lineup-help

[gilded venture]

my frontlane die too quickly i guess

[hoary sierra]

Put your Brutus infront of dinosaur man

[gilded venture]

instead of lucius ?

[hoary sierra]

He should act as a time stop for a while

No, try w/o albedo first, then Lucius

Unless their linked....

[gilded venture]

their brutus kill all of my team when he is invincible

[hoary sierra]

Put ains and position 5 You want to try and keep him or Joker away from Brutus for as long as possible so they can use their ultimate

[gilded venture]

ainz can ultimate but not rose

[hoary sierra]

So what's the problem, are you not able to deal enough damage fast enough or you're not able to take the damage received

[gilded venture]

ainz can ultimate once but he cant kill them

because of brutus invincible

[hoary sierra]

Is Brutus only one alive or do the rest survive as well

[gilded venture]

the rest survive as well but if ainz dont die from brutus he can ult a second time

[hoary sierra]

Hmm

Dunno, keep trying random combos

If you find one that almost works, try and reconfigure the team positions

[pale kettle]

What are the best 3 teams I can make with this (for arena)

[hoary sierra]

I'd only make 2 strong ones....only need to win twice

[pale kettle]

Okay then what would you suggest?

[tepid current]

Any advice?

[pale kettle]

My 3 teams look like this atm

[hoary sierra]

Hmm

I'll let you know when I have a chance, just got to work

[gilded venture]

i clap this fuckiing lvl thanks :))

[silver dock]

How do I beat this

[frozen plinth]

How can i beat this?

How

[copper agate]

Nvm

[teal mirage]

Help please

Anyone here?

[upper fog]

Any help us welcome, I get deleted any time thanks in advance

[jade shore]

Any help for this stage

[north linden]

Any suggestion what team should i build im really strugling..

[vital wave]

Is there anything I can do to win this or increase my chances

[quaint token]

Do u have silas?

You should level up your shemira

[vital wave]

Bruh I missed the pause button and I didn’t get to retry dammit, also I don’t think so havnt heard of Silas

I have 3 slots in the resonating crystal open so I’ll put her there then

Since we’re on that topic who else should I put there

[maiden marsh]

Check out the pins in #classic-questions , you should be transitioning to mirael carry at this point.

[vital wave]

Ik I made a stupid mistake with my ascention I’m still trying to fix that

That’s why I’m trying to win that battle so I can get diamonds for summons

[maiden marsh]

Don't bother with shemira, not worth using.

[vital wave]

I keep getting very unlucky and only getting mirael once every 50 spins tho :/

Idk how

[unreal isle]

I just started and did a lot of pulls. Which units should I pair up?

[pale kettle]

Eiroon lyca tasi Rowan fearal

That's one of the best line ups there are in my opion next to ainz/god

[unreal isle]

Thank you!

[pale kettle]

Or maybe the five pull with chicken

[pale kettle]

Np

[burnt dust]

that inventory

[maiden marsh]

Might want to start again, and this time check out the pins in #classic-questions before you brick your account spamming L heroes.

[unreal isle]

Thank you i will read over those pins.

[short dust]

How I cheese this back top and back bottom keep surviving

[maiden marsh]

Gwyn out for a better support like tasi or nara or lyca.

[short dust]

i tried nara she kept getting killed to fast

[short dust]

the guy with the scythe only survived

[maiden marsh]

That'll happen, he's tanky.

[short dust]

better option than fereal? my gear for him doodo

[maiden marsh]

Idk, maybe thoran or another of the supports I said

[short dust]

who needs gear more nara or thoran?

[maiden marsh]

Nara

[short dust]

im trying it

[short dust]

thank you so much it worked

[small zenith]

can i make this team any better?? (stuck at chapter 10-16)

[short dust]

you messed up a lot

[short dust]

instead of leveling up characters you need to level up fodder and ascend fodder then use characters on resonating crystal

[short dust]

also you have no main carry on your team besides daimon and he is underleveled so get a full team of elite+ fodder then level them all up to 120 and put your team on resonating crystal

[small zenith]

saurus is a beastr

plus only got 1 copy of daimon

[short dust]

thats why you use crystal

[small zenith]

i can reset them??

[short dust]

yes you messed upo

you took normal heros up to legendary without taking them straight up to legendary+ and you need to use fodder at start but because you took normal heros up you prob dont have enough fodder?

[small zenith]

i will reset all of my heroes when i have enough diamonds and then make a team of fodder heroes and then do i put them on resonating siphon when they are 120 level??

[short dust]

It should look like this but replace Rowan with fodder

[small zenith]

are they the best fodder team?

[short dust]

not really but your not really using fodder on your team besides mireal everyone else should be normal heros

[small zenith]

so use mireal, ankhira ira nira and another fodder and make them all the highest acension level i can??

[short dust]

yes you want them all to be elite+ at least for a full level 120 team and daimon will be your main carry Saurus isnt a carry

[small zenith]

so replace rowan on your siphon with daimon?

and make her lvl 100? i only have 1 copy

[short dust]

no you dont want rowan on your siphon and its a he you only want fodder i ran out of fodder

[small zenith]

so a team like this full max level?

[short dust]

NOOOOOO you only use those to get your other people leveled up higher than their acensioni with crystal

you dont atually use those on your team besides mireal

[pale kettle]

Not necessarily, you can use many fodder heros on your team like hogan, golus and arden

[short dust]

yeah but there are more useful people out of normal heros

[pale kettle]

there arnt many early on

[short dust]

hes not that early on he had level 140 and stuff

[pale kettle]

different opinions on early on i guess

[small zenith]

i dont understand what im supposed to do

[short dust]

i have levels 120-140 and i have over 70 elites not including copys

[rigid imp]

actually the rule is use to the legend heroes of each faction that you have the most copy since he can reach L+ easily, not strict to any legend hero

[short dust]

yeah but your not supposed to make heros legendary until you can make them L+

[small zenith]

need only 1 more saurus for l+ saurus

[rigid imp]

this rule don't apply to 3 skill heroes, you can do that freely cuz you feed them after all

[short dust]

ok but he made normal heros legendary already which is why he doesnt have much fodder

[rigid imp]

yeah do that to 4 skill heroes is a big oof

[short dust]

he didnt know and he already did it so im trying to help him get 3 skill heros to elite+ and higher so he can have a full 120 team

[small zenith]

ahhhhh i get you now make a full 120 fodder team so i can have 120 full team???

[short dust]

yes with crystal if all your fodder is 120 you can have a full normal 120 team

[small zenith]

i will do it now i understand now

[hoary sierra]

Awesome, glad I could do nothing 😂😂

[latent thorn]

best izold comp?

I currently using this

this is from a guide

another one but my rowan needs lvl up so he can tanky

[maiden vapor]

for campaign or pvp?

[pale trellis]

How am I supposed to set this up

[silent shore]

i used graveborn comp + some rando honestly isabella will shred them regardless

[pale trellis]

Ty

[boreal hazel]

Help please?

Last chest then I’m done with that trial

[fossil thicket]

any tips?

[high marlin]

Don't put rowan with Lucretia

[fossil thicket]

what instead

[boreal hazel]

Uh…I was first…

[fossil thicket]

@boreal hazel watch the picture above ur message

[boreal hazel]

Oh I see it. Thank you

Got it. Thanks

[high marlin]

Work on getting 3f on skraith for 5 pull. For rn use like lorsan, safiya, etc

[boreal hazel]

Okay and now…uh…what do I do about this island of solitude event and the voyage of wonders? I’m really confused

[fossil thicket]

yeah i HPC skriath to A him and i need 2 more F for 3... i dont have lorsan atm and safiya is only L+ is this enough?

[plucky laurel]

Any idea on how I should kill this Nemora? I keep losing on time because of her

[high marlin]

Any support can work

[fiery wing]

is hodgkin is good for an early game daimon comp? or thoran still better

[plucky laurel]

#classic-questions

[spare girder]

Am I doing this right?

[faint current]

@short dust Here

[faint current]

Mirael is good,
Nara should only be used if you’re specifically trying to interrupt something,
Thoran back row probably doesn’t contribute much
Daimon is an odd choice that probably won’t contribute much at low level and ascension
Rowan might be ok, make sure you gear him, he competes with Mirael for int gear.

You should be building an Arden that you can use

[short dust]

Who’s that

[faint current]

Wilder fodder

[short dust]

I have not been

[silent shore]

The healing from Lucius and Nemora is impossible

[faint current]

Golus or Saveas you also should be building. Both are very good to use on your team

Those are mauler fodder

[short dust]

I have the weird girl with little spider claws as legendary

[faint current]

It’s good for long term that you’ve built a mauler fodder, but for short term she’s not very good. You can try using her on your team but I tried her early game and didn’t have much luck with her

[faint current]

Twins instead of Fawkes, do they survive? Long enough to ult?

