#lineup-help
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He apparently still has a boat load of fodder tho 😳
Hey I been stuck on this stage for a bit I have tried two different teams and moving them around with
Silas
— lyca
Rowan
— daimon
Oden
And also
Rosa
— Brutus
Rowan
— daimon
Oden/lyca
Try to Replace Oden with Nara in the first team
Alrightttt I will try it
It worked thank you
Okay what if I told you I don’t have a Nara-
You're given a chest with her as one of the alternatives fairly early on, do you by any chance still have that one?
I don’t have
If not, add her to your graveborn wishlist and keep her there until you pull one copy, she's excellent at countering single super hard-hitting units like Isabella, even at just E
You can try using Eironn instead, that might work but it's far less reliable
Alrightttt and yaaa she been on my wishlist since start of the game and still haven’t pulled one 😔
I can try eironn
It worked thanks :0 but I will still try and pull a nara
Nice! Yeah Nara is more reliable at it, she hooks in and locks down exactly the one unit you want to scoop up and focus fire down, while Eironn vacuums up to three of them at a time without applying much crowdcontrol on them. Can still work because you haul them into your team where they'll more easily be targeted, but can take a bit more luck, and won't work against all lineups
Nara is my fav char so far, she is unbelievably cool with that kicks while opponent is dropped down to the ground 😅
Try rowan middleback and thoran facing estrilda instead of daimon
Or you can become my friend and view the team I used to beat that stage my id:131293035
When enemy having both estrilda and Isabella in their team you will struggle a lot
Hi friends, could you help with heroes who put?
Ok
Sent
Help please
lmao same enemies
Finally!
ok need help now here.. nara cant stall the isabella due to grez shield unable to stacked up daimon enough to burst
Try Daimon in the middle
nope nothing
any suggestion is appreciated!
still need help in this thanks
I think you are a bit level capped right there
Oh wait nvm
That lil button hid a number
i still think daimon can 1 v 5 this but the prob is he cant stacked up enough including the shield coming from grez and cc from estralia so annoying not to mention the hypo mages shreds the backline
I do think you can do it
Just getting Isabella dead is the main thing, maybe focus on the pull with daimon killing her?
any ideas on that one? ( i just put 5 heros in)
Deutscher kamerad
wilkommen im reich
Lmao
¨xd
halp
the grez shield onto isabella is really annoying is there a better lineup than this one? or should i pray that the rng favors me
try going full faction bonus
Isabella knocks out my entire team in seconds, I can’t get mirael to proc because of her steal either
Do you have Nara? She's a great counter to teams with Isabella
Unfortunately not
You get a chest relatively early on that lets you pick a copy of her, keep an eye out for that one if you haven't already opened it for any of the others
I see you've got a Kelthur, he might be able to do the same as Nara with a bit of luck, swapping positions lets Mirael focus her down faster hopefully, even though there won't be any extra CC
Hard to give any other suggestions without seeing your entire roster
Hm. Yeah give Kelthur a try, you don't have a lot more to work with yet I think. Nothing that lets you force focus her down
Who should i use for my arena team
Earlygame pvp is largely about just going with whatever you have that's the strongest lineup, you don't have a lot to work with as far as the big pvp synergies goes. Daimon, Oden, Tasi, Rowan, Fereal looks like a good start to me
PoP and Lyca are probably going to work well as well
Early game
disregard the enemies.. is my lineup good against wrizz? or replacing rowan with cecillia or smth will work better
Warek is better than both Cecilia and Rowan I imagine. You can take out Raine as well, she needs her 3F before she does anything useful. Mortas would be a great replacement if you have him
Can put blade on rosaline as well if you can
i dont have mortas atm getting him on the celehypo chest, warek is just level 1 not on rc
he have none, his lineup mostly use to buff the merc saurus
E Warek is fine, he doesn't need more than that. Does need levels and some gear to survive a bit though, so you'll need him to be on the RC ofcourse
Do you have Nara? Putting her on the opposite slot to Isabella will probably help a lot
i'll put him once i unlocked the next slot its full atm
Is this a good lineup?( I think it's a mess
)
hey i complete that stage with this, about 15-20 retry for daimon to steal exact enemy stats 
Take out Raine, she's pretty much useless at that stage
she the gb im missing a lot 
is ur fereal e only?
Dude u have an eironn???
eh no, he's e+
ye
then oofs mine only e i put him crystal once he is e+
It's ok, but a bit of a mixed potato. Adding Rowan instead of Silas and going for a full burst style might be better than trying to sustain
He does the job lmaoooo
Eironn can sometimes work in place of Nara yeah. Not quite as effective, but worth a try
I don't have a nara
nah i put him there for the initial stun and the -energy so e or e+ doesn't matter, he die in like 3-4s 
I always only use an eironn plus daimon
hmm i'll try that thanks
I tried him eariler didnt seemed to work even after sucking in
well will try again
what should be my lineup witg Eironn ?
Can u show the comp?
Can someone help me on this stage please?
i'll put lyca & fereal tomorrow at the rc i removed luci and raine just now so yea i'll tell u about it if it works thanks
Help
a sec lemme login rq
if you have brutus use him instead rowan, 140 rowan can't really tank yet, at 141 he's much better
Kk
Haven’t finished ch 14 yet
I tried, but I doesn't work, what about the placement of other heroes?
Need Direction Help, I got super lucky with daimon copies. What GB do i go next and do i replace daimon on wishlist?
what artifact did u put on daimon?
Help me with this then, 4 more stages to do
grace, i tried eye but its kinda useless against mage and nara use call so she can knockdown isa faster
aight gonna use cecillia first as a replacement until next unlock she did very well against wrizz & soren too
Box
Honestly you could probably get to at least chapter 15 with these heroes
Yeah, they are pretty strong, but my placement is really bad
Any tips?
I am bad at that myself do you have a Brutus tho?
