hero
Which ones should I reset
@tidal pumice saurus and wukong, and for now remove raku from crystal and level him up to 120 then put what you can into shemira
@tidal pumice this is your goal until you are back on track
Ok
@fiery wing I would work on grez signature and put him in front of daimon
I'll reset Wu Kong and Saurus and raku for now and put the resources into shemira for now thanks for the tips and the 160 letter thing it will help me out a lot thank you
There is a full guide in #classic-questions that you can download @tidal pumice
i kinda want to work on grez si but the problem is im saving it for rowan's SI whats an optimal investment for grez?
Ideally you want to max him out both signature and furniture but I just recently began building him so I have no hard information other than you need a better stall for daimon
You can try swap out silas for nara
kinda bummer my rowan still at e+
I would probably go with
Ferael
thoran
Nara
Grez
Daimon
Estrilda will only do an initial knockback but hogan will stun more often so best to get daimon away from him
oh wait it suprisingly work daimon gone beastmode again
Thanks, my plan for now is to level 5x fodder to l+, namely mirael, arden, hogan, saveas and silvina
yesss thats right and besides all those fodders are useful in campaign and some early stages of the faction tower
please help me
i can not get pass this stage no matter what i do. Anyone have any idea what i could do?
can i see your box?
not great. havent played for long. @fiery wing
get a nara
you could try uhm
fereal
lyca
daimon
brutus
shem
Can someone helped me i can't find a better team to go finished this lvl but it don't work
ill try it out or just have to use someones nara
i rather just borrow daimon tho
the strategy there is too have enough time to kill isabella before she ults
up
flora
Hello im stuck her
Who should I use ?
What's my best comp available?
@lost cobalt you can switch rowan with daimon
Lyca? Not usefull here?
Where is lyca ?
Hard stuck on this stage.. Any ideas?
Any ideas what could help? I'm struggling so much here...
Swap shemira with Prince and daimon with merlin maybe that works
what lineup should i use? @ me
@grand heron bruv firstly, stop making L hero's. Use daimon mirael, brutus rowan maybe silas/lyca depends on enemies. Read the pins at #classic-questions
Help???
Any clue what i could do?
Any help?
maybe try to be nice
TY! I had to use a friends Joker for that one but your line up suggestion got me through the fight right after that one! So thank you :)
Day 2 of not being able to do this
put daimon in front of grez will make your team die faster, put him somewhere else like backline
This stage is driving me crazy, any idea ?
Don’t have Zolrath unfortunately
Any idea for this? I just reaaaally wanna reach ch 30 😫 (this is a friends formation that worked but with other hero stats prob)
@rigid imp yeah i've tried daimon everywhere but he still gets melted
Started the game today, who am I supposed to use for campaign? I died at stage 3-36
For the time being thoran and saurus as frontline. Merlin, morrow and shemira in the back. If saurus dies too easily put shemira in front. If you manage try to get lucius via summons. He helps a lot with his shield.
Who should I use for my DPS carry other then wukong? Preferably someone I can level up to 100+
Thanks!
Any way to take out that Lucretia and get the win here?
@civic wasp if you have a Nara to put in front of Isabella it could work
I do not unfortunately
How do this
would try this
Im stuck on chapter 14-11 any help?
I just cant seem to figure out a good lineup rn
@vital knot you need to do it in 2 times if im correct starting top left (1) then (3) then (5)
thats is the first the second i cant remember, but google is your friend 🙂
Need help pls if someone could help me even if im lvl capped hard
whats a good gb lineup?
Thank you ! didnt know all thatr
Heya what was that website again where you can see ppls teams for certain stages
is there a way to reset tier of heroes I've put to legendary or legendary+ ? I've done bad thing using my fodder for nothing 😦
nope
Well, I'm just damn stupid then ^^
made the same mistake before joining this discord lol
Would rlly like some help here
Thanks!
It's pinned in this channel if you ever need it in the future.
Good point, should have checked that first :)
Im beging for help it's have been 3 days im here
Brutus Lyca Daimon Rowan Farael
@worldly apex i did this team a lot of time :(
what gear has your daimon got
@worldly apex
from afkhelper, can try rearranging the formation or swap rowan for eironn
What is a good shemira carry setup?
is shemira your only option for a carry?