[silent shore]

They don’t unfortunately

[faint current]

Unfortunate. I’m assuming you’re trying to run Fawkes to try and cut back on enemy healing from Lucius shields but I suspect you may be better off trying to kill one before that happens. I would try Lyca, Prince of Persia, or Eironn and see what happens with those. If you can nab a kill, Daimon can start snowballing

[silent shore]

Yeah the problem is Lucius is a direct counter to daimon and the nemora insta ccs the twins so I’m not doing damage at the rate they are healing

Lmao thx man I just had to Rowan the prince and like 10 stuns later

[plucky laurel]

Help anyone

[silent shore]

Oh wow you got an Ainz. I don't really think Prince works well in that setup since Ainz needs a bit more protection and he still can't pseudotank. Maybe find another tank? Or put him in frontrow?

[plucky laurel]

What other tank can I use?

and I got ainz from garrison btw

[faint current]

Sweet glad to hear it!

[storm epoch]

have lyca skraith front saf eironn with 5th as carry flex luc,tidus,gorvo etc queen can sub for saf for stuns aswell

[faint current]

Better off with call or eye on Eironn (call or shroud once you unlock shroud) and eye (or shroud) on Lyca

[latent thorn]

campaign

[swift nexus]

I'm having a real bad time with one of the uhhh The Final Night stages, Is it like feasible with the heroes I have or am I in some awkward purgatory of not being being able to complete the voyage?

then uhhh I have these dudes

Joker is linked to Shem, Ainz is to Belinda

[pale kettle]

Rowan instead of Lyca and you can probably just use a mercinary too

[swift nexus]

Guessing I have to sack someone then? Cause I can't finish the stage before Kelthur does his ghost thing and kills Ainz

[clear lark]

what’s a good team for me for mind caged seirus

[pale kettle]

Help plz

[pale kettle]

One hero that will survive for 30 seconds and use only that 1 hero 4 times every 3 days

[gilded dome]

They legit one shot me

[brave oriole]

@gilded dome thoran fault, try replacing with Brutus for a sec

[low cradle]

this all my hero

2

[rigid imp]

i think you should think about resonating crystall first, your box should be enough to pass chapter 12

[low cradle]

i well but what best team to level up

[low cradle]

pls help me

[rigid imp]

first you should check the pin in #classic-questions about the legendary hero (the new player tips combi image), then reset most of your heroes and focus on lvl 5 main heroes only

[low cradle]

yes i check and put thies

i put this

[rigid imp]

put brutus,lyca,thoran on the resonating crystal, you will need them

them your team should be like this: lucius and brutus as tank, backline with lyca, arden and shemira (lvl her up as high as possible)

and then you can proceed and start fixing your mistake about those gold hero soon

[low cradle]

but what hero i can rest all

but what 5 heros to level up

[rigid imp]

focus on lvl up lucius,shemira,mirael, antandra and 1 more elite+ heroes (preferably hogan and golus) but don't ascend them anymore (except for mirael, you can ascend her to max and you want to do that btw)

then start build up the 5 fodder follow the pins ( just need to ascend them, you can reset lvl to them when they reach Legendary+ )

[autumn igloo]

Silvina keeps wrecking my isabelle in seconds (isabelle usually carries the battle)

[brave oriole]

Just use poor Rosa for luring silvina

[grim lance]

I dont know how to deal with hendrik shield

[autumn igloo]

I tried to, rosa would die instantly and then the enemy isabelle kills mine.

[brave oriole]

But a small trick, Lucius with call in front of silv should stop her dash

[autumn igloo]

Oh? i’ll try

Oh wow won instantly, thanks!

[brave oriole]

Np man 👍

[autumn igloo]

Look at how hard she carries, Lucius and Isabelle are basically the key to winning all my battles

When they use their ults its game over

[grim lance]

Its low defficit

[autumn igloo]

Whats that

[grim lance]

The level difference between your team and the enemy team

[autumn igloo]

Its too high?

[grim lance]

Its too low

[autumn igloo]

Is that a bad thing?

[grim lance]

Not that much

But usually heroes like izold and lucretia can carry you with +150 or +160 defficit

[brave oriole]

Well, Belinda doesn't rlly fit, lyca haste would help you more

[autumn igloo]

Hm

[gilded dome]

They still one shot

[floral cargo]

I have those, and i was told to switch from belinda to lyca. Should i?

[maiden vapor]

#classic-questions and can u show box

[floral cargo]

Box?

[maiden vapor]

all of ur heroes

[floral cargo]

Kk go to #classic-questions

[mellow nacelle]

need help

[meager aspen]

Any assistance of what should I do

[candid flint]

Can someone help

[jolly plume]

hard stuck

[rigid imp]

hodgkin face hogan, brutus face estrilda, use grezhul instead of eironn for the dmg reduction bonus, rowan middle and daimon top in backline, give it a few try

[candid flint]

Thanks

[rigid imp]

if thoran can't use his taint then put him backline and hodgkin frontline instead, his taint is super good in some cases

[grizzled spruce]

Is there any way to counter fawkes from taking away my Gwen for the entire battle

[maiden marsh]

Shroud if you insist on using gwyn, or just don't use her. I see a daimon down there itching to eat that shemira, become M, and carry.

[grizzled spruce]

I thought I shouldn’t use ascendable heroes as food?

I don’t have shroud either

[plucky laurel]

Help please

This Skreg keeps blocking my prince from moving

[plucky crystal]

Is 36-16, round 3 possible without five star call? I've retried the stage about an hour everyday since Sunday with no luck

[maiden marsh]

If you can merc an alna, this works infinitely better.

[plucky crystal]

I've got an alna graveborn comp, I'll try it out thanks

[maiden marsh]

Take 9F off ferael here so he fears before he's banished

[plucky crystal]

Do you have your other teams saved for the rest of the rounds? I have to rejig teams if I can't use thoran cheese for round 3

[maiden marsh]

R1 raku team, easiest win ever

R2 luc cheese

R4 ainz, lineup isn't very picky, r5 cleanup as usual

[plucky crystal]

Yep perfect. Same comps I was using. I'm onto round 5 so just need to yeet random heroes till one sticks. Thanks so much for the help

Managed it. Thanks again @maiden marsh 👍

[maiden marsh]

[ember sphinx]

Someone pls help

Nvm epic brutus FTW

[small mortar]

I need help here pls

[small mortar]

@rigid imp ty

[ember steppe]

help please ive tried everything and nothing works

[jade shore]

Please help

[boreal hazel]

Any suggestions?

[boreal hazel]

Why is your Daimon lowest lvl? Daimon should be highest

[ember steppe]

not enough copies

i need one more daimon but help with the formation @boreal hazel

[boreal hazel]

Ah I see

Um…I’m really not sure tbh…my Daimon is my highest lvl character so Im really not sure

[ember steppe]

f

[boreal hazel]

Do you have a Nara?

Wait a minute…why is Shemira in front and grezhul in back?

[ember steppe]

idk that’s why i’m asking for help

[boreal hazel]

Put grez in front and Shemira in back

[ember steppe]

where

[boreal hazel]

Just have them swap places

[ember steppe]

ok

doesn’t work

[boreal hazel]

Hm…dunno sorry

[ember steppe]

f

[jade shore]

Can someone help with this

[unkempt field]

Do you have a Brutus? Shemira is not good frontline

[ember steppe]

i have an L brutus

[unkempt field]

Even E brutus is enough

[boreal hazel]

Anyone got advice on this?

[ember steppe]

My formation look like?

what should*

?

@unkempt field

[quartz compass]

Should I get him or use these tokens to get someone else

[boreal hazel]

#classic-questions please

[unkempt field]

Remove Daimon since he is not M with SI 20. Use Nara to disrupt Isabella. Remove Grez and add Rosaline to follow Shemira

[ember steppe]

sl20?

