lineup-help

[tardy gulch]

Like Eironn Or Titus

[pale kettle]

Issue my tasi dies b4 banish and she vanished mireal

[strong badge]

Try replacing lucius with thoran

[slate flax]

K

[tardy gulch]

Try Having A Tank or a Healer on front of tas

If u have A Lucius That'll help a lot

[pale kettle]

Lucious is umm at e and don’t tank a hit form grezhul

[strong badge]

If you got some decent defense try hooking her with nara

[pale kettle]

I don’t have Nara

[tardy gulch]

Do u have a Shemira? she's op at Late Game

[strong badge]

She isnt

[pale kettle]

She’s umm case of inside daimon

[tardy gulch]

Well for me Sorry 😅

She can Life Leech at level 120 think

[slate flax]

That didn’t work either

[pale kettle]

Daimon does healing too and in cases even better

Also that shield is mighty juicy

[slate flax]

No wonder I’ve been dealing with this for a couple days lol

[strong badge]

See if swapping nemora with rowan helps

[pale kettle]

Ummm yeah…

[slate flax]

The car helped

What if I swapped Lucius with Peggy

[strong badge]

What's her ascension

[slate flax]

Leg

[strong badge]

You could try it

[slate flax]

YES

FINALLY

[strong badge]

Nice

[slate flax]

Oh lord, the next one doesn’t look any better

The only thing I need is Brutus dead

[tardy gulch]

Help 😣

Isabella Hurts

[slate flax]

Yea I see that, do you have Athalia or Nara

[tardy gulch]

They Only Elite

Athalia Only

[slate flax]

K

Try lining her up on Issa, that will stun for a good couple seconds

She is who I do end up using against Issa aswell

How did that go?

K last level of ch 14

[strong badge]

Chapter 17 is still quite early in the game so shes still an ok carry

[slate flax]

Lets go boys

[pale kettle]

this game made me realize how much time some people have to spare

[slate flax]

Yep

[pale kettle]

Do I need to change something here? I've been retrying this stage for like 4 hours now and idk if it's just flora being flora or if there's anything I can do differently

[pale kettle]

Anything I should change? I always get down to just rigby and flora and they kill lucretia in one hit

What is the best 3 teams I can build here

[nocturne furnace]

is luc getting a timebomb placed on her?

[halcyon drum]

16-40, is there any way to get through this one fight with what I have, or should I wait for my mercenary use?

This is what I’ve got on resonance, FWIW (the two open slots are going to be a L Lucius and E Thali or Numisu; I wanted to get five of each faction on resonance for four factions towers tomorrow)

[vagrant ibex]

Shemira backline tank with thoran and brutus try
Thoran brutus
Oden shem tasi/safiya

[storm epoch]

sub out your flora for talene that worked for me r1raku/mehira r2gbalna(portal pull) r3thoran r4ainz r5zold iirc

[halcyon drum]

Oden targets Kaz with his opening spell, who’s immune :/

[vagrant ibex]

Try to swap hes positioning or used other support like nara or lyca

[pale kettle]

Jsut saying daimon is better than Shem later (just my opinion)

[vagrant ibex]

With your power it shud be easy

[fiery wing]

hello i'm just new and got these heroes any suggested line up? thanks

[vagrant ibex]

Yes if hes daimon myth atleast

Izold is your main carry

[tardy gulch]

Stuck For 1 Hour Now... Can anyone help?

[stone coyote]

I need help beating this level im stuck can I even beat it

[halcyon drum]

I agree, but I had four spare Shemira from pulls + campaign reward, and no Daimon. Counting on A Shemira > M Daimon for mid game

[tardy gulch]

:3

[vagrant ibex]

@tardy gulch swap angelo for tasi or lyca have a try

Lyca lucius
Shemira nemora tasi/safiya/estrilda

[tardy gulch]

Ty IL try

[maiden vapor]

i would garrison ainz if u dont get 4 daimon, shemira is terrible after ch 12

[halcyon drum]

Thoran/Brutus/Safiya/Gwyneth/Shemira did it. Needed to have Shamira off-center so she wouldn't draw focus before her first cast. Thanks for the help 👍

[vagrant ibex]

@stone coyote
Wukong rowan
Lucius nara shemira

[tardy gulch]

AOXNAKXKA tas worked tyyy :D

[vagrant ibex]

Lol

[maiden vapor]

also i would probably make the claim M+ daimon > A shemira with 9/9 furn and 30 si

[vagrant ibex]

Shemira is nice atleast till ch 27 if you know how you used it

[maiden vapor]

i mean is it better than m daimon?

[vagrant ibex]

Daimon is new carry ... and shemira is just old but you cant compare them :(

[stone coyote]

Sadly it didnt work my guys are probably too low lvl

[outer comet]

help through the difficult stage 33-60

[stone coyote]

@vagrant ibex this was what you meant right

[halcyon drum]

I just got two Daimon with the faction scrolls I got for clearing 16-40, we’re good

[maiden vapor]

wtf

[stone coyote]

Wtf

[halcyon drum]

Daimon ascension will happen, this isn't an exclusive-or thing

wtf

[maiden vapor]

the problem about ascending shemira is that u lose a ton of fodder, imagine if u had that fodder for farael, thoran, or literally any other gb

[outer comet]

7 bule yah

[vagrant ibex]

@stone coyote ye or swap wukong and lucius pos you need shem to cast ulti

[halcyon drum]

Can you pull for me next time

[stone coyote]

Yeah I still lost

Even when she ults its like her left with 2 and ogi kills her

[vagrant ibex]

Oh try dat maid to follow her

[stone coyote]

Who should I replace for the maid

[vagrant ibex]

Wukong

[stone coyote]

Yeah still lost I think im just too underpowered

[vagrant ibex]

Nope sometimes you need to repositioning cuz you have shem above them

[tardy gulch]

im too weak for this , whag should i do?

[dense escarp]

guys any suggestion, i cant past 19-20

[humble rock]

Keep dying bad any suggestions

[stone coyote]

Can anyone help me make a comp that will do good in the forgetten ruins like get pretty far

[fair kayak]

Im getting destroyed on this one, any idea

[ruby drift]

Switch daimon and brutus

[mortal mural]

Is this possible to beat with what I have now?

[storm epoch]

think so maybe run ferael,daimon,silas,nara,oden keep flex spots are 2,3 either shift/sub silas,daimon,grez or another hero usually kelthur works at low asc

id recc 9/9 grez as next furn focus imo naras fine at e just for initial disrupt looks like u just need fodder haha

[pale kettle]

What are 4 different comps I could come up with to viably push ch35?

[ruby drift]

U have ainz comp, eirron pull (need safiya), thoran cheese and daimon x raku comp
Almost the same as mine

You also need si 30 raku for it to work

[pale kettle]

@ruby drift what do you use for thoran cheese? I've been using Thoran, flora, talene, grezhul, and like a filler champ.

What is the Daimon raku comp?

[ruby drift]

This is raku x daimon comp.. brutus can be changed with lyca if needed. Really good, just need mehira ult then raku and daimon kills. Also, elite+ is enough

[maiden vapor]

usually thoran cheese has lorsan

[ruby drift]

My thoran cheese isnt really used cuz i have lucretia... but i would do flora, lorsan, nara if needed

[stray canyon]

What’s a good campaign setup

[burnt vigil]

Put ur xp into daimon and Rowan then replace wu Kong with antandra(duras grace)

[stray canyon]

Rowan and daimon is fully maxed out rn

[burnt vigil]

Forgot abt ascension 🤦‍♂️

[mortal mural]

It doesn’t work, I think.

[burnt vigil]

Does Nara die to estrilda dash?

[mortal mural]

Yes

[burnt vigil]

Maybe safiya instead of gwen

[burnt vigil]

Do u have barricade?

[mortal mural]

What’s that?

[burnt vigil]

The artifact

[mortal mural]

No

[burnt vigil]

Prolly not, it would take a bit of testing and taking advantage of your level but I doubt

[stray canyon]

Just got lucertia, should I focus on her, I heard she’s good

[burnt vigil]

She is good but I don’t have a whole lot of experience using her and she needs to be atleast partially built to really shine. Just try to get her to ult safely(she is still good at your level I think)

[stray canyon]

Ah okay, I’ll build her up

[burnt vigil]

👍

[sterile oxide]

Do these artis seem right? I copied this team, but the others were a breeze. Not sure if my artis are my issue or its just foking RNG.

[mortal atlas]

Need hellp clearing this stage

[jovial shuttle]

Dont

[mortal atlas]

used my mercenaries for clearing 25-60, will get em tommorow but help with this stage is much appreciated!

[whole bramble]

what should I do

[nova kettle]

Stop using fodder as normal heroes

U have twins why are you using fire girl that is 100 times worse?

