#lineup-help
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suggest me a lineup good for PVE please. TIA
Got it, thank you
could also try:
twins albedo ainz rowan ezizh or arthur over twins
Is this lineup fine?
Nope, gwyn vs atha is poopoo
It's ok. But I would not ascend Estrilda too much for now
Any advice?
Show ur full hero's
Don't make any legendary heroes anymore, I'd suggest
Lyca
bruhtus
Rowan/silas
Daimon
Merlin
So what hero I should borrow so I can get the silver one 𤣠(it's misty valley)
309 ainz
I already try him before, but failed, my other hero not that tanky
309 Lucretia?
I'll try search mercenary :v
Iirc luc 309 fails miserably on that one tho, but you could rng jt
I feel extremely stuck
If anyone needs more info to aid me let me know I really wanna progress
There any salvaging this trainwreck or no?
Somehow these buttholes melt my guys by the 50th second.
Only other guy I have left living is Silas.
If this is a failure, then allow me to go to Questions so I can ask how to better tweak the difficulty, assuming that's the issue. I kinda raged and decided "fork in socket, I'll just kill all my other options".
For reference: this is Hazy Timberland ToG: final team.
its the same lineup as someone on afk helper used, just my silas gets 1 shot every time, idk if its because he and daimon are lower ascension than the afk helper post, any help would be appreciated (can post hero box)
Swap Silias and Oden
he is still being 1 shot, i think by silv before nara hooks her
Yeah, He's going to die no matter what you do
ah, i guess the other dude won by having more stats
Maybe use rowan instead of silas for the bait since his potions still useful after he dies
that worked, thanks much! i think he dodged the first attack and then silv got hooked
Oh nice!
How could I win this battle? Even with PoP, I still get destroyedā¦
@plucky laurel I would be using your Shemira, she is past 160 and she is the best carry you currently have and will have for a decent amount of time, so I would 100% put out Shemira, can swap Talene for her, and place her in Prince of Persiaās position, that should do it, might require a couple tries though
@earnest rivet have you tried. Front line being Lucius - Rowan, then back line being Joker - Ainz - Ferael
@plucky laurel gear her up, she is your best unit going by your roster, and will be until you tier up some other units to ascended
Move@your Belinda gear to Shemira, then you donāt need to use Belinda at all, can just use Shemira
I bet you can understand why I dont use shemira
I can haha
k Ill try but my belinda has full faction matching gear
Didnāt workā¦
Thats my belinda
But considering your roster and current stage in the game, Shemira ult is fantastic and really useful, plus faction bonus is nice but not required
but still my belinda has better use of her gear and much higher level si
Shemira doesnāt need her SI really, itās nice but not needed, just extra damage, just try it out and see what happens
@plucky laurel also give Shemira duras blade
Didnt get it yet
Ah okay
Shemira seems to be very week even with belinda's gear
The moment pop starts jumping around I start getting a lot of damage
but for some reason he and 4 more heroes just suddenly die
Ok I passed this stage
Help anyone
use merlin
Tried him hes insta dead
and higher tier heroes
even my team has higher rating than yours and you are 2 chapters above me
Higher tier heroes is not necessarily better
depends
For example raku or kren will do nothing in that stage
for support heroes it doesnt matter, for tanks and carry it matters alot
E brutus is one of the best tanks early game
7-8 seconds invul at lvl 141, ascension doesnt matter much at high deficit
Fyi I dont have gear on him
so how he insta dies
How do you beat this?
he doesnt insta dies*
ainz is the key to everything
I ran ainz comp like 25 times, those kelthurs just wreck him when they swap places
idk maybe try rowen to 4
Well I tried it again with ainz and it passed first run lmaooo
told u
Rng 4 life
ainz is key to everything
Pop is so good. I use him to cc the ccs, or the carry. Him and Oden together are insane
this stage is so hard with that tasi and tree
Swap eironn with fera, and nara with silas. Put call on fera and daimon and take feras weapon off. Put bruhtus in tasis place
Daimon
Rowan
Fera
Bruhtus
Silas
I have duras call on mireal and she still sucks ass at getting a clutch ult
Lemme see ur whole hero box
i ascended daimon early too, he's was too useful not to, plus you get a hero choice when you beat ch12
Yeah, I'd try
Oden
Saveas
Mirael
Daimon
Silas
Ok to both of you brb
Daimon
Talene
Eironn
Chicken
Pop
Iāve been stuck on 12-4 for a week now. My fragile ego can only take so much. Can someone please help me?
aghh that arden is such a pain in the ass
?
Do you have a bruhtus
I do, but he is only legendary.
Whatr your hero's like, do you have a bruhtus?
i beat it, now im stuck on 24, if you can help with that :P i dont have brutus rn
Alna
Antan
Rowan
Bruhtus
Daimon?
how do you counter a fucking arden who keeps rooting ur team eisjsnsosms
pull him
nara?
@digital skiff is this what u meant
i tried
idk i usually nara arden
Send ur hero box please
Oh sht my bad not saveas,golus and rest is okay
ik but like it doesnt help that my nara is squishy af
Ok
Arden being the usual cunt he is
no brutus btw
Will work fine
I sometimes gear up Nara so she can cc longer.
Sure, send the stage
Nara is in my comp tho, so hard to tell yoy.
arden is such a fucking cunt
I call fucking bs they keep living with 3% Health
King, you NEED that lucky crit
šš
just did :)
just run a macro and do smth else
YOO LETS GOO
u won!?
Uh, hard nut to crack
Yes thank you šš¾
Daimon is all RNG in campaign imo
He indeed is
Lol daimon just got shredded at the beginning anyways mireal was the clutch one
Word.
