#lineup-help
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search up PoP bountiful trial guide, it should be a reddit post with the guide
Can someone help me from above?
u need brutus position 2. if rosa not ulting, try lyca
ko
Can someone help me im so stuck and have no idea what to do.
Hey people, i got as far as monkey boy and a team of fodder could take me, now i would like to ask for a bit of help to form a real team to keep going.
Who should i put on the Resonating Crystal? I got 8 slots and could get more with diamonds if needed.
It's time for you to ascend those fodders to L+ and break the 160 cap
I know, im working on it slowly, but since im only 6 day old on the game i dont have enough heroes to do it for the 5
prince stuns and 1 mirael ult isnt enough, brutus cannot live to do anything
Anyone have any ideas here?
swap talene with lucius, then belinda with rowan?
swap rowan with maid
Can anyone help me with a set line up?
Sadly didn’t work
oh mk
@dark niche you are doing a great job with your fodder management tho. Keep it up.
Chapter 30-2 here. What composition should I go for with what I have. I started without ever using a guide when I joined last year so I may have nothing that works in comp haha. What would be the best team to grind to 33?
Get daimon to 20, can use daimon for a while. Get albedo to 303, then ainz comp will stop sucking. Get chicken 3F, and you can use 5 pull.
Bless you
Chapter 20 - 21 I need something that has a high damage output. Any ideas will be appriceated because I started without knowing there was a guide and this is all trial and error.
Daimon
Now please read the first two guides pinned to #classic-questions because you've bricked this account for quite a while
Thank you
What are the two best possible lineups to make for legends
thanks sorry for the late reply
Best line up here?
daimon
thoran
rowan
brutus
lyca
or try replace lyca to pull between ferael or isabella
eh my bad i mean replace lyca with nara forgot to type her
lol its works with ferael too i guess gz
yea and make sure not use talene.. she's not useful for daimon.. and rowan will be your best friend to make daimon ulti faster
not useful coz she's E too
Sorry for the noob question but what do I use for the Chasmic altar
Been struggling to pass this level. Any suggestions? And yes I know to stop advancing to gold. The damage has been done;-;
Need help on this level
any help with faction tower?
Nara for Silas if you have a copy of her
I'm lost on what to do on this account for a lineup for campaign
Any tips for this? I'm hard stuck
Can someone help me out? Kinda stuck
Yo could somebody help me out with the best chasmic team or w.e?
Please ping me if you can help.
Try saurus instead of your celestian (srry i dont remember her name)
K hold on ill tell you the results
And maybe switch daimon and rosaline
@lusty breach try thoran plus daimon front line
It didnt work :/ saurus dies too quickly but the rosaline and daimon switch showed some better results
And wu kong shemira and rowan behind
im currently using monkey thoran dam rowan farael
ok will try it
also the celestials name is Alna but thats fine
@lusty breach you have a problem with your level management atm.
You need to reset that Wu Kong and use Mirael or Daimon as carries now.
People say Wu Kong is very good pre lvl 100, but thats definitely not the case if he is many ascensions behind two great carries such as Daimon and Mirael.
Thank you 😭
yea im kinda lost on when to reset wk.. am planning to carry daimon but should i do mirael instead?
For saurus take him out and put daimon then try to put a healer or a mage as your skiriath
it worked!!! thank u so much
I would do Daimon.
Perfect congrats
so if i reset wk i should pump daimon and level another fodder instead? cos i will only have 4 leveled once i reset him
Yes, but dont level all your heroes at the same level, try to get Daimon as high as possible
It didnt work again :/ kinda struggling here
Oh nooo
Daimon in front dies too quickly
You havnt got something like a numisu or a nemora
I do
Iy didnt worked ?
But the Silvana takes them out too quickly before they can actually do anything
I see
Also, hero-wise should I reset anyone or etc.
Maybe your celestians
@vivid vigil reset that rowan, wu, alna, sav, zaph. You only need to lvl 5 foddder heroes
You gotta wait to get another one
K
And upgrade them
I've just been ham-fisting my team and would like some input on which heroes to put together for better comps to get further into campaign, on 16-17
@vivid vigil you really need to stop ascending A heroes to L
Done
Yeah, you're soon to be lvl capped. Your priority should be breaking that cap.
Mhm
Currently trying to roll some Daimons for L+
Instead I got like 4 rowans and 2 celestials
Im not sure but maybe you should try to lvl up your estrilda bc you dont have that mich phisycal hero
I'm having a little trouble passing this stage, how should I change up this lineup?
Im pretty sure im not very qualified to say anything, but quick question: how long does your Daimon usually survive?
it's hard to say exactly how long, but so far he's been dying before my backline
I put Daimon in my backline to stall for the first ult, then Daimon can keep chaining ults.
Not sure if that's what you're supposed to do, but Daimon's always in my backline
i'll give that a try then, thank u
this time daimon was the last one to die with one last enemy, so i think i'm getting a little closer
Maybe put rowan on the front line hes a pretty good tank
i think he might be too weak at this ascension level, he's been dying pretty quickly on the frontline. i might need to wait and level up daimon some more i guess
If you want
Sorry for the ping, but who should I be leveling up with the Hero's Essence I got from the resets?
Can you show all your heros
Was the last Vedan? (Aka guy who can turn into bats and has a rapier)
@vivid vigil shem is the only unit that you can lvl up to 160. The rest will be stuck at 140
yeah that's the one! he's such a pain
Yes good idea its a top tier mage
For now, and seeing as there is no other choice, yes lvl her. I wouldn't call shem top tier tho 
youre the first person to use the word mage lmao nvm
Srry im french and its this name in french version
Why not she'll already be pretty useful
Need 4 other heroes to be 140 first before the 5th can be 160
Higher than 120*
Some adjusting to the formation and 140 shem worked (daimon still carrying the team tho lmao)
i put in a lyca and silvina in the front row and now i've passed it!!
