#lineup-help
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Portals is oden pippa right? I don’t like raku’s style lol
Yep
And raku can be fun
Holy crap
But then you don’t have arthur for ainz and brutus for daimon, isn’t it a problem?
Here's a cheaper one
He looks brutal ^^ i’ll build him since i don’t have any specific wilder to do atm anyway
Got past it. Switched in mireal.
Wanna see brutal check out oden walking over rosaline
Oden is definitely cooler that raku
And i have everything i need for that
Ive reached 33 and am currently struggling to find a 4th team
Im using ainz, 5 pull, daimon+izold+thoran any ideas for a 4th team?
Im trying to build raku too
Ainz
5 pull
Thoran
Daimon
Raku for 5x fights
Ah yeah completely forgot why i +30 thoran lmao
Joker does alright within a gweneth comp
No idea why they'd be running a gwyn when they have 5 better carries but sure
Gwyn raku is a thing right?
Gwyn is just a cc bot there but it's an option. Not one that I need to use though.
Also is there a comp that saurus can fit in?
Not really, he sucks in campaign for the most part.
So its safe to link him with dims right?
Yes
Alrighty tyvm
Can't seem to pass this one, anyone's got any idea what i could do?
Any advice?
If someone can advice me for this stage, i would be very grateful... Mehira is very tanky in last phase
Try rowan mira arden back
help
Merc that stage. I believe khasos does well, but lots of strong mercs can work. A 309 antandra if you can find would crush it
lol that bad
Yes, you will struggle to win without mercs
I need some help with this I tried pulling mehira but it dosent do anything I can't tell who Tasi banishes and the ezizh is very tanky Eironn and mehira are the main damage dealers
I've checked afk helper but nothing seems to work
I am currently on 6-18. What should my main campaign pushing team be?
I just don't want to to invest in the wrong characters
Eating s**t, need help 😂
Any ideas?
So I can just keep trucking on? No need to worry about lvling a bad character? I just didn't know if I had a good endgame character that I should be building currently
Shem can boost you early on, plus there’s a cart that lets you reclaim spent resources on levels later on
for 20 gems
Level up wukong above all other people on main team once your characters go past 120 focus on mireal/saveas until level 160
Thank you ^^
Yeah
Its way too early to have a main team
When you hit lvl 100 on all of them sure
But you should have a main carry
you're gonna wanna make mirael legendary+ and overlevel her as carry. stuff like this is laid out in the guides pinned to #classic-questions
That's Shem right now. Or as Siren suggested Wu Kong
wukong will be capped if you try to overlevel him, so you'll want to switch to mirael carry and pump all your levels into her
try. daimon lyca.. cecillia rowan shemira
Didnt work
swap the shemira with lucious?
can you guys help me please?
put talene front line lol
swap her with shemira
halp
theres a guide for that
Still nothing, the nemore is healing them faster then i can kill them and if i put cecilia in the middle she still doesnt manage to kill nemore
you got an oden?
no. dont
Show box
What box?
The place where you can view your heroes
Oh
any ideas for this one? usually alna isnt a problem for last clear but...
Place nara on crystal
try grez up front with alna, then making the backline oden fera daimon
Ok did it
oden is getting sniped by kelthur is the issue i'm running into there
idk maybe just need more reroll
god kelthur's targeting is some pepega shit. try oden middle back yolo
hes getting drained lol rip
What next?
ok, try grez alna ferael oden nara
Charming ferael is great 
reject meta strats, return to chapter 15 fera charm 
oh that looks promising, he can live 15-30s. ill try this more ty
You may be surprised how sneaky it's nem charm
try interchanging grez and daimon, not sure which works better here. backline seems solid though since it makes oden not explode
Get her to pull Isabella
@brisk path use izold, not daimon
well i can exit reroll everything and use a diffrent team lol but izold no items
Ohh, naked izold 
Wait whats the lineup?
This one?
Try front: daimon lyca
Back: nara rowan tasi
lyca dies in the first 3/4 seconds
and still lost
how do i tell that?
When Isabella is close to an enemy she can steal energy from that person
Try replacing tasi with saurus and maybe replace nara with eironn
Started a new account yesterday after a six monthish break from the game. Would you pull the trigger and ascend izod right now or wait
go touch some grass my guy jesus christ
Anyone has 35-60 no grezhul no lucretia ? And over lvl 425
lol this worked i guess. thanks @brave oriole @maiden marsh
oh if I saw you had joker I'd have been all over that lol. he's great against monofaction teams
didnt realize he'd go untouched in the swap slot
Im on the last level and really want to get out of this chapter
Trying to get Chp35 done today and struggling with Floras
ye i give up, thanks for the help anyways <3
i managed to cheese team1 and so far Alna/GB is the furthest ive gotten to clearing team2 but still not really close. Alna & Daimon keep getting melted 15-25 seconds in
Hmm
@pale kettle never pull Brutus 
I tried to cheese with Lucretia but pain
With lucretia? Should not be hard tbh. Just don't hit Brutus at first with lucretia
Nemora and brutus both give lucretia problems
I just reached multistages what teams could I use
@warm bison just put Brutus front bottom, and daimon at back
I can't destroy Lucius' shields fast enough
Don't use eironn. Try
Ferael
Talene
Lyca
Brutus
Daimon
I still can't kill even a single enemy unit
What's your daimon gear and arti?
Ainz don't rlly need rowan I think, you can use lyca for haste with ainz and rowan with daimon Brutus
Aha this its s why. First, daimon use dura's call, second, he needs better shoes for haste
3 furn are more than fine for daimon
My graveborn gear is on Thoran rn
Well, restart the battle and get the gear
Changing the artifact and boots worked ty :)
Np
Can somebody help me with this stage, I’ve been stuck on this stage for a couple of hours
Where daimon is, Isabella hit at first, try daimon back of thoran
Like this?
Well, kinda, the gb will die anyway, by silvina
Need help with this one. Ainz and Gwyn only formations left. No Numisu sadly
Cc ferael?
How do I beat this
Hi @charred magnet have you tried looking on https://afkhelper.nax.is/ or youtube by typing "afk arena 27-24" ?
any tips on how to approach this?
don't put fera in front of a mage. this stage sucks rng-wise, try the site and then retry till it works
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I get completely destroyed by mehira any tips?
