lineup-help

[shy pagoda]

Any suggestions for this stage?

[rapid flume]

what team should i use and what order should they be in

[stone holly]

what's ur current max hero lvl? @rapid flume

[rapid flume]

? @stone holly

[stone holly]

max hero lvl

[rapid flume]

out of all my heroes?

[stone holly]

yeah i mean. what's ur current team lvl, cuz i see them all lvl1, but that cant be ur lvl so, what lvl are they usually

[rapid flume]

i just put them on rickety cart

so i had them all 100+ some 120+

[stone holly]

oke, so 120, 1st u shouldnt L A tier heroes, bad move

[rapid flume]

A tier heroes?

[stone holly]

go to portraits, any hero above dimensionals is an A tier "ascended tier"

[rapid flume]

oh thats what u meant by A

why not?

[stone holly]

cuz lvl is ascension based, so each ascension has a lvl limit, i think lvl limit of L is 140? not too sure

so now u have L satrana and daimon, what if u never pull the 2 copies u need to L+ them?

whilst u pull 8 copies in a row of another hero

[rapid flume]

then i would probs cry if my luck was that bad

[stone holly]

hey, it happens XD i been stuck forever in M+ waiting on 1 damn copy of a hero

[rapid flume]

also i have this

[stone holly]

save it, best choice is flora, but just keep it for now

[rapid flume]

okay so who should i use and in what order on my team

[errant flint]

How do u have so much monieeew

[split sleet]

what maulers are best for tower?

[jovial shuttle]

I have like 34m

[errant flint]

I’m taking donations pls

[jovial shuttle]

haha

[split sleet]

use shemira instead of arden

[honest knoll]

Can someone help me make team for arena? U currently use
Backline: rosaline, lorsan, silas
Frontline: daimon,hendrik

[solemn lagoon]

21-58

I have no clue how to beat this, hard stuck for +- 4 days

[jaunty glen]

I would try daimon, Rowan, shem, lucius, kelthur

[random sonnet]

the arden just one shots my team
and if i go full defensive with daimon the nemora outheals

[drifting atlas]

you should get +30SI for Rowan, try ferael instead of Merlin

i find merlin pretty useless without 9f tbh

[random sonnet]

working on rowan rn
i have 150 red chests ready
im just waiting for 10 more silver emblems lol

and i think like 50 gold emblem

i was thinking oden would be good since i can win this if arden never ults
but tasi one shots him so

[drifting atlas]

put rowan on the front when you get him +30

[random sonnet]

this won

ok so, whats the reason frontline ferrael works
ive been recommended to do it twice and its worked both times
what should i be putting him frontline against

[drifting atlas]

my best suggestion would be: rowan - arthur - daimon - mehira - ferael

you can try swapping daimon and ferael around

also daimon needs 3f

[solemn lagoon]

Danke

[nimble void]

People somehow beat it with this, not sure if I’m doing something wrong

Please ping me as my discord is being weird

[rocky moss]

Are the replays lower or higher level than you? @nimble void

[nimble void]

Around the same honestly

[rocky moss]

And are you using the exact same artifacts and all that. Armor, Ascension, Furniture?

[nimble void]

These no way to check on afkhelper

[rocky moss]

O, i thought you copied from replays. You should equip the best gear you have on every wilder in that formation. You can also try to swap lorsan with pippa

[nimble void]

Okay, I’ll kee fiddling

Do the artifacts look right though? @rocky moss

[rocky moss]

Yes they look great. Maybe use shroud on eironn

I will be afk for a while so i will not answer any messages. good luck.

@nimble void

[nimble void]

Copy

[slate forge]

Any good pvp lineups with raku?

[vestal iron]

Not sure how to position for the cc

[pale kettle]

Someone told me to use Lucius, wukong, saveas, arden, and tasi but I got some new characters should I swap anything out? Or who should I upgrade

[alpine goblet]

Can someone help me choose a team?

[golden hornet]

At least now, not

Maybe Rowan, Shemira, Solise, Grezhul, Saurus

You need Eironn, Tasi, Lyca,

[keen bluff]

Help please

[nimble void]

Can I get advice here? Is this doable? I have beat gear on everyone

[honest knoll]

Im not good at the game but You could try putting daimon on ardens place and maybe lucius or any tank on daimons place

[nimble void]

Relic recommendations appreciated

[vital kernel]

Sky what do the other wins look like on that stage

[nimble void]

Pretty similar actually

I’m not sure how people are getting their Saurus’ to stay alive

Is Chaos Bringer at 1 star better than the other relic options? @vital kernel

[vital kernel]

Well so two things

Pippa is probably in those replays with at least +20 sig otherwise she doesn't give invulnerability to saurus
And chaos is okay at just 1 star but it's definitely worth 3 stars

[nimble void]

I’m struggling on that ToG to 3 stars working on that

[nimble void]

Would an E+ Lorsan or Nemura help at all?

[vital kernel]

Lorsan probably if you linked thoran and ferael

[nimble void]

I’ll try that

Now I gotta keep trying for the stupid chaos bringer, Ainz team meh and my Saurus team is only 2/5 built

[vital kernel]

I love it on izold too, and alna. It's not necessary to get it asap but will be beneficial long term

[nimble void]

Yeah, I just got to beat the ToG, which can be a pain

[vital kernel]

There's no rush, the problem with the campaign nerfs is now the ToG are unlocked super early and they weren't scaled down to match campaign strength

[nimble void]

Well I can beat all the ToGs at 16 and I have 2 or 3 at 36

[vital kernel]

So you're unlocking it at 260s when they were meant to be unlocked at 280+

[nimble void]

Yeah, I’ve done semi all right this far

Keep throwing myself at Wilde tower or give ToG some more attempts?

[vital kernel]

Have you checked afk helper?

[nimble void]

Yeah, I’m down stars or levels compared to most on there

[vital kernel]

What's the rush to beat 229 anyways there's nothing special at that point

[nimble void]

I want the golds at 230

And I’ve been moving along at a pretty good clip and want more tickets or purple stones

[honest knoll]

What should i use? Belinda oneshots everyone with Ultimate

[fiery thistle]

Put thoran front row instead of hendrik, faction bonus should be enough to clear

Need help on this one pls

[honest knoll]

I just put skreg in front row instead of daimon and daimon was on pippa's place, thanks!

[fiery thistle]

Nice! Np

[fiery thistle]

Btw just for the future, don’t make heroes legendary unless you can make them legendary+

[honest knoll]

Yep ik, i just made it for clearing things faster because i was bored~

[fiery thistle]

Ah ok, still be careful with that cause you might halt your progression : (, same mistake I made on first account

[solemn lagoon]

Send help please, no clue what I am doing

[honest knoll]

I kinda knew how to play afk arena like year ago or smth but i forgot everything tbh

[fiery thistle]

Lmao same, luckily there’s a guide if you go to the questions section and go to the pins, super helpful one too

[honest knoll]

Yeah i saw it, its super useful for new players

[nocturne bane]

Brutus instead of lucius ?

[latent rapids]

Help pls :/

[normal grail]

@latent rapids Hook Isabella with Nara

Also you didn't ask for this, but if you don't want to kill your progress in the long run, stop ascending heroes to L/L+ left and right.

[unreal granite]

How could I kill the frontline first?

[digital flower]

How do I go about beating this? The lucius is protecting everyone and when shemira goes and ults everyone dies.

[outer quiver]

Help, that first team destroys either of my 2 best teams (shown there)

[sterile compass]

Tell me a good comp for campaign/tower from the heroes I have rn lvls not a problem

[normal grail]

Any good ideas? my mauler lineup is fairly limited and I can't seem to keep up with 2xTree's passive healing

Aaaaah fck it ended up 1v1 Warek vs. Chicken and I still lost >.<

Ooooo I got it

[orchid raven]

Yo guys any ideas thanks in advance

[trail raven]

what am i doing wrong here bc i cant even get close to beating this stage

[torn glade]

1st of all make albedo +30 please, then probably using lyca or nara taking off ferael

[pale kettle]

look at the pins in #classic-questions

[mortal mural]

How should I beat this?

[formal mason]

So my main team is brutus, lucius, belinda, rowan, fawkes, but I know that’s not the meta and I’ve had my account for like over a year and just cannot pull eironn, I still have my swap scroll and was considering swapping her and eironn, she has 30 si so should I do it?

