lineup-help

[nimble fossil]

Athalia is such a piece of shit

Rosa included

[low sable]

@pale kettle How do you not have Nara in your crystal?

[pale kettle]

Idk i play since 2weeks

Should I switch Lyca with someone?

Nvm I'll just use this lineup until I get stuck

[quasi matrix]

Any help or glaring silliness on my part?

[scarlet depot]

need some help. i appreciate it

[half atlas]

swap daimon for shemira

[maiden marsh]

Shemira and rosaline out for eironn and daimon

[dim glacier]

i die as soon as grezhul or isabella ult. what comps to try?

[valid bobcat]

anyway?

[deep harbor]

guys i need some help, my friend has better rng then me not im lost can someone help me with a build

[spring robin]

for now you can't do much but with what you have you need to focus on daimon and rowan mainly

[spring robin]

have you tried swaping daimon and rowan?

[spring robin]

grab isabella with nara
tasi top frontlane rowan bot frontlane
talene top backlane daimon mid backlane
this should work

[valid bobcat]

yea, ive tried quite a couple of things, doesnt much seem to work think i just have to wait for exp

[spring robin]

have you tried with arden instead of pippa?

and lyca instead of oden too

[valid bobcat]

i could try, but i have no faith in l+ heroes tho

[spring robin]

you have arden and tasi to hard lock cc rowan to heal and lyca for speed

arden is broken

idk at which level he roots 2 ppl you'll have to check

[valid bobcat]

2, would feral just be better?

[spring robin]

hmm I'm not quite sure not agains't brutus kaz frontlane

[valid bobcat]

ferael is 3, and nah, no chance

think i might just have to wait for exp for a while, my team is getting killed in like 2 seconds\

[spring robin]

I'm pretty sure something with like in order : tasi daimon lyca rowan arden could work as long as you have the rng to survive till tasi ult

[valid bobcat]

done that before, even if tasi ults daimon just dies 1v5

i think i need 1 crystal slot for brutus and a daimon

[spring robin]

hmm well sorry yeah I think you'll have to wait

[valid bobcat]

yea its all good, i will try to use ur team some times tho tyty

[trim dew]

Silas istead of who

[spring robin]

nemora imo

[trim dew]

But nemora is my only ascended

Other then Daimon

[spring robin]

on your screenshot she's only elite

[trim dew]

Now i got her

Elite +

[spring robin]

it's really not much

the only thing this level of elevation is great for is level cap

[spring robin]

yeah it's no problem you'll get other copies of your main team nemora is really low tier

[trim dew]

Okk noted so Silas way better rigjt?

[spring robin]

look at this wishlist tierlist

[spring robin]

yeah I'm not sure about early early game but after some levels yes without a doubt

[trim dew]

Alrighty and silas will give me 5 man buff

[spring robin]

as well yes

if you get lucky on your graveborn pulls your account could be a graveborn rush acc it can be really fun!

[trim dew]

Im full graveborn so far

[green fossil]

is there a unit tier list?

[naive kindle]

Team for ch16?

[quaint kiln]

Help pls.I am stuck

[honest blaze]

i'm hardstuck on this, please help

[mortal sable]

any advice?

[woven mason]

have you tried making mirael your carry?

[woven mason]

I used ainz team with level 298 for that

[viral hinge]

Who should I focus on?

[mortal sable]

i did try but she seems to be too squishy with my Setup I feel like

[woven mason]

Since you already have M shemira, I think that she could better carry then eirron for your level. You just need M+

[viral hinge]

Anyone? Please?

[charred magnet]

Help please

[naive kindle]

But she isnt meta anymore right?

[woven mason]

well you don t have daymon. Shemira isn t worse then she was. We just got daymon that s better

[woven mason]

have you tried with brutus? I don t know how battle goes but usually you just need to get her ult and she deletes everything

[naive kindle]

i have daimon e+

[errant pike]

How much lvl differance is still doable? I feel like my heroes get instakilled by everything here

[woven mason]

well you need at least M or M+ with 20 SI

[woven mason]

you need arthur, lucius is weak in high level deficits

[naive kindle]

so i cant use eironn rn and should use shemira instead?

[errant pike]

damn so i spend 100 bucks or get him from lab store and forget abt prince?

[woven mason]

I never used eirron before 240 and after that I used him in combination with daymon or 5 pull. He s super squishy and unless you can delete enemies fast or have really strong wepons and boots (at least T1 with some stars) then he s not really viable

[woven mason]

well arthur is absolutly the best for ainz team so it s worth it. I spent 2-3 months to get him and I m not sorry about it.

[errant pike]

so prince of persia wouldn't benefit me as much as him?

[naive kindle]

mmm ait. what team can i use then to clear ch16 then?

i think i can make shemira M+, not sure tho

[charred magnet]

How do I beat this I’ve tried so much stuff lmao

[woven mason]

hmm I didn t yet used him but here s the thing. Ainz needs somebody to tank all the damage in front of him. I used thoran and skreg before arthur but arthur has more abilities that really benefit ainz. I haven t used dastan yet but he s not tank. You could use him against some teams as support but he ll never defend ainz as much as arthur or some other tank does

[errant pike]

alright imma safe up for him and hire prince via garrison when he's there

[woven mason]

I used shemira all the way to ch 22 I think so you can use her and later use swap scrolls. You can wait for daymon to get 4 copies of him or you cna wait until you get enough levels to brute force through chapters. Another option is to use ainz. That s self explanatory

[woven mason]

Sry if I didn t explain it well. You should get dastan during this exchange because it s a loooot cheaper then getting garison. Getting arthur should be secondary objective. It s pain in the ass but it s longterm best option

[woven mason]

have you tried afk helper?

[charred magnet]

Hey rabbit is using a swap scroll on Shem to daimon when my Shem is 4* +21 3/9?, what’s that

[errant pike]

alright thx for clarification

[naive kindle]

so rn i should wait?

[charred magnet]

What’s afk helper?

[woven mason]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[charred magnet]

Ah ty what u think of the swap scroll idea btw

I’m also f2p so I don’t wanna waste stuff

[dusk portal]

help pls

[woven mason]

I told you what you can do. If I were you I would probably get ainz or ascend shemira since you have her at M so it s waste of fodder to leave her at M.

[woven mason]

Honestly many would kill me for saying this but it s probably not bad idea, depending how many copies of daymon you have

[charred magnet]

5

But I also have a 5* 8/9 +27 eironn

[woven mason]

use brutus and check guides in questions channel

[dusk portal]

what if i dont have brutus 😟

[naive kindle]

so a team involving shemira M+ or ainz? how about tanks i should use? daimon e+ viable?

[woven mason]

problem with swapping is that excess daymon copies will become fodder. But it will help your progress

[charred magnet]

I would use an e+ to get from 4 to 5 star

[woven mason]

apsolutly not. Daymon is not really a tank. He s squishy as hell. Tanks are brutus, high ascension thoran, skreg, arthur, albedo, alna etc.

[naive kindle]

what tanks can i use then?

[woven mason]

you ll use what you have and what you need for each battle. Optimal team is Albedo, Arthur, Rowan plus support like tasi/fareal/lyca etc.

and ezio

[naive kindle]

mm ait then ty

[woven mason]

you d still have E+ and E daymon for fodder

[charred magnet]

Would I? If I changed an e+ to 4* then used one to get 5* I’d only have an e left right?

[woven mason]

I don t think tasi should be front line at this low ascension and you could use nara to pull saveas

[dusk portal]

alright

[woven mason]

true, I didn t think of that. Still any future daymon from purple stones would be fodder but I guess that s less important

btw I don t know how much are you spending and how you make your wishlist but I suggest you get more different A heroes instead getting a lot of stars bcs you ll need it later in game and you ll be more flexible when chosing best team for battle

[jolly zenith]

Suggestions between ezizh or athalia for my challenger coins? I’m only on chapter 16 rn and didn’t know if I want to start building towards god comp yet

[woven mason]

eziz

[jolly zenith]

@woven mason thank you

[prisma bramble]

I'm Stuck In 8-20, pls recommend me a line up, I can't make a good one

[pale kettle]

I'm doing decently so far, but I'm usually lack really far behind in damage for bosses, I didn't know if someone could recommend a lineup for guild hunt bosses and such

[errant pike]

Hey is it possible for me to beat this stage at my point? I virtually tried everything but i feel like i should've beaten this chapter by now

[tight talon]

Any ideas for a early game Ainz team?? Chapter 17

[errant pike]

I used ainz, albedo, lucius, ezio, rowan and thalene till now (chapter 25)

[tight talon]

THX:) I got daimon carry until now I guess he can work with ainz aswell?!

