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[maiden marsh]

Send a video

[worn pilot]

@maiden marsh

Okay, Oden manages to ults sometimes, but less often than not

[maiden marsh]

Try mirroring the comp because why not

[worn pilot]

It was going so well. Then it crashed and everyone died

Again, all get to their Ults at near full hp, then Oden ults. But, damage? Not really seeing it

[maiden marsh]

Seems fera is the big problem here. Try mirroring it back again then swapping arthur for eironn

[worn pilot]

Do I want Eironn pulling Fera?

[maiden marsh]

Joker should lock down fera here, eironn helps clump them

[worthy steeple]

Does position matter for nara in Arena or LCT

[maiden marsh]

Of course, because that determines who she pulls

[worn pilot]

BEAUTIFUL

[worthy steeple]

What about Defensively?

[maiden marsh]

Middle back stops 5 pull so I'd just do that

[worn pilot]

I made Eironn pull Ferael and it worked like a goddamn charm the first try

[worthy steeple]

Ah, thats the reason she wants middle back

[worn pilot]

Stage clear. Jesus.
I'm not sure if Oden did what he was supposed to :kazThonk:
But he got several ults off

[maiden marsh]

Lots of stuns, cc, and grouping them into eironn

[patent hemlock]

Trying to avoid using a merc for now, but if need be 🤷🏻‍♂️

[worn pilot]

It worked very beautifully. Thanks for the help

[maiden marsh]

[naive kindle]

Labyrinth team? Will be using a shemira friend

[lilac agate]

Struggling on this stage, any tips

[wary pagoda]

@naive kindle use some merc in labyrinth is ez

[naive kindle]

What are the most recommended heroes for lab? @wary pagoda

[wary pagoda]

@naive kindle idk you can try get ainz he blew everything

[past urchin]

A big Ainz.
And you beat every stage with 1 click.

[wary pagoda]

Yeah

[proper orchid]

Mercenary available

[exotic dew]

What is best lineup I can get

[naive skiff]

is it possible to win?

[pale kettle]

Can someone help me?

[past urchin]

Read the beginner guides pinned in #classic-questions
The most recent two.
@pale kettle

[brave oriole]

@naive skiff if you reset something to lvl 160,anf push gwyn to 200, maybe it is

[burnt moon]

Any advice? I’m still using Silas because Nemora isn’t as reliable as him by herself

[daring palm]

Anyone can help? I'm stuck on 13-36

[agile roost]

Help

[timid tulip]

Thats probbably my most succesful formation. Though it isnt saying much as it isnt very successful

[south needle]

I’m kind of a noob but is your Rowan dying quickly? a tank alongside Shemira might be a nice move, with Rowan moving to the back. if you like Nara then maybe Thoran would be a good tank (to activate the 3x allied faction buff thing as well. (in this battle they have 5x and you have none)) or Izold if that’s who you have.

I did a Shemira carry on my main, I usually ended up running with a Lucius-Rowan-Belinda core alongside her and fill the 5th spot situationally

but I also started using a regular purple Talene recently (I think that’s her name; the celestial you have) and she got me over a hump dramatically

tough stage though with that matchup. best of luck brother

[gleaming python]

Can anyone help? I can’t beat this stage.

[languid oriole]

Anyone got main team suggestions?

[gleaming python]

@languid oriole your first 5 and Rosaline

[languid oriole]

uh you cant put 6 people on a team 👀

[gleaming python]

I know I meant like change between them

[languid oriole]

no tasi?

[gleaming python]

Though I don’t know what kinda hero is that bird guy

Is he a tank or a damage dealer?

[languid oriole]

mage

[gleaming python]

Damage dealer then. Hmm. Well you should definitely use Tasi, Rowan and Rosaline as supports, they are all very good heroes. For damage dealers both Saurus and Daimon are great and well for tank you could use Brutus or Lucius but the problem is that they’re only Elite+.

You should focus on ascending Brutus and/or Lucius. You always need at least one high-level tank.

[languid oriole]

yeah problem is I have no copies of them and i was about to be level capped thats why I took skarith to M

[warm swan]

@languid oriole you only need brutus for his invincibility, his ascension really doesn't matter. Your si priority should be rowan and daimon. Get rowan his +30 and give him his gears and he can be your frontline. Daimon is a monster carry at +20.

[gleaming python]

@warm swan could you help me too?

[merry jackal]

try Shemira Brutus Rosa Rowan Lyca

[gleaming python]

Ok

[gloomy shard]

Daimon.

[gleaming python]

@merry jackal didn’t work

[naive kindle]

Team for peaks of time?

[gloomy shard]

Merc a good hero and let it carry you

[naive kindle]

Whats a good hero for peak of time?

[gloomy shard]

Idk try like a 5* +30 9/9 Daimon

[merry jackal]

how many tries? also try flipping it or replacing lyca with fera/ tasi

[naive kindle]

I tried to hire ainz. Idk if he works tho

[gleaming python]

@merry jackal tried each variation 4 times. Didn’t work.

Their backline is just cancer

[merry jackal]

adjust artifacts till it works, if it doesnt then level up your carries more

[unique pulsar]

Need help with creating 3 teams, so far 1 team has been, (arthur,albedo,ainz,rowan,ezio)
Team 2: lyca,tasi,skriath,eironn,safiya
Need some ideas for third team tho, something with izold,daimon maybe? I can also use +20,9f grez +ferael who i am not currently using, except for some stages

[past urchin]

He does if hes invested in at least somewhat @naive kindle
Play manually.
Let your heroes charge up energy on the 1st battle (its ridiculously easy).
Energy carries over between stages in lab.
So every fight after the first will be just Ainz ult, most things dead.

[naive kindle]

Ait ty

[agile roost]

Help

[low ravine]

Lyca/Silas
Ainz
Rowan
Brutus
Arden
Something like that

[agile roost]

Don't work

[low ravine]

You can swap heroes around, swap gear around, swap artifacts around. Maybe try Ezio or Lucius. Identify the problem and try to get around it

[balmy hinge]

Is there anyway i can defeat that stupid vampire ill have everyone alive but he still manages to kill all of them alone

Do i just have to wish on the rng

I won😂

The rest of the bosses better not have vampire man

[gray merlin]

How can I counter this comp?

[patent hemlock]

🧐

Eironn is messing me upppp

[pale kettle]

Finally reached the last stage, Whats a good formation + merc here ?

[past urchin]

Do you have an Eironn yourself thats not terrible?
@patent hemlock

[patent hemlock]

Sadly only have 1 copy of him, I’ve had terrible luck pulling eironns pun intended

[patent hemlock]

I could always merc one but I’d rather not use one yet, if need be I will tho

[median bridge]

i just get insta destroyed

my daimon cant even cast ultimate twice

[past urchin]

Dont frontline him.
Its not a tank.

[patent hemlock]

Literally stealing my wallet at this point from how much hes pulling in, I was hoping tasi would banish him before he could but not the case sadly

[pale kettle]

any help is appreciated. Gonna be my last post here for a long long time lol!

So far I’m around 30 retries in with no avail. Tasi banishes ira, Athalia if she jumps on my Brutus.

[pale kettle]

WHAT IS THIS

[patent hemlock]

WHAT

[past urchin]

Eironn vortex.
Thats what it is xD

[patent hemlock]

😭

[pale kettle]

try an E eironn with lyca maybe

Or call

[past urchin]

Its an idea...
However Im pretty sure its 200 free energy for him :/

[pale kettle]

yeah but canceling the pull might help a bit. It seems to be the main problem for him

[patent hemlock]

I’ll try anytning at this point, eironn where, mid?

[pale kettle]

yeah

Nara with call or lyca can work too

and she provides faction bonus so

[patent hemlock]

I don’t even own a nara, who do I replace eironn with?

[pale kettle]

maybe tasi?

[past urchin]

Just dont let him pull Daimon.
He will obliterate him.

[pale kettle]

actually probably ferael

[patent hemlock]

Looks good?

Well if it’s fearel lmk haha

[pale kettle]

try both

[patent hemlock]

Positionings look good tho?

[pale kettle]

yes just swap fera and daimon

[past urchin]

Nono.
You will never kill them with Nemora and Lucius there without Fera anti-heal.
Not Ferael.

[pale kettle]

yeah you’re probably right. I thought tasi giving eironn a second stun might help, but nah the healing is probably too much

[past urchin]

Just try it with anything for now.
To see if he can even outspeed him...
The difference in haste is massive.

