#lineup-help
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I believe in you
Yeah but I need to finish that damned stage lol
Yeah same, shits rough
I just need Ainz to ult twice damnit
I am once again asking can someone please help
what happens
That athalia kills her opposite and allows Ainz to ult once before shredding him with her ult
I need someone to kill that atha
i dont think u can kill her with anyone except for ainz
Yeah but I need Ainz to ult twice
Guys does raku need full t3 set?
And her ultimate shreds him
Rowan next to Ainz, Brutus opposite Athalia
no, T3 weapon and boots are good enough also this kind of q goes in #classic-questions
Does Ainz stay in his place
Wait wrong chat š
Yes
What about the front 2 positions
Two tanks, remove PoP for Lucius
And daimon for another tank
Keep Daimon if he can survive
Your comp is all over the place, you need one carry and the team revolving around the carry
Your set up right now is really messy hahaha
Iām stuck on same level any help?
Ermā¦. Maybe it will be easier to explain how a team comp works
The simplest one would be 1 carry in the back together with two supports. Two tanks in the front. Then swap around the positions depending on the stage
I put brutus there to tank the hit from athalia
Closest I've got with that Is when lucius got his ult in
Ainz was a little bit away from a second ult but athalias ult shredded him before he reached there
Did you check which enemy is doing the damage?
Athalia
If rowan can get a ult in (he is so close to getting one in) ainz will definitely ult twice
Try Daimon front top Lucius front bottom Ainz back top Desira back mid Brutus back bottom
Dude why is athalias ult so damn broken
Does the fight last more than 24 seconds?
I'll try that but I need to prevent athalia from ultimate someway
Itās not broken, your team comp is just terrible and you invested in the wrong heroes at the beginning
I need some help with that also I havenāt pulled another Rowan so thatās why I donāt have him leveled up
20 is the average
Read the pins and youāll know what to do
Get it to 24 for ainzās passive to activate
Did your shemira survive in the front line? Or does she die instantly?
Mine
Have you tried shemira instead of Daimon?
Shem is linked to Ainz
Ohā¦.. no dim key?
No
How do u get them anyways
Does your Daimon do any damage? Or is ainz enough?
No daimon doesnt do damage
It also depends on which position I put him in
Any ideas?
Then remove diamon for another support or tank
@jade shore I just won and idk how I just kept doing it over and over
I believe in you youāll get it eventually :)
Ok now the problem is thane
When I kill athalia successfully thane decides to murder me
Grats bro
You tried out this comp? @jade shore
I used all my emblems on Rowans si, my main goal rn is rowan 30
Yes, thatās good
Desira gets oneshotted
Any place i put her in so I replaced her with lyca for the haste
Thank you for ur advice
You need her to cast fog
No
In 15 tries with her she couldnt cast it even once
She gets oneshotted by thane or belinda everytime
Now the problem is thane damnit
Why does he not die after Ainz second ult
It could be because heās using his skill during ainz second ult
So he canāt get hit during that time
This after like 30 tries I got one which everyone died and thane shredded me
I am stuck here, any advice? Or just gotta AFK for resources⦠Iām 6k essence from levelling Saurus, donāt want to waste on my support and Iām locked by my Thoran for now
Whatās the lyca for?
Haste
What do you need the haste for?
It worked
to get saurus rolling in theory, edit: thought you meant my lyca lol
Thank u so much for ur time @languid knot
Itās all good haha
Would haste be useful here? Or can i replace the lyca
Can Eironn still pull without the Lyca haste?
Yes
Tasi Arden is destroying you
Yup
Ok
You can fill in the other two with support/tank whichever is higher level and ascension
Like this?
Could try it out
holy crap i just put a poorly equipped hogan in front and beat the round haha
If you read the pins, you wouldnāt be surprised haha
Which one is better and what Shuld I work on
Already answered in #classic-questions
Ik but I need more than 2 answers lol cuz no one going in depth
I cant get pass the treeās passive healing
work on the easiest heroes to ascend, and prioritize resources in your carry 1st, tank 2nd
Lack of damage? Who lives and who dies?
Rowan
Daimon
Mirael
Ogi
Silas/Arden
Licretia and daimon are the only ones who live
Read the pins and youāll know everything
Thatās both your carries and the tree still doesnāt die? Try a few times
Ok
If you can SI 20 Daimon, do it ASAP
Try swapping Luc and Rowan
Screenshot all your heroes
Please make me a good team
Try using Nara on Isabella
Seems like you're missing levels too
I recommend you read this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/852145728733839400/Guide-205.png, Especially the bottom left part
Try your 3 mythic heros and deimon and izold?
Who me?
Yea
Who is Deimon and izold XD
Those undead
Yea sorry, looked at wrong pic
Luscious, Brutus, Rosaline, Shemira and Zaph
I'm surprised you don't have anyone on resonate crystal @scarlet valve
No woories
Did you try what I suggested?
Yes
Any ideas? Last level of the misty valley
Nevermind, got it done with athalia to counter fawkes
Any team recommendations?
Stuck
Canāt get this comp to work... Any help is appreciated. Only r1 I need a solution for. Any help is appreciated.
Been stuck for a few days, any team recommendations?
try this its okay if u dont want to redo though from what i see r1 is way too hard with whats left
@full quarry make Rowan legendary for sure. Replace wukong with Thoran
I tried replacing wukong and thoran dies almost immediately for me
Thoran/Daimon/Rowan/Rosa(following Daimon)
if its okay with you i can pm each match stats aswell if needed thoran subs for ainzbedo if u dont have merlin
Thank you @storm epoch I will play around with this setup and let you know.
what should be my team..