[errant pike]

@tight talon deinem namen zufolge denk ich ich kann mit dir deutsch reden xD Daimon kann auch funzen aber bei der ainz comp is halt wichtig das er so lang wie möglich zeit hatt seine ults zu zünden also such die sachen die ned sterben können oder crazy healen

[tight talon]

haha richtig gesehen:) ja werde Daimon benutzen weil er mein einziger (1 stern) Aufgestiegener Held ist. Danke für die Tipps. Talene und Rowan hab ich auch noch also das klappt hoffentlich

[errant pike]

sollte kein problem sein bis chapter 25

[signal beacon]

Hello anyone could made me a Lineup..? I am a noob and don't have many heroes :/

[errant pike]

i'd try lucius and the turtle guy in the front and belinda, tasi and your trial celestial in the back

maybe try putting flora in there too

[signal beacon]

Who is tasi?

[errant pike]

the fairy

[signal beacon]

Ok ok

[errant pike]

but i'm no pro too, only chapter 25 here xD so take it w a grain of salt

[signal beacon]

And when Celestial is not there anymoee..?

[errant pike]

then i'd try putting in another wilder that does some dmg like the windchild or some more sustain w flora

[signal beacon]

Ok ok

[errant pike]

depends on enemies i guess

[signal beacon]

Thank you so much ! '^' I was blocked at Chapter 7 so...

[woven mason]

follow the guide in questions channel bcs you already made few mistakes

[signal beacon]

Which mistake i made? o:

[woven mason]

you shouldn t have ascended belinda and you shouldn t have ascended hero to L before you had enough copies to get her to L+

[cedar quartz]

Not that good with making lineups myself so what can I do here?

[errant pike]

i mean he/she could link the belinda to a dimensional later on right? or use the swap scroll to make up some mistakes

[woven mason]

it s not worth wasting month of work pulling her as bag just bcs you can link her later on. Second problem is he can t even put her to L+ without another copy of her with will be problem in itself

that s why mirael is always recomended bcs you can always fodder her later on and it s easy to get her L+

plus @signal beacon you probably need to adjust your wishlist

[woven mason]

max your mirael level and then level up everybody else

[cedar quartz]

Bet

[signal beacon]

What is wishlist

[errant pike]

Look at your tavern, you should see a lil icon in the top left corner that says "wishlist"

Put the heros you see in ss or s tier in there so you just pull these heroes out of the tavern

[woven mason]

you should really check guides since it s all explained there and more. You ll learn everything you need to know

[pale kettle]

Could somebody help me find a lineup for the guild hunt boss, I'm pretty bad at it

[peak ingot]

Hey guys I need a really budget Oden lineup for chap 33 not many units open as they are in the other 4 teams standout units avaliable are pippa tahlene but they are mythic I also have most lightbearers still available

[woven mason]

thoran?

[peak ingot]

he's open yes

[woven mason]

then use thoran cheese

[peak ingot]

okay

a lot of repeats but I guess it is best >.<

[woven mason]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/m5wji8/a_comprehensive_guide_to_thoran_cheese_even_for/

[peak ingot]

Nice thanks man

[woven mason]

np

[bronze nebula]

When should I stop using wukong and is it smart to keep leveling up my saveas, because somebody told me that golus is better now ?

[lusty breach]

have 2 slots open in crystal if need to insert but not sure how to beat this

[scarlet depot]

need some help, i appreciate it

[clever patio]

Try that. If it don’t work switch Shem for nimisu

[tired agate]

what would be the best line up against ezizh with these heroes?

[clever patio]

Uh I’d ask in #837307803302625310

[tired agate]

oh mb didn’t know this channel existed

[lusty breach]

could anyone help me out

[clever patio]

I’d for sure use daimon. Try to get him up in ascension level

[lusty breach]

@clever patio oh yea I am, just need help for this stage

[fading oxide]

Could i ask for some help with a comp that goes with daimon?

[pale kettle]

Could anybody help me with a guild hunt comp?

Or possibly a comp that would work with most bosses in the twisted realm? I'm not sure how much they differ for who is good on each different boss though.

[main orbit]

Most bosses have different heroes that are good afainst them, i think shem is good for dark nemora and talene is good for kane, just merc them, for nemora a team i used which was reccomended yo me was Shemira Twins rosaline rowan and lyca, they also said estrilda and mortas were optimal but i didnt have them

[tulip cloud]

what i can do?

[lofty jetty]

What deck should I use

Nvm I got it

[scarlet depot]

thanks so much

[quasi matrix]

I’m stuck here, any ideas? Or see something blatantly wrong I’m doing?

[tropic scarab]

I need help getting past this

[novel frigate]

Yes you should 100 percent be using daimon and shemira. Switch the hogan for your daimon and your saveas for shemira

[novel frigate]

Yes you should 100 percent be using daimon and shemira. Switch the hogan for your daimon and your saveas for shemira

[novel frigate]

I also suggest switching your Arden for either Rowan or talene

[quasi matrix]

@novel frigate ok, will try to see if any of those work. Thanks!

Worked. Thanks!

[twin hound]

Lol why does this work for every person on afkhelper but not me

[dull bay]

Levels or gear? Or artifacts

[modest zodiac]

I need help with this particular tower stage

[turbid minnow]

Any ideas for a lineup im stuck on 5-28?

[pale kettle]

@turbid minnow you should level up your daimon

[turbid minnow]

Oh ok, but what else should I use?

[reef vigil]

Id use mirael in position 3

[pale kettle]

Yeah

[reef vigil]

4*

Daimon in 1 or 2

[pale kettle]

I don't know who to use. I've been stuck on this stage for a while

[mortal sable]

any advice?

[pale kettle]

I would say use your ainz

Not your friends

[reef vigil]

Try sheimera 1 daimon 2 lyca 3 rowan 4 respen 5

[mortal sable]

thing is, I can either fuse him to Lucian or daimon and I kinda need them both I feel like

I do have my si for ainz tho

[pale kettle]

Ok thank you I'll try it right now👍

[reef vigil]

Im not too experienced in this so there's a good chance you'll lose

But that's what id use

[pale kettle]

Sadly it didn't work:( the Isabella is able to take out my entire team with her ultimate

[reef vigil]

Oh

Brutus can counter her

[pale kettle]

I'll try him

[reef vigil]

Looked it up

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle put that Brutus in the crystal, he's very needed

[pale kettle]

Is he that good?

[brave oriole]

For such stages like this one, to take deadly dmg on start

[pale kettle]

My highest Brutus is epic plus

[brave oriole]

Doesn't matter

Also stop making heroes legendary, keep everything elite +, until you decide who to ascend. They won't make any diff if they legendary tbh.

Wasting 2 fodders for each legendary.. It's a big deal

[pale kettle]

My crystal is full

[reef vigil]

Send a pic of it

[pale kettle]

My crystal?

[reef vigil]

Yes

[reef vigil]

Nvm you already removed

[brave oriole]

U can reset the timer for 100 diam

[pale kettle]

Ik but I have 4 diamonds

[brave oriole]

Lol, yeah, haha

[reef vigil]

I was gonna say reset someone for 20 but you're broke

[brave oriole]

Try
Shemira
Rosaline
Rowan
Anoki
Daimon

[pale kettle]

K

I lost

[brave oriole]

You have put wrong the heroes

Rosa anoki front, shem rowan daimon

[pale kettle]

Ok

[tulip cloud]

what i should do?

[brave oriole]

Try to charm ferael

If nem is slow, replace safiya with lyca

[pale kettle]

I still lost

[brave oriole]

Swap Rosa shem @pale kettle

[tulip cloud]

u see my heroes? i don't have lyca and nemora is l+
ferael in backline

[brave oriole]

That nem is l+, doesn't matter, she need to charm ferael so he hits his own team

Just restart if didn't charmed ferael at start

[gray rose]

Hello. are there any good packs for the last boss?

[tulip cloud]

ferael is not dealing that much dmg

[brave oriole]

Not about dealing dmg at all

@gray rose u mean ae boss? There's a channel for ae. Check out there pinned msgs

[pale kettle]

I just garrisoned ainz should I link him with my shemira?

[gray rose]

Ty

[soft sphinx]

am i just to low lvl for this or what because i keep losing really bad

[pale kettle]

Does your Alna have her immunity ability avaliable?

[west salmon]

Tried everything I could, what do I do here?

[pale kettle]

is this for prince bountiful trials?

