lineup-help

[pale kettle]

More like with Rowan

[minor whale]

Same spot?

[pale kettle]

Not sure if he will survive without SI

Rowan should be priority to +30

[near jolt]

yo, stuck hard

[minor whale]

I got daimon to si 20 first

I couldn't push rowan to mythic till now

[quaint kiln]

Anyone can help me with 32-60?

[pale kettle]

i keep dying what should i do

[maiden marsh]

You check afkhelper?

[quaint kiln]

From where do i check it?

[maiden marsh]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[quaint kiln]

Ok done.Thank you

[minor whale]

Really struggling here if anyone could give me some help, 19-28

[pale kettle]

i keep dying here what should i do

[maiden marsh]

not frontline mirael against brutus

[minor whale]

Sorry to @you but the team i was using has kinda hit a wall, do you have any suggestions

[maiden marsh]

replace lyca with nara across from vurk or isabella

[minor whale]

In other words switch mirael with daimon, I would also suggest reseting rosa, taking daimon off crystal and pushing him to 100 if you have the resources to do so

[pale kettle]

could anyone help?

[pale kettle]

somthing like that?

i still keep dying

[pale kettle]

replace daimon with brutus

[pale kettle]

in postions?

yes

i still die

[light needle]

Any replacements ?

[high marlin]

Does Mirael get her ult off?

[pale kettle]

retry a few times and if you still cant just go afk and then upgrade your units lvl

[pale kettle]

k

[light needle]

My team got annihilated in less than 5 seconds

[pale kettle]

or i could use kren

or hogan to replca brutes

[minor whale]

Mirael should be in the middle back

Well damn you have rowan so thats a hard one

[high marlin]

Killing Ferael is your top priority, usually you use a pull like Eironn but if you mirror your Ferael it should work

[pale kettle]

thats why its hard bc i put her in the middle but half of my team dies

[pale kettle]

it helped, ty dad, i mirrored nara against ferael

[high marlin]

More times than not it's a cc unit like Ferael, Arden, Mehira, Ezizh that are the main problems

[high marlin]

Who's killing you the most

[sick heart]

any ideas guys ?

[high marlin]

You have to kill Isabella before she ults. For you I recommend mirroring her with Ferael to cc her or Nara to pull her

[pale kettle]

glus and brtus

[high marlin]

Nara up front doesn't pull anyone so most people don't use her there

[sick heart]

Ye i am just trying to adjust the setup to gain some time for daimon

but nothing is really helping me much xD

[high marlin]

Do you not have wu kong?

[pale kettle]

i rested him

[high marlin]

Why

[pale kettle]

bc he keept dying and everyonr told me to change to mariel

[high marlin]

I checked afk helper and at that stage most were still using wu Kong, and beating the stage at level 87

[pale kettle]

so i rest mariel

or no

[high marlin]

Yeah I think those guys told you to retire a bit too early

Once you get all 5 of your heros to 100 you can retire Wu Kong and get Mirael to 140

[minor whale]

Yeah thats my bad man, I knew mirael was a carry i just didn't know she was a bit weak this early

[pale kettle]

like that

[minor whale]

Try it and see

[tropic scarab]

Can someone help idk what to use and what’s good

[patent hemlock]

Any help? I’m using the comp from the website but my eironn is just too low

[flat forum]

hmm i did it with ainz. But Try 1 Brutus 2 Lucius 3. Ferael 4. Rowan 5. Daimon

[languid sinew]

whats the best team i could make

[rigid ibex]

This combat puzzle is fucking with me, halp

[primal canopy]

@rigid ibex desira torne skriath anoki safiya

[pale kettle]

wukong, brutus, zaphreal rowan in middle and maybe Belinda

[pale kettle]

https://preview.redd.it/puitsb0e6nx61.jpg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaa31dafaa6101ccbca4232a7e8455d001559de7 in case u get stumped with anything else

[analog light]

Who do I level up and use

[jolly stirrup]

Who should I use my swap scroll on ?

[maiden marsh]

you shouldn't

[jolly stirrup]

Ok

Who/when should I save it for?

[maiden marsh]

for an overinvestment or mistake, which you haven't made yet (well, not a mistake you can swap away)

[analog light]

Who should I use

[maiden marsh]

have you read the guides pinned in #classic-questions ?

[analog light]

I did but I have a lot of good heroes apparently so idk which ones to use out of the good ones I have

[maiden marsh]

overlevel mirael or daimon carry, then use oden/rowan/kren/brutus/pippa as support

[languid sinew]

but rowan doesnt heal and brutus dies easily

is there any else good healers

[sly talon]

Can anybody come up with a good and solid team comp for me? I've been having trouble finding a good team comp with what I have.

[vivid scaffold]

Thoran Daimon Fera Rowan Tasi

[pale kettle]

Been stuck here...

Any ideas?!?

[turbid minnow]

Whats the better team(new account. )

[sly talon]

Tasi? She's only E+.

[delicate hazel]

I need some help with the last task

[brave oriole]

Gwyneth it's the best for, perhaps a strong merc @delicate hazel

Specifically with shroud artifact

[delicate hazel]

Can you give me the example line up?

[brave oriole]

Mhm @Lumi#0807

[wheat gate]

Any help? Been testing different comps

[humble apex]

Rowan tasi daimon nara lyca

[ebon hazel]

Show whole boz

[high marlin]

Wu Kong till you get everyone to 100, then revert him and get either Saevas or Mirael to 140

[subtle yoke]

Need Nara to pull mehira, 90% of the time thats the strategy

[high marlin]

Nara or Athalia

[wheat gate]

Rip I don’t have nara on resonating

[high marlin]

If you let Mehira get her bats it's gg you lose, unless you have full ainz comp

[wheat gate]

I see so nara + wilders team?

[subtle yoke]

With all those dodge reliant heroes, if you dont interrupt Mehira first cast i dont think its physicaly possible to win

[wheat gate]

Should I get her to M? Or Just E+?

[high marlin]

Eironn doesn't pull Mehira fast enough btw. All that will happen is she nuking you lol

[wheat gate]

Yep happened a few times kinda sucks

[ebon hazel]

5pull thoran that lmao

[pale kettle]

What 5pull team?

[subtle yoke]

Nara Rowan Daimon Ferael Tasi sounds like a good plan, maybe Eironn instead of Ferael or something like that

[high marlin]

No 3f on skraith

[ebon hazel]

Skriath and Eironn(back center) with the Silvana you want Skriath on front

[ebon hazel]

Damn, never mind

[subtle yoke]

What is important is her haste, ascension can be compensated with retries most of the time.

[high marlin]

If a character has 3f they'll have a red diamond under their faction. 2 if they're 9/9

[subtle yoke]

[honest blaze]

I'm so tired of this stage, any tips?

[wheat gate]

Alright, thanks man

[high marlin]

Yeah you'll need to keep either Nara or a strong Athalia on Crystal at all time for mehira stages

[wheat gate]

Athalia is only E so i’m just sticking to Nara then

[ebon hazel]

I know how to read badges, just assumed since why else would someone have Skriath A

[high marlin]

To eventually get 5 pull

[subtle yoke]

It works with her at E, but it can be dodged so nara is more consistent

[high marlin]

Yeah you just need to interrupt Mehira at the beginning, that's what decides if you have a shot or not

[wheat gate]

Lmao welp i’ll still get nara for future stages

[high marlin]

Yeah if Mehira summons her bats it's gg. Bc that's 3 lives for her

[high marlin]

Use Ferael to fear Arden or use Eironn to pull him

[feral hare]

Trying to pass this all wilder team and I don’t have much for maulers, who should I get to M in this case?

[high marlin]

Don't really need Maulers. Have you tried putting Lyca and Tasi in

[feral hare]

Tried Lyca and not tasi, I also don’t know who I’d be replacing

[high marlin]

Either Lucius or Talene

[pale kettle]

How do you make Desira work? Goddamn Ezizh.