[forest zealot]

I wouldn’t

[formal mason]

Any specific reason why? I’m trying to get a better team as my people are falling off a bit in ch 30

[leaden glacier]

So my main team is brutus, lucius, belinda, rowan, fawkes, but I know that’s not the meta and I’ve had my account for like over a year and just cannot pull eironn, I still have my swap scroll and was considering swapping her and eironn, she has 30 si so should I do it?
@formal mason what ch r u on?

[formal mason]

30-1 just beat 29

[regal geode]

Right now I'm using
Hogan Daimon
Nemora tasi Arden
I'm on stage 11-36 and can't beat it even with mythic daimon
Are the 5 heroes I'm using the best I can? Or is there a way to improve my team comp?

[scenic halo]

if anyone can help id appreciate it

[pale kettle]

What's the biggest issue for u?

[forest zealot]

I feel like you need ainz

[pale kettle]

With those levels he most certainly does not NEED Ainz I don't think

[scenic halo]

idk i insta die without getting ults off

[forest zealot]

Ainz strong

[pale kettle]

Who's the main issue for u

[forest zealot]

With Rowan you can get ultra off

I’m so stuck please help me

[pale kettle]

Google Thali Bountiful Trials guide and it should pop up the solutions

[forest zealot]

Thanks I forgot I’m high

[pale kettle]

All g lol

[forest zealot]

This is also the first time I’ve had to use a guide on trials of the arena

[pale kettle]

Nothing wrong with using guide tbh

[crystal reef]

My current lineup and box. Not stuck just wanted to know if I should start trying to make a graveborn team instead of lightbringer

I’m at the beginning of chapter 9 if someone needs my progression

[pale kettle]

Idk about making a GB te but you should definitely be scrolling Graveborn

[crystal reef]

@pale kettle Mmk I’ll keep going lightbringer for now. And I make sure to scrol graveborn. Thanks!

[regal geode]

Can someone tell me which 5 heroes to use
I'm stuck on 11-36

I use Daimon - Hogan
Arden tasi nemora

[pale kettle]

Post the enemy team stage as well pls also check out Afkhelper.nax.is for clears for stages

[pale kettle]

Try switching Daimon and hogan

[regal geode]

I tried putting daimon on every slot with arden front lining when I put him back
I don't know my back line and hogan gets one shot

[maiden vapor]

do u have more res crystal slots?

[regal geode]

I have a lot yeah

The problem is the guy with the axes one shot my back heroes
The hero in front of hogan in the screen shot

[pale kettle]

Try mirroring it, (swapping everyone to opposite side)

[regal geode]

Which heroes should I put on the res crystal?

[maiden vapor]

lyca, brutus, silas, farael, athalia, eironn, and safiya

and if u still have the chest that gives u faction scrolls, nara, lucius or the other rewards, choose nara and put her on the resonating crystal over athalia

[regal geode]

I used that for faction scrolls so I can get my final copy of daimon
I got lucky that the gamble worked out
And I have 6 slots remaining not 7, the 7th I have used on saurus for the guild boss

Which one of the 7 you mentioned I take out?

[maiden vapor]

safiya

[regal geode]

Alright I'll put those 6 and mess around with the heroes and see which lineup wins me the stage
Thank you so much (:

[regal geode]

Ayeee I got it!
Silas made the difference
Thank you a bunch

[grand hazel]

What are a good healers I should put in my lineup

Is

[pale kettle]

Rowan Silas and Nemora are some pretty decent early game healers

[grand hazel]

K thanks

[austere current]

Anyone got any tips? Kinda stuck on this wave

[grand hazel]

Try not to use lightborns and use Wilders instead

[undone sleet]

Any tips? Stuck for 3 days.. 😦

[stiff shard]

3 carries too many carries and only 1 support, try dropping daimon thoran izold, lucius front with lyca, arden and tasi back

[undone sleet]

Like this? Won’t I lack damage then?

[stiff shard]

i said drop thoran, not mirael

[undone sleet]

Right, lol.. problem is enemy saveas 2-3 shots my heroes.

[stiff shard]

mirael is always middle back, swap with lyca

put nara opposite saveas then, and see if dropping tasi/arden is more successful

[undone sleet]

Good tips; sadly im still getting kicked HARD.. damn this stage is crazy. I might just need more levels, but I need fodder for that (except for Mirael)

[stiff shard]

it’s not working?

arden/tasi

lyca
mirael
lucius
nara

gonna have to get used to retrying a bunch of times to clear stages

[undone sleet]

Not at all 🥺

[stiff shard]

yeah seems like gonna need a stronger mirael then

if lucius can’t ult before he dies, he’s as good as useless as a character, so drop him for someone else like thoran or brutus

[undone sleet]

Yeah… of all my heroes, who should I focus on making L+? To not waste fodder

[stiff shard]

no fodder left to get the other fodder L+

close to L+ saveas though

[undone sleet]

Yeah. But I meant, do I wanna take every hero to L+ that I can? Or are some simply not worth it?

[stiff shard]

5 fodder only first

[undone sleet]

Right, yeah. Question: how do I get more fodder, when I can’t progress chapters? I don’t get the gem campaign rewards then. Other than small daily activities/events and so.

[stiff shard]

you afk now and wait

[undone sleet]

Haha, maybe I need another game on the hand that I can invest more time into then with this on the side 😅

[undone sleet]

But thanks for the help Hope!

[stiff shard]

[solemn lagoon]

Hard stuck, what am I doing wrong

[maiden vapor]

Try

actually, u should focus on getting +20 si on daimon

[tall wagon]

Took me like 100 tries, but finally found winning formation for fl 365 on kings tower

[jade shore]

Can someone help me finish this chap, I already used my merc chance on a stage I was stuck on for 12 days

[old hare]

im getting stuck around 13-14

what team should i use?

[pale kettle]

Try Rowan, Brutus, Daimon Rosa, Lyca @old hare. that team pushed me through quite a few stages. rowan on the frontline, rosa following daimon.

[pale kettle]

Any ideas how I could beat this stage?

Do you think it's possible with my heroes?

How?

I'll try it, thank you

Nah, isn't working. Daimon is dying too fast. I really don't understand why so many people are chapter 20 or even higher with the same power that I also have but I'm only chapter 15

That's so weird

[delicate warren]

Im Stuck on Stage 10-16. Is there any possible good comp i could stick with?

[worthy steeple]

Stop making legendary heroes and look at the guides pinned in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

Hi idk if this is the right place to ask but what would u recommend using in this case?

[severe cloud]

Suggestions?

[jolly plume]

just tell me the 5 i should use its very confusing

[scenic halo]

i cant ult ever bc ezizh

[barren badge]

This is not working at all, I'd like to replace estrilda since I don't have her 3furn but don't know who to use.
Does this not work without skriath+30?

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

I need help with this, stuck for 9 days

[kind nest]

Go into #classic-questions and read the pinned messages there.
Don’t take heroes to L without the copies for L+. You have made yourself stuck, because you cannot ascend.

[mild maple]

I had to do it for some hero cause i can't reach higher stage with only E+

[kind nest]

No. You could just ascend fodder heroes. Read the pinned messages. It’ll help you more about understanding the game.

[mild maple]

I understand it and i get zero chance to get further than stage 14 with only fodder heroes

[kind nest]

But keep building L heroes is not the way either. You should have way more copies of heroes by this point, do you keep changing your wish list all the time?

[mild maple]

I didn't change the wish list but at this point i just see it a a bonus game that doesn't mean anyhting cause i got so much hero but everbody stops coming when they reach E+

[kind nest]

Yeah, but you will always get fodder heroes to L+ because you will keep getting copies of them. And the. You wait for copies of ascended tier heroes to take them beyond L+. You just ascended a bunch, that isn’t gonna be much use.
Remember. 1 A hero > 20 L heroes

[kind nest]

Also, did you change discord account?

[mild maple]

What discord account?

[kind nest]

I replied to another discord accounts picture, and you answered

[mild maple]

I only upgraded 6 heroes 2 of them Mythic for the dimensonal heroes

[kind nest]

Why are you answering to a reply to another person?

[mild maple]

Just tried to defend players cause only the pin and L+ fodder not too much power with a new player hand

[kind nest]

The fodder heroes are stronger than ascended tier heroes, at early game.

So yea. It’s bad to just keep pilling L heroes on there

[mild maple]

I agree with that in some point but i couldn't reach higher stage with only the fodder heroes and right now i can't make L+ ascend heroes but my L+ heroes get wiped out in second in 16-12

[kind nest]

But you didn’t ascend fodder heroes first.

