#lineup-help
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any tips?
yeah thats just a hard stage for ainz. If you have eironn, put him in 4 and rowan in 1, albedo in 3
That silvinia is probably one-shotting either your ainz or rowan, I personally used my daimon instead of ainz for those stages
I kill the silvinia no problem
She did 0 damage last time
Hardstuck here
Show more of your box please
Halp pls
Swap your frontline and swap tasi with Eironn and Eironn with shemira
Like this
Shemira
Tasi
Eironn
Brutus
Nemora
yoo how do I deal with this? It's always ainz & antandra vs 2 brutus at the end, the difference is those brutus still have immunity
Try with Fawkes instead of Lyca.
(Give him her gear).
Play manually and ult Fawkes only after the immunities are up.
He will purge it.
@pale kettle Shem, Brutus, Rosa, Rowan, some flex maybe. Blade on Shem, call on Rowan
Anyone have any tips for this stage? Been stuck for a bit
yelp
Should I sacrfice Thoran to make my Daimon legendary or keep him ?
I suggest reading pins in #classic-questions buddy
Thx I’ll look them up

Take out saurus, put in daimon. And rowan frontline if he can survive
Take out nara, put in brutus facing estrilda. Rowan back mid, daimon back top or bottom
nope daimon ded
what i can do? no brutus cuz faction bonus
Been stuck here for like 2 days pls save me
Help pls
35-4 sucks :(
Don't put ainz in front line
what else ?
Idk I'm not that great at this game
Help for 3 teams for legends? Can't seem to score any points since my ainz team blasts but my other 2 teams usually dissappoint
Need help.
Gywneth aint that great early game the typical meta is 3 supports 1 tank 1 carry I'd try Lyca, Lucius, Arden, Rowan, Belinda. See if you have any luck with that
Edit: or since you got her Mythic you can swap Belinda for Egypt girl there but then you lose the 3-2 combo boost
who should my main carry be from these
Personal preference, daimon
Help? Kinda used up all my good guys at this point lol
oke never mind i beat it
if someone doesn't come up with something better uh front line rowan antandra backline skriath safiya and pippa i guess?
I mean in the end it's all dependent on the enemy team
Best bet rn for you would probably be to reset Red hair and go with Rowan Estrilda Gwenyth Safiya and maybe Skriath/Pippa, try building gwenyth. She can be a really good early game carry
@patent hemlock can pippa carry?
I’ve never really used him much, never gotten too many copies of him. You could try and build him also seeing as you have him e+ already, but for now try using gwenyth as your carry
Back line could be (in this order) rowan gwenyth safiya, frontline could be estrilda pippa, they can always move around depending on what you’re going against though
Or should i just use a different account? Mu rolls were kinds shite lool
not a reliable carry that's what it is
That’s all up to you tbh lol, are you willing to start over?
afk is a long term investment game first few bad rolls won't screw you over
That’s true ^
So this comp can still be successful in a way?
For now yes, see how you like your future rolls and how you build everyone up and go from there
If you need anymore help pm me if you want, I’m on this game too much for my own liking 🥴
Try putting gwenyth in the middle and replace Arthur and Hogan with eachother? Try a couple times
Also you should have a carry, try getting either your gwenyth or belinda to about 140~160 before moving your other heroes up
Will do thank you sir
👍🏼
Help plz I’m stuck on the second battle, first battle ainz can do his thing but the second battle I’m struggling lol, any input is very much appreciated 😂
@livid lion merc saurus
u can copy my first team, and use ur ainz on the second maybe.
What’s the exact formation?
what do u mean?
formation is 1-5 as shown
Yeah no my bad the photo wasn’t loading, thanks
nw
I’ll try it
Suggestions for lineups to run with Daimon? I'm at chapter 14
@smoky anvil 4-5 gb team
I was using Daimon Thoran Silas Rowan and 1 flex, which Gb's do u recommend?
@smoky anvil u can try this or 4 random gb heroes and daimond
I see thanks
:(
Shem for now then
Been here for a few weeks, any ideas?
oh ok thanks but i she kinda dies really quickly ill try to power level and see if she doesnt
Thanks it worked
no problem
once she reaches a certain level she can safely be on the front line for quite a few chapters
if you get daimon tho def invest he's been carrying me since I got him
help
I tried this but thoran instead of brutus it's working well, tyvm
How bout that lineup @lapis oar ? What can i use
@patent hemlock
Or anyonev what lineup should i use?
tasi and lyca for sure
Estrilda izold frontline, tasi lyca gwenyth backline
mmmm estrilda pretty meh early game tho
Gwenyth in middle
Gwyneth is the carry?
Yes
Yeah but doesn’t have much to work with though
i would suggest skreg but i honestly don't remember how well he does early game
Same
Posted the wrong stage by accident. Any suggestions are appreciated!
can you borrow a nara to hook in eironn or something
How about raku is he not a carry?
no
Can an E+ Nara do the job? I’m still a couple of days away from mercing
E+ nara can always do the job
i'm not sure how exactly it'll go but if it can disturb his burst in the beginning give it a go
I also thought thane was magnificent?
thane is awful
Thanks! @lapis oar
he's a glass cannon
ayy glad it worked out
Hi, I just reinstalled the game after 1 year and I’m not sure which heroes to focus on
Your first picture won’t load for me for some reason but from I see focus on rowan and daimon for sure, eironn also, what chapter?
22-44
hmm that’s weird I’ll resend it to you in private
Go for it
Can somebody help me on this stage? I'm kinda stuck.
Rowan Brutus/Lucius Daimon Eironn Tasi
Helppp
Rowan Tasi Diamon Eironn Brutus
@ebon hazel I'm stuck. Can you help me?
Put Eironn where Rowan is and Rowan on front
Like this?
So like turn the triangle of Daimon Rowan and Eironn so Eironn is in the center
yes
And then drop Rosa for Tasi or arden, and put Lucius in the front
Might drop Lucius for Brutus
This Rowan insta-dead.
I honestly dont think he can frontline.
@ebon hazel It didn't work, but I did get closer.
Do you have Nemora? @sly talon ?
Any Nemora.
Scratch it then :)
I only have 15 diamonds.