What team should I make I am stuck on 7-5 😢

[frigid linden]

get silas somewhere in there to help daimon

[high marlin]

Did you read the guides

[pale kettle]

Ur a fooking genius syguy i did it

[frigid linden]

nice

[slim comet]

Trying to make 3 good teams for multifight stage. Can anyone help? Trying to make 3 generally good teams

[high marlin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/le0b0p/visual_guide_to_end_game_pve_formations_by_arty/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[fierce laurel]

how can i improve my lineup?? I’d prefer if i can keep flora on it < / 3

[high marlin]

Try to get rowan at least

[tardy gull]

Help please I have tried fighting them at least 25 times

[maiden marsh]

lucius out for ezio, eironn out for albedo, saurus out for brutus
very non-synergistic team atm

[high marlin]

Yeah you definitely need Albedo asap

Oh nvm I see her next to lyca

[high marlin]

Pull or cc arden

[echo oak]

Hi all! Extremely new to the game and was wondering if I can get a suggestion on who my lineup should be for all the content in the game :)

[high marlin]

Please read the pinned guide in the questions channel

[echo oak]

So would it be something like:

[high marlin]

Wu Kong can be your carry for now

[echo oak]

Copy that. Other than wukong, everyone else is good?

Also I'm assuming, change to diamon or another carry once I have them ascended higher?

[frigid linden]

u can use both daimon and wukong right away cause it’s so early

but as u progress, wukong falls off while daimon will always be great

[light needle]

Where should I put arden?

[echo oak]

Awesome . I'm assuming Crystal the lower grade ones and use the higher ascension ones to push them to higher lvls?

[digital skiff]

Swap satrana for arden, mirael gets all lvls

[light needle]

Noted. Also, should I level him up or keep him lvl 1?

[digital skiff]

Absolutely lvl him up

Mirael>arden> all other weewees lvl wise

[light needle]

Also what’s your lineup power. Just wanna know lol

[digital skiff]

Mine?

[light needle]

Yup

[light needle]

Nice!

[digital skiff]

Not much

Get mirael hella up, she'll single handedly carry you through ch 17

[light needle]

I see you using Daimon. I have him as well. Not sure where to put him as I already have Mirael as carry

[digital skiff]

Early game mirael> daimon, since you can't get his copies easily

Unless you're that one guy who pulled 10 daimons

[light needle]

Nah lol

[digital skiff]

Mirael arden and try to get brutus, he's super nice, works at elite for basically the whole game

[small mesa]

Someone help please

[digital skiff]

Replace pippa with eironn and put a athalia or nara in eironns place, otherwise you can't ever beat mehira

[light needle]

Okay thanks ch28. Gtg now

[digital skiff]

Good luck

[light needle]

You too

[digital skiff]

I'll need that against mehira

[small mesa]

I can’t outspeed her bats even if I grab her at the beginning cause that lyca :(

[digital skiff]

Rng it, definitely possible

[small mesa]

even if I put my own lyca she still does

[turbid minnow]

This is my lineup, is it good or any major changes I can make?

[narrow lark]

Reset someone like Kren and get Wu Kong to lvl 100

[turbid minnow]

I need 5 level 80s though

[narrow lark]

I see. Early game especially, theres nothing you can do until you're able to level up

Just afk for now

[pale kettle]

you could reset your desira since u are trialing her

or do trial heros not go towards crystal level? never mind they dont so dont mind me

[light needle]

Need help

[pale kettle]

Is there up to date lineups for guild hunts in pins

[humble apex]

Saurus Rosa raine warek twins is meta for both

[pale kettle]

Seriously?

[maiden marsh]

sounds right yeah

[pale kettle]

Mortais no?

[humble apex]

Mortas can replace raine if you don’t have her 3f, but it’s slightly less damage

And I think Belinda for warek is close depending on investment

[pale kettle]

My original team was doing more damage

ELP!

@humble apex YOU ALREADY HIT THE POWER CAP??

[frigid garden]

How to beat this???

[pale kettle]

uhh whoopsie didn’t see the “nerf”

Maybe it's becausey heros may be built different

[humble apex]

Rosa needs +20, raine needs 3f

[frigid linden]

anyone got an idea of a way I could beat this

[humble apex]

Looks like a perfect stage for thoran

[lone grail]

What relic for thoran?

[humble apex]

Call for thoran and no one else (unless you have 5*)

If it hits power cap you can probably do eironn skriath Rowan lorsan and mess around with the placements

Can also try lyca for lorsan or smth

[frigid linden]

anyone got an idea of how to beat this

[summer cedar]

check the site. I think I cheesed this.

[summer cedar]

try skri twins lyca eironn luc.

[pale kettle]

Stuck here any help?

[turbid minnow]

Whats a team I can make with these peps?

[pale kettle]

Wu Kong, Tidus, Mireal, Arden, Numisu

[violet hound]

The last pic is the teams I'm currently using (yes I know that saurus team is wierd but it works) what can I do to make a 5th team? Currently it's just some random garbage in front of gwyn to try and let her dps (not very powerful or consistent)

[final star]

Izold can be a separate set from thoran, cheese is very viable

No point in using both in a set since they can carry on their own

[violet hound]

What do I put with thoran to cheese with I think I used to know but it's been awhile lol

[final star]

With Grez 9f you can even make Alna Grez comp, if you have Daimon then flex Alna into Alna Daimon/Grez

[violet hound]

What that?

[final star]

Thoran + anything depending on the stage: ezizh, nara, lorsan rowan, flora...etc

[final star]

Meta endgame comp

[violet hound]

My alna is only e+ does that matter?

Dont plan on building her soon either I'm 1 away from finished talene then I need luc then alna

[final star]

For now not so much, but if you're planning on running that comp then you need her 9f

Talene is meh imo, just a healbot so I did twins > luc > alna

Luc Alna are top tier celepogeans right now and for a good reason

[violet hound]

I realized that after I had her m+ with an e+ and figured might as well finish her for kane

[limpid kayak]

how good is joker chapter 31+?

[violet hound]

If I can get to luc shes her own team right? (Basically)

[final star]

Yea then the Alna comp is a long way, but no worries, that comp is endgame stuffs

Yea Luc carries her own set, usually with 5pull or could be her own, depending on enemies

[violet hound]

I use him sometimes on my 5th team with gwyn hes good but not amazing from my experience

[final star]

He's used in Gwyn comp mainly, has his usage but nothing game changing like Ainz

[maiden marsh]

Joker's really flexible, can go in any set that either wants or uses cc as he both dishes it out and benefits from it.

[final star]

I've seen him used in flex spots but yea, mainly CC-oriented comps, and with gwyn being initial CC hit, he works wonder

[violet hound]

@vague fog what do you think of that saurus comp I posted?

[small spindle]

Can’t beat this level in tower

[pale kettle]

Anyone have a comp that can do the "kill 2 backline heroes first" in misty valley? The stage 13 one with Arthur and eironn

[near jolt]

hey, so general progress question here, idk which approach to take. currently I've got 10 scrolls and can summon graveborns so I'm wondering if I should take the chances instead of waiting for lightbearers. I also have 18 rare factional hero choice chests.

I played a way back and know that you were supposed to level belinda and shemira to 240 as prio, but the most recent guide counters that

[maiden marsh]

Do you have the hero choice chest from like chapter 8 still?

[near jolt]

yes

@maiden marsh sorry for the late reply, still saving the chest tho

[maiden marsh]

Step 1: grab daimon #4 from that chest.
Step 2: bring him to M using all that food.
Step 3: get his signature item to +20 asap
Step 4: faceroll campaign.

[near jolt]

oh so he is that strong

[maiden marsh]

Best thing you can build by far as a new player yeah.

[maiden marsh]

Grab a nara copy then remove her from wishlist

[near jolt]

nara isn't in thw wishlist

[maiden marsh]

I recommend you browse the pinned guides in #classic-questions then

[scarlet depot]

need help with this lvl, i appreaciate it

[near jolt]

@maiden marsh really helpful, I've read through it, feel kinda bad that it didn't pop up in my Google search, should I have access to daimon from the hero choice chest or are we talking about another chest

feels like I wasted so many opportunities now, damn

[lapis oar]

would appreciate any help

[dark niche]

Hey people, newbie here, i just got to the point that i can either get two heroes to M or one to M+, those being Daimon and Izold. So what should i do? Because both are carries right? Should i focus on only one or both at the same time?

[vestal raven]

Who’s better? Shamira or Grezhul

[topaz sequoia]

i'm playing shemira Ascended but the question is what fits better in your lineup

[solid remnant]

@woven mason what’s wrong with using ascend hero’s to get really strong hero’s. You only need 5

[brave oriole]

@solid remnant nope, you need a lot. Faction towers, later there's 5 boss fights so that's 25 heroes, etc etc. So you need every hero

[woven mason]

You can t compare them because they are used for different stuff but in long term grez is better

[solid remnant]

Wow

[tepid sequoia]

Can anyone help

[woven mason]

Looks perfect for 5 pull

[tepid sequoia]

Tried it lots of time but no luck

[woven mason]

You should get safya, maybe even E would work

[tepid sequoia]

My Safiya at +10 ascended but no luck still

[honest blaze]

any ideas on this?