Now they guys, returning to the game after 2 years and could do with some help with knowing what’s the best campaign line up to get back into it. Any suggestions?
Good job!!
@vivid vigil Yeah daimon is just a better monster than her mother and father combined.
Agreed
For your front line you can try Brutus and lucius or grezhul
Even khasos
And rowan can tank some damage if youre blocked ona level
Shemira is good on almost every position of the backline in my opinion
But im a bit disapointed in lyca
Shes only good when she have a faction advantage ( no even evey time tho )
Rain is pretty good on backline down
*raine
How do I beat this stage ? Vedan's ult one shots me
What can I use to defeat this team
Need lineup tips on this one. Stuck for ages. Please @ me
Hi I am just starting out today, can anyone help me put a team together plz?
@fair void how much you spend $$ my guy
cash?
I got lucretia and I’m F2P
i did not spent any real life money, butt i have done a few rerolls
@outer notch
There xD, but I thought this team was good cuz I heard the only bad thing in it was shemira and that I would need to replace her late game xD, (Chapter 33 said that not me lel)
What’s best for me right now comp wise
Who should I add to my team
Arden is good in early
I
Help
Lucius is weak hero with inconsistent healing and that does no damage. Level up Arden instead—he's your best until lvl 160
I dint have enough recourses to lvl up my heroes to 70 or 80
Stuck on 20-12, got enough dust to level another to lvl 200 but not sure who to pick. I can get sort of close to beating the level if Lucius survives long enough to ult, but not close enough that retrying a bunch will do it
Hi everyone! I’m really bad at PvP so I’d like to ask a few recommendations for a lineup please!
Try to switch lucius and brutus and put belinda instead of tasi
for some reason, faerael always fears the bottom tank, so lucius gets feared, heals himself and blessed shields, then isabella just drains it all and sweeps the team. Just tried it there a couple times on 4x speed, it didnt go well :c
With your original formation try tasi on frontline and lucius (or brutus) in backline botom
best lineup for every pve?
Is this doable? I must use Wilders here, and I have much higher power, but the 2 assassin lady kills me in no time
Ok, so I can't kill Athalia fast enough, any idea how can I pass this? Thanks in advance
Tips guys?
swap arden and rosaline arden shouldn't be front-row but mostly I think you should use the gift codes because it seems like you have litteraly nothing
lyca instead of nara and swap thoran and brutus I think
Hard stuck haha
Help pls
could anyone help.. this vedan is just wiping me
Hey guys I've been stuck, could someone help me with my best team/lineup
Help plz
What comp revolved around Saurus would you advise me to use?
For now i'm using Rowan Talene Saurus Eironn Tasi/Lyca
Also should I put Eironn or Lyca A when I have the fodder?
Needle girl is always messing me up. Can someone help please?
Needle girl?
Need help. Current lineup is Daimon, PoP, Arden, Lyca, lasi. Just seeing if I can do something better atm
The one in the middle
Athalia
Ferael can sometimes tank/dodge her a bit. Otherwise try with Brutus in front of her
I think your lineup is good. Brutus can also help sometimes
any tips on how I can pass this?
can anyone advise how to pass this.. the vedan is a problem
Get a eironn mercenary
Rowan thoran daimon brutus lyca in that order
@wind hamlet Lucius talene daimon rowan prince persia in thag order
@long flower lucius talene ainz rowan prince in that order. Put luci in crystal
@fair void get wukong by sharing twice and lvl him to 100
@digital skiff it will work ??
Need help. Been stuck for awhile, need a team/lineup
@digital skiff its chapter 13 so can I use the comp you told me to defeat entire chapter
Can't say 100% but should go well
My heros are level 140 btw going to try it right now
Anyone have anything for my characters for my best team/lineup
Needs hook on mehira, with athalia or nara, ainz arthur top
Can I get some help with this?
What's the enemy look like
I managed to beat the stage i was on but ive got 9-40 coming up soon
pls help, anyone
Retry a few times and see if it works with luck, put the artifact on Lucius
I'm mainly curious as to what my best team to run right now would be
Get brutus in crystal, then
Nemora
Brutus
Rowan
Prince
Safiya or morael
Which artifact??
got it
Can I get some help with this pls
I know there's a lot of people in here so just when you get a chance ch 25
thx @digital skiff
Grace on Lucius @long flower
Main goal is to get mirael to legendary+ @minor whale
u da best
Right but what should my team comp be overall? Plus the mirael is borrowed unfortunately
@digital skiff what artifact should I put on the other I will send my artifact list in a min
@digital skiff my lucius is elite + btw bro
@languid verge welcome
@minor whale you got a e+ mirael and food, get her to legendary fast and anything will work with her
@long flower
Call on ainz, grace on luci
And on the other ??
You have a brutus? E+ luci kinda sucks
Help?
stuck again, just tryna get to snd beat 8-40
Drape on rowan
What is food?
idk
nor do i
I got no brutus
So
- Lucius
- brutus
3)shemira - nemora
- prince persia or morael
Fodder heroes you use to get others up
@digital skiff help?
