lineup-help

[sharp ledge]

Any help on the setup for this battle

@coarse gust Rowan is a must if using ligter team

[warm rain]

Any suggestions? Also got Ainz and Arthur merc

[charred ermine]

Try a

Daimon
Rowan
Eirron
Lyca
Saurus/Pipa

[lunar gulch]

Rowan is safest choice

[slate elm]

You got lucretia?

[odd basin]

Who should I use for my 3 supports?

[heavy gorge]

Just try one by one

[pale kettle]

I'd try Arthur, Rowan, Ainz, Brutus, and Taisi or Lyca or maybe Rosa. Haven't tried Raine but if she buffs ainz then maybe that also. Tbh I have albedo which gives ainz a massive damage buff

[stark folio]

best I could do for campaign?

[somber flax]

How to beat this stage

[pale kettle]

Don't put Eironn in front of estrilda, she negates is starting pull.

I think when I beat it my 2nd team was Eironn, Saurus, Lyca, Tasi, and Nemora and I had to move the placements around a bit

[somber flax]

Okay i will try your suggestion

[hasty kernel]

New player need help with lineup

[fluid coral]

Anyone help me? I am stuck :C

[radiant sonnet]

can anyone help >:

[cedar copper]

ive been using this for awhile but i cant stay alive long enough and im starting to need more dps

[honest storm]

Anyone?

[novel gale]

Do I have a hope in hell of clearing this, 21-60. Been trying for like 3 hours.

[sick loom]

did you try some afk helper comps ?

[novel gale]

i did, all the ones I looked at have multiple 200+ level champs and at least 1 or 2 ascended

alot of 200-220 ainz carries

this is the most similar to the team i am using, but i dont have either of the bottom graveborn guys built

[sick loom]

mm yeah, the ferael fear on tasi is huge

[clear lark]

stuck lol

[onyx mulch]

how should I do this?

[ebon hazel]

Rent-A-Gwen

Or Rowan Estrilda Gwen Rosa Lucius

Anyone know if there's a way to Izold this?

[sleek torrent]

Brutus with barricade could work, pos 4 mehira might be enough cc to help izold ramp up, tasi for more cc, and I've used lyca with izold before for faster ults/damage

[frosty hull]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeTLwtLW/

[maiden marsh]

#memes

[proper orchid]

First 2 were successful, merc available

[white burrow]

Sorry was already asleep when you replied. Yeah I got her from Elite Hero Soulstone.

[tidal spear]

Trying to use kren on front line is suicide cuz he just somehow runs into eironn for death. Any tips?

[storm epoch]

try this brutus has barricade right?

[tidal spear]

Mmm let me try to merc a drez

[storm epoch]

ill send gears too if needed

[tidal spear]

Thanks for the tips

[clear lark]

anyone know how i can beat this

[zinc glacier]

What heroes i should focus on enhancing ascending

[turbid minnow]

Any decent teams I can make with these peps on my alt?

[formal yarrow]

@sly talon give it a few more retries

[sly talon]

Ok...

[storm epoch]

highly recc 3rd if eironn gives most trouble nara/athalia if mehira

[clear lark]

ty

[patent hemlock]

Try pulling mehira with nara, if you have her

[clear lark]

alright

[sly talon]

@formal yarrow Not working. 😦

[patent hemlock]

Send box and stage again

[patent hemlock]

How’s your tasi look?

[formal yarrow]

i beat that stage with the same hero levels and heroes as urs, down to si levels and furns

[sly talon]

Horrible. She's only E+.

[formal yarrow]

with the exact formation too, but try putting daimon and rowan on the bottom

[sly talon]

That made things even worse, Thane just shreds Daimon like cheese.

[patent hemlock]

If you can’t use tasi then that comp is your best bet, try brutus fearel lyca nara daimon

[formal yarrow]

your rowan should take a few hits, what are his gears like ?

[patent hemlock]

@sly talon if you try this lmk how it works

[turbid minnow]

?

[storm epoch]

give this a shot if estrilda buff is the issue Brutus(drape) Rowan(chalice/grace) Rosa(Blade) Ferael(eye) Daimon(call)

[empty pulsar]

@sly talon

Was a long time ago, but might give you ideas.

[sly talon]

He takes one hit and dies.

[vestal mauve]

35-56 and 35-60

[sly talon]

@patent hemlock Still stuck.

[patent hemlock]

Probably just a gear problem, might need to just wait it out and upgrade

[sly talon]

I have the upgrade stones, I need factioned boots. If I wait, that'll probably be like at least 2 weeks.

My Daimon has full T2 gear, and Ferael has full T1 with his weapon at T2.

[manic ravine]

Need some help building 3 teams for pushing campaign. Appreciate any help

[maiden marsh]

ainz is one obviously. thoran will be another provided there's a cheesable stage which is the case for all but one multi. the third can be daimon, raku, izold, or any combination of the three. lots of options for that slot

[manic ravine]

@maiden marsh problem I'm having is rowan can be only in 1 team. Also thoran cheese doesn't seem to work in any team I've tried

[maiden marsh]

ainz doesn't need rowan. rowan can go with thoran or the third team depending on the situation

[summer cedar]

not that I can think of. have u tried cheese?

[wide breach]

@manic ravine if you’re copying someone’s thoran setup pay attention to their artifacts and whatnot too. Can make a difference for consistency

[turbid minnow]

Any changes I should make?

[manic ravine]

Ok say rowan with thoran and GB gang. I'm left with the wilders which total get smashed. They're too soft. Eironn, raku, lyca, tasi,

[wide breach]

@manic ravine get Skriath +3 furn and you can run 5 pull

[manic ravine]

That's with eironn? @wide breach

[maiden marsh]

thoran cheese is it's own separate thing from your other GB carries, if you weren't aware

[wide breach]

Eironn tidus skriath Lyca safiya

[manic ravine]

My issue is also thoran / wilder gang / izold don't pop off their ults before they melt

[wide breach]

For thoran you can run Ezizh, he does his job as energy battery even at L

[summer cedar]

mirael should get all of your resources and be lvl 160 asap. skreg lucius lyca mirael rowan would be a good team.

[wide breach]

Make sure you have duras call on thoran

[summer cedar]

try the site.

[wide breach]

+3 furniture helps too but isn’t required

[turbid minnow]

So

Rowan
Skreg
Mirael
Lucius
Lyca?

[patent hemlock]

Don’t make L heroes

[patent hemlock]

And yeah like he said, make mireal your main carry rn

[summer cedar]

I said lyca 3rd and rowan 5th but that might also work. notice the order I typed them - there's numbers written on the floor.

[manic ravine]

@wide breach ok will try

[patent hemlock]

Any ideas here? I’ll send box in a second

[odd basin]

For my tank should I use grezhul or Lucius?

[frigid linden]

fawkes and tasi cc is murking me

[loud mica]

Lucius is nice but he falls off later on. Grehzul is more versatile

[loud mica]

Try using Lyca over Silas and Nara over Talene so you can pull Fawkes away and get a team buff early

Might not be the best but its worth a try

[frigid linden]

you’re a genius bro tyty it worked!

[loud mica]

Oh wow

[zinc glacier]

What hero to focus on and to ascend

[vital pine]

Any ideas?

[patent hemlock]

Try rowan tasi fearel eironn daimon

If not, you might need the mehira to get pulled so you can try rowan tasi nara eironn daimon

Assuming you have rowan and tasi’s boots up for the dodge

[pale kettle]

i have been stuck on this area for a while and someone told me to do this layout then never responded

and they told me to make as many legendarys as possible

[maiden marsh]

you were being trolled

[pale kettle]

great he even told me to reset my other layout and i forgot what it was

anyone know how to get me unstuck

[vapid blade]

this is my main lineup, what do i use as my 2nd? i can easily clear all the normal stages and 1st boss stage. but im kind of stuck on the 2nd boss stage, i have a daimon built. but dont know what to use with him

[willow gull]

But well I just wanna ask if this line up would be ok to clear this stage once everyone else is 120 alongside Daimon. I have to afk for about 2-3 days cuz I don’t have enough dust to make 4 of my units 120. There are all at 100

[elder gale]

how come you got in a lvl 1 eiron

[willow gull]

Not in crystal yet, gotta wait for cds

[elder gale]

and a level 1 lyca

well for now if u wanna pass it its ofc better to use levelled units.

[willow gull]

Yea I meant after they are leveled which would be about this week

[elder gale]

tomorrow 24h cd on crystal right. but yeah im sure u could pass this

[willow gull]

But minimum the other 4 gotta be 120 right. Cuz right now with my team at level 100 they are getting one shotted lol

[elder gale]

they will always get 1 hit by isabelle. im stuck on an isa stage now too. isabelle the gb mage girl in the back her ult will 1 shot everything, the trick to this stage is either kill her before her ult. drain her energy or hook her in so you can kill her

[willow gull]

Oh so I gotta swap smth out from this comp?