Put call on nara to make sure she interrupts mehira bats
I’m reaching the 3 wave round and I’m wondering how I can beat it when I have bad heroes on the second
Need help on how to beat this level
Best 4 teams i can make?
ainz
daimon
izold
5 pull
Which units go with the daimon and izold teams specifically
izold can have mehira rowan silas grez
daimon can have ferael tasi and some flex
But i use silas in my ainz team, who should i replace him with
ainz albedo arthur ezio nako or something
silas isn't going to be used with ainz 99% of the time
Any idea how I can work Athalia into a lineup? Been working on her since I started but I’m not actually sure how to use her
Alright thx
Any advice for a decent general purpose team?
@digital skiff im in chapter 30 . Where u at
shimera comps pls
I use Athalia merc every week for Thoran Cheese or in Daimon comp
is shimera good
I don't have Thoran's +30 and I don't have Daimon ascended, but I do have enough copies of him, so I'm just waiting on food. What else do you run with Daimon and Athalia?
kind of hard stuck here right now. trying to clear chapter 12 tonight so i can get my last copy of daimon. advice?
Any suggestions? Have tried different comps
What is that?
its in the pinned
basically has a bunch of winning comps for every stage
A useful website
Why are you using mirael on frontline?
I see, thanks
i was told to do it a moment ago by someone else xD @woven mason
You can literally go there, study what comps can win a stage and then make your own version to pass that stage
Have you tired Brutus or Thoran as tanks?
@woven mason thoran was my perma tank for a while, someone else told me try this comp out and it worked for a stage so shrug
2 carrys like ainz and daimon generally isnt good
Oh bad i having shermia copies only so i fused with ainz. Im cursed
They don't really help each other, it s probably better if you have bunch of supports and tanks but if you Don t have anything better then you can use both of them
I can make lucius mythic and having saurus mythic . I think these both dont help with my line up. Other Supports are e or e+
For the time being ill using ainz and daimon . Hope ill get something useful to use
As you progress further in the game you ll have to switch between different supports and tanks depending on enemy team. There are teams like ainz team where you can t switch more then one hero but generally you won't have one team to fit everything. One team maybe beat one stage but it won't beat next stage
Am I able to ask what team would be best out of the heroes I have for early game here
Some heroes Don t need to be more then E to work. Nara, Fawkes, Brutus etc.
Ya well said. Planning to garrison albedo after getting prince . Then ill go with the flow the game let me to do
I have enough resources to buy prince but it seems like after 31days only i can exchange , Im not sure
Yea im using it when needed . Thanks man you are helpful
Either calculate how much RSS you ll get in those 31 days and use garrison accordingly or use only extra resources. In any case prince should be priority above garrison. Btw have you tried using Tasi instead ainz or daemon?
Or arden
Im using tasi in some matchups , i got win sometimes. Shes fragile even in backline shes dying idk how lol . But she got me few wins
Can anyone help me with this?
Okay ill prioritize prince over any other . Then ainz second month garrison 👍
That s normal. Tasi survives more only wit her furniture
Oh its a long run then. How long it takes you to get chap 32 as f2p ? 2year i hope 😅
I Don t see why that Como wouldn't work
Just beat em with 3 pull rowan and saurus Ferael
6 months XD
Wth in 6mnths is it even possible to ascend 5 heros ? I cant imagine lol
I d probably be higher but I m managing 4 acc and that really eats my time for progress
The higher in campaign you go, more events, copies and resources you get. That s why I support fast progress over waiting and more risky choices
i started in mid december i got 15 a and im ch 30
Then you are very good in this game. Im often getting stucked on campagin for 5days . Nealry 40days still in chap 18 . Damn you guys are pro
i made multipple mistakes early game
Can you say something ? It will guide me
Like every month you get misty valley where I get around 30-35 fodders from blue stones and 6 elite heroes from purple stones
For me its unlocked just now and i finished it . im getting chap 17 rewards only. So 700 rare shards and 30k guild coins . Its huge for me lol
Sadly no purple 😑
You got purple stones from silver medals
But deal is 60purple or 700 rare shards. I dont wanna gamble with 1 elite rather than 11 rare rite?
How do I beat this last wave? This the most I can do
Again depends on what you need. When I didn't have anybody 8 copies then I would take purple. Where I had enough copies for ascending then I used blue stones. With time you ll have a lot more copies then you have folders and you ll be more happy that you got fodder the fareal copy
Have you tried to cheese it? You would need lotion for it
Ya you rite. If i get fodder i can make my first ascended Shermia/Ainz.
Idk why but after I posted here I always got good rng lol
Maybe you should try using macros then :)
Can Any help me? Stuck..
That s one of the weirdest comps that I be seen for someone in that high chapter
Why not using Nara, Luca and rowan? And using daemon with ainz when you have so many strong supports
And I Don t really use joker but I Don t see how he fits in this comp
@woven mason first time Any cant help for ainz in any position ainz dead with full tank and support help Jokker and diamon cant kill..
Lol im using this comp. But instead of joker using im rowan but at chap 18 lol
Ainz Isn't that good without albedo and Arthur at high deficits. He dies too quickly
Plus fareal would help you a lot
That s fine. Buy Arthur when you can
can u guyz help me on this one please?
Getting fried at 29-44
i just used a merc to get past 29 54
I'm so stuck, jeez
What should I do with my lineup? I’m currently stuck at chapter 8 with my lineup: mirael - daimon - luciel - desira - rowan
2 questions, what's the best line up and based on the heros I got, which hero I should focus on to level up next for the line up. Thanks in advance
rowan, eiron, ferael, lyca. u need 1 more heroes, ideally skriath 3/9 furniture or safiya
Thanks, i will do that
What’s a good team with a these heroes I know it’s not much
How did get all of those
Hey, so, I'm a bit stuck on this second part, any tips?
Need line up for 37-53
Rng
Any ideas here?