[woven mason]

How good is gear on eirron

[tepid sequoia]

Two T3 and two T2

[woven mason]

Pls send picture of team that you re using

[bleak bridge]

Try rowan with chalice on athalia. Alternatively arthur, brutus/skreg, ainz, rowan, albedo

[woven mason]

Switch tidus and lyca

[solid remnant]

So I should definitely reset as I think I have used 5-10 ascended?

[honest blaze]

worked with brutus eventually, thank you

[tepid sequoia]

No luck still, i tried other combinations and didn’t work still

[bleak bridge]

gg

[amber brook]

any thoughts who should i use here?

[analog light]

Best heroes to use out of these, and should I reset any to get exp back?

[pale kettle]

why do u have more than 5 updgraded

just lvl up 5 and put the rest on crystal

[agile roost]

Help pls

[patent hemlock]

How can I stop eironn from pulling here? Insta killing whatever’s in front

[woven mason]

This are just my thoughts but you have prefect shemira for swap if you ever thought about it

otherwise I could only think off is gwyneth, ainz and 5 pull but you have nothing of those

[amber brook]

i’m still deciding to who should i swap her for

[woven mason]

thorne could stop enemies from healing but I never used him so I don t know

[woven mason]

just from top of my head you could take grez, izold, daymon, raku, saurus

[brave oriole]

Gwyn merc, easy win

[woven mason]

maybe lucius or izold?

[patent hemlock]

Ah I got it a little while ago, thank you!

Stuck here now lol

[woven mason]

ainz, brutus, lucius and rowan are only heroes that I can think off from what you have. Maybe fareal, tasi or nara could be supports

[woven mason]

are you using afk helper?

[patent hemlock]

Yeah that’s where I got this comp from

Im trying out a couple different teams atm

[woven mason]

if somebody is using fareal in afk helper then you ll need tons of tries to win it

[brave oriole]

You will never get good, if you use this afk helper

[woven mason]

they probably used makros

[patent hemlock]

Makros?

[woven mason]

good is very relative term in this game. It s so luck based and people that are better then you probably either tried 1000 times using makros or paid to get more stars, furn and SI

[woven mason]

on bluestacks you can make commands so some fight automaticly start again even if you are afk

[patent hemlock]

Heard of it, forgot the name. That’s crazy

[woven mason]

so you can play while you re at work or sleeping

[brave oriole]

@woven mason nope. I'm playing the game for a while,so I can clearly tell you, it's more than you think about being skilled

It's a strategy game, which heroes etc to build, and so on

[woven mason]

it s strategy game in which only difficulty is raising levels so it only raises numbers without anything else. dismal maze and tog are maybe exceptionis

[brave oriole]

Yeah well, you got the game wrong at all i guess. Copying everything from others and stuff, doesn't mean that you good at this game.

[woven mason]

I never said I m good, I litteraly don t see how I could make any self improvement without ascending my heroes which isn t really self improvement but getting bigger stick

[patent hemlock]

It’s just help, can’t do everything by yourself. Checking afk helper seems like the same as asking for help in lineup help, still technically copying someone else’s formation with your heroes. I don’t see a huge problem with asking for some help or reaching to see how someone passed a stage in order to do it yourself.

Just my opinion

[brave oriole]

Yes and no. Bcs you will get addicted and you will jump there everytime for every stage

Never checked the web by myself, but I guess that there's full of others setups, not a bad thing at all. But you are missing a lot of fun in the end

[patent hemlock]

Yeah that’s understandable, I only check when I’m like stuck to a point where I’ve tried everything I can think of. I don’t just jump on for every stage cause then that kinda does defeat the purpose of the game.

[pale kettle]

what should i do

[woven mason]

I stop to care about campaign since I got dismal maze because that was last big content that I get from campaign. After that I just played for ascending heroes and getting equipment

[woven mason]

Does wukong gets his ult?

[pale kettle]

yes

[woven mason]

Pls post damage after fight

[pale kettle]

ok

wait i mange to beat the level

[woven mason]

Using Afk helper is same thing as using guides. It helps you to progress and learn what heroes and teams works against what. In many cases you can t just copy and expect it works right away

And this whole channel is supposed to help people to pass some stage

[rigid glacier]

I’m stuck

What’s the best team I could make for that level

(I know that all the legendarys are bad I don’t make them anymore)

[analog light]

I'm new obv 😐

[analog light]

And dat wasn't even my question 😐

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[runic garden]

lyca tanking athalia

[subtle yoke]

I would let Lyca be executed by Athalia, activating Albedo 3/9

[rugged niche]

Do u have rowan ??

[pale kettle]

Not mythic yet

[rugged niche]

Prioritize him bud

[flat forum]

Brutus Thoran Rowan Lucius Talene for Atalia

[pale kettle]

I am. One copy short of mythic still

[runic garden]

wut

[flat forum]

well the troops did a good job against it xD

[pale kettle]

Thane actually kills lyca faster than athalia can attack. Triggering albedo 3/9 before damage is dealt

[analog light]

Who do I use and ascend etc

[flat forum]

Daimon Rosaline Rowan Shemira for the first chaps later its meh lucius is also good

[sick heart]

any help with this ?

[pale kettle]

I have also tried this team based off of one in the afk helper

[flat forum]

Beast how about 1 Prinz 2. Arthur 3. Ainz 4. Albedo 5. Lyca?

[pale kettle]

Swap rowan and daimon probably. The stun will get you

[sick heart]

tried that but there is a silence aswell

that kills me in power spike

[light needle]

Ummm. My lineup sucks more when following the guide than my original lineup

What should I do to it?

[pale kettle]

Follow the guide? You are what? Maybe two days in?

[flat forum]

did u change items and gears?

[mild maple]

What can i change to defeat them? I have to use 3 nature

[flat forum]

try it for more times u need ainz to ult faster

[light needle]

5 days in. I have 1 carry 3 support and 1 tank

[pale kettle]

Show your line up

You are really behind for 5 days

[pale kettle]

Yeah it is extremely dependent on POP rng

[flat forum]

Item level from Ainz?

well if u have Daimon u can also try it with him

[pale kettle]

20

[flat forum]

or try to change arthur and prinz

[pale kettle]

Yeah tried the teams on afk helper but I am without a mythic rowan or 3/9 daimon

[flat forum]

i wish i could look what i used there

[light needle]

My lineup gets annihilated in less than 10 seconds

[flat forum]

i feel u

[pale kettle]

I can see why

[light needle]

Why lol?

[flat forum]

why did u level arden ?

[flat forum]

xDDDD

[light needle]

People told me to and the guide as well

[pale kettle]

He should eventually but yeah he needs to do daimon for now.

[pale kettle]

The reason you level those heroes is to boost your crystal level early on

[flat forum]

oh never played with him haha Daimon is just good in every chap try to get him high 😄

[light needle]

Prince will disappear eventually. Who should I put instead ?

[pale kettle]

Use price while you can 🤣

No shame is using an op hero while you have. At a certain point you will need to use different heroes and formations almost every level

[mild maple]

I use them after 13 days of login cause i can't use any normal hero to replace them 😄

[pale kettle]

Yep. The guide is good but it will take a bit of strategy and common sense to figure out why you're doing what you're doing. Unfortunately there isn't a cure all team lol. Well maybe except ainz nuke 😓

[mild maple]

Sadly i don't have him and right now i can't progress so now i only farm what i can to exchange for prince

[pale kettle]

Yeah that's a good idea

It is an afk game it does take time to get to endgame

[flat forum]

Ainz is carring me so hard haha most of the time i'm trying to nuke the Enemy with him

[mild maple]

What end game i can't go further than 9-4 after almost 14 days 😄

[flat forum]

when u are lucky and get the right troops its pretty easy to go up chap 12. and yes Daimon is a great carry try to build him

[pale kettle]

😋

[mild maple]

I have Daimon but he's just only elite and don't have good team for it to support that

[mild maple]

23-60 in only 14 days?

[pale kettle]

Elite should be fine till like chapter 15

[pale kettle]

Yeah but stuck here for two of them

[flat forum]

and dont stress to much u got all the time

[mild maple]

Ok i fu**ing quit this 14 days the same as me 😄

[flat forum]

just level up your troops do all the events and the other things 😄

[pale kettle]

Lmaooo. It's heavy p2w vs f2p. Just relax and follow the guides. This discord can help you alot when progressing

[mild maple]

Wait p2w? are you not a f2p player?

