#lineup-help
1 messages · Page 610 of 1
i linked shemira with ainz would that change anything?
Still miraels a better option then a mythic ainz for your progression
Hey guys I began the game like around 3 days ago and had a couple of questions on what to focus on. I’m currently in Chapter 8-12.
i tried using mirael as a carry but she just died instantly
After you hit the 160 cap, then I'd suggest going for m shemira or others but now's a bit early
That’s where I am!
Assuming you've read the pins in #classic-questions , ask away.
those are my characters
Best thing to do now first is #classic-questions , go there and read pins and then ask anything you don't understand
Reset shemira and lvl mirael upto all you can
hmm
i dint think i’ll be able to do much for leveling her up since i need shemira to be atleast 120 on the resonating crystal for the extra level cap
How are you 3 days in?? You have 3 legendary champs already? I have none lol, stuck on elite+
Well getting L 4 skill heroes isn't exactly something to emulate
there was the 100 free rolls event, and ive been no lifing. it might be a lil over 3 days prob 5 i dont remeber too much
Swap places with rowan and saurus since he'll get fac advantage
Get everyone to 120 and mass power mirael
alrr imma try thanks lad
Hi, who should I use for 14-40?
Is Angelo worth using early as a healer?
Too many carries
no, angelo just isnt good unless u need to increase level cap from 140
I see, should i take Izold to L+ or Shamira to mythic when ill be able to?
None of that, actually you need to remove shemira
I kept reading I should use her until lvl 260
So what should be my next step? I can use her as a fodder
no
Hey Guys im stuck at this stage for 3 Days now dont know what to do any more its the 827 acc
Any sugestions myb
Eironn in feraels face and talene in place of brutus, and brutus in ainzs place
Lyca instead of ezio
Ok that combination i didnt try till now thnx Will upadate u iff it worked 👍
Sorry for asking so many n00b questions but I think I’m finally starting to understand the early game. Does this sound like a good starting team? Trying to get at least one of each faction to tier up to 160 fastest
Frontline: Hogan Niru
Back line: Mirael Arden Ankira
so i did what you told me and im closer to beating the part im stuck in but im still dying are there any specific supports i should use?
Miraels at what lvl tho
You wnt mirael in the back middle
mirael is good but everyone else no, u dont have to use the heroes u manually level up, just place the betters ones in crystal and use them
Mirael in the back middle is a must 99% of the times. Arden in the back too. You can switch between Brutus hogan thoran etc for front. And rowan or talene as support
Can i see the enemies again?
Best teams for this?
Kek it posted 4 times
Please get pic from your heroes tab as that makes it easier
Swap places with rowan and rosa, do you have a brutus?
i died even faster
Kek then swap Lucius for Thoran and throw rowan away for luci
i put dura’s call on mirael and it slightly improved but the enemies on the top back and bottom back were still alive
Swap Rosaline with safiya
both thoran and safiya made my mirael insta die
Yikes what kills you
Hmm, he's tricky to deal with since we don't have any assassin's or like good supports
i can try using zephrael to act as a distraction
and try getting mortes and lyca for the haste?
Here
What happens if u put rosaline in front of sav
rosaline would just go to ur strongest character to heal them
But would she tank a hit
Any broken team comp i should build/ start building towards ?
Quite a few
depends in the level difference
but she’d prob get 2 tapped
Ainz albedo, thoran cheese, izold cheese, luc cheese... Just 🧀
And with what i have rn, what's the best i can build in the near future
Raku
Raku sliding into that meta
Lyca daimon belinda talene raine, rosa eironn rowan ghrez respen maybe? Not many choices to take from unfortunately
A month from now people are gonna be saying "how come u don't have raku +30 5 star ascended"
Any advice for this stage tho ?
They have estrilda and rosa
Rosa i did, estrilda elite 
She should still buff, right?
Wait estrilda buffs?
Yeah lol

Attack rating for whole team
The more you know

am still stuck can someone help, i tried nara in the center but didn't work
Stuck help me
Brutus instead of Lucius maybe
Who is ghrez?
Ghrezul
Brutus instead of luci
Still getting shredded
Damn you is kinda high leveled for that tho, probably needs a albedo
Ditch ainz and try eironn comp lol
How does Rowan where Brutus is and lyca where Rowan was perform
i'll try
What line up should I use and what artifacts
ainz gets to survive and ult, still fail but better than before. lot better
Tasi Rowan lyca eironn ferael
But eironns +10
And for artifacts I'm not sure. You want call on Rowan and eye on everything else if you don't have class specific artifacts
kinda almost got it
Ah crap true
My Lyca and ferael are not high though
Rng rng rng
Stop building shemi and get Rowan to +30 and then eironn to +30
Ye I stopped building shemira
Wait distract gorvo
how can i make ainz survive, i need the 9f effect
So lyca front line with albedo in corner behind her
Albedo Arthur
True
if i had arthur lol
Whats your crystal @fleet thistle?
I wanna see how far I am from reaching you
286
Mehira heals can be painful
87 now ig lol
Well, I'm 255, I just wait until I have stavked dust for 5 lvls at a time
not working rip, worse than before
interrupted mehira maybe, if you haven't tried already
yeah i did
What happens?
Griffy you think it is possible with the heroes I got now
the distraction kinda works but my albedo is prob too weak
Possible, yes. Kinda interesting tho
Can you send a ss
Hey people, newbie here. I got as far as i could with a level 100 Wukong as a carry with some extras as the starter guide told me, but now that i am starting to struggle (stage 7-28) i wanted help to create a proper team with the heroes i pulled so far.
So out of the heroes i have there, who should i set on the Resonating Crystal to form a good team? I only have 5 slots so far, but i could get the Diamonds to get one or two more easily if its necessary.
idk if i understood well tho, i'll send a ss
You need to control sav since tanking him is hard
Hmm so have you tried Rowan lyca ainz nara albedo?
not with lyca
Try to get mirael L+
well that's better
Will do, but what about the rest of the team? Tank, support, healer and all that stuff?
First prio is mirael L+ and then saveas Silvina arden to L+
Then another L+ fodder unit
The comp could be mirael brutus talene arden lyca
rip still can't get it
+10 eironn ftw
Yeah lol
Oof... Yeah idk how to make it better other than +30 albedo
rip
Maybe swap out albedo or something
You have a 203 lyca?
i have 304 reds
203?