[patent hemlock]

It’s looking good for a little, then that lucius shield appears and it’s over lol

I’ll keep trying, maybe the rng gods have something for me

[past urchin]

But does he pull 1st? At all?

[pale kettle]

^

[patent hemlock]

Yes, yes he did

[past urchin]

Lol

[pale kettle]

Gz!

[past urchin]

Gz

[patent hemlock]

Lol thanks for the help y’all, it was worth replacing someone on the crystal for 100 gems

[pale kettle]

NOW HELP ME WITH MY MERC PWEESE 🥺

[patent hemlock]

Aqua man is always a problem for me, his health is crazy sometimes

[pale kettle]

I despise him

I was thinking a skriath for 5 pull but idk if that works with daimon

[past urchin]

Tasi
Rowan
Fera
Eironn
Daimon

Try like this Wraith.
See if Eironn can ult.

Yes Daimon out of the cart range, I know.
Sometimes you dont want him to take the potion.

[pale kettle]

Artis?

Is this good?

[past urchin]

Try it.
Wont hurt.

[pale kettle]

Currently eironn can’t even pull

[past urchin]

Give him call.

[patent hemlock]

This much damage with a loss, crazy

[past urchin]

Wait for 29-8 xD

[patent hemlock]

I hate numisu

[past urchin]

Its Nemora/Ulmus/Tasi with Gorvo and I cant remember what.
Pure chaos.

[patent hemlock]

Haven’t tried but I already know this boss stage is gonna go horribly

[patent hemlock]

I was right

[pale kettle]

oh no this gave me cancer earlier

[past urchin]

Swap Brutus and Rowan and thus Daimon.
Vurk will destroy the frontline with his poison.

[pale kettle]

I’ll see if I can find my comp

[patent hemlock]

This seems to work for a bit then poof all gone

[past urchin]

Whats your Ferael's weapon like?

[patent hemlock]

Nothing amazing, I started building him recently so it’s a t2 lightbearer weapon I took from fawkes

Nvm it’s a fulls set of t2 dimensional gear I took from joker w t3 boots

[past urchin]

Replace it with a legendary weapon.

[patent hemlock]

Oh yeah I heard about that bug

instant

[past urchin]

Ez

[patent hemlock]

What in the world does that bug do lol

[past urchin]

It changes his skill rotation.
With a mythic weapon he will try to cast accursed arrow and THEN fear.
That takes forever to go off.

With a legendary one (or purple if Lyca is on the team) he will auto attack and then fear.
Which is muuuch faster.

You want early fears.
Especially against enemy Ferael.
You gotta fear 1st cuz if he gets his off...well you are dead pretty much.

[patent hemlock]

Sheesh, seems broken

I’m now figuring out that my tasi is basically bait with a silvina on the field

[past urchin]

Yup.
I had that problem too.
You may swap gear between her and Rowan.
And give her chalice.
Not sure if that will do it, but worth a try.
Rowan will survive the jump anyhow with his 'Damage Control' or whatever the heck its called.

[patent hemlock]

I just replaced her on this stage with my joker and it did fine,she was not surviving no matter what

[past urchin]

Oh yeah.
I was hoping Silvina would jump Rowan instead.
She targets an INT hero with the lowest defence.

[patent hemlock]

Sorry for my lack of awareness lol “INT”?

[pale kettle]

intelligence

[patent hemlock]

Ah, makes sense

[pale kettle]

basically mages and supports

[patent hemlock]

26-54! Just moved up 10 stages I’m happy with that, I’m stuck again so I’ll just keep trying

Kinda bummed I only have 1/9 for daimon

[past urchin]

2 more.

Take him off at 3
His 9 is really bad.

[patent hemlock]

I’m 10 pulls away from a mythic furniture card so I’ll use that on him then hope for the best for the last one

[patent hemlock]

Really?

[past urchin]

Yes.
Its 10% damage done increase over 3.
And a shield applied to allies after he dies.
Hes a carry.
If your carry dies you lose anyway ;)

[patent hemlock]

Makes sense lol

Think I should stop working on my jokers si and start on daimons? Daimon is pretty much my carry now either way, his is at 20

[past urchin]

Also dont card 3s.
Thats a waste of red cards.

[patent hemlock]

So don’t go for a daimon furn with that card?

[past urchin]

Leave him on the wishlist.
It will come naturally.

[patent hemlock]

What should I do with the card?

[past urchin]

Keep it.
Until someone is at 2 furniture categories full.

[patent hemlock]

Gotcha

[past urchin]

At that point you are in risk of getting a duplicate.
And duplicates are very bad unless you are some mega whale spender.

[patent hemlock]

which I’m not so notes taken 📝

I have 4 furn for talene and she’s not even ascended 🙃 anyone specific that should be on my inn wishlist or just who I’m ascending?

[past urchin]

Ainz all the way till 9
Albedo till 3
Izold 3
Daimon 3
Skriath 3
Ferael all the way to 9
Grezhul till 9
And the last 2 depending on whom.you build.
I would put either Alna or Lucretia there and stop gazing Talene.

[patent hemlock]

Yeah I stopped gazing talene and started on twins, so I’ll wishlist those now!

[past urchin]

Tasi also needs 3 so she can frontline.

Thoran also if you plan to cheese at some point (eventually you will have to lol)

[patent hemlock]

Where would I stop with furn for rowan?

[past urchin]

He doesnt need any.
His furn is meh.

[patent hemlock]

Gotcha

[past urchin]

Furniture its vastly an individual matter.
Dont follow my list blindly.
Those are just staples people suggest.
But if you for instance dont plan to build Izold ever, theres no need to get his furn.

You get the idea.

[patent hemlock]

Yeah I was thinking about that, I can just focus on who I’m building for the time being or who I just plan on building

[mortal sable]

Hard stuck on 8-8, any line up tips? I feel like I’m doing something wrong

[patent hemlock]

Try daimon at 5, tasi at 2, and mirael at 4

[pale kettle]

@patent hemlock

[patent hemlock]

Ah you fuck

[pale kettle]

Cal on daimon Rowan and tasi.
Eye on ferael and eironn

LMAOO IT TOOK ME A MILLION TRIES STFU

[patent hemlock]

Ima try that same comp with an E eironn 😉

[pale kettle]

ahhh

Well that’s gonna be awkward

[patent hemlock]

yeah it’s not working

[pale kettle]

acts surprised

[maiden marsh]

Shocking

[patent hemlock]

Lmaoo

[pale kettle]

try mercing an eironn if you can. An SI30 eironn would probably end this first try

[patent hemlock]

Yeah I might just have to merc here

@pale kettle @maiden marsh ahem

[maiden marsh]

Took you long enough

[patent hemlock]

Just a little 🥴

[pale kettle]

Ayy congrats!!!

[patent hemlock]

Thank you!

[pale kettle]

What should be my team

[high trellis]

im new, can anyone give advice for what to put on my team out of what i have? would be really appreciated :)

[past urchin]

Wukong all the way to lvl 100.
Then Mirael or Saveas to 160
Then Daimon if you can ascend him.to mythic (use faction scrolls on Graveborn).
I suggest you read the guides pinned in #classic-questions
The 2 most recent ones.

[candid scaffold]

@subtle yoke

[subtle yoke]

Pre level 100, you can get Wu Kong from share event. He is a great help pre lvl 100.

You can share when you summon or upgrade some stuff. The button apears on the bottom right of the screen and dont need to actually share, just click on it.

When you get him, level him many levels above the rest, like 20 or even more, and he will carry you until lvl 100+ when i recommendo switching to Mirael carry.

In both situations you just want a team to tank and support both of them. Tasi, Arden, Hogan are some ideas of heroes to used on that team.

Read the pins at #questions channel

[steep night]

Any help ?

[daring prawn]

Any help?

[exotic dew]

What is the best lineup I can get

[steep night]

Is here anyone who can help ?

