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same i have an account where im 19-20
oh nice! so that’s an alt account then?
mainly just to try out new stuff and yes
that’s understandable, i like having alt accs just to test my luck and see what i can get to try out new teams and see what works
trying to see who could work as a shemira replacement
belinda in the early stages will honestly be your biggest carry
she’s number 8 for hottest heros for stages 16-23 i can’t go back any farther then that tho
damn
but once you get up shes shit :/
oden would be a good replacement aswell
like once you hit 31+ she dropped from rank 8 to 16
thats tough
oden is great for early stages and daimon is a MASSIVE carry from world 1 to 31+
yep im just gonna use shemira to get daimon to legendary, and then level him up and have him carry me
wukong can be swapped with saurus
so is Izold and Grezhul, they’re both p okay in higher up stages, along with Saurus
yeah hold onto Saurus i made the mistake a LOOOONG time ago getting rid of him as fodder at L+ when he’s a A tier character all around
do you think nemora is something i should play instead of merlin since i only have him for a limited time
but now im just gonna use shemira as fodder for daimon
if you absolutely want a support/healer then yes, but trying getting Silas if you can, he’s a S+ hero
yeah silas is gold
nemora is a F tier hero completely but if you ABSOLUTELY want a healer and don’t have silas then yes use her for the time being :)
yep dont have anyone else atm D:
(well nemora is F tier in my opinion) she’s actually a B tier character but that’s still not the best tier that just means shes average
average/underused
This might be pretty strong Wukong will be swapped for Saurus later
replace kren with Raine she’s actually p okay, she’s a B tier hero but buffs damage to enemies making Daimons ult stronger as well as wu’s n belindas. Also make sure you have some sort of faction bonus going, you’ll absolutely need a faction bonus in any way later down the line
This ogi is the biggest issue for me on the current story facedesk
i got 10% hp and 10%hp faction atm
since wukong is a celestial
okay cool, that’s honestly why i said replace kren with raine as well to get that faction bonus because it’s a major diff as little as the percentages seem
hmm yeah kren got 1 shot anyway but the 5 second stun is pretty huge sometimes
yeah kren is good don’t get me wrong he’s also B tier and can be a savior sometimes, but you needed the faction bonus so the sacrifice is worth it in my opinion
this is my main lineup even though Shemira and Seirus is absolute ASS it’s still the best i got
I need help with making a team
show me what ya got
what world-stage are you on so i can understand the meta you might need?
7-10
I get absolute 1 shot, level problem ye?
okay, so, Belinda is a keep in your team currently. She’s best in early stages like that up to abt... stage 20 id say. Focus on trying to get more Izolds and Grehzuls as they’re a carry from early stages up to super late stages like 30+, and so is Eironn. Also i see a massive problem is that you’re leveling all of your heros separately and not using the resonating crystal, level up only five main heros (non fodder) and then put the rest onto the resonating crystal
so id say only manually level up the five main heros i’ll give you based on Tier. Shemira, Isabella, Belinda Rosalina, and Estrilda. Reset the rest and put them on the resonating crystal
you can always rest said heros i give you once you get other better heros at high tiers :)
So basically Saurus and Belinda and nemora on the crystale
Is nemora 9 worth investing in if you accidently have 6
belinda manuel yes my bad
Manually level Daimon, Belinda, Nemora (because they’re your highest tier characters) and the other two are your choice, the rest put onto the resonating crystal
gotchu
Thanks pckt
i’d say level manually the fire girl and Ogi just for starters because you don’t have any others over elite +
ofc!!
Like this?
yasss
just tried a battle, only 1 who got to cast was daimon
your hero lineup is good, it just might be the level and tiers of your heros becayse look at the skill rating difference.
oh yeah level is a problem it would seem
in early stages like that you will get stuck for a bit because of level restriction and tier restriction 
yeaaah :( did you redeem the gift code lilith sent out? that might help you !
i did... i didnt get a single elite
i could try my luck in another server
but it is so much workkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
i’m so sorry
if it makes you feel better i got one elite but for the singular character i have five starred 
dayum
LOLL YEAH
Anything I can change
Why are you pulling Merrick w Eironn. You should be trying to pull the Mirial and you have Lyca for haste buff to pull in front of the Estrilda too
hes fine
I think I’m just too weak but help appreciated
He doesn't need to survive you need a carry
Yea so put DAimon close his shield works really well when there are a lot of enemies near him
put him in position 5 and eironn in 4
I messed up my wording I meant put Eironn in 3 and Daimon in 4
Yeah you want eironn top left right?
Yea so he can suck the Mirial and Daimon just fast absorbs
Then keep trying but the Eironn should be top left
all g man gl
Any help getting 3 teams for arena of heroes and heroes of esperia? I never focused on pvp :(
Any advice for the HoE event, I need a team and I suck at making teams, also there might be a lot of junk since I just summoned
Please help I want to cry
first team lacks damage
you are probably managing to stay alive but im prety sure you arent dealing any damage to them
how close are you to make albedo +30? also are you close to skirath (chicken) 3 furniture?