Where do I go from here? Obviously grave born but I’m not sure who I should replace moreal with. Also atm I don’t think kethlur is very good. This account a few days old
Try swapping Brutus and Shemira
hi, i wanted to know what's the best team i could do with the heroes i have :)) my current team is 1- izold; 2- wu kong; 3- rowan; 4- mirael; 5- lyca
should i use izold in my team
Izold isn't helpful early game, so no I wouldn't recommend it
k
Nara across mehira
Should i change something? I want to build a single team for 9-15 progress( i'm gonna level them properly)
Tried that
Is she interrupting bats?
Yes, everyone else gets melted
Well they'll get melted harder if you don't interrupt bats
Brutus and Mehira survive
Sounds winnable
They at max health
It is, I just beat it!
Who could've guessed.
Help pls
I can swap oden to silas ? this is my gb tower lineup
Im currently stuck here. What can i do to make this comp work?
I'd try to put the Saurus in the team and take the Rowan out. And I'd take out the nara and put in the Eironn.
Okey thx
@random sorrel change wu kong for a mauler or wilder hero. Then use mirael to ascend lucius or rosaline and level a wilder or mauler instead so you have 2 LBs, 1 GB, 1 Wilder and 1 Mauler. Or also reset one of the LBs for a second of some other faction. You dont wanna bother leveling celepogeans because you wont be able to ascend them fast, you can use them in the resonating crystal later but if you level them they will just stop your other heroes from leveling because they will be levelcapped at 100 or 120 which will prevent your other 4 from being levelled above 140 or 160, and will also cap your heroes in the resonating crystal at 100 or 120
You want to ascend and level 5 heroes. 1 of each faction to share the resource load. and then a 2nd of one of the factions because there are only 4 factions. So you can keep leveling and wont be levelcapped. The actual heroes you choose wont be that important. For now I would just level Arden and Saveas for maulers and wilders until 160 and choose later what real heroes to use depending on who you have most copies of, and then just use those two as fodder.
It didnt work
ok
You should try with talent or Brutus with daemon Tasi and rowan
And rowan in backline
Hello, could someone give some tips for a comp that works for legend tournament? My current comp I can barely stay top 20
Help
This team would be good until i reach 15-1?
Any tips guys?
@dawn vine have you tried rowan instead of Lyca/Tasi ? Could be worth a shot as long as Daimon ults 1st. Put Daimon front line see if he survives
Tried most combinations, belinda just destroys my daimon
@dawn vine have you tried looking on the pinned website ? Here what I found for example : https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=26&stage=56
This worked thanks
I will take a look thanks 🙏
no worries. I'm sure you can figure out something. Look at where players position their Daimon and adapt your positioning with your own hero lineup
Man I'm hitting such a wall here, I don't have the feeling I belong here, like if I'm way too low level.
Leveling Shem to 240 will take forever haha, I first need to bring everyone to 200, and I'm nowhere near having enough dust ^^
@delicate gyro you've hit the dust wall, which has happened to all of us. It's perfectly normal, it'll take some patience. I'm not sure about putting Daimon in your team. He is a carry, but you already have your shemira dealing loads of damage. I'd replace him with Brutus for meat shield in frontline, or even try and cheese with an Arden maybe. If you have a thoran too why not.
it's definitely doable at your level, with Daimon as carry you can even pass the level with only lvl 200
have a look at comps here : https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php
Is this a good set up i think shemira is elite+
Who do you reccomend I merc? Or replace in my current line up?
@random sorrel Arden is a rare. You will get endless copies of him soon enough
Good morning, could anyone help me with this lineup? I’m stumped
Hey thanks mate, actually I'm trying to switch from Shem to Daimon as carry (hopefully I'll be able to A him soon).
But because she is higher level than others, she's even a better tank than my Brutus.
So yup ... You see her here, but she has a tank role haha
thoran flora daimon rowan lyca
Any idea on this one
Nara
Thoran
Eironn
Rowan
Lyca/Lorsan
thane can be a bit painful
Any suggestions? This is 10-40
@worthy oracle i strongly recommend reading the guide by Phoenix pinned in #classic-questions
@heavy yacht have you tried looking on the website pinned in this text channel ?
you can put a campaign stage see what other people used to give you ideas of compositions for you to try out and test yourself
gave it a try but instant one shot :/
yup but couldn't find anything that works :/
That's all anyone says, and if been following it to a tee...both picture and written. your response doesn't even remotely relate to my question for line up help.
Well you're stuck because your Daimon is only E+. Also I see you have a mirael lvl 152 which is your carry, why do you not use her ?
Also if you have a merc, try and get a hero like Talene or even another Daimon, depending on your friends list
Any idea?
Hey everyone, I'm stuck mid chapter 34 and I don't know what team to build for 4 and 5. For now i've been using Ainz OS, Eirronn 5 pull, thoran cheese and those 3 are pretty reliable. However for the remaning 2 teams it has been "random bulls*/t go !". It won't be enough in the long run... ^^" Any idea of team i can build in 4 and 5 without getting rid of my 3 primary ?
@lyric viper i'd suggest looking at the replays and what other players to get an idea. You can fit in Godcomp in there for team 4, and then there are many different options. You can also look on https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php and search in chapter 34 boss stage, there're plenty of examples out there 🙂
there is also Alna Grez Daimon comp, which is quite an investment
help
@celest zinc have you tried taking out Isabella and putting Tasi, Lyca or Nemora ?
ok
@violet igloo Thanks for the tips ! I want to build lucretia first, shall i go for alna instead ? (mu lucretia is Leg+ and 1 copy)
Alna daimon grez seems to much of a grind looking at my current heroes :(... Plus my godcomp is not ready, ezizh is leg+ and mehira e+ :d
I have 400 red chest, maybe ferael +30 or gwyneth +30 might help ?
Can anyone help me?
Can someone help, also before you ask nara cannot counter belinda, belinda just gets dragged and 1 shots nara
When I'm just starting out, which faction is the best to use scrolls on, GB or LB?