@worldly apex
This guy beat this with lower and the exact same comp, so try ur best imo
I hate that heroās essence is so hard to get it makes this so slow
broo 21-60 is cancer
You'll need 30000 of it for a single lvl later on
Bruh
I need 16000 dust for a single lvl and it's ass
yeah his daimon and silas are higher asc, ive been kind walled here but maybe i can get it with some good dodge/crit rng or smthing
Damn I have a long road ahead š
What does your comp look like on 21-60?
L and L+ are pretty close so you gotta have that dodge rng tbh
The funny thing is this is the first formation someone gave me that actually helped me beat the level
right, will keep trying then ;_;
Ferael (no weap)
Daimon
Silas
Tasi
Nara
who thought it was a good idea to put 3 cc heavy heroes into one stage
Daimon
Rowan
Eironn
Bruhtus
Ferael
Sounds like your avarage ch30 stage

hmsosjdofjwoaja
Ch30 had like frontline eironn, tasi arden and nemora almost every stage
Haha that sounds broken af
i'm on chapter 32 lol
Me too after i beat this ho
I keep getting timed out in the second stage of 36-32 cam anyone help pls lol
You could see the comps in afk helper @lunar minnow
omg arden is so fucking frustrating
I do use them but keep getting timeout bcz not enough damahe even thos my team is pretty invested I keep doing billions and still losing lol
+30 chicken might solve this weakness
Ill wait for a merc but I dought it lol
If it wasn't for Thoran: Who even needs Daimon?
Ayee antan op
Been stuck on this for the past 3 days I really need help
use arthur
k
who should I replace with him
I think you should stop using mirael
ohh
she is a legendary tier hero and is capped at being L+
Use any of the A tier heroes
i can turn my diamon into L but ppl told me not to bc u should be able to switch her to L+ right away
the problem with that is I've been waiting on 2 copies for the past week
turn her to L when you have enough L tier fodder
k
I'm already stuck on the next stage, saveas is just countering my whole team and two shots everyone
then play other game modes
I can't get past this stage on 35-56 any advices ?
Who should i level up
I'd try pop talene rosa rowen and fawkes but cant promise it works
everyone
level up the highest ascension tier heroes and the rest put in the crystal
someone an idea? - or just retry to death?
@ember belfry dont stop using mirael untill ch 20 ish
wdym she starts being bad after chapter 13
pop cecilia merlin rowen lyca
try might work
Need help
try rowen in 4
Wym i used her till ch17 pre nerfs and enemies were super hard back then
u probably had good gear
but if u have good gear its preferred to place it on a better A tier hero
Ideas?
Glitch gave u terrible advice. plz just continue following the pins in #classic-questions and have a bit of patience.
K thanks
using short term if u are stuck real hard can be useful
my clear
this belongs in #classic-questions . also read the pins there it answers that.
Anyone?
tasi is best avoided when using eironn carry. would recommend mercing this stage - a daimon, izold, luc, etc will work better.
No, read the pins on #classic-questions , you should be using mirael and others till 160
you stop around chs 14-16 actually. By CH20 she may be in your crystal waiting to be fed to someone else but will no longer in your main comp
You shouldn't have 160 at 12, probably because you were using trash or smthn. She should be useful minimum ch 16 imho, you could stretch 18~19 too
if silas is not living to ult, u try something else like lyca or nara. also ur already pushing really well, 2x is about as high as u can go in the early chapters so don't be bothered if ur stuck.
that is not true. u clearly haven't read or don't understand the pins. stop giving bad advice.
Anyone tips been stuck for a couple of hours
It's probably because I didn't play campaign that much then
CH17 actually wasn't nerfed. chasmic nerfs began in CH20 or 21 iirc. thus ur Ch17 experience shud still be similar to today's CH17.
K, I just feel Iām stuck bc Iām capped at 120 for my lineup, I need 2 more fodders at L so that My heroās can go to 140
But yeah if you're lucky, def replace mira after 160 but kool had only only 169 and 120s so he has to stick to it for a lot longer
it depends on the hero like if u have mythic gear on mirael and you have a similar tier shemira then ofc it will be preferred
brutus talene belinda rowan lyca. u chose to go off meta so this will be a difficult push for u.
Patience is the key
Imma try this
not even close. mirael is WAY better than shem before lvl 160.
didn't talk about before 160
Yeah, I made a mini bc of that.
well the push is kinda easy for me i started the day at 16-12
well you can still push mira to 160, which may be the difference u need to clear this with ur current lineup. other than that just keep getting fodders to L+ and you'll be fine. you're doing really well.
I got full M gear and 22+ SI for pop so it got me high very fast
you literally said
similar tier shemira
the only time mira and shem can be the same tier is prior to lvl 160. mirael is far superior at that point. hello??!!?!
I need help ive been stuck on this lvl for 3 days lol
shem and mira can be same level same tier with crystal
I have no idea what to do now. I'm stuck and can't advance to get diamonds to pull more
L+ both level 160, you should pick shem not mira
Don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about please
Was using the smart ascend system a bad play. I feel like I have noone I can ascend now
read the pins in #classic-questions. when u understand those, show ur box.
thx
unfortunately smart ascend is a horrendous misnomer. u shud wait for auto ascend.
What would be a good team, mainly for campaign, but also pvp
Campaign team should be constantly changed when it doesn't work, about pvp i dont really know
I linked my box. How do I get out of this pickle? I've read the pinned messages, but I have nothing to use at the moment to push my carry past 120.
feed both morvus to mirael. that'll make her level cap 140.
Worked after like 40/50 reset 
thanks @summer cedar
i can beat this level any ideas?
