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It is a bit weird granted.
I don't see 5 pull working in both fights, because of your box and the enemy comps
If eironn doesn't work swap lyca and tasi, it might allow tasi to get her ult earlier
Please tell me it is promising at least ahah
Okay swap lyca and tasi on 2nd thought
Yes, it's better with the swap. But for now very far from a win, it barely damages 10% of their lifepoint to enemies x)
Eironn never ults, he dies before
Backup plan is gwyn team, but honestly I am not feeling it lol.
You can try
Rosa
Rowan
Alna
Arthur
Gwyn
Well, first fight is not going well either
My Gwyn is terrible, she does not have +20 so she does not have damages, sadly. x)
can i reset my errifon to make anything on my team better?
Yeah it is hard to make two teams currently. Too much ressources dispersed...
It is
Did you try your Ainz?
That's why until now I've always cheesed a stage, and Daimon the other. Perhaps shall I just merc Izold and clean up one like that
It's a merc in my box, actually. I do not have him.
Read pins in #classic-questions , your wukong is still relevant
i made my wukong ot lv 1 to lv my mireri and hogan
Ah. Personally I don't really know what to change in your thoran cheese team. The issue is about damage visibly... which is something I can't help you with... sorry
I actually passed it yesterday with 5pull+Thoran
Arden might be better than eironn aswell
But it just takes Eironn away, unfortunately
Just passed it again
Which hero shd be my dpa
Wukong
So i shd make him around 20 lvs above eberyone else?
I thought wukong was bad after lv 10
Daimon
Tasi
Brutus
Rowan
Ferael
What about this lineup with eye on ferael and chalice/call on rowan for second fight?
He is bad after level 100
Yes, I think it was the best so far
So what should my main team rn look like, assuming i have a lv 100+ average am in ch 7 if it matters
I can just tryhard it with RNG x)
It's honestly promising, I see it could be 200 tries easily, but it has potential
They just heal so fckg much, Niru+Numisu+Tasi is awful
That's why ferael's survival is so important, you need tasi rowan ferael ult chain to kick off
Mirael rowan hogan arden thoran, maybe
After Si 30 for rowan, daimon and thoran, who should I do? I was thinking about raku/eironn
somone told me to Reset Eironn, Lucius rohan and to level Arden, Niru and Ankhira. i just reseted my rohan from 101
I am not sure it's enough. 20 seconds of fight I still maintain Daimon/Tasi/Fera alive usually, but the opponent healing is pretty strong
Passed 30 seconds, everyone dies quite fast afterwards. I think the main issue is that even after 30 seconds of fight, I'm not able to kill any ennemies...
which heros would i lv to pair up with mirel i just reseted some lv 100 heros
Make her L+ dammit
This is my lineup for 8-40 and I’m stuck who should I replace or who should switch places with who
30s is some serious stacking for daimon... idk why he can't get it done
Any advice on this stage
Any advice?
Hey guys. I'm a new player and I got stuck on campaign. Any suggestion for team comp?
Ignore the trial ones ofc.
Hello @gusty flare,
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Good early game Eironn carry team?
Wu Kong carry, Izold tank, Silas behind Izold, idk after that @gusty flare
@raven hare It worked! 🙂
@brittle solstice Thanks for the suggestion. I tried making saveas/shamira work but looks like I'm missing something.
Maybe I don't have proper supports and frontline
@gusty flare I think you should front line shemira and use Silas as support
As long as shemira doesn't get perma cc or 1 shot she'll carry hard through campaign
Shemira doesn't carry hard at all, I'd just stick to following the pinned guides in #classic-questions @gusty flare
Seriously? The comp with daimon??
Great!
Congrats :))
Still no luck, any other suggestions? I could maybe get a merc
@split oar put Brutus down
i don't like Silas in there...replace him with Tasi? swap Rowan Call with Ferael Shroud position?
who does enemy Rosa follow?
Estrilda I guess
hendrick
Well, it should work better with Brutus down, rowan with chalice up front and daimon somewhere close to rowan
Anyway, rowan Brutus should be front, where, you test yourself
And lyca atm better than Fera on this stage, for the haste
Or both and no Silas
if rowan is up and brutus down rowan gets 1 shotted
And down he get rooted by ulmus?
yep but doesnt get 1 shot
That's good. Do you mind to share your artifacts?
brutus artifact wont change shit since he shields up instantly and die, ferae and rowan makes em stay alive more
yhea will wait for next week merc
Rowan Tasi Daimon Call, Ferael Eye. do you have enough Call slots to do that?
even worse xd
does your Rowan have T2 Weap/Boots?
pretty hard to tell what's going on in the fight from here, including the multiple retries
I'm stuck on the last fight of 34-60
Who else do you have you could use
lemme take a look
I think posting my whole hero box would'nt be very useful cuz most of them were used (or linked to a used one) in previous fights of the stage
You don't need more than 5 teams right?
Can you just scroll down to see who else is available?
I assume you've tried rng a billion times before doing it, because saurus and izold requires alot of rng to win, cause they just need to go off
so im redoing 1st and 2d fights XD
RIP. before you redo those 2 fights, check out the website with people's clears
I'm not sure how effective thoran is without using his cheese
yeah, tried to RNG it approx 40 times on many different comps and orders
Which teams are used endgame and what are their cores
What is the problem? Like who on that team is going off
just using him to stall with barricade 😂
so he can shield izold if possible
Are you able to get one kill on the enemies or no
Cause I don't use izold, but I know he has to get his momentum going by getting a kill
but already used merc on campaign this week
What other heros do you have to better support izold?