Any idea here, daimon is my carry
something like this swapping ferael lyca positions fer subs with tasi u can try and merc a talene in brutus spot see if it works better or an arthur id totally go for lycas +20 btw it helps a bunch merc a 9/9 if possible
Hello hope I'm on the right Chanel. Some of one of my character gear disappeared. How can I get help?
This is my current heroes list. Who should I be using and where?
Current lineup Merlin is temp
Daimon Grezhul Tasi Nemora Desira will work well for you for awhile. Put Daimon on your wishlist if you haven't already.
Alrighty! Any way to keep flora? I know itās dumb for aesthetic but
Why are u so lucky š¦
I just keep pulling constantly
Hi all, do you have any idea how I could clear this level? Athalia keeps one shotting every single party member I throw at her, and the other enemies are tough too
Am I just hoping for lucky rng?
is eerion stealing rowans energy potion?
Not sure tbh
Try swapping nemora and shemira, or the Frontline, or both, try several times, if that doesn't work u need to level up something
well uh try stage again and lmk what happens
Like try again to figure out if Eironn is stealing energy?
Lyka instead of mauler or rowan, the faction bonus might overcome the mauler>wilder thing
wtf no, mauler is needed for 5 pull and rowan is needed for energy potion to get thoran to ult
Thoran has Call
does anyone else have call?
No
Then ainz instead of top left wilder
My biggest problem is Thoran only ever kills 3/4
i assume ainz is for team 2
who is surviving most of the time?
hmm i think ant might be dodgeing a bit so i would slap thoran with a T2 5* weapon and T2 5* boots if u havent dont that already
Thatās on there
I was also told to take some furn off to lower crit resist
is it mythic furn?
I have 3 red and 7 gold on, and only 1 red adds crit resist
hmm try it without any gold on and lmk what happens
Similar results, if anything he doesnāt get a chance to ult more
hmm maybe put back his furn and just keep retrying then
All furn? Or just 2 red and 4 gold?
So if Iām just killing 3 or 4 do I just hope for good rng?
yea just pray for nice rng ig
Okay, Iāll keep fiddling
gl
Lmao, just got it
grats
Stuck .-.
i saw people was using thoran cheese but it dont works for me any lineup help?
This stage is troubling me anything I can do to win this?
I need a team
Open to using mercs, trying to thoran cheese it
Hi can someone help me with Stage 11-39 please
What Shuld I change or add to this Iām currently stuck rn
Don't use shemira
Ok
Should I keep it like this
any help
Try daimon backline and anoki front? Daimon is a tank but he definitely shines brighter in the back
who do i replace someone with for anoki
Either oden or belinda it depends who has a higher impact/does more damage
okay, iāll try both of them to see which is better
If that doesnāt work try experimenting with maybe shemira sheās mega good at your level and also just swap people positions sometimes the rng will give you a win
alright iāll try that, thanks
Suggestions? My heroās just melt in like 2 seconds
Maybe try swapping daimon and talene
In use:
1: Lucretia 5pull Brutus Saf
2: Izold Silias Rowan Hendrik Fareal
3:
4: AAA Alna Pop
You can also try swapping either nara or Silas for silvina to try and kill the Isabella quickly
Oh I just did that one, whatās your issue?
Kaz refuses to die
Itās just dodge rng. Does Thoran have t2 5* gb weapon/boots?
Yes, and a T0 3* off fac helm
No chest
don't try to cheese a thoran. top 3 hardest hero to cheese
When you need helm for crit you want t0 5* gb but i donāt think it matters for this stage
try swapping daimon and rowan
put Rowan or Daimon front line and put Eironn in middle back line to disrupt Isabella.
Most importantly though, Pippa has to survive long enough for nemora to walk down into thoranās range
Everyone gets into range in time, problem is about 80 attempts in and flora still hasn't even dropped
80 attempts isn't a lot for a flora stage
It took me 100+ retries
Any ideas for this one? Been stuck on it for a while
I fucking hate Thoran already, I should've just 30'd peggy
try Nara opposite Isabella, and try swapping Rowan in also ... but tbh that looks like a deficit where you might just have to go afk for awhile
What other carryās do u have available?
is there a way i can pass thsi
- a few celepogs at E
you really need Rowan.
Hmmm yeah best bet might be to just keep trying
Man i cant seem to pull one, its so sad š
Oden does almost nothing, use arden
Arden? Idt i have one rn š
If you don't wanna use a merc just gonna have to thoran that fight with your box i'm pretty sure
I could merc
hard to tell without seeing your potential lineup. You need to disrupt their backline, especially Ferael. Rowan should definitely be front line, ditch Thorann, and put Eironn, Nara, or Tasi back line if you have any of them.
Btw take a look at the guide, all those legendaries are gonna hurt your progression
not sure if alna gb can do this without grez 9/9 but this is what i used on that stage
well flora doesn't like you so gl lol

Alna gb, thoran cheese, and zolrath + stunlock are the main ways to deal with Flora
Ainz too depending on stage
Yeah I don't have a lot of key heros for the other two so I'm trying to use Thoran, but god he sucks
R2 took longer than r3 for me.
you don't need Arden for that stage, he'd be worthless for it. Oden is good for that stage, he'll take ults from Shemira, Ferael, or Isabella, which is what's going to wipe you. Sucks you've been unlucky with Rowan, you'd be able to win with him and Daimon front line, and then putting Nara back line against Shemira or Isabella. Tasi is worth a try.