Hey anyone got an idea for this one ? I also really wanna use Prince bit tbh idk how
who's doin the most damage?
sorry to revive this but ive spent 2 hours trying and it isnt working, idk how they won with this comp
@frigid linden
swap daimon and safiya. also did u make rowans armor lower than safiya? i put grace on eironn and lyca cause it gives them a chance at dodging and sticking around for a little longer. they will always get 1 shot with eye
Yes i did. Im running grace on diamond eiron and lyca
this ones super tough cause ezizh will stall u and tasi is cancer
if this comp doesnt work u might have to change and use a tasi to try and banish theirs
Still cant do this fight. Someone apparently beat it with that exact formation except M Lyca and SI20 rowan and lvl 200 on the heroes other than Ainz and Daimon. But I cant even get close to winning with this
Hmm ok i was trying that before still wasnt working
Call on silas and daimon
the relic?
@raven hare
You can try and fit prince, or pippa
Not sure how I would with Kelthur and Nara
Kelthur is not that big of deal for pop since heāll move around anyway, pippa is another story
But for pippa you can try and throw daimon, giving him plenty of energy and 5s invincibility, with enough CC afterwards, it could work
Thatās a bit funky butā¦
Brutus
Pop
Rowan
Daimon
Pippa
Not sure if daimon will survive shem tho
Otherwise, you can try
Brutus
Tasi
Pop
Rowan
Daimon
With this comp Daimon casts at least once, very rarely twice. I'm not sure how else to change this for a higher win reroll.
who is tasi banishing there?
The enemy Tasi
i would put brutus in thorans spot and put rowan in front of daimon. wait nvm u dont hae rowan si yet
Is there a go-to best pve team to aim for? I just got back into the game and I am overwhelmed with all the changes etc, dunni where to start with comps etc. Thanks for some guidance!
try lyca 1 rowan 4
try fera 5.
Tried that earlier, Daimon fails to cast ult even once.
It's either Lyca falls and Seirus knocks up Daimon, or Tasi banishes Daimon, or Athalia rips through the backline and kills Daimon.
I uh. Could really use some help. I need to beat this first team without using Ainz or Albedo. I need them for the next fight.
you check afkhelper?
I admittedly donāt know what that is. Sorry. ^^;
Oh, cool!!! Thanks for sending me this, Iād never heard of it!
@summer cedar thats what I kept spamming and it worked eventually. Not sure how that other formation was supposed to work tho
stuck on this now tho
sorry I have no idea what you're referring to if u don't link to the last thing I said. I talk to way too many ppl and help out too much to keep track. this looks winnable w a tasi lyca frontline.
i only have 1 duras call, put it on silas but still no luck
Put it on daimon then
@summer cedar tasi just dies
daimon is still just dying instantly, if i swap him to the top slot then i cant keep silas behind him without letting nara not hook the isabella
Tough nut indeed, can you lvl up more
i might be able to level crystal but id have to wait for the dust and mana
but that wouldnt help daimon being instakilled
My current dream team. They earn their paychecks.
Who should i use?
I require the communities help once more, been stuck here a week
I actually managed to do ant carry at a 100 deficit
How tf do I beat this!? I die so fast
Daimon back, Rowan front
@celest oasis get daimon to 240 instead of shem to 220
pls
Hey guys, I'm struggling with this boss fight, any suggestions?
Heres how my roster looks
i beg of you anyone
Stuck again. sigh
@pale kettle show me your hero box and Iāll see if I can help
my problem is saveas one shotting everything including any tanks i have
But you guys with like 120 level heroes who say youāre āstuckā may just need to wait until you can get some more levels or something. Itās not a game you can just blast right through unless youāre spending tons of money
@pale kettle what stage is this? Please just show the whole screen so I can see power levels & stage info
swap brutus and luci.
Are you following the Tree3 guide pinned in #classic-questions ?
i mean yes hence the legendary silvinia and mirael
Donāt take Daimon to L unless you can take him to L+, and I donāt see you have the copies
So what do I do then I am stuck at lvl 120
my pentagram is unable to go above lvl 120 without ascending anything
i doubt making mirael lvl 160 will help either
same with silvinia
Everyone dies in seconds, advice? Merc are an option
Yes, you might need to wait until you can get enough fodder to ascend people. How long have you been playing, like 3-4 days?
2 days
Right, itās not a game that you can infinitely progress. Itās āAFKā for a reason. It takes time to build up resources
i ascended daimon early, was worth tbh, you can get a copy when you beat ch12 if you still dont have them all for L+
No like ur not understanding i cannot go above lvl 120
making my mirael lvl 160 wont make a difference
Yes, I do understand.
Mirael 160 might well make a difference for one. And for two as Feral said you might just have to wait a bit for hero copies
and even if i wait to progress literally how do i progress to get stuff for pulls if i cant you know beat any level
Youāre not understanding that it takes time to get summons so you can get 5 heroes to L & L+ so you can get your crystal built up
it wont help you to be impatient now to get 1 more chapter of progress and in doing so fuck up future progress
This exactly
so how exactly do i get pulls then if i cant progress
you can get pulls from daily quests, lab, tower, just do side content, and friendship
youll get stuck somewhere anyways and youll be forced to wait. No reason to be impatient now
also on day 8 you'll unlock the regal rewards which give a lot of soul stones when you complete dailies and weeklies, even more if you buy (but its not neccessary)
I tried that, still got clapped
This teams worked for me rn, any help in making them better ( only with the heroes i have, if i dont have a hero i dont have it) one team is daimon with friends, the other dims with talene numisu and the third is just safiya
I'm on chapter 32-6 at the moment, and I'm struggling to decide where I should go for my two teams. I just wrote up the whole question with pictures here (https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/o60shl/megathread_general_afkarena_questions_guide/h2sxxvy/).