No 🥲
here
You don't actually have an tank
I could put my thoran on the crystal ig
Try placing Daimon on Pippa's place
And pippa where
Pippa against a tank
How come
That looks solid
Bruh you got lucky and unlucky with your summons at the same time
You already have the two best healers in the team
Shermira sucking too hard
Pippa is not as good as silas
Ok, thanks guys 😊
ohhh i forgot he has silas 🤦♂️
You got a lil bit of a level problem there
try
oden
rowan
nara
daimon
silas
there
fun fact thats actually volkin's lineup on his f2p account before he got zaph and without the cecillia
But you could work around that have u tried Luc in there?
Interesting fun fact 🤔
Yee need more dust to get 25k for Daimon
Tried Luc in back and front but not much since she always dying before ult
I need help
I see
My silas keeps dying tho, so im just gonna rng it
Go full burst then
Whats that
Just use Rowan as healer
So no silas?
And focus on damage
Silas isn’t too good in some stages
Yeah I mean if there is no chance of him ulting before death
Nara pull and daimon
The problem is, rowan is just not healing fast enough, and the only person who gets to ult is daimon or oden, and by then its too late
Are you in a guild?
Yes, but its not very active
Since it’s a boss stage, try copying people’s formations
It isnt
I tried using a team on afkhelper where they use silas, but I don't know how he stays alive, my guy dies before entering the battke
Yeah same
This is quite the tough stage, but thanks for all the help 👍
Try:
Daimon
Rowan
Oden
Thoran if you have him
Ferael
Ok
For sure, thanks again
silas pretty much useless early game if enemy lvl is too high for him, he die in 1s or so
I need help
I am desperate for help this stage kills my soul
I’m desperate as well
I cant kill the fukin tree
Since ur like double my stage, can you help me?
what happen with that eironn ?
If you want you can add my alt on chapter 32 and see how I did it, I'm pretty sure I had similar heroes
Sure! And my eironn does fine but the enemies are to tanky
Whats your in game name, also I just realised its not a boss stage
That looks like a constant heal stage
Maybe lorsan to link the enemies, idk
i saw him sit there, eat brutus roar and become a dummy for enemy, better put him where he doesn't affect by brutus roar imo
I’m very early game
what stage do you stuck now ?
Oh yeah me too XD
Lmao, try ferael, he can stop ulmus from ulting to infinite and beyond
14-37
Pretty much tasi and tree are the main problems
Wait ein deutscher kamerad
I did that and it didnt work XD
In der tat
That tree has to be a pain
Definitv, nein
This ulmus man
have you tried ferael instead of oden ?
sometime he stun correct enemy and the whole game change
Isabella
niru(or silvina) ,grez and shemira
if they got stun then the game is way different
Try changing thoran and daimon
silvina and niru actually is the worst enemy here, nara can handle isa for a while
And just retry until he eventually focused Isabella
Depends
and shemira silence too, her ult is bad but she is not your main problem before that
Daimon just dies faster in the front
He needs to focus Isabella
It’s the Isabella ultimate that screws me over
That's how I always did it
Exactly so kill her beforehand
Can’t
i think i use eironn this stage, put daimon at thoran place, thoran middleback and eironn bottomback, retry a few time so daimon's stichy can stun grez and isa in 1 skill and then daimon use his ult to bring the win
She never dies
when thoran revive he give a bit more time so daimon have more chance to kill grez and isa
Yes
That's also my comp
This?
Honestly that 175 Daimon you got can do it
No Nara and eironn switch
eh no, eironn bottomback so he can pull both grez and isa for daimon
And thoran and rowan, that's how I did it
Uh I die even quicker
is there anyway of using mercenary more then 2 times a week
Get a tank instead of Nara?
Like who?
Garrison
try lyca instead nara ?
Brutus in front of thoran
when does it unlock ?
with brutus this stage is much much easier but he doesn't have him yet
with brutus my team swoosh 2 chapter from 15 to 17 in like 2 days 
Good one
Actually no eironn just sucks several heroes while Nara focuses
I just used a shemira mercenary on that stage I was stuck, I think I tried atleast 100 different comps
I have no idea take a look
You gotta do what u Gotta do
Fr
you use eironn this stage cuz you don't have brutus and daimon is forcefully have to kill both grez and isa super fast
other stage where you only need to disable isa then nara better
Oml this stage is even worse
U should be able to bash through your chap now
I get violated
Of course it is
14-39 is actually the worst stage, i retry like 80-90 times and for 14-40 its 60
What chap u in btw?
17-16 currently
Show us what you got
My internet is really slow, its loading
Alright
use nara to pull arden, he ruin your team if you dont do so
2 more stages..
yeah, brutus help you kill this enemy really easy except for kaz 
dodge is a huge problem for daimon
Bruh the pinned Wishlist doesn’t have Brutus
You only need him e-L
Still need him tho 😭
Sad
yeah they assume that you get brutus 100% from completing ch14 but its actually really hard to do that without him
Change Rowan and daimon
Change ferael with Rowan
And ferael with eironn
After u finish this chapter u get him 100%
Was the pull done?
you can try either this:
nara
daimon
rowan
thoran
ferael
or this:
nara
rowan
daimon
thoran
ferael
or even this:
nara
lyca
daimon
thoran
ferael
Yes
the problem here is enemy lyca reduce your daimon defense so kaz and ira attack become dangerous, you need to disable both lyca and ira for a moment so daimon can use his shield
i don't know if ferael can start his initial stun or not cuz ira is fast, if he can then you are good, if he can't then your lose chance is like 95%
Hmmm
ogi will have a busy time to play with thoran then proceed to doom your daimon too, lets hope daimon can suck his blook 2 time so ogi die faster
He can’t fear
Anndddd I'm stuck on 13 24
Hahahah Didn't u say you have a 32 alt acc?
if so i think 2 pull is better than ferael here 
That’s boss isn’t it?