I haven't unlocked her weapon lol
0 Furn on Skraith I think
ok, what i ment was, you have 2 really good comps that will be able to do 100+ diff from the point you are on but those are 2 keyfactors for the 2 comps i'll suggest
Ainz+albedo+rowan+arthur + 1 hero of choice either dimensional or an elite talene, anything works is 1comp / 2nd comp you almost have ready Chicken(needs 3 furniture) eiron safiya queen lyca
I haven't really made any comps, The dims have no gear or weapon unlocks at all
Skraith has no furn because I am not getting any for him my luck is bad
the dims wont need any gear to work at the 45lvl deficit you are at
the ainz albedo arthur rowan is insanely strong, even without the SI/gear which you can work on whenever you want
if you decide for that comp, the +30 albedo is the priorty, but if not its fine, you can still try it to see how it works atm
instead of ezio you can try different things, even Pop/lucius/ferael
even daimon
but you could put daimon as in the 2nd team, your lvl deficit isnt that high he can almost solo carry these
I don't even know what to link my Arthur too or my prince of percia
ill try to help you more, check out private
alright so, ask what else you are interested to know 
I'll just try on my own
The dim set up does not work, Alb and Ainz get instantly oneshot. I need something I can use to beat the first level with my current set up of heroes. Not what I should build. Or should have build. That does not help me
Try daimon behind arthur, rowan in middle behind arthur aswell
Can't use Dia for first he is needed for second or I just lose, I can get past the first one no problem if I use DIa
since daimon is stronger, use him against the stronger team (team 1)
and try different things for 2nd team instead
For Arena Defense, do I go with Flora or the Twins?
And yes, I did actually manage to find a working formation thats actually been faring better than my previous so-called perfect one
Its amazing how replacing two of the characters makes a huge difference (Wu Kong formerly in place of Rosaline, Thoran in place of Torne)
I need help 
Ok, what are some teams I could use for HoE
These Ainz/Dimensional teams are pissing me off
Need general lineup help as this is getting progressively more awkward. I’m one mauler away from being able to bump my crystal from 120 to 140-160, just been unlucky. Going forward + this stage, what should I swap out? Thoran’s been feeling absolutely useless for the longest time and Hogan’s just there bc Grez feels even worse
any ideas?
Show roster, not just wilders.
Anyone got funny themed lineups? I could only think of a few like using only characters that float, or like the physically largest characters possible
Oh also the lineup with the best drip 
How to beat the supertank Shemira on floor 525?
If you've got a Thoran cheese solution, it would be appreciated too. Just tell me the positioning.
any ideas?
@fossil thicket no ainz?
@prime plaza i dont exactly know how this works but i had him for a few days or weeks earlier
@prime plaza i just used many coins for the prince, should i use all my others for ainz?
Ainz is one of the strongest heroes in the game. However you also need to have Albedo +30 for his true potential to be unleashed
sooo what do you think? should i het him?
Yup. Make sure to save for Merlin too.
do i have time for that?
and who do i bind him with? my prince is binded with shemira
Anything you have ascended by then.
Prioritize Merlin first though as his exchange is ongoing.
@fossil thicket garrison ainz albedo best you can, but main resources have to be there for Merlin. Bind to whoever is highest ascension. If required remove prince and bind ainz instead
Also save red chests and dimensional Emblems for Albedo and red furniture cards for Ainz
Ainz Albedo will make you breeze through PvP, Lab, high level Tower and a large portion of Campaign. Prince is a good hero but he can't carry you like that.
kk thanks guys, but is it good that i use my red chests for rowan right now?
Yup, Rowan is the best support in the game and works in all teams
Yup
Arthur and then dimensional emblems then red chests
kk so i keep all my challenger, hero and guildcoins?
Hmm, buy Ezizh until he's Mythic
After that you can just save it or finish Ezizh. If you play lots of PvP Athalia and Zolrath are also very strong there.
but right now i buy nothing bc of merlin?
ahh okay thanks
Can someone help me with a line up to clear chapter 14-37
How do I win this? I have two spots on the crystal if needed
It ends up with the daimon dying 1 v 3 normally with the bottom Isabelle doing bits
Use Nara for Isabella and put Daimon behind a Thoran honestly or whoever your tank is. I’d also use Raku for vc and then put a mage in the front for the Silvia
You mainly need more support. You don't need Mirael at this point since you have diamon. Also try to get Brutus to replace thoran for now
Can u show me what that looks like? I have been using damon behind izold at the top and losing
Looking for some help on HoE team lineup, I'm stuck in low gold getting wrecked by Ainz etc
Try forfeiting in enemy ainz comp rather than headbutt it
Need help making 3 hoe teams
guys I’m a beginner and I need help..I have brutus,wukong,mirael,shemira and rowan in my team.. now from the labyrinth store I can buy copies of either wukong or shemira..Im also planning to remove mirael and max on of these 2 heroes and put a support hero like lyca..so which hero copies I should focus..wu kong or shemira? who is a better carry?
Could someone please help me make HoE Teams
Help please, I'm stuck I just get completely wiped out
Any help please
Daimon?
Anyway to deal with Isabella before she ults?
Tasi to stun or Farael to cc?
Tried to use Tasi but she gets one-shot by Silvina
Are u sure that eironn is doing a lot of work?
Eh honestly just tried to use him to pull her towards Daimon
Isn't daimon global tho? 🧐
Auto her = giving her energy no?
If u cannot kill her fast enough with autoes, then try to not aggravate her ?
then cc with tasi or Farael? I might not be right, but its just my thinking process
Tried switching it up but she just kills the rest before Daimon, giving her energy for the ultimate sadly
Guessing I just need to bump Daimon to 240 but just waiting for copies to get 2 more heroes to ascended
anyone have any ideas how i get past this with what i have?
nvm merlin got me through it
Wukong and shemira are both useless at that stage
Put nara in to pull isabella get lyca out and put in either eironn there or odin
Rowan talene twins tasi ezih or saurus instead of ezizh
The best way to deal with isabella is nara and odin. Nara buys you the most time to pull her of the most heroes. Odin to get the front outta the way to get diamon to insta hit her when nara pulls isabella and odin still to make her not ulti just in case
Personally I use that same lineup except lucretia instead of tasi
Frontline Rowan
He cleared it
Tasi for that weak lightbearer daimon for the mauler
@snow vault Welp, cleared it first try. Even though Odin died inmediatly, thank you!
