lineup-help

[elfin rose]

Nope still doesn't work

She and lyca can't even get a ult of before death

[spare robin]

They don't need to, you're banking on mirael to carry by chaining her ults and mop the floor

[elfin rose]

Yeah but all of them are immune for some reason

[spare robin]

Getting her ascended and overlevelled will help you a LOT

[elfin rose]

Her ult is doing nothing it just says immune

But not with Gwyneth tho 😕

[spare robin]

Nobody on that team should be immune, Brutus will be when he has his golden bubble up, but everyone else should take damage from it

[frosty gazelle]

How did you guys beat Mauler 340? I really want those stargazing cards.

[elfin rose]

@frosty gazelle I can't even beat 8-36 lmao gl with your lvl 481 stuff hahahah @spare robin Niru just survives her ult easy

[frosty gazelle]

:(

[shy pagoda]

Not going very well, I may be stuck here a while 😂

[elfin rose]

@shy pagoda yeah me too lmao

[honest storm]

Any idea?

[wide whale]

Plz help

[daring kayak]

I don't have Lucrezia/dimensionals.

[daring kayak]

Remove merael and put daimon, but at 5° and arden 4°

[daring kayak]

Grezhul tasi lyca rowan daimon.

[royal laurel]

Which hero should I be looking at focusing on here?

[spare robin]

None yet, just keep building fodder, and wait for more copies before you commit to anyone

[wide whale]

Doesn't work

[royal laurel]

Ok

[untold quiver]

I would only focus on heroes that you can get to at least legendary plus first.

[vivid scaffold]

300+ tries on this level. Do you know which Merc I could take and which compo to beat that? :/

[pale kettle]

Anyone know what I can do about these guys?

[brave oriole]

No offense, but you need badly to read some game guides. There's a lot of mistakes in your hero box

[drowsy locust]

Hello, can someone suggest me how to beat that Mehira

[brave oriole]

If you pull with eironn without safiya, it's pure suicide

[drowsy locust]

safiya not much of a help there, i tried)

[brave oriole]

Yeah, then use nara, instead of eironn, and Brutus instead of thoran, see how's working

Eironn without lyca haste it's slow at all.

[storm epoch]

try this not sure what youre working with since roster wasnt shown

[daring kayak]

I don't have Alina +9/9 +30.

[storm epoch]

thoran pippa then?i dont remember if it was safe to use gwyn in any of these daimon works against flora too

[daring kayak]

The problem Is that all ppl use or Lucrezia or dims team.

[daring kayak]

And, what's Ur lvl here?

[storm epoch]

ill try and check did some rc lvling soon 400 if not ill ask a friend for screenshots

[daring kayak]

My lvls Is 387, and i don't have Lucrezia, all celes/hypoges/dims.
Just athalia and Talene M and Twins A 9/9 +30.

[storm epoch]

id say maybe try izold last set shift daimon against set 2 pair him in either godcomp subbing ezizh or behind brutus

[wintry robin]

Any ideas here? This is my best option, I get so close to the second ainz ult but every time he gets killed right before. And I can’t put him in front of Brutus Bc he gets shredded by the saveaus

[pale kettle]

could you switch lyca and ainz?

[wintry robin]

I’ll send a video

[umbral tinsel]

I m New to this Game... can so help me if this comb should be changed?! Thanks

[low idol]

Hey guys! Any ideas what I can do?

[pale kettle]

it looks alright so far but read pins in #classic-questions

[smoky anvil]

Anyone?

[open kernel]

Already at a huge deficit, focus on getting RC to 240

[glad acorn]

So close to 21 help please

22*

[smoky anvil]

really? thought with daimon at 240 could get to like chap 29

[digital skiff]

He alone? He can't. Needs 240 support and good investments to reach 29/30 with a 100 deficit

[warm bison]

Light tower floor 200, any help?

[drifting atlas]

ToG, how do i deal with theo?

[pale kettle]

What the hell should I do ?

[rose stream]

Hello, any suggestion on this stage, i tried different set up but i can’t pass it. Thank you.

[pale kettle]

https://preview.redd.it/t0ow31wy7g071.jpg?width=1658&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac5008048c2c082c47f9a162a34f5ed1220d23af

[red juniper]

Spain. Please help

Numisu and Rowan are 180, eirron 200, the rest 160

[pale kettle]

switch eluard for brutus?

[next prairie]

Anyone got an idea

[pale kettle]

try switching shemira and nemora

[red juniper]

same effect, bottom 2/3 die, and brutus cleans up eirron, neither eluard nor brutus last long enough

[pale kettle]

dang maybe try errion in back mid and see if that changes anything

[red juniper]

they all die and get no kills

[next prairie]

Dodnt wprk

[pale kettle]

dang idk then, not too sure how errion or shemira carries work but you guys can try afkhelper.naxis and see if there are any solutions there

[next prairie]

Nvm got it, switched shem and lecofic

[pale kettle]

any tips?

that stage was a massive pain, I think you would need some really op rng or a merc to beat that, maybe try daimon instead of lyca though and it might be a bit better

[next prairie]

Any ideas?

[woven mason]

tasi instead nemora?

[woven mason]

well you just need to boost daymon SI till 20 and it will go easier then shem

[sharp fulcrum]

gotta get daimon to last long enough to pop off ults but ira wipes him out, any advice for buying him time?

[next prairie]

mhmm almost so close

[woven mason]

daymon isn t good before 20 SI. Don t hope he ll carry your game

[pale kettle]

thank you dude

[maiden marsh]

daimon is still quite solid before M+20

[woven mason]

and shem needs 161 to carry

[sharp fulcrum]

i just used what the game gave me

but do you think there is anything i could do to get that ira dead?

[woven mason]

did you fodder ascended heroes as well?

[sharp fulcrum]

not on this alt account

did it a couple times on mymain in the beginning

[woven mason]

that sentence stopped my heart, that s why I had to ask XD

[sharp fulcrum]

oh yeah?

sorry for almost taking you out lol

[woven mason]

probably nara would help you with ira

[sharp fulcrum]

lemme post my hero pool

[woven mason]

btw don t you have a little too many L heroes? why didn t you ascend fodder heroes?

[sharp fulcrum]

not sure, just tried to get some heroes to push me further in the campaign but ended up getting screwed by resources and wilder fights

[next prairie]

Anyone can help? cant make thro this

[woven mason]

yea, maybe you should wait a bit and ascend only fodder but you ll be okey. I didn t have M shem at this stage so I can t tell you for sure but you could try with mirael and see if that works better

[sharp fulcrum]

sounds good, thanks man!

[woven mason]

your alna is useless in frontline bcs she can t get immunity

[next prairie]

my hereos are in the picture, anything else u may think i can use?

[woven mason]

you don t have brutus?

[next prairie]

i do but.. he is elite only

[woven mason]

he still gets immunity

I m using E brutus as well

[next prairie]

he just instetnly died and all of my team in 2 secs

[woven mason]

ah you re still low level XD

[next prairie]

maybe if i level my estrilda a bit i can make it?

[woven mason]

what is level of your brutus?

[next prairie]

Resonating crystal level 140

thats what i got on her rn, as u can see im poor, with only 40k xp

[woven mason]

You need 141 brutus

[next prairie]

for that il need him legendery, and i dont pay in games

[dusk tundra]

@proper orchid

[austere geyser]

[unkempt geode]

any ideas?

[woven mason]

You just need crystal level 141

[next prairie]

il need elite + tasi and elite +skreg for it or gorvo

[austere geyser]

Eironn lyca tasi brutus rowan

[proper orchid]

If you put pippa in there who teleports to who

[next prairie]

im not that lucky i needed to finish chapter 12 to get belinda to level estrila to mythic?+

[proper orchid]

Make sure she’s in center

[dusk tundra]

what do u mean?

[proper orchid]

Look at pippa’s astral shift ability

If ogi drops on mirael that’d be good

[tepid sequoia]

Can anyone help? I’ll need ainz comp for the next stage

[dusk tundra]

oh lemme see

@proper orchid wow that worked first try, ogi didnt even get tpd onto mirael it just worked for some reason LMAO

[austere geyser]

Iz fera tasi lyca eiron

[woven mason]

Eirron 1, lorsan 2 daymon 3 rowan 4 Lyca 5

[proper orchid]

Pippa is pretty awesome early game I’d build her if I were you

[tepid sequoia]

Will try, hopefully that would work cus Fawkes always banish Tasi

[dusk tundra]

i have her in resonance rn, still at the point where focusing on fodder is better afaik?