I do, but I'm getting the most ass rates on this alt account
Yup, but all the suggested teams are considerably better than mine
Check my team
What about it
Idk you might have it
yeah if you two are friend then you can see the team he use to pass that stage instead of some weirdo corrupted replay
You have a solid team
I'm just gonna mix it up a bit and pray it works
131772145
does any one have returning player code message me please
Bruh one of my friends is a try hard
yeah A 240 +20 daimon can get you pretty far, like ch22-23 or even 24-25
can take u much higher than that, I hit chapter 30 with a 240 daimon and everyone else 220
woah that's op
even with afkhelper ?
Rowan in center
I already try
I'm just built different 😩
Take shemira out, and put something useful
congrats but this is not the place to post that
Can anyone help me?
Shemira is 700k power
No, it's cos I was stuck on it earlier, and mixed some lineups 😉
700k power still does not change the fact she is poop
Thoran out, lyca in?
Try rowan tank and daimon back with pipa center back
why you put daimon there, ogi throw him like toy (daimon is useless when he can't use his shield), put him somewhere else
try mirroring your comp (ie switch everything like daimon and thoran, pippa and oden)
Another 15-40 request. Am i stuck until i can ascend different heroes?
eh, thoran and brutus tank (brutus face grez and thoran face niru), use nara to pull ferael, eiron to pull niru and isa then fill the team with either nemora or shemira imo
I need some help pls, thx ❤️. Just trying some wird comp
Where daimon?
that champ dont work for me
Please take shemira and lucius out
Rowan in thorans spot to absorb athalias attack
And eiron and daimon, if you want to win
rowan get almost oneshot
Yee boiii
winned with my shem 😄
Help please
Gave it a shot, got closer than before, maybe waiting on levels and/or rng will get me through
What lineup i can used in this fight
@plush pilot thoran brutus
Daimon rowan nara
@torpid lance
Daimon thoran
Nara rowan fera
Used that comp, got lucky and Thoran + Shem survived!
@viral dock
Brutus daimon
Fera rowan oden
Ty so much it worked
Brutus at the place to Oden and daimon behind him
Hi I need some help for this thx 😁
Thanks! It worked 🙂
Hey guys I need help it’s the last boss of the chapter so it’s a little bit frustrating to not be able to pass to next chapter after my big push
That’s the stage and my box
you have to find some way to stun that tasi so she isn't banishing your daimon instantly. Personally, I think Numisu is useless in your setup and I would try and find some way to incorporate a bit more CC rather than just healing so try Fereal for disruption?
Ok thanks for the advice !
can someone help me?
Maybe try rosaline over shemira and choose to follow mirael
will give it a shot ty
Btw imo dont keep shemira on your wishlist, shes not that good
@whole bramble take a look at the wishlist in the pins in #classic-questions
@fiery thistle dont have her there anymore, shes only L+ because I made a mistake at the start of the game
Ohhh ok no worries then
Help please......
Can your rowan survive the initial attack from Athalia
Yes
Even ult sometimes. My Daimon even ults 2 times but it's just not enough and the Safiya ult finishes me off
Very rough level
You have to deal with Ezizh immediately
You can either put fereal in front of him to fear him, or put Eironn and Diamon over there
true that - there's a similar stage in 28 you just have to put daimon in front of ezizh you can try and put rowan backline near him too for some energy
What should I do? Regress Wukong?
Keep leveling him to 100 and pushing campaign and then you can reset him for 20 diamonds
okay, guess gotta wait till tomorrow, cant push him further right now
Are those top 5 an okay lineup for now? Should i build anyone else? Could make anyone you see here legendery
Overlevel daimon instead of estrilda and make him mythic as soon as you have enough fodder
Who is more worth investing in, Rosaline or Estrilda?
For you, estrilda for the sole reason that you have 8 copies already. Rosa is the better hero though.
Thank you so much!!
I need any tips on characters I should invest in for chapter 9 also lineups I should use
What would be my best lineup
Dude stop making L
Anyone got a few to help me out? Been logging on grabbing rewards for months not really active doing anything. Not sure what my next steps should be or where to go from here. I have 100k diamonds lvl 145 account. Shemera carry still with a lot of hero draws / furniture etc to collect. I just wanna focus the right area / direction.
What other characters do you have
Can someone help me on this please?
idk if you still need this but thoran/brutus, daimon frontline with lyca rowan fera backline might work
send your box in #classic-questions
Should I ascend Vurk, Antandra or Anoki next? Got all other Maulers.
whoever has better furniture
Uh I have no furniture for any of them since they aren't ascended... Lol
no like, did you check which one has better furniture stats
@north fulcrum do you know how to do this?
Hmmm
i need to finish chapter 13 before the reset for those faction scrolls to get daimon to mythic
I see
You definitely should not put Rowan and Odin in Hodgkin's and estrildas way to be one shotet
Can sm1 help me with my line?^^^^
then who should i put
it looks good, are you losing?
Looks easy put Daimon in the back
Literally a tank
ok, thoran ig
Who do I put in the front though if I put him in the back
Do u have eironn?
no 😭
Try it with nara
alright, will do, thanks
Wait can I run double tank in the front daimon in the back with Merlin and lyca
Daimon isn't a real tank so yes sure
Can someone help me with my lineup
Any tips on what to put in? Im flexing with the 2 lv180s
Can someone help me with my lineup
What’s a good all around formation for Misty Valley??
4 heroes that fit the gold/silver conditions, then a Lucretia to do the actual work. Consider mercing a 309 one from your friends
Help I’m suffering
what’s the best team i could build with what i have?
only level up 5 heroes
???
did u try swapping lyca and daimon places and making sure rosa follows daimon?
hey can some one help me out with making a team? i dont have the best heros since im only lvl 38 but i would like to have someone thats has alittle more exprience than i do to tell me if im good or if i can improve on my team lol
i only leveled up 5. what team would be good to build with the heroes i have?