@spare robin told me to take Nara from the chest but I was thinking of taking the 10 faction scrolls instead

[elder gale]

take nara... its way better. u need 1 copy of nara for these stages because she counters the isabelle stages quite well

[elder gale]

on my stage i can kill nara before she ults but then the rest of the comp fucks me hard. i can kill isa*

[spare robin]

If you don't have Nara, take her, yeah. If you do have her, take the scrolls.
If you take the scrolls you'd use them on graveborn anyway, and if you don't have Nara yet, you want to have her on your wishlist so you can get her, so you might as well just skip the extra step

[elder gale]

i tried to thoran cheese it but no shot with lucius brutus . daimon comp got closer but after isa the rest of the comp just does not die

[fading coral]

i cant beat this for the life of me anyone got any tips?

[hasty kernel]

What good lineup can i make

[spare robin]

Check out the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel, they've got a lot of info on how to build and use your resources in the earlygame

[vivid scaffold]

I'm quite stuck on this level. What merc/comp do you recommend to pass through?

[shy pagoda]

Any suggestions for this?

[echo oak]

Any feedback on my lineup? I'm pretty bad with lineup composition so please don't laugh at my formation lol....

[spare robin]

Daimon
-- Rowan
Nara
-- Brutus
Lyca

Maybe? Looks like you're starting to be held back a lot by the 180 level cap floor though

[spare robin]

That lineup isn't too bad, but you should be more careful with your fodder resources, ascending too many units to L without plan can get you completely stuck on level 140 with no way of progressing to 160 for a long time - as I'm sure you've already started noticing.

Take a look at the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel, there's a good bit of info there that can help you

[shy pagoda]

Yup, waiting for fodder to ascend 😭

[spare robin]

The eternal struggle

[shy pagoda]

I have enough copies of daimon, rowan and skreg to get them to ascended, just no fodder. Would take me to level 220

[spare robin]

Once you have all of those fully ascended, you're all set to go all the way to 240 and above even

[shy pagoda]

Best/fastest way to get fodder?

[willow gull]

@elder gale @spare robin i was trying to get daimon copies with the scrolls lol/ i have 3. need one more to mythic him

[elder gale]

but it doesnt gaurantee daimon it will give you random GB. you will need a nara also in a daimon comp. she shouldnt be on your wishlist but you should grab the copy from the box. no reason to rush it .after you Hero choice pull rowan to ascended you will use it on daimon if he isnt A already anyways.

[willow gull]

after you Hero choice pull rowan to ascended you will use it on daimon if he isnt A already anyway

what do u mean by this?

[elder gale]

when u get your first ascned you will unlock hero choice pulls which you can choose which elite you get fromn summons , if there is an elite in there it will become for instance rowan. rowan has priority since you wont ever use faction scrolls on lightbearers. and after that you will use it on daimon because they are 2 very core heroes

[willow gull]

ahh ok. u get only one hero choice pull? Wait how do i ascend without getting a copy of daimon first lol. hes the only guy i have 3 copies of

[elder gale]

you will get it by time doesnt matter who your first ascended is. u start with 1 and u will go up to 3 by 10 a and i think eventually it becomes 4. im not there yet. you dont need to rush things in this game. it will delay progress over al

[shy pagoda]

After rowan and demon are ascended, who would be next on hero choice?

[elder gale]

depends on who you already pulled , but good examples would be fereal, eiron or others

[willow gull]

btw would you up your gear at chapter 10? i have a elite+(graveborn) chest piece and legend helmet on daimon

[shy pagoda]

Don't level up any gear below mythic

[pale kettle]

any suggestions?

daimon situation

[heavy yacht]

Does someone have an idea on this one

[pale kettle]

How do I beat this stage?

Thoran is keep killing me like over 200times

[maiden marsh]

give lucretia longbow if she's struggling with thoran at the end

[pale kettle]

I did work. Thank you 🙏

[maiden marsh]

[swift tree]

I need help ^^ any suggestions

[frigid linden]

take saveas out for leofric and put silas under daimon

but if silas gets 1 shot there just put him back middle

[swift tree]

Heroes still too fast down 😦

[frigid linden]

u have eironn and safiya?

it’s kinda tough cause all 3 of their backline does big damage so u needa cc some of them, tasi might be good too

[swift tree]

Got an eironn 116 but he‘s insta death too ^^

[frigid linden]

if u have these heroes u can try this

Rowan can be substituted but u want lyca Eironn and safiya just to pull them in and daimon kills

[swift tree]

Lyca and safiya still Lvl 1 🙂 have to upgrade them first

[frigid linden]

yea u should do that, just with crystal

it doesn’t matter if them and eironn die, this comp just sets things up for the carry (daimon for u)

[swift tree]

Thanks 4 your help i will try it

[shut bluff]

Just me again asking for your help with rhis god awful multi battle stage ....

[patent hemlock]

Any help here? I’ll send box now

[main orbit]

Anybody know a good solution

[strong badge]

Try something like this

[main orbit]

Ok thanks ill try it

[strong badge]

Or replace rowan with talene

[sullen mason]

I started to play yesterday.. and now I’m already stuck and can’t beat this fucking lvl. Pls help qwq

[storm epoch]

left side team 1s right team 2s make sure lorsan links tasi or else hes useless

[sharp fulcrum]

Any ideas for positioning or best to wait and upgrade

[patent hemlock]

I got it man dw, but if you’re up to help me on 31-60 👀

Need help here, can’t use daimon rowan tasi talene or fearel :/

[turbid minnow]

Stuck pls help

[storm epoch]

need to merc arthur for gwyn team dont think 5pull works there unless queen is an option bc of twins give me a sec

[patent hemlock]

I passed it with this, surprised it worked

[storm epoch]

gz 🥳🥳🥳 twin slap pretty hard lol i struggle with tidus most the time against them

[patent hemlock]

Yeah lol, thanks for the help though!

[eager warren]

Anyone that can help me with 29-60, ive been rly stuck here :///

[patent hemlock]

Try using nara to pull the safiya

[shut bluff]

Trying to do this final stage... any suggestions guys, most my decent heroes used up in other battles 😦

[patent hemlock]

How does your fearel perform at L+?

[eager warren]

I'll try and tell u how it goes afterwards

[eager warren]

Not rly sure, haven't tried him much but i can try either with nara or fearel

[patent hemlock]

Also can try Tasi Rowan Daimon Lyca ( for haste) & Fearel

Try to have an L weapon on fearel so he gets his fear off first

[eager warren]

Why L weapon? And not M?

[patent hemlock]

When he doesn’t have an M weapon he lets off his accursed arrow first, but usually it’s better letting him get off his fear first.

[eager warren]

Hmmm im not sure if i even have one ://

[maiden marsh]

You can just do no weapon

[patent hemlock]

^

[eager warren]

Alright

But in which order should they be in, in the line up then?

[patent hemlock]

The way I wrote them should work fine

Assuming the fearel performs fine

[eager warren]

First try

[ebon hazel]

Actually that pics wrong, Raine isn't usable, Silias is

Ainz and Gwen stopped working in 3rd fight for me

[eager warren]

Keeps on losing, tried about 13 times now

[daring path]

Any ideas for a team to surround mirael with? About to finish chap 11.

Currently using daimon thoran wu kong mirael leofric

Gonna have to return leofric in an hour and a half anyways.

[ebon hazel]

Thoran Brutus Daimon Mirael Arden

[fervent basalt]

Any tips for this level?

[woven mason]

you ll get another rowan copy in few days for the event so you can push it to M, boost his SI and that should boost your progress by a lot

otherwise it s pretty rng heavy battle bcs fareal fears random enemy and that hurts a lot

[fervent basalt]

Yeah i guess. Just so close to finishing the chapter. Also not sure what happened, leofric used to be M now hes L+

[fervent basalt]

Any tips on what lineup i should try it with?

[ebon hazel]

What team should I use for the third, or should I move 1 or 2 to 3?

[woven mason]

well I don t know how battle goes so I can only say random tips that could help. Lyca could help if you need faster ult, nara to stop fareal, rowan for heals and I would use ainz for carry. Lorsan link would help you burst some tanky enemy but you probably don t need that

[fervent basalt]

Okay tyvm

[woven mason]

ainz team is not working?

[ebon hazel]

Not that I could get to work

[woven mason]

who are you giving to nara?

[ebon hazel]

Usually alb or Brutus

[woven mason]

yea, I was thinking albedo as well. I m trying to figure out could you free up tasi with tidus

[ebon hazel]

Don't think she actually does much before dying, might check if I can just plug in Saurus

Saurus worked better somehow lmao

First tried it

[woven mason]

tasi is usually pretty strong with ainz from my experience so maybe put albedo to nara and tasi in frontline

and maybe lyca/fawkes/rosaline if numisu isn t doing much

I just realized you don t have anybody 30 SI in ainz team and I never used that weak ainz team so take everything I said with grain of salt

[ebon hazel]

So what is my 3rd going to be?

[storm epoch]

try this in place of eironn team lucre last team

[ebon hazel]

?

[storm epoch]

the 2nd screenshot sub this team in free up lucre

[honest storm]

Ideas?

[woven mason]

arden instead daymon, and switch rosa with nara

[honest storm]

Thanks, don't work

[ebon hazel]

Not working

[woven mason]

how much rosaline survives?

[honest storm]

She doesn't do her ult

[woven mason]

is she at least close to do it?

[honest storm]

3/4 and then she dies

[woven mason]

does mirael do her ult?