[proper orchid]

This is an easy izold win with Nara hook on fawkes

[austere geyser]

nara

[tepid sequoia]

What’s the other three?

[proper orchid]

You already have 4 copies and Arden, just get one more E+ wilder fodder and put her L+

[tepid sequoia]

Izold died instantly

[dusk tundra]

wait so sacrifice both tasi and arden for pippa?

[proper orchid]

Idk ferael Rowan Talene if you can, if not then improvise

[proper orchid]

Do not sacrifice tasi no. Wait for more summons and use a fodder hero. Arden ogi or ira

[dusk tundra]

oh ok

[proper orchid]

Try to build oden if you can too. I’m working on portal party right now

[dusk tundra]

I don't think I have oden, only person i have lots of dupes for is pippa, only carries i have are gywn and daimon and only 1x of each

[austere geyser]

i can see oden in ur box

[dusk tundra]

wait what

[proper orchid]

Put him against Rosa so he targets Rowan, unless Rosa follows Rowan. Tasi is another substitute for back line here

[dusk tundra]

Am I blind? I swear I don’t see one

[tepid sequoia]

Already did that

[austere geyser]

Ur not don't worry

[elder gale]

This is a stage from hell or what

[proper orchid]

Play around with it, might take some rng but that’s definitely doable. You should definitely invest in Silas soon tho

Wouldn’t hurt to use the swap scroll, you got Shem Belinda and Lucius

[warm spire]

Please help

[austere geyser]

[elder gale]

Main comp is daimon.4 daimon counters what do i do

[proper orchid]

Wukong lyca nemora Rowan oden

[warm spire]

Thx

[proper orchid]

You could swap oden for solise probably if it doesn’t work

[austere geyser]

Let me see ur box

[warm spire]

What’s the positioning

[proper orchid]

In the order I said

[warm spire]

I

Starting from top front?

[warm spire]

Oof I died

[proper orchid]

Try again, it’s all RNG

[warm spire]

K thx

[proper orchid]

Remember this for the future

[warm spire]

Swapped solise and still lost rip

[austere geyser]

Try again

[pale kettle]

Can anyone help me with this team comp?

Help me please

And yes I know my hero box is shit.

[proper orchid]

Say it with me now, everyone

[austere geyser]

Thane oof

[proper orchid]

DONT PUT HEROES TO LEGENDARY IF YOU DONT HAVE 4 OF THEM

[pale kettle]

Is that a no on the help?

[proper orchid]

Thoran lyca solise eironn Shem

Idk if that’ll work tho you got some interesting hero choices

[austere geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/at-first-i-was-like-meh-but-then-lol-laugh-gif-4728060

[pale kettle]

[austere geyser]

But bro wtf a u doing what is that

Don't doo that focus 5 héros onlys

[pale kettle]

I didn’t know what I was doing at the time

[austere geyser]

[proper orchid]

I could start a new account and pass that in 5 days tops

[austere geyser]

Up eironn daimon tasi and lyca

[elder gale]

4 e+ copies you mean so 8 copies?

[austere geyser]

Shemira belinda lucius solise is actually bad

[proper orchid]

4 copies=2 e+ copies. You know this because you said 8 copies

[elder gale]

You shouldnt ascend unless you got 8 copies not 4. Hence why i was wondering what you were saying

[proper orchid]

Daimon Rowan and a few others, not exactly

[austere geyser]

Calm down

[elder gale]

Only daimon and rowan and maybe heroes you know you are gonna hcp.

[proper orchid]

Which could be virtually any character

[elder gale]

But it would be bad to hcp random unitd because u ascended at 4 copies like a dum dum

[proper orchid]

Idk about you but ain’t nobody F2P sitting at 160 on the crystal waiting for 8 copies of characters you can get outta hcp lab store and challenge store

4 is enough usually

[maiden marsh]

buying 4F heroes from lab and challenger kinda

[elder gale]

True

[proper orchid]

Before emblem choice chests are in it and as long as you’re saving enough to get the current dimensional, what else is there to buy

[austere geyser]

[proper orchid]

It significantly boosts your early progression

[elder gale]

Arthur.

Every rotation is a must. That will keep you going long enough early on. Challenger tokens on ezizh or athalia will take u a long long time.

[maiden marsh]

arthur and celopogeans

[austere geyser]

Gonna go for othros

[proper orchid]

You literally just need 5 A heroes then you can start that. With Arthur the only problem is time, and 1000 diamonds potentially cuts 1 month off that. Less hero progression, means less PVP rewards, which intern overtime means less copies of ezizh

[elder gale]

Your argueing rushing the first month to slow down the 3 months after instead of taking it slow in the first 2 months then getting a significant boost after

[austere geyser]

[proper orchid]

No, you’re thinking about it the wrong way. 2 steps forward one step back. Your priority above all else is level 240

[austere geyser]

That true

[main orbit]

Halp

[austere geyser]

@main orbit

[proper orchid]

try Brutus tasi Rowan ainz lyca

[main orbit]

Ok thanks

[main orbit]

Respect, now ascend him and dont let my boy be stuck at L

[austere geyser]

Thx thx

[proper orchid]

@austere geyser @main orbit on my 2nd account but

[austere geyser]

That not good u have to let thane leg

[proper orchid]

[austere geyser]

Thane release is true power only when is leg

[main orbit]

#classic-chat lets try not to get smited by mods

[main orbit]

Is rowan dependant on ulting there

[proper orchid]

No but it helps ainz damage

[main orbit]

Ok

[main orbit]

Whos supposed to frontlibe minus brutus

[proper orchid]

Tasi or lyca

[main orbit]

Ok

[proper orchid]

If someone sends a message with five heroes in it, assume they meant it in this order

[main orbit]

Ah ok, also rowan dies immediantly from solvina

[proper orchid]

Yeah, I kinda figured. But you don’t want her to target ainz

[main orbit]

Fair

[proper orchid]

He can tank a bit if you give him belinda’s gear

And drape maybe

[austere geyser]

My all out raku

[main orbit]

Ainz can consistently ult but he does it once and by then everybodys dead and he dies shortly after

Maybe building a daimon team would fit better

[proper orchid]

Damn 👀

[main orbit]

Maybe go to #classic-chat mods might warn for off topic

[proper orchid]

Maybe but I think ainz is better for this. Albedo merc?

[main orbit]

I used my merc and pretty much 90% of merca would do the job, any ither ideas?

Thanks for the lineups btw

[nimble fossil]

I hate this enemy team..

[mortal onyx]

What's the counter to Ainz w/Rowan and Ezizh arena comp? don't have Alna, looking at the PvP winrate chart, high end burst is other way to deal and don't have Zol/Zaph. have most other meta champs.

[rustic oxide]

Can I please get some help?!?

[storm epoch]

try this numisu/raine/rosa/eluard/silas subs for joker,Alna for ezio if albedos/ainz dying quickly sacrifice any hero of choice early on to get a safe nuke

[main orbit]

Anyone know? already tried afkhelper

[pale kettle]

can u run brutus thoran, ferael rowan daimon?

or talene instead of brutus?

[main orbit]

Thanks ill try it

[main orbit]

Rowan dies immediantly from silvina and pretty much everything falls apart after frontline dies, daimon cant 1v5/1v4 so he dies after his second ult, thanks for the idea, do you have any more lineup ideas

[pale kettle]

not going to lie I kinda took that one from afk helper, you can try safiya instead of rowan but just keep in mind daimon comps are super rng based, sometimes it might look like its going to fail but eventually it will work

or mehira instead of rowan but idk how well she works without that class speficic artifact

[rustic oxide]

I’m trying...this gets me the closest but still far away

[pale kettle]

does kelthur not switch places with your ainz?

[rustic oxide]

Kelthur does not switch places

[pale kettle]

btw currently ive been retrying 26-12 for well over 300 times, i know itll work though i just need a lot of crits @main orbit

[main orbit]

Ok il try mehira and saf, thanks

[pale kettle]

maybe nimisu can distract and heal a bit longer than silas ? that stage just looks painful so maybe you will just need to retry a lot until you get some nice rng

[main orbit]

Should i remove fera? He dies right after rowan/mehira/saf immediantly dies from silvina

[rustic oxide]

Ugh I just want to delete this game. This stage is so effen

[pale kettle]

fera is good for the fears, after he fears he can pretty much die iirc

[main orbit]

How much people getting fear is a good amount?

