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would you say HCP raku before tasi then?
I’m so close to being able to stargaze
You're not going to be gazing that much for a long time tho, you'll be using cards only for a while
I know but even the chance to get the twins is making me wanna do it
imo yes, although raku can start to hit like a truck at M +30, he hits like a semi trailer at A 303 i think
I have 10 cards
can u post a pic of the stage, what ur using and ur box?
Any tips?
I see, it'll take a month or so since I need HCP/MV for 4 copies; I'll start saving reds again when Oden is done
daimon to si 20, you can try arden instead of oden or rowan as well
He's 13 for now
brutus in the front and daimon in the back is always a nice try
oh that stage, its a pretty big pain. Maybe try switching eerion and lyca. If that doesnt work try lyca at 1 and daimon at 3
also, talene won't help much if she dies too quickly
Nope…that didn’t work
Until I can borrow a good joker merc, I think I’m stuck…which sucks
what happened? also why do u want a joker merc theres way better ones
I dunno…someone told me a joker merc would be helpful for that stage
these stages benefit from heavy CC like tasi, ferael, prince
Everyone died too quick and it’s always game over if Isabella gets her ult up which she has a barrier in this stage for some reason
I have none of those 3
I want to complete ch 13 so bad :(
eironn in the middle maybe
https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=15&stage=40
Have you tried the team comps here? If it doesn't work, it might be just a matter of leveling up
grez is shielding isabella and he steals stats so maybe put daimon opposite to niru
I dotn have the heros for the comps
wasnt for you, was for @boreal hazel
Ah ok sorry
Some of those comps use heroes I don’t have or are much stronger than me
Then you might need to level up a bit. From what i've seen, the lowest level that beat was at a base lvl 140 and carry 160 with a nice lineup.
Nuts…that’ll take forever
you're at over 2x combat rating deficit, which is huge at this point in campaign
you're already progressing quite nicely
Lvling up 2 units to lvl 140 is gonna take forever ugh
I really want Tasi but she just won’t come home for me
My most desired unit in the game is the twins though. They’re so cute
It's normal. Just have your wishlist set and hope for the best.
i need to borrow a merlin to complete misty Valley, can someone help me plz? mess up his free trial
go to #mercenary
thx
I have merlin
Need to clear 8-29 with any of these cant pass it
post the stage
mirael in back mid, if that doesnt work try shemira
@pale kettle both tries didnt work... Wu Kong dies within like 5 secs but idk who to replace him with
how do I stop isabella from ulting
https://gyazo.com/d1e7324c23870a1263a4c0d1c8edb7ad
u have to try multiple times (50~100) 
@pale kettle whaaaaaat
nara her
no nara
You are only at chapter 8 and you have the twins already? I’m so jealous!!!
@boreal hazel yeah got it from a summon! are they good?
Yeah they’re really good and super cute
idk then srry, might just need to wait for levels
They’re my most wanted unit in this game
is there no other option than nara
cecelia might also work
@boreal hazel good luck on getting them then! Ill give them a try for sure
I’m trying to beat chapter 15 so I can stargaze for a better chance to get them
First stargaze try is garantied
Wait wait seriously? Even with cards?!
Yes
AHHHHHH!!! So as soon as I beat chapter 15 I can get my twins!
First 10 pull
Yup I have 10 cards ready
Sweet
Ahhhh I’m even more motivated and desperate to beat chapter 15 now lol
i am so lost on what to do, first off yes im stuck. but besides from that i have so many heroes that I can ascend, but im not sure what i should be going for
people don’t seem to use maulers in the ladder, it’s typically celestials, graveborns, lightbearers and wilders. it makes me question if i shouldn’t be investing in maulers and forward into something else?
for ascensions, i can get a legendary tier sauras and gwyenth. iirc sauras is really good and im not sure about gwyenth. should i hold off on her? i can ascend my kren to legendary+ IF i can get another mauler fodder as well. (my kren is simply just epic+ right now with another duplicate)
im so sorry for a text wall 😭 im just lost as to what I should do, i want to be prepared for later on as typically these games become punishing if done incorrectly
Im not sure if kren is a good carry u should ask about him in #classic-questions
Stuck tried maybe 50 times
yup yup for sure
Wat is a solid team to work towards to get you threw the chapters
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Suggestion stop making legendary heroes that wastes so much fodder
Anyway [front row thoran and Rowan] [back row Belinda Rosa (following Belinda) and twins]
Daimon comp when I get the copies
Then swap Belinda with daimon just you won’t get faction bonus
And if you want it swap twins with fareal but not recommended for me
I got told to work towards this
I got my twins! So happy!!!
any tips?
lyca/safiyah for pop, don't waste more emblems on chicken SI
You'll probably need nara to pull mehira before her bats
put Thoran on Daimon spot and Nara on Oden spot
you can also Swap Lucius for Brutus
May I get some tips on who to build and where to place them?
I can also show who else I have if needed
Build daimon
You need some tanks
I see u got grezhul use him and level him up
Use him instead of morvus
Alright, thank you!
Suggestions?
Make sure to take heroes off wishlist when you have 8 copies/enough for white border.
Oh, good call and thank you. I’ll do that now
Sure thing. You’ll get stars randomly from purple stones
Done! Awesome info. Should I focus on any I have now?
Based on what you have now, I’d give saurus a +30 signature item, so you at least have a decent carry to push. There are better carries in the game but (aside from Merlin) saurus is the only hero you have ascended worth a +30 right now.