[royal stag]

Get him 100%

[unkempt field]

Signature Item

[ember steppe]

i keep dying

[unkempt field]

Just AFK for rewards then

[ember steppe]

ok

[silent shore]

Use your new hero Hodgkins. You have him on trial either way

[barren crown]

stuck on 9-20 what should i do

[fiery thistle]

First of all, dont make characters into Legendary if you cant make them Legend+, also build up 5 fodder heroes to legend +

[barren crown]

ok

[fiery thistle]

Take a look at the guide, it will help prevent mistakes and is really good for learning the best ways to progress

Its in #classic-questions

[velvet belfry]

daimon ogi frontline rowan lyca nemora backline would probably work for you atm, you can also try building arden as you need to build fodder heroes to legend+ anyways

[slow lantern]

always have the magician or marksmen in the back line :)

eironn plus wukong (all with 3rd skill unlocked) is the most nastiest combo ever

[worldly apex]

wot

[slow lantern]

eironn pulls them all together and monke just use his falling fury

[barren crown]

god dam bat guy keeps murdering all my characters in like 3 seconds

nevermind

[worldly apex]

thats literally any combo with eironn, wait til you get 3f skriath then he pops off

[slow lantern]

just started the game yesterday and got those 2 heroes
and discovered the combo today 😅
too good helped me climbed the arena ladder as well

[worldly apex]

nice

[pale kettle]

halp please

[velvet belfry]

wukong will fall off significantly unless you whale tho, so be careful

[slow lantern]

whose that guy that look like poseidon with the trident

his ult is quite op with the knockbacks

[velvet belfry]

try saveas frontline instead of silas?

[velvet belfry]

seirus. pretty bad champ

[slow lantern]

oop

[smoky anvil]

Any ideas? Seems like one of those weirdly hard singles

[silent shore]

Who si Tasi banishing for your team and for theirs

[smoky anvil]

khasos and izold/oden/fera

[silent shore]

The issue is that I don't see the purpose of Oden in this specific comp. Ideally you would want to provide a tiny more support for the Izold ult correct? Did you consider prince stuns or lyca or something? I'm slightly less experienced than you I apologize but I think that stunning the Tasi with the prince lyca combo could prevent the izold banish and help you kill one or the other faster. Also banishing khasos IDK damage so i can't tell but im inferring that tasi is who is the most annoying here

[still snow]

Trying to clear trial of gods for the artifacts. Based on my heroes what’s my best formation for the first one? I really need help with these I haven’t cleared or done a single one

[floral marten]

Do you want Ainz and Albedo?

[still snow]

I would like very much I just didn’t have the resources very much upset

[floral marten]

Ok

[still snow]

How do I get it?

[meager summit]

Any ideas for a good 2 to 4 man team to clear Island of Solitude?

[silent shore]

daimon rowan tank

[silent shore]

Help I last 20 secs at best

[steady storm]

Idk what to do, any tips on improving my deck?

[pale kettle]

Can you show rest of the box?

[pale kettle]

Not bad

[steady storm]

I searched around and apparently shemira is really good so I’m glad I pulled her

[pale kettle]

||she falls off but whatever||

[steady storm]

Oh

It’s fineee

[pale kettle]

Try to swap satrana for rosa and set Rosa to shemira

[steady storm]

Oh ok, ty!

[pale kettle]

Yeah can you also show me ur wish list just to make sure

[steady storm]

Sure

Honestly I found it off a YouTube vid haha

[pale kettle]

Okay you should be pretty set

[steady storm]

epic

i appreciate the help

[pale kettle]

Np and now time for me ask some help

[steady storm]

lol

i wish i could you haha

[pale kettle]

#classic-chat now if you wanna talk

[candid flint]

Can someone help

[jade shore]

Please help I've been asking for 2 days straight

[pale kettle]

I just wanna be able to stargaze lol please help

[meager summit]

Put Eironn in the middle and Rowan into 1st pos, from there you might need to swap Lucius out for damage, maybe Hog

[barren crown]

stuck on this i get that i shouldn't legend characters until i can get legend+ instantly

[pale kettle]

Help pls

[fiery thistle]

This stage is painful

[north fulcrum]

Absolutely no fuking idea

[viral dock]

What can i put against fawkess ?

[stuck jacinth]

Help pls

[fiery thistle]

Throw Nara in your crystal

[fiery thistle]

Who gets banished/

[fiery thistle]

Send a pic of the rest of your heroes

[stuck jacinth]

@fiery thistle

[maiden marsh]

Absolute garbage, google guides are often misleading or out of date. If you want a nice beginner guide, check the ingame wiki which was just updated, and the pins in #classic-questions

Those pins also have a good starting wishlist

[steady storm]

oh shit, thanks for the tip. Ive been watching alot of volkin haha

[maiden marsh]

Volkin's entertaining but oftentimes not the most educational. Fortunately we have plenty of people making up to date guides both ingame and in discord, plenty of which you'll find around here

[ebon hazel]

So I've done roughly 300 attempts, no getting through, do I say fuck it and just try to overlevel?

[maiden marsh]

Some would call 120 overleveled already lol. I will say that this particular cheese is doomed shit, you have an alna/alna merc?

[ebon hazel]

It was a 150 deficit when I reached here
I can merc an Alba

Izold Hend Silias Rowan and Fareal in first team

[maiden marsh]

Violá

ignoring the fact that this took a fuckton of tries too

[pale kettle]

There's some Thoran clears on afkhelper at 340. one example

[ebon hazel]

Against a level 524 enemy

[pale kettle]

same fight, i just snipped it

[maiden marsh]

I don't doubt that thoran can probably win this but this is literally the worst flora in ch35 imo

[ebon hazel]

Same fight, against them when they are level 524 before chasmic

[pale kettle]

yes

[high marlin]

Fellow darker than black fan 🤝

[pale kettle]

Ayyy 👍

[ebon hazel]

How much so I have to gear my Daimon/Grez, already running a bit thin on STR gear

[maiden marsh]

Probably not too badly needed considering the lower deficit

[ebon hazel]

If I don't have Ainzvedo I probably don't need Arthur right, might just pull his gear

[pale kettle]

Post update

[north fulcrum]

I've got it

[chilly ferry]

Any suggestion what i do from here?

[barren crown]

help cant beat this stage i get not to upgrade to legend unless i can get it to legend+ instantly

[fiery thistle]

Cecilia where nemora is, and put oden where lyca is, take out ogi and put lyca in the front row

[stuck jacinth]

Why do u use that e flora?

[wet nexus]

Can someone please help? I think I messed up. Can't progress any further.

[grizzled mulch]

I need help making a 5 person team

[fair field]

lucretia, lucius, silas, daimon, shemira

[grizzled mulch]

Alright

[old oar]

Do Anyone know how I can beat this? If I even can.

[fair field]

replace antandra with shem maybe

[old oar]

K

[barren crown]

any help

[fair field]

replace oden with nemora maybe

[grizzled mulch]

@fair field didn't work... But thanks lol

[fair field]

oh

[barren crown]

didn't work

[grizzled mulch]

Yeah... So what chapter are you fellow f2p player on?

[plain pulsar]

19-16

but then again, ive had the game for quite a bit

[barren crown]

anybody help me with this

[plain pulsar]

u gonna need at least more Legendary & maybe Mythic characters

cuz thats a pretty big power difference

[maiden marsh]

Power means nothing, and they're 20 levels over the enemy anyways

[worn tree]

Does anyone know a good portal party comp

[steady storm]

oh ok, Ill look around the discord, thank you!

[ebon hazel]

To get someone out of the way and give a faction buff, she's not needed anywhere else and anyone else would be useless

Maybe a talene but my main problem with that is not enough damage

[plush dune]

Who should I spend most of my resources on

[knotty sandal]

Help

[smoky anvil]

thanks for the suggestion, I find it that oden with izold just works, it's really weird but oden has really nice damage and cc which helps izold get rolling, as for tasi yeah I was just experimenting with her, will have to try other things out

[barren crown]

help

[safe perch]

oden
ogi
daimon
that wolf one
rowan
try this..

[humble rock]

Who can I use to beat this? Or what lineup 🙏🏽 keep failing

[fair field]

replace ur low tiers with higher ones

[fossil thicket]

any help?

[humble rock]

Uh??????

[fair field]

like lyca and tasi

replace with eironn and rosaline or smth

[humble rock]

Ok

[plucky laurel]

help please

[silent shore]

you have basically brutus for like 5 sec of defense for ainz it's not enough

[plucky laurel]

but I have no replacement

but brutus stays longer than prince and ainz

he doesn't insta-die and his shield keeps him for a while

[silent shore]

i know brutus is good so what im saying is prince shouldn't be used as he's just going to insta die and probably won't even revive with fereal or the machine gun dude. You should try and put in Thoran maybe or even Numisu for his totems. Just experiment with more tanks. The lyca is fine for now I guess, but you don't really have the workings for a good ainz comp so tanks should be a priority

[plucky laurel]

the only reason prince dies is because of vurk

his mines stun prince and therefore he cant do his wall jump

[silent shore]

yea honestly as you move forward at high deficits prince is useless - his only usage imo is in pvp where his stun is incredible. In PVE at these deficits, unless you have omega cc and constant +30 or +20 rowan, he's not gonna be able to do much

[stray canyon]

Any suggestions?