[maiden marsh]

Don't worry, 16 has the worst flora stage in existence

[pale kettle]

honestly I have no idea, it depends on who he fears not how many iirc

[main orbit]

He fears silvina

[pale kettle]

he should fear tasi as well i think bc they both on the same side iirc

[main orbit]

Tasi stays on right aide, fera just feared her so its rng ig

[maiden marsh]

fera fears are random

[pale kettle]

just keep retrying and eventually you will get it, tasi stages are a pain in general and they keep getting worse the further you go normally you can try and nara her but shes not backrow here which kinda sucks

[main orbit]

Yeah banish is annoying, main problem is keeping frintline from not dying, and silvina, tho since by the time tasi ults its already iver

Should i just put ainz in safs place? Anybody there is dying so migjt as well put my tankiest mage

[pale kettle]

you can try that, idk if just pure tankiness will help as much though, rowan is useful bc of potions and saf bc of her pyramid

[main orbit]

Saf cant pull her puramid

Rowan cant set up potions either

[pale kettle]

dang that sucks, i thought at 180 and L she sould be able to bc mine is at E but maybe silvina bursts way too fast. ig try ainz and hope for the best. Daimon not at A can be super irritating at times lol

[main orbit]

Well he can but it doesnt help much, and it dissapears after he dies

[frozen hemlock]

Should I swap a character, I have a red swap scroll.

[pale kettle]

no also that type of question should go in #classic-questions

[storm epoch]

imo that set is easily done with 5pull though you used up the units already :/ you can try and shift ainz away from center but seeing as hes immune to displace it would be ideal to leave him center another sub would take position 5 likely mehira/nara/oden at low asc even elite i do remember wukong drop hitting hard so they might struggle

[pale kettle]

I'm stuck

[pale kettle]

wukong lucius frontline, cecelia shemira thane backline if you dont want to reset anyone

I can reset if needed

i would reset thane for either peggy or silvina fo this stage

[nimble fossil]

Can I get some help?

[earnest ravine]

Any suggestions on who to use or who to focus on?

[pale kettle]

post in #classic-questions and read the pins there but for now it looks all right

[warm spire]

What’s my best teamcomp for world 8

Not counting limited characters or mercenaries

[pale kettle]

what is world 8?

[warm spire]

I mean like campaign 8

[pale kettle]

chapter 8?

[warm spire]

Yes sorry I started playing like 4 days ago

[pale kettle]

oh wait no u mean chapter 1 stage 8 or chapter 8 stage 1?

[warm spire]

8-5

[pale kettle]

post what 8-5 looks like and waht u use

[warm spire]

I’m not stuck on this specifically, but just moving forward

@pale kettle

U there lmao

[pale kettle]

yea sorry had to something rq

[warm spire]

No problem

[pale kettle]

does that lineup not work for u? it looks like it should but if not try lucius instead of hendricks

[warm spire]

I was just wondering if there’s a better one

[pale kettle]

also each stage might require a different lineup, there isnt a set lineup you can use throughut a whole chapter iirc

[warm spire]

Since I literally just unlocked four ascendeds in one ten pull

Then can I tell me which characters I should group together

[pale kettle]

sorry i didnt understand that

[warm spire]

Sorry typos: can u tell me which characters are good that I have and which characters to group together

[pale kettle]

you have a decent amount of good characters but not all are good when you are low in chapters, a basic formation might look like what you are using or if the monkey is dying too fast try lucius hendrick frontline, tasi rowan and monkey backline

[warm spire]

K thx

Btw my tanks are supposed to die first right

[pale kettle]

i guess? not sure how its like that early tbh

[austere geyser]

Humm

[sly talon]

Can anybody help me? I've been stuck for 4 days now.

[pale kettle]

can u fereal enemy tasi and nara enemy ferael?

[austere geyser]

Idk but for me only tasi oden lyca rowan is useful the other are kinda useless all chap

[sly talon]

No, Tasi is teleported away by the time Ferael fears.

[pale kettle]

maybe nara the tasi then? not sure how good leofric is for that stage

[austere geyser]

Swap rowan and brutus and brutus too dimon

Daimon

[pale kettle]

that would make ferael fear daimon too uch iirc, i know its supposed to be random but from my experieince the closer daimon is the ferael the more fears he gets

[sly talon]

The Tasi banishes Daimon no matter what, and that's what's causing me to lose. I might just make Ferael level 240 and try that.

[austere geyser]

That why u have too put them behind

[sly talon]

.. Tasi banishes the person with the highest attack rating.

[austere geyser]

Yeah thx but i know

[sly talon]

Here is what happens during the battle:

1. Tasi banishes Daimon
2. Ferael fears my team
3. Everybody except Daimon dies (because Daimon is banished)
4. All 5 enemies attack Daimon, and Daimon is getting feared every second, and then gg.

Battle stats.

[pale kettle]

from my experieince in ferael tasi stages i do ferael 1v1 then nara the tasi, she still banishes my daimon but it takes her longer to which gives my daimon a bit more time to ramp up

[sly talon]

How does your Nara survive? Your nara is only E+, mine is Legendary and Tasi one shots Nara...

[austere geyser]

@sly talon @sly talon

[pale kettle]

honestly i have no idea, nara does the nara thing or she insta dies, just requires a lot of rng ig

[turbid minnow]

Whats a decent boss team I can make with some of the people I have

[sly talon]

Do you mean guild hunt or twisted realm? If you're talking about Twisted Realm, it's different for each boss.

[austere geyser]

Daimon tasi lyca eiron saurus

But if u wanr focus boss up raku fast because is actually the best one

[turbid minnow]

Guild hunt

[pale kettle]

I'm kinda lost rn

[storm epoch]

try this either unlock rowan,lorsan soon borrow some twins i have asc and mythic on alts if u need to borrow next run

[pale kettle]

merc a 5* 30 si saurus and u should be sailing for a while

[turbid minnow]

Ok!

[glad acorn]

Help plz

[sly talon]

Put Daimon behind Talene, put Lyca infront of Estrilda and Nara behind Lyca. I don't know if it'll work.

[glad acorn]

Unfortunately not. I have tried using rose, Lyca, tasi mostly

[sly talon]

This is interesting, I don't know how you can't get it to work at only a 2x power deficit. Do you have Ferael? Ferael supports Daimon the best, other than Rowan which you already have in your team.

@glad acorn If you have Brutus, you can also try putting Brutus in front of Estrilda and Daimon behind Brutus.

[glad acorn]

I will try that thanks

[rustic oxide]

I did run 5-pull but no go. My Saf is just 000. The other heroes in 5-pull are built.

I’ll try running 5-pull for 30 or so minutes later tonight.

[maiden marsh]

kinda seems like a nightmare set for 5 pull but then again I don't use 5 pull at all so what do I know

[rustic oxide]

Lots of 5 pull solutions for r1 on afk helper

[storm epoch]

gl does sound weird just make sure they have enough haste adjust tree if necessary got it in a few tries

[rustic oxide]

Ok thanks guys. Eating dinner now. I’ll try later tonight

[storm epoch]

enjoy!

[tawdry heart]

i need help

What should my lineup be I don’t know who to use or anything

[pale kettle]

Help plz

[mortal mural]

What comp should I go with? Been struggling

[rustic oxide]

@pale kettle @storm epoch @maiden marsh

[storm epoch]

gz glad you got it! looks like you cut it close on r1 lol

[rustic oxide]

Ainz needed better boots... dim boots finally dropped in guild shop. Took them directly to T3

It was close for sure however only took less then 5 tries after T3 boots

[storm epoch]

ah didnt know ainz looked done mine was 1st for t3 honestly those nukes are sth else

[snow pasture]

Can anyone help me with my team?

[tulip cypress]

Was wondering who to focus on first

[main orbit]

Thats a #classic-questions question, i also reccomend you read pins in #classic-questions

[tulip cypress]

Ok

[spring violet]

assuming that you have 5pull comp, use this

Lorsan

Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
Skriath

[woven mason]

does albedo SI calculates bonus att and def based on current number of heroes in fight or just starting number. sry, wrong channel

[mild schooner]

Just start today. How should I build my team?

[woven mason]

you got pinned guides in questions channel

[mild schooner]

Didn't see it, thanks

[willow gull]

Hey guys, I’m stuck at 7-8, should I be resetting wk and rowan to level my fodders?

Read a lot of guides but I’m still pretty confused

[fossil thicket]

can anyone help me with this?

[reef drum]

Hey guys, should i start stargazing or its better to wait?