[honest storm]

Yes

[woven mason]

try switching arden with lyca

and tell me how many ults mirael and rosa do

[woven mason]

this is team that I would probably do with changing lyca with fawkes or rosa

[honest storm]

Done, still the same... Mirael one and then my team is dead

[storm epoch]

if ferael has good gears he can dodge nara might take a few tries though skreg can sub in 1st too lucre just needs to be freed to brute force the last one

[woven mason]

try to put rowan in front of estrilda

[honest storm]

Rosa doesn't ult... Get my teams too bad

[honest storm]

Ahhh got it to work...
Nara out, Tasi in

[royal nacelle]

Is thi possible with my roster

[hollow hatch]

Need lineup help

[maiden marsh]

who does rosa follow

[hollow hatch]

Enemy tasi

[maiden marsh]

try brutus, nemora, grezhul, tasi, ferael

[brave oriole]

Brutus talene, daimon raku ferael @hollow hatch

Or try this

[shy kite]

do you have thoran or brutus? any version works fine

[pale kettle]

Idk what else to try, ive tried lyca and ferael and rowan at almost every position but nothing seems to work

[dusk portal]

need help to get past this stage

[twin hound]

Am I missing a key component for portal party? This seems to die extremely fast

[pale kettle]

Need some help

[brave oriole]

@twin hound maybe wrong artifacts

[twin hound]

@brave oriole

[hazy bramble]

Been stuck on this for like almost 2 days

[brave oriole]

@twin hound iozld need call I have just tried the stage and worked in 5 tries for me

Your lyca dies too fast I guess, and we'll, izold need call

@hazy bramble use rosaline?

@twin hound hey man , Btw. I think your Pippa need to be 3/3 to give imunity to izold

[hazy bramble]

I tried

She gets destroyed before she uses the ult

[brave oriole]

@hazy bramble yeah, do you have rowan? Post your hero box

[hazy bramble]

Aight

[brave oriole]

Mhm, weird, no rowan. Even elite he's good

Try
Rosaline shemira, lyca Lucius desira

[pale kettle]

bump

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle try
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
Eironn
Lyca

[pale kettle]

unfortunately eerion in front row cant pull, I tried with the merc one and that didnt work either

[brave oriole]

Then swap with lyca

[pale kettle]

looks more promising, ill try about 100 or 200 times then get back to you

[brave oriole]

What's your artifacts?

[pale kettle]

Daimon Rowan and merc Errion all on Call, Brutus on Blade (no idea why, i think it was meant to counter fawkes banish) and lyca with eye

[brave oriole]

Mh, try less calls, put chalice on rowan

[pale kettle]

Daimon lives just long enough to ult but he dies right after, rowan lives longer than daimon and gets close to ult but dies before he can

Im not too sure how everyone is dying either, no one is dealing much damage from the enemy team except eerion

[brave oriole]

Try ferael instead of rowan for a sec

[pale kettle]

what artifact on ferael?

[brave oriole]

Doesn't matter much, just for testing

[pale kettle]

rip im at powercap with ferael

40k less than cap to be precise

brb gonna have to do something rq, ping me if anything else comes to mind and if not ty for helping

[brave oriole]

Okay

[covert condor]

Best lucrecia arena team with this? A eiron or a silas one

[pale kettle]

I feel like eerion would do better, silas could get narad or something idk how effective lucy is for arena though

[covert condor]

should be better than daimon, and fun

daimon gets pokd by a eiron and dies

[pale kettle]

thats fair, im currently stuck on campaign bc of eerion. I guess eerion could be a pain forcing your opponent to work around him as well, not sure how much silas would help

[narrow lark]

If you dont have Alna or cycle comps, dont use Luc in PvP

[fickle vortex]

Is this fine?

[covert condor]

i will tho, its my best unit as you see

[covert condor]

you could play wukong instead of kazzard or rosaline for faction bonus. try dumping all exp in daimon no need to lvl them equally, you should read pins in #classic-questions maybe you can fix your tavern wishlist

[fickle vortex]

wait so how much do i wanna dump into her compared to other characters might just reset and dump

[pale kettle]

Anyone know how to help me with this fucking team?

For god’s sakes, don’t tell me to look up a guide. I know my box is shit.

u have a nara?

[pale kettle]

Yeah

[covert condor]

you want to have your carry as highest as possible, 80 /60/60/60/60 works good, after that give some lvls to tank, last supports

[pale kettle]

nara the isabella and try a brutus thoran frontline

Okay

[fickle vortex]

do i go 61 for the 4th ability?

[covert condor]

sure but 80 daimon is more valluable as fights that lvl are done by 1v5ing

[fickle vortex]

oh i alr have her at 80

i have like a portion left over

[pale kettle]

Didn’t work :/

[covert condor]

you could also work on ascending mirael saveas and arden to legendary+, in case your daimon cant go past elite for a while. info is in the pinned msgs of #classic-questions channel

[fickle vortex]

with the labriinth store what do i go for

[covert condor]

save for upcoming dimensional then arthur>arthur emblems>wukong

[charred root]

Help pls

[pale kettle]

If tasi isn't doing much you can probably put Lyca back and drop a brutus frontline to stall grez and Shemira

[nimble fossil]

3rd times a charm I guess? Can I please get some help? Just a few suggestions

[mortal mural]

I’ve been stuck on this for about a week, what would you recommend?

[pale kettle]

Hey Phoenix!, Have u tried some of the comps from AFK Helper?

[lost atlas]

I'm trying to do fodder but I have wu Kong and rowan to replace hogan and saveasis does this work, what yall think

[mortal mural]

Afk helper?

[pale kettle]

www.afkhelper.nax.is

It's a website that shows clears done by other people

[mortal mural]

Thank you, didn’t know it existed

[pale kettle]

Well I'm going to go sleep soon but if you need anything else feel free to ask in our Guilds chat or here

[pale kettle]

That should work for that stage I think

[lost atlas]

when i hit 100< i should switch out of fodder?

[pale kettle]

After 100 level up someone like Hogan and reset monke

[lost atlas]

so should i be looking to have 100 hogan, mirael, arden and anyone else?

[pale kettle]

Golus and Silvina too I think

[lost atlas]

should i keep rowan or nah change him out with slivina and golus for wu kong

and change damion with hogan

[mortal mural]

How should I go about this floor?

[storm epoch]

raku can sub for ferael,lucre merc if grez cant tank last team sub hendrik make sure either one has barricade equipped also in r1 eironn may be too flimsy just a heads up

[novel gale]

Any thoughts for this one? Daimon gets banished every time an by the time he wakes up everyone else is dead. Dunno how to interrupt the tasi with her being front row.

[pale kettle]

Stucked pls help

[sick loom]

did you try with ferael

[novel gale]

i have, only at epic+ though, not sure where to place him to land the fear, i had him in back row centre. he helped me clear the other tasi stage i was stuck on yesterday

[sick loom]

just try different positions then, and see which one works

[exotic dew]

Pls help

[elfin rose]

Best overall and balanced Team I can currently build with all my heroes current levels doesn't matter I just decreased them and can put some in the crystal to get all 120-140

[ebon hazel]

Should I change my artifacts st all for this?

[digital skiff]

Let tasi off call maybe so ainz ults faster

[sleek torrent]

I usually use windbinder on ainz, doesn't conflict with call

[ebon hazel]

Takes 3 ults to win though

[sleek torrent]

Usually have the artifacts on albedo and arthur swapped too

[ebon hazel]

What do I replace with

[sleek torrent]

oh yeah, you're not +30 so makes sense, idk then, tasi could go tidebringer?

[ebon hazel]

Is the energy reduction by Raine having call worse than the energy Raine gets from call?

I'd need to take my Tide off of Raine

[sleek torrent]

honestly wouldn't place call on raine most of the time, I think I let her have tidebearer or the other support artifact, but the second one is pretty rare for me

I don't know if you have shroud, but I place that on lyca too

[ebon hazel]

I had tide on Raine, ran out of spacea

[sleek torrent]

mmm well do you need raine for that particular multi stage fight?

[zealous acorn]

any ideas how to beat this one? i checked replays, this is the lineup they had

[ebon hazel]

Izold

[sleek torrent]

izold usually goes carnage

[ebon hazel]

Bruh what

No he doesn't.