[pale kettle]

No lol

[flat forum]

same here

did spend some money

[mild maple]

Why the hell am i assumed that your a f2p fu** i succesfuly confused myself 😄

[pale kettle]

Make sure you do this event and use all the promo codes. The promo codes are a biggg boost

[flat forum]

beast u need the last big chest 😛

[pale kettle]

Ain't nobody got time for that 🤣

[flat forum]

ask for help?

[mild maple]

I do it just don't get any decent unit for a good team

[pale kettle]

No not even close 🤣

[pale kettle]

Did you use all the promo codes?

[flat forum]

Lol i'm 13 xD

[mild maple]

I think i used every code i can 😄

[pale kettle]

Getting there

[mild maple]

Izold is a must for Diamon not? I see them everywhere in a pair

[pale kettle]

Then just be patient. I think I saw a f2p say it took him 5 months to get to chapter 24

[maiden marsh]

Nah they're never used together outside tower.

[pale kettle]

He is not necessary. He is really low on the gb list for priority actually early on

[flat forum]

my peggy is still waiting for acended ._. i can even give her 1 star

[mild maple]

Then any unit for Daimon comp early? i tried many teamcomp but they got destroyed

[flat forum]

it's always changing Silas and Daimon is pretty nice to play with Thoran. Rowan is always good in teams

[pale kettle]

I did that on my old account lol

[flat forum]

Need fodder for her 😂

[pale kettle]

I honestly don't use her much tho

[flat forum]

i think for the tower she could be pretty nice

[mild maple]

Oh yea Desira worth to put her in the wishlist?

[flat forum]

still stuck on 201

i think she is a great support for tower. but i didnt finde a good comp for here outside of the tower

[pale kettle]

No

Also don't put too many faction scrolls in one faction 🤣

[flat forum]

true

did it with light haha but my light team carryed me through till 25

[mild maple]

I can almost put my faction scroll every faction cause i get every other unit from normal egy elit card summon expect my wishlist i did it and didn't get from that a single unit so far

[flat forum]

is ur wishlist full btw?

[mild maple]

Full

[flat forum]

good

[pale kettle]

I almost have the gb faction completed before even getting a lb or mauler ascended lol

[mild maple]

lol i do the Desira trial for the 60 elit crystal and i got a Hogan i kinda hate the pull rate

[flat forum]

6 stones 1 peggy and 5 fodder ... dont say a thing 😂

[mild maple]

the same 90% fodder 😄

39 days enough to get another 24 prince shard? I can only do the guild hunt 1.5 million and the lab

[analog light]

Ok so what heroes do I use as ascension material

[flat forum]

Fodder troops. The troops that only go to legendary +

[mild maple]

Diamon or Shemira? Cause i can upgrade her to legend+ while diamon a normal elite

[split oar]

please help with a team to get 100m dmg. Celerity is 5 mythics sustenance is level 4

[nocturne ridge]

can’t beat this stage can somebody help me?

[drowsy inlet]

Stuck on this

[pale kettle]

Take out Rosa and use grez and rowan

[drowsy inlet]

Ok

[pale kettle]

@drowsy inlet

[drowsy inlet]

Still can't get through their Frontline

[patent hemlock]

Help pls

[smoky anvil]

Any tips?

[woven mason]

nara pulling fareal should help

[pale kettle]

i was just saying, you should stick to only 5 hero's level'd up, wasnt tryna be rude bout it. sorry if it sounded rude

[mighty relic]

Can someone circle who I should be concentrating on? Thank you

[light needle]

I’m struggling in this game and guide barely helped tbh. My lineup before following guide was stronger

[mighty relic]

Thanks for the "help"

[maiden marsh]

[mighty relic]

Idiot

[maiden marsh]

now that's rather rude

[mighty relic]

Come to a "seek help" channel to be dismissed

That seems a bit more rude.

[maiden marsh]

I'm not dismissing you, I'm directing you to the place where you can learn things without them being spoonfed piecemeal to you.

[mighty relic]

So the stickies will show me, out of my current cards, which I need to focus on?

I get the builds and pages that show meta shit, but that's not what I'm after.

[maiden marsh]

They will indeed tell you who to focus on as a new player, and also what not to do (much of which you have done).

[brave oriole]

@mighty relic reset nemora, lvl back to 120,and add exp on shemira until 160.it will give you some advantage for a short time, you have to get some rowan and rosaline as support as fast you can

[mighty relic]

Thanks for that! I will work towards that for sure
Cheers

[brave oriole]

@mighty relic and save your heroes as elite +. For every legendary that you make, you are wasting 2 fodders. It's better to focus on each class one hero for a while

[maiden marsh]

Don't take that as the green light to invest further fodder into shemira, however.

[brave oriole]

Well, she's already there, so why not.

[maiden marsh]

She's at a great place to be fed to daimon once they have 4 copies of him.

[brave oriole]

Well, maybe. Will take some time until then

[mighty relic]

Cheers folks. Appreciate the direction

[light needle]

What should I do. Please don’t direct me to the pinned guide lol as It made my lineup worse than before

[maiden marsh]

Overlevel mirael, which the pinned guide says. Don't equally level everyone.

[light needle]

Noted. When you say “don’t equal level everyone” at what level do you say to keep them at? 50?

[maiden marsh]

Just make sure mirael is leveled as high as she can go before leveling the others.

[light needle]

So reset some heroes and overlevel Mirael?

[maiden marsh]

Yes

[light needle]

Alright. Such as whom?

Nemora?

[maiden marsh]

What you can do is reset everyone, then level mirael until it won't let you. Then level everyone else equally so that mirael can be leveled again. Repeat until out of xp.

[light needle]

Sounds good thanks

[agile roost]

Help pls

[spark gazelle]

Is it actually possible for me to beat this stage without ascending? My original idea was to have nara hook the kaz inside the team then have some melee units to burst her down, but well, its kaz. Since fawkes cant seem to coffin the kaz either, idk what to do here. also my daimon dies incredibly quick and idk how to combat that with the units i have

[minor whale]

Getting stuck any tips?

[fierce viper]

@minor whale I would try swapping around with rowan and thoran. I would keep Daimon and prince in but experiment with the others

[minor whale]

Ok

[minor whale]

Even with thoran and or rowan im getting ran through. Do I just need time and to raise my level cap?

[fierce viper]

Probably, yes

[spiral quail]

Any help with this rosa completely shits on my izold with 2+ ults idk what i can do

[ionic lava]

What should I do I'm am stuck

[fierce viper]

@spiral quail If you can merc a sofiya, you can probably beat that team with an eirron comp, and use Izoid on the second team. Might need rowan in the first team

[spiral quail]

Hmm ima try it

[patent hemlock]

Help : (

[spark gazelle]

Same issue here, as before. This time i manage to coffin the nemora but my nara gets merked and then kaz is just free

[pale kettle]

I cleared this with Rowan Lyca front
Nara Daimon and Tasi back

[patent hemlock]

That order? I’ll try : )

[pale kettle]

Yeah, Mehira is painful

[manic tapir]

Getting bodied on 8-20 :(

[patent hemlock]

Ah, nara can’t get her stomp off cause ezizh keeps charming her. Rng might be a factor here

Jk, I think she’s getting charmed by mehira herself

That ezizh ult stop is so good my god

[grim gate]

Try gearing your Nara, as it may be a haste problem

[summer quartz]

I know I'm new, but who should I focus on when I can?

[pale kettle]

this should work right? triple melee so no need for eironn, link on fera, taint on silvina

debating swapping rowan with lyca so i can use rowan for daimon comp
and hoping ezizh/lyca is enough to make up for rowan energy battery loss

[maiden marsh]

only potential issue arises from grez, if he gets demonic assault off, things aren't happening.

[nocturne ridge]

I’m not stuck or anything, just want to check if my team looks good or if I should change it

[patent hemlock]

I’ve been stuck here all day 😭 everything people have recommended doesn’t seem to work. Might be a level problem

[pale kettle]

read pins in #classic-questions

[pale kettle]

only obvious change i would make is tasi opposite nara since she can blink away

[patent hemlock]

I’ve tried that, I’ve honestly tried most of everything I can I believe.

[livid lion]

i’ve been trying to beat this for about 2 hours now and i just cant get it to work

is there a way i should be distributing the levels or units i should be putting in?

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions. an L+ mirael carry wins this easy.