Gb only good lb heroes are like rowan and gwen, also that should be asked in #classic-questions
Mb but thanks
@lyric viper fera +30 yes, but not gwyn. she falls of chapter 35+
Oh ok thanks ! And lastly, ferael 30 or izold ? (sorry to bother you this much ^^')
@summer quartz I suggest you read the guide pinned in #classic-questions it'll help you a lot 
@lyric viper no problem dude. Ferael +30. Izold +30 is only for PvE
Ok 🙂 will try to beat this chapter with ferael ! 🙂 Thanks !
Anybody able to take a shot at this?
Also alna cant frontline due to bel and ulric
Any ideas?
Post your whole box that's an idea
Daimon
King A
Rowan
Grez
Lyca
Try that
One sec
Did daimon get nerfed
And do you have any help or tips for my stage
No, why do you say this?
Oh nvm the way you said something
It's not nerfed, the ferael it's draining your energy 
Yeah, I've meant that Brutus debuff on enemies, it's huge for daimon dmg
Oh
So you can use fawkes somewhere there to coffin ferael, or nemora to charm it
So what kind of lineup should I use
Swap albedo and brutus
altready tried
worked better with ferael instead of tasi tho
nvm i forgot tasi lol
Any way you could help me out too if you have time
send your lineup and box
Try daimon brutus rowan nara lyca
In that order?
Anybody know
Yep
Didn't work:/
Try replacing lyca with tasi
Ok
127 retries
Worked but bow this stage is kicking my ass
Cool kids, I'm coming
should i merc nara for this
@clear lark nah, but maybe add rowan
alright
Brutus rowan front, lyca ferael daimon back, should be okay. Chalice on rowan
What's a good lineup from this? I'm very bad at this game
Anyone have a clear for 34-4 Crystal 319?!?
i rly need help making a better line up, I’ve been stuck on 9-20 for awhile
Mine not work?
no 😦
I am built different after all 
come close with a few of them
yah, your comps with Oden and GRez kill me. I dont have both so I always have to tweek those comps
Stuck here, just trying to beat ch 21 for the 9k diamonds
1-5chalice,drape,grace,call,eye
Anything I can do to improve this?
Ainz to si20 9/9, then Albedo to Si30, then Ainz si30
Swap rowan and fera so Arthur can buff Fera
any ideas for this thoran cheese? having trouble because kelthur ghost screws up my flora clear at the end
Anybody got any ideas i cant pass it
And no alna cant frontline bc bel or ulric 1 shot her before her immunity activates and nara cant counter bel bc she just drags bel then bel 1 shots nara
have you tried using Shemira with Call ?
Did you fking reply to me 10 days later wtf
it just took me a while to come up with a plan
OK thanks. I'll try that

brutus tasi daimon pippa lyca
Was that reply for me or them
to you mate
Pls help
Grezhul rowan arden mehira daimon
I just told you a lineup to try
In the side of grezhul
The order in my message is 1-5 according to the slots of the battlefield as labeled on the ground
got any ideas?
lol since I beat that stage a week ago I saw at least 5-6 people having problem with that same stage
Hi, I'm having a lot of trouble clearing 29-54, the mehira just wrecks all my comps, any ideas on how to clear it ?
can you grab her with a nara?
I've been trying my normal comp (daimon Eironn carry), tried a lot with the thoran cheese, but I get instantly destroyed all the time
Sadly I don't have Nara at the moment
and I think 5 man thoran cheese could work
well my thoran just gets instantly killed, he can pull of his ult in 1 out of every 20 tries or so, and does not deal enough damage
What artifact do you use on daimon here ? Call ?
that's not me that's on a website : https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=54
My skriath doesnt have 3/9 yet tho
but yeah either call or the tank damage artifact
I think it can still work with some retries, if not just merc lucretia cheese or wait for skriath 3/9
been spamming retry for 2 days I think haha
How can I beat this team using thoran?
I got it to work with a ferael, yay 😄
nice gj
might be able to reach ch30 today nice
flora thoran queen eironn numisu
gl!
well, 29 60 seems to be a pita, I'll try a few comps but maybe not today haha
worked in two tries, you're a beast
told you, use this https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php
thanks, it looks super useful
Where pro players? 😁 any know how to win last 29 chp
just beat it minutes ago, check the messages just above
daimon thoran eironn rowan ferael
Just win in my way
Is there some sort of setup can push to clear this floor or do I need to wait for next week help
Hello
Anyone?
Level 1 rosaline won't do anything so level her up a little and place mieral middle
Is there a way to beat this level without thoran? It’s disgustingly hard
I think theres a comp with raku 30 for this stage, maybe check afkhelper
ok thanks
Hey yall, I'm around early chapter 22, and going to pivot from Belinda into eironn comp. Right now, I'm using Belinda, rowan, nemora, lyca, talene/Rosa. Is there a better lineup to use than what I have?
Tasi should be better than nemora most of the time, and she can work right from E
Ooh alright
How to beat kt400?
Try daimon fera rowan brutus + 1 other, maybe either lyca/eironn/tasi
I cant find a team for this one ive tried everything
I was blazing through Chapter 29 only to suddenly come to a screeching halt on 29-60.
ainz/albedo/ezio with rowan to take athalia's hit?
just slot in whatever hero to fill the 5th slot as you see fit
considering your heroes it should be easy enough after a few retries to find a pattern
Here's an idea you can try
I see you don't have everyone but you can place better people than mine
he doesn't have daimon lmao
Given they lack every character in that screenshot I don't think they can copy it
^
Yeah. The only ascended tanks I have are Skreg and Albedo. I'd been using Talene (L+) to take Athalia's hit, but that hasn't been working out.
https://prnt.sc/1331ud6 can someone tell me what my best lineup would be?
lineup for a specific stage or what?
for the story i guess? im only chapter 6 so far
right
so for the first 10 chapters or so, just use your five most leveled heroes
usually two tanks in front, and fill your backline with heroes that do damage
e.g. wukong and brutus in front, pippa/arden/ira or hogan at the back
idk my tanks legit die in 1 sec and it seems wu kong is the only useful one i have
when i played hogan he legit got one shot every stage
idk if i have one tbh
right now you're alright, just need RNG to work and get you more heroes
need help with this lvl, i appreaciate it
but im stuck in the story so idk about being alright lol
Never mind in my case. I eventually came out on top.