💳
I'm F2P.
Same.
For the future.
Shes the easiest way to deal with Ferael this early on.
Put her opposite to him.
Retry until she charms him.
And he will terrorize/destroy his own team
@sly talon
If Rowan instantly dies, try Lucius Brutus Tasi Rowan Daimon
Uhh. Is that in order from position #1-5?
Alright, I'll try that and get back to you.
It doesn't work. Tasi just insta dies from the Angelo and doesn't get a chance to Banish.
Rosa then?
Nope, doesn't work either.
My biggest problem on this stage is the Ferael and the Belinda. Both destroying me.
Not so much Belinda.
Ferael is a problem.
A big problem.
So, I got very close on the last attempt, where only Ferael survived.
I can maybe try RNG.
Try like this.
Daimon
Lucius
Rowan
Brutus
Tasi
Nope. Not even close, whole enemy team survives.
I have a Cecilia, will putting Cecilia on Ferael do anything?
A lot of it is completely random.
Give it a few tries.
It depends vastly on what Ferael fears.
@past urchin Nope. None of the attempts got even close.
Sadge.
Well...then keep trying with whatever worked best I guess.
Good luck!
@past urchin I GOT PAST IT, but I'm stuck on the last stage before I unlock stargazing.
imo brutus will stall longer than thoran
For sure.
@past urchin Then what do I use?
imo brutus/lyca/daimon/rowan/arden
brutus will stall
lyca gives haste so arden can root once
lyca/rowan battery daimon
That isn't working either.
@past urchin Any ideas?
You have Cecilia?
Me?
Yup, you
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Lucius
Ceci
Try like this.
@past urchin 😦 Not working either.
I want to unlock Stargazing so bad.
Thats a pretty rough stage :/
Gb heavy teams are a pain in genetal.
What would you want to stargaze anyway.
Its waaaaaaaaaaaaay too early to stargaze with diamonds for you.
@sly talon
I was just in the same spot nether. All excited to use my 30 cards and got a whole lot of nothing.
I'm trying to stargaze for EXP and Dust and faction cards...
You will likely (almost guaranteed) get 1 copy as the 1st 10 pull is rigged.
And thats it realistically.
Dont Stargaze with diamonds yet.
Unless you are planning to spend a lot of money on the game.
And definitely dont if you are f2p
I'm not planning on stargazing with diamonds...
I did that stage with lyca ainz tasi Rowan Arden btw
60
That definitely isn't gonna work for me. None of those heroes are even one of my main heroes that I've been building.
Thats...
Maybe 2 copies of a hero.
I don't need a hero. I need the other stuff.
I don't care if I get 0. It's way too early for me to build any of the cel/hypos.
Some dont need much.
Like what?
@past urchin I just got some diamonds from King's Tower, should I put Nemora on crystal?
Just remove someone and wait a day.
Its a marathon, not a sprint.
I mean.
You can do whatever Its your account.
But I dont guarantee that Nemora will do it.
So Id just keep my diamonds.
@past urchin If I do use Nemora, what would the formation be?
Lucius
Brutus
Nemora
Daimon
Rowan
Or swap Daimon and Rowan if Daimon dies.
And a lot of retries until Nemora charms Ferael.
Be ready for that.
Should I keep Ainzing this or would Daimon be the better carry here?
Wouldn't that make it so only Daimon and Nemora can get Rowan's potions?
Yes.
But you cant put him elsewhere.
He wont survive 5 sec up front against such GB heavy team.
Not yet.
They really went ahead and said let’s put all of the cancerous heroes on the same team.
Anyways any suggestions are appreciated!
Worth noting that the enemy tasi would always banish eironn>ferael>daimon
alna is good with healers.
Silas/Tasi
Rowan
ferael
Alna
daimon
Tasi
Eironn
Rowan
Brutus
Daimon
Maybe...
Id cut Daimon off the cart range normally for fast Eironn ult, but he wont ult anyway given the banish scenario here.
@pale kettle
You can try Ferael too.
I try not to use him.against Tasi.
His spirits are a fuel for her blinks.
And her blinks destroy you.
Or
Ferael
Brutus
Tasi
Rowan
Daimon
Downgrade Ferael's weapon to a legendary one.
@pale kettle
do joker brutus rowan tasi and daimon
In that order?
see if arden is banished
it should be a problem since 3nod yhose units can shield or dodge his roots either way
yes
Eironn ends up being the one getting banished
doubt its faster than the pull
should be fine either way
I’ll lyk how it goes, rn I just keep getting demolished but battle lasts a while so might work
My rowan is just getting beat up is the only problem I think
he got to eat it
he's among the few that can live the dive wirh what u got
u can alternatively try to switch Brutus and him
there's not a whole lot of dmg on that side ans ira should target joker.
show hero box and srop making L heroes
hero box?
usually u want to push ine Legendary carry super high like mirael
she will carry u farther than any Ascended tier hero now
what heroes u got
Question, What’s the reasoning for not making L heroes? Never really understood that
u slow progression for heroes u most likely got no copies of and u may very well get none in the future
irs best to ger 1 carry Legendary tier hero to L+ and do whichever ascended hero to A right away when u get the copies untill u got 5 A heroes
Hm, gotcha
A?
reset lyca and gwyn for now snd work on getting mirael to L+
u will get the copies soon enough
u will later need to reset the rest most likely but that raimon can wait,u may get an E copy to donsume the leveled one to ans get a free reset
focua on having your highest 5 in pentagram Legednary tier elheroes with high ascension like the guides in #questions
Ascended
ascension tiers are rare,rare + ,elite ,e+ mythic,m+ ,Ascendes
@lone wren :’) i switched daimon to mid and tasi at 5 and it worked like that
Levels are capped behind ascension.
To get a hero to L is easy.
But then you need 2 more copies of exactly that hero to make it L+
With ascended tier heroes it may take a long time to get these copies.
Thats why we build fodder heroes to L+
They are just easier to obtain
@patent hemlock
congrats
Makes sense, thanks for the explanation!
guides are extremely underrated
u can very very very easily get yourself stuck 3 chapters behind what u can actually push
One more question, I shouldn’t even bother using the swap scroll on anyone rn correct?