That are available for that fight
nah, he has to get his momentum going by tanking hits for his 3/9 furn buff while surviving
well I used all my best ones for fights 1 and 2
izold is usually my carry for 3rd comp
untill I can make a proper thoran cheese comp XD
Is there any one you can skimp in your first two lineups
aight im done
well
maybe I could skip on rosa, and replace her with some random useless hero
Which heros are available for you for stage 3
Anyone? Really stuck and I don't seem to have a chance no matter how many times I try
those on the screenshot,
then, a quite invested safya,
and then uninvested Vurk, Skreg, Nimisu, shemira, Solisse, Queen, Joker, Bellinda, Estrilda, Thane, and a silas but silas is only M
Have you tried swapping thoran with brutus
Who in the enemy team is the main problem
I'd say Tidus and Safya
I hadn't tried thoran with the lyca in, seems slightly better than brutus. Will retry for a bit
Does izold get to the point where he can't be controlled or does he die before that
Any ideas?
he dies before, I've even tried swapping chaos bringer for the pauldron to save him
Put daimon instead of Rosa, Oden up top daimon middle
Okay ill try
Does saurus insta die?
yeah almost, I don't think Saurus is a good idea after all XD
If he gets cc'ed he doesn't do much, with a tidus matched against him I would swap him for sure
I could use a dimensional key to make BRutus avalible for last fight, but it would make shemira locked btw
Do you have an alna
nah
Even just an epic Alna is good for the invincible
been stuck in sg for ages, never land on a hero, imma start sinking my diamonds into it
The celestial tower should help you with sg cards
oooh, I have an E+ Alna
but she's not in the res crystal, I could put her in
Isn't working lol
Put her in the crystal, and you might want to use shemira for a dim, I don't think she's used at all for endgame other than a dim ascended person, and nemora TR
Maybe try frontlining Rowan, and Lucius behind
Ok
she's linked to ainz, but dim key'd for a TR comp (I don't even use that TR comp anymore)
If shemira is your main carry you can just Rosa shemira, but don't do that for too long
Ok
I should move her dim key to another XD
How do i beat this? vedan just ultimates and fucks my gwyn
Her being on ainz without a key is fine
yeah XD
You'll never use ainz for nemora TR
Nothing is working
See if you can skimp on a hero in the first two ad well
yeah I think I can pass the first two while keeping rosa avalible for 3rd
to make rosa simp for izold XD
What do you guys think here?
maybe gwyn facing bellinda? 🤔
but you probs tried that already
show the enemy side too bruh XD
hmmm
use nara to pull silvina
you mean to pull isabella
silviana is nowhere to be seen in his SS XD
Sadly I did, Fawkes yoinks her and satrana insta kills when they pop out
yes, I always confuse the 2 ahahahha
that's an oof
but yeah @warm nebula try wjat sahrk said with nara
Do you have albedo?
No sadly
Can you garrison her?
Yeah
She makes ainz and other dims strong
albedo's SI is the best thing in the game lol
Her si buffs them so much, do you have Arthur
No im 1 away from getting arthur
Do you have a 5 pull comp
Whats a 5 pull comp?
If not do the Rowan tasi lyca erionn ferael comp
5 pull is skriath with his 3 furn buff and a strong erionn
No I dont have that but ill try the other option
That did absolutely nothing
Did someone say strong Eironn?
sorry, couldn't resist XD
Well if she reaches her ult it's gg, nara is useful to delay that but you might be dying earlier to the dark mages. Maybe thoran instead of izold? should be a bit tankier
That's what mine looks like, but he had shroud and he's still green
I won the skin from one of the early AbEx XD
Nice, I took a break awhile back
I probably just need to get more powerful
that always works lol
sometimes not the only solution though, sometimes you can push further than you think
just by trying RNG over and over sometimes lol 😂
@surreal brook
okay, I changed my dimensional key to free Brutus, I put alna in the res crystal and I made it back to stage 3 managing to keep rosa
now I can make it further than I've ever been, and izold can start to go crazy
but Safyia always can land an ult on him and kill him in time :/
😞 imagine having hero’s at level 400
mines are only 348 '-'
Still, my highest is 64
XD
You should be proud
😭 bro I’m in chapter 5
it just takes time dw you'll get there
https://imgur.com/a/qHHWIPH
Can somebody help me with improving my pvp comps?
Imgur link includes my 1v1 comp, 3v3 comp and my heroes
Hopefully
well I made it and im all F2P XD
im running the same as you lol
except my arthur is under albedo
same with 3v3?
well, depends on what you got
you have to click the link to see all images
yeah I know but rn im stuck at stage 34-60 3rd fight
Is there any way to cc her
if I go to the arena, I won't be able to resume my fight
lemme check
oh that's what you mean
oooh, maybe a mythic fawkes for the coffin, but idk if he'd target safyia, or if he'll stay alive long enough to prevent her from killing izold
lemme try
oof, nah doesn't work he seems to be targetting tidus, and dies instantly anyway
you can stun safiya with nara or athalia
that also disrupts her using the pyramid which makes the enemy team deal less damage
mines are only E+ and L :/
you can still try. i used them just to early disrupt safiya. might not always work but can safe you sometimes
yeah nara seems to be helping
also with nara safiya will be inside your team
I know how it works dw
the nara vs safyia deal, no need to explain XD
well even if I get rid of the zone
she still lives long enough to ult :/
welp, I'll leave it at that for today
do your friends comp help you?
been trying that fight for an hour
This tower sucks
it does suck indeed lmao
Just wait till you get the baden Isabella stages
LB got no real carry XD
If Isabella gets an ult off your entire team dies
replace the word Isabella by the word Safyia and you got my current predicament lol
yeah I tried both nara and Athalia likeRabiga7or suggested
it's good to get rid of her zone
but she lives long enough to ult anyway
Can you use numisu to make her ult one of his totems instead of izold
Is brutus still alive
well he dies a few secconds before
Cause if he takes the ult while spinning he lives
but even if he was still alive
he'd be to close to Izold, the AOE would rubb off on him
well I tried alot with RNG
but I could try again XD
with the modifications I did maybe now it could work
Try it
Advice for this floor?
I have come to hate Nara with a passion XD.
nara's hot tho
5pull without luc, thoran flora, daimon raku, grez Alna, izold
Do these teams work or should I invest in ainz to replace one of the above
I have Rowan matched with Nara typically, And have Rosa Frontline in his place
Nara one combos Rowan. 😦
Any advice
read the pins in #classic-questions
oh man, I came so close T.T
Any suggestions how to tweak to get past this without resorting to my borrowed characters?
Can someone help me beat 9-20
I have tried so many different combinations but the best I can do is kill 2-3 of them
You guys think I should change anything?