Hey can someone help me to improve my team ?
Actually I'm using Lucius, Safira, Wu Hong, Flora and Rosaline
?
which ones
in the question channel there is a beginner guide in the pins :P
Reset everyone and take wukong to 100, your next goal will be building 5 fodder heroes to legend+
In #classic-questions
Just scroll down a bit to find them
do u guys know where I can contact them about purchases I made? I bought a shimera from the labyrinth store since I’m new and when I bought it, I realized my character slots were full, so I never ended up getting shimera, and kinda just wasted money, anywhere to contact customer support?
is it in the mail?
No my latest one is to join this disc, and the others r the claim reward gift codes I redeemed
Can anyone help me through this map?
lyca/farael
brutus
eironn
rowan
daimon
Well done , thanks
If you bought her in the Lab then you received 60 character shards. You'll find them in your bag near your summon stones. You have to click on them to get her.
@pale kettle ^
What can I do here? Keep dying bad
@humble rock
Rowan brutus
Daimon rosa eiron/nara
Got destroyed 7 times exactly so far with that rip
Do you have nara?
Ye just tried to replace eeiron but died 3 times like that too
Rowan brutus
Daimon eiron nara . Daimon with energy art
Help, I cant get through this cancerous stage
I have tried multiple combs from the afk helper website yet cant get through it
faction towers are easier, u can check replays in-game and even check their artifacts and gear by long holding the hero icon
Dang didnt know that, thanks
I’m on chapter 14 and I’ve made a lot of mistakes on this game. What can I do to progress and do things properly? if that makes sense
honestly very minor mistakes (really only eluard to L which isnt even that bad). Take a look at the beginner guide pinned in questions. Also get daimon to M and get his si to +20
okay, what 5 would be my best to run?
what is ur resonating crystal at?
I believe I have 16 slots
what level
what level do the heroes go to?
the highest u can currently go to is 160 due to L+ cap being 160
my bad it’s 5am for me rn
@drowsy sky
Lyca saurus
Raku tasi eiron
Lyca can help you ult Ainz before isabella can do something
how to invite in the summer gift event
Can Someone help me with me with my formation
I need help on a line up for chapter 9
you can try
daimon
thoran
eironn
brutus
lyca
the main problem here is to kill hogan and ferael asap imo, when they having brutus roar it should make daimon kill them easier
@rigid imp thanks for the lineup lmao
lmao 
its funny because i'm stuck on 17-19 with the same exact enemy except stronger
Nope
Used ainz comp
Thoran lorsan peepa
Izold comp
Lyca is taken by izold comp and Rowan is taken by ainz comp
I don't have zolrath nor talane.
Who are recommended fillers?
Is there a way to win this? Or should i just wait til i can level up my heroes? Tyia 🙂
Help please
i win this stage with a team lower lvl than that, if you want you can make friend with me and view my team cuz i can't remember what i used to beat it
How do I add you as a friend?
my id:131293035
input my id the the friend setting tab, it should work
Suggestions?
put mirael middle back, she shouldn't be the tank
It worked best up until now in front but I'll try that
It was better but I lost, I switched mirael with rowan
might try tasi instead of silvina, tasi can help your team 5vs4 for a short time
Okey
With silvina it was better cause she make the enemy focus her and doesn't insta kill my rowan :(
HOW do i beat this one? Getting completely stomped. Can show my box if needed.
switch daimon and rowan then brutus and hogan, it shouldn't be really hard imo
Nope still just getting destroyed, not sure why their Hogan is one shotting my guys, I don't even manage to kill a single one
cuz they have the faction buff so their stats will higher than your team
and you should put thoran in your rc, his revival stun is really effective in some case
Would someone help me garrison Ukyo? I've been playing over a year and I've had no luck finding someone who has him.
#mercenary you can find ppl having dim hero there
thanx
Any recommendations? I know I shouldn't ascend hero's to L without going higher now... ^^'
am a beginner, does anyone have any team recommendations?
my first rerrol was that (with the scroll codes), should i rerrol again or its good this comp?
and i dont know what use of they
@hexed smelt i dont think rerolling is necessary in this game at all, all you need to carry you in the earlygame are fodder units like mirael or saveas or the free wukong. no matter how you reroll the progression of your account is left to your pulls later on since you need multiple copies of the meta units as well as material and timegated equipment and furniture. i suggest looking at the pins in #classic-questions to see recommended units to build, and use faction scrolls that you get throughout campaign to pull specific factions (usually gb and wilders.) make sure your wishlist has the priority heroes on it and just focus on pushing early campaign with whoever you got so you can get more diamonds for pulls. no rerolling neccesary, dont bother.
Wtfff this is some bs lmao
Lmao just got the best luck ever and crit everything to win
Hi guys I’m still blocked on this stage does anyone has an idea ? (I’m close to 100 tries)
And there is my box
I did that one with brutus and lyca instead of thoran and rowan
Ok ty will try
Lmk if it doesnt work, i remember that one being a pain in the ass
Doesn’t work but thanks thought maybe will try a few more tries if not I’ll just wait for my mercenaries to be up
Ooh okok, np
These damn silvina stages, how do i beat them?
Fuck this level is hard. Any tips?
What team can i used here ?
Do your rowan can tank?
@wanton iris in front ?
Yeah
Try frontline rowan and put Oden at the place to eironn
Thoran Rowan front and fera oden Daimon ?
It look like it worked a Little better with Thoran Daimon can't do his second ult
Put daimon behind rowan
Put right side
Im on the right side
I for the life of me can't kill that lucius, 7/10 times get timed out or wittled down slowly until death. Any ideas are welcome.