[willow gull]

can anyone help with this

[bleak bridge]

You could start gazing now, tho I personally would finish tidus and silas first.

[willow gull]

anyone??

[bleak bridge]

I'm not sure I understand the question. What do you mean by leveling fodders? Wukong is a good carry early on

[willow gull]

i read alot of guides and they said you have to max level 5 fodders. So im not sure whether i did the wrong thing by leveling wk first. Im also confused as to which 5 heroes i should be leveling first and which one is supposed to be overleveling the other 4 by 20 levels

[bleak bridge]

Well until level 160 your best carry option based on the heroes you have, would be saveas/mirael. The carry should be at least 20lvls above your support and tanks. You can fodder the L+ heroes for better options like daimon at 160+. I would drop wukong after 100. Something like saveas/arden/tasi/rowan + a tank would be a safe bet until 160.

You can also swap in daimon as your carry before 160 once you get a few copies, but besides him I would just stick with mirael/saveas'

[willow gull]

i dont have daimon, im currently using the free one they lend u for 3 days haha.. ok so i can put any heroes i want into the crystal?

[bleak bridge]

yes

over level saveas for now

[spiral quail]

Im a bit stuck here, any suggestions ?

[willow gull]

so manual level--
saveas/arden/tasi/rowan +wukong as my tank? Why not oden instead of tasi though?
Crystal--
anything i want right

[bleak bridge]

Tasi is much more usefull early game, so make use of her

Lucius is also a very good tank early game

[willow gull]

can i also ask why saveas instead of mirael? Tasi at the frontline?

so do i need to level up the fodder the hogan and mirael?

[pale kettle]

@bleak bridge ?

[bleak bridge]

His dmg output is better than mirael and has better survive-ability skills. Tasi usually goes backline. If they are one the crystal yes, you can leave them up there until 160. Hogan is also a good tank early on

[bleak bridge]

?

[willow gull]

Wait I’m confused again 😂 sorry u mean I should level hogan and wk as my tanks, say lvl 70.
Tasi, Rowan lvl 70
Saveas 90.

Smth like that ?

[bleak bridge]

correct. wukong after lvl 100 gets a bit squishy so swap him out with lucius/brutus if you get a copy

[pale kettle]

Could u help me ? D:

@bleak bridge

[bleak bridge]

Try adding some haste and drag mehira

Do you have fera?

[pale kettle]

Yea legendary

[bleak bridge]

Lyca eiron fera nara daimon

[pale kettle]

How can I add Somr haste

[bleak bridge]

tasi instead of fera then

[pale kettle]

I’ll try cheers thank u

It worked a bit

[bleak bridge]

Brutus, daimon fera/tasi lyca rowan

[pale kettle]

It don’t work then I’ll think I’ll wait for mercenary

[bleak bridge]

And please stop wasting precious fodder. Don't bother going to L unsless you can go all the way to L+

[pale kettle]

It don’t work I think I’ll wait mercenary

[bleak bridge]

M fera +20 would help you out alot here

[pale kettle]

I know I stopped all the L are old

[bleak bridge]

ok good

[sweet heath]

how can i beat this stage

[sweet heath]

i think you should

[strong badge]

Try something like this (place joker/safyia/talene for the circle)

[sweet heath]

thx ill try

[royal laurel]

I’m not sure who to pick for star-gazing

[spring violet]

imo Lucretia, and try to grab 2 twins for AE.

but gaze with gaze cards only and crystals should be spent on getting faction heroes.

[shut bluff]

Trying to make this line up work ... can’t alter too much as it’s multi stage and most my other built heroes been used 😦 any ideas guys ??

[sick loom]

been stuck here for a while

[summer cedar]

@pale kettle can u show me the stage?

Or maybe @stuck trellis can help he's great w cheese

[summer cedar]

Probs need fera over lyca here. Gotta get chancey and interrupt luci ult or daimon will never get a kill.

[sweet heath]

switch lyca and thoran, replace lyca with ferael ?

and if it doesnt work, try mercs

[split oar]

a good daimon comp with what i have?

[nocturne bolt]

Should I use Ira to feed tasi, to make Tasi mythic? I’m only at 11-35. Tasi has been part of my main team for a while :rooSip:

[pale kettle]

ayy grats!

[keen jungle]

How tf ainz suppose to get 2 ults off when their whole team steals energy

[turbid oyster]

What’s a good comp

[shy pagoda]

Any ideas for this?

[sweet heath]

try
shemira

daimon
rowan
tasi
rosaline follows shemira or daimon

[golden finch]

need help countering silvina

[brave oriole]

@royal laurel I would not rush, save em for later. Usually it's celehypo heroes, twins lucretia alna

@golden finch u can't counter, but you can use a lower mage to troll sivina

Bcs she s attacking the lowest def one

[golden finch]

what would br the lineup then

[brave oriole]

Well, you are not having many good heroes atm, so I dunno. Maybe
Rosaline
Hogan
Mirael
Shemira
The new hypogean lory

Silvina will attack shemira cuz lvl 1,then Rosa should kill her

[golden finch]

@brave oriole ty

[hazy bramble]

Any ideas?

[brave oriole]

@hazy bramble yeah, everyone should stay 120,until shem get 160.now, I see no rowan etc there, shemira should be always Frontline, u can also use Brutus front if have, to tank a few sec

[hazy bramble]

Aight

[brave oriole]

If you have any rowan, use him close to shem

Wukong is outdated already, so find something better, any hypogean would be okay for the 30%def buff

Nvm if he insta dies, shem will get perm 30%def

[pine moth]

I need help on 23-60

I use top 5

[brave oriole]

Oh man, you failed so hard this acc. You should not have more than a few acseneded heroes, making so many legendary heroes, wasted your fodders

[shy pagoda]

No luck unfortunately, here's the rest of my heroes if it helps

[brave oriole]

Why isn't shem 220,instead of Rosa 200?@shy pagoda

[pine moth]

Most of the heros u can just straight buy from store

[shy pagoda]

Idk tbh

[brave oriole]

Reset Rosa to 180 and push shem, check the dust first

[pine moth]

I play for fun there no such thing as a failed account

[brave oriole]

You will get some dust back from Rosa lvl

[shy pagoda]

I probably have enough to get her to 220 without resetting rosa

[brave oriole]

@pine moth well, no, but, you delayed your progression by a few months

[pine moth]

How so

[pale kettle]

post the stage as well i cant help if i cant see the lineup and im too lazy to use afk helper

[brave oriole]

Bcs for every hero legendary, you have waste 2 elite + fodders etc

[pine moth]

Yea i use blue heros

I dont see how thats a waste

[brave oriole]

Yep, that means, you will hardly ascend any hero from now on, to A

Bcs you have waste resources

[pine moth]

I have tons of elite+ fodder sitting waiting so i can ascend....?

[pale kettle]

its too late to turn back time so he cant really do too much about it ig

[storm epoch]

do u have a merc use left?if so borrow a rowan ill send setup

[pine moth]

I just need to pull the right heros then i can ascend

[brave oriole]

Well, if you not playing f2p, then it's fine

[pale kettle]

he shouldnt need to merc that stage with that level gap, if i could do it so can he

[pine moth]

I used it yesterday to clear the boss before 2360

[pale kettle]

still waiting for you to send ss of 23-60

[storm epoch]

it makes it that much easier is all 😅

[pale kettle]

can u switch daimon and nemora and charm the enemy raine? I assume shes ur biggest problem

[pine moth]

She wipes my team after 5 sec

[brave oriole]

Arden works the best this 60 stage, in middle

[pale kettle]

if not nemora u can try using a nara to drag raine closer to u

[shy pagoda]

I managed to beat that stage, 220 shemira helped alot thanks

[pine moth]

Omg this qorked

[elfin rose]

Hi I need help In the tower lvl 120

[brave oriole]

@austere geyser try daimon
Nara
Brutus
Ferael
Rowan
Daimon

[pale kettle]

grats on beaating 23!