I threw in lyca tasi and nemora and it worked first try š
Could AAA Pop work in this stage?
200 Ainz 300 Bedo 203 Arthur
Stuck any suggestions?
nice! grats
erm nothing like that works for me
Rowan Daimon front line Tasi Merlin Saurus back is prob your best move
I got shut down fast so didnāt work
Nvm I won
New problem right away damn these stages are tough
Thanks it also helped me beat the final battle in ch 12
I am stuck at this I need a team comp for this
nice! glad it worked out. Rowan front line is often the move. He's very tanky.
Maybe try eironn to pull the isabella?
Who should i replace in the team?
Can smone tel me if this is a good lineup or should I switch out for other characters
anything i should switch up?
id refrain from placing daimon frontline swap with rowan instead add pippa in center for portal party :p if i were to sub out id do bel its okay if u want to run bel though
hm i think iāll try that
I donāt think i have pippa, is there anything else i can use
your stuck here aswell?
yeah
arden for his roots(old guy) nem for her charm on feraels fear either would do imo
gl! both units need good rng to get cc on the right enemies should take a few tries ardens a bit more reliable if u want to stick with one
something like this?
take out nem for lyca keep center free to sub between arden or nem whichever comes closer
iām gonna be needing a stronger arden
Any ideas for this one?
nothing is really working
Is there anything I should switch?
Btw for the future, dont make legendary heroes unless you can take them to legend+
Dont make any more of your heroes legendary unless you are confident you can take them higher, also change up your wishlist, for now just super level up wukong and hell clear that for you
Alright thx I didnāt get the concept of legendarys
if needed i have some decent mercs add me ill send it thru pm
hmm okay
Yeah i didnt either and messed up my old acc š, had to restart
Lol thanks for the help
No problem
Wait what should I change my wishlist to
If you go to questions, go to the pinned stuff, and theres a whole beginners guide as well as optimal wishlist
Hi, I need help passing this stage. Everyone get one shot even Daimon so what should I do?
put Rowan front line, ditch Brutus for that fight. Put Eironn, Nara, or Tasi back line.
i have 2/3 of those and they arenāt as good
tbh what you have there looks really good, you might just have to afk for a bit.
you prob did already, but can try Ferael top against Ferael, and try swapping Lyca and Rowan spots.
@wooden lynx Thank you. Iāll try that. Maybe I need my team to reach lvl 200 too.
I'd imagine that Kaz prob kills your Lyca instantly. Really sucks you don't have Rowan, may the rng gods help you out with that soon ... does Daimon die quickly if you put him against tree guy? Then you could put Brutus against Kaz. Nara is prob better to disrupt Arden here, and Oden can steal Nemora ult.
Tysm man š, the thing is that daimon keeps getting banished and then its over from there
Oooh will try that out
Need some help pls
I haven't played in quite a while so I'm not sure if synergy has changed, is there any way I could improve this?
any tips?
Try
Lyca
Brutus
Eirron
Rowan
Ainz
thane and estrilda are just wiping the whole team no matter what i try
any tips?
Thoran, Talene, Daimon, Rowan, and Eironn. Why are you using Shem š¤Øš¤Ø
Yo is this a good team
This team is troubling me I need some help
ripp why would u ascend ur heros to L if u dont have the copies to get them to L+
What should I do?
im stuck on the exact same stage
Lol
the vedan is annoying asf
I can get gwyn to l+ tomorrow guarenteed and those were like before I knew it wasnāt worth it š
How did you get to a situation where you have an A tier hero but not even a single M?
try using eironn to pull the isabella
I donāt know
Ok
i got mine chapter 19 i think
ascending shemira isnt that hard. copies of her r easy to come by
I put more effort on getting my main lineup heroes to M+ and M then getting A
I wish I had an A shemira, could have an A tier pop
i have an ascended shemira. shes trash lmao
Not for use lol
oh yea u mean for crystal
For dim link
yea i linked trial merlin to her lmao
Shes linked to my prince of persia
and i put her on crystal
Shes crystal for me too
whos ur carry/
why is she 20 levels lower than ur brutus
Cause brutus is A tier 1 star
yea i also used her as my carry until i got ainz. i linked ainz to her
ohh u dont have enough copies to ascend her
Yea I dont only have 1 E+ of her need 1 more
yea u needa comp specifically for him
this is the comp iām using
i need 1 more copy of him for ascended
heās great even at E+
Should I refocus my team? Currently using Wu Kong, Brutus, Fawkes, Lucius, Nemora from top to bottom
Thats a hard comp for ainz fereal realy counters him
^
Lyca rowan - arden mirael raine/lucius/belinda/twins (for 3+2 bonus)
best lineup among this?
Can anyone help me with the this
Is this a good team or naahh
Wtf you dont use Eironn??? Remove Mirael and Put Eironn
Maybe Thoran, Daemon, Tasi, Ferael, Arden or Eironm
If I swap gywn and ferael, daimon gets one hit
Yea, merc a saurus and you should be good
Should I refocus my team? Currently using Wu Kong, Brutus, Fawkes, Lucius, Nemora from top to bottom
Set rowan, daimon and Alna in rc
Un equip the fodders from rc
Will do, thanks. New to the game so not sure which heroes are worth investing in or having in the RC as backup
What's best for ice shemira?
what do u reccomend
Try to swap Rowan for Lucretia
Daimon is a carry, but try to put as a tank, and behind Antandra, in the middle Lucretia
ok
I'm at chapter 30 too, and I'm passing with Daimon (behind) Antandra, Arthur (or Prince, depending), Brutus, Ezio
Change Rowan for Arthur
Put Grezhul in front, Daimon behind Arthur
Or Daimon behind Grezhul...
ezizh saurus grez mortas twins 
Do u see saurus mortas twins?
no
Then what was ur point?
i thought u asked what the meta was lol
For the ones i have
ig just mercanary a saurus and put in grez rowan ezizh and whatever u want
Already hve diff mercs for this week. Nvm can merc it
Getting stuck in campaign chapter 10 and towers 130ish.