If any big brains could help me out, I'd love you.
managed to beat it after like 300 attempts and some switching, on 12-40 now, ty for all your help!
1: can't swap scroll celopogeans
2: the only thing I might swap scroll here is daimon, since that's 6 furn wasted atm, that could go to someone like grez
3: if you're starhunting (keeping people on WL after 8 copies) chill on that until you clean up all those M/L heroes
4: as for the two teams, thoran is an option, though it's easier to run into a counter for him in both of 2 rounds. pump up eironn's SI to 20 and he can kinda handle r2 for a while
go to questions chat and read pinned guide
shemira should have never been so leveled ^
So best to dump those levels into mirael
more like copies. You wasted fodders
legit just run through the guide before u screw urself up even more
Thanks I was following trees guide on my other account.
Please help
Good world 3/4 lineup?
bruh wtf is this and why is it so hard
nvm it turned out to be easier than some of the others
Help plz
Actually stuck here now. This formation worked for someone else on afkhelper and while it seems decent it isnt working for me
Its the best out of all the variations on hero placement with those heroes tho. Except perhaps lyca and ferael. Not sure which is better. Might be same or ferael middle might be a bit better
try this:
Silas
Daimon
Oden
Rowan
Ferael
thats what i used
Everyone dies and then shortly after my diamon, he can last but the rest can't
mm
Nara
Rowan
Oden
Daimon
Silas
maybe that will work? my daimon was 140 since i took him to L early since i knew id build him asap, might be worth considering
many have told me not to convert him to 140 but idk, I've spent the last 5 days on this chapter
its expensive to make something legendary so you only really do it to stuff you have the copies to make L+, so you wouldnt want to just do it to some random unit, i think its fine on the carry, helpful if you're stuck too
Help š
anyone with an idea?
do i have any chance here?
I can do this stage with Rowan but want Rowan for my 3rd
Tried cheesing it with thoran?
Don't think a 000 can
Im stuck, Nemora and Mirael are last standing
Lyca can be good
try lyca instead of nemora
any ideas?
I can defeat the second team with anyone

How can I beat this level? Hereās my box
read pinned infographic in #classic-questions for your answer
ask again in #classic-questions if still confused
just follow a clear from the site
Is there any way I can counter Mereal? She seem to be tough with those 2 healers by her side
Merlin
Rowan
Mirael
Bruhtus
Lyca
Alright Iāll try it out
or check the site.
The lineup shown is just one of many Iām randomly trying. Daimon gets 1-2 ults off before dying, entire team takes damage at the same time and the squishier ones die too fast
try the site
Any suggestions for 10-40?
Sure, what does the enemy comp look like?
@digital skiff
Lyca
Silvina
Rowan
Tasi
Ainz
You should read the pins in #questions because those are some not so well things you've done mate
can someone help me like change people around?
Site?
most recent pin. a crowdsourced community driven site for clears
I actually think I figured it out
n o p e
I come to you in a time of great need. My legendary crusade against evil has come to a halt, I once again require the assistance of my comrades. Please dawn upon me a ray of hope.
I would put Daimon behind Shemira so he has time to build up to his alt.
Athalia shouldn't 1 shot rowan.
Then switch rowan out for brutus
anyone have a lineup for fight 2 of 35-60
Brutus can't be 1 shot.
Thane one shots Rowan
Rose
Daimon
Tasi
Brutus
Rowan Try this and have Rose follow Daimon
Ok I will try
This is making my kidneys hurt
Need some help canāt progress anymore atm
How do I beat this?
note it's the same cheese as -48 if u indeed cheesed that stage
reset shem. push mira to 140.
try tasi 2 rowan 4
try(in this order)
front line- 1.Rowan 2. brutus
backline -3.lucretia 4. eirron 5. PoP/Lyca/Tasi
If i want to start an alt account with gazing for lucretia first, what would be the best carry up untill that point?
what? hes at E
the difference between E and E+ is irrelevant, Izold doesn't do anything notable until +30 3f
Hi
who should i use š§āāļø
what lineup should i use? i have one free resonating crystal slot
Any recommendations
reset the level 112
you already have 5 heroes above 120 no?
Ye
you only want to level 5 heroes in this game the rest are wasted
Ok
And the lineup ???
How should I counter Arden, Tasi and Nemora all at the same time?
Outdated levels, PoP is just new adition to my roster:
Someone make a team for me including silas and wu cong
Oh and donāt add morvus I forgot to cross him out
@smoky parrot if you can atleast mythic daimon I used this comp
Is Isabella ult just nuking your team?
now that im hooking her mirael is killing my team everyone just dies and daimon doesnt rly do anything
What si level is daimon
16, i've already been using BoB on it š
Do you have an oden
Yes
nope
Do you have a Brutus copy
No
odens on my wishlist but no luck as of yet
Nico if your silas is getting one shot might as well replace him with lyca if you have her
Use Arden or mehira then to cc mireal
I can put Brutus in res crystal
Do that, Brutus living for an invulnerability is super helpful
mehira was never getting her ult off when she was in the team
Estrilda Brutus, Arden shemira Oden
I now have lv121 brutus
Hej
Any idea?
Honestly, Arden us an unsung hero of early game, his level 141 makes his root affect three ppl, super useful cc
my crystal is just 123, and @honest storm LMAO thats the exact same team im stuck on
but it's a different chapter
Rowan Brutus, Oden daimon Arden should get her done
i guess i need to get my crystal up to 141
Might have to do it a few times to get Oden ulting on Isabella and Arden cc'ing mireal
They get killed almost immediately
It worked!!!thank youuu
Brutus immune not doing it?
i think im gonna have to go back to pippa cheese
Awesome, glad it worked for ya, when in doubt, use cc
Do you have a daimon? If you don't you want a mireal at l+ get her to 160, her ult will one shot most teams
Brutus as well gets really useful at 141, his immune goes from 4 to 7 seconds
Who do I reset to lv him
for sure, i probably shouldnt be as far as i am but i've been macroing a lot 
Get your fodder heros to l+ and push 4 and that estrilda to 141, estrilda can stay above for now
Are that the right artifacts on my used heroes?