Ah, the only reason id ignored mirael is because she's not on the tier lists and before I knew this discord existed thats what I used to make teams
1)torne
2)ghrez
3) oden
4)silas
5) thoran
If that works
@Defonotaperson#2330
didnt work, lucius and prince have the celestial bond
No problem absolutely she's easy to get
Then scratch prince and use morael in his stead
tried that
So I know Tasi, Tareal (the fire chick) and lyca are good, could I run Lucia's with them +mirael or would I want a different front liner
Then prince instead of luci and morael
got it, who to replace luci?
Prince
@digital skiff it should be in this order??
ok
Yes if it works, could switch around with replacing prince persia with morael or belinda and see whatever works
sadly it didint work, dammit
@digital skiff not working bro
Can you lvl some more?
Hmm.. did you try switching morael for prince
nope, out of xp
@digital skiff yep
Does mirael kill you
@digital skiff yesss
No exp piles or things?
@long flower hmm, could try peggy instead of Lucius
Okay but I tried him before she die instantly but going agaij
nope
Actually, replace ainz with daimon and see if it works
Check this video out going to try the daimon
Actually, try rowan luci ainz daimon peggy
Put them in that order
Make sure to have drape on rowan, grace on lucius and call on ainz
ok i just enhanced some gear, lets see how this goes
I do no damage to em
nope, died again :,(
This tbh doesn't look bad, maybe needs enough retries
Try and see if talene does better then luci there, while giving daimon grace
In which comp ???
In this varient
Nah all the other hero drop instantly
Yo put antandra in crystal, she could possibly tank
help pleeeaaaassssse
Daimon
Try shemira instead of safi
ok
Instant drop
also i can get L shemira but i have two e+’s of her so im waiting for another graveborn e+
Did you try the gift codes?
it isn't enough :(
@digital skiff what can I use to defeat these ??
I’ve tried SO many different things, any advice would really help :)
Replace daimon with rowan, put call on rowan and swap prince with either luci or peggy or let him stay, whichever works
Luci talene daimon rowan ghrez/tasi/shemira, put them in that order
I feel like I just need to get rid of numisu but it’s so hard to
@frail osprey try this if it works
Just tried all 3 like 5 times each, closest with grez but still didn’t work
@frail osprey help
Add call on rowan and daimon tho
Replace ghrez with eironn then
Still didn’t work, should I try replacing gre with eironn
LOLLL right as I was typing that Lmao
My network is trash

Hmmm, honestly this doesn't seem doable
Yep was just thinking that, oh not me
this still doesn't work because of the deficit, any ideas?
Daimon dying a lot faster now, should I try drape or Grace instead of call
Luci dies or daimon dies first
And put daimon in middle otherwise he'll get charmed
Can you swap nara for eironn?
So question, just got back into the game I’m like barley mid-gam since I’m at stage 20 in campaign, specifically I’m getting stuck on stage 20.5, could y’all help me with a line up to progress?
Show your stage so we can see if we can help
Okay just wanted to make sure I could ask here and it wasn’t just for the tower
Here’s the stage
Pretty sure I built the wrong toons at first, just because I liked how some looked and could progress without issue
Luci dies first, putting daimon in middle now
this one is Insta lose, do I put daimon back ? @digital skiff
Put talene where luci is, and rowan where talene was, and put luci where rowan is
So talene rowan luci daimon eironn@frail osprey
nope :(
get good boots on nara itll stop ardens reflect shield tip also ferael is a no go at gaps vs tasi itll proc her teleport tons and team wipe
The enemy tasi
you could try that, or put back ferael in place o lyca and try that too(changing ferael vs tasi places to try to fear arden if he cant fear nemora)
@shell swallow @storm epoch thank you guys so much!!!!!!!! That formation worked with tasi in place of nara! I really appreciate the help I was stuck there for over a day 😅
@frail osprey aye did you redeem codes?
Help anyone? Stuck
the prince of Persia and the other one? yep!
All of them?
What is a good defense against this guys lineups?
Mirael midback and swap antandra with brutus
Defense?
For legends challenger tournament
Wait ch18 in lct?
Best bet is to make 2 strong teams with your top two teams as his main formation is daimon
His team 1,3 are trash
Let me show you how the battles to take his spot went
So you know my lineups
Good enough or nah?
I believe so, will try them all again now just to be sure
Anyone can help?
show hero box
for now lyca daimon tasi pippa nara
More CC would be nice for you. Try with PoP, perhats
Also I would not use Talene here.
lol, i try that for a while now xD he dies too fast, ainz needs a bit more time to do his thing
Help
Finally got it with this lineup @digital skiff thanks for all the help :)
Who do y’all recommend investing in and how do I set up a strong formation?
Continue to level Wu Kong manually up until hero level 100, also read the pinned guides here and in #classic-questions for more info.
Any tips? I'm hard stuck
@vale star usually, you have to pull that safiya to cancel the mantra buff. Try nara or smthing
Any tips?
@smoky anvil try
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
Talene
Lyca
what could I do lineup-wise to beat this? or am I just too weak?
unfortunately that doesn't really work, talene dies fast and then warek goes for daimon and one shots him (warek's the boss)
Swap rowan daimon then @smoky anvil
I think I'll put lyca in front and switch talene for ferael, belinda one shots daimon with ult
You can use fawkes I guess or tasi instead of talene
Can i get some help?
Same please 
Weird, lol. How come there's no ascended tier heroes l+ yet? Do you have a right wishlist? @balmy hinge
@mortal sable you are going wrong with your heroes. Should not make useless heroes l or l+ mythic etc
Ye i guess just got a bird and Isabella
Well, if you farm then do only 3x 10 pulls, it's a guaranteed elite at 3 pulls in a row
Isabella shouldn't be yet in your wishlist
Its not
And how did you get her then?