I mean I have a lvl 200 shemira and it would be optimal for her to be my carry
you should stop making L tier units and read the beginners guide pinned in #classic-questions , your team mostly depends on the stage tho, something like Brutus Lyca Shem rowan will probably fit most stages
same goes for you about making L tier units and reading the beginners guide, we dont want to see yellow boxes :P
K
Why no yellow boxes?
read tree3s guide pinned in #classic-questions, but you dont want to ascend people to legendary without copies to make them legendary+ since you end up capping the levels you can get, and also wasting the fodder used to ascend them (when it could have been used to ascend something you had more copies of)
@worldly apex ill try thanks
Oh i get it thnx
its not too bad where you are rn, just if you kept doing it, it can really bottleneck you on food, and levels if you havent been making l+ fodders
Oke thnx
Ye i think i just don't have enough gear up
help T-T even when i manage to kill the niru, someone else stills bodies me. this formation is the closest i’ve gotten so far
brutus farael daimon rowan nara/eironn
need to hook or pull the enemy farael
ok ty! i’ll try that
What would be a good lineup with these characters
@worldly apex thanks for the help but i think it's a stuck for at least a week
its fine to stall, just wait to get dust for your rc level
@worldly apex and food for up gear and stone
@worldly apex tysm id been stuck for ages!! <33
no worries!
Someone pls ive been stuck on chapter 14 for so long
there is no single team, lineups will change depending on the stage
@worldly apex is shemira not good?
yeah, she's outclassed by other mages as well as fellow graveborns
Dang, i really thought her ult was good
she's fine until chap 20 ish, generally building daimon is the best choice
K, ill work on that. Im on chapter 18 btw
mh, early game I guess. good luck with rng
How many chapters are there?
43 or 44
What is considered mid game?
uh, it varies a lot, but I consider it chapt 24 to 30
31-36 late game, and 37+ endgame
most players consider mid game to start at early multis, from what i can gather
probably ch35 and 36 as lategame
if mid game start at chapter 31, and endgame starts at 35/36, when does late game start?
yeah i misunderstood what you said, id probably say endgame is 37+ still since 36 is such a big wall
mh, yeah
:(
swap position of brutus and albedo,
I’ve tried that raine kills ainz and if I put ainz bottom estrilda and ferael kill him, am I underleveled? @dull flame
it's cause you don't have a proper team. Ainz needs support that can boost his damage, daimon needs a cc team to let him ramp up. try this
rowan
brutus
ainz
albedo
merlin
Any idea for this ? 🤔
yes, each as unlikely to win as the next
sorry had to quote that, show me your mercs(can't see sig lvl)
does that izold have 3/9?
It’s performing better now I actually get to cast but even if ainz ult crits everyone none of them die I think I wait for upgrades
yeah, try to improve your heroes
Mercs have F ?
like your saurus has 9/9
no problem!
Can someone help me with this?
Don't use Brutus
Any tips? Am really stuck
Try: Hogan, Brutus, Rowan, Mireal, Arden
Hogan gets destroyed way too fast and mirael is stunned by Arden forever 😭
everyone gets 1 shot tho i find value from his 5 second stall, who do you think i should use instead?
Any sort of cc or something. In ainz comp you want to take advance of Albedo's 3f. Tho since you don't have Arthur I don't blame you for using Brutus
Ha got past the other one but stuck again lol plz RNG just give ma a Daimon
Put fereal on the other side. Can't let that healer start up
Nope nothing works just getting completely destroyed everything dies on one shot
Somehow enemies pop like all their ults before me
or daimon behind brutus id run manual on raku just for extra dmg cant really see what was used r1 but this might do
thank you! ❤️❤️❤️
thoughts on joker and queen +30?
.-.
Tbh Rowan isn’t that tanky until later and can you show the rest of your box?
daimon
brutus
rowan
lyca
fereal
Both are underwhelming
I was but chat banned
send help thanks i'm struggling
swap rowan and thoran, then swap oden and daimon
5 messages just got sent at once, holy cow, my computer
gonna try this
you always nara the fereal or saveas
win in the 2nd try
yay!
what is the logic behind that change btw?
thoran taint gets interrupted by estrilda, her run also kills oden, rowan can tank because of his passive @small granite
Any ideas?