[west salmon]

Yes

[pale kettle]

https://afk.guide/bountiful-trials-event/

[west salmon]

Ty

[pale kettle]

try that website, it has lineups for desira as well when her trial drops

[inland egret]

i need any f2p team 180lvl deficit

[pale kettle]

Any tips or advice would be appreciated, that silvina really messes up my oden strat that I normally use

[knotty tree]

every stage is easy but for this i have tried everything to get my thoran to ult , removed chest and head , removed crit resistance furniture

this is about what every clear i've seen uses

He doesn't get his initial ult off

[trim dew]

Should i do this ?

[zealous summit]

Yes

[trim dew]

Even if i lose shemira

[modest zodiac]

Any suggestions?

[broken talon]

hi

[maiden marsh]

hi

[broken talon]

do you know about misty we can't choose desire for a prize. Is it about it came today

[maiden marsh]

desira will be in next month's misty, as she was released after the start of this month's

[broken talon]

i could get kren 2x from misty

but i cant 2x desira so sad 😄 you can get peggy or other wilders 2x but not desira

[restive widget]

I need help with 2 lineups for chapter 31

[maiden marsh]

get daimon to 20 asap. for the two teams, you can run eironn and daimon, giving both supports as you see fit

[gray rune]

Think I should change something or keep trying for rng?

[minor whale]

What kind of team comp should I run demira in?

[tall wagon]

Who's worth building?

[high marlin]

Ferael main priority there

[shrewd pawn]

help.

[golden edge]

What's good raku wrizz team?

[ionic lava]

What should I do

[midnight cave]

Safiya
Talene
Nara
Anoki
Oden

This is one of the bountiful trials and I'm stuck on this 1 options are: Desira, Talene, Torne, Anoki, Skyriath, Respen, Kelthur, 1 armed guy with sword (can't remember his name), Safiya, and Tasi I checked afk.guide and their draft for it was aweful, I ran it anyways and it get cleaned faster than any of the drafts I had ran

nvm just got it with:
Safiya
Desira
Talene
Anoki
Respen

[ionic lava]

Probably wilder support

[valid bobcat]

Already beat it nvm

[ionic lava]

Lol ok

[plush shard]

Can someone please tell me what I’m doing wrong? Because I am clearly doing something wrong based on what I see on afkhelper.

[snow sphinx]

I'm not necessarily having trouble with this line up, I'm just trying to figure out what to upgrade bc Im almost at a point where I'm stuck

[ionic lava]

Use mezoth and kahazard

[snow sphinx]

Who would I take out?

[minor whale]

Stuck here on 16-40

[ionic lava]

Hi

[pale kettle]

can someone help me please?

[pseudo vine]

I don't think I have anything to counter this RNG heavy combo, I've run a bunch of different team comps 25-50 times, with little to no success. If a comp seemed to be plausible, I would run it for 5-10 min.

[pale kettle]

:c

[patent hemlock]

Can something work here only from these heroes?

[vivid trellis]

Would appreciate any help to pass this fight.

[pale kettle]

Any suggestions are appreciated!

Just as long as it doesn’t include both daimon and lucretia in the same formation. Since I need one of them for the second half.

[pale kettle]

Any advice on how my line up should be? I just started and really would appreciate any advice

[spice aspen]

Daimon/Rowan front Lyca top, eironn mid and tasi below.

[pale kettle]

Is Daimon better than Lucius?

[spice aspen]

Cp 32 and still using him as main carry

upgrade him as much as possible. He will carry your most of the game.

[pale kettle]

Thank you but I don't have daimon yet. He is a rented hero

[spice aspen]

ik

this is my main line-up

[sleek delta]

Help

[pale kettle]

Can I check why you put them behind?

I do not really uds how to position my heroes

[spice aspen]

In general you can't put tasi/rowan front now because they don't have the right skills to survive. Tasi can teleport and doge a lot of attacks/rowan can negate attacks with his ult charge so he can tank. Lyca is for speedboost /def debuff and if you have 9/9 furniture can do quiet a huge damage/ eironn in the middle so he can grab 3 people with his voxel and deimon back

the formation will change a lot based on your level is not 100% set in stone

you will change every hero position most of the time

[pale kettle]

So for now I still need my tank/fighter in front?

[spice aspen]

yes you might

lucios is good early game so you can use him

@sleek delta You need lyca in your case to match up the speed

Drop Brutus , move rowan front and add lyca mid

[pale kettle]

And my main carry till late game should be Eironn right? Lyca, Rowan and Task support?

[spice aspen]

Daimon

Daimon will be your main carry if you want it to be

Lyca/Rowan/Tasi/Eironn/Daimon are Meta-Hero

Meta-Hero are heros which are a need to progress in the game, in CP31 for example you are going to need 2 formations.

CP32 3 formations and so on

[pale kettle]

Thank you!

[sleek delta]

I'll try that

[sullen bone]

Stuck on this stage for more than a week any idea?
(Also would you A Eironn or Lyca?)

[spice aspen]

Madas A Eironn if you have enough copy now but you can also A Lyca she's very good

As for comp have front rowan/tasi and back have Lyca/Eironn in the mid and saurus on the back.

You need to grab that Mireal

[sullen bone]

I've got the copies of Eironn yeah, idk if I wanna go Eironn carry (playing saurus portal party or saurus eironn Daimon sometimes, I have not yet used Lyca on the regular

Thing is mid back gets interrupted by estrilda, so Eironn doesn't work here, maybe Nara would but I still don't have her..

[spice aspen]

if you have lyca it works, he will grab them before Estrilda runs in the back

But i might be wrong since you are not yet 240

[sullen bone]

Doesn't work, he gets interrupted by the aoe attack after her knockback and before her charge

[mortal sable]

any advice on what to do?

[brittle mason]

Thoughts

[sullen bone]

Try Lucius Lyca front and Daimon ferael tasi

[mortal sable]

No luck

[sullen bone]

Was it close?
Maybe replace ferael or Tasi by Eironn and put it in middle, see if he grabs mirael before being interrupted

[mortal sable]

Eironn works better but still can’t get a single kill, maybe I’m too weak?

[pale kettle]

Anyone?...

[drowsy gazelle]

Just check afkhelper

[sleek delta]

Help

[gleaming python]

I’m stuck, can anyone help me?

[minor whale]

Stuck on 16-40 any ideas?

[pale kettle]

Any tips for this? I die in 10 seconds lol

[half atlas]

replace brutus, u need to use wilders lol

[mortal sable]

halp pls

[foggy grove]

Can someone help with fifth comp? Thoran isn’t working for me

[vivid scaffold]

Tough stage here but end of chapter (29-60):

• Safiya is the biggest problem in terms of damage.
• Daimon tanks Athalia ok-ish
• Ezizh fucks the whole thing up as I can't ult with Tasi/Daimon

[strong badge]

Here was my statistics for that

Your Arthur would take my grezhuls place

[vivid scaffold]

Interesting @strong badge . Though your heroes are 30+ levels over mine

How much did you struggle?

[strong badge]

Quite a bit

It's an idea you can try

[strong badge]

(Mainly just finding out a good formation)

[vivid scaffold]

By the way I can take a Merc. If this could ever help

[vivid scaffold]

Interesting. Must have been tons of tries though. Do you remember?

[vivid scaffold]

@maiden marsh 2 tries...

Thank you so much. I've tried this level 200+ times

[maiden marsh]

Nerfs are nice lol

[vivid scaffold]

And you just figured it out within a few seconds for me

Love this community ♥️
Thanks again!

[vivid scaffold]

Where have you got this info from by the way?

[maiden marsh]

That was from the anniversary event, no longer available

[strong badge]

Woah

[gleaming python]

Anyone help please?

[summer cedar]

try rowan nara fera backline perhaps. alternatively rowan nemora fera, but there's a bit more rng in this one for slightly higher upside

[pale kettle]

Any good advice on how should I play my team? Like which one should I focus? New here and appreciate some advice. I'm stuck at 8-12

In stuck there and dont know what to line up against that i tried a lot but it doesn’t work Saveas Morvus and that horse lady bursting me down

[worthy oracle]

do i make shemire l+ even though she trash? im stuck in game, and itll be my first l+ outside of my 5 fodders. im not even 140 capped though

refrence for current hero situation

[pale kettle]

Idk i m pretty new but in my opinion i think you dont need a shemira

[gleaming python]

@worthy oracle Shemira is trash? Are you on drugs?

[worthy oracle]

everything ive been told, literally by everyone in this chat

[gleaming python]

What? Since when is Shemira trash?