Anyone around to help me build a good line-up
What to do? Stuck for a week now..
What healer should I be prioritizing? Do I have them or should I be on the lookout for a certain one
you cant really be on the lookout for things you sort of just open whatever you open as a new account
Well yes, but which healer should I build when I get them I mean
Maybe you can get a Desira... or maybe not
Could anyone help? Is it possible for me to beat this at the current state Iām in? Or do I need to upgrade more
Iād upgrade more but I need more heros Essence
Go for rowan
i just can't beat 16-12 even tho i have a level 180 shemira, what can i do?
those are my other heroes
!ascension
Does anyone know how I could improve my team? Or have any other team suggestions that will help complete chapter 30?
Why is nobody helping me..
Use a 5 pull build probably and switch people around and try it a lot @pale kettle
hey all
need help with comp/priorities - currently nothing performs as good as luc+merlin+rowan, but merlin will be gone soon. Currently only at 6-32, getting 1-shot
Have you tried rowan on middle or front?
Check pin and see if you can get any from afkhelper
Or raku behind arthur
I would drop rosa and put Ferael where she is and put Eerion back mid
raku and arthur are connected and I don't have any diamonds xD
Have you tried arks guide^
I'ts not working š¦
afk helper?
Hmm it's a pretty tough stage but I beat it with I wanna say RC 260 and an Eerion merc back mid. Something else u can try is swapping Rowan and Daimon as well
Whats a good formation with these people?
Is this the best Team i cen do?
I did it! XD
help plz
Lyca instead of cecilia and lucius instead of fawkes
Rowan, ferael, daimon and eironn
Thoughts? (The five on top are my deck)
Revert the L Daimon
And what should I use instead of ira? Cuz she's legendary tier
Help I am stuck
Move mirael to middle, I find that twins are usually good in boss fights and thatās really all. Try to replace them
You can also request a dif team if u want!
daimon
rowan
Mirael
lucius
belinda
try this
@gaunt dragon there's about strategy on this game. Overlvl your shem, use rosaline for boosting shem etc
How can I get heros essence faster? I have so much exp but never enough essence
@gaunt dragon u can't speed up by a lot, but, you mostly have to buy with gold from the shop everyday. And with current event that doable your bounties, you can pick the dust ones then refresh and hope for more dust ones
For example, I'm buying everyday dust 3x, refreshing the shop twice with diamonds. It's too early for you now, but when there it will be 500 dust, it's the time for refreshing
@brave oriole ok thanks, this is only my 3rd day so Iām still learning š
Is there anyway I could beat this with my current set up? Iāve been hard stuck on it all day
@gaunt dragon it looks good, just maybe put rosaline instead of atandra and see. She should follow shem
any ideas?
I donāt have herš„²
@gaunt dragon oh, that's gwyn hair 
Yup
Hopefully Iāll get daimon elite + soon
So I can get rid of atandra from my lineup
@gaunt dragon yeah, I would not get that shem mythic, save fodders for daimon 
Yup that was the plan. I watched the Shem eventually falls off and daimon is much better
@west salmon would help you more to charm that ferael with Nemora. Tasi is helpful if banish, but ferael hitting his team would be much better
Ok, I will try that
Anyway, save your heroes elite +, don't push em all to legendary etc, wasting fodders. Focus at one hero each faction until ascended first, then you go on next etc
Like this
And ascend one by one
yeah ik about the legendary thing now, I pushed them before, playing it a bit smarter now
also it worked pretty well, tyvm
Good, the game needs a lot of patience 
also don't mind the M shem, she was used as a linker lol
Yeah well, you can ascend shem, then once you finish chap 24 or 25, with the scroll that you get, you can easy swap shem to daimon, if anything
true
Dunno how good it would be, but shem is useless anyway with all the new heroes etc
my daimon luck aint that good
Same Iāve been waiting 2 weeks for mine
Yeah, sometimes there's a very bad luck 
was thinking of using it on Bel tho, coz I need 1 more copy to get her to A (same with luc)
Well, you need a carry for each faction, for towers
All I need is one more copy then I can get one from the hero chest where you can pick any hero to get and Iāll be set to take him to M
I need 1 more to get him to L+
Bel would work still, ofc, gwyn it's much better, but shem is ttly useless now, there's a lot of good gbs
Lucius also, works great in tower, and campaign, for a while
I'm 400 tower +lb, still using Lucius
yeah, luc has been a core part of my team the whole time, he has amazing heals and decent hp
Should I take gwyneth to M, I would have to sacrifice mirael or I can just wait to get one more L+ fodder
@ember belfry sacrificing mirael it's nothing bad, gwyn will do much better, with rosaline rowan, maybe Brutus tank and something else
But now deppends of your heroes, ppls mostly ascend rowan first lb
I usually put a tankyish hero (like prince/Wu K) infront then luc 2nd
I have yet to get rose or Brutus but theyāve been on my wish list form the start
Is your wishlist full?
Yeah
Good, bcs if there's one empty slot it won't work
also I got a T1 stone of force
what that do? (wrong channel ik but we're here already...)