[plucky laurel]

his stuns are almost always good, as long as he is not blocked by a vurk or arden

[plucky laurel]

suggestions with what

[stray canyon]

Any formations

[plucky laurel]

I

I'd say, daimon lucrecia nemora mirael and gywneth

but don't take my word that it will be good

[stray canyon]

I’mma build lucertia when I have the stargazing room

[plucky laurel]

do it only when you have got atleast 10 A tier heroes, E+ twins and mortas

[stray canyon]

Then diamon or Nara or Rowan

[stray canyon]

Alright

Also I need it for the campaign

A new lineup

[plucky laurel]

Lucretia isn't useful until she is mythic

maybe in very early game like you are at

[velvet belfry]

youve fallen into several noob traps. check pinned guides in #classic-questions. stop bring heroes to L, get fodder heroes onto your crystal and level cap them to L+ 160. generally you should only ascend a hero when you have all 8 copies. E+ is usually the highest you go since it doesnt require fodder. by turning all those heroes to L youve locked yourself out of a lot of fodder and have to sit on those heroes until you get copies. as for teams, mirael should be your carry until you can ascend daimon. you can use supports like rowan brutus nemora grez with them. pull for gb whenever you have faction scrolls. stop using shemira, she is a trap.

[stray canyon]

Ik I’ve fallen for it

Also I don’t use shermia, I just lvl her up for the crystal

[stray canyon]

Yes very trash setup

[plucky laurel]

You should bring L tier heroes up for crystal, not shemira which is a A tier

[velvet belfry]

replace her with a fodder hero which you can easily get to L+

[pale kettle]

:(((( cant make ittt

[stray canyon]

That’s what I do

[plucky laurel]

You just said you are bringing her up for crystal

but shemira is not a fodder hero

[pale kettle]

Yes she is

[velvet belfry]

you building thorans SI and furn right? also maybe replace lyca or tasi with silas. cant tell if youre going for thoran or saurus as your carry tho

[plucky laurel]

She is more like a dim bot hero

[stray canyon]

I don’t have a lot of fodder Herod that are L or L+

[pale kettle]

Shemira sucks ass

[plucky laurel]

I know she sucks but she can go up to 5*, while fodder heroes are capped at L+, and she is much harder to get than fodder heroers

[maiden marsh]

Dim bots are niche heroes, not useless heroes.

[pale kettle]

Yes! I was very unlucky cuz i got mythic furn for thane……….

[plucky laurel]

I use shemira as a dim bot

[velvet belfry]

just make sure hes on your wishlist, it will take some time. thorans SI30 is also mandatory

[plucky laurel]

Atleast used till I got ascended belinda and gwyneth

[pale kettle]

Im going for sauras sl20

30*

[velvet belfry]

i would prioritize thoran since hes more applicable for campaign then saurus

[pale kettle]

Left me 2 levels to get sl30 for saurus

[velvet belfry]

ah nvm then

[pale kettle]

Yes 😭

[velvet belfry]

once u get thoran si30 he will become your carry.. tho you need his furn to get it more consistent

[pale kettle]

I food raine too

To ascend my rowan

[maiden marsh]

Thoran is far from an ideal carry for singles

[pale kettle]

Wdym singles

[stray canyon]

Ogi is my only fodder that’s around legendary

[velvet belfry]

thats the closest he has to anyone else built, ideal or not

[plucky laurel]

I think you don't understand what is fodder

[maiden marsh]

Being hard stuck on every thoran or ezizh stage isn't very fun

[stray canyon]

3 moves right?

[plucky laurel]

All of the heroes here are called "Fodder", they are very easy to get and capped at L+, therefore you should use them for crystal and get them to L+ and level 160.

[velvet belfry]

might as well bruteforce a bunch of campaign with it to get diamonds for pulls so he can build more optimal carries

[pale kettle]

Whom is optimal carries?

[plucky laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/872651878041800744/Screenshot_2021-08-05_042618.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/872651878717079582/Screenshot_2021-08-05_042623.jpg
anyone help please

[stray canyon]

“Easy”, I’m not sure about that, I have barely any fodder units that I can, I get like 5-9 green units every 10 draws

Or just rare hero’s that aren’t fodder

[plucky laurel]

Every blue you get from summon is fodder

greens you should do auto-retire

[velvet belfry]

use nara to pull vurk and put that trial hodgkin frontline instead of lyca maybe

[plucky laurel]

let me try

[velvet belfry]

or just put nara in and not hodgkin if you need lyca

but nara will cancel vurk traps so use her for that

[plucky laurel]

nara instead of rowan?

[stray canyon]

All me fodder units also I’m F2P

[velvet belfry]

mmm, keep rowan in and switch out lyca. or try other way around but you prob want rowan there

[plucky laurel]

I keep dying to brutus

but I think its a matter of retries

[velvet belfry]

yeah brutus is counter to underdeveloped ainz comps. it probably is retries

[plucky laurel]

ok done

[stray canyon]

Maybe try thoran?

[plucky laurel]

ainz at position 4 so he damages brutus, and brutus dies fast and gg

[stray canyon]

Also I shouldn’t evolve this right

[silent shore]

oh hell no

[plucky laurel]

ascend hogan or the gun dude

[velvet belfry]

you gonna garrison albedo? i run ainz for my single fights and stuff and hes just unkillable with SI30 albedo

[plucky laurel]

I am saving for merlin

[velvet belfry]

yeah merlin first obv, i also have the mats ready for him

[plucky laurel]

I lost a ton of resources to rehire ainz

[stray canyon]

I did hogan, should I lvl it up for the crystal?

[plucky laurel]

ainz*

[velvet belfry]

i run ain/albedo/nako/rowan/queen but ill switch queen or rowan out for merlin

[plucky laurel]

man if I would just not quit the game for like 4 months I'd probably have ainz and could garrison albedo

[velvet belfry]

yeah i quit for awhile and totally missed POP

[plucky laurel]

but too late now

I started playing 30 days before ainz exchange started

[velvet belfry]

merc a nara and have her cancel mehira bats

[plucky laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/872651878717079582/Screenshot_2021-08-05_042623.jpg

help with this one anyone

[velvet belfry]

lol.. feeling like a broken record but if saf is a problem nara also cancels her field

but idk who you are struggling with

[plucky laurel]

nvm just beat it

zaphrael instead of lyca solved it

[mental nest]

is hodgkin good?

[dusky zinc]

Good looks homie

[velvet belfry]

[mental nest]

so far my lineup is daimon and saurus in the front and oden, rowan, lucius in the back, should i replace anything to put hodgkin?

[velvet belfry]

if youre talking about the trial hero, you can replace lucius at literally no cost, he is not really a useful or essential hero

[mental nest]

ok

what are some other good heros not including celestials and hypogeons

[velvet belfry]

check pins in #classic-questions

[mental nest]

ok

[gaunt sonnet]

help

[worldly apex]

eironn
brutus
lyca
rowan
diamon

see if it works

[silent shore]

When you eironn pull so that daimonn can absorb make sure your'e using lyca so that tasi isn't fast enough to banish

[gaunt sonnet]

he still gets banished tho

[velvet belfry]

he would still get banished if you cant burst tasi immediately. i would sub in your own tasi for counter banish, and def put rowan in there instead of pop or thoran

[formal sundial]

I’m stuck

[velvet belfry]

some basic ideas for you to try:

silas

hodgkin
mirael
daimon
rosa

silas

hodgkin
mirael
daimon
merlin (you should link merlin to thoran)

lyca

titus
mirael
daimon/hodgkin/thoran
merlin

tasi

titus
mirael
lyca
merlin

[formal sundial]

If I use Merlin and thoran together I should link in general?