[pale kettle]

Shemira is good early carry but drops off in late

Shemira is pretty bad, she drops off hard after chapter 20

[gleaming python]

Well yes but this man is still early game

[worthy oracle]

so is she worth l+ then food later down the road?

[gleaming python]

Hell yes

She carried me hard in the early chapters

[pale kettle]

I wouldn’t food a shemira that you already builded

if you have a Daimon and desperately need food to make him M or A then yes but otherwise no

[worthy oracle]

im stuck on 11-38 and i think she will help

[pale kettle]

Anyone able to help me out here

[worthy oracle]

i have a daimon, but need 2 more copies to l+

[pale kettle]

I m stuck on 11-36sheeesh

[gleaming python]

Early game Shemira is a beast. Unless they nerfed her since I was in the early chapters quite a long time ago.

[pale kettle]

she can still be used for dimensional links though so do whatever you feel would be best or ask in #classic-questions to get a better idea

[worthy oracle]

and yes, im on A drug 😉 ill go ahead and l+ her then thanks yall

[pale kettle]

I already asked in #classic-questions but those ppl doesn’t care about early game stuff

[worthy oracle]

truly seems that way

[pale kettle]

early game anyone works though, on my alt im using Lucius as a carry and its working lol

[worthy oracle]

well i can tell you a 130 lucius e+ sucks in the spot im in

[pale kettle]

you just have to be patient, theres a lot of ppl that ask in questions, im also a new player and they helped a ton

My problem is that i have no idea what line ups i need to use against certain lvls

[worthy oracle]

i can make shemire M right now, is that a bad idea?

[gleaming python]

I’d say it’s a great one

[pale kettle]

Getting a M Shemira is actually good

[worthy oracle]

feeding my first fodder l+ fun times!

[pale kettle]

it really should be avoided at all costs though

only make units M which you have enough copies to A except for Daimon and Rowan

[gleaming python]

Since when did people start hating on Shemira? I remember when I first started this game in like 2019 she was considered like the most OP carry.

[worthy oracle]

so how many more copies of her should i get before sending silvina l+ into her for M?

[pale kettle]

I dont hate her at all she is carrying me trough all the stages so far

shes dropped off pretty hard, now shes considered worse than fodder later on in chapters

[gleaming python]

@pale kettle yeah she is amazing early game

[pale kettle]

Yeah

[worthy oracle]

man i got excited, thought i was gonna have a M hero 😦

[gleaming python]

Damn. I mean I am on chapter 23 and while it is true that I mostly use Belinda now, Shemira still comes in handy sometimes.

[pale kettle]

shes okay at best if you have her fully invested but shes not worth investing in with all the other excellent GB there are

[maiden marsh]

No reason to

[pale kettle]

I mean for late game i think her kit is bad she got dmg but it’s not a burst like from Safiya or something like that

[gleaming python]

@worthy oracle I still think it’s worth it having her as your main carry early game. If I were you I would ascend her to Mythic for sure.

[delicate gyro]

Any help for this fight?
I'm out of solution right now ^^

[pale kettle]

@worthy oracle remember this game is a marathon and not a sprint, eventually you will get lots of M and A units

[gleaming python]

Ayo @maiden marsh can you help me with this?

[maiden marsh]

Shemira is a waste of resources in every aspect, she is trash early, mid, and lategame. Zero use in campaign compared to any competent alternative, and her one use in TR can be filled with a merc.

[worthy oracle]

3 people saying different things LOL.

[pale kettle]

follow Tru7hs advice, he knows best out of everyone else here

[gleaming python]

She is trash early? Since when? Did she got nerfed while I was on a break from this game or something? @maiden marsh

[delicate gyro]

Well all I can say is that she carry me to 20-20 pretty easily, but yup right now she seems not to be able to tank enough

[maiden marsh]

She's trash compared to other carry options, there's at least 1 hero in each faction who can carry as well as or better than her

[maiden marsh]

Merc available?

[gleaming python]

Well damn. As I said, a few years back everybody considered her OP. When did that change.

[maiden marsh]

When heroes like daimon were released

[gleaming python]

@maiden marsh oh shit I forgot about that lol. Yeah, I guess I’ll do that.

[pale kettle]

Still need help for this any advice? @maiden marsh

[maiden marsh]

Shemira into high burst teams without dodge gear is pretty doomed, I don't know how to approach that really.

[pale kettle]

why is everyone on this stage so annoying? Ferael keeps disrupting my team, Golus is too tanky, Grezhul proctects the Isabella and Silvina kills my backrow. Any tips? (I have an E Alna and an E+ Brutus, every other good unit is shown)

I guess i have to lvl units

[delicate gyro]

I would try to control Saveas with Nemora Shido

And make Shem face Est

[pale kettle]

Who’s nemora?

The sheep centaur lady and Est means Estrilda I believe

Ahh

[delicate gyro]

Don't forget about control heroes, it carries a lot through the game

Most of the time I need my crappy E+ Arden to win some fights

[pale kettle]

Doesn’t work i get bursted away tooo hard

Torne nearly gets 2shot same as nemora from morvus AoE

[summer cedar]

shemira is awful. you're also not level capped, so why would u want another L+ anyway?

[summer cedar]

read the pins in #classic-questions. has the answers to everything u asked.

[summer cedar]

shemira is terrible and not worth building except as a dim link. GB is so stacked a faction that you'd be holding yourself back by giving fodder to her. She also performs worse than mirael until lvl 161.

[summer cedar]

one of the worst ideas actually, but it sounds like it's too late.

[worthy oracle]

for it to be the worst idea, it already moved me 5 stages, strongly, and 2 floors in kings tower. im satisfied with my choice. im not pumping into sig item though.

[summer cedar]

different people have different levels of ethos. shem is 2019 meta and has been irrelevant for ages. should have had patience.

[summer cedar]

when that delays your daimon, fera, izold, grez, oden, silas, and thoran, you'll understand what Tru7h and I meant. is what it is.

[pale kettle]

Finally got past that stage

[worthy oracle]

by using 2 e+ fodders, and it beinng the only move i made, i dont think it will effect me that much tbh, im already pulling fodder like crazy

noot to mention, i just made 1 of them back. so im half way back to where i was prior, in 10 minutes.

[summer cedar]

it's all about opportunity cost and long term planning. Have patience. That was not an investment worth making, but you won't realize why till much later. Fodder slows down over time and there's at least 8 or 9 GB better than shem. I'm in 35 and still haven't finished 7 strongest GB yet.

[dreamy drum]

Please help im very stuck on this stage, my box is comming in 15

[maiden marsh]

Ainz out for tasi

[dreamy drum]

Is this optimal then?, i just keep retrying untill daimon ults a few times

[maiden marsh]

Try swapping tasi and lyca

[dreamy drum]

Yeah but then my girl tasi gets completely oneshot

[prime nova]

I would try something like Daimon, Rowan, Lyca, Brutus, Tasi

[maiden marsh]

Sounds like a recipe to make daimon explode

[dreamy drum]

Yeah he does not last 1 second sadly, my daimon isnt geared enough, maybe i just need more lvls or ascensions

[valid bobcat]

Maybe rowan brutus front 2 ainz tasi ferael? Not sure

[dreamy drum]

Problem is tasi banishes the pink haired chick for whatever reason

[prime nova]

Yeah, just realised those guys against your team are 253

[dreamy drum]

im being told that i should be able to get to enemy being 3x my power, or im bad or something

[valid bobcat]

Xd thats only if u have a really well put together comp i think

[dreamy drum]

also saw volkin being 700k power in chapter 24, although he does have luc ascended

[valid bobcat]

Tasi banishing raine isnt bad is ainz ulting?

[dreamy drum]

problem is ainz needs 2 ults or the 1:06 power

[valid bobcat]

Yea fuq i have a lot of ideas but it would just be rly time consuming for me to type them out and for u to try them all. The team i said should be prettu good ifu try it a couple of times. If not test around and see what works, see whos doing most dmg and use hero to counter

[dreamy drum]

appreciate the effort ill probably just merc it on monday

[wispy dock]

I’m having a hard time at this level. I was considering evolving Belinda or Gwyneth to legendary..Should I do it? And wich one is more ok for my comp?

[dreamy drum]

Have you tried out rosaline? if mireal ults twice you often win early on

[wispy dock]

Yeah, she dies too quick to do smth usefull

[patent hemlock]

Anyway I can pass this with just these heroes?

[valid bobcat]

Neither, no more legendaries 😡😡 have u read the pins in #classic-questions ?