Np yeah he probs didd coz silvana usually jumps him but he his first teleport gets the front away from ur diamon so daimon can target isabella right away as i said ^^ happy you cleared it. Luv~
Whos linked to ur prince?
Belinda
Diamon arthur front prince rowen farel
Is far worth investing in?
Depends
I have him sorta scuffed and abandoned
I just said on what you have now
U'll change ur team ofc based on what you get later ^^
But do I invest in him now?
Neah
Just keep him there for some utility in case you need. And depends what ur main carry will be
Daimon?
Since you have ascended diamon i recommend using daimon hes rlly good
You use as i said daimon arthur rowen prince and switch around farel nara example for fear or pull depending on the stages
Try to get merlin if you can would be a good addition specially since you have arthur
Mhmm!
With rowen prince merlin i dont see ur daimon dying
And you have a good front and some cc too with prince and rowen
Will look good like that ^^ just keep gathering and dont invest blindfooly ^^
Just be patient ^^ thats the secret of this game
What signature item lvl should I have on my daimon?
Rowan over daimon to 30 first though, or?
I'd say yeah as giving Rowan SI 30 Will make Daimon an ulting machine
SI 20 is a must on Daimon for him to be OP though
Well not just Daimon, everyone really.
But they work really well together, been pushing chapters with just those two
First main carry after rowen ^^ diamon needs his shield uptime as much as possible
@snow vault Hey sorry to bother you but do you have any idea how to pass here?
Thought I'd use brutus for Athalia to keep her busy but to no avail
Try put diamon in front of tasi and try nara the silvana of ur rowen
Also mid rowen
If that dosent works try front the rowen vs tasi get thoran out and put in odin maybe he will R anth to not R and 1 shoot ur team
You dont need lyca in diamon comps. Odi nara way better
And unless u go for thoran cheese team id get him out too
Thoran cheese not rlly good early its just situation cheese
- he needs 30 sign to do his cheese better
On who silvana jumps?
You got merlin and rowen lol front line ur diamon
Get feral out put nara to pull in belinda
so like this, had tasi but bound her to merlin
Get ferel out hes useless there
aight
Put alna in front with diamon
alright
Merlin top rowen mid nara bot try 5 times like that
won first try thanks
Np ^^
put rowan mid merlin top and naru to get belinda
Yes
If you get teoubles again unless is power diff. Try using nara to pull in the heroes that give you trouble
I dont ferel he just fears for 1 second thats like useless compared to nara pulling and 5 seconds stunning 1 hero
understood, only got one copy of naru
trying to build daimon comp as well as other stuff later on
wow completed chapter 16 who naru was so strong lol
Any suggestions?
Help to arrange 3 teams for me
Help pls
Maybe swap the monkey guy with the tank, then put the fox girl in the back line
Can someone help me
Use Rosalein instead of schemara or gwenith
I can manage to clear the 4th stage if I have ezizh at 5. But I need ezizh for team 3… having trouble with team 4 substitutes
Try something like this
Can you free up Lyca or Rowan somewhere to help for your cheese?
@nocturne furnace That's the stage I'm trying to cheese. I'm pretty newbie with Lucretia, I usually put whatever's free.
I'd appreciate to save up Eironn/Skriath, as I might use them for 2nd fight
Queen and lorsan along with fodder hypos
I also need to save up Lorsan for the 2nd fight, it's a Thoran cheese x)
I gave 150 tries to r2 with that and it does not work. that's why I might test with 5pull Thoran
Honestly throw in random stuff to get her to survive long enough to ult. Most of the time changer her from frontline to back line matters the most because of the way her kit starts
ill check my clears to see what i did, but pretty sure i stuck luc in 5pull on r3
Frontline for survivability but lower dmg, fast dmg squishy on backline
Like that? Not sure if it is doomed or has hope haha
With lucretia the resets are usually aiming for the rng where she gets to ult and is still healthy after. Does that comp get close?
Well, she ults
Bc once she is enabled, sky is the limit but the comp just needs her to get that little headstart. So the only thing I could think to help would maybe be haste instead of mortas
Once and dies fast after. It does not look too bad, but I'm wondering how much RNG this would require, or if it's just doomed
okay so apparently i daimon gwyn that round, then luc r3
Lol, Daimon Gwyn? Oo"
rowan lyca daimon gwyn fera
r1 = r3 by the way. Same heroes. Just different ascension levels
Can you check replays in game or do you have them saved?
only 1 lvl higher then u and enemy lvl is the same. have them saved
My Gwyn is 003 though
5pull luc should help, not cheese luc whoops
For sure. But my concern will be r2... I need to Thoran cheese it because I don't have other comps. It's a pretty tough stage to Thoran cheese and I think I should save up 5pull for it
This is r2. The comp does not work (150 tries). I might swap in chicken and Eironn to try differently
u need to pull the numisu over or its not gonna work
Roaster (+ Mehira, Safiya, Lorsan & Kelthur E)
rowan has immunity so cant him
Numisu & Rowan are linked by Lorsan, I thought it would be enough
Morvus gets the taint
He does not
yeah, gotta pull numisu over then
I think this would be my higher chance to pass it
I mean, it does not get very close to a victory.
yeah that could work
But if something can be cheesed, it's really this round I guess. r1 and r3 have a middleback Rowan
let's say it might work, I have to figure out r1 with Lucretia as a merc and without 5Pull... Haha
you can t luc vs rosaline
does your thoran manage to ult?
He ults twice with no problems. Just lack damages to kill everyone
i would move luc chees r3 and daimon r1
does your whole team dies before he ults?
Yeap
I can try that.
