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I will have a look! 🙂
My real problem was to focus on Shemira and now it's affecting my progression... I don't have Eironn, Daimon or Ainz to push campaign.... I'm really tempted to use my scrolls...
Who should I use in my lineup minus the 2 trial hero’s
Any ideas
Screenshot (May 7, 2021 11:38:51 AM)
any advice on making 2 viable teams for the dismal lab bosses
Stuck
Can I get some help with this stage please?
I usually put Prince in the back line, and you should change out the deer girl with someone else.@minor whale
Any suggestions
Try to get a decent frontline Wilder.
Lucius infront of grezhul
Daimon front destan back
Or remove destan/lyca for eironn and let him pull Isabella
Thanks, got past it but stuck here now
Switch eironn and daimon
Worked like a charm
Sorry, I keep making progress and getting stuck again. Any tips for this stage?
Daimon front
Replace talene for lyca
Can I beat this stage?
Possibly, try lucius and daimon front, lyca, rowan and eiron back
Also, stuck again, last time ill ask for help tonight but im really trying to beat chapter 14
Try to have eironn grab isabella
And drop prince for lyca
Got demolished
@minor whale also try lucius backline if he dies before he can ult
Who performs the best?
Daimon does most damage and rowan survived the longest
Ofc frontline Rowan and thoran, and can eironn kill isabella?
I tried but he died ill try this^
If eironn can't kill isabella use lyca for her haste.
Ok
I think im just underleveled, can't beat it no matter who I try or where they are
use nara to grab isabella, move daimon opposite to shem and youre good to go
I'll try this
I got demolished using this, or did I misunderstand?
daimon shouldnt be frontline, put him behind lucius and prince in front
also put call on him if you have it
anyway I can do this?
id say no, double flora is always a big no, plus the 2 talenes makes it even more impossible
come back to it once your relics is 5.2 or something lol
Stop making legendaries
Okay noted but any line up tips
Shem
Lucious
Lucretia
Baden
Belinda
👏🏽🐐🐐🐐
It worked?
Np
can someone DM me some advice on how to build these heroes into 2 decent teams (or what heroes to work on from my lego, mythics) to get 2 solid teams from this set
@fervent rain I can try make you 2 teams, 1 is my main team and second is kinda more random, so not saying it will work for sure, + why u got m+
But try
Lyca
Lucius
Rosa
Rowan
Ainz
And second
Belinda
Arthur
Ferael
Darius/dimensional you got(idk how good they are)
Tasi/nemora/silas
Uhh
And I won't disagree for team too, feel can make my better but idk,(can hire albedo or any dimensional if needed)
If you build Skraith you can do 5 pull with Queen/Lucretia.
Hali-gali
Any suggestions? I can't beat them.
Get to much damage, tasi can't use her ultimate
Did you check afk helper
Help?
Damn... only way to clear it at my level is throran, eironn, or izold
Halp
I've got two slots on the crystal opening up in an hour. Should I throw Lucius or Tasi on there, or generally what would help me here?


lorsan
thoran
eironn
rowan
skriath
assuming lorsan links antandara and rowan
I’m pretty new in this game. What lineup do you think is the best right now? And did I messed up by focus leveling daimon?
honestly your'e too early for an actua lineup, just do daimon in the back, wukong and brutus in front and like 2 randoms in the back as well
check out the pinned guides in #classic-questions
should help you a fair amount
Daimon is one of the best carrie though so leveling him up is good
How about shimera?
not good
thanks
uhm, is there a way I can make this lineup better?
I can't get him to ult 
whisper words of encouragement into his ear
it'll work
probably
Hey guys ! Any help for 31-60 ? 😉
Worked pretty well ! Just had some trouble with the 1st fight but i Never think about thoran cheese xD he OS everyone and i pass this stage ! Thanks a lot
Afk helper?
wait why is your lucius backline
I think it's because lucius holds up a shield at the start of the battle
what do i do here?
could I get some help here please?
Its the only way he can get his ult up
Sadly isnt enough
Even if you put Lyca there instead?
Hey so I tried it and still just getting steamrolled. I lost the rowan I was using so I switched her for my rowan which is only e, it didn't work so I put talene across from Shamira, daimon mid and nara across from Isabella like this. Any other tips or do I just need time?
Passed it but now stuck here, any tips guys?
Stuck on this level. Help me please someone?
there some good 5th team i can make out of these?
Can't do much without your roster
what is the best lineup I can use? (For PVE)
Belinda
Rosaline
Daimon
Silvina
Silas
thanks
Any help for this stage?
i cant focus level up. My lineup includes Lucius Rowan Talene Daimon Saurus Ainz . What should i do ? Remove lucius or saurus or daimon or ainz from leveling up and from my team? Btw all are mythic i can make any one the SI to +20.
@brisk condor you can try maybe
Safiya
Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Ferael
That if ferael can survive on athalia first skill
Thx
Been trying to continue on the campaign and these are my level 100’s + but can’t find a necessarily solid comp with them
Stuck here and trying to push through the chapter. Want to get 15 cleared so I can have stargazing
Maybe im wrong but stargaze it's not unlocking after you finish chap 15?also, try swap talene Lucius and rowan daimon
So its after you complete chap 15
Anyway, try to add lyca instead of Lucius, maybe daimon goes faster
Idk maybe I'm just underleveled. Even then I get murdered
You just need to ascend one carry, preferably daimon
Now, honestly to be, I've heard that prince is op early game, so maybe you ascend mmm, not sure who, Lucius or bel, to mythic, push to 180 and voila, prince carry at 180
any changes i can make? or am i just underleveled?