It was Safiya's black holes that were consistently doing me in. Oden solved that.
eh it's called afk arena for a reason, usually you gotta wait a bit to progress a lot in the story
trust me, you're nowhere near stuck, it's alright ^^
i just saw that people get to like chapter 10 or something on day 1 so thats why im thinking im doing something wrong
try brutus daimon talene lyca and rowan (mess around with the order as you see fit)
they're usually not new or spend money, it's fine, when I started I only got to like chapter 4 on the 1st day
suggestions here? (14-31). i can kill the mirael based on lineup but then it’s always the isabella nuking my daimon. i can’t seem to kill them both at the same time
i’ve tried swapping in lyca, oden, tasi, rosaline mostly for thoran/alna and a few others but everyone gets nuked immediately
maybe swap daimon and ferael, or ferael with tasi for the banish?
could swap thoran and alna's position around too
i’ve tried every combination with this specific group as far as placement. tasi doesn’t last long enough to do anything unfortunately
i might just have to get a few more levels or something
Yeah, that might be the best bet, or you could just retry and hope RNG favours you
with your current comp, you ideally want daimon to survive as long as possible
you could try leveling nara to hook isabella, but idk if she'll survive
right, which he does. if the isabella didn’t one shot him when she ults lol. that’s the only part that makes me lose ultimately
yeah
so try swapping ferael for tasi, move them around a bit, if it doesn't work then you could try nara
Honestly I'm out of ideas at this point
haha thanks though. i’ll give it a shot
npnp gl ^^
move ainz to slot 5? also tasi would probably be better than lucius there
link your dim to khasos or nemo instead of tasi
Hmm someone got a idea? 🤔
well u can try Tasi Lucius Ferael/fawkes Rowan Belinda/Daimon
whats the best team i can use
did it with Lucius Arthur Ferael Rowan Ainz ._.
You can check pins in #classic-questions
imo you should restart on a new server to reroll better heros like daimon and rowan
You can easily get back the progress in an hour
@twin dove an hour to lv 61?
+u already made the mistake of ascending belinda to legendary
Lvls doesn't matter but you can get back the same amount of heros
@twin dove what characters do i need to go for
Check pins in #classic-questions it will show a wishlist
Sth like brutus slot 1, nara hook isabella, then daimon slot 2/3 and lyca tasi/arden
Ok thanks wil do
now that PoP trial is over i am kinda lost on what i should be doing, i put Mira+ in and got her up to lvl 101, but i still have wukong in the party
can anyone help? these are my options
using this right now, but i'm supposed to drop wukong, right?
i’m stuck please help
You can try brutus slot 1, daimon 2, either tasi/arden slot 3 (whoever gets killed by silvina), lyca, and last one tasi/arden thats not killed by silvina
I cant seem to get it working, do you have any other ideas? Thanks for ya help
Maybe put rowan in somewhere?
Replace tasi ig, ill try replacing nara or lyca if that doesnt work
and me? 😦
Formation depends on the level, we cant really give you one singular formation for campaign
what should i replace for wukong, daimon?
i have her elite+
Yeah either tasi/arden, can also try oden to prevent shem/isa from ulting
should i reroll
I think you can try daimon carry till you can get mirael to L/L+
awk whats ur wishlist lookin like
wym
ok, interessting
Not sure about wukong since i didnt use him b4, but if he isnt useful anymore u can reset him and lvl up hogan for tank
in the summon tavern theres a wishlist that helps you get the heros ur looking for
yeah i got some of the recommanded
or straight up replace him with daimon?
the rowan and ferrel are pretty nice
shouldi reroll?
It also failed, does anybody in that formation except daimon need to ult to be usel there
Eh doesn't really seem worth it
Since only daimon gets to ult after everybodys dead
what team then? since i was told to reroll
there isnt a exact team really you need to get early on, its just getting a main carry and progressing till u can build a whole team
I would reroll since u made a hero L, not something thatll doom ur acc but you didnt progress much anyway
what carry do i have
belinda L is kinda a ouch
Belinda is earky game carry then you can garrision ainz and link
tahst what i was told
can anyone explain again why its bad to make some1 L if you cant L+ him? i never understood that
shem works too
Of rng doesnt give u copies of the hero and you are incapable of ascending them then you would have wasted fodder
then ur stuck for a bit
my lyca isn’t leveled
i been stuck on thid
uh maybe not lvl1 heros
neither is arden lol
Lyca is just for the haste, arden root at the start and he can die after that i guess, nara just hook
Oden need to ult for his cc, tasi should be better if she can ult
arden is one of those things that when u face hes such a pain, but using him is kinda eh unless hes max
Guess ill replqce tasi with oden since tasi cant survive
so whats the team?
Why can’t I send imgs
i lost
oe replace brutus with izold maybe
Lyca is good even as E so you can put her in res crystal. Arden is better after he can get his 3 roots i dont remember his required lvl
Jungle do you mind if I dm you about lineup help? I can’t send images here for whatever reason. @iron finch
what can i do instead that might work
Yeah sure
Usually when theres silvina, u want to put a weakest mage far away from your carry, so silvina will target the mage and get stopped by a tank
ty
Alr cool I dmd you
Oden cant ult before he dies. Should i replace lyca with another frontline since when lyca dies 2/3 of backline are vulnerable
Is it here that I ask if you can help me stuck on a stage?
Wait lemme check ur box again
So what should I use? I’ve been stuck here for a week!
Have u tried using mehira mid? I didnt see u have a lot of celepogean 😂
I will do that now thx
And maybe u can replace brutus with lyca/talene or maybe alna if she can tank
Who should i replace mirael with
U need more cc
Alnas job is to tank so ye she can
Sorry what is cc?
Crowd control, sth like tasi's sleep
So what heroes should I use then?
I think im gonna try ainz ive gotten the closest. To victory with him
I used tasi before and didn’t help
PoP?