Didn’t work everything heals too much
it works but now i'm stuck on this one
dont really need either but id get jokers first its after youve got most the high priority ones out of the way for him it increases normal atks more frequentlylike haste so wouldnt disregard it completely(check mechanics guide for more info) he sees action in ainz comp with ferael often at least for me queen in lucre pull stunlocks works at low investment id skip its just for consistency ig
replace mira with nara, geared up daimon & retry
been stuck forever can someone help me pls
nope, used for fodders, need 2 more hogans/ or 1 angelo to get 5 L fodders, then i can increase RC levels
i mean the chest that has lucious, nara and scrolls?
oh yes, i havennt used any hero chests
hmmm use that chest get a nara
damn those 10 scrolls look nice tho...
10 scrolls can still give you 10 fods so its not worth, whereas when you get a single copy of nara it helps you progress stages since it counters isabella, arden, mirael & healers
anyways whos targeting the enemy silvanna?
none, she goes to larson, then mirael. was thinkinng mirael on 5 since silvina goes to her, but when i put her on 5, she dies immediately after the brutus dies
ohhh so if you removed larson, she will attack mira first then shem? does mira have less hp than shem?
if i remove larson she attacks shem first, mira has more hp since shes my carry
cant remove larson because i need his connection for mirael on eiron pull, gonna try oden instead of eironn
i see then try
nara
lyca
mira
brutus
oden / shem
idea here is to kill isabella before she hits her ult
hm its getting close, gonna keep retrying. thank you
I'd do this:
eironn
lorsan
mereal
lyca
arden
can someone help me???
sure
swap shem and wu kong, try that for a sec
nope
how many times did you retry that?
once but it wasnt as close as my original formation
retry it 10 times and see
nope tried 5 times not even close (niru keeps on bloody healing)
show me rest of heroes
nvm got it evenrually
build raku i beg you
i will eventually
yay
can i add you as friend?
Alright here are my peepos. I've been told to swap shem with ferael but that's all I've been told. Any tips or ideas that might help?
imo save swap, shemira doesnt have very much investment and daimon is already mythic
also i wouldnt +30 estilda, save it for rowan
Got it
+30 estrilda 
Y'know at this point Estrilda is more of a flashy meatshield that really does her damn job well
ok...
add me 124590495 ig
Please read the pins in #classic-questions. Rare heroes (L+) are the easiest to ascend and have significantly higher raw stats than an E+ Ascended type hero and are very good carries for early game.
@frosty agate Do yourself a favor and don't listen to this dude
I agree

I was making a bulleted list of all the things they said wrong 
I wasn't gonna spend 20 minutes on that so gave up before I even started
I don't know whether I can get past this... Athalia keeps killing people off.
inhale
can someone help me with this lvl pls. (can u tell me a good formation for king tower)
what
bruh i just upgraded daimon :l
daimon is good but unless you have enough copy to make him highest lvl otherwise you have to put him in the Rc
Any afk chads wanna give me another idea for who I should run
so should i reset daimon and upgrade mirael
Don't ask me
lvl up both
:l
Any ideas
im stuck help pls
brutus instead of lyca and rowan in the middle instead of silas ?
Already tried
how long can luc survive if you put her in front of brutus?
Lemme see
if she can survive more than 15s i might have another idea
Dies instantly
sadge 
Its the safiya ult. If i get that 9 furniture on luc I can prob win
Reset the fire lady back to 100 and level up shermira and Ferael
Why merc a warek of all people. Merc a kren or use your own.
He dies to gorvo immediately
Retry until he dodges gorvo then
Merc kren again:v
help?
Is there a way for me to beat this without using merc?
Any recommendations?
sriously anyone gonna help me?
What would be a good lineup for pve in terms of my current dps units.
Dependent on stage. But a Rowan frontline with Daimon behind him with some variation for everyone else would probably be what would be done the most (Lyca, Brutus, Safiya, Eironn, Tasi, etc.)
anyone????????????
been waiting for 1hr 15 min...
try to cc the isabella, or assinate her with silvinia, if that doesnt work just wait til you have more units (like nara)
cant beat this been trying for ages
Hello There
I have a Daîmon L+ and a Kelthur L+ (and an Elite Copy) ... should I up my Daïmon Mystic ?