[whole bramble]

@nova kettle idk man Im new Im clueless hence I asked here

so which 5 should I use?

[elfin jackal]

@upbeat fossil help

[upbeat fossil]

i'll block you

[elfin jackal]

[torpid lance]

Help please

[faint current]

@whole bramble I highly suggest both of you to read the pinned guides in #classic-questions

[whole bramble]

👍

[faint current]

The short version is: level and ascend Mirael/hogan/Arden/Golus/niru to lvl 160 and Legendary+, that’ll take you right into the next phase of the game and set you up nicely for whats to come next. You can check about your roster in #classic-questions at 160/140/140/140/140 since that’s the soonest you should be thinking about Mythic heroes unless you’re spending.

[whole bramble]

@faint current thanks man appreciate it!

[faint current]

Sure thing

[pale kettle]

Help

[shell shuttle]

@jovial shuttle same outcome

this stage is stupidly hard

[jovial shuttle]

Hmm

Show formation?

[shell shuttle]

https://gyazo.com/14a599e23790aa976b6ceabb1af0398a

[jovial shuttle]

You have spaces on rc?

[shell shuttle]

yea

[jovial shuttle]

put rosaline on rc and take out shemira for rosa, have rosa be on daimon

[shell shuttle]

still doesn't work, when isabella ults everyone dies

[jovial shuttle]

arden
---->thoran
Mirael
----> hogan, put on rc
Merlin or rosa
Try that?

[worldly apex]

any hjelpers

[maiden vapor]

try
farael
lyca
eironn
brutus
daimon

or swap farael and daimon

[worldly apex]

got it ty

[north fulcrum]

So?

[shell shuttle]

@north fulcrum i keep switching my team to try out other heroes but here is my current one
https://gyazo.com/8addc280f4c7212cad0b613edd5f4408

[north fulcrum]

It's a very decent team

[ocean ledge]

vurk is too op

[north fulcrum]

True

[north fulcrum]

Well how about shemira?

[shell shuttle]

my oden keeps ulting other enemy heroes instead of isabella so she ults and oneshots all of my heroes

[shell shuttle]

tried using her too, no success

[north fulcrum]

She literally is ur only"healer"

[jovial shuttle]

Shemira trash, who needs healers anyways

[ocean ledge]

shemira's dimentionnal food

[jovial shuttle]

arden
---->thoran
Mirael
----> hogan, put on rc
Merlin or rosa
Try that? @shell shuttle have you tried this

[north fulcrum]

Maybe try Rosa on daimon

[shell shuttle]

nope, tried it too before, daimon doesn't even die that early it's just isabella ulting and oneshotting everyone and vedan ulting too

[shell shuttle]

wdym with that exactly

wait uh, i just did it

LESGOOOO

i used gorvo in the backline middle

[north fulcrum]

Awesome

[jovial shuttle]

Nice

[jovial shuttle]

I mean try the heroes in that formation

[shell shuttle]

o

[sharp depot]

I need help on stage 11-40

[jovial shuttle]

Yuck shemira, but anyways use hogan instead of the frontline mauler and put mireal in the back middle

[sharp depot]

Ok I’ll try it

Didn’t work

[pale kettle]

Any tips in formation? Replacement?

I've been really close with this team, Mehira usually last one standing

[jade shore]

I need the 5 gazers

My shem is really bad in tower

I just need daimon to stay alive so he can finish the job

[pale kettle]

If I can summarize why am I stuck in one word it would be: Isabella

[jovial shuttle]

Nara?

[pale kettle]

Idk how many times I have said this: I don’t have her

[jovial shuttle]

ah okay

[pale kettle]

Before I was able to survive Isabella using eironn but his pulls are failing

[jovial shuttle]

Hmm, so isbella able to do ability?

[pale kettle]

Isabella just ults and daimon is dead

And I am only on x2 deficit

[jovial shuttle]

try rowan?

[barren palm]

Someone help pls

[dusk portal]

helpp

[dusk portal]

u tried using tasi?

[jovial shuttle]

Use mireal, put her back middle, put titus frontline for that mauler guy

[pale kettle]

who should i pick

[storm epoch]

save until youre 1 away from asc tho id lean towards flora she'll see much more use than the rest

[dusk portal]

alr ty ❤️

[pale kettle]

Yep banishes mireal

[dusk portal]

ok how do u deal with this skreg

[pale kettle]

Imma do some more pot while just waiting to get daimon copies cya

[dusk portal]

alr gl

[worldly apex]

struggling here, nara dies before she can hook mehira

[dusk portal]

what happens if u just hook the raine and eirron pull the mehira

[worldly apex]

nah she still isnt moved

trying with lyca for the haste on nara

[pale kettle]

Yeah no I am brick walled there too

[solid remnant]

For the peaks of time thing I need a team with 4 wilders. What should I do? I used my crystal on all relevant hero’s I think

Am I right on just randomly sacrificing some of the wilders as frontline to die and have daimon carry? Or should I place izold instead

[hollow hollow]

Should I keep going with my current heroes or change to someone else I have? I'm rather lost xD

[storm epoch]

if you own lorsan his link kills him quickly merc arthur if u have a use left looks like a gwyn stage to me

[worldly apex]

i have no idea how to handle this

[magic igloo]

Tried Daimon Thoran Oden Tidus Ferael?

Portal the Estrilda unto the thoran

[worldly apex]

nope everyone is still just dying instantly

[storm epoch]

do you have a merc left not sure if you know how to cheese yet but lyca rowan kelthur thoran(+30 3/3)lorsan looks doable

[worldly apex]

a while off getting 30sig on thoran, need to finish rowan still

[storm epoch]

mercs reset in a few hours id say give it a try then getting some practice in with thorans great for later

[pale kettle]

I would level up Belinda because she’s a pretty good hero for your setup but I also think putting Tasi and rosaline on the crystal would be decent play becuase rosaline can boost tasi’s ult charge speed and you can’t die if the enemy is asleep

I’m not the best player but no one answered your question ❤️

But I have no idea where to go from here

[pale kettle]

Your top 4 wilder heros are pretty good I would put them and then daimon cuz he’s aurguably the best carry in the game

[humble rock]

I’m stuck

[summer cedar]

try fera 3 nara 4. nara needs to interrupt bats.

[summer cedar]

shem daimon desira oden nara might work

[pale kettle]

@summer cedar thanks, will try. Just managed to level all to 246, idk If it will make a diff but better than nothing

Tyvm🙏 will try later

[summer cedar]

thoran brutus daimon rowan tasi might work. would help to know who tasi banishes.

[summer cedar]

eironn is not fast enough to pull a mehira.

[summer cedar]

give nara boots and lyca haste as needed

[fossil thicket]

any ideas?

[pale kettle]

Mireal

[maiden vapor]

Try
Lyca
Brutus
Eironn
Rowan
Daimon

[vital kernel]

Okay I cannot for the life of me get thoran to ult even once here, pippa just teleports him as he dies and nobody else gets enough energy to dump into thoran

Not sure if maybe Raine needs better gear to survive estrilda or something

[pale kettle]

Help needed please

[opaque vapor]

What team should I be using plz?

[pale kettle]

Help

[shadow remnant]

Any help with this please ?

[worldly apex]

not having any luck, thanks for the help tho

[high marlin]

Need to kill ezizh immediately

[high marlin]

Your carry dps needs to be 20-40 levels ahead of the rest of your team first off

[halcyon drum]

Try Shemira + Thoran for the factional advantage over your current Elites. Also, what’s your top row? I see Legendaries you aren’t using

[fossil thicket]

cant kill anybody😂

[high marlin]

Bc you have 2 carries, 2 secondary dps, and a tank. You need you take out 1 carry and 1 secondary dps and get 2 supports in there

[fossil thicket]

do you have any idea what i could change?

[halcyon drum]

I’d try Thoran/Hogan/Shemira/Mirael/Silvina, in that order. Lean on factional advantages on the Lightbringers

[shadow remnant]

Let me have a go 👍🏻 thanks dude

[halcyon drum]

👍

[shell shuttle]

any suggestions?

[halcyon drum]

You have enough Elite+ to fill a resonating Crystal with level 120s; how are you on exp and gold? Might be worthwhile to replace Mehira + Lyca with Rosalina and one of your other level 1 E+ heroes so you can reach the new cap of level 120

Oof, just noticed Arden is also level 100 (six leveled up heroes). Reset your three Elites, level two Elite+.