Nope.
so to make it simple.
reset gwyneth and lyca.
give the exp to zephrael?
Keep it @patent hemlock
Thought the same, thanks 👍🏼
I’m gonna cry. That’s the third time now
most suggest keeping it for a while until u know what u want
Always on -20% hp too 😭
give it to mirale or saeves
whoever got the most copies rn
preferably mirael
i dont have any copies of both
u clearly do in the screen shot and u will ger more very easily
u know how the ascension goes right? just need one more e+ mirael
Dont frontline Daimon.
Dont middle pull either.
You are dragging 2 bulldozers right in the middle of your formation @pale kettle
well ya i have one but idk how to get the other
since im kind of stuck rn and cant advance so reseting my gwyn and lyca isnt the best idea in my view
by scrolls and rare and E stones
u will get her in time its easy enough to get rare hero copies
patience is the name of the game early
both wont carry u
daimon may be able to but u lack any good tanks at good ascension
hmm
Frontlining Rowan had worse results as he never really got to ult. Daimon is always the last one standing even when put infront.
Not really sure what do with eironn though. He does no damage so I’m not sure where to put him
Might give up on him.
He would be great in 1 if he could ult.
But he cant cause banish.
Try the Ferael one I gave you.
But make sure to downgrade the weapon on him.
@pale kettle
What does downgrading weapons do?
remove eirron
put a brutus in slot 1 and the alna in 2 and slot in a tasi and move Rowan mid
verk will demolish position 1 and 4 and u will need more cc
a current bug makes ferael fear faster without M t1 weapon equipped
Makes him fear faster.
You want to outfear enemy Fera.
If he gets his fear faster you are just dead.
This is a thing???????
slot eye on fera if u get the proc u most likely win
Yup.
Power cap
huh 130 deficit is thst early ?
kinda cringe
Any ideas on this one 🥲
If you keep pushing this hard forget about E heroes altogether soon @pale kettle
HOW ARE YOU GETTING SO FAR WITH THAT TYPE OF TEAM. OML-
rowan brurus daimon joker and tasi or ferael
daimon is op
I should push some more then
I know Daimon is OP, but how.
Hes got 3 furn is how
Daimon is just broken. He does HP% based damage so level deficit never matters
+30 Rowan
Thats how.
he's extremely op if invested early
very few matchups mess him up early game
most gb heroes scale indefinitely
You guys are-
I'm so tempted to feed my Shemira to my Daimon now.
Getting tasi to 220 didn’t work. Are they really gonna make me reset my eironn.....
Dew it
That's it. I'm doing it, screw Shemira, I don't use her anyways.
It wont be easy Wraith.
You are in quite a deficit for ch 26.
Should I build my ferael?
He would work at M with SI.
But you may get stuck with him.for a bit cuz only 4 copies.
Id wait.
yes
Still.
Id wait for copies.
Its a serious investment to M a hero.
And you only have 4
So ferael over Izold y’all would say?
Any day
as a sup dps and supoort yes
Bet
Izold would be 100% useless without at least +20 3/9
Besides you already have a powerful carry and quite a bit until multis.
Yeah you’re right
I’ve been working on this joker for so long, all I finally need left is t3 stones
Ch 30 and onwards :)
Well no nvm lol, 5 more levels for lvl30 si
Not sure if it was a mistake or not but I decided to get my rowan to si30 before my joker
Nono that was a very good move.
Rowan is the first 30 you should get ever.
Its gamebreaking.
Ah thank god
Finally! Thanks @past urchin @lone wren !!!
Gz Wraith
ty ty
Just noticed your name is Game Over 👁👄👁
It is xD
revo mag
sounds like a romanian name
I kept reading it as “Revo Mage”
Omg the plot twist
Yeah
T2 boots and weapon.
Chest /hat doesnt matter its flat stats
For your Rowan I mean.
Focus boots and weapon first then?
Aye.
For dodge.
Got it, I have enough for a t2 stone so hopefully it pops up in shop tonight 😅
I’ve been working on Fawkes for a while, I feel like he’s a little under appreciated with his de buffs and coffin.
Hes a worse Tasi.
Thats all I can tell you.
Shit
Much worse Tasi
I barely have my tasi built, I got her si to 20 but her gear is garbage sadly. I’ve been meaning to work on her too
tasi has an amazing ult and better cc than fawkes along with top tier survivability, none of which fawkes has
Coffin has a longer duration but shields prevent it.
It can also be dodged.
Tasi banish goes through everything except plain immunity.
She looking a lil iffy rn 🥲
get the weapon and boots up, slap call on her, and she's gtg
I need some wilder boots and I’ll be in a lot better shape, I have 2 stones for her
^
Same story as Rowan.
Also eventually get her SI to 25
But thats not a priority.
She'd be fine at 15,but since u got 20 already...might as well.
Somebody help me on this stage. Please.
@maiden marsh @past urchin appreciate it guys :’)
And dont go 30.
The effect itself is not much better than +10.
Its about the haste she gets at 15 and 25.
So leave her SI at 25?
Yup.
Dont even bother for now.
Its still 100 reds you can use better.
Yeah ima still use the ones I get soon for jokers 30
Then once you get your Ferael you can use them both with Daimon as your main carry.
Ferael works great with Joker.
His fear will auto proc All Out Attack.
Happy times.
I need more feraels then 😅
You do anyway.
Hes a great hero.
Pleasee someone help
This is driving me crazy, who should I merc to crack this stage?
@sly talon i used nara a lot here, to disrupt and stall for the isabella, which is usually my biggest problem in these matchups
also using brutus as a tank was key
lucius won’t be surviving longer than brutus can, after his 141 now
my comp was basically always daimon rowan brutus, lyca/tasi/nara interchangably
@small mesa 1. Eirron 2. Tasi 3. Joker 4.gwyneth 5. Lyca try that
I hate the mauler tower this stage has me stuck
verk is a solution
got to Rowan it ains will never tank it good enough/in time usualy with shield and cojnting on albedo doing her stun isnt very optimal
u dont eant him to be under atk that early
i used daimon in this stage he works surprisingly well vs ezizh
tasi rowan daimon lyca ferael dir the trick in under 100 retries
it will always look close untill u see where the athalia ult lands
I've tried Rowan swapped with Ainz, but Ainz tanking seemed to get closer. Been left a couple times with just brutus and his fucking shield at the end.