Furniture takes a long time to get so you can decide from this guide which ones you want to wishlist. Any of the 4 main faction heroes you can wishlist for furniture before they get ascended and not have to worry it’ll take you long to ascend them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/mc774q/visual_guide_to_furniture_priorities_indepth_by/
I am +26 now so close. I have 3/3 for Saurus atm
Anything to be done here or am I just too low lvl
I’ll check the guide for sure!
Depends on who is doing the most damage I'm guessing Saveas? or maybe Kaz w her poison. A good go-to strat is just to put Eironn in 4 for the pull and have Daimonn just wipe the floor with them. you could try that, but it's going to be hard with CC since they have heavy tank presence. Try and utilize heroes such as Nara/Eironn to pull the backline damage dealers towards you
Awesome thanks made it to the next boss, but now something is interrupting Eironn pull so he just walks forward and dies.
It may be the front tanks I'm not too sure but maybe try and put Eironn up top left at 3 to pull the MIrial and use Daimon at position 1 swapping with Brutus? Again this formation is all up to interpretation and can be mixed up
Isabella again
You should switch Daimonn and Thoran cuz you wanna be sucking the Isabella into your Daimonn not someone like Thoran who is just going to feed her energy. Or put Daimonn in 4 and put Saurus in 2 for damage
My plan with thoran was to scare issa while daimon dealt with everyone else but that ain’t working so I’ll try that
I was really close think with better rng I will be able to do it thanks!
Actually I don’t kill issa fast enough
Never mind I won
I pulled Gwyneth and cecilia. What should change
Still very new and need more help
Can you show your enemies ?
Not for anything specific, just for the overall game play
Well this game is not 1 team beat all
I’m trying to make four teams for chapter 35 and I can figure out how best to balance the teams. Any help would be appreciated
idk what kinda team to use. im at chapter 12 and just need a general comp. any suggestions appreciated
Any ideas? 5 pull Luc on team 1
rowan frontline maybe? that way ur izold inst getting insta deleted
hmm izold mid back goes into warek, on left back saveas one shots him too
does thoran have barricade? you might be able to put thoran in for brutus and hope he taints someone and gets em low enough to be killed by izold
yessir
Taint goes on brutus fml
rip
any reason your daimon isnt 203? also you might wanna look at the endgame pve guide in reddit. Its a bit old as it doesnt have raku but other than that its pretty solid
Everyone using eironn and stuff on team 2, team 1 is so easy for 5 pull, other teams are really rng too
Ok I’ll check it out. And no reason I just got back into playing the other day and upgraded her and haven’t used her yet
WHAT SHOULD I CHOOSE? XD
nara if you don't have a copy yet, if you do, take scrolls and pull graveborn
oh gotcha thanks i'll select here ^^
How do I beat this stage with this box
didn't you get nara? She's in a hero choice chest that's given pretty early; she's really good to nullify isabella (the mage girl)
I’m not there yet I need more Elites
reset titus and daimon, try to get your mirael to lvl120
you can reset wukong for daimon after, doesn't matter too much
Ok
I tried that but I’m not able to
I'm not really sure how to help without nara then, isabella can be really powerful as an enemy
Can anyone suggest how I can beat this stage? I've been stuck on it for almost a week now...
Help i get absolutely demolished
make shemira and/or izold 200 and level daimon to 240
Lyca
Thoran/Golus (the tankier one)
Rowan
Daimon
Oden
Ok I'll try, but they get one shot
Trying to block the burst damage as much as possible on top side but put Daimon into Grez attack
If your Daimon can survive in front of Estrilda that’s better but I doubt it
Oh unless Oden grabs her before she kicks Daimon
Then you just want to switch top and bottom of what I said
Need help creating a better set up.
Maybe try to put daimon in the back so he won’t die so easily, I rarely use him front
Try checking the pinned guides at #classic-questions. You shouldn't be using 5 carries at the same time
I need help this fight is tilting me
Stuck here, renting is an option, artifact recommendation as well please.
https://i.imgur.com/pQmHkWT.png Any ideas on how to get through it? Tried everything I can think off, and only have 1x more Merc use this week, and I think I might need it at 13-40
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try
daimon
thoran
lyca
talene
nara
at this point u should usually be using daimon in the back row
Yea, I just had to try him front row cuz everyone else died too fast u know
Idk how to beat this stage
Wow how did you push?. My heroes are lvl 252 am stuck in chapter 28
a ton of retries
These are my cards what should I do
What's lvl your si and furniture of daimon?
si 20 and 0 furn rn
grade +30 si, daimon worth it
why? there are higher priorities and either way he takes too much damage for that to be worth in early game
Can i have some help ?
try
daimon
thoran
eironn
brutus
lyca
it is worth but its not a top 10 si
actually swap lyca with farael
yeah, but daimon top-1 dd until multi fights
30 chapter, without much retries
daimon doesn't need it though, usually the first 30s you want to give to heros who really really want them, not heros that are already op at just 20. I got to 30 with a 220 RC and 203 Daimon so 
daimon op, so much stats from +30 si, haven't any hero, who can push campaign as good a daimon on early game. on my mind he worth it
but his +30 doesnt give stats
haste from +25?
its accuracy i think for 25, the 30 is good because it reduces the downtime between bloodshields, its very nice but a luxury thats why I am against daimon 30 as top 10 SI
u can see,also i have another hero with +30
bcs +30 on eironn or saurus weaker on campaign
oblivious in Rowan
saurus 30 is not reccomended at all for new players and imo eerion isnt a top 10 +30 either imo although some ppl will put him there
yeah, but this list of heroes standart. saurus using on farming bosses, eironn from 5pull. another +30 si heroes is probably hard to get (Lucretia as a rule)
plus important thing on choosing heroes +30 si is your playstyle
you can merc a saurus for bosses but ig whatever makes you happy go for it since it is after all a game (althouth I wouldnt reccomend suggesting sub optimal 30s to new players though).