. Is your wishlist full?
Well, she's good only with high investment, so not the case to build isa
Build daimon from gb, I guess.
My wl
Well, chicken is good later, ascended Only. Numitsu also later. I would put safiya there tbh. Replace Isabella with ferael, and maybe eluard with Gwyneth.
But also, get one fawkes copy, he's very useful
Fawkes nara Brutus need one elite I guess, for some stages
Numistu is healer mask guy right?
<- numisu
Ye healer mask guy
Yeah, but he's not a priority to ascend, until later. There's 5 maulers better than numitsu, 5 at least
So my wilders r okay?
I guess so, there's raku also, but I dont think that he's better for you, at least for now
Oh okay
After you ascend something you can add raku
So what about this
It's hard bcs you are lacking a dps at all. Rowan is good middle, prince can Frontline with Hogan, so Backline should be Cecilia vs mirael, rowan middle and maybe some hypogean to get 30% def more
Okay
can anyone help?
Thanks i won
I guess that wukong is overlvled, I would reset all the heroes to 100,maybe some to 80,then make Hogan 120 and link prince of Persia with him
Forget about wukong, he's low from now on. You can unlink, just costs you 300 diam
ok
If you reset all to 100,hogan should get close to 120,then keep lvling Hogan until expire the prince trial
hogan is already 120, how do i unlink though?
From temple of ascension, go to prince page
Aha, you can get some dust back if reset to 100 nemora and shem
To go past 120 with Hogan, it needs some dust I guess
no, all heros on pentagram gotta be lvl 100
Ah, right
i have dust, somehow
Well, now try to see if prince of Persia can do any magical moves there.
ok
Haven't used yet the prince, but all the dims are op early game
who else with though?
Well, rowan is good Backline for support, nemora also. Front maybe prince and Brutus, and the last one Backline can be the celestial girl, the trial one
:O
Help?
didnt work, i gotta get brutus to 100 first, but i dont got xp
i only have 4 over 100 cuz i got hogan to 120
i can reset him and get brutus to 100
Lemme see
If he can, then put Cecilia vs saveas @balmy hinge
@languid verge lyca is good as support too
Wait the flip i just won
ok but do i reset hogan and get brutus up, but still have hogan a good level?
Keep Hogan, you need the prince overlevd. Just remove numitsu from crystal and put Brutus there, lvl 80 is fine
ok
Help?
wait, i killed everyone and it keeps saying i lost, what
lol
@patent hemlock I would try
Lyca
Brutus
Daimon
Rowan
Tasi/nemora
Or nara to pull safiya and daimon back down
No nara, but I’ll try what you recommended! @brave oriole
She doesn't have to be ascended, elite is okay
I don’t even have her 😬
I would get one
Nvm I’m a liar I do lol
I’ll try her out now, just have to put her on the crystal!
She's very useful as elite vs mehira spcly
Where should I be placing her?
To pull safiya, so middle
Gotcha, replacing tasi?
Yeah, and put daimon back of rowan
Rowan should be okay vs skreg, but try out chalice and dura's grace artifacts, see what's better for rowan, call daimon, nara eye
Might not work, not even a matter one rng, everyone’s just dying super fast. I’ll keep trying!
Help?
Maybe instead of lyca, can be used fawkes, to remove ferael @patent hemlock
Aha, get the dodge gear t2
Yeah I’ve been waiting for those t2 stones haha
Well, I'm buying stones from guild shop
this is very frustrating
Move nemora down, maybe you can charm something useful
ok
!! had to keep call on rowan instead of chalice, worked well with fawkes getting rid of fearel. Thank you!
Np
didnt work for me :(
Help?
@languid verge put the prince down, looks like rowan is dying insta by silvina, try a lower mage instead of safiya, a lvl 1 or so
@balmy hinge hey man, try something. Reset something to 120,and push silvina to 160
OkY
Wait the only thing 120 r the fodders so they become lvl 6 as soon i reset something
After you reset a hero, lvl back to 120 manual
Oh okay
Just stop at 120 instead of 140
i lost
What team are you using atm?
wait, i did something and i won
tysm 4 the help, it really means a lot, thankyou :)
all i have left is 7-40, thats the next hard part
8,should be okay with the prince
got it, im trying it now, i have reinforcements from friends in an hour so if this doesnt work ill try then
ok i won
About to finish 27 😳 any ideas here?
Gonna try a couple different comps from afkhelper actually!
Seav keeps killing prince 
Put Cecilia vs saveas
So prince won't get a lot of dmg
@Stinker (27-52)#3566 as usual, nara to pull mehira, rowan and Brutus front, then Backline daimon nara ferael?
Alr i won thanks
Oof, this ones a toughie.
So is it two tanks up front, 1 healer, 1 DPS, and then an extra slot for fill? Also since I have Rowan does he fill my healer slot, or is he in the fill slot, or am I all bassackwards?
She’s only at e+, that fine?
Sorry, brand new and haven't played any similar games.
Help?
This is my first time doing an abyssal expedition. I’ve looked at some guides and they all recommend celerity heroes. While I’ve got a few ascended heroes, the only “max out” hero I have is Ainz. My Ainz is my only +30 SI, maxed furniture, maxed item hero. While most of my celerity heroes have +0 SI, +3 furniture, and not maxed items. With this in mind, should I focus on the sorcery tree or the celerity tree? Thank you!
No, it's a tank, a carry, and three supports. But depending on the stage, this may change.