[wispy dock]

Now I did xd

[valid bobcat]

Follow that =)

[summer cedar]

You'll need a nara or athalia, any ascension, to disrupt mehira. Beyond that looks winnable to me, altho will take many retries

[minor whale]

Stuck at 16-40 if anyone knows how I can beat this

[woven mason]

have you tried to put brutus in front of kaz and daymon behind him?

[minor whale]

Kaz?

[woven mason]

bottom frontline enemy hero

btw you need 20 SI on daymon

[minor whale]

I know I'm not there yet

[fluid coral]

Someone help? 🙂

[minor whale]

I still got demolished unfortunately, used this

[woven mason]

it s kinda useless that nara pulls nemora. anybody else would make more sense. Lyca has high burst damage and arden has annoying cc. I don t know how fight goes but I guess that lucius dies pretty quickly and that is not bcs nemora attacks him XD

I could keep saying a lot of combinations which you could try but I don t know how fight goes so it would be wasteful

[woven mason]

try to put all your levels in mirael or saveas and then level up everybody else. One of those 2 will be your carry from 100 to 160 level

[fluid coral]

should i restart wukong now?

[patent hemlock]

Can’t use those, I can only use ascended heroes now cause of the combat rating wall

[maiden marsh]

no way you're powercapped there with that level after nerfs

[woven mason]

yea, you ll probably need to reset everybody to max out levels on mirael and after that put levels in everybody else

[fluid coral]

soo should i pick mirael instead of saevas? 🙂

[woven mason]

try brutus and try nara pull mirael. Btw I hope you know that you would have M daymon if you didn t ascend thoran and nara...

[woven mason]

I used mirael and others used saves. I don t know what to tell you

[fluid coral]

okay thanks

[warped apex]

Nope didn't work

[vivid trellis]

Any suggestions to improve team / finish the fight?

[warped apex]

Also wanted to ascend thoran and nara cos I didn't have any daimons at the time to upgrade him, plus I wanted the level cap to be raised for my guys to unlock better abilities

[vivid trellis]

So close to finishing the chapter and trying my hand at the elusive fourth rowan but for the life of me I can't think of a winning team

[woven mason]

I think you could use 2 cc instead 2 heals

[vivid trellis]

Whatever I use essentially instantly dies. I tried swapping rowan and Silas for Pippa tasi

[woven mason]

sometimes it s better to wait a bit and ascend rare heroes until 160 level but that doesn t matter now. what team did you use with brutus?

[warped apex]

nara daimon silas brutus rowan

i tried lucius in the backline every slot to see if i could get his ult off but nah he died instantly

[woven mason]

have you tried arden?

[vivid trellis]

Something like this?

[woven mason]

try thoran and brutus in frontline and nara and rowan in backline

[woven mason]

try rowan instead pippa and then pippa instead lyca

[warped apex]

nara still on that mirael?

[woven mason]

mirael and sniper are more or less same damage. It depends a lot how fight goes so you can try both

[warped apex]

nah everyones still getting oneshot, backline in the bottom 3 always die in first 5 seconds no matter who it is due to that guys ability.

[woven mason]

rowan can t get oneshot so put him there

[warped apex]

i usually do still manages lol

[vivid trellis]

Feels worse almost because daimon gets squishier. My main issue from what I can tell is daimon is failing to get any kills. With the nemora healing it off if I cant kill a few before I lose the daimon shield he drops @woven mason

[warped apex]

nvm i just won jesus christ i tried that comp like 3 times before 😩 thanks

[woven mason]

have you tried afk helper?

[patent hemlock]

Lol I can literally only use those heroes, anything else gives me the combat rating message sadly.

[maiden marsh]

have you checked in the last few days?

[woven mason]

they removed it like yesterday XD

[patent hemlock]

You sir, are correct.

[maiden marsh]

not removed but it's silly low now

[patent hemlock]

My apologies lmao, gonna try now with different heroes. Thanks guys lol

What can I use in that stage?

[turbid minnow]

Should I replace kren for rowan if not any other changes I should make?

[sly talon]

Thane is just shredding my whole team, anything I can do?

[maiden marsh]

Here's a pretty cursed clear you can copy

[patent hemlock]

I’ll try it now, gonna ask a question in the questions tab quick

[vivid trellis]

I'll try it. Beyond that I think my only hope is to get my other 4 heroes to 161+ and I neither have the fodder nor can decide on which.

[turbid minnow]

?

[woven mason]

well people with daymon got even to 25ch with 200 daymon level so I m sure that you ll find something that you could do now. And btw you have shitton of fodder so you could at least M+ somebody even if it s not optimal XD

[sly talon]

I'm stuck on this stage, would anybody help? Ping me or reply please.

[woven mason]

why not pushing isabella to 161?

[pale kettle]

why not having dust?

[pseudo vine]

Is there anything I can do to minimize the rng in 29-60??

[alpine ocean]

I need building my team but I can't send a ss- it won't let me.
So DM me.

[woven mason]

I saw that you put lucius above 141 so I don t know how much dust are you missing

[pale kettle]

oh i did that bcs isabella needs to stay alive more and without lucius's shield she wont survive.i did that before i reached her 160,i should probably go and reset lucius and do what u said

[woven mason]

why you don t put any carry in that team?

[pseudo vine]

I have tried a bunch of different comps, nothing has worked. Athalia ults and destroys my team or my team gets hard cc’d

[woven mason]

try peggy in front of lucius, and rosaline as second front line. You can also try with tasi as support

[woven mason]

you tried brutus and alna?

[pseudo vine]

I can put Alna in crystal and try tomorrow

[woven mason]

well it won t be much different then brutus

[pale kettle]

didnt work,sadly

[woven mason]

what did you try?

[pale kettle]

both

[woven mason]

have you tried afk helper?

[woven mason]

hopw fast peggy dies?

[pale kettle]

like 3 seconds

[woven mason]

then it s not really worth having her in team

[pseudo vine]

Finally got rng on my side

[pale kettle]

nvm i just did it cuz peggy didnt get one shot pog
thanks for.help man

[woven mason]

I don t think you needed merc in that one but I m glad you won

[pale kettle]

got stuck again:c

[sly talon]

@woven mason Help me please!!!!

[pale kettle]

any help? i'm stuck

[delicate gyro]

Any idea here to help me pass 20-58?

[woven mason]

did you check afk helper? people usually use daymon there so you could find something. Except that I d suggest you build ainz SI and get albedo and arthur.

[sly talon]

...
That Ainz is a garrison that I did on accident.

[woven mason]

Only thing I can tell you is that nemora is not really good anymore and that rowan would be better. Since he s only L I don t know how much better but at least you get instant health

[woven mason]

ainz is the best carry in the game if you can build team for him. 2 tanks, rowan and cc support

[sly talon]

Really? Somebody told me Thoran is.

[delicate gyro]

I noticed that, damned I often prefer my E+ Arden , but I'm trying to keep faction bonus also. Gonna try

[pale kettle]

should i buy someone or save for prince or persia

[sly talon]

Save it. After the dimensional exchange is over, get Arthur stones.

[woven mason]

faction bonus is less important then it was before

[woven mason]

that is long discussion bcs he works only by cheesing while everybody else needs to work for win XD

[delicate gyro]

I got it done with Lyca Shem Arden Rowan Tasi, thanks mate

[pale kettle]

Help please

[delicate gyro]

And chap 20 is done!

[pale kettle]

Lucky

[woven mason]

why is your ainz connected to L+ hero if you can connect it to shem?

[sly talon]

They most likely want to use Shemira to carry, because Ainz is pretty useless without +30.

[woven mason]

and stop ascending your heroes to L without having copies for L+

[woven mason]

dude you re drunk or you have no clue what are you talking about

[vivid trellis]

speaking of hellrabbit do you think a yolo ainz garrison linked to daimon could clear that fight i was struggling on

[maiden marsh]

Ainz +0 >>>>>>>> shemira

[pale kettle]

Because I want to be able to use shem too

[sly talon]

SEEE. I guessed it right, that's what I would've did too. Probably because us new players are dumb. No offense.

[maiden marsh]

Just bind shem to ainz, unlock ainz's signature item, and use ainz

[pale kettle]

I'm 10 short of getting his signature item

[pale kettle]

Ik I've been told that and I stopped doing it

[woven mason]

@pale kettle Ainz is a lot better then shem and you shuoldn t think twice about connecting them. In future you might connect ainz to somebody else if you really want to use shem so much but ainz should never be lower level then she is

[pale kettle]

Ok

[sly talon]

Does Ainz work at all without SI unlocked? I've tried it and he just dies because the chanting phase is so long.