[pine moth]

I tried 3 times with that switch twice failed then third time won with 3 heros alive ty soooo much

[pale kettle]

also if u ever get stuck on a stage try afkhelper.naxis

[pine moth]

I cant go to that site

[austere geyser]

I already try that at frist but didn't work

[pale kettle]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[pine moth]

It just takes me to a post about afk helping on minecraftforums. O

[brave oriole]

@austere geyser maybe its about artifacts, rowan tank more with chalice, but you may try rowan up Brutus down and daimon middle, closer to rowan

[pale kettle]

i forget theres a . between nax and is oops

[pine moth]

I got it ty

[sick loom]

@pine moth im at chapter 29 with same hero lvl, you shouldnt be struggling to much

[pine moth]

I know its mostly positioning and i suck

[maiden marsh]

Just stop using shemira, she isn't contributing anything now that daimon is built

[jade shore]

how do i beat this

[main orbit]

Have you read the pins in #classic-questions

[jade shore]

yes

[main orbit]

Whats the main problem, maybe you can nara that isa if shes annoying

[jade shore]

i put nara on the isabella but my ainz cant seem to proc twice

[jade shore]

also the brutus is really annoying, and the batdude

[main orbit]

Do you have a nara

[jade shore]

yes

[main orbit]

I think she can hook isa

[jade shore]

yeah she did but the brutus goes and murders my ainz before he can proc a second time

[mellow burrow]

Try swapping Ainz and Rowan

[jade shore]

which is needed to beat the stage

[mellow burrow]

Amd put Nara for Isa

[shy pagoda]

Maybe swap your 2 front line around. Get the faction bonus of light bearers on lucius against the brutus

[jade shore]

ok ill try that

should this be my lineup

[mellow burrow]

Yes, try that

Maybe Lucius and Brutus swapped around

[jade shore]

wait what artifact should i put on ainz

[mellow burrow]

Call

[jade shore]

and lucius

i have eye call drap grace

[pale kettle]

which artifacts do you have unlocked so far?

[jade shore]

.

[pale kettle]

does lucius live long enough to ult?

[jade shore]

yes once

depends on where i put him tho

[pale kettle]

I would go with grace for lucius then

if he keeps dying before ulting then go with drpe

[jade shore]

ok so this lineup

[pale kettle]

try it out

[jade shore]

it didnt work

[shy pagoda]

Run it a couple times for rng

[pale kettle]

was it close?

[jade shore]

lucius ulted once

[pale kettle]

did Ainz crit everyone?

[jade shore]

eh not that close 2 heroes remaining to kill

[mellow burrow]

That’s close, rerun it a couple times

[pale kettle]

thats pretty close

[jade shore]

thats the statsheet

nvm he didnt kill any

[pale kettle]

you can try switching lucius and brutus a couple times but i think thats the bes comp u can make rn

[jade shore]

ok thanks

[shy pagoda]

Any thoughts for this stage?

[jade shore]

wait when i switch em its way closer

[mellow burrow]

Rerun that

[jade shore]

ainz ults twice

[pale kettle]

then keep it like that and just hope for a bunch of crits

[jade shore]

should i add tasi into that

[pale kettle]

do you have eerion and nara?

[shy pagoda]

Yes

[pale kettle]

idk how tasi could help so im not sure, mine always dies super fast

[jade shore]

oh ok thank u very much nonetheless

[pale kettle]

wb a thoran?

[shy pagoda]

Not leveled but I can put on crystal

[pale kettle]

try brutus thoran frontline nara daimon shemira or brutus shemira frontline nara daimon errion

[shy pagoda]

Ok will do ty

No joy unfortunately. I'll keep running it but any other suggestions are welcome

[pale kettle]

try afkhelper.nax.is

idk how good shemira daimon hybrid carry comps are but maybe someone there used a hybrid carry

[shy pagoda]

That website doesn't work for me

[maiden marsh]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[shy pagoda]

Ty

There's that, which looks close to what I could make but mine just dies instantly

[pale kettle]

try brutus instead of talene

[shut bluff]

Come on guys need help on this one. Can’t alter the line up too much as it’s on multi stage and my built heroes are used up

[shy pagoda]

Just don't think my daimon is strong enough, need to ascend him

[maiden marsh]

Raku out for oden

[obsidian raven]

Any advice on this? I feel like I’m hitting a wall here

[pale kettle]

switch shemira and goat lady

[obsidian raven]

Switch their places or switch them out

[jade shore]

switch their places

nem up and shem middle back row

any help on this, i want to unlock the stargazer

every submission on https://afkhelper.nax.is/ for that stage is daimon comp

[brave oriole]

@jade shore ehh, try ainz fron for fun, but nemora have to charm at all ferael
Lyca
Brutus
Nemora
Ainz
Arden or tasi

But honestly shemira would work much better than ainz for a few chapters

[obsidian raven]

@pale kettle who should I have rosaline follow

[jade shore]

what should my shemira comp be

how should i arrange them

[brave oriole]

@jade shore well, shem and Lucius Frontline, preferably Lucius with call, rosaline rowan and lyca/fawkes etc

So try Brutus and ainz front, lyca nemora tasi/arden

[jade shore]

who can i switch rosa with dont have her

[brave oriole]

Try this first, then you try shemira

[pale kettle]

shemira

[jade shore]

didnt work, tried about 6 times all with them shuffled

[brave oriole]

Well, watch if nemora charmed ferael

[jade shore]

she didnt

[brave oriole]

Sometimes she s not in a lot of retries

So try until she does,

[ripe knoll]

any idea what would work against this

[brave oriole]

@ripe knoll have Brutus? Try
Rosa
Brutus
Nemora to charm ferael
Shem
Rowan

[jade shore]

wait she charmed the ferael after about 10 tries

but still didnt win the stage

[brave oriole]

@jade shore well, post all your heroes, do you have rowan?

[pale kettle]

honestly if you still have merc option avaliable u can merc that stage. I remember i did bc it was especially annoying and i dont think theres any more isabella, grez, fera stages in 20 but i might be mistaken

[sharp fulcrum]

assuming i dont pull another daimon, what should i start going for?

[pale kettle]

still daimon, if not shemira can maybe work? also it looks like u messed up your account a little bit so you should really read the guides in pins in #classic-questions

[sharp fulcrum]

my goal isnt really to be top 10 or something, its just progress little bits every now and then, be better than i was before lol

but ill check it out

[pale kettle]

top 10 server campaign progress is isnanely hard as f2p, im currently 26th and i havent made much mistakes and I have an A daimon

[sharp fulcrum]

i got a little hasty and took shemira straight to mythic instead of waiting for another 2 daimon

[pale kettle]

Who should I use. Currently on 6-12

[pale kettle]

post the stage pls

[dense moth]

https://gyazo.com/e66711e1b6ebff459df23319510c6500

any elpers ^

[pale kettle]

try talene brutus frontlin, ferael daimon rowan/arden/izold/lyca backline

[dense moth]

Didn't complete but looks like with a few RNG tries it will work, Thank you! ❤️

[pale kettle]

gl!

[dense moth]

4th attempt it worked, ty!

[pale kettle]

yay, grats!

[dense moth]

Brutus OP

[pale kettle]

yep lol

[next prairie]

Anyone has an idea i have been stuck for a few days on this

[hollow urchin]

Need help got no healer :/

[keen jungle]

Tried ferael instead of nara but ainz still cant get 2 uLts

[pale kettle]

switch tasi and nemora

I've got the same comp as min power clear but rc346 instead of 341, I swear I've retried this stage like 50 times at least. Is it just that heavy rng or am I missing something?

[next prairie]

Didnt work unfortunately

[pale kettle]

looks doable might ned a bunch of retries though

ugh i really dont want to download bluestacks just to macro this but it's kind of ridiculous

[pale kettle]

switch alna and estrilda maybe? idk i feel like with good rng it could work

[next prairie]

Estrilsa perices alna immunity so she just dies

[slate elm]

How? Third peaks of time btw

[dense moth]

Why do you have so many legendaries man jeeeessus

[slate elm]

How do I do it

[sick loom]

read the pinned guide on #classic-questions

[brave oriole]

@slate elm get. A merc

[maiden marsh]

Shem out for nara, hook morvus

[wheat gate]

Dang, thanks it worked lol

[sharp rapids]

im doing the abysmal delves and i always cant finish it cos of this weird dmg gap for the last like 3-4 battles

[brave oriole]

Ainz may be slow without windbinder artifact, so he needs rowan energy

[sharp rapids]

hmm should i take out talene or

[brave oriole]

Or well, lyca may work also

[sharp rapids]

dont have her

[brave oriole]

Not even elite? Just for haste

[sharp rapids]

i do but shes not on my crystal

[brave oriole]

Aha, then just try rowan

[sharp rapids]

kk, who should i switch out?