Eh it's hard this fight for you. But mirael should be middle and rowan top or bottom, then it's about who s jumping silvina on, rowan or rosaline, it's preferable on Rosa
I got daimon to mythic does this help?
If you lvl him to 180,yeah
I think i’m just under-leveled, they’re dying too fast
Damn im short essence
Reset something to 140
I did it but now all my other heroes dropped to 140
Lucius gets 1 ult off and then he dies and then everything else just dies too shortly after.
yo @brave oriole i cleared it, replaced lyca with daimon. thanks anyways
I've been at this for like 30 minutes and can't seem to get it. Been stuck on it since yesterday.
I got it to there
Stuck again though
@minor whale try
Nara
Brutus
Lyca
Daimon
Rowan
@acoustic cape mhm, do you have fawkes?
Should be fine for the times you need it. Just i dont know if he will coffin shem. Try
Fawkes
Brutus
Rowan
Kaz
Daimon
Ahhh I don't have a rowan, what should I use instead?
Mhm, rowan is vital, but well, try lyca?
Okay got it!
Got brutally destroyed haha
Do you have cecilia? @minor whale
Hmm, try eironn instead of nara
I'm curious if works
Unfortunately it did not, and Idk ill check
Taisi , Lurcien , sami
I do not have Cecilia
@minor whale and what are you trying right now? Take a ss
This was rhe last team I tried after the others didn't work
@minor whale you need Brutus top front to keep busy Isabella, then try swap daimon rowan
Any suggestion? I'm kind of stuck
Tried it a few times but no bueno
@loud imp mmmmm
Try to charm that ferael should help you more. A Brutus could be nice, but maybe rowan can tank.
Try
Ainz
Rowan
Rosa
Talene
Nemora
Try until you charm ferael once, and see how's going with this
Is it still possible to get ainz?
Nemora didn't charm but still somehow pulled it out, thank you
Only through garrison
On friends screen, near merc
Oh
How does the garrison work? Is it like a merc but you can use it whenever you want for the week?
Man I just wanna get 15 beat so I can get twins :/
But watch out, you need rss for prince of Persia also
Yeah, it isn't limited like mercs
@minor whale then, just make mythic Lucius I guess, you have mirael fodder, then you will have a better prince of Persia
Click on friends
Not sure when it's unlocked tho
A bit later on iirc
Meh if I cant own him myself it dont matter
Oh?👀
But garasson is like I can only muse it for few times a day or smth isnt it
No, unlimited
Oh would I be able to lvl it up or would it stay at the lvl my freind has it on
Your crystal lvl, I mean of the hero you link with
I see
You get it naked etc, and you gear up, work on si furn etc etc
Mk well time to rush lvls to unlock it then find someone I get get him of
Cuz gotta get that anime collection 👌🏻
halp? what do?
Maybe try mira, and might wanna put daimon backline
hogan front with Lucius then?
I find that daimon dies easily at frontline, no time for stichy to attack and heal and give him shield
I guess, id also try prince of persia
His stun is amazing and he has 2 lives
put daimon behind lucius
ya just tried this, no dice 
take out prince and put oden in
@mortal sable switch prince and daimon and put nemora on top backline instead of arden (not sure of his name)
Thoughts 😗❓
@mortal sable you shouldn't push more than 100 on the 4x heroes, that way you got dust to push daimon 120+
@pale kettle pull safiya, should be enough
And maybe you don't need Brutus there, rowan should tank Frontline that Brutus and fawkes
Eironn to M then?
Well, nara, eironn cannot cancel safiya mantra, only nara or athalia
Safiya won't pull, my Nara is at E
It doesn't matter, put some gear on nara and call if she's slow
It doesn't bcs of albedo Frontline, put joker front
I've tried the one team you suggested, and I tried double pull here, but any other ideas to beat this stage?
Safiga still won't pull
who should I link my Arthur to?
@pale kettle put gear on athalia and artifact with acc and try
Nvm i beat it, pushing Isabella back to 160 with essence pushed crystal to 160
Very little damage
I was able to push to 15-36 but stuck. Again, this game hates me
any advice?
Need help here at 15-39
daimon
Thoran
Nara/Tasi
Talene
Rowan
Thanks I beat it but now 15-40 is giving me trouble. I just need to beat it for stargazing
Pushed into 16, just curious what my team comp should be now that I have twins
If only elite I would use Talene
I'm not stuck just wondering what my team should be now that I have twins and now that I've got prince mythic
any idea how to push it ?
what do i do? do i need to progress first?
I used elite talene for a while, and Is prince linked to Belinda?
Im not sure how viable prince is. He seems kinda fragile
Swap Daimon, and Rowan Also it you die extremely fast try lyca
I tried but sorry it didnt work out . Skergs not getting damage from ainz ultimate . But it one shot all my team
Yes
Also prince is kinda tanky, especially when he can get just one shield
K I think it'll be a lot easier to choose a team the farther you progress. You'll have a couple heros that you pretty much have to use cuz they're your main y'know? If you just keep summoning your team will make itself
For now just use your highest ascension heros
Okay
Ideas?
Do I have a viable PvP team?
anyone know what i can do?
Replace thoran with lucius, make your backline Ainz, rowan, daimon
If that doesn't work replace Arthur with lucius instead
any ideas on this?
What do you all think about this
How are u losing?
Because attack stat means nothing in this game.