Ok
Oden should use eye, Brutus can use eye or shroud, Arden can use call, Rowan and daimon are fine
Is there anyway we can look at our previous runs?
I can't use a 3rd call @surreal brook
Put Arden on something else, he just wanted the haste. Rowan and daimon more important definitely move the others to eye though
Changed...
But when estrilds rides over my line, all except daimon are dead
Try Oden bottom, swap Lyca for Arden if he's just gonna die, Luca haste is more Important
yo sady the key is daimon bottom and retry i think i just got him to kill grezhul
so now i just retry until he kills him with blood shield 
Grezhul isn't a problem... It's Isabella
I enjoy tryna help you guys out, I really do need to go to bed tho, If you do have any problems you can dm me and I'll get to it in a bit. I do need to go to bed tho guys
yeah but someone dying to blood shield gives daimon permanent pogchamp which means he can prob just run over the team eventually
Night @surreal brook and thanks
Gn bud! ty for all the help
For sure guys, gl with the pushing
https://i.imgur.com/bnKiB4D.png getting close 
@honest storm https://i.imgur.com/zAA5OHS.png
it worked
lyca/alna frontline, mortas top and silas middle
it should work with your team too though your team is better than mine
LMAO fuck https://i.imgur.com/t6cF49D.png
The same team again 4 stages later
What kind of makeshift LB Tower team can I make with this Box
Gwyn carry, Rowan, Rosa, Estrilda. And then you dont have any more on crystal.
Who should I put on crystal for the 5th slot then?
I have 4 RC slots open, so if there's any better option than what's already on do tell.
What team should i use?
Anyone any idea?
Current team is silas, daimon, thoran, isabella and Rowan. Any better options becuase Iām stuck on campaign 9-3. Or should i just try to get more dupes and upgrade to legendary
What comp should i use
https://i.imgur.com/yMztjqu.png https://i.imgur.com/FLn4sLV.png there's an e+ fareal down there somewhere too, any recommendations?
annnny recommendations
BRUH HOW
Prolly just wait until Ur deficit catches up I RMB staying on floor 80 for ages
Nvm made it trough š
ik i could probably do this by waiting but im a very impatient man, so uh..help me out here?
go to questions and read the pins. This is horrible fodders management
of that, I am aware and that's why I'm trying a new account
Swap places with lyca and fera, take feras weapon off
^
Just retry, mine was lv 200 that time, yours is 220
Remove weapon, and if needed put call on fera
what artifact is best for daimon? So far ive been using call on him
Call as well, I put tanky artifact on rowan so he won't steal that 15% energy restoration when running multiple call
What team should I use?
Daimon
rowan
Lyca
Brutus/Skreg
Nara/Ferael
Try this, no guarantee
I'd try to go for Daimon (1), Lyca (2), Oden (3), Rowan (4), Ferael (5). If Daimon dies to quickly to the dwarf, put him in the backline and Rowan in the front as @sleek delta suggested
Oden
Rowan
Fera
Daimon
Lyca
im not that leveled up rn but everyone underestimates mirael, she is really good, i use
Shemira (epic lvl 83)
Wu Kong (epic lvl 81)
Mirael (legendary lvl 80)
Eironn (epic+ lvl 91)
Gwyneth (epic lvl 80)
any suggestions? my stored epics i can bring up are:
Kelthur (epic lvl 80), Lucius (epic lvl 75), Torne (epic lvl 80), Pippa (epic lvl 80), Kren (epic lvl 1), Skreg (epic lvl 1), Safiya (epic lvl 71), Rowan (legendary lvl 81), and then merlin from the dimensional, (this list is not including the boosted epics that used to be rares)
Need some quick tip please
idk why but that formation just isnt working @sleek delta @digital skiff
the closest I get very rarely is that skreg and ferael die but the rest not even close
@tender drum can you post your roster?
I recommend set up your comp like this:
wait you don't have a single copy of eironn?
Sadly not
he is on your wishlist right?
Yea
Need any help if possible
Whatās my best heroās I can use?
Stuck
a lot of stuff in here doesnt get answered, be careful with who you're ascending to L. For that level you can try
Gwyn
-Daimon
Lyca
-Rosaline
Tasi
not sure if it will work tho
Thank Iāll try it out and itās fine itās a old game
It didnāt work oh well thanks for trying
spam retries, but yeah i dont remember what i used
Itās fine but Iāll try that tho canāt be too bad to level a little bit either
yeah try lvling to cap
those are some good pulls for ch8, you should try daimon where the twins are
@pale kettle You should try to put twins top left and daimion bottom right
Ezizh and Rosa are making me depressed
This Mirael destroys me. Any suggestions?