I'm going with Tasi Lyca Daimon Mehi Fera
yea, I m not experience enough to help you then. You can try if luc would beat r2 just for info
She does with no problems. But if I do so, I don't know how to clean r3 anymore... Haha.
who can be your carry except daymon, luc and thoran?
on who did you use dim key?
No one yet
I feel like I’m at a total stand still in kings tower and story, who should I be using in my lineup?
Hi friends, what could be the best teams for Esperia arena?
Right now I'm using:
Team 1:
Nemora
Rowan
Tasi
Brutus
Raku
Team 2:
Numisu
Thoran
Nara
Estrilda
Belinda
Team 3:
Shemira
Lucius
Pippa
Skreg
Daimon
PoP is linked to Estrilda and QUEEN to Thoran
Just focus on progressing your heroes, you’ll get stuck from time to time and the only thing that can move you forward is powering up. You’re really low powered right now, so levels are the most important for buffs
I actually just got way ahead
I gotta know what characters to power up before I level them though
Whats the best team for campaign with what I got?
Real easy to find out
?
Any suggestions here?
Hi guys, can you help me with my first line up? It should Kun + whom from actual squad?
Currently I run Kaz and Tasi at front with Lica Mehira and Solise in backline.
Wanted any recommendations
Probably Kong and Antandra at front with Fereal Eironn and Merlin backline
Antandra isn’t really good but shes what ya got as another front
Thanks! I used all redemption codes + initial diamonds, but dont get something good :(
Replace Merlin with Kren probably
Fereal is pretty solid from what I’ve heard. I haven’t used him myself but he definitely frags
Sounds good :)
Is this my best team??
Do I just have to wait until I have the dust to level my Niru??
Help pls
I am struggling does anyone know how I can beat this
u got nara?
yeah
try to hook beard guy until u beat it, rng will get u there sooner or later
k thanks
I need to pass this last fight:
I tried 5pull+Thoran: I can't kill Rowan, due to his energy shield
dude theres no way
Rosaline goes towards Warek, for info.
just make daimon survive and 1shot them all, thats ur main goal
ive spent 1h+ just spamming retry on some stages until i win, im a fiend tho idk if you have the patience
Rowan mid, swap daimon and lyca position
alr
Any tips?
tried 10 times didnt work
struggling with 18-40, can anyone help :)
yeah upgrade more
10 times is nothing. Was it close?
nope just loss after loss
10x 
It took me a thousand retries to clear 15-36
And takes me like a few hundred to Thoran cheese in chapter 36
Show your hero roster
Try more scenarious
- Front row diamon brutus daimon bot in front. Rowen mid nara top to pull samira
2 try same line up but with nara mid to pull arden
Try it more times with each formation
If none work ur team might be too under lvled for the stage. Normally diamon could carry it alone if he has good gear and sign +30
i have daimon +20, i'll try those comps, ty
On the 2. Put rowen bot to reach daimon
You probs saw to front row ur rowen but thats a mistake in early stages. Rowen goes front only when hes ascended and has some furniture too and sign +30 in my hones opinion untill then rowen front only works situatuonal
i had him frontrow to pray for evades and the afterdeath heals
Hes more viable alive to ulti and stun and heal in early game
i see, thanks for the help
Specially with a front like daimon and brutus who will stay alive a long time
sorry I didnt see it sooner
No problem
Prince is only good with his sign so link him to lyca
His sign does that thing where it allows him to reajust position. That makes him survive so unless u have him with sign hes pretty bad
I need help with making a team
i won, thanks a lot :D
try; brutus lyca silas daimon nara
@worldly apex happy i could help ^^
@snow vault I am once again asking tips for a lineup from the lineup wizard
so far I have killed one enemy out of all the attempts
progress lets goooo!
I mean true
@ashen silo switch daimon with thoran and get lyca out and try to nara verk. Or try to top nara if she wont get stun before her pull.
@ashen silo try that a few turns to see how things develop. If its not working get out feral too and put in odin
@ashen silo or another way you can try is to keep feral out and use nara and keep lyca in the team.
@ashen silo if u use odin i believe he should portap estrilda
About to try it @snow vault
killed kaz :D now 4 more to go
@thorny oracle you need to deal with the nemora and arden in that team
If nemora ultis you will lose 100%
should I athalia nemora?
Cant you nara her?
what about arden tho
Try it and see what works ^^
ok
Put brutus ib front of kaz. Coz caz gonna buy a lot of time for her team with her dodging
But aslong nemora ultis the stupid tree will mow down ur team
k
And arden probs will 1 shoot ur team too so. Try to disrupt thouse two
alr ty
You can try anth nara odin eironn to pull em in for fast kill. You got the options just give it the trys ^^ with that team retry formations coz there is the arden root rng in there
Good luck ^^
I almost one the other way so ima try it tysm :)

@snow vault Getting closer! Daimon just needs to ult 2/3x
@ashen silo yeah their team is anmoying verk poison tasi estrilda stuns
Im sure ull figure it out ^^
Yeah its pretty difficult, made even more difficult because my levels arent really up to par with the level difference @snow vault
Yeah might just be power diff too. So waiting can solve it too ^^
Ur daimon has +30 sign and 3 fur? Ur rowen the same? If not thouse ars ur prioritys
So impatient xD
Yeah im working on them, Daimon has S20 but no furniture, I do have 2 mythic cards but I need to get atleast 1 first
Rowen +30 will make diamon ulti faster
Rowan is at SI 26, those emblems are such a pain in the ass to get
But also if daimon ultis faster without +30 sign he will die faster coz his shield refreshes when ultis
Use call on diamon too
this is the team :D I killed arden and nemora tysm just more replaying and I think I got this
Yeah keep retrying! Usually when you are that close you will beat it after a few more tries @thorny oracle
@thorny oracle good job try it twerk it around and im sure ull get it. Maybe switch some gears of the heroes
@snow vault That one right?