Saw a lot of thoran cheese on r1, but in your RC you can brute force that fight
I mean daimon 30 is negligible at this point compared to the gain in power from raku, ainz, albedo, Thoran, Rowan, Oden, and others
I don't sure about suboptimal 30, bcs daimon must have +30 on end game
I have the following si atm:
Daimon20, Ferael 20,oden 20, rowan30, Ainz 30, albedo 28 (30 asap), Tasi 15, safi 20, gwyn10, and im in ch29.
I wanted to try and be as prepared for multi fights as possible.
I was thinking about building Izold and Silas as next SIs, but ive read that Izold isnt super great going later.
I dont have enough Thoran copies as you might imagine.
Should i just stick to building an Izold comp next?
Silas only needs fodder for A
Doesn't work
try swap lyca on eironn
You already have 2 carries in daimon and ainz. Maybe wait until you get 300 reds again then decide
Makes sense, thanks @sleek delta . 31-60 is the first three team fight?
No, 33-4
i wouldnt worry about izold falling off, thats only for mega hard pushers who are pushing at pretty high deficits
^ (sorry if i pinged u that was an accident)
All good
Yeah, the guide i referred to was indeed oriented for very high deficit pushing. I will try to stockpile red chests and then re-assess . My only concern was about the furniture, that takes a long time in my experience, that is why i am trying to anticipate a bit.
If you happen to have izold on furn wl and got him 3f before you accumulate 300 red, might as well build him.
All clear, thanks both, i will keep these two lineups and go decisively for a third one once i have more red chests
What lineup i can use ?
What trials should I get to get trials 36? These are only my best heroes. I really need that Longbow.
36 might be kinda hard without Ainzbedo, You might be able to use saurus cycle but idk for sure with that box
Ok. thank you.
Help me please
whats the main problem?
The main problem is that the whole enemie team wrecks me in an instant
Maybe bc they are double as high combat power as me lol
is ferael getting his fear off?
Well yeah but doesn’t help bc I don’t survive 5 secs
I think I gotta go AFK for like a month and then try again.. it’s a massacre for my enemies and I just can’t see it anymore, pls don’t Tell me stuff like, yeahhhhh get all si up to 100 tho u arent mythic with them!!
The AFK rewards get me like 1 gold emblem in one week so bruh
I can tell u 100% you wont be stuck for a month, You also get a lot of gold emblems from events and such and even as tower rewards the more u progress and u might be able to buy some as well (dont buy too many though). How geared is Daimon and Rowan?
Can i have some help for this lvl pls
Just wait till Weekley reset
Also get more acended heros
@upper pebble 7/8 Oden
The only one i could A now
@upper pebble and when is weekley reset ?
Welp that will be usefull when you get to A
I can't say because different for every server
@upper pebble i could use the other banner and get the last one but i would like to M my Rowan too
I would just post your box in questions and ask for some advice.
No just like on your heros feels like you can use some(not meant in a mean way).
Kk
Maybe thoran for brutus
@royal stag Daimon die before he revive
Maybe switch daimons and odens position
need help idk what lineup works best for daimon since the merlin and titus trial is gone
rn i use titus in my build but hes going away soon cause its limited what should i replace him with, rn i have rowan, rosaline, wu kong, and brutus, my options to switch are the sheep centaur, gwenyth and bitterblight
could someone make a good team for me? (u can tell any heros, ill max them out)
rowan is considered one of the best supports rn
shemira isnt that good in later game ive heard, get more daimon
i’m in early game rn stage 8
brutus is OP for early game
wukong is good too but after level 100 hes kinda bad
the white hair dude with a mask is also a really good healer
Can someone help me make a good team I’m on 6-12
use rowan and wukong for now, rosaline is also super good
What should my setup be
rowan in mid back rosaline on top or bottom, wukong is in the front
What about the other 2 slots
start pulling more lol and hope for the others, rn just use the 3rd dude ig and the wind guy, but yea start pulling way more cards
Alr I’ll try thx
This is my early game team, did I start well in this server?
Yeah just don’t make legendary tiers
Guy in ur middle gonna do nothing at that level get another tank and put your support in the mid
who should i change him with?
Grezhul is vastly inferior to daimon early game and mid game, might want to switch them up and let lucius tank the estrilda instead
What is the best lineup with the heroes i have?
Talene grezhul has nice synergy with a ferael rowan and maybe an athalia to lock someone down?
Someone help!
Who is the Rosa following?
Shemira
Good
Try lucious instead of tidus
help
Is this pretty good lineup it’s my main
my daimon gets insta killed
Use the lvl140 L+ gb hero instead of talene
just stsrted playing, can i have advice on who to use?
Been stuck on this same level for 2 weeks even mercinaries can’t help
Did you check afkhelper? Try swaping Belinda for Nara, and switch Thoran and Brutus' places.
Oden is great all around, wukong is great up until around lvl 100, lyca is decent as well and saurus can be the carry for now until you get better characters, daimon is the one you’re always looking for
just got thoran aswell, replace with wukong?