Eironn disappers after pulling or survives enough to CC ?
wow not even 2x, you could try brutus rowan frontline daimon eerion ferael backline and it should be pretty easy
Help
I know i'm late, but what exactly are you talking about? š
Pls help someone
stop making so many Legendary heros and read pins in #classic-questions
Thanks it worked!
for that stage drop belinda for brutus and no point in rushing to finish the chapter if your going to set yourself back a lot by making so many L heros @hollow gull
grats!
your going to have to try more than once or twice
Ok
Still nope
switch arden and oden positions
Will try
Died 20 seconds later will try agin
Instant death
Ded chat here
keep more magers and archers, your team is too focused to warrior
oh nvm u alr got it fixed
Estrilda should be in front of Khasos to stop his ult or something. Golus will destroy her
I already won but thx
Yikes my b for an even later reply
The mistakes are,1) an L shem when you couldn't take her to L+ and she sucks
2) garissoning so early, ainz is gahbage at L
3) m rowan so early
4) no fodder hero's to get your lvl cap up so you'll be called at 120 for a hot breeze
Oden
Bruhtus
Shemira
Estrilda
Arden
PLEASE DONT MAKE ANY MORE LEGENDARY HEROES
Ok got it
Oh you won, im kinda blind huh

I used brutus estrilda oden arden shemira
mirror your comp (flip everyone)
yep, grats!
stuck 4 stages later again
lmao
How can i beat this stage (im saving brutus for something else)
Any ideas?
Hey what is PoP Raku lineup
Probably raku rowan mehira Brutus/lyca pop
Need help... I'm almost done with ch17 š¢
Brutus Golus Arden Daimon Oden
31-57 enemies are
Mireal
Rowan
Rosaline
Grez
Fareal
I'm having a hard time killing the Grez since mu only Wylders are Saurius (who has bad armor RN) and Lyca
Diemensional key on the Prince/Oden link
No but thanks for the try
nvm rng victory
What does wilders have to deal with this?
Any lineup suggestions for pvp that can optimize my options?
I keep losing to people lover levels and power than me haha
Your only carry is Daimon, and you have no good supports
Rowan isn't going to be doing much until M, or until T2 gear
Neither still Silias or Rosa
Wylders deal more dmg to Graveborns IE the Grezul which was giving me problems would die faster my carry was Graveborn so he dropped the lightbearers pretty quickly but the Grez kept just killing everyone, I eventually won with just good RNG on Prince/Oden targeting and whatnot to stunlock the enemy to death
Greazul* (I think?)
generally faction advantages are simply not a consideration
obv but I firgured that Saurius was one of my better Grez answers anyways
I was grasping at straws after many losses =P
faction bonus can be massive tho
That's not really enough to justify using a specific hero 99% of the time
My issue was the Grez kept dominating in 1 v4 and 2 v 4 and just cleaning me so I was just trying to get SOMETHING I thought maybe putting Saurius in front of him Saurius would just kill him then Oden can deal with the rest but it didn't work, whatever I won with RNG stun s
any advice on this stage?
@ebon hazel whatāre some food supports early game? At the hero level 130 mark rn
Good*
Arden, Rosa (not really for pvp), Fareal, Ulmus to an extent
Ahh yea I donāt have any of thoseš could you recommend a formation off the ones I have?
This is what I slapped together earlier seems to work a bit better
Lucius Talene Daimon Fareal Arden
Thanks!
Just so you know, Lucius and Izold are trash tanks, so replace them when you get someone better
Izold is great early game tho I heard? Right with daimon
Never really worked well for me until he became a carry
Ahh alright thanks for letting me know so I donāt build him up by mistake haha
Pretty new to game, first time getting past chapter 5 lmao
You should still build Izold once you get 8 copies of him, he becomes an amazing carry after he's A tier
Alright Iāll keep it in mind
Izold is remarkably shit before 303, as opposed to daimon who can start hypercarrying as soon as he unlocks his SI
If you had a Luc you shouldāve lucād it
Stuck on 6-24
Level your daimon to max
Been stuck for a few days
Been stuck for 2 days, help plox. I have an open slot on the crystal as well
My main issue is the angelo outhealing my damage
Do I even have a chance here?
ya
Level daimon to max and split remaining exp to other heroes?
I have a sinking feeling about that
P much, daimon is a monster
You want a carry thats overlevelled by 20-30 this early
Me?
get your damion to level 120
Daimon is op ty
damion at Mythic wih SI 20+ is carry just OP
Canāt i need another one to get him to elite+ he is Max lvl atm
i need 2 more for that lmaooo
try getting mireal to L+ or L and use her as carry
Ok
level 20/40 above team
6-35
wokong level 100 frontline and keep him above 20 levels more than your team
you should check the pinned beginners guide in #classic-questions
Oooooh guides
Hi whatās the best line up I can use with my current heroās?
Ima not sure whoās the best or worst since ima still pretty new but ima willing to learn
This is the current set up
3 for damage rest are tanks
Any recommendations
Got new ppl and my comp is currently not great I would like advice from someone whose better, pls ping if you respond and also Iām ch8 level 45 if that helps you know kinda where I am progression wise
get shemira up right away
the three in your top middle are straight up food for better characters
and you should try and get a tank to take the damage for the others
@obsidian blaze
are you sure about mirael being food
shes really good actually, one of my carries
@obsidian blaze she is food BUT you use her until all your team hits lvl 160
she is good for now but she only can be leveled up to a certain rank
once you start to get all your chacters to legendary plus she is one of the ones you should use for food
Once you get another copy of shemira, you can make her L+ and use her as food for a better GB
Maybe 3rd timeās the charm lul, pls help
@maiden marsh youāve helped before, maybe you have a clue lul
whats GB stand for
Graveborn
o ok
Try swapping mirael for another support like oden/tasi since daimon is your carry now
Iāll try it
do you have a suggestion for a full team based off of the screenshot above
@maiden marsh everything dies far too quick. I have the xp and gold for leveling my other units but I have nowhere near enough dust to push them all past 120
If you have a brutus or a nara, you can use them to counter isa
Eironn back mid can do it too
What to do?