Help
Please help
any form of 5 pull capable of this? I'll use any units
try brutus hogan daimon rowan arden.
reset fera and gwyn, put the resources into daimon. try alna thoran daimon merlin arden/lyca
reset Izold, put the levels into Mirael.
thoran Hodgkin Silas Mira Rowan shud push u a bit.
the rng on this is terrible. check the site and put on the best gear ya got
alna daimon lyca eironn rowan perhaps
try brutus rowan daimon eironn tidus
possible but doubtful.
- I'm p sure u need Lyca or Kelthur swaps b4 u pull.
- Brutus and Skreg are very difficult to 5p.
I'd much prefer to 5p a diff round if possible.
trying this one but that skreg is a pain such a tank
if u can drop either joker or pop for lorsan that might help, but it'll be harder to keep stuns up.
alright I'll give it a go if I struggle more I'll return thanks!
help is there a better line-up than this? i passed 17-7 with this lineup but somehow i'm stuck here with the same exact enemy 😦
Thx! The merlin just expires in 5 minutes 😂
this is a bit spicy but try Daimon Brutus nara rowan Silas/arden
What do u think about that lineup for now?
What should my lineup be
How do I stop Zaph from instantly ohkoing my whole team
any help for the killing 2 backline... I try múltiples time but it didn't work
any help? no one
Help
Need help been trying since 8
pls help
lmfao
Wow that was very helpful didn't know this is #general now@tepid jolt
i just said it cuz ur 1 stage away from me mb
Thought you were mocking the shemira I built
oh nah
@tepid jolt I'd beat this stage easily if everyone didn't have like 500m dodge@tepid jolt
how do I beat this without rangers and mages?
Does using daimon with 4 support units work? You can try daimon/tasi/rowan/brutus/silas
you can try putting eironn on middle back
Any tips?
Bro ainz the field. Use lyca to boost up ainz haste
I used Eironn, Rowan, Saurus, Talene and Ainz for mine
Any tips to beating this? The mehira is the main problem, can’t seem to kill her
Help done it 100 times
I need help
why don't you use brutus instead of nara? you don't need any pull this stage imo
I did mine by using prince to stun like 1000 times but with your lineup it’s pretty hard. You’re pretty overleveled but just bad heroes I’d try shemira back and have Saurus kill Lucius as fast as possible before shield. Maybe pippin but Idk
You need to use nara to pull Mehira. If you let her summon her bats you lose straight up
plz help
Hi can someone help me for this thx ❤️
Hey, anyone with rentable 3 furn zolrath?
Any advice for thoran cheese? I just can't make it work on this one, tried 4 different variances that worked for others, don't work for me tho. Thoran has t3 boots and weapon borrowed from Izold, on t2 didn't work as well
Usually Skreg stays alive and Talene revives herself at the end, those were the closest variants
I find it much more consistent to manual thoran's second ult for this cheese. I'll get a replay of what it's supposed to look like
I tried to, but he dies so fast even on normal speed
Even when tapping like a maniac most of the times he dies without ulting if auto is not on
Does gear on others even change anything? If anything I thought that its better to have it on so maybe they can tank a little bit more to transfer more energy onto thoran
thoran ults every time for me with this comp even without 5* call so I didn't find it necessary to gear anyone else
I dont know, maybe I't too high lvl and thoran doesnt take enough dmg. Usually i takes 2 ults for just Skreg to be left, Saurus rarely dies from the first one
I'm pretty sure you need a crit on skreg for the first ult and maybe a crit on talene for the second ult. Helm gives crit so it helps with the rng
@raw lynx I think its Khasos fault use some elite Khasos not that strong merc
yeah you don't need kelthur on this stage, and one without 5* call is pretty useless
I swapped Kelthur in, cause Flora didnt do anything except shield thoran which causes him to not deal as much dmg from ult if I understand it correctly
flora is there to finish off lyca when she reaches one hp from taint. the shield is negligible
If Khasos is too strong,he dies late, so when thoran ult, enemies are not all on him, some would be on Khasos still
Kelthur usually is in his undead form at this point
And he cannot be attacked so focus is on thoran regardless
I didn't used Khasos tbh, my flora it was middle
Finally, holy crap it took almost 2 weeks. I think extra crit from helmet might have helped a lot. Thx for the advice you all, have a great day ❤️

@rapid sage that's a little weird setup. Try daimon team or so. Lyca can dodge on athalia, so try something like rowan prince, daimon lyca, and the last slot if you have shroud, try Ferael first, then talene
Ainz would work maybe, but you need lyca and ferael on team I guess
@viral dock you should be done by now with mirael, if there's enough lb fodders get mirael legendary. As about a team wukong works still at lvl 100,but you need to add in your team rowan and rosaline, rosaline to follow mirael.
As about fodders, try to save like 6 rare + and get directly one elite + instead of making diff heroes elite
@brave oriole what team can i make and what lineup then ?
Well, it will be hard until you get mirael legendary etc, u have 2 elite lbs fodders, but you need 2 more of them to be able to ascend mirael at legendary. So for now, a lineup would be, Frontline wukong and rosaline, Backline morael mirael rowan. Also fill your empty slots from resonating crystal with rowan rosaline etc
@brave oriole i need like 2 or 3 last lb food
Well, yeah you have Hogan and angelo, so you need one elite of each
Yeah, and rosaline to follow mirael
Ye Rosaline survive 1 sec
Then try Rosa up wukong down or so, you will find a way
It's hard to give you a win now, but you will figure out. Rowan rosa it's a good change
Ye but wukong nearly can't ult he ult 1/3 run
Anyone got any tips?
Morael it's not great, so maybe find something else instead, use wukong and the other Cele front, as tanks
@austere current eironn front of ezizh maybe, Brutus vs athalia, and rowan front of daimon. You may need call on eironn to ult faster
Alright ty
can i get some help pls, im pretty new so idk what i can do to make a better team
Niru have 1 hp he heal full life what a disgusting hero
@brave oriole i got Daimon E can i used him or should i let my team like that and wait more Daimon ?