Only uses carnage in safe fights

[sleek torrent]

idk what people do, I've used it on him for the last few chapters

[snow sphinx]

Can anyone help? I've been stuck here for 3 days

[sleek torrent]

maybe put shemira and lucius in front, with daimon at the back

[snow sphinx]

Maybe, my Lucius is super tanky, but my shemira will die super fast, I'm thinking once my Brutus is mythic, I'll move him up where my golus is

[sleek torrent]

hmm I see, you could try shemira behind lucius, daimon position 4 and brutus in front of belinda, he should have his shield at legendary

alternatively you could try using gwyneth in position 4, but I'm not sure how much damage she'd do

[snow sphinx]

Haha, I beat it, I moved my shemira to the top backline, and swapped my lucius and golus positions

[exotic dew]

Pls help

[snow sphinx]

This position worked, pretty surprising lol, now I can finally progress 😂

[sleek torrent]

you could try a daimon setup with daimon behind grezhul, rosaline following daimon, tasi and another frontline hero ( mix and match)

[sleek torrent]

ohh nice! yup since your shemira can't tank, it's best to leave her in the back protected by someone like lucius, but as you progress you'll move to different heroes and comps

[snow sphinx]

Well by ascending my brutus to mythic, I'd lose my golus in the process, but honestly it's worth it, Brutus is way stronger

[sleek torrent]

oh definitely, brutus sees quite a lot of use and I'd say he's a bit undervalued right now, try not to invest too much into him though until later cause there are better heroes to spend resources on

[snow sphinx]

Well worst case scenario, I can reset him to lvl1 and get all my resources back, Im not sure which heros to go with later on, the comps get really weird, and I don't own any dimensionals

[sleek torrent]

oh I didn't mean that, you're gonna have to reset the resources for your heroes eventually since you only need five heroes at resonating crystal 240, I meant more of signature item emblems/furniture

[snow sphinx]

Don't even get my started on those lol, my lucius' sig item is lvl22, nemora's is lvl19, and my Shemira's is like lvl8, I got really lucky with the conch event and was able to lvl my items up

[sleek torrent]

ahahaha well don't worry about that, even if they're not really meta it's okay, play as you want, but you may as well get shemira to +10, nemora to +20 and lucius can stay as he is unless you really like him

[snow sphinx]

Lucius will stay where he is for now lol, it's all really expensive, and I want my other heros to be upgraded first so it's a little more balanced

[sleek torrent]

mmm good plan - you'll learn as we all did, so no worries
lotta guides out there on reddit that are really really good and helpful, but take them with a grain of salt as always

[snow sphinx]

Always take it with a grain of salt lol, ik lucius isn't the most powerful healer or tank in the game, but he's definitely strong, Nemora is probably my favorite healer

[smoky anvil]

Any ideas for this stage?

[sleek torrent]

her 9/9 furniture is quite useful too - I think it's more that other heroes tend to be used more often as they're more reliable/consistent/flexible or are just plain stronger at what they do, that's why we have a "meta"

[sleek torrent]

could try brutus and rowan frontline, with daimon, ferael and lyca backline, switch them up a bit

[smoky anvil]

will try that

[night sequoia]

Got Eziz to almost M don't know. Tried mercenary 309 Eziz doesn't work. Wondering if should hop on Zolrath or Athalia.

Eziz comp is dead

[ebon hazel]

Would Ainz or Daimon work better here?

[proven yarrow]

Any clue if i can beat this ?

I had struggles before during progress but like it’s a big stomp right now

[sleek torrent]

think I'd go for ainz over daimon, kelthur and athalia could wipe daimon

[sleek torrent]

no reason you shouldn't be able to, maybe swap desira for lyca and place lyca in front of daimon?

[proven yarrow]

I will try to swap some more arround but it’s getting demolished kinda hard thanks for suggestion tho

[sleek torrent]

You could try leveling some tanky heroes like brutus or golus as a frontline defence, but yeah damage might be an issue if you're relying solely on daimon rn

[proven yarrow]

Thank you ! I will try stuff arround, i don’t have much ressources to play arround atm 🙂

[ebon hazel]

I still have merc open, would it be better to get 309 Ainz or 303 Albedo?

[sleek torrent]

Np! Other alternatives for damage are mirael or saveas
But yeah, part of the fun is figuring what works

[ebon hazel]

Okay but I have like none of those people I just need this one fight

[sleek torrent]

Honestly speaking +30 albedo means more damage overall for ainz comp (not just ainz) and tankier albedo is nice, but 9/9 ainz brings forward his AOE stun/damage to 15 seconds which is great, it's your call, not sure which would be best, prob ainz?

[ebon hazel]

Don't have Lyca open

Thesr artis good?

[sleek torrent]

Looks alright for me

Er could go tidebearer on tasi? Think you mentioned that ainz needed to ult multiple times so would try book on him or call if tasi is switched

[maiden marsh]

Swap arthur and albedo's artifacts, then give ainz warden

[ebon hazel]

Arthur's dying faster now, should I put barricade on both?

[sleek torrent]

I usually place barricade on Arthur, so you could try that

Honestly for your case it might just be an issue of rng

[maiden marsh]

Whatever works best

[ebon hazel]

Is there any better way to take care of Athalia than Brutus?

[maiden marsh]

Dodge tanks are far better, like lyca or ferael

[ebon hazel]

Alna?

[sleek torrent]

Rowan could tank her for a bit, but usually you gotta CC her or kill everyone fast enough before she ramps up

[ebon hazel]

Rowan Lyca and Fareal all in use in teams 2 and 3

Managed to free lyca

[sleek torrent]

could you retry your current comp for a bit longer? Might be rng based, usually I run the comp quite a few times to identify the problems (e.g. might be that your ainz just isn't doing enough damage, everyone's dying too fast, etc.)

[ebon hazel]

Yeah, got a 309 Ainz and 303 Bedo mercs, but Ainz has book

[sleek torrent]

Book is what I usually run on ainz anyways, so you could try that merc, but usually I'd just repeat the fight over and over again with my own ainz (since mercs are precious) unless you think your ainz can't do enough, that's a judgement call

[ebon hazel]

Got it

[sleek torrent]

grats!

[pale kettle]

Im a bit stuck here what can I do to get past it

Don't have anymore resources to upgrade either

[sleek torrent]

maybe try rowan/shemira/rosaline/silas/daimon in order

you could try using nara to grab the mage, or fit prince of persia somewhere in there

[ebon hazel]

Anoki Rowan Rosa Mirael Pop

[pale kettle]

I tried that but they still get murdered @sleek torrent

Nara dies eventually then everyone dies

[sleek torrent]

hmm well maybe a variation on downes' comp, anoki rowan rosa shemira (prince/daimon)

good work on getting anoki to 61 by the way, that unlocks his shield

[pale kettle]

Is my team itself bad?

[shrewd sorrel]

need sum help

[maiden marsh]

Saurus out for nara middle back to hook mehira

[shrewd sorrel]

ight thwnks

[foggy grove]

How do you deal with these 2? I know thoran works but what about the other one?

[pale kettle]

It worked anoki tanked 90k what a goat@sleek torrent

[hardy oriole]

im on the same one

[sleek torrent]

yeah he does well, thank @ebon hazel too for the anoki suggestion!

[maiden marsh]

You can daimon r1, can't remember if alna is required or not

[sleek torrent]

iirc I have a raku/daimon comp that worked, but too a LOT of retries

[pale kettle]

Thanks@ebon hazel

[foggy grove]

I heard something about using ukyo for that stage? Does that still work?

[maiden marsh]

It's not frontline flora so no

Daimon raku does work though

[foggy grove]

Did they change it? Or was it always like this

[maiden marsh]

I don't think it changed

[hardy oriole]

i just cleared it with ainz comp

[foggy grove]

Damn, I don’t have access to that comp

[hardy oriole]

trying daimon/thoran on saecond but not working

[storm epoch]

Alna isnt needed just need someone to survive satrana seeds brutus/rowan may work there i think

[sleek torrent]

I ran rowan/lyca/daimon/mehira/raku, but the number of retries was insane

[hardy oriole]

This is what I'm trying but need to change something

[sleek torrent]

*for r1 btw, I went with estrilda/thoran/talene/lorsan/pippa in r2

[shrewd sorrel]

@maiden marsh thanks lad

[maiden marsh]

[hardy oriole]

i dont have pippa damn

[sleek torrent]

pippa is used for her +20, cause she teleports thoran into the enemy team and gives him time to build up energy

[hardy oriole]

Basically what I'm working with

thoran needs furniture still

[foggy grove]

Hm I ran the same comp and it was pretty easy, took like 6 retries

[maiden marsh]

He needs 30 more lol

[hardy oriole]

lol

[sleek torrent]

I'm at RC 363 and my heroes aren't the best, so I struggled a lot

[hardy oriole]

ive got 7 7/9 or 8/9 units its getting so tedious

[foggy grove]

Oh that makes sense, I’m at 378 lol

[sleek torrent]

yeppp haha

[foggy grove]

What’s estrilda for in r2?

[sleek torrent]

daimon/raku works only when the stars are right lmao

[sleek torrent]

positioning, plus a bit of delay iirc

[pale kettle]

Im stuck again

[sleek torrent]

try shemira anoki, silas, rowan, daimon; could always drag khasos with nara, or maybe swap out silas for rosaline to follow shemira

[foggy grove]

Am I doing this wrong? Thoran dies before ult

[shrewd sorrel]

@hardy oriole

[storm epoch]

do you have ezizh?portal party might work there too thoran just needs to revive with full energy though

[sleek torrent]

hmm I ran warden on pippa instead, might be a haste issue, but it took some retrying for me

[hardy oriole]

yea i hjave ezizh

[pale kettle]

Ima log off and let resources build up everyone getting one shotted@sleek torrent

[sleek torrent]

yep that works! afk arena is an idle game after all, or at least it's supposed to be, just gotta be patient

[foggy grove]

Doesn’t windbinder make ult faster? Also it seems like thoran dying before ult is a consistent thing for me

[sleek torrent]

pippa's ult isn't necessary here, just that she gets her teleport off, you'll have to retry a few times in order to get thoran to ult before dying too

the way I cleared it was that thoran's first ult cleared everyone except rowan and flora, thoran and talene bonked rowan and then they finished off flora

[vivid scaffold]

Do you guys have any ideas how to beat that?