+20 3f
yes
Try swapping albedo out for a buffer like estrilda
m+ estrilda si 1 good?
Si doesn't matter so yeah
Or numisu/lorsan (numisu is haste and distraction, lorsan is damage)
artifact eye?
Artifact whatever makes her survive... She needs to use her attack buff skill
Chalice should work
Hmm... Try numisu and lorsan? Then maybe ferael. Try playing around with that last hero slot and see what works
I think u need control and I'm not sure why u don't have tasi
let's not talk about that 
i didn't get 3 dimensionals to build shem
lorsan instantly dies so i'll try numis
ok trying a bit ferael probably is the one working better
Can you guys give me 2 line ups including artifacts
try to copy the best in your server
Anyone :/
Need some help with 7-36
Hey people, i decided that i want to make a Graveborn team since I got Shemira, Thoran, Nara, Silas, Oden, Izoid, Torne and Daimon, so who should i put on a team?
need help for chapter 13-36
Anyone got a recommendation to optimize my teams to use for chasmic altar?
Help
Any suggestions for a good lineup?
Help
Merc either lucretia or a +30 thoran
Silly question, but I just got mortas and I wanted to know what’s a good comp to work around him for wrizz and tr?
What team should I use?
She’s really good, carried me through a lot of stages.
Put arden on your crystal
Ainz frontline?
Put him in mehiras place and put Brutus on his
I tried that
Put rowan in there instead of mehira
Hi how can i win this level ? i can replace a character in my team with anyone (without darkness, celestial and cosmic)
Take out all of those graveborns
??
Ainz, Albedo, Rowan, Thoran, Lyca
is it a good idea to swap shemira for thoran/lyca ? (completely exhange with the item)
You mean the swap scroll? Nah
i want to use it but idk with who :/
Just save it
for ? i have a shemira 4* useless
if i can get a usefull hero for my compo its good, no ?
Just use her to link a dimensional and save the scroll.
^^exactly
but i do not have a dimensional backlane :/
And the swap scroll solves that how?
New dim coming out, you can garrison one, or Ainz.
Plus you need to get authur
^^^^ Definitely need Arthur
i need to get arthur but i will got it in few month
i guess... (i have to buy albedo first every month)
still p stuck on ch 10-22
Mirael (140)
Hogan (120)
Rowan(120)
Lucius(120)
Arden(120)
dunno if I need to just get mirael higher or what
The swap scroll is insanely valuable, using it on a mild/linear upgrade is such a big waste.
but we got 1 swap scroll at every misty valley, no?
No
No?
ah ?
That is the only swap scroll you'll ever get until further notice
so i keep it
What are the correct artifacts for this setup?
Did you try the formation I gave you

yes
Who are you fighting
call chalice call eye eye
Thanks, going to give it some tries before I just merc it
nw it needs a good fera usually
How to deal with Mehira?
just like that, make sure nara is actually interrupting bats. she may need call
Pretty sure she is but I feel like I lack killing power for some reason
Yeah, I already requested a 309 fera, so I’m just going to see if I can clear it before I get it
Any other relic recommendations
Does your Mirael get to ult?
yes
Put her in the center then
where rowan is?
Yes
Good job
What should I build and play
Any help please, trying to grind diamonds for AE
Rowan uses call, farael on eye.
You need to post the stage like I have done above, we don't memorize what 10-22 enemies are.
got it solved but I will remember next time I need help ❤️
Ok sounds good
Good idea
Gzgz
Didn't use call on rowan bc why
Idk how tf you all get so good
@high marlin Any idea for mine😔. Call on Rowan helps him get his ulti, and then he gives energy to everyone else lol, it's literally best in slot.
Time
I never need it on him. Usually run grace or vitality on him
Never ran anything else on mine. Call is so strong on him imo
Coins go brrrr
Who on your team can survive Athalia opening attack
Who a good beginner character to build
Mirael will be fine for you until you cap her at 160
Eirron if he dodges, Rowan but will die after his damage control, talane dies, farael may dodge, same as lyca, daimon may live. Brutus
Mirael I feel like is a fly and dies so quick no matter where I place her
You need her in back middle and a healer/frontline. She hits like a truck if she used her ability
That's why I usually run grace on rowan for the extra dodge
Time to grace eirron
Also she needs to be higher level than the rest of your team
I’m still new to the game I don’t really know any healers except for Numisu I know a couple more healers I just don’t got them
Hey, I’m haaaardstuck on 23-46 & would like to get some perspective on how to progress, or if I even can?
^ level carry first. Do you have a Rowan?
Show your units/stage
@high marlin @gloomy geyser u2 bros or smth haha. scar opop
If your lyca has enough gear to dodge athalia’s first hit run
Lyca
Rowan
Tasi
Eironn
Daimon
This is the furthest I’ve gotten with a team - the plan is to try and get Rowan to ult and give a shield to Numisu as soon as he pops out of coffin. I’ve gotten it down to a 1v1 a few times but after a week of trying it’s mega rare
Oh shit skreg invade
If not run
Brutus
Rowan
Eironn
Tasi
Daimon
I just got a 220 today, so it’ll be maybe a week or 2 before I can save up to make everyone 220 - obviously a lot more to get to 240, so just seeing if it’s even possible
Hi I’m pretty new can I get some feed back on my team and if there’s anyone I should remove and or keep?
Yeah this is what I’m working towards, but it’s still a while off
Ok I'll try that, ty
For that stage you want to cc skreg asap. So eironn, tasi, etc
Sure :) show units (and the stage)
hm... I’ll try putting them in, but I’m unsure over who? kren doesn’t get a lot of dmg off vs them but feels too important - I’m 30 SI Skreg, so getting that initial stun off feels like it’s necessary.
pivot to overleveled mirael carry, that'll hold you over till hero level 160
I have been building Shemira was that a good move
Do the Facebook share event, use wukong. Don't make Legendary Heros you can't make L+.
Reason: If you get make [Belinda] Legendary, you just used Belinda E+ and 2 E+ fodder. If you only have one E Belinda, then you cannot make her E+. So now you have one Legendary Belinda, and one E Belinda. However, if you can't get any Belinda for the next couple months, but manage to get multiple Rowan, then you really need those two E+ fodder. You will really be regretting it because you could maybe have a M Rowan with SI activated, giving energy potions to your team. looks ok otherwise.