[velvet belfry]

no, you wouldnt be able to use both of them in the same team. its just so that merlin can be E+ instead of E

if you are actually going to save up or buy merlin you can just link him to fodder

[formal sundial]

Ok thanks you helped a lot

[velvet belfry]

no worries, if any of those teams dont work, you can switch people around and retry or make your own substitutions. it should be some variation of the ones i listed, i think

[formal sundial]

For tidus do I put him in the crystal

[velvet belfry]

titus, not tidus. the big celestial guy you have on trial. tidus is good to get on crystal eventually tho, hes like one of the best maulers easily

[formal sundial]

Oh snap lol ok thanks that makes more sense

[fiery thistle]

How do i beat this? Eironn straight up deletes my entire team

[silent shore]

you should use oden instead of grez cus oden's grouping is useful for daimon

[fiery thistle]

Oh yeah whoops, oden was there instead of grez right before my ss

[silent shore]

also put thoran maybe against he may be a tiny tankier or even try daimon

[velvet belfry]

i find placing nara across eironn in tower is good for interrupting his momentum, but i assume she will die instantly at your ascension. you might be stuck till you get more ascensions, or if you can merc a good izold or thoran 309 they might bruteforce it... you are 110 level deficit so investment in furn and si is the key here

[fiery thistle]

Ooh ok, i think ill have to wait this one out haha

[dusky zinc]

Put thoarn on eironn

Nvm i see he isnt ascended so no furniture

[mellow nacelle]

i’m stuck, need help

[barren crown]

help with this please

[velvet belfry]

nemora (to charm sav or kaz) or rosa (following daimon) instead of cecilia, you can also try ogi frontline (swapping out ceci again), otherwise its probably just retries/waiting out mats to level up your fodder and crystal a bit more so you can unlock more passive boosts. also, dont make anymore champs L. E+ is enough till you get the copies to ascend. daimon and rowan are exceptions if you can get them to M to unlock their SIs

also, read pins in #classic-questions they will give you a lot of tips for progression at your stage

[outer comet]

help me through difficulties

[pale kettle]

Hey guys! I’m a newer player just reaching chapter 13 any tips for progressing? I’m starting to get stuck :/. (Daimon L, Hodgekin M, Rosaline L, Twins E, Rowan E. For my lineup)

[grand perch]

Hello @pale kettle,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[maiden marsh]

Check out the guides pinned in #classic-questions yet?

[silent shore]

No Satrana use Rowan. Your setup is literally 3 carries eironn and a new hero you need to make a formation

[pale kettle]

Yeah I’ve checked them out, doesn’t give much for formations and such

I’ve been following the beginners guide graphic so far.

[velvet belfry]

use rowan instead of belinda or satrana, and if you have nemora you can try to charm ferael. you can also use your nara to hook either nemora or ferael, that always worked for me in that part of the game.

[maiden marsh]

Rosa twins out, try putting in budget supports like lyca/brutus/tasi or even nara.

[pale kettle]

trying that now, appreciate it mate.

[cobalt field]

Can anyone give me a good team idea that will help me clear some stages? Any decent tips will be very appreciated

[outer comet]

thanks for the help

[velvet belfry]

check pinned guides in #classic-questions as you are making heroes L and falling into some early game traps. as for a team id like to see the rest of your box but grez brutus frontline, gwyn nemora rosa backline might be able to get through some stages for you. lyca and tasi will also work for some support options

actually tasi instead of rosa, she is probably too weak to be helpful most of the time

[cobalt field]

Thanks for the tips man🙏

[pale kettle]

Help pls

[storm epoch]

lyca/nara for mehira,ferael for raku(merc+30) if mehira lasts long enough to ult once its enough

[pale kettle]

Im getting deleted lel

[mellow nacelle]

need help. idk if i should mercenary this

[rigid imp]

you want more fodder at L+ to raise total heroes lvl

[dull shoal]

pls help

[sleek delta]

@night musk
Lorsan

Brutus
Rowan
daimon
eironn

[night musk]

Thank you. I’ll try it now.

[sleek delta]

Just put some good gears on eironn, and rowan should dodge some attacks from athalia

[stiff sandal]

Anyone know a good thoran cheese comp?

[magic oriole]

That's a very situational question. It changes every time, but the point is to get everyone in one place and have them all attack thoran

[magic oriole]

Though I can never get thoran cheese to work reliably (thoran's gear and furniture needs to be altered to decrease defensive stats a lot of the time) so I just lucretia cheese on stages that people use thoran cheese

[warm bay]

who should i use? i am at lvl 9-13

[vivid rose]

What's the best team i can do ? please /D

[viral dock]

Can someone help me lineup this fight

[gaunt dragon]

Help plz

[pulsar sedge]

I am stuck :C

[fair field]

try using brutus instead of torne

[eternal badger]

Stuck

[pulsar sedge]

I did ;-;

[fair field]

oh

[pale kettle]

Tasi be like

[maiden vapor]

Daimon
Brutus
Eironn
Thoran
Farael

[pale kettle]

Tasi’s sleep is killing daimon

[maiden vapor]

So is he being banished?

[pale kettle]

Banished sleeped everything

[pale kettle]

He didn’t get banished that round but he normally does

[cerulean atlas]

I’m stuck idk what to do

[digital beacon]

Shud i place them differnt or smth? Keep losing...

[cerulean atlas]

Nvm I got it. No clue how but 20th time the charm ig

[cerulean atlas]

This one I’m actually stuck on. I think I’m underleveled too much

[maiden vapor]

Swap Nara with farael

[vagrant ibex]

@gaunt sonnet
Rowan brutus
Dimon thoran nara

Or

Thoran brutus
Daimon rowan nara

@cerulean atlas
Hogan thoran
Cecilia daimon nara

[gaunt sonnet]

Thx

[vagrant ibex]

@pale kettle
Saurus lyca
Daimon eiron ferael

[glad anvil]

Any help on line up or what to ascend for me?

[outer quiver]

Well since you already L estrilda may aswell L+ her

[silk snow]

What should be replaced / moved

[viral dock]

Need help Fawkess make me lose

@silk snow rowan and thoran

[silver dock]

help?

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[silver dock]

What’s your Rowan’s dodge? @pale kettle

[torpid mesa]

Help

[glad anvil]

thanks

[viral dock]

help pls

[wet jewel]

should i replace someone with mehira?

[gaunt dragon]

Help plz

[reef cedar]

I dont really know what,why ,when or how tk build a good line up

[wet jewel]

i think someone said 3 support in back, a carry, and a tank

its been working really well for me but that might be bc one of my support is desira

[reef cedar]

Ah ok ill try it thx

[gaunt dragon]

Ur top 5 is good. Also why did u upgrade skreg

Reset skreg for now

[north fulcrum]

What about Lucius mate

[cobalt field]

Does anybody have a good team suggestion that can help me beat this stage? The Isabella keeps wiping my team.

[formal sundial]

I have a lot of character that I don’t know who should I be using mir is my carry

@velvet belfry help me with this if you can^

[queen mason]

Use wukong as carry till lv 100. Level him 10 or more levels then the rest

[formal sundial]

Ok but who should I use for my line up

[tiny dagger]

Looking for some help countering this team. Oben is wrecking just about anything I put out.

[outer comet]

help me through difficulties 😇

[mellow nacelle]

what should my lineup be

[stone coyote]

Can someone help me with this

[fiery wing]

someone help me on this one, ogi is soooo annoying just throwing ppl and cc my daimon

[rigid imp]

i got pass that stage with lyca and thoran tank, backline have ferael,arden and daimon then hope ferael and arden will cc 5 enemy simultaneously

ferael in the middle and using call so he can fear before estrilda get rid of him, arden can use anything, thoran use shroud and daimon use grace, ignore lyca cuz she is there only for the haste buff

[sturdy idol]

Have you tried using Brutus as one of your tanks?

[fiery wing]

yuup but still no work

[formal sundial]

Can sm1 help me with my line up^^^^

[sturdy idol]

(I’m not a pro by all means, but this is what I’d do.)

Front: Daimon, Lyca.

Back: Tasi, Silas, Oden.

[languid talon]

https://i.imgur.com/mT9qETk.png https://i.imgur.com/I0YFq0g.png Any help? been on this for a few days tho, dno what to do >_<

[formal sundial]

@sturdy idol nah they all died

[sturdy idol]

Also, did you already read Tree3’s beginners guide?

[formal sundial]

? I don’t thinks so

[sturdy idol]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZLSDhbeAwX8_RU9nJL8RG3oWA0D10QEjuSWpMxx8zg/edit?usp=sharing

This will give you good advice regarding progression.

[silent shore]

What I'd recommend is you go ahead and just link ainz to your izold and use him as your carry maybe? And then use Daimonn as more of a longer-lasting tank/support

[languid talon]

So get Izold to 220 so Ainz is 220, and use him?

[cloud olive]

Could someone please help me with this stage?

[fiery wing]

lmao that was quick

[pale cave]

how to deal with saveas? i don't have really good frontline so he 1 shots anything if he crits.

[silent shore]

The prince engraving making me mad haha

[rigid imp]

put brutus in your wl intead of tidus, after you get one copy switch back

[cloud olive]

😮 Why?