I'm hoping 3F will make a difference as well
Yes will
But sign 30 is very important to keep the shield up for 7 seconds after ulti
Dont suppose there is a fast way to get Emblems other than buying right?
Thats so frustrating since I literally need to clear just THIS level to unlock a new Peak
@ashen silo ur at stage 25 and you have done all peaks yet? Wow
@ashen silo normally you should be done with all peaks at around stage 23 as f2p
Just these still I guess
Ohh right you scared me for a second haha
Yeah takes some time :3
Patience is the secret of the game so :P either that or 100k € to max everything and go on the whaling side ^^
Haha yeah true, just impatient because I used to fly through chapters until about 24 and now it takes like an hour per stage and its so frustrating! Also I only bought like some 1 euro deals and the Advancement Rewards.. Already feel like I spent too much 
Its patience then ^^
I have no clue what's the best for this, they keep kicking my butt
Isabella
Isabella 
Thats the problem there @void zealot
Which one is Isabella?
Maybe you could use trying Wukong to stall out the fight, he was my earliest carry
Middle back row
Gotcha
@ashen silo if he stalls isabella will ulti xD
I mean she will ult his clones right :D
If isabella ultis its lost :)
That statement only gets truer the more you progress sadly
Isabella probs ultis faster than his wu anyways :) and + clones wont help much
Yup
Try to pull her with a nara or eiron. Or use a odin to break her energy
I have no clue their names still, but which of these would be good when I can resonate them?
@void zealot yeah u dont have
Well put diamon in front next to ur brutus and the spear lady back. And wait for some more lvles
Daimon is a tank that does %hp dmg
I'll try that
Okay
Brutus daimon front. Top tasi mid rowen bot nemora
Try that maybe you can survive isabella burst like that. If not u need either more lvls to surpass or some hero to disrupt isabella
I need more lvls, keep getting defeated
Your level is fine yeah, you could be at where I am and still progress
My gear is definitely the issue
Yeah is just a thing. You need to disrupt that isabella
If she ultis she will blow ur team :(
What does her ult do?
A crazy amount of dmg
Gotcha, I only started 3 days ago so I'm still learning
@void zealot
Geez
Even prioritizes the most injured hero basically executing them, its pretty insane
That is insane
Yeah basically 3 4 will die instantly from her ulti
Any ideas ;-;
You should see when ur vs 2 ascended isabellas or even 3 as i saw in tower ones. Like fk you game xD
@latent rapids Do you have a way of disrupting isabella?
That sounds like absolute pain
You could try and use Eironn to pull her and Daimon in the front to attack her @latent rapids
Would a nara work?
@latent rapids yes nara better than eiron for single pull
Yeah she kick her to hell xD and if ur lucky she can execute her too
Yeah tysm
They got a silvana too she will jump on ur rowen i guess so add both rowen and merlin in team@latent rapids
Ok
Estrilda keeps stunning Daimon preventing him to do anything and I just 
FINALLY TYSMMMMM
@ashen silo get daimon out of estrilsas way
LETS GOO @thorny oracle
@thorny oracle happy for ya ^^
Thank you both so much
@snow vault I wish but this setup has been the closest I've gotten so far
always nara the rat from my experience
@ashen silo diamon dies to the stupid rapier guy? Forgot his name
Thane? Let me check the dmg thingy
@thorny oracle yeah or isabella or nemora xD
If ur diamon survives in front of thane that position for daimon should be better
Its Raine of all heroes @snow vault
Would this work?
I love how when the AI uses them they are so good but when we use her its F tier
@latent rapids yeah give it a few tryes. If its not working put daimon bot front and put saurus top front and nara instead of ezio
Welp the Raine does consistently but the rest refuses to die
wow ty it worked first try
@latent rapids 
😢
Any ideas for this?
You could try placing Daimon behind Brutus for him to ult more @void zealot
Okay
@void zealot Could try using this https://afkhelper.nax.is/, its not perfect but it shows you different builds by different players who've passed the stages
Will do
Found a person who completed it with heros I have, have to wait for my rc cool down to end to resonate one of them
You can speed it up for 100 diamonds I think? Also keep in mind while they might have the same heroes, it doesnt mean that your gear/ascension levels/Items are the same so it isnt a guaranteed win
But yeah that website has helped me through some difficult stages
That makes sense
Any luck so far? @void zealot
Nope, doing my daily stuff rn in hopes of better gear
Argh I can kill the vurk and Raine but the rest is just not willing to die
Try using Daimon, Rowan, Nara, Lyca, and Ferael
@tight juniper In that order?
Yeah
@errant tangle yes its good. ^^
@errant tangle you will change ur formation later based on what you fight ^^ but no worrys till then :)
Ok
@ashen silo I finally was able to beat it! Thank you for showing me that site
formations don't really matter that early into the game. You just got to funnel your resources towards your carry. Like, Shemira should be lvl 80 (or more) there, not Nemora/Tasi
Can someone look at my roster and tell me 3 solid comps I can put together for multis?
Ainz+Alb, Honsetly Prince CC with raku/tasi/lyca/nemora is coming out, you couldo go for a graveborn comp or attempt Thoran Cheese
Tyvm I will try this one, is Skriath being +30 necessary? Might have to merc that one
the more levels you have compared to me, the less you need it. macro half hour if it still fails then merc one
Okok tyvm for everything. I will get lvl 400 soon, I will try then
Hey has anyone done the arena of trials for the new mauler yet?
@crisp atlas simple dont let khaz and isabella ulti
Aaa its tryals lol
Well you got few optiona try them ^^
Hej, any ideas?
Help please
@molten eagle try to swap Belinda for Shemira
Alr
@molten eagle what's the issue you are facing? Does it burst too much or what?