I've tried to Thoran cheese it, but indeed Brutus remains at the end and it does not work so far (50 tries).

I also tried with a Brutus Lyca Ferael Rowan Daimon, 100 tries roughly, pretty poor results and never really close to winning.

Thanks 🙂

[sleek torrent]

show your box please

I'd avoid using daimon against nemora, it can work but usually it takes a lot of effort for me

[maiden marsh]

Rowan lyca tasi ferael daimon

[vivid scaffold]

Daimon and Rowan on different sides of the battlefield?

He's not gonna get the pot, does he?

[sleek torrent]

I think the key is keeping the others alive so that daimon can ult and do more damage to ramp up

at least that's how I think it works, I've done that before (not placing daimon next to rowan)

[white cliff]

Ideas?

[turbid geyser]

Any ideas for a good line up ? Thanks !

[sleek torrent]

it's a bit hard honestly, because a good lineup depends on what the enemy lineup looks like, and what your win condition is like

[white cliff]

put some heros in the crystal like lyca that can help ur main carry

[sleek torrent]

a generic lineup could look something like rowan/brutus/daimon/numisu/tasi

[sleek torrent]

trying to clear with izold would take quite a bit of retries since rng, but you can try replacing silas with tasi?

[white cliff]

lemme try rq

definetly surivives longer but not long enough for izold to get a ult

rng time i guess 🥴

[sleek torrent]

artifacts? yeah, rng too

[white cliff]

drape on izold and eye on tasi, rowan dura call

[turbid geyser]

This is where i’m stuck

[white cliff]

maybe ill slap eye on rowan too

[sleek torrent]

hmm do you have any class artifacts? maybe call on izold (remove call from everyone else) for him to ult faster

does rowan usually get his ult off before he dies?

[white cliff]

No class artifacts and rowan doesnt ult in time

lemme try with call rq

[sleek torrent]

then may as well use another artifact on him, I forgot the exact stats but maybe something that gives him more survivability

[white cliff]

the chalice maybe

nvm youre a genius, call worked perfectly

thanks

[sleek torrent]

hmm maybe brutus/rowan/daimon/numisu/tasi? win condition is to make daimon survive as long as possible, so try switching daimon/brutus/rowan's positions around, but looks like it'd take quite a few retries, so don't give up on one particular formation just after a few

[sleek torrent]

npnp!

[turbid geyser]

I’ll try that

[formal mason]

I just get rolled in 2 seconds please help

[old trail]

Grezhul or Daimon as a tank?

Which one better

[vivid scaffold]

In which context?

[coral pasture]

I’ve been stuck on here for 6 days

[humble apex]

Reset Shem, level daimon to 240, use Brutus lyca daimon rowan Tasi and mess around with the positioning

Oh nvm he’s m+, Tasi Brutus daimon rowan ainz if you have good enough gear for Tasi

[coral pasture]

It didn’t work

[rustic oxide]

I just want to move on

[hollow hatch]

5 pull Luc it

and level up abougt 40 times

[rustic oxide]

Im using Luc on R1

[hollow hatch]

okay but for real, you have like 3 options. Thorn, Alna Grez Daimon, or some Raku Daimon black magic

[mortal prawn]

Its flora at 150 level deficit and SIs just introduced. This is what being stuck is like.

Probably thoran

[rustic oxide]

Alna and Daimon are already being used

@mortal prawn I been using 3 dif Thoran comps for the past 2 days.... no go so far

[hollow hatch]

thoran it or rework you teams

[nocturne furnace]

u have an alna gb clear for 36-16 Phoenix?

[hollow hatch]

sounds like you're putting a lot into all the non flora (read not hardest) stage

[rustic oxide]

Thats the thing... I been using Thoran for the past 2 days.... 😭

[hollow hatch]

uhh Truth had one, I just 5 pull Lucretia'd it with an M+ Luc

lol

I should be able to find the clear give me a sec

[rustic oxide]

if I can clear R1 without a merc then Ill Luc R3.... back to the drawing board

[charred ermine]

So you basically need to build either a good alna or thoran in order to pass single/double flora rounds?

[nocturne furnace]

yes

or just overlevel and ainz it, thats what i did for 35-16

[rustic oxide]

Trying to stay in top 10 on my server... waiting around is going to cost me

[hollow hatch]

@nocturne furnace

[pale kettle]

any tips/advice for this stage?

[hollow hatch]

Raku Daimon can also take down a flora

[hollow hatch]

don't use E+ Eironn and Safiya

[nocturne furnace]

chaos wasteband shrroud call call? for atifacts

[pale kettle]

i mean i cant really use anyone else, my silas is just eye candy he cant really do much and ive tried with rowan without any success and saf is just there to get her pyramid up. anyone else in that slot gets deleted by vurk

[exotic dew]

Pls help

[maiden marsh]

chaos barricade shroud call call

[pale kettle]

Greetings, all.
I'm in chapter 5 and wonder what is the best team I can make going forward?
Thank you.

[dusky sage]

Is it best to finish heroes or try getting more ascended?

[maiden marsh]

Stop starhunting, gives minimal stats. Focus on ascending more heroes so you aren't RC capped, which btw, should never happen. Swap shemira to someone useful like raku with the swap scroll as well.

[narrow lark]

Account is mega doomed

[dusky sage]

So would Raku be the best to swap for shemira?

[maiden marsh]

In your case, either raku or rowan

[ebon hazel]

Is there any way to set up a Daimon?

[rare latch]

Yo how should I go about this?

[nocturne furnace]

was it a lot of retries? or kinda normal

[maiden marsh]

Like 20 retries, might have been a fluke though

[nocturne furnace]

hmmm ill keep tryin but pretty as soon as 1 dies they all die

[odd basin]

When wukongs damage starts to fall off who should I build

[maiden marsh]

OH i forgot, take one furniture off of ferael if he's 9F, and give him no weapon

[nocturne furnace]

thats a faster fear than 9f?

[maiden marsh]

Yep

[maiden marsh]

Mirael

[odd basin]

@maiden marsh I thought she was fodder?

[maiden marsh]

She's your best carry option for now, and won't be capped until 160

[odd basin]

Okay

When I get past that can I use theowyn?

[maiden marsh]

After that you'll have a few options, stuff like daimon or oden or kren

[nocturne furnace]

aight alna doesnt get onetapped anymore buh same thing still happens

[rain knoll]

Would anyone mind telling me who I should upgrade? I just came back to the game and I'm pretty lost

[manic kestrel]

Hello everyone, I'm ChristianTDD and I have made it to Chapter 17, Level 19, and I am struggling with this part. Any suggestions here?

[pale kettle]

Try Estrilda Brutus frontline if you have that option avaliable, Belinda and nara for the isabella, the last slot idk aslo you should read pins in #classic-questions when u get some time

[inland field]

need help buldind 3 teams

[manic kestrel]

@pale kettle Thanks. Guess I got a lot of grinding to do

[vivid trellis]

Any help clearing this fight? Been on it for long enough to get the free upgrade stone/mythic gear but even with merc still stuck.

[woven mason]

what can I do against this? thoran doesn t let nara to pull mehira

[ripe flax]

this is impossible... any tips?

[narrow lark]

Remove Izold and throw in Ferael or Oden

[spark venture]

Any suggestions?

[storm epoch]

reset those excess heroes peggy,thane etc whole row after ferael pour that into antandra/estrilda as for the setup estrilda brutus antandra rowan tasi

[spark venture]

Thanks

[storm epoch]

save that niru to feed into daimon btw no one else should come 1st imo for gb

[ebon hazel]

Alright I'm in a bit of trouble, Ainz ult is only doing ~10% of everyone's health

[maiden marsh]

Yeah that'll happen without ainzbedo 30

[ebon hazel]

I can tell

[uneven tide]

Need help with 21-60

[summer owl]

Just opened Twisted Realm. Thoughts on lineup for Kane?

[maiden marsh]

you can copy lineups from the leaderboard as best as you can

[summer owl]

Seeing a lot of Talene and Twins in there. :/

[dull bay]

twins is in every one of them iirc... if not almost every one. twins are very good.

also, idk if you have it, but try mercing a talene

[summer owl]

I have guildmates with both, and a couple of meh mercs. I'll see if I can grab them.

[late glen]

Any line up that can get me 32 in field of stone? :/ all guides use saurus SI30

[pale kettle]

I die in like two seconds plz help

[pale kettle]

You should probably read pins in #classic-questions but for this specific stage since you don't have a Nara you might have to reset Thane and level up Silvina to counter the Isabella

[uneven tide]

not working 😦 Been resetting for nearly 40 minutes

[pale kettle]

That stage is notoriously hard imo, keep retrying and eventually you will win, took me close to 3h to get that

[uneven tide]

I don't think it's with that comp tho. Nara and Lyca are quite literally useless, they just don't live.

Nara has died instantly in every attempt for the last 40 minutes 😂

[pale kettle]

No one lives except Daimon I'm assuming, Nara is there to stall and Lyca is there for the haste

[uneven tide]

I'll keep giving it a go

[frozen stream]

Which comp shoulsd I go for after all the fodders?