[woven mason]

he doesn t, if you need chanting you probably lose the fight

[sly talon]

But without his SI unlocked, he has to chant, so he will just die.

[woven mason]

maybe, I don t know. Ainz works the best if you have arthur and albedo with it. Daymon is usually better carry then ainz and needs less investment but you re missing supports for him and that s why you have problems

[woven mason]

yea, that s why you need M ainz

[sly talon]

I have a A Ainz, with SI unlocked, but he is still dying. 😂

[woven mason]

ah sry, I can t follow anymore who has what and which problems they have... you re missing real tanks to protect ainz. As I said, arthur and albedo are the best choice for that. If your frontline dies then ainz doesn t have much chance to win

I used to use A skreg and thoran to protect ainz but it will never be optimal

[sly talon]

I use Brutus and Daimon.

[woven mason]

daymon is not tank and brutus works for 8-10 s

[sly talon]

At least Daimon lasts longer than Lucius.

[woven mason]

true, lucius is even shittier tank then daymon

[pale kettle]

i got stuck what should i do

[unkempt field]

Put brutus frontline.

[woven mason]

use brutus as frontline instead daymon

[pale kettle]

k

[woven mason]

and probably use dastan instead eirron

[pale kettle]

like that

[woven mason]

y, I d also use dastan and morael instead daymon and eirron but I really don t know how will that work at your level

[pale kettle]

i dont have non of those

[woven mason]

I see them on picture...

[pale kettle]

sorry its that i am new to the game so i dont know the names

[sly talon]

Who is Dastan.

[woven mason]

new dim hero

[sly talon]

... His name is Prince of Persia...

[woven mason]

dastan is shorter

[unkempt field]

Dastan is pop name in the movie I think

[twin hound]

Anybody beat 35-44 recently?

[pale kettle]

can ayone help me?

[woven mason]

ainz would help you a lot

[pale kettle]

i don't have it. mercs are still closed for like 4 days.

[woven mason]

garison?

[pale kettle]

no stones. exchange would take all resources and still wont be enough 😦

[minor whale]

Still stuck here on 16-40, any clue how I can beat it?

[brave oriole]

@minor whale try swapping nara daimon

[spring robin]

brutus lyca
prince of persia rowan daimon
could work

[minor whale]

I beat it but thanks

[ocean hamlet]

thats cap LOOOOOOOOOOOL

[ionic lava]

What would be my best Ainz team

[sly talon]

Is Ainz that good.. Why is mine so uselsss.

[pale kettle]

Any ideas?

[pale kettle]

He needs his 9/9 and a strong frontline.

[woven mason]

he just needs strong frontline for start

[sly talon]

I only have a Garrison, so I’m not investing in him.

[smoky anvil]

Any ideas for this one?

[ocean hamlet]

use AINZ!

[smoky anvil]

I havent invested in mine at all :/

[ocean hamlet]

you can still use him

[smoky anvil]

he dies instantly

[delicate gyro]

Any idea to go through this zone? I used to roll all over the first 40 lvl ^^

[ocean hamlet]

uhm replace nemora?

[wintry robin]

This is for a t8 tile, what team should I use

[delicate gyro]

This is what I have, any idea?

[gaunt sonnet]

No idea what I’m doing, help

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/d2e2693b467b68f4e7d7db019c4807c9

[quasi matrix]

Tend to die pretty fast. Help?

[sly talon]

Rowan should be middle-back, because otherwise, Shemira and Daimon won't get the health potions. You might want Lyca behind Daimon and Shemira behind Brutus, OR Saveas/Arden behind Brutus, Saveas for solid damage, and Arden for some CC.

[quasi matrix]

Ok thanks! Will see if any combo gets me closer.

It worked. One day I’ll figure this game out.

[sly talon]

1. You are extremely lucky to have a Talene, utilize her.
2. Stop making Legendary heroes if you can't make them Legendary+
3. Start building Daimon, yours' is a trial, but you need to build him.
4. You also might want a Rowan, his heals are extremely helpful, but you can use Numisu for now.
5. If extremely needed, there are some Ascended tier heroes that you can use as food. Examples: Ulmus, Rigby, Baden, and Kelthur. ALWAYS ASK IN #classic-questions WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD USE A TIER HEROES AS FODDER AND EXPLAIN YOUR SITUATION

@quasi matrix You'll figure it out, I've been playing for almost 3 weeks, and I just got the hang of it. When I first started, I was in the same noob state as you are right now. Not to be offensive or anything.

[dusk portal]

hello help pls

stuck at 11-16 and idk how to improve my team

[sly talon]

Can you show 11-16?

[dusk portal]

@sly talon

[sly talon]

1. You have 0 CC, so you might want to use Tasi.
2. Don't put Prince of Persia front row, he won't survive. Put Daimon in front of Golus, and Saurus in front of Ogi. Also, put Gwyneth behind Saurus, so your team may look like:
   Gwyneth
   Saurus
   Prince of Persia
   Daimon
   Tasi
3. If #2 doesn't work, you can try Safiya, and that pyramid may or may not help.
4. You want to start building a healer like Rowan, it'll help a lot, you won't get too far without any heals, and your Silas is low ascension, so his heal won't do much.
5. MOST IMPORTANT Saurus shouldn't be your carry, Daimon should, so reset Saurus and level Daimon as much as you can.

[dusk portal]

Alright much appreciated! ;p

[sly talon]

@dusk portal Did it work?

[dusk portal]

Lemme try it rq, was in the bathroom

[dusk portal]

Did much better than my old loadout but didn't win ;p I'll continue leveling my team and hopefully beat it soon

[sly talon]

@dusk portal Do the battle again and show me battle stats.

[sly talon]

@dusk portal Take out Saurus and use Safiya.
The pyramid is more useful than like no damage.

[dusk portal]

Alright.

[dusk portal]

Ok so uh, she doesnt live long enough to bring out the pyramid LOL

[sly talon]

LOL.

@dusk portal Just keep leveling Daimon.

[dusk portal]

👍

[sly talon]

@dusk portal Look at his damage.

But Gwyneth OP too, so yeah.

[dusk portal]

LOL daimon is op

AAA i tried putting desira on

LETS GOOO

[sly talon]

Congrats!!!

[near jolt]

hey, trying to get through chapter 10

I'm trying to get enough copies of fodder heroes to put into resonating crystal

and 160 them

[sly talon]

@near jolt Switch Mirael with Rosaline and try again.

[agile belfry]

(laughing at how similar my problems are with guy above me and he’s a whole chapter ahead)

stuck on 9-38. got here with daimon thoran rowan ferael and then fill (sylas, lucias etc). now i’m HARD stuck everywhere. looking for maybe a comp hidden in here that i dont know about? lol i’m so new, apologies in advance.

[near jolt]

that's my usual setup she dies to the bat guy

[sly talon]

@near jolt Then put Rowan in the middle.

[agile belfry]

yeah the bat guy is absolutely slaughtering me too as soon as he ults

[sly talon]

Damn. Good luck on future chapters, more annoying heroes will start appearing.

@agile belfry Show the stage.

[agile belfry]

k one sec

[sly talon]

Use Hogan instead of Lucius, Lucius is already trash, elite Lucius is even more trash.
Or you can try Alna, doubt it'll work.

You have limited heroes, so I honestly don't really know how to help, try those two. But I gotta go, good luck!

[agile belfry]

thanks! i'll give it a go

yeah i wish i just had a better understanding of where my strengths lie with my hero pool

ive read a lot online that early celestials are good but i cant seem to make them work well. the biggest addition so far that has moved me along has been the borrowed daimon

[vapid field]

The pins in questions has a good set of guides for early game
Was a huge help for me, personally.

[agile belfry]

tree3's guide is where i started, but i'll take a look at the graphic that's in there too

do you think a hogan and a thoran is overkill? should i drop thoran being the hogan is L?

[exotic dew]

Pls help
Can I even do this stage

[pure knoll]

Anybody got a good lineup for today's Dismal Maze?

[vapid garden]

How can I make my team even stronger that it'll may pass 20m dmg? My highest is 10m

[pure knoll]

Autoattack heroes that get stronger from ult, not heroes that cast big ults for damage. Check the debuff

[solid remnant]

+1 Brutus purple. I currently run lucius Brutus raine eeronn and rosalina what do you think I should aim for / change . Am new

[woven mason]

first question, have you used ascended heroes as fodder?