[summer cedar]

upgrade mirael

[summer cedar]

try the site?

[patent hemlock]

I did :/

[summer cedar]

artifacts?

[summer quartz]

i kind of meant the ascended heroes. i read that you should upgrade your fodder first to not get level stuck. but was weondering which of the ascended heroes i have are worth investing in/good team

[summer cedar]

no need to think about investing in the ascended heroes till lvl 160. lucius daimon arden mirael lyca is a decent team.

[summer quartz]

cool thanks

[patent hemlock]

^

[summer cedar]

is everyone geared? does mehira actually get disrupted?

[charred magnet]

How do I ever beat this

If I use eironn on Shem the mailer just one shots my entire team, the same thing happens where ever I put eironn

[patent hemlock]

Everyone’s geared :/ mehira gets pulled but then nara just goes away.

[sullen ibex]

Hardstuck any tips ?

[minor whale]

Anything I can do here? Been stuck here all day

[deep harbor]

i dont know who to level up or to put in... HeLp

im at like tage 7-32 or something

[minor whale]

Focus on daimon, but only keep him about 20 levels above the rest of your team.

You have a great team in
Lyca
Thoran
Rowan
Prince
Daimon

But you need to put thoran and rowan on crystal

[minor whale]

Does that make sense

[minor whale]

If you're gonna ask for help you should probably respond to the people helping you

Stuck here on 20-4 most of the day

[deep harbor]

sorry want to a interview :/

[minor whale]

Nah its all good I'm just tired and cranky

[deep harbor]

nah

you cool. 😄 as heck bro

[minor whale]

Did my suggestions help?

[deep harbor]

@minor whale i dont have prince anyone i could put in??

[minor whale]

Hmmm

Get grez in crystal and use him

[calm sorrel]

Am I ready to make a move? I'd like to know what exact steps you'd take from here.

I mean, do I use Mirael to make my 8th or Morvus to make more E+ fodder?

Do I A Rowan or Mirael first?

[placid edge]

@summer cedar thanks for the advice 🙂

[calm sorrel]

Update: I made Morvus into E+ fodder and when I get another useless fodder I'll A Mirael.

[modest zodiac]

Make Rowan L+ if your damage is okay. But don’t use any ascended heroes for mareal. You’re eventually going to break mareal down for your ascended heroes later anyways

[calm sorrel]

Not enough non-A, non-Mireal E+ units to ascent Rowan yet, but I hear you. Thanks.

I mean I could chuck Hogan on the pyre with Morvus...

[modest zodiac]

You don’t need to use all E+ mareal to make her L+. She only needs two copies that are E+. Hogan and Morvus as fodder for Rowan is totally fine

[calm sorrel]

I guess I was planning to save up 8 Mireal to get her to Mythic or something. So I have been avoiding feeding Mirael copies to main Mirael to get her to Legendary.

So upgrade Rowan and worry about Mirael later, then?

Oh. I don't ever need top take fodder past L+

I get it now. I took Rowan to L+. Thanks!

[dark wind]

Any suggestions, the annoying heros r grovo n mehira

[mortal mural]

What teams would you recommend?

[vapid field]

Nara/Athalia instead of Far/Eironn to deal with Mehira

[deep harbor]

can someone help me choose one character to replace

[dark wind]

Ill try that @vapid field

O wait gorvo one shots 😅 just remembered

[vapid field]

One shots Athalia?
Borrow an ascended one

[mortal mural]

Which team would you recommend?

[dark wind]

@vapid field dang gotta use my merchant then

[vapid field]

It resets in 20 hours assuming you mean mercenary

[trim dew]

Isnmy formation the best i can do?

[scarlet depot]

i need help with this lvl, i appreciate it

[still plover]

Any suggestions?

[still plover]

Try removing a armour pice from Thoran and maybe frontline Talene, I’m no pro but hope it helps

[livid lion]

somebody help i think im going insane

[rigid slate]

Need a bit of help on this stage.. the current formation I can kill 1 person atleast

[split peak]

@rigid slate try ainz up front also rowan too u are really missing some crucial heroes like albedo and arthur to really make ainz do his magic also i like having tasi in with ainz or farael

[rigid slate]

Tasi Stuns Saphiya.. my problem is that Athalia..
Will try Ferael.. He enables JOKER's AOE pretty quickly

[split peak]

Slap a thoran to tank her

[gloomy raptor]

Can anyone help me with some progression advice? I started a day ago, currently at 6-12. Running Gwyneth, Daimon, Eironn, Brutus and Ezizh. Should I use up my 24h gold and exp to just force myself through? Or is there a generic algorithm I can follow for efficiency?

[modern surge]

Pushed this chapter for the last 3 hours and I've ended up hardstuck on the LAST stage, it's devastating lmao... any ideas? I'm willing to buy the subscription to get a bonus mercenary if that'd help, if so I'd like to now what I should borrow.

[turbid minnow]

What team can I make with these heros?

[digital skiff]

Wukong to 100

[digital skiff]

Kinda overlevelled
But
Try swapping gwyn with lyca and alna with rosa, or merc a 309 ainz/Lucretia/izold to cheese it

And big mistakes on 309 Gwyneth, up that rowan asap

[digital skiff]

Talene rowan front, bedo ezio ainz back

[digital skiff]

Thoran Brutus shemira rowan lyca

[digital skiff]

Get wukong to lvl 100

[sullen ibex]

Hardstuck any tips guys?

[livid lion]

any specific dura artifacts i should give to them?

[pastel isle]

could need adivice for this multi

i can beat the first team with ainzbedo comp, but not even close to beat the second^^

[hybrid nacelle]

Any ideas?

I pretty marched through all of ch 15 with that lineup but cece instead of the mermaid. But this chapter boss is so freaking strong. Tomorrow is friend hero reset, so if you have any suggestions which hero I should ask for, for this boss I'd also take that

[sick heart]

hi guys is there any ideas to beat this stage ? i am getting tilted xD

[modern surge]

I'll get the lucretia, thanks for the help; also thanks for the tip on rowan; salary hits in 7 days ill get all resources needed

[digital skiff]

Swap pop with brutus and like
Lyca
Tasi
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon

[summer cedar]

need to disrupt the mehira.

[dark wind]

Got it i cleared it

[summer cedar]

thoran brutus lyca rowan daimon. you'll pass 25 with this.

[summer cedar]

I don't see why u need to CC safi when brutus is already tanking her. just merc a 303 albedo.

[summer cedar]

ainz r1 daimon r2
try brutus arthur albedo rowan ainz
some combo of daimon fera tasi.

[near jolt]

this stage is a mess

[minor whale]

Didn't work :/

[minor whale]

Especially since you're playing rowan wrong. Swap rowan and mirael first and tell me if it fixes things, if not ill need to see your roster one tiny clip doesn't help anyone help ya

[pale kettle]

Im stuck, Ogi is always throwing my heroes

[pale kettle]

you could try Lyca instead of Mirael and switching Lucius and Brutus, also maybe Wu Kong instead of someone else

Ok thanks 🙏

it works u genius

I am very thankful

Im actually pretty dumb, Lyca just gives haste which lets everyone else attack more

[spiral quail]

Someone please help me im losing my mind on this

[livid lion]

please help.

[stiff shard]

got nara? @livid lion nara isabellas you find, but regardless don’t put ainz across from her since she’ll drain the opposite’s energy

[livid lion]

i dont have a nara and honestly it wouldve gone much smoother like u have said. i tried getting nara from some graveborn faction scrolls but i just got a daimon copy

[stiff shard]

you didn’t choose 1st nara from the chest? :(

[livid lion]

i tried using eirron as a replacement but because he absorbs multiple target they just grouped up and killed everyone way too quickly

[livid lion]

nope

i think i chose rowan

[stiff shard]

rowan wasn’t a choice, it was lucius, nemora, khasos, nara, scrolls

[livid lion]

hmm then idk what i chose but it wasnt nara it was prob lucius

since i was trynna get lucius copies to get him to mythic in order for him to survive longer for shields

obviously thats not an option anymore

the main issue is that usually its albedo and ainz having to face all of them and it looks like their hp should fine but there’s something that just instantly kills them but i cant figure out who’s doing that

[past kestrel]

So I have not yet really built a second team, my main being the ainz, albedo,Arthur,Rowan,talene .
I have no idea who to use for a second team. I have been fluking my way through chapter 31.
Any good teams I can make with what I have?