You would need at least e+ so you can push to legendary, but you can try it elite I guess. Once you get another copy, make him legendary and use as carry instead of mirael @viral dock
Why legendary ? The Pins said never leg
Cuz he is a gud carry .. let says you has 8 copies of rosa but it wud not make it better to boost your progress since myth daimon can bring you atleast till ch 25
Daimon 1, monkey king 2, brutus 3. rosaline 4, shemira 5
ah thanks! i'll try that out
focus on daimon, she can carry you solo to chapter 12
@austere current
Daimon thoran
Nara brutus ferael or any support
aight i'll try that
ok! thanks a lot
gosh the wave is so hard to beat
I have mirael-silvina-arden-hogan-hodgkin-golus-thoran-oden-rowan-tasi-eironn-pippa-daimon-lyca-wukong what can i do kinda stuck in this stage
Do you think I can win this with one of the mercenaries? Or should i put someone on my resonating crystal to get more people? Or maybe get a specific other merc?
Help me with this, guys
Help
try this?
talene
brutus/estrilda
lyca
daimon
eironn
Didn't work
Daimon
---Brutus
Rowan
---lyca
Eironn
Try this
I managed to get through it using those units with some position switching
Now I'm stuck at this 😭
I can give you some tips:
Try to get daimon always behind brutus (or a nice tank) and as far as possible from eventual burst dmgs, you need him to charge his ultimate. Also get your rowan to +30SI ASAP as you'll need him for mana pots and charge daimon faster.
For this stage i don't have yet a lineup.
Edit: don't put talene in backline because she can respawn so she doesn't need to be "safe" in the backline. If you need to use her put her in the front. (bear in mind it's not always like this)
i think you need nara instead of eironn this stage, arden can be a burden to deal with
I tried this but it didn't work
well you will need some luck
you will know if a stage is beatable when your daimon can proc his shield enough or not
Correct! I switched Brutus and Est and managed to win 😄
Am I underleveled? Is this the issue? Is it normal to have such a hard time ?
not really, underlevel is the main thing of this game, your heroes lvl will always lower than enemy lvl
and enemy power is only about 2x of your so you can still progress a bit more
Reset estrilda (lvl her up till 180) end put daimon to 220. He's your main carry he should be ultra powerleveled. Also get used to having a hard time, later on you might get stuck for more than a week on a single stage. In these early stages you can get your way around it buy just switching formation and spamming battles till you get some luck
Edit: have your daimon always 40 lvls above the others till lvl 240
Thanks for the advice. Any ideas about this? I am not able to kill a single enemy. They keep healing and shielding
If too much healing, try to take out nemora first (with eironn or nara). Also spam battles until Arden doesn't CC daimon
The issue is ulmus. I can't kill nemora cause he keeps healing her
Yup I have no clue what to do
I know that stage to bad but what is shemira doin?
I saw some videos using her so I tried her maybe she would work but it didn't
U tried Prince instead shemira?
Some suggestions, I'm suffering here lol, I didn't get enough luck when pulling elites I don't have carries to ascend so just mirael and saveas is a little bit hard
Yeah no luck
Immunity, heals, shields and any attempt at adding a cc unit ends up with them being insta killed
What formation?
I just cant think of what to use to beat this 3rd one, any ideas are apreciated
any ideas on this first stage?
What team can i do here maybe i could used daimon
suggestion? seems like he needs to ult twice but he dies before that, tho his bar seems to be almost full
nvm replaced raine w talene and he one shot em
any idea on how I could do that without merc?
Can someone help
what would be the best team to go ? im new and i dont know much about the game pls help
this is what i used for it
ty I'll try this (is it important to take yellow furn out?)
one category on thoran's M furn has crit resistance which youll want to take off
ok I see ty I didn't knew
HELP PLZ
Any advice?
You could try out a standard Ainz comp but w that amount of burst it's hella hard
yeah it's rough, i've tried everything to stall for ainz.
maybe try with skreg? You could try out some Mauler setups the totems might stall for a small amount of time. Or try and cheese it?
oh wait your thoran has little SI and like no furn rip
rip...
that formation is very interesting
Help me
Nevermind I passed it
oh sick
Out of all these what would be the best lineup
Need help beating
Anyone got any tips? Haven’t been able to beat it
You need support, or put Eironn in front of eziz with diamon behind Eironn
Any help to pass this pls ?
Got OS when isabella ult
Try arden instead of Silas
I get OS faster :/
you got nara or belinda? they can stall/weaken isa until you can burst ithers
Stuck on 10-4 anyone I should remove from team/swap out for
Saveas is the lethal there, try good control hero to disable him
Tasi is a pretty good pick
Also general advice, try to focus on 5 heroes to level them equally
So your resonate hero level can be higher
^ thanks! Haha I ran out of the crystal spots so I had put exp into a few but I’ll reset a few
Reset level and level up mirael (legend fire hot girl there) is fine
She’s an easy 140 level boost there for your team now
K will do thanks!
You have 5 legend tier now to 140, but should plan for 160 as well
She is in middle right and tasi to her right? Is shemira good for her left?
Legend + required epic + of same hero
Won’t have to use her, she can serves as level booster
For your resonant heroes
Ahhh okay
Need good lineup for Mind cage Mehira 👍
Can someone linkme to wrizz Soren lineups please
@fiery wing
i'm not sure about the positions but i remember using this comp seems wacky and no sense at all but basically i put silas to decrease the healing oden to displace so the fereal can fear and let the rng hope you kill shem before she kills you & silas able to inject daimon
Not sure who to use haha
Leveling up isnt a problem but knowing WHO to lvl up is lol
Been stuck for a couple days now :/
Is the mihra roku rowan combo really that good/or can someone explain to why it works? And who would they pair with
It works because mehira instantly charms everyone and raku bursts them down. Good teammates include brutus, lyca, zol, khaz, daimon, etc
@maiden marsh Hmm okay. Currently still running the whole eironn, lyca, tasi, saphiya, rowan. With some swap outs here and there for the main campaign. Trouble I usually run into is by the time I can build the meta group it's changed already because I can't buy dimensionals and making celehypo takes forever. Does mehira work well in alot of group placements? I have only used her for one of the TR
help me through hardship
Painful stage, any suggestions?