Hes on a trial
I dont actually have him
I’m not including him because he’ll be gone soon
@iron finch
Hmm maybe golus if you need more tank, idk how good raku at your lvl
And try to get rowan
Yea just trying to get good rng for that
Was thinking of using skreg for a tank since golus is a rare
Well golus is easier to build, u can try skreg but he wont last long as E
And i dont think u should build him as first maulers unless no better choice
What about skirath or thane are they just bad @iron finch
Thane bad and you dont really need more carry there. And i dont think skriath is useful at your lvl, he is good after he gets his furniture, and has no dmg till +30

holy christ... that was ruff. That was the most complex thoran cheese ever for F2
Raku is awesome though 
Dont wanna waste my friend thing
any clue?
Whats good gamers
Any ideas?
Over level your daimon
You got a solid start just keep playing until you get some more heroes
Thank you that’s honestly really helpful
Literally my only advice rn
oh strange. I thought Phoenix's guide was pinned here as well. Check out the pin in questions. The visual guide
Should I also level up anyone else that isn’t on my team
np but I can’t give that much help with only a few heroes to help with
it will help you update your wishlist to focus on heroes like daimon over shem
Mkk I will :))
And thank you again
Your heroes are fine. Don’t stress the very early game at all
Like I feel like I should be further with my heroes because like I play it a lot so it feels like I’ve been playing it for longer than I probably actually have if that makes sense
Afk arena is the name of the game. Playing a lot won’t do anything rlly. Just wait. That’s what the game is about pretty much
I spend hours on this game everyday
It’s honestly just a lot of fun
Try brutus daimon and tasi with any 2 supports
Can someone help me too? Im literally fuming
Not much you can do in this game by just being online. At least later on
what should help a lot is to finish collecting enough copies of shem to ascend her (only one or two more, which ever gets you another e+ shem), and you can use the swap scroll from chapter... 22 or 24, I forget which to turn her into a better hero
That’s a viable strategy? It’s c24
since she is already M, yes
Ok thank you
That might be awhile since I’m still in chapter 6 but almost chapter 7
Oh that screenshot
i have beeen UGHH
I also just got Shem which is good
Try for rng or wait until you are stronger
so what you will want to do is still try to build daimon as quickly as possible because he will get you to 24 as quickly as possible
She is good but not worth the investment I believe unless you will swap
and if you are able to get at least a Mythic Daimon, then you will want to swap ascended shem for a hero other than daimon
Should I after focusing on daimon upgrade shem and replace her with someone else
worst case scenario is that you are unable to get Mythic daimon in which case you can swap shem for daimon. But that is highly unlikely
Alright so for now should I just leave her there and not upgrade and just wait?
in the short term, yes. leave her on the wishlist though until you get enough copies (and make sure you already have the copy from pippa candy crush)
Alright got it
basically, you are waiting to see if the game gives you 8 total shemira or 4 total daimon first. If you get the remaining shemira copies first, then you use your GB fodder to make her ascended, which gives you the ability to summon a hero of your choosing once a month
which you can use to get 4th copy of daimon who will then carry better than even ascended shemira
they just instantly die
Wait for power then
I cant share my screenshot in here. Help.
@final maple if you end up with enough fodder to make another L+ GB fodder hero and you are nowhere near an L+ Wilder hero to make Eironn M+, then you will want to use the GB hero to get shem M+ so that it raises her level cap, which will help you push chapters to get faction scrolls to spend on GB for the chance of daimon copies. Sorry if I am overloading. I just don't want to leave you stuck and waiting if there is room to progress
ik i can beat it tho
I could win this easily if eironn would just pull the belinda but she just goes like „hee hee“ ans my eironn doesnt pull
anyone got an idea 😀
halp pls
My all mauler challenge.
This chapter was made to screw me
Nara and Kren can stun lock 1 person
But the issue is unlike the other stages, they can all team wipe me
help me lol
Ps my all mauler challenge mean building only maulers
i can still use other heroes, but not in arena
what can i do here i’ve been retrying over and over hoping ferael would taunt the right people but still can’t seem to win
nvm getting ferael to +20 helped a lot
anyone got an idea
i’m still stuck help!!!
Doing maulers without piramid girl? How you wanna win xD its like shooting urself in the foot
Bois, I think I screwed up somewhere. I get crushed, I hit a hard wall. I could do everything up until 10-8
Maybe a tank and healer in place of antandra + ankhira? I kinda suck at this game so any advice would help lol
You have price
prince. How is there difficulty
just put shemira in front, and prince where gywn is
then put gywn mid and tasi bot front
the top back is your choice
talene brutus lyca rowan daimon.
Sounds good, thanks for the help!
read the pins in #classic-questions. might even be worth a restart tbh.
Just checked it out, thanks for the advice!
Literally cannot get past this, any help? Don’t mind the L thoran it was an accident :/
Hello @hazy hatch,
Please check out the pinned messages/guides in the #classic-questions and #lineup-help channels. Make sure to also utilize the #545929173471068170 by typing .guidelist in the channel.
Any suggestions for PVE? Stuck in chapter 8 at the moment
Not pictured: Saurus, Rigby, Solise
I've tried 2 different comps: Arthur, Rowan, Rosaline, Gwyneth, Farael, and a Daimon comp with Thoran, Rowan, Farel, Nara, Daimon. I'm like 120k power to the stage's 170k so I might be a little low, but a little feedback on the comps would be appreciated too
Who can I use against this team? Because goddamn, every sensible lineup I think of is dying off fast
Can’t beat this stage, can somebody help me?
How did you get a dimensional already at ch 8?
money
On normal summons? And I used lucious, damion, Silas, that one girl that buffs you and prince
Help pls, I want to reach 23-20 so I can get the next voyage
Can anybody add me as a friend for a mission? 128456904
What do you need? Like which heroes would be best?
Not what i was asking for but it would be a great help
Any ideas? All my attempts get crushed.
Anyone has an idea for me?
@honest storm I would say not to use any of you're rare heros and to reset them so you can use those resources on you're epic heros
Any suggestions? (I know I made to many legendary heros)
@pale kettle
But guide says, this guy's should go to 160 asap?