Try Talene in the top front, Daimon behind Talene, and Rowan in the middle back
Why does everyone have a talene except me sikwsodkwkwodkmemww
Daimon and izold together is not a good idea
Mk so should I get another tank
Dont consider daimon as tank. He do well on backline
He's best carry , He scales carzy . Use E brutus for tank. I meant daimon
Don’t got Brutus, I got a Skreg and Thoran
I don’t even have Brutus on my wishlist LOL
You will get free brutus on completing some chapter . But getting e copy of brutus works a lot
When?
Iirc chap 17
what should my team be?
I’m on chapter 8 bro.
Use daimon as carry for easy game , add lyca . If you are below chap 8 , monkey will carry you
WHY DOES EVERYONE HAVE A CELEPOGEAN AT EARLY GAME EXCEPT ME
You have good heros. Wait and see which hero you gonna get
Talene athalia works on your chap at E . Having other celeopogeans wont help you for now in campaign
Which comp should i use?
I'm chapter 23 - 20
Use daimon rowan si30, tasi as main . Try adding brutus , saurus and rosa depends on need . One comp wont fit most games imo
Brutus-rowan
Tasi-daimon-lyca (switch for ferael when he gets to 220)
is this doomed?
vedan taint, izold/nara linked
Idk if thoran cheese can kill zolrath
I’ve tired most combos of my strongest hero’s lvl 200, etc. Can’t get past this
Any suggestions how to get past this one?
Ngl bro that's hella impressive with the almost -70 level difference that you're doing so well jesus
Try Rowan tasi front, daimon talane lyca back
If you're using ainz as your carry, you really should also be using albedo, her signature item heavily buffs all dimensional heros in the lineup
any idea on what to do here?
you shouldn't be using izold nor daimon, use wukong before lvl100 and mirael after
well
he does way more than izold at least. Izold before si or furniture does absolutely nothing
I’ll swap out Izold then
can you get 1 hero past lvl100? If so do that on mirael
Is there a better way i can change my formation in ordee to beat this level?
Shemira in front of Ros for sure if you're having Ros follow Shemira. Although at Elite 100 Shemira is useless
Shemira is god tier like 160 to 200, then she becomes really bad
she's still really bad in that range, pretty much any other M hypercarry dramatically outperforms her
I would use Desira for the heals but that’s just me
alright ill try those
I m back to the game after almost a year not playing.
I need help with my formation, anyone can help ?
(I ve got an old Shemira build)
who would i swap out for desira
Sorry, got pulled off chat. Daimon is my carry currently, but she’s next on my garrison plan once I can do two at once.
Lineup pls
put wukong on your crystal
ok
level him to 100, he will 1v5 till then
Ok ty
@surreal brook aaaay I did it
still sstuck, using thoran instead of brutus and it's a bit better
Let's goooo, what team did you use?
Eironn comp for 1st fight, and I managed to take down 2nd fight with the izold comp
saving Ainz comp for last
not many, I just had to figure out how to stall them and tank enough
used a barricade Brutus in front of athalia and a barricade thoran
Please help me to fix this setup
Can anybody help me please? (PLEASE.)
Level Wu Kong and Thane, not Ira and Niru.
I don't have Tasi.
can i soul fusion a trial char prince of persia and lose the char?
i mean get the hero back after trial is done
5* call is mandatory here right?
there's a clear on afkhelper with this exact comp but i'm assuming he has 5* call or something
please help I have no clue what to use
Lyca with drape or chalice instead of Brutus. I’m assuming you don’t have shroud yet
What do you have left? There’s so many variables that’s not a certain answer
If you have Brutus that would help. You need to tank saveas’s shots so that’s a bad spot for daimon
batteries: rowan/ezizh/lyca
positioning: kelthur/nara/eironn/skriath
utility: flora/lorsan
i pretty much have all the thoran cheese tools available except 5* call and brutus for barricade
I would try skriath instead of Nara, he’ll probably stun Shem for longer and that’s ur main issue. Looked at my records and For this specific fight I used ainz and izold comp on the accounts I did it on
Brutus might also help to keep Shem from killing early for her ult, Even if he’s not +20 or 3/9
Any advice?
Anything I can do here or am I done for a few days?
saveas out for mirael, place her in the middle, use nara to pull isabella
Any advice for this
my first ascended was daimon, the only other hero i have gotten 8 copies of yet is izod, is it foolish to ascend him too?
Who should I put in the resonating crystal and what should my lineup be
Try wokong front line with thoran and make wukong over leveled from your team
Could I do better?
we have almost identical stuff except you have elite+ stuff I don't, and I'm at 10-17 so I imagine you could go further for sure, and my other heroes are only 115 so far (140 Mirael)
Just all up to rng then
sometimes yes, but usually for me it's just re-arranging stuff so Mirael lives to ult 😄
i just started the game 3 days ago and i dont what team should i run can someone help me
Try this team out I just got to 10-17
Try Lucian, damion, oden, gwneth,sylas
nice, yeah I actually only completed 10-16 doing my daily battle for the login reward haven't pushed yet or tried today 😄 but grats
rlly need help with this
what stage? and show me your rooster?
try to replace lyca for arden, and brutus for wukong not sure if it will work but its to get mireal to pull her ults
with arden CC which would help alot
and you might wanna turn off auto just before mirael gets her ult and back on again after vedan has finished bats, if that's happening around the same time, sometimes that will just kill you but its a little rng
Hey fam need help. This is the only comp I can find everywhere for this stage and my thoran can’t pass half energy and never ults.Any tips?
help please
Any tips? Pull mehira?
Yeah throw call on nara and see if she can pull mehira
yeah she does pull her, but my team gets kinda of obliterated. I'm using nara on rowan spot and rowan instead of eironn
You gotta use nara on mehira
I used izold for it but yours isn't +30
Advice?
yeah I don't think I'm building him for a while, going for dims comp next
nah they're locked, I used one where I shouldn't have
Hmm humor me here but try:
Nara
Lorsan
Lyca/talene
Thoran
Pippa
Might be a bit more difficult without 3f thoran
Into ezizh?