[pale kettle]

Too early to tell now, for now just keep leveling fodder

[frozen stream]

a bit sad because im stuck on 9-20, but sure

[pale kettle]

Post the lineup for 9-20

[storm epoch]

u can try switching brutus to rowan side daimon needs call nara just good gear even elite theres a chance rosa subs for lyca but with the downside of roots from arden early

[pale kettle]

Mirael should be back (mid ideally but not always possible), drop raku for a Silvina since u don't have a Nara I think

[uneven tide]

swapped brutus and gave daimon call, will try that for a bit

[frozen stream]

I will try that, thanks

would you know any good comps using Eironn or Gwyneth as main carry? my friends wanted to know, just an idea

[pale kettle]

Gwenneth can work as a carry with like Rosa and Hendricks/Arthur but she falls off towards late game, Eerion can work as a carry in 5 pull but he also stops working as a carry towards late game for most people but he's still in 5 pull. I suggest they look at Arty's Endgame PvE guide on Reddit for full details

[frozen stream]

alright, I will send that to them

[uneven tide]

any idea to deal with nemora's healing? seems thats my biggest issue

[storm epoch]

ig just extra cc though you might proc tasi teleport tons :/ if u can manage with just rowan tanks lyca frontline sub tasi/ferael

[charred ermine]

If she doesnt die fast, silvana is a surprisingly good counter since her ult also reduces enemies' energy by half

Just gotta time it right manually tho

Oh wait i tagged the wrong person. My bad

[weak wedge]

Can somebody please help with my lineup? What should i focus on?

[boreal river]

any help is much appreciated

[maiden marsh]

Don't frontline daimon here, both hendrick and estrilda stun him

[boreal river]

@maiden marsh my closest to success is:
ferael
brutus
eironn
rowan
daimon
but its still not quite enough to win

[maiden marsh]

Swap daimon to the other side of the formation

[boreal river]

still no dice :\

[maiden marsh]

Try changing oden for lyca

[lunar gulch]

I tried to swapped brutus and fareal with talene lyca nara raku pipa but i cant win this. Struggling for a week.
Daimon having si20 , ainz unlocked si , rowan si20. Help me

[boreal river]

ferael
brutus
rowan
daimon
nara

if you have oden maybe even switch ferael for oden

u basically want nara to pull isabella and kill her asap by having oden port away the scythe guy and have daimon hitting isabella as well

[lavish belfry]

I just started playing and is my lineup good?

pls....

[twilit turtle]

Help with the level

[lunar gulch]

Its better than my last game. But oden port away grezhul onto fareal . So cant win . Any ideas ? You wanna send me the video of the match ?

[lunar gulch]

Not the best one

[lavish belfry]

what can i improve @lunar gulch

[lunar gulch]

You can try with daimon kren lucius gwen estrilda . Try lucius and daimon on front , kren on back mid

[lunar gulch]

Leofric its time limited , you cant depend on him

[lavish belfry]

ok

[boreal river]

Just rotate your pieces around until you can have Nara pull Isabella and daimon also hit Isabella so you kill her before she ults no need to send any video lol

[lunar gulch]

Got your point. But daimon is focusing front line only. Can move grezhul and target shemira with daimon but cant move niru . Im doomed

[maiden vapor]

Could someone help with this stage

[boreal river]

Bro put oden on and try rowan front line next to daimon or daimon in back middle until he hits Isabella lol ur not trying enough formations...

[lunar gulch]

Sorry to disappoint you. I tried rowan front line and daimon as mid . That case also daimon going for niru (front line ) . Before the nara pull into my side , daimon start attacking Niru front line.

[lunar gulch]

Even though ainz use ult . That will do no damage because grezhul stole ainz damage

[boreal river]

You need oden to teleport

[lunar gulch]

Oden only teleport the highest amount of health. That is grezhul

[maiden vapor]

i usually kill grezhul with first ult, usually the problem is that silas doesnt get ult if that happens tho

[boreal river]

You don’t need ainz daimon is ur carry, if you switch your heroes around oden will teleport niru

[lunar gulch]

I think if your ainz ult without losing his dmg to grezhul , he can wipe more

[lunar gulch]

Oden teleport highest enemy health , that is grezhul . It wont change whatever I change my hero rite ? And also im not using ainz , im using as you suggested . Whatever i do and where ever i place oden , he teleport Grezhul only. I cant make him teleport niru.

[digital skiff]

Lvl monke to 100 and he'll do Better

[digital skiff]

Lyca
Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Nara

[fading coral]

what should my team be? daimon carry

[timid seal]

Im some how stuck on stage 22 but ive seen people with legendary units make it past me.

[karmic shore]

wins are also based on rng, it may take a few tries with the same team to win

[timid seal]

Is fawkes a good carry? I keep getting him in my roles.

[nocturne furnace]

fawkes is a niche support primarily used in lb tower. not a carry

[timid seal]

So i should rely more on my shemira?

[nocturne furnace]

from what u have yeah, change your wishlist to the one in the pins of #classic-questions also read through those pins and stop making legendary heroes if u can go L+

[cosmic saddle]

Tips on what to use there? I can't really stand Ezizh+Athalia+Brutus at the same time with the comp I'm using right now

[maiden marsh]

Check https://afkhelper.nax.is/

There are many successful clears with similar boxes

[jade shore]

Any tips on how to counter Kaz's dodge

[main orbit]

Brutus has an ability to make enemies unable to dodge i think

Also read pins in #classic-questions, dont make heroes L if you cant make em L+

[jade shore]

Dude that L tasi was from the beginning of my account

I need to get her M

But yeah didnt make the mistake other than with tasi

[jade shore]

Yo wait u from libya

[main orbit]

Yeah

[jade shore]

A fellow libyan, I'm in libya rn just went

[main orbit]

Sorry didnt know you knew already, ig just try brutus if he has roar at level 3

[jade shore]

He is at E+ level 160

Cus of crystal

[main orbit]

I think thats enough, try it to counter kaz

[jade shore]

Ok hopefully it works

Ainz destroys all of em expect kaz

[main orbit]

Maybe try a bit more, sometimes rng wins you a battle, and you might get lucky and hit kaz, also does brutus have roar at level 3?

[smoky anvil]

Any tips for this stage? Getting pretty hard to push

[shy pagoda]

Any ideas?

[dense moth]

https://gyazo.com/44025b345318bb37439c566cf65d9c49

[jade shore]

When I get Ainz si to +10 I doubt I'll have a problem with the stage

[dreamy drum]

Guys please help me im stuck

[prime plaza]

Any ideas?

[wheat gate]

Someone help please

[deep ocean]

need some help on an decent team im coming up to chapter 8 and im going against more legendary heros since i only own 2

[summer cedar]

brutus and alna and arden, amongst others, reduce enemy DODGE. INT ignore DODGE stat. problem is Kaz has a skill that guarantees dodge every so often.

[jade shore]

Yeah I got that stage

[summer cedar]

have u tried the site?

[jade shore]

I put brutus in front of the kaz and added tasi instead of lyca

[prime plaza]

@summer cedar yea but the teams the recc there are same are replays, idk why my team gets Insta wiped. Do I have wrong artifacts?

[rustic oxide]

Any thoughts?!?

[maiden marsh]

arthur alna ainz albedo ezizh

swap them until ezizh is first to die and alna gets immune off

[summer cedar]

not sure, I haven't pushed in a bit so I'm only on 389. nara needs t1 5* boots. I imagine it's barricade call shroud flex flex. barricade shud proc on izold.

[rustic oxide]

cool cool, I was fiddling around with something like that. Let me see what I can do

[summer cedar]

level mira as high as u can. ignore shem, level arden ankhira saveas ira when the game says mira is maxed. try skreg thoran arden mira rowan.

[rustic oxide]

lol 100% win rate he says....

[maiden marsh]

[summer cedar]

shit deficit tho cuz all dem nerfs

[wheat gate]

h e l p

[rustic oxide]

@maiden marsh your on some other level. Dude, you need to write down your thoughts when it comes to forming comps... in less then 5 tries only Keuth(sp) was left.... so give it another 5 or so minutes of retries it should work.

[maiden marsh]

[summer cedar]

I'd suggest nara over shem here. shud disrupt nemora charm. all wilders is annoying af tho.

[jade shore]

Somebody help those two isas are annoying as shit

[wheat gate]

I tried that but I got completely destroyed lol

[summer cedar]

gorvo do be like that.

[jade shore]

I need the diamonds for the 10 pull, guaranteed elite

[wheat gate]

Pepe hands

I thought about using torne as food to get thoran to A

[summer cedar]

Brutus luci ainz rowan arden/nara might work.

[jade shore]

In that order right

[summer cedar]

yeah

[jade shore]

Ok ima try

[wheat gate]

Would you say its worth using torne as food to get thoran A?

[jade shore]

Swapped rowan with lyca for the haste and it worked

Guaranteed elite here I come

[summer cedar]

I'd say thoran is worth getting A but you shouldn't be building for tower if that's your main concern.

[wheat gate]

I also use him for campaign with daimon

But atm stuck here tried different comps but still stuck

[tired wolf]

Help for a noob? What should I be leveling, what comp should I run, etc. any help appreciated!!!