Thoran is not really useful early game unfortunately, still a decent tank though if you need to tank something to stall
okay thanks
No worries, you can also ask me anything in dm’s
will do thanks
Nara dies in one hit regardless of where
reflect your comp (flip everyone and try it with tasi instead of belinda, also if you want to use a merc try an ainz merc (30si 9furn) or a Lucretia Merc
thoughts/suggestions
Looking for suggestions for LCT teams
afk help solutions either over leveled or got 3 309s
u dont seem to have any dps so you might have to merc that stage
Idk u could try getting like gwenyth to snipe them or get assassin to yknow
Use this guy for dps
mauler tower
I’m gonna maul your tower
You have Nara?
Vruk very poor compared to options
Is this even possible with my current levels?
ya
I just started, so I don’t know much about team comps, what would be the best one based on the characters I have? Thanks! 🙂
Use safyia Rowan and grezhul 100%
Okay, thnanks!
@jovial shuttle
Move mireal to middle, move Rowan to the front and shemira to back, try that
Alright sure will try thanks!!
@jovial shuttle Rowan just gets nuked at the start... dies in seconds each time
Hm show full box?
I see a twins maybe use them as well
got a free resonating crystal slot too
Try twins instead of the GB hero at the back, not thoran
instead of who sorry?
does your team get nuked by one hero or do they just get nuked in general?
@valid timber started a battle to check who I got nuked by and suddenly I beat the stage after trying the same lineup for probably like 40 times... well thanks i guess lol
thats how it be sometimes
nara or cecelia might help with that team
I have nara
have you tried hooking mirael or belinda?
Yea, Nara just get killed instantly
what is your crystal level?
maybe try
nara
brutus
mirael
hogan
arden/rowan?
definitely gonna wanna get mirael to 160 asap too
Last stage x2 deficit
wrong chat, and probably not for a long time
Sry
Got nuked
I am looking for best lineup not including trial hero’s, I can reset the heroes back to level 1 and level the other ones up
i remember that stage being tricky. could always just grab a mercenary or wait for levels
Tried even more times didn’t work
I'll wait for levels
youre actually in a really good position with 5 l+ fodder too. it might be worth trying cecilia at some point though she's usually better when its just one hero wrecking you like isabella
help please 😦
I don't have cecilia
put her on wishlist till you get one of her, shes like nara but she significantly reduces the damage of the hero she dives on
Alright sure
very strong against mages
Hopefully I'll summon her
Help please
i’m horribly bad at this game but maybe try swapping faerel out for someone else? i find he has low damage at E+ but that’s just me
@torpid lance
i really am bad at this game
flipping daimon with lyca and brutus with rowan doesn't work either?
can i get advice on this?
Use mireal back middle
that and ferael is kinda bad until you get to like level 200+ and you upgrade his SI
if you have cecelia she can help deal with isabella as well
What’s the move here? Unlocked this at chapters 15 and I’m on chapter 19 still can’t beat it tho
What’s the best build I can make here, I’m close to finishing chapter 11
what good tank should i use
Any help please?
A good one
Help. Tried like every position combo with these heroes but might not be best idk
hmmm i have this line up, but still getting shredded? should i need some time leveling them up or just find another suitable tank
Garrison u friends monsters and u ig
Could try that pink bow horse person I think she’s a tank that buffs
Oh yeah just realized move your daimon off of the boss onto somebody squishy
Swap antandra and mireal
i just need maybe a stay a little longer until i've got them better levels, i just need make my fodders l+ so i can resonate them
@fiery wing I agree with your name
i need copies of daimon & rowan and many fodders :((
@pale kettle dont think that solves it..
Dude my hero’s are like same level and almost exact same hero’s…
Mireal should not be front row just saying
😵
@pale kettle yeah usually dont have it but my back row keeps getting trapped and I need mireals ult
Why don’t u put the warrior in front doe
Wait I see an Isabella in the enemy team that means I can not help you
@pale kettle oh okay is she that strong?
Anyone got anything?
maybe this not sure if this is around where tasi slaps hard with her teleport if not youre free to use ferael as 5th his spirits proc it tons so when thats the case sub out get good gear on estrilda to disrupt eironns pull too
stuck really bad on this one any advice?
whats the rest of your box look like?id run rowan(sig+30) lyca daimon brutus tasi/nara
only got Nara to sig+30 xd, I do fine until the althalia alt wipes my entire team
Yeah once she ults ur team is done
oops just beat it using this team, thanks for the help though!
try brutus rowan frontline, ferael eerion daimon backline
What should my lineup be for the grotesque mage?? Tbh confused what his deal is because the battle got ended after what had to be 20 seconds
14-37 having huge troubles even when ainz is overleveled
Look at the leaderboards and you only get limited ults so turn auto off
can anyone help me?
The more you ult it will leave
- Level up Rowan
- Stop making legendary tiers
Help please 😭
I'd say screw Silas and try and see who Tasi can banish for you?
I don't feel like I have enough good support. So I'm kinda stuck. If there's anything I can try... I'll give it a go. I just got the first copy of Tasi and haven't put her on the crystal yet.
I've tried a bunch of different groups but nothing seems to really help.
Get an Eironn and put him into crystal and put him in backline to pull into Daimonn/Brutus. They will devour the enemies quickly. Also I'd stop using Oden as he's not doing much and maybe do Nemora for cc? unless you're using faction bonus
Any tips on what to do in terms with my lineup
And heres my list
Quick update - got vedan to 100 and oden to 95
Ok. I'll try it tomorrow! Thanks.