Hey all. What you think should I do as line up for early game? I’m at chapter 10 now and I run shemira and rowen front and Silas, fereal and Gwyneth back. Is lucreatia or talen worth without dupes? I got a bit lucky and pulled both. And I know I won’t do another legendary when I can’t do l+ I need the fodder for mythic 😊. Thy so far
@proven gulch the ascensions and etc etc, only have an impact on the beginning. Once you are getting relics for celerity, it will get much better. So when you start use what ever is stronger, then when they run out of stamina replace with celerity, bcs until tomorrow you will get a few relics already
That's good, yeah, sometimes you will have to figure out by yourself what to adjust @patent hemlock
Hey that makes a lot of sense @brave oriole I’ll start out with Ainz to help me clear early camps and then focus on the celerity tree. Thank you!
@proven gulch just push only celerity until 4.4
For the quest, then you catch with the rest
🙏
for celerity teams in AE, what should i fill in the slots with? i already used up my initial stam and am setting up the celerity teams now.
Twins
What should I do
Getting absolutely wrecked. Help please
you're way too early to frontline rowan. show full box
You mean my roster? I have one resonance slot left so I can raise the level of another unit
@summer cedar
try putting hogan in crystal. then run lucius hogan rowan mirael rosa. btw u shud be putting all levels into mirael - rosa can wait. if rosa isn't living long enough to ult, use lyca instead
I was trying to get all to 100 to unlock a new slot. Will try the comp you suggested.
both Hogan and Lucius got killed instantly
Was running them in this order
just need levels then. I was hoping u had a brutus or thoran or even talene but u don't. could also try mirroring the comp but otherwise it's just a level problem
Ran out of hero exp so was hoping I could solve it by changing the line up. Guess Ill have to afk for a while then
estrilda and golus interrupt and stun everyone and prince stuns dont open anything for mirael to do
Can I get some help, struggling to pass this stage
Does anyone have any ideas?
Put eironn in front of the vampire dude
I hate to he that guy but its this stage now
reset shem. read the pins in #classic-questions. run wukong.
I dont have wukong so what now.
Didn't work, my units might just need upgraded more i guess.
The share button isnt showing up. Is it because im using bluestacks?
Any suggestions? Literally one vedan from making an l+ niru for union and then using for m+ daimon and also 2 summons from the gold emblems for si20 on daimon.
How do i beat this?
I'm pretty sure you just have to nuke them all down in one shot or your gonna be tearing your hair out lol
did u follow what the video showed?
Yeah i got it now
So what should I do?
read the pins in #classic-questions soon. lots of helpful info for progress.
for now reset shemira and eluard since u only need to level 5 heroes. instead level wu as high as possible. team will look like brutus wu arden rowan nara
Who is arden
blue border. old mage dude with a long beard. if u prefer u can try ferael, this last slot is kinda flexible
Oh ok
Early on you want to level 5 blue heroes to 160 first
Why blue heroes? arent their stats lower than purples?
They're easy to ascend to legendary + and all heroes on the rotating crystal will have the same level as lowest hero
OH
So if you had any 5 level blue hereos at like 160/140/140/140/140 everything on it would be 140 even if it's not ascended high enough for it
Thats actually so smart 😮
Furthermore you need l+ fodder to make heroes mythic anyways so it doesn't hurt to make them
And while they do have lower stats unless your talking heroes which have a bast difference skill wise sometimes having the higher ascension hero will just give you more stats because we'll they're a higher tier
So brutus and wu in from then rowan in back mid and arden and nara spots dont matter right?
pretty much
What do people recommend I do here?
any one have line up of chasmic altar?
Hey guys im using wukong as my team carry atm, i heard this guy is very good mid-late game... should i invest now or continue using wukong??
Im new btw
he's not good. read the pins in #classic-questions
@pale kettle try daimon for talene, shes pretty much useless at that point with your ascendeds
Thanks! Barely worked tho
Can I get some help? I don’t know why the hell this floor is so hard.
@nimble fossil post your box as well
Try
Farael
Lyca
Eironn
rowan
Saf
What's the issue
@nimble fossil watch the replay and see what happens
I know I just used ainz comp for that stage
Which replay?
Of the fight, do it again than click on the bottom right and watch the fight
im stuck on chapter 14-40, my team gets one shotted need some help
any help another mehira stage 😭😭😭
Getting a bit stuck here. These GB guys are usually pretty hard since most of my investment is in LB heroes. Any meaningful lineup changes that could help? Most of my gear isn't super high level either so maybe I can level those a bit.
Lastly does Tasi always banish at the start? I find most of the time I don't see a banish going off but usually when I run Fawkes or Nara they always cc first
@nimble fossil what happens in the replay, maybe having eironn pull those 3 isnt good, try him as a front man than ser
How can I make this team stronger? Cecilia is a god in that mode
Why'd you use that ping? And show the stage so we can actually help you
Doesnt do anything XD
@wicked otter we need to know your units
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No help for losers, no
We dont know who you have to make a team with
LMAO

Pls answer and help.
@vapid garden maybe cecil front and rowan mid?

Thanks whoever did that
🗑️⛹️ teemo takin out the trash

Was gonna tag mods too, he couldn't answer a simple question smh
Pls help, how do I make this team survive longer, with a borrowed hero max is 13m for me
rowan ig
@vapid garden
What do I use on the chasmic altar?
@pale kettle check #classic-questions was just posted
@safe ridge sounds good thank you
Also, why is saveas still in the crystal?
can anyone advise how i can beat this (i got 1 more empty slot in crystal if need to add someone in)
Show me the stage
Try front: brutus wukong
Back: ferael (crystal) rowan rosaline
I won, Thanks 🙂
Np
Any ideas? That Gorvo is crushing me
Seeing that you have eironn let him pull Isabella
So I guess replace chicken for eironn
Place rowan front instead of talene
Do you have weapon on Ferael?