I'm not too familiar with skreg rush so hopefully @maiden marsh can help
I see thank you I’ll keep that in mind, and look into the Facebook share
would a level 100 Mirael or Belinda be better
I heard belinda can carry pretty far
i mean mid game shes a great carry unit
im new tho so take me for granted
or not for granted? however u use that lol
she's not great at any point when compared to other carries, but she's passable if you've already made the mistake of investing into her
what are some better carries for around chapter 9?
mirael will work fine, but belinda should also suffice
I'm mostly struggling with ch 10. I dont wanna ask too much here when every stage is giving me problems
the worst thing that can happen is no one answers, feel free to ask for any help you need
I couldn’t imagine trying to build king author it’s $100 for an elite
i think its cause u buy his fragments later game from labyrinth shop
though if I can recommend something to help, try analyzing what's happening before posting. if you can succinctly describe what's going wrong, chances are you'll learn to counter things yourself, which is much better than getting prescribed formations
you link him to a unit you already have and he becomes the ascension level of that unit
I just feel more dumb kek
I heard belinda can carry you till 200/240
anyone can carry until any level and chapter. it's moreso that while belinda can carry, others can do it much, much better
i heard shemira was a really good carry for mid game guess i heard wrong lol
Which is belenda
belinda is good early/midgame but drops off a cliff very hard in late game. Same for shem

outdated guide most likely, check out tree3's compendium pinned to #classic-questions
thanks!
once i hit ch24 im probably using my reset scroll on shem in exchange for an actually useful GY unit like silas
or grez, although i have a lot more grezzies than i do silas atm
look at the stage you're losing: who's dying first? is it someone crucial to your victory? if so, who's killing them? can you move them away from the danger? if they still get killed, can you shut down the threat by targeting them with a nara or something? these are the kind of things you think about to clear stages yourself
Keep the scroll
yeah it wouldnt hurt to sit on it either, I don't intend on using it as soon as i unlock it
Ic
Well mainly bc you'll have to link dimensional heros, so even if you don't use that shemira she'll still give value
Guys help
Stuck on 9-20, can't figure out who to add to my crystal, have 3 slots open
Been trying with this team in different formations
Please read the guide in the pinned section of the questions channel
Any ideas
Mainly on where to put eironn
Please read the guide in the pinned section of the questions channel
@maiden marsh guide me with your wisdom 
So tasi and rowan in the front row?
Order is as you would place it 1-5 from the screenshot
Is there a comp I can use that deals with ainzbedo in pvp?
Is there a replacement for tasi she is a reinforcement and will be gone by tomorrow
You can tell from the screenshot, he's SI10 here
You learn something new everyday
+0-9
+10-19
+20-29
+30-40
Either way my Ferael is only +0 so I need to work on him before I can advance
You got 20 levels on me, you'll be fine
Trust me I am not fine lol
Idk what else I can do to beef up my diamon besides wait for reset scrolls
Getting GB boots gives him haste which is crucial
Ah I'll keep an eye out for those in the guild shop
chasmic altair?
vedan and isabella aint letting lucius live or im so close for saveas and mirael to kill vedan but he has like a dot of health left to ult.
Last question do you remember what relics you had on them?
Tasi rowan daimon call, lyca ferael eye
Pls help me
Please read the guides
@open mural it's not worth to have 2 heroes 140,reset one of them and push to 160. I would recommend mirael, but well, you can try saveas also
ko
@exotic dew leave grez, and work on daimon. Check some guide about how to build your team, and how to set a proper wishlist
now hogan and lucius cant survive at all
Any way to make this team go over 20m dmg? My most is 20m cause of cecilia ultimate
help
Im just trying to find a replacement for tasi in my lineup since she is a reinforcement
Can my lineup get better
@exotic dew how are your fodder heroes coming along. You got 3 e+ wilders there ready. You need to break your lvl cap
Wdym
Have you read the guide on #classic-questions ?
@exotic dew okay so I've seen that many players have already told you to read the guide and then you don't say anything after that
What's the best pair of formations I can make for the Chasmic Altar?
I'm still kind of fresh, but if I can get some free rewards from an event that autolevels my units, I'd like to at least do the best I can. Best I got was Gold 1.
Still not even close lol (sorry for late ping)
Yup but even that isabella turns into flash and hulk and shreds
Any help please?
does anyone have an alternative solution for this stage? It seems one of the enemies got buffed after this formation was used to successfully clear this stage in the past? Saveas just one shots Rowan and Safiya 90% of the time
Pls help me get past this boss battle..
ok solved it, 29-44
Need help.. stuck
u better upgrade your mirael and overlevel her..
overlevel unit can carry you
@vapid field usually arthur front of ainz, but try
Albedo
Brutus/talene
Nara/rowan
Arthur
Ainz
@fading veldt it's wrong to pull Brutus. Try eironn front with rowan. Chalice in rowan, try eye call on eironn. If rowan dies restart until he's not. There's a lot of rng on rowan vs saveas
If Ainz is at the bottom he just gets slapped by Vurk. Even manualing I can't get a kill.
@brave oriole thanks, i'm stuck here now, any ideas?
@fading veldt I remember this stage, I think that i had call on rowan to stun mehira before to ultimate. Not sure eironn, eye or call
i tried eironn to replace nara, everyone still got killed in around 10 seconds
I edited, rowan used call for me. Try some good gear on nara, at least shoes for mspd and eye
Tho, I think that if you replace eiron with daimon, there's more chances
i have t1 shoes on nara and eye, rep eironn with daimon, still no good....
this stage is so broken
So and so. One old setup of mine it was rowan tasi front, safiya eironn lyca
Best 3 teams I can make out of these heroes?
please help
athalia did a pretty good job in disrupting ferael but once Isabella ult, everything's over
Doable at my current state of heros? Or do I need to wait for leveling up?