Vedan isn't really a tank so you don't want him out there, sub skreg. Don't make L heroes except fodders (3 skill heroes)
What are l heros? And fodders
And who should i sub skreg for
Oh nvm
Check out the pinned guides at #classic-questions
So sub vedan for skreg? @sleek delta
@feral mountain tbh you could reset every1 to 80 and overlevel mireal
@feral mountain well- nevermind, she's elite
Ill do this when shes elite plus. Thanks for the help!
I just got grehzul should i do him instead of skreg?
Still skreg, grez is better late game tho
@feral mountain youre still at the point fodders are more helpful
Ok thanks for the help!
@feral mountain Just got to your exact level, honestly you shouldnt be having to much issue w/ it with what you have currently, may just need to rng it out
Oh the level im on is fine, i just beat the chapter i just wanted refinements on my lineup
@feral mountain ahh okay, that makes much more sense then
Mhm
@feral mountain same deal tho, overlevel the mireal, and a 3 root arden will be your best friend for a while
you probably already know this but you shouldnt make L heroes. also you might as well frontline tasi or talene instead of thali. or put in daimon instead and take out talene as she is useless at that ascension
@feral mountain we should race our accounts
Sure what are we racing to?
@feral mountain weeks worth of progress?
@feral mountain that'll work, made this acc for speed running anyways
Go to dms btw
I have no say in this but ive learned that estridia is kinda bad
sub shem in for daimon or nem,rosa for tasi
Will try that
Who should Rosa follow?
whoever you decide as main dps either shem/daimon imo
Ty!
updated lineup again
woa woa, where is all other heroes go, this ain't right and that golden tasi will become your pain shortly
Thats filtered by supports if im not mistaken
How do I beat this
take rowan out, put lucius at daimon spot and move daimon to rowan spot
120 lvl L daimon should carry you through this easily
or easier switch rowan and daimon then switch titus and rowan ( use this setup so rowan supply can heal daimon if need and he tank long enough for daimon to start become a truck)
i died
you should try a few time
Any thoughts on lineup here? I've been trying mostly shemira, rowan, thoran, Daimon, talene. Tried weaving in cc, but everyone dies too fast to get cc off. I have 1 open crystal spot and can move people out to swap in a day
I FINALLY BEAT IT YESSSS
What do yall think I should prioritize
help please 🙂
kinda stuck
nvm just did it
How should I line these up
This tower stage is kicking My butt, any help?
Idea?
daimon
rowan
eironn
Brutus
farael
Suggestions? Isabella is the one that mostly sh*ts me
and try to stack as much haste on farael (call+mythic boots) and if you u dont cc before enemy farael swap rowan with lyca
Daimon can barely do one ult
r u getting banished?
Yep
do u ever not get banished?
20 runs, all time banished
and is ur farael ccing before the enemies?
How does it look when he cc them?
They always have this green/black lionhead over their heads
the black head that shakes over the char?
ya that stage looks like it would take a bunch of retries
This stage is bugging me
If prince keeps on ulting and stunning so Ainz can ult uninterrupted I can easily pass this stage
But he doesnt
Vurks poisons kill prince and estrilda runs through Ainz
Maybe try ainz where Rowan is? And instead Nara maybe daimon bc Ure fighting against 2 lb in front
I need help pls, Isabella is main problem but the others ofc are annoying too
Merlin daimon Rowan Titus mirael/ lucious
in that order?
I don't think Titus is very useful without that stun with the ult though
don't believe me though, I'm not qualified enough to say that
I totally remember the Vedan struggle. I think I just powered through it with Shemira and just being overlevelled.
do you not have a Brutus?
no..
I don't know if you can win this one. I had a Saveas which really helped more than Ankhira.
i got saveas
I'm not sure, haven't played this stage in a over 2 years
damn
my best suggestion is swap tje comp around a bit, maybe titus for something else and retry a something like 20 times because that's what Daimon is good for
but if Titus can live a few shots then just keep him
Put daimon in front of vedan @tepid jolt
Hero box
Please don’t mind the leg s, two of them are accidentally happened
Grab the isabella with nara
Alr did
So I level up vedan?
In exchange for lacy or who?
Nemora
No, put your daimon in front of enemy vedan
But she can still ult right?
Oh
It will delay her energy, maybe you can kill her with ainz ult before she ults
Doesn’t work
Nope.. does nothing
Show stage
Try Mireal middle and Merlin instead of oden
Is this lineup okay?
any recommendations here
You want to pull Fereal not Isabella
Killing cc heros first is a necessity for most stages
i’ll try that out
You're losing most likely due to Fereal fearing your diamon, which prevents him from doing anything
can i make from what i have some not to sucky team ?