[high marlin]

Take out Prince and Lucretia. Put in Rowan and tasi, lyca, fereal, etc

[shell shuttle]

gonna level up gwyneth and shemira to 120 for the crystal, any suggestions for the stage tho? @halcyon drum

[lyric yew]

can we see ur full inventory

[lyric yew]

why arent u using merlin

also maybe use rosaline

[shell shuttle]

i linked him to daimon accidentally, rosaline instantly dies and barely heals from my experience

[lyric yew]

you can unlink merlin for 100 gems, if rosaline instantly dies then idk

[shell shuttle]

is it worth the gems

i can only use him for another day i think

[lyric yew]

100 gems is ridiculously easy to get

[pale kettle]

A bit late to the convo but daimon is really good for early game and carried me with rosaline

[lyric yew]

since u arent using mirael u can link to her instead

if u win a boss stage u can get 200 gems either way

[shell shuttle]

kk

[pale kettle]

I just noticed you can acend your daimon

[shell shuttle]

I need one more Rare+ Silvina

[pale kettle]

no

[lyric yew]

u shouldnt ascend until u can get l+ version

[shell shuttle]

I have 3 copies left and my Daimon is E+

[pale kettle]

ohhhh

[halcyon drum]

Yeah, unfortunate that you don’t have the pulls, L+ Daimon would carry you through a few stages for sure

[lyric yew]

still tryna get l+ daimon myself

[shell shuttle]

I will pull on GB faction scrolls in 2 hours

[halcyon drum]

Yeah, then you’re cherry for sure

[shell shuttle]

maybe I will get the needed heroes for l+ daimon

[halcyon drum]

You 100% will.

[shell shuttle]

I will need a few silvinas

[pale kettle]

does anyone know what I should do from here? I hit a brick wall

[high marlin]

Ik it's gonna sound like a broken record, but you should've gotten 5 fodder units to L+

For this exact reason. Now you're level capped

[pale kettle]

my rng on pulls is horrific

[shell shuttle]

I hope I will get 2 Nirus and 3 Silvinas, that‘s enough for l+ daimon

[halcyon drum]

Yeah, I’d work on ascending Saveas to L+, at the stage of the game you’re at he’s even still useful

Then you’ll have food for when you get a good Mauler

[shell shuttle]

@halcyon drum do you know how to get many coins for the crystal slots

[pale kettle]

you can get L daimon rn @shell shuttle. Correct me if I’m wrong but you can turn your 3 daimons into an E+ and you have another E+ GB hero that you can add to daimon to make him L

[shell shuttle]

I won‘t be able to get L+ then

[halcyon drum]

That’s a really bad idea though, because if he doesn’t use his Daimons as food he can have an L+ in a few hours

[lyric yew]

been stuck for long time

[pale kettle]

I didn’t even think of it like that

[halcyon drum]

Level your units, put Lucius in front, cross your fingers and pray for a Lucius + Daimon pull to get you to a 160 cap (or promote Ira ASAP)

[pulsar needle]

Hello i have one question at this moment my team to push (chapter 30) is shemira daimon rowan silas Brutus and there is my question what i can put to replace shemira

[halcyon drum]

Assuming you don’t have the resources: put Lucius in front of Golus and Daimon in front of Estrilda. Just swap your formation from left to right. Use Shemira instead of archer dude for this one.

[shell shuttle]

he carried me through, thx

[high marlin]

You can use eironn or Ferael instead of shemira

[long vapor]

Does any see any team comps I can plan out for multi stages? I think I’m hitting multi soon (chapter 31-24) also have eiron oden isabella and thoran at 4 elite+ copies just waiting on fodder

And should i swap Belinda/shemira with izold

[lyric yew]

failed

[shell shuttle]

does this lineup work or should i put arden in?

[long vapor]

Use AFK helper, select the stage your on, then find a team comp listed with hero’s you have and try it

[tender drum]

Thane and Athalia..

[long vapor]

Rowan, brutus, daimon, lyca, and Nara. Put them in that order

Do you have any decent gears on him

[tender drum]

Yea didnt know how the Anwser thingy worked lol wait

[long vapor]

If not you can try Rosie as she is similar to Rowan in becoming unrtargerable

[tender drum]

when game starts thane dashes and two shots rosa

[pale kettle]

any ideas? I’m stuck

[halcyon drum]

This lineup is good, but mate, you now have AT LEAST EIGHT heroes you’re leveling. Reset all your Elite level 100s at the Rickety Cart, use the resources you get back to pump Shemira, Talene, Gorvo to 120. Put the heroes you want to keep their levels on the Resonating Crystal. No need to hamstring yourself by spreading exp around so much and falling below cap

[high marlin]

There's absolutely no reason to level more than 5 heros. You put the rest on Crystal

[halcyon drum]

☝️

[hard forge]

Drop Belinda for lyca, Rosa might work for a while but after that you should be replacing her with a tank or other cc like Arden and fera

[pale kettle]

u only level 5 heros what

[narrow lark]

@hard forge help

[halcyon drum]

Look at the person I’m replying to. They have eight leveled heroes, nine if they didn’t reset Arden. I’m telling them to reset the extras and consolidate to five.

[magic igloo]

I’m just getting perma cc’d

[high marlin]

Don't put diamon on the frontline

[past urchin]

Dont frontline Daimon against a full Wilder team

[kind nest]

Put Lyca Frontline

[halcyon drum]

Is Arthur a good first Dimensional to get? I’m looking for an easy way to transition out of A Shemira in the later stages, figure I’ll feed her to a dimensional. I could save resources for one of the others, but Arthur would let me buy in stages and continue to collect Wu Kong in the meantime

[ebon hazel]

Don't buy Wukong s, that's one of the worst things you can do, and yes, you should buy Arthur once you have Merlin

[magic igloo]

Why shouldn’t you buy wukong’s after arthur?

[ebon hazel]

Because he's worth way less than the red emblems, like half the value, just in pure gem value.

In actual practical value he's basically as good as buying estrilda.

[halcyon drum]

You can get red emblems from labs? I’m just wrapping up chapter 17…. Think I’m a way’s away from unlocking that

[ebon hazel]

You really aren't, chapter 19, and you should be saving up for Merlin and Arthur anyways

[halcyon drum]

Welp

Just as well, I’m only two Wu Kongs in 🤷

[past urchin]

More than you need.
Hes not a good hero.

[ebon hazel]

It's salvageable, I bought Estrilda until she was 5*, and I somewhat came back, still pretty far behind.

[halcyon drum]

Yeah, better I’m pivoting now than later is all.

[amber sierra]

Put talene in the front and swap her position with Rosaline

[high marlin]

Once you unlock Arthur his spot in lab store turns to 50 dim emblems

[halcyon drum]

Holy what

[halcyon drum]

Nice

[high marlin]

Eh, I was able to Si30 Ainz and Albedo before I unlocked that

[pale kettle]

I saw that Belinda is a popular hero is it worth adding her to my team?

[high marlin]

No

[ebon hazel]

Used to be very good, people still parrot 2019 information, she's just barely worth building in the late game

[amber sierra]

Yeah

[pale kettle]

I’m still pretty early is she worth it?

[ebon hazel]

No

[amber sierra]

She is a good beginner character

[ebon hazel]

She's weaker than Mirael

[pale kettle]

who’s that?

[ebon hazel]

Blue rarity witch

[pale kettle]

oh

[amber sierra]

Like for the first and second chapters

[pale kettle]

oh I’m on chapter 12 is that not early?

[amber sierra]

Then she's shit

[ebon hazel]

12 is still very early

[pale kettle]

oh

[ebon hazel]

Mid game usually refers to chapters 31-35, late being 36+, but it's pretty grey.

[amber sierra]

I'm stuck on 27-37

[pale kettle]

bit off topic but where do I go from here everyone tells me to get more people to L+ but who do I acend?

[ebon hazel]

Follow the pins in #classic-questions
You need to fix your wish list most likely

[amber sierra]

Drez is pretty good

[ebon hazel]

No he's not.

[amber sierra]

Yeah he is

[ebon hazel]

No, he really is not, he's basically in the same place Belinda is

[amber sierra]

Have you ever used him

[ebon hazel]

Yes, he's garbage compared to actual carries

[past urchin]

No he is not.
He works in AE and thats about it.

[ebon hazel]

That's why you will never see him in any medium or high deficit fight

[past urchin]

Good luck running a Drez who goes after the lowest HP targets against campaign Brutus infestation.

[ebon hazel]

I mean good luck running Lucretia in Brutus infestation

[worthy steeple]

Thats why i have nara XD

[amber sierra]

MY MAIN HERO IS KELTHUR

sorry for caps

[high marlin]

Quick question, you haven't had a multi fight stage yet?

[long vapor]

I have but it was only 2 stages

It seems a multi stage pops up every 5 campaign stages in this chapter (31-24 atm)

[high marlin]

Every boss stage

[long vapor]

From the hero’s shown do you see any team comps I could start building up for end game

[high marlin]

You should Garrison Ainz and Albedo

And/or start working on Thoran

[ebon hazel]

Yeah...... why.