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me with team composition? I’m stuck rn

[silk snow]

What can I do with this

[elfin chasm]

what are you looking for

[pale kettle]

I’m looking for pve, campaign and king tower, I’m at 9-37

[fiery wing]

how to deal with these enemies daimon cant even attack because of stuns, drags, fears just constant bs cc

[elder sand]

hello any advice pls

[spare robin]

You're running with too many carries most likely, Saurus, Oden and Daimon don't synergize that well together

[elder sand]

any advice what 2 change?

[spare robin]

You could try something like this:
Rowan
-- Daimon
Mirael
-- Brutus
Lyca

Hard to make better suggestions without seeing which units you have

[elder sand]

but what u mean synergize? 🙂 i dont understand saurus was instead of brutus cuse saurus is 120 and brutus 100 🙂

[spare robin]

Synergize as in, they don't really improve the performance of each other in a super impactful way, it's a lineup with units that tries to pull in several directions, instead of having them all pull in the same direction

Daimon is an AoE carry, Saurus is a single target carry, Oden is a bit more of a support type that early on

If saurus is more tanky than brutus, use him instead in that slot, sure

[elder sand]

no chance what i do they just explode 2 fast...

im still struggling to take my main5x to 120 then 140 etc but hard 2 get copies

besides those lysted i just got L Nemora and Raku both 100 rest useless, silvina 119

[spare robin]

You should check out the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel as well if you haven't already, it has a few useful tips for the early game.

Particular things you can do to improve significantly:

• Ascend Mirael to L+ as soon as you can, and try to overlevel her all the way to 160 ahead of everyone else
• Avoid ascending the purple border tier units to L
• Replace Saurus with Arden on the resonance crystal
• Replace Oden with Saveas on the resonance crystal

[elder sand]

yeah i plan replace them but i need copies for them 🙂 atm they are E not even E +

[spare robin]

You're struggling with copies because you're using the ascended tier units as your main five levelled units, if you replace them (saurus and Oden in particular, and I assume Nemora?) with fodder tier units, you'll have a MUCH easier time building a full team of five L+ units that can be levelled all the way up to 160

The easiest, most reliable lineup to have as your five levelled units for the crystal pentagram is typically Mirael, Saveas, Arden, Silvina and Hogan

[elder sand]

no i mean i didnt get atm COPIES to lvl those to E+ to put them to crystal 🙂 Arden hogan and saveas are on E 🙂 missingcopies

i started last saturday the game 🙂

[spare robin]

Well, you have spent two E+ units to get Nemora to L, you probably spent a few copies of Arden that could have been L or even L+ instead there

[elder sand]

yeah i didnt know when i started the game how things are >>

[spare robin]

But that's done, can't undo that, you just need to be a bit more mindful as you progress, start building the fodder tier units and you'll start having an easier time levelling up in the near future

Understandable, the game does a really poor job at conveying the importance of being careful with earlygame ascenscions, almost everyone falls into that trap

[elder sand]

yeah and i dont want start all over new account cuse i got allready the heroes i want like Daimon rowan oden etc

[spare robin]

Try to focus on building Mirael and Arden in particular at least, the two of them are really strong in the earlygame

[elder sand]

yeah just waiting copies for them nothing else left 2 do

[spare robin]

Yeah, no need to restart, people recover from way worse starts than that one, your account is looking just fine

Just keep logging in and doing events etc, you'll get the units you need soon enough

[spare robin]

No idea how good Hodgkin is so I can't really say anything about him, if he works well as a tank, keep him in there.
Cecilia doesn't do a lot there, replace her with Arden, he is a crowd control monster
Adding Lyca to speed up Daimon and get his ultimate snowball going can help a lot too

[spare robin]

Might also be worth trying with Daimon on the backline. He looks like the most tanky pile of beef there by far, so he might work fine on the frontline, but if he gets killed before he gets the snowball rolling, it's better to put him on the backline so he has time to carry.

Daimon
--Brutus
Arden
--Hodkin
Lyca

For example? Bank on the overpowering carry-power from daimon instead of trying to win through a sustain fight with silas

[fiery wing]

its ok now passed through chapter hmm about hodgkin.. if the rng lets him to survive to use his ult he could be a game changer because of his fear especially the right timing canceling ults, but mostly he cant be a meat shield unlike brutus or thoran, but mostly i used hodgkin more because it works most of the time but if he expires i wont bother using brutus too my only goal rn is to reach my crystal to 160 so my brutus can immune to 7 secs because my supports are underleved now

[spare robin]

Trial units can be pretty nice powerspikes for a few days yeah, they come with a bit of extra firepower through SI levels and even furniture effects later on, so using them to push a bit while you have the chance - when they actually help you do it - is definitely worth it

[elder sand]

the moment my tidus expired everything went down the drain :))))

[south folio]

Any advice? Been playing the game on and off, never really serious.

[spare robin]

You're running with a lot of (or well.. all of them to be exact) off-meta, weaker units there, but that's fine enough if you just want to casually progress.

Might still be worth taking a look at the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel, ascending too many units to L in particular is a big trap, it's always better to focus on ascending one single unit per faction all the way to A instead, one by one.

Silvina doesn't do much in that situation, better to replace her with either some bulky frontliner, or more cc power like Tasi for example.

Take out either Shemira or Belinda and focus on boosting the power of one of them, instead of using both. Rosaline might be a good replacement, helping them spam ultimates faster

Hard to give much more advice without seeing all your units

[frosty gazelle]

How do I beat this? Do I need Fawkes?

[south folio]

thats true, I actually got all of the champs you mentioned. just kinda hard to get the dupes to level it up

will try tho! thanks for the advice 🙂

[magic oriole]

No, you need shroud on gwyn

[supple tusk]

what's a good pve lineup?

[vagrant ibex]

Daimon is a gud carry

[supple tusk]

should I try to get him to mythic?

[vagrant ibex]

Ascended if you can

Put brutus on to crystal it might help you progress

[torn pier]

Is this lineup okay? From analytics, Grezhul seems to be doing the least.

[spare robin]

Grezhul is just a meatshield at that stage of the game, so him doing the least damage is fine, he's not there to do damage.

Wukong will slowly start falling behind soon, so be prepared to replace him. Mirael is a fantastic replacement as your main damage dealing carry.

Rowan is solid.

Safiya is a bit niche even at that stage, she can probably do ok damage, but she's mostly useful at countering assassins and other units that dive on top of you, like Silvina, Athalia, Tidus, etc

Out of the units you've got right there, Arden is the perhaps most important one that you want to start building up, replacing safiya with him will be better. Daimon might be a better meatshield and secondary carry than Grezhul/Wukong as well

If you haven't already, take a look at the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel and copy the recommended wishlists for the tavern summons, it looks like you might have some low priority units on it. (Lucius, Respen, Antandra, Satrana, Solise, Nemora and Seirus in particular shouldn't be on them yet, if they are)

[twilit junco]

Please help guys. What I'm doing wrong. Oden always in astral of tasi

[spice sail]

Im stuck if anyone can help

[pale kettle]

Help needed pls

[pale kettle]

Try 1 daimon. 2 Lucius. 3 ainz 4 Rowan 5 talene I don’t know if it will work but u can try

[fair field]

stuck on this

[cloud olive]

Could someone please help im stuck on this stage

[whole bramble]

help please

[plucky laurel]

This shemira just ults after 7 seconds and destroys all my team

[upper fog]

Any help? Do I miss something? Am I to low? Or just bad?

[compact plover]

Brutus, Thoran, Daimon, Eironn, Ferael

[rigid imp]

eh using ferael to fight against tasi is not a good decision imo

[pale kettle]

fera is one of the best options vs tasi

[worldly apex]

im getting my nuts wrecked by this stage, any helpers

[pale kettle]

You shouldnt be too low, I think that stage is just a pain in general. You will either have to brute force it or merc it. Thoran Daimon, Nara (with good gear) Eerion Fera might work though. If you are fine mercing I would grab a 309 eerion merc

hello guys, i'm at chap11-25, i used Mirael leg+ as a carry until now but i'm stuck
I could ascend Shemira to Mythic with leg+ but everyone is saying that she's not that good, so i'm saving for some other hero. Any tips for pve team?

[nova island]

is lucretia good for early-mid game? (12-14)

[worldly apex]

no, also thats very early game still

[pale kettle]

i'm using:
top back Vedan
Mid back Mirael
Low back Shemira
Top front Brutus
Low Front Hodgkin

[fervent parrot]

Please i need help i just want to finish this chapter

[pale kettle]

I need help please

[summer cedar]

run a daimon comp. check the site for ideas

[summer cedar]

need to nara/atha the mehira. tasi and ezizh suck for rng. try the site

[summer cedar]

double edged sword actually. the spirits trigger tasi's blink a lot. fera's a great ally in most sets but he also helps enemy tasi in a sense

[pale kettle]

I suppose, I usually find that the benefit he provides outweighs the detriments as mine takes the banish but still provides value through spirits but yea I didnt think of that

[languid talon]

https://i.imgur.com/Uuz3aih.png https://i.imgur.com/Vv4m2QI.png Any ideas?