[lone wren]

try Rowan Lucius rosa gwyn and ceceilia

[lone wren]

u neither got a 9 ainz nor an albedo

it will be extremly rng with ainz
would say u got a bettrr chance wirh saimon if u can get his SI to +10 atleast and +20 preferably

[steep night]

I was doing better with my lineup

[lone wren]

read pins here and in #classic-questions

[daring prawn]

@lone wren in next week i get arthur im prepairing for him

[lone wren]

still quite hard
the enemy got khasos and safya that will half hit or one shot whoever is in their way

u can try smth like
saurus,Rowan,nara,tasi,ainz
your units arent also invested enough for rng heavy runs

[steep night]

Thi is the best one so far

[lone wren]

may get it with rng

who's fawks caging

[steep night]

Fereal and baden

This rosa with nara just annoying they keep crushing my team 1 by 1

[lone wren]

u would need ferael tk stun the nara and rosa should probably drop fawkes if he cages fera

[steep night]

When he cofin baden its going better

[steep night]

They dont

Btw rosa follow rowan

[lone wren]

that's...not optimal

resson why i never put stars on rowan

doubt u can survive without him too

at the start does rosa get hooked right away or sweep near Rowan?

[steep night]

She sweep now i removed gear and fur from rowan so she follow gwyn

[lone wren]

well this should go through in enough retries
i would personally slot lucius for estrilida

thoran poses no threat to anyone

[steep night]

Well he use his passive on fawkes so badens shadow can one shot him

After i puted lucius fawkes cofin fereal@lone wren

[lone wren]

hmmmm

well that was unforseen
the knocknback debuff mattered there from estrilda

well i got nothing else then
try it as b4 for a couple more times and see

u may end up mercing a raine and doing like estrilda lucuis rosa gwyn raine

it will all hinger on how long rosa can survive till lucuis ults

[steep night]

This is the best result

LB faction rlly sucks with curent heroes like there is 14 heros and only 5 or 6 of them useful

[steep night]

Always same team all to do is change lineup a bit

[lone wren]

sometimes frotnline gwyn

[dull bay]

Itd be nice if fawkes didn't take gywn

Rowan Fawkes Rosa sucks

Finally

[lone wren]

nice

[shrewd pawn]

struggling on this stage

[pine marlin]

Im also stuck in Ch24

Arthur is linked to daimon... Maybe I should switch that

Nevermind

[daring palm]

Any help on the team here? Or Level just too low?

[low ravine]

There's no reason for Safiya to be in that team. She would be a secondary carry (which is not needed as you have Daimon already) or a support. If you're using her as a support something like Lyca or Tasi would be way more helpful. I would do Rowan back mid, maybe front if he has good gear. If Tasi gets the energy potion for example that wouldn't be a problem. Even Ferael you can try switching with Lyca/Tasi

[daring palm]

Tyvm I thought her back row thing was helpful maybe, but this with Rowan infront worked after 3 tries

[low ravine]

Nice! In the rare case where Lyca gets an ult off you can try her back mid so she hits all enemies (that is only if Rowan is in front)

[humble apex]

Took a lot of retries but it eventually worked! Thanks

[rancid cloud]

Any suggestion ?

[random lance]

anything i should change to win this?

[paper tinsel]

I'm using, Shemira, Rowan and Mirael back row and Thoran and Mezroth in front row.

What should I be doing? Which characters to level up, which to leave? And what lineup to use

[limber blaze]

Level up lucius he's really good

[limber blaze]

And I think flora too but she's not worth it when it comes to ascension

[low ravine]

You have 4 carries and 1 support in your team. That's not gonna work. I highly recommend reading the guides pinned in #classic-questions

[glad adder]

I’m new and this is what I have. I use the first 5 in all my battles and I was just wondering if they are all good or should I be switching the other epics with them?

[low ravine]

As the pins in #classic-questions say, you should level and ascend 5 fodder heroes only. Before lvl 100 use Wu Kong only. No one else needed. After that you use Mirael carry with Hogan/Brutus tank and 3 good supports.

[night herald]

Anyone have any ideas?

[chrome pike]

Any advice to pass this one? 💩 💩

[low ravine]

Don't use Talene or Joker. Silas also isn't ideal. Why are you not using Rowan?? Other supports like Tasi, Lyca, Ferael, Eironn are also way better in this team

[chrome pike]

Im not using any of them cus they are 1shot there xd

Rowan is a good one but teams with him didnt make any difference so i dodnt use him

[low ravine]

Put them behind Brutus. Get good gear on them so they can dodge. Trust me, Rowan will make way more of a difference

[chrome pike]

I made brutus behind talena to let her die and heal them xd

[low ravine]

Oh I see. You don't have his SI.. Rowan SI +30 should be first priority. Focus on that one

[chrome pike]

SI is personal item?

[low ravine]

Signature item. You have Daimon at +30 right now. That was a bad investment

[maiden marsh]

more like far earlier than needed

[chrome pike]

Yeh i realized that when i read his buffs again xd

[low ravine]

Whenever you invest in someone look at some guides first to see if it's a good idea or not

[chrome pike]

Yep xd

[limber blaze]

What can I do with them???

Like any formation recommendations and who should I level up and throw away???

[random lance]

isnt daimon a tank

[maiden marsh]

not in the traditional sense, no, he's a carry in this game

[low ravine]

Did you level up all those heroes individually??? You only need to level 5 heroes and put the rest on your crystal..

[opaque gale]

those have to be individual right?

[humble apex]

If you really want to salvage that account, go to rickety cart and reset every hero that’s not mythic (red) and go to the resonating crystal, which it looks like you’ve never used

[random lance]

ohhh oki, who would you suggest i swap out?

[maiden marsh]

put like arden in or something

[humble apex]

Dang you pushed from 33 to 41 in a day? Crazy

[worthy steeple]

I would recommend looking at the pinned guides in this channel; you box is in a very bad situation right now

[random lance]

im thinking of just restarting tbh, i feel like ive done everything wrong

[maiden marsh]

it was easy really

[worthy steeple]

Lemme see your box

[random lance]

whats box, i installed 2 days ago sorry i dont really understand these terms D:

[worthy steeple]

Your heroes tab; the place where you can look at your current collection of heroes

[humble apex]

This

[humble apex]

Honestly looks fine, have you read the pinned guide in questions and copied the wishlist?

[random lance]

yeh i did that a bit ago

[humble apex]

Typical comp is 1 carry, 2 supports, 2 tanks, but you can switch it up a lot. Wukong carry till lv 100, then mirael or saveas till 160. Some good supports early on are Arden, Tasi, Rowan. Some tanks are hogan, Brutus, thoran.

[random lance]

should i retire everyone and just relevel everyone

[humble apex]

You’ve only leveled 5 heroes so I would say no

Unless you’re really struggling with crystal slots

[random lance]

oki, cuz im not sure how ill get the hero exp to level the others up as im struggling rn with my current team

[humble apex]

That’s normal. Just level Wukong to 100 and then slowly work on the rest

[random lance]

oki thanks

yikes im on 24 hour cooldown on crystal cuz i took 2 people off

[night herald]

Anyone able to give me a hand with this one

[meager aspen]

Any help on how to defeat this stage

[pale kettle]

Whats the best lineup for pure dps?

[high marlin]

Depends

[high marlin]

Does rowan not tank Athalia hit?

[night herald]

He doesn't die from the dash but right after he does

It's going a lot better getting Rowan to tank her idk why I didn't think he could do it. Thanks I should be able to get it now after some retrys

[high marlin]

Yeah once you build rowan enough he can tank a lot of stuff so you usually don't need Brutus imo

[high marlin]

Who's giving you the most issues

[meager aspen]

@high marlin

[high marlin]

Is there anyone on your team who can tank Athalia's initial attack

[meager aspen]

Should i put brutus to tank with his ability?

[high marlin]

If you have no other options then yes. Usually I would recommend rowan but yours isn't even mythic so no way he can tank yet

[meager aspen]

I m thinking of asking as merc

And any recommendation for lineup

[high marlin]

Did you check afk helper yet? Plus you use a lot of characters I don't so I can't really give a good formation

[whole vortex]

What should I do?(yes I know I suck)

[high marlin]

Are you stuck? Or are you looking for a long term formation?

[whole vortex]

I'm a bit stuck but I am looking for a long term formation

[high marlin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/le0b0p/visual_guide_to_end_game_pve_formations_by_arty/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[fiery orbit]

Looking for some tips for the future, sorry for the numerous legendary characters, I needed them to progress

[high marlin]

Look through them and find out what you like

[whole vortex]

ty very much I appreciate it a lot

[high marlin]

Did you read the guides yet in the pinned section of the question channel?

[fiery orbit]

I've srolled through them

[high marlin]

What kind of tips are you looking for then? Like anything specific?

[fiery orbit]

I'm mainly trying to figure out who I should focus on building/pushing

[high marlin]

You should look at that reddit post I just posted. It has most of the formations so look through it and find a few that you like. Then check your heros and see what you need to get

[fiery orbit]

Alright

[worldly parcel]

Ugh maulers !! any advice I'm really trying to get to 280 😂

[pale kettle]

Is this even possible?

everything just gets squashed immediately. Any suggestions are appreciated!