[kind nest]

You can make Lyca M. Saveas L+

[mild maple]

Yea i did i used 2 fodder hero for my Shemira and Daimon i got 2 Light and forgot what the last

[mild maple]

Right now i wait and try to get some tank cause i can have a M Lycia and L+ Saveas but Isabelle Vurk and Saveas in the enemy team wipe out the front in 2 second

[kind nest]

The point of early game is not so much what heroes you use per se, but that you get 5ascended ASAP, so you can keep leveling.

[mild maple]

I tried Mythic hero lvl180 front he just got wiped out just like the fodders

[kind nest]

Daimon is not a tank, he is a carry, and usually placed backline.
Get his +20, and you’ll see him carry you.

[pale kettle]

Okay... I thought it would help me with the different towers

But thank you

[kind nest]

Remember, towers rewards will always be there, getting more campaign rewards faster = faster progress = faster tower climb
The pinned messages should help you understand more :3

[pale kettle]

Do you think the ascending of too many heroes was a so big mistake that I should threw away this account

[pale kettle]

@kind nest sorry for the ping, can you tell me your opinion?

[kind nest]

Nah, you just learn from mistakes. Just remember, 1 A hero > 20 L heroes

[pale kettle]

Okay, thank you 👌

[tender drum]

How can i beat this?

Brutus and shotgun keeps killing me

[kind nest]

Stop building Shemira. Do Grezhul or Izold. Also could try Nara Morvus. Not sure tho.

[tender drum]

Ah im not building shemira

[kind nest]

You took her to L+

[tender drum]

yeah it was a mistake early game

[kind nest]

Generally try only focus one hero in each faction at a time

[tender drum]

Should i just feed the shemira to ferael when i get another copy?

[kind nest]

Can’t ascend much sadly. Try see if Nara can cc morvus long enough instead of Lyca

Never fodder ascended tier heroes.

[tender drum]

Okay

[scenic halo]

silenced forever so cant get ults off

[kind nest]

Try Rowan middle back, Eironn front bottom

[scenic halo]

sadly everyone dies before ulting

beat it by taking out rowan and eironn and putting in raku and brutus

[honest storm]

Anyone?

[trail prawn]

who do i use and focus on

[sudden aspen]

Hi guys any help for this stage? I feel like i should be in a Higher chapter at this power

[pale kettle]

I would go rowan thoran nara lyca daimon

[pale kettle]

First of all level up only the 5 heroes you’re using in your team, i see that you have leveled up 6.

[pale kettle]

Hello, i did it with thoran rowan daimon eironn and farael

[ripe knot]

Help

[trail prawn]

i have merlin bonded to belinda and ainz to estrilda

[honest storm]

Thanks

[pale kettle]

I’m still pretty sure you need to reset one hero and place him in crystal, get that hero essence back 😅

[trail prawn]

ok

[sinful sundial]

Hi im from germany can someone tell me which team i should play for Story mode?

Campaign

What to do?

[pale kettle]

I would go wukong thoran front and rowan eironn saurus back (for now)

[keen delta]

What is better for Heroes of Esperia defense, 5 pull or burst?

[worldly apex]

any helpers

[uneven kite]

What units should I use to keep progressing? Been stuck here a while

I have room in resonating crystal to add units

[dull bay]

Any tips for this stage?
The stage mostly works but the enemy sustain is to good. Nara pulls rowan not raku btw.
Also any other comps that can work on this? Like izold or thoran cheese?

[covert kite]

Hi, which heroes should I focus on when they'll hit 160 ? (Yes Lucius is a mistake, don't mind it)
https://i.imgur.com/jxMxwEM.jpeg

[dull bay]

Definitely Daimon. Daimon is best.

[covert kite]

Yeah obviously but I don't have enough Daimon for now 😦

[worldly apex]

saurus is good to build if you havent got someone to merc him from

[pale kettle]

E

[finite hare]

Can you read correctly ?
If you can, can you help me ? I’m Diamond 1, and I need to know if some of you think that I could go higher with my heroes, and if you think so, what changes should I make in my teams?

[regal geode]

Hey guys
I feel like with a mythic daimon at chapter 11 I shouldn't even be here asking for help
But here I am
I'm stuck and I have no idea which heroes I should be using
I keep changing around stuff and nothing seems to work
I don't know who to use

[maiden marsh]

Ditch izold, don't frontline daimon if he melts, add a support like arden.

[regal geode]

So front line which two heroes? If I'm backlining daimon

[maiden marsh]

Anyone who doesn't melt, could be hogan, brutus, tasi, etc

[regal geode]

Oh I haven't tried brutus
I'll try to put him on the crystal

[dark flume]

Suggestions on passing this level?

[outer comet]

Please borrow a walker

[raven mica]

Should I be building someone else or is my current team good to go...pls keep in mind I've only played for about 3 days!

[topaz mesa]

If no one's mentioned it yet, don't raise people to Legendary too soon. You want to save the fodder for really important people. One of the guides I read says don't go to L until you can get to L+.

Diamon is really good.

[pale kettle]

yeah only try to raise those that are actually and save your fodder and don’t fall into the trap of raising a hero to legendary and not having another copy for L+

[scenic halo]

i really need a friend with ainz so i can hire him 6 times

[shut spruce]

I’m stuck whats a better team i can make?

[scenic halo]

probably thoran lucius frontline with farael, gwyn, and arden backline, idk tbh, wish you had a healer or a shemira

maybe arden farael wukong

[maiden marsh]

You should be focusing mirael carry, is the abbreviated version. Supports and tanks are laid out in the guides pinned in #classic-questions

[drowsy sky]

Cant get through this stage

[summer cedar]

try daimon thoran nara rowan lyca/arden

[summer cedar]

brutus grez lyca shem rosa, rosa folo shem

[drowsy sky]

Halp

[summer cedar]

daimon brutus oden rowan nara.

[drowsy sky]

Can you me get through this stage?

[summer cedar]

try rowan 3 arden 5. else just level up mira

[summer cedar]

try brutus daimon arden rowan lyca/tasi

[summer cedar]

my clear is on the linked site

[drowsy sky]

Which one?

[worldly apex]

i beat it earlier, but im stuck on 60 now, been trying different things

[summer cedar]

most recent pin

[summer cedar]

I don't know why you think I know what the enemies are, but I don't. that'll be helpful.

[worldly apex]

i wasnt directly asking for your help, more just a statement, sorry for the confusion

[summer cedar]

alr then. gl

[worldly apex]

gotten close a lot, probs win with some good rng
will probably post here when im stuck for like 2 days :P

[latent olive]

Isabella usually just oneshots daimon. This is the best I can come up with, the haste at the start, two backline units stun isabella and shemira to buy time, pray daimon gets enough ults off. Everything dies about instantly

[visual spire]

replace nara with ferael because ferael has fear and energy drain. try it and see if it works

[warm ibex]

Should I change anything around, such as putting Shemira or Nara in

[pale kettle]

My heroes are just dying too fast, any ideas how I could beat this stage?

[pale kettle]

Maybe try rowan shemira front daimon eironn lyca back but I’m not sure it will work

I'll try, thanks

Nah, same problem. Everyone dies too fast

[pale kettle]

Any other ideas?

[violet igloo]

Seems like you made waaay to many heroes to legendary. I would recommend read the short guides pinned in #classic-questions.

For example of you didn't put Cecilia to Legendary, you could have put instead Lucius to L+ which would have been more useful :) it's not optimized but not a big mistake, it'll straighten out in time. Have you tried Lucius or Tasi instead of Eiron? I'd try to get the 3 faction bonus see if that helps Shemira survive longer for her to ult

[leaden glacier]

My heroes are just dying too fast, any ideas how I could beat this stage?
@pale kettle i would recommend you to garrison ainz and fuse it with shemira

[pale kettle]

Thank you for your help but it isn't working either xD

[high marlin]

Replace Rosaline with Brutus and swap places with shemira

[pale kettle]

Nice idea but not working..

[high marlin]

Do you have call on Eironn btw?

[royal stag]

Try lucius and Brutus Front and shemira, rowan and lyca/eiroon back

[dull trellis]

Any help?

I am working in lucius A, could help switching him for fawkes?