And you need tank tree 15 if it's not
Does ezizh completely block thoran every time
yeah I got that 15, I'll try and see
Crazy how low people can push now, I was 316 when I cleared 30
yeah, and I'm not even that low
Well they were also 405 at the time
yeah, the deficit is pretty similar
You could try some scuffed form of Gwyneth too possibly
How's thoran holding up, if he keeps getting blocked then don't bother
yeah I don't think he can do it
What should I do rn?
please I could really use the advice
For what?
Hmmm lineup depend on the enemy team
;-;
Try to read the question pins... help who to build
Try to switxh tidus and cel
@ruby drift twins or tasi
i got to 10-30 and still goingg
very nice! I think I need a few more levels for it to be smooth sailing or more time retrying so will sit at 10-19 for now 😄
mireal needs level 141 to doo big dps
Not sure but I think you should ask in #classic-questions
Can anyone help me on this?
What do you think ab ny lineup and should i switch rowen for guineth
@ember belfry try putting the fire girl 4 Nara 3 the healer 5 the guy with the crown 1 and another tank for 2
Idk if that will work but it's worth a shot
Have you seen the pins in #classic-questions ?, it has good suggestions for getting started
Hey, I need some advice how to setup my team since ive been stuck in the campaign
how can my lineup be better and what heroes do i put in for my resonating crystal?
Halp I can merc anyone
U think I didn’t try it 
do you have 5 pull? otherwise just use normal cc heroes like fera tasi. With the luc merc
I don't see chicken, try it with cc
No 5 pull so what’s the comp fera tasi lucrecia rowan ?and
maybe daimon,, try things around ahaah
What did u use to complete it
I used a daimon comp, I think with grez merc
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Man do u have the swap scroll still?
Yah ur shem furni can is quite an investment
can someone help me beat 29-60 :l
Guys I have hit a wall - even with overnight afk exp hasn't made a difference. Appreciate any guidance
Fereal is a bit meeh that early on, replacing him with someone more impactful might help. Hard to say what to do without seeing how the fight actually goes, but Prince instead of Fereal might work maybe?
You're slowly getting to the point where Wukong starts falling off as a carry, you'll want to start working on getting him replaced with a Mirael of your own soon
I will try that, thanks.
I was planning on getting current team to all 100 before resetting and levelling ascended fodder, should I just do that now?
Don't think you need to rush it, though once you have enough fodder to get Arden and Mirael going in particular, it's worth resetting and replacing Fereal and Izold, the two of them are somewhat lackluster that early on
Thanks @spare robin
@spare robin I just went back into game and my prince is only level 31 now!?
Uuuh, and walker is 13, yeah
I can't actually remember how the game deals with trial heroes like that in the earlygame
They have both been at min of my top 5 since I got them
Yeah, I thought they used some kind of average based on your strongest units or something, or just following the lowest levelled as if they were in the crystal, I dunno why they've both dropped so much, and not even to the same level
Will post over to #classic-questions
how do i imrpove my team ? icant lv my other chars to lv 120
Best lineup ? (I’m level 12-20)
Any clues ? :)
anyone got the artifacts used for 35-60 ?
Any idea?
Logged back onto an alt account to pass time waiting on main. What's a good comp with what I have here?
any help here? 😂
Should i use Gwyn or Daim as my early carry? Its only really to carry me until Gazes
P sure daimon is better
I'm still using Daimon even in chapter 31
Daim it is
Fairly new to the game and getting stuck on this stage, this is my line up and my total heroes, anything I can do to be more effective in clearing and progressing?
You guys think I can start spending diamonds exclusively on SG? My main comp currently is Daimon-Eironn-Lyca-Tasi-Rowan, ch30.
Hey would be a good beast lineup for the tower? I can change the ones I have in the crystal rn, if that makes more sense, I didn't have many of that kind until recently, so its the hero genre I have the least exp with
Up fera and maybe after
Advice for this fight?
Does the monkey survive ? @toxic mulch
Thx! :)
Any idea ?
Thoran : bottom front / Rowan : top front / Daimon Tasi Ferael backline
I tried but either Tasi oneshot or Daimon one shot, not talking about ferael
Eironn is the problem right ?
yep, his pull = instant death
Idk about the rest of the team since I can't survive long enough
hmm, maybe if you use your nara. she will get one shotted but maybe she will have time to cancel him
she does cancel him but in that case I don't have the tankiness for the rest of the team :/
It worked this way, thanks for the Nara advice
He doesn't, his top line is full of Rare+
i only see 9
He also has 1 epic fodder bottom right
better pic sry
i didnt see the one behind the s
do i keep legend fodderuntil i have it l+ then use it?
Some formation Idea to help me pass this stage?
@thick pier ye just make the daimon L until u get another copy.
like this for l?
Yes
i get the lvs back?
yes you get all materials used for levels back

uhm pls tell me you didn't fodder grez
I mean, no one told you not to. But it's a general rule never to fodder 4 skill heroes
was it major fk up?
And you have enough R+ fodder, you just needed to ascend it
Grez is a hero that you'll want to build later on, he's one of the best 4f heroes in the entire game. That said, he needs 9f and that takes a while, so you might get enough copies by then
what is 9f
9 furniture
anyone have any advice
maybe try:
arden
daimon
nara
brutus
mirael
i die instantly without healing
brutus dont have invincibility on lvl 130?
its 4 seconds and he dies after that is up
Brutus has very short shield pre-141
ah right, dont rmber what levels he get more time
i can put estrilda in the resonating crystal
stoppp making L/L+
He only got 2 lol.
The other 3 are fodder nothing wrong with them.
they seem pretty underleveled for chapter 22
Kekw, it was starting accs mistake
But regardless outside of this I want to see if there is combo to kill this without just overleveling it
move rowan to backline, use ur brutus
So this is a level. You reckon I have a shot or just wait until my crystal is 200?