No it’s just top right on the other team takes out my heroes mad fast and my wukong dies to quick
try to mirror ur team, top left to bottom left etc, doesn't help a lot but got me through some levels
You can put Brutus frontline on the side that bursts the most
Any better composition then my team now?
Please help
Tried with Lyca instead of PoP/Alna?
Any suggestions? I think I have the correct heroes, but not sure how to line them up optimally
Lyca instantly dies. Pretty much everyone except PoP is dying instantly
Nara
-- Lyca
Mirael
-- Brutus/PoP/Alna
Arden
something like this maybe
Still getting wiped
What wipes you?
Mostly Saveas and vedan
Nvm managed to beat it using this team
Still looking for ideas :)
use nara to pull the isabelle
Wait how does that work? What do you mean exactly?
nara basically pulls the opposite enemy to her and stuns them for a little bit
Eironn or tasi as next mythic?
I'm not the best at team making so can I get some help with this??
L+?
No problem! Glad you got past it 😄
Anyone know a team i should use
ainz, daimon, cheese. u can't use raku until +30
I might try arden over nara. also pop is a bit underwhelming before M. daimon or lyca instead.
Hi Good morning
Im currently stuck here, any ideas? The vampire is the only one remaining and wipe out the rest of my team
Wish all have good units
Willing to insert someone in crystal? Try using arden instead of gwyneth or shemira (whichever is less impactful in your comp)
any ideas here?
You could try swapping Rowan and lucretia levels, so luc is 240 and Rowan is 200
@hard forge oh yeah i just got her to A haha forgot to lvl her
PoP was always the last to die
Lyca is quite a disappointment almost instantly dying
I managed to beat it using this lineup
eironn one shots everything in front of him except mehira, is there any way i can stop him from using the suck ability
Pls gib help. Suggest what my lineup should be

How do I encounter ezizh it stops my Lucretia from ulting
Who to use as comp
The Belinda is absolutely stomping me. The Brutus shield prevents izold from doing his thing also
What specific lineup should I use for ToG
Thank you
Nara maybe
Thank you, ill try changing for Gwyneth
I would Love if someome can help/improve my HoE 5 team xD
I am Brainless (Pm me if interested)
Talene broken ?
Talene is pretty good
mmh ty
@white cliff try to use nara or eironn to pull binda
they get killed by belinda splash ball ability
@white cliff if you pull her with nara she shouldnt do the ball
@valid timber disgusting floor. You need a good front vs that
box is that team, +0 fawkes and e+ cece. yeah i feel like ill need a merc
I dont think gwyn is good on that floor try with sum else
she shoots my front line and it splashes the back
who tho
@valid timber idk show me ur heroes
Did you try to front row rowen? And get rosaline out and try fawkes
If you have SI on fawkes he will give you deff to ur team
Maybe swtich in rosaline for raine
You can also try to make rosaline follow rowen if he survives to give him another ulti for survability
rowan frontline is definitely the move but the rest of the comp just dies
Then its waiting if nothing works ^^ or maybe when u get a lucius ^^
lucius over hendrick?
You said ur whole team dies lucius shield might help with that
Dont stress too much over 1 random floor ull get it with time
Im guess you have SI30 on rowen right?
i feel like if i merc hendrik as long as he protects gwyn with rosa following rowan it might work
He wont vs that team
yeah 303
Coz when thouse 2 gonna go in spectral state they gonna demolish ur gwyn
Gwyn is always bad vs invaders or jumpers or anything that gets mele range of her
New to the game, who should I be using?
@neon ingot eironn for now brutus front fawkes. Wukong front nemora
@neon ingot you might want to wait few days to see what else you get. To know which direction you go for
Thanks 😊
@neon ingot its no rush patience is key.
i remember using 1-5 cec,rowan,estrilda belinda rosa try and sub bel for gwyn see if it works
@storm epoch i didnt see belinda in his hero list i think he did use her as food
@storm epoch as i said gwyn is bad vs that team :) so je can just wait for some more.lvls and clear it later. No point investing in other chars for 1 faction tower floor
@pale kettle diamon. Thoran front. Feral. Shamira. Arden/nara/lyca/need a healer like silas or rowen or merlin
@pale kettle you could wait a bit more to see what else you get. To know which direction to head for.
For now use lucius front with the (fist guy forgot his name.) Front. Merlin gwyb peggy back
who should I put on my wishlist
need tank tho
You got 2 tanks
Orthos traaaaaaaaash tank
@pale kettle
@pale kettle till you get sum else you can use him ^^ or try wukong instead then
@pale kettle or diamon too
@pale kettle for now you can go lucius orthos tanks gwyn peggy merlin or switch peggy for odin and go diamon instead of orthos then. Just be patient and see bit later what ull focus on
@pale kettle you can then lucius diamon shamira odin. Merlin
k
Any ideas on good comps for PVE?
Ainzbedo comp
Can anyone suggest 2 team comps for the multi stages pls.
Can somebody help? I can't go further any team i made got wiped out
Hey guys, i reached faction towers and i am looking for team suggestions for my box. (and should i ascend cecillia or wait for someone else 8 copies?)
For GB, ascend Ferael. For Wilder, get copies of Tasi. You can also build Eironn. For mauler, even though you have fodder for Kren, I would suggest Tidus and Skriath so you can use the 5 pull comp later on. For LB, you can work on Raine and Estrilda for bossing. Gwen for tower is also good.
Hello i wanna get some help from you guys about what teamcomps i can make for esperia, please help
is my discord bugged or did you answered my question on his box screenshots and dont see mine. bc i dont see a question from him just 4 screens
I answered his question. I didn’t see yours
For LB, I would suggest Gwen, Rosaline, Raine, Estrilda. For Mauler, Tidus, Skreg, Kren are good for tower. You could work on Tasi and Raku for wilders. Grez for GB is good.