I don't use Kelthur at all (currently) I upped him cause I'm noob and didn't know I should keep fodder
obviously no
my daïmon is like 90% of my dps and allowed me to get to 15-1
I should look at the long term and dont do it, but quick profit is wanting me to do it
( I just need you to tell how stupid I am to do that if I do it so I dont do it xD )
just let him there, you will use him in some stage later
and your daimon can beat up to stage 16 without being M so don't worry
everything will come eventually
Any idea for this one ?
use oden instead of eironn if you have him
And for the other ?
put ferael in the middle, oden bottom and the rest stay the same
might have some luck with oden using his ult on tasi so she doesn't fukt up your team 
Ye but even if he do that Daimon got one shot after the ban after oden ult
I hope one day I'll be able to make strategy just looking at ennemy team, like @rigid imp
that day come sooner than you think 
I hope one day to get my team 240
someone was even more extreme than me, he has about the same power as mine but he already complete ch24 while i'm only at start of 23 
The prob in this fight is that even if Tasi don't ult Estrilda stun Daimon ans since he's the last left he die after the stun
@rigid imp some people asked me how i can be chap 27 when they are chap 22
yeah, tasi banish + estrilda continuously stun + lyca and kaz high dmg cause so much disruption to daimon
Yep i will net to work on this fight
Help pls mirael is getting on my nerves
Rowan, Brutus, Ainz, Ferael, Lyca
Aight ill try
Anything else abt artifacts?
lyca dies instantly so does eironn and the rest is wiped out by mirael
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO HELP ME FOR 2 HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! can someone help me
this is an afk game, have some patience, not many people read these channels/answer low chapter questions, same problem as with tower, you need to cc isabella since she will drain energy from your team
Yeah im trying
The closest i got was with the first lineup you gave me, lucius mirael and warek would die but then morvus and raine would 1 shot everyone of my heroes
wtf is this
I give up
@floral cargo you should try ten times at least, some times you got lucky or ennemy team unlucky
Ive been trying for 35mins straight on x4 speed
Thats like at least 50 matches if not more
what about manually ? to time your ultimate
Well 90% of the time they dont survive long enough
And when they do its just eironn’s ultimate that is triggered the rest is just dead
What do I do? I have read some guides and am afraid that I messed up big time. Is this saveable?
Hi can someone help me for this thx ❤️
thoran tank grez, brutus tank estrilda, rowan in the middle, eironn pull isa, shemira at top
retry a few time to see if eironn can kill or frozen isa or not
you're early, its good you read the guides, its nothing too major, just dont repeat those mistakes and you'll be fine ❤️
Try
Morrow
Rowan
Eironn
Brutus
Lucretia
Which comp would generally work better agaisnt this kind of Flora formations?
Line up?
Thx @warm yew @rigid imp
Usually grez is needed instead of oden
Since your Silas it's not 9/9,grez is rlly needed for dps
Any help ????
@zinc elm u are tok early game man, everything its rng, but try to add lyca also in your team, and put daimon Backline. Wukong with Hogan should be good tanks for a while, lyca is good for haste daimon for dps
@brave oriole Alright ty, will try this way
On it
Hogun died immediately XD
I’ll find a way soon
What team can i do
just use 5 strongest heroes till lvl 100 or 120 if you have elite+ version
after that follow the pins
Can someone help me in one of them if it doesn't work it's not a prob ^^
I'm at a point where I can barely progress through the campaign what should I use to get to chapter 18?
Upgrade only 5 heros and put the rest in ur Crystal
How would I do this with thoran?