Did the job thanks
np
i'm happy you beat the stage 🙂
Thanks again for helping, I was super stuck on this one and could not come close to beating it due to Eironn pull, but you gave me the solution right away ! 😁
Any formation suggestions? Im stuck here
move daimon and lyca to backline
What should the frontline be then?
tasi and eironn
Yeah, my team gets insta wiped. I think Ill have to level them up a bit more. Thanks for the help tho 🙂
im not the best at helping with lineups, but yes u do seem a bit underleveled :’)
Which elite hero should I level up in the lvl 1s
ask in #classic-questions
Greetings. I'm stuck at ch.8 and just reseted everyone. Which champions should I lvl up?I think I really feel need in tank, but I don't really have one
And I'm new player,I didnt really knew much about wishlist,so here we are. It'sybr better to focus fr scratch on new server?
Hello @next halo,
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np ! Nara is very usefull in stages like this one when you need to shut down one enemy 🙂
could someone help me please? who should i use? i'm at chapter 10-21
this is my current setup
Use Brutus, he gets immune for a couple of seconds
So, I'm still barely clearing stages. More because of time than actually dying. What would be best course of action?
Edit: I clear normal stages no problem. I've got down to 10ish seconds on several boss stages though
Might want to work on Mirael soon, get her to L+, overlevel her, and get to work, wukong is not gonna be good for long
Try to get Rowan too
So close! Can’t seem to get this Luc cheese to work... any help is highly appreciated!
Maybe lorsan?
Have you used Lyca already?
Cheese takes retries too
Yah Lyca used up - I been working at this for the past hour
I also have Izold 309 Merc too
underleveled is a good thing tho. means one is pushing quite hard.
tidus out for queen
Read the guide in questions channel
You gotta stop making L heroes without the copies to get them to L+, it's of fodder heroes
You don't have a carry, could build mireal for now, eventually daimon
So
Brutus-luca
Rosa-mireal-free spot
Then you adjust depending on what you get
I'd try a backline of tasi rowan eironn. would be better if u had a nara or athalia instead of eironn here but is what it is.
Ok Ill sub in Queen for Tidus and run it for a while
read the pins in #classic-questions
@leaden turtle Why Mirael? O.o
I'm just using wukong since everyone in our server got a free copy and didn't have any of the labyrinth store heroes
Mirael is a fodder heroe, you get a lot of copies, you can get her to L+ easy, use her until lvl160 then use it to get a hero like Rowan to Mythic
have yet to Ult when queen is in the lineup...
if ur timing out instead of dying, u likely need more dps. it's about time to transition to mirael carry - read the pins in #classic-questions if u haven't
Hmm.. alright. I know dps is the issue. Would have never considered using a blue base hero though
looking for zaph leg+ for library please, I am willing to garrison your dimensionals monthly if you have it. ID 106413619. or dm me
blue base heroes are roughly equal to purple base heroes prior to lvl 160. since mirael's skills are actually superior to those of other units, that's why she gets the nod.
Saveas is also an option if you happen to get him first, it's just a bit less efficient
game crashed.... effen christmass
anyone know how to counter this team?
Honnestly, a stronger Ainz is the best counter for Ainz...
Maybe burst comp with frontline eironn
so just mirror with a stronger ainz you mean?
I'd do
Arthurs-bedo
Ainz-rowan-lyca
So should I be taking murael to purple plus or gold plus?
okay, thanks
Yeah it's 100% safe you'll just use her eventually as fodder
Any Idea ?
Need to pull mehira, what's do you usually use?
Rowan-lyca
Eiron-tasi-fereal, might have to retry and move them a bit
Hmm well to make her gold I would have to eat Gwyneth. Is she worth keeping at all?
I tend to use Thoran / Brutus front
Daimon Rowan Ferael back, not too sure about Tasi, won't she get one-shot ?
Don't fodder A tier heroes, be patient a bit, I know it's hard
I don't like that you can't react to messages in this discord lol. I'm so used to thumbs-up posts lol
Tasi is great with daimon, cus she stalls
Could try
Brutus-rowan
Tasi-daimon fereal?
is there any recommend teams at my current stage?
Tasi just dies before ulting 😦
Depends on the heroes you have, best bet is the guide in #classic-questions pins
So mireal carry until lvl160
k tannks
Than Lyca maybe?
Tasi loves a 3/9 furn
Tasi is 3/9 sadly, she just doesn't have the tankiness
The ezizh probably doesn't help
Can you run 5 pull?
Do you have a suggestion on how can i beat Misty Valley level 18?
Can i get tips for 3 comps for LCT
Yes, Skriath reached 3f but sadly it's not enough 😦
Yeah you need Tidus too
I did it with a safiya comp and a lot of retries
Might have to be patient
this is my current team (yes I have a L Lyca) can somebody help me? If you need me to show my heros i can show them
I'm stuck on this stage what should for this stage and in what positions
who is worth investing in?
Brutus thoran daimon rowan lyca
Brutus lyca fareal rowan daimon
Daimon scale crazy
I need help with this
i mean more so @lunar gulch who should i add to my lineup, i only have 4 right now and i dont think mirael is worth being my 5th
Daimon will solo carry you . He works good with brutus rowan fareal/tasi/lyca. You priority is to buy time for daimon
Any suggestions? If need be I'll tell you who I have available
Did you change your wishlist glitch ? I mean Wish List in Traven
Gorvo ulmus belinda thane nemora you have L . There are better heros than them
i have a 20 3 lucius, 20 3 brutus, 20 3 belinda, 20 3 arthur, 20 3 nemora, 30 saurus, 10 3 gorvo, 10 fawkes, 20 skreg, 20 3 thoran, 10 3 raine, 10 gywn, 10 lorsan, 30 3 wukong, 20 izold, 10 numisu, 10 vurk, 10 khasos, 10 oden, 20 daimon, 20 tasi, 20 raku, 10 ehziz available
The problem is that i have low tier gear on them
Its not issue rn. You need to read pinned guide . Definitely your wish list need to change imo
@lunar gulch my wishlist already contains every hero you told me to use
who does tasi cc
Ill check
Ulmus belinda gorvo thane shemira nemora shouldn't be in wish list. They are not good
Most of the time no cc but when she does cc its daimon cuz by then only him and ainz are alive most of the time
do you have albedo? if you use ainz as a carry you need to support him with albedo
no albedo but I can garrison her. I have 100 dim stones I was saving to regarrison ainz incase I cant buy 200 with PoP
just wait till you can get PoP, then double garrison them, im currently waiting on them as well rn, i dont have either
I dont need to use ainz tho. Most of the time Daimon does more anyways for me rn. I just used him here cuz I couldnt find any effect with anyone else like tasi or nara or ferael so i thought maybe ainz ult might atleast do some damage or kill someone and daimon can finish it
try that fight rowan front instead of lyca, and tasi for brutus
I can't say but try brutus lucius gwen rowan belinda .