[stone coyote]

Stuck on this

[silent shore]

you alrdy have shemira gwyneth is useless you can utilize raine for ult disrupt too

[stone coyote]

Still defeated when i swap gwen for rain

[silent shore]

i'm assuming that isabella is the one destroying your team right? you should go ahead and take daimon to legendary+ cuz he's gonna be a lot more useful even than bot shemira rn

[shy harness]

pls help my thoran cheese is broken

[stone coyote]

Yeah but if I wanted id have to use one main hero to ascend him, cause I have 2 fer, silvina, izold and the extra daimon for L+ i’d prob need one more fodder

[silent shore]

oh then don't for now, just wait for food, but shemira is kinda useless until a certain point and daimon will likely carry you way more

[stone coyote]

Yeah true I didn’t know that starting off and kinda messed up just acsending whoever was available

[silent shore]

all good, eventually you can use your shemira as a link for a dimensional in the future or swap scroll her if you continue to build

[meager aspen]

Can i thoran cheese this stage if yes with which line up?

[fossil thicket]

any ideas?

[gaunt dragon]

Any help?

[brave oriole]

@gaunt dragon you would need nemora to charm ferael . Also Brutus should be better up

[gaunt dragon]

I beat that one, any help with this?

[brave oriole]

Dunno how good the new hero is, replace it with lyca

[gaunt dragon]

Ok

[dusty spade]

Who should I make as my carry right now

[sturdy idol]

Can you send a picture of your other heroes as well?

[thorn bramble]

Sorry for asking but is there a photo of the formations for hogkins trial ?

[pale kettle]

HELP

[brave oriole]

Just Google the trial name

[thorn bramble]

Oh ok! Thanks xperta :)

[pale kettle]

Help needed

[pale kettle]

Hello everyone, i tried posting before but didn't get any answer, i'm trying again
I'm at chap 11-35
I'm using Mirael Leg+ as main carry in mid back, Shemira and Estrilda in the back, Brutus and Vedan in the front, but got stuck, any tips for pve formation?

these are my heroes as to now (i could ascend Shemira to Mythic but everyone is telling me not to)

[stable frigate]

any suggestions?

[pale kettle]

getting rowans si to 30 would be a massive help

[brave oriole]

Better daimon tbh

[empty tapir]

Is it possible for me to do this stage?

[still grail]

what should i do with this (i can reset some of my stuff and apply it to others for better lineup)

[brave oriole]

Since Saurus it's a, why do you push Brutus lvls? Leave him 160, and push Saurus I guess

[empty tapir]

Does it really matter? Those 5 are in the crystal and they all need to level for the crystal to go up, or so i thought? @brave oriole

[silent shore]

Yea but if your'e going to increase a heroe's level why would you want to increase Brutus of all the heroes. More levels = more power and brutus doesn't do damage he's just for tankiness. Saurus is a pretty decent warrior hero and has some descent damage at lower stages

[empty tapir]

Yes exactly, I just need him to survive, cause my daimon is already +20 and rowan at +26 so i just need daimon ability to pop off a few times but if its better to level saurus i can level him, I don't really use him @silent shore

I read that saurus only has use within TR

[silent shore]

he does but you have like no other options and he is also your only ascended hero so you might as well

[empty tapir]

I need more mauler fodder then i can make brutus to A so i was just going to prepare him to 180 but i guess ill level saurus instead

[silent shore]

I mean I have Brutus Ascended too but Imma be real with you his only real use for me is in mauler tower and even there he kinda sucks. I'm only trying to build him up right now so in the future I'll swap scrol him hopefully

[empty tapir]

It's just that saurus dies too fast and i really need his 3 sec invincibility for daimon to do anything

[brave oriole]

Just overlvled Saurus, and you good

Brutus e or a, doesn't make a diff

[empty tapir]

ok thanks alot, should i get his SI to +10?

[pale kettle]

kinda does, at 203 he gets a decent chunk of extra immunity time but other than that nothing else too spectacular

[silent shore]

his big use is at his +30 which is pretty crazy but even so, it's TR and some niche usage

[cold peak]

Could anyone help me with my team and telling me who to use

[velvet belfry]

daimon mirael lucius(or hogan) nemora flex will be good until you get more units, refer to the pinned information in #classic-questions for heroes to prioritize building

by flex i mean just picking a different champ depending on stage (in your case any of your e+: saurus safiya shemira wukong respen golus vedan angelo morvus)

[small wedge]

How does my lineup look, would you all recommend I switch anyone out with what I currently have in my collection?

Update — just got Brutus and Pippa, as well as my Vedan and Ira are elite tier now, let me know thanks! 😀

[edgy lotus]

Which Mauler should I ascend next? Struggling with Mauler tower. Currently at floor 224.

[brave oriole]

Kren it's vital

[worldly apex]

still getting rolled here any help would be appreciated

[brave oriole]

I dunno , try to dodge athalia with lyca maybe @worldly apex

[pastel birch]

My current comp is holding its own, but I’m wondering if theres a better one atm

Its currently Thoran/rowan/PoP/eironn/ainz, in that order, but I’m wondering who to switch eironn for, besides lyca when ascended

[small zenith]

what is the best team i could make? i am stuck on chapter 11-10 and need help

[maiden marsh]

@fierce viper

This only uses alna but you're on your own for r3 if you don't have a luc.

[fierce viper]

r3 isn't the issue for me

I can't figure out how to beat either flora comp with no merc

[trail raven]

stuck rlly bad

[maiden marsh]

Do my alna clear with a merc for r1 and thoran r2

E30 flora tho

[fierce viper]

It's honestly really good for the crit

90% crit, it cleared the flora for me on 35-44 no merc

[maiden marsh]

Flora crits don't matter though lol

[fierce viper]

They do for the signature item. Also she did like 30m damage

[maiden marsh]

I suppose if you want to use flora carry her sig and engravings are good. Cele tower exists after all

[fierce viper]

That's was the main reason I did it

I figure she'll always carry that for me

[pale kettle]

you could try r1 with dims+silas by getting silas ult on ainz since you don't have a grez for alna, or finish your alna and merc a grez

[maiden marsh]

Later in cele tower you'll need a burst carry like ath/morael/zaph but who cares about that anyways

[trail raven]

???

[fierce viper]

@pale kettle That's interesting, I didn't think about dims for this. I could play around with that

[maiden marsh]

What deficit are you?

[fierce viper]

@maiden marsh lv 337 vs 460, so 123

[maiden marsh]

Yeah ainz'll roll flora at that gap

[pale kettle]

something like this for example

[fierce viper]

I've got 300 spare reds, I could +30 him right away, but I wanted to save those for albedo

[trail raven]

is this a decent ainz comp?

[maiden marsh]

Owait no albedo complicates things a lil

[fierce viper]

Yeah... I've been avoiding doing the double garrison, and I only have to resource Ainz one more time

[pale kettle]

oh yeah I somehow missed that since you had other dims

[fierce viper]

I just missed those when I started. Didn't understand how good they were

[trail raven]

how i thought they were good together?

[fierce viper]

They are. I just don't have albedo yet. Which is extremely weird for a ch 35 player

[maiden marsh]

Not talking to you

[trail raven]

oh sorry

[pale kettle]

I would really try to get that double garrison cause trying to push 35 without ainzbedo or raku really makes things difficult

[maiden marsh]

You could try nara across ferael to stop him draining your energy

[fierce viper]

@pale kettle Would you give up challenger coins or getting Merlin for it?

[maiden marsh]

Definitely do not pass up merlin.

[pale kettle]

challenger coins sure but definitely not merlin

[fierce viper]

I guess I could wait until after the exchange, then double garrison for one month. I'm just hoping I can pass 35 before mysty valley ends. 2000 Poe coins is a lot to me rn

[small zenith]

any improvements i could make?

[mellow nacelle]

i am stuck please help

[halcyon drum]

Try attaching Rosaline to Daimon

If that doesn’t work, try Saveas for factional advantage (and maybe level him and Silvina to 160 when you can?)

I’m struggle bussing on chapter end. Oden drops Kaz on Ul’mus 😒

Here’s my available roster

[pale kettle]

I need a hand

[teal jolt]

Hey all, I'm getting back into the game and I'm curious what might be a good team to target for campaign progress? It seems like Lucian isn't as great as I remember. I think I've heard a Rowan, gwyth, rosaline team? Who else do I put in on that?