[past thistle]

Is it worth upgrading Rowan but I think the others are good?

[high marlin]

None of those characters are fodder so just hold off

[brave oriole]

@pale kettle if you cc with nara this ezizh, maybe swap nara and daimon, see how's working

[pale kettle]

He gets stunned but the top side of my formation gets obliterated immediately, then they gain a ton of energy and snowball the rest.

[frigid eagle]

Is there a way to see what comps ppl use for guild bosses? A list of soren/wrizz meta teams or sth?

[pale kettle]

just google it, but mainly you want sau as youre dmg dealer then whatever champs you have left, also you can check like leaderboards to see the most used comps

I just started yesterday i want to conserve resources early

[pale kettle]

check pinned beginner guide in #classic-questions that wil help you alot

[high marlin]

@frigid eagle

[pale kettle]

No grez? Was I doing this wrong all this time 😭

[brave oriole]

I guess so.

[pale kettle]

or mortas.. you sure this ain’t outdated ?

[brave oriole]

Maybe it is on soren, dunno how s raku yet there, but it's okay on wrizz

Since I don't have a raine, I've used Saurus and a strong merc bel front, lorsan Rosa twins

[pale kettle]

same comp but grez mortas instead of lorsan belinda

I’ll try yours next reset

[brave oriole]

It's easy to find a strong Belinda, just to not be stronger than Saurus, so Rosa would follow Saurus

[high marlin]

It says updated December 2020

[low ravine]

This one is more updated @high marlin @pale kettle

[pale kettle]

Don’t have that blue arti for mortas, Whats a good alternative?

[brave oriole]

Call

[pale kettle]

Okay ty!

[high marlin]

The same but with mortas over belinda/warek. Good to know

[lilac inlet]

I’ve been hard stuck on this stage for a while and I was wondering how to try and keep my Ainz from dying, which has been a struggle since I don’t have a good rosaline or ferael which seems to be important

[high marlin]

What si is albedo?

[lilac inlet]

she’s currently at SI10 (with Rowan at 27 and Ainz at 30, if it matters)

[high marlin]

Pretty sure once you get albedo to +20 you'll start doing better. You also need to get authur

[lilac inlet]

ah okay, I have to wait a bit longer for the store to get the shards cause I only have 15 atm but I can afford 45 more I should’ve realized earlier

thank u sm, I’ll enhance her si rn

[high marlin]

For rn you can try:
Ainz
----->albedo
Rowan
----->Brutus
Lyca

A lot about ainz comp is just stalling for his buffs

[worthy steeple]

Why are the the heroes I use for Daimin needed for Ainz

[high marlin]

A lot of comps use the same heros

[lilac inlet]

as soon as I started albedo got obliterated, and subsequently Ainz

[high marlin]

Some characters like Ferael are good in almost every comp

[worthy steeple]

Only thing I gave Ainz from that is Arthurbedo and Tasi

[high marlin]

Swap albedo and Brutus. Just need to stall

[lilac inlet]

somehow the ezizh AOE killed him this time

[high marlin]

Since you're using ainz comp check out afk helper. A lot of people use ainz comps there

That would give you some placement ideas, since that does matter as well

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=25&stage=12#

[lilac inlet]

unfortunately all of them either had daimon, ferael or a crystal level above 240
why didn’t I start building ferael earlier this is so sad

[high marlin]

He is insane lol. Well now you know so you can build him

[worthy steeple]

I got fera from swapping with mythic+ drez

[lilac inlet]

I have 5 copies of him rn, so it might be a bit till I get 3 more but hopefully rng stops being a bitch

thank u for all the help 🙏

[pale kettle]

can tasi save enemies from ainz’s 50% ?

[worthy steeple]

Not sure if it does, I dont have +30 or 9f yet

[pale kettle]

With her banish^^

Oh okay!

[worthy steeple]

I mean its between that or giving Ainz Fera and Daimon Tasi

[pale kettle]

Tasi is so good but so awkward at the same time

[worthy steeple]

I think Ainz needs Tasi cc more though, Fera is more anti heal, which daimon needs

[pale kettle]

I have no experience with ainz but I’d guess they both share the same supports. They have a very similar gameplan

[worthy steeple]

Yeah, they do, wich sucks

Ainz just uses less cuz he has Arthurbedo with him

[cunning hemlock]

I’m pretty sure I messed up somewhere help plz

[pale kettle]

Yeah and ainz just seems more consistent and less RNG reliant overall.

[nocturne furnace]

only problem i see is that tasi is only L but u can easily get around that if u get the hogan L+ then u will be able to go past 140, u also only need to level 5 heroes so reset the purples u have leveled

[cunning hemlock]

Thanks

[pine marlin]

I am stuck

[high marlin]

Do I use the one on the far right or left

[nocturne furnace]

u can try all 3 and see which one works the best

[proven chasm]

Hey could someone help me with deciding who to run for campaign/who to put on crystal? I’ve been running Thoran, Talene, Damion, Silas, + whoever for the most part. Is there a better grouping I could be using? I’m also only on chapter 11 haha (Was also using Mirael at some points and only garrisoned Ainz yesterday just to get that started)

[proper beacon]

Any recommendation on who to ascend next?

[maiden marsh]

you said you had alna ascended +30, is this an old screenshot?

[proper beacon]

Yeah this is old I’ve only been working on alna, lucretia would require a lot of investment and I’m f2p so stargaze takes a while

[maiden marsh]

well I'm sure you know to be going for alna 9 super hard, but for now, I'd focus on finishing up those L and M heroes to clean up that box a little

[high marlin]

Have you checked out the guides in the pinned section of the question channel

[maiden marsh]

I mean they're ascending fodder so I presume so

[proven chasm]

Yeah I have and I’ve been doing my best to follow it. Half posting to just check I haven’t super messed up somewhere yet (other than not doing my wishlist at first lol)

[high marlin]

You're doing fine then

[maiden marsh]

mirael carry should be fine for a bit longer, since she isn't levelcapped yet

[proven chasm]

Okay awesome, thanks 😄

[high marlin]

Just keep working on ainz in the background. He's gonna be a long term investment so he'll carry you later on

[proven chasm]

That was the vibe I’d been getting. I will!

[high marlin]

Yeah at your stage you don't have to worry much. Just don't be afraid to come back and ask if you have any problems

[maiden marsh]

be on the lookout for that fourth daimon copy. if you can grab that then level daimon's signature item to +20, you're set in campaign for quite a while

[proven chasm]

Yeaaah that’s I’ve been hoping for, fingers crossed it doesn’t take too long haha

[crisp pier]

Hey, can someone give me some suggestions for campaign/tower? I'm on 12-2 and floor 145 on tower. Also anything I can look at to help understand how to build a good team, cause I've been brute forcing my way through the game up till now

[strong badge]

A lineup you can use is lucius tasi ainz lyca arden

[unreal pollen]

whats best line up i can make for campaign and kings tower?

[marsh nymph]

ideas? hopefully can push this ch, stalled quite a few levels for it.

[steep night]

I cant claim my chest cuz of this stage

[lone wren]

what's the requirement and what heroes u got?

misty valley is very easy if u just got an ok roaster at your level qns ainz everything

[steep night]

No ainz

It was supee easy every stage but this one rlly annoying

[lone wren]

u can try to live the pull and do smth like rowan brutus ferael joker daimon

or outpull them and use eirron,arthur,lyca,gwyn,ferael/daimon

[steep night]

Just wanna pass idk about silver and gold dor

[lone wren]

u can merc one

for now try brutus mezthos solise rowan and daimon

[steep night]

Mezoth ult usless with skreg

And daimon so stupid idk why he alwyas go for their half

[balmy hinge]

I can defeat almost everyone except niru but when im lucky and beat niru seavas claps my team

[pulsar root]

Im pretty stuck on this stage...

[humble apex]

nara can pull mehira before she spawns her minions

may need lyca haste depending on her boots but makes her a lot easier to kill

[pulsar root]

I’ll try that out, thanks

[crystal apex]

Any better choices for boss team 2, for the upcoming AE vs Ezizh?

[next sable]

this list has some good references for comps imo

[crystal apex]

Okay. Looks like my teams are honestly more then fine.

[foggy grove]

Can someone help with this?

[crystal apex]

Try this.