Possibly, after my first daimon ult, i die to isabella
Im not sure youll have an easy time there. Id try mirael 120 mid rowan 100 and ideally nara if you have her to delay isabella or even hook nemora. I remember that I struggled extra hard on ch9 until I got l+ mirael and she carried me with rosa through the whole chapter. I think she was alrdy 140 tho
this stage makes me want to kms
You can run: Eironn, Brutus, Diamon, Rowan, Fereal
If erionn gets interrupted run lyca instead of brutus or Ferael
ive already tried aaaa
@tough void YESSS I FINALLY DID IT
and just as i said it i finally cleared it after 121 tries 
Lmao we both did it at the same time
Only 120 tries? 
istg it felt wayy longer than 120
ive been stuck there for 4 miserable and horrible fucking days
Yeah that's gonna be a common thing. Just wait til you get Mehira stages
oh shit what happens there
Mehira happens
any tips here? #classic-questions message
You can swap Saevas and nara spot, so she can pull Isabella
still just not even close
@high marlin can u counter thane
You can put a Brutus in front of him to slow him down, or reset til your hero can tank him
Daimon just dies instantly unfortunately
Wait
I fckin hate Isabella aswell 🙌
yeah she goes after the healer every time
I mean her ult tbh, sad ainz noises from my team
She wrecks him from 1 billion hp to like - 10 billion hp, no joke
Yeah after the rework she can be more tricky in earlier stages now.
Im asking again, any suggestions? Also that skreg and Kren are accidentally leg
AFK-helper not working for you?
Brutus, Eironn, Lyca, Rowan, Diamon
I just completed it, but with 5-star call
Pretty new player and new to discord is this where I can ask what to do with my roster to help me advance and fix mistakes?
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mvp
Need some help on stage 10-19, cant seem to beat it
@jovial shuttle cheers will try that but first few attempts Golus and Twins just get melted
Swap Thoran and golus position if so
Daimon got 3 ultra but I lost
here if ur still stuck im sure we have similar stuff atm 36-44 if u need a few other clears
in your chapter its level not lineup
Hi Adieu, thank you!!! I got all my solutions to work except for R4. I see that you switched R4 and R5. I might be able to do the same. Ill play around with this.
gl! i dont have 5* call either haha
Need help pls
Put ainz in for belinda
Was that for me?
doesnt work
Switch positions
No but yes ur Team is great for the start
Guys can i get some help im hard counter by Tasi can't win stun before i can do my first Daimon ult and sleep shen i can do my second ult with him
Only lvl up 5 Heros
So I only level up the ones im using now?
still doesnt work
@wide berry
It looks different for u when u unlock it but u can put ur heros i there and they get the lvl from ur weakest hero
Ok nice ty
Maybe lyca for Talene for some haste
Make sure daimon, rowan and ferael are in ur top 5 and in ur wishlist
Welcome
Whats about this one?
if you place rowan in front of hogan does he live ? i thought you might want to try and place numisu on rowan's spot and rowan in pop's and see how it goes ?
I got Ferael just now, do I put him in my team?
so no pop?
try it and see how it goes, might not work but 
it was the shortest fight i had lol
my numisu has a very bad gear so I cant do much with him
can you make a vid of it ?show me pop rowan,
same lineup as in the screenshot?
yes

Got hendrik to push away the eironn? The graveborn team can work with that
Unfortunately no Hendrik
And my Eironn is elite so I need Lyca to haste him or he wont do anything before he dies
I was pretty close once, with Tasi left. But she wiped my Thoran
tried talene on 1 3 or 4 position ? what about tidus ? maybe you can howl them by placing him on lyca's spot? what artifacts do you have on pop and ainz ?
just tried talene at 3 and it worked
congrats then!
pop has dura's eye and ainz aswell
occasionally you might want to try call so he can ult faster, might be the go to on some stages that dont encroach your side, something you can try
nara pull isabella
Someone can help me ? What can i used to not get counter by Tasi ?
Nara? She's faster than eirron
I don't have her :( I took the scrolls
Nara is faster but in return can only pull 1 enemy
@jovial shuttle i don't have nara
And my team get killed in 13 sec only Daimon survive more than 30 sec
any suggestion for better lineup ?
increase level
i should but, if there is better combo
Use mirael instead of the gb hero
ok i try
@storm epoch I got R4 to work with the comp you showed. I had to take Oden out since hes in R1. I used Tasi in his place. Now I need to figure out R5
Ok any thoughts?
No 5* call or Tasi.
idk what you do, but get that mf izold to ult.
daimon izold raine joker pippa (idk, just throwin shit)
Raine, Izold, Skreg, Thoran and Twins tbh
Skreg and Thoran front
Izold behind skreg
take out titus, put brutus where he is and hook mirael with nara
equip thoran/orthros with barricade make sure it shields either izold/thoran if it doesnt work sub out zold for either rosa,numisu,pop to disrupt ants dive pip can be subbed for estrilda
@dull shoal gb = graveborn
Any help for this stage please ?
any ideas?
be sure to push daimon +20 asap lyca+20 9/9,ferael 9/9 raku 3/3 +30 nara elite works fine long as she stops ardens roots
anyway i can get past this?
Are you using Oden as your carry
kind of, hes my highest level n biggest damage dealer but ive been trying to even my team
Don't, your carry needs to be 20-40 levels higher than your team at all times
should i reset someone to level him up more? then put rest back into that chatacter
@idle rivet @idle rivet ATM Luca isn't doing anything more than haste- if you have enough copies/fodder for mireal reset Oden/Luca and bring them to 81 w/ mireal 120
ive got enough to get mireal to legendary yeh
Personally I'd go with over levelling her to 120, and putting Tasi in the lineup to banish to give her enough time to ult a couple of times
So haste w/ Lyca, banish w/ Tasi mireal as your DPS carry
then rowan and thoran at front?