Send rest of heroes
First step is to stop being a thief.
Then go merc Ainz
Try
Ferael
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
Out of these what would be the best team
I’m hard stuck on a boss so I need a dif team
show the stage
Hi All, Is this the Channel that im allowed to ask for HELP/MERC?
Your heroes placed rn seem fine, try moving them around more to get that isabella
I’ve been doing that for hours
LOL?
Dead serious it’s been like 5 hours
Dude I've been on my stage for like 2 hours
Dang
Usually oden and nara are good enough
Try lucius instead of thoran to see if he saves you a bit
If only I could see what I did for my Niru Isabella stage
Migut want to use wukong instead of thoran
Ok
just beat my stage in the dumbest way possible, 2 tanks, wukong + izold, and merlin lol wtf
I like it when things go right when i decide to throw away my mindset and try stupid things
Hi can someone help me for this thx ❤️
Am stuck, what should I be doing with my heroes?
As soon as you see he can’t work like he did back then, throw him away. Also check pins in #classic-questions
Ur level 32 with 3294k sus
What do you mean?
Ur coin
Is thst a lot?
That’s normal, they reward a lot coin for new starter
I have around 20M at level 40 and sitting on 31M at level 46 without opening any coin chest
Gonna lose my marbels over vedan
Should I just hire a daimon or something ;(
Ok I seriously hate it when things work out the second i ask for help.
@normal stratus
Rowan brutus
Shem rosa eiron
Make rosa followin shem
@fiery thistle
Rowan daimon
Lyca rosa lorsan
Anyway I can beat these guys with what I have? (I have enough to get some others to level 100)
Closest I've gotten is a 2v1 (Vedan, Brutus vs Merlin) with this team
Sometimes even a 1v1 with merlin merlin and vedan if I'm lucky
Thanks it worked 😁
I've moved them all, its been hours lol
@warm yew use this
Pippa
Wukong
Rowan
Thoran
Seveas
What would be my best 1v1 pvp setup?
Which of my heroes should I place in the crystal? Got only 4 slots, are the celestial heroes i have good for early?
Wukong is very good until level 100 @lime vapor
You can put Daimon on your cristal too
dude at first i also thought vedan is bummer in campaign, until i faced isabella, and the throwing wilder guy
I don^t get why resonating crystal has a 24h cooldown for new players, it's pretty annoying
I am building a weird team
Lucious shemira rowan norma and wukong. I am trying to find a substitute for wukong though and idk what would work best. If I choose twins from summer gift I'mma have too many supports and only one win con (aka shemira). So I was thinking of getting Talene
What do you all suggest?
I just throw tank teams at Isabella lol
prevent hero change abuse afaik, but idk how they do that
Nope, didn't even kill one of them, might have to wait for a merc or some how get 6000 essence to break my current level cap on all 5
yea wait at high deficit
German?
yes, but why does it matter?^^
is there a set lineup i can make for the whole of chapter 9 with these units?
enemy lineup is vary and so does yours, you have to use your your heroes to win so no exact lineup
but here is an example for an ok comp:
arden
hogan
mirael
thoran
shemira/rosa/nara
🙏, ill keep that in mind and change my team up when i have trouble. thanks!
Can someone help?
Any help?
@gaunt dragon try tasi instead of oden
@dull trellis borrow better merc like 9/9 30 SI antandra or 3/3 20 SI vurk
Too bad none of my friends has antandra or other so good
Why your sup in frontlane?
swap daimon and shemira then replace shemira with kren
or swap shemira with brutus
Wanna finish chapter 19 today, hardstuck on this rn. everytime im close Ira ults and kills daimon.
yes power lower than 50% idc
I need help, struggling here....
available: 203 oden, 153 nara, 203 daimon, 203 saphya, 203 tidus, 10 brutus, 303 saurus, 303 athalia, 20 kren, 103 twins, 20 khazard, 10 flora, legendary mehira.
do you have raku rosa free?
Can someone help me i think i can win but idk what i can do for my team/lineup
I need help please
do you have nara?
:/
Sadly not
looks winnable, you can nara the tasi instead of eironn and it should win tbh
eironn?
Yes but not that high
doesnt matter, just need to pull ferael
Ok and then ?
daimon >Rowan Eironn >Brutus Lyca try something like that
It look hard even with nara
Ok thank you
Okey so wtf Nara grab Tasi she tp away in the grab and Nara stun in the void and i win wat 
- that’s an awful formation and doesn’t work and 2. shemira is my carry
daimon should be your carry, get him to sig 20, swap shem with brutus and keep daimon backline for that fight, if you have a nara it might be worth hooking arden
help me pls someone with ideas i struggle hard at this stage im 12-2 what team to build vs this lineupe of enemies u can see also my box down
@worldly apex u told me i dont nede lvl 160 to beat stage 12 but pls give me some tipps...
Oden >Thoran Rowan >Daimon Lyca, try something like that
so oden throan front? and daimon lycarowan in back?
doesent work all explode if i put oden in the front he gets 1 shot if i put him in the back he dies in 2 shots...this i say either im underlevveled or i dont understand @worldly apex
Oden top back, thoran top front, daimon bottom front, rowan mid back and lyca botback
read the pins in #classic-questions the guide by tree3
thats some crazy luc rng unless you've been gazing.
try something like replacing gwynn with eironn(pref nara), maybe swap that eironn with daimon to pull arden, or just keep eironn in the middle to pull them into lucrecia
Help needed please
Any idea of team/lineup ?