[dense moth]

https://gyazo.com/65978b18fa6cd9ff28f15be5c050033f

Athalia fucking me up

[brave oriole]

very sad

Try to see if it works,
Rowan
Daimon
Arden
Ferael
Brutus

[dense moth]

https://gyazo.com/4bcfeb61928edacd26b797086faea98f

Wrecked

[brave oriole]

Mh arden didn't root

[dense moth]

Yeah I ran it quite a bit, still not been lucky

https://gyazo.com/bae3b16da17d177149a2604cabd4be8f Nara middle replacing rowan top ended up being the saviour, athalia and belinda taken out for enough time

[golden finch]

am i to low leveled?

[frozen fog]

should i swap lucius with saveas? i cant ascend lucius rn

[fickle kernel]

Pls help idk how to lineout

[frosty gazelle]

Help. 😭

[vivid vigil]

Help? (Also i know im not supposed to ascend to L without L+) [figured it out too late]

[obsidian patrol]

I need help with this floor on the tower. Mauler Floor 80. Two warek on the front line 3 Nara on the back.

[pale kettle]

Help?

[obsidian patrol]

Swp Nara with Ainz?

[pale kettle]

doesn't work

[obsidian patrol]

hmm

[pale kettle]

[dark bison]

help. I hate this witch. what arti / comp?

[sly talon]

Brutus instead of Leofric. If it doesn't work, swap Nara with Fawkes or something.

[manic ravine]

Is this an impossible win? Struggling to make izold or thoran cheese work. They all just melt

[pale kettle]

didn't work

[sly talon]

That is very interesting.. You are only at a 2x deficit, how is Daimon...

[exotic dew]

Pls help

[willow gull]

Hey guys day 2 and I’m already stuck.. could use some advice. Stuck at 7-36.

[proven chasm]

Honestly just leveling up Mireal like the pinned guides say to would probably help. Daimon will struggle to carry alone at low levels

[willow gull]

But I saw Volkin do a F2P acc leveling Daimon and he hit chapter 9 on the second day

[proven chasm]

Then just do what he did? Otherwise inserting her as extra damage could help, along with getting Arden for some crowd control

Also maybe try Brutus as your tank? His invincibility is super helpful

[willow gull]

Yea I was thinking of using Brutus instead of Izold but my crystal is full. Volkin didn’t show what he did lol he just showed the account.

I realize my problem is izold getting instagibbed right from the start

[proven chasm]

I’d say remove Izold.

[willow gull]

But I can’t switch him out for Brutus cuz the crystal is full. Current team I’m using Daimon Rowan nemora leofric(free) izold

[proven chasm]

If you can’t progress using Izold as your tank. Remove him from the Crystal

[willow gull]

Do I spend gems to speed up the process?

[proven chasm]

I’d recommend against it. It’s a waste of gems. The time it takes to reset will also give you time to gather afk rewards and level further.

Before that you could try letting Daimon tank the fight. And replacing leofric with lvl 1 lyca for haste or Mireal to see if it will clear the stage

[half ridge]

I hate isabella

can someone help me with this? I put nara there but she cant kill isabella

[willow gull]

Yea just tried the lyca and mirael thing, they die way too fast

[manic ravine]

Anyone can help with this?

[pale kettle]

Won the chapter last Monday but I’ve been stuck here ever since. If anyone has any tips I’d love to hear them 😥

[storm epoch]

just needs a solid frontline build a rowan M at the very least sig+30 too chalice equip brutus(drape/barricade) immunity is fine usually in front of daimon i tend to keep tasi(eye/call)and lyca(grace/shroud) if not then have rosa(blade/eye) follow daimon(call)

[pale kettle]

Ah, thanks for the help!! I’ll try it out :3

[storm epoch]

chp should be doable under 300lvl if u want to give rc cramming a break 280ish or so is enough maybe even less take time on farming emblems instead 2x refresh store always

[stiff shard]

usually doesn’t have to and can’t anyways, nara just needs to momentarily disrupt instead of letting her ramp up so your own carry can

[umbral tinsel]

Finally got shemira. Which lineup fits with her

[high marlin]

Tbh Isabella isn't your main problem there

Try putting nara across from Ferael. Sure Isabella might be dealing the most dmg but it's Ferael that's ccing your team

[exotic dew]

Pls help

[next prairie]

Anyone got an idea?

[strong badge]

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[bold siren]

Is there anyone here who beat 36-44 at around level 420 and could post their winning formations? 😖

[strong badge]

This has a list of winning formations for most stages
https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[bold siren]

Yeah, i know, but it doesnt help me🙃

[clear lark]

how lol thoran looks like the best chance

[jade shore]

how do i pass this stage

these are my heroes

[zinc cypress]

Is my formation Ok? (Just started so It might not be the best)

[jade shore]

put ur lucius frontline and your daimon backline

[zinc cypress]

Ok thanks

[fading coral]

who should be put around my daimon?

[night relic]

can my lineup be any better?

[zinc cypress]

Maybe put rowan back middle and replace Nara with someone else

[sweet heath]

how can i beat this stage ?

[odd void]

brut rowan nara eironn daimon @sweet heath

[sweet heath]

welp doesnt work guess ill have to level up heroes

[safe ridge]

@sweet heath try
Eironn

lucius
Rowan
daimon
Tasi/shem

[glad acorn]

Trying my damnest out here but can’t seem to get passed this line up seems to be most effective atm

[storm epoch]

try and keep daimon backline always get good boots on nara for haste shift daimon center if he gets charmed

[pale kettle]

Even stopping safiya with Nara isn't helping me need some advice

[sweet heath]

funny how we're stuck at the same stage

[pale kettle]

Ezizh, safiya, numisu is such a hard combo to deal with. Ezizh in particular seems to be my kryptonite

[storm epoch]

maybe one of these if saf field isnt an issue

in 4 lorsan subs rosa following gwyn u can prevent a fully charged saf nuke with rowan

[pale kettle]

Joker helps a lot I can actually take out ezizh for 29-60 with him but it's still not enough I might have to level at this point even one level would help

[storm epoch]

dang if he had 3f he has a chance of escaping ezizh pull too srry didnt notice :/

daimon has call right?rowan chalice talene drape etc

[halcyon haven]

Should I keep this account or keep rerolling since it's hard to get those cele/hypo heroes ? https://gyazo.com/b32d751f2e2f5ea910778dd7c51ebbf5

[zinc cypress]

Is this decent?

[tepid gull]

@pale kettle put ainz behind arthur put talene in the middle
And the for the remaining two you can use lucius front and rowan back or using prince instead of lucius
It all depends on whether your ainz ult.
Well it would have been a bit easy if you had ezio

[open kernel]

I'd Brutus or Arden over Lucius, moving Daimon to the front with Arden

[zinc cypress]

Ok thanks

[pale kettle]

Help plz

[pale kettle]

Shouldn't talene have sword?

[pale kettle]

Ainz is garrison I don't have him atm

[tepid gull]

It's best if she had the recovery artifact bcz here you need talene as a healer not a damage dealer

[storm epoch]

in this case for heals shes not being used as main dps anyways when she is its in gc cycling ults strong normal atks

[pale kettle]

That makes sense thanks

[tepid gull]

@pale kettle then I don't know
It's better if you work on ascending your heroes

@pale kettle try using eiron shemira prince rowan and damian
Put shemira rowan and eiron in the back and but prince and damian in the front

*put

[pale kettle]

Thanks

I don't have an emote to express the amount of disdain I have for this game. How on earth did this comp work!

@sweet heath give this comp a shot if you want I'm not sure what your roster looks like

that comp is like half of thoran cheese iirc

Yea it pretty much is but thoran did almost nothing

yea ig, grats on beating chapter 29 though!

[main orbit]

#classic-questions

[cobalt gust]

Sorry, I thought this was still fitting to Lineup help, gonna ask over there...

[main orbit]

Anybody know a good solution to this level, i tried afkhelper

[sweet heath]

aah i tried but i haven't built half of those heroes and im a f2p

[vague fiber]

Stuck in chap 8 😩😭

[warm spire]

Best team including dimensional

[bleak bridge]

@tired reef brutus arthur albedo ainz fera

[dire bough]

I’m stuck on 21-52, does anyone mind helping me?