[foggy grove]

Thanks, but it hasn’t been working. Got kinda close few times but then athalia just ults and kills whole team

Maybe I need more levels :/

[crystal apex]

Might just need rng with Eironn’s tornado freezing her.

You can also try switching Saf with Ferael to try and fear and some energy mitigation.

[exotic dew]

What is the best lineup I can get

Pls help

[crystal apex]

Get your Free Wu Kong. Partner him with Silas. That should break you out of early game and get you to ch7.

[clear lark]

any ideas?

[exotic dew]

What is the best lineup I can get

Pls help

[odd star]

Having trouble with this stage and I have copied this line up from afkhelper, but Thoran doesn't even have a chance to ult even once after trying hundreds of times. How did others succeed at lower levels than mine?

[humble apex]

pippa si 20 gives the ally she's throwing immunity for 5 seconds while still able to gain energy. This setup does not work without it

[fleet thistle]

im getting destroyed really quick ainz can't trigger the 9 furn effect and everyone dies

[odd star]

I see, thanks!

[humble apex]

do you have joker?

[fleet thistle]

nope

[humble apex]

don't know that much about ainz comps without arthur/albedo, but maybe
ainz
rowan
ferael
brutus
nara

[fleet thistle]

kinda worked, at least im not getting destroyed instantly

[humble apex]

I was assuming mirael is the one wiping your team, but you can also try pulling ferael and seeing if that works better

[lunar garden]

Brutus mid

[warm swan]

@foggy grove i completed that earlier with thoran cheese

[lunar garden]

Daimon >Eironn
Brutus
Lyca >Rowan

[trail heath]

Who is better for my lineup Silas or oden?

[humble apex]

silas is great with wukong and you already have enough carries in that lineup

[exotic dew]

What is the best lineup I can get

Pls help

Should I use shemira

Pls help

[humble apex]

At your level you should be using mirael or saveas as a carry

I would recommend reading the pinned guide in #classic-questions and not taking ascended tier heroes to legendary

[ripe granite]

Pls help

[exotic dew]

Who should I upgrade

[rose forge]

why aren u using gwyneth? shes the only dmg dealer u have besides the merc cecelia

[clear lark]

she gets taunted by ezizh

[rose forge]

u can merc a hendrik to protect her or try to get estrilda to stun ezizh

[clear lark]

yeah i tried hendrik but she still gets taunted

[humble apex]

ezizh taunts the enemy farthest away

[rose forge]

maybe switch her postition, she doesnt have to be mid back she can be anywhere on the backrow really

[past urchin]

Shes too low level to stun the whole backline anyway, so yes you can literally place her anywhere.

[pale kettle]

Can aomeone help me W/ Boss. And team

Just starting out on a new f2p...wondering what team I should be using

[vapid garden]

I cant get past this boss battle... pls help

[fleet thistle]

can someone help

[strong badge]

Though I can't see the actual stage I could guess I know

Place rowan on crystal reset hogan for daimon
Reset the heroes that aren't on your main team Kelthur, numisu, tasi

[vapid garden]

Huh ;-;

[strong badge]

So front: daimon saurus
Back: mireal rowan arden

[vapid garden]

Resonating crystal? @strong badge

[strong badge]

Yes

[vapid garden]

Wdym hogan for daimon?

And reset heroes that aren't on my team?

[strong badge]

In rickety cart you can reset heroes for 20 diamonds

[vapid garden]

Ah

[strong badge]

Yea, 5 heroes on each team it's a waste of resources to level up more than 5 heroes

[fleet thistle]

can someone help

[vapid garden]

That's what I can reset but I use them all sometimes @strong badge

[strong badge]

Reset tasi, kelthur, numisu and hogan (daimon will fill in his spot)

[vapid garden]

But hogan is kind of tank

[strong badge]

So is daimon

[vapid garden]

Eh

K did it uh how do I place the characters

[strong badge]

If he isn't really far from the enemies level hes fine

[vapid garden]

Hes lvl 1 ;-;

[strong badge]

So use the resources from hogan you got for him

[shrewd sorrel]

[vapid garden]

Who tf is the lvl 280 big guy , dual wield

[shrewd sorrel]

i need sum help

[strong badge]

Try
Front rowan brutus
Back ainz gwyn saurus or
Front brutus saurus
Back gwyn rowan ainz

[shrewd sorrel]

thanku

[strong badge]

Saurus and that's my resonating crystal guy

[shrewd sorrel]

that works?

[strong badge]

Don't worry about the level

[strong badge]

What

[shrewd sorrel]

yoir comp w 2 lvl 1s

[vapid garden]

,_, so now I gotta take him out.... and lvl up than put him back

[shrewd sorrel]

and gwyn Ainz are linked siren cant use them

[strong badge]

No, I don't have the heroes nor am I going to place them on crystal it's just wjat the formation should look like

[strong badge]

I'd suggest linking to eluard

[shrewd sorrel]

and eironn? i got him ascended

[strong badge]

Or shemira

I didn't take a good look at the lineup I'm going to have to re think this

[shrewd sorrel]

okayy

[strong badge]

Front rowan thoran
Back gwyn (linked to shem/eluard) brutus (stall athalia) ainz

[vapid garden]

So now take out daimon from the crystal then lvl him up and then put back? @strong badge

[strong badge]

1 reset hogan
2 use the resources to level daimon up
3 place hogan on the resonating crystal

[vapid garden]

I did

[strong badge]

It isn't at all suggested to take an already leveled up character on your main team on crystal

But seeing that you already leveled up daimon and put hogan on crystal you're fine of course you can use them both as tanks

[vapid garden]

Passed but should I uh be Lvling hogan?

[strong badge]

Level saveas for crystal levels

Alsp crystal heroes can't be leveled up

[vapid garden]

Ye oof

[strong badge]

It's for the best though in every situation i know of

Actually now that I think of it you can use daimon in crystal and be fine

[vapid garden]

So what do I do now with the hogan? Keep him him crystal?

[strong badge]

I suggest it

[pale kettle]

What line up should I be using early on?

[shrewd sorrel]

[strong badge]

(Take hogan off crystal)
I'd say front: wukong estrillda/skreg
And back: Gwyneth arden (place him on current team/crystal) saurus

[strong badge]

Do you have talene

[shrewd sorrel]

yeah

[strong badge]

Place her on crystal

[shrewd sorrel]

she is on it

[strong badge]

Oh i didnt see

[shrewd sorrel]

np haha

[strong badge]

Try front eironn talene
And daimon rowan ainz

[shrewd sorrel]

alr

[mortal sable]

I’ve been hard stuck here for some time, What do I do lineup-wise? I’ve been switching around formations

[strong badge]

Can you put wukong front I'm hoping he could rush Isabella

[mortal sable]

he’s just getting fcked before Lucius can get his ult off

should i possibly change my lineup?

[strong badge]

Do you have a pull hero like nara or eironn

No

I see you have reinforcements if you can grab an eironn

Place him where he pulls Isabella

[mortal sable]

alright, will try that, thanks!

[languid oriole]

Anyway to reposition or swap someone out to win here?

[lone wren]

u got no carries

saurus cant carry with all this cc in his face

show us your hero box

[languid oriole]

Yeah I get charmed up top and bot I get cc’d and distracted by totems

[lone wren]

make daimon +20 ad soon as possible ans try;
brurus,tasi,lyca,ferael daimon

[languid oriole]

I was told focus +30 Rowan? Is +20 daimon just better tho?

[lone wren]

+20 enables him to carry for a very very long time

+20 then 30 rowan wont do anything if your carry is at 1 SI

[languid oriole]

Yeah my saurus is 20 but I beefed him up without consulting anyone sadly

Honestly his SI isn’t bad tho helps carry through a lot besides cc lol

[lone wren]

he's not bad but he's deff not a carry

in campaign most the time

[languid oriole]

Should I spend event points to get daimon up to 20 or still focus red boxes?

[lone wren]

well tbh from raw value every item there ie very good value in comparison to red chests but they're simply too rare as f2p

i would myself get daimon to +20 first b4 i worry about +30s

[low ravine]

Late reply sorry but just go with the one that matches with your heroes best. The ones with MVP under it would technically be the best with optimal investment. Of course you can try out multiple comps. Replace someone with Cecilia if your team dies

[shrewd sorrel]

[rose forge]

what do u need help with?

[shrewd sorrel]

the stage

its called lineup help here....