Can i get some help pls

I’m sorry I’m not so sure about HoE comps
What about normal teamcomps
From what I can see, you could form 3 teams. Daimon, Ainz, 5 Pull with Luc
@languid knot What is 5 pull with luc, can u help me
Safiya, Eironn, Skriath, Lucretia, Brutus/Lyca
Skriath needs 3/9 furn
Is it worth doing it even tho my skirath is L+
Get it to A and 3/9 furn
I think Daimon can just be a GB comp with Rowan to speed up Daimon ult
Or you can run Tasi Daimon Ferael Grez
Ainz with Albedo Arthur Rowan PoP/Talene
Then is it better to stick rowan on daimon comp, or ainz comp
What multifight are you on now? How many teams do you need?
3
It really depends if you can win the fight without rowan, then save rowan for the other team
Is 20->30 si ezizh impactful or 3/9 9/9 make any significant difference..?
Trying to make my exizh less squishy in pvp
What’s the best 3 team composition for legends tournament
how can I make my team better
At what point do I actually need to care about lineup?
no, i don't answer random pings. this server ain't my job lol.
Ok sorry
Is there any mauler that can ground a frontline flora before she ascends? Stuck on a flora floor in the mauler tower (387)
What team and order i should use, got a eluard merc but still can find a position to win
Not sure about grounding, but skriath’s 9/9 will cut her travel speed in the air in half, which gives time for a Kren ult/Antandra ramp up
Ok, thanks. I'll try to merc a strong Skriath then. I have kren at 19 and plan to go all the way when I can, but I'll try
Here’s how slow she moves
Nice, haven't prioritised that furniture myself. But might try on my 2nd account where I invest in more niche heroes (not that Skriath is niche, but I don't believe guides show that is 9f is that strong)
Yeah I maxed mine kind of as a joke and because I like the character, but I was very pleasantly surprised about the Flora thing.
I'm currently building antandra as well. Lots of fun maulers to try
Not sure about drez yet though
Anyone got any ideas?
Any suggestions on this stage?
What's my best celestial tower team and who should I be renting to push it? I will be working on athalia from challenger store after one more purchase of ezizh and need 3 more live then ik gazing for alna
First off please pull belinda off your wishlist she does not need stars
I no longer have Belinda on wish
Second I'd out rowan in front of thane put thoran where mauler boi is
I built solcise for a dim folder
Give that a couple runs and see
At L+ thoran gets 1 shot
I'd try belinda or rowan give it a couple tries
I'd expect him to but his taint should nearly oneshot someone
What happens?
Death
Who does in what order do any of them die does anyone get low on thier team gets the taint or does it go to thane who avoids it?
Need some advice on who I should play, thx!
I really dislike vurk
Can I get team comp suggestions?
Level up ur shemira shes busted until like chapter 23
what should my team be?
Im not that good at the game but id say top use ur top characters minus the mauler
have you checked out the guides pinned in #classic-questions?
Wu and the gold one in front and the others in the back
overlevel wukong, use him as carry until he's capped. at that point, you can switch to mirael carry if no other options until level 160
drop shem for rowan or ferael, she's absolutely useless here
Ok ferael worked
Good formation pls
check out afkhelper.nax @open arrow
stuck on an early chapter stage, sadge
Lol, you’ll see the real stuck in ch 36+
@open arrow I'd think twice about pulling rosa and the hero she follows. She'd just sweep your team to oblivion
?
Any idea how to counter the his lineup PvP?
Any help with this fight? Trying to somehow squeeze through chapter 29 clear for the unlocks
i already used mercs
Can you show your box
Been stuck here for about a week, any tips?
suggestions for HoE 5 teams
what should i use and how should i lne them up?
I’m still fairly early game but I would do Rowan and brutus as tank and shemira, wukong, mireal
Use nara to pull mehira. If you're not using ainz comp you cannot let her get her bats
i tried with nara but it wasnt enough to let daimon do his thing @high marlin but ill try again and see if i can craft something
The only other thing I can recommend is that you can use an Athalia. You just have to disrupt her
Can I get help building team for tower
You should read the beginner guide in #classic-questions, according to what you are currently ascending
Is PoP 203 good at PvP?
Can I get some suggestions for HoE?
Been Stuck for 2 days
Try
Daimon Brutus
Mirael Lyca Silas
Would be better if you can reset your archer girl and level up Mirael instead
the tasi cc ing my daimon 24/7 - how can i counter her?
Your still really early just focus on leveling up progressing in campaine and summons 10x. But like the first row you have is full of the best heroes in the game atm
@next pelican pull her with eiron or nara
should i match athalia with daimon or which hero?
Tank with brutus might be work keep tryn id use daimon 240 on my alt and reach map 27
Stargaze luc also is good option
Can anyone help with my lineup? I'm still very early game but have hit a bit of a wall in the campaign at chapter 7 thanks!
I'd say trying Wukong, Estrilda, Rosaline, Nara, Safiya
Any way I can beat this?
Still trying to beat this one. Lineup?
Nvm, seems I have a 100% win chances immediately after posting for help. Even if I lost 20+ x.
Arden instead of oden,and put lyca in front of daimon
@worthy steeple
I see, your problem is silvina killing silas too early
Well, Put rowan instead of silas and place him mid back
Try removing Arden and putting Rowan in middle back.
What is a good f2p daimon team
@severe cloud Reset Ira in the cart and put all levels into Mirael
Ok I'm using current
Using the top 4 and the old guy you get for 3 days should I change those
Or just replace irs for mirael
It's usually better to funnel exp to carry
Reset Antandra and Wukong, get Mirael to 120 and leave the other 4 at 80
Any idea for this overleveled scrub to beat this?