Cant even push at 34 lv deficit fml
Any tips? Tower of light 390
Idk but try est instead of lucius she can knock one back so gwyneth can hit a 4 man stun maybe
Hard to do. She gets tasi locked just in time to come out and get blown up by solise
Ah and your gwyn doesnt have 3/9 too
Every video Iāve found has the fawkes grab solise. He grabs khaz for me
Iām stumped. Does anyone see a good lineup option?
uhh, why are you building what you're building, and what are you trying to fight, lol. usually i fight graveborns with graveborns with some wilder CC mixed in, guess you daimon tasi is still worth a shot.
That is what Iām trying to fight. Itās a level. My line up is blank. @fickle loom
...well, i can't give you specific advice because you refuse to explain what kind of stage it is, and i already gave you heroes to start with you do what you want i guess.
Itās the misty valley level @fickle loom
well mercs free endlessly in MV, so i'll get a strong daimon merc and go something like rowan thoran daimon rowan tasi. or you can use your own daimon and drop thoran for a powerful ferael merc.
Just merc luc for mv
Help here? No rowan daimon lyca fearel tasi. I could also use a merc if needed
Hey guys. I may need a little help there. Stuck a 10-17. Mostly using daimon as carry
Does anyone have suggestions?
@pale kettle Brutus instead of talene?
I don't have Brutus
At all? Not even E?
It's enough an elite,, but if you don't have one, then try to get one for future
Some ppls foddered Brutus badly 
Do you plan on swap scrolling this Shemira, by the way?
Yeah
Eironn would be a good fit.
Yeah I'm one of them
@pale kettle try Daimon frontline, and you put Tasi in the back instead of Talene. Perhaps he can tank Athalia
Ok
I've used Daimon frontline a lot until chap 30.
Perhaps even Shemira can frontline actually. Try both, swap frontline and see what works the best
Daimon wasn't able to tank the hits without enough healing and Rowan couldn't do it
Ok
Try both frontline slots and give it a couple of tries
Happens, you don't have Brutus, nor ferael nor rosaline. I mean playing with shem without rosaline it's like wasting your time
Hi whatās the best line up I can use here?
These are the main characters I use
(Ima not stuck I just donāt know whoās better than who and whatās the best team I can make here with my current recourses)
Mh, for now try rowan skreg front, rosaline Gwyneth and raku or daimon. If daimon, he can be back of rowan
Set Rosa to follow gwyn
@brave oriole btw I also have a new hero rowan
Does this look good? I tested it and it didnāt fair too well
No. Skreg rowan front, rosaline gwyn daimon or raku
do u have nara?
@maiden vapor no probably
do u still have the chest from assembly of heroes?
@brave oriole thanks it worked
Probably also a no
And yea I have nuru
I need some help
reset the levels on your tasi and talene and level fodder instead
Talene is bad ? Find her really helpful but gonna try
Hi. I do not understand what do you mean by level fodder
She s not bad but she s E so she can t be leveled up anymore. You need to put her in crystal so she gets more levels
You should read pinned guides in question channel. Fodder heroes are rare heroes like mirael. She s good carry until 160 level and after that she can't be leveled anymore so she s used as food for ascended heroes
as Hellrabbit says, read the guide for how you should be levelling your units, and avoid unnecessarily ascending to L
Ok. Thanks guys
This is my Setup, i have an Elijah and Lailah i wanna put in there, Who do i replace
I have ferael and I think Rosaline
any helpers in the chat 
@worldly apex reset oden to 140, then make everyone left, 140,and push daimon to 180
sounds solid will do
should i change anything about the formation/hero selection
be careful with not ascending too many heroes to legendary without the copies to make them L+, what carry have you been using so far?
I progressed and now have been at this for hours. Idk if my artis are an issue here but ive gotten close a few times with this setup
Any suggestions?
Stop making so many legendary heroes
Tower of light 390. Any tips?
Brutus rowan tasi ainz nara or
Lyca rowan tasi/talene/safiya eiron nara
what i can do?
Um stuck on this for one fkin week can please someone help me?
6-35
use daimon as your carry
why is shemira frontlining against a brutus lol
Anyone have any advice for this level?
Any level with fawkes in it is hard because this team super heavily relies on gwyneth and the coffin takes the whole team apart
I tried using eironn to stun fawkes so his coffin doesnt go off but it doesnt seem to reach
nevermind she just dodged the coffin and the level instantly won
Brutus massacres like half of my team, Silvina kills before Mireal can get her aoe off
try daimon frontline and lyca in the back somewhere
Any help would be appreciated
Hi, does Eziz have any counter??
Do i upgrade daimon?
Here we go again 
Hey, I'm having trouble with this lineup, any suggestions? Posting roster next.
very new to this game. which heroes should i give priority to and what should my lineup look like?
For some reason discord is blocking my attempts to post my roster
There's a guide to follow
head over to #classic-questions and copy the wishlist pinned there
alright thank you
then massively overlevel wukong
Jeez my roster pic is literally being filtered by the bot lol
i just donāt know which heroes are good and worth focusing
6-35
Can I win ?
Have you used the hero that you are borrowing yet? He is really good. Put him in the center and it will pull her in to him.
My lineup and heroes @stiff bane
you can probably pass that, just make sure to level up your daimon as high as u can, maybe put him in the back row
So max daimon and split remaining exp?
rowan and lyca front row and daimon rosaline athalia backrow. you should work on making an arden as a support hes great on low levels
Ok
6-35
man, i just want this nightmare to be over.. what do i do here
your nightmare would be over long time ago if you read guides that are pinned in question channel. Your team should have 1 carry, 1-2 tanks and 2-3 supports. I really don t know who is supposed to be carry in your team and who is tank
And I don t know who would I suggest as carry from what you have atm
Supposed to beat this with 4~ maulers, this is who I also have
Oh I finally got it, althalia stunning Gwyneth made it marginally better
rowan brutus grez tasi daimon.
in general i think my team is strong just a bit underleveled (5-28). but what would you guys personally change?