I have Si10 on him. Didn't ascend him til recently so a bit behind with him
Thats fine. Are you running a Mythic weapon on him?
Yeah T2. Not graveborn tho
Try removing that so that Ferael fears first
Other then that you'll just have to rely on rng (as long as Nara interrupts Mehria)
a lot of the end of 29 is like that.
So just no weapon? Or like no gear at all
Just no weapon
Ferael weapon provides extra haste which messes up the order of his skills by doing his normal attack first. By removing weapon it allows Ferael to do his fear attack first instead of normal
Ehh, if you have 9/9 ainz. I can show you my clears, too bad you dont 
I find most players <30 dont have Ainz 9f

Mines only 6/9 lol
If you have 3 cards hes worth carding at that point even if you dont have 2 categories full yet
Yeah Daimon can shred against Mehira
Still not usually ideal to 5 pull Mehira lmao
Help
Yeah still nowhere close lol. I'll just wait to merc something
Thanks
Help pls
Use your normal comp but use Nara to pull Ferael. Should work
Tasi instead of Peggy and Pop instead of Lucretia perhaps?
Didn't work
Well, he pulls Isabella at the start of the fight, and she wipes my whole team expect Daimon in a second. But somehow Daimon managed to win the stage on second try, lmao.
You scared me for a second but that's nice
Well, I replied ~3h later, but wanted you to know that I got through it thanks to you 
what do i do here? I feel like I kinda messed up my account 
Is my team comp decent? Im new. I will replace Moreael with mirael after the rental expires
Brutus luci ainz rowan lyca. Or brutus Lucius nemora rowan ainz, but more rng
Didn't work
Brutus Lucius belinda Rowan Arden
Any idea how to beat this
Daimon ,Arden, mirael, prince and brutus imo
Hogan brutus daimon rowan lyca. I'm unclear how well Daimon works pre-SI but since mirael isnt over leveled...
Mirael worked really well for me on that stage so if he can over level her he should be good
I need help with this one that saveas shreds any hero I put in front of him
Thanks, the Hogan Brutus worked.
Stuck
Brutus lucius ainz rowan. Merc fera. You have WAY too many L heroes
Lucy,Brutus, Nara, Rowan and Ainz maybe?
Stuck here need some help with my lineup or possible swaps
Got a pic of the whole roster?
could anyone help me with this please
Talene, Prince, Daimon, Rowan and Ferael?
Can anyone help me with a decent lineup (specially for PVE)? I'm back to the game after more than a year and idk what to do
Also have Rowan, Skreg and Warek, but only at Elit
rowan and daimon in front?
No Talene and Prince in front, Daimon , Rowan and Ferael back
lemme try that
Maybe try Brutus, Joker, Eironn, Rowan, Daimon??
prince dies too quickly
Ya I feared that... at my alt account which is at early stages he's crap....
swap prince and daimon's positions??
yea i did that but dont rly work out
Daimon gets shredded :(
closest i got was rowan daimon front
Oh wow... I am sorry both of you... 😦
oh bless clutched it
Nice 👍🏻
Swell!
no worries! thank you both :)
hi just played is this alright for the initial pull or should i reroll ? also what team can i make of this?
Daimon & Rowan are amazing
that looks pretty good for your initial pull
ok any team suggestion ? i have 0 idea atm lol so many unit
I just need a nudge on this stage because I'm basically rocketing through this chapter with trial Morael
I need help on this level
brutus wu daimon rowan lyca. STOP MAKING L+
So my current setup is
Ferael
Izold
Rowan
?????
Silas
From my box who do y’all recommend working on to fill that slot?
Or should I move around the guys I currently have?
Can anyone help me with this? 
Any tips? I dont have strong enough tank to survive long enoughgrinning i should probably only wait to lvl up morr heroes to 121 right?
I still need help
Sorry I've been working, here it is, im new so my options are limited
Reminder of the stage
Updated roster
try prince rowan daimon nara tasi and see who tasi banishes
(preferably the saf)
also what gear lvl does prince get with that trial?
put mirale in p4 and bring more CC like tasi and arden
also stop making ascended tier heroes to legendary
I've been trying a few combos for this and have had issues.
try nara instead of cecilia and princd for belinda
the rest should be fine
u also really want daimon to +20 as soon as possible
Got it! Thanks!
Can i get some help

no brutus?
Nope 😔
pls help...
Not arguing but what's the reason? I'm fairly new so i wasn't aware it was a bad thing
try hogan daimon arden rowan tasi
Wich of these one should I get evolved to legendary?
These are my champs rn
I m trying to main daimon but had no luck with the summons
mirael ult does more dmg when the heroes it hit are in the middle of the cone:
also cc is just too good in this game and manipulating it to the best degree enables u to overcome level deficits
as for the A heroes to L just read the pins in #classic-questions to get whh
mirael
:
guides in #classic-questions will do u good
Alright. Thanks !
Any chance someone has a Daimon that can carry me through Ancient ruins?
any ideas ?
Still kind of stuck, might just be under-leveled though
any help? been stuck here all day
Daimon
Brutus
Eironn
Rowan
Tasi
@frail osprey
ty ur the goat i will try now
very fast loss, will do like 10 more tries tho
If Eironn cant ult, dont bother.
rip
Who does Silvana go onto?
Rowan
Rowan talene albedo Ainz jokers
Not a single kill
Try again.