You can try Lyca in front so you can still use Oden w/ his abilities- if Tasi can survive the first hit or two you can do Tasi/Lyca Oden/mireal/rowan
Just started yesterday so need help with good story team/ pvp team
Show the rest of the heroes but you shouldn't be putting Rowan in the back as the silvina was just insta target him. Put a Gwyneth oipposing either Numisu or the Fereal as they will slaughter you without.
u don't need pop
this is my gwyneth
pop carried me from chapter 16 to where i am now'
I’d say pop is his greatest tool rn, maybe nara pulling the ferael for aoe stuns?
I have POP too lmao I'm not telling you this info unless it matters. He can't do anything against extreme level deficits because you have noone that can utilize the stun other than Ainz.
he is right, he is by far my best unit
Stalling for ainz is what ainz comp is all about?
Or can he not carry even if he has the time
What I'm saying is that before Ainz will even ult Fereal is probably already ulting or destroying his setup. You don't need to follow set comps for every step of the game as there are plenty of niche uses. At this deficit, you need to kill Fereal or he will be doing a lot of energy drain for your team. Stalling for Ainz isn't going to work because rn he probably isn't doing enough damage to anhillate the enemy before everyone else just gets destroyed
Also can you swapscroll for a daimon? Might be worth since you don’t have him high up yet
Gwyn won’t kill ferael in that comp though? Is nara stunning him not better then?
I am not going to use the swapscroll yet
Swapscroll should be used when you have a 30+ SI and 9/9
I mean, you don’t lose resources either way?
well you can only have 1 swap scroll
No I mean it costs resources to lvl to 30 and 9 furniture
And you have to spend them either way, if you swap scroll or not?
Ok I just beat it using nara
you can have many 30+ and 9/9
but only 1 swapscroll and it should be used only if you wasted those resources on a bad hero
wait but thinking of that i can get Lucretia to A
Can’t use it on celhypo’s
oh so nvm
I mean u kinda wasted resources into Belinda
Dont swap scroll into lb
isn't rowan like one of the best heroes in the game?
Support yeah
and I also have another E+ copy of rowan so I can get her instantly to 1*
Can’t carry you through campaign, although the potion helps ainz
but either way I am not going to use this yet
Ya, but one of the primary draws of swap scroll is u r basically getting extra fodder into a faction and lb already has too much fodder unlike gb which u will always be needing more fodder
maybe if I am going to get daimon
But I still don't have daimon so it will have to wait
Might as well swap if you don’t have one yet
is that even possible?
Ah nvm needs a single elite
when I finish 24 i am going to get 20 faction scrolls
and I am going to use them all on gb
Mhmhm hoping for a daimon
Ah yeah I don’t need one anymore, I already have him as my carry from the start :’), that would be kinda broken xd
stuck on this one
Any tips?
Nara the shemira and brutus against brutus, rowan can’t survive the vedan can he? Maybe ainz can survive with nara stunning shemira
You can always utilize Eironn pull in slot 4
silvina goes straight for ainz
Try to use rowan, he’s a healer that you need
Put him on slot 1 and nara the shemira, probably gets 1 tapped by vedan though
Okay, who should I switch him with?
insta death to vedan
Ah yeah nvm that sucks
I’d say the archer lady, mirael can already be the carry
Okay, thank you! 🙂
You can dm me if you want to know anything else
doesn't work aswell
Tried lyca for haste so pop can ult faster?
yes
Still don’t know anything against the ainz 1 shot though
first thing I tried and no results
I'll try belinda instead of ainz might do some changes
ok If i place zaphrael then silvina goes for him instead of ainz
Ohhh? Might be something
yea I tried this combo many times in the past and it works quite well
overall pop is very good with zaphrael if there is nothing that blocks zaphrael from teleporting
I have been able to get to brutus and low hp lyca vs pop and ainz
And I beat it!
pop brutus ainz rowan and zaphrael did it
Eyy good job!
240 ur ainz dude not prince
I 240 my prince before I had A ainz
You can do rickety cart for only 20 dias
I got A belinda today and I 240'd my prince yesterday
doesn't matter I am soon going to get it
and for now I am doing quite fine
You could always try it if you feel stuck on a wall again
yea but it happens quite rarely
I unlocked a new wandering balloon which gives me 2 elites and 10 faction scrolls so maybe i'll have luck
Try your luck, it would be nice
I got to chapter 29 with only prince and daimon 240 and 220
problem is - belinda is my ainz's bot
and If i'll swap belinda with daimon, I won't have A tier ainz anymore
You won’t need daimon and ainz in the same comp, prince and daimon can carry really well
alr
They’re both carries, you don’t want them in the same team preferably
what type of gear does he require?
I mean nothing is required just
ok so he needs heavy gear
He needs to not get 1 shot by everything, as long as he survives the initial burst he’ll most likely be fine with prince
I don't have much lol
That’ll be a problem, maybe wait the swap until you find some gear for him
I have faction-less boots and helmet
He’s going to be a great carry who’ll never become useless, I’d invest faction gear into him if you can
I can ofc
but will take a while to get
all of the heroes I use have 5 star faction gear
Ohh damn I’m really lacking in upgrade material myself :’)
Daimon and prince’s gear are the only good sets, and my gwyn but rarely use her anymore..
Ohh that’s something then
the problem is, if I use swap scroll with brutus, I will not have a tank anymore
Ah swap scroll doesn’t do armor
yea
but it doesn't really matter I can use the faction swap scrolls
but still I think I'll go belinda
Brutus is still somewhat useful for the tanking, belinda gets outclassed hard later on
Damn you lucky xd
the game loves giving me hypos lol
I’m not jealous or anything
lol just got a belinda
Saves me the trouble for having to waste 50 stargazers on a single mortas
meaning that I am missing one for 1*
i did a random single stargaze and got lucretia
The first one is always guaranteed, if it wasn’t the first one then, fml I’m jealous
its not the first one
Shush I don’t want to hear of your luck again
my first one was twins
Stuck on this level. Have one more spot on the crystal. Please help!