I know ch. 9 is still early but I've been trying and retrying all day with no luck. Am I just under levelled/underascended? Or maybe bad hero pool?
What should my 5 be
try this:
Merlin
thoran
Mirael
Golus
Arden
if not work try swap arden and merlin
Will try thank you
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i see you got 6 heros normal leveled so Reset the mauler woman and pump up mirael as high as you can
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use this team
Rosa
Wukong
Mirael
Saurus
Tasi
Ok will try thanks
if that rosa team isnt working take saurus out and rosa, then put merlin and thoran in
Like this?
yeh
Tried both ways a few times, not even close. Mirael just keeps dying after 1 ult.
what kills her?
arden roots are abit rng based to get right so it takes a while to win
Vedans bats take her to half health then Isabella ults an finishes her off
Yeah I'll keep trying, but just can't seem to do enough damage quick enough
I get obliterated very quick
take out mirael
Mirael is not good at my progress imo she is one shot
But everyone said to level her up to 120?
mirael is highest level carry on them so taking her out would be bad
and L anyways so not even wukong can get up to her level yet
oh nvm, didn't scroll up
Can someone help me there?
try put tasi where wukong is and wukong maybe behind thoran.
My whole team get clapped under 10 seconds guess I'll just need to wait sad
this is long shot but try:
Daimon
Prince
Ferael
Brutus
cecilia
Are artifacts good I haven't done it yet cuz the maze is annoying
you definetly want blade,call and eye
Would which hero I have Dura's grace on matter? Only artifact I have right now
Cannot deal with saveas
if u do not have blade or eye its carry
Is he weak enough to have Silvina jump him? @pale kettle
Let me test that
Take grez out put daimon in front then put silvina in
Worked out!
Sad cheeses not working xD
Good job 🙂
Thanks for the help
No problem
OK grace was already on mirael so it's not that. Idk what I'm doing wrong here, it's not like my level deficit is that huge..
How do I fix two of these teams?
I'm fine with ainz, eiroon and izhold but the last two are kind of too janky.
Who should i use to get trough world stage 8?
I need some suggestions for this monstrosity. I tried what was on afk helper and his retry for about 90 mins before I gave up. Any further ideas?
Any tips still Cant beat this lvl
Uh thx but i dint have talene or Rowan?
It shows you different lineups that have cleared the stage --> Giving you inspiration to what you can do with your own roster to beat it.
Most of them have either talene or rowan
last 2?
Team 2 and 5 I mean.
They're the most slapdash. GB without nara or athalia has been an issue.
I don t know about those. I was confused by team 4 but I guess this is over my league
you should read pinned guides in questions channel
Team four is actually a little bit off it's just five pull.
but why orthos?
Because he slows and stuns everyone.
Orthos is pretty good
nice, I didn t read his SI until now. Maybe there is future for my eirron XD
Still stuck hard on 9-4. If anyone has any ideas it would be much appreciated
Help
E+ daimon worked for me instead of L+ mirael
OK I'll try him
Link merlin to mirael@oak spruce
Yeah good idea, thank you
u guys have an idea for that one?
Thank you! I was using daimon before I got murael to L+ but I guess I should keep using him while I can even though he's lower ascension. Works much better
daimon is a great carry early game
try ezio talene nara eironn daimon maybe but I don't think you can pass this honestly
i don't think so too xD
I highly recommend reading the pins in #classic-questions
Level cap is likely to be a severe issue
swap brutus and rowan and swap daimon and lucretia and persia instead of eironn
mut you'll most likely have to wait for 3/9 to 9/9 on lucretia for her to be carrying hard in these cheese stages
lemme check i should have a brutus
hello guys i need help ive been playing for 4 days, can i send a pic of my heroes so that someone can help me with the lineup?
https://www.reddit.com/r/whitesushii/comments/gxetug/guide_list/ here is a useful page of guides which for the most are still up to date, you should check this (most importantly the "beginner's guide" so you don't make early mistakes that could waste you months of progress) if you have any more questions feel free to ask
Ok
Stuck again.
check out the guides pinned to #classic-questions, they're more recent
Nvm
try brutus rowan daimon tasi prince
I would also highly recommend reading this in #classic-questions or you're gonna find yourself encountering a whole lot of stages you'll be stuck on.
Im pretty stuck
You need 3/9 furn on Daimon, and Albedo needs +30 SI and 3/9 furn.
Ainz also needs furn
If I'm being honest, Rowan and Albedo should've been your first 2 +30s. Ainz doesn't need it until later
mistakes happen : (
It's ok!
Just focus on those next :)
There are definitely worse choices to make
daimons at 2/3 so is albedo and rowans at +25 so im not too bad off
That's good, keep working at it.
Help
How can I pull Mira when she is in the middle?
you place nara in the mirror position so in this case the Back middle spot is who you want
also move daimon to the bottom to try to survive Estrilda if your Arden is dying before he can CC
suggestions? all the replays here are either alna grezhul, which I don't have or daimon raku. could try to hire raku but idk if 20sig daimon works
nvm it worked
Decent teams i could use for legends setup?
Tried that but everyone is just dying very quickly :(
would u guys rather buy shemira or wukong ?
shermia
Neither
Hey can someone help me build 5 teams for HoE? Im currently using these but I feel like my comps could need some work.
I especially dont feel right about my last composition as its improvised as hell lol
Lab store is arthur for new players
https://eye.s-ul.eu/2AZLMakc does drez need to be 303 for this to work or can i use a 203/209 merc
Read the pins in #classic-questions , don't but neither
How should I make my team?
Hey there
Is there an updated pic of the best lineup for Soren and Wrizz?
Any ideas? Lucius+rowan is so cancerous