[exotic dew]

Pls help

[pale kettle]

Too many fodders wasted on leg heroes

[woven mason]

I think he foddered all of his A heroes to ascend that lucius and other L heroes. If that s the case, he should reset his acc

[pale kettle]

Yeah, if it was Daimon he could've pulled somehow but Lucius...

[woven mason]

mirael and saves should be your carry until 160 level. grez and rosaline aren t good carries

[woven mason]

maybe if we re talking about lucretia. Daymon is good bit he s not a god. He can t work without supp

[pale kettle]

I guess Rosa could support until some level

[covert nimbus]

Hey guys, who do you think I should focus more on between Thoran and Desira ?

[solid remnant]

I

Only sacrificed Belindas to ascend lucius, she wasn’t doing too well for me and I had plenty

What do you mean by leg hero’s?

Ah I get it I only used stuff on that ogli because I thought it would help rank up eironn but it doesn’t

Only hero’s I sacrificed that is decent is Belinda for mythic, do I still need to reseet?

[high marlin]

Legendary heros are ones with 3 skills. Ascended heros have 4

[solid remnant]

Yeah I get it now I only sacrifice leg hero’s and Belinda

[high marlin]

Have you read the pinned guides in the questions channel btw? Also no need to reset

[pale kettle]

Thoran

[woven mason]

I don t understand how you have so small number on E+ but you already have M+ hero and a lot of L heroes. You would have to spend a lot of fodder heroes

[spark gazelle]

Why does team 2 deal like twice the damage of team 1? Also what can i do here to maximize my damage numbers that isnt just getting my heroes built up with sig 30 9/9 furn such?

[pale kettle]

You can try with higher ascension🧐

[spark gazelle]

thats the answer i was NOT asking for

[high marlin]

What's the debuff on the boss

[spark gazelle]

80% damage reduction on everything except normal attacks

like id assume a big portion of the damage is the Wu Kong but hows the damage deficit that big

[high marlin]

Belive you can check after the fight

[woven mason]

usually all damage comes from 1 or 2 heroes

[smoky beacon]

team just gets sweeped almost immediately, tried a bunch of combos, have enough dust to level someone to 220 but not sure who

[woven mason]

you should focus on getting ainz and fareal should be your next priority for ascending. He works at M with 20 SI

you could try to boost haste on tasi with call and lyca so your shem doesn t get banished but I m not sure that will work. Also I would place brutus in front of kaz to prevent her from dodging

[hybrid nacelle]

Any idea for this?

[mortal sable]

anyone know what to do?

[woven mason]

shem is carry so she should be 180 level, not rosaline

[woven mason]

try to put nara in bottom backline

[woven mason]

didn t you have rowan?

[pale kettle]

Should I just invest in Thoran Cheese comp? If I should, how far would this comp take me before I want to switch the comp?

Yea I know I messed up with nara but..

[hybrid nacelle]

I had Rosa up to 180 weeks before I had Shem even at 160. I only got the others up recently.

Didn't have the heroes for it before

[valid bobcat]

jeez thats an interesting lineup. Team building is hella interesting but soon ur gonna run into problems if u keep buildi ng ur acc like that. Have u read the pins in #classic-questions ?

[pale kettle]

yea but i had bad roll i guess

[valid bobcat]

but u evolved so many heroes to l :o

[pale kettle]

well i should've level shemira first i guess..

hmm any reason not to though? since i can points for the tree thingy

[valid bobcat]

no, i dont think any of the guides say that at all

[valid bobcat]

yea, check to see if u can evolve them further, and u'll see that u cant. Now that u've ascended them u wont be able to ascend them further cuz ur gonna need more copies of the hero itself. Then ur gonna be capped at a certain level. the pins should explain all of this

[pale kettle]

ohhh i see now

smh but i guess i'll have to work with what i have

[valid bobcat]

:(, honestly the account is a little doomed. If u wanna progress further id reccomend starting a new acc on a new server and do plenty of research. Read properly thru the pins and blah blah ask or google what u dont know. unless ur playing for fun then play the game however u want :)

[pale kettle]

any remedies doe

should i save copies to ascend one hero?

[near pond]

Need help to get past this chapter.

[astral pike]

Hey guys, I want to pass this last part of 34-4 without exiting.. any advice please??

[valid bobcat]

i think all ur answers should be in the pinned, save for 5, 2 from faction scrolling faction and 1 per each faction

[astral pike]

^^^

[mild maple]

What can i change to finish this stage? i can't complete

[vivid scaffold]

I would remove Shemira for Arden or Lyca, and keep on trying

It might pass with RNG @mild maple

[mild maple]

This the other team i tried

[vivid scaffold]

Daimon shall be better imo

[slate elbow]

Who’s the best helper for this stage I can go ask my friend for theirs like best hero for this stage

[strong badge]

Can daimon be front with brutus while ainz goes top backline

Also drop thoran for desira

Call on daimon and ainz

Or this

If you do use this switch thoran and brutus

[vivid scaffold]

If Daimon tanks enough, yes. I do that often.

[covert nimbus]

Thanks 👍

[feral hare]

What would be a good lineup for the stage?

[sudden moss]

Ch 28, any good lineups with this

[smoky anvil]

Can anyone help me out on this one?

[sudden moss]

try swapping nara with lyca, and switching thoran and brutus. mby

[mild maple]

Any other Idea? i fail every try and don't know how the heck did somebody finish this with a lvl 100 team

[vivid scaffold]

Swap heroes around, see if it works better

[minor whale]

Do I have a viable team using Saurus?

[maiden marsh]

For campaign? No. Not that there's any reason to, since you have mythic daimon.

[minor whale]

Right, I've been getting stuck so would you know what team I should run? Just got into CH 18

[maiden marsh]

Daimon prince brutus lyca tasi, prince and brutus frontline and you should be good

[minor whale]

Does order for backline matter a whole lot? Daimon middle?

[maiden marsh]

Wherever he doesn't die

[minor whale]

Sounds good, thanks

[minor whale]

Actually real quick, do you know anything about teams for PVP or Twisted realm type events? I hate to bug you but ive been struggling with those as well, I know saurus and grez go together for boss events but not sure about the rest of the team

[maiden marsh]

For pvp you just spam what you have, it doesn't matter an excessive amount as long as you do your battles.

For twisted realm, copy the lineups at the top of your leaderboards.

[minor whale]

Okay thanks

[sturdy fractal]

Any idea what kind of teamcomp might beat this team? The healing and all is super annoying

[pale kettle]

Quick burst so best for it would be Ainz

[sturdy fractal]

Ainz team is already used for the strongest team in the 1st battle

[rigid glacier]

Any tips to help me pass this stage

[maiden marsh]

Got thoran?

[sturdy fractal]

I thought I did, but looking apparently I do not

[pale kettle]

Maybe Gwyneth comp

[rigid glacier]

I’ve been stuck for a few days

[pale kettle]

With Ferael

[sturdy fractal]

Using Farael for a Daimon comp vs the second team, don't think I can take him out of there

[rigid glacier]

My lightbarers don’t help because I don’t have gear for them

[pale kettle]

Joker and Queen won't you do any justice at this

[sturdy fractal]

Joker is what's carrying me so far, anything else I have get's oneshot, I tried using Izold but he can't get going with the heroes I have left, Joker+Queen is hte closest I've gotten so far. Maybe I just can't clear this yet. It just sucks because I'm so close xd

[rigid glacier]

Use an anti heal if you have one

[pale kettle]

5 pull?

[maiden marsh]

5 pulling rosa is

[rigid glacier]

Like stratana

[smoky anvil]

Any idea on how to clear this one?

[pale kettle]

Hook Arden

And Rowan instead Thoran, maybe

[sturdy fractal]

what counts as anti-heal?

[rigid glacier]

Talene might do you some good

[pale kettle]

Thorne and Satrana 😂 But just don't

[rigid glacier]

Stratana is a good one

[maiden marsh]

Ferael and silas are the most prominent anti heals that are also actually good heroes

[pale kettle]

You can try Gwyneth Joker comp

Since she has burn it might be useful

[smoky anvil]

this got me a bit closer, might get it in some tries, thanks

[pale kettle]

Np ❤

[smoky anvil]

I'm pretty sure this would be extremely easy with M rowan, ugh

[pale kettle]

Yesh
He is must have

[rigid glacier]

Any tips to help me

[smoky anvil]

did it with brutus talene daimon nara lyca, thanksss

[pale kettle]

Stop making heroes to legendary if you can't take then above

[rigid glacier]

I know that

I’m not doing it anymore

[pale kettle]

I guess Isabella and Saveas are destroying you?