[sleek torrent]

mebbe brutus lucius frontline, and isabella gwyn fawkes backline

[dire bough]

Ohh I’ll try that

[sleek torrent]

You can also swap around the backline for more cc or more damage like belinda, oden, could also put nara to drag someone

Or have rosaline follow gwyn around - you'd do well to build up rowan and get his +30 asap, he'll be really really helpful for pushing campaign

[tired reef]

thanks, it worked

[bleak bridge]

Np

[main orbit]

Anybody know a good lineup

[sleek torrent]

if you don't want to use your saurus merc, mebbe tidus brutus belinda tasi safiya

[main orbit]

Ok thanks ill try it

[sleek torrent]

You can swap backline around with other heroes like ainz, or get silas instead of two DPS for more support

[main orbit]

It worked pretty well, ainz can ult but everybodys dead by then and he cant ult a aecond time (with the stun), silvinas also annoying as he aims silas

[sleek torrent]

hmm okay, safiya could work with her field effect, daimon might do the trick as a carry too

[main orbit]

Yeah saf worked and gets killed by silvina unless silas is there to take ot, ill try daimon

[sleek torrent]

Does tasi die, or does she banish someone? Could try daimon + ainz as carries, that's a pretty tanky enemy lineup

[main orbit]

I cant see her banish someone since the field is chaotic but i assume she does, ill try ainz and daimon thanks, tasi survives until 1:18 does she banish before that?

[sleek torrent]

If one of the enemies turns faded green yeah, that's banished

Daimon/Tidus frontline might work (if tidus doesn't get oneshot and can fear the enemies)

[main orbit]

Ainz and daimon worked! Thanks a lot for the help, also yeah ik they but when she banishes everybodys in 1 spot so cant see, thanks for the help

[sleek torrent]

ohh nice npnp

[wheat gate]

Any help?

[median mirage]

Need some formation help. Stuck at 9-26

[narrow lark]

Looking to push some ranks in LCT a bit since my income is very lacking. Any changes I should make for my teams?

[glad acorn]

Just want to get to stage 22

[storm epoch]

try getting oden soon subs mainly in gb team pippa➡️silas,izold➡️Alna/tasi

[narrow lark]

Yeah I'm building him next, just waiting on fodder. Thank you!

[sleek torrent]

Maybe tasi instead of talene

[storm epoch]

highly recc zol burst for 5pull use challenger store for that if pvp is focus soon

[narrow lark]

Yeah was going to get my Ezizh to M then start working on Zol 👍

[tidal sun]

Send help

And I’m stuck on all floors of the kings tower

[pastel birch]

Is there anything that should be changed with this lineup? (For general use)

[pale kettle]

some stages u wont need both rosa and rowan in which case u can put thoran/brutus frontline

[pastel birch]

Sweet, I tend to swap rowan out for him anyways

[sharp ledge]

Anyone help with building two teams I normally now I’m on two bosses

[honest storm]

Any idea for this one?

[earnest ravine]

Any ideas for a lineup?

[brave oriole]

@honest storm use rosaline for mirael. Also leave your heroes at 120,and push mirael to 160 first

[honest storm]

Okay, thanks will try

[brave oriole]

@honest storm when you get one more daimon copy, go for daimon carry

[maiden marsh]

daimon and portal pull

daimon would be daimon + 4 supporters like rowan brutus theowyn etc.

portal pull will usually look like eironn lyca oden pippa flex slot

[honest storm]

Just tried, I think Mirael is just bad... Or I use her wrong

[brave oriole]

@honest storm she's so and so, what setup have you tried?

[warm spire]

Any ideas

[hidden condor]

Any tips for lineup?

[summer cedar]

try the site. my clear and other successful ones are there, I don't remember exactly

[golden finch]

struggling against vedan

he cant die for some reason

[nimble fossil]

I’ve asked before, but no answer. Can I please get some help?

[dark narwhal]

Haven't played in a few months. Was looking for suggestions on if I should change anything? I'm at stage 9-1

[prime plaza]

What are best Lb heroes for hunting fields and can anyone recommend any teams in em? Have all A except Peggy(L) and eluard(e) , most si fi required are met

[pale kettle]

I'm a new player, and in chapter 2. I'm just curious to see what my best options are for a team at this point.

[misty egret]

Still new trying to figure out my best lineup for the moment any advice would be great thanks

[digital skiff]

Rowan daimon core, arden lyca Lucius oden shem as supports

[digital skiff]

Overlevell wukong, you get one for sharing twice

[digital skiff]

How's your wishlist look

[dark narwhal]

@digital skiff

[digital skiff]

I'd swap belinda with raine

[earnest ravine]

Any lineup help?

[digital skiff]

Don't make any legendary heroes anymore

[golden finch]

anyone help?

[raw ice]

How does one deal with enemy Flora's? Also Satrana's burst?

[maiden marsh]

at high deficit, best anti-flora options are cheese or alna teams

satrana can be charmed or you can have brutus eat the seeds

[raw ice]

What if I don't have Cheese or Alna? Lol (154 deficit).

Also more specifically... 35-48 with it's two separate Flora stages :o

[maiden marsh]

if you don't have thoran 30 or alna, you'll have to get creative. people have made things like lucretia, izold, alnaless daimon, etc work

[raw ice]

Building Thoran and Alna now, but apparently I should've started earlier.

[warm spire]

Please help

[turbid oyster]

What’s a good comp for this

[proper orchid]

Stuck in gold 1 here

[maiden marsh]

you can check the top lineups and copy those

[proper orchid]

99% of them have grez and Cecilia, that’s why I came here instead

[maiden marsh]

merc saurus, E grez, E cecelia, daimon, twins is enough for diamond

[proper orchid]

ig I’ll try it then

[sharp rapids]

anyone know the lineup to kill@back 2 heroes first? // don’t have nara but maybe can merc her

[valid timber]

gwyn is good for that one too

[grim bolt]

Any help with this? Have just a few more hours till my misty Valley resets and I want that free choice lol

[tidal sun]

🙄 this is really gonna piss me off

[odd basin]

I’m pretty new so I need help

[tepid gull]

Try alna,lucius front and shemira antarda,tasi in the back.
try building some healers like talene etc @tidal sun

@odd basin hi you should focus on shemira and do more summons after that ask someone who to build first
remember never to use ascended tier heroes as fodder
@odd basin

[median mirage]

I need some help with my team. I’m stuck at 9-28, and nothing seems to be working.

[tepid gull]

Can you show us what lineup your up against

[median mirage]

Here’s what I’m facing.

[tepid gull]

Put silas instead of the archer in the front

[main orbit]

On a side note have you read the pins in #classic-questions, nemora shouldnt be on your wishlist

[onyx falcon]

Anyone has the latest lineup for tower LB 379?

reworked antandra and satrana are a pain

[tepid gull]

Put silas at the back and you should also try putting wukong instead of the wilder lady(sorry I am not good at remembering names)@median mirage

[high marlin]

Nara with call across from Mehira. If you're not running ainz comp then letting Mehira get her bats is just a loss

[median mirage]

Thanks, I’ll check those out

[random nimbus]

If I need mirael to be my carry, what would be the team for her

[high marlin]

Eironn, Rowan, Diamon, Lyca, Tasi

[woven mason]

Rowan, tasi, arden and lyca as support and Brutus with somebody else as tanks. Some heroes need levels to be better tanks so it s hard to suggest which heroes you should use

[stuck breach]

I really wanna clear 15-40 tonight. Is there anything I could do to improve this? I've tried a bunch of loadouts

[random nimbus]

if i had to put my mirael at 4, i suppose brutus shoulld be 1 and rowan at 2, then tasi and maybe lyca, though im thinking if brutus and wk is at the front would it be better? or estrilda and wk would be betteer

[high marlin]

Use either ainz or Diamon. They don't work together

[stuck breach]

So Daimon doesn't work as a tank, just as a carry?

[high marlin]

Diamon isn't really a tank no lol

[stuck breach]

Would Izold or Thoran be fine then?

[high marlin]

Another support would be better

[woven mason]

That probably depends on enemy team. But rowan starts to be good tank after he gets M gear so he ll rarely survive this early in game. But ATM he s only for potions anyway

[tepid gull]

Try putting silas as support instead of tasi

[random nimbus]

would in seq, 1. wk 2. estrilda 3. silas 4.mirael 5. rowan work? becauuse then i would get 4 faction bonus plus silas as a healer

[brave oriole]

@stuck breach just ignore ainz for a while, play daimon lvl 180

[stuck breach]

Why is that? Last time I was told he needs SI, but now he has that.

[brave oriole]

He needs more things, gear etc. He's not an early game hero, daimon is much better for now. Ainz will get much better by the time, with albedo in team. Albedo it's designed for ainz, his si and buff

Just overlvl daimon and you will be happy

[radiant sonnet]

first is my current lineup | what would be a good lineup to help me push better? or is my current one nice (sometimes i switch out rowan for twins)

[onyx mulch]

How should I do this?

[brisk heart]

Any ideas?