I cannot pass this by my ideas
(Joker is at 220 btw)
@upper fog
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Saurus
Lucius with dura's call
Awesome! Helped ... Saurus was last reptile standing ... but done is done 😄 Thanks alot
Has anyone beat the final match of 35-44 stage without Alna 30/9. I can't get any merc Alna so im trying to find another way.
that one dies in 5 secs... i even merced nara, i still can't clear this
@fading veldt need rowan front of daimon
@fleet thistle not rlly useful tasi here. You need to cc eziz safiya. Try
Eironn call
Ferael
Ainz
Rowan
Albedo
I’m stuck in chapter 8, where an assassin chick kills my back line really fast. I have 5 slots open on resonating crystal — who should I put on there?
Rosa and Oden could be useful. Reset Seirus and Nemora, and level Saveas and Niru to 100 or 101 instead. Put all your other resources in Mirael until she is capped. She should always be as high level as possible (20-40 levels above the rest)
Help plz.. stuck...
The units are in weird positions cause i was trying changing positions to counter that assasin.. but rowan always gets one shot so its always a 4vs5.. and the new hero gets one shoted too so it doesnt work just changing rowan for new hero 😦
Helpzzz
Front line Brutus Daimon, backline Rosalina mirael rowan.
Get used to having your support/mage oneshot by Silvina. 😛
Ofc i already tried that.. like i said i tried lot of diferent spots for all 5..
Should i put Shemira L+ and trade for Rowan? (Put rowan in crystal and use shemira in these situations where rowan can’t even fight for 2 sex)
Any way you look at it, one character will always get one shot.
Try brutus mirael front line. then Rowan rosaline daimon in the back.
@stuck patio or shemira L+ will be oneshoted anyway?
I’ve tried trillions of things, very stuck. Any ideas? Pls....
I seirus and nemora are elite+ so I haven’t hit lvl cap for them, but when I’m closer I will do that (out of crystals atm, just reset the other 3).
Are there any units in there that would be good to carry me early levels (especially through chapter 8 where I’m stuck) to put on resonating crystal for free lvls?
Rosa
Brutus
Rowan
Mirael
Whatever with crowd control
@ebon shell
Anything not your carry will get oneshot at any stage, sadly.
I wouldn't get Shemira to L+ though. It's a waste as she is not very good.
any help would be greatly appreciated
Mirael is the one who would carry you if she was overleveled. Oden and Rosaline are heroes who can support her with carrying
Some guides I’ve read mention shemira being good for campaign — is that not true anymore? I have so many options lol not sure who to use
@stuck patio @past urchin yep still not working xD Rip me, guess i need to wait till tomorrow so i can lvl up a bit more Mirael or smth..
Shem is trash now. Try not to invest in her
Try Daimon >Talene Eiron >Saurus, Lyca
Keep restarting the level over and over again, try for better RNG. But get used to that feeling since that is this game in a nutshell. XD
Shemira used to be top tier like a year ago. Now there are many more OP and broken heroes released that are so much better
Didn’t work :(
What is dealing the most damage to you?
Oh that’s so sad bc I got 3 copies, made one elite+ and one sitting on the sidelines
I think fawkes, maybe shemira. basically insta lose every comp I’ve tried
That's not too bad. You'll get 5 for free anyways. I have 9 copies laying around being useless as well
Fawkes??? Also you can check the stats after the battle in the bottom right.
@stuck patio @past urchin Did it ! Just needed a bit of luck on doing +1 ult with daimon and mirael xD
Oh wow! I think I got two for free and one rando pull?
Her skills seem like she’d be a good campaign carry, sad she sucks 😦
She just got powercreeped
Now its worse xD Sylvana and Vedan ahahahaa rippppp
Use Nemora in the middle.
Restart until she charms Ferael and he destroys his own team @frail osprey
so what’s rest of comp ? or try in the one @ madame moo suggested ?
I had to use a merc to clear 28-54, and I'm struggling to find a variation of my heroes to clear this stage
You should try to experiment.
And learn.
I gave you a hard counter for Ferael, but Im not gonna play the game for you ;)
@frail osprey
everything I try I lose before I get first ults off. I feel like I’m too low level LMFAO
Going to keep trying tho :)
Still nothing tried diferent comps insted of lyca but nothing helps
Any other sugestions or il have to wait 3 more days till merc this stage 😋
How to win with this sick team 🥺
@past urchin Can I get a hard counter recommendation for Thane? 🙂
Just put eron behinde the one Who thane is atackong so he grabd him and gg i do it that way and always works for me
Eh...hes just annoying @stuck patio
He doesnt even do that much damage.
Yes Eironn works well against him.
In my stage he wipes the floor with everyone.
Post it pls
Eiron behinde Ind down corner so he grabs him
Dies instantly after grab.
Do you have a built Rowan?
Rowan is at L.
Nemora
Shem
Eironn
Brutus
Safiya
Maybe....
Its unbelievably slow without Rowan, but you can try.
Wont hurt @stuck patio
Time to start thinking of a better carry btw.
@stuck patio
Now me 🤣 🤣 🤣
Slowly going Daimon. he's at L with two L+ fodder waiting in the wings when he hits L+
Next heroes choice reset, which is in 7 days, I will get another copy.
Maybe if I am lucky I will pull fodder or something to get my 5th asc and get a 2nd heroes choice unlock.
just wish they had a strong LB carry which wasn't as situational as Gwyneth
Get rid of Eiron, but Talene Brutus up front followed up by Lyca Ainz Silas in the backline
Next login event.
@stuck patio
Take that into your calculations.
Will trie it
Thank you much for the info. I see Flora given away quite cheaply a lot, is she worth picking up as a Cele?
Good raw value, but Id keep the chest.
Until it gives you an 8th copy of someone.
Someone such as Daimon.
Or Lyca
Lyca is Ascended already. I think best value would be Daimon for me. Rosaline is E+ and Flora E.
You wont use Flora realistically until you start running Thoran cheese.
So dont worry about it.
Rosa will also do at E+ for a bit.
And even then Flora is fine at E.
I
Omg I did it @past urchin only took like 2 hours lmfao
I need a lineup even if I don’t have one of the heroes I will grind to get it
I need some help
not working, rip
@balmy hinge how is silv as a carry? Is she a better carry than sav?
I started a couple of days ago. Been mainly using Lucius + Eironn frontline and Safiyah + Nemora + Rowan backline or Lucius + Rowan frontline and Fawkes + Eironn + Nemora backline. Can someone give some advice about good team setups and what summons I should be aiming for?