Do like 10 tries
You're getting to the point where you need to just try a few times because of rng
Doesn't work after 10 times
Can anyone help me with a decent lineup (specially for PVE)? I'm back to the game after more than a year and idk what to do
Also have Rowan, Skreg and Warek, but only at Elit
Where should I put Ferael? My tasi is strong enough to live and ult in front of Ezizh, but the problem is Safiya. 90% of the time she's the one killing everyone
swap ferael and daimon
Ty that does sorta work lol. Like I can live for a while but then my team gets wiped immediately. Probably gonna wait
that's pretty much how 60 goes
@main orbit post it here
I did the level now guess ainz tank with pop behind him does the work, any1 else dies tho, thx for advice
Man I'm 1 stage away from farming t3 stones lol
Stuck here
Any tip
Stuck here at 10-40, just getting demolished
Anyone know
Can tasi RNG a Ult at Daimon's place?
Ill try it now she usually cant last that long
A good Tasi ult should be enough for Ainz to kill everything but yeah Tasi survivability is kinda bad earlygame
Nope she cant
Sorry to bother you, any tips for my situation
Your strategy ia way off right now.
You need a overleveled carry. Right your best option is Belinda. Make her AT LEAST 20 levels above the rest. Reset other heroes if needed.
E Daimon can kinda work, but E shemira and E silvina are just wasted spots in your team.
I suggest a team built around supporting and tanking for you oveleveled belinda. Talene, Lyca, Silas, Thoran, Tasi, Rosalina, even that L+ lucius should all help you reach your goal
Thanks, so for a specific lineup would Lucius, and Talene front row with Tasi, Rosalina and Belinda back row work?
If your Belinda is overleveled enough she can frontline.
Depends on your level deficit, but i think Belinda Talene Lucius Silas Lyca should do the job for now. I am not a early game expert tho hahaha.
Read the pinned messages at #questions
Ok
Tasi cant do her ult should i try moving her @subtle yoke
Once again asking for help
Rowan Brutus Ainz Lyca Fareal
What order?
I'm getting destroyed...used a similar line up on another account 😓
Any way to beat this ?
Help
What can I do to win? Don’t want to use guild troops . Trying to save for 15-40
@atomic cosmos
Belinda
Lucius
Rowan
Skreg
Tasi
Which row for who? @humble apex
Lucius Skreg front, Belinda Rowan Tasi back
Ok I’ll try a few thx
man reset that 160 and use crystals xD
^^
Who is your PoP linked to?
In that case I would link him to Shem or Tasi and replace Tasi
Noooo
I link to berlinda and thought I could use both but I can’t... how do I unlimk?
You would have to pay 100 diamonds but since it’s only a 3 day trial I wouldn’t. Just try using Shemira instead of Belinda and then PoP for Tasi
I would also highly recommend reading the pinned guides in #classic-questions so you don’t make any more mistakes with your ascensions
Bumping this. Used Rowan Brutus Ainz lyca Fareal for about 75 times and no luck
What mistakes have I’ve made with my ascension?
You should be making 5 L+ fodder units instead of A tier heroes. What you have done is pretty much gamble that you will keep pulling copies of the heroes you have already ascended to L+. If you don’t get lucky then your account will get stuck for a long time
Does ferael have a legendary or mythic weapon?
Legendary
@humble apex oh dang ok
Hm, your ferael should be interrupt the enemy ferael then. Only suggestion would be switching lyca and ferael but that’s the same comp I’d run
I get close but can’t get the kill on anything most time
This is what I’ve been using. Switch the Lyca and faraels spots every few attempts
I have no clue why this stage is giving me so many troubles, but it does. Ive tried with Eiron and Daimon, same sups different spots. No luck so far
Belinda just gets her ult and nukes my team
Oh I see you swapped Ainz’s link. If your Tasi and Rowan have enough dodge, I would try
Lyca
Tasi
Ferael
Rowan
Ainz
Daimon
Rowan
Tasi
Brutus
Ferael
I beat it 🙂
Nice. Now make sure you start using your resonating crystal
They don’t. Rowan and Tasi get killed too soon
I’ve flipped Ainz and Rowan and tasi and Lyca and it’s been going better. Lemme try a few
@humble apex what for?
Vandor it worked. Thank you. Fareal for his ult off and bought enough time for Ainz to ult again
You only need to level up 5 heroes. Anything you put on the crystal will be raised to the level of the 5th highest. Any resources you’re putting into other heroes are wasted
Oh ok
Seems like you got it on your own but good job
And you said lvl up 5 fodder to L+?
Well since you already have more than 5 L+ heroes it’s a bit different. Ideally, don’t ascend anything else past e+ unless you have at least 6 copies
Hmm ok
*anything except fodder heroes
@humble apex mind helping me out again?
So upgrade fodders to elite plus only? Until I get 6 copy’s of a unit I want to get to red color? Idk nam of it
Fodders are fine to take to L+
Oh ok
So I got 2 howgan and 1 angelo should I upgrade it to legendary? Or wait until I get another howgan or the other first to get to L+
@remote umbra you should learn how to come up with comps on your own. Look at what unit on the enemy team is dealing the most damage/cc and try to position around them or shut them down (Nara is very useful for this)
I usually just wait till I have 4 e+ fodders
How do you counter Isabella AND Althila at the same time?
Ok thanks
can someone help?
Joker
Brutus/Albedo
Ferael
Arthur
Ainz
If you can swap around gear/furn so that Rosa follows gwyn,
Belinda
Gwyn
Rowan
Rosa
Lucius
My biggest problem rn is that niru heals any damage I do to him and gets kills so quickly
I see you’re putting units in front of him that are hard to kill, but you should try swapping out thoran and/or talene for cc like ferael or Tasi
Actually I just remembered you can cheese that stage
Who would recommend putting in front of him? Tasi?