What's force?
I just keep getting maulers, Iāve heard that they are bad in early game, the only thing I can do with them is take my skreg to M
@ember belfry nah, don't rush. Save em elite +, ascend something else first, a dps, like kren
K
i got stupid luck for things like scamgaze and stuff, more than half my pulls had heroes, then I also got a Khazard from stones yesterday too which is nice, but when it comes to normal pulls, mostly fodder/green ;-; and even when I get heroes, they usually useless
@west salmon weird, my normal pulls are 99% from my wishlist
rng be wildin
Do you have any empty slot?
nope
Else I can't explain why it's not from your wishlist
barely ever I get those
like I can get my Shem and Nimisu to M and M+ while daimon and others are sitting at E/E+
Remake your wishlist, maybe it helps. Remove all and put again. Anyway not all your heroes are great
some are just so that I can upgrade heroes that I use rn
but like, desira, lightbearer child and some others are just there coz idk what else to put there
You need rosaline for lbs, one fawkes copy. Then for maulers, you only need one Brutus. Wilders you need one nemora for charms only, then put Pippa or Saurus. And gbs, Thoran it's too early to be there, Isabela suck. Ferael is okay , but need also grez Silas
got an e+ nem
That's enought I guess, for now
and I thought isa was like really good, no?
She's good and not rlly, but only with maxed si furn
i see, too early for now i think
She's not a gb top hero for sure
who do I change in lb list for fawkes? changed 2nd for rosaline
She's maybe good on pvp and other things, but again, priorities are grez daimon Silas desira
I do have him as E+ though
Well, if you have fawkes already, then it's okay
Only for coffin, don't need ascended for a long time
Well, if you have Brutus already, put tidus or so instead
E+, so I will change him
Yeah, and all good then. You will need skreg too, but slowly you will get him. After you get 8 copies with one, put skreg
Np
Stuck on this one now lol
Stuck on 29-60 any ideas please ?š¤
Switch Lucius and Lyca
Brutus middle, tasi top front, Rowan low front, Lyca down back, and shemira back line top
You could also switch daimon with shemira
Okay im trying it now thank you bro
I dont think thats gonna work :/ my daimon might be too weak as well because i just came back to the game and got him leveled up from elite today
Is this my best Team or Should i level other?
You should get his si to 20. Very good si
Get your free wukong
How
You just need to share something I think. From the game and share it to Facebook
Does anyone know how I could improve my team? Or have any other team suggestions that will help complete chapter 30?
Im stuck and cant think of anything
@rocky moss and any change on my team?
Anything helps
Reset flora and Nemora and level up Lyca and ferael. Use mirael as a carry instead of saveas @lost rapids
Mirael middle and Thoran on estrilda maybe?
Ok i try
Sadly dont have the resources to get his SI up rn. Do you think that comp is my best bet? Cant beat it
I donāt know, because RNG is a big thing in this game. Do you have any Ainz or Lucretia to merc?
Btw, I got to go.(sleep) Good luck with the stage guys. ššš
The Isabella stomps, and the thoran kinda works itās just that everyone is low bc of her
@rocky moss is there any bether tank then Izold?
Okay thanks bro goodnight @rocky moss
Guys, I need to sleep rn. I can talk tomorrow. @sturdy mason thanks, u to (when you are going to sleep)
Brutus
Ok
What lineup to run? ^^
New to the game and i dont exactly know who i should build, currently running rowan, thoran, rosaline, thalene, daimon
Check pins in #classic-questions
what would be optimal tank/supports for mirael here?
should I pick Thoran from lab? Was thinking Nemora from lab to heal instead of Merlin (timed)
Rowan, Cecilia, Raine, Gwyneth, Fawkes are what you want LB 100%. LB other than Rowan who is amazing, suck, but Raine is really good for some bosses, Fawkes has coffin which is useful sometimes, Cecilia is great for some bosses, and Gwyneth is meh .... better than the others maybe.
Lucius and Belinda are terrible overall, and Peggy is used sometimes in pvp but otherwise terrible. Maulers isn't bad, but Tidus > new mauler is better. Change Nemora for Saurus. Change Isabella for Silas, Desira for Izold
hard to tell without seeing your options. You need some cc here. Ideally Ferael, Eironn, Nara
prob not gonna get this level for a bit ... you're really lacking in cc, you need Ferael, Tasi, Eironn, Nara, or need to overlevel it incredibly. PoP is great cc but usually only hits front line, you need back line cc, especially on Ferael. At this point for you, Belinda is complete trash, need to start looking at replacements.
Buy Arthur from lab. But make sure you save enough currency for Merlin too.
Fawkes looks like your only viable option. Place Fawkes against Isabella.
Honestly you lucked out with an incredible squad! Those are all great characters to keep investing in. Rosaline is great as well, Saurus, Gwyneth, Wu Kong will all do well for you. Put Ferael on the crystal, you'll need him for some cc later, and Raine will help you out with Wrizz daily.
Tried this no luck any changes or no hope atm?
Daimon / Rowan / Tasi / Lyca / swap back and forth betwen Talene and Wu Kong depending on whether you need more heals or dmg.
Daimon is the best. You can either afk and then beat it easily in a couple of days, or if you REALLY have to beat it now then you need to reset and pump Daimon up a little higher. Solise sucks, but tbh you don't have another healer. Fawkes and Eironn positioning is good, if they're dying it's because they're too low level.