Good first one yeah, I did the same
btw new code - dqy4aq3pyw
8888 barrack coins, 8888 lab coins, 888 gems, and 30 scrolls
I’d say use ferael, but I don’t have any experience with early game ferael, fears are amazing though, buys time for mirael
Oh wtf, did that just come out?
Ferael still great though, I love gb
I love lb thats why i have all of them unlocked lol
Ahh fair enough yeah, shame only gwyn is a carry there :(
tbh I started collecting lb because when I just got started and there was the zaphrael and lucretia event, I thought that lb were cele so I started collecting them
What about the rest of the lineup
You have a lot of l+, arden on nara’s place and golus on brutus’ I’d replace eiron with either lyca or ferael
Maybe even silvina since she’s l+
Still getting absolutely rekt lol. Arden and silvina does nothing
well I am going to lose ainz in like 8 days
because I want to get merlin and I have to save up and not waste for dim stones
Oh yeah for dimensional u can never get past a normal L right?
you can
dim can be for up to 5* like any other a tier hero, but they don't level up normally, they link to a hero of choosing, and his tier and level will be the same as the linking hero
Oooh I see thanks
you should get every dim hero you can
sadly with ainz I didn't get him when I could
I just started playing like last week lol
yea so you had no chance of getting ainz
Any other idea regarding my 11-40 tho, can't seem to get past it at all
No mirael carry? Rekt even faster lol maybe I'll just have to wait a couple days and hit like 140
try mirael instead of eiron
Arden can't be right, dies way too fast and mirael just gets flanked
arden is probably the only L tier hero that can be used
This is my current lineup what should my lineup be these are my characters
Any ideas what I can do?
send heroes please
Yo glitch can u help me
I don't really use your heroes man sorry
Oh rip
ok so use brutus talene lyca rowan daimon
Daimon in back?
Daimon is a dude
whatever
I got screwed over by Isabella ult
Nope…that didn’t work
if you had pop you would probably be at chapter 20 today
Pop?
prince of persia
Oh wait! Holy shit I did it! Replaced lyca with Nara
Looked away for a second and boom. Done lol
Yeah sad I missed the collabs
Glad I got Daimon in my first summons though
yea I still don't have her and I am trying hard to get her
Saw his winter skin and HAD to have it
him* sorry
Same with twins Halloween skin. Soon as it can be afford. Getting that skin ASAP
k
Stargazed for the twins. No regrets lol
Now I’m just trying to get gems for summons. I need 1 more Brutus and Baden then I can get Brutus to mythic (and by extension my Merlin too) and Daimon to mythic+
well I have no use of twins honestly
How yall doing
but I stargazed lucretia today
I wanted them cuz they’re adorable lol
Whats a good line up for damion?
Most wanted unit in the game tbh
I think lucretia is the most wanted one
I mean for me
she is a 1 man army
Twins were my most wanted unit in the game
That’s why I went for twins in stargaze and talene in gift cart
talene is very useful
Plus I’m still early game lol
Stall teams with cc and or large healpools
Okay
oh btw, didn't get daimon
Rip
I have a 65k damion with like one mythic gear and all leg armor
I’m just trying to beat chapter 17
Pretty good for what im workint with😂
all those people having daimon making me jealous
Im stuck on 11😂
But it’s slow going
Any help
I am stuck at the start of 25
My damion is at level 140
mine's 0
Pog
Oh that’s why I stopped getting Baden. Took him off my wishlist lol
Use NAra on Isabella before she rapes you
Annoying that each chapter has 40 fights lol
Oh it’ll only get worse later on :’)
Stuck on freaking chapter 11 with my trash self
Little by little I’m getting Daimon to lvl 180
I dont even think my line up is any good either😁
I need more things to lvl up his sig item too
Sheesh pro
Sigh…I hate stages with Mirael and Isabella
I hate stages with arden and vurk
I hate any stage😂
in my situation i feel the same bud
@rancid cargo you’re raising too many heroes
Owh what
Im freaking stuck on 11-38
Only raise 5 at a time
why? he is fine
Wait tht is 5 at a time
The highest ascension you can get
he raises 5 lol
The other 2 is from the thing
No there’s 2 more
level 11?
This is my team rn does anyone have any suggestions
Yeah
thats what matters to you?
Wukong is hard to get
I’m just trying to help…
level 11 is so low that i wouldn't care at all
Wouldnt waste my time on him ngl especially when your lower
But wukong so cool..
damn just realized that I have 334M hero xp
Hes harder to get
should i change wukong to eironn
use wukong as long as you can
I would
Yeah once you cant use him anymore use someone else
Eirron is really good
ouke thank u
you can use them both lol
Thoran isn’t great early at all, I’d replace him with wukong and put in lyca for the haste
Isabella is good when she doesn’t die in 2 milla seconds
Ok
So wukong frontline where thoran was and lyca on wukong’s previous place
Ok thx a lot lemme make that change rq
well I guess i'll go on with 25 only when I'll level up my ainz lol
Any things i should change like level someone else up or sum?
Ferael is great to have lvled up in case you need him, I’d put him on the crystal sooner or later
hi i’m new can anyone help me make a team
send hero pool