Replace thoran with lucius and tell me if it goes any better
he ulted 1 time and died instantly, there was rowan and daimon last, not was enuf i guess 
swapped athalia/silas places did it lucius did well when axe guy gone, thanks
NP
Lucius is mediocre but hed good early game for sustain, keeps your guys shielded long enough to ult
if i would manage to get rowan M it would be better i guess, not seems so tanky without ult
Yeah, sometimes you just gotta play with positioning too. Ive beat stages after losing over and over with the exact same team rearranged
Also, stuck here, help with finding my best team or a team for this stage
I won stages after 100+ retry
nice
Any suggestions please?
I'd try brutus instead of talene here. need to stall for ainz.
Tried this cointless times
brutus hogan arden rowan daimon might work
do you now see how pointless this channel is and why nobody helps anymore?
I’m in chapter 25, what hero’s are good In 25+ I don’t know who I need to work on
Should I go for Cecilia or for rosaline
Rosaline
you have a lot of strong good staple units
Looking for someone to help me build 3 good teams for arena.
What team should I use for Wrizz?
In a Belinda comp can I replace Fawkes with a Gwyn?
Damn your hero’s look nice
Are Thoran and Brutus good in chapter 25+
Thank you. Minor spender (less than $30/month) and playing for about 1.5 years.
I can see at least 2 for Davyn. Eilron Comp (Eilron, Lycra, Nemora, Tasi and forgot the last one for that), Then Gwyn comp (Arthur, Lucius, Gwyn, Rosa, Rowan(?))
3rd would just be a casual throw Ainz at it until RNG lets you murder it, with Albedo, maybe Brutus to buy time and a support and secondary DPS
I hope that somewhat helps, but I'm not experienced with the game too well. Just know those 2 teams got Synergy
Thank you for the tips!
No worries.
Read the pins. Your main issue is way too many L heroes.
A mistake I made before joining this discord
Help with this stage please, its been a booger
Have you tried with Lyca or thoran? Also Shemira I think is pretty good around that stage, at least for me she was, she carried my team for many chapters
What lineup should I use I’m on chapter 8 and a lot of the heroes for this comp are at the max level so I was wondering if there’s a better one I can use
Can someone help with this? Kept getting stuck
Help :( just the 2 team
How should I make up a team with talene in it? I am a beginner
Shemira is definitely good around there, Can probably substitute Thoran in there somewhere
Any suggestions for this lvl? Ps dont pay attention to the team layout thats on there.
I require some assistance in this level..
Can you guys tell a good lineup
I is need help for chapter 6 what heroes can I use?
Updated list (I just got Mezoth)
I can reset them i just want to know whats the best setup out of all my heros
help?
first of all dont make heroes legendary if you cant make em leg+,thats just wasted fodder
How was I supposed to know that i just started a month ago and just joined this a weak ago i just play the game and evolve when i can
now you know👍
Everyone does it before they know better, we're just trying to help you moving forward
Uhh ok im not getting mad if that’s what your thinking
it kind of sounded like u were gettin mad lol
Also should i just go with all the leg
im not the best u can ask but you should deffinitely use daimon,belinda,saurus and rosalin,and idk maybe kaz the fifth hero,thats what i would do.Altough im not the best
you mean to upgrade ur legs to.leg+?
and further?
No i mean should i just continue my setup with all the leg i can upgrade them later when i have the chance
sure you can do that,especially with shemira and rosaline,shemira is a great carrier for early game bcs she is easy to get,and rosaline will help in early game and further.Izold is a good carrier too,but since you have shemira you shouldnt prioritize him rn,brutus will become useless after early game,but its still decent in early game,idk abt peggy,i kind of like her and i use her in my main lineup,so i guess she is worth.
Anyways every hero can be helpful at some point,just remember to use only fodder(common heroes upgraded) to upgrade em,cuz every single one of it is useful somewhere
dont try to get any mythics rn,focus on making 5 leg+ heros
What about cecilia should i level up and upgrade her anytime soon
she is pretty hard to get,since she is a celestial,but you can try soon enough,not worth tryi g rn
same thing with lucretia
I have her
And is lucius good for tanking on boss fight or guild hunting or is he easily destroyed
he s pretty good early game,but not in mid game or late game,u shoulfnt focus on uograding him
i already did that mistake lol
Also if you don’t know raku sucks dont ever use if lel
he s not the worst tbh
i kind of like the damage he did for me on the new boss event
I kinda hate that rosaline follows the strongest i wish you can choose
But that prob be to op you would get a unit that buffs and speedrun everything
Anyone have any advice for this stage? 😦
what do i do?
Is there a better option of a team for me rn?
my post was deleted I don't know why...
That's cancer, I've reached it one hour ago and the team melts everything, you can't even use nara on oden
Suggestions? That fear is really screwing me up and Nara can't lock him down fast enough it seems
Hello ! I use those character but I have the ticket to exchange character. I thought exchanging Tasi but I don't know if it's better to upgrade Nemora, Peggy or Talene
any ideas? :(
@sharp ermine do not swap tasi for those heroes. Actually, do not swap tasi for any hero.
How do i beat this stage
Do I have any heroes that would be effective? 😫
Been stuck here for a minute
You need to overlevel your daimon,
Use
Ainz
Lucius
Rowan
Joker
Twins
Maybe? Or Saurus in place of joker
@hybrid nacelle you can check the leaderboard in your floor for the heroes. I would suggest to merc a better saurus next reset. In the meantime, you can prolly run saurus, rosa, ceci, rowan, twins.
I have one position left who should I use
Yeah I wasn't sure so I problem gave bad advice
Savess
Or grezhul, maybe even nara to pull the spider chick if she's bullying your Frontline
Have any tips for me?