[amber sierra]

Because he is pretty op in some ways

Ainz is also one of my main heros

[ebon hazel]

1/3, almost stuck out

[amber sierra]

Oh whoops

Nemora isn't that good I fused ainz to nemora

He is good because he has the death ability

[shell shuttle]

those are on my crystal

[dusk portal]

this stage is giving me 5 massive headaches

[stray canyon]

What hero should I switch for nara

[gaunt dragon]

Help plz

[worthy steeple]

Gwyn

[stray canyon]

Im building up gwyenth, anything else?

[gaunt dragon]

@stray canyon Just for now take her out

[worthy steeple]

Than probably atandra

[stray canyon]

I’ll just replace Gwyenth with Nara for now

[worthy steeple]

Alrighty. i would recommed putting rowan frontline so nara can pull the hypo mage

[gaunt dragon]

Any suggestions for mine?

[worthy steeple]

Brutus instead of fawkes and put daimon backline

or, brutus instead of lucious and put rowan frontline

[gaunt dragon]

Ok lemme try that. The first suggestion worked better but the mirael ult 1 shots

[stray canyon]

Like this?

[worthy steeple]

Rowan can be where thoran is in that one

rowan only needs to frontlin if nara needs the middle back

[stray canyon]

Alright

[stray canyon]

I also have lucertia but I didn’t build up, should I replace it tho ran or no

[worthy steeple]

Lucretia needs her sig to be good, so nah. Thoran works as a tank

[stray canyon]

Alright

[gaunt dragon]

Yeah no luck

[stray canyon]

I also have safiya, should I use her as a boost?

If I have Gwyenth or something that’s long range

[worthy steeple]

If you used sfaiya, it would still help daimon; besides, at that level mirael is pribably your best carry over gwyn

[stray canyon]

Alright

[dusk portal]

i need help

[silent shore]

who is who banishing

[dusk portal]

my luc gets banished for a split second

[final hazel]

Pweas help idk who to use

[silent shore]

Alright the issue with this stage is just Tasi I'm assuming combined with Estrilda's interrupt. It's useless to use the Safiya unless its just for her pyramid thing and maybe replace Lyca with Fereal? Idk too much but you can google combinations of lucretia cheese if you're going to merc for sure. IMO I think you can do it with daimon

[stray canyon]

Need help

[vagrant ibex]

@dusk portal if u used lucre you dont need rowan , you want the others die fast

@stray canyon with your power shud be easy try to swap nara with shem

[stray canyon]

Already finished it by luck

[zealous iron]

What alterations should I make to my formation?

I have a hero choice chest and I still have a desired hero pull so I can get whichever L hero to L+

Or another shemira star but

[hard forge]

focus everything you can into daimon, drop shemira entirely

[orchid mountain]

Is this alright? I switched tasi with nemora in the portal party comp

I don’t have tasi…

It was just on the labyrinth ..

[languid talon]

Mega stuck on this stage.

[dusk portal]

swap ur daimon's place with ur talene so she can heal everyone

[languid talon]

Doesnt matter on this stage. Everyone except Daimon gets 1 shot at same time

[dusk portal]

if fthey die instantly, u dont need that nara and just put lyca for the haste ig?

[halcyon drum]

Cheap answer, but: level your Rare heroes (Saveas, Kaz and Mirael are already E+) to L+ first. Get them on the pedestal and to 160. This is the least pull-reliant way to get a bunch of 160 L+ on the crystal. Then, focus on replacing those L+ food with the heroes you actually want to make Mythics, based on factional makeup. Example: if you have Mirael and Hogan at L+, prioritize Lightbringers.

Then, from what you have:
Prioritize Thoran, Saurus, Gwyneth, Estrilda, Skreg from the factional heroes you actually have.

If you’re willing to change up your wish list, prioritize Lucius, Rowan and Gwyneth (Lightbringers), Daimon and Thoran/Shemira (Graveborn), Saurus, Eironn and Tasi (Wilder), and Brutus and Numisu (Mauler). Replace them 1:1 with your L+ food (bumping them to Mythic) once you get enough copies to make any of them L+ (4 hero copies total, not counting food).

[final hazel]

Ok this bible

[pale kettle]

Lol

[maiden marsh]

Check out the beginner guides pinned to #classic-questions , it has the correct wishlist and some earlygame advice

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/717dde3e256c1af0887c9546b66be0ca
Anybody have any idea how I can get around Vurk's traps killing Luc?

[supple hound]

Hello! Am looking for some help regarding the 3 teams i can put on defence for Legend’s Challenger Tournament. Thanks in advance!

[silver dock]

hey can I get help with this stage?

[earnest thicket]

Daimon in 3, someone like Brutus to tank for him in 1.
Then maybe Tasi, Rowan, Oden, or Ferael for 4 or 5.
If you have Cecilla, Nara, Athalia, or Silvina (not recommended but might still work) you can send them toward the enemy Mirael

[silver dock]

Will try and let you know

[silver dock]

Who should I try in 2?

[earnest thicket]

Judging from your screenshot I would probably say Titus or Skreg. Rowan would be cool too but his potions won't touch Daimon.
Do you have more non-lvl1 heroes besides the ones shown in the screenshot?

[silver dock]

Yes, sending soon

[earnest thicket]

Try Alna in 1, Brutus in 2
They both have invulnerability which makes them really good tanks
Alna can be knocked back by Estrilda tho, stopping her from initiating her invuln

[silver dock]

👍

[marsh nymph]

been retrying for like 5 hours and no luck. Thoran isn't doing enough dmg to one shot the first 4 and then ult on the flora. suggestions?

[nocturne furnace]

did u take thoran chest and helm off? also if he can ult without 9f then try taking crit resist furn off

[marsh nymph]

Yep, it's just his 5* gb wep and t3 boots on

I think he can after some retries, I'll take it off then

[nocturne furnace]

yeah other than that its just massive rng

[marsh nymph]

yea flora stages are just annoying in general

[pale kettle]

Yo does anyone how to lvl up my heroes?

[maiden vapor]

wdym how

[pale kettle]

Don’t worry nvm

[foggy apex]

Any Idea

[ocean ledge]

help

[whole bramble]

at stage 8-17, cant seem to get past it with this, what 5 heroes should I use?

[halcyon drum]

Curious that you aren't able to get by with Shemira there. I'd put her on the pedestal (instead of a resonating target) and level her past 100 and see if that does you any favors.

Legendary Shemira should get you at least through chapter 10 when max leveled

[shadow remnant]

Still stuck here >.<

[halcyon drum]

Use your Hogan - Legendary with factional advantage is nice here.

Not sure why our Ls are 120 and not 121+ - are you lacking essence?

[gilded dome]

Any fun ideas?

[shadow remnant]

Yes I need 1k so I can take them all over the 120

Sad times. I think I’ll be stuck until these are levelled up.

[halcyon drum]

That's rough. Still, I'd try use Hogan. Position Mirael back center as well to fully utilize her ult.

[shadow remnant]

I think this may get me through if I’m blessed by the rng gods

If rosaline doesn’t survive to get her ult off. Should I drop for Arden ?

[shell shuttle]

help

[shadow remnant]

What’s your pool? You’ll need to be ccing isabella to win this fight

[reef lance]

This is my current lineup getting decimated in this stage

Any idea

[shell shuttle]

@shadow remnant

[shadow remnant]

Hmm it’s a shame you don’t have Nara. She’s a good cc bot

[shell shuttle]

f

[shy pagoda]

Any thoughts for this stage?

[shadow remnant]

You could try shemira and hope she’s silences Isabella. @shell shuttle

FYI. Turn this on

[halcyon drum]

Easily my worst faction tower. Trying to cheese to floor 60 for the 12 rare pulls and the four mythics quest, but it’s looking bleak.

Can this even be saved, or should I just put Wilders faction tower on hold until I luck into a Saurus/Eironn (x2) pull and can make a Mythic of them? (I can make L+ Respen, but only by eating all my food.)

[shell shuttle]

ty

[shell shuttle]

it works but my daimon keeps dying

[magic igloo]

Joker is great because of the same faction on the opposing team

[shadow remnant]

Who too ? What’s your formation now

[royal stag]

Try Prince and Arthur Front
Albedo, rowan and ainz

[shy pagoda]

Not working, unfortunately. I'll keep running it and see if anything happens

[limber glade]

Ainz

Arthur
Rowan
Talene
Albedo

[shy pagoda]

Albedo just dies instantly on the frontline

[limber glade]

What about Ainz? Does he ult?