😃
Sad
need help bc of this annoying tasi
p.s no i aint running front line nara idk why shes in front lmao
so, just really need to try a lot of variants, I don't see all of your heroes,I assume Eironn is not a choice or this,
Start with simple 1-brutus 2-daimon 3-merlin 4-lyca 5-grezhul
Do you have mortas? If you have what tier is it?
unlucky on wilders keeps giving me lyca
sub talenes artifact for drape theres some alternatives if max call this one was without make sure estrilda has full gear thoran just weapon and boots get that tank tree up for haste
Oh, you got him, nice, then 1-daimon, 2-grezhul, 3- mortas, 4-lyca, 5 merlin
what about artifacts, what level are they, and what are you using on your heroes?
just weak ass artifacts this is all i got
Help pls on any of those 2 fight not a big prob if it don't work in the end ^^
Lyca in the middle, mortas 3 slot, call on the mortas, chalice of vitality or dura's grace on daimon, try this
you main priority is to make daimon shielded most of the time, to not fall asleep during tasi ult, mortas need to ult on daimon, also he can diminish healing and shielding from lucius, that's why he needs call
where Estrilda goes with that lineup?
@wraith jungle on brutus
you don't want daimon against ira, her poison bleed kills daimon quickly
my team on that is:
ferael
brutus
oden
thoran
daimon
took me about ~200 try ?
the biggest problem is that thane
he swoop all your team even daimon if daimon don't have shield 
that's why you kill him before he ults...
@rigid imp it's better to fight thane and athalia
Soooo any idea of what i could do on my 2 fight ?
which fight?
almost forgot pippa haha its important to get one +20 not only sees use in thoran cheese but other teams aswell merc one to toss thoran with immunity
@dull flame those one
second fight swap daimon and oden
@dull flame so oden behind Rowan ?
i did that with 10 tries thanks
ye
Oden got one shot before Rowan he can't ult
oden doesn't need to ult, he's there to lift some pressure off of daimon
the only thing he do is the portal
yes, and that's all he needs to do
then why rowan for oden ?
which way does estrilda run, through rowan or brutus
brutus
hm
Stuck on 26-48, help please
I need a good campaign team please
👀
daimon with support like thoran and rowan
So I put daimon with thoran and Rowan in the same team?
Okay what about the last 2?
really busy rn, but just put daimon behind arthur, with cc and support
doesn't matter too much at your stage, just throw the highest leveled ones together
Oki ty
thanks for the help guys i pushed 10 & gonna sleep for tomorrow i'm currently 22-51
push to chap 25 and rest you get t2 stones
thats my next goal but its kinda hard bc i'm lacking enough support to stack daimon stats & currently lacking rowan copies he is only E+ but i'll try my best
daimon scales with enemy, so that makes it easier
Anyone have any tips? Everyone else just gets melted and then daimon dies 1v5 (in the best scenario)
Help, I’ve been stuck and can’t seem to get past it
Stuck help pls
Help this mehira is annoying
Any advice for a campaign lineup? I'm stuck on 6-16
just level ur heros up
I’m mega stuck. I’m also on lvl cap so I can’t do much.
Does level increase at M+ or only when they get A does the level go up
^^ been stuck for about 4 days
Cecilia is now Ascended
never put daimon frontline if there's stun or poison
Okay, where do I move him?
daimon
thoran
silas
brutus
nara
Okay thank you
dm me if you need help, i don't check this often
It worked!! Thank you!! And I will
no problem!
Unless I run Oden here my thoran attacks Rosa & dies before he can ult, no problem with the other fights but this one...
you have call 5*?
Yep
overlevelled af but might work
take out theowyn and oden, give thoran and kalthur call
Finally got it thanks 😊
np
i’m so close T-T
Help
which one do you recommend me getting?
Show your box
Nvm
Someone can helped me here pls ?
O
Help
swap positiom of lyca and brutus, and fereal and daimon
replace belinda with rosaline and make her follow shemira
i replaced shemira with rosa and made her follow the spear guy and won 😅
shemira dies often
What about this one
yea shemira dies
2 shot 😩
yooo i won
belinda is bassically spamming her super
@dull flame it don't work because of Tasi stun
Any suggestions on team 3? It’s a copied comp and I win the other 4 fights.