@minor whale you could try this

They work together for me sometimes lol@warm swan
If only they have the same si and furn 
Lol, ya probably won't have same results
i mean, those arent exactly an investment that casual players have
Lol, I've kinda got a lot of furniture
Got more reds than golds right now
Would Daimon Rowan Lyca Eironn Twins work better him?
God this stage is almost every hero that gives me trouble, what should I do?
Help
Idk if you were joking but this team got deleted lmao
I just get ruined im absolutely stuck :/
sub oscar out of reso if not tasi ferael or nara will do
Wdym shud i put tasi in reso
resonating crystal
Didn't work
@warm swan swap Shemira maybe ?
Help pls
I would definitely have Daimon and Shemira in that, maybe even lyca and Brutus. Would also pick Shemira over Ainz any day
could someone help me
I can try, I don’t so much remember the early game but I’ll do my best. I would add shemira and Eironn in there, I know that Saeves is a really good carry for the early game too. Maybe add rosaline with shemira or Lucius
I have 2 free slots who do I select between Oden Thane and Grezhul
Use nara to pull vurk?
Nope shemira trash ainz wayy better
I can't use Eiron instead of Daimon due to powercap. Ainz doesn't seem to cut it, not enough power to oneshot
why not eironn in middle back and kill mehira
He said so already why
eironn wouldn't even pull mehira before she spawns her bats. He would have to use nara but he wouldn't even be able to hit power cap with her for 5 or 6 levels or smth
@dusky sentinel what's your tree?
Need help with this stage, and this is my formation and heroes
Put lucius up front with daimon, put rowan back mid, and then on the outside of your backline use tasi and rosa
Around 21-22 in all except sorcery at 13
Well, reduce tank/might to 10 or so, and push Cele supp
Will up your power a little
22 is my tree cap atm. I think I'll just need more levels. Feels bad not using the weekly Merc though
This was my clear for 29-54, but I doubt you would hit power cap with it
I could try something similar replacing Saurus for Daimon if I get a Merced Nara. I've requested lots of merca to see if I can make it as well, but not many ppl on
E Nara gets the job done
This setup wouldn't work with daimon because it relies on saurus's healing, but if you're able to get a nara merc, you can just use one of the many daimon clears from afk helper
power cap
my b didn’t check his levels
This power cap thing is such a pain, I haven't needed to worry about it until now and it's already driving me crazy
Yeah, I really hope they lower it because of the campaign nerfs. I have to use my 5 highest power heroes to even start campaign battles, and even then most of them take less than 5 retries. It supposedly becomes less of an issue later on
managed to get a merced nara and did it. Right after the successful attempt a 30/9 lucrecia merc request was accepted. I wish I had done this earlier lol
nice, have fun on 29-60, hopefully it's less of a pain after the nerfs
I’m in chapter 26, who should I work on building?
Any ideas for AE please am stuck ??
Any advice? Athalia is massacring
@thorn coral I'm amazed by the lack of rowan
Is Rowan good? I’m in chapter 26
yeah rowan's ok

Any advice
Any specific order the lineup needs to be?
@wooden bison can you send a photo of your cele tree and support tree so I can just suggest you a team?
Tier lists in general are not really reliable. Including this one
Mehira is doing the most damage against me when I try to beat this stage with izold carry and 5 pull
A team for?
for the boss
Ah sure
do not reference this, it is essentially misinformation
I dont need to send a pic
You'll want a nara (even e) with lyca haste and possibly upgraded boots to pull mehira before she spawns her bats
My cele tree is 5.0 and support tree is 3.0
Were on about ae tree right?
yes
@humble apex I have an elite Nara, what do you think I should put with the Nara and lyca
Yh my celerity just hit level 5. And my support just hit level 3
You can probably do it with daimon and izold too, but this is what I used
Doesnt matter. Mehira makes herself unkillable at the beginng of fights. Use nara or athalia to cancel it. It doesnt matter if they die as long as mehiras skill was stopped
@wooden bison okay I’ll mess around with some lineups. Thanks
Sorry I forget what you were asking. If you only care about prince just get 5.3 or 5.4 cele and 5.0 sust and you should easily hit 100m
Ok ty
Pinging @summer cedar as requested.
bruh read the channel description. I normally avoid this channel but I'm gonna try to help u and this is the place for it. However, I need context to help.
Sorry. Want to see just everyone I have or in basic factions?
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everyone helps
Ok, I’m stuck in 12 starting having issues in 11 until I L+’d Tasi. I think because either I have the wrong heroes on the crystal or I need higher ranks. I’ll post my basic factions and then I also have wu kong, twins, talene, flora, mortars, ezizh, and zolrath all at E. Only first three are on crystal. @summer cedar
When asking for lineup help show a screenshot of the campaign stage
brutus hogan saveas rowan arden will be a great team for you
In general i have no clue what im doing rn with my heros but i no eiron and rowan are good, and floras meh
Ok, I’ll try that one. Thanks.
does anyone have any ideas?
read the pinned guide in #classic-questions and stop ascending heroes to L
Dunno what exactly I should be doing for my setup, but that’s my team setup. Only ones who are elite+ are rosaline, and fereal
Tier lists are very bad for afk arena. I would again recommend reading the pinned guide in #classic-questions . For where you're at, prioritize leveling wukong up until level 100. After that you'll want to ascend 5 fodder heroes to L+ while putting anyone else you use on the resonating crystal. Saveas and Mirael are great up to lv 160. For your lineup, you'll typically want to run a carry, two supports, and two tanks
my comment above would apply for you to
Ok ty
Any help? Kinda getting messed up here
Try rowan brutus daimon tasi ferael
🥴
even with switching gear?