Try that one instead, edited the comp

[shy pagoda]

Yeah ainz gets an ult off

I've put my best equipment on albedo and she's surviving longer now but no ult

[worldly apex]

still stuck here, trying this formation from afkhelper but its not getting anywhere

[honest storm]

Neednhelp pls... I have one slot for in RC

[magic igloo]

Daimon Thoran Oden Rowan Ferael, portal the estrilda unto the thoran to stall and just cc and dps them with faction adv

[worldly apex]

i tried this yesterday but i'll just macro it and go make food lmao

[magic igloo]

Yep xd

[zealous acorn]

I cant finish this even with the winning lineup in replays. Lucretia keeps dying after one ult

[errant zinc]

Just retry thats it

[worldly apex]

never beat it, sadge

[shy pagoda]

Thoughts?

[celest slate]

Should I switch anyone on my lineup?

[fading jasper]

Check out #classic-questions pinned messages, idk why you have 9 heroes levelled

[celest slate]

The first couple that are leveled were heroes that I got at the beginning

[fading jasper]

You don't need to level up more than 5 heroes, there is resonating crystal for that. You should check some guides

[pale kettle]

🙏

[frosty birch]

Who should I use to beat this

[stray canyon]

Need help (peaks of time, so I don’t have a lot of units)

[snow fiber]

Stuck on this lvl for a while this lineup gets me the farthers just cant ever beat it any ideas?
https://gyazo.com/24423eb773bc5260ccf1f13a615d2193
https://gyazo.com/eaf3eaa79cb2eb69d1225fd96873c349

[pale kettle]

@snow fiber Lyca, Ferael, Eironn, Ainz, idk how well Lucius will do but you need someone to stall

Also try Nara If you have her in middle to drag Safiya

[warm sky]

Best pvp lineup?

[storm epoch]

either this sub 5th flex ferael daimon for saf u can also go gwyn burst if comfy with it eironn lyca zol/estrilda lorsan gwyn

[warm sky]

Thanks

[sleek maple]

Im stuck on stage 14-21

[halcyon drum]

If you have the essence and exp, take Rowan and Shemira off the pedestal and put Golus and Saveas on. Level them both to 141+ so everyone on the Crystal gets the skill up. That entire second row could be as high as 160 if you put the first row on the pedestals

[fossil thicket]

any tips?

[stray canyon]

Help

[halcyon drum]

What does your Resonating Crystal look like? And your level up resources (hero xp, gold, essence)? I’m genuinely confused that you have a L+ Mirael without levels and an E Nara with them.

[sleek maple]

ty sooooo much im new and i forgot i can make them 160 hehe

[halcyon drum]

You got it 👍

[vital pine]

Any ideas on how to beat this?

[fierce viper]

Do you have thoran? This kind of stage is perfect for him, because you only would have to pull 1 enemy in Nara or kelthur. If not, I would probably try using a combo of Daimon with gorvo, Lyca and Brutus to tank and CC

[oak magnet]

I know this is a low stage but I just wanted some advice clearing it if I can right now.

Here’s my hero pool

[lyric yew]

@pale kettle

wait wrong image i think

[pale kettle]

Why is your mehira not in the resonating crystal

[lyric yew]

see the unloaded ones in first image

also ive tried mehira comps, she dies instantly

[pale kettle]

Do you have a thoran?

Help

[lyric yew]

no

[pale kettle]

Try daimon back row and swap estrilda for talene for the sustane

[pale kettle]

Try this and if that doesn’t work swap rosa for mireal

[lyric yew]

k

failed again

[pale kettle]

How close

[lyric yew]

everyone except brutus and daimon survived 5> seconds

[pale kettle]

How many enemies were left?

[lyric yew]

5

[pale kettle]

.-. Well how is your gear situation

[lyric yew]

very few heroes have enhanced gear since i dont wanna enchance gear that isnt factioned

[pale kettle]

What part is enhanced boots are the most important

[lyric yew]

just realized nobody u recommended has enchanced gear 💀

[pale kettle]

Not even your carry?

[lyric yew]

nope hes wearing 3 mauler legendary piece then factionless elite boots

low on gold

[pale kettle]

Do you have those gold chests?

[lyric yew]

no

[pale kettle]

Welp i cant help you from here .-.

[lyric yew]

:pain:

[pale kettle]

@lyric yew I saw your name do you need help with 11-36?

[lyric yew]

yes

[pale kettle]

what’s your team?

[lyric yew]

scroll up

[pale kettle]

ok so you know how the order of heros goes 1-5? and if so do you know the positions of each number?

@lyric yew

[lyric yew]

yup

[pale kettle]

Daimon, Rosa, Lucious, Mirael, Shemira. If that doesn’t work swap shemira and rosa

that’s very close to my team at chapter 11

set rosa to daimon @lyric yew

[lyric yew]

mm ok

[pale kettle]

I had rosa on diamon till chapter 12

[lyric yew]

failed both teams

[pale kettle]

hmm

[pale kettle]

Maybe just grind out until you can level up your team or acend them a little bit

[lyric yew]

can ascend rosa to mythic using mirael tho i doubt thats a good idea

[pale kettle]

do you use her in your team?

[lyric yew]

mirael is used yea

[pale kettle]

Shemira is better so if you can get her to Mireal’s level you can use Mireal to acend rosa

[lyric yew]

ok

i can reset mirael for the resources needed, but then my pentagram will 💩

[pale kettle]

is shemira on your pentagram?

[lyric yew]

yea

[pale kettle]

@lyric yew I would take Tasi off the pentagram and start working on her because she is really good once she reaches L+

[lyric yew]

but who else do i put on the pentagram

besides ive heard many times shemira isnt good to be a main carry

[pale kettle]

she isn’t

that’s what daimom is for because you’re still early so he’s gonna breeze past early levels with enough levels

[lyric yew]

so why level shemira

[pale kettle]

To replace Mireal

Mireal can’t go past L+

[lyric yew]

cant get l+ shemira so

[pale kettle]

deff wait till then

[lyric yew]

i mean m shemira

imo mirael is just better since burst and shield but idk

[pale kettle]

for now keep her until you get to a point where you can get M shemira

[fossil thicket]

help

[viscid pasture]

Take off Lyca, put Lucretia in the front and Rowan in the back.
Put Daimon in the front and Prince behind... that means take away Brutus

[fossil thicket]

kk ill try thanks

daimon in the position where lucretia stands now?

[viscid pasture]

No, Daimon in Brutus spot, Prince on Daimon spot, Lucretia on Lyca spot and Rowan on Lucretia spot

[fossil thicket]

thanks man i got it

[viscid pasture]

Amazing!
😃

[shell shuttle]

late response sry

[marble sage]

Anyone know a lineup, i an stuck at stage 3-36

[halcyon drum]

What’s your exp situation like? Feel like this one’s just solved by getting levels on people

[marble sage]

Sorry what are you asking now?

[halcyon drum]

Do you have spare experience to level up heroes?

[marble sage]

No thats the problem i think

[halcyon drum]

Then try Hogan Golus Rosaline Mirael Lyca, pairing Rosaline to Mirael

[marble sage]

This?

This is exactly the lineup i was using

[halcyon drum]

Yes

[shell shuttle]

@halcyon drum help, stuck at 9-32

[halcyon drum]

If you have space on the Resonating Crystal, you could use Thali instead

[marble sage]

Thali instead of?

[halcyon drum]

Lyca

[west fog]

have you tried swapping daimon and shemira? shemira can tank pretty well early on because of her self-heal and shields, to let daimon ramp up. also just retry like 100x if you feel like it's an RNG issue--if you think that gear upgrades are going to be what pushes you over that edge, then just retry more

[shell shuttle]

alr

[west fog]

if you absolutely cannot do anything, just AFK for a day or two. also try swapping arden for rosa or mehira, have rosaline follow daimon

[shell shuttle]

kk

@west fog getting pretty close with this one

[west fog]

maybe oden for mehira, but just keep retrying

[halcyon drum]

I swear I must be losing my mind when I look at this, because I SEE seven heroes with experience in them (Mirael, Thoran, Daimon, Shemira, Lyca, Lucretia, Arden). What does your Rickety Cart look like? Here’s mine for reference:

[shell shuttle]

@halcyon drum yea

i will reset mehira and lyca

[main horizon]

Any help or suggestion for this one ?

[halcyon drum]

Actually, what does your Heroes page look like? You may want to reset Arden too (for now) for any Elite+ hero you can find, to get to 120+ on the Resonating Crystal

[summer cedar]

sheesh dude u suck (this is a joke for anyone reading we're friends)

[upbeat fossil]

uninstall

[halcyon drum]

Also reset Arden. Pump Saveas. But also, you are SO CLOSE to Legendary+ Daimon (just need one more Elite Silvina) and once you get him + get him to 160, the next few chapters will be trivial

[shell shuttle]

that‘s why I am tryna complete chapter 9 within the next 36 mins to get the faction scrolls I need for a 10 summon on GB

[halcyon drum]

Then pump Saveas to 120 with the exp you get from resetting the other three. Having level 120 heroes on the Crystal will help for sure

Then, use Saveas for this fight. He drain tanks pretty well and has factional advantage against the back row wilders. Replace Arden with him

Also, get Mirael to level 121+ AT LEAST so you get the next ability rank

[shell shuttle]

@halcyon drum only vedan is alive

[fossil thicket]

any ideas for that?