[pale kettle]

look at the damage at the end of the battle, its probably isabella though

[iron finch]

You can use daimon as 2nd carry, also split rowan and talene into 2 teams

[blazing portal]

Hey, may I ask for an arena team here ?

[iron finch]

Daimon rowan brutus + 2 others like tasi/thoran/ezio/grez/ferael/lyca

[blazing portal]

Can you help me get two squads for arena ? One for attack and the other for the defense

[digital skiff]

I mean, both should be for attack

Ainzbedo 5pull are options

[iron finch]

Since you havent gotten skriath 3/9 for 5 pull

You can try the older setup for now, eironn lyca tasi rowan safiya

[karmic marsh]

Can someone tell me a good lineup I should be using? I focus all stuff PvE, not really into PvP

[digital skiff]

Don't make legendary heroes

[muted dust]

My albedo is not yet SI 30, and I'm having trouble making a second team

Currently have no idea how I'm going to survive this chapter and the next, any ideas for comps and what should I focus on?

[karmic marsh]

But what lineup should I use

[maiden marsh]

off the top of my head:
give ferael to daimon, he's his best friend
joker with ainz, take out saurus and gwyn
use brutus somewhere, on one of the teams

[iron finch]

Im not familiar with early game anymore so take it with a grain of salt

Put daimon behind thoran, also heard wukong is good early game so silas/mortas may be replaced by wukong if you need another frontline

Or build L+ hogan

Another team i can think of is sth like wukong eluard tasi mirael rosa

Rosa following mirael for more ult, eluard shield for wukong, tasi cc

Try to build daimon to carry 160+, put rowan on WL if havent

And put nara in res crystal, she can counter annoying backline

[edgy dawn]

Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone could help me make a team for faction Kings Tower, I'm at stage ~130 IIRC

[flat forum]

try to upgrade ur Tasi she is a great help also a Tank is a good option. But yes i also have the problem with no tank for wilders

most of the time u need to change the formation saurus is a great lead for the first row lyca can also be part of it

Nemora is a good healer

[edgy dawn]

Yeah, I've been using Tasi, Eironn, Nemora / Lyca, Saurus

But it's been performing worse over time, feels like I'm missing something

[flat forum]

well Tasi is elite + and nemora legendary +

i'm at stage 186 with Tasi Saurus Eironn acended

and the level from your crystal

[edgy dawn]

So now it would be Tasi over Nemora, right? Even if the latter is higher ascendancy already

[flat forum]

i think yes because tasis ulti and skills are pretty handy

My Wilders atm

[edgy dawn]

Nice, may I ask you about my other factions? If it's not much of a problem

[flat forum]

well i try my best 😄 mauler i dont know that much they suck at my acc

[edgy dawn]

My maulers also suck lol

[flat forum]

u can also write private because of the slow mode if its more messages

[iron finch]

E+ arden can still help sometimes since you just barely past 240

He can root then die

[flat forum]

the rooting boi

[edgy dawn]

These are my lightbearers, right now I'm using Belinda Rowan Fawkes / Lucius Rosa, I probably should upgrade Fawkes but I honestly don't really know

Also floor 100+ but not as high as Wilders

[flat forum]

Lucius is a great tank and healer. Try to get Rowan +30 its very good. I like Fawkes can help with brutus his immunitzy shild

do you have Arthur? also a great tank

[flat forum]

Lyca for Ezio or talene out for Lyca

[digital skiff]

Rowan front, silas in rowans place, brutus out

This was what i used iirc

[elder gale]

i had no succes with sylas thoran over brutus and sylas over tasi

[digital skiff]

You need that one rng where silas lives enough to make daimon immune for more then 2 times

And nemora is banished/cc'd

[pale kettle]

I'm having trouble beating this. Any tips?

[elder gale]

thats what tasi helped with

[digital skiff]

What does she banish

[elder gale]

LOL I PASSED IT , I did daimon thoran sylas tasi rowan,i hit perfect rng that fight. okay time to push to ch30 igeuss lol

[digital skiff]

Who did she banish btw

29-54 has a mehira ezizh gift for you

[elder gale]

im not sure i think my boy turtle , i had x4 didnt catch it, not nemora/tasi/ulmus tho

[pale kettle]

That one was miserable

[digital skiff]

Cant clap mehira with nara if daimon cant ult

[elder gale]

dude what do you do about mehira charm into daimon

[digital skiff]

Mehira herself is easy beans with nara

[elder gale]

if mehira gets coverred her charm is horrid at deficit

[digital skiff]

Assuming you don't get bursed, cc'd,brutus'ed,rooted

Or tasi'd

[elder gale]

also brutus usually one shots daimon if he gets to immunity state at low hp

[digital skiff]

That's unless daimon 1v4s others and doesn't have the perma stats

[elder gale]

i usually mirror daimon to brutus , opposit side as far away as possible

[past urchin]

Theres 3 or 4 more Tasi/Nemora/Ulmus stages in 29 btw.
Have fun lol.

[digital skiff]

Fun...

[pale kettle]

Ainz nuke

[digital skiff]

I got a 203 eizo 103 ainz

203 bedo but she's expired, or I'd clap ainzbedo

[pale kettle]

Bedo is underwhelming for me

[elder gale]

i dont have albedo for ainz so it be rough, next labyrinth rotation il have arthur

[digital skiff]

She's huge in a lot of aspects

[pale kettle]

Big booty

[digital skiff]

😋

[past urchin]

Shes half the Ainz comp.
Needs +30 SI though.

[digital skiff]

And needs to survive atleast 3 seconds

[pale kettle]

She still dies pretty early for me
I have to put her in backline alot

[flat forum]

playing ainz also without albedo

[digital skiff]

I put ezio front and bedo back and she still dies first

[past urchin]

Cuz you dont frontline her.
Shes pretty bad at tanking.

[elder gale]

can we also get afuck fereal in chat lol

[digital skiff]

I use him so no
Fuq ferael

[pale kettle]

I wish I could

[elder gale]

i see people around me in ch 29 that are rc 280to 300 , it makes me feeel out of place lol

[digital skiff]

I see 265 rc in ch 29 smh

I need 20k dust for crystal break and I'll clap ch 29 then

Not worth the mental pain of macro

[past urchin]

I cleared it at 271.
You can probably do it much earlier these days.
Cause chasmic nerf and no powercap exists anymore.

[pale kettle]

I grinded so hard to get to ch30. So I can loot t3 stones

Wait, there's no more powercap?

[maiden marsh]

It was essentially removed.

[past urchin]

Its so low it practically doesnt exist.
Like 4M in ch 34 lol

[pale kettle]

Btw can I get help with my lineup?

[digital skiff]

Yes

[elder gale]

29 18 now i be cruising

[digital skiff]

Dont make me push man

[pale kettle]

Im trying to pass this

[digital skiff]

Lyca bedo create a gap because they'll die ez

[elder gale]

im not sure wouldnt albedo want antoher hypo so put in prince instead of lyca, but i dont even know

just mean bc of her si

[digital skiff]

Ferael
Arthur
Ainz
Rowan
Albedo

[elder gale]

29 28, push boy , push @digital skiff

[pale kettle]

Fereal dies immediately to Nara

[digital skiff]

No pls

[past urchin]

Let her hook Rowan.
Ainz
Rowan
Tasi
Arthur
Albedo
@pale kettle

Blade on Ainz

Tasi call
Arthur chalice.
Albedo too (or barricade)

[elder gale]

il keep updating my last message as i move on scummy boy

[pale kettle]

Hey so I won that stage.
Talene
Lyca
Ainz
Arthur
Albedo

[elder gale]

@digital skiff atm at 29 40 just saying . start pushing

[digital skiff]

Stop sheesh

Let me breath

[elder gale]

no shot brudda

[digital skiff]

I need to wait for 240 crystal

I have too many competitors

[woven mason]

how should I beat this? I have thoran and 5 pull without rowan but twins are stunning eirron and I don t know how should I place heroes to really do thoran cheese. He gets his ult off but it does no damage atm

[pale kettle]

Do you have Nara

[woven mason]

yea

[past urchin]

Eh...
You would need insane amounts of luck to cheese Brutus without +30.

Just saying :/

[woven mason]

I know and I did it once before but I don t know how would I 5 pull this. I can t 5 pull other team bcs it has rosaline

[past urchin]

You gotta pop his invulnerability BEFORE Thoran ults.
Which is lowkey impossible.

[patent hemlock]

Welp, gonna be here for a while.

[woven mason]

I could do it if twins don t stun eirron XD

[past urchin]

Twins?
Raine if anything.
Twins dont stun people.