[silent shore]

I am also a fellow noob dude (day 3 lets go) - I use raku a lot and he is crazy good probably one of the best distance-based heroes. Rowan is apparantly insane with support and healing as well

[main orbit]

#classic-questions

Read pins there

[ebon hazel]

So is anyone able to make a Daimon comp out of these guys?

[maiden marsh]

daimon tasi thoran brutus oden should be serviceable

[ebon hazel]

Set up like this?

[silent shore]

Suggestions on good lineups? I was recommended using a lot of support with Daimon

[dreamy drum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/568025210498842633/850058623480365116/unknown.png?width=513&height=754 im very stuck on this stage

[honest storm]

Any idea? They die so fast

[nocturne juniper]

Can someone help me pick my units for my lineup? (Rowan stays)

[sleek torrent]

lineups can be very different depending on the enemies, so if you're stuck at a particular stage, do screenshot it

[sleek torrent]

maybe try tasi instead of rosaline, shift tasi and lyca around, could also go with silvina instead of arden

[sleek torrent]

replacing thoran with grezhul might help, but that's a pretty bursty enemy lineup so might need more levels, if retrying doesn't work

[sleek torrent]

lineups can be very different depending on the enemies, so if you're stuck at a particular stage, do screenshot it, but yeah, using supports (like rowan) with a tanky backline works for daimon

[ebon hazel]

Generally that low use Mirael Lyca Arden and some tanks

[honest storm]

Thanks, worked

[sleek torrent]

np!

[honest storm]

Any idea on that one maybe?

[sleek torrent]

not sure if replacing arden with rosaline would work, but worth a try if arden can root estrilda

[silent shore]

I’m stuck at this stage and I’ve tried putting Rowan in the front to bait assassin but even w the best RNG I can only get like 4/5 enemies

[honest storm]

😍

[summer cedar]

When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool

[sleek torrent]

maybe shemira/thoran in front, daimon/rowan/raku at the back, could also replace daimon with lyca, frontline/backline nemora maybe but idk if she can heal enough

[sleek torrent]

sady sent it just now lmao

[summer cedar]

that's not a hero pool. that's a stage. only seeing 10-15 heroes is not enough information.

[silent shore]

I've tried but Shemira gets straight up 1 tapped every round. I use Daimon as my tank along with Thorin and he absorbs hella but rowan dies instantly as well

[sleek torrent]

#lineup-help message

[summer cedar]

daimon isn't really gonna frontline here. try the site, but I recommend more stall like brutus

[sleek torrent]

ok maybe daimon in front then, if he can absorb a lot of damage? could put him and thoran in front then, with rowan in the centre and shemira replacing rosaline

[honest storm]

That's it @summer cedar

[summer cedar]

mira carry. read the pins.

[silent shore]

Is it better to replace Raku with Lyca? Ppl keep saying that Raku isn't crazy in the beginning but I have him at legendary and lyca only epic

[sleek torrent]

Raku's signature item at +30 is what makes him amazing later on, he can still work but lyca's initial haste buff would probably be more beneficial early game, I think

[summer cedar]

reset shem and saurus. run wu luci lyca rowan daimon.

[summer cedar]

sry was just catching up

[sleek torrent]

np haha

[summer cedar]

who's tasi banishing?

[summer cedar]

raku is a future consideration. mira is far superior. read the pins in #classic-questions
even so, rowan in that position doesn't heal raku. shud fix that.

[white cliff]

Ideas?

[honest storm]

The girl on the horse

[white cliff]

Anything up top gets erased by eirron

[sleek torrent]

box please, do read the pinned messages

[pale kettle]

you could try your own eerion and see if that helps

[summer cedar]

and does rosa live to ult (I doubt it)

[honest storm]

Almost all die, except Mirael

[summer cedar]

cool. Ascend the golus like we discussed. try Golus lyca rowan mira arden.

also 2x power is about as high as mirael can push, give or take. few others can match that, if any. that said, getting a brutus or arden to lvl 141 is a huge help.

[crude plank]

Any point in building shemira or can I just use her as fodder lol?

[summer cedar]

#classic-questions

[honest storm]

Well, even with golus on l+ it doesn't work.
Time to wait and get mirael to 160 and arden to 141

[summer cedar]

that's fine. was it closer? sometimes patience is needed this is an afk game.

[honest storm]

No, mirael wasn't able to use her ult

[silent shore]

What kind of lineup would you recommend then, specifically for this level as the assassin kills my mages in like 1-2 seconds in? Additionally, how would that work as both Daimon and Mira are good carries. Who would I replace?

[summer cedar]

then try original lineup with arden over rosa. before mythic rosa offers nothing if she doesn't ult.

[summer cedar]

daimon isn't a carry until mythic - just secondary dps and semi-tank till then.

[silent shore]

So how would I counter this level?

[rustic oxide]

That time again.

Looks like the solution is 5-pull however my 5-pull has not been working for some time now

[maiden marsh]

got brutus left?

[rustic oxide]

Yes, I got brutus

[summer cedar]

a high level mirael. rowan in front doesn't bait anything - silvina always hits the lowest defense INT hero no matter position.
thoran daimon lyca mira rowan might work.

[maiden marsh]

try tidus brutus joker raku lyca

[rustic oxide]

my man

[maiden marsh]

if tidus doesn't work, try brutus joker numisu raku lyca

[rustic oxide]

yah tidus, joker, raku instant die on the first comp

[maiden marsh]

i'm trying to be cheeky with middle back raku since he won't get pulled

[rustic oxide]

nah, 2nd comp worse then the 1st

[maiden marsh]

[rustic oxide]

mhmmm

already use my 2 mercs.... let me work on this for a bit. Might need to tweak r1 comp to free up some support heroes

[maiden marsh]

try 5 pull raku or something dumb like that

[rustic oxide]

haha I was

so 5-pull raku is a solution... guess I over looked it. Let me play with it and Ill let you know

[maiden marsh]

try letting raku get linked since he won't be stunned when the other linked dude is killed

[rustic oxide]

👍

[next pelican]

hey guys. which heroes do work well with safiya? i only find late game comps/guides for her not for early game.

[sleek torrent]

would be better if you asked in #classic-questions , but honestly I think having tanky heroes + support to distract enemies long enough for her to ult is nice, or someone like eironn or nara to drag them into her field for the debuff

[next pelican]

okay, thanks for the fast answer

[sleek torrent]

heroes that change the enemies' position like athalia or kelthur work well for that too, bonus points if the other heroes bunch the enemies up so that safiya's ult can hit all of them, like skriath

[next pelican]

i like eironn a lot, but i dont have enough copies to lvl him up to 160. and with lvl 120 after his pull he and the rest of 120 get oneshotted 😦 - skriath could work better, didnt use him in a while. i was already lucky with some celepogians (or how they are named) but athalia wasnt with them. same goes for kelthur.

[sleek torrent]

yeah, when you're new and in early game you'll have to figure out what you can do with the heroes you get, mirael would work as an alternative carry, and shemira too (but don't invest too much in shemira, since she falls off quite early), right now it might be that you need more tanky heroes like hogan as frontline

don't worry about it, the longer you play, the more heroes you'll get and the better they'll become, just gotta be patient and figure out how heroes interact with each other

[timid seal]

Could i get some help making a lineup? The units im using currently arent helping me progress that well

[sleek torrent]

if you're looking for general advice like that #classic-questions would be better, but post your current stage that you're stuck at and I can help out

[timid seal]

22-60

[sleek torrent]

I'd say don't invest any more resources/summon more copies into gorvo, lucius, shemira, raine and fawkes, work on getting rowan to +30, tasi to +20, lyca to +20
ascend heroes like eironn or daimon
edit: oh, and get raine 3 furniture, that's basically all she needs to work well

[sleek torrent]

do take a screenshot of the stage next time (it's one of the things mentioned in the pinned messages), but maybe try lucius/shemira/tasi/brutus (to tank athalia)/rowan

[honest storm]

Any idea maybe? 😄

[rustic oxide]

@maiden marsh I was able to tweak r1 and was able to free up Grez whos 209. Does that change anything for the r3 comp? Im also using Tasi for r1 but MAYBE I can squeez her out if you think that will help.

#lineup-help message
I used Izold for r1

[mossy ledge]

Who would beat King's Tower 500?

[maiden marsh]

you could try grez carry with as much cc as you can fit + lyca

[rustic oxide]

shoot.... Maybe try to get Izold rolling in r3, ehhh

[summer oyster]

@mossy ledge try Arthur/Albedo on front and Rosa/Rowan/Ainz on the back line.

Better yet switch Rosa for Ferreal

[nimble fossil]

What can I do here? This is starting to become infuriating

[covert kite]

Hello guys, I've started the game 2 days ago. I like to play the strongest and/or "meta" character on most on my games. I'd like to find a line-up that could rush some chapters. Currently I just entered chapter 7. Could you tell me what should I use ?

[maiden marsh]

Daimon daimon and more daimon. Thus, all faction scrolls to graveborn. Past that, check out the pins in #classic-questions for stuff like wishlist and earlygame advice.