It's a thoran team, make sure you're the same level deficit or higher.
idk, help 
Rowan Hendrik Rosa Gwen (Shroud) and Morrow
The team I copied was 380 and is an in-game friend. So I can either use their 3F Ezizh or 3F Brutus but neither seems to work
a tip, don't copy without thinking it through
Oden was wearing the wrong artifact😑
I was deleted
swap position of lucius and thoran
which is better?
second, you want mereal to hit everyone, but get daimon, he best
yeah i rlly want daimon
stuck on this lvl dont knlw what to do
take hendrik out for rowan
tysm but just beat it with a friends formation
mirael
-> hogan
rowan
-> wukong
morrow
is that a good formation?
it isnt? i beat a boss fight with that
just because it works once doesn't mean it's good
so should i go back to my original formtaion and swap out hendrik with rowan?
first thing, mirael and hogan are fodder, so useless, wu kong is a celestial, harder to get copies of him, and he doesn't work in campaign, morrow is a trial, rowan is the only good one but he's a support not dps
show me your wishlist, I'll see if ya need any changes
ik mirael and hogan are fodder but theyre good early game and i wont be using wu kong for very much longer
my wishlist is the same as the guide
hm, ok
just build everyone in graveborn, they work well together and are good for everything
ive only got 4 decent graveborn heroes
teams of 5....
yeah...
This any good?
no albedo...but everything else yes, just get albedo to +30
dont have albedo and i dont want to garrison her sadly
I'm retrying for a stage, and have to manual ults, so not best advice right now
ainz cannot work without albedo....
well, here's the thing, he needs more support. You asked if the team comp was good, my reply is no. You get outclassed everwhere because you don't have albedo. Her +30 provides a 45% damage increase and defense increase, nothing can match that. Silas +30 can do some dps increase, but you don't have that either. Rowan is also not +30, so ainz can't ult as fast as someone who has the +30. Lucius is one of the worst tanks after early game, using him is not going to benefit you.
any good lineups with these characters? I would like to build what Kong and Belinda we Kong mainly as tank and partial damage, this is what I’m running now
Help?
i would highly ask you to reconsider resetting your account as you have something like 10legendary heroes and no way to take them to legendary+ effectively level capping you. IF you insist on continuing however, you can make a lineup with maybe theowyn instead of cecelia but your heroes look good
K
I don’t think ima reset as I’ve been playing for a few months and this will be hard to get back
what does ainz comp with merlin look like?
I run for fun in the arena Arthur Albedo Ainz Merlin Prince. Next person down is about half my power though
do y’all think it’s possible to beat this lvl with my current champs? cause i’ve been using afk helper too and i’m still stuck T-T
i beat it at a lower level than you did and with arguably worse heroes. The thing I used was lorsan as he is vital for you to beat this. Go on afk helper and look up the formation that was used and it will save you. I think i tried the level 900+ times though until rng worked in my favor
yes id try this may need to turn auto off manual it timing to cancel safiya nuke would swap pop for lyca
ohh ok ok ty! i’ll try that
my lyca keeps dying before safiya even gets her ult off xd thx anyway tho!
reccomended team for arena of heroes and labrynth pls (out of these)
mirial, rowan, merlin, hogan, new lightbearer for now
What's a good lineup for me? Very early-game, haha.
I’m stuck
Any help????
oden
thoran
daimon
lyca
merlin
Ight
lvl up heroes should make it easier
Can you tell me best daimon comp? With sig required?
U can add Arthur into account I'll be getting hin in two days
Tasi banishes thane btw
Stap making legendary tiers plsi just need cause stats I need
There is no shortcut every heroes has to become legendary before mythic then ascended
I need someone to help me level up the right heroes
Ik I just think it’s more worth it to make it l+ also fodder issues
Can anyone help
iirc my team on that was
ferael
thoran
oden
brutus
daimon
about 15 retries
Thanks got it on my fifth attempt
I need help with a lineup to push through campaign I’m not stuck at all but just want to know what I can build to push easily later
I’m stuck help me
Put tasi on front maybe 
unless you're lvl capped then my only advise is raise heroes lvl, that's the easiest way
I’m lacking essence
been stuck on this lvl dont know what to do
Do you not have a wishlist
do you already have the chest with the nara and 10 scrolls?
who is nara?