Yeah ik. I really need to get another daimon to get him elite + then Iāll pump him up a lot. I already have everything ready to get him legendary
thx for the help! so for now i should keep my current line up or should i swap some out?
your current lineup is incredible tbh. Stick with Daimon / Rowan / Tasi / Lyca for the most part for everything for awhile, change between Talene (if you need extra heals or a tank) and Wu Kong (if more dmg is better). I would default Wu Kong and then swap him for Talene if Daimon dies. You'll also want Ferael, Eironn, Silas, Rosaline asap
he's so good. best of luck, I hope you get more Daimon copies asap!
well i dont have lyca rn and i was actually looking to upgrade tasi already haha. Just tested and i think i need talene a lot more than wukong. who should i replace tasi for? daimon, thoran, rowan, thalene, rosaline
Thank you for all the help! Iām getting very very close hopefully Iāll get it soon
best of luck to the both of us getting daimon copies haha
Well actually hereās my current formation. I tried multiple formations and this seems to be working the best. But in the future is it better to frontline talene or rowan
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hard stuck for a few days now, need help :/
Finally beat itš
Help please been stuck
if u have a copy of mehira,
brutus rowan raku mehira daimon/lyca.
if not,
brutus tasi ferael rowan daimon would probably work
Thanks :)

This stage is annoying me Iāll descend heroās if need be
I am stuck at this boss fight and need help
Rosaline instead of ferael and link rosa to daimon
No dont buy another wukong
so save up for merlin?
what if he cant be 40 levels ?
like u have to upgrade anothers to 60?
Example if you make the others lvl 60 daimon should be 100 if daimon is 120 the others should be 80
As long as its possible
also the team u suggesnt almost defeated it
ahh i see
For newbie, still at chapter 11, what should we get from the magical hat event ?
Fodder or red chest
Did rosaline die early?
she was second to last to die
she was the fourth to die
Who is your merlin liked to?
no one
Try merlin instead of lyc
This stage is troubling me I need some help pls
what formation should i use?
Silas
Daimon
Merlin
Wukong
Rosa
Thanks
what should i do?
Hmmm can you do other things like tower or labyrinth ur pretty low leveled
Maybe come back after daimon is 100
oh yee havent done the tower yet
currently running daimon thoran rowan talene rosaline
should i use twins/tasi/morael/ferael/saurus?
Man i've been stuck on this stage for so long https://i.imgur.com/n54nRF4.png https://i.imgur.com/jjk7Guc.png
Is there something I can do to somehow get past it?
I need some help pls Iāve been stuck for 2 days
Help
stuck on 6-8 any help for better lineup then current?
Current twisted realm best line up for me? Grotesque mage
I would level up mezoth hes really good early game and carried me through like 15 chapters, aka the really fat guy if you didnt know who mezoth was
so mezoth and thoran frontline with wukong daimon and arden backline?
I would do that yea
Should I add shimera into my team if so who do I replace
Cause I heard shimera is really good
You heard from outdated sources then
Isnāt she still good for early game? I know daimon is just better but isnāt she still strong early game
I heard Lucius is a good tank
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You should read the pins in #classic-questions
i mean i guess for the first 12 chapters she is, but that is only very early game
There's no reason to force shem when we have other earlygame options and a half dozen carries to transition into that are 10x better than her
Any ideas my front got one shot and Daimon is exploded in 1v5
@untold saffron up Daimon and wukong first
Hi, has anyone found the way to kill an enemy hero in less than 10 secs in the 13h Misty Valley fight ? Thanks
@errant bough YouTube ?
I might not use the right words when I search cause I always find old videos about previous events
Really need some help with this stage
try afk helper
@frozen cloak why you used rowan on the top ? Is better in Middle no ?
The Isabella is troubling to my team so my gwyn will focus her down
Ye isabella is a pain in the as after when she is A
@maiden vapor thanks for the suggestion but none of the comps there worked for me
@errant bough merc ?
Maybe but who should I merc then ?
Guys im asking für the 5th time now, could anyone please help me? I am stuck on this stage for 10 days now and nobody answered my help request...
Daimon i think
Put rowan in for rosaline
@viral dock finally worked with Daimon mixed with a comp from afk helper thanks
Any suggestions
Need help i lose in 10sec what can i do for win
You can try putting daimon in the front row
Iām in chapter 9 and wondering if these heroās I have is some what good
Thanks but it isn't working
Hi people. How do I improve my lineup? I just got back to the game. Is shem bad now? Do i drop her and focus on belinda?
Maybe shemira, silas, daimon, rowan and Brutus
Both belinda and shemira is bad now
Good idea but not working either...
Try looking at the pinned guides #classic-questions to know who are priority heroes
thanks a lot @sleek delta
All good
What Comp would u guys recommed that I use with these heroās
Kinda stuck early game
@pale kettle Brutus shem, Rosa nemora rowan. Try it until nemora it's charming ferael or so. More haste etc if she needs. If she's still slow, try Brutus shem, lyca nemora Rosa
Hi i just started the game and do a few rolls with the code, do i have good cards?
Or do i reroll for better cards?
Ok thank you
Iām a sorta new play on 8-7 and I canāt beat it.. any lineup help?
@amber apex with the 3 Epic Graveborn hogan and the magician you can make a first team
Pick your strongest you can easily clear
My rosaline is a god
33 floors ?
Iāve been using my strongest and I still loose. Is there any combination that would be best?
Usually gwynith (I canāt spell) middle back shemira right back isabella left back wu kong and mirael front
Itās not the best but it gets me the allied faction bonus which helps
@brazen vault mirael is a mid back hero
Yeah but gwyn is better
Not at your lvl
Gwyn is good when she have her sl up
Mirael is better at the start of the game
This instead?