Does Daimon need to be +30?
@lone wren Do I have similar levels/si/furn as you used?
i had a higher ferael 209 but should work
rn you only need his 3 since the 3rd rework it does what the 9 did when i had it
I did it with 103 post rework as well
also you've been in ch30 a long ass time haven't you yance 
Hm alright thanks, now just to retry like a maniac
i suffered immensely for a long time yes but in 29
i stopped pushing at all when i hit 30
the CS around here know a thing or two about being overleveled 
i just relax on alts now and do random stuff on main
def got the heroes and the investment to hit 32
I’m stuck currently on 32-4 I plowed through 31 with joker eirron burst team
show team
Lul Truth
we need the enemy team too lol
and what is this, pvp?
no meant enemy team
and hero box
PM me some good advice please
@eternal ocean need nara, try vs mehira then vs safiya, see how's better. So like
Nara
Rowan
Ainz
Arthur
Albedo
@vapid field try fawkes to coffin Ferael
pretty much stuck here and would appreciate some assistance! :’) afk helper is full of Ainz and Daimon; I have neither which is fantastic
bottom row of second image is Flora, Baden, Arden
my heroes are moderately outdated as I stopped playing for about a year due to extenuating circumstances, so advice re who to build/who to buy from store would also be appreciated!
brutus rowan daimon/ainz ,arden lyca
ainz and daimon just die , that's why I went back to saveas
Is ezizh a carry?
no
Can someone tell me which lineup to use because i am stuch at stage 18-32 with one that i use 🙁
i need help for just a general team to use
tbh this should be a #classic-questions post
follow the pinned guide in #classic-questions. for your main heroes, I'd use izold, brutus, saf, lucr, wukong until you get lv 100 heroes
relink ainz to belinda, then try brutus lucius ainz rowan and a flex slot like lorsan or nemora or something
@maiden marsh okay i will try that 🙂 thanks
Anyone got any ideas for positioning here those damn totems keep messing up my targeting
Anyone got a line up build recommendation for me please?
saveas nukes anyone in his way,need beefy tank or immuntiy
tryu a brutus if u got him ir a golus
if not slot that L hogan with rowan
posting hero pool will help me help you
and no your level isnt low
also thats a ...nice pfp u got there
def aeems like smth else st first glance
I thought the same 🥴

read pins here and in #classic-questions to get a better idea
post hero pool
but for now try brutus,tasi,Arden/ferael,rowan,daimon
@lone wren
this is very rng heavy anr both your carries are over leveled
just slot in better tanks and cc
good tanks at your level are methoz,brutus,goulas ,hogan etcand make Rowan in postion 4
if thr hogan dies too early (under 10 sec) slot brutus in crystal and do the same formation u recommended above
any recommended lineup for wriz or soren that incorporates Silas (9/9 furn, si30)?
you could try slotting him in for other supports like raine but I doubt it will be an improvement
Im tryna have a great team but idk if mine is good tbh (My team is the heroes that are leveled up)
i was thinking of pairing him with mortas, raine, twins and saurus. but idk
read pins her3 and in #classic-questions and stop making Legendary heroes
still too early for making teams

@lone wren no luck I guess I’m just not strong enough
cant beat this art of conquest for my life pls help
Why is shemira in the front lines
everyone else dies too quick
Mages tend to be pretty fragile so moght wana put shemira behind the tanks
Oof, search a guide for the bear relics to take
i use the 5+ targets reduced damage and more damage to tanks
Is silas melee or ranges
melee i think
shemira doesn’t die tho, my problem is that my team doesn’t do enough damage in time so i lose the fight
Oof
I need help
no one really dies tho
Ah, do u jave any other damage dealers
Oof idk then, try contacting aomebody more experienced than me
🥲
@patent hemlock can u help me with my stage
@molten jasper myb merc a daimon on an eironn instead of lucius
Try Izold in place of flora, maybe talene or tasi in place of wu kong
Never really been good at helping with stages 😅
@celest zinc try it with shem, brutus, rosa, rowan, nem. Give some haste to nem so she can charm isa. Blade on shem
Sorry I went somewhere
Help
he prob not even online anymore
Could i beat this stage? Ive been stuck for a couple days
u would just need higher ascension most likely
try hogan silvina arden rowan and daimon
All i need ia 3 more seavas and 2 more fire girl 
In that order right?
yea
The problem here is that i need to ascend the fodders to L so i can get the heroes in the crystal stronger

u need better tanks and more cc in the team
Hm...
Need help with this one in campaign. All my guys literally die out and I've been stuck for 2 days
just needs ascension
your levels are on bar but ascension low
gwyn position 4, arden 3, lyca 5.
- reset antandra. only need 5 units levelled.
@summer cedar ty for that way about this One?
Any ideas, I’m a bit stuck here
tf?! u went backwards?
Nope 2nd account
😂
Help, been stuck here a while lol https://i.gyazo.com/227f71d220ec803bd8d22b78b108e65e.jpg
I changed my formation and im winning, but i run out of time before i could kill the last 2 guys. What i wanna ask is if i could replace daimon for someone who won't die fast, but also does enough damage for me to kill them without the timer running out?
Or someone who could boost cecila strength?
Last elite
get nara to pull either shem or Isabella, or tasi to banish them and get rid of Belinda, put daimon in back row and get Brutus to tank for him
Thank you, I’ll try that
is your daimon +20
arthur albedo ainz rowan nara
Havent used my merc this week so could try to merc a Nara, anything here as a viable Nara swap for that comp for now?
E nara or athalia are there to interrupt bats. do no need asc
swap rowan and daimon
ok thanks
do arthur rowan gwyn ainz numisu
u would want a fera in that last spot but he may not work
need both cc and anir heals.on SI
Last stage of 27 when i place daimon behind brutus thane goes after him nara becasue I think she's good against mehira
Chalice is on rowan and brutus
Daimon has call
Ferael has eye
where do i put numisu
u need a good haste lvl on nara or slot in lyca
u want her to cancel bats
5 in that order
Although nara did cancel bats i think my team needs ferael
top back is gywn, middle back ainz, numisu is down back, and arthur & rowan front?