[narrow portal]

i just started yesterday, what do i upgrade and stuff because i don’t really know much

[halcyon drum]

Retry, swap your front line, see what works. You're close enough that a lineup mirror might fix it

[halcyon drum]

Power level Mirael to 160, as well as some of your other rare heroes (Arden, Ogi, Silvina and Saveas/Golas are good starts and use all four factions). Level them up instead of Wu Kong and Flora (who you should reset), because it'll be damn near impossible to ascend Wu Kong or Flora at this point (you can't put Celestials on the wish list, and they're expensive to get outside of random draws). This is the least pull-dependent way to get five heroes to level 160. Then, when you have enough copies of good factional heroes (I see you already have Lucius and Rowan, those will play great for you), use the Legendary+ rare heroes you got as food to get them to Mythic

[stray canyon]

Help

[halcyon drum]

What does your full heroes list look like, and what does your Rickety Cart look like? Baffled that you are capped at level 100 when there are Elite+ and even a Legendary+ Mirael just sitting there at level 1

[stray canyon]

I don’t use mireal as a main damage dealer rn, building up Gwyenth, and I don’t have a lot of hero that aren’t capped at lvl 100 and that are wilders

[open hedge]

Tbh idk what’s a good formation for the heroes I have

[stray canyon]

I also don’t use my ogi a lot, I use thorin

[halcyon drum]

I don’t think you quite understand what I’m getting at. You only have a level cap of 100 because you’re using Elites instead of Elite+ and Legendary heroes on the pedestal. The five heroes you level up at this stage in the game absolutely should be the heroes with the highest level cap, and that isn’t whatever five rando Elites you have right now (capped at 100)

You absolutely could just put Mirael and some of your Elite+ heroes on the pedestal and have everyone at 120 right now, and these fights would be breezy

[stray canyon]

Did I forget this is the peak of times secrets of the forest?

[halcyon drum]

How is that relevant?

[stray canyon]

The one you have to use wilders to get to the places

That stronghold, and I don’t have any good wilders that are elite + or legendary

[halcyon drum]

I’m sure you do. And if you put Mirael and some Elite+ heroes on the pedestal, your rando Wilders would be level 120 instead of 100.

Which is a much easier fight to manage

[stray canyon]

Alright, I’ll level up the elite plus and legendary hero’s

[halcyon drum]

Thank you. After you’ve done that, let’s see where you’re at 👍

[halcyon drum]

Put either Estrilda or Shemira in the front (depending on whether or not Shemira can tank or not) and place Daimon in the back. Daimon can chain ultimates when he’s not the main damage soak.

[fossil thicket]

can anyone help me with the first trials of god? would be really nice (maybe in DM to not spam the chat)

[open hedge]

Ohh thank you

[halcyon drum]

Also, if you have the spare exp, level Eironn to level 101+ in order to get everyone on the resonating crystals their next skill up. It’s a decent power boost over where you’re at now. Then, level everyone up as per normal

[open hedge]

I’m really trying, I just don’t have enough dust😭

[halcyon drum]

Oof. Maybe dailies will help?

[open hedge]

Good idea, I’m trying to do anything to get dust, I’m still like 700 away😔

[narrow portal]

What changes should i make

[halcyon drum]

You're off to an okay start. Keep pumping Mirael to 160 (using only other rare heroes as food) and do the same with the rare heroes of other factions (Ogi/Arden, Saveas/Golus, and Silvina/Vedan are good priority targets) just to get five heroes on the level 160 pedestal without too much draw dependency. Rowan/Lucius is a great start for Lightbringers, but you could use some other faction pulls as well

[storm epoch]

think i remember seeing your box either godcomp,ainzbedo work lmk if u still need help entering now keeps the enemys lvl the same just leave debuffs preset to overlvl it if too hard

[fossil thicket]

i think that wasnt my box 😂

[storm epoch]

oh lol ill just send the debuffs i ran then mb haha

[final hazel]

Was relying on this you may not pass white tank guy but he’s trial monster idk who to build to replace him

Top 5 what I useing

Sauras dies immediately so idk how to use him at all

I’ll try zolrath ig idk

[west fog]

taint goes on oscar... what do I do here

[pale kettle]

This is what I have been using but idk if it’s good

[final hazel]

Yes that’s good

[final hazel]

Put Belinda in the middle

[tepid jolt]

Who do i use

And where

[final hazel]

Use shimera instead of rosaline

[tepid jolt]

Alright

[pale kettle]

Oh ok, thank you

[final hazel]

U need to get a tank

[tepid jolt]

i need a tank as well right?

[final hazel]

U have a rlly good one

Could probs get 2 tanks tho

[outer quiver]

Any ideas? I can beat the first one with that, but i ran out of ideas as to what to use for the second, tried a few and no good results

[tepid jolt]

wait who?

[final hazel]

Gezhul

[tepid jolt]

oh btw is ankhira good for my team? @final hazel

[open hedge]

Would anyone please give me some input of how I’m doing? If I should put anyone in the resonating crystal or if I’m building the right characters? Thank you!

[pale kettle]

To be honest idk if I have one

[final hazel]

Ya

[tepid jolt]

who should i replace

[open hedge]

Well if you build Shemira that Graveborn lady you have at the top she acts as one in the early stages

[final hazel]

The maid lady

[tepid jolt]

alr took rosaline out

[pale kettle]

Ok, cool thanks

[tepid jolt]

which?

[final hazel]

It’s good how it is

[tepid jolt]

alr

what stage would this team get me to?

[tepid jolt]

wtf..

[final hazel]

Idk u prob want another tank

[tepid jolt]

like

[final hazel]

I saw somewhere taht it should be 3 tanks 1 carry 1 support

[tepid jolt]

hmmm

[tepid jolt]

@final hazel is bitterblight good

[final hazel]

Show me picture

[final hazel]

That guy yes

[tepid jolt]

3rd row second from the right

[desert drift]

Oden is busted

[tepid jolt]

replacing who? saurus and ghezrul are elite +

[final hazel]

Maybe that graveborn

I forgot namethe women

[tepid jolt]

shemira?

[final hazel]

U can go to rickety cart and reset heros u not using for xp for oden

[final hazel]

Ya

[tepid jolt]

okay

[tepid jolt]

is that the dude i just got?

[final hazel]

Ya

[tepid jolt]

kk

[desert drift]

he comes in clutch in early game too

especially when brutus is about to ult and wipe out ur whole squad

[tepid jolt]

is oden support?

what should i level him to?

everyone on my team is 31 except wukong who is 51

[desert drift]

just go all in on wu kong until he is around 120 or so

[final hazel]

He’s ranged

[tepid jolt]

i levelled wukong to 70

[desert drift]

oden doesnt do that good dmg until his signature item is unlocked

[tepid jolt]

oh

[desert drift]

you should be doing good as long as u all in on wu kong

[tepid jolt]

how do i unlock it?

also how do i upgrade wukong

[desert drift]

wu kong falls off late game so dont worry about upgrading wu kong, all u need now is just level up wu kong

[tepid jolt]

Oh

so who then?

[desert drift]

save them for merlin and dont buy heroes from that unless u really need it and u only need arthur and wu kong

[tepid jolt]

where?

[solar ore]

Daimon ults twice but can't kill Lucius, what do?

[tawdry cape]

There anything I can do to improve my chances of winning or do I just wait for better rng

[desert drift]

daimon prince lyca rowan oden ( if prince dies try switching with daimon and if doesnt work try switching lyca with silas )

[desert drift]

idk but r u unironically trying to thoran cheese against flora?

[tawdry cape]

that is the point of thoran, yes

[desert drift]

r u being able to kill all except flora?