Wukong in front instead of shem
Mk
That should work
Yeah it did
Lvl up mirael first when she is actually your better carry
Thanks
Np and good luck
I rushed chapter 16 in 30 minutes but now I can't beat the final stage. Could anyone help me with this?
Anyone?
Saveas top, rowan middle, eironn front with Brutus
Anyone have any ideas? Stuck on 29-60
Any way for me to defeat this stage? Or do I just need to wait for more levels. https://i.imgur.com/ry5wP9E.png
Not even close
But thank you
Sad face
Hat jetzt aber geklappt mit was anderem
Whatās the best I could build here? Iām ch11
Anyone have any ideas? Stuck on 29-60
@sturdy mason whats ur hero box
try
eirron
daimon
lorsan
rowan
tasi
wait how do u have an acended Rowan in the second picture but a m+ Rowan in the first
the first pic was old i was too lazy to get a new one lmao
a
Any ideas?
Glückwunsch
@shy pagoda Arthur - Albedo - Ainz - Rowan - Ferael probably work
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Ich bin ja nla sowas von lost
Stuck on 32-60
Trying to cheese but I'm unable to link rowan using lorsan as he dies too fast or nothing happens
Can anyone help me form a formation against these with my heroes PLEAASSSSEEE ?
maybe try lucius-shemira-tasi-eironn/daimon-eironn/daimon
Kk
idk what to do lol
Can i have some help beating the lone tasi in the solar plane?
This stage is troubling I need some help with a new formation with these heroās
Not quite sure how I should go about ascending my heroes atm. Itās either I get Desira to L+ (even though I donāt use her) or I work on getting Shemira to A since I have all the copies required for her to get there whatās best for me at the moment?
Light bringer tower
@rocky moss sorry for the ping, but I think this should be the strongest combination
Put lyca instead of shemtrash
And brutus instead of thoran. You could also try putting lyca front and daimon back
@limpid berry
Gave it 15 attempts but wasnāt close @rocky moss
Need Help I am stuck at this stage
stuck in this final boss
should I level up my Shemira or should I try to get everyone else to the same level
also which heroes should I use (I also have these guys and 2 more slots on the resonating crystal)
What heroes should I lvl up
Use rowan
replace with merlin?
Go with daimon
Should I still lvl my shimira?
Drop gwen for rowan and put thoran up front
U only need 1 carry and u can use daimon in end game
Ok
Im chapter 29-16 and shemira is kinda useless there but daimon is still good
Ok thx
Im new and donāt know what is Good and what is not I jo da need help on my lineup
What should my current lineup be?
worked ty
Welcome
Daimon dies first, and tasi dies before she can use her ultimate
Then once those two die everyone gets wiped by mirael
No, havenāt pulled her yet
Brutus instead of theowyn and put him in front of daimon
That should work
Help with my lineuo for mage?
Tried copying legend teams? Like Tasi mortas grezhul Cecilia warek
Grotesque mage is a manual tr boss, get off auto
team ideas for campaign? (guild hunting boss would be dope aswell)
Don't have those 2
Not even elite?
For now i would go lucius thoran Front and oden shemira and rowan back
I started playing again a week ago after a 15month+ break
ill try that. does it matter where in the back oden and rowan are?
Rowan can tank but oden idk
Oden can get some decent dodge I think but you'll probably have to retry a lot.
aight ty
Merc mortas and try tasi mortas grezhul warek vurk... Play it manual and ult 4 times mortas (you can delay somewhat the first ult by few seconds if it gives you more damage at the end), then ult grezhul and like :35-37 if they are still alive and ult with everyone at :08-09
Mythic lvl enough?
Ty. Never gotten over g2 before. Diamond4 now
Canāt touch this stage at all, Isabella just ults and by then only daimon is left, oneshots
you have the right idea, need to kill Isabella before she ults. Try Eironn in that bottom spot, Daimon center back line, and Rowan front line. Hopefully Eironn can stall long enough for Rowan to ult, which should provide enough dmg for Daimon's 2nd ult to kill her.
She didnāt even ult that time lul
nice! grats š
bruh
who is silvinas attacking?
auto goes on the lowest defense target, in that one its rowan, if I take rowan out she goes on Lyca which doesnt make a huge difference since i still get Lyca's haste
@latent olive why do you pull Isa if there's Brutus? Just use tasi instead or rowan
try
daimon
Brutus
eironn
Thoran
nara
and remove gear on brutus
specifically strikes the MAGE with lowest defense, would ignore brutus i think
And vurk it's not bad since you don't have any invade setup, leave him alone
no need eironn pull
if he has no gear he should be the lowest defense
he isn't a mage, i think it just means an int unit
ya, it goes by lowest defense in general if there is no int unit
oh dub ill try
This comp from afkhelper just straight doesnt even get off the ground for me. And I dont see daimons 30 being the difference here considering I dont even get to a point to benefit from it
this worked perfectly, tyty
np
does tasi banish daimon?