I won with 2 seconds left 
try replacing brutus w lyca, but make sure she has good gear
ye
who's causing u the most toruble?
At least mythic weapon and boots?
Yes, if she doesn't have any good ones then if ur eironn is built use his gear
let me check logs
i doubt
did she not show the 3 bats symbol above her head?
sometimes ir visually bugs
okau so ankhira and the axe throw guy does the most
unfortunately takes my numisu and gwyn 10 seconds into the match
well the axe guy needs good gwyn stun rng is all but ankhira is tough
might need fera in after all even at e+
I can't get rid of him 
@lone wren replied
not sure why you are neglecting your hogan
Bat symbol did not show
I hate mr bat boy
Should have used hogan from the start🤦♂️ destroyed this stage quickly
oden most likely dies
dont frontline daimon here if saeves targets him
Can anyone help me with what heroes I should be using in my main lineup and for Guild Boss?
Main Account:
numisu
he got interrupts
great SI
on demand global cc
good scalling into longer barrels
Second Account:
use alot of buffers and merc a saurus +30
he dies mega quick, any way to protect him?
He was just so useless on the last stage that i forgot he existed
i am definitely not sure why you are neglecting your rowan
Can someone help me manage my box and choose main lineup?
zaph, tasi, brutus, saveas, and wu kong @rain karma
zaph top left, tasi frontline top, brutus frontline bottom, saveas bottom left, wu kong in middle
keep in mind zaph is for stuns and so is brutus- the objective is to get wu kong his ult
Well .. should i reset those no fodders? Cuz i leveled them before i knew about fodders thing
Great ill do so
^
what do you mean by no fodders
A units i already leveled like zaph and wu kong
I reset them and put resources in fodders .. is tht good idea?
perfect. take advantage of thoran and brutus's invincibility periods in order to get ainz and rowan their ults
read pins here and in #classic-questions
too new of an account
sometimes fodders are very good for damage or for stuns, i used to use saveas a lot because of his self heal
Was also useless last stage
can you show your full hero list?
Awesome thanks
Well im gonna use the team u mentioned as it is .. even if they r lvl 1 ill put in resonating
last slot should be something that either does a lot of damage (like a lot), or a booster like talene (which heals and also delays), lyca (haste points to everyone in the beginning of match)
This was my best run so far
the good thing about talene delay is that it needs no investment so you could prioitize high valued celepogeans
that and heal
this stage is extremely rng heavy
raine is also annoying now
Currently I utilize this lineup for both main and guild boss:
My problem is mainly thane lucius and mehira possibly estrillda as well
Should I swap out any heroes for someone else?
raine contributes the buff and she stuns and slows daimon through shield
thoran ill admit is not the best for delays, but swap mirael with damien and put brutus in his position
front line brutus instead of daimon
remove ainz and slot a arden
wait what
thats illegal, why would you get rid of ainz unless you cant pull off his ult?
he sucks early with no investment
No sig.
he still can stop time for one ult right?
Is that lineup suggestion for that campaign battle only or as my new permanent lineup for any battle?
every battle has its different aspects- labyrinth and stuff that remembers your progress and last match's details should never use delayers- you cannot use them in the next (besides talene)
guild bosses are purely attack damage
attack damage and of course healing if you need it
there's no permanent line ups
early u can play the same heroes mostly but thats a general rule
That does make sense, each match will have specific heroes that performs better than others
Any help?
For Lab I just rent a Saurus and have it carry me 💀
How well does Mortas perform at E? Pulled him from scrolls
i have no experience with mortas
he used for TR (twisted realm) later and E is already good..
for abex too later but need at least E+
do people actually do twisted realm
A lot of people do it from my Guild
you will farm poe and juice from there
nah we just ignore it, who wants free stuff anyways
You have to be decently far into chapters for it to be worthwhile I think bc it unlocks at 13-1
well i say decently far but i suppose for most ppl here thats not far at all
HELP 911
What is that second team hoping to accomplish
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
WHICH IS WHY I CALLED 911 HELP PLS
Also listen guy I know that 2nd team is stupid looking but after trying everything that was the concoction I've came up with.
You check afkhelper?
Yeah, this is one of them stages they used heroes I don't have to clear
Hey Guys ... im new at this game and Meer Help for a good Team.... Have someone time Help me?🍞
I could always wait a month and over level but hell.
Post your lineup we can let you know who to focus on
Overleveled enough as it is, try ainz for r2
Gotcha.
Ainz w/ no albedo :<. Always able to clear r1. R2 is where I'm getting rocked
Shew when I was at your level, I rocked with Brutus, Shemira, Lucius, Rowan, Belinda.
I wouldn't take Brutus nor Shemira pass Ascended, however.
i wouldn't take brutus past elite for a long time, and shemira is literal fodder until you have no other GB to ascend
No shit. This guy is much smarter than I lol I'd listen to him
OK and can you Tell me how The Line Up has to Look Like?
first off, use the auto ascend feature in the temple of ascension (not smart ascend), it's your friend
secondly, you're gonna wanna browse the pins in #classic-questions for a lot of stuff
I'll prolly browse them pins too haha
Who ist Lucius, Rowan, I cant find Them
Lucius is a lightbearer tank he has a shield
Rowan has a bag of gold and a duck
a I dont have Them for The Line Up xD
These fellas you should focus on. You can still do daily's, and collect diamonds in other ways than campaign.
Ahhhhh

Okay okay
iunno about that wishlist chief, there's one in the pins of questions lol
owait you circled the ones you were pointing out 
Lmao I dont even know what the fuck I'm doing.
Yeah.. I'm done with my lucius lol
Either way, anything this truth guy corrects me on is probably true. Listen to him
And what could I do for a line-up with the characters I currently have? Is there anything good or not?
Pre level 100 you just focus resources into wukong and roll stuff. Then it's the same story with mirael
I think Shemira can carry you just as far as Wukong can. And is easier to acquire. However this guy has played longer than I have and knows more than I.