[sleek delta]

Hendrick would be better imo

[dull trellis]

Don't have him

[pale kettle]

Try swapping athalia for Rowan then put him frontline 1 thoran 2, and for every formation you do test, try flipping them

[pale kettle]

do i need different relics or something? same comp from afkhelper but i've been retrying this for like 2 hours

[pale kettle]

Yes

[pale kettle]

Good idea. But my heroes are dying so fast, they don't even deal much damage

[storm atlas]

What would a good pve lineup be

[pale kettle]

Lucius-wu kong-eironn-rowan-anyone you want (support hero would be good, a lightbearer for the boost too)

[storm atlas]

Lucius instead of Hendrick?

[pale kettle]

Hendrick isn't that good, Lucius is the best tank in early and middle game

[royal stag]

Lucius and wu kong Front and shemira, eironn and rowan back

[storm atlas]

Awww I was hoping to use peggy

[royal stag]

Shes not good

[pale kettle]

I would not use that much carry heroes, shemira eironn and wu Kong are just to much. Peggy would be better instead of eironn or shemira. Wu Kong is helpful until level 100 or 120

[pale kettle]

She's ok.

[storm atlas]

She helps the tank from what I've heard 🤷

That's about all though

[pale kettle]

Yes the guardians of her can tank damage but I wouldn't use her as a tank

Peggy is good in early game but later she's trash

[storm atlas]

Ah

When do you think it would be best to stop using Peggy then?

[pale kettle]

There's no point when she gets bad but I wouldnt use her after chapter 15

[storm atlas]

I'm only in chapter 5 so...

[pale kettle]

Yes you can use her but I wouldn't ascend her higher than l+

[storm atlas]

Uh.. what?

I don't know what you mean, I'm very very new

[pale kettle]

Look at ascensions

Just ascend Peggy to legendary plus

[storm atlas]

Ah..

Thank you for posting this, its very useful for me!

[pale kettle]

[pale kettle]

You can look at the pinned messages in #classic-questions

[storm atlas]

@pale kettle I just pulled Oden and Tasi do I put them in for anyone?

[pale kettle]

You can put them in the crystal and use them for fraction bonus if you are stuck. I would ascend oden for boss fights.

[storm atlas]

@pale kettle do you know where I can find a good current tier list?

[pale kettle]

Just search on yt. Between different tier lists there will not be big differences cause its clear which heroes are the best. Will not be hard to find it.

[storm atlas]

Alright thank you

[slate forge]

Should I run saurus energy cycle with lucretia 5 pull for defence or Lucretia energy comp with reg eironn 5pull. Or is there a better defensive 5pull without zolrath I have gwyn and lorsan

[loud zealot]

Any tips on who to use in this lineup i think im building characters wrong

[pale kettle]

You should only ascend heroes to legendary of you have the copies to ascend them to legendary plus otherwise you make yourself stuck

[loud zealot]

Oh i see, thanks for the tip. imma just go and make a new one.

[raw kindle]

What should my lineup be? I’ve just be slapping things together

[loud zealot]

@pale kettle can u give me the latest wishlist for the current patch. Thanks bro sorry for the ping

[pale kettle]

That's my wishlist.

[loud zealot]

Thank you bro.

[pale kettle]

Nullo problemo

[tardy heart]

Why do you have Shemira in your wishlist?

Wouldn't something like a Grezhul or a Ferael be better

[brave oriole]

If there's daimon don't need shem, also thoran, he's very late game and need +30 etc, I better work on grez yeah. Brutus nemora, u only need one copy or so

[gilded needle]

Help meh ples

Pls…

[zealous acorn]

is this floor possible with thoran cheese?

rowan keeps surviving

[gilded needle]

Probably

[high marlin]

You have 4 dps and 1 tank. Get 2 dps, 2 supports, and you can keep the tank

[icy oak]

Ive been really stuck here and idk what to do at this point oof

[worthy oracle]

Suggestions please

[glacial hill]

Currently stuck in chap11 waiting for hero essence to level up daimon.

Any suggestions on who I should get on the wishlist or prioritize for now ?

Currently using daimon Oden Rosaline thoran lyca as main

[frosty spindle]

Get silas and ferael @glacial hill

Getting shredded by this, help

[torpid lance]

Help please

[frosty spindle]

Got silas copies? @torpid lance

[torpid lance]

Just 1

So only E

[frosty spindle]

Try

Ferael
Rowan
Silas
Daimon
Lyca

If silas can ult on daimon u should be fine with rng

[torpid lance]

I'll try that

[frosty spindle]

Or take ferael out and nara the nemora, doesn't need to kill just keep her from gaining energy

[torpid lance]

But keep Silas with Nara?

Well Silas can't even get close to surviving until his ult lol even with call and myth armour

[glacial hill]

Thanks. I have them in my wishlist but not able to get any copies yet

[sleek delta]

Try
Daimon

Rowan
Ferael
Skreg
Brutus

[torpid lance]

Worked after about 20 tries. Thank you!

[sleek delta]

Grats 💪

[latent olive]

The CC in this is way way way too insane, the two frontline just chain cc daimon when he’s the last alive and can never get more than two ults off

[keen flame]

who counters safiya

[sleek delta]

Show the stage and your box

[keen flame]

k one sec

[gilded needle]

Any help?

[sleek delta]

Thoran and silas out, put rowan in place of thoran and add lyca. Hook that ferael with nara

[silent shore]

Who is tasi banishing

[latent olive]

Running this now, still not even close, can’t take out a single enemy and the other 4 die before daimon ults once

[sleek delta]

Antandra

Brutus
Tasi
Rowan
Daimon

[keen flame]

ok i'll try

[keen flame]

tasi gets f'ed too quickly to banish

[icy oak]

Could someone fr give me suggestions? My main team (lucius, joker, talene, merlin, rosa) died way too quickly compared to everything else. Ive tried a lot of combos and ive gotten absolutely nothing

[latent olive]

Help w/ this one, nothing seems to work

[keen flame]

the khasos is new problem

[latent olive]

For reference ^

@sleek delta if you have thoughts/changes

[sleek delta]

I got no idea, try checking afk helper for reference @keen flame @latent olive

[keen flame]

ok

[latent olive]

Already did lol, most of afk helper has talene and the one similar to mine uses Alna instead of Lyca so I can’t mimic it

[pulsar nacelle]

good pve lineup?

[silent shore]

Just tank w Brutus rn cuz her cc is necessary

[keen flame]

Oki

[gilded needle]

Any help

[plucky laurel]

Anyone?

[late cradle]

Lineup don't really matter this early into the game but Grez / Brutus frontline and Shemira, wu-kong and nemora backline should do the trick for almost every fights.
Leveling your carry is also the most important thing. If you use the formation above you should put a lot levels in your Shemira

Once a carry is 'over-leveled' for the current chapter you can consider placing him in frontlines 'cause he will be more tanky than your others lower level heroes

[pulsar nacelle]

what do i do with my flora then

[gilded needle]

Any help

[pulsar nacelle]

also brutus > thoran or the other way around?

[late cradle]

Depending on the fight you will need to adjust your lineup, flora can be good if Nemora gets one shot and you need a support for this fight (for exemple)

[late cradle]

In Early Brutus, Thoran is not really good without stuff

[gilded needle]

I used to use wu kong tho ran carry😭😭

[late cradle]

That doesnt mean is bad, that mean brutus as more impact early. Thoran is used in a really strong formation late game called thoran cheese 🙂

[wooden lynx]

put Rowan front line, swap in Eironn for Thane and match him up against Ferael. prob have Ros follow Eironn as well

[pulsar nacelle]

ok thanks ❤️

[torpid lance]

Help please....

[outer quiver]

I can best the first team but i have troubles with the second 33-56

[brazen vault]

Best Lineup ++ who do i need to level?

[flat acorn]

Any arena gurus that can help me figure out what comp to run against a few people?

[brazen vault]

Current lineup

[flat acorn]

@brazen vault read your DM

[graceful schooner]

Swap Sarus for Wukong?

[jagged pivot]

@fleet thistle

[fleet thistle]

try switching wukong and thoran

and use seaves instead of flora

[jagged pivot]

Ok

Like the thing is I put wukong down there is to let him ult before he dies so that he can tank everything

[jagged pivot]

Ok mb that was the wrong pic

[pale kettle]

Try Lucius-Daimon-totem guy-gwyneth-rowan

[latent olive]

Help for a TR lineup, I haven’t touched anything outside of campaign and arena stuff

[rocky moss]

Set your twins on rc and use her in tr

[gilded needle]

Any help?

[latent olive]

I blew through the stage earlier with some trouble, I was using daimon carry but Nara in either the middle or bottom might help you out

[gilded needle]

Ok thx

[pale kettle]

is this a good setup or is there anything i should change

[torpid lance]

Help please, can't figure this one out.