[woven mason]

twins 3rd ability

[patent hemlock]

Any help?

[elder gale]

@digital skiff im stuck on this one my man any advice

[patent hemlock]

Send hero box

[patent hemlock]

Try Thoran Brutus Fearel Daimon Rowan, make sure your fearel doesn’t have a mythic weapon on so he can get his fear off.

[patent hemlock]

If not, try tasi in place of fearel

[elder gale]

Why cant he get his fear of with a mythic weapon?

[patent hemlock]

He can, he just gets it off first before his accursed arrow without the mythic weapon. The mythic weapon gives him a secret buff, but most of the time you’d want to get that fear to go off first.

Try usually having daimon back line also. And if rowan back line doesn’t work, move him where brutus is.

[elder gale]

With tasi instead of fareal i pulled it off. Making brutus/thoran tank athalia in the corner

[patent hemlock]

Good stuff!

[elder gale]

Thiran tanked it died. Then brutus invincibility into thoran stun

[patent hemlock]

You passed it though or no?

[elder gale]

I sid. 29 54 is something else. I already got warned about it before.

[ebon hazel]

Need a Nara fast enough to pull the Mehria

Isabella Hendrik is a new hell

[elder gale]

I feel isabella counter daimon too he gets bursted too hard

[patent hemlock]

You need a nara to pull that mehira

[ebon hazel]

Isa counters everyone once she ults

[elder gale]

I pull mehira and i still losr

[patent hemlock]

Try Lyca Rowan Tasi Nara Daimon

[ebon hazel]

You need to pull before the bats spawn, so the best would likely be
Lyca Rowan Silias Nara Daimon

[patent hemlock]

That can work too

[elder gale]

Both comps barely seem to budge. I insta pull her but no shot

[woven mason]

I believe I used eirron on bottom frontline or bottom backline and tasi behind rowan on top

[ebon hazel]

Eironn can't disrupt bats

[woven mason]

it s for bursting damage dealers

[elder gale]

I pull mehira in then turle boy comes in and taunts everyone off of her and i die instantyl

[digital skiff]

Gorvo has been hell for me in ch29

Worse backline shïtter then hypo mage

[woven mason]

did you manage to stop mehira from bats?

[patent hemlock]

It was a tough one

[elder gale]

She has the 3 bat icons above her head but even in slow mo i dont see any summons

[woven mason]

then you didn t pull her fast enough

put call on nara and have lyca in team and that should be enough

[elder gale]

Tried that. And it doesnt seem like its an energy issue. Nara start animation as the fight begins

[woven mason]

call is not for energy, it gives nara haste

[elder gale]

Putting on call actually made it so she didnt get the bats but i still hard lose though

[woven mason]

that s start. now you need to work forward from there

[elder gale]

The taunt from the turtle guy blows and raine is top dps

[woven mason]

I used daymon, eirron tasi. But I was 290 level and this event wasn t active

[elder gale]

I mean this event does nothing till it actually finishes right

[woven mason]

no, enemies are already around 20 levels below what they were before

[elder gale]

Thought it only had effect once the boss actuallly drops

Imo il try it tomorrow to improve from qhat ive got so far

[patent hemlock]

If you’re hard stuck, try out afkhelper and just try a bunch of different comps if needed

[smoky anvil]

Anyone?

[livid lion]

please help

[normal grail]

One thing that often helps me in a level with a strong caster is to use Nara to pull them in

[iron finch]

If no nara or athalia, maybe try tasi and see if she can banish isa/shem

[nocturne ridge]

I’m stuck hmm can somebody help me

[deep harbor]

any good character in this?

for this team

[iron finch]

Lyca is good

[pale kettle]

you could probably go Daimon Thoran front line and Lyca Isabella Rowan backline

[scarlet seal]

you had a very luck pull, just build safiya, shes decent and u can later garrison ainz and merge them

[vital pine]

Best comp with ascended?

[scarlet seal]

@vital pine u can use several comps, for example albedo, rowan, ainz, ferael, lyca/tasi

or use brutus front with albedo and backrow ainz, ferael, rowan

[vital pine]

Okay, who should I work towards next?

[scarlet seal]

also eironn/daimon comps viable, next: save for prince of persia and besides that try to buy arthur

[vital pine]

Ight

[scarlet seal]

garrison ezio, Id even consider foddering ur L+ shemira into silas for example

[night relic]

need help

[pale kettle]

Daimon
Rowan
Fereal
Lucious
Nara

[night relic]

tyyy

[minor whale]

Can I get help with 20-4

[split peak]

@minor whale i would take talene out of that team and probably put rowan there to tank and energy regen

[minor whale]

Okay I'll try it

[minor whale]

Worked but stuck immediately after so I must just be underleveled. Guess I'll come back tomorrow u til I can get izold to A. Just need one more izold copy

[night relic]

lineup is doing work @pale kettle i’m at 21-36 now lmfao

[pale kettle]

Yeah i am at 22-6 with about the same lineup

Speakin about that i stuck at 22-6. Any advise?

[narrow sleet]

allah save me

[ebon hazel]

Does Ezio get his ult off?

[livid lion]

ye

he lives long enough to kill off one of them if i get lucky

[pale kettle]

Do ainz or albedo get their ult off?

[livid lion]

yup

ainz twice sometimes but isabella usually would ult and kill them off

[pale kettle]

How much HP do Ferael and Isabella have after Ainz ults

[livid lion]

uhhh about 65% - 70% roughly

[pale kettle]

So if an ainz ult does 35% with a crit and he can ult twice does that bring them into ezios kill range?

[livid lion]

about ya but i’d say thats highly unlikely since ezio would be dead by then unless if his dodges come in clutch

not to mention they heal surprisingly fast

[pale kettle]

I thought niru only healed himself

[livid lion]

idk their base healing on its own is still problematic because nobody deals a singles dent on them except ainz

and ainz ulti’ing twice is a rare chance and adding that with ezio ulting and staying alive is basically impossible

[pale kettle]

how important is albedo for you in that stage? does she help ainz stay alive or can you switch her out?

[livid lion]

albedo technically keeps everyone alive ultimately because when she protects ainz she attracts a majority of the enemies

she’s a must have in the team. same as rowan and talene. not sure about ezio

[pale kettle]

You can try daimon instead of ezio and see how that works, if that isnt cutting it you might have to place ainz where ezio currently is so he wont get his energy absorbed as much by bella

[dim glacier]

may someone help me with this stage?

[pale kettle]

with ainz comp you will have to rely on a lot of luck with him critting everyone for campaign sometimes @livid lion

[livid lion]

both didnt work but daimon was a bit promising

[pale kettle]

can you use Thoran Cheese? (not sure if itll work here but its worth a shot)

rip, those kind of full GB stages can be annoying but you can try retrying a lot anf if it still wont work you can wait for afk rewards or use a fully built Mercinairy Ainz

[livid lion]

alr thanks

if it comes to the mercenary strat can i just use a fully built albedo for ainzbedo cheese?

[dim glacier]

thoran dies before he can ult. i don’t have his sig item upgraded though, only unlocked

[pale kettle]

Fully built Ainz is better as his ult will deal 30% more damage and has a higher chance to crit/do more damage with a crit (cant remember which it is off the top of my head), not sure if a fully built albedo will work though

[livid lion]

just thought the 9 second invincibility could work

[pale kettle]

If you have an albedo merc already it cant hurt to try i suppose

[livid lion]

if you fail with merc does it not let u use them anymore

[pale kettle]

no, you can use a merc infinitely until you win for campaign

[livid lion]

ok ok

im getting sorta hyped now because i’ve been dying to stargaze for twins now with my 20 cards

[pale kettle]

you are guaranteed a twins (or whoever you decide to gaze for) the very first pull if you do a 10 pull, if you do a single you are not so do a 10 pull

[pale kettle]

that sucks but I think it should still be possible, maybe you can try with rowan and other tanks to stall and help Thoran get his ult?

[livid lion]

just to make sure twins are what i SHOULD gaze for right?