Hard stuck on this stage, any help?
switch daimon and throan
if tasi is the issue put a nara in p4 to keep dragging her back
Thanks I will try that
need to disable arden with nara or tasi if she banish him fast
rowan wont survive for long
try rowan ,eirron ,tasi/ferael/nara , saf/lyca , saurus
the / is for or
Can merc a hero also
Mercing a better ferael with more investment heavily reduces the rng in this comp, like 30SI and so. Not sure how impactful 9F is here though.
I’ll try this comp. 
Took a couple tries
Guys im really struggling i think i need 2x aizen ult to beat this stage. but i cant find a formation that works
All my leveled heroes can be seen in the photo
thks for your idea
This has had the best result so far though I've still been unable to kill even a single one. Have 1 spot on the crystal if that matters. Can get a merc soon too
ainz albedo Arthur and rowan used need a second team
Just need help
maybe try pulling 2 of the back enemies with eironn @pale kettle
Cant, something hits him or stuns him and he doesnt cast the spell
Lineups that were recommended didn’t help at all
Try lyca alna front, Ainz, Tasi and Rowan bacl
it didn't work
Any website to use as a legends team builder? Trying to prep 5 legend teams in prep for tourney.
Help
Any idea what I might do with this? 
Silvina destroys Rowan, Lyca just serves as a bait and haste resource, Ainz cant ult even when there is Lyca. Gwny mostly kills Shemira so she cannot ult.
ainz brutus lyca rowan fera
dont see why not but I 5pulled r2
eironn comp prolly
lyca brutus daimon rowan talene might work better but there's a serious lack of damage here to get daimon ramping against heals
brutus lyca daimon rowan numisu ig.
luci brutus lyca rowan ainz perhaps
ainz brutus lyca rowan rosa might work
Nah silvina one shots numisu then goes and one shots rowan and no one dies while isabella ults
brutus serves no purpose at position 5 in this case. brutus talene ainz rowan lyca might work - put best gear on rowan u need to dodge silvi first strike
reroll for dodge. best gear on rowan
Not sure what that means
Now Ainz can ult most of the times but Silvina attacks him. Rowan still dies before he ults. My Talene isnt good maybe thats why
He means you have to try again and again until Numisj dodges Silvinas attack and survives.
Ahh
invest in mirael, slot daimon in cyrstal and do thoran,daimon,lyca,pippa,arden
make sure pippa is the lowest deff mage there
Anything I should change around?
daimon is fine for now
stop making L non legendary tier heroes and let those be your top 5 apart from daimon
try hogan,brutus,lyca arden and daimon
Need help please PM
arthur albedo ainz lyca nara
if your nara got factioned boots switch lyca for ferael
General lineup? Arcane Labyrinth keeps kicking my butt
stop making L heroes and reset everyone that isnt a legndary tier hero
u can leave these 4 top ones (for now) and focus on getring mirael or saveas to L+ and dump levels into them
You mean take them out of the resonating crystal?
no as in reset their levels
i would reset nara and nemora if u dont got the copies to go to A
which is 4 or 2 e+ copies
read pins here and in #classic-questions
I'm seriously stuck. Isabella, and fereal kill my team off fast, and I can't kil their tanks.
too many M+ heroes that i doubt u got the copies for
same for L+ heroes so stop making those
need to see other heroes to see what we working with
u need to cc her
usually ferael doed the trick
Das all I got
try daimon rowan eirron lyca ferael
see if u can out pace the ferael fear
Even with fereal elite?
Which is Better Team 5 top?
ye his use with SI or furn isnt relevant for u rn his fear is good enough here at base
brb later
give it a couple of tries
Thx
With this team should i get skriath or get the ascended Rowan I have 18k crystals for the summons what should I do i can get 3 furniture
Which is Better Team 5 top?
Any ideas? Atandra can carry this, but Isabella one shot her. Fawkes coffins Mirael
use narw in place of peggy
i also doubt lucuis can tank that good there so try brutus
what are y looking fkr exactly? u are off the early game alresdy so u asking for who to invest in next/most?
do skirath for sure
rowan at A doesnt bring anything but possibility to tank front line in some stages
Well, Try ask add make more left Purple with Orange to Gold
ummm
so u asking who to ascend next?
that sentence isnt very clear
well for starts u should stop getring heroes to L that u Can not get to A right away
meaning heroes that dont have 8 copies or 4 e+ copies ready
u may as well finish khasos from lap coins and wait on light bearers fkr a while u exhausted alot of fodder alresdy and u got no one remotely close to A
Im America Sign Language
This setup allows my daimon to ult twice before inevitably vanishing.
As always, any suggestions are appreciated!
And sorry I’ve been posting a lot on here recently. Chapter 26 is painful.
u already pushing near the powercap so anything can 1 shot u
keep retying or slot a tasi for Rowan if she got good gear and wait on dodges
u already got the 3 furn so thats great for that purpose
may even try to frontline her instesd of brutus and leave roean there
a bit kore tricky bur she should tele b4 brutud rowar
She gets one tapped even with non-crits . Guess I’ll just wait until I break the dust wall, this just seems impossible as of now.
most heroes do have all their good rank ups at 201 so u can on that and try again
makes a big difference for many
try to see if u can remove her chest and have rowan be higer deff than her and make rowan in slot 2 and her in 4
she really inly needs dodge and tele
any better setup rn? pretty new to the game, started yesterday
read pins here and in #classic-questions
who does tasi banish
shem
Kept retrying with different positions and it eventually worked out! Thanks @lone wren

Halp
Try this, joker+ferael is very strong, you can flex in lyca aswell, your core should be daimon/brutus/rowan
should i use belinda i’m level 22
Belinda is always a good character to have on your team
Any ideas here?
Nara
Shemira
Lyca (put her in crystal)
Rosaline/Tasi
Tasi/Numisu
Try something like that
I also recommend reading the guides pinned in #classic-questions to avoid making mistakes like randomly making heroes L without extra copies
Ferael
Tasi
Lyca
Rowan
Daimon
Make sure they have good gear so they can dodge
I just got thoran should so use him instead of skreg?