[worldly apex]

try to cc the hypogean mage with nara or something

also
i need help here :P

[torpid lance]

I'll try

[mortal mural]

Been struggling with this. Main reason is ezizah, but eiron is also an issue. Advice?

[foggy grove]

Need help with this one. thoran isn’t working, can’t seem to kill zolrath

[autumn vault]

I am a beginner help

I need a team

[late cradle]

This is good but Safiya doesnt have much utility in your team, maybe you can try swapping her with oden 🙂

[hybrid nacelle]

Any idea what might work best here?

[ember rune]

Hm I would say green elf guy (Idr his name) on slot 1 Arthur slot 2 skeleton slot 3 Rosa slot 4 and shemira slot 5

[trail raven]

im having a rlly hard time with this stage

[fierce viper]

Could be worth it to try Ainz Albedo gorvo Lyca Raku, albedo and gorvo in the front

[quaint crow]

any team suggestions?

[trail raven]

what should i do here

[oak spruce]

Any suggestions? Tbh I'm kinda new to the ainz comp and don't really know what I'm doing. Ch. 25 was easy for the most part up til now though.

[proper orchid]

brutus lyca albedo nara ainz in that order

[proper orchid]

unlock albedo's sig item asap

[trail raven]

didnt work

[gilded needle]

Any help?

[proper orchid]

swap front line? if that doesnt work return the front line and swap ainz and albedo

also keep in mind the RNG impact

[trail raven]

yeah i an

[proper orchid]

sub shemira for ainz, get his signature item to +10 asap

[trail raven]

so ive gotten close but still havent won, any other recommendations?

[pale kettle]

HELPP

Any lineup suggestions

[proper orchid]

let me see all your heroes

[trail raven]

nvm i beat it

it was thanks to you tho so thanks

[proper orchid]

lyca rowan silas nara daimon in that order

[proper orchid]

swap raine for silvina

[pale kettle]

?

[proper orchid]

yes

[pale kettle]

I lost instantly

[trail raven]

what should i do here oomfie

[proper orchid]

try swappinjg frontline, keep in mind you have to try several times before you can say it wont work

[trail raven]

nvm

[proper orchid]

next time you need help post your hero roster

[trail raven]

okay

damn got stuck again

[gilded needle]

I NEED this

Pls help me

[proper orchid]

reset shemira to level 1 for extra resources, sub rosaline for lyca, and garrison ainz. if you need a friend for that let me know

[gilded needle]

Oh I just finished that super sorry

[pale kettle]

Which order?

[proper orchid]

try same order as in sc first

[pale kettle]

Doesn’t work @proper orchid

[trail raven]

?

[pale kettle]

stuck

[trail raven]

use nara on issabella or mireal, swap her for arden

[kind nest]

+20 your daimon when you can. Also overlevel you daimon

[pale kettle]

nvm beat it

[gilded needle]

Pls help me

[proper orchid]

sub satrana for brutus

[trail raven]

beat it thanks bro

[gilded needle]

Any help??

[sour flax]

I would do Lucius Rowan front and then Eironn Saurus Nemora back but I'm also newbie

[trail raven]

?

[sour flax]

or can go for Wukong/Saf front since LB are weak to GB

[proper orchid]

brutus to tank saveas

i see you love satrana but her strength is really not in ainz comp

you should ascend rowan whenever possible too

try brutus rowan nara albedo ainz

if not swap rowan for lyca

[gilded needle]

@proper orchid can you help me Isabella shreds

[proper orchid]

lyca rowan safiya eironn nara

you should garrison ainz when you can

[gilded needle]

Ok I’ll try

I what positions Isabella still shredded😭

[proper orchid]

in the order i typed them

[gilded needle]

Ok

[trail raven]

?

[proper orchid]

swap frontline, then try subbing brutus for rowan

[gilded needle]

Oof

[proper orchid]

yeah you should really garrison ainz

[gilded needle]

Ye I’ll try

[proper orchid]

fuse him with shemira for now, reset he rto level 1 and put her in the crystal

[proper orchid]

swap frontline

rowan will do better against thoran

[gilded needle]

6 more stones…

[stoic shell]

That’s my team I’m using and my box. What should my lineup be?

[trail raven]

you are hella overleveled

[stoic shell]

I don’t play much lol I just collect my rewards

[proper orchid]

lyca brutus albedo rowan ainz. thats all i got

[stoic shell]

Can you help me with my team?

[proper orchid]

youre 35 levels over them. go read the guides in pinned please, you gotta work on your investment

[fiery thistle]

Need help on this 😭

This exact comp is so frustrating and I keep running into it 😭😭😭

[trail raven]

first

swap brutus and daimon, then if that doesnt work you can try bringing fareal instead of silas

[fiery thistle]

Tried both already, dang this stage it tough 😮‍💨

Geez, the grezhul makes it so that Isabella takes no damage if I try to place nara on her, and otherwise she just ults and shreds ahhhh

[fiery thistle]

Where are all your other heroes? @pale kettle

I’m stuck on the exact same formation but at a lower power level lmaoo

[half atlas]

😦😦

[tight juniper]

Rowan, Lyca, Ferael, Daimon and Eironn is what I used, if you need the artifacts: call, eye, eye, call, and eye

[half atlas]

gotcha thank u

[outer quiver]

What team should i make to defeat that team (used ainz on the first one)

[topaz mesa]

I feel like I'm using a bad lineup. I'm almost through chapter 16 but I feel like my hero levels are higher than some I've seen in here, so I'm wondering how I can improve.

I just ascended Brutus and raised Thoran to M.

[outer stag]

Any ideas ?

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions for lineup?

A good general team lineup suggestions?

[hollow brook]

@kind nest well I’ve been stuck for a while could you give me some help with this

[kind nest]

Use Golus instead of daimon.

[hollow brook]

I swear golus is poopybum but ok

[meager aspen]

How to deal with this mirael

[worldly apex]

making no progress in this fight, going insane man

[fiery thistle]

Put duras call on daimon if you haven’t already, daimon solo carried my team on that stage

[topaz mesa]

Thanks! I'm somewhat clueless about where to put the artifacts so I appreciate it!

[fiery thistle]

No worries : ), I’m still kinda new with it myself haha, btw if that doesnt work just pm me

[normal grail]

Pro tip when you use this channel: show your hero box with it so we know what's available to you.

For starters, you can try putting Wukong and Daimon in front, Nara opposite Ankhira and see how that plays out.

[mortal mural]

How should I beat this?

[lament iron]

any tips? i’m stuck here

[zealous iron]

Anything I can really do with all these lightbearers? I could ascend Mirael to L+ but that’d probably be a waste, been waiting on Rowan but cant get any pulls of him

For reference my main heroes are 120-140 and L-L+

[lament iron]

if i were u id prolly wait for another rowan.

[latent hemlock]

I try prince carry

[normal grail]

Ascending Mirael to L+ a waste? No, she's supposed to be your main carry at this point and eventually when you phase her out you can feed her to your Rowan.

[shrewd belfry]

What would be the optimal team composition in your opinions?

[regal geode]

I would try this
Izold Rosa hogan tasi raine
@Daddy Chadster

[zealous iron]

kk I'll boost her up

[regal geode]

Which 5 heroes should I use?
I'm pretty sure daimon and nemora are staple because they're mythic
But what else? I feel like with two mythics chapter 13 should be done in a breeze but I don't know who to use

[twin shoal]

Any suggestions? I'm kinda stuck and I think it's cause I don't have the right team

[shrewd belfry]

Alright alright thank you!!

[regal geode]

Does anyone know?

[lament iron]

try using nara instead of silas and put her across from mirael cuz she can wipe u w her super.

[soft ridge]

any suggestions?

[lament iron]

what stage r u on

[soft ridge]

any suggestions for stage 8-35

[lament iron]

try using izold instead of grezhul

[soft ridge]

me?

[obtuse orchid]

I want to start stargazing another hypogean for the kings tower team. I already have a good lucretia, and a good ezizh. who should I work on next?

[rancid cloud]

Any recommendations? That Tasi and Fawkes :”)

[frozen cloak]

Hello everyone I’m at chapter 7 so does anyone have any recommendations?

[tall umbra]

Hello! Any suggestions please? Am at Chapter 5, am unsure if I should switch around levels to other heroes.

[pale kettle]

Maybe try rowan prince or izold front, daimon, nara farael back

[pale kettle]

Focus on that eironn and daimon and stop ascending heroes to legendary if you can instantly ascend them to l+ because you’ll get stuck.