idk how to make it work tbh. Is it the artifacts perhaps? Gear seems unlikely since my Daimon is full t3. Fera is t2 faction boots and t2 wrong faction weapon
nah Taai banishes fera
Just use lyca instead of Brutus
Im fairly new to the game just started a few days ago and need help making a compostion I can send s pic of my inventory
current artis for me are barricade on brutus, chalice on rowan and thoran. And call on fera and daimon
read the guide that is pinned in questions, dont make so many legendary units
Maybe this its why. Try eye on ferael, replace Brutus with lyca @timid tulip
The haste it's a big deal
Oh alright I just got a bunch of extra copies of them so I thought it wouldnāt hurt to ascent them
lyca doesnt work either. Ive tried some of the other comps I use usually aswell like lyca fera rowan daimon and brutus. Or some raku daimon comps. Also raku mehira etc. Ill try real quick tho. I think I tried eye on fera before too tho
Is it really bad making a lot of legendary or is it good to save the mythic+ as fodders for once you get a better character
Good to save fodders and ascend one of each faction
I know Im probably gonna use raine as a fodder since she sucks and is legendary+
She's not that bad, just leave her l+ and try to ascend rowan as lb first
Alright
raine is probably the second best lb
Not quite what you suggested but this is the best ive managed so far. it doesnt happen often tho
Aha, move daimon up
to center?
U can do so, and rowan top of him
Whats lb stand for
lightbearer
Could someone please help me make a team for this
Oh how is she the second best I thought there was a lot of better
lb dont have very good units, and raine happens to fit a couple niches which is better than most lbs
Oh what would you say is the best
rowan
Is rosaline decent?
hmm it didnt go much better so far but it feels like it might work. Btw what arti on lyca? shroud or eye?
ya she is pretty good, just build who u get for now
If you have shroud, then shroud
I am stuck on this one
Can anyone tell me why my Arthur - Albedo - Ainz - Rowan - Ezizh comp loses in Arena of Heroes to mirrors in the same positions in attack consistently but ALSO loses in defence to mirrors in the same positions consistently to lower powered opponents. Same artifacts.
But i feel like if daimon it's the highest rating, he could stay Frontline easy, not vs warek @timid tulip
sometimes he can. But in this fight he just insta dies frontline
depends on rng here I think. One moment ill check. Daimon vs arden is usually rng in my experience. Like same fight will be 50/50 whether daimon shields or arden roots first
Not very sure about, but ive heard that ferael with a shit weapon, some l+ would spam faster the ghosts
Never tryed myself 
nah arden here doesnt root daimon ever
yeah Ive heard that too but ive never noticed a difference between no weapon. t1 and t2 weapon. Havent tried L weapon tho
Okay, do you have joker?
or t0 mythic. Nope no joker
Prince?
yea. He isnt invested tho
Well, try him for a sec anyway, instead of rowan let's say
ok
I'm curious if he can stun lock after a few tries
what arti does he like? Call or shroud?
nah even with my best gear he cant stunlock
hey guys sorry
https://i.imgur.com/XDACL7I.png
i started today, do u think this is good positioning? could flora be a replacer?
@timid tulip mhm, you have tried Brutus lyca, Fera daimon rowan?
@cunning spruce not rlly a replacer, is daimon e+? If so keep lvling him
i dont know what e+ is
Elite +
i dont think so
doesnt work
I feel like one of these should stick but they just dont. And pretty consistently so
I'm not rlly sure what's wrong there. Maybe nemora heals and tasi sleep
What can I do better, this level just seems impossible
Been struggling here, rather new with limited resources. Any help much appreciated
This is some variations.
@brave oriole
The ones that fail early vary vildly but the other one that manages to kill Ogi is a bit more consistent but also fails pretty consistently to arden bolts. Or if daimon survives that he gets pummeled by warek
Man, Brutus should be up
This is best result yet
tbh maybe this formation is it. Might just need a lot of retries
Did I mess up really bad by making too many legendaries instead of doing the fodder ones, should I wipe and start over?
@timid tulip yeah well, it's afk arena, rng is always a factor. But Brutus down makes no sense tbh, maybe can be replaced with something else, tasi or something
maybe not. idk. But brutus and lyca swapped just fails worse
and removing brutus also fails worse
Yeah just try something else instead of Brutus down, talene
so far atleast. Tasi also just insta dies her for some reason
@stone coyote not badly, but be patient and keep your heroes elite+, and ascend one of each faction, fallow some guide or so
Do you have eironn @timid tulip?
e+
Should be oka for testing, try him instead of brutus
maybe I just merc one tho and wait until later to do this
his pull just gets interuppted and then he dies
Mh
I dunno what can be done more, in your video daimon could win if had one sec more for ult
So maybe try to replace rowan for a sec, with something else, loosing 100 energy, not huge
Ive tried a couple formations without rowan. Like Lyca Brutus Fera Raku Daimon for example. Never worked her. Ill keep trying a bit tho
Been stuck for a while
good lineup for Wrizz? (guild hunt)
Any ideas
only ever level 5 heroes, rest go in crystal slots
which 5 to focus on is the question then xD
ainz should be linked to your highest level hero, not separately leveled
you can build fodder to level the crystal as laid out in the beginner guide
beginner guide? can u send a link
there are two pinned in #classic-questions
Im stuck here, any ideas ?
For that exact floor I got really close with brutus rowan frontline fera raku Daimon backline. Since your higher level I think it might work for u as well. (Disclaimer: I haven't beat the stage yet but it was really close multiple times)
Maybe you could try mirroring your comp?
Whattf i tried so many times with other stuff and mirrroring was the solution i feel stupid
Thank you so much @pale kettle
Np, the main issue I saw was that your Shemira would be targeted by grez and enemy Shemira in that position and maybe Silvina as well so by mirroring you are able to eliminate/prolong most of this threats
any ideas?
Flora team is absolutely doing me in! Any help you pros?
Someone can help me ? Im testing Thali in her training quest
Can i get some help?