You should get them to 160 but you don't have enough of them to get there yet
You're other epic heros can get a lot higher then you're rare ones
And they are stronger then them too
Okay... Will have a look
Thanks
Np
@hazy hatch post a ss of the actual fight lineup, easier to see what you're up against
When I use desira for faction bonus I almost clutch it
Do you have Nara? Adding her instead of Rosalina so you can focus down Isabella might solve it
Lemme check
You might have a chest you can pick her in as well, if you haven't used it for someone else already. There's a chest you get in the earlygame somewhere that lets you pick her
Can't remember when or where you actually get it
I do not have that chest i used it on lucrius 😭
Ah, whoopsie
I do have a Isabelle of my own
Using your own isabella won't do much most likely, you'll have better luck keeping the focus on getting daimon to roll, and picking off the right targets
Should I just level damion to 140 and try clutching it 😂
If you can, sure
I can try the peaks of time thing to get my resources but idk if my team is ready for that I took a peak and enemies seem strong af
Increasing your overall level by boosting your lowest ones might do more though. Looks like you have some resetting to do to fix your crystal pentagram
What if I use Saurus backline and try adding more dps? And who should I throw in the crystal
Saurus would be stuck at level 100, that won't do anything. Your 140 Daimon needs to carry in your situation, so everything should be built around protecting and snowballing him
If I can make my rosaline survive longer it can help damion spam ults
increasing your minimum level cap will help a lot with that
How do I increase my minimum again 😓
I wish I still had that PoP trail his stuns helped a load ton if he survived
You need to replace the weakest links on the pentagram with someone you can level higher, take out Oden and Rosa, and replace them with fodder units, Saveas and Arden ideally
Ohhhh ok. But my Rosa is capped by her ascensions already no?
Exactly, she is capped at 100 when you level her individually, but if you replace her with someone you can level to 120 and add her to the resonance slots instead, she will go to 120 anyway
I did not know that! Wow I gotta fix my crystal badly then
Should I reset rosa level and level a fodder unit ASAP
Yes, replace Oden and Rosa with Saveas and Arden, and work on getting them to L+
Got it! Thanks looks like I’ll have to afk a bit
I can get ira to legendary rn tho
I can get sauras or ira legendary
Don't ascend Saurus, Ira is OK but she's not as useful as Arden, Arden is a really strong support
I mean rn I just wanna level up my fodder so my main team can have a higher level cap
Just got crazy rng and beat it with oden of all hero’s
Who should I get from the event
Take that to questions bro this is about your formation
Sateto
Best team not including levels as a factor
Please help, i only have issues with this level and literally immortal khazard (the adventure for magic artefact)
Hello, I'm looking for a solid team go carry me. I think i invested in some not so great units and am stuck at chapter 8. Would someone be able to help me invest in some units so i can get better?
Stuck on 34-60 please help
Since you're asking for general advice and not for stage specific, you can ask in #classic-questions , and be sure to read the pins in that channel and stop making legendary heroes until you know what to raise
ah, ok. ty
Any pro can help?? Im new on this game still Hard to know meta characters
You can get +30 rowan and +20 3f daimon, tasi to +5/+15 for special stat
Also stop making L/L+ unless you can get them to A
For that stage you can probably try replacing brutus with talene/lyca/rowan to get hooked by nara
@iron finch thanks for tips. 4 L+ ready to A but need food 😭 but in all, events į buy red chest, not food or hero
@iron finch this items make t3? Or keep t2 and swaping to nara
Tough level (30-60). Mehira and Ezizh are big problems. I also have to cop with the pull of Eironn.
Would really appreciate some help!
(Can also use a Merc eventually)b
ainz + arthur + rowan might work if you place them in front of eironn?
if you're going with daimon carry then brutus would work as a distraction
Do you have at least an elite Gorvo?
Merc Tidus
Elite Gorvo
Eirron
Lyca
Chicken
Might work, but you could try a (given, they wont get 2 shots from the pull)
Merc Athalia/Nara
Talene
Rowan
Arthur
Ainz
Just passed!
Wp!
"When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of your hero pool or the campaign stage that you are stuck and try to explain what you exactly need because just saying "help me” is not specific enough to help you. "
tl;dr: post a screenshot of your hero pool + which challenge you want to beat
Provide your box
Can someone help me make 3 working teams for chapter 32? I swear those legendary teams you fight third aren't legendary. The colours denote which dimensional is linked to who so the team comps actually work! (Ainz and Daimon have a key so they CAN be in the same comp together)
should i replace anyone for mortas and or E+ grez?
cecilia for grez
Anyone?
Wish I could help with 31-15 but I used Ainz till chapter 32
My maxed ainz is still carrying me and I’m in 33 😩😩😩 so bad on my part
He'd carry me but I literally don't have 2 other good (enough) teams for the boss fights throughout 32
@patent hemlock try to do it multiple times to make sure that daimon gets his ult off and does the crazy
Oh I see, I have a built daimon team as well as aim ainz team, then I have semi wilder comp that worked which is why I made it so far I think
I’ll lyk how it goes : )
@vivid scaffold you need lyca instead of tasi I guess. Try rowan front of ezizh and replace tasi with lyca, the haste gonna speed up daimon and ferael
Posting again for some visibility hopefully! Can someone help me make 3 working teams for chapter 32? I swear those legendary teams you fight third aren't legendary. The colours denote which dimensional is linked to who so the team comps actually work! (Ainz and Daimon have a key so they CAN be in the same comp together)
might have to try multiple times
I would try to help but i have no experience using Queen or Joker in my comps
@honest socket not too hard, bscly one team should be ainz Arthur joker talene and so on, one team Wilders, and one rowan with daimon etc. Try to get albedo tho
For the first team you could go the a full dimensional comp for the 2nd and 3rd i can help
if you don't mind can i see the team 2 and team 3 in that stage @honest socket
I have the dimensional comp down pat, they've hard carried me since chapter 13, it's just the other two that aren't winning real well, I'll try your suggestions. And sure irina!
Artifacts fine?
Maybe chalice for rowan?
Well, battle 1/2 use ainz and daimon team. Daimon works well with rowan Brutus front, then you can add Silas oden etc
I personally use eye in chapters and swap to sword in twisted realms but that could just be me
Who should I replace?