[pale kettle]

Level up only the 5 heroes you’re using in your team, reset the others.

[tall umbra]

@pale kettle so if I decide I don't want to use that same 5, I can just reset and relevel without much backlash hey

outside of 20 diamonds/reset

[pale kettle]

You also have crystal which is exactly for that

[tall umbra]

oh right yeha

[frozen cloak]

@pale kettle what should be my front and back line

[scarlet depot]

I need help with this lvl i appreaciate it 🙂

[pale kettle]

Try lucius rowan front and daimon eironn eluard back for now

[frozen cloak]

Ok thanks

[lucid rain]

Newbie here, just playing after several hours, this line is good?

[pale kettle]

It works for now ig, you don’t really have many options now

[lucid rain]

Ok all i must do is get material to fuse from Noble Tavern

[pale kettle]

Try thoran brutus daimon lyca talene or thoran brutus daimon eironn lyca/rowan

[frozen cloak]

My only question @pale kettle is why would Rowan be in the front?

[pale kettle]

Rowan makes a good tank in a lot of situations

[frozen cloak]

Ok

[vivid scaffold]

I'm having a hard time cheesing this fight. I have 5pull, Lyca Lorsan and Rowan free.

The current comp does not allow Thoran to ult a 2nd time.

Lots of good heroes are available, so there is room for different lineups. Linking Izold would help imo, but if I remove Lyca, the 5pull does not work anymore (Nara...).

[pale kettle]

I will send you something in dms, I’m not sure I’m allowed to send here

[vivid scaffold]

I've checked AFKHelper already @pale kettle
They all use different cheese comps than mine 🙂

[digital skiff]

Daimon
Rowan
Fera
Brutus
Prince
Use a hutao for ez wins

[vivid scaffold]

I mean, the roaster I have is actually better, as I can use Rowan and Lyca. They basically all made their way through with Pippa that I don(t have

I guess I can just RNG that with 5pull... No reason it does not work.

[digital skiff]

That's a bit hard stage to cheese, one semi immune and lots of healers..
Is cheesing the first one not an option? Or the third?

[vivid scaffold]

I could cheese the first fight too. But I'll RNG this a bit 🙂
I let you know. Thanks

[gilded needle]

Any help

Isabella shreds

[outer comet]

Help me , chap 32 😫

[gilded needle]

Isabella is basically:TEN KILLS ON THE BOARD JUST WIPED OUT TOMATO TOWN

Can you help me?

[winter hemlock]

https://files.catbox.moe/jrb6m7.jpg

Using Ainzbedo, 5 Pull and Graveborn build with Ezio atm. What good 4th team could I get from this pool?

[gilded needle]

Can you help me?

[pale kettle]

Maybe wukong rowan front saurus skriath eironn back

[frozen cloak]

Who would be good to level up I’m currently level 8-28 and stuck on that level

[pale kettle]

I need a good lineup for chapter 13 can anyone help ?

Lucius is mythic+ shemira is legendary + and rest is legendary to elite

[bleak bridge]

I highly recommend you first read the pinned guides in #classic-questions. They will be very usefull in your situation

[pale kettle]

Ty

[split tree]

Thank you, I haven't had my coffee yet.

[topaz mesa]

🙂

[wet nexus]

Just starting out, any recs?

[compact plaza]

With the current line up of hero’s I have.. who should I be leveling up more and focusing on? Who’ll help me mid/end game? Currently on chapter 22-14 and stuck.

[gilded needle]

Any help anyone If I beat this I get stargazing

[torpid lance]

Help please

[gilded needle]

Can you pls help me

[pale kettle]

I'm stuck at the same levels xD

[tall umbra]

what am I doing wrong here?

[wooden lynx]

have you tried Odin and Nara? Eironn is definitely in the right spot, but I'd think Isabella is prob wrecking you, and afterward Shemira will. You could try Lyca also, with Saurus, but if you don't kill someone from the back line asap that's not going to work.
Your front line looks good, as long as they're staying alive.

[glacial yoke]

Should i change anything from this?

[wooden lynx]

looks pretty good tbh, except that you put 20SI into Shemira instead of Daimon. Daimon should definitely be your focus at this stage. Pray to the rng gods for copies so you can ascend him. Definitely have Eironn on wishlist too if he isn't already. Why is your Saurus 169? Seems like you can reset him and use those resources to boost the 5 chars on the crystal. Check and see that you don't have any others that have unnecessary resources like that.

[pale kettle]

Change respen and zaphrael

[glacial yoke]

Who should i focus on upgrading?

[ember bane]

Need lineup for mauler 400

[pale kettle]

Ideas this is my last battle

[pale kettle]

you can find a ton of guides for that kind of stuff

[pale kettle]

#classic-questions and read the pins

[pale kettle]

read the pins
\

[outer stag]

Any suggestions

[fiery thistle]

Need help on this pls

[tender drum]

how can i beat it? im stuck

[late cradle]

What's the problem? you take a lot of early damage?

[fiery thistle]

Help pls I’ve been a ice on this for too long 😭😭

Ahhhh 😭😭

[tender drum]

its more like i dont do enough dmg since daimon is the only dps

nvm upgraded rosaline and used her

[ebon hazel]

Aight I can't get this

[outer stag]

How do I beat this ?

[ebon hazel]

Check pins in #classic-questions
Wukong Golus Arden Silvana/Vedan and Mirael

...... tf

1, it's mauler tower so no he didn't
2, shemira needs a minute to get to carry level damage, so no he didn't
3, Lucius and shemira are hard countered by literally every enemy here, and are shit in general

Mauler tower, you can only use maulers, no one there is a mauler

Mauler Centaur

Don't use the blonde]

Use this guy instead

Second best mauler fodder, but you don't need 3 carries

Then level Saveas, and hope you can survive with just wukong and vedan

Don't worry, he ascends fast

[pale lagoon]

https://imgur.com/a/StIlwik

Any ideas? Included my box also. Thanks in advance

[ebon hazel]

No, make sure your wish lists only have
LB: Rowan Raine Rosa Gwen Hendrik
Wilder: Tasi Lyca Erionn Pippa Raku
GB: Fareal Daimon Grezhul Thoran Oden
Maulers: Kren Skraith Tidus Skreg Numisu/Antandra

[ebon hazel]

Just drop eironn for Nara, Nara completely bodies Mehira, and gives you the factionbonus on top of it

Select exactly in that rder

[muted mango]

What to do? I have two other towers at 81 and 82

[ebon hazel]

Brutus Tidsu Kren Skreg New girl

[muted mango]

Ok will try

[ebon hazel]

Or
Brutus Tidus New Kren (int to pull Silva)

[outer stag]

How I beat this

[ebon hazel]

Time, you don't have any carries capable of doing it, you need to wait for one.

[outer stag]

🙃

[ebon hazel]

Or you might be able to force it through with Shem

Drop Daimon for Tasi, Satreanna for Brutus

[outer stag]

Ok I will try that

[ebon hazel]

You don't really have much to work with, might also try Droping Lucius for Lyca.

[frigid linden]

switch brutus with thali to stall, maybe try to put kren backline

[muted mango]

None of them worked, they attack too fast I think

[ebon hazel]

The you might just need levels

[flat cosmos]

So I’m rather new, and been kinda blindly playing the game, currently working on early campaign like chapter 10 or something, is my lineup anything decent or am doing some noob mistakes any help would be much appreciated

[soft quarry]

Some help for teams I’m chapter 16

[pale kettle]

Best lineup? I can reset heroes if needed

[stuck jacinth]

Help please

[pale lagoon]

Sorry I was in class - I'll try that, thanks!

Took a couple tries, but it worked! Thanks!

[stuck jacinth]

How do I beat that?

[limpid berry]

Need some help with this

[hushed nova]

Looking for an advice what to do with my current team
Just finished 30-60 but it took me a week just for stage 60

*Rowan/Daimon Si+30

[hoary belfry]

Got back into it after a few months. Lineup suggestions?

[scenic halo]

this is the closest ive gotten to beating it, any help is appreciated

[worn pilot]

Where did all your red chests go?

[torpid lance]

Can I win this or should I change some stuff?

[scenic halo]

into raku @worn pilot and he’s only 29 SI

[torpid lance]

Any advice would be appreciated

[snow sphinx]

Absolutely stumped, idk what to do here

[scenic halo]

try
daimon
-brutus
rowan
-lucius
shemira

or nemora in place of rowan

[torpid lance]

Should I be able to win this one?