It worked thx
Hi, I’m struggling on 23-60. If you have some advice I’ll gladly take it
nvm I just beat it
Where should I be placing fearal?
just started a couple mins ago so I have really bad heroes lol but what would be the best lineup out of what I have? Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Keep going for now and send your box later on, but for now use eironn daimon safiya and oden and/or estrilda
if ur below level 50 dont ask for advice just play the game.
Sounds like a good way to brick an account
I’m a tad confused lol
pre level 50 play anything
Read the pins
Worked!
Hello again, ferael is usually on the backline, but if he has good gear you can let him frontline against a non-magic unit, doesn't work with a brutus though since brutus his roar disables dodge
Yeah I had him backline behind joker, worked like a charm. Had some good gear for him even though he’s e+ but it worked : )
👍
How do I counter this guy's healing and totems?
u use arden eirh high mage boots
do brutud daimom lyca arden nara
ainz rowan albedo Arthur used help for second comp
do I want arden to root the totem guy?
usually the entire back row or at least totem and the hypo mage b4 he nukes
u got better chances if u switch him to slot 3 since his root got range,minimising the chances to miss the hypo mage
but in 4 he can chain stun Isabella whichbis trouble also
okok thanks
🥲
tasi daimon talene Rowan joker
may try brutus instesd of ralene if she dies too soon
thanks for the suggestions, but I'm just getting rolled, prolly need my rc 141 now
Tasi just gets one shot by that warek
rng for dodge
Ah gotcha
Any suggestions here?
Any idea on how to pass this?
Daimon
What formations can I use with these???
but he doesn’t have any ascensions
He is stil top teir because he does percent based damage. Try him out, make sure he doesnt die before he can ult
should i try to use lucius then as the tank?
since he can use the ult and have rosaline to make sure both daimon and lucius can ult
Hmmm... I would try Lyca, Gwyneth Daimon Backline, Lucious Hendrik Frontline
I feel like this should be an easy stage given all of the anti healing I have. But for some reason my heroes deal literally no damage.
overlevel mirael carry surrounded by supports
if this is greatly confusing, I recommend reading the beginner guide in #classic-questions by tree3
bruh but hendrik is kind of trash
Then try thoran instead of hendrick. Hendrick is good for his immune
and my lyca usually just dies instantly
I can go max 140 until I have 120 everyone
yes
Is Ira Usable?
who’s better early game rowan or nemora
Rowan will always be more viable cuz of his energy cycle; nemora is just straight healing
Try Daimon, Rowan, Brutus, Lyca, Eironn
good try but thats not nearly even close, ainz ulting basically carried me up to here. was using your comp at chap 20 and not work either :(
Some stages require a bit of rng in retrying; for one, use either Daimon or Ainz, not both, as for 2, Ainz is much better with Albedo, wich it doesnt seem you have. I would try varying comps woth Daimon and see if you can RNG a win
I would also recommend 30 rowan; from personal experience, it helps so much; I can get daimon to ult in 5 seconds with a 30 rowan
@worthy steeple ya im working on it but not enough emblems :(
should I use shemira for my team, and if yes, who would I replace?
Help pls...
Take Maulers against these enemies, factions really matter
@ebon hazel I dont have wukong or tasi unless im blind and its not a starter elite
Post your box
Wukong you should get for free from the 2 shares quest, you don't have to share anything just press the share button and exit
Wait how tf do i do that?
Tasi is right under Eironn
2nd row 4th collum
Go to the left drop down menu>Events>Newbie>Monkey man picture
it judt put me here when i pressed go LOL
When you do your next pull there should be a share button with the Facebook logo
oh
Gotta download the app I believe though
Anything that could be considered trophy worthy should have it
Getting consistently stuck in mid 11. Besides I know I need to keep upping my levels, anyone see a lineup shift that might help with this chapter?
saveas out for arden
Too much damage focus tbh, drop Daimon or Saveas for CC like arden or tasi
Ok, will try. Thanks!
@ebon hazel got wukong.
Good, he's going to be one of the best carries for you early game
The fairy, strong CC
Yeah that didn’t work. They die too fast. Leveling it is.
@ebon hazel alr so hows the formation gonna be?
From completely empty team, select in this order
Wukong Brutus (Lion dude 1st collum 6th row) Tasi Mirael then whoever you want
alr ty
I need help making my team for early game not just a #545929173471068170 because I am still confused.
daimon
rowan
tasi
brutus
ferael/lyca
Can somebody help me on this stage?
So rowan brutus frontline correct?
yes
I’ll lyk how it goes!
will need dodge rng for tasi/rowan but might work
Drop Gwen for Fareal
Will take several attempts
I can tell, from my first try. It was literally trash.
That sounds like a you problem.
What is Ferael supposed to do?
: )
Nice!
That Daimon damage. 👀
daimon is indeed very strong
Passed this one just to hit another roadblock 😭
Sad.
Very
CCs 3 people at the start of the round
@ebon hazel I cleared the stage, but with Gwyneth. So, 🤷♂️.
@vapid field try nem in the middle to charm Shem. If she gets one shot, try lyca mid
Any suggestions
Try tasi talen lyca rowan ainz
What should be added/removed since im in Chap 10
add rowan
already using
u dont have belinda?
not yet, not a single copy
add lucius and belinda when u get them
To replace?
?
To replace what?
ill dm u
I play this game every so often cuz I get busy. Does my lineup look good for a beginner?
Need set up for campaign pushing
who should be my tank
Maybe
I paased it am stuck on 413 now
If it doesn't work u can merc my eironn before reset, which is in like 5 min lol
I think i will keep retrying it dont really wana use merc on normal stage would bw better on 5 and 10 stage
Yes but merc reset is in 2 min now, if u use one now u can still use a merc tomorrow or so @steep night
But it's prob too late for that now
Any ideas? I’ve tried those top 5 but to no effect, I can put someone in the crystal also if needed
I beated it without merc in reset time
Gz
Wanna puah my other towers for some rewards Lb tower seems hard plus there is no good lb heros that can really carry
What account is more “worth” investing on. It’s just my 3rd day for both
Those are 2 different account. Which is more worth investing on? Like the in a way “future proof”-ish
A few copies are nothing, keep playing for a while on both
Whatchu mean my dude? Around how long do i play both?