Brutus
Once you’re running a more standard lineup, afkhelper is super useful to see other people’s clears
how does that cheese work? and do the level 1 characters not matter? like they can be any hero
Don’t remember how it worked but it just did. And yes the lv1s can be anything
alright I'm actually getting kills so it should work
got it, thanks bro
daimon can't ramp without at least SI10. just run eironn at that point at least he offers CC.
get daimon 20 asap.
brutus hogan saveas rowan arden
show entire hero box
copy the comb that works with what u got and piece the missing heroes from this
stop making ascended tier heroes to legendary and show hero box
Currently building this comp. Who should be in the last spot between lyca, tidus and queen?
And is safiya even used here anymore? I keep hearing about her “falling off” .
All are at A with low investment. Tidus just missing a couple of copies. Just wanna know who’s the better pick here so i won’t waste resources on something underwhelming.
try Brutus lucius daimon rowan raku/tasi
and check the pins here and in #classic-questions
Is there any room for improvement in this lineup?
You have a ferael?
A lot
ouch
I have an elite Mirael
But, when I do level her up, where should I add her, along with Baden?
those levels look horrifying
help
I really need help, I'm stuck! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568025210498842633/838532630223912970/image0.png
estrilda wont let any frontline survive, saveas wont either, no time for prince stuns, even one stun and 1 mirael ult doesnt clear
wrong channel
anyone have any clue how tf to beat this last boss before chapter 16 cos it startin to make me mad 🧍♂️
Is this good
@pale kettle yes
I got questions may I ask
Any ideas guys? nothing is working
Can i get some help?
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this is lineup help, not #classic-questions
we help ingame lineup.
setting up formations
Heads up newer players: Afk Helper is gonna be one of your best friends. It can show you formations that real people used to beat any stage, even non boss ones.
im stuck on this 6-12 stuck like step bro what do i do can i talk to anyone to help me get unstuck 😭
Please read the guide in the pinned section of the questions channel. Bc I can already see some bad stuff
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Again, please check out afk helper. More times than not there's a formation you can use and it'll always be useful
Is that on this server?
It's a website. You can Google it
i can help i think
Help getting melted
try mercenary's
Any help for Legends, currently rank 36ish want to try to move up more. Also any idea who to SI next and possible scroll swap
Worst level in the game
Rowan
Izold
Prince
Zombie dog looking guy
Nara
WAIT OH NO IT CHANGES
?
i'm stuck again
Search on yt prince of Persia trial
Place eironn on crystal place rowan front and let eironn pull Isabella
i am stuck
I can pass this or I need to wait for more lvls
I have one position left don’t know what who to use there
Any ideas?
Help
Tried thoran dank cheese, 5 pull, nara on mehira, still dying. Any ideas?
If I see it right I get crushed by the little rat anytime... Tryed many things... Is there a way to get this?
Lucius won't do much
Place rowan on chalice
Try front: rowan lyca back: tasi saurus eironn
I'm making progress but its getting harder and I fear ill struggle with 11-40, any tips on my lineup/team selections?
Hendrick ghrez prince Isabella Rosaline
Pls help
Try swapping shemira for nara
Rowan midback
Try lyca over arden here
Check afkguide site
Try rowan gwyn fawkes backline
Backline fera lyca daimon mbe
Brutus Lucius daimon rowan lyca
Halp a brother out bobby schmurda! @summer cedar
Brutus Lucius daimon rowan tasi
Am I supposed to see something?
Can someone help, once I hear this stage I can get a lot of stuff
Vedan is just so annoying in his bats and healing. I need like 1400 more dust for Silas and he gets heal reduction, but it’s gonna take forever
Thank you, but this lineup is melting also 😦
Best ranger comps for Zaph in AE?
Can anyone help me with a decent lineup (specially for PVE, campaign)? I'm back to the game after more than a year and idk what to do
Please, idk which one I should focus on
Any ideas how to beat that? I basically get destroyed within a few seconds.
Daimon sometimes ult 2-3 times, but usually dies before. :/
I can Merc a hero if necessary
Here for instance Daimon ult 3 times, Tasi once. One of my best runs so far on this level
I died in 28 seconds. A record, usually it's rather 15 😅💀
Really dont know how to beat that. So any advices are appreciated
Also Tasi does not banish any one and I don't know why
can u show full box, im not the best at campaign but i will try lmao, might be better to use ainz over tasi
swap ferael and arthur places, ainz over tasi then place ainz in 5 and daimon in 3, the merc ainz
So in order Ferael Arthur Ainz Rowan Daimon?
daimon rowan ainz, ainz behind arthur
It worked
Lol. 2 tries with your lineup and it passed 😎👌
To understand: why did you come up with this? What was the logic behind it? 🙃
Halp please
from personal experience, daimon needs another carry with him when against a warek in midgame, other than that i was just going off people saying its a viable option in midgame
Aina behind Arthur was for a particular reason?
arthur raises crit rating for anyone behind him within a certain range, theres like a blue triangle behind him anyone in that gets crit rating buff
Clear. Thanks :)
could try five pull with thoran, although lucius shields might fuck it up
skriath
rowan
erionn
thoran
ferael
Rip Belinda destroys me
Lucius should work, I think. @mild wind just put the tanks in the back and DPS and potentially Estrilda in the front
Yeah, I've been trying that but frontline dps is dying first anyway