[hoary belfry]

Tips

[silent shore]

no offense but the comp looks not ideal. You have daimon and ainz in the same comp which I wouldn't ever recommend. You should utilize Ainz in his own comp and its unnecessary to have 2 game winning carrie sin the same team

[silent shore]

Stop making L heroes until you can make L+ heroes. Joker is honestly not gonna make a huge difference at this stage but he's still niche and nice to use either way. Utilize him as like secondary damage behind Mirial who will be your carry. Then I would say use either Luc/Hogan, Rowan, Eluard maybe, and Lyca?

[torpid lance]

Okay I'll try to make his own comp. The reason I put them together here was because I only needed to win this single battle in order the win the whole comp.

[hoary belfry]

So that last line, that’s my team?

[torpid lance]

Can I win this? Should I switch Heroes around? Not sure what to do about that Gwynneth

[frosty spindle]

Id say you win

[frozen cloak]

Who should I upgrade and I will reset if need be.

[pale lagoon]

Any ideas? If I clear this it'll be 3 chapters cleared in 3 days!

Nvm, got it!

[torpid lance]

Could Ainz be useful anywhere in this comp or should I leave it like this? Or maybe move/add another hero?

[daring oxide]

Took some attempts to attack it and it was tough. I'm pretty sure I can beat it, but I need help on order for heroes from 1 to 5. Thanks

[wooden lynx]

Ainz could be swapped for Tasi for fights where you need damage more than cc, but that's solid, except 9 out of 10 times Rowan is going to work better in the front line than Lyca.

[torpid lance]

Thanks. I switched Rowan with Lyca

[leaden glacier]

I think daimon ferael lyca rowan brutus will be ur best lu til ch 30

[torpid lance]

Yeah I almost exclusively use those right now

[leaden glacier]

I would advice you to build eirron coz later stages will be easier with his pull

[torpid lance]

Alright I will

[turbid minnow]

Any team recommendations

[languid talon]

Should I use Flora or Wu Kong as a new player? Which one is better

[grand perch]

Hello @languid talon,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[scarlet ridge]

is this winnable or do i just have to wait on more xp and dust

[frozen cloak]

Is this winnable or do I need to level up a different character and I’m up to desend if need be

[ember belfry]

Need help with this

[split prairie]

Any suggestions

[gaunt sonnet]

In my situation is it better to get an L+ raku or save to get a M+ tassi?

btw 1 ascended away from having 5 ascended if that helps

[fiery thistle]

Help plsss, they keep on out sustaining me, way too much healing

[fiery thistle]

Try Brutus over thoran, he can survive longer due to his immunity

[fiery thistle]

Try silvina instead of prince or even try moving mirael to the bottom to avoid estrilda horse

[severe lantern]

Chances of winning?

[ember belfry]

not with your stage but you should be reading pins in the questions tab, u usually dont want to ascend your heros to L unless you can ascend to L+ right away. also you should be placing L+ fodder in rc so that your heros can go up to 160,

[severe lantern]

Ik but I already messed up I don’t have anymore fonder hero’s

[ember belfry]

the last person i saw do this was just recommenced to reset, you should get someone else to speak on that, just ask in questions

[severe lantern]

Alright ima try to rng it out a little bit see if that works

[fiery thistle]

You might want to restart your acc, if you follow the guide, you’ll reach where you are rn really quick wi a better lineup

I did the same and got an ascended in like a month

[severe lantern]

I only need to get two fonder heros

I already have 3 L+

So I don’t need to do a full reset

[fiery thistle]

Yah I understand that but trust me your progression will slow down really fast due to the legendaries you have made

[fiery thistle]

Man this stage is frustrating

[maiden vapor]

try
Daimon
Brutus
Nara
Lyca
Oden

[frozen cloak]

I need some help with this stage

[pale lagoon]

use wukong > eirron, and dont make L heroes if you cant make them L+.

[frozen cloak]

Ok

[summer cedar]

there is absolutely no reason to add ainz to this comp. it's great as is

[fiery thistle]

Rip, tried it out, still too much healing 😭

[maiden vapor]

how close r u to +20 si daimon?

[pale kettle]

can someone help me with peaks of times? like help with a ton of lineups

[maiden vapor]

i would just wait until u r overleveled

[pale kettle]

I'm on chapter 19 and cant get the crystal chests from chapter 17 pot

[fiery thistle]

I’m like 18 gold pieces away from 20 daimon

[pale kettle]

I have am M+ daimon and a merc, i should be able to do them

[fiery thistle]

Bro same lmao that one is so tough

[maiden vapor]

ya, the last 3 pot are really hard

[pale kettle]

i can't get any of the crystal chests from 15-18

[fiery thistle]

Ainz dies in like half a second

[fiery thistle]

Nah this is just depressing 😭😭

[maiden vapor]

if u have the gold, i would buy the remaining emblem from the store (+20 daimon makes a huge difference)

[shadow remnant]

Just got past level 100 with my heroes so stepping away from wukong. Unsure on who to line up in my formation. Any help much appreciated.

[fast gyro]

Can someone give me some advice? Stage 11-35

[silent shore]

Hook mirial with Nara not Merick though if tasi is banishing her go for Angelo.

[fast gyro]

Gotcha! Thanks a lot

[spark quartz]

Been at this for hours

[fast gyro]

It worked. Tyvm!

[compact plaza]

Who should I stargaze for a good line up? I have 40 cards

Currently in chapter 22 and occasionally get stuck

[wild tusk]

Currently using wukong, hogan, tasi, arden, and flora. flora is really just a place holder, can anyone tell me which unit I should use intead?

[nimble void]

@past urchin

[past urchin]

Who gets tainted?
(The purple bolt at start)

[hidden cobalt]

Is this how this comp is supposed to look?

[nimble void]

Khasos I believe

[random sonnet]

help my frontline instadies

[past urchin]

Then it looks ok.
You just need a crit.
You may also try removing crit resistance furn even if it disables his 3F effect.
You are 5 pulling anyway so you dont need it.

[nimble void]

Okay

[nimble void]

Idk still, it’s looking worse than it was earlier

[nimble void]

He’s getting 2/3 kills not 4 anymore

[past urchin]

But he still hits everyone or some are too far away now?

[frozen cloak]

Should I change my line up or is this good

[nimble void]

The Tasi is escaping

[past urchin]

Thats Tasi.
If shes not tainted and you cant link her like here you gotta pray she blinks on top of him.
Nothing else you can do.

[nimble void]

Also 2/3 attempts he dies without ulting, would it be better to have just helm or just boots to Boost survivabiltity

[nimble void]

Is there a way to make her be the tainted one?

[past urchin]

Boots and weapon are a must.
Or he will miss a lot.

[languid talon]

https://i.imgur.com/zYM0TJj.png

What lineup should I run? Keep in mind that Merlin and Thali are Trials, so I can only use for another 2 days.

[nimble void]

No I mean boots weapon AND helm/chest

[past urchin]

Helm then.
Avoid chest like a plague cause PR

[nimble void]

Alright, and is there a way to change who gets tainted?

[past urchin]

Nah.
It goeson the lowest HP

[nimble void]

Alright, I’ll just hope for perfect rng then

[elder gale]

wait what tainted is he talking about

[nimble void]

Thoran

[elder gale]

i havent notice thoran use a purple polt, is that a furn thing?

[maiden vapor]

its a regular ability

[nimble void]

No, it’s his ‘taint’ skill, bitten right on skills screen

[elder gale]

oh wait, i just saw wtf never knew i play x4 didnt notice it LOL

[fiery thistle]

Honestly just reset your dudes except for mirael and level up wukong to a 100, he will solo carry for you

[languid talon]

So keep Mirael at 64, rest of XP on Wukong?

And put in rest of heroes for faction bonus?

68 Wukong and 64 Mirael, actually got me through the fight

[frozen cloak]

Should I have a new lineup or keep my current

[elder gale]

is this the proper way to position ainz comp?

[stuck jacinth]

Probably yeah but Idk it’s 5 dim so should be good

Im Stuck help me pls

Someone please I want to unlock stargazer

[soft ridge]

i’ve got no clue i’m only on like 9-3

[past urchin]

Do you have Nemora?

[stuck jacinth]

@past urchin Yes I got her mythic bc albedo is fusioned with her

[past urchin]

That kinda sucks.
Shes a very good Ferael counter early on.