so tasi rowan, fereal lyca daimon
AFKHelper has once again failed, surprisingly. Who do I use for these?
i remember that stage being rough. solise can one shot your team when she gets an ult off, y ou have to stop her from ulting
For this reason only im running Ainz with daimon or else i wont use Ainz.
if you dont have albedo, ainzs biggest contribution is the stun after 24 seconds
and i doubt your heros are alive for that long
@surreal brook with this formation tasi consistently ccs daimon
was brutus baiting the tasi cc when he was low?
Planning to get her after POP . Then i can unlock Ainz potential
idk actually but maybe. He is immune to it when on the death shield right?
yes but it can still target him and the effect will fizzle
@lunar gulch didnt work, probably going to take me a week or until short-term will be available again
https://youtube.com/shorts/mB7Ebrcs6CA?feature=share took a quick video of the fight. One moment and Ill take one of the previous comp too
stuck here
https://youtu.be/AdLbni9t2uw not much better but atleast some damage is done xD
I got a few fights before where I managed to even kill some enemies and get ezizh to like 10%
@surreal brook
Can i have a suggestion on how to beat Misty valley level 18?
ainz isnt super effectve against grezhul
It doesnt actually seem to be quite winning though even when I get lucky
i wouldnt use him or any intellegence based carry again st grezhil cause of grezhuls passive
yea I know. I tried with tasi or ferael or whoever else instead before but none worked so as I said I thought maybe ainz can atleast ult and do some damage but nah with ezizh he cant even ult xD
What was the challenge?
Good to know, but who exactly (from my box) do I use??
@reef oyster is that the one where you gotta kill Rigby and Estrilda first?
Oden is really good at it, he saved my ass that stage
I had some screenshot of that before. Let me see if I can find it
@nocturne furnace i get killed very quickly by Morael
see if oden for one stage and kill with erionn for the other
The stages with Solise?
@timid tulip4 wilder, same class
@nocturne furnacevictory, 4 wilder, every hero same class
oh that piece of shit. I used a merc lucretia for same class
wilder I cant recall but 4 random wilders + lucretia cant go wrong
U got a luc merc?
I think I proly used a merc saurus and my lyca and tasi aswell as raku. And then my daimon or ainz
@nocturne furnacei'll search for one
but yeah same class was lucretia and 4 other rangers
I used 4 wilders with my 3 furn skirath
I used a 203
finally beat 15-32
you could merc, but lucretia 1v9 might be easier, just another option
damn took me 3 hours
Could also try switching eironn and saurus position
@nocturne furnacei'll try
Oh and put like fera or sum over skraith
Np
For the same class one you could go all mages with ainz.
Or could try gwyn over saurus and ezio over lorsan
Any Suggestions?
I need a visual
guess ill be stuck for few hours
That first part is fucking me over in every direction
send me a visual of it again
^^^^^^
can anyone help me with this?
for fight one, use a normal comp. firght two save erionn and lyca and maych errionj on ogi. for fight three its gonna be rng till oden stops solise from ulting
do you have a copy of rosa
no
hmmm, well its gonna be rough cause belinda does well with a rosa to be herbattery
try lucuis brutus, walker belinda rowan
i had rosa but i was stupid enough to ascend her with belinda to get her mythic
ouch. thats gonna hurt
yea
that didnt work
damn i really want to get to 16-2 so that i unlock stargazing
thats a problem when having belinda as your only carry
brutus is like the only good tank i have
sometimes you might have to jjust take a break for awhile and get stronger
Normal comp? Each one I use, I either die in 6 seconds, 10 seconds, or 15 seconds.
what have you been using to get there?
with an albedo
Not sure he can really use an albedo
why garrison ainz without albedo
what should I try to beat this?
Garrisoning 2 heroes at once would be tough at his stage
damn how to i beat 15-37
Any thoughts besides "build kren" I'm working on that one
could someone please help me with line ups for 35-56, im hard stuck https://imgur.com/a/dQfqaKr
have you checked out https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=35&stage=56 ?
i have not, didnt know this page existed haha
It's the only way I could help you ahahah, still a ch30 scrub myself. Best of luck!
thanks alot hopefully i can find an answer there
Good team?
no, drop shemira especially, get a wukong and overlevel him. Check out the pinned guides in #classic-questions
How do I get one so I know what banner to summon on
summon on the normal banner, a share button shows up on the bottom left, tap that, you don't need to share at all tho
Don’t see the share button
I did get this tho
it's on the bottom right actually.
https://youtu.be/dWY2CQoceH0?t=438 I got you a timestamp here
Redemption Code
misevj66yi
I need real help been stuck for a couple days
Thanks so much
You don’t need to summon anything now. Just go at events tab, press on the wukong image and there will be a share button ( nvm u figured it out )
shemira and talene don't do anything there, get brutus in top frontline, pull isabella with nara and maybe daimon in front of niru
Thanks still
You're welcome, I still recommend checking out the pinned guides in #classic-questions, at least the image one, has everything you need to know
Who should Nara pull
isabella, brutus to tank shemira
And what should I put for the 2 back lines
Before you go should I retire one of these if so which one(obviously not the monkey dude)
ainz desira might work.
@kindred furnace definitely retire shemira, she's terrible
Damn
Shemira was my main carry for a couple chapters maybe 10+
I somehow got her ascended in my first few days so I just went with it
game throws a lot of her at you, but she's very outperformed. She'll still work for you as a dim link but that's about it. She can be used in dark nemora tr too
Any help here? (That doesn’t include rowan tasi daimon fearel brutus)
If need be I’ll swap some around to see what works
Any Idea ?
