lineup-help

[pale kettle]

Bit okay I will do that, should I overlevel Rowan? Or Lucius? What would you do?

[sick loom]

neither of them are carries

[strong badge]

I would level mireal or eironn

[pale kettle]

I will overlevel eironn, okay 👌

But why not Lucius haha

[strong badge]

Tank

[solid remnant]

No damage with lucius

[pale kettle]

Hm okay

How many levels should eironn be above the others?

[sick loom]

20 and 40

when there's 40 lvls difference u can't lvl him anymore because u will need to lvl the other 4 heroes

[pale kettle]

Okay, thank you

[thorn bramble]

How do i join a melitia

[maiden marsh]

Have to sign up for abyssal expedition when it's available

[thorn bramble]

Ahh okay thanks baldie

[ebon hazel]

Been stuck here for weeks. The Isabella and Hend are ruining me

[cosmic gorge]

You can try this comp. Since you have all 5

[ebon hazel]

Who does the Rosa to to?

[cosmic gorge]

Eironn

[ebon hazel]

Eironn gets bursted and Rosa does nothing lmao

[cosmic gorge]

Try changing saurus for rosa

And put him in the front

[ebon hazel]

Dies even faster

[cosmic gorge]

Hm

You can try albedo, ainz, rowan, Arthur and ezizh. Tho your ezizh is pretty bad atm, try changing that out for smth else

Hope for the ainz to kill everything

[heavy gorge]

So overlevel

[heavy gorge]

Try lucre comp+eironn

[ebon hazel]

I beat it just now with Izold and a bunch of random tanky shit

[cosmic gorge]

It’s because i’m on chapter 31:30 when it changed from 2 battles to 3. idk They took the lvl down from 40k -> 26k but That’s just life i guess. I couldn’t be bothered progressing, That’s why

[heavy gorge]

Try to wait new update

[ebon hazel]

Honestly feeling that

Went up 5 levels on 33-12

Can't get my Ainz comp to work

[humble apex]

At that investment you’d probably be better off running gwyn Arthur, assuming daimon is already your 4th team

[ebon hazel]

Gwyn is my 4th

Daimon wasn't working for some reason

Also Gwen could not do that

[humble apex]

I’m pretty sure ch 33 is going down to 3 fights tomorrow anyways

[ebon hazel]

Oh damn really?

[humble apex]

Mhm, in the patch notes/from test server

[pale kettle]

Tasi either banishes my daimon or fawkes seals him

[pale kettle]

nvm after retrying over 50 times with my ainz merc I finally beat it

[wide canyon]

Hey y'all, I've been stuck on 11-35 for awhile and need a bit of help. I feel like I've tried a ton of combinations and it's just not enough

Anyone got any ideas or am I out of luck for now

[rustic oxide]

Any thoughts?

[low ravine]

Saurus/Ferael (depending on gear), Arthur, Gwyneth, Raku, Numisu. Get Rosa and Numisu SI up to +10 btw

[rustic oxide]

Fera can front line this stage.

[nocturne furnace]

not even with shroud?

[low ravine]

Then Saurus. If he doesn't survive do Skreg or Alna

[rustic oxide]

lol

re-read my comment - Fera CAN front line this stage....

[maiden marsh]

Who does rosa follow

[nocturne furnace]

oh dam lmao

[rustic oxide]

well I dont use Rosa... she is link to Arthur :X. I dont have any more good Dim links

[low ravine]

Oh sorry

[maiden marsh]

Enemy rosa

[pale kettle]

@rustic oxide just w8 for tomorrow. They nerf how much lineups u need

[past urchin]

Lol

[rustic oxide]

Fera

[rustic oxide]

NOOOOOOOOOO lol. I want to pass it now. Im in the top 10 on my server so Im trying to keep it that way

[maiden marsh]

Alna arthur ferael gwyn raku

[rustic oxide]

3 more copies away from A Alna 😉

[pale kettle]

I dont understand that. If tomorrow its easiger u have nothing to rush it now

[maiden marsh]

Well anyone else in slot 1 is gonna be disintegrated

[rustic oxide]

There is some truth to this comp.... let me run it a bunch of times.

[rustic oxide]

Thank you Sir, there is some truth to this comp too. Ill play around with it and get Numisu to +10

[pale kettle]

ferael
Saurus
rosa/silas
Arthur
silas or twins

[maiden marsh]

Sounds pretty doomed ngl

[low ravine]

Play around with Raku Gwyn Arthur. Those 3 together are pretty good

[past urchin]

You guys realize anything in slot 1 apart from Alna is instaded to Rosaline I hope.

[rustic oxide]

yah Tru7h mentioned that. Alna needs to be in slot 1

Sir, you are the king of comps..

[maiden marsh]

[narrow lark]

[past urchin]

Grats @rustic oxide

[rustic oxide]

thank you thank you. Trying to move up before the Nerf tomorrow.... Im sure everyone can make it to Chap 36 with the nerf

[lone lintel]

Any thoughts for those both teams?

[tawny shuttle]

https://i.imgur.com/yUbsh1d.jpeg how do i beat this

[storm epoch]

daimon call lyca grace ferael eye thoran/Brutus drape rowan chalice

[lofty cairn]

@Torres#2546 thank you

[teal mirage]

Help I'm getting destroyed

:(

[frigid linden]

Lucius for knight and get switch either ros or oden with daimon

[brave oriole]

@teal mirage mirael should be l+ and 160 until now

[sharp fulcrum]

@brave oriole

[brave oriole]

This its not great, better tank than carry.

Usually you put Brutus where talene is, rowan middle, and that is

[sharp fulcrum]

ive got a legendary rowan and elite brutus

[brave oriole]

But shemira performance is low without rosaline to buff

Tomorrow update will allow you to set Rosa on following who ever you want, shem in your case

[sharp fulcrum]

An elite Rosaline as well

Who should I swap out

[brave oriole]

Well, for now, try
Estrilda
Brutus
Nemora
Lucius
Shemira

Restart if nem didn't charmed ferael at start

[teal mirage]

well that really isnt up to me, until I get a decent summons, I am stuck with this roster

[brave oriole]

@teal mirage honestly, it was up to you, just you didn't build another elite +mirael until now

[sharp fulcrum]

my brutus is so weak if it gets even tickled by farael his passive procs

[brave oriole]

Well, he keep busy shem and Isabela, restart if nemora didn't charmed ferael

[frigid linden]

anyone got an idea

those are all the heroes I can use

[brave oriole]

@frigid linden pull arden with eironn

[teal mirage]

I need to ascend Hogan to raise the crystal cap. He was the only e+ on it

[frigid linden]

tasi is the problem but Nara and athalia get one shot

[brave oriole]

@teal mirage look man. You don't have to. Bscly you stop at 120,until your carry hits 160,then you lvl one by one all to 140. Until then you will get a diff carry to ascend to mythic and go past 160

Bscly your team should be at some point mirael 160,Others 4 120

@frigid linden swap rowan daimon then, see if works better. Also when nem charm safiya it goes bad

So try
Lyca
Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Eironn or nara

Also, put chalice on rowan and call on daimon if you didn't already

[plush pilot]

Lineup help pls

I don’t really know what I stronger between this lineup and the one where I replace twins Rowan and Gwyneth with Lyca Saurus and Tasi

[woven mason]

you should make mirael your L+ carry and ascend arden L+ as support

gwyn and saurus are bad this early in game

twins are bad for campaign unless they are ascended

[plush pilot]

ok thanks

[plush pilot]

But who should I keep with them ?

[keen wave]

Anyone have an idea why i cant get Thoran to KO Flora here? Even 3 consecutive ults on her doesnt come close

[woven mason]

you should read guides that are pinned in questions channel

[ionic hull]

There some guys really good in pvp (top10 challenger)

@keen wave this the 35-48 fight 2 right

[steel island]

Need help, can't beat boss at 6-36

[ionic hull]

@steel island first thing you have too much heros up up only 5

And up your carry fisrt 20/40 lvl upper

And you can play wukong lucius front mireal(carry) rowan rosalin @steel island

[steel island]

Thx

[keen wave]

35-60

[ionic hull]

Ok sry i am on 35-56 😅

[nocturne furnace]

Well it’s the exact same lineup as the flora on 35-48 lol

[ionic hull]

Lol ok

But i use a different lineups

@keen wave if you want to try

[nocturne furnace]

This kinda answers ur question but not rly

For me, Rowan had to die midway into thoran second ult causing flora to fall right on thoran
I haven’t seen anyone ult 3 times to kill her

[ionic hull]

Yep for that you need a kelthur or talene for less RNG

[nocturne furnace]

I used l+ flora over kelthur, the lorsan in 4

[ionic hull]

Yes with good flora is the best and he have

[nocturne furnace]

5 star call made that fight insanely low rng

[heavy gorge]

Your ezio is using gear? If yes which gear t1 t2 or fully t3?

[ionic hull]

@heavy gorge ya faction t2

And shroud of verdure

@heavy gorge but you can use mortas to replace ezio

[heavy gorge]

My lvl now is 375 if i using mortas is just I thought it wouldn't work

[ionic hull]

Oh ok you are really low yeah 35-48 is probably the more hard stage in 35 😂 so yes ezio probably better but you need a lot of patience good luck 🤞

[heavy gorge]

Because of 2 flora make my crying

[ionic hull]

Ya flora is really a pain in ass

[midnight cave]

is there a counter to Ainz main carry, I keep getting clean swept even by drafts -2M below me who are running Ainz I have Oden who can drain him to 0 but even when he is drained he still manages to clean sweep with his auto attacks and Goal of Life is Death

[heavy gorge]

Gwynt+oden is just counter for ainz

[ionic hull]

Good ainz compa whit athalia to or god comps

[midnight cave]

Don't have Gwyneth, Nara can't hook Ainz so she doesn't do much, I have Lyca to try to pressure him early and Cecelia, I'll have Prince when he comes out

[real raft]

Hello friends. Is my next hero to be ascended Ferael? Is he still good? Or Hero Choice for the last Thoran? Or anything else?

[ionic hull]

@real raft buy thoran in shop and start fareal

[midnight cave]

Idk how Fareal is but I will say I NEVER see Fareal used EVER, I'd say Thoran he is actually good and you're already really close to A anyways

[heavy gorge]

Lol never see ferael used

Ferael is the most flexibel hero

[real raft]

@ionic hull @midnight cave Thanks
Surprised about Ferael considering how high he is in a lot of tier lists
@heavy gorge and now I'm confused haha
I'll wait for more opinions maybe

[ionic hull]

I play fareal enormously my main comps is ainz Arthur albedo fareal with rowan or ezio

[heavy gorge]

Try to play with or without ferael and feels the difference u will know later

[midnight cave]

Fareal has stuns, but (at least that I've seen) his damage is a bit powercrept compared to toher heros, an on Ainz draft that's fine BC Ainz solos everyone but outside of that I feel like Fareal just doesn't have the dmg these days (kind of like my carry Oden rn lul)

[heavy gorge]

Lol, ferael is not main carry

Daimon + ferael is beast

[humble apex]

ferael isn't supposed to be a main damage dealer. he has a fear, micro stuns, attack and healing debuff

[ionic hull]

Fareal is more a supp whit good domange sometimes 😂

[humble apex]

ferael can be used with ainz, eironn, daimon, whatever

[heavy gorge]

I think him never try to use ferael just for one time

[midnight cave]

Basically Fareal is stun machine go BRRRR

[ionic hull]

Stun and energy debuff

[humble apex]

at 9f that's part of what he does, but he does a whole lot more than just stun

[eternal lantern]

Hello! Where can I find a meta carry tier list? Really need to round up my lineup but can't seem to find any meta tier list

[ionic hull]

@real raft you have more opinions now 😉

[maiden marsh]

tier lists aren't too helpful but arty's endgame pve guide is very helpful

[eternal lantern]

Thank you!

[maiden marsh]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/le0b0p/visual_guide_to_end_game_pve_formations_by_arty/

[midnight cave]

Oden is 2.2M, Ainz is 1.5M (BC I know people will ask)

[worn pilot]

1. People won't ask for that.
2. You shouldn't be having difficulty pushing with that RC lvl

[maiden marsh]

brutus, arthur, nara, oden, lyca

[real raft]

Ferael and then Thoran it is! Thanks a lot friends
Especially since Daimon is my main carry
@nameless#7772 @chun#6202 @patate3498#5098 @Trash#2102

[midnight cave]

it worked, ty, went from all my draft dying in 2 seconds to clean 5-0

[wraith thicket]

Having some trouble with this stage
Talene died too fast in frontline same for thoran when they got to mirael she just melted

Arden just got obliterated as well

[silent epoch]

Replace Arden with Athalia and position her to strike Isabella. Don't let her Ult your team

[pulsar needle]

What's better skreg od Brutus?

Or maybe somerhing other?

[storm epoch]

brutus id only do skreg once 9/9 even then he wouldnt pair well there try something like this sub shem once she runs out of mileage she doesnt hold up very well later get a nice rowan or tasi ready in place

[pulsar needle]

Okey thanks

[eternal pier]

Any ideas i get killed in like 4-5 sec

Or this is the stage I'll be for while

[tawny shuttle]

swap tasi and enzio

@eternal pier

[brave oriole]

@keen wave I've used estrilda thoran, talene lorsan Pippa

[vivid scaffold]

One more toxic Ezizh level... Any ideas how to beat that?

[daring kayak]

Someone have screenshot of 35-36 without dimensionals/Lucrezia 9/9?

[past urchin]

Try to Eironn him.

You gotta burst him down before he locks your team down.
Daimon

Eironn
Tasi
Rowan
Ferael

Id try like that.

[hardy oriole]

Looking to clear chapter 35 today, need some solid teams if anyone has some recommendations

[verbal crescent]

Chapter 30 Looking for some1 to give me some advice about a good compo. I also have the red parchment to swap a heroe

[eager warren]

Help?

[maiden marsh]

it's going to be rough clearing double flora with no thoran 30 or alna, but as for teams, you can do

ainz
daimon
god comp
gwyn/thoran/eironn

[hardy oriole]

Yea figured I'd need to make up the god comp lol just been lazy

Thanks though I'll give it a go for sure

[ashen silo]

Hello, new player here. Stuck on Stage 7-2. Any idea what builds I could use with these heroes?

[grand perch]

Hello @ashen silo,

Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.

[vivid scaffold]

It worked. Thank you so much 👍

[eager warren]

someone that can help me? with 28-40?

[vapid niche]

For my primary team, my Graveborns, I currently have Grezhul, Daimon, Shemira, Desira, then Oden and Kelthur. Should I use Oden or Kelthur? I don’t know if it helps but I’m lvl 54, with mostly lvl 120 characters

[maiden marsh]

why graveborns specifically? best drop shemira for someone useful, like tasi/rowan/etc

[vapid niche]

Because they’re my only good team rn

[maiden marsh]

are you overvaluing faction bonus? it's not something you build around

[vapid niche]

I ignore faction bonuses for the most part

[maiden marsh]

have you read the guides pinned to #classic-questions ?

[past urchin]

Nice! Congrats.

[slim moss]

If you can work to get skriath furniture, 5 pull is also a solid comp that finished a lot of 35 for me

[vapid blade]

i wish they would give me some faction scrolls

[foggy grove]

Uh how do I win this one

[maiden marsh]

thoran cheese most likely

[foggy grove]

My thoran melts pretty fast, am I doing something wrong?

[rare karma]

Can someone give a hand please?

[pale kettle]

Hey can someone help me choose the best lineup

[pale kettle]

elp

I can take raku up to 30+ if necessary

[shy pagoda]

Any ideas?

[west meteor]

I want go to Him White Dimord? Or Wait?

[nocturne furnace]

no reason to wait

[west meteor]

Wait or No Wait?

[strong badge]

Don't wait if you can get him ascended

[west meteor]

I wish time same all Five char turn White Dimord

[nocturne furnace]

get him ascended(white border) to break level cap. theres no reason to wait on havin 5 ascended

[hushed pewter]

Thoughts on what comp to do ? (Can't send image wait a sec xD)

[west meteor]

Sure?

[west meteor]

Okay

Done

[lunar minnow]

You should swap schroll that khasos lol

[strong badge]

Well you don't have to it's a decent dimensional link

[twin hound]

Do I need to move someone around to make this work?

[glad acorn]

A lil help? Accidentally reset rosaline

[vapid blade]

im using daimon comp as my main line up. but i need a 2nd lineup for 2nd boss battle, pls help me

[past slate]

I'm going to swap my oscar carry for daimon or izold, who would you recommend? They'll have 30 sig and 5/9 furniture. Thanks

[minor scarab]

Just started. Any suggestions ?

[rotund relic]

I'm having some trouble with Desira Bountiful trials 2 fights, combination in them doesn't work for those marked in red. On left side timer runs out before being able ot kill enemies and on right side they just kill my team with no problem

[vapid blade]

Test server?

[rotund relic]

I don't play test server

[vapid blade]

aah, anyway after the update those 2 doesnt work for some reason. i asked some helpful players in #classic-questions they said update changed something and those two formation wont work on those two places, just try something else i guess, i tried some random stuff till it worked

[foggy grove]

This would be a big waste

[summer cedar]

u can cheese or ainz this. cheese lineup is on the site iirc

[summer cedar]

perhaps not the most efficient clear but it's a clear

[rare karma]

Finally done it, thanks

[sly forge]

Since AFK Helper is often suggested on here, I thought that I would share a little update with all of you here 🙂
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/nl1jz6/afk_helper_50000_uploads_sorting_feature_and_much/

[foggy grove]

Yeah I’ve been trying cheese but hasn’t been working for me

[ebon hazel]

Never mind got it literally second attempt after posting.
Only took me 2 hours before that :floradeadeyes:

[frozen fog]

can someone give me advice on my lineup? (i'm currently using lucius as a carry and now have him at lvl 90)

[sharp ledge]

Need help people suggest what’s good

Any help on layout

[keen dawn]

[keen dawn]

Toy?

[sharp ledge]

Any help

[keen dawn]

Oh, 49 days

[sharp ledge]

Okay level up?

I’ve did last chapter and to where I am now with level 280-285

[maiden marsh]

leveling is cool and all but that's like an 80 deficit, you should be fine

[ebon hazel]

Basically everything about that is wrong

Mirael will be your carry, keep her there, Lucius can work as a tank, but Hogan would be better, you can keep Daimon as an intermediate tank but he will eventually need to move to the back and become your carry, drop Shemira for Arden when you can

[reef plank]

uh

[frozen fog]

what? someone said it was lucky

[ebon hazel]

Lucius and Shemira just suck, Lucius is no where close to a carry

[reef plank]

alright

[ebon hazel]

Daimon is the only lucky part.

[maiden marsh]

have you checked afkhelper?

perhaps

[royal latch]

why not ainz?

[elfin rose]

Hi can someone help me with a good lineup ?

[royal latch]

uh maybe

[keen dawn]

He can't live enough, even when he ults, no one dies

[elfin rose]

These are all my current heroes rn I'm using Daimon as my carry and Rosaline to support her

[royal latch]

hm

[royal latch]

well we cant really help u with a lineup if only 5 heroes have levels so u gotta use those 5 for now. just keep working with those five, they are good. keep getting copies of them and working them towards ascended

[elfin rose]

I can delevel them tho

[royal latch]

actually, scratch that. it'd be too hard to get ezizh copies. thoran could help as being a meat shield so build him up

daimon rowan rosa and lyca are good, though so keep working them up

[elfin rose]

So thoran instead of ezizh? But doesn't he give me 30% Def ?

[royal latch]

he does, but over time you're gonna want to focus on 5 main heroes to ascend so you can unlock the second half of the resonating crystal which allows all heroes you put on it to have their level

and ezizh, being a hypo, is way more difficult to get more copies of

[elfin rose]

Oh ok thx 😃

[royal latch]

its cool that u got him, but i'd go with someone like thoran as he's easier to get copies of and he'll be more useful later

just keep working those 4, and build thoran and get the resources necessary to get them all the way to ascended

[elfin rose]

And Saudis? Is he a option too?

Saurus

[royal latch]

saurus? he's also good as damage, too, but you have daimon as damage

and daimon is better atm because he attacks all enemies

[elfin rose]

Ok thanks so I should U thoran as a bulky tank to make sure my backline doesn't die

[royal latch]

yup. thats right

[elfin rose]

Ok thx for Ur support have a good day/night ❤️👍🏻

[royal latch]

np and goodluck

[elfin rose]

@royal latch instantly got 2 stages more in the tower

Who should I give this too? Thoran or Daimon

[pale kettle]

if that is duras call it goes to daimon

[royal latch]

uh i cant read that, let me load up my game. dont remember what it says lol
no thats not call

[pale kettle]

that is grace i think

[royal latch]

yeah. give it to either thoran, rowan, or daimon

[pale kettle]

thoran probably, daimon takes call 9/10 times i think

[royal latch]

thoran/rowan because they are good frontline so they get the HP buff, and get a shield from their ult
daimon because he can get that shield on top of his blood shield

he doesnt have call yet, so when that time comes he can do that

[elfin rose]

So thoran I guess he's in front with Daimon rn

[pale kettle]

in that case daimon (im assuming thats your first artifact?)

[elfin rose]

Or should I switch Rowan infront instead of Daimon

[royal latch]

give it to thoran for the HP buff, or whoever gets ults first in battle which i think would usually be daimon

rowan is a decent tank because he doesnt take damage but instead loses energy for a while, so it'd be nice for him when he's up front and ults to get a shield

[elfin rose]

Yes it's daimon

[pale kettle]

rowan kinda needs gear to survive front row i think, whats your lineup look like

[royal latch]

i'd give it to daimon and leave him up front, but rowan in the back middle spot

[elfin rose]

That's my current lineup should I switch any positions?

[pale kettle]

you need to read pinned guides after reasonating crystal hits level 100

[royal latch]

nope thats actually perfect, just swap frontlines back and forth if u need thoran to take something nasty like savaes for example

[elfin rose]

Also is Belinda good? I just got her

Would give me a buff if I put her in instead of lyca

[royal latch]

she was a good carry but newer heroes are better like daimon
lyca (eventually, not sure when) gives a haste buff and energy at the start of battle so shes good

[elfin rose]

Lyca just always dies for me very fast when someone just goes behind in the back

[pale kettle]

lyca has haste i think not sure at what level she unlocks that though but i think u have it unlocked

[royal latch]

lyca is pretty much just there to give haste for you, its ok if she dies fast

[pale kettle]

after she gives haste she can die, basically gives you team a boost and hope that your daimon can carry

[elfin rose]

Ok so everything is fine rn and if Daimon has something hard infornt just switch her with thoran

Than thx for both Ur help and have a great day 😊

[royal latch]

yeah, put thoran in the front spot that is being dealt more damage, and swap rosa and lyca to make rosa get to daimon faster if u do swap thoran and daimon

[frozen fog]

i know the standard formation is 1 carry, 1 tank, and 3 supports but where does each go?

[dim glacier]

can i have help for this stage of wilder tower? the deficit is 400-500k

[sacred verge]

Help pleaseeee

please help me complete this stage

I beg of you

[near sundial]

Remove Belinda, having two Dps is redundant, and her atk/crit buff is better replaced by more cc (tasi maybe?) Or some other sort of debuff. Brutus roar debuff is very underrated and he can do it even at E.

One other thing to try is put damion in the front, if he can get a leech off he is really tabby and if he is in the front he gains energy faster via being hit

[sacred verge]

so can you say the proper team?

[near sundial]

I don’t know enough about the trial hero he is very new, I’m not sure he is the best option here though.

Your goal is to basically boost/protect Damion long enough for him to do all the Dps. Build a team around making damion survive and ult as fast/much as possible

Position him to link with talene too for mitigation

[sacred verge]

I dont know as much as you so can you show or explain the team positions themselves?

[near sundial]

Read the ability’s. They are all in the game I’m not going to type them out.

[sacred verge]

No I mean the heroes positions

[near sundial]

Trial and error

[near sundial]

Put Damion frontline with talene. Put Muriel in position 4 (center) to optimize her ultimate ability @golden finch

If you put hogan behind damion he will rush up from behind him and knock back the enemy

[golden finch]

ok

and arden in same postion?

[near sundial]

Yeah for now. Try swapping Arden/hogan behind damion

[golden finch]

oo

[near sundial]

Arden roots are good cc but sometimes damion will leech a sheild faster if he gets hit instead

[burnt moon]

Who should I focus on mythic next

[golden finch]

@near sundial is it just a level difference because im stillnlosing

[near sundial]

Rowan should be a priority for his signature item @burnt moon

[burnt moon]

Oh fr

[near sundial]

Yeah it’s arguably one of the most important signature items ingame

[eternal pier]

Ideas on this?

[near sundial]

This team is very counter intuitive. Ainz and Saurus don’t do well with pull-teams. (Eironn)

[eternal pier]

So if I get sauros who to put

[near sundial]

[eternal pier]

Yes i know about the L

[near sundial]

I’m not even sure lmao. You chose very akward hero to invest in, very few options for a carry

I guess use hendrik instead of eironn

🤷

There isn’t a lot of synergy between the hero you have available. They just seem like a random hodgepodge

[eternal pier]

Well I build what I got

[near sundial]

Each one of those hero is very good but they all synergize around specific team types, and the specific hero you have are all from different team types

[eternal pier]

So okay i would like to go around Ainz he's cool af

What should i focus on for the future

[near sundial]

Ok so you want to invest in albedo, Arthur, nimusu

Knock back hero are good around him. He is a hardcore glass cannon. He dies very easy and if he doesn’t kill everything in the first 1-2 ults he becomes much slower

But he is one hell of a good nuke

[eternal pier]

Should i garisson albedo also?

[near sundial]

Yes absolutely. Albedo synergizes with ainz (or any dimensional hero) insanely well, her signature item boosts their damage and survivability by an absurd amount

[eternal pier]

Well not going to be today have resoures for only 90 shards

95*

[pale kettle]

I'm stuck

[mortal mural]

I’ve been struggling with scenario, and I have a guild mate telling me I should be much farther than chap 22, what should I do/what team do I make?

[pale kettle]

Alright Then

[viral pulsar]

I’m still really new and don’t know what... honestly any of these guys do. I lucked my way through the other stages, but can’t figure this one out, any help would be greatly appreciated.

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions . mirael carry will clear this

[summer cedar]

brutus rowan daimon lyca fera and variations thereof shud get a chapter or two done

[summer cedar]

read the channel description. u shud be posting ur box or it's difficult to help

[golden finch]

@summer cedar this?

[covert condor]

stepbro help me im stuck

no mercenary, this is best result atm, but tasi gets pulled by ezizh and i loose tempo. got no athalia either just a e+ nara

[vivid scaffold]

Can Daimon tank Athalia?

[covert condor]

:000 he can. maybe that will work, that way lyca gets pulled and not tasi

@vivid scaffoldtx

well not cleared but got one nice result lol

[vivid scaffold]

I often use Daimon in front of her

[covert condor]

he dies a lot but i did get one good cycle tx for tip

[near jolt]

really stuck here

[sharp rapids]

i stuck

[shy pagoda]

Any suggestions for this one?

[unkempt remnant]

Still super early game but do I keep levelling Wukong or is there a better carry/team I could make for helping me through the early game?

[half ridge]

not sure what to do here

[half ridge]

@shut pivot

[shut pivot]

pain

[half ridge]

got any advice

[shut pivot]

you can put brutus in front of estrilda so she doesn't one shot you

[vapid blade]

pls help me make a 2nd lineup for 2nd boss battle. im currently at chapter 31. my primary lineup uses Daimon, lyca, Rowan, Ferael and brutus.

[brave wagon]

use rowan

[brave wagon]

do you have an E mehira?

if yes, try daimon rowan fera brutus mehira (not in that order) 1st and eironn lyca tasi queen leofric/joker 2nd

[vapid blade]

i do have a E mehira, i will try and see how it goes. ty for the suggestion

ty. it worked

[pale kettle]

I'm stuck on this for days and I have no Idea what u could do to beat this stage. Any ideas?

[upper fog]

No Idea how to solve this, getting shred in seconds, can someone please help me?

[spare robin]

Lucius will start falling behind for you, he will probably start sitting more and more at the bench for you as you progress now. Saurus is a bit in the same position, he dies too fast for his healing to become relevant in campaign, most of the time

I would try experimenting with taking out both Lucius and Saurus, and throw in more reliable stalling frontlines, to guarantee stalling for Daimon. Brutus and/or Alna for example.

Swap places with Rowan and Tasi, so Daimon is in reach of Rowans energy pot, and try adding Lyca, to speed up Daimons ultimate snowball even more.

Something like this, maybe
Tasi
--> Brutus
Rowan
--> Lyca
Daimon

[half ridge]

Anyone got some advice for me here, bout to give up on this lol

[spare robin]

Take a look at the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel, they have a lot of tips on which heroes to focus on to make your life easier.

For that particular stage, Isabella is the biggest problem. Putting Nara opposite to her so you lock her down even more, and trying to kill her asap will probably help a lot. Eironn and Gwyn are both very fragile carries at that stage of the game, you're better off trying to get Mirael to L+ and overlevelling her, and using her as your carry.

[spare robin]

Take out Safiya and add Lyca instead. Fereal will help a lot at countering the healing from Numisu and Nemora as well, so having him in the team will probably make a difference.

No idea how well leofric works at that stage, but at that deficiency I'd imagine he just melts, might be worth trying someone else instead of him too.

I'd try something like this, if Daimon stays alive:

Lyca
--> Brutus
Rowan
--> Daimon
Fereal

[smoky anvil]

Any ideas here?

[spare robin]

Tried with Lyca instead of Fereal? He looks like your weakest link on that lineup

[pale kettle]

Thank you, that helped me a lot. But if I have mirael and I have Rowan, wich one should I place in the middle? It's the best position for both

[smoky anvil]

yeah, daimon gets killed extremely quick, not really sure by what

[spare robin]

Will vary a bit from stage to stage, I'd have Mirael in the middle as a general goto, and move her to the top/bottom slot - or maybe even the frontline when she's overlevelled enough, when necessary

[pale kettle]

Hm okay

[spare robin]

Hard to say without seeing the fight, but it might be Estrilda, she's a bit divy-bursty. Putting Daimon in the top slot might help maybe?

[pale kettle]

Im just confused that mirael is that good, she has only 3 abilities

[spare robin]

She's very good up to around level 160, largely because you're guaranteed to be able to get her to L+ quite easily, which makes her easy to overlevel

[pale kettle]

And after level 160?

[spare robin]

Diamon is the easiest carry to build and switch over to when you go beyond 160, but it will vary a bit depending on which heroes you actually pull

[pale kettle]

Okay I just have the problem that daimon is on my wishlist since the beginning but I never got him

[smoky anvil]

he dies just about as fast, I think Raine snipes him? And then hogan dunks on him lol

[pale kettle]

Should I sacrifice gwhyneth for getting mirael to l+?

[spare robin]

Naw, keep her for later, and just start building Mirael as you get more fodder

[charred ermine]

Have you tried placing a gwyn with haste in the middle?

[pale kettle]

Okay

[smoky anvil]

instead of rowan?

[charred ermine]

Like a

Rowan
Thoran (or a merc'ed Arthur)
Gwyn
Brutus (or an estrilda with haste)
Lyca

[smoky anvil]

Unfortunately she dies pretty much instantly

[pale kettle]

@spare robin sorry for the ping but if I have Rowan would it be a good idea to get nemora too?

[charred ermine]

Oof, definitely raine's doing

[smoky anvil]

yeah, I have no way of dealing with all the threats I think

[spare robin]

Nemora is definitely nice to have, but she's relatively low on the wilder priority list by now, so you don't need to focus too much on her, no

[pale kettle]

Okay, thanks

[eager warren]

anyone that can help me?

[clear sage]

With what @eager warren ?

[eager warren]

with my lineup

[half ridge]

Oo thanks i did that except replaced rowan with leofric and cleared it

[split oar]

ideas?

[spare robin]

Just spamming retries with that exact team will probably work eventually, but I usually try to add second carries on top of eironn against teams with tasi, to mitigate her banish a bit

Daimon instead of Tidus, for example

[split oar]

daimon is not built thats the problem

[spare robin]

Saurus or Raku might be alternatives too, I don't have either of them built so I dunno who would work better

[split oar]

will try saurus since raku isnt built either

forgot why i stopped using saurus. Now i remember

[spare robin]

Yeah, he probably just melts I imagine

Tbh, any stage with Tasi is a huge PITA, her kit makes her so damn random to deal with

[split oar]

yep. Ulmus is a pain too

cuz in a 1v2 he will win unless i have safya tidus left

[spare robin]

Could be worth trying to find a spot for fereal to counter ulmus, it disables a lot of his self-healing

[split oar]

dont think he will work unless hes 20/3

can he make kelthur not use swap?

[spare robin]

Hard to skip out on the Eironn+Saf+Skriath core, you probably need Lyca too to get in the pull before Kelthur swaps, so it's not an easy stage with the 5-pull core

I'm not sure tbh

[split oar]

yhea cant skip on lyca

eironn pulls all then hes teleported behind and pushes everyone into safyia field

[vivid copper]

😏

[spare robin]

Can you survive without Safiya? Rowan instead of Tidus might work too, get those ultimates chaining even faster

[split oar]

i dont think i can without safyia let me try

nope 1 shot

[spare robin]

I can't remember what I used on that partiuclar stage either tbh, but I think I did it at a lower deficiency than you're at anyway

[split oar]

i rly need to get eironn and skryath 30

skryath wouldve destroyed these mfers if he had 30si

[spare robin]

Eironn +30 makes a HUGE difference, Skriath +30 isn't as important

[split oar]

i know about eironn, but i like skryath too. eironn is 25 rn skryath 21

[shut bluff]

34-1 is kicking my butt... any recommendations guys and gals ??

[spare robin]

I mean, skriath +30 will absolutely help, but getting Eironn maxed will make a much bigger difference

[visual roost]

Im in super early game....would like a team comp with daimon as main carry....anyone can help?

[charred ermine]

Daimon
Thoran
Rowan
Izold
Shemira (or saveas/Mirael/Tasi for the mean time)

Would be a great start rn in your level

[open kernel]

Swap Shem for Arden to secure wins even harder

[spare robin]

Hogan over Izold as well imo

Daimon, Thoran, Rowan, Hogan, Arden

Izold and Shem should both be left at E+ for the foreseeable future, (especially Shem), going with units you can more reliably level and ascend is going to be better for a while

[visual roost]

Owh

[viral rune]

Hello

Can someone help me about my line up since i m new

[low ravine]

I highly recommend reading through the guides pinned in #classic-questions

[spare robin]

Pinned beginner guides is an excellent point to start, yep 👍

[viral rune]

👍

[cursive cliff]

Any suggestions on teamcomp?

[sterile oracle]

How to win?

[pale kettle]

Eiroon tasi ainz Rowan brutus

[upper fog]

Sorry for the late reply and thank you... Right now I try to get fodder to get Thoran up, as I already got the 8 Copys. For Wilders... Should I try to get Lyca ascended?

BTW got it with your suggestion, thank you

[soft sphinx]

My comp is very interchangeable but who should I make M Izold or Feral to fit into my lineup? I have daimon as main carry rn.

I can make Lyca and Brutus M and very close to making Rowan M just waitng for event

[humble lagoon]

I don't understand this stage. This happens 99% of the time on a supposed "low RNG" stage. SI/Furn should be fine. Are there any specific gear builds I need? I've tried removing and swapping gears and have had no luck with this stage

[sacred verge]

I think you can do it on phone

[pale kettle]

Anyone know what I’m supposed to do with against this shitty team comp?

[sly talon]

Show your heroes...

[pale kettle]

I have more. Hold on

[sly talon]

@pale kettle You have a lot of issues.

1. Only level your 5 main heroes to the highest possible, and put other key heroes on resonating crystal, don't level like 30 heroes.
2. Don't make a hero Legendary Ascension if you can't get them to Legendary+
3. I highly suggest you stop investing into Shemira and go Daimon, Daimon is much much much better.

So with that said, reset all of your heroes that are leveled incorrectly. You should ONLY have 5 heroes leveled, the rest should be on resonating crystal. If you don't have enough spots on resonating crystal, only put the heroes you NEED on the RC.

[pale kettle]

Oh christ.

[sly talon]

This is my hero pool. As you can see, only Daimon, Ferael, Gwyneth, Rowan, and Lyca are leveled. The rest of my needed heroes are being leveled by the resonating crystal.

[pale kettle]

So who would i need to reset then?

[spare robin]

Awesome!
Lyca is definitely nice to have ascended, you'll want to work on her eventually, but she works very well even at E or E+ as well, so she can wait while you build the more stat reliant heroes for the Wilders first, like Raku and Eironn in particular

[sly talon]

Try to reset as many heroes as possible with your diamonds, it's only 20 for one hero. But in the end, you should ONLY HAVE 5 HEROES LEVELED.

[pale kettle]

So leave Eironn, Solise, Thane, Belinda, and Throan?

Like keep them leveled, I mean.

[sly talon]

Your 5 heroes with the highest ascension should be the ones leveled, but that doesn't mean those are the 5 heroes to use during combat. And stop investing in Belinda and Shemira.

[pale kettle]

Okay

[pale kettle]

Do I also need to take out my heroes from resonating crystal? Rn this is what it looks like

[sly talon]

Take out Khasos, Kelthur, Eluard, and Khazard. Replace those with better options, do you have a copy of Rowan or Daimon?

[pale kettle]

Only Daimon

[soft sphinx]

Any advice?

[maiden marsh]

Rowan/fera out for leofric

[pale kettle]

I put Daimon in Crystal. Who else should I put?

[sly talon]

Leave the crystal like that, leave the open slots until you actually need them.

[pale kettle]

Kk

Thanks, my dude.

[soft sphinx]

ive been triyng. but i keep getting mutilated

[pale kettle]

Then what’s our next plan?

[sly talon]

Build Daimon and Rowan.

[pale kettle]

I only have Daimon, but I got you.

[soft sphinx]

Do I just need to lvl up my characters higher? Because this is rough

[half ridge]

Been stuck on this forever, am i just too weak?

[soft sphinx]

i think 160 is where you wanna be

[half ridge]

ah darn, gonna need a lot of blue stuff

[shy pagoda]

Stuck on the same stage, any suggestions?

@spare robin you free?

[slender crag]

stuck on 11-22, any thoghts on what to do?

[spare robin]

Try something like this maybe
Shemira
--- Brutus
Rosaline
--- Talene
Arden

Tasi or Nemora instead of Rosaline might work too

[shy pagoda]

Something is stopping my heroes getting full energy to use ultimates

Arden is dying pretty much instantly

[spare robin]

Yeah, Fereal does that

Try to Swap places on Shemira and Arden

Though if Arden is getting to weak, Tasi might be better in his slot

[spare robin]

You are so close though

Do you have room on the resonance crystal? Lyca instead of Arden might do the trick

[shy pagoda]

Wait really? Looks like I just got destroyed 😂
I'll have a space in 23 minutes

[spare robin]

Putting Nara in the middle back to lock down Fereal might work too

If Shemira gets her ultimate off just once, things will look very different

[shy pagoda]

I've had her do it on a couple runs, but normally dies shortly after. Doesn't heal fast enough to counter them all attacking her at once

Got it, thanks for the help. Nara helped and I put daimon on the front line as she survived well and was able to use ultimate

[spare robin]

Nice!

And yeah, Daimon is really strong, even at just E+ he's already pushing very respectable amounts of damage for you, while also being very tanky. He goes pretty nuts when you get him ranked up, you should work on getting him up to M as soon as you get anothr E+ copy for him

[shy pagoda]

I can take him to L+ now, should I?

[spare robin]

Ah nice, them yeah you can do that, and start building anotver L+ Graveborn so you can get him to M as your next goal

Normally you want to wait until you have 8 copies of. Aunit before taking them beyond E+, but Daimon is so damn strong already at M that he's an exception

Daimon at M is much stronger than even a fully maxed out five star Shemira

[shy pagoda]

Actually I have enough fodder to get him to M

[spare robin]

If you can get him there using just fodder tier units, you're about to rock, yeah

Don't use ascended tier units though, that bites you in the ass later down the line

[spare robin]

You should take a look at the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel, they've got a lot of tips and advice on which units you should be working on at your stage in the game.

In particular, you have fallen into the most common beginner trap of ascending too many units to L without a way to get them up above that, as I'm sure you've already realized, you're stuck at level 140 right now with no way of progressing beyond that

[shut bluff]

34-1 help please guys! It’s killing me

[hard forge]

i ainzed that stage, but you dont have his 9, so it probably wont work

[shut bluff]

😦

Wu kong is the problem he’s just wiping me

[spring robin]

lyca rowan tasi eironn athalia?

[hard forge]

that doesnt sound like a comp that would kill anything

[spring robin]

eironn could with cc

oh nvm maybe not with that level difference

[spring robin]

can you show what other heroes you have?

[shut bluff]

This is working better but still not enough to win

[spring robin]

izold rowan pippa mehira if you have even elite and tasi

[pale kettle]

Can anyone help me with this team comp?

[shut bluff]

Thanks bud ! Played this as didn’t have mehira and it won

[spring robin]

np go read pippa's si20 it's really useful with izold!
requires a bit of luck because of wukong but still better than a lot of choices in these situations

[pale kettle]

How can I beat this stage I'm out of ideas

[pale kettle]

You could use Eironn against that Isabella so she doesn’t screw you over when she ults. Other than that, that’s about it :p

[pale kettle]

Any advice? my entire team gets melted fast

[sly talon]

Anybody help me please? If you would, please DM me if you need my hero pool.

[digital skiff]

Lyca
Brutus
Ferael
Rowan
Daimon

[sly talon]

It did better than my old comp, but the Mirael ult just destroys my Daimon.

[digital skiff]

Like the saying goes,
You aren't stuck untill you tried a 100 times or smthn, just retry for the next 15 minutes and you'll get it

[sour pond]

i can kill first team with ainz albedo rowan ferael arthur, but cant kill second team after

my thorans sig is at 20 most ppl cheese with him first stage

[sharp fulcrum]

Any idea who can tank best to get Farrel dead or just get lucky and charm him

[vocal ledge]

anyone got a team for 35-43?

[hasty kernel]

Can someone tell me what should i make my starting lineup

[sour pond]

did you try arthur - albedo - rowan - ainz -ferael

thats my main comp for single stages, kinda my strongest comp atm

[vocal ledge]

yeah I got past it just took a bit

[storm epoch]

try and split arthur,ferael away from dim if u have gwyn it frees up that combo for the 1st ukyo/nako arent required just as sacrifices to proc albedos 3f repeat until tasi is caught keep lyca if queen isnt an option

[patent hemlock]

Any ideas here? I’ve been stuck for like 3 days almost 4 now.

[spring robin]

can you merc lucretia? (9/9 si30 preference)

[patent hemlock]

Yes I can

[spring robin]

then go ahead and do

• for first team skriath brutus tidus eironn lucretia
• for second team tasi rowan nara ferael daimon

[patent hemlock]

Gotcha, second team works like a charm. Now I just wait for the Lucretia : )

[spring robin]

while you wait try like rosaline lucius joker gwyneth shemira -> rosaline following shemira

if it doesn't work try swapping teams, it might work too

[patent hemlock]

My joker is linked to rosaline, so can’t use them together

[spring robin]

then lyca instead of joker

[patent hemlock]

Got it, I’ll try now

Nah, won’t work. Might have to wait for the luc, shemira gets 1 shot. Not enough good armor for her

[spring robin]

yeah I guess, with lucretia in the first team I mentioned earlier you will 100% get it in less than 5 retries if not 1 retry

[honest storm]

Any ideas? Thanks

[keen jungle]

Chp 14 was pretty ez till this lvl

[stone kraken]

I'm stuck here for a while

been stuck here for a while, halp

[brave oriole]

@stone kraken doesn't look hard tbh. Try
Rosa
Shem
Rowan
Brutus
Lyca/fera

[stone kraken]

I swear I tried this before and it failed, how did it work now... oh, different position, I'm just bad at positioning apparently

thank you

[patent hemlock]

Skriath just immediately dies lol

Skriath immediately, then eironn, then luc.

[novel wedge]

Anyone have solutions for 35-23?

That's not from afk helper

[wraith thicket]

So having troubles with this one talene dies way too quickly on my frontline as soon as talene dies mirael and Arden die both of my frontlines I can’t ascend these are my heroes and uhh does talene have any good replacements until I can ascend her? Same for thoran

[patent hemlock]

Starting to think this isn’t possible, can’t use tasi nara fearel daimon rowan

[pale kettle]

Can someone check my lineup

[half ridge]

is this possible?

[snow sphinx]

Any ideas? Last one for chapter 11

[pale kettle]

And these are my other hero’s

Please let me know if you have any suggestions

[main orbit]

Halp

[pale kettle]

Ainz
Saurus
Brutus
Daimon
Safiya

maybe try this?

[main orbit]

Ok thanks

[pale kettle]

If I doom you, I'm so sorry

[main orbit]

I won thanks so much! @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

[viral rune]

Hello

[boreal river]

Any ideas guys?

[silent epoch]

Need help on this stage. The damage burst is just ridiculous.

[twin dove]

Check afkhelper

Link in pins

[storm epoch]

maybe give one of these a shot pippa/oden can be elite

[silent epoch]

Wow thanks for these. :)

[forest arch]

Can someone help

[elfin rose]

Best lienup against this ?

I couldn't beat them with my normal team BC I'm around 10 levels lower

[snow sphinx]

Im stuck on the last level of chapter 11, just my luck 😂

[storm epoch]

np wish it would show artifacts too though gl!you have everything u need for a double chp push even lvls more than enough hold off on the rc lvling for a bit 👍

[torn eagle]

stuck on 10-27. 3 slots left on crystal, using daimon, rowan, tasi, thoran, fawkes/izode. who else to put on on 120 crystal?

[untold quiver]

I would do Daimon and Grezhul front line. Tasi Rowan and Ferael back line

Yea

[torn eagle]

it worked 🙂 thanks!. didnt think grez over thoran would be better.

[untold quiver]

Grez is one of the top pve units right now. It’s worth to invest him.

[solid sandal]

I’d like some help if anyone is on, misty valley stage 9 thought I’d eventually get it but stuck like chuck

[spare robin]

You can use mercs as much as you want in MV, bringing a big beastly Ainz is worth trying if you haven't already

[hidden crescent]

Any ideas? :/

[elfin rose]

Best lineup for them (btw. I'm a bit underleveled)

[spring robin]

try swapping luc around you need her to survive until all the 4 other are dead, you dont care if skriath dies they’re here to 5 pull

[loud kernel]

any ideas on this? all afkhelper solutions were with daimon i found, i dont have him sadly

[elder gale]

You are very very over leveled. You should blitz through it. Lyca tanks athalia . Daimon either frontlineing ezizh or right behind the frontline next to azizh. And rng ur fight there

Oh wait you dont have daimon. Imo id say swap scroll shemira for daimon but dont take my word for that

Im at 30-19 with Rc 270 and i should be able to push further

You shouldnt try to star units up to 5 stars if you arent a whale stars barely give anything as soon as they hit ascended take them off ur wishlist.its gonna cause you to stay stuck on lower chapters

Also hcp. Rowan and daimon if u wont swap scroll.rowan should be ur first +30 si and daimon is the strongedt pve carry.

[half ridge]

can someone help me with this?

[elder gale]

If you got an e nara use her to pull isabella

[half ridge]

sub out which?

[elder gale]

Fereal or thoran not sure which. Idk if ur rowan is dtrong enough to frontline else us take out thoran put rowan frontline center fereal

[half ridge]

Nara got instantly 1 shot

[elder gale]

Eiron could work too if u got him . Just try to get isabella down as soon as she ults the entire stage ends right?

[half ridge]

ya i might just be too weak

daimon cant even outheal them 1v5

[elder gale]

He cant. Isabella will always one shot him thats why you need something to pull in isa or kill isabella before her ult.

[half ridge]

yeah so nara instantly dies when stage starts

[elder gale]

See what you can do main strength is isa. Maybe assasinate her

Struggling on this

[charred ermine]

Try a

Daimon
Rowan
Lyca
Thoran
Tasi

[elder gale]

no succes at all after 5 tries tasi doesntget her banish off bc of estrilda push

[exotic dew]

Pls help

[storm epoch]

try this alna needs to proc winters call in time to stall for a little longer if barricade isnt an option use drape,grace etc hp artifacts prefer daimon behind brutus but since u mentioned the banish issue ig thisll work

[wheat gate]

Tried afkhelper but still couldn’t pass it any advice?

[next prairie]

Anyone got an idea how can j beat this?

[sick loom]

did you try swapping positions ? shemira/estrilda for tasi/alna

[next prairie]

Like this?

[sick loom]

yea

[next prairie]

dosent seem to work either

wait, i swap nemora for the new trial hero and manged, your a genius thx

Just got to the boss level , can you help me with him too? 🙂

[sick loom]

its almost the same comp, so just try a few more times and hope for rng

[smoky anvil]

Ideas?

[plush pilot]

Hi guys need help on this one pls any advice ?

[sick loom]

@plush pilot try using eironn instead of rowan

[cerulean lichen]

Can anyone help me with this stage?

[plush pilot]

ok thanks

[vivid scaffold]

@digital skiff Agreed

[plush pilot]

where should I place him ?

[sick loom]

where rowan was

[digital skiff]

Who would lorsan link in 1?

[agile roost]

Help pls

[digital skiff]

Ainz
Rowan
Daimon
Lucius
Leofric

[plush pilot]

thanks it works

[vivid scaffold]

Nemora and Ira. So quite nice

[digital skiff]

Aye then do what revo said and give it a solid 50 retries

[sick loom]

sometimes you just gotta give it a few more tries

[plush pilot]

Just got the special rolls on what faction do you suggest me to summon ? (i have 10 of them)

[cerulean lichen]

faction scrolls is almost always graveborn

[plush pilot]

ok thanks !

[sick loom]

yeah, definetly gb, best faction by far

[plush pilot]

will do so then thanks !

[cerulean lichen]

any takers?

[plush pilot]

sorry cant help im new 😦

[agile roost]

Doesn't work

[plush pilot]

So there is my new hero collection should I replace shemira with mirael like the guide suggests for early teams before 160 ? (Or just if you can give me any comp propositions would be great)

[agile roost]

Help pls

[vivid scaffold]

As you've already levelup Shemira, I suppose you can still use her

[plush pilot]

ok thanks

[signal agate]

Any tips for the stage above?

[pale kettle]

can you cc the enemy tasi with like a nara or ferael?

[vivid scaffold]

None of your heroes shall die, as Raine will snowball otherwise. If someone dies early, swap positions or replace him with a tankier hero

[pale kettle]

could this team work after a lot of retries or will I need to switch it up? (no errion or talene or merc options unfortunately)

[past urchin]

Lyca

Rowan
Kelthur
Thoran
Lorsan

@vivid scaffold

Fucking discord update.
Nothing works since :feelstreeman:

[sick loom]

you don't want to put daimon in front of enemy ferael

[pale kettle]

that is the only slot he can be without dying, if i put him in 2 or 5 estrilda and thane drop him in like 2 seconds, 3rd slot is opposite to ferael so that wont work and I need to pull raine in or she shreds everyone

[sick loom]

try daimon on 5 and brutus 2, brutus won't get pushed by estrilda

[digital skiff]

Swap nara with lyca and brutus with sials

[pale kettle]

silas is pretty much useless for me bc no gear for him so he dies before he can put out a cloud

[digital skiff]

Anything on him works better then nothing

[pale kettle]

by no gear I meant no myhtic gear, currently he has e+ and L+ gear on

[sweet heath]

how can i beat this stage

is the difference too big

[pale kettle]

whats the deficit? Im assuming only 3x so it shouldnt be too big but idk

[maiden marsh]

it's like a 60 level deficit, not exactly insurmountable

[sick loom]

@pale kettle
ferael
thoran
eironn
brutus
daimon

[pale kettle]

if I had errion I would have cleared this stage by now i feel like but unfortunately i dont even have a single copy of him and yes he is in my wishlist

[storm epoch]

try this merc an albedo+30 if an option mines free if needed 3/3 too

[sick loom]

oh, not even a copy, that's unlucky

[digital skiff]

I beat that with 220 hero's so nah not big enough

Kinda overlevelled tho

[pale kettle]

2* daimon though so ig that counts for something

[sick loom]

can get to chapter 30 with lvl 220 heroes ?

[maiden marsh]

after nerfs that's a 110 deficit, so certainly doable with a good daimon team

[pale kettle]

Tru7h would you say that this is doable with this comp or no?

[digital skiff]

I hit 31 with 260 but if i had ainz instead of daimon then hell yeah 110 deficit isn't big

[loud kernel]

do u need faction gear to use t3 stones or can use any gear ?

[sick loom]

stage 27 atm, i might push harder then, was going slowly to get mythic gear

[digital skiff]

That comp is trash imo since brutus and nara don't do anything

[digital skiff]

Faction 5*

[maiden marsh]

stalling for gear is outdated and minimally effective with the amount we get

[fast perch]

Hey y'all. First time really posting. Can't get past here, my highest hero is Nara (Graveborn) @ 140. Here is a screen shot of what I tried at first..... Help..?

[digital skiff]

You can stall at ch30 for t3

[pale kettle]

brutus is there to stall thane and nara pulls the raine otherwise she shreds my whole team idk what else to do, the lyca haste isnt enough to help me get my ult before raine kills me

[smoky anvil]

Anyone have any ideas for this stage?

[digital skiff]

Rng where ferael stuns raine, brutus could be swapped for lyca and nara for uh,thoran or silas

[pale kettle]

wukong insteaf of serius?

[fast perch]

will try, thanks

did it, thank you!!

[half ridge]

is this impossible?

[wheat gate]

Any help?

[sick loom]

did you try with a nara ?

[half ridge]

nara gets 1 shot instantly

i only have E nara

[sick loom]

i mean, if isabella ults, its over

[pale kettle]

switch daimon away from grez and use nara vs the isabella (add gear to nara if she keeps dying too fast, she should be able to pull the isabella bc you have lyca haste)

[signal agate]

I only have ferael but would he stop the banish?

[signal agate]

Thats just the thing usually everyone would be occupied by eironn freeze and tasi sleep but since the tasi banishes my eironn i cant distract anyone therefor everyone dies

[pale kettle]

He might not stop the banish but he can certianly delay it for quite a bit I think

[signal agate]

Nope im gonna be stuck here prob untill i can merc this stage

[pale kettle]

you should be fine, it might just take a lot of retries

[signal agate]

All of them were still alive at the end

[pale kettle]

try serius rowan frontline, tasi errion derael

[signal agate]

My main reason for wanting to get this ch out of the way is so i can swap seirus for daimon

[sleek galleon]

Would any of these be a possible combo for this?

[pale kettle]

u have a nara to cc the ferael?, if not since you have Nemora at A you can probably put Nemora in Lucius's spot

[sleek galleon]

I have a nara, but they're just elite

Nemora did the trick! Thanks!

[pale kettle]

np, and nara can work at elite or elite+ mine is at e+ and a pretty big level deficit but she can stall long enough, juts might need to retry a bit and give her gear

[ashen wolf]

Whats the best line up with these characters? Just imagine every Character is lvl 50

[vivid scaffold]

Max out Wukong and put whatever around he Will carry

[ashen wolf]

What should I put around? Im new to the game lol

[vivid scaffold]

Hogan Rosaline Mirael and Arden

Should be fine for now 👍👍

[ashen wolf]

Ok thx

[high grotto]

Trying to make better teamcomp

[timid badger]

I want to swap my 5-star shem (SI 26) for either Raku or Oden, which one would be better? Already have eironn, ferael, daimon, and lucretia fairly built.

[next prairie]

Can anyone help? Cant beat it

[woven mason]

shouldn t shem be your carry? why estrilda has more levels then shem?

[next prairie]

welli thought she is stronger

u think i should reset them both and level shemira more?

[woven mason]

for start, estrilda is bad for campaign and she works only in faction tower. But since she s M you can t run away from her. Second. Shemira doesn t even work as carry before 161 so yes, it s very important that you reset them and put max amount of levels in shem and then level up estrilda. Third, I m 99% sure that you re foddering ascended heroes so pls stop doing that

[next prairie]

re foddering asc heros?

and i reset and leveld shemira to 172 estrila 154

[woven mason]

put shemira to 180 and then level up estrilda

[next prairie]

ok then

[woven mason]

yes, pls read guides pinned in questions channel. You aready did pretty big damage to your account

[glad acorn]

Help pleases

[pale kettle]

do you have a thoran?

[west walrus]

Do you have any form of Brutus, even at E

[pale kettle]

i think he has an e+ brutus underneath the nara

[shy pagoda]

Any ideas for this stage?

[pale kettle]

if saveus is the issue you can try daimon/talene brutus frontline, shemira nara rosaline/rowan backline

[vivid scaffold]

Tasi will help to CC the strong damages too

[shy pagoda]

Nara is pulling in saveus but dying in one hit straight after

Got it

[pale kettle]

shes not really there for the damage but mostly just to stall, maybe you can try nemora and hope she charms saveus? nvm then

[shy pagoda]

Thanks guys. Used rose and brutus front line, shemira, nara, daimon back

[pale kettle]

ayy grats

[shy pagoda]

Next one is worse though so that's always fun 😂

[void hamlet]

Could I ask for someone to rate my current line up? I’ve got shemira, desira, thoran, lucrieta, and grezhul

[golden finch]

@summer cedar idek what to even explain lol what i specifically have trouble with

[summer cedar]

oh you told me ur mirael was lvl 140. I'm much less confident in clearing this at 120.

[golden finch]

yea

[summer cedar]

wait why do ur two pics have diff lvls?

[golden finch]

cause the second one was a new ss rn but i still have the same amount of heros

[summer cedar]

ok. try talene golus arden mirael rosa/daimon. mirael has to ult and arden has to root

[golden finch]

ok do i put talene and golus in the front?

[summer cedar]

yes that's a 1-5 formation. read the numbers on the floor

[golden finch]

that didnt work

[summer cedar]

it should. did arden root. did mira ult. what was left. talk to me

[golden finch]

arden was able to root, and mirael was able to use ult but the right after they did it their health was too low and talene was dying quickly so i only got heals for a couple of seconds

[pale kettle]

do you have a nara you can put into your crystal by any chance?

[golden finch]

let me check

@pale kettle i dont

[pale kettle]

rip I was going to suggest using a nara to grab someone in the backline who was giving you the most trouble

[summer cedar]

when rosa was in, did she ult in time for mira to ult a 2nd time? when daimon was in, how did he do? last up? which enemy was last up?

[golden finch]

@summer cedar daimon died right after golus died which was quick, rosa didnt get her ult so mirael wasnt able to ult twice

[summer cedar]

ok, and was rosa anywhere close to ulting b4 she died?

[golden finch]

she wasnt

[south hamlet]

Are there any good lineups I can make for chapter 14? stuck pretty hard right now in it. (I know I have made mistakes with hero ascensions)

[pale kettle]

daimon brutus frontline, oden nara/nemora safiya backline might work for a lot of stages

[shy pagoda]

I'd put rosaline on your crystal if you have space

[south hamlet]

I could replace Kaz on my crystal for her

[glad acorn]

Yes I have an E thoran lvl 1

[pale kettle]

also why did you make L nemora and a M nemora? just wondering

[pale kettle]

put thoran into your crystal and let me look at where u got stuck again

[south hamlet]

Only been playing a little over a month, I know I definitely screwed up with my heroes

[golden finch]

she wasnt able to ult

[south hamlet]

I gotta get 2 more Nemoras so I can fix my M one

[pale kettle]

try talene thoran frontline, brutus daimon nara backline @glad acorn

[summer cedar]

so try daimon at 5 a few more times. will have to rerun it to rng nemora charm. u don't have any cc for position 5 which is unfortunate - I expected more cc or a brutus by this point. could even consider silvina at position 5 if isa is giving a lot of trouble.

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions

[south hamlet]

I got a few of those beginner guides saved

[twin dove]

I merced izold expecting him to rekt this but he insta dies

[shy pagoda]

Dying very fast here, any ideas?

[iron finch]

maybe merc grez instead, he has dmg reduction against mage

[solid sandal]

First time trying to ask for help with this

[verbal crescent]

How to beat it ? I'm stuck here

[proven chasm]

I know no one opens this but any general ideas for 23-60? It’s kicking my ass 😩

[formal yarrow]

let brutus tank athalia ig ?

[proven chasm]

Yeah I switched to trying that afterwards. Makes the fight last like another 2 seconds haha

[untold quiver]

This is just a matter of power levels tbh. Team comps won’t matter if your heroes die too fast to not having enough power.

[proven chasm]

I figured 😩 just gotta wait for enough fodder to filter in to finish my 5th A hero then

[untold quiver]

Thoran works well for this stage against the dark cloak guy. Put him up front and Brutus for athalia. You’re going against a burst comp so you’ll need either heavy cc of survival until your Daimon ramps up.

[proven chasm]

Okay yeah throwing him in is actually helping a bit. Thanks! I’ll keep playing around with it

That’s basically how I’d cleared the last Athalia stage. One tank blocking her and the other protecting Daimon long enough to ramp

Well I went ahead and pushed Thoran to M since he’s next anyways. And that at least for the fight down to Raine/Thane. So I think I’ll be able to rng it eventually 🙌🏻

[proven chasm]

Managed to clear it. Thanks for the advice! 😄

[hybrid bolt]

Can someone help me build a third team for legends challenger tournament? Most of the team comps I read about require Rowan

[dusk portal]

been stuck here for like 3-4 days need help

[pale kettle]

What should my lineup be

Help

[storm epoch]

cant see if u have oden or not this might work for now

[hybrid bolt]

No oden, great thanks! @storm epoch

[steel island]

What build can I use? Except of Mirael, Rowan, Rosaline, Wukong, Luci

[solid sandal]

Anyone have any help?

[boreal crown]

I've been stuck here for a bit, any idea how to beat? I know about my mistakes on L tiers

[charred ermine]

Try mercing an athalia and do a

Belinda
Tasi
Eirron
Lyca
Athalia

[warm spire]

For PvE (I can reset characters too)

@ me with answer please I’m new player

[charred ermine]

All info you need is on #classic-questions and check the pinned messages 😁 @warm spire

[warm spire]

Who’s my best tank

And what 3 supports should I use please @

[vast meadow]

I have no idea how to solve this, I don’t have maxed out call

[sleek delta]

Any suggestions?

[inland egret]

@sleek delta rowan lyca ferael leofric daimon

[vivid scaffold]

Hardly stuck on this level. I die very fast. I guess Raine snowfalls afterwards. I tried to Thoran cheese too but Brutus is a hard counter

[rose cedar]

How can i fix my name ?

[vivid scaffold]

Note: I can merc heroes for the level above ☝️

[prime plaza]

What team would work here?

[dense aspen]

@prime plaza Have you tried https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=35&stage=45 ?

[pale kettle]

I only really started a week ago and wanted to know if my progress has been fine? Or what units should i be more focus on?

[jade shore]

how do i pass this stage

these are my heroes

[exotic drum]

am i doing something wrong here? or am i just underleveled. chapter 8-40

[spare robin]

Nothing extremely wrong, and you're not very underlevelled either, you can match that difference if you've got the right units. Can you post your unit box?

[exotic drum]

oh wait nvm i magically cleared it, i activated some library union buffs

[spare robin]

Ah, well there you go, lol

[exotic drum]

do still give me advice on how to progress though if you have any~

[elfin rose]

Hey im also Stuck at a level similar to Crystalmon what is the best lineup against these?

I put down all levels because I wasn't even close

[spare robin]

You can more or less keep going as you are, you've got a good baseline going. Check out the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel if you haven't already, there's a lot of great info there

[elfin rose]

And I might need a full new team BC I can't deal with Vedan

[exotic drum]

aight thanks

[elfin rose]

He just clears all my heroes at the end with his bats

I can get all heroes to lvl 100 so I'm not really underleveled either

[spare robin]

You should take a look at the pinned guides as well, ascending Thoran (or anyone else) to L that early is a bit of a trap, the game does a terrible job at communicating the fact that ascenscions need to be done carefully

[elfin rose]

Yeah I know that's what I saw a bit to late that's why I didn't ascend these yet

[spare robin]

As for a general team lineup with your units, and something to beat that stage, lets see

[elfin rose]

Daimon does great work but she just keeps dying

[spare robin]

Yeah, Daimon can be a bit squishy, he needs a bit of babysitting

[elfin rose]

I think I got very lucky with my pulls at the start but I just don't know how to get this level

[shy pagoda]

But once daimon gets going, he's sick.

[elfin rose]

Yeah but before I can get her first ult she's at 20% hp and just dies to vedans bats

[sterile slate]

could someone help with my lineup? i have 4 heroes i am happy with, but i think the 5th is no good and needs to be reset and replaced

[spare robin]

Something like this might work

Lyca
-- Thoran
Mirael
-- Wukong
Rowan

[elfin rose]

Should I ascend anyone ?

[spare robin]

Where you replace Wukong with someone like Daimon a bit later, he will start falling off

[elfin rose]

I send you a pick of that as well

[spare robin]

Your main priority should be ascending Mirael to L+, and overlevelling her ~20 levels ahead of everyone else. But don't use Gwyneth to ascend her, wait until you have more fodder tier units for her
You can try to get her all the way to 120 already now though, if you can

[elfin rose]

K I try my best I message you in 5 minutes if I was able to beat it

[sterile slate]

my team is the first 5 heroes, minus the trial heroes. i think i should replace the lady on the horse (the last 60 unit), any ideas who to replace with?

6-12 btw

[spare robin]

Something like this should be a pretty strong lineup that early on, I reckon:
Wukong, Tasi, Lucian, Estrilda and Athalia

As for progressing further, take a look at the pinned beginner guides in the #classic-questions channel, they've got a lot of great info on who to focus on in the earlygame, and how to efficiently use the resources you get

[sterile slate]

i thought daimon was meant to be pretty good? but i should reset him in the cart then?

[spare robin]

He absolutely is, but he starts taking off in the midgame, he's not as great early on

[sterile slate]

i should reset daimon in the cart?

[elfin rose]

@spare robin I did even worse then before lmao

[spare robin]

Yeah, at that stage of the game you should only be ascending and levelling the five fodder tier units and placing them on the crystal pentagram.

Start working on ascending and levelling Mirael, Saveas, Arden, Silvina and Hogan, all the way to L+

[sterile slate]

i am auto ascending whenever i can, i read guides about the fodder units, and i didnt really get it tbh

[spare robin]

Heh, yeah it's a bit counterintuitive.
The main thing is, in order to get any unit to L+, you need to pull four copies of it. This is very easy to do with the fodder tier units (the blue ones) but is much harder to do with the ascended tier units, (the purple ones)

If you focus too much on ascending the purple units, you risk getting into the situation where you get level-capped and can't progress any further, because you don't have the copies you need to actually ascend them

This will never happen with the fodder units, they're so much easier to get enough copies of that you're always going to be able to take them all the way to L+, and their level cap of 160

That, combined with the fact that the fodder tier units are actually pretty damn good at that stage of the game, makes them a much more safe bet to go with

[sterile slate]

so those are the 4 heroes i should have supporting my main dps carry? or all 5 should be rares?

[spare robin]

The actual team you use can be different, you can put all your other units into the resonance crystal slots, and they will automatically match the lowest level of your five fodder units

You're mainly focusing on ascending and levelling the fodder tier units because that guarantees that you're going to easily be able to bring your team up all the way to level 160

[elfin rose]

@spare robin I tried it with that now around 10 times

[spare robin]

Vedan still the issue?

[elfin rose]

No all now lmao

[spare robin]

ah, lol

[elfin rose]

Wait a sec I send you a pick

[spare robin]

Try taking out Wukong and adding Daimon instead, Wukong starts falling behind at around those levels, so he might already be obsolete

[elfin rose]

Rowan just dies early together with mirael

[spare robin]

That's actually much closer of a fight than it looks like

Mirael is just barely not getting her ultimate off, if she has time to lob off one of those, things will look very different

[elfin rose]

I did it

Daimon MVP she just destroyed the girl that picks of Mirael and Rowan

All survived with around 30-50% hp

Thx 😁

[spare robin]

Replacing Rowan with Safiya might have worked too, Safiya does a really good job at countering units like Silvina, worth having her at the crystal in case you need her, if you have space

[shy pagoda]

Any ideas for this?

[spare robin]

Hoh, that's a pretty nasty stage actually

[elfin rose]

@spare robin Houston we have a problem 😅

[spare robin]

@shy pagoda Something like this maybe?

Lyca
-- Talene
Rowan
-- Daimon
Athalia/Nara

[elfin rose]

@spare robin am I just underleveled ?

[shy pagoda]

Dying pretty fast still but I'll run it a few times for some rng

[spare robin]

Might partially be the issue, level differences are a bit finicky at those stages, and you often have a limited toolbox of units to work with. I would try adding Safiya there, instead of either Lyca or Rowan

[spare robin]

Using Athalia AND Nara might work too actually, to lock down both Isabella and Shemira a bit. Replacing Lyca with Athalia for example

If Daimon actually lives long enough that is, if he can't survive on the frontline, swapping him and Rowan might work better too

[jade shore]

can someone help

[shy pagoda]

I'll give it a shot

[elfin rose]

@spare robin safiya just insta dies

[spare robin]

Silvina jumps her instead of the others, before she has the time to get her pyramid zone up then, I assume?

[elfin rose]

Jip dashes into her gets stunned and dies

[spare robin]

Figured, yeah she tends to do that. Silvina always jumps on top of the weakest squishy with the lowest defense

[elfin rose]

K maybe swap her armor?

[spare robin]

Worth a try