I dont know, a month or so. In the end you will keep playing both, from my own experience. I can't tell Which it's better, bcs one or two copies of a hero it's not much.
What 4 would be good for burning brute here? And what 5th hero should I merc for it?
copy the top person on your leaderboard as closely as possible
Stuck here for 10 crystal levels, have tried a lot of different formations but I can’t find anything that works (trying not to use a merc)
@humble apex weird. You should be okay. Try
Daimon
Brutus
Rowan
Saurus/talene
Lyca
Need 5 teams capable of pushing Ch 34 at Lv 370
check arty guide on pve teams he got alot of insights and its colorful
What should I change about this lineup/formation to beat this stage or should I just keep retrying until I win with my current formation? (That Ainz is a merc and im trying to save him for the final stage in the chapter)
@pale kettle peggy is a support, and not a carry. Your carry should be the one that is overleveled above the rest of your hero pool.
Who should I invest in? I’m new 😅 I was putting everything into Thane but apparently he sucks??
I’m not really stuck on anything so far, just not sure what to do with my resources. All of the guides I see have sooooo much information and it’s impossible for me to understand it all :(
Hey, I can currently either upgrade Hendrik, my current main tank, or Gwyneth, who I want to transition to as my carry. My current carry is Mirael at lvl 140.
Unfortunately I dont have a good carry for LB. I tried Mirael but i had better luck with peggy as she helps my team stay alive long enought to get ult with her guards that stall. With Mireal my team just dies too quick. What do you reccomend I make a carry for LB?
@tough moat the first pinned guide on #classic-questions is easy to read, the 2nd one is more comprehensive
Could someone help me with my decision for 3rd support slot ? My plan was to use core 3 light daimond but wasn't sure who else
First as in most recent on the pin list or the oldest on the pin list?
@tough moat Ascend everyone you can. You will probably have to go with Belinda as your carry. Thane and Hogan (main tank) as your front line.
@pale kettle you can still use peggy as a support, just tweak the levels so the carry is above the rest. Mirael has the advantage since her copies drop more often than peggy, so you'd be able to bring her to 160 faster.
The top one, posted by Phoenix
@tough moat pick Angelo as the support and throw in one more support if you pull one. Also don't level anyone that isn't on your main team. It will slow the climb and stunt your progress
Gotchya, thank you both :)
Oh wow, that first guide is exactly what I needed, thank you Taint and Phoenix!!
You will be able to play with other characters when you get the alter
Im really low on resources right now so 140 is the highest I can take a character. Should I switch to Mirael as a carry then even if I only have her at L? I wasted a lot of fodder on getting my Lucius to L+ really early bc I was able to get 6 copies of him so Im quite low on LB fodder.
That's one of the issues as well, the lb fodder is spread too thin. And ideally you should only be ascending fodder heroes first early game.
Yea I realized that too late, now im just ascending fodder until I hit a crytal cap of 160
Could someone just make a quick decision for me as I really have no idea who to use I'm my last slot :S
do you have resonating crsytal unloscked yet?
Yea I do@pale kettle
I was stupid and put fodder in it by accident didt realise it had 24 hour cooldown xD
Noooo
oof, we also made the same mistake in investing fodder into our lucius
daimon isnt really a tank
id put hogan into your crystal and use him as a tank along with ur lucius
Instead of grezual ?
or reset your nemura and put her resources into hogan
You seen my screen on my available hero's ?
Is Hogan my best option so I get 4 light
@pale kettle you'll have to grind it out with the resources. Overlevel Mira and add Rosa+Rowan with her for fast double ult. Arden can be slotted for the cc, then lucius as tank. There's the option of using antandra as carry instead but I don't have much experience with her in the game
Okay sounds good, ig ill just have to wait it out then lol
antandra?
oh i think she kinda dies pretty fast
maybe im just using her wrong though
@pale kettle you think Hogan is my best option ?
so Rosa Lucius for the front line then rowan top, mireal mid and arden bottom?
id say hogan is a pretty safe investment, I didnt see any miraels in your box so for now hogan is your best option
generally you only really want to put resources into fodder units early on in the game until you hit a crystal cap of 160
that way you can choose who to ascend later once you start getting multiple copies of Ascended heros. From what Ive gathered some good fodder to ascend is 1 from each faction and 2 for LB bc they get most fodder units
I do have mireal
shes only rare+ though
Yea traded up xD
id wate until you get her to elite+ then start using her as a carry
so what fodder im currently investing into is Mirael for LB (I have Lucius at L+ so no need to go for Hogan), Silvina for GB, Saveus for Maulers, and Arden for Wilders
If you want better and more accurate advice though id go ask in #classic-questions as im pretty much a noob here
yea thats what I would go with if I was in your position
How many copies of something do I need to replace Hogan for e.g
Like thoran would 2 copy replace
um idk tbh, I would still stick with Hogan for now as he will be quite easy to ascend to L+
Any ideas what could possibly work here? All variations of thoran comp didn't work, RC is 400...
went from 25-30 to 26-58 in an hour, but stuck at 26-58 for 3 days. can someone give me a help plz, i can lend a merc btw. thanks in advance
What should I use for campaign
Who does silvina gank
Pippa
Make sure she has gear, should be ok if she dodges maybe once
She survives a hit, half hp
As for lineup, needs some fixing lmao
Yes, can you fix it? 
Is this better?
Arthur 
k
Arthur a good boi, not only used with ainz
Did you try the order I specified
It's actually very important here
Your order is confusing smh
But k
It's 1-5 order
Like that yeah
Big improvement survivability wise, but Oden doesn't seem to do dmg
Is the ball of death being setup?
Ball of death?
Portal centers around piling every enemy on top of each other in an infinite cc loop and slowly smashing them to fucking pieces with each other
Beautiful stuff
Could try eironn instead of arthur to help clump
Idk it doesn't seem to be happening

That looks promising
Artifacts?
Ahhhhhhhh shit. Overlooked that.
Sec
Wrong artis on bc I switched them with other heroes
Yes
But it stretches me really thin on INT gear