Try daimon tasi nara rowan lyca
You can also try rowan in place of tasi, and fearel in place of the 4 spot
Eironn easy pull front of ezizh
Didn’t even notice he had an eironn 
Daimon Rowan Nara Eironn Fearel can work then I believe
Yeah, but, eironn it's not good middle. Brutus will go brrrr, he's better front, pulling nara also.
Brutus do be brring tho
Like this ?
That can work
Nah, rowan front too
I’d try daimon front first a couple times tbh, then if it isn’t working rowan in place
Well, he may need lyca also there, instead of dunno who
It's not even close in both case
Bcs eironn is weak without lyca
Try rowan Brutus, nara daimon lyca
Also, try once ferael instead of nara, with call
A bit better but still far away :/
Daimon gets crushed
What's your artifacts? Rowan tank so good with chalice
Rowan Chalice, Daimon Call, Brutus Barricade and I tend to flex with the rest of the team
I just think, with all the nerfs, ppls are getting on this chapter undergeared 
I'm almost all M on the heroes used but not much faction stuff yes
Yeah, well, m it's not big deal, t2 it is
Have you tried already ferael instead of nara?
daimon full T2 but that's it, also yes i'm trying this but call makes daimon no ult mode
Swap Brutus rowan
it's her bats
Yeah, she is weird sometimes
first time encountering one and I don't want to see her ever again
is your nara pulling mehira before she gets her bats? If not you need call and/or gb t1 boots
I'm using Ferael rn it's closer with him
^^ make sure nara pulls the mehira
it's so close jesus
Fereael might work better bcs he's cc ing ezizh also
Mhm, make lyca tankier somehow, grace artifact etc, maybe better gear, bcs ferael doesn't need much gear anyway
When it gets close I have to deal with Vurk -_-
If it’s close then it might be RNG, keep trying and it should get beat. Also remember try no mythic weapon on fearel
no mythic weapon on ferael?
fear comes faster
Makes him use his fear first without the mythic weapon
Lil secret buff that comes with him, it’s weird

wait, nara grabs mehira without bats that's fucked up, vurk's ult eeeeeh
no weapon at all or legendary?
Whichever works
ugh i could still star my stuff but i dont want to go monkey mode
Vurk is the big trouble but nara is enough for mehira at least
anyone have any idea what i can do? my silas insta dies and he can't heal anyone resulting in team wipe
that's silvina's doing, try rowan as he can heal even when he dies because of his potion cart
rowan instead of silas?
just got owned - nara is kinda controlling the silvina but when the vampire guy turns into bats basically everyone takes massive damage
nara should control the isabella
try having nara control isobelle, damon position 5 and rowan position 2, basically, try live long enough for mirael to ult, may need to turn auto ult off if vedan is in bats mode when you ult
yeah nara controlling the isabella is working well the two tries ive had turns into 1v1s against the bat guy and i lose 😫
when i put rowan position 2 he just dies so fast
might have to retry a bunch to get a success, vedan can be a pain, 1 more lvl on your Mirael should help a bunch too if you have the dust (I'm at like the same spot but a few quests behind actually)
mirael is level capped
rowan doesn't need to live really, his cart is ok to keep daimon and brutus up a bit longer for your Mirael to build ult
oh yeah just realised that it heals after death which is nice
do you think i should try and get the second artifact?
Of course, you should get all of them
no i mean is it going to help me win the stats on it don't look too great
can't be sure, they are nice though, you also get other rewards if you haven't already cleared the maps
yeah i tried one time but it was super hard i almost started to cry irl 😆
you should get a good merc and it'll be a breeze
I’m stuck on CH 10 does anyone have any ideas what I can build better with my line up atm I know I fucked up a bit but any help would be very appreciated
what specific part are you stuck on? its easier to figure out a good comp when looking at enemy comp
Nara is kind of cracked you should build her. Shemira probably isn't doing anything for you cuz she's under 161 so I would honestly abandon her and get your Mirial up. Thoran imo is great for any level cuz of his tank and at this stage you could always use Talene for damage too
Was against this
Thanks
Literally can’t put a dent in this stage
Need help on this stage, it’s a bit of a disoriented team but it’s the closest I’ve gotten.
pull isabella, rowan in for silas, estrilda out daimon front
kinda had to spam it but thanks
that tends to happen a lot if you want to try and push
Yeah I’ve had to do it a lot, not as much as the others though, I’ve heard a lot about retrying stages as much as 100 times. To add on I also have another question, do u think I should stop and let myself upgrade my hero’s or should i keep pushing?
Drop lucretia for oden
Any suggestions on how to make this better? I’m not stuck I just want to see if it can be better
You can swap out any one hero for another hero that’s not a celepogean
when I started out I asked if a certain stage was possible, someone answered that as long as you can start a stage, you can clear it. With that said, the bigger the deficit the more retries and reshuffling it's going to take.
If you want to be as optimal as possible you should always try to push, but afk arena is a game so there's no point playing it if you're not having fun.
I'll say: keep pushing as long as you're having fun, if you feel frustrated at the game or are starting to get bored, put it down a few hours and when you come back you might clear that stage first time (it really does happen, even at my stage).
Your stage must be hard, deficits and all included, but is pushing very optimal in this game if your going to sacrifice being stuck on a lvl for as long as a week bc of lvls. Just don’t know how to go about it; I’ve been watching a YouTuber do a new f2p series but he never really addressed it other than saying that saving diamonds and not pushing has more of a grey answer than a black and white.
not pushing is very black and white, especially early game. It's even worth it to do some suboptimal things just to progress faster as that'll benefit you more in the long run (as per metabreaker's guide to esperia) just because you unlock so many things that benefit all parts of your account
that guide that I mentioned is pretty nice and has a part dedicated to early game that you can check out if you want more insight into what I'm talking about. You can find it here https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/nx0j2d/metabreakers_guide_to_esperia_introduction/
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will do
Didn’t work
need help mirael is buttfucking my entire team
I don't think there is much you can do there, probably about your lineups limit, maybe swap Arden for Athalia, and switch Rowan and Wu-Kong positions and hit retry a few times
looking for advice for pushing LB faction tower - should I prio Lucius or Peggy?