I believe they all have the best gear they can have
Nvm I lied, put my jokers gear on fearel!
Nvm I lied again, still too low lol
I’ll lyk how it works give me a couple minutes 🙂
That ezizh is a pain, those delayed ults are rough
The goal is to get lucky with a Tasi ult somewhere -> rowan ult -> daimon killing ezizh
!! had to put my rowans boots on tasi for the dodge. Worked like a charm
nice
Thanks!
is there no way? do i merc?
Daimon is usually better on the backline, especially not frontline in front of an Isabella. If you have any tanks, I would say Rowan tank Daimon Silas Ferael
I’ve been struggling with this for a few days, any advice?
brutus skreg lyca arden daimon
Trying to push arena and hit 1800, my top is 1780. Give me the best lineup to push pvp??
@maiden marsh u awake?
i'd use budget burst or ainz, depends if the opposition is running fat ainzes
Is there an up to date list with challenger team comps x3?
Hello
@hasty condor hi
The main way to improve your team is to make a strong GB wishlist. Daimon, thoran, Oden, izold and fera should get you started. As you get faction scrolls and faction cards, go for GB. Daimon is the way to go with any luck @hasty condor
Aimb in lineup help? What is this
any laneup tips or artifact for this mauler tower?
Shroud for tidus and book for saf?
Anyone know how to beat this
Tell a good lineup
I believe it's best to usually save the hero choice chests until you need the last copy of a hero from there
As for your lineup, you shouldn't be leveling A tier heroes as you'll be level capped if you don't have the copies to ascend them. Probably best to reset them and level 5 fodder tier heroes and put the A tier in the crystal
which ones are fodder tier/a tier in my case
Everything with 3 abilities is fodder.
Easiest way to tell for starters.
need help my guyss
Can you try a
Eirron
Rowan
Talene
Brutus/thoran
Lyca
Oh wait, your eirron not +30
, but no harm to try anyway
best lineup for AE?
what lineup should i use for this stage? also, what is a good overall lineup for campaign?
you are a boss thanks so much 
Help pls
any idea on what do to here?
Im stuck is there a lineup i could make to get past?
Something that helped me with those stages is knowing each factions weaknesses
Those wilders will get decimated
faction advantage isn't really worth thinking about. more importantly, respen is not helping here. try brutus instead, or a nara to hook one of the backline threats
Ok
But those 14 heroes with lvl 10s tho 
any big brain tips for this?
don't put daimon where he gets kicked and killed immediately?
well that makes sense
i tried daimon backline and brutus in front but he just gets deleted
I used daimon in position 1 and it worked well
But lucius died imediatley
Joker Lucius ferael daimon eironn
Rowan midback and belinda where morael is, morael gets out
any ideas? My other comp is ainz team and I can t use it here
Do you have a gorvo or a tidus
Help..
29-60 turned out to be quite easy. Could beat with the same Daimon comp I was using, just putting Lyca in front of athalia. Editing my nickname now ^^
hey guys, i’m new to this game and i need some help for like how many people from each role (tank, mage etc.) i need on my team? currently i have Rogan, Prince, Angelo, Mirael, and Rosaline. I was thinking of trying to get a lineup of smth like Lucius, Brutus, Nemora, and two other high damage characters, do these characters work well together and/or what characters should be my others?
I recommend you start by reading the pinned messages in the #classic-questions channel. For your specific questions, generally there is a carry with a couple other chars supporting them, but each comp has its own nuances and flexibility (there are a couple of chars that fit almost any team, and once you get to multibattles -which is around 5 months for f2p- you'll have to decide which team you place them).
okie ty
do i even have a chance here? feel like I’ve tried everything possible
ideal line up to 20 sec MV stage 2?
Brutus with his invicibility so annoying, already tried gwyn to kill him asap, but still it takes me 24 secs at maximum
I'm a little confused, who should I focus on leveling up?
shemira, or some other carry
donmt level up more than 5 herroes ath the same time, u haveresonant crystal
hi,,, i need help with the resonating crystal.. it bothers me that the heroes who use the crystal, are stuck in the level of the lowest on the pentagram. i feel like i'm stuck in place with the game.
That's because you want the heroes on the pentagram to be your main heroes that you're leveling. You need a carry thats 20 levels above the rest and the rest at that 20 levels under Mark
Check pins
It's all in the pins. You level fodder-tier heroes early game.
Help pls
Mirael Arden Golus Hogan Silvana is the base team that low
Don't level Shemira, she's kind shit
Can any1 help with this
Try Hendrik, Gorvo, Morael, Skraith, Lorsan
Aight, thx !
Any tip?
Any tips for my line up (Ik Brutus isnt optimal but I just don’t know what to replace him with)
I need help pls
Any ideas?
Swap Rosa and the new mage
what do i do?
That wave should be easy put it lyca and move daimon down a spot
I would try taking rowan out for her
just tried this but I literally get run over before I can get 1 ult off 
or is 160k power gap just a bit too much?
Best I got so far, but Isabella is just insane
No...usually in my experience you should be able to clear double
In early game clearing double is harder
Yes she is. Many times I have had to have 20+ attempts
Especially when you are using sub par heroes
This is another issue for both of them
You might be better off pulling the new mage and putting in daimon.