Could someone help with a team pls ;-;..
Why did you have Belinda in wishlist
could anyone help pls- ;-;
you don’t create a forever team, you place hero’s depending on their enemy’s team comp
first of all you made a big mistake making all those Ls
Can someone help me pls
.guidelist
Halp, already used ainz, 5 pull, and god comp
Use your titus.
Where
Your merc.
Where do I put him..
Here's a better pic of who I used
Need help for this fight can't find a team or the good lineup
@viral dock replace thoran with fareal
@safe ridge only that ?
How the hell do I beat this, people beat it 70 crystal lvls lower than me, same setup, lower artifact lvls...
Been trying surely 100+ resets
Someone help me
@desert lintel then retry ?
If you find a cheese replay in-game in that specific stage, you should long tap their heroes to see what gear and artifacts they used. This can make a huge difference
he has saurus t3 weapon and boots and 4* call, i have full t2 5* gear and 5* call
@viral dock here's my teams I used and all my heroes
Did you mean Thoran?
no, hes using saurus t3 on thoran
Oh so basically same gear
Does he have chest and helm removed on Thoran?
thats what i thought ya, hence i dont understand. yes, he has no helm and chest
I beat it replacing raine with kelthur, but jesus. How many hours that guy must've tried
So helm gives dodge which probably doesn’t matter (since it’s so small) but chest gives PR which reduces the damage Thoran takes, and therefore reduces the damage his ult does
ohhhhh, dam
@safe ridge i couldn't rlly help you im not this far was just thinking that if people with lower hero did it you could did it why less retry than them
If you’re not succeeding due to lack of Thoran damage then that’s potentially the reason
Could someone help me
you might be able to frontline him against ulumus but definitely not against kaz
i would also put gwyn across from arden as im pretty sure itll interrupt his root and make the stage a lot easier
Daimon is an “okay” tank in the frontline, though he needs to stack his ultimates in order to be OP. So, I would hide him behind Arthur like the other guy said.
Would like some help too
Thx
is this doomed?
fawkes
rowan
gwyn
estrilda
rose
@sturdy idol ye but in those chapter Daimon is a chips my Daimon is full T1 gear lvl 240 and got one shot
Ofc.
He is a carry not a tank.
He functions more like a sturdy mage.
I used a level 180 daimon with T1 gear in chapter 21.
op was at like 30 level deficit, i wouldn't think they'd be getting 1 shot
@sturdy idol i got my first T1 gear rlly lately and i could still winning with determination and lineup :3
I’d say it’s doomed. Gwyn needs a lot more investment, preferably +20 or higher, hopefully your Fawkes is very geared or he won’t dodge Athalia, and Rosa Sig is very relevant
Like this?
@pale kettle
LB tower
Begone 
that looks pretty good, how does it work?
Yeah LB tower is rough since investing in those heroes is such low priority
Let me try
fawkes is wearing full lucretia T3 gear 
could also throw in brutus over the new hero if he dies too fast, i'm not sure how good hodgkin is
So then he should have a decent change of staying alive. The lack of hp doesn’t help but you’re probably not wanting to ascend him yet
It did not work
Gwyn sig gives haste so if you’re copying a replay where she interrupts Mehira, make sure yours is interrupting fast enough as well
My brutus is like very low level
did it get wiped instantly or did you last for a little
ohhhhh that makes a lot more sense why i'm failing now, thanks!
his strength is in his invincibility bubble, e+ in you resonating crystal should do fine
For a tiny hit
Happy to help
So gold plus?
even purple would work, so l+ is more than enough
try both and see how they work, if you use brutus make sure he's in the frontline though
K
@faint current idk if it's rlly for us to get 2 backline killed i did that 1 time and it didn't work so idk how rlly work those stage where you need to be the first to do something
Gz! What did you use? Gwyn still or Ainz/Luc?
Or i think it's just the trad in my country Who is rlly bad
There you go. I just used Ainz and retried the stage until I got the achievement
I still don't understand the stage where you need 2 hero like what can you do if you don't have both
If you have neither one then you cannot do that challenge. (Unless their trial is still available)
@faint current i have a stage i need thali and talene and got no one of them and since thali is not in my wishlist the % to finished this MV is low
You can get the big chest at the end without doing any of the challenges. Sometimes you don’t get all the rewards.
I was 99% sure I wasn’t going to be able to do the challenge that requires Titus until a guildie ascended him to L and I happened to be the first to request it
@faint current i did 58/60 of the reward the second one is also Titus i wanted to take the one on my second account but well it's a E titus
could I have some help?
Can you show the rest of your box
I got it
Nice
brutus daimon fera rowan lyca might work.
I just swapped daimon and Lyca and thanks
My friends inventory, he is 10-24, what should his team be?
He is kinda stuck so help would be appreciated 🙏
Any characters to evolve or level up will be appreciated
Read the pin in #classic-questions
have you tried rowan frontline instead of ainz and use lyca for haste buff instead of desira ?
Stuck for a couple days
Help.
how many retires have you done? bc with that i think you can do it with rng
i saw someone with 6674 retry so be brave 
About how am I doing?
but why eironn ?
suck brutus in only make him die faster (brutus roar won't let him dodge)
Who should I be using instead?
i don't know much but maybe gwyneth ?
enemy back row is annoy and that tasi too, i don't have much experience with these enemy
Aight, ty. I’ll try with her.
if eironn work better maybe put him in the bottom slot cuz brutus is his worst enemy
Eironn is way better than Gwyn
Show box
Don't use Ainz without Albedo
Everything relevant in the box is visible in the shot
So your only 2 dps are Eironn and Gwyn?
Pls help
#@rigid imp I’ll try that
a okok, tyy
Np
@nocturne wraith do u can auto ascend your hero I'll can help u after
I died immediately
Show your box pls
Show your box
Ok