Should i trade Brutus for Estrilda+ in frontline? Anything that i should change in line up ? Daimon, Mirael, Rosaline, Rowan, Brutus ? In my pool ofc
Hey.
At least you did it yourself @frail osprey
Grats!
@past urchin helpz ❤️❤️
Lucius might be better than Brutus this early on.
He sucks late game, but this early hes a powerhouse.
Just dont invest in him.
Hey all, not really sure how to build a formation, I've done some research but most of its use this exact team, not the theory behind it, any tips?
This is my roster
Can someone help, this cc hurts
i tried this for a while im getting pretty close but still not enough, any way to inprove this?
i tried probably 120+ times
Skreg just demolishes while Saveas and Safiya do big damage. I've tried most Daimon, Safiya, Tasi, Lyca Eironn Rowan combinations.
Started playing a week or two ago, kinda stuck here, got close just now but I just keep not making it
stop making ascended tier heroes to legendary and read pins here and in #classic-questions
its best to do more cc in
show hero box to better help u
for now try tasi rowan lyca daimon ferael
it is extremely rng even with the comp i used there which was tasi Rowan daimon lyca ferael
ainz with 9 and both 30s wirh albedo is quite strong but it doesnt have the sustain and cc that team i listed did
try smrh like tasi albedo ainz rowan ferawl
rowan brutus ainz joker ferael
see if joker goes after p1 or p2 and give it a couple tries
also did i mention b4 that u shouls stop doing L heroes?
stop making ascended tier heroes to legendary and read pins here and in #classic-questions
for now reset tasi and saurus and follow those guides and pump up shemira level ans frotnline her where the least dmg is
show hero box
try brutus lyca ainz tasi arden
Need help I’m hard stuck when mage ult my back line is gone
stop making ascended tier heroes to legendary and read pins here and in #classic-questions
I did ask in questions they sent me here
i dont have tasi 
reading pins in both helps

well u might have to merc one she's too good here
I did read it
u got one and E should work ir she tele in a favorable spot
then u know what to do
reset your L ascended heroes and invest in arden and mirael
daimon is good at m
its purerly ascension and levels around that point
Hi, only been playing for a couple of days, I'd love some advice on a lineup for campaign, but also what units I should use resources on and who would be better in resonating crystal
have you read the first two pins in #classic-questions ?
Ah! Thank you very much, struggling a little bit atm but enjoying the game so far ^.^
If you can still use mercs, just merc a SI30 Arthur.
silvia and athalia is wrecking my team before anyone can even ult.
here is all my heroes
ok completed with joker and ferael
queen also played a big role
Help
Help
Pls help me
Try front brutus lucius
Back shem rowan Belinda/nemora/morael
Maybe
Front daimon grez
Back rosaline rowan eironn
Is ferael the problem
I'm not sure
Check statistics
Can eironn pull one/both of them in one spot
Idk how to do that
It worked! Thanks for your help!
I would swap Wu Kong with Brutus (I think that's his name)
I was trying to reply to this
What I meant to say instead of front was bottom
I will swap wikong witj b4itis
Did it work?
Can i get help
Try
Front hogan rosaline
Back arden rowan daimon
@celest zinc
Please help, I keep getting bursted down before I can do anything
Any ideas?
Do you have a nara/eironn?
@strong badge me?
Yea
i dont think sp Lemme check
I lost😔
Arden seems to be tanking maybe place him front
I got a nara but shes like elite @strong badge
That can do
So with brutus' immunity place him front and place it where nara can hook arden
The problem is the lamb girl she keeps healing them when their health is low
Eironn/nara time I guess
Hey guys i need help
Need to hook mehira
Tried to with eironn, nara would die fast
Oh nvm LOL it worked
Smh
Who should I m+ first rosalind or Rowan
I needs help
I would go for rowan
What do you need help with
I want to know who to group together in formations and who should I really focus on
- #lineup-help <-- ok ignore that, I hallucinated I was in #classic-questions there
- read the pinned guides in #classic-questions before you brick your account further
I just started AFK arena One day go
In my case antandra was a really good carry so i recommend farming her
You should also try to lvl Shemira and lucius, maybe lyca or eironn they'll be useful later
Daimon too
shemira is really weak pre 160, she cant be frontline. show your heroes and stop making L heroes if you cant make them L+
show units...
Who should I use
put lucius behind brutus, who should be frontline. this will help lucius stall for his ulti.
@wintry robin
image didnt upload for some reason, just copy paste this link
Need help. Currently hitting big roadblocks
Tried swapping a few different heroes in the top back slot can’t get it tho
Help? This is arena trial.. been replay couple comps but nothing work :(
Any help is appreciated!
Any ideas for this one?
Could anyone help me to win the first wave? Does Luc 9/9 could work better than my dim comp?
Help plssss. If I beat this I can get into abysal expedition!!! This is a counter for my team tho. I tried using mehira to counter out the Isabella energy loss
Grezul so annoying also cuz I can’t place my ainz infront of him and also ferael is annyoing too
Maybe put rowan in front instead of Ainz
What abt mehira
Id personally use tasi over mehira
Maybe I can beat it with prince
I don’t how to build a good team 
Use Nara to pull Isabella and distract the Isabella, see if that works.
I’m either dumb or this games so confusing 
- You shouldn't level Gwyneth to be the highest level hero, Gwyneth is NOT your carry, Daimon is, so reset Gwyneth and use the resources to level Daimon and also level up Lyca. What you want is your carry to be about 15-20 levels above all your other heroes.
- There is no permanent lineup, it will change depending on the stage you are on, formations are never to be permanent.
I wanna try a stunlock, how should I set this up
@weak mantle well, the guide says that wu is a great carry pre-100. After that is just fodder territory to break the 160 lvl cap
Help who should i use
im stuck on 13-39 pls help
Can you show 13-39?
Oh, that stage, I was stuck on it for a long time too.
- Don't use Ainz yet, you don't have him good enough for him to be able to carry.
- Do you have like a Nara or something to distract Isabella?
- If you don't have Nara, you can try using Eironn to pull the Isabella and try to kill the Isabella, which was how I got through that stage, but my main carry was Daimon which can definitely live longer than Shemira.
- You don't want Lucius in front of Estrilda because when the battle starts, Estrilda is just gonna knock Lucius back and stun him, giving Lucius no time to do anything.
@tight aspen Also, if you want, you can show me your hero box and I can maybe try to get a formation for you to work.
I'm definitely not the best at this stuff though.
Also, to clarify, the reason Ainz isn't good enough for you to use is because Ainz relies on his signature item heavily, so if you don't have his SI at +30 yet, then, he's honestly pretty trash.
i dont think i got nara
plus my Eironn gets like stunned and cant do anything, and dies
if i put my Lucius on the side where the isabella is, she is just gonna suck his energy and cant use his ult, and my whole team dies
@sly talon ummm, i kinda just beat it LOL
i used this lineup and it worked somehow
ty for trynna help tho
i think what happened was the prince froze the whole enemy team
You beat it? Great. But I suggest you stop using Ainz, you can use something like Mehira/Tasi for CC, you can even put Shemira backrow.
ok ty
Because I'm guessing your Ainz rarely has a chance to get his ultimate off, am I correct? @tight aspen
Yeah, Lucius ult is extremely important.
But one thing you want to remember is you want to overlevel your carry, not your tank.
if i can get daimon to like legendary
i mean Raku is kinda my carry, but its only legendary+ so i cant upgrade him
That kinda works, but signature item for Ainz is extremely important, and when you can get Ainz SI+30, he can definitely work out as your carry, but before then, I highly suggest you get Daimon.
lets go i beat chapter 13
@tight aspen This is just reference for how OP Daimon is.
yeah my friends has it and its carrying them so hard, and i want it, but i just cant get it
I tried that
@wintry robin Show me all of your heroes.
This is tough.
Yea Ik
I hoped prince could do something but he’s useless without weapon and furniture
Gets insta killed basically
I really wanna beat it tho for abysal, I likterally just went from 13-22 to 15-40 in one run and just to get hard countered by that bs team
@wintry robin How much signature item is your Ainz?
Also if I wanted to I could make tasi A and bind ainz to her if I need to
That’s my last resort
You can get Tasi Ascended? If you can, that stage shouldn't be big trouble.
Keep Ainz binded to Belinda, and use both Belinda and Tasi, the stage shouldn't be hard.
It would be close
If you do have Ascended Tasi, use
- Brutus
- Lucius
- Ferael
- Tasi
- Belinda
See if that works, but you must have Brutus in that #1 spot because that is where Isabella will attack, and you will need Brutus to stall for you.
No, you can't get Ascended Tasi, only Mythic.
@cloud holly lvl sars fairy norm bel wu
You don't have enough fodder. You need 2 L+ wilder to get Tasi to M+, and then 2 E+ Tasis' for A, but you only have one piece of food.
Thanks I’ll start working on that
@wintry robin If you are very desperate, you can make Tasi Mythic and try.
I don't 100% guarantee it'll work, however, if Tasi was Ascended, then that's a different story.
You should also start building Daimon, he's extremely OP.
Lucius gets one shot. golus and saveas are the pains hitting hard and just sweeping.
Try putting Rowan in the middle, and switch out Lucius for like Brutus or something to stall.
k
@open mural Did it work?
What hopo is thay@open mural
Stuck on 10-40, please don't tell me to read the guide, I have, I didn't know it existed until I was already at chapter 8
what
@open mural third row third hero
That's Rowan.
are you trying to say hypo?
Yes
cause that's lucretia
Did u try her?
I alrdy got another way to work
Lucretia is trash at one elite copy, it's not gonna work.
K
They going red again smh
I read both but I'm still stuck (?)
why would u be
just wait on teh fodder to make those carries higher
its all just levels on carries there
u dont have the heroes or the ascension to support a specific team for this specific matchup
I'm new to this type of game so I don't understand what you're saying any fodder ??
I'm asking if I can swap anyone in the matchup with someone else too :/
Should I take the levels off mirael and use both miraels to ascend belinda
no
also read the guide in pins #classic-questions has most if not all of what you should be doing
ok so the idea is pretty simple,u wait on copies of the rare heroes listed in the guide to raise their ascension which raises their stats ans their level cap making them stronger that's what getting fodder for them means
👆
that's all u nwed to pass early chapters
Can someone please helpp
Ah ty but I can't get heroes if I'm stuck and can't progress 😔
be more helpful if you described what plays out
u get slow through time
u should be pushing everymode avalibe to you untill u can't anymore
this includes tower and lap etc
tower givwa alor of rare srones which is more fodder dor Your L tier carry
Can anyone help, please?
Need help lost my reinforcement tasi now i don't know what to do for a team comp
@maiden marsh did your diamond have full gb gear
Bc I still am nowhere close to beating this stage
He's had full GB gear for a while, but he's not a very gear dependent hero
Definitely feels like it bc I'm not even hitting half the dmg in your ss
I'm working on Ferael's +10 rn so I'll just be stuck for a while. Ty for the info tho
im gettin really close with this but in the end numisu and brutus survive and kills me
@wild breach put more lvls on shem since she's your carry. Shem+brutus+wilder trio is an older meta tho. You can use a rosa if you have her since rosa+shem ult is a nice combo
@fleet thistle have you tried putting ainz in another position? Myb away from ath and brutus?
i tried putting prince of persia in center or albedo but they just get oneshotted unlike ainz
damn i finally did it
911 HELLO I NEED HELP
WHATS THE BEST TEAMS I CAN MAKE FOR THAT NEW EVENT BASED OFF MY ROSTER
hmmmm its been 5 days stuck now
Hali-gali
Please help. I can't beat them
Can my team get better
Brutus? In early game I think is good
Rosaline and Mirael are eating me alive. I can’t find a lineup that lasts longer than a couple seconds
How does this lineup look for overall team?
daimon/ainzbedo/thoran built at all?
read pins in #classic-questions don't have to read the big text guide (unless you want to) but def look at most recent graphic
Only one of them I've got is Thoran. No stars or anything, and haven't put anything into his sig item yet, though I have more than enough to pump it to +20 right now if that helps
rip, not sure you could reliably cheese it without +30. otherwise thoran cheese could be worth a shot since taint probably goes on mirael which means you just need to pull fera/rose. most meta comps for singles rn use daimon or ainzbedo so big sadge. any other comps u got like izold or lucretia cheese or 5 pull?
Nope, none of those unfortunately. I wasn't playing when ainz came out
assuming you already have arthur i think it takes roughly 7 or 8 months to get both ainz and albedo perma free rental from garrison
Don't have Arthur yet either. I have 50k labyrinth coins rn though and only need to purchase him one more time
I took a pretty long break

i tried about 57 times with a lot of substitutions, can I actually defeat this stage or I just don't have enough power ?
Everybody getting one shot :C
im pretty stuck here. but i think i should be able to beat this lvl at my combat
please help, I just need to buy a split second so that ainz and rosa can ult respectively.. any suggestion?
Stuck.. anyone can help? Sylvana just one shots rowan and mirael/daimon can’t ult fast enough in 90% of fights ..
anyone?
Swap Nara for tasi and switch her position with oden so she grabs the saveus
Try using Nara to disable issabella
Ainz out, Lyca in. Daimon will carry, so Ainz is not needed. Could also swap out Rosa for Lucius or Brutus
Wrong channel, but yea I guess it's still good. Nowadays it's Eironn-Skriath aka Five Pull tho. Safiya doesn't need investment to work in that comp. All she does is put her piramid up. This is an late/end-game comp
ok I see, thanks
any ideas how to beat this?
Swap Arthur and Albedo so Ainz gets the buff. If you have the gold emblems, Ferael likes +20 a lot. For the rest it's just rng
okay i did it ,thx
These trials are kinda impossible for level 100 teams, right?
Your own heroes don't matter for the trials. Everyone has only 10 heroes available which are all set to 240 with 309 investment.
oh, really??? i thought I had checked the Morael trials and I was with my main team, I might have mistaken or assumed it wrong
thanks, will definitely do them then
Assassin chick murks me
I feel like i can beat this i just need the right team for izold to scale
Can my team get better
Has anyone gone through the 423rd floor of the tower of light at 415-425 levels?
Help
This stage sucks
nvm I got it with rng
What Team would be good for Tower ?
is this lineup ok?
Eironn
Rowann
Daimon
Tasi
Ferael
Am i too overleveled?
There's no such thing as 'too' overleveled, but yes, you are overleveled.
good to know. so till ch 33 i stay on 308 haha
Hey guys.
I could use a little help here.
Nemora is supposed to charm Ferael but never does.
I watch youtube videos where she like perma charm him, I don't know if something changed between patches maybe?
Im stuck can someone help me
i cant really get past this, do i need to level up, rng, or just change some stuff around?
Help been stuck on this for over a week
Anybody know a good comp to beat the level
Should I use Nara
@pale kettle did you beat 11-31
i'm stuck on the same level with one of the enemies one shotting people with crits
im stuck on 14-40, my heros just get one shotted
someone help me pls
daimon instead of eironn maybe?
tryin
Any tips to complete this? I end up killing Athalia First
Any help is much appreciated. AFK Helper is failing me and this is my 2nd day working on this stage...
5-pull with ezio in 1. Ezio Lyca Queen Eironn Skriath or something.
ok let me run it
If that doesn't work, I'd try something like Arthur Ezio Ainz Ferael Albedo
Ezio, Skri, Saf, Erionn, Lyca - so far not so good... let me run it for a few more minutes before I switch
I think I used arthur rowan tasi daimon eironn in that order, tho it is in afkhelper so you mightve tried it already, but it's in the bottom of the page so maybe not.
This got me close a few times... Ezio needs to live a little longer
ugh wtf mate
Holy eff. That was brutal
gratz
Cant rly help you much, but i would say ur more than strong enough. Got characters weaker than urs on chapter 11. Maybe change around the position on lucious and daimon a bit
yea I’ve tried that, if I switch them around Lucius gets destroyed
Any ideas here? I feel like I’ve tried everything lol
Welp im only chapter 11-36 so aint sure mate. just gotta keep trying new positions
if one of em leaves 1-3 enemies behind keep repeating it. Can be rng
i just got it..somehow
Good stuff mate
Just gotta keep trying and ya gonna get it. Gj
Having trouble with this trial
I would firstly swap the front heroes with each other and then swap the top left with Belinda
ok let me try that
Belinda
Brutus
Numisu
Prince of Persia
Talene
didnt work, belinda died too early
hmm bummer
I did it with this
PoP
Gorvo
Nara
Talene
Belinda
@drowsy inlet
woah, that worked!
yeah, the extra CC from gorvo is clutch
This is my current team, but Im lacking a healer and frontline completely to really progress much further. Sadly I dont have Lucius and only 1 purple Hendrickson. Any idea what I should do? I could swap out 2 units for legendary+ Silas and Izold to make up for it, but that'd mean losing the 25% buff, is this even worth it?
So my current line up is wukong rosa Rowan mirael hogan. What should this team evolve into?
Just see what you get
Trying using Silas and/or Izold in your team
hey there, any help for 25-59? stuck forever!
try eirron tasi prince rowan lucius
if u cant shutdown the hypo mage with an early stun u will hwve to use a nara
and i no one told u yet stop making ascended tier heroes to legendary
What should I Merc
@fervent parrot
this is quitw doable wirh good rng
i u got one tasi slot her in for thoran and put her p4 and rowan p1
brutus should be fine there
read pins here and in #classic-questions
its quite simple early on
there's guides on reddit alreaey for the teams that wjn
stop making ascended tier heroes to legendary and read pins here and in #classic-questions
and are u stuck or just asking for what to focus on next?
Rather asking on what to do, because Im unsure about it since Im lacking tanks / healers. Im not stuck yet
its fairly simple early with legendsry tier heroes
following wnd building the heroes in the pinned whislist will get u through the early game fairly easy and most importantly
dint make any more L heroes
no tasi in p4 and rowan in p1 front
well need tips for merc,laneup, and artifact i think really appreciate it
Oh umm my eironn is linked to prince @lone wren
ah
ok hold on
try brutus rowan tidus eirron and nara
u should get mythic gear for eirron asap as hes not the best ewrly carry due to relying on dodge which is non existent without good m gear
did i mention that u should stop making L heroes?
Yes sir im sorry, and i dont have nara
@frail lodge
oh good thx i will try with this i think
well just realize that tasi is 9/9
She is but it doesnt change that much.
If she survives the first few sec she'll blink away anyhow.
Its more about T2 boots/staff
yea its RNG okay thx too for the screenshot i will save it too
but sad i have no t2 boots/staff with wilder faction
If she dies, tank Athalia with Ferael.
I used Barricade on Daimon btw I think.
If it goes well, hell ramp up without call.
oh okay nice tips.. oh barricade? well my eironn sadly si20
do your eironn still manage his ulti?
Yup.
He needs to kill Ezizh with Daimon.
And Safiya.
oh okay daimon barricade.. the other 4 use call or mix with chalice?
Fera eye.
Everyone else call.
oh i see okay noted thx for the tips
Good luck!
yea thx wish me luck but i really dont give too much hope too if somehow dont manage in time haha
coz not my plan to pushing hard today
I’ve tried everything 🥵
@warped moat you need lyca swap
?
use lyca for ulti energy
im 27 chapter and joker still usefull
How bout pop
Ok
For who
Hi. I have a question. Cuurently i am playing with lightbearer heroes, because theyare my bets.
But i want eventually focus on graveborn. I have read, thet daimon is really strong ,. But i dont have luck on his tokens...
But i had a lot of fareal tokens, i could even bring him te legendary + ....
Should I? Or should i wait for another graveborn hero to ascend first?
Help, really want to clear stage 29 before reset so i can get a hero from MV :P
Help
Do you have a nara or something to grab the mehira?
Or perhaps try this
Trying to merch a strong one rn, mine is E+
I will try it
An E+ one should work, maybe give her better gear and call maybe
Which relics did you use here? Mine team even with 16lvls up gets completely destroyed within seconds
well 29-60 will be harder i already macro around 3 hour lol
merc nara/athalia to cancel mehira
Maybe copy first lineup here and use izold r2, tho you do have to sacrifice a few units away from izold. Give it a try tho
I don't know, sorry. It's from afkhelper, not mine
Oh i see, thanks anyway
Wth, not only am i higher, the enemies are as well... Wth
Going to assume a standard Drape Call Call Call Eye
Am I seeing this right, is that a corner Eiron?
lol yes it is

Beatable, or wait?
stuck on this stage as well 😅 i've tried most of the lineups on afk.helper but they don't seem to be working out for me (probably because everyone else on there has a +30 SI daimon)
eironn won't work against mehira, use a nara if possible
gotcha, i'll try to merc one
An E copy works fine
i dunno, my team just gets wiped in 12 secs
Halp
yea merc nara for 29-54.. i just pass the stage 8 hour ago if i am not wrong
Stuck big time
you stunted your progression by using up too much fodder on making L units, there's not much else you can do at the moment other than to wait
huh, i looked away for a second and ended up winning with this setup
ferael lived long enough to cc everyone for daimon to ult a third time
should def grap one from a chest or even buy with challenger coins if u got extra on u rn
dont if u are still gathering for PoP exchanhe be cause hes def worth
anyways u should be scrolling graveborns for a very long time so u can get a nara soon hopwfull u only need 1 copy
stop leveling that saurus and when he hits lvl cap reset him and procede as the guides say
as fot the rest try to make daimon +20 as soon as possible it will make a huge impact and for now u should bw just crusing through stages are u stuck?
Yeah I’m stuck rn
show hero box to get a better idea of what u got
and stop making ascended tier heroes to legendary and read pins here and in #questions
well u should work on an Arden from wilders he helps bur for now try saurus daimon tasi ferael lyca
Thanks
Help
any ideas?
try;
Ainz
brutus
Rowan
Lucius (talene if lucius doesnt ult)
lyca
you need a more solid defense in front of your farael or he is going to get one shot. i would use izold in front of him, and swap him with daimon so he can fear eveyrone. you may need to swap lyca and brutus as well, and you may want to use rowan instead of brutus. also try swapping daimon and ainz, as you may need more burst than sustained damage
I just started playing about a week ago. Loving the game. Wondering if anyone could give me some build advice. The current team helped me break through the chapter 9 barrier that I hit. I need to strip a lot of my characters down for resources (I was leveling anyone and everyone, before I realized that was a mistake).
dont make L heroes if you cant make them L+. shemira pre 160 is very weak, i wouldnt invest inot her anymore. only level 5 units, as other units will use the resonating crystal for levels. this comp look pretty good, after lucius is L+ dont take him any higher, hes ass. i would make a mirael L+ and use her until level 160, and then feed into rowan so rowan hits M, where he gets his (very strong) SI.
looks pretty good though, keep working hard m8. enjoy the grind. and level your carry first before everyone else. you dont really have a designated carry rn, so just level mirael and use her. remember you can get a copy of her at rare from one of the shops.
Thanks @pale lagoon! Moreal is on a timer. I don’t actually own that hero, unfortunately. The L Daimon is also borrowed.
I will pick up the Moreal Elite ASAP.
yeah i can tell 😛 and i meant Mirael, a Lightbringer (the fire wizard tutorial lady).
Yeh no rip got destroyed
I’m a bone head. I didn’t know who Mirael was until just now. Looked her up. 😂
this is super aids comp because as soon as isabella starts casting you die. i would use lyca and rowan to support ainz, and then pray that ainz one shots isabella. you also need to tank shemira/farael (but mainly shem), as well as tank niru.
try:
lyca (eye) /brutus (drape)
brutus/lyca (same arti)
lucius (call) / silas (not sure, maybe call?) / rosaline (eye) / daimon (call) / tasi (eye)
rowan (call)
ainz (call)
hahaha np 🙂 lmk if you have any other questions. you may just have to wait for mirael copies to come in atm, or w/e
Yeah. I have 71k lab tokens. Not sure if I should put them into her or keep collecting for the Prince of Persia hero.
PoP isnt coming for a long time, but im not sure really what role he plays. if you get close and need a copy then def spend it, you will still get PoP but hmm... im on the fence about him atm 😛
Yeah. It’s a long wait, when I need a good hero now to carry. I might just say forget PoP. 😂
Keep shemira backline
dont use belinda. use lyca instead, and use brutus instead of pop so you can stall long enough for lucius to ulti. @viscid knoll
Halo
This is a nightmare