[spring robin]

I mean who cares about lvl 1 signature item albedo

[past urchin]

Thats a fact.

[spring robin]

@stuck jacinth replace her with like daimon and switch lyca and daimon and see how it goes after 10 retries

or just nemora yeah

[stuck jacinth]

So to be clear , ainz daimon lyca nemora rowan?

[past urchin]

Yeah.They have a point.
Your Albedo doesnt do much.
You have to address Ferael or he will destroy you.

[spring robin]

nah replace albedo with nemora and go with it but swap lyca and nemora

[cerulean verge]

Who should I focus on as a line up I started about 2 weeks ago just joined the discord today

[languid talon]

So, I just spend a bunch of diamonds and scrolls from last time typing here, and I apparently pulled some pretty good shit. What to do now? https://i.imgur.com/mllCQJm.png

[spring robin]

check the pinned guides but daimon and izold are very great carries for early to late game

[past urchin]

What we are talking about is you have to make Nemora charm Ferael.
And he will fear his own team, stack spirits on them etc etc

[stuck jacinth]

So far she didn’t do that is the placement with her down there right?

[spring robin]

focus on daimon zaphrael talene kren then later on you will not be able to get them higher level because they are rare so you'll swap for epic characters (go check pinned guides)

[past urchin]

In the middle.
And give it some retries.
Its rng

[stuck jacinth]

She doesn’t charm him idk why

[frozen cloak]

I could use some help I spent 2700 and got 3 Gwyn’s should I change my lineup

[soft ridge]

so i’m struggling with this stage any formations i should change

anyone?

[slate meadow]

Put more maulers to tank and make use of the resonating qrystal

Like savaeus and golus

[frozen cloak]

Should I change my lineup or is it good as it is

[past urchin]

Move Wukong to the front.
Rowan mid back.
Prepare to drop Gwyneth.
And stop making L versions of ascended tier heroes while its still salvageable.

[fallow ruin]

Who here can help me build some teams? Both PvE & PvP
In ch 31 if that helps

[steel fox]

I’m new to the game, can anyone help me who should I level up and or switch

[frozen cloak]

Thank you so much

[stuck jacinth]

Still can’t beat it I tried with Nara aswell and nemora too but she doesn’t want to charm ferael for some reason

[lament iron]

what’s the best comp i can make (overall) w what i have

[leaden glacier]

ainz rowan brutus lyca belinda

[torpid lance]

Why Brutus behind Ainz? Just curious, trying to learn

[leaden glacier]

brutus frontline ofc

[torpid lance]

Oh I thought you said it in a specific order

[leaden glacier]

i would do
ains
brutus
rowan
lyca
belinda

[past urchin]

Just keep trying.
Its a pain but I cant see any other solution that would not involve a merc.

[stuck jacinth]

Im trying since the last few hours bruh

This stage is savage

[past urchin]

Like almost every GB heavy stage.
They are a pain.

[stuck jacinth]

Yeah I even tried using 3 maulers and stuff but ferael is a beast and Isabella too

[past urchin]

Another problem is Grezhul.
Your Ainz and Albedo are not very invested in and Grez has a massive anti-magic shield.

[leaden glacier]

Yeah I even tried using 3 maulers and stuff but ferael is a beast and Isabella too
@stuck jacinth yea fereal is a pain with ainz and isabella can one shot your team if she ults

[whole heron]

Anyone can advise me what is a good combination to run with daimon carry, attached is what I'm currently running and my full hero list available. Many thanks

[lament iron]

ainz is tied to belinda

so maybe talene instead cuz of her healing

[leaden glacier]

yes try talene

i thought your ainz is fused with shem

[lament iron]

i could do that but i needa get my shem to 220 first

[late cradle]

What work best with Daimon is support, he need to stay alive until he cast his blood shield. You can try running Daimon, Rowan, Ferael, Tasi and maybe a tank for the last spot. You don't need another damage dealer he will handle the job solo. Put your Ainz in a cosmic team

[random grove]

Hey all, just got to 34-12 in campaign and need 3 actually competent teams instead of leaning on 2. Ainz, Albedo, and Arthur have keys on them.
What should my 3 teams look like for campaign moving forward?
Usually its like
Farael

Arthur
Gwyneth
Rowan
Rosaline (Gwyneth)
&
Tasi
Lucius
Ainz
Talene
Lyca
& the third team varies a lot

[frozen cloak]

I’m hardstuck on this stage and need some help

[random grove]

Instead of daimon in the corner you could try moving wu kong up there and replacing that middle backrow with eirron to try to suck up the nemora before the ults?

[frozen cloak]

Ok

[old hare]

im stuck on 15-40

[frozen cloak]

So remove diamon

[random grove]

Yeah remove daimon and put wukong in top corner, then put eirron in backrow mid and see if that helps. Lucius should help soak up the grezhul damage so eirron doesnt die right away

[frozen cloak]

Ok thank you

I lost but here are the stats for the fight

[old hare]

could i get some help with 15-40?

[random grove]

What's the enemy lineup in 15-40?

[shy pagoda]

Any suggestions for this stage?

[leaden glacier]

Try
Ainz
Arhur
Rowan
Albedo
Daimon

[shy pagoda]

Got it thanks alot. Had to swap daimon and albedo as she kept dying super fast though

[leaden glacier]

You have great units i think you can speedrun to ch 30 with those

[shy pagoda]

Ty. Been stuck on that one for a while, hoping to smash through quite a few now

[quiet mist]

need help with this stage, im out of ideas

[keen flame]

need help

[rocky moss]

Rowan middle. Antandra front top. Daimon and Brutus low. Nemora backline top

[keen flame]

backline top is...?

[rocky moss]

where your daimon is currently at

[keen flame]

oh ok

[untold hinge]

I'm reeaaal stuck at this stage

Please, help! 😀

[fossil thicket]

any ideas for that one? beeing stuck for over a week :(

[untold hinge]

I meant, this one. Hehe

Sorry, don't need help anymore

[silent shore]

If POP isn't getting 1 shot you may wanna replace silas with him for the stun. Otherwise the lucretia cheese just takes hella RNG

[fossil thicket]

same lineup?

[silent shore]

yeah I mean you're utilizing the Lucretia cheese lineup. There's not much else you can do unless you wanna use a diff carry

[pale lagoon]

is that a 9f chicken? im going to assume so. sylas and brutus can be changed for daimon and rowan, in that order, imo. im not sure, try it. i cleared that with something like;
Daimon/Lyca

Rowan
Farael
Eirron
Lyca/Daimon

I don't specifically remember.

[fossil thicket]

its 3f

[pale lagoon]

oh yeah mb, thats the one i meant

[cursive cliff]

Any suggestions? Tasi is really annoying and I don't have Nara to pull.

[fossil thicket]

thx man finally did it

[random herald]

tasi is the worst enemy ever

[pale lagoon]

gz!

[pale lagoon]

fr, its like vedan at lower levels. bastard.

[random herald]

i still have ptsd from vedan

he is so annoying

[jade shore]

Any help that atha is shredding me

[soft ridge]

Stuck here, any help

[cursive cliff]

nvm, got it

[jolly plume]

main lineup??? i am using thoran daimon fareal shemira and flora for now

[quiet mist]

Aight figured it out myself

[jade shore]

Can someone help

My hero box

[formal mason]

Athalia is busting my ass any suggestions?

[jade shore]

Yo same stage man

[formal mason]

Dude it’s terrible

[jade shore]

And athalia is busting my ass too lol

[jade shore]

How do u have 3 A gbs

[formal mason]

fodder

[jade shore]

I'm literally here waiting for someone to help me get the 20 scrolls

[jade shore]

But how do u get that much fodder from 1 faction

[formal mason]

Sometimes I use elite heros but I will probably never use izold in my life so idc lol

[jade shore]

Man I just want those 20 faction scrolls

[formal mason]

Ikr I just got ascended thoran like yesterday and still can’t pass this goddamn level

[jade shore]

I keep repeating this stage but Ainz only ults once and dies

Ainz bad, I'm prolly gonna have to garrison Albedo

[formal mason]

I don’t really bother with garisonning tbh is it worth?

[jade shore]

Yeah it is worth for some people i.e me

[formal mason]

Daimon is a beast tho highly recommend he can literally 1v4 and win it’s insane

[jade shore]

If u have a good carry I wouldn't go for Ainz

[jade shore]

Yeh I want the faction scrolls to get him to A lol

[formal mason]

Mans hard carried me through 22 and 23