[tawdry cape]

More like 1 or 2

[storm epoch]

think estrilda thoran talene lorsan pippa not sure if i ran flora aswell tho

[tawdry cape]

he guaranteed ults 1-2x but it gets blocked/dodge a lot

[desert drift]

just lucretia cheese i can lend u mine

[tawdry cape]

using luc cheese on wave 4

i can try see what happens

[desert drift]

try doing pippa on middle with oden if u have oden

[supple hound]

defeated this exact stage yesterday, i just kept swapping my teams around until it worked haha. also, for ainz team i usually just use 4 heroes instead of 5 to use better heroes for another team.

my heroes were lvl 373 and i went with (cant rmb the exact order):
rosa, belinda, fawkes, gwen, lucius
daimon, brutus, rowan, grezhul, fareal
ainz, albedo, arthur, (randomly used flora cause i had a spare slot)
anything really, for the last stage

[desert drift]

idk but maybe https://afkhelper.nax.is/ this site might help u

[solar ore]

Nevermind, RNG pulled through and kill Lucius

[tawdry cape]

yeah thats where i came up with that thoran comp, it seemed to work for someone at lower crystal level so i wasnt sure if it was just rng

[desert drift]

do u have 5 pull

[tawdry cape]

yep

[desert drift]

can u send me ur heroes

[tawdry cape]

sure

[desert drift]

im doing 5 teams with no thoran cheese

[tawdry cape]

one sec, trying to get the other pic

its saying i cant send explicit content lol

[desert drift]

lol bro u wanna max that oden he is busted

i didnt even use my maxed out eironn and QUEEN

i was stuck in that stage for like 3 weeks

[tawdry cape]

oh u dont need 9 furn for oden?

[desert drift]

nah dude he is just so op

[tawdry cape]

i was putting him off cuz i thought u need furn maxed

[desert drift]

my daimon there did 130m and oden 150m

[solar ore]

Nobody's dying, even with Daimon crits. Daimon ults twice sometimes, gets interrupted by Warek and Skreg.

[pastel cedar]

Best lineup?

[shadow remnant]

Mirael is level 1 dude ?

[glad comet]

Hey guys new player here. It's my 3rd day I believe today. Is my team good enough if not whats the best replacement? Thanks guys 🙂

[grand perch]

Hello @glad comet,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[shell shuttle]

i am using her as bait for silvina

[open hedge]

I’m not an expert but I do know since many high level people have told me that it’s good to have your Daimon in the back line so other tanks soak up the dmg and he can chain ultimates, so keep him where you got him! Off to a great start!

[pale kettle]

Use to have Titus up there
Though trail ended

Who should I put up there now?

[maiden vapor]

i would not run frontline daimon, ur frontline should consist of something like brutus, rowan, thoran, or lyca

[pale kettle]

Eyy it worked thx

Joker
Rowan
Lucius
Lyca
Daimon

[maiden vapor]

also i would try not using lucius, look at afk helper for better comps

[humble seal]

lucius shield boi tho

[maiden vapor]

ya but he isnt very good at staying alive tho

[crude thicket]

Shemira

[pale kettle]

pls help me i am very bad

[coral pier]

Just read pins in here and #classic-questions

[solar ore]

Are you looking for a team suggestion or

[pale kettle]

yes i am

[lost basin]

hello, can anyone help me with 15-40? 🙏

[solar ore]

Actually wait why am I even thinking over this. Go read the pinned guide and scroll down to section Progression Guide: Level 1 - 100

Your team comp after that should look like:

Arden
Wukong
Mirael
Golus/Hogan
Silvina

[boreal hazel]

Any ideas how I can beat this?

[solar ore]

Nara pulls Isabella, not Mirael. Pull Talene where Rowan. You can swap out Merlin for CC or an actual Tank, you have enough healing with Talene and Rowan.

[boreal hazel]

Merlin is moreso for mitigating Isabella dmg but he’s so slow he doesn’t get his ult up in time

[solar ore]

Letting Isabella cast her ult is already a guaranteed loss. Either Isabella dies first or everyone dies to Daimon so that Isabella gets one-shot.

if the enemy comp has an Isabella and no other high priority targets like Ferael, Tasi, Ezizh, etc., you must hook Isabella.

[boreal hazel]

I see…uh…how do I keep her from doing her ult?

[solar ore]

Nara. Nara can keep her cc locked until she dies to something else, which in this case is gonna be the Hypogean Mage or Grezhul. Usually the former.

[boreal hazel]

Nara dies too quick

[solar ore]

You need a better tank, if you have a Brutus, put him on RC and slap him where Talene is

Your team comp should look like

Rowan
Talene
Daimon
Brutus
Nara

[boreal hazel]

I have Brutus but he’s linked to my merlin

And he doesn’t do very good at surviving

[solar ore]

Brutus buys your team a guaranteed 6~7 seconds. 6~7 seconds could be all that Daimon needs to get one ult and start stacking. It also lets Nara confirm a chain.

Do you have a Lyca?

[boreal hazel]

Yeah I have her but not raised or in the crustal

Which artifact do you recommend on each unit?

[solar ore]

Put her on Crystal. She provides a lot of support that Talene can't provide.

Daimon needs Call. That's literally the only important thing.
Rowan can also use Call but you don't have a 2nd one so just give him Grace.

You can slap an Eye on Nara and Lyca, and Brutus gets Drape.

[civic saffron]

Please, help me

[solar ore]

You've level capped yourself, you either reset or suffer the remaining months to get back on track. Read the pinned guide in #classic-questions and go to Progression Guide: Level 1 - 100.

[civic saffron]

Okey, thanks

[boreal hazel]

It’s not working still

[solar ore]

What's the issue

[boreal hazel]

Sigh I wanna beat chapter 15 so I can stargaze

[solar ore]

Is Daimon getting stunned by Estrilda

[boreal hazel]

Everything is dying too quick and Isabella gets her ult up

[solar ore]

Does Daimon get to ult

[boreal hazel]

Yup

[solar ore]

Does Daimon kill anything during ult, who does he damage the most

[boreal hazel]

No he isn’t able to kill anything

Not with only 1 ult

Daimon doesn’t do enough dmg

[solar ore]

That's because Daimon only starts doing damage after he ults and steals the enemy's stats

[boreal hazel]

He doesn’t get to do a second in time

[solar ore]

By the time he does it a 2nd time the whole enemy team should be wiped, but putting that aside, what's happening?

Is Estrilda stunning Daimon?
Does Mirael cast ult?
Does Nara and Rowan die suddenly (because of Hypogean Mage)
Does Grezhul cast ult and stun Daimon?

In what order does this happen?

[boreal hazel]

He isn’t getting stunned

[solar ore]

If he's not getting stunned then he should be freely smacking everything

[boreal hazel]

Maybe toward the end he’s getting stunned but Rowan and Nara die way too fast

And Isabella is tanking daimon’s first and second hits and then does ult

My problem is when Isabella gets her ult up then it’s game over

[solar ore]

Have you checked the damage charts? Is it the mage that's killing Nara and Rowan?

[boreal hazel]

I don’t know.

I just wanna beat this 😞

I HATE fighting Isabella and Mirael

[solar ore]

Try hooking the mage in middle with Nara and put Daimon below Brutus

[boreal hazel]

Nope…everyone still dying too quick and Daimon can’t get 2-3 more ult up

[solar ore]

Show me your box

[solar ore]

Okay, something dumb you can try.

Lyca
Talene
Eironn
Brutus
Daimon

[boreal hazel]

Eirron and lyca die almost instantly

[solar ore]

Put Nara back in, and honestly, run a macro.

Sometimes an impossible stage seems impossible because of RNG. Some stages could take an upwards of 50 tries to clear just for Daimon to roll the right RNG and wipe everyone. It's what a lot of people do.

[boreal hazel]

I don’t run macros

[solar ore]

Well you should at some point, otherwise you're going to be bashing your head into a wall on the same stage over and over.

[boreal hazel]

I don’t know how

[solar ore]

Download an emulator (Bluestacks, Nox, Memu, whichever. Go with Bluestacks if you're unsure.), download AFKArena, log into that AFKArena and set up a macro using the Emu's tools. There's plenty of guide to teach you how.

This is super helpful in the long run, trust me.

[pale kettle]

^

[boreal hazel]

Uh…I don’t play mobile games on my computer

[solar ore]

Well consider this your first step unless you can't. AFKArena is a game where running a stage 100 times is normal because RNG hates us.

[boreal hazel]

I can’t

[solar ore]

Well, good luck. Also read the pinned guide in #classic-questions. You may find some answers there especially in the Progression Guide section.

[solar ore]

Why is your +30 Rowan away from your Daimon. Stick those two together no matter what.

[maiden vapor]

try lyca over nara and see if that stops banish

[gusty flare]

best lineup suggestion?

[coral pier]

There is nothing that special you even can do. I guess 2 tanks frontline, and fill backline with mirael-rowan and either silvina or arden

[upbeat fossil]

good that you're following the pins. Golus Hogan front, Mirael Rosa back with 1 flex support
level Mirael to 160, then Golus Hogan evenly till 160
Rosa can be E it's fine. her job is to provide energy for Mirael double ults
use Call on Mirael and Rosa, or Eye on Rosa if insufficient Call slots

[gusty flare]

I was using rosa till now, it just felt really good with mira, but she is only E

thanks for the tips. I was pretty much doing what you guys told me to, just wanted to check if I was missing out on something

[mellow nacelle]

need help, kinda stuck

[broken niche]

help

[fiery wing]

need help, kinda stuck here

[foggy apex]

Any tips?