[rose forge]

i know but be specific what hero is the problem in the enemy team, im not on the same stage so i couldnt know who's making the stage so difficult..

[shrewd sorrel]

id say tasi bcs athalia is ez w my brutus but tasi and isabella make it hard

[rose forge]

hmm, well yeah brutus back mid, unless u can get rowan to survive there and stun athalia, try pulling isabella with eironn and put in something like daimon lyca tasi for dmg haste and banish, or saurus if u need another dmg dealer

[shrewd sorrel]

okay

[exotic dew]

What is the best lineup I can get

[spiral quail]

How the hell do i beat this? Anything i put there just gets deleted by isabellas sucking ability

[exotic dew]

What is the best lineup I can get

[frosty wadi]

I’m stuck i don’t know what I could do

I also need a better lineup

[stuck heart]

who should I use for the front people

this is my team rn ^^

[exotic dew]

Pl

What is the best lineup I can get

[tulip vapor]

help

[random lance]

who do i put duras grace on out of wu kong damian lucius rowan and thoran?

[vivid vigil]

I'm having some issues right now, I can beat the whole opponent's team except vedan. Vedan keeps turning into the bats and thus winning the battle for the opposing team. Any help?

[timid solar]

try putting fawkes instead of wukong so he will put Vedan in a coffin while you take out the rest of the team

[vivid vigil]

Wish I saw this suggestion earlier, thanks anyways, but my rng rolled high enough that I won by swapping the formations a little

[timid solar]

thats even better, its pretty annoying when you just have to retry a formation for a hour to get it to work

[vivid vigil]

Agreed

[strong badge]

#classic-questions

[exotic dew]

Pls help

[pale kettle]

[past urchin]

Try swapping Brutus and Rowan

[pale kettle]

❤❤❤❤❤❤

[past urchin]

Did it work?

[pale kettle]

Oh yes

[past urchin]

Sometimes you gotta cut Daimon off the cart range.
Daimon potion not always good ;)

[pale kettle]

Anyone knows a good chicken/eironn lineup?

[grim plank]

How can I beat this

[vapid field]

https://gyazo.com/1245b2ea9de862d50b3e2ed3ce8cd54f

[daring trellis]

How do u see my lineup? its an standard build for everything, would u change something ?

[mighty wave]

Stop making so many L heroes first

[vapid field]

Stop making so many heroes Legendary and over level your carry. In this case Shemira. There are a lot of good guides and tips pinned in questions as well.

[exotic dew]

Should I invest in this comp

[frosty wadi]

Did I over lvl my carry

[exotic dew]

Can you help me @frosty wadi

[random lance]

should i swap rosaline for Arden in this comp:
Mirael Thoran Lucius Rosaline Rowan

[frosty wadi]

How can I help

[rare karma]

Can someone help with F363 of the Tower of Light please?

[exotic dew]

Help

[strong badge]

With what

[vivid vigil]

Help?

[vivid vigil]

with?

[foggy grove]

That has never worked for me lol

[warm swan]

@foggy grove Oh.. Ok. Well anyway if you want to try it out, I used lyca, thoran, lorsan, eironn, rowan

[exotic dew]

That should I use the lineup or not should I make some changes etc....

Pls help

[rigid birch]

sending your hero pool would help

[high marlin]

Most people use seavas or Mirael until they cap out at 160

[fleet thistle]

im stuck

i get killed really fast

athalia is probably the issue

[rigid birch]

you should never use ainz without albedo, dont use daimon and ainz in the same team bc 2 carries dont overlap well, Thoran is a good tank who can sometimes buy some time for ainz to trigger his 9 furn, Brutus vs. Athalia, Rowan Mid, Lyca if Ainz doesnt ult fast.

[fleet thistle]

my albedo gets killed faster than daimon that's why i was using daimon

and this comp carried me all chapter 29

[rigid birch]

albedo can clutch a save on ainz, she boosts the whole team's defense
with 30 si she boosts ainz' overall damage by 30% and by 45% if there is a 3rd dim

[fleet thistle]

so albedo instead of daimon?

i have her si 20

[rigid birch]

Albedo
Brutus
Rowan
Ferael
Ainz
(yes, i know ainz vs athalia but he has albedo)
probably won't work, so as an alternative:
Ainz
Rowan
Albedo
Lyca
Brutus

[high marlin]

Diamon and ainz are too different in playstyle for them to work well later on

[fleet thistle]

ainz gets one shotted by athalia

[rigid birch]

thought so
use the 2nd formation

[fleet thistle]

tried again he kinda survived but couldn't use the 9 furn ability

[rigid birch]

do you have alna?
put her in the crystal and frontline her, remove lyca

[fleet thistle]

e+

[mighty wave]

Anything i can do to strengthen my 2nd team? Used to have sauras cycle but it kept dying all the time.

[rigid birch]

Oden
Lucretia
Pippa
Brutus
Filler

[mighty wave]

Don't even have brutus up and oden still at 10 not really ideal for pvp

[rigid birch]

you want oden to die as soon as possible for lucretia tho

[fleet thistle]

alna also gets killed instantly

[rigid birch]

you put gear on her right
gear+call

[fleet thistle]

yes

[rigid birch]

does she trigger her passive immunity or does hogan interrupt her before

[fleet thistle]

sometimes she kinda survives but dies right after

[rigid birch]

you just need her to trigger her 9 second immunity and should be enough for ainz' passive i hope

[fleet thistle]

and how does she trigger

[rigid birch]

animation at the start of the battle where she swipes with her spear and an aura appears around her

[fleet thistle]

oh and rowan also gets shotted lol

he had gear and call and +30

[rigid birch]

yeah most definitely wouldn't fare up against a shemira and an estrilda lol

[wind hamlet]

Lineup for campaign ? In chapter 5-1 atm

[exotic dew]

In lace of who should I use Erin

[fleet thistle]

i kinda made alna do the animation using fareal instead of rowan, but she died

[exotic dew]

In place of who should I use Erion

[high marlin]

People use call on rowan?

[jade shore]

how do i beat this

[rigid birch]

just need to stall for ainz' 9/9

[high marlin]

I use grace on rowan bc it gives him hp and dodge

[exotic dew]

In place of who should I use Erion

[high marlin]

You're way too early to be worrying about mid game formations. Just use Saevas or Mirael until they cap out at 160

[wind hamlet]

Lineup for campaign ? In chapter 5-1 atm. Can get Wu Kong

[vivid vigil]

@wind hamlet off-topic but did you roll that celestial

[jade shore]

,

[wind hamlet]

Yes

[high marlin]

Who's giving you the most issues

[rigid birch]

Tasi
BRutus
Belinda
Lucius
Gorvo

[jade shore]

the kaz

[high marlin]

A lot of lower level people not using arden. Sadge

[jade shore]

she doesnt seem to die no matter what i do

[high marlin]

One of her skills allows her to auto dodge, so you gotta force that out early then she's easy

[exotic dew]

This is the lineup is use Damion izold shemira lucisius Neroma

[jade shore]

for me ?????

[high marlin]

Again, way too early in game for any of those characters to have value

[exotic dew]

They are a good comp

[jade shore]

so who should i use

[rigid birch]

saveas/mirael + 4 supports

in your case, belinda

[jade shore]

wait lemme take a pic of all my heroes for u

these are all my heroes

[rigid birch]

@jade shore do you have a friend who has ainz?

[jade shore]

no

[rigid birch]

you can try to search for one in #mercenary or ask nilas

[jade shore]

i have 40 of those stones

[wind hamlet]

.

[jade shore]

so who should i use

[rigid birch]

.

[jade shore]

the three u have leveled up and daimon

[high marlin]

No diamon lmao

[jade shore]

i used him when i was that chapter

and he helped

[rigid birch]

• tasi

[jade shore]

yeh @wind hamlet

[jade shore]

they got demolished when i tried that team

[wind hamlet]

Lucious , twins, Estradila, tasi and daimon ?

[high marlin]

Arden instead of twins

[jade shore]

but twins haste is amazing imo

[high marlin]

[wind hamlet]

😞😵 ...

[high marlin]

Arden is very powerful and honestly I wish I could still use him rn

[wind hamlet]

Would Shemira or Wu Kong be better than Estradila ?

[jade shore]

wu kong is a good carry

[wind hamlet]

Um soo .... Lucious, Arden, tasi, Wu kong and Estradila ?