@rigid imp heey whats ur go to team in c23 lmao i'm stuck st stage 2 with tasi + thane
if you dont have her get her asap
how?
most of the time its
ferael
thoran
oden
brutus
daimon
i change tank position when facing different enemy and use rowan instead of oden for some stage where enemy shouldn't be teleported
with easy enemy team (they usually gather at 1 spot) i used:
ferael
brutus
eironn
thoran
daimon
that 23-2 i think i used my base team with rowan replaced oden
can change thoran and brutus position so thoran can stun thane in front of daimon too
Bruh
just summon.. put her in ur wishlist because i can't see any hero that can counter isabella rather than gwyn but she needs to kill isabela before she kills u
what chest were u talking about tho?
yeah thane+tasi still require lots of retries so be brave 
the one where you can pick either lucious, nara, 10 scrolls & some heroes
when do i get that?
the chest from epic hero counting event, you have it when you start the game
the event where you get brutus skin at 150 elite heroes obtained
hmmm i really need that leveling because its hard now with level 200 & 160 its like pure rng
yeah its really pure rng
i dont have that and i wasnt in that
i use my team at 160 and lvl 200 daimon cuz i know someone use it to pass stage 24 but its super extreme so its not recommended
theres no something like that in events? you should see that if ur a new player
can you show me your event page ?
no it just days fruits of summer, labrynth of limbo and the big comeback
an image is better tho
daimon and shemira manage to get their ults of but neither of them can survive long enough do any real damage
I cant seem to be capable of dealing with their rowan he always survivies
if this chapter is without tasi c23 would be a sweep ngl its just thus banishing teleportation mf just annoying, hmmm i should wait until gb day hoping for an izold because i only need one copy of him and a food
sad, seem like you don't have it
how many days are u playing?
this is my 6th
look if you are newbie like a fresh account u should see this
well i played a long time ago then reinstalled
ohhh thats whyyy, yea you really dont have that
damn it
try to create a new one you should see that
What's wrong ?
yeah it shows
told ya, but yea the idea on the stage is too kill isabela before she ults my best bet is to get a nara
yeah she rlly annoying
you can switch you wishlist to get 1 nara then switch back to old wishlist, nara work well even at E
also apply to brutus too
ok
Can someone help me beat em ?
use raku instead of that spinning guy whoever i don't remember his name
Kk
Got it ty
Idk lol im dum
Struggling on this stage, any suggestions
Help please and with artifacts if possible
Hi can someone help me for this thx ❤️
@unborn tree
Brutus bedo
Fera lyca ainz
Or
Brutus bedo
Lyca tasi ainz
@normal stratus
Berutus rowan
Eiron thoran/ferael shemira
@vagrant ibex albedo is linked to Brutus?
Any idea how t beat this? Stuck for quite a few days now 😦
@unborn tree
Lyca bedo
Tasi fera ainz
@zinc elm hogan daimon lyca tasi grandpa root
I still keep can't win
With box now 🙂 any ideas? I have many hero’s but only E+
@placid vapor
Rowan brutus
Dumbledore gwynt saurus
Or
Rowan brutus
Shem nara saurus/lyca
Ill try ! Thanks !!
@unborn tree somehow you need brutus to stay bit longer cuz of ainz
I just loaned a Brutus , I'm playing around but still losing, aiz ult isn't doing enough damage
do u not have an e brutus?
Or try with shem as damage dealer
Bedo lyca tasi rowan shem ... playin with cc might help
They get Insta wrecked I might be too low :(?
@fierce wagon
Eiron lucius
Shem/belinda dumbledore tasi/estrilda
@placid vapor nope .. if your problem is ferael tey to pull him with nara/eiron and use saurus only as damage dealer
Okay, I will keep trying, Saurus does not get to kill anything before he dies so im thinking there
Yeh it won't work though I think im too low level
Try
saurus rowan
Lyca nara/eiron dumbledore
Or saurus rowan
Lyca dumbledore gwynth(stun)
On it, thanks !
@fierce wagon nah my 2nd acc reach map 30 with 240 daimon
Damn ig i just gotta keep trying then
Eiron energy art might be help
Yeh idk ilive tried for an hour and a half so many combinations I've had no successful runs
are relics ok ?
Im not sure how u fukin did it but this shit is impossible
whats a good c20-c30 daimon comp?
I keep getting time stalled
i can beat it with lvl 200 daimon and the rest at 160 so it should be easy to you
my team was
ferael
brutus
eironn
thoran
daimon