It will still likely take lots of attempts
E daimon was useful for me up until about 14-15
should I maybe get rosaline in instead of arden? he doesn’t even get his root of anyways I feel like
Rosaline is good, but there are better choices
You can try but she probably won't be much help either
If arden is dying to fast anyways swap him and rowan. Atleast rowan heals after death
@pale kettle Damn it worked thanks!
E Daimon is good if you can keep him alive
Keep using Damion he will carry you. At mythic tho he is significantly better.
@mortal sable put Rowan middle daimon top
Rowan if he stays alive can boost everyone’s damage and energy
I’ll try that, https://imgur.com/a/pt3HYDN this is how the fight looks like rn 
I still use Damion all the time
if it even loads
Rowan should help keep Lucius from dying, if you can get Lucius’ ult off you should be good
If my daimon wasn’t E I’d use him more
Muriel is the one killing your team. Need to keep daimon close to her.
When the when estra uses her charge attack you need daimon to target Muriel instead of her afterwards
yea I tried pulling her with eironn but not possible 
You could even try daimon front instead of hogan and put mirael in
Mirael has good dps I’ve heard, never used her though
If you don't have one copy of nara yet make sure she is in your wishlist
Mirael daimon Rowan Lucius lyca top to bottom, let me know if that works out for ya
If that doesn’t work let me know
How much did you spend to get that at level 56
Nice!
And when I eventually get Arthur imma just link him to thoran
Then work on that albedo merc
Yeah get the aniz nuke up asap
SI medals are hard af to get
And my dumbass put some into thoran thinking I could reset it like everything else
I’d have ainz like +16 if I wasn’t so stoopid lol
How can I beat this lol, Daimon isn’t helping me
Did slightly better
Who carries dps in your lineup?
Hmm idk, your setup is a lot different than what I’m used to
Drop morael for daimon and see how it goes, idk if he can survive tho
Daimon dies in the first 10 seconds
Who should i upgrade to L? Please
Let me see your bag @radiant fulcrum
Don’t upgrade to L, wait until you have copies to L+
To keep them like that? I need improvement im stuck on campaign
Got Twins at last so who should they replace and how should my lineup be for most optimal damage output?
I’ve never tried thane, so I couldn’t tell you if he was good, ask in questions this is more their style I believe @wicked glade
Try swapping cele for Belinda,
I’d personally say rosaline, but I’m not the best to ask for it
Any one?
Gg, thanks!
Hello, I need some advice: which 5 should you choose for your campaigns? I currently own it.
you generally dont want to take heros to Legendary if you dont have enough to take them to L+, generally level fodder heros as your highest leveled heros and put the heros u plan on using for campaign and boss stages into your crystal. I would also suggest checking out the two most recent pins in #classic-questions
Ok, thx
Sorry for the late reply, no luck though 
Sorry bro
any idea ?
all good, guess I just gotta play the afk part and wait for my daimon to progress or something
Any tips besides leveling up my team?
uh fwiw do rowan +30 next, ainz +30 first is not necessary until you can get both ainz/albedo to +30 and have some furn for albedo/arthur and 9F for ainz
when you place nara opposite mehira is she interrupting the bats?
Idk
She pulls her knocks her down and dies
nara doesn't have to do damage
when mehira gets her bats off she gets like 3 lives or something
nara's only goal is to stop mehira from getting her bats off. if she does that, she did her job
you can try the fight on 1x with and without nara and stare above mehira's head. if she gets bats off there will be 3 symbols above it. if not, there won't
She doesn't gets bats off
But I don't do any damage
uh damn you should stop making so many L/M heroes tbh. you could probably have a bunch more supports/options if you saved fodder
as is, you don't really have any good CC supports at all (fera/tasi/eironn)
Bats are stopped
tbh try
thoran rowan ainz albedo joker
and pray for rng gods to beat it with pure damage
if you wait a few days for campaign nerfs it'll get even easier
Thoran and Ainz are linked
maybe brutus instead of thoran just to stall
Is this doable?
Insta melt. Every. Single. Time.
I’ve been retrying it nonstop with different compositions. The outcome is usually the 2 tanks and my Rowan/luc surviving until the timer runs out
try brutus rowan daimon tasi talene
I can’t spell
@lone wren got ti thanms

Congrats on the title! Absolutely deserved 😁
thx but its just chatting nothing special like contribiters 
rowan brutus ainz ferael and nara with t1 4* boots
an easy way to go about it is to go into #classic-chat and wait for domzy yo be around and disagree with him
ez 2 hour debate
I swear that dude got the worst fucking takes
he's still fun to talk to and sometines he's right
yes but stop baiting people into thinking that thane is good 
Says my team isn't strong enough
damn
well try albedo instead of brutus
and do get her 3 furn and daimon to +20
Still isn't strong enough
@lone wren ^
damn
if u can get fera to M that would help
getting ascnesion and unlokcing his SI gives good cbr
otherwise u will need to level up
ye then do some they give quite alot of cbr
even the sub points in a level
Yeah
Have one idea of Team build?
u got a pippa even e copy? she can tele eirron there
try smth like rowan tasi nara (with t1 3* boots) pippa daimon if yes
try checking the site. I would think tasi rowan nara eironn daimon works tho
Need Nara to pull or Athalia to dive Mehira
That's how you deal with all Mehira stages. You can't let her get her bats
Yeah you are handicapping yourself too fyi lol
Albedo Si30 has priority over Ainz si30 so I definitely recommend finishing her asap
I am getting her to +30
Cool. I only said that bc I saw you got ainz to 30 first lol
Recommendations for a Wrizz/Soren lineup?