[jade shore]

use twins instead of estrilda and make wu kong way higher level than ur other heroes

[wind hamlet]

I see

He does decent damage right ? Cuz then he would be the only one doing decent dmg

[jade shore]

thats what u want u want him to do crazy damage so make him like 30 to 40 levels higher than ur other heroes

[warm swan]

Get that wukong. Keep lvling him until you can't lvl him anymore. Then lvl 4 other heroes, fodder heroes ideally. That silv and arden for example. Then keep lvling wu again. Rinse and repeat until 100.

[wind hamlet]

Got it, Thnx guys 👍

[mortal basin]

Ayy, any1 can recommend a comp against this?

been trying for the last 2 days but i just cant seem to pass it

[worthy steeple]

Might be becasue your using Shemira and Lucious

[mortal basin]

imma change shemir to daimon as soon as i get my chap 24 stuff

also i made this acc 2 years ago

they were still meta iirc

[worthy steeple]

I would try using Grezhul and either Tasi or Brutus

[exotic dew]

Who should I level up

[jade shore]

daimon

[exotic dew]

You sure

[jade shore]

daimon worked really well for me in the later stages

[warm swan]

@exotic dew I remember telling you not to reset that L rosa and L thane unless you got the fodders ready because you're gonna get lvl capped

[versed rover]

I'll need some advice to build a new team guys because endow my team isn't working anymore

[exotic dew]

Is this fine @jade shore

[jade shore]

yeh

[warm swan]

He's still capped at 120 with that daimon

[jade shore]

u could run antandra instead of thoran

[warm swan]

He could have just leveled that 3 L heroes there, wait for more fodders to ascend to get 2 more, and he'll be able to go to 140. He can just put daimon in his rc then

[versed rover]

Can anyone helps me

[foggy grove]

Thanks, that worked out haha. Took a lot of retries though

[proper glade]

My team lasted 11 seconds. Umm yeah. How can I counteract the Mehira instant death ?

[random lance]

should i swap rosaline for Arden in this comp:
Mirael Thoran Lucius Rosaline Rowan

[foggy grove]

I think you’d have to use Nara. But have you tried eironn in middle?

[proper glade]

Yes, Eironn middle dies as well.

[foggy grove]

If that doesn’t work then I think Nara would be needed

[warm swan]

[proper glade]

I trier Athalia, looks promising so far. Will try Nara too. Thanks

It worked out after all xD

[hot hollow]

Im stilk rather new but i am getting suck at location 9

I need help building a team

[random lance]

getting destroyed here what do i do

[agile roost]

Help

[high marlin]

@exotic dew @hot hollow both of you read the pinned guides in the question channel

[hot hollow]

ok

[candid scaffold]

Can someone make me a team and give me some info about what does what

[fleet thistle]

i tried so many times, i still get destroyed

[pale kettle]

How should I arrange my lineup so I have the best outcome agaisnt marauders?

[sly talon]

I need help on this stage please.

[grizzled thicket]

what kinds of comps should i be looking at using with these heroes?

[fleet thistle]

chapter 24 lvl 319?

[pale kettle]

Going to throw my phone at a wall

[grizzled thicket]

hadn't used the server in a while so i've only just updated my name lmao

[fleet thistle]

damn still chapter 29 with that level u get it easy nice

im still stuck here, i tried alna also didn't work

[next sable]

What do you need comps for?

[grizzled thicket]

general use in campaign, keep hitting walls and my levels seem to be enough to pass where i'm at, just wondering about synergies etc

[next sable]

I see, I see. You really need a solid carry. As for what you can do with your current box, you'd probably have to run something joker/belinda centric

[maiden marsh]

your issue is a complete lack of built carries and even any +30SI

[grizzled thicket]

i had belinda as a main carry until around ch27 ish, she's 30SI and i'm trying to work on rowan for 30 next

out of what i have, what would be best to build as a carry?

[next sable]

Daimon

[grizzled thicket]

alright, he's at M rn so hopefully i can get him built first, would you recommend using GB emblems on him or finish Ferael first?

[sly talon]

Help anybody?

[next sable]

Daimon only needs 20 SI and 3F to work. Farael 30 isn't gamebreaking, but it isn't bad either. I'd personally just focus on getting Rowan +30 for now

[wind hamlet]

Who can I use instead of Hogan ?

[grizzled thicket]

nice, thanks for the help. Rowan's only 2 or 3 levels off now so i'll have him done soon

[sly talon]

Daimon, Cecilia, Shemira, Twins. Depending on the situation.

[wind hamlet]

Have only one resonating slot open atm.

[versed maple]

Il struggling to pass this level

[pale kettle]

Switch daimon with Lyca and then maybe Brutus for Luc and swap with Rowan

[patent hemlock]

Ideas?

I’m trying not to use a merc yet but if need be I will!

[summer cedar]

luci brutus lyca rowan daimon

[summer cedar]

albedo alna ainz rowan brutus didn't work?

[woven mason]

I m a bit desperate at this stage. I tried everything that I could think of. I could ascend to M somebody but I don t know who would help

[fleet thistle]

nope

alna dies instantly every time

i tried with ferael and she survived a bit longer but still not working

[lone wren]

u need a better gwyn or q better belinda

[lone wren]

daimon rowan joker ferael tasi

[maiden marsh]

Copy the top clear and merc a good gwyn/belinda based on what they used

[patent hemlock]

Silvina is one shotting my tasi, don’t think she can even get the dodge off at that point. But I’ll keep trying!

[lone wren]

try a backline saf in place of lucuis those enemies hit fast and your eirron isnt that good

if he doesnt have M gear or higher he will not work

[lone wren]

if u can make roean the lowest deff guy u should be fine

u can always rng dodge if u got weapon and boots stared up

[patent hemlock]

Just would have to pray for the rng, even with no gear rowan doesn’t get targeted by her, my tasi is quite a bit lower than him

[lone wren]

stop making L heroes and u will probably want to reset silas and brutus soon for some L+ heroes

for now try ainz brutus fawkes silad daimon

if u feel like u need the cc seitch silad for an arden

[shut bluff]

Any help with this one guys ?? Eironn is destroying me!

[lone wren]

either out pull him with your own eirron or wait on the dodge rng

Rowan wont survive long vs the ira and lyca duo

showing us your hero box would help

[shut bluff]

He out eironns my Eironn unfortunately 😦

[lone wren]

that's because he got lyca
a call eirron with lyca will do it

that nemora modt likely interrupts him first since its 120 deficit

[lone wren]

may want to try brutus rowan ferael pippa daimon

pippa will nesd good factioned t1 boots to pull the tele off with no lyca need
may need a call but usually it goes well

[shut bluff]

Tried pippa 😦

[lone wren]

not fast enough?

can always try athalia in p1 instead

pippa is nice there either way for she can acorn the tasi and that is a silence

she cant trigger tele when acorn'ed

[shut bluff]

I can’t use athalia as it brings my attack rating too low and won’t let me fight hhaah

[lone wren]

damn

try tasi brutus lyca pippa daimon maybe

[maiden marsh]

I was eager to share my lineup but I ainzed that stage lol

[smoky anvil]

Any ideas? Feel like I'm going crazy on this stage

[shut bluff]

Hahahah I thought you might’ve 😉

I find ainz just underpowered in this chapter 😦 his ult doesn’t do anything lol

[lone wren]

do brutus daimon ferael nara rowan

showing us hero box helps

[shut bluff]

This seems to get a little further than my other tries ! Wirh Eironn using call. I usually like him to use shroud of verdure lol

[smoky anvil]

I didn't cause I don't think most of these would do anything haha

[smoky anvil]

This almost worked 1st try, I think I'm going to stick with it for a bit

Dude I did like 100 tries on it, and this comp worked so easily 2nd try lol, thank you SOOOOOO MUCH

[lone wren]

should work as well but i doubt eirron can do much than extra cc

if u found it going well swap lyca and daimon position to get the aoe from stitchy
burst should be more valuable than energy pots here

[lone wren]

[high marlin]

If you put your eironn in the back row he can usually pull the other eironn

[grand saffron]

is my team comp good?

[tepid dagger]

I need help not I can't complete this one or level up due to low blue dust

[smoky anvil]

only level 5 heroes, reset the rest and put them on the resonating crystal

[tepid dagger]

That's what I have done haha buut yeah still unable to progress

[smoky anvil]

yeah you've put yourself in a pretty bad spot by getting so many heroes to legendary that you can't upgrade to L+, I recommend reading the pinned guide on #classic-questions

[tepid dagger]

Alright thanks (:

Dang so it's it better if I just restart the game?