Any idea ?
Your power level shows you should be stomping them
Any help? Stuck with the stage and pushing currently, new to the game so trying to pull from the wish-list in the pins
Don't use Nara for Khasos use her for either Saveas or middle guy. I would get rid of Oden and put in Rowan honestly too
Did you see the bit about not making L heroes unless you can make them L+ o.o, I think you don't have an over-levelled carry so you may struggle a bit, I don't have a lot of line-up advice exactly for that problem however
Also Izold is shit at the level and without si use thoran for now he can tank damage
Oh, okay I'll give that a try, I been swapping Nara for tasi if the Carry has been super powered
Even low level thoran?
I only joined discord yesterday, so I didn't see all the useful stuff to then :(
oh well, it's just a matter of time to fix up, you want all those heroes eventually anyway
Should I upgrade thoran with fodder or keep fodder for daemon
I would def put your Thoran in the crystal I use him and he carried me solo out of arena 12 along with Daimon. Rowan is great Ferel is great. Overall your graveborn luck is neat and I can see that setup coming into play.
But you made a mistake by getting your heroes to legendary without having enough to get them even higher. Like your gun chick and your gwen
So I should be putting feral in as well or is sylos better option?
Yeah I see that now with the pinned guide :(
Silas is fine you either use Silas or Rowan I recommend Rowan rn though.. but take out Oden and put in either Lyca or Fereal and take out Izold and res with Thoran
So keep thoran at elite + and put him in the crystal?
Wow ok cool, so keep every everything for daemon then? As he's my carry?
Appreciate all the feedback, thank you
And yes with Daimon he is op honestly i wouldn't even mid overleveling him with the L cuz he's just so useful
So like this?
Try that out maybe if works or not. Usually ur gonna need to put Rowan in the front to bait a lil for Daimon to ult. But if you use Rowan you don't need Silas most likely. I would try and replace with Lyca cuz she's legendary for you?
How can I get more gweniths?
Rowan dies in one hit and khakis kills sylos and farel in one hit once thoran is down
Put izold and thoran up front Nara to the far left Rowan the same and out daimon back right
Try that
Did that work?
This level is impossible is there any units I can possibly put in my crystal that'd flex well into this
Put DAimon in crystal he will stomp any unit even at Elite - Rowan you should be getting to a higher level for sure as well prioritize him over Hogan at least
You could maybe use Izold as a tank for now cuz ur low on troops
Bro might need to restart
Who me?
What server number are u? Like how long ago did u start
Yesterday
I don't see why he should restart you have hella Elites and you have the Rowan elite+ already and you pulled an athalia
Oh nvm sorry lol, try izold in crystal daimon and desira
^^ Daimon will be your carry Arden and Mirial are fine for now but Hogan has to go
It’s because if he started a week ago he would be to low for his server.
So reset Hogan for now?
NOOOOO DONT
Why not? It seems god to reset Hogan and put all of the materials on Izold doesn't it
Hogan is good food for Rowan once u get more food for rowan u use hogan for food for rowan to get rowan leg plus max out rowan
What
Diamond rowan izold will be ur tank for now and late game. Never reset people
Daimon* sorry
This is me at chapter 17 daimon is such a hard carry and my rest are support for daimon
For starting yesterday u got broken people so just grind as much as u can and look up acend guides this game is a lot of skill a lot more than it looks like @pale kettle
Help pls
Send me a list of all ur hero’s
It didn't work no :(
Damn sorry
It's OK, I guess I just need to wait and hope for more daemon copies
Khasos and the spear guy just crit my tanks and back line so fast I can't do enough damage before daemon dies
Yea
That’s why u need thoran and Alna lol that’s what I use for my stalls for daimon
Ah, yeah I'll look at more pins and stuff in the discord so I can set up better and not waste ascension like I did
I could but mytic gear but I've been keeping all my resources for the Prince event
I think that is smart, you can get mythic gear later but not prince
Don’t spend stuff in the store till later in the game
OK, I just gotta do dailies and hope for good pulls now then, I'll pool my champions and get copies ready
retrying a lot also helps, but if you are needed more to do you can read a lot of guides and make some long term plans too
I’m looking to try an Eironn carry comp, any suggestions?
Half of the lower levels are luck induced.
If you have a Talene my go to reccomendation will always be Talene - Izold - Daimon - Rowan - Silas
Any tips? Any characters to start grinding for? Currently can’t pass this stage (I’ve been switching Belinda for prince every so often because she gets 1 shot by silvina) just got back into the game after around 2 years
Ok thx hnn
It worked?
who would be doing the damage in this comp?
the only person doing damage in that formation would be Rowan 
Nah they are too weak for me to win
I passed the first part, but I still need help with the second part. Who do I use?
which one
do either of them work, if yes, just choose that one
youre kinda fucked if your on a server with ainz.
could prolly run: talene/saurus rowan twins mehira tasi
or could just go with a standard eironn set like: rowan lyca ferael eironn tasi
what artifacts should i put for talene/saurus rowan twins mehira tasi?
blade/chaos call call windbider call
depending on who u gaze you could also run alna gb: alna grez ferael rowan oden(but obviously u would need to build a lot for it)
i have 40 stargazer cards right now. Who should I gaze for?
tough call tbh. im tempted to say alna with how big your roster is but you are missing core stuff and carries arent that invested in. so i would prolly go with lucretia on your acc
Campaign help
I also have the desired hero summon thing, who should i get for that?
i would ascend the daimon
I got him to ascended, should I continue rolling him or someone else?
oh the pic had him at mythic+ still sry. go for either tidus(if he isnt ascended) or skraith or oden if u dont have 4 E+ copies of them already
Does anyone have idea how i can pass this stage
that shem looks like a nice swap scroll
but u could try: brutus rowan lyca ferael daimon @pulsar needle
Oh i did IT with hour help thanks @nocturne furnace
What should my lineup be?
??
well who did u use the first round?
and could u post again so i dont have to constantly scroll pls
Your roster does not look to be in a good position to stargaze using diamonds.
I have 30 stargazer cards
Oh THIS kind of stargazing
Any lineup suggestion?
Have you tried afkhelper ?