Could I please get some help
@ionic lava pull mirael
Help with a campaign lineup?
I've tried
Read the pinned guide in the questions channel
@ionic lava mhm, shemira without rosaline it's a bad combo
I know but she dies to quick I will try tho
Sorry that's the language I found it in
You can easy trick estrilda with Rosa front of shem down,
Ok
Thoran or Grezhul (To legendary)
Yeah I'm just stuck
Hmm, you think I could replace twins with Rowan?I don't have Raine or Saurus either. Maybe Baden instead of Saurus?
What could deal 45m?
Merc a Saurus. The other can be Lorsan and Rowan for now
No twins no Saurus, and yet chap 32...
good call. never used a merc in my life so i forgot that existed lol. thanks
Anyone?^
I'm chapter 30 with no Saurus lol
Chapter 29 no Saurus
Is there a guide with best lineup for Soren and Wrizz up to date ?
@modern kelp
Oh well, thanks 😅
What are your relics looking like. If you're top one isn't 5.3 I'd wait
Here's some advice
How do I know if they are 13 or 28 stacks?
@high marlin ^
Anybody got an idea, dont comment on the legendaries btw i already know
It appears next to the health bar on the right side
The enraged circle?
Only level up 5 heros
Its not worth resetting lvl 20 people so cant rlky do anything, was tryna fit every a tier in 1 pic when that was still possible lol
Oh, ok, lol
If anybody has a good lineup tell me thanks
Thank you!
Yeah it's much cheaper to reset and lose like 4 stamina compared to 48 if you just let it end lol
Lol, yeah
Anyone have lineups for new Altar phase?
I’ve been struggling with the scenerio and was looking for a proper team to start using, any recommendations?
lving up shem and lucius and nemora would be good
First reset rosaline and the Wukong. To pumps daimon up to 101 and Wukong is useless now because he is stuck 100.
Second use Daimon as your carry.
Third I would use this team:
Nemora
Daimon
Fereal
Thorn
Oden
You could use Rosaline instead of Nemora/Fereal/ Oden
Heya everyone! Been stuck here for quite a bit. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
Can u send hero pool as well?
I marked the heroes that can bypass the power cap here. Everyone else is practically useless.
Can merc if necessary. Although I would like to save it for the last stage
You could try merc'ing an athalia tho, and run a
Lucretia
Saurus (or def a lyca if can bypass powergap)
Atha
Rowan
Eirron
Stage 30-60..! Any idea how to win that?
Show how the stage looks like
yes also try and get silas or rowan
i recommand silas causes he works well with daimon
So I've only been playing a few days. Any new lineup/build advice would really be helpful.
Hey here’s my characters I need help making a team but everything I try just does unless they’re my elite plus or above so I’m hardstuck mid chapter 10
Your carry should be the higher level. Try making shemira 100 and wukong 80. And place rowan in the middle for max efficiency 😄
OK! Thank you @charred ermine !
I thought wukong was my carry lol
Your main problem here is making heroes at L. Should never L it if you cant immediately make it into Legendary+. But it's fixable with time, just don't create the same mistakes forward 😁
Nah, he will fall off pretty fast since there are far more better picks than him. Shemira alone could carry you to chapter 17 or so. Try switching Hogan with Thoran as well.
Ight I’ll remember that but I just don’t know what to do or use since I seem to be stuck on most things like campaign and what not
I've look at your heroes, and not gonna lie, you've got diverse hero pulls. Good and a bad thing since you'll have a hard time ascending them early on (pray for good rng Lol), but also a good thing since you already have different picks ready for mid-late game
All you have to do now is wait for resources and good pulls. And fix the Legendary mistake
Will do!
KT 568
afkhelper.nax.is for more user-compiled clear screens
Can anyone recommend a good healer? I think my only one is Numisu, and I need someone to replace Izold with. He’s starting to get too close to killed too often, and Hogan is a better tank IMO
U can just upload it to afkhelper
i do it for both in case someone doesn't know of afkhelper yet
Im stuck at this level. I do not think my backline is ok. Who should I replace?
what can I do here?
Maybe try swapping Lyca and Oden? If that's not enough, possibly try Rowan back middle, then either Tasi/Silas back bottom
I dont think that Silas it's better than rowan there.
got it, thanks guys
can i get some help?
crazy floor
any advice?
Any ideas?
make mirael your carry
put in mirael as many levels as you can and then level up everybody else
this level is like some cruel error 404 joke. I don t know what to do
check begginer guide in pins at question channel. You should get wukong as carry till 100 level and then mirael/saves until 160. After that daymon would be best carry at M ascension
best lineup for this?
#837307803302625310
Specifically the pins.
Or just ask around :)
I is need a unit to replace my silvina
what do i do?
@pale kettle regular 5pull not working?
U asking someone to 5pull rosa?
He's only 50ish lvls below 
Just thoran cheese it
Thoran cheese
Thoran
lol, maybe I would if I had him XD
?
M thoran
Have you tried thoran cheesing it?