[rigid glacier]

Yep

[pale kettle]

Nara?

[strong badge]

Or eironn

[rigid glacier]

I tried giving duras grace artifact to my team members but it doesn’t help

[smoky anvil]

arden as well but u gotta be lucky with him

[rigid glacier]

?

[strong badge]

Do you have nara

[pale kettle]

Pull Isabella with Nara if you have her

[sturdy fractal]

Daimon comp could take the 3rd team down, but then I'm left with this, any ideas?

[rigid glacier]

This second pic is my box

[pale kettle]

Try Gwyneth Joker lol
It wont kill you

And she can prock his attack right at the start

[sturdy fractal]

I know, problem is that's all that happens and then she gets oneshot

[rigid glacier]

Upgrade her gear if it’s not fully upgraded

What heroes would help my case

Faceplam

[smoky anvil]

Back with another one

[rigid glacier]

My heroes are

[rigid glacier]

Who would be the best team for this

[feral hare]

Take levels off task and onto hogan

Also stop making legendary, make L+ from fodders instead

[rigid glacier]

I know

I don’t do that anymore

[pale kettle]

is a lineup just who i play w/?

[feral hare]

Lineup is who is in battle

[rigid glacier]

I already have my tank Ogi

[pale kettle]

ima need help lol

[feral hare]

No I mean do it to raise level cap in pentagram

[rigid glacier]

The crystal

[feral hare]

I meant take levels off tasi and give to hogan

[pale kettle]

this is all i have rn

[smoky anvil]

you should read the guide that's pinned in #classic-questions

[feral hare]

Build blue guys to their max color

[pale kettle]

so do i just ascend to elite n legendary??

[feral hare]

Depends

[pale kettle]

considering i can barely summon, that’d be pretty difficult for me

[feral hare]

Just build up your stores of the rare heroes, get them to L+ level, try to get at least 5 before you start ascending any of the purple base heroes

[smoky anvil]

only lvl 5 heroes, reset the others in the rickety cart, put as many levels as you can onto wukong until he's lvl100, once you have 5 heroes at lvl100 reset wukong and use mirael as ur carry

[pale kettle]

i heard wukong was rly good

i got him somehow, not a summon tho lol

[feral hare]

You’ll want to pick out 5 heroes from this section, get them to L+, put them on resonating crystal and level them until they get to their max level of 160

[pale kettle]

i rock elite+ mirael, and her ult is rly good for me

[feral hare]

Ok, to get mirael to L+ you will need at least one more E+ mirael and two other E+ lightbearers

[pale kettle]

welp, time to nolife lol

[feral hare]

You’ll get the stuff within a week, it seems worse than it is

[light needle]

Would anyone mind if they check my lineup and give thoughts?

[feral hare]

Could give it a shot

[light needle]

There are you go. Im new here. My lineup is the fist line

With Nemora instead of Mirael

Anyone bad or should be down? I’m up for suggestions

[feral hare]

Ok so as I said with Brendan, get 5 fodders to L+ should be the first priority

Wukong is generally good till about lvl 120

[light needle]

What’s Fodder and L+?

[feral hare]

So see the colors

[strong badge]

Heroes that only go to legendary plus

[light needle]

Oh I see

[feral hare]

Purple is epic, yellow is legendary, two others beyond

Fodders start as rare and go as far as legendary plus

[light needle]

Noted

Anyone I should abandon or replace with my current lineup in your opinion?

[strong badge]

I'd say abandon estrillda/thane for daimon

[feral hare]

Seems fine for what it is, daimon better in general but it’s early so doesent matter too much

[light needle]

Hmmm. Sounds like I’ll use Daimon if both of you agree upon her

[feral hare]

If you go into the pins of #classic-questions there should be a blue background post marked beginners guide

If you have any questions feel free to ask either there or here

[light needle]

Sounds good. Thanks for the help. also one more question that may be off of lineups

[feral hare]

Shoot

[light needle]

So I have an old account in server 607 I believe but abandoned. It’s power is 170K approximately. Should I go back to it or stay on my new one? It’s stronger but a lot of time has passed

[feral hare]

You’re 196k now...

[light needle]

I mean the lineup

[feral hare]

Either way it’s relatively early, depends on what server you like more I guess

[light needle]

It’s stronger than this one

I have a legendary in that account

[feral hare]

Ok?

[light needle]

Nvm I was thinking of something else lol

[feral hare]

I’m sorry if I seem indifferent, that just doesn’t seem too important to me looking at your stage in the game

[light needle]

No worries

[strong badge]

You don't need 3 tanks

[feral hare]

Just stay at the account you have, it’ll be fine

Now then

[light needle]

The newer one?

[feral hare]

Troubleshooting advice time, the bottom dies before the top and I don’t know if I should swap out Rowan or Lucius or both here

[light needle]

I appreciate your advice. Gtg now

[feral hare]

Np

[smoky anvil]

maybe lucius > lyca

[strong badge]

iirc grez can steal stats so don't place damage heroes against him

[feral hare]

Problem with that is that daimon seems to die faster against scythe man

[strong badge]

Place a brutus against him

[feral hare]

Instead of Lucius?

[strong badge]

Does he do anything?

[feral hare]

Good point

[strong badge]

Also does belinda do anything?

[feral hare]

Looks like it

Hrm

Hit a winner

[pale kettle]

What should i do

[feral hare]

Use daimon instead of mirael

[pale kettle]

k

[frigid linden]

anyone see how I can beat this stage?

[pale kettle]

you coul try thoran instead of izold on the front line, switch athalia and silas and then drop athalia for nara

[golden blaze]

Why is tasi and Lyca leveled?

You only need 5 leveled, the rest on crystal

[frigid linden]

I F’d up early

[golden blaze]

You can reset them though

[frigid linden]

Should I reset them and lv up others

[golden blaze]

For that stage I’d take athalia off for eironn and put tasi in for Silas

Whichever one tasi banishes, put eironn on the opposite side to get rid of Isabella or mirael

[frigid linden]

alright I’ll try that thanks

[true kayak]

any better line ups for me? im using Shemira Satrana Lucius Daimon and Desira rn. Lucius and Satrana at the front others at the back

[pale kettle]

jesus fucking christ

you’re good

[golden blaze]

Wdym

[pale kettle]

u have an ascended

[golden blaze]

Need food for tasi to hit ascended 1 star 🤔

[pale kettle]

jesus

[golden blaze]

Then 1 more daimon

Haven’t been lucky with izold in a while

[pale kettle]

No need to chase stars

[golden blaze]

Just happened to keep pulling tasi 😔

[pale kettle]

Me with Daimon and Grez:

[golden blaze]

My Lyca wasn’t even mythic before I had 6 copies

Game just gives me one hero at a time ig

[vivid scaffold]

Tasi is super good

[golden blaze]

Was gonna go for eironn but since daimon should hit ascended soon, went tasi

[vivid scaffold]

Tasi is imo a better prio than Eironn anyway

[pale kettle]

Depends

Eironn is above Tasi in tier list since she has no usage in bosses

[maiden marsh]

oh you're using that tier list

[pale kettle]

Tasi is only better than Eironn when she is enemy in campaign

[maiden marsh]

nah tasi is better than eironn in general, though both are very good

[pale kettle]

can i get some help please?im trying to complete ch13

Try Lucius front and Tasi instead Rosaline? I guess Also if you have Nara pull Isabella

didnt work,lucius dies too early and doesnt make his ult

this is pretty standard thoran cheese right? taint goes on isa

[pale kettle]

You have Nara?

[delicate gyro]

Hey guys, I truly need your help here, I tried all the youtube video but can't find a working team to go through 21-60

[pale kettle]

no,unfortunately

idk upgrade

[maiden marsh]

Cannot cheese that

[pale kettle]

Shemira won't do anything here, sadly, because you need quick burst

im stupid

[pale kettle]

is it because of rowan or what?

[delicate gyro]

Yup, she barely can ult once

[maiden marsh]

Rowan middle back can't be linked and won't be damaged by retribution

[pale kettle]

even with the eironn pull?

[maiden marsh]

If he can't be linked thoran can't do shit against him.

[pale kettle]

damn sadge, looks like i'm thoran cheesing r3 since r2 has ezizh

[delicate gyro]

So what's your advice? She's my only carry right now, I don't who to use instead

[maiden marsh]

Merc an ainz or something

[pale kettle]

used merc already

[minor whale]

I'm not struggling but should I replace Brutus with thoran?