[onyx falcon]

Could i get some help here? Stuck here for so long

I tried so many lineups and still didnt work

[fading coral]

should i change anything

[frozen stream]

guys who should I level up? and which comp would be great with Shemira being the carry?

[crisp zenith]

@frozen stream is Daimon on your wishlist? I recommend either SI20 M Daimon as carry since he doesn’t fall off like Shemira, or use Ainz if you’re unlucky with Daimon

[frozen stream]

yeah, he is, I didnt think about Ainz, thanks

[crisp zenith]

I used L+ Mirael at 160 as my carry through chapter 12 or so. Don’t waste more resources on Shemira and keep her at E+ @frozen stream

Personally I don’t even think she should be on the crystal. Much more valuable units need a spot. Ideally you have 5 units per faction since at Ch 15 you unlock faction towers, so having a full team on the RC will be useful to push early tower and get good rewards

[random nimbus]

can i know whats your mirael team?

trying to make one but im not clearing 7-36

[crisp zenith]

Mirael front top, Lucius front bottom, Rosaline back top, Rowan back mid, Raku back bottom @random nimbus

[random nimbus]

Can you advice please? I do have raku but no Rosaline

[crisp zenith]

Oh sorry @frozen stream meant to reply to your question

You can use Tasi or Lyca in place of Rosaline

[frozen stream]

Its fine, do you think I should reset shemira and level up Mirael?

[elder gale]

you should not focus on shemira at all lol..

[elder gale]

daimon is the best carry in the game he is GB, try to build him, remove ur second shemira from the crystal cause you cant use the same hero twice anyways. something u could look for early on is lyca/tasi/eironn in wilders, sylas/thoran/daimon with daimon being biggest priority , for lightbearers u need rowan. he is needed in most comps in the game rowan op, other lb afterthat would be rosa and niche use for tower gwen,maulers you could look at skriath/safiya

shemira is useless after ch 20. its a bad investment

[elder gale]

you can use infinite mercs in mistvalley borrow that albedo and put her instead of daimon. and use joker instead of brutus and then fix positioning like albedo/arthur ainz/rowan/joker

daimon and ainz dont work in a comp together

[jade shore]

i have retried this stage about 100 times with different lineups but to no avail, can someone help

[elder gale]

i think theissue of the stage is isa, so use a hooker like nara to get her in delay her ult

[jade shore]

yeah i did that

but nara cant kill isa since nara is at E for me, i need someone next to nara to kill isa

she is the issue of the stage

[elder gale]

thats all nara is for pulling in isa, ur other units cna kill her.

[jade shore]

but the problem is idk which units can kill her

[winged olive]

Any advice? Been struggling

[spare robin]

Do you have the emblems to get Daimon up to SI +20? Replacing Gwyn with him, and Eironn with Lyca would probably get you pretty decently on you way

[winged olive]

I do, yeah. I'll give that a try, thanks.

[elder gale]

this is an easy stage for daimon aslong as he isnt on the same side as brutus. if he gets 2 kills on the bottom side he can survive brutus his ult , just let rng do its thing

without the merc u can do brutus rowan tasi lyca daimon. a really standard daimon comp you can push to ch 30 with ur comp , be prepared for 29-54 tho its a bitch i used a merc for that

[willow gull]

Hi guys how to clear 9-40? I have one more spot on the resonating crystal. Current team that survives the longest: Daimon Rowan Leofric Tasi Silas. Tried Brutus and Eirron and failed miserably. Here’s a picture of my barracks. Thanks guys!!

[spare robin]

Daimon, Rowan, Leofric, Tasi and Silas is a pretty decent lineup as it is, what does the stage look like?
Beating stages is about more than just surviving long enough, sometimes you need to tech up to take out key units for example. Chapter end-boss stages tend to be trickier than many

[willow gull]

Thanks for helping man. This is the current stage

[spare robin]

Do you still have the hero choice chest with Nara in it? Isabella is most likely the biggest issue on that particular stage, and using Nara to hook her and pull her into your team so you can kill her ASAP will probably help

[willow gull]

you mean the 50/50 epic chest? no im at 40/50 now..

[spare robin]

No, it's a chest where you can pick one out of four heroes or a stack of faction scrolls, I can't remember where you actually get it

Lets you get a copy of Nara, Nemora, Khasos or one other that I can't remember. Lucius maybe?

[spare robin]

That's the one!

[willow gull]

yeap this one right? i gotta have 50 epics, im at 40 now haha

[spare robin]

Aaah, dang

Hm, ok, let's see if we can manage without her then

Try adding Lyca to your lineup, speeding up Daimons ultimate snowball a bit might help

Something like Daimon, Tasi, Leofric, Prince of Persia, Lyca maybe
I barely even know what Leofric actually does tbh, but if he's been wworking well for you, mightaswell keep using him while you have him

[willow gull]

ill video a run of the stage now

without lyca. Leofric is fking insane

[elder gale]

he fears peopel reduces energy and his ult taunts highest attack rating unit to a totem that has alot of hp

[spare robin]

Rowan dies really fast, if you put Tasi in front instead of him, he should live longer hopefully.

Something like this maybe?

Daimon
-- Brutus
Rowan
-- Tasi
Leofric

Or something like
Leofric
-- Daimon
Rowan/Silas
-- Tasi
Silas/Lyca

[drowsy locust]

Hello, maybe some suggestions for me?

[willow gull]

ill video it for you gimme a sec

[fossil thicket]

can any1 help me here? ❤️

[spare robin]

You're running three carries, take out Shemira at a minimum, and add someone like Lyca or Brutus for example, depending on what the fights look like

[spare robin]

That one seems better, just slightly more damageoutput needed
Lyca intead of Silas might be enough

[fossil thicket]

@spare robin i think my brutus or lyca are too low arent they?

[willow gull]

wouldnt lyca die really fast though

[spare robin]

Nah, both of those are unique in that they work really well already at E
Brutus will survive while his passive immortality bubble is live no matter what, so he guarantees an impenetrable meatshield for a while
Lyca is mainly there to give your team an early fight boost of haste and energy to supercharge you and get ultimates going earlier, if she dies immediately after that, that's just fine

[drowsy locust]

@spare robin could you give me some advice, please?

[elder gale]

i was about to say lyca instead of eiron and let her dodge tank athalia.

[spare robin]

PoP instead of Silas might be an idea too, some extra firepower and CC

[elder gale]

then maybe swapping eironn for tasi works

[spare robin]

I did the same stage a few weeks ago, but I can't remember what I did there, but I'm pretty sure it was a very similar build as the one you have now, you're running a lot of mostly the same units as I've been using lately

I vaguely remember running 5-pull with Daimon instead of Lyca, and Rowan instead of Tidus

[brisk heart]

Any ideas for these two? I’m losing my mind trying to get through this stage

[drowsy locust]

sadly, i don't have Skriath Ascended 3f
so no 5 pull

[elder gale]

i didnt run 5 pulls , i just ran supports next to daimon. i think thatshould work just fine. for this stage. i dont remember having issues on 29 60 so i probally jsut brute forced over the stage

and i did it with rc 258 or something

i think it was daimon/brutus rowan lyca tasi

my fereal is in the making so i dont think i used him on that stage

[drowsy locust]

and i can't do it with 267 (
Lyca dies instantly with t2 gear

[elder gale]

its rng. run it multiple times, she is a dodge tank. the entire daimon comp is a mess of rng.

[spare robin]

Could let Athalia dive on top of Alna or Brutus as well, let her spank at someone immortal

[drowsy locust]

how many thousand times?)

[spare robin]

Safiya might help too, especially if you pull in more of them with Eironn into her pyramid

[elder gale]

not thousands maybe 10 or 20 times

every 3 times u run it im sure she dodges 1 out of it on average

[drowsy locust]

i did it for like 50+ times already
okay, thanks for advises

[elder gale]

sometimes she dies 20 times back to back, some times she dodged 10 times in a row. its the beauty of the rng of daimon comps

[drowsy locust]

Athalia just gets energy for ult and destroys me

[willow gull]

still cant clear

[sharp ledge]

Okay Thankyou I will have to get Lyca up and Brutus

[white burrow]

Hi guys, new player here. Want to ask a line up for my current heroes? Just for general use. Thank you

[grand perch]

Hello @white burrow,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[next prairie]

Anyone got an idea?

Nvm

[coarse gust]

Hi guys. Im a new player. Can someone help me that should one i have to choose ?

[grand perch]

Hello @coarse gust,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.