6-36
I have, I also forgot where to go to borrow more heroes
I committed to this team a while ago but the enemy team now has hard counters, and Iām trying to get a wilder and graveborn team now pls dm I will send you all my characters
any helpers in the chat 
Help plz
How do I do this... The other stages have rowans in 4
This seems unfair. How are you supposed to do this?
Any ideas?
Good matches for a Saveas 160 for campaign 12+?
So like does anyone know a good formation for these guys
I donāt know any good line ups
Try:
Rosaline
Rowan
Luca
Daimon
Arden
Let me know if it works
6-36
š¢
hey guys what is the best line up for soren?
Any helpers in the chat, or should i just level š
any ideas?
anyone got a suggested comp for prince
I pair him w Raku and it works pretty well
can anyone help me with this? what units should i focus on leveling? Ibeen trying different comps but its not working :((
help please
Hard stuck on 13-24 any tips to change up my comp?
Replace ros and prince with tasi and lyca to banish one of their damage dealers?
Now that I got a good enough comp for every faction (made it to tower 200 each yesterday) should i switch my focus to heroes that will raise my points in TR and guild bosses? Many of my TR heroes are at E+
Hello people of this afk arena server I'm fairly new and would like to know who to use
And if possible can you tell what order they should go in because I'm bad at that
@pastel heron can you help me
Anyone know how to cheese this?
Thane always ends up behind thoran and doesn't get hit I think
Could also be his I frames idk
Best team to beat this please? Thank u
Try Saurus , lyca , khazard ,mehira ,althalia (that is 1-5 slots positioning will kind of matter), i will need to see your actual heros since all i see is those , but that might work
Thank you
Can someone give me good formation for 22-1?
Make nara pull isabella. put rowan frontline next to brutus. Get lyca in there instead of thoran(maybe ferael instead if that doesnāt seem to be doing it)
still stuck here, anyone able to help?
Try daimon on the frontline in front of that mauler dude replacing rowan. Drop rowan and add tasi in the remaining spot
Or possibly put rowan where oden is and tasi behind brutus
like that?
Yeah. Try that a couple times and let me know what happens. Also which artifacts do you have on them?
Daimon has call, havent got any upgraded artifacts so i cant do mulit equips
Thats ok. Daimon probably needs it most. Maybe put grace on tasi
okay, i'll give it a shot ty for the help
Np. If that doesnāt work just play around with daimon on frontline and swapping other people around. Nara has to pull that mirael so Dont move that.
I'll keep retrying for a bit then try diff stuff
worked with thoran instead of brutus. thanks š
i won, thanks for the help my guy
How do I do this stage
And if ur wondering why my rowan is at L dw my hero choice pack resets in 2 days and I'll be able to get him to M
I just wanna beat chapter 31
Please help im super stuck
Someone help?
Try swapping prince and ainz
And use arthur instead of ferael, put him at front instead of rowan
Everyone still got nuked š¦
Hm, are you able to show me the after battle statistics?
Hm, maybe try replacing ainz if he doesnt get the chance to ult
I swapped him for Eiron but still not getting it
I've been stuck here for a week
for start brutus will stop kaz dodge so he would be better top
have you tried with mercs?
i dont have them available, but i tried with merlin
i swapped out so many things, i dont even know how to continue here. Sooooooooooo gated by Hero's Essence....
is there any chance that you could get 4th copy of rowan soon and boost his SI?
once i have enough fodder for making Thoran A, then unlocking Hero Choice, getting 2 more Daimon copies and then working on Rowan, then yes.
Thoran is my first hero thats able to A, thats why i picked him over others
Daimon behind Brutus, yes.
Thoran will get instagibbed, aggro resets, dead Daimon.
But Im afraid you will need a merc.
Either a stacked Ainz or Ferael for anti- heal.
Daimon sucks against heavy sustain really bad.
at this point I d rather that you have M rowan then A daymon...
and revoemag explained it pretty well
had that discussion with a lot of people, most told me to A Daimon, because i barely miss any copies
i have a fereal thats ok, he just doesnt live long enough
He needs his SI for anti-heal
look on the bright side. You ll get mercs tomorow
tomorrow i also get fodder š 42 faction scrolls
Ferael is an option.
Or a big Ainz like the one you had.
He should wipe them out fast enough.
if he lives that long
my biggest problem is the deficit i feel like, but i am doing everything to get dust, it just comes by so slowly
15 sec.
Should be ok.
everyone dies within i would say 8 most of the time, if not for merlin
you are still very early in game. You will wait for at least 2 months till you reach 240 level
chap 21 is still considered early?
Doesnt matter.
You are where you are :)
Enjoy the game and call it ultra late game if it helps your motivation.
Ultimately it changes nothing.
I d guess you are playing between 1-2 months but you are at good deficit
welp i'm at 12000k to 36000k also struggel
are you using Mirael as your carry?
12k of what?
teampower
you mean million?
i did 23 lab runs and i did them everytime they're up, so i guess 46-50 days now yep
forgot the 0 hahaha xD
And yes as it is its kinda brutal.
Your team is GB heavy.
They are all Wilders so faction advantage.
Get Ainz for your merc.
If you get a Ferael his ATK will be lower than your Daimon's.
Daimon will get banished and you'll lose anyway.
Im sure Ainz will work better.
lol yea, I m at 10 vs 38 and I don t find it extremly hard. I m just lazy to push XD
ah thats how banish works, better gear gets Banished?
Highest ATK
Ah nice xD what team do u use?
would a 309 luc work?
Yeah but thats an extreme solution lol
daimon
I have 4 accounts and they are all almost similar. ainz team, 5 pull with lucretia and daymon with filling supports