[covert kite]

Yeah Daimon was working well, I read about it. Thank you for confirming ! 🙂
Any ideas about the heroes I should use alongside ?(Currently using Daimon/Rowan/Shemira backline and Thoran/Lucius frontline).
I'll check the appropriate channel, thanks for your advices

[maiden marsh]

For now you can use wukong or mirael carry while you amass copies of potential longer term carries

[plush brook]

Whats the best team I can make, been strugling atm

[storm epoch]

pretty sure pippa center has u covered for that Saurus Godcomp build just make sure when ported saurus is targeting both

[nimble fossil]

Can I see a visual? Because I’m kinda lost

[summer cedar]

I used this @nimble fossil . don't claim it's optimal tho.

[pale kettle]

thoran daimon frontline, fera rowan ainz backline worked for me

smol bren comp I came up with myself and requires few resources, might take a few retries though

https://gyazo.com/b6e476eddffe42579df816620d90a128 what should i be doing rn and who is best priority? I started game yesterday

https://gyazo.com/942631e278933a6d6ced2454827cda87

Also I heard Mortas is good from tier list but I don't know if I should level them or if i should reset all my stats and get the lvl 160 things like the guide said

[ocean merlin]

So atm the top 5 I’ve got there are my lineup for pvp & pve and ive noticed that soon, when I complete chap 24 I get a swap scroll and was wondering if I should swap one of those characters out and if so what would be best to swap to?

[pale kettle]

dont swap anything and that kind of question goes in #classic-questions

[hazy hatch]

I tried switching already and I didn’t choose her some people said she wasn’t a food early game hero

[pale kettle]

what, who ever told u that is dum

good lineup?

nara is excellent at hooking enemies and cc ing them but you only need 1 copy of her. You might have to spam retries or drop saurus for a Brutus for that stage @hazy hatch

what?

[pale kettle]

looks decent

[hazy hatch]

Might try Brutus. My damion isn’t surviving either

[pale kettle]

you really want SI 20 for him and he becomes a beast

[hazy hatch]

Yeah I been waiting for more SI gem thingy for him

I have enough gold ones no purples

[hazy hatch]

The vurk and estrilda just demolishes me

[pale kettle]

put Brutus in front of estrilda and idk abt vurk, might have to work around with oden and his portals

[hazy hatch]

The problem is I’m dying before anyone can even ult 😭

[pale kettle]

try daimon backline

[hazy hatch]

I did that and that’s the closest I been I put Rowan front

[pale kettle]

Can anybody please help, I don’t know what to do and I don’t wanna make too many mistakes as a new player

[pale kettle]

ask that in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

keep retrying and eventually you will get it

[hazy hatch]

Got it! Saraus somehow survived and solo

[pale kettle]

grats!

[plush brook]

Could anyone help me with building my teamm

[glad breach]

Who should I use in my team

Just for general use mostly to advance in campaign

[terse forge]

Im kinda confused here, i see wilders are great but i have many lb heroes, who shall i focus on?

[stone kraken]

The heck, I can't post my roster, explicit content can't be posted

Just trying to post my entire character pool and it detects it as explicit

[maiden marsh]

Scribble on it or recrop it

[stone kraken]

How do I beat that stage? Do I need to get something not yet worked on, I'm bad at formation

[half ridge]

anyone got any ideas

Nvm i beat it

[storm epoch]

Tasi lyca can switch positions if banish doesnt work brutus and rowan swap aswell id avoid daimon frontline

[stone kraken]

thanks!, took a few tries but it worked

[ornate rock]

Hello, I just started the game and need help making a party to progress through the campaign.

While browsing through some guides i read that i should not be leveling more than 5 units.

Should i continue raising my high level units (i know i'll be losing the 2 trials) or are some of the level 1's worth raising?

[pale monolith]

Ascend all the Rare tier heros to Elite. This early you can't really build a solid team so read the pins in #classic-questions

[ornate rock]

okay thanks

[ivory pine]

hey! im at. hapter 4 ! who shld i focus on for the best team?

leofric is temp only!

[pale monolith]

Lucius, Hogan - Front row;
Shemira, Numisu, Big shuriken guy - Back row;
Always keep Shemira 40 levels above other heros and read pins in #questions

[ivory pine]

oh okay! tysm!! will do

[haughty plover]

Need some help here

[honest storm]

Will it be helpful to get down the level from Mirael and push Arden to 141 instead?

[willow gull]

Hi guys, can I get some help with making a team for chapter 11 onward? Also am I too underleveled for it?

[old trail]

Where would Eirron be best placed?

[sleek delta]

Any idea how to beat this?

[foggy grove]

Have you tried this?
Feral
Lyca
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

I ran similar line up for single stages, though I use tasi instead of Brutus

[sleek delta]

Thanks man, but I beat the stage with my line up, just need rng

[viral pulsar]

Brutus is Molly-wopping my team

Any help is appreciated.

[rustic oxide]

@viral pulsar Wu Kong should be your carry....

He should be lvl 100 - plug him into whatever hero comp you have and watch him go

[viral pulsar]

Will do

All better, thank you!

[pale kettle]

What should I use in my lineup? New to the game and not sure what’s best

[magic sparrow]

@pale kettle go to the questions channel and look at the pinned messages. there is a beginners guide there

[pale kettle]

Okay thanks

[sleek delta]

Help

[indigo perch]

These are my 2 formations but I feel like something should change

[ebon hazel]

You have no tanks at all

Drop Izold and Shemira, use Brutus and Rowan

Also you're making way to many L tier heros

I'd consider dropping Nara for Arden as well

[silk geode]

What would be a good lineup with the heroes that I have? The 5 highest levels are my current team, Lucretia and Lucius in front

[magic sparrow]

@indigo perch you have too many carries on the field. You also have way to many legendary heroes. You need to save the E+ copies for fodder so you don't get soft locked due to level cap.

I would swap out Izold and Shemira for Rowan and Tasi/Talene (Tasi should banish shemira and rowan + rosaline is an energy battery for Mirael. Nara should clean up any surviving enemies.

@silk geode Your going to get soft locked with your current lineup. You have way to many legendary ascended tier heroes. Currently you are very close to being soft locked due to level cap. Ascend fodder heroes to Legendary + until you can ascend your other heroes. Read the beginner guide in #classic-questions https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565578751715573770/850187524995022858/Guide-204-2.png.

Apart from this your question is vague. Team comp depends on what type of content your doing. Do you not have resonating crystal yet? With your current team I would use Gwyn carry, Lucian and Fawkes and twins. I would reset Lucretia and build spider lady, Ankhira. Her coocoon skill provides good CC. Have you got arden? He has very good CC and I would recommend building him.

[silk geode]

I’m just trying to do the campaign I suppose

[magic sparrow]

Lucretias main strength comes from her SI when she reaches mythic. You wont be able to get another copy of lucretia for a long time

[silk geode]

And yes, I have Arden

[magic sparrow]

For campaign take my advice, build your team around Gywneth. Lucian and Fawkes are good supports for her, and you also get the faction bonus which is nice. Reset lucretia and use her resources to level up a legendary tier hero, such as arden.

[silk geode]

Alrighty

[maiden marsh]

my advice, stop scrolling lightbearer and start scrolling graveborn. your options are far better in that faction, both for carries and supports

[magic sparrow]

I haven't used Ankhira but you should level her up to her level cap.

Also @silk geode Tru7h offers great advice. LB faction isn't great. At your stage its ok, you will get lots of light bringer heroes but they fall off as you progress. I wouldn't waste resources attempting to focus this faction. (Aka faction scrolls, challenger store coins, lab coins etc. If the game gives you light bringers its ok to use them). GB is objectively the best faction to focus, but you can also choose wilders if you hate graveborns.

[indigo perch]

This worked so well thank you

[wet lintel]

hello i need help clearing a double shemira thoran stage?

my id is 112755203

[pale kettle]

send a picture of the stage and all your heros

[deep ocean]

help

[wet lintel]

please i need help

[pale kettle]

you will probably need to restart, no way around it unfortunately

or maybe merc a fully built ainz

[pale kettle]

can you try thoran brutus frontline, silas eerion Daimon backline?

[steep ice]

Daimon doesn't survive long enough to start casting his ulti

[deep ocean]

can anyone help please

[carmine crag]

Brutal Citadel 279, stuck as hell

[rich onyx]

Advice/help please just started , please give some tips as well

[honest storm]

Any idea? Got overrunned on both... 😩

[carmine crag]

Izold and Rowan are decent heroes to focus on for now, until you get more copies to decide what to do long term

[rich onyx]

Thank you will they be good long term as well ?@carmine crag

[carmine crag]

They're two of the best heroes in the game, at the moment

[rich onyx]

Ok thank you

[shut bluff]

Any advice to get my daimon team working ? On battle 3 of 3 so scraping the barrel abit with hero selection 😦

[rich sand]

Am I focusing well, or should I transfer more focus to others?

[vivid scaffold]

Is it your whole box? I'd remove Brutus, put Thoran frontline and add a cc or debuff support in backline

[pale kettle]

Need help, can’t beat this stage

[carmine crag]

Brutal citadel 279, I'm very stuck.

[tender pulsar]

Hey all! Pretty new to the game and have been experimenting with many different lineups. I've gone through the beginner's guide, but looking to incorporate what I have here to plow through the story. Any ideas? Absolutely enjoying daimon and rowan atm

[sullen lance]

Can someone help me with this one? Any carry I try to use gets ulti-locked then butchered