Why er why not? I cheesed with M thoran straight to 33 buddy
Unless you mean powercap, then i cant help ya
thoran wasn t high on priority list bcs I didn t expect multis anytime soon so he s still E+
It fine, i started cheesing at 31-56. Im in the same boat 
Would anybody be willing to help me with my 3 arena lineups? I need help with a good defense against this guy, I will also show my hero’s.
i randomly used the elite shards and got an alna on one of my alt accs pog
I am stuck here.Help pls
I started cheesing when i was 23-23
stuck on 11-24, no open crystal spots though. any suggestions on a line up that will help me win, and carry me through the rest of 11
I can win the first fight but then the fight gets reset and I lose
Nvm
I beat it
hogan lucius arden mira rowan is pretty standard. if lucius isn't ulting, swap in thoran or brutus
i beat it and stuck on 11-31 now, but all 3(hogan, lucius and thoran) drop instantly, and brutus as well. just seems im not strong enough, but i have no chance of developing beyond afk awards
seems like the game is aptly named then
What should I merc for this? The combat rating isn’t allowing me to use anything other than my ascended heroes sadly and I can’t get anything done.
At this point do I just wait until I can get some more heroes up? This is the first time I’ve hit that combat rating wall
ty for your reply
Don't put ainz on front, switch him with rowan,and replace mehira with nara if you have
Just use any heroes with high rating
Help pls
Can you try a
Ainz
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Shemira
nara
brutus
eironn
rowan
daimon
Ainz and shemira liked so can't use
Daimon or lyca instead
Should I change any artifacts
Call for rowan, eye for ainz (if ainz cant ult in time, just throw in a double call rowan-ainz)
a fat fera I should think
Anybody know how to beat the stage
Help pls
have u tried using daimon instead of luc or brutus
How are you so far?
My units are higher lvl and tier I guess my formations just suck
Ok the picture won’t send
It’s Brutus daimon and then
Rowan, tasi, Silas
I have khazard, flora, talent, Elijah and lailah, lucretia, and wu kong
Any advice?
I generally try stages a lot and i look for the statistics thing at the end and snipe enemies who did the most dmg in the backline with athalia/nara
Ty
did you try fareal instead tasi or lyca?
Yeah
or arthur as tank?
First try!
First try!
Is there a catalog for these?
Now I can’t clear this stage
Nvm big heals from talent cleared it
Daimon rng really helps sometimes even if it seems like impossible
I’m looking for a second team for the chasmic altar
When should a lineup matter in the game?
always?
Would I be able to try and push any further or am I stuck because of hero essence for now?
A good team to use for the final boss of abex? Trying to hit the 45M and hopefully the 100M too
doing only cel heroes wirh no support will get u close enough to duke requirment with 5.4 cel relics
its near impossible from my exprience on alts to do nearly close to 100m for prince without twins who u got only at e so not eligible
u would need tidus and athalia rdy with ults to insta delete the totems and that even is heavy rng
u would want to do mirale arden as a stable core but since u got daimon he helps alot
for now do brutus ogi arden pippa daimon
pippa should port the estrilda onto hogan
do u have good gear on tasi or any good mage gear ?
if yes do brutus tasi ferael daimon rowan
early on I invested on the tank tree cause I didn't know better and kinda stuck with it sadly
haven't good mage gear(
try to see if u can rng enough for tasi to survive and tele to safety
u rly rly rly need the tasi banish and the ferael to disable the enemy tasi
but also i can't remove my eironn, bcs without him i stuck from much shields and suck
daimon can do well woth those double cc no need to worry much about healing it should be fine at 40 deficit
no way :<
hmm i dont have ogi leveled up rn and would have to rip something else out to fit it in the team but ill try the suggestions out all the same @lone wren and see if i can make somethng work
Looking for ideas on what to do here. Banish, knockback, Vurk poison and web are all happening.
I need help...this is my first struggle since 30-20.
not exact lineups, but I would do cheese, raku, then daimon
For which one?
in that order. r1 is easy cheese, r2 should be fine with raku, and r3 can be brute forced with daimon and friends.
I understand that, but I mean, who all do I use with those characters in those parts?
Eironn middle back and the rest will group up themselves with thoran. Chuck rowan in and you're golden.
Talene brutus lyca ferael raku for r2
Grezhul tasi raine pippa oden for r3
Eironn, Thoran, Rowan, ?, ?
try ezizh, rowan, (trash slot) eironn, thoran
spam daimon prince cc 
grezhul, prince, daimon, ezio, nara
Alright, I'll try it out
ezio is the most flexible slot, he could be replaced with athalia to disrupt oden, or silas
Yeah they're just falling over.
is nara interrupting bats?
no
mehira will one shot with whip o.0
This is the fight everyone uses alna on which I don't have -__-
Then either restart the multi and give her call or put someone else in her place because she's not helping in that case
With call she interrupts bats, but team is still immediately falling over
Try athalia on oden then
Yeah that's what I swapped to
Still not going great
drape or vitality on grezhul maybe? Izold is kicking his ass
Waistband
Out of 20 retries, I got close one time. Rosa surprisingly was the one to kill Thoran
Then it's winnable for sure
Does giving ath call make her stop oden before the port?
Mmmm yes
That's good news
Merc available, 2nd team is easy
who is rosa following
I guess Lucius since there's Brutus. Try daimon it @proper orchid
Easy for daimon vs 5 lbs
I came so close just now. Rosa had a pixel of health, but managed to kill Thoran
Lineup suggestions? Maybe someone I can merc to win with?
Ok, I don’t think this is gonna work. Got close 3 times out of over 100 retries
Fuck with the positioning, could be a 100% cheese simply by mirroring comp or something
Anyone knows how to win this stage
Good ol Mauler 387. Look up clears on afk helper
And you’ll probably want a max Kren or Khasos merc
Thx
Ugh I hate maulers any help appreciated ty
Do you have Kren
I hear hes good
Ya but just a basic elite one
I’m so confused, aren’t people usually like 90 floors higher at that level?
What’s a good line up for this cuz Saveas and Morvus shredding my ppl