[brave oriole]

@foggy apex yeah, you should leave everyone 120,and push daimon to 160 first. Then lvl the others

[maiden mountain]

Can someone help 25-3?

[fathom flare]

Help?

[turbid minnow]

Team help?

[shell shuttle]

i am stuck, help
https://gyazo.com/08ceac059dc1e93fb82abb7b74506060
https://gyazo.com/dbcdfddb633289c4cccfdfc67ec7eb77
https://gyazo.com/06a34233fd045326c874fe00fff4ad3d

nvm just did it

[magic igloo]

Ascend your daimon as well

[shell shuttle]

i need one more rare+ gb hero

[magic igloo]

Ahh didn’t see mb

[pale kettle]

Try
1-lucius
2-That wolf guy don’t know his name
3-mirael
4-rowan
5-Lyca.
I don’t know if it will work but u can try

[mortal arrow]

Help with my Line up pls??

[sleek delta]

@viral dock try
Daimon

Brutus
Rowan
Alna
Oden/tasi

[viral dock]

@sleek delta okay i try

It work ty

[sleek delta]

All good

[viral dock]

Always full hp any idea ?

[acoustic axle]

What to do

[fossil thicket]

any help?

[burnt cargo]

need help

[odd mirage]

what do i do im getting wrecked

[pale kettle]

I need a line up help, I need a team that will be useful against almost all chapters in early game so that I wouldn't have to reset each time, right now I'm in chapter 5

[odd mirage]

well eironn and wu kong are great early game carries id put them in front and your other 3 elite wilders in the back

but either way youll need more ascending to proceed

[pale kettle]

Yep that's what I'm doing but having basically a wilder team make me vulnerable especially against mauler in chapter 5 and 6

[odd mirage]

well i was always carried by shemira and daimon and i never had any problems just bc of wilders

[pale kettle]

👍

[boreal hazel]

Any ideas?

[limpid berry]

Hook Isabella, and place Rowan where nara currently is

And put daimon where Rowan is

[boreal hazel]

Not quick enough

Isabella gets her ult up and it’s game over

Nemisu is annoying too…

Keeps putting up more towers that make it that much harder

Plus nemisu is putting up a tower and Nara goes for that instead of Isabella

[storm epoch]

need bait for isa brutus will always be a target 5th slot where tasi is flex rosa,nara,ferael also work

[boreal hazel]

Brutus is linked to my merlin and I don’t have Tasi

[storm epoch]

sub rosa or nara ferael there drop merlin imo otherwise theyll invade early on

[boreal hazel]

Oh! I did it!

[shell shuttle]

how do I stop isabella from ulting
https://gyazo.com/d1e7324c23870a1263a4c0d1c8edb7ad

[boreal hazel]

Oh come on! Another stage with Isabella and nemisu?! Whyyyy

[pastel cedar]

Best lineup? Got no idea lol

[heavy beacon]

what would the best lineup be

[feral mountain]

Tips?

[strong badge]

Show your box

[upbeat fossil]

Firstly you need fix your 5 levelled heroes. You have to level up Wu Kong to Lv.100 and level up 4 fodder heroes.

Read the pinned beginner guide (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565578751715573770/852145728733839400/Guide-205.png) first, if you're still confused about what to do then read my explanation in the Google Doc link below.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xcT34gPd9WS8Ivb9kZGmAP6qnoIzFFUUmyNETq1J_kg

[boreal hazel]

Ideas?

[strong badge]

Try this

[magic python]

what can i do to improve my team?

[sour flax]

try talene-rowan tanks and daimon middle? rowan and talene are both pseudo-tanks

[boreal hazel]

Ok

[foggy apex]

Ok

[boreal hazel]

That worked! Thank you

[foggy apex]

Doesn't work

[boreal hazel]

Does Shemira provide a shield? Isabella is getting a barrier so I can’t do any dmg to her

[strong badge]

Which enemy is doing the most damage

[boreal hazel]

Whoa! You have an ascended hero and you’re only at chapter 13?!

[strong badge]

Does Lyca die at the start?

[foggy apex]

Yes

[foggy apex]

Got him today

[strong badge]

Place thoran on the resonating crystal and replace lyca with him

[boreal hazel]

I’m working on getting my Daimon to mythic+

[foggy apex]

Ok

[magic python]

im at chapter 13 and i only just got my first few mythics, now im stuck at 13-32, everyone dies instantly but rowan and izold

[boreal hazel]

I’m at the end of chapter 15 and I only have 2 mythics. I just need one more Brutus to take Brutus (and by extension merlin) to mythic

[magic python]

ive been trying to pull for characters such as daimon but im always low on gems, and with barley any gear ive basically softlocked myself

[foggy apex]

Ty

[strong badge]

Nice

[boreal hazel]

Anyone have ideas for what to do here?

[magic python]

i sitll have no clue how to improve, does anyone have tips?

[foggy apex]

But with 2 mythic is not always 1 v 5 like my daimon, and I need levels couse my account's 1 week old

[magic python]

1 WEEK?

[boreal hazel]

My account is 2-3 weeks old

[magic python]

mine is a few months old and im still in early game, probably cause i took a lot of breaks and made stupid decisions

[boreal hazel]

Sigh guess I’m stuck until I can use a joker merc 😞

[outer tusk]

Any suggestions on how to beat this team in VoW Forgotten Ruins? I probably have to restart since some of my heroes are dead already

My hero box + Ainz and Saurus merc

[sour flax]

use hero type advantages when stuck like that. you are against 5 GB so try using your lyca and eironn with your 3 other best heroes, and change up order. sometimes trying a fight that you killed 3 enemies in is worth trying a whole bunch

[boreal hazel]

I see

[pale kettle]

how long does ainz stay alive for

[outer tusk]

With the heroes left, he can get 1 ult before dying

[digital skiff]

Merc a 309 luc or daimon or izold then, no bedo arthur means ainz does shit damage

[outer tusk]

The does...maybe less than half health on the enemy, which gets replenished

I never used any other merc besides Ainz and Saurus haha. I'll try going for a luc or Izold. Thanks!

[icy parcel]

VoW should be approached in a similar way to Lab, you want to keep energy from battle to battle in order to have an advantage at battle start, also, Saurus will probably do better than Ainz a tyour current state
You could need to restart in order to not lose heroes, and reach that battle in a better energy/health state

[foggy apex]

Help?

[digital skiff]

I'd go izold because he scales pretty nice without supports for you

[pale kettle]

saurus is shit, tried him on alt for last battle and he got shitted on

[digital skiff]

Saurus takes too long as a solo guy, get 309/303 izold or luc

[outer tusk]

Sure, I was planning on restarting to have my M Daimon and Ferael as well.

Thanks for the help everyone!

[pale kettle]

u dont have to restart as theres only 1 battle left, just go at x1 speed and hope for nice nrg

[boreal hazel]

Hm…well that might have helped a bit, I still sadly lose cuz Isabella gets her ult up. Lyca and Eirron are dying too quick

[icy parcel]

I dont mean as a soloer, I mean as second frontliner, gives good buffs and heals

[outer tusk]

Oh I forgot this is the last battle lol. Alright I'll try for an Izold merc and see what happens

[digital skiff]

Or better yet, do merc cycle

Do izold, if he dies then he dies, if he kills 1-2 off. Merc again and repeat

[pale kettle]

oh, i thought u were referring to OP's situation. my b

[boreal hazel]

Is Kaz worth raising?

[smoky anvil]

Yo guys, need some help with formations, anything you'd change on the current ones? Ideas for new ones, maybe portal party/pull? What would be the overall better for singles?

[pale kettle]

whats your raku progress? and how many more garrisons until ainzbedo is free?

[outer tusk]

Now that you mention it, I can still use a different Ainz merc even though my first merc died. Never notice I could use the same heroes again

[smoky anvil]

raku is 4 copies, I was going for tasi before HCP'ing him tho
Ainzbedo needs 5/6 garrisons for each, so many dims recently it's kind of hard to garrison

[clear wren]

@smoky anvil what’s your Silas progress? He’s good for izold comp

[smoky anvil]

8 copies, but my grez is at 5f so I'm probably doing him first

[clear wren]

Fair

[boreal hazel]

Think I just need to accept that I’m stuck until I can use a joker merc

[pale kettle]

after you build raku you can make mehira raku comp with either lyca or kren (wants 203 iirc), you have luc 5pull as another team, with pippa 20 might be able to make a decent thoran cheese team with pippa thoran lorsen kelthur ezizh and a 4th team could be a hodge podge of your remaining units so like daimon izold grez with some heals/support