[dim glacier]

he gets to charging it but doesn’t live to actually do damage. i tried replacing the rest of my team with tanks + rowan but everyone else is dead by the time thoran tries to ult

actually maybe he does ult but doesn’t do enough damage

[pale kettle]

yep, you can either do twins straight to E+ or get a copy of twins then go for a copy of mortas then do another copy of twins

[pale kettle]

what is the deficit?, I feel like if he ults you can see the damage bc it should be fairly high

[dim glacier]

yeah i looked at the damage, he does ult but it’s not enough damage. i realized that w only thoran + rowan + tanks, enemies are bout 2x my power. there’s probably little i can do but wait until i can level people

[pale kettle]

ah thats unfortunate, I think his cheese works best at +30 and at high deficits so sorry if i wasted your time there

[dim glacier]

no worries, i should’ve realized the deficit was too high sooner. i didn’t realize he lived through his ult because of numisu’s healing and kept accidentally clicking past the stats screen 😅

[placid matrix]

Ill leave this cancer here overnight

Ps i have crap gear

[pale kettle]

Im just as stuck as that one boat that got stuck in the canal

[pale kettle]

if dps is the isuue try wu kong instead of lucius

[uneven tide]

Still kinda new to the game, so this may lead to more questions... But just wondering if I should bother investing anything into Shamira's Signature Item? I'm currently about midway through chapter 12, and have her ascended. I plan to use her as long as she's useful, or until I find a comp I want more.

I can post screenshots of what I have if it will help.

[pale kettle]

easy thoran cheese? taint on mirael, link on lucius/fawkes

[smoky anvil]

Anyone?

[summer cobalt]

Is this like my end game team?

[charred ermine]

One of your end game teams, that is you're almost on multis, better build a next one

[summer cobalt]

What do you mean? Multi? Two battles?

[fierce viper]

The end goal of the game is to build the best 5 teams you can

[summer cobalt]

Jesus....

[fierce viper]

Although really you only need 4, because lucretia is a team

[naive kindle]

Help. Stuck at 18-13.

[pale kettle]

Gwenyth
Lucious
Rowan
Tidus
Lyca

Not a pro at this, but like to help out

[naive kindle]

No eironn?

[split peak]

Gwen is no longer what she used to be eironn is far better especially as its his main carry

[naive kindle]

I tried his team and doest work lol

[warm bison]

I need help with second team, I've marked the heroes I've already used/fused with used heroes

[elder gale]

a decent daimon comp is
tasi
brutus
lyca
lucius
daimon

only thing im not sure about is lucius or what other unit u could put in there

[manic tapir]

Since we are talking Daimon do people spot a better goto comp than the one I'm using for relatively early game? My comp is:
Daimon, Thoran, Tasi, Silas and a flex that is usually my rented Rowan atm but sometimes Desira or Gwyneth/Saevas

[near jolt]

hey there I've been stuck here for a bit, I've tried everything and need a bit of help, everyone dies until daimon ia left solo and then he can't tank through it

I could also ascend belinda to Legendary +, but I'm a bit hesitant on doing that(hoping for another Rowan copy soon)

[analog lichen]

I understand that my team is near to peak performance 😏 but what options do I really have to go from here

[pale kettle]

Cheese

[pale kettle]

[ionic lava]

So I'm on the last stage of ch 14 but I'm stuck

[low ravine]

You really messed up. Read the pinned guides in #classic-questions first please

[ionic lava]

How ?

[low ravine]

How what?

[ionic lava]

I mean what have I done

[main orbit]

Dont make heroes L of you cant make em L+

[low ravine]

Your entire box is full of heroes at L. While you should only be ascending 5 at a time. If you read the pins you will find out how you messed up

[ionic lava]

Oh ok

[icy parcel]

you should have been leveling Fodder heroes past 120, your resonant crystal would be 160 instead of 140

[ionic lava]

Oh ok

I know I have messed up but what can I do to win if possible

[valid bobcat]

LMAO

[icy parcel]

mirror positions, Ainz <> Oden, Lyca<>Brutus, you want Ainz away from estrilda
then put Rowan in middle and make Nara opposite to Belinda

[ionic lava]

Ok

Yessss

[glad belfry]

What is wrong with Rowan Vs thoran cheese ? No matter what I try he always ends up not taking any damage while I manage to kill the 4 others with retaliation

[pale kettle]

Because it's Rowan

[glad belfry]

I read his ability again I guess I have to find another comp to pass this cause there's no way around his dmg immunity

[pale kettle]

You legit can't cheese Rowan because either he will dodge+he deals no damage and can't reflect anything

[dusk finch]

so i just figured out that i’ve been shooting myself in the foot with my leveling decisions but i’m not sure what’s the best way to fix it, anyone know how i should proceed with this?

[quartz valve]

Hello, I just start the game. Do you have an advice, what I should level first? I'm stuck to 9-20.

[charred ermine]

Dang, thats fixable but you def need to afk for a long time. Else, if u dont wanna wait, you can just start into another server and dont do the same mistakes

Or you can do both - make another one while fixing your main account

[keen jungle]

Idk how im stuck

[dusk finch]

damn, well if it’s fixable i at least won’t abandon it, any tips for a formation in the meantime?

[floral minnow]

Hello good people, look for an advice on what to do next, i just got my first switch scroll and was thinking to swap shemira for farael or fara bit im not sure, any advice is welcome thanks in advance.

[timid solar]

Maybe switch for raku when his new hero timer wears off

[floral minnow]

Why raku?

[pale kettle]

Raku has god comp with Prince of Persia and is legit one of the best heroes rn

[fervent basalt]

Any tips? Got a spot in the rc aswell

[split oar]

any idea of how to beat this?

[quaint kiln]

Anyone can help me build 4 teams for chapter 33?

[pale kettle]

Definitely not 5 pull because Brutus will demolish you

[summer cedar]

At the risk of sounding rude, I'd restart. Read the pins in #classic-questions to get an idea of what to do better. It's faster to start fresh than fix this.

[summer cedar]

Arden is really bad front esp against saveas. Try brutus 2 arden 5 ainz 3

[summer cedar]

Nobody worth swapping. Raku needs +30. Also #classic-questions

[summer cedar]

Brutus Lucius arden mira rowan might work. Get mira to 160 asap

[split oar]

@pale kettle welp brutus wasnt and isnt a problem for my 5 pull xD pushed 3 chapters with that comp easily and i dont even have all my heroes at 240. I would say tasi and ulmus give me the headache

[pale kettle]

Ainz Or cheese them with Lucretia

[split oar]

rip then got none of them

[pale kettle]

Tried with afk helper?

[summer cedar]

Brutus can be 5pulled. Tasi is the problem. Best counters to tasi are thoran daimon and izold which u don't have. Next best option is nuke w saf or ainz but higher rng since she can blink. Basically... gl

[split oar]

@summer cedar thx will try to get a 30/9 ainz for it

[summer cedar]

I'd personally keep trying w safi or merc a daimon but that works. Problem w ainz is u don't have albedo or proper stall units

[keen jungle]

Stuck again 🙂

[smoky anvil]

can anyone help?

[frigid linden]

anyone got an idea?

[fervent parrot]

If eironn isnt too squishy put him instead of daimon, or just switch them

And switch lyca and sasfiya

@frigid linden

[inland egret]

@quaint kiln 5pull,ainz,lucretia cheese,thoram cheese,daimon,portalparty,izold cheese

[vocal whale]

Can anyone help me build a second team?? Who should i focus?

Can make thoran A or izold A.

[digital skiff]

Can you +30 3/3 izold??

[nocturne ridge]

I’m stuck, silvina keeps killing my Rowan first

[topaz rain]

Ok i just arrived at 33-4, where 4 battles starts. I used a daimon comp, a ainz comp, and eironn/safiya/saurus for the last stage until there. Any idea to make 2 good teams with what i have? I’m also slowly building lucrecia

[trail jackal]

Omg someone pls help me

[iron finch]

5 pull, thoran cheese, saurus cycle

[maiden marsh]

Ainz
Thoran
Daimon
5 pull
You're actually in a great place for 5x multis tbh.

[quasi matrix]

Hi, been doing ok and then got stuck. Been cycling my tanks and switching Shemira/Arden/tasi/saveas to no avail. Any suggestions to try?

[topaz rain]

Thanks guys, i’ll +30 thoran and then learn about saurus comps 🙂

[maiden marsh]

Saurus will bide you over in the meantime but you'll want to form another comp to replace him. Something like portals or raku, a nice flex carry to round things out.

[smoky anvil]

still stuck if anyone has got any ideas for this

[topaz rain]

I was planing on having lucrecia by then but i think i might be short on time

[maiden marsh]

Half a chapter is a bit of a time crunch, yeah. She'll be an awesome addition when you get her but building another carry is great planning for when you phase out 5 pull anyways.

[topaz rain]

But she will maybe work at M+ if +30 9/9