[chilly sentinel]

Been stuck here for a few days im getting absolutely crushed by the ogi and niru not too sure what to do

[rigid imp]

can someone from <@&545792117956673538> eliminate this please, thanks

[unborn mason]

ty

[midnight bronze]

[pale kettle]

Hi there ! What PvE team can I do with those ?

[halcyon drum]

Anyone able to help with this one? I’d like to end this chapter 😖

[brave oriole]

Why don't you 220 daimon?

[foggy apex]

Any Idea?

[chilly sentinel]

Try swapping out hodgkin for brutus if he has good gear

[foggy apex]

The problem is daimon that die and can't use his definitive

Ok nvm daimon beast mode

[mellow nacelle]

i need help

[mortal atlas]

Please help, been stuck here for like 5 days. This has been a terribly tricky level

[timid tulip]

How do I beat these two. Ill gladly use mercs cuz its end of the week anyways. They just havent worked so far. Only merc really that I havent tried which is used in other replays is Alna but no access to one and I doubt anyone has one this time of week

I dont see why Alna should be necessary tho since most replays dont use her but none of the others even get close to working for me.

[halcyon drum]

Short on essence, I just ascended and got him to 200 today, I'm at like 7k now

Gonna suck if I have to wait to level him for this 😖 but if that's what I gotta do, it's what I gotta do

[brave oriole]

Just reset something back to 180

[halcyon drum]

OH RIGHT I CAN DO THAT.

[brave oriole]

Safiya or smthing else

[halcyon drum]

Alright, it's gotta be Shamira, Safiya or Gwyneth

I guess I'll reset Gwyn. I have been tending towards using Safiya with Brutus and Flora for the full house bonus

[brave oriole]

What ever doesn't fit. For towers, just pick a day and overlvl x faction carry

[halcyon drum]

Still losing. Tasi neutralizes the carries early and then they can't out-DPS Nemora when the rest of the team falls off

Eyyyyyy wediddit

Finally got a situation where Daimon reset after getting a kill with ult on, AND Safiya dropped a bomb to out-burst the heals. Thanks ❤️

22-6 is like the same fight but with Grezhul instead of Arden 😂

[fiery wing]

swap fereal with oden and let the rng do its work

[molten moon]

I am in ch31.
I currently own the following Si and furn
Daimon 203 - Rowan 300 - Ferael 203 - Lyca200 - Tasi 153 - Albedo 303 - Ainz 309 - Oden 203 - Izold 103.

The posted guide recommends working on Thoran first, he is in wishlist but have 0 furn pieces for him.

1. If i wanted to get a third team working and My lucretia will maybe not be ready yet, can I work on Izold 30?
2. Need three more arthur fragments, i am a little worried about how to build my Ainz team, only have PoP as third dim, until merlin appears at least.

My Daimon team usually was
Daimon
Rowan
Ferael
Brutus
Oden

Or variations.
Maybe i could use Lyca now that she can boost Daimon damage and give Ferael or Oden to Ainz?

[digital skiff]

#classic-questions

[tepid pier]

What can I do against these overleveled Isabellas? Mostly I struggle on levels against her. Once she ults all dead 😫

[outer comet]

Help me😟

[deft rain]

Switch Talene and Grez, put Lyca instead of Grez
If that doesn't work try to play a little with Oden and Mehira, you can try replacing Talene with Brutus and putting him in front of Daimon too

[leaden glacier]

Hmmm is this the best i could do for lct?

[maiden marsh]

Hard to say without a box

[pale kettle]

Whats my best lineup?

[rigid imp]

rowan,daimon,wukong,tasi and brutus
and you should read the beginner guide at stop making L hero early game

[pale kettle]

Ya it was a stupid choice I made

[pale kettle]

In which order should I put them?

[spiral gazelle]

I bombed the whole chapter rn but got stuck on the last one

[pale kettle]

How do I get ains?

[spiral gazelle]

I garrisoned him

[pale kettle]

How do I do that

[digital skiff]

Go to friends and tap Garisson@pale kettle

[digital skiff]

Why are you using ainz and daimon

[pale kettle]

I don't have any friends i can hire from it says

[spiral gazelle]

Worked for the whole chapter up to this point 🤷‍♂️

[spiral gazelle]

Try joining a guild, I garrisoned mine from a guild mate

[pale kettle]

I did it atill says noone had him

[spiral gazelle]

Try to add a end game player in the in-game public chat, they can garrison it to u

[pale kettle]

Ok thanks

[digital skiff]

Because you're mad overlevelled and ainz is 9f

No hate tho, build bedo and where's your rowan?

[pale kettle]

How to kill an enemy hero within 10 seconds ?

Ive mostly tried eironn pulling Thali but hasn't been quick enough

Oop got it with this

What lineup do i use im stuck and I can't beat the stage I'm on

Make daimon your lvl 120 instead of Brutus? Without seeing what you've been trying

[leaden glacier]

He cant his daimon is only e

[pale kettle]

Oh thoutnit was +

Ya I stupidly made Brutus L

[leaden glacier]

Its alright focus on getting mirael as your carry since an elite daimon wont do anything

[pale kettle]

So use mirael instead of diamonds til I can ascend him?

[leaden glacier]

Yes

[pale kettle]

Alright

[digital skiff]

309 athalia thay thali

[deft rain]

Can't see your reply lol
Edit: now I can see it after updating my discord lol, you are welcome

[brave oriole]

Try Brutus front of Vedan. Maybe add lyca also for the haste. So I dunno try something like Brutus rowan, lyca daimon tasi

[ember steppe]

don’t have luca

[brave oriole]

Only need an elite

[ember steppe]

don’t have

[brave oriole]

Then i dunno, find a replacement, what ever it works

[rigid imp]

isn't the game give you a free lyca after completing chapter 13 ?

[ember steppe]

oh yeah

still doesn’t work i died

[brave oriole]

Keep moving around but keep the Frontline. I usually put chalice on rowan, call daimon

Maybe your daimon is gear less, I dunno, you should invest everything on daimon, gear si etc

[ember steppe]

daimon has mythic gear

[brave oriole]

Enchanted?

[rigid imp]

maybe use tasi instead of silas and lyca for the buff isntead of grez

[ember steppe]

yes max level

[brave oriole]

Then keep trying with lyca tasi daimon Backline, it's just rng

[ember steppe]

ok

[pastel heron]

Any idea how I can cc this Fawkes for like 5 seconds? He keeps taking my Daimon out for the whole battle :(

[rigid imp]

possible if you have nara

[gaunt dragon]

Any ideas? Brutus basically kills everyone when he goes invincible

[worldly apex]

nara hook farael

[valid python]

Just got some new heroes and i need help. This is my lineup should i change some of em? Or stick to them? If yes who should i build?

[pale kettle]

what hero should I work on next? I need heros that can go higher than L+

[zealous iron]

Why do you have two L iras

[karmic shore]

@valid python eironn back middle

[pale kettle]

I get a lot of them and I accidently acended one to L when I could have made them L+ to acend tasi

[dense ingot]

This is my composition, my idea is to change Rosaline for Merlin, my carry is Daimon, can I also use Ainz in the same composition to have double carry or is it better to have only 1?

[valid python]

Okay

[ancient relic]

What should my comp be?

[high marlin]

Put Brutus on your crystal and use him as your tank

[ancient relic]

To clarify u are talking to me right?

[high marlin]

Yes

[ancient relic]

Okay thx for the fast respond

[ember steppe]

i’m stumped

i’ve even tried alna

[high marlin]

Don't frontline diamon, especially in front of a fereal

[ember steppe]

then what

like what should my formation be

fine then

[high marlin]

You can try: Tasi, Brutus, Diamon, Rowan, Silas

[ember steppe]

alr ty

instant death

[ripe portal]

i am stuck on this level, any advice ? Or should i just wait to improve my team ?

[ember steppe]

worse than my other formations

[high marlin]

Look on afk helper then for ideas

[ember steppe]

i tried

[high marlin]

You'll rarely beat a stage in 1 try, part of the game is rng so either keep trying different formations or wait and collect more xp to level up

[ripe portal]

it's fine i did the stage cause i am beautifully sexy

[small zenith]

any line up help??? stuck on 11-14

[unborn jasper]

Get rid of pippa and nara the Arden?

[small zenith]

swap pippa for nara??

[unborn jasper]

Yes

[small zenith]

i did and i died faster xd

[unborn jasper]

but put nara mid so that allies don't get rooted