[fickle gale]

Stuck on this, any ideas?

Skreg is just one-shotting people

[high marlin]

Lorsan is good against him

[cosmic mountain]

Should I use my reset scroll on anyone?

[dark niche]

Hey people, newbie here, i wanted to ask some questions about team comp.
I know that the beginner's guide said that you should use Wukong as a carry but i was wondering if someone i pulled could be a better replacement.
And about tanks and supports, who should i focus on? Here is a screen of my Heroes.

[slender hornet]

Stuck on chapter 25. What would be a better lineup?

[high marlin]

Nah wu kong will be fine till he hit level 100

[jolly zenith]

Stuck here, any suggestions?

[high marlin]

Lyca over ainz, Eironn over Lucius. You can do tasi over thoran but that's up to you

You can't do both ainz and diamon, and since you don't have albedo of your own just sideline him for a bit

[woven mason]

rowan is the best supp from normal factions and daymon is the best carry after wukong (but until 160 level you can use saveas or mirael). You are very lucky that you got talene bcs cele are very hard to get and talene is probably the best support for this early game

[woven mason]

you are so overleveled that you shouldn t need merc at all and Luc isn t good tank at higher deficit. Try using this page and you should find good lineups to win that stage https://afkhelper.nax.is/

[woven mason]

put shemira on 161 and you ll be amazed. Eirron isn t that good carry before 240 level

[woven mason]

at this stage your eirron has extra problem that you put him in front of brutus who apsolutely destroy eirron because brutus prevents heroes from dodge

[pale kettle]

[27-30] Trying to figure out what is blocking me here.

[maiden marsh]

get daimon to +20, then use rowan tasi ferael lyca daimon

[pale kettle]

You recommended this to me when I was on chapter 23 and it boosted me all the way to 27.

[jolly zenith]

@woven mason thank you for the advice, I’ll try it out now

[maiden marsh]

one or the other of ainz or daimon carry. try daimon carry, lineup rowan tasi lyca ferael daimon

[pale kettle]

I was, he's stuck here too 😦

[woven mason]

It s hard to play ainz/albedo without arthut or some serius tank in front of ainz. Plus you can t play ainz without rowan

[pale kettle]

Ok I can get arthur real quick.

Do I need to invest in Arthurs SI?

Who best to fuse Arthur to?

[woven mason]

yea, It s not bad with low SI but he really shines with SI, armor, and 3 fur. The more you invest in him, the more he tanks and longer your ainz lives

[woven mason]

cecilia probably

[pale kettle]

kk

[woven mason]

grez could be fine choice as well

[pale kettle]

I went with grez because the star and I can't see grez in a comp with him

This look right?

[woven mason]

that comp would look like this so you can only switch fareal for tasi, lyca or some other extra supp. I m not sure that you would use cecilia there but I guess that s possible

[marsh nymph]

Arthur in front of ainz

And maybe talene front bedo back

[woven mason]

place nara instead talene

[pale kettle]

nara?

[woven mason]

yes, safya cage is midfuck so if you can remove here then you ll probably win 50% of battle

[balmy hinge]

Just beat chapter 10 and got this, so which should i pick?

[pale kettle]

Don't think I have a nara.

[woven mason]

E+ is fine. Or athalia

[pale kettle]

Actually don't have one at all.

[woven mason]

whichever you need

[marsh nymph]

most likely graveborn as you'll need a lot of fodder there to ascend ~6 ish gb

[woven mason]

hahahahahahaha I m a bit worried about that

[balmy hinge]

I already have the grave born fodder l+

[pale kettle]

Yeah surprised as well.

[woven mason]

you do have her on wishlist?

[pale kettle]

I wonder if I might have used her by accident, I take ambien and night and do some weird stuff.

[marsh nymph]

yes but later in the game you'll need a bunch of gb fodder to ascend like 6 of them. they need a lot of food

[balmy hinge]

Her right?

[pale kettle]

Yeah I just checked I 100% used her as fodder for something.

[balmy hinge]

Oh okay

[woven mason]

do you have athalia?

[pale kettle]

Yes

[woven mason]

then use her. She can miss but after few retries it should work

[balmy hinge]

When is this chest useful?

[marsh nymph]

Take it to #classic-questions

[balmy hinge]

Oh oops thought this was questions

[smoky anvil]

Suggestions for TR? I have a saurus merc

[maiden marsh]

copy the top lineup as best you can

[smoky anvil]

where can I find that?

[maiden marsh]

leaderboards for your twisted realm

[smoky anvil]

Ahhhh makes sense, ty

who could replace grez?

[pale lagoon]

Any ideas?

[fleet thistle]

can anyone help im still stuck, i tried alna but didn't work, tried lots of times

[woven mason]

I just passed that few days ago on 4 accounts

[fleet thistle]

[woven mason]

I can t see my wins from battles from chapters that I solved already so you could add me as friend and you might see my teams on recomanded

[woven mason]

but you don t know what is pain until you come to stage 29-54

[next sable]

https://afkhelper.nax.is/campaign.php?chapter=29&stage=52

[fleet thistle]

i've altready checked on afk helper

nothind i can "afford" lol

[next sable]

just copy tree, i'm pretty sure he uses the most budget daimon comps and wins lol

[fleet thistle]

oh yeah maybe because my tree is shit

[maiden marsh]

no he means tree3

[woven mason]

tree3 player

[fleet thistle]

oh lol

[next sable]

i'm not talking about your elder tree, i'm talking about tree3

[fleet thistle]

i miss tasi

i could do a lot of these formations if it wasn't for tasi

[woven mason]

that s big rip. She s very important in many stages. Your best option in future is to get fur on skriath, arthur and tasi you ll be able to push far

[fleet thistle]

so i have no alternatives? rip

i have e+ tasi i don't think that's enough lol

[woven mason]

give me a sec, maybe I can find my teams if they didn t use tasi

[fleet thistle]

if u send me your id i'll add u as a friend

so i can see the formation

[brave oriole]

@fleet thistle should be okay. Is your ferael geared? I guess that eironn setup would work better, even with tasi elite. I hope so. Try
Tasi
Rowan
Eironn
Lyca
Ferael
You can swap lyca ferael if lyca have better chances to dodge athalia. Artifacts, try eye and call on eironn to see what's better

[fleet thistle]

yes ferael* has full t2

no si 30 tho

[brave oriole]

Don't need si+30,just you have to dodge athalia at all, so try lyca and ferael to see what's better to dodge. Tasi should banish shem

[fleet thistle]

relics?

[next sable]

relics? do you mean artifacts?

[fleet thistle]

ye

[woven mason]

lyca, fareal eye, tasi, rowan and eirron call

[woven mason]

I just realized you can t use my teams with eirron bcs he has 30 SI

[next sable]

Ferael
Rowan
Eironn
Daimon
Brutus

[woven mason]

brutus know to be problematic bcs alna and boost he energy using him and fareal is RNG fest so you would need to run makros whole night

[fleet thistle]

ok ferael kind dodges but everyone gets destroyed

lyca just dies

[brave oriole]

Put something def on lyca, grace or so, chalice rowan call tasi

[next sable]

I don't know what you're trying to say about brutus. He's there to tank athalia lol. ferael isn't as RNG as you're claiming him to be either

[woven mason]

how good is weapon and boots on fareal and lyca?

[fleet thistle]

boots lyca t2 and wep t1

ferael wep t2 boots t1

[woven mason]

from my experience after brutus dies athalia has ult right away and kills whole team. Same with alna. I don t know why but that s what I ususally see

[fleet thistle]

yes, i tried

[woven mason]

how many stars? and are they faction?

[fleet thistle]

5

[next sable]

try the comp i sent at least 10-20 times and let me know how its going

[fleet thistle]

this?

[next sable]

yup. Make sure brutus is naked, call on rowan and daimon, eye on fera and eironn

[fleet thistle]

ok ill'try

[woven mason]

and put barier on brutus

[woven mason]

and if you don t use fareal to dodge athalia then remove weapon from him

[frosty wadi]

Need help and what’s the best team I could make

[woven mason]

for start stop making L heroes without copies for L+. Second try to put shemira in top fronline

and rowan behind her

[frosty wadi]

I did but the others die

[fleet thistle]

i tried athalia ults and destroys me

[woven mason]

well shemira is made to carry solo these stages. Others just support her until she gets her ult

[fleet thistle]

i don't have barrier tho

what do i put on brutus

[woven mason]

get it in trials of god