Talene I guess
@maiden bobcat Here's the second team on the boss battle, and you can see how well my team did....youch
Eiron and mehira just 1 shot anyone at top
Just insta dies everytime, not the best gear for him.
this comp is like my god comp in pve and pvp almost since i don't have all dimensionals
@patent hemlock he uses dura's call? He should be okay, put some better gear then
This is how that team went...unfortunately
Only other better gear I can put on him is daimon’s sadly
Although, I could t2 his weapon and chest
Nah, just find some boots with lb faction and + a bit @patent hemlock
help
@honest socket Eh, some stages require more work. Like this stage, you need to use nara vs mehira so you cancel the first skill, try
Nara
Brutus
Talene
Rowan
Daimon
pls help me
Eh, what's daimon lvl? Cant see it
140
Damn, I don't even have a nara
mirael is too @brave oriole
This is the best chance I've had so far, daimon does 43 million damage and is the only one alive, but doesn't get them dead quick enough, is there a better artifact I could be using for her?
I've cleared the other stages fine, it's just that second fight giving me trouble
i don't have some of the heros painfully spain
I don't own a lot and the ascension tier for them
@honest socket man, rowan always use chalice and daimon call, at least, most of the times
Oh? Really okay. Thanks!
Any help? Estrilda and Mirael are destroying my team
So far, rowan looks the most tanky with chalice for me
@pale kettle it's complicated with your heroes, no support. Try
Theowin
Brutus
Mirael
Izold
Daimon
in that order? @brave oriole
I switched the artifacts and won! Thanks a ton!
@pale kettle u can see, 135 are backline, 2/4 front
Np
@zealous summit pulling mirael with nara should be good, just, swap Rosa daimon also
didn’t work
Well, try something else instead of izold, have any elite talene?
Find another tank anyway, maybe skreg
Thank you!
np its just the comp just takes multiple tries sometimes cuz arden is dumb
Yeah took a bit, but worked well
Hello, can someone suggest me two solid teams for LC
try
Lyca
Tasi
Rowan
brutus
Daimon
Can any1 help?
Someone got an idea how i can beat that? (Arden is there cuz silvina keeps one shoting Silas) (i got 2 empty space in my Crystal if there are any recommendations)
Why you have more than 5 characters manually lvled up?
Lmao
@forest arch just merc some strong DPS, like Ainz
Dunno, i havent done any levelinv up for weeks and had A LOT of the thing with which ya upgrade em
Why do you have more investment in a fodder than daimon?
Aight, thx
Just try having only 5 lvled up cuz you lose a lot of resources cuz of that put the other ones in the crystal
Emm, why not?
The thing is just wrong fodder hero. Mirael, Hogan, Saveas, Arden is strong before 160 lvl. And he doesn't have 4 copies of Daimon, so he even can't level him up more
True, but even then isn't Daimon better than Mirael at equal investment?
Maybe, but as I said you need copies of Daimon, which is harder to get
been stuck here for a while
when should i swich to mariel
I barely last 10 seconds against this team. Any suggestions?
Mehira comps are always a struggle... Have you tried with Eironn right back?
Can this win with rng?
I cant suck belinda in and that destroys my chances
Stuck here but i should get it if my ainz could live a lil longer
Have you tried swaping aaron with rowan?
No, let me try it real quick, but i think i nearly tried everything
Belinda and everyone else sadly onehshots everything
I'd also try to swap lycia with tasi
If nothing works you prolly should wait for your heroes to level up more
Aight thank you
Stuck on 29-60
Any suggestions? I typically try to build around ainz but I’m desperate for anything to just get me done with chapter 29 lol
What can I use here? Excluding Fearel / Lyca / Tasi / Daimon / Eironn. Thank you!
Nvm!
Nara
Talene
Rowan
Rosaline
Shemira
having trouble beating this stage anything i need to change?
On a side note did you fix your wl, and maybe mireal will help shes a good carry for early chapter
Anybody know
what i can do? without using merc
Rng it
Try Grezhul Rowan fawkes nara daimon
You want to grab the mehira
Cheese it like i did
Just a little 309 thoran with 3 hours of rng
Really simple
skreg saurus [flex] raku alna might work.
Ok interesting
not quit. Brutus, saurus, elradu(sp) alna skreg is not bad but cant build the momentum

yah I know...
Just merc it 
used all 2x mercs 😭
Oh damn you're higher then me in campaign now 
Might be stuck on this damn chapter until Saturday.... took me all effen day to work out fights 2 through 5
Gonna beat 34 this week? 
dude if I can I will... each boss fight gets a little more challenging then before. I got the heroes but my gear is lacking.
Next patch, Lilith is going to change up Campaign to make it more easyier
Try brutus, twins, raku, mehira, silas
Tw
ns
team last about 10 seconds until everyone dies
Can mehira ult?
nop
This team relies on silas dodging so have fun with that 
fun fun fun
Who can I use here? It’s either the first and third I pass, and the second is a nightmare, or the first and second, then the third is a nightmare
Help
Hi guys I'm pretty new to the game and it would be nice if someone would give me a good lineup ☺️
Show your box
What’s the best team I can build rn ? Pve
Hi I'm pretty knew and what to know what is the best Team Lineup that I can build with that?
My heroes are:
Shemira ,Mirael ,Kaz ,Lyca,Thoran,Grezhul,Morvus,Hogan,Lucius,Vurk,Brutus,Arden,Ankhira
Stuck on 9-20. Any tips with my limited roster?
I seriously need some help with this. I got close, but it’s still stomping me.
Use Arden instead of Brutus and put nemora front line
Use Wukong carry until 100 then wait till you pull more copies for daimon or eironn, if not use mireal carry.
For your team I would go:
Rosaline
Wukong
Rowan
Grezhul
Prince
Also level Wukong 20 lvls or 40 lvls above everyone else on you team
Do u die to succubus if u do maybe try and stun her at the start or pull her with Nara so she can’t get her 3 lives
I don’t have Nara built
Any other suggestions, with the heroes I have built up here?
good set of heros to start off with?
How do my heroes die if my Tasi puts the enemy team to sleep.
Makes no sense
I need help with this lvl, i appreciate it
Stop using shemira, forever. Daimon is 10x the better carry, run him with Rowan Brutus tasi lyca fera thoran etc
What problem